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Well, Hello and good evening. 
We're so glad you could

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join us tonight for Making 
It Grow. I'm Amanda Mculty.

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And we're getting ready 
to have a hodge podge

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of visits to some

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of our favorite places 
in the past.

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We're going to start off 
in Camden at a farm

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where they're growing wonderful 
vegetables and flowers.

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But I assure you,

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There's not much else that's 
very normal about it.

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I'm visiting with Stephanie 
Tetterton and her garden in

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downtown Camden. Stephanie 
thanks for letting us come.

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Absolutely. Thank you. I 
appreciate it so much,

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y'all coming by. You grew up I 
think with your mother and

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father helping 
them garden.

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Was it a lot of fun back then? 
No, not so much.

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Where was that? And tell me

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what they did with 
all their produce?

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It was in Finklea, South 
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And pretty much 
what we did, was we

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just gave most of 
it away. And what we

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didn't give away, my mom canned 
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Busy summers. And 
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one thing 
ya'll grew that

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was kind of an heirloom in your 
family your mother

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brought into the marriage. 
Tell us about that.

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It's now called the Shirley 
Hammond Multiplier Onion.

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But, it's a little small onion.

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Its no bigger than 
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it's dry. And basically when you 
plant it will multiply from

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one to anywhere from seven 
to fifteen. My word and do they

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kind of stay in a big bunch. 
Tight bunch.

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And your mother said that they

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had a wonderful flavor. She 
liked to use it

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in what dishes? Roasts! She 
likes to use them in roasts.

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It doesn't take 
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one to really make a nice roast.

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That's fabulous! And when 
you got here to Camden and

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married you wanted to kind of 
continue that. I did. So, in

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2003 when we got 
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have a garden right away, but my 
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When he did, she mailed those 
onions to me, later came to

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help me plant those onions. To 
kinda get the tradition back

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started at my own home. 
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expanding into this beautiful 
garden you have today?

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as time went on, we 
just need a bigger place

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to expand. And so when this 
property come up we were

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able to acquire it. It's 
just right down the road

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from our home. So, my husband

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helped me to keep 
expanding really each

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and every year from it. And you 
enjoy finding things like

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this onion are a 
little bit different.

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Absolutely! Well, I love 
cauliflower.

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Cauliflower's so 
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transition to odd tomatoes or 
you know heirloom tomatoes. And

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really my next favorite 
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don't know, growing squash. I 
like growing winter squash

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different ones. Well let's talk 
a little about these cauliflower

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because - you are kind 
of an artist, Yes! And you

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like color and that is 
reflected in some of these.

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Absolutely! I like the 
cauliflower I make are purple.

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They're green. They're orange. 
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fun to the garden. And then 
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beets that were a little bit 
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standard red beets. And 
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beets that are red and white, 
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How bout these turnips? 
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Japanese Salad Turnips. I 
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type and then a little white 
Japanese type. And they're just

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kind of a sweet instead of 
being like a tangy radish it's

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more of a sweet taste to it. So 
it's more palatable for folks.

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a big part of this. 
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That's my husband's, one of his 
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each garden we do plant tons of 
zinnia, just so that we can, you

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know, make those into flower 
arrangements later and then

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give them to folks if they get 
sick or need a pick me up.

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You're out here fighting 
with bugs because they like

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this as much as we do. 
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thing you use is what?

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I use diatomaceous earth 
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with squash bugs or even cut 
worms at times, I do have to use

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pyrethrins products. Tell me how 
your husband helped you solve

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the nut grass problem. Well 
instead of doing overhead

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watering which is what we did 
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he researched it 
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should do drip irrigation. 
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we basically just drip each 
line so that we provide less

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water to the area. And it's more 
conservative to water,

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as well. So, it's better. And 
here you are in a lovely little

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dress and bare feet which -

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You said, That's my 
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But, you are not somebody who

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just directs 
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This is your garden. And you do 
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I have no help other than my

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husband who does a lot of work. 
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irrigation. He keeps all the 
tractors running. For the

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most part I'm out 
here weeding myself,

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putting up for the tomatoes. 
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driving myself, other 
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upbeat music) ♪

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Let's talk about this

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crazy collection of tractors. 
Yeah! Explain to me why

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there are so many? Yeah! Well, 
it's like anything.

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It starts with one. So, it 
started with my husband's M.

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He obtained that upon his 
grandfather's death and from

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there, I loved it. So, he's 
like, 'I'll get you one.'

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It started off with my little 
baby cub and each year, as

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folks saw that we liked them, 
they would offer one to us.

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Mister Jack Moak. And when he

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passed away he and his family 
wanted us to have that. So we

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acquired that from him. And 
just different ones. People just

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say, 'Hey! I know you liked 
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Would you like to get this? 
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you don't spend all summer

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putting things up, because you 
helped your husband

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every day almost, That's right! 
He owns the Mill Village

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Veterinarian. So,he's a 
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work together regularly every 
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carry on the family tradition. 
That's exactly right.

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You know I live in a mill 
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is to keep that mantra of just 
giving back. And so, whatever I

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produce, large in part, I give 
away to my neighbors. Stephanie

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Tetterton, it's been a delight 
to be with you today.

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Thank you. Absolutely! I 
Appreciate it

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Stephanie Tetterton is really 
a remarkable woman.

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We had fun visiting her. And now 
we're going down

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to Clarendon County where 
Dr. John Nelson

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and I are going to explore a 
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We're in Clarendon County near 
the lovely town of Pinewood.

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Today we are visiting the farm 
that belongs to Chase Smoak's

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family. Chase is the new 
extension agent with

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Sumter County and I'm 
with Doctor John Nelson

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of the A.C. Herbarium at

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the University of South Carolina 
who loves to go botonizing.

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And I think you just about died 
and gone to heaven down here.

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I think this is going to end 
up being one of my

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famous botany places from 
now on. And John looking

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around people would say, 'Gosh, 
it looks a little bleak.'

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And that's because this 
property, this section was

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logged, which is wonderful. 
You can send

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your children to college and 
plants like it when you remove

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the timber. There's been a 
considerable amount of

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disturbance here in 
this formerly wooded area.

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They cut down most of the trees 
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Others have been re-planted. So 
they're growing another forest.

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Meanwhile, all the 
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been here, suddenly have been 
released because there's a lot

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more sunlight coming down. 
The ones that were just...

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whoo, here's a little bit of sun 
every, just struggling along,

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suddenly you know it's 
wonderful for them.

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vigor we like to see. And 
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special happening here. That's 
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a seep, 
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something's leaking. Is water 
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leaking. And it's kind of hard 
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seep is or seepage 
sometimes we call it.

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wet places on otherwise dry 
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generally, the constant presence

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of water, really has a great 
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life that's going to develop at 
such a place. While we were

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tropping around. I have 
on high boots, you

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just got your feet wet, we saw a 
fascinating display of plants,

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some of which have to have this 
kind of situation. Let's talk

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about some of the ones that you 
spotted here today that are

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specific to places that have 
more moisture than normal.

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plants, that is plants that are

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typically found in association 
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I guess those are the 
aquatic plants. A lot of

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the plants that we have around 
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Sedges are great stand. 
We're standing

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right in it now, a big patch of 
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They're actually several species 
of Beak rush that are out here

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and they're a very 
interesting group of species.

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And beyond the Beak Rush, 
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I don't even know it has a

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common name but Fuirena 
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beyond those there are quite a 
number of different grasses

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that are present. And we think 
of grasses as being in more

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dry places. But there are some 
that want this. Which are some

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of the grasses that we saw. One 
of the very common grasses it's

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almost in every wetland estate 
is a panic grass, which we

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found. And it's very easy to 
identify as long as you have

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a hand lens because it's got 
little bumps on it's spikelets.

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You let me look at that a little 
bit. And then we saw some

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flowering plants. 
And everything flowers.

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We saw some things that people

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who like color and more what 
seems like a plant. Conspicuous

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flowers are what most people 
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trip. One was orange and it was 
just bright and shiny. I mean.

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And it's gorgeous that was 
probably the Orange

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Milkwort, which actually Chase 
found, and we made such a fuss

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about Polygala lutea which 
is a beautiful thing. But we

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also saw species of Rhexia, the 
Meadow Beauty and then we

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also saw Seed Box. the reddish 
seed box. There's a

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species called Ludwigia 
leptocarpa which grows runners

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tiny little yellow petals. 
Beautiful stuff and a lot of

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these things would actually be 
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garden. Lobelia. Lobelia I 
think that's kind of my fave

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out here. It's got a sort of a 
sky blue corolla of

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flowers. Beautiful and they 
really do love these wet places

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that are full of sunlight. We 
saw a clamoring vine that you

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said is nice because it's late. 
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one of the few viney species

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that we've got in the sunflower 
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name, Climbing Hemp. 
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which is actually probably in 
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I think it's lovely. I do too.

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I wish I had some behind my 
house at the deck.

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Well, you have a lot 
of things there.

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But, I'm sure Chase would 
happily let you do

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some collecting. And then John 
interestingly, we do also see

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things that we associate with 
regular soil situations,

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that sometimes or even for dry 
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Bracken fern of course that's 
one of them that's kinda an

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odd ball sort of a fern. It can 
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All you gotta do is go to 
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to see it. You can also find 
that in fairly wet ditches of

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the coastal plain. Here it's 
sort of betwixt in between

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because it will get down into 
this seepage area although we

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would think that it's more at 
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hillside. And then I've got on 
a black shirt and I had

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to kind of fluff it off. I had a 
lot of seeds on me.

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And those were from I think 
just our common Broom sedge.

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Broom sedge is very abundant 
out here and it's like going

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crazy now, fruiting. 
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little spikelets, one seeded 
fruits, grains. And it can be in

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dry fields or very adaptable 
and can be found in other

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places. Now there are a number 
of species of Broom sedges

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of Andropogon. 
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easy to identify. I'll leave 
that to you. Grasses are

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difficult. John I was talking 
with my friend Mike Stallworth

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who had been with DNR and he 
said the seepages also are

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important for wildlife, 
particularly amphibians which we

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don't often think about. But 
they're kind of having

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trouble sometimes because the 
ground stays wet enough for them

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to be able to have their 
reproductive - To breed and

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of course since it is a seepage 
and not a pond or some kind

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of a little lake, there aren't 
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(laughter)

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Some little tadpole's aren't 
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That's important 
for the herpetologist to be

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aware of places like this that 
are at least potential habitat

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for different kinds of 
amphibians and reptiles. As we

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see our state changing and we 
lose some of these micro

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climates. It's important that 
they are recognized and I think

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Chase and his family are saying 
that this one, they believe that

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they'll even though we've got 
some pines on it, they're

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gonna burn it periodically. And 
that will allow the sunlight

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to continue so that these plants 
you described can have a

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vigorous growth. That would not 
keep knocking back the woody

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vegetation, which ultimately 
would be invading here. And that

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would be nice if people do have, 
you know, the listeners,

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if they have 
anything like this on their

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property, maybe they could take 
care of it any way they can.

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Now that doesn't always mean 
that it's possible to burn

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your landscape, but to take care 
of it in whatever way you can

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just to keep it going. Well, I 
think it's nice that we

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got families like the Smoak, who 
are committed to the

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environment and the natural 
community and that they even let

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people like us come 
in and have such

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glorious days exploring. 
They're really nice people.

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Thank you, John. 
Thank you, Amanda.

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Thanks to Chase Smoak for 
taking us down to

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his family's farm.

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And now, we're going down to 
Bowman, where Blanche Weathers

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is going to show us 
a pretty different way

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of cooking 
South Carolina peanuts.

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We're in Bowman, South Carolina 
visiting Blanche Weathers,

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the wife of our Commissioner of 
Agriculture, Hugh Weathers.

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And we're gonna do something 
agriculture related.

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And it's a lot of fun. It is and 
tasty too. We're going

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to be frying peanuts today. 
I never had a fried peanut.

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I've had boiled peanuts.

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It's just the best. 
You're gonna love em.

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And it's sort of new for me too 
but we'll show you

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what we're gonna do here. You 
got a really nice fryer here.

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Yes. And I guess we're 
gonna use peanut oil.

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It's essential that 
you use peanut oil.

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And yes we have this 
wonderful fryer.

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And it's 
an electric fryer. Yes and

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we're just going to pour a 
little bit more oil in here.

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And we got the 
thermostat set at

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350 degrees. Okay.

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So we gonna let it come 
up to that temperature.

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I think we're good there.

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And now can you re-use the oil?

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Yes, she really can. I would 
say probably four, five times

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you can. You know it is

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expensive, the peanut oil. 
But we have

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really exciting peanuts. Tell me 
what kind of peanuts you use.

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Okay, these are raw shelled 
peanuts

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and they're grown right here 
in South Carolina, of course.

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People are always asking 
'Well where do I get those raw'

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'shelled peanuts?' And you can 
get them actually

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in the grocery store. But you 
might need to ask your

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produce manager in your store

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to get them for you. 
They can do that.

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And we are filming in

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late September which is when the 
peanuts are being dug.

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This is the time you want to do 
this. It's our Fall activity.

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I live in St Matthews and 
drive back and forth

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and see the crops. And all of a 
sudden we started

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noticing a new crop, 
a number of years ago.

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What brought peanuts into

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the South Carolina agricultural 
system?

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I think for the most part, it 
was when the tobacco industry

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had the buyout. And a lot of 
farmers over in the Pee Dee area

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were in need of a new crop. And 
so the soil is perfect.

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The climate is good 
and we grow some really

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great peanuts here in South 
Carolina. How many acres do we

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have? 65 thousand acres 
are grown here in South

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Carolina right now. 
That's a lot for our farms.

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I was talking with one of 
our Ag agents and they were

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telling me that this has been a 
really helpful crop.

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You know farmers like to rotate.

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Right. And legumes and of 
course peanuts are a legume.

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They add nitrogen to the soil.

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Yes. And then I think we were 
talking about the fact that

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then when you plant the next 
crop say maybe cotton you don't

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have quite as much nitrogen to 
have to put into the soil

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because the legumes 
help with that.

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And then also cotton which is 
pretty important. Yes it is

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very subject to 
distress

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from the root knot nematode. 
Okay and I've been told that

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that doesn't, the peanut crop

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doesn't support that nematode, 
they have the old nematode

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but that means that 
population diminishes.

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If you plant cotton 
the next year,

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you've got a few of those root 
knot nematodes. So, it's a

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great rotation for us. 
Yes.

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Well, I guess we're going to 
wait a few minutes till

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this gets hot. Then we'll be 
taking the next step.

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Blanche, this cool fryer has 
a green light when it's

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pre-heated. That means we're at 
350 degrees

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Yes. So we can 
put the peanuts in.

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Yes. We're ready to go. 
Ready to go.

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Safety's a factor so 
we're going to be careful.

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It really is. Even though you 
have this wonderful fryer,

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You just got to be careful.

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This is very hot oil 
and you just really need

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to pay attention. Okay.

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So what we're gonna do is 
this thing, sits up high

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and we're just going

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to put in a cup, two cups. Two 
cups, about two cups and we

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put em in the fryer. Because we 
don't want to overload it.

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We don't want too many in there. 
But we want them to all kind

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of have their 
own space, you know.

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Then, we're just going to 
drop them in to the fryer.

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And they will actually

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need to fry for about six 
minutes. And we're gonna watch

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em because they'll turn begin to 
turn a golden brown.

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And then some of them, some of 
them are already split and

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they're halves. The ones that 
are whole. it's kind of nice to

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be able to watch them. They'll 
start to pop a little bit.

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Oh! That's kind of (Pop) your 
trigger. Whoa! Talk about

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popping. So, that's sort of one 
of the things you look for,

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the color and that little split 
in them, all about six

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minutes. And then, 
then we're good to go.

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We've got our eye 
on the clock.

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We'll keep our eye on the 
peanuts too. That's right.

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♪

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Blanche, I think our timer says 
that we're ready and the smell

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and color just looks perfect. 
They are, they look just right.

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So, we're gonna lift them out 
here. They look beautiful.

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Aren't they beautiful? 
They're pretty.

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I think the color is just the 
thing you want to look at.

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We're gonna let em drain 
just a second,

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but remember that they do 
continue to cook just a little

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bit after we take them out.

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And then I'm just gonna move 
them right over here

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and shake them out 
on this newsprint.

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So, then today I have some 
Bull's Bay Sea Salt.

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Certified South Carolina. 
Certified South Carolina.

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And this is our Carolina Flake.

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You can use any sea 
salt of course.

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And you just want to, while 
they're hot and the salt

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can kind of -

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dissolve a little bit. Dissolve 
in the heat of the peanuts

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so it causes it 
to dissolve and it

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sticks as they dry and 
don't want to -

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The trick is -

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you can always add more.

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Okay, so we'll start with a 
little bit like

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that and see how those taste 
when they cool off just

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a little bit.

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If you were going to do 
these in advance of

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a party or event, 
How do you store them?

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A lot of times I store them in 
Mason jars and just

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just tighten the lid down. And I 
think they'll probably keep

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about six weeks. In the kitchen? 
In the kitchen and

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they make a great Christmas 
present. Tie a red ribbon around

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that little Mason jar and, 
they're really fun to

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give away.

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I think these 
days one of the fun things

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about certified South Carolina 
and all those things, is

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when you go on trips

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most people - if you're like me, 
I need to be getting rid of

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things instead of adding more 
things to my house.

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That's right. That's right

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Everybody loves something from 
South Carolina.

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Yes they do. Something from 
home. We have so many new things

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here and this is one of 
the favorites.

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♪

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Until you taste them, you won't 
believe how delicious they are.

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And now we're going up to 
Chester, where Joanna Angle

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has 68 acres dedicated to 
environmental sustainability.

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♪

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We're visiting with 
JoAnna Angle and Bill Altman

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at their home, Cedar Leaf Farm 
near Chester.

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JoAnna, There has been 
a lot of change

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on this property 
since you came here.

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Tell me what some of the 
things that you've done

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have encompassed. Well, the 
thing that we're talk about

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especially today is this three 
and a half acre field

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which, when I got 
here, it was in millet and milo.

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And when we were raising 
thoroughbreds on a small scale

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but it went into 
Coastal Bermuda pasture.

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So I decided I wanted to do 
something more for nature and we

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eradicated that Coastal 
Bermuda,which was a challenge.

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And we put it into nine or ten 
different plants that

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are good for bees and wasps, 
all kinds of native creatures.

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Hummingbirds and the 
goldfinches,

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especially 
love to come here.

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Let's talk about 
what individual species

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you have here 
in the pollinator plot.

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The goal, Amanda, was to 
get three early seasons,

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three mid and three late.

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So, we planted nine different 
species to try to get that

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and I also threw in some 
Bachelor Buttons.

462
00:27:18,033 --> 00:27:20,333
Which told us that first year 
with none of the

463
00:27:20,433 --> 00:27:22,533
other perennials were 
coming up that there

464
00:27:22,633 --> 00:27:24,866
was a sea of blue and 
it was just beautiful.

465
00:27:24,966 --> 00:27:27,900
And it told us that we 
seeded evenly. So that was good.

466
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,166
Then, as things emerged, they 
grew up where they were happy.

467
00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:34,966
For example, it took five years, 
I believe, for the milkweed

468
00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:36,966
to present itself and now

469
00:27:37,066 --> 00:27:38,900
it's colonizing in different 
parts of the farm.

470
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,566
Not everywhere, but where it 
gets what it wants.

471
00:27:41,666 --> 00:27:46,700
This spotted bee balm, 
it's coming this way.

472
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,533
We have tickseed. 
We have a showy goldenrod,

473
00:27:51,633 --> 00:27:55,200
We have Maximillian Sunflower. 
Eupatoriums?

474
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:56,166
That's right.

475
00:27:56,266 --> 00:27:58,533
And then earlier in the 
Summer, we had

476
00:27:58,633 --> 00:28:00,966
my favorite flower of all, 
Black-eyed Susan's.

477
00:28:01,066 --> 00:28:03,366
[laughter]

478
00:28:03,466 --> 00:28:05,000
and purple coneflowers.

479
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,266
So we've have had success with 
everything except we planted an

480
00:28:08,366 --> 00:28:10,433
Illinois Bundleflower and it 
hasn't shown up yet.

481
00:28:10,533 --> 00:28:12,600
But, it might. 
It is in South Carolina.

482
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:15,333
And what do you do 
to maintain this plot?

483
00:28:15,433 --> 00:28:18,266
We get the tractor out and 
mow it in late Winter.

484
00:28:18,366 --> 00:28:21,733
We try to control what weeds 
and invasives that we have.

485
00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:25,600
And then you've got 
a smaller area closer to the

486
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:28,300
house that I think was primarily 
for butterflies. It was.

487
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,000
We call it the 
Little House Garden

488
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:32,266
That was my first 
effort at butterfly gardening.

489
00:28:32,366 --> 00:28:34,800
And it is true, if you plant 
it, they will come.

490
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:38,133
Maybe it takes a year or two but 
they come and they come back.

491
00:28:38,233 --> 00:28:40,133
How many species of butterflies 
have been identified?

492
00:28:40,233 --> 00:28:42,300
I believe 26. Isn't that 
wonderful?

493
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,033
And in the area too, 
you have water opportunities

494
00:28:45,133 --> 00:28:48,866
because we know that it's 
important for our insects.

495
00:28:48,966 --> 00:28:51,466
We have numerous birdbaths.

496
00:28:51,566 --> 00:28:54,066
And then for butterflies, they 
like to do what's called

497
00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:55,466
puddling, they like to puddle.

498
00:28:55,566 --> 00:28:57,600
And so they have their own 
little drinking area,

499
00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:59,900
I call it a butterfly bar 
because we have

500
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,866
beer in it. 
They seem to like that.

501
00:29:02,966 --> 00:29:05,600
And then, of course you have a 
wonderful house here.

502
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:07,600
It dates from the 1850s. 1856.

503
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,433
I think you had a happy thing 
happen to it recently.

504
00:29:10,533 --> 00:29:12,266
Oh, the 
happiest day of my life.

505
00:29:12,366 --> 00:29:15,166
We had recently a gathering 
to celebrate the house being

506
00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:18,433
listed on the national register 
of historic places.

507
00:29:18,533 --> 00:29:21,033
We had three of the previous 
four families,

508
00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:23,566
had members of those families 
here including a

509
00:29:23,666 --> 00:29:25,800
lady that was born here on 
Easter Sunday morning in 1930.

510
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:28,300
But of course in olden 
days people raise the windows

511
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,833
and used wood to heat and

512
00:29:29,933 --> 00:29:31,933
y'all wanted to be more 
sustainable with electricity.

513
00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:37,333
Yes, because old houses aren't 
known for being tight.

514
00:29:37,433 --> 00:29:39,933
We have insulated a 
lot but still, it gets

515
00:29:40,033 --> 00:29:43,400
drafty in the Fall and Winter.

516
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:47,000
I'm not going to steal anybody's 
thunder but we have a different

517
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,033
way to heat and 
cool our house now.

518
00:29:49,133 --> 00:29:52,433
And you also had another Coastal 
Bermuda pasture and although

519
00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:56,033
that provided cover and it was a 
wonderful place for

520
00:29:56,133 --> 00:29:57,733
rainwater infiltration 
you wanted to put

521
00:29:57,833 --> 00:30:00,400
that into an entirely different 
native type of species.

522
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:01,933
What did do you do there?

523
00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:04,600
Native warm season grasses, 
well, that was a

524
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:05,966
very meticulous preparation.

525
00:30:06,066 --> 00:30:10,433
Seven steps to get rid of 
what was there and when you

526
00:30:10,533 --> 00:30:12,100
sow the warm season grasses you

527
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,900
have to have a very 
smooth surface.

528
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,566
Tiny seeds. Tiny, tiny.

529
00:30:17,666 --> 00:30:23,000
We did a number - we worked 
with- both of these projects

530
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:24,600
in cooperation with the 
USDA NRCS.

531
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:26,900
And they helped and guided us 
through all of that.

532
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,733
They've been good 
partners for you?

533
00:30:28,833 --> 00:30:31,533
Oh, and partnerships - 
if you're going to have

534
00:30:31,633 --> 00:30:33,433
anything like this, 
partnerships are so

535
00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:35,766
important because no 
one person can know it all.

536
00:30:35,866 --> 00:30:38,900
You also have mixed hardwoods 
with some pines in them

537
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,800
and you've even have gone in 
and done some

538
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:43,233
things to try and enhance the 
wildlife support that they

539
00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:45,000
give. I think 
the most important

540
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:48,266
thing we did in our 
woods was create corridors

541
00:30:48,366 --> 00:30:49,900
so wildlife can 
move and travel.

542
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,566
That was the biggie.

543
00:30:51,666 --> 00:30:55,566
It also gave us the opportunity 
to go in and selectively thin

544
00:30:55,666 --> 00:30:57,433
trees that needed to come out

545
00:30:57,533 --> 00:31:01,033
so we have harvested a couple of 
times but that's not our goal.

546
00:31:01,133 --> 00:31:05,266
Our goal is wildlife habitat, 
aesthetics and educational

547
00:31:05,366 --> 00:31:06,900
opportunities and 
we try to create

548
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,066
a teaching forest.

549
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:11,266
You you said that your father 
influenced you this way.

550
00:31:11,366 --> 00:31:13,666
Let's talk a little bit 
about that. He did.

551
00:31:13,766 --> 00:31:15,833
The drive that is 
behind all of this.

552
00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:20,833
My daddy operated 
under the motto

553
00:31:20,933 --> 00:31:22,666
that you do what 
you can with

554
00:31:22,766 --> 00:31:26,400
what you have, where you 
are, for as long as you can.

555
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:30,466
So, it doesn't matter if you 
have three acres or 300 acres

556
00:31:30,566 --> 00:31:32,766
or if you've got 
a lot in town.

557
00:31:32,866 --> 00:31:35,800
Everybody has an opportunity 
to show stewardship,

558
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:38,466
and plant things that are 
beneficial to wildlife.

559
00:31:38,566 --> 00:31:42,233
If people who are 
listening to you are inspired,

560
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,100
as I hope they will be and

561
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,333
think, "Well, gosh, I may not 
have 65 acres but I do have

562
00:31:47,433 --> 00:31:49,600
a zeal to enhance wildlife

563
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,566
opportunities in my 
little plot of the world."

564
00:31:52,666 --> 00:31:55,000
How could they get 
in touch with you?

565
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,966
They could email me at 
jangle@truvista.net

566
00:31:58,066 --> 00:32:04,366
And I can tell you, the 
other wonderful resource

567
00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:06,333
right here is our 
land grant university.

568
00:32:06,433 --> 00:32:08,333
I have become a 
huge Clemson fan.

569
00:32:08,433 --> 00:32:13,300
I grew up adjacent to the campus 
of Virginia Tech but I have come

570
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,966
to embrace Clemson 
and they have been

571
00:32:15,066 --> 00:32:16,600
very supportive. They have 
wonderful publications.

572
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,100
I think it takes a team 
and you are certainly

573
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,533
part of the 
educational team

574
00:32:20,633 --> 00:32:22,400
that's working to 
make South Carolina

575
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:24,233
a more sustainable and 
habitat friendly place.

576
00:32:24,333 --> 00:32:26,900
Thank you for letting us visit. 
Thank you for coming.

577
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:40,233
♪

578
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,633
JoAnna's husband, Bill Altman 
keeps us updated on the work

579
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:49,900
that they're doing there. 
It's still going strong.

580
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,100
Now, wait to learn about the 
South Carolina heifer project.

581
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,166
where two twins show us how to 
get cows to move

582
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:57,666
the way they're supposed to.

583
00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:04,933
♪

584
00:33:05,033 --> 00:33:09,266
The South Carolina Dairy Heifer 
Project gives youths from non

585
00:33:09,366 --> 00:33:11,966
dairy backgrounds a truly hands 
on experience raising a

586
00:33:12,066 --> 00:33:15,766
dairy heifer. For eighteen 
months kids care for and

587
00:33:15,866 --> 00:33:18,866
train their cow and participate 
in juried events that

588
00:33:18,966 --> 00:33:21,100
give them experience in 
public speaking,

589
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,300
deportment and critical 
analysis. Not only does

590
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,000
this program provide 
quality dairy cows

591
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:30,633
to add to established herds 
but encourages participants to

592
00:33:30,733 --> 00:33:33,366
consider careers in the 
dairy industry. We've been

593
00:33:33,466 --> 00:33:36,666
following two sisters 
Madelyn and Logan Bolin

594
00:33:36,766 --> 00:33:39,166
in their journey. Our 
first stop was at the

595
00:33:39,266 --> 00:33:42,733
Clemson Spring Dairy 
weekend at the T Ed.

596
00:33:42,833 --> 00:33:45,900
Garrison Arena where the 
girls received their calves.

597
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,700
From there we visited 
Madelyn and Logan at their

598
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,466
home in Clover to learn 
how they had cared for

599
00:33:51,566 --> 00:33:54,066
their animals and how 
hard it is to get a cow

600
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,900
to walk where you 
want it to.

601
00:33:57,966 --> 00:34:00,733
Madelyn and Logan, y'all 
are second generation

602
00:34:00,833 --> 00:34:04,800
heifer project people. And 
tell me about your first

603
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:08,500
experience going and 
getting your heifer.

604
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,433
Well, we're really, really 
excited.

605
00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:14,266
Because my brothers and my mom 
had did the heifer project

606
00:34:14,366 --> 00:34:16,800
and so then when 
I met my heifer it was

607
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,199
just so like happy to 
have my own heifer. And not

608
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,966
to have to see my brother's 
heifer so I could just have my

609
00:34:23,066 --> 00:34:26,400
own and say it was it was my 
own. It was really nice and

610
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,833
y'all were pretty young when you 
got your first animal I believe.

611
00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:31,466
Yes we were four years old. 
That's unusual. Yes. But

612
00:34:31,566 --> 00:34:33,766
you've grown up with 
heifers around you. That made a

613
00:34:33,866 --> 00:34:38,033
difference here. 
And what is the day to day

614
00:34:38,133 --> 00:34:40,533
operation of having a cow? 
What is like what's your

615
00:34:40,633 --> 00:34:42,866
day like? The interaction 
you have with

616
00:34:42,966 --> 00:34:45,966
a cow. So we have to 
feed them and make sure

617
00:34:46,066 --> 00:34:49,333
they have water. And make 
sure they, there are not a lot

618
00:34:49,433 --> 00:34:52,133
of flies on them. So they 
don't get sick or nothing.

619
00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:55,300
And then we always just 
walk them and make sure

620
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,800
they're not feeling sick 
or anything. Make sure they're

621
00:34:57,900 --> 00:34:59,966
healthy. Just so to make 
sure they're feeling

622
00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:03,166
their self. Okay so we 
have to check up on them and

623
00:35:03,266 --> 00:35:06,200
make sure they're okay. 
And y'all make sure that

624
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:10,333
they're clean too. Do they 
like to be washed off and

625
00:35:10,433 --> 00:35:13,233
cleaned? I think it cools them 
down. Especially during the

626
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:17,033
summer, it makes them feel 
cooler and relieved to not

627
00:35:17,133 --> 00:35:20,066
be so sweaty and hot 
and everything. Things

628
00:35:20,166 --> 00:35:24,333
that you or judged on are 
two fold, I think. One

629
00:35:24,433 --> 00:35:27,266
involves the cow, how 
the cow looks and one involves

630
00:35:27,366 --> 00:35:30,133
about how you show the 
cow. Can you talk a

631
00:35:30,233 --> 00:35:34,000
little bit about that? Yes, 
so there's certain

632
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:36,600
classes that you can do. 
So, showmanship is about

633
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,000
how you present your 
animal to the judge. And

634
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:44,100
so you want to be, you want 
to have like good posture and

635
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,733
you want be, you want 
him to tell that

636
00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:49,233
you've been working with 
your heifer for awhile,

637
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:52,866
cause you want them to 
kind of listen to you. And

638
00:35:52,966 --> 00:35:56,733
you two will work very 
good together. And then

639
00:35:56,833 --> 00:35:59,500
there's confirmation 
classes, which is

640
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,900
her class to shine. And so 
you want to make her look

641
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,400
the best that she can. And it's 
judged on her dairy character

642
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,533
and how deep she is. 
and her

643
00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:14,800
correctness of her feet and 
legs. And how straight she

644
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:21,066
is over her back. And just an 
overall very good heifer.

645
00:36:21,166 --> 00:36:23,066
Do you feel 
like your confidence

646
00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:26,366
level in almost any 
situation, not just in a

647
00:36:26,466 --> 00:36:31,033
barn, has developed and 
strengthened through this?

648
00:36:31,133 --> 00:36:34,600
Yes ma'am. Just because for 
judging you have to say reasons

649
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:37,600
So you have to talk to the 
judge. So this really you have

650
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,166
to have a lot of confidence 
because you have to speak

651
00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:43,266
up so you can understand what 
you're saying and so you can

652
00:36:43,366 --> 00:36:46,066
be clear about it. So the 
clearer you are, the more

653
00:36:46,166 --> 00:36:48,066
able we are to win.

654
00:36:48,166 --> 00:36:51,933
I think your next big event is 
going to be in Columbia, which

655
00:36:52,033 --> 00:36:55,266
is going to be the State Fair. 
And is that the culmination of a

656
00:36:55,366 --> 00:36:58,366
lot of this work? Yes ma'am. 
It's like where it all comes

657
00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:00,266
together into that last 
final piece where we get

658
00:37:00,366 --> 00:37:02,433
to spend a lot of time 
with our friends and

659
00:37:02,533 --> 00:37:04,666
cousins and like a lot of 
people from different

660
00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:07,333
counties and stuff that are 
in South Carolina. So it's

661
00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:10,066
really nice getting to see 
everyone and getting to know

662
00:37:10,166 --> 00:37:13,466
their cows and getting to 
see everybody, a barn full

663
00:37:13,566 --> 00:37:16,200
of cows. And so it's where 
we everyone comes

664
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,733
together and we'll show 
against each other in a

665
00:37:18,833 --> 00:37:20,700
couple classes usually.

666
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,566
We just have fun 
at that show.

667
00:37:23,666 --> 00:37:32,766
(man auctioning cow)

668
00:37:32,866 --> 00:37:35,166
One thing I was 
wondering about is,

669
00:37:35,266 --> 00:37:38,033
you've had such a close 
relationship with these cows,

670
00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:41,100
what's it like when 
you are taking them

671
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,966
for the last time and 
because part of the

672
00:37:43,066 --> 00:37:45,600
program is that these 
cows are going to go back

673
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:48,166
into the dairy herd. Well, 
it's kind of sad but it's

674
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,700
also kind of happy at the 
same time because you get to

675
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,566
get a new cow. So you get to 
experience someone else.

676
00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:55,900
Because if you don't like 
your cow then you're gonna be

677
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,766
really happy to get 
rid of her.

678
00:37:57,866 --> 00:38:00,166
And you have two cows 
at the same time.

679
00:38:00,266 --> 00:38:02,566
That's kind of interesting. 
Explain that to us.

680
00:38:02,666 --> 00:38:05,166
So you'll get a cow and 
you'll raise it.

681
00:38:05,266 --> 00:38:07,766
And then the following year 
you'll get another calf.

682
00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:13,700
And then that show season at the 
end you'll sell the heifer

683
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,700
that you've had for eighteen 
months. Okay.

684
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,333
And you'll say goodbye? Yes.

685
00:38:18,433 --> 00:38:22,866
But then you'll pack up and come 
home. Yes. And still the process

686
00:38:22,966 --> 00:38:25,666
just keeps on going, doesn't it? 
Yes ma'am.

687
00:38:25,766 --> 00:38:35,100
♪

688
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:41,433
Those little girls were a lot 
better at moving cows around

689
00:38:41,533 --> 00:38:43,766
than I was. I'm glad they 
were doing it.

690
00:38:43,866 --> 00:38:46,900
Let's go to Laurens where 
Reed Edwards is exploring

691
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,466
new ways of finding forage 
for his horses.

692
00:38:52,166 --> 00:39:28,600
♪

693
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,933
I'm in 
Laurens, South Carolina

694
00:39:31,033 --> 00:39:33,566
at FoxPipe Farm. I'm speaking 
with Reed Edwards.

695
00:39:33,666 --> 00:39:37,666
Reed, you have a 
horse farm here and you want

696
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:40,200
to have the best quality 
pastures for your horses

697
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,466
and then you 
also have hay production

698
00:39:43,566 --> 00:39:46,633
as well. Let's talk about what's 
growing in the pastures

699
00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:48,900
and how you manage to keep it

700
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,600
growing vigorously 
for the horses.

701
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:53,933
Okay. What I'm trying to do, 
Amanda, is to have something

702
00:39:54,033 --> 00:39:56,700
green and growing all 
the time for my horses,

703
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,466
and horse pastures are 
notorious for horses overgrazing

704
00:39:59,566 --> 00:40:02,600
an area, eating it down to where 
there's almost nothing

705
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,133
and then leaving tall, 
over mature forage elsewhere.

706
00:40:06,233 --> 00:40:09,033
So, I am using a 
strip grazing concept.

707
00:40:09,133 --> 00:40:13,133
Only give the horses a small 
amount of ground at any time.

708
00:40:13,233 --> 00:40:17,200
They're on that strip of grass 
for one, two, three days.

709
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:21,933
My target is two days. You put a 
lot of animals on that area,

710
00:40:22,033 --> 00:40:25,633
graze the whole thing down and 
then move them onto another area

711
00:40:25,733 --> 00:40:27,966
and 
you let that strip

712
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:31,166
have time to grow back. So you 
get a uniform cutting,

713
00:40:31,266 --> 00:40:32,566
You do. Yes.

714
00:40:32,666 --> 00:40:35,100
So, you bring it down to four, 
five, six inches.

715
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,066
So you still 
have leaf on the plant.

716
00:40:37,166 --> 00:40:39,000
because the leaf is the 
solar panel that

717
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:41,166
lets the plant really come back 
quickly.

718
00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:42,533
So they haven't scalped the 
pasture.

719
00:40:42,633 --> 00:40:46,300
How do you move them 
and fence them in?

720
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,033
There is an exterior fence 
that is electric wire.

721
00:40:49,133 --> 00:40:53,100
I use a single strand of poly 
wire running across the field

722
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,766
with a step-in post, so a few 
minutes

723
00:40:55,866 --> 00:40:58,233
every day you run 
a new strip of wire.

724
00:40:58,333 --> 00:41:01,433
I will move my water trough.

725
00:41:01,533 --> 00:41:04,433
A lot of times I use the 
water to move the animals

726
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:06,700
because there's 
still forage in the

727
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,900
strip where they are so they're 
not dying to leave.

728
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,700
There's still food there.

729
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,266
But you might, particularly 
in the Summer,

730
00:41:13,366 --> 00:41:15,700
move the water trough 
ahead of time and then they get

731
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,766
a little thirsty so 
then they look for water

732
00:41:17,866 --> 00:41:19,400
and they'll move 
following the water.

733
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:22,700
So you don't necessarily have 
to go in and take each horse and

734
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,700
put a lead on him and move him 
over. No, typically you're just

735
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,466
pulling back the last 20 feet of 
fence opening of the gap,

736
00:41:28,566 --> 00:41:30,800
and the horses 
will go right in. And they are

737
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,266
pretty well behaved. That's all 
you need to keep them separated?

738
00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:35,466
Yes, the electric is a 
very effective -

739
00:41:35,566 --> 00:41:38,500
you do have to keep the power 
on it all the time

740
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,233
because they can walk right 
under it otherwise.

741
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,466
No problems 
keeping them in otherwise. What

742
00:41:43,566 --> 00:41:46,400
are the mixtures or blends 
that you have in the pastures?

743
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:51,533
So, I've got a mixture of 
warm season and cool season

744
00:41:51,633 --> 00:41:54,833
grasses: Bermuda and fescue. The 
problem with fescue is we you

745
00:41:54,933 --> 00:41:58,233
have a toxic tall fescue in 
this part of the world

746
00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:01,833
that survives well 
because of the fungus that

747
00:42:01,933 --> 00:42:03,833
lives inside the fescue plant.

748
00:42:03,933 --> 00:42:06,733
That's the endophyte problem 
they talk about? It is.

749
00:42:06,833 --> 00:42:10,200
The toxic endophyte problem. 
It gives - good properties in

750
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:14,500
surviving our hot summers 
because fescue is a cool season

751
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,633
plant. It is also toxic however, 
to our livestock that eat that.

752
00:42:18,733 --> 00:42:22,333
Estimates are between a billion 
and two billion dollars per year

753
00:42:22,433 --> 00:42:24,933
in the south to 
livestock operations.

754
00:42:25,033 --> 00:42:27,333
So the fungus that's protecting 
the plant unfortunately

755
00:42:27,433 --> 00:42:29,833
produces compounds that 
are harmful to the animal.

756
00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:31,633
Yes, ma'am.

757
00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:33,366
How are you getting around that?

758
00:42:33,466 --> 00:42:36,566
I am transitioning 
my farm over to a

759
00:42:36,666 --> 00:42:39,633
novel endophyte tall fescue. 
There are fescues

760
00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:42,366
that have no endophyte and

761
00:42:42,466 --> 00:42:44,500
they have no problems for the 
grazing livestock.

762
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,266
But they don't 
persist very well

763
00:42:46,366 --> 00:42:50,366
because the endophyte does give 
protection to the plant.

764
00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:52,300
There are novel endophytes 
so they have removed

765
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,000
the endophyte or 
fungus and put in a

766
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,866
different fungus that gives the 
plant the beneficial properties

767
00:42:58,966 --> 00:43:00,900
in survival but not the toxic 
properties

768
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
to the animal. 
And then, what are the

769
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:06,066
other grasses and 
seeds that you have?

770
00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:10,333
I also have an annual 
field that is a

771
00:43:10,433 --> 00:43:12,733
mixture - about a 10 
way mixture of a -

772
00:43:12,833 --> 00:43:15,266
lot of times folks call it a 
cover crop now.

773
00:43:15,366 --> 00:43:18,366
So, one or two grasses, two or

774
00:43:18,466 --> 00:43:22,533
three legumes and also some 
brassicas in there.

775
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:24,466
So for my winter mix 
in the winter field,

776
00:43:24,566 --> 00:43:29,466
there is oats and wheat, 
ryegrass and then

777
00:43:29,566 --> 00:43:34,633
crimson clover, winter peas, 
turnips, radishes and rape.

778
00:43:34,733 --> 00:43:37,633
Horses like that. Horses 
will eat all of that.

779
00:43:37,733 --> 00:43:40,666
They don't have 
to just have grass.

780
00:43:40,766 --> 00:43:42,766
Not just grass and the 
clovers and

781
00:43:42,866 --> 00:43:44,966
legumes are higher quality feed 
so you get a

782
00:43:45,066 --> 00:43:46,933
little bit more 
quality in there.

783
00:43:47,033 --> 00:43:49,600
It's also nice to be 
able to go out and pick

784
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:51,466
the greens and have 
fresh greens for supper

785
00:43:51,566 --> 00:43:54,033
every night. Here we are 
going into the fall and we're

786
00:43:54,133 --> 00:43:56,466
in Bermuda grass, but we've got 
some other things

787
00:43:56,566 --> 00:43:58,233
that are coming up 
in this pasture.

788
00:43:58,333 --> 00:44:02,166
Right, so this is primarily a 
hayfield that has

789
00:44:02,266 --> 00:44:04,000
had alfalfa overseeded into it.

790
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,433
So it's an 
alfalfa-Bermuda mixture.

791
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:08,000
That's actually what I'm sitting 
on here on the hay bale.

792
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,400
So this is baled for hay.

793
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:12,600
It will be gray 
some over the winter.

794
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,533
This is primarily for hay.

795
00:44:14,633 --> 00:44:18,700
This is primarily for 
hay. It's a grazing tolerant

796
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,500
variety of alfalfa so I will 
graze it some over the winter.

797
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,900
When the weather is 
too cool to make hay.

798
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,233
Then you've got a new hay 
that you're growing

799
00:44:27,333 --> 00:44:29,066
that's completely novel to me.

800
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,600
Yes, and that is Sericea 
Lespedeza.

801
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,600
It's actually an old plant 
that was very common in this

802
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,900
area up until about 
the 50's or the 60's.

803
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,533
Sericea Lespedeza is a legume. 
It's a warm season legume.

804
00:44:41,633 --> 00:44:44,366
It pulls its own nitrogen in 
from the air and

805
00:44:44,466 --> 00:44:48,766
it also has the 
wonderful property of being a

806
00:44:48,866 --> 00:44:52,133
de-wormer for sheep and goats. 
Let's talk a little bit

807
00:44:52,233 --> 00:44:54,433
about why, now that we've 
got a lot

808
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:57,000
of people that are hobby 
farmers or small farmers

809
00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:00,600
adding those to 
their farm plan and they're

810
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:03,833
running into problems with a 
worm that's in the soil.

811
00:45:03,933 --> 00:45:06,600
The small worm that sheeps and 
goats primarily -

812
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:10,400
the barber 
pole worm Haemonchus contortus

813
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,300
is very resistant to our 
chemical de-wormers and is

814
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,900
very harmful, even deadly 
to the sheep and the goats.

815
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,900
So how does the Sericea play 
into this game?

816
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,333
It reduces the fecal egg counts 
almost immediately

817
00:45:23,433 --> 00:45:26,366
on sheep and goats. It also 
protects against toxidia.

818
00:45:26,466 --> 00:45:30,833
Sericea has condensed tannins 
inside the forage

819
00:45:30,933 --> 00:45:34,733
and that is what has the action 
against the worms.

820
00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:36,900
They don't know exact how it 
works just yet,

821
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,900
but it is very 
effective against them.

822
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,566
It's really easy to grow. 
Is is. It will tolerate

823
00:45:41,666 --> 00:45:44,066
poor quality, low ph soil

824
00:45:44,166 --> 00:45:46,766
which we have a lot of in this 
part of the world

825
00:45:46,866 --> 00:45:49,266
and where alfalfa, a lot of 
times we don't have the

826
00:45:49,366 --> 00:45:52,166
fertility to grow. Sericea 
will grow just about anywhere.

827
00:45:52,266 --> 00:45:54,866
In fact, they put it on the 
sides of road banks

828
00:45:54,966 --> 00:45:56,900
when they have graded 
a new road and they've

829
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,233
taken all the top soil away 
and yet Sericea will still grow

830
00:46:00,333 --> 00:46:02,666
there. I know that goats 
will probably eat it

831
00:46:02,766 --> 00:46:04,800
up and enjoy it, 
but the other animals,

832
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,233
will they eat 
it as well?

833
00:46:06,333 --> 00:46:08,966
They really do. It seems to 
be, as far as hay usage,

834
00:46:09,066 --> 00:46:11,533
it is the preferred hay over 
everything I have found.

835
00:46:11,633 --> 00:46:12,866
Even for your horses?

836
00:46:12,966 --> 00:46:15,500
Even for my horses. Sometimes 
the horses will sometimes eat

837
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,500
that before they'll 
eat sweet feed.

838
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,466
Very, very palatable hay. 
Reed, I have enjoyed learning

839
00:46:21,566 --> 00:46:25,300
about someone who is staying 
current with all the research

840
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,733
and new ways of doing things to 
keep a farm profitable

841
00:46:27,833 --> 00:46:30,100
and healthy for the animals. I 
want to thank you

842
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,833
for letting us 
visit with you.

843
00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:34,300
If people want to learn 
more about the processes

844
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,800
here, what's the best way 
to get in touch with you?

845
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:45,233
By phone at 864-871-2575 or 
by email at Reede@pikesfarm.com.

846
00:46:45,333 --> 00:46:47,600
Thank you for explaining all 
this to me today.

847
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:49,100
Sure thing. 
Thanks for coming, Amanda.

848
00:46:50,466 --> 00:46:55,200
♪

849
00:46:58,466 --> 00:47:01,933
Reed is really gracious, sharing 
his talents and knowledge.

850
00:47:02,033 --> 00:47:04,933
He has field days at his farm. 
And I think some

851
00:47:05,033 --> 00:47:07,600
of his innovations are going to 
make a difference to

852
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:08,700
people down the road.

853
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,900
We're now going to the 
State Farmer's Market

854
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,266
where there is really a brand 
new way of farming

855
00:47:14,366 --> 00:47:16,400
going on. This is going 
to be fascinating.

856
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:18,766
Let's visit Vertical Roots.

857
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:43,766
♪

858
00:47:43,866 --> 00:47:46,666
I'm speaking with Andrew Hare 
who is a co founder

859
00:47:46,766 --> 00:47:49,766
and manager of Vertical 
Roots a very unusual way

860
00:47:49,866 --> 00:47:52,933
of farming. And tell me 
how you got involved in a

861
00:47:53,033 --> 00:47:55,133
different way of going 
plants in South Carolina.

862
00:47:55,233 --> 00:47:57,233
absolutely well thanks 
for having me. Vertical

863
00:47:57,333 --> 00:47:59,500
Roots started about four 
years ago. Twenty fifteen

864
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,266
a buddy and I wanted to 
basically approach a

865
00:48:02,366 --> 00:48:04,333
different way of growing. 
I had always been

866
00:48:04,433 --> 00:48:06,133
interested in growing 
plants growing up, in

867
00:48:06,233 --> 00:48:08,866
animals in general. And we 
decided to embark on the

868
00:48:08,966 --> 00:48:11,200
hydroponic way of growing 
which is soil less. You're

869
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,266
using water and nutrients 
for us we use

870
00:48:13,366 --> 00:48:16,366
coconut husks to be able to grow 
the plants. And so what

871
00:48:16,466 --> 00:48:18,600
kind of started off as a 
hobby over the last

872
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:20,133
couple years has 
blossomed into a

873
00:48:20,233 --> 00:48:21,533
relationship with the 
manufacturing company

874
00:48:21,633 --> 00:48:24,733
that we are now part of. 
So we basically go from a

875
00:48:24,833 --> 00:48:26,866
blank shipping container 
all the way through the

876
00:48:26,966 --> 00:48:28,800
process. So what Vertical 
Roots does is farming

877
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:30,933
operation to grow will be 
focused on is leafy

878
00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:33,266
greens and lettuce here in 
South Carolina. Well and it

879
00:48:33,366 --> 00:48:35,500
sounds like the idea of 
using a shipping

880
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,200
container when it's at 
the end of its life of

881
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:40,100
being sturdy 
enough to send across the

882
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,566
ocean and haul up and 
down all that kind of stuff.

883
00:48:43,666 --> 00:48:46,266
Being sustainable, I think 
has driven you.

884
00:48:46,366 --> 00:48:48,133
So tell me 
how the shipping

885
00:48:48,233 --> 00:48:50,266
containers are used. And 
then let's expand from

886
00:48:50,366 --> 00:48:52,500
there. Yeah the biggest 
thing that we're trying

887
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,166
to do is, be sustainable 
in our practices. So the

888
00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:57,400
the shipping container 
one allows us to mitigate

889
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:00,000
risks, compartmentalize and 
build to grow in an

890
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:01,933
isolated controlled 
environment. But the great

891
00:49:02,033 --> 00:49:04,133
thing with a shipping 
container is to your point

892
00:49:04,233 --> 00:49:06,700
it's end of its life cycle, 
why not up cycle another

893
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,133
piece of our equipment 
that no longer has a need

894
00:49:09,233 --> 00:49:11,100
so when they're going 
back and forth overseas,

895
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,366
and they get de-commissioned 
to come back to port,

896
00:49:13,466 --> 00:49:14,800
we purchased 
those from local companies

897
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:16,466
and turn those 
into grow environments.

898
00:49:16,566 --> 00:49:18,700
And I believe that the 
whole business is all

899
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,933
under one umbrella now. 
The shipping containers

900
00:49:21,033 --> 00:49:22,933
are re-purposed all the 
infrastructure that goes

901
00:49:23,033 --> 00:49:25,900
into them is part of the 
whole company. Yes so we have

902
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,900
two sister companies. So 
Vertical Roots is a

903
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,433
farming operation of just 
production. Tiger Corner

904
00:49:30,533 --> 00:49:32,433
Farms is our 
manufacturing arm. So they

905
00:49:32,533 --> 00:49:34,200
literally take that blank 
shipping container and

906
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:37,266
outfit it with the air 
conditioning, the plumbing, the

907
00:49:37,366 --> 00:49:40,033
lights, everything you 
need to be able to grow a plant.

908
00:49:40,133 --> 00:49:42,333
And then we also have a 
technology company, Boxcar

909
00:49:42,433 --> 00:49:44,366
Central, that handles all 
of our software,

910
00:49:44,466 --> 00:49:47,066
automation, we're able to 
pick up our phone and

911
00:49:47,166 --> 00:49:49,200
make controls and changes 
to the farm itself

912
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:51,100
through a cloud based 
system that we also

913
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,766
operate. Well, we're 
sitting here with the

914
00:49:52,866 --> 00:49:55,400
beautiful array of leafy 
greens. Is that the

915
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,766
product that y'all are now 
focusing on? Yes ma'am.

916
00:49:57,866 --> 00:49:59,433
That's exactly we're 
focusing on. It's leafy

917
00:49:59,533 --> 00:50:01,400
greens is a nice supplement 
compliment to the

918
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,933
southeast traditionally 
grown in just two states

919
00:50:04,033 --> 00:50:06,333
in the west coast. It's 
trucked over two thousand

920
00:50:06,433 --> 00:50:09,333
miles to get to us. So for 
us we are able to find

921
00:50:09,433 --> 00:50:10,666
something that's 
conducive to the

922
00:50:10,766 --> 00:50:12,500
environment we grow in, 
complimenting traditional

923
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,100
agriculture in the 
southeast. It's something

924
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,266
that really just doesn't 
do very well when it's

925
00:50:16,366 --> 00:50:18,900
hot and humid like it is 
here in South Carolina.

926
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,733
And so you actually start 
with these little plugs

927
00:50:21,833 --> 00:50:24,233
and I'll hold one up. And 
you say this is mostly

928
00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:26,366
coconuts bark. Yes. Coconut bark 
because a number of

929
00:50:26,466 --> 00:50:29,033
things that go into that. 
But we chose that. It grows

930
00:50:29,133 --> 00:50:31,600
plants well for us. Yes. 
But it's able to be

931
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:33,666
composted. It can be 
eaten by livestock if we

932
00:50:33,766 --> 00:50:35,666
donate to a farm, 
maybe some pigs or such

933
00:50:35,766 --> 00:50:38,033
that want to be able to enjoy 
some of the leftover

934
00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:40,833
greens and roots there will be 
able to eat that

935
00:50:40,933 --> 00:50:42,966
coconut as well. So you start by 
actually seeding into

936
00:50:43,066 --> 00:50:44,800
that by hand - your farmers. 
Yes.

937
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,200
Our farmers do all of the 
seeding, the transplanting

938
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:50,366
and the harvesting and again 
your software program is

939
00:50:50,466 --> 00:50:52,900
introducing the correct 
stream of nutrients

940
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,800
depending on which 
lettuce wants what. Some want

941
00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:58,833
a little more of one 
thing, a little less of

942
00:50:58,933 --> 00:51:00,900
another. Is that correct? Yeah 
everything you could

943
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,433
think of, we can control, CO 
two, humidity, nutrients,

944
00:51:03,533 --> 00:51:06,333
water temperature, PH, the 
list goes on. Our software

945
00:51:06,433 --> 00:51:08,433
controls all of those 
functions. And it's pretty much

946
00:51:08,533 --> 00:51:10,466
hands off. This is an 
extremely clean crop. It

947
00:51:10,566 --> 00:51:13,133
is. We don't have to use any 
foliar sprays. So there's

948
00:51:13,233 --> 00:51:14,600
no pesticides or 
insecticides you're gonna

949
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,000
find on the greens. So 
again for the consumer,

950
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:19,300
it's something that's 
very important to us that they

951
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,400
have a fresh clean 
product that we know when

952
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:23,766
they're eating that it's 
gonna be a healthy option

953
00:51:23,866 --> 00:51:26,766
for them. Well, in my garden at 
home I've had to water a

954
00:51:26,866 --> 00:51:28,433
lot because it's been so 
dry lately.

955
00:51:28,533 --> 00:51:30,900
I believe that your water 
use is much smaller than

956
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,266
one might expect. 
Absolutely, so because

957
00:51:33,366 --> 00:51:35,133
it's a closed loop 
re-circulating system it's

958
00:51:35,233 --> 00:51:37,200
about ninety five ninety 
seven percent more

959
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:39,466
efficient than what you 
would do traditionally. So

960
00:51:39,566 --> 00:51:41,566
to give an example, 34 
hundred of these

961
00:51:41,666 --> 00:51:43,900
plants will grow in a 
container at any given time.

962
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,866
And they may consume 
about ten gallons of

963
00:51:45,966 --> 00:51:48,600
water into the entire 
crop in just one day.

964
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:51,133
So if you compare that to 
what you do outdoors, it's

965
00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:53,266
night and day difference 
of what we're consuming

966
00:51:53,366 --> 00:51:55,500
for water and nutrients. 
When they're ready

967
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,900
how do you harvest 
and how do you prepare

968
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,200
them to send to the 
market? Yes so the team

969
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,133
just like they do with the 
seeding and transplanting,

970
00:52:02,233 --> 00:52:04,433
we have the team that goes 
in there and harvests.

971
00:52:04,533 --> 00:52:06,800
They do the roots attached to 
that so the head is

972
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:08,566
actually coming out of 
the system still alive,

973
00:52:08,666 --> 00:52:10,466
which of course helps 
with the freshness and

974
00:52:10,566 --> 00:52:12,266
quality of the plants. 
It's not going to

975
00:52:12,366 --> 00:52:13,866
continue to grow 
necessarily but it is

976
00:52:13,966 --> 00:52:15,966
still sustaining itself 
in a lot fresher than

977
00:52:16,066 --> 00:52:18,433
having to cut that off. So 
the team will go in there

978
00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:20,566
with their carts and just 
harvest all those plants

979
00:52:20,666 --> 00:52:22,800
into bins and they go 
into basically a packing

980
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:24,900
room that's brought down 
to fifty degrees in

981
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,066
temperature, that's got a 
cold storage attached to

982
00:52:27,166 --> 00:52:29,500
it. So the plant is then 
being cared for as it

983
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,333
goes through the 
production line and it

984
00:52:31,433 --> 00:52:33,900
can go to a restaurant. It 
can be going to a grocery

985
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,866
store. So depending on 
where it's going to will

986
00:52:35,966 --> 00:52:38,133
dictate how it's gonna be 
packaged when it's in that

987
00:52:38,233 --> 00:52:40,333
kind of cold room 
environment. And at each

988
00:52:40,433 --> 00:52:42,300
phase, hygiene is very 
important? Yes. Every

989
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,266
decision that our company 
makes whether it's

990
00:52:44,366 --> 00:52:46,666
technology, manufacturing 
or us growing it is

991
00:52:46,766 --> 00:52:49,433
with food safety in mind. 
Everyone's very aware

992
00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:52,266
that just one corner 
being cut can mean the

993
00:52:52,366 --> 00:52:54,300
difference of someone 
being sick and not

994
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,333
to being able to properly 
utilize our product the

995
00:52:57,433 --> 00:53:01,466
way that we want it to be. 
So gloves, washed hands, bio

996
00:53:01,566 --> 00:53:03,766
security is what we call 
it. Not allowing people to

997
00:53:03,866 --> 00:53:05,600
come in without going 
through a certain

998
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:07,533
protocol into the farm 
system itself are all

999
00:53:07,633 --> 00:53:09,666
things that we take very 
seriously. And also I

1000
00:53:09,766 --> 00:53:12,733
believe there's a very 
systematic system of

1001
00:53:12,833 --> 00:53:15,800
cleaning after each 
harvest. Yes so we make

1002
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:17,600
sure after all those 
plants are harvested, the

1003
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:19,700
team comes through there, 
rinses out all the root

1004
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,733
debris or anything that's 
kinda left over from that

1005
00:53:21,833 --> 00:53:24,166
harvest and then the farm 
goes through a sanitation

1006
00:53:24,266 --> 00:53:26,266
process, where it's going 
to be basically scrubbed

1007
00:53:26,366 --> 00:53:29,200
down and cleaned, then 
sanitized, the water gets

1008
00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:31,133
tested and then we 
transplant new plants into

1009
00:53:31,233 --> 00:53:33,266
that so once all those 
tasks and completed. And

1010
00:53:33,366 --> 00:53:34,933
again with y'all's 
emphasis, I believe all

1011
00:53:35,033 --> 00:53:37,433
the products used are 
ones that are considered to be

1012
00:53:37,533 --> 00:53:39,900
sustainable and not 
particularly harsh? Right.

1013
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,033
So while we're not 
organic certified. We're organic

1014
00:53:42,133 --> 00:53:44,766
in practice. We use 
listed ingredients. Again

1015
00:53:44,866 --> 00:53:46,700
staying away from those 
really harsh chemicals

1016
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,933
and pesticides, reusing 
things like alprocide

1017
00:53:49,033 --> 00:53:51,600
that you're able to get 
the cleaning that you

1018
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,700
need to get done out of 
it without any over

1019
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,433
lasting or long lasting 
residue that's going to

1020
00:53:55,533 --> 00:53:58,166
be left behind with some other 
chemicals. So I could go

1021
00:53:58,266 --> 00:54:00,633
to the store and found 
this and enjoy it at home

1022
00:54:00,733 --> 00:54:02,800
in my salads. What about 
restaurants? Do you have a

1023
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:04,900
different way of packing 
for them? Yes so the heads

1024
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,400
are gonna go, roots attached 
into a case that the

1025
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:09,633
restaurants are gonna be 
able to pick more of a variety

1026
00:54:09,733 --> 00:54:12,033
of different products we 
offer them. We work with

1027
00:54:12,133 --> 00:54:14,266
really everything in the 
Low country to the

1028
00:54:14,366 --> 00:54:16,533
Midlands, from your fast 
casual places like a

1029
00:54:16,633 --> 00:54:18,700
salad bar to your fine 
dining restaurants that

1030
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,133
are really taking 
our lettuce and making a

1031
00:54:21,233 --> 00:54:23,133
masterpiece out of it. And 
here at the farmer's

1032
00:54:23,233 --> 00:54:25,100
market, I believe you're 
working in cooperation

1033
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,566
with one of our well, well 
established fruit and

1034
00:54:27,666 --> 00:54:29,933
vegetable suppliers. Yes. 
So we're fortunate to be

1035
00:54:30,033 --> 00:54:32,333
in the farmers market 
here in Columbia. So that

1036
00:54:32,433 --> 00:54:34,433
allows us to be able to 
work with the

1037
00:54:34,533 --> 00:54:35,766
distributors, Senn 
Brothers right next door

1038
00:54:35,866 --> 00:54:38,266
to us, we're able to bring 
our truck just a hundred

1039
00:54:38,366 --> 00:54:40,366
yards down the street 
and pack, unload our

1040
00:54:40,466 --> 00:54:42,566
packages right into their 
facility and out they go

1041
00:54:42,666 --> 00:54:44,166
to our different 
customers. Well Andrew

1042
00:54:44,266 --> 00:54:45,966
this has just been 
fascinating and I can't

1043
00:54:46,066 --> 00:54:48,933
wait to share your story with 
other people around the state.

1044
00:54:49,033 --> 00:54:51,200
Well, thank you. I really 
appreciate you having me.

1045
00:54:57,633 --> 00:55:02,266
Imagine salad greens that don't 
have sand blown all over them.

1046
00:55:02,366 --> 00:55:04,900
You don't have to use your 
spinning bowl, nearly as

1047
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,100
much as you do. And the carbon 
footprint is so much less

1048
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,200
because they're grown right here 
in South Carolina.

1049
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:12,600
And they don't have to be 
shipped across the country.

1050
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:15,433
We really wish them great 
success with this new innovation

1051
00:55:15,533 --> 00:55:16,700
that they are doing.

1052
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,533
And we want to thank you so 
much for joining us tonight.

1053
00:55:19,633 --> 00:55:22,333
We love knowing that you're out 
there. Please write us and

1054
00:55:22,433 --> 00:55:24,100
call us. Tell us how you think

1055
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,900
we're doing with this new way of 
coming to visit with you.

1056
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,566
We're trying and every Tuesday 
night. If you'll cut us on

1057
00:55:29,666 --> 00:55:32,733
at 7 o clock, we'll have another 
Making It Grow ready for you.

1058
00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:34,033
Night, Night.

1059
00:55:34,133 --> 00:55:38,533
♪

1060
00:55:46,333 --> 00:55:47,666
Making it Grow is brought

1061
00:55:47,766 --> 00:55:50,466
to you in part by the 
South Carolina Department

1062
00:55:50,566 --> 00:55:53,633
of Agriculture. Certified 
South Carolina grown

1063
00:55:53,733 --> 00:55:57,033
helps consumers identify 
find and buy South

1064
00:55:57,133 --> 00:56:00,466
Carolina products. McLeod 
Farms in McBee

1065
00:56:00,566 --> 00:56:03,500
South Carolina. This 
family farm offers

1066
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,033
seasonal produce 
including over 22

1067
00:56:06,133 --> 00:56:09,300
varieties of peaches. 
Additional funding

1068
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,566
provided by International 
Paper and the South

1069
00:56:12,666 --> 00:56:14,933
Carolina Farm Bureau 
Federation and Farm

1070
00:56:15,033 --> 00:56:16,300
Bureau Insurance.