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South Carolina.

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including over 22
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Well, Hello and good evening.
We're so glad you could

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join us tonight for Making
It Grow. I'm Amanda Mculty.

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And we're getting ready
to have a hodge podge

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of visits to some

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of our favorite places
in the past.

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We're going to start off
in Camden at a farm

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where they're growing wonderful
vegetables and flowers.

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But I assure you,

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There's not much else that's
very normal about it.

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♪ (upbeat music)

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I'm visiting with Stephanie
Tetterton and her garden in

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downtown Camden. Stephanie
thanks for letting us come.

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Absolutely. Thank you. I
appreciate it so much,

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y'all coming by. You grew up I
think with your mother and

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father helping
them garden.

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Was it a lot of fun back then?
No, not so much.

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Where was that? And tell me

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what they did with
all their produce?

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It was in Finklea, South
Carolina in Horry County.

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And pretty much
what we did, was we

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just gave most of
it away. And what we

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didn't give away, my mom canned
or put up for produce.

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Busy summers. And
then there was

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one thing
ya'll grew that

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was kind of an heirloom in your
family your mother

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brought into the marriage.
Tell us about that.

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It's now called the Shirley
Hammond Multiplier Onion.

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But, it's a little small onion.

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Its no bigger than
about the size of a dime, when

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it's dry. And basically when you
plant it will multiply from

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one to anywhere from seven
to fifteen. My word and do they

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kind of stay in a big bunch.
Tight bunch.

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And your mother said that they

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had a wonderful flavor. She
liked to use it

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in what dishes? Roasts! She
likes to use them in roasts.

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It doesn't take
but a little bit of

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one to really make a nice roast.

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That's fabulous! And when
you got here to Camden and

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married you wanted to kind of
continue that. I did. So, in

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2003 when we got
married, I didn't necessarily

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have a garden right away, but my
father passed away.

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When he did, she mailed those
onions to me, later came to

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help me plant those onions. To
kinda get the tradition back

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started at my own home.
Tell me how you ended up

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expanding into this beautiful
garden you have today?

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as time went on, we
just need a bigger place

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to expand. And so when this
property come up we were

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able to acquire it. It's
just right down the road

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from our home. So, my husband

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helped me to keep
expanding really each

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and every year from it. And you
enjoy finding things like

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this onion are a
little bit different.

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Absolutely! Well, I love
cauliflower.

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Cauliflower's so
cool in the early

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Spring and then
later I like to

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transition to odd tomatoes or
you know heirloom tomatoes. And

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really my next favorite
thing would probably be, I

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don't know, growing squash. I
like growing winter squash

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different ones. Well let's talk
a little about these cauliflower

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because - you are kind
of an artist, Yes! And you

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like color and that is
reflected in some of these.

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Absolutely! I like the
cauliflower I make are purple.

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They're green. They're orange.
And so, it just adds a lot of

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fun to the garden. And then
you had some

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beets that were a little bit
different. Absolutely!

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I have
golden beets. I have your

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standard red beets. And
then of course you've got your

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beets that are red and white,
candy striped.

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So, it's just a bunch of
different varieties there.

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How bout these turnips?
The turnips are

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Japanese Salad Turnips. I
have both the Scarlet Queen Red

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type and then a little white
Japanese type. And they're just

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kind of a sweet instead of
being like a tangy radish it's

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more of a sweet taste to it. So
it's more palatable for folks.

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And then of course given your
personality I think flowers are

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a big part of this.
I love zinnias.

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That's my husband's, one of his
favorite flowers. At the ends of

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each garden we do plant tons of
zinnia, just so that we can, you

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know, make those into flower
arrangements later and then

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give them to folks if they get
sick or need a pick me up.

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You're out here fighting
with bugs because they like

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this as much as we do.
Yes. The main

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thing you use is what?

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I use diatomaceous earth
as much as I can.

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I try to remain
organic but

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with squash bugs or even cut
worms at times, I do have to use

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pyrethrins products. Tell me how
your husband helped you solve

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the nut grass problem. Well
instead of doing overhead

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watering which is what we did
initially,

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he researched it
and found that maybe we

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should do drip irrigation.
So now

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we basically just drip each
line so that we provide less

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water to the area. And it's more
conservative to water,

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as well. So, it's better. And
here you are in a lovely little

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dress and bare feet which -

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(giggling)

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You said, That's my
thing! That's my normal way.

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But, you are not somebody who

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just directs
people in the garden.

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This is your garden. And you do
all the work? I do all the work.

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I have no help other than my

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husband who does a lot of work.
He helps me of course with the

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irrigation. He keeps all the
tractors running. For the

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most part I'm out
here weeding myself,

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putting up for the tomatoes.
I do all the tractor

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driving myself, other
than the tilling, which he does

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with his M.

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♪

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♪ (tractor engine starting
upbeat music) ♪

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Let's talk about this

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crazy collection of tractors.
Yeah! Explain to me why

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there are so many? Yeah! Well,
it's like anything.

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It starts with one. So, it
started with my husband's M.

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He obtained that upon his
grandfather's death and from

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there, I loved it. So, he's
like, 'I'll get you one.'

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It started off with my little
baby cub and each year, as

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folks saw that we liked them,
they would offer one to us.

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And you know, one
was from a neighbor,

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Mister Jack Moak. And when he

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passed away he and his family
wanted us to have that. So we

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acquired that from him. And
just different ones. People just

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say, 'Hey! I know you liked
them.

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Would you like to get this?
Like your parents,

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you don't spend all summer

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putting things up, because you
helped your husband

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every day almost, That's right!
He owns the Mill Village

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Veterinarian. So,he's a
single solo vet.

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And I'm pretty much the office
manager. So we

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work together regularly every
day, trying to help animals.

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So, with the produce that you
collect though, I think you

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carry on the family tradition.
That's exactly right.

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You know I live in a mill
village community.

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So, what I try to do

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is to keep that mantra of just
giving back. And so, whatever I

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produce, large in part, I give
away to my neighbors. Stephanie

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Tetterton, it's been a delight
to be with you today.

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Thank you. Absolutely! I
Appreciate it

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♪

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Stephanie Tetterton is really
a remarkable woman.

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We had fun visiting her. And now
we're going down

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to Clarendon County where
Dr. John Nelson

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and I are going to explore a
seep.

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♪

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We're in Clarendon County near
the lovely town of Pinewood.

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Today we are visiting the farm
that belongs to Chase Smoak's

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family. Chase is the new
extension agent with

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Sumter County and I'm
with Doctor John Nelson

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of the A.C. Herbarium at

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the University of South Carolina
who loves to go botonizing.

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And I think you just about died
and gone to heaven down here.

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I think this is going to end
up being one of my

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famous botany places from
now on. And John looking

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around people would say, 'Gosh,
it looks a little bleak.'

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And that's because this
property, this section was

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logged, which is wonderful.
You can send

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your children to college and
plants like it when you remove

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the timber. There's been a
considerable amount of

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disturbance here in
this formerly wooded area.

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They cut down most of the trees
as you see around here.

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Others have been re-planted. So
they're growing another forest.

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Meanwhile, all the
plants that had

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been here, suddenly have been
released because there's a lot

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more sunlight coming down.
The ones that were just...

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whoo, here's a little bit of sun
every, just struggling along,

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suddenly you know it's
wonderful for them.

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So they'll be able to attain
greater size and reproductive

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vigor we like to see. And
there's even something more

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special happening here. That's
because this is what is called

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a seep,
which sounds kinda like

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something's leaking. Is water
kind of leaking? It is sort of

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leaking. And it's kind of hard
to pin down what exactly a

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seep is or seepage
sometimes we call it.

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But they're generally

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wet places on otherwise dry
hillside or slope of some sort.

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And the presence of water
generally, the constant presence

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of water, really has a great
effect on the plant

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life that's going to develop at
such a place. While we were

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tropping around. I have
on high boots, you

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just got your feet wet, we saw a
fascinating display of plants,

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some of which have to have this
kind of situation. Let's talk

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about some of the ones that you
spotted here today that are

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specific to places that have
more moisture than normal.

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And most of those are wetland
plants, that is plants that are

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typically found in association
with water or actually in water.

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I guess those are the
aquatic plants. A lot of

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the plants that we have around
here are indeed wetland species.

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We saw a lot of sedges to
start with.

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Sedges are great stand.
We're standing

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right in it now, a big patch of
Rhynchospora or Beak Rush.

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They're actually several species
of Beak rush that are out here

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and they're a very
interesting group of species.

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And beyond the Beak Rush,
there are other sedges -

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I don't even know it has a

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common name but Fuirena
is a genus and

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beyond those there are quite a
number of different grasses

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that are present. And we think
of grasses as being in more

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dry places. But there are some
that want this. Which are some

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of the grasses that we saw. One
of the very common grasses it's

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almost in every wetland estate
is a panic grass, which we

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found. And it's very easy to
identify as long as you have

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a hand lens because it's got
little bumps on it's spikelets.

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You let me look at that a little
bit. And then we saw some

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flowering plants.
And everything flowers.

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We saw some things that people

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who like color and more what
seems like a plant. Conspicuous

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flowers are what most people
see when they go on a botany

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trip. One was orange and it was
just bright and shiny. I mean.

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And it's gorgeous that was
probably the Orange

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Milkwort, which actually Chase
found, and we made such a fuss

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about Polygala lutea which
is a beautiful thing. But we

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also saw species of Rhexia, the
Meadow Beauty and then we

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also saw Seed Box. the reddish
seed box. There's a

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species called Ludwigia
leptocarpa which grows runners

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tiny little yellow petals.
Beautiful stuff and a lot of

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these things would actually be
suitable I think for a bog

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garden. Lobelia. Lobelia I
think that's kind of my fave

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out here. It's got a sort of a
sky blue corolla of

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flowers. Beautiful and they
really do love these wet places

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that are full of sunlight. We
saw a clamoring vine that you

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said is nice because it's late.
And when pollinators... It's

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one of the few viney species

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that we've got in the sunflower
family. And it's got a funny

14:46.566 --> 14:50.966 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5%
name, Climbing Hemp.
And that's Mikania scandens,

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which is actually probably in
every county of South Carolina.

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I think it's lovely. I do too.

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I wish I had some behind my
house at the deck.

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Well, you have a lot
of things there.

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But, I'm sure Chase would
happily let you do

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some collecting. And then John
interestingly, we do also see

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things that we associate with
regular soil situations,

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that sometimes or even for dry
places we see Bracken fern.

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Bracken fern of course that's
one of them that's kinda an

15:21.066 --> 15:25.133 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100%
odd ball sort of a fern. It can
be on the very driest slopes.

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All you gotta do is go to
someplace like Peachtree Rock.

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to see it. You can also find
that in fairly wet ditches of

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the coastal plain. Here it's
sort of betwixt in between

15:35.566 --> 15:39.200 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100%
because it will get down into
this seepage area although we

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would think that it's more at
home on the drier part of the

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hillside. And then I've got on
a black shirt and I had

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to kind of fluff it off. I had a
lot of seeds on me.

15:50.666 --> 15:53.566 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100%
And those were from I think
just our common Broom sedge.

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Broom sedge is very abundant
out here and it's like going

15:56.933 --> 16:00.000 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5%
crazy now, fruiting.
It's making it's

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little spikelets, one seeded
fruits, grains. And it can be in

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dry fields or very adaptable
and can be found in other

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places. Now there are a number
of species of Broom sedges

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of Andropogon.
They're not always

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easy to identify. I'll leave
that to you. Grasses are

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difficult. John I was talking
with my friend Mike Stallworth

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who had been with DNR and he
said the seepages also are

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important for wildlife,
particularly amphibians which we

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don't often think about. But
they're kind of having

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trouble sometimes because the
ground stays wet enough for them

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to be able to have their
reproductive - To breed and

16:40.933 --> 16:44.900 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
of course since it is a seepage
and not a pond or some kind

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of a little lake, there aren't
gonna be any fish to bother.

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(laughter)

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Some little tadpole's aren't
going to end up in the bream.

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That's important
for the herpetologist to be

16:56.166 --> 17:00.766 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
aware of places like this that
are at least potential habitat

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for different kinds of
amphibians and reptiles. As we

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see our state changing and we
lose some of these micro

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climates. It's important that
they are recognized and I think

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Chase and his family are saying
that this one, they believe that

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they'll even though we've got
some pines on it, they're

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gonna burn it periodically. And
that will allow the sunlight

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to continue so that these plants
you described can have a

17:25.300 --> 17:28.200 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
vigorous growth. That would not
keep knocking back the woody

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vegetation, which ultimately
would be invading here. And that

17:32.533 --> 17:36.166 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
would be nice if people do have,
you know, the listeners,

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if they have
anything like this on their

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property, maybe they could take
care of it any way they can.

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Now that doesn't always mean
that it's possible to burn

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your landscape, but to take care
of it in whatever way you can

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just to keep it going. Well, I
think it's nice that we

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got families like the Smoak, who
are committed to the

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environment and the natural
community and that they even let

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people like us come
in and have such

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glorious days exploring.
They're really nice people.

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Thank you, John.
Thank you, Amanda.

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♪

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Thanks to Chase Smoak for
taking us down to

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his family's farm.

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And now, we're going down to
Bowman, where Blanche Weathers

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is going to show us
a pretty different way

18:28.833 --> 18:30.766 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
of cooking
South Carolina peanuts.

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♪

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We're in Bowman, South Carolina
visiting Blanche Weathers,

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the wife of our Commissioner of
Agriculture, Hugh Weathers.

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And we're gonna do something
agriculture related.

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And it's a lot of fun. It is and
tasty too. We're going

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to be frying peanuts today.
I never had a fried peanut.

18:49.433 --> 18:50.633 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5%
I've had boiled peanuts.

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It's just the best.
You're gonna love em.

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And it's sort of new for me too
but we'll show you

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what we're gonna do here. You
got a really nice fryer here.

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Yes. And I guess we're
gonna use peanut oil.

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It's essential that
you use peanut oil.

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And yes we have this
wonderful fryer.

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And it's
an electric fryer. Yes and

19:12.400 --> 19:16.500 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
we're just going to pour a
little bit more oil in here.

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And we got the
thermostat set at

19:19.300 --> 19:20.666 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5%
350 degrees. Okay.

19:20.766 --> 19:23.066 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
So we gonna let it come
up to that temperature.

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I think we're good there.

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And now can you re-use the oil?

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Yes, she really can. I would
say probably four, five times

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you can. You know it is

19:36.033 --> 19:38.766 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
expensive, the peanut oil.
But we have

19:38.866 --> 19:41.966 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
really exciting peanuts. Tell me
what kind of peanuts you use.

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Okay, these are raw shelled
peanuts

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and they're grown right here
in South Carolina, of course.

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People are always asking
'Well where do I get those raw'

19:52.866 --> 19:54.933 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
'shelled peanuts?' And you can
get them actually

19:55.033 --> 19:59.500 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
in the grocery store. But you
might need to ask your

19:59.600 --> 20:01.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100%
produce manager in your store

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to get them for you.
They can do that.

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And we are filming in

20:07.066 --> 20:11.033 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
late September which is when the
peanuts are being dug.

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This is the time you want to do
this. It's our Fall activity.

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I live in St Matthews and
drive back and forth

20:17.100 --> 20:19.766 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
and see the crops. And all of a
sudden we started

20:19.866 --> 20:22.066 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
noticing a new crop,
a number of years ago.

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What brought peanuts into

20:23.333 --> 20:25.000 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
the South Carolina agricultural
system?

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I think for the most part, it
was when the tobacco industry

20:28.700 --> 20:33.200 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
had the buyout. And a lot of
farmers over in the Pee Dee area

20:33.300 --> 20:37.066 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
were in need of a new crop. And
so the soil is perfect.

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The climate is good
and we grow some really

20:40.800 --> 20:43.333 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
great peanuts here in South
Carolina. How many acres do we

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have? 65 thousand acres
are grown here in South

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Carolina right now.
That's a lot for our farms.

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I was talking with one of
our Ag agents and they were

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telling me that this has been a
really helpful crop.

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You know farmers like to rotate.

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Right. And legumes and of
course peanuts are a legume.

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They add nitrogen to the soil.

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Yes. And then I think we were
talking about the fact that

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then when you plant the next
crop say maybe cotton you don't

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have quite as much nitrogen to
have to put into the soil

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because the legumes
help with that.

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And then also cotton which is
pretty important. Yes it is

21:19.133 --> 21:22.466 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
very subject to
distress

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from the root knot nematode.
Okay and I've been told that

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that doesn't, the peanut crop

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doesn't support that nematode,
they have the old nematode

21:31.766 --> 21:34.433 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
but that means that
population diminishes.

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If you plant cotton
the next year,

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you've got a few of those root
knot nematodes. So, it's a

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great rotation for us.
Yes.

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Well, I guess we're going to
wait a few minutes till

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this gets hot. Then we'll be
taking the next step.

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♪

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Blanche, this cool fryer has
a green light when it's

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pre-heated. That means we're at
350 degrees

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Yes. So we can
put the peanuts in.

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Yes. We're ready to go.
Ready to go.

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Safety's a factor so
we're going to be careful.

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It really is. Even though you
have this wonderful fryer,

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You just got to be careful.

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This is very hot oil
and you just really need

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to pay attention. Okay.

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So what we're gonna do is
this thing, sits up high

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and we're just going

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to put in a cup, two cups. Two
cups, about two cups and we

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put em in the fryer. Because we
don't want to overload it.

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We don't want too many in there.
But we want them to all kind

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of have their
own space, you know.

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Then, we're just going to
drop them in to the fryer.

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And they will actually

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need to fry for about six
minutes. And we're gonna watch

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em because they'll turn begin to
turn a golden brown.

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And then some of them, some of
them are already split and

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they're halves. The ones that
are whole. it's kind of nice to

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be able to watch them. They'll
start to pop a little bit.

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Oh! That's kind of (Pop) your
trigger. Whoa! Talk about

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popping. So, that's sort of one
of the things you look for,

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the color and that little split
in them, all about six

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minutes. And then,
then we're good to go.

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We've got our eye
on the clock.

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We'll keep our eye on the
peanuts too. That's right.

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♪

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Blanche, I think our timer says
that we're ready and the smell

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and color just looks perfect.
They are, they look just right.

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So, we're gonna lift them out
here. They look beautiful.

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Aren't they beautiful?
They're pretty.

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I think the color is just the
thing you want to look at.

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We're gonna let em drain
just a second,

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but remember that they do
continue to cook just a little

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bit after we take them out.

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And then I'm just gonna move
them right over here

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and shake them out
on this newsprint.

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So, then today I have some
Bull's Bay Sea Salt.

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Certified South Carolina.
Certified South Carolina.

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And this is our Carolina Flake.

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You can use any sea
salt of course.

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And you just want to, while
they're hot and the salt

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can kind of -

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dissolve a little bit. Dissolve
in the heat of the peanuts

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so it causes it
to dissolve and it

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sticks as they dry and
don't want to -

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The trick is -

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you can always add more.

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Okay, so we'll start with a
little bit like

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that and see how those taste
when they cool off just

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a little bit.

24:39.933 --> 24:43.300 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
If you were going to do
these in advance of

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a party or event,
How do you store them?

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A lot of times I store them in
Mason jars and just

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just tighten the lid down. And I
think they'll probably keep

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about six weeks. In the kitchen?
In the kitchen and

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they make a great Christmas
present. Tie a red ribbon around

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that little Mason jar and,
they're really fun to

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give away.

25:06.200 --> 25:08.333 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
I think these
days one of the fun things

25:08.433 --> 25:10.600 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
about certified South Carolina
and all those things, is

25:10.700 --> 25:11.933 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5%
when you go on trips

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most people - if you're like me,
I need to be getting rid of

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things instead of adding more
things to my house.

25:17.800 --> 25:19.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100%
That's right. That's right

25:19.200 --> 25:21.466 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
Everybody loves something from
South Carolina.

25:21.566 --> 25:24.800 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
Yes they do. Something from
home. We have so many new things

25:24.900 --> 25:26.966 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
here and this is one of
the favorites.

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♪

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Until you taste them, you won't
believe how delicious they are.

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And now we're going up to
Chester, where Joanna Angle

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has 68 acres dedicated to
environmental sustainability.

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♪

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We're visiting with
JoAnna Angle and Bill Altman

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at their home, Cedar Leaf Farm
near Chester.

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JoAnna, There has been
a lot of change

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on this property
since you came here.

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Tell me what some of the
things that you've done

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have encompassed. Well, the
thing that we're talk about

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especially today is this three
and a half acre field

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which, when I got
here, it was in millet and milo.

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And when we were raising
thoroughbreds on a small scale

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but it went into
Coastal Bermuda pasture.

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So I decided I wanted to do
something more for nature and we

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eradicated that Coastal
Bermuda,which was a challenge.

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And we put it into nine or ten
different plants that

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are good for bees and wasps,
all kinds of native creatures.

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Hummingbirds and the
goldfinches,

26:59.533 --> 27:00.966 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
especially
love to come here.

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Let's talk about
what individual species

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you have here
in the pollinator plot.

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The goal, Amanda, was to
get three early seasons,

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three mid and three late.

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So, we planted nine different
species to try to get that

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and I also threw in some
Bachelor Buttons.

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Which told us that first year
with none of the

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other perennials were
coming up that there

27:22.633 --> 27:24.866 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
was a sea of blue and
it was just beautiful.

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And it told us that we
seeded evenly. So that was good.

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Then, as things emerged, they
grew up where they were happy.

27:31.266 --> 27:34.966 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
For example, it took five years,
I believe, for the milkweed

27:35.066 --> 27:36.966 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5%
to present itself and now

27:37.066 --> 27:38.900 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
it's colonizing in different
parts of the farm.

27:39.000 --> 27:41.566 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
Not everywhere, but where it
gets what it wants.

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This spotted bee balm,
it's coming this way.

27:46.800 --> 27:51.533 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
We have tickseed.
We have a showy goldenrod,

27:51.633 --> 27:55.200 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
We have Maximillian Sunflower.
Eupatoriums?

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That's right.

27:56.266 --> 27:58.533 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
And then earlier in the
Summer, we had

27:58.633 --> 28:00.966 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
my favorite flower of all,
Black-eyed Susan's.

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[laughter]

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and purple coneflowers.

28:05.100 --> 28:08.266 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
So we've have had success with
everything except we planted an

28:08.366 --> 28:10.433 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
Illinois Bundleflower and it
hasn't shown up yet.

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But, it might.
It is in South Carolina.

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And what do you do
to maintain this plot?

28:15.433 --> 28:18.266 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
We get the tractor out and
mow it in late Winter.

28:18.366 --> 28:21.733 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
We try to control what weeds
and invasives that we have.

28:21.833 --> 28:25.600 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
And then you've got
a smaller area closer to the

28:25.700 --> 28:28.300 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
house that I think was primarily
for butterflies. It was.

28:28.400 --> 28:30.000 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
We call it the
Little House Garden

28:30.100 --> 28:32.266 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
That was my first
effort at butterfly gardening.

28:32.366 --> 28:34.800 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
And it is true, if you plant
it, they will come.

28:34.900 --> 28:38.133 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
Maybe it takes a year or two but
they come and they come back.

28:38.233 --> 28:40.133 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
How many species of butterflies
have been identified?

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I believe 26. Isn't that
wonderful?

28:42.400 --> 28:45.033 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
And in the area too,
you have water opportunities

28:45.133 --> 28:48.866 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
because we know that it's
important for our insects.

28:48.966 --> 28:51.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100%
We have numerous birdbaths.

28:51.566 --> 28:54.066 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
And then for butterflies, they
like to do what's called

28:54.166 --> 28:55.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100%
puddling, they like to puddle.

28:55.566 --> 28:57.600 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
And so they have their own
little drinking area,

28:57.700 --> 28:59.900 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
I call it a butterfly bar
because we have

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beer in it.
They seem to like that.

29:02.966 --> 29:05.600 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
And then, of course you have a
wonderful house here.

29:05.700 --> 29:07.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100%
It dates from the 1850s. 1856.

29:07.700 --> 29:10.433 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
I think you had a happy thing
happen to it recently.

29:10.533 --> 29:12.266 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5%
Oh, the
happiest day of my life.

29:12.366 --> 29:15.166 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
We had recently a gathering
to celebrate the house being

29:15.266 --> 29:18.433 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
listed on the national register
of historic places.

29:18.533 --> 29:21.033 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
We had three of the previous
four families,

29:21.133 --> 29:23.566 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
had members of those families
here including a

29:23.666 --> 29:25.800 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
lady that was born here on
Easter Sunday morning in 1930.

29:25.900 --> 29:28.300 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
But of course in olden
days people raise the windows

29:28.400 --> 29:29.833 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5%
and used wood to heat and

29:29.933 --> 29:31.933 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
y'all wanted to be more
sustainable with electricity.

29:32.033 --> 29:37.333 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
Yes, because old houses aren't
known for being tight.

29:37.433 --> 29:39.933 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5%
We have insulated a
lot but still, it gets

29:40.033 --> 29:43.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100%
drafty in the Fall and Winter.

29:43.500 --> 29:47.000 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
I'm not going to steal anybody's
thunder but we have a different

29:47.100 --> 29:49.033 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75%
way to heat and
cool our house now.

29:49.133 --> 29:52.433 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100%
And you also had another Coastal
Bermuda pasture and although

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that provided cover and it was a
wonderful place for

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rainwater infiltration
you wanted to put

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that into an entirely different
native type of species.

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What did do you do there?

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Native warm season grasses,
well, that was a

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very meticulous preparation.

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Seven steps to get rid of
what was there and when you

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sow the warm season grasses you

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have to have a very
smooth surface.

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Tiny seeds. Tiny, tiny.

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We did a number - we worked
with- both of these projects

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in cooperation with the
USDA NRCS.

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And they helped and guided us
through all of that.

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They've been good
partners for you?

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Oh, and partnerships -
if you're going to have

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anything like this,
partnerships are so

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important because no
one person can know it all.

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You also have mixed hardwoods
with some pines in them

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and you've even have gone in
and done some

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things to try and enhance the
wildlife support that they

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give. I think
the most important

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thing we did in our
woods was create corridors

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so wildlife can
move and travel.

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That was the biggie.

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It also gave us the opportunity
to go in and selectively thin

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trees that needed to come out

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so we have harvested a couple of
times but that's not our goal.

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Our goal is wildlife habitat,
aesthetics and educational

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opportunities and
we try to create

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a teaching forest.

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You you said that your father
influenced you this way.

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Let's talk a little bit
about that. He did.

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The drive that is
behind all of this.

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My daddy operated
under the motto

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that you do what
you can with

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what you have, where you
are, for as long as you can.

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So, it doesn't matter if you
have three acres or 300 acres

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or if you've got
a lot in town.

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Everybody has an opportunity
to show stewardship,

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and plant things that are
beneficial to wildlife.

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If people who are
listening to you are inspired,

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as I hope they will be and

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think, "Well, gosh, I may not
have 65 acres but I do have

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a zeal to enhance wildlife

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opportunities in my
little plot of the world."

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How could they get
in touch with you?

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They could email me at
jangle@truvista.net

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And I can tell you, the
other wonderful resource

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right here is our
land grant university.

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I have become a
huge Clemson fan.

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I grew up adjacent to the campus
of Virginia Tech but I have come

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to embrace Clemson
and they have been

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very supportive. They have
wonderful publications.

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I think it takes a team
and you are certainly

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part of the
educational team

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that's working to
make South Carolina

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a more sustainable and
habitat friendly place.

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Thank you for letting us visit.
Thank you for coming.

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♪

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JoAnna's husband, Bill Altman
keeps us updated on the work

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that they're doing there.
It's still going strong.

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Now, wait to learn about the
South Carolina heifer project.

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where two twins show us how to
get cows to move

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the way they're supposed to.

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♪

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The South Carolina Dairy Heifer
Project gives youths from non

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dairy backgrounds a truly hands
on experience raising a

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dairy heifer. For eighteen
months kids care for and

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train their cow and participate
in juried events that

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give them experience in
public speaking,

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deportment and critical
analysis. Not only does

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this program provide
quality dairy cows

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to add to established herds
but encourages participants to

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consider careers in the
dairy industry. We've been

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following two sisters
Madelyn and Logan Bolin

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in their journey. Our
first stop was at the

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Clemson Spring Dairy
weekend at the T Ed.

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Garrison Arena where the
girls received their calves.

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From there we visited
Madelyn and Logan at their

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home in Clover to learn
how they had cared for

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their animals and how
hard it is to get a cow

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to walk where you
want it to.

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Madelyn and Logan, y'all
are second generation

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heifer project people. And
tell me about your first

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experience going and
getting your heifer.

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Well, we're really, really
excited.

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Because my brothers and my mom
had did the heifer project

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and so then when
I met my heifer it was

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just so like happy to
have my own heifer. And not

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to have to see my brother's
heifer so I could just have my

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own and say it was it was my
own. It was really nice and

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y'all were pretty young when you
got your first animal I believe.

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Yes we were four years old.
That's unusual. Yes. But

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you've grown up with
heifers around you. That made a

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difference here.
And what is the day to day

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operation of having a cow?
What is like what's your

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day like? The interaction
you have with

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a cow. So we have to
feed them and make sure

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they have water. And make
sure they, there are not a lot

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of flies on them. So they
don't get sick or nothing.

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And then we always just
walk them and make sure

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they're not feeling sick
or anything. Make sure they're

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healthy. Just so to make
sure they're feeling

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their self. Okay so we
have to check up on them and

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make sure they're okay.
And y'all make sure that

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they're clean too. Do they
like to be washed off and

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cleaned? I think it cools them
down. Especially during the

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summer, it makes them feel
cooler and relieved to not

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be so sweaty and hot
and everything. Things

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that you or judged on are
two fold, I think. One

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involves the cow, how
the cow looks and one involves

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about how you show the
cow. Can you talk a

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little bit about that? Yes,
so there's certain

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classes that you can do.
So, showmanship is about

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how you present your
animal to the judge. And

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so you want to be, you want
to have like good posture and

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you want be, you want
him to tell that

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you've been working with
your heifer for awhile,

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cause you want them to
kind of listen to you. And

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you two will work very
good together. And then

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there's confirmation
classes, which is

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her class to shine. And so
you want to make her look

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the best that she can. And it's
judged on her dairy character

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and how deep she is.
and her

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correctness of her feet and
legs. And how straight she

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is over her back. And just an
overall very good heifer.

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Do you feel
like your confidence

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level in almost any
situation, not just in a

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barn, has developed and
strengthened through this?

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Yes ma'am. Just because for
judging you have to say reasons

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So you have to talk to the
judge. So this really you have

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to have a lot of confidence
because you have to speak

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up so you can understand what
you're saying and so you can

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be clear about it. So the
clearer you are, the more

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able we are to win.

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I think your next big event is
going to be in Columbia, which

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is going to be the State Fair.
And is that the culmination of a

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lot of this work? Yes ma'am.
It's like where it all comes

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together into that last
final piece where we get

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to spend a lot of time
with our friends and

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cousins and like a lot of
people from different

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counties and stuff that are
in South Carolina. So it's

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really nice getting to see
everyone and getting to know

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their cows and getting to
see everybody, a barn full

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of cows. And so it's where
we everyone comes

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together and we'll show
against each other in a

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couple classes usually.

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We just have fun
at that show.

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(man auctioning cow)

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One thing I was
wondering about is,

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you've had such a close
relationship with these cows,

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what's it like when
you are taking them

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for the last time and
because part of the

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program is that these
cows are going to go back

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into the dairy herd. Well,
it's kind of sad but it's

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also kind of happy at the
same time because you get to

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get a new cow. So you get to
experience someone else.

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Because if you don't like
your cow then you're gonna be

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really happy to get
rid of her.

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And you have two cows
at the same time.

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That's kind of interesting.
Explain that to us.

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So you'll get a cow and
you'll raise it.

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And then the following year
you'll get another calf.

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And then that show season at the
end you'll sell the heifer

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that you've had for eighteen
months. Okay.

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And you'll say goodbye? Yes.

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But then you'll pack up and come
home. Yes. And still the process

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just keeps on going, doesn't it?
Yes ma'am.

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♪

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Those little girls were a lot
better at moving cows around

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than I was. I'm glad they
were doing it.

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Let's go to Laurens where
Reed Edwards is exploring

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new ways of finding forage
for his horses.

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I'm in
Laurens, South Carolina

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at FoxPipe Farm. I'm speaking
with Reed Edwards.

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Reed, you have a
horse farm here and you want

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to have the best quality
pastures for your horses

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and then you
also have hay production

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as well. Let's talk about what's
growing in the pastures

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and how you manage to keep it

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growing vigorously
for the horses.

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Okay. What I'm trying to do,
Amanda, is to have something

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green and growing all
the time for my horses,

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and horse pastures are
notorious for horses overgrazing

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an area, eating it down to where
there's almost nothing

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and then leaving tall,
over mature forage elsewhere.

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So, I am using a
strip grazing concept.

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Only give the horses a small
amount of ground at any time.

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They're on that strip of grass
for one, two, three days.

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My target is two days. You put a
lot of animals on that area,

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graze the whole thing down and
then move them onto another area

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and
you let that strip

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have time to grow back. So you
get a uniform cutting,

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You do. Yes.

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So, you bring it down to four,
five, six inches.

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So you still
have leaf on the plant.

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because the leaf is the
solar panel that

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lets the plant really come back
quickly.

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So they haven't scalped the
pasture.

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How do you move them
and fence them in?

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There is an exterior fence
that is electric wire.

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I use a single strand of poly
wire running across the field

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with a step-in post, so a few
minutes

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every day you run
a new strip of wire.

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I will move my water trough.

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A lot of times I use the
water to move the animals

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because there's
still forage in the

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strip where they are so they're
not dying to leave.

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There's still food there.

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But you might, particularly
in the Summer,

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move the water trough
ahead of time and then they get

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a little thirsty so
then they look for water

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and they'll move
following the water.

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So you don't necessarily have
to go in and take each horse and

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put a lead on him and move him
over. No, typically you're just

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pulling back the last 20 feet of
fence opening of the gap,

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and the horses
will go right in. And they are

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pretty well behaved. That's all
you need to keep them separated?

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Yes, the electric is a
very effective -

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you do have to keep the power
on it all the time

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because they can walk right
under it otherwise.

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No problems
keeping them in otherwise. What

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are the mixtures or blends
that you have in the pastures?

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So, I've got a mixture of
warm season and cool season

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grasses: Bermuda and fescue. The
problem with fescue is we you

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have a toxic tall fescue in
this part of the world

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that survives well
because of the fungus that

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lives inside the fescue plant.

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That's the endophyte problem
they talk about? It is.

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The toxic endophyte problem.
It gives - good properties in

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surviving our hot summers
because fescue is a cool season

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plant. It is also toxic however,
to our livestock that eat that.

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Estimates are between a billion
and two billion dollars per year

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in the south to
livestock operations.

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So the fungus that's protecting
the plant unfortunately

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produces compounds that
are harmful to the animal.

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Yes, ma'am.

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How are you getting around that?

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I am transitioning
my farm over to a

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novel endophyte tall fescue.
There are fescues

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that have no endophyte and

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they have no problems for the
grazing livestock.

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But they don't
persist very well

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because the endophyte does give
protection to the plant.

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There are novel endophytes
so they have removed

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the endophyte or
fungus and put in a

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different fungus that gives the
plant the beneficial properties

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in survival but not the toxic
properties

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to the animal.
And then, what are the

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other grasses and
seeds that you have?

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I also have an annual
field that is a

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mixture - about a 10
way mixture of a -

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lot of times folks call it a
cover crop now.

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So, one or two grasses, two or

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three legumes and also some
brassicas in there.

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So for my winter mix
in the winter field,

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there is oats and wheat,
ryegrass and then

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crimson clover, winter peas,
turnips, radishes and rape.

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Horses like that. Horses
will eat all of that.

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They don't have
to just have grass.

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Not just grass and the
clovers and

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legumes are higher quality feed
so you get a

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little bit more
quality in there.

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It's also nice to be
able to go out and pick

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the greens and have
fresh greens for supper

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every night. Here we are
going into the fall and we're

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in Bermuda grass, but we've got
some other things

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that are coming up
in this pasture.

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Right, so this is primarily a
hayfield that has

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had alfalfa overseeded into it.

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So it's an
alfalfa-Bermuda mixture.

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That's actually what I'm sitting
on here on the hay bale.

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So this is baled for hay.

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It will be gray
some over the winter.

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This is primarily for hay.

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This is primarily for
hay. It's a grazing tolerant

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variety of alfalfa so I will
graze it some over the winter.

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When the weather is
too cool to make hay.

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Then you've got a new hay
that you're growing

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that's completely novel to me.

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Yes, and that is Sericea
Lespedeza.

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It's actually an old plant
that was very common in this

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area up until about
the 50's or the 60's.

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Sericea Lespedeza is a legume.
It's a warm season legume.

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It pulls its own nitrogen in
from the air and

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it also has the
wonderful property of being a

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de-wormer for sheep and goats.
Let's talk a little bit

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about why, now that we've
got a lot

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of people that are hobby
farmers or small farmers

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adding those to
their farm plan and they're

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running into problems with a
worm that's in the soil.

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The small worm that sheeps and
goats primarily -

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the barber
pole worm Haemonchus contortus

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is very resistant to our
chemical de-wormers and is

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very harmful, even deadly
to the sheep and the goats.

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So how does the Sericea play
into this game?

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It reduces the fecal egg counts
almost immediately

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on sheep and goats. It also
protects against toxidia.

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Sericea has condensed tannins
inside the forage

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and that is what has the action
against the worms.

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They don't know exact how it
works just yet,

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but it is very
effective against them.

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It's really easy to grow.
Is is. It will tolerate

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poor quality, low ph soil

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which we have a lot of in this
part of the world

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and where alfalfa, a lot of
times we don't have the

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fertility to grow. Sericea
will grow just about anywhere.

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In fact, they put it on the
sides of road banks

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when they have graded
a new road and they've

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taken all the top soil away
and yet Sericea will still grow

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there. I know that goats
will probably eat it

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up and enjoy it,
but the other animals,

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will they eat
it as well?

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They really do. It seems to
be, as far as hay usage,

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it is the preferred hay over
everything I have found.

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Even for your horses?

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Even for my horses. Sometimes
the horses will sometimes eat

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that before they'll
eat sweet feed.

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Very, very palatable hay.
Reed, I have enjoyed learning

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about someone who is staying
current with all the research

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and new ways of doing things to
keep a farm profitable

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and healthy for the animals. I
want to thank you

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for letting us
visit with you.

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If people want to learn
more about the processes

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here, what's the best way
to get in touch with you?

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By phone at 864-871-2575 or
by email at Reede@pikesfarm.com.

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Thank you for explaining all
this to me today.

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Sure thing.
Thanks for coming, Amanda.

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♪

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Reed is really gracious, sharing
his talents and knowledge.

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He has field days at his farm.
And I think some

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of his innovations are going to
make a difference to

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people down the road.

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We're now going to the
State Farmer's Market

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where there is really a brand
new way of farming

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going on. This is going
to be fascinating.

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Let's visit Vertical Roots.

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♪

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I'm speaking with Andrew Hare
who is a co founder

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and manager of Vertical
Roots a very unusual way

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of farming. And tell me
how you got involved in a

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different way of going
plants in South Carolina.

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absolutely well thanks
for having me. Vertical

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Roots started about four
years ago. Twenty fifteen

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a buddy and I wanted to
basically approach a

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different way of growing.
I had always been

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interested in growing
plants growing up, in

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animals in general. And we
decided to embark on the

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hydroponic way of growing
which is soil less. You're

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using water and nutrients
for us we use

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coconut husks to be able to grow
the plants. And so what

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kind of started off as a
hobby over the last

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couple years has
blossomed into a

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relationship with the
manufacturing company

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that we are now part of.
So we basically go from a

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blank shipping container
all the way through the

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process. So what Vertical
Roots does is farming

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operation to grow will be
focused on is leafy

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greens and lettuce here in
South Carolina. Well and it

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sounds like the idea of
using a shipping

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container when it's at
the end of its life of

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being sturdy
enough to send across the

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ocean and haul up and
down all that kind of stuff.

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Being sustainable, I think
has driven you.

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So tell me
how the shipping

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containers are used. And
then let's expand from

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there. Yeah the biggest
thing that we're trying

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to do is, be sustainable
in our practices. So the

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the shipping container
one allows us to mitigate

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risks, compartmentalize and
build to grow in an

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isolated controlled
environment. But the great

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thing with a shipping
container is to your point

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it's end of its life cycle,
why not up cycle another

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piece of our equipment
that no longer has a need

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so when they're going
back and forth overseas,

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and they get de-commissioned
to come back to port,

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we purchased
those from local companies

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and turn those
into grow environments.

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And I believe that the
whole business is all

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under one umbrella now.
The shipping containers

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are re-purposed all the
infrastructure that goes

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into them is part of the
whole company. Yes so we have

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two sister companies. So
Vertical Roots is a

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farming operation of just
production. Tiger Corner

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Farms is our
manufacturing arm. So they

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literally take that blank
shipping container and

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outfit it with the air
conditioning, the plumbing, the

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lights, everything you
need to be able to grow a plant.

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And then we also have a
technology company, Boxcar

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Central, that handles all
of our software,

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automation, we're able to
pick up our phone and

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make controls and changes
to the farm itself

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through a cloud based
system that we also

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operate. Well, we're
sitting here with the

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beautiful array of leafy
greens. Is that the

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product that y'all are now
focusing on? Yes ma'am.

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That's exactly we're
focusing on. It's leafy

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greens is a nice supplement
compliment to the

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southeast traditionally
grown in just two states

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in the west coast. It's
trucked over two thousand

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miles to get to us. So for
us we are able to find

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something that's
conducive to the

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environment we grow in,
complimenting traditional

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agriculture in the
southeast. It's something

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that really just doesn't
do very well when it's

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hot and humid like it is
here in South Carolina.

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And so you actually start
with these little plugs

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and I'll hold one up. And
you say this is mostly

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coconuts bark. Yes. Coconut bark
because a number of

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things that go into that.
But we chose that. It grows

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plants well for us. Yes.
But it's able to be

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composted. It can be
eaten by livestock if we

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donate to a farm,
maybe some pigs or such

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that want to be able to enjoy
some of the leftover

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greens and roots there will be
able to eat that

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coconut as well. So you start by
actually seeding into

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that by hand - your farmers.
Yes.

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Our farmers do all of the
seeding, the transplanting

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and the harvesting and again
your software program is

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introducing the correct
stream of nutrients

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depending on which
lettuce wants what. Some want

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a little more of one
thing, a little less of

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another. Is that correct? Yeah
everything you could

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think of, we can control, CO
two, humidity, nutrients,

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water temperature, PH, the
list goes on. Our software

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controls all of those
functions. And it's pretty much

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hands off. This is an
extremely clean crop. It

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is. We don't have to use any
foliar sprays. So there's

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no pesticides or
insecticides you're gonna

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find on the greens. So
again for the consumer,

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it's something that's
very important to us that they

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have a fresh clean
product that we know when

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they're eating that it's
gonna be a healthy option

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for them. Well, in my garden at
home I've had to water a

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lot because it's been so
dry lately.

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I believe that your water
use is much smaller than

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one might expect.
Absolutely, so because

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it's a closed loop
re-circulating system it's

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about ninety five ninety
seven percent more

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efficient than what you
would do traditionally. So

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to give an example, 34
hundred of these

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plants will grow in a
container at any given time.

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And they may consume
about ten gallons of

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water into the entire
crop in just one day.

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So if you compare that to
what you do outdoors, it's

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night and day difference
of what we're consuming

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for water and nutrients.
When they're ready

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how do you harvest
and how do you prepare

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them to send to the
market? Yes so the team

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just like they do with the
seeding and transplanting,

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we have the team that goes
in there and harvests.

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They do the roots attached to
that so the head is

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actually coming out of
the system still alive,

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which of course helps
with the freshness and

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quality of the plants.
It's not going to

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continue to grow
necessarily but it is

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still sustaining itself
in a lot fresher than

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having to cut that off. So
the team will go in there

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with their carts and just
harvest all those plants

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into bins and they go
into basically a packing

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room that's brought down
to fifty degrees in

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temperature, that's got a
cold storage attached to

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it. So the plant is then
being cared for as it

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goes through the
production line and it

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can go to a restaurant. It
can be going to a grocery

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store. So depending on
where it's going to will

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dictate how it's gonna be
packaged when it's in that

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kind of cold room
environment. And at each

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phase, hygiene is very
important? Yes. Every

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decision that our company
makes whether it's

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technology, manufacturing
or us growing it is

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with food safety in mind.
Everyone's very aware

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that just one corner
being cut can mean the

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difference of someone
being sick and not

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to being able to properly
utilize our product the

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way that we want it to be.
So gloves, washed hands, bio

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security is what we call
it. Not allowing people to

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come in without going
through a certain

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protocol into the farm
system itself are all

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things that we take very
seriously. And also I

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believe there's a very
systematic system of

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cleaning after each
harvest. Yes so we make

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sure after all those
plants are harvested, the

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team comes through there,
rinses out all the root

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debris or anything that's
kinda left over from that

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harvest and then the farm
goes through a sanitation

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process, where it's going
to be basically scrubbed

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down and cleaned, then
sanitized, the water gets

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tested and then we
transplant new plants into

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that so once all those
tasks and completed. And

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again with y'all's
emphasis, I believe all

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the products used are
ones that are considered to be

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sustainable and not
particularly harsh? Right.

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So while we're not
organic certified. We're organic

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in practice. We use
listed ingredients. Again

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staying away from those
really harsh chemicals

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and pesticides, reusing
things like alprocide

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that you're able to get
the cleaning that you

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need to get done out of
it without any over

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lasting or long lasting
residue that's going to

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be left behind with some other
chemicals. So I could go

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to the store and found
this and enjoy it at home

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in my salads. What about
restaurants? Do you have a

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different way of packing
for them? Yes so the heads

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are gonna go, roots attached
into a case that the

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restaurants are gonna be
able to pick more of a variety

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of different products we
offer them. We work with

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really everything in the
Low country to the

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Midlands, from your fast
casual places like a

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salad bar to your fine
dining restaurants that

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are really taking
our lettuce and making a

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masterpiece out of it. And
here at the farmer's

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market, I believe you're
working in cooperation

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with one of our well, well
established fruit and

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vegetable suppliers. Yes.
So we're fortunate to be

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in the farmers market
here in Columbia. So that

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allows us to be able to
work with the

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distributors, Senn
Brothers right next door

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to us, we're able to bring
our truck just a hundred

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yards down the street
and pack, unload our

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packages right into their
facility and out they go

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to our different
customers. Well Andrew

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this has just been
fascinating and I can't

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wait to share your story with
other people around the state.

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Well, thank you. I really
appreciate you having me.

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Imagine salad greens that don't
have sand blown all over them.

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You don't have to use your
spinning bowl, nearly as

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much as you do. And the carbon
footprint is so much less

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because they're grown right here
in South Carolina.

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And they don't have to be
shipped across the country.

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We really wish them great
success with this new innovation

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that they are doing.

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And we want to thank you so
much for joining us tonight.

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We love knowing that you're out
there. Please write us and

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call us. Tell us how you think

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we're doing with this new way of
coming to visit with you.

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We're trying and every Tuesday
night. If you'll cut us on

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at 7 o clock, we'll have another
Making It Grow ready for you.

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Night, Night.

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♪

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Making it Grow is brought

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to you in part by the
South Carolina Department

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of Agriculture. Certified
South Carolina grown

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helps consumers identify
find and buy South

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Carolina products. McLeod
Farms in McBee

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South Carolina. This
family farm offers

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seasonal produce
including over 22

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varieties of peaches.
Additional funding

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provided by International
Paper and the South

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Carolina Farm Bureau
Federation and Farm

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Bureau Insurance.
