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Making it Grow is brought to
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the South Carolina Department
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Certified South Carolina Grown
helps consumers

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identify, find, and buy South
Carolina products

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Mcleod Farms
in Mcbee, South Carolina.

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This family farm offers seasonal
produce including

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over 22 varieties of peaches,

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additional funding provided
by International Paper

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and the South Carolina
Farm Bureau Federation

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and Farm Bureau
Insurance.

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♪

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Well, good evening and
welcome to Making It Grow.

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We're so glad that you
can join us tonight.

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I'm Amanda McNulty, a
Clemson Extension agent

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and our show is a joint
collaboration between

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Clemson University and
SCETV and we have a really

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great group of experts
to help you

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with your gardening
questions tonight.

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So, you're going to learn
a lot and have a good time

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at the same time.

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Terasa Lott, wants to
start us out with

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something joyful and
happy, because, of course,

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a lot of times were asked
we're I'm trying to answer

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questions about problems.

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So, let's start out,
Terasa with some of those

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beautiful Garden of
The Week pictures.

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>> Let's do that.

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We have so many
to choose from.

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I'm glad that we just
use a random sampling,

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because I could never
select what would be

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considered the best.

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First, we will begin
with Monty Pittman,

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who shared what I think
is called shades of pink

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with some lovely day
lilies and Gerbera daisies.

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Marianne Brady shared sort
of wildlife area

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with an assortment of plants,
including a bird bath.

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Karen Harris-Sweetman has
a close up of a white

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flower Datura, sometimes
called devil's trumpet.

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Janet Marie showed us
some nice ripe tomatoes.

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I bet she's having a
nice tomato sandwich.

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Frederick Woodley was
lucky to capture a monarch

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visiting his lantana.

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And what I love about
this photo is the angle.

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It feels just like I am
part of the butterfly

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flying down.

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And wrapping up, we
have April Scott's 4-H. family,

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Maddie, Allie,
Mason and Jason.

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And she loves that
their 4-H experience

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has been making
and sharing lots of memories.

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Thanks to everyone
who shared photos

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through email and through
our Facebook page.

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I encourage everyone
to take a look.

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I think we had over
70 submissions.

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<Amanda> Whoa. And so, all
people have to do

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is go to Making It Grow's
Facebook page

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and see all the ones

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that were equally fun,
we just can't use them all.

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Isn't that right, Terasa?

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<Terasa> That is correct.

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>> Well, Terasa, you're
so good about people

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always sending messages
and writing out questions

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on Facebook and that I know
people write to you

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even through your email
with things in their garden.

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Have you got something
that we might start off with?

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<Terasa> I do we get questions
all sorts of ways,

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sometimes even
through text messages.

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Our first one today is
from Jared in Blythewood,

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who writes, "My cantaloupe
vines are wilting.

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"It's affecting
some of the vines,

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"but not all of them.
What could be the cause?"

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>> Well, I am so happy to
welcome to Making It Grow

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Rob Last, who's one of
our agents

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who helps commercial growers
down in the Barnwell

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and area's
surrounding counties.

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And Rob, I know that - I
think melon production

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is big in that area -

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- is this something
that you've run into?

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And do you think you
could help this person?

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>> That's absolutely
correct Amanda.

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We do produce a lot
of cantaloupes

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and watermelons commercially
in the campus I look after.

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There's a couple of things
that it really could be.

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The first one, which
I think is unlikely,

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it could be nematodes.

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And those would be
eating on the roots.

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And rather than just an
individual vine on the

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plant with a
nematode attack,

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you'd see the whole
plant start to wilt.

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So that would be every vine
that's on there.

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There are a couple
of insects that

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could also cause it,

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particularly cucumber beetle
and squash bug.

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Now, there's an easy way to tell
what's going on.

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If you take one of those
wilted vines

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and cut it at the stem

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and place the cut stem
into a clear glass of water,

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that way you'll see if
there's any bacterial

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ooze come out of
the stem and what will

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look like is clouds of
liquid coming out

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and it'll create a cloudy effect
within the water.

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That's indicative of cucurbit
bacterial wilt

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which this could well be.

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And cucurbit bacterial wilt is
spread by cucumber beetles.

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In fact, it's actually,
it's one of the bacterial

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diseases vective cucumber
beetle feeding activity.

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So, if you look closely
at that wilted vine,

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you may find,

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some evidence of some insect
feeding damage

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actually on that vine
before where it's starting

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to wilt.

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So that's a
really good test.

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>> If that happens, is there
anything you can do,

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or is that just it?

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>> The prevention for it
Amanda and that's a really

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great question is actually to
keep control of cucumber

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beetle numbers
within those vines.

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And the threshold that we use
commercially

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is five beetles per plant
and that's going to warrant

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treatment with
an insecticide.

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>> So if you have it

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is there anything you
can do at that point,

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or is the vine just on its
way out and it's too bad?

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>> You can certainly try
to prune out the wilting

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vines that may protect
the rest of the plant

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by removing the source
of infection.

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Just remember if you're
going to do that,

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that we need to sanitize
our pruners to make sure

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we don't risk spreading
that disease further around.

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>> Okay, so you can use alcohol
or a weak bleach solution

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or something like that?

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>> Absolutely. Absolutely.

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>> You've got on a beautiful
blue Clemson shirt.

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And I'm going to say I prefer
the alcohol route,

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because every time I get
around bleach I seem to

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get it on myself
as well as on my

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[laughs]
thing.

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So, a homeowner if they

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needed to treat the
cucumber beetles,

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I would imagine at our H.G.I.C.
factsheet page,

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they could
find information on how

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to go about that?

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>> Absolutely, there's
some amazing fact sheets

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within our home and garden
information center that

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are readily available.

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Yeah. And that will give you
some control options for

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a variety of pests
within cucurbits.

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>> Well, thank you and
we're so glad that we can

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look forward to having you
help - your helping those

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farmers down there,
because I do think that

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there's nothing better
than our wonderful

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South Carolina watermelons when
they start coming in.

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Thanks a lot for all the
help you're giving

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our farmers.

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>> My pleasure and
thank you Amanda.

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>> Terasa I was looking
at our Facebook page,

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Making It Grow's
Facebook page.

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And I saw that there's
a survey

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that's posted there.

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And I wondered if you
could tell me a little

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more about it, please.

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>> I would be happy to.

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That link is to what we would
call a needs assessment.

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So, rather than us taking
viewer questions,

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we're sort of posing the
question back to viewers.

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What is it that
you want to know?

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Here with us tonight
is Cory Tanner,

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who is Program Team Director
for our horticulture team

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at Clemson Extension.

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Cory, could you share a
little bit more

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about the nature of that
needs assessment?

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>> Sure. Thank you,
Terasa and Amanda.

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Happy to be here with
you this evening.

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Yeah, we just want
feedback from home gardeners

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of any skill level,

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from the novice
beginning gardener,

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all the way to the most
advanced gardeners out there.

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We'd like to know in Extension
how we can best serve you.

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What are the things that
you most need

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and what are the ways
that you'd like

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to receive gardening education
and information?

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You know, COVID through us
a lot of curve balls

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and so we had to shift our
Extension programming

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for a year plus
to a mostly online,

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virtual environment.

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And we saw great benefits
of that

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and we would like to know
from our viewers

08:51.766 --> 08:54.033 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
and our gardeners
in South Carolina,

08:54.133 --> 08:56.900 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
how much of that you'd
like to see continue

08:57.000 --> 09:00.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
as far as online virtual
opportunities,

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versus in person
traditional programming options?

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And so this survey is one
way to capture some

09:06.166 --> 09:07.266 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65%
of that information,

09:07.366 --> 09:09.466 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5%
as well as just what gardening
topics

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you're most interested in
learning more about.

09:11.766 --> 09:13.200 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
So, we'd really
appreciate it.

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The survey takes less than
ten minutes to complete.

09:16.033 --> 09:18.566 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
You can find it in a
number of different locations,

09:18.666 --> 09:21.000 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5%
the Clemson
Extension horticulture page

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is linked to the
banner on that page,

09:24.333 --> 09:26.733 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
as well as multiple
Facebook pages

09:26.833 --> 09:28.733 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
for Clemson Extension
and Making It Grow.

09:28.833 --> 09:31.100 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
And there's a blog post
on the Home

09:31.200 --> 09:33.633 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
and Garden Information Center
website, as well.

09:33.733 --> 09:36.466 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
So any of those routes
will get you to that page

09:36.566 --> 09:38.666 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
and we'd like to take
as many responses

09:38.766 --> 09:40.300 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
as possible, because again

09:40.400 --> 09:42.900 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
our job is to serve the
needs of the people

09:43.000 --> 09:45.666 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
of South Carolina and we only
know what those needs are

09:45.766 --> 09:46.800 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65%
when people tell us.

09:46.900 --> 09:49.266 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
So, I would really like
for people to complete

09:49.366 --> 09:51.900 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
that survey and let us
know how we can serve you.

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>> Cory, I think that

09:55.800 --> 09:57.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
although it was difficult
for all of us to

09:57.933 --> 09:59.700 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
to have to change gears,

09:59.800 --> 10:03.633 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80%
because we're always comfortable
in our regular pair of shoes,

10:03.733 --> 10:07.600 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
I think almost everyone
at Clemson

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in the Extension program has
found that we stretched

10:10.900 --> 10:12.966 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
and learned new ways
of reaching people.

10:13.066 --> 10:15.533 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
It's been a hard road -

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I think in the long run,
it's been beneficial,

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don't you?

10:20.033 --> 10:22.100 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5%
>> Oh, yes. Absolutely Amanda.

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It was difficult, but our
team and our colleagues

10:27.800 --> 10:30.233 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
across Extension
were up to the task,

10:30.333 --> 10:32.166 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
and we made some things
happen

10:32.266 --> 10:35.166 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
and we reached new audiences
as a result of that.

10:35.266 --> 10:37.633 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
So, we were able to
expand the reach

10:37.733 --> 10:40.100 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
of Extension programs
virtually,

10:40.200 --> 10:42.500 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
even what we did here
on Making It Grow,

10:42.600 --> 10:45.200 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
making this shift and
the way the show is

10:45.300 --> 10:50.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
produced and disseminated
has made a big difference

10:51.033 --> 10:52.166 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
in how we do business.

10:52.266 --> 10:54.966 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
And some of that will
stick and some things will

10:55.066 --> 10:57.666 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
go back to more normal,
but right now we really

10:57.766 --> 11:00.633 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
just would like to know
how people would like

11:00.733 --> 11:03.500 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
to interact with us and
how we can best serve

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the needs of South Carolina.

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>> You'll never know
if you don't ask.

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So, I think this
is a great idea.

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Thanks so much.

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>> Thank you

11:11.533 --> 11:14.633 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
>> We always appreciate it
when Cory Tanner can come

11:14.733 --> 11:16.966 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and help us he's got a lot
of responsibilities

11:17.066 --> 11:19.500 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
on his shoulders as the head
of the hort team.

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It's kind of like Terasa
trying to herd all those

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cats, the Master Gardener
Program Coordinator is

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and I'm afraid the hort team

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- it's a little like herding
cats there sometimes too.

11:30.333 --> 11:33.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
It is always so rewarding
to find someone in

11:33.433 --> 11:35.833 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5%
agriculture who

11:35.933 --> 11:37.900 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
finds a situation where
they can do something

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to help their community.

11:39.466 --> 11:42.900 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
And we met the
Roberts family up in Anderson

11:43.000 --> 11:46.333 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
and they have
turned a little interest

11:46.433 --> 11:48.533 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
in sunflowers that started
in their backyard

11:48.633 --> 11:53.000 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
into a tremendously wonderful
program that brings beauty

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and to certain parts
of the county

11:56.533 --> 11:59.466 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
and also supports some
wonderful activities

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♪

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♪

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I'm outside of Anderson,
South Carolina

12:20.766 --> 12:23.133 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5%
speaking with Danielle Roberts,
who's the proprietor

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of Sol Farms and boy what a
field of sunflowers we have.

12:28.200 --> 12:29.466 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
>>Thank you. Thank you.

12:29.566 --> 12:31.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
We have about five acres,
right here.

12:31.866 --> 12:34.500 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5%
>> And this started out in the
backyard in town,

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I think.
>> It did.

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>> Tell us a little
about your story.

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>> Well, we just had
a little family

12:39.266 --> 12:42.833 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5%
backyard garden
and we grew

12:42.933 --> 12:45.100 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70%
lots of things, tomatoes
and cucumbers, but we also

12:45.200 --> 12:48.266 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
always wound up with a
nice big long row

12:48.366 --> 12:50.500 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
of sunflowers, just
for the fun of it,

12:50.600 --> 12:53.033 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
And it just sort of was
maybe the beginning

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of something much larger.

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>> Well, originally I
think your daughter's used

12:56.966 --> 12:59.666 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
that as a way to help
fund going to college

12:59.766 --> 13:01.700 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
and things like that.
Tell us how they started

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getting these flowers
to the market.

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>> Okay well they did.

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We built them a little garden
of their own

13:08.600 --> 13:11.300 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and we helped them learn to
grow the sunflowers

13:11.400 --> 13:14.166 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and they would harvest them
and take them,

13:14.266 --> 13:16.166 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75%
to our local farmers market,

13:16.266 --> 13:18.966 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
and they got
a little pocket change,

13:19.066 --> 13:21.100 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
had a little money to take
with them to college

13:21.200 --> 13:25.000 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
and learned a valuable
lesson in hard work

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and it turned into something
that we all loved.

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<Amanda> But those girls
have gone on to careers,

13:30.333 --> 13:32.766 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
and you had an interest

13:32.866 --> 13:35.600 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
in local organizations
that were

13:35.700 --> 13:38.733 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
supporting families
and children issues,

13:38.833 --> 13:40.900 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
and I believe your
husband was on

13:41.000 --> 13:43.600 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
a foundation that you
thought maybe

13:43.700 --> 13:44.900 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
you could help support.

13:45.000 --> 13:46.166 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60%
>>> That's right.

13:46.266 --> 13:48.833 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
We've always been very
involved in the community

13:48.933 --> 13:50.900 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
and we love where we live.

13:51.000 --> 13:54.300 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
So we wanted to do
something to sort of give back.

13:54.400 --> 13:57.033 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
We like it here.
We raised our children here.

13:57.133 --> 14:00.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
And it was just a thought
that maybe we could

14:00.266 --> 14:03.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
do something on a larger
scale to return

14:03.333 --> 14:05.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
a little bit of that back
to our community,

14:05.533 --> 14:08.333 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and you're right my husband
does sit on the board

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of the Foothills
Community Foundation,

14:10.600 --> 14:14.966 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70%
and it was a great place
for us to put the money,

14:15.066 --> 14:16.833 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65%
so that it can go out
into this community

14:16.933 --> 14:19.100 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65%
and do the most good
for the most number of people.

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<Amanda> And that supports three
counties, I believe.

14:21.400 --> 14:23.066 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
<Danielle> That's right
Anderson, Oconee

14:23.166 --> 14:24.366 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5%
and Pickens County.

14:24.466 --> 14:26.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
<Amanda> And the goal of
Community Foundations is

14:26.666 --> 14:27.900 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
to encourage people to

14:28.000 --> 14:30.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
support local charities,
that way you can really

14:30.900 --> 14:32.666 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
see where the effect
is going to be made.

14:32.766 --> 14:35.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
>> That's right. >> Well,
how do you market these flowers,

14:35.466 --> 14:36.933 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
or take donations
for them?

14:37.033 --> 14:39.233 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
>> Okay. Well, we have
a Facebook page,

14:39.333 --> 14:41.433 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
Sol Flowers of Anderson

14:41.533 --> 14:44.033 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
and we did most of the
marketing

14:44.133 --> 14:45.100 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
just through Facebook.

14:45.200 --> 14:47.333 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
We don't do a lot
of advertising,

14:47.433 --> 14:50.066 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
very little advertising
of any other kind,

14:50.166 --> 14:53.266 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5%
but the Facebook page opened us
up to all kinds

14:53.366 --> 14:54.533 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55%
of publicity,

14:54.633 --> 14:58.033 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
so not only were we
reaching a number of people

14:58.133 --> 15:01.766 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
with our Facebook page,
we were also gaining some

15:01.866 --> 15:06.000 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
interest from
newspapers and news stations

15:06.100 --> 15:07.866 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
who would come
out here and do things,

15:07.966 --> 15:10.100 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
and it really helped
the word spread,

15:10.200 --> 15:14.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
and again just with very
little paid advertising.

15:14.100 --> 15:16.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
>> I believe two weekends
of the year people are

15:16.500 --> 15:17.900 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
invited to come out here.

15:18.000 --> 15:20.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
>> That's right. We plant
the seed late in April,

15:21.000 --> 15:23.733 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5%
because we know that's how long
it will take them to come in,

15:23.833 --> 15:25.200 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
right around
the fourth of July,

15:25.300 --> 15:27.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
which is the week we like
to have the event out here.

15:27.500 --> 15:29.866 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
We have people come out
on the weekend before

15:29.966 --> 15:31.166 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
and the weekend after.

15:31.266 --> 15:33.400 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
They're invited to come
out and take pictures

15:33.500 --> 15:35.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
stroll through the fields
and just enjoy all these

15:35.733 --> 15:37.000 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65%
gorgeous sunflowers.

15:37.100 --> 15:38.833 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
<Amanda> And you have
people helping you

15:38.933 --> 15:42.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
cut the flowers, and at a
station they are

15:42.466 --> 15:45.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
ready for people to trade
for a donation,

15:45.133 --> 15:46.266 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5%
to the foundation.

15:46.366 --> 15:47.500 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
<Danielle> That's right.

15:47.600 --> 15:49.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
We'll cut the flowers and
bring them up out of the field,

15:49.666 --> 15:52.100 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
and then they'll be
cleaned up real nice

15:52.200 --> 15:54.500 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and bundled up and prepared
for people to take them home.

15:54.600 --> 15:57.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80%
>> How much have y'all been able
to give to the foundation?

15:57.366 --> 15:59.900 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
>> Well, to date,
and we don't know what this

16:00.000 --> 16:03.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
year's proceeds are yet,
but in the prior three years

16:03.266 --> 16:04.700 align:left position:45%,start line:83% size:45%
that
we've done this,

16:04.800 --> 16:07.033 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
we've raised over 30
thousand dollars.

16:07.133 --> 16:09.233 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
>> And this is because
people allow you to use

16:09.333 --> 16:10.533 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65%
the land at no cost?

16:10.633 --> 16:13.666 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
Someone helps you with the
equipment, the planting?

16:13.766 --> 16:15.133 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
>> That's right.
We have a,

16:15.233 --> 16:18.466 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
family that allows us to come
out here and use their land,

16:18.566 --> 16:21.066 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5%
and we have
some great farmers

16:21.166 --> 16:23.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
that come out and help us
with the planting

16:23.866 --> 16:25.700 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
and with their equipment,

16:25.800 --> 16:28.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
and get the field looking
real nice for us.

16:28.233 --> 16:31.766 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
>> Now, this is
not a florist type sunflower

16:31.866 --> 16:33.900 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
and there are some advantages
to that for you.

16:34.000 --> 16:35.200 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
>> That's right, Amanda.

16:35.300 --> 16:37.000 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
These are production
sunflowers,

16:37.100 --> 16:39.133 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
and by production, I mean

16:39.233 --> 16:42.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
these are used typically
for sunflower oil.

16:43.066 --> 16:45.300 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
But the advantage to me
is that

16:45.400 --> 16:47.133 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
they are less expensive,

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and they're great
pollinators.

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<Amanda> The pollinators
out here are just phenomenal.

16:51.500 --> 16:52.733 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
It's so exciting
to see them.

16:52.833 --> 16:55.100 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
You see butterflies
and all kinds of bees

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and different things on them,
and then of course,

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one of the thing is that most
people think sunflowers

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follow the sun, but
because this is such

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a big strong sunflower,
tell me how it acts.

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>> Well, early on you may see a
little a little bit of weight

17:10.133 --> 17:11.933 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
>> twist and shout?
>> Yeah.

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- while the plants
are young and tender,

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but as they get more
and more established

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this particular variety is
going to all face to the east.

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>> And that's because they
have such a great big

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flower head full of seeds,

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they really have to have a
strong system to support that.

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>> That's right.
>> What do you do about - ?

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I don't see a irrigation.
What do you do about water?

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<Danielle> We just,
we depend on rain.

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And luckily we've had some
great rain this year.

17:35.000 --> 17:37.733 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
We had a nice amount
of rain right after we planted,

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and then a few more
smaller rains to come through.

17:40.800 --> 17:44.466 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
The rain has everything to do
with the height.

17:44.566 --> 17:47.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
The flowers look good no
matter how much water they get,

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but if we can get some good
rain, we can get nice height.

17:50.233 --> 17:51.600 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
<Amanda> I think people
like to come out

17:51.700 --> 17:53.133 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and take photographs, too.
Don't they?

17:53.233 --> 17:55.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
>> They do. We have lots
of people that come out

17:55.500 --> 17:57.866 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
to do family photographs.

17:57.966 --> 18:00.033 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
Moms bring their iPhones.

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We have professionals
that come out

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and do professional
photography out here.

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So, we see a lot of that.

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<Amanda> Danielle, if people
want to know more

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about you and what's your
family doing out here,

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what's the best way to
get that information?

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>> You can go to
our Facebook page,

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Sol Flowers of Anderson,
South Carolina

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and that's
S-O-L Flowers.

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Also you could go to the
foundation's website,

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which is Foothills Community
Foundation.org.

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>> Well, thank you for
what your family's doing

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to support good
causes in Anderson,

18:26.700 --> 18:28.133 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
Oconee and Pickens County.

18:28.233 --> 18:30.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
And thank you for sharing
your story with us today.

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>> You're welcome.
Thanks for coming out today.

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♪

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>> Well you can see what a
beautiful sight a field

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of sunflowers is and the
Roberts family has -

18:48.400 --> 18:50.833 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
an event planned,
a big weekend,

18:50.933 --> 18:53.066 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
or whatever day the
weather cooperates.

18:53.166 --> 18:55.533 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
So if you want to be a
part of that check their

18:55.633 --> 18:57.333 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
Facebook page and
Instagram account

18:57.433 --> 19:00.566 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
and you won't miss that fun
outdoor experience.

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Terasa, I bet you got
another question for us.

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Let's hear what it is.

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>> All right. Well, Nelson
in Chesterfield asks,

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"I'd really like
to grow hostas,

19:12.700 --> 19:15.233 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
"but never seem
to have any luck.

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"Do you have any advice?"

19:17.333 --> 19:19.200 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55%
<Amanda> Aha!

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Keith, it's so good
to have you here.

19:21.433 --> 19:24.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
Keith Burns, the Director
of Grounds at Historic Columbia.

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And I don't know how you
managed to keep all those

19:27.366 --> 19:30.133 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
beautiful properties
looking so good, Keith.

19:30.233 --> 19:32.400 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
But I've - and you have
everything

19:32.500 --> 19:33.833 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5%
from sun to shade.

19:33.933 --> 19:36.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
So, I bet you can help us
with some hosta ideas.

19:36.966 --> 19:41.300 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5%
>> Absolutely, if you - it
is true, that in general

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hostas are a
challenge for us,

19:43.466 --> 19:46.166 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5%
down here in the south, and

19:46.266 --> 19:47.800 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60%
one of the first
things to think about,

19:47.900 --> 19:50.800 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5%
even before you acquire
any hostas is the fact

19:50.900 --> 19:55.300 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70%
that there are some that
do better than others for us.

19:55.400 --> 19:58.666 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
And what's really
important to look for

19:58.766 --> 20:00.633 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
on a hosta, if
you're ordering it

20:00.733 --> 20:03.600 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
from maybe a website
or a catalog or even

20:03.700 --> 20:06.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
at the nursery is to look
and see if there's

20:07.033 --> 20:11.333 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
a hardiness zone
info on the tag.

20:11.433 --> 20:13.366 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
And really what you're
looking for is a hosta

20:13.466 --> 20:16.933 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
that at the very least,
lists being able

20:17.033 --> 20:19.166 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
to be grown in zone eight.

20:19.266 --> 20:21.266 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
So, that will
probably be the

20:21.366 --> 20:23.066 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
highest number on there.

20:23.166 --> 20:25.466 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
And even better if you can
find on that list

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being grown in zone nine.

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Now, that is a little
bit warmer than we are,

20:30.366 --> 20:32.833 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
but when you see something
can be grown in zone nine

20:32.933 --> 20:35.400 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
it usually can do a lot
better with our heat,

20:35.500 --> 20:38.400 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
a pretty good indicator.

20:38.500 --> 20:41.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
And there are a couple of
varieties that we grow that

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tend to do better for us.

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One of those is called
Abiqua Drinking gourd.

20:49.200 --> 20:51.000 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5%
That's a long name,

20:51.100 --> 20:54.066 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5%
but it's an
excellent plant.

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It's a larger hosta.

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It has these beautiful
powdery blue leaves

20:59.066 --> 21:01.633 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
with sort of a puckery
look to them,

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that cup, that make a really
sort of

21:04.700 --> 21:06.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
a large cup, that holds a
little bit of water

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when it rains

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and a really nice
sort of white bloom,

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as well.

21:13.533 --> 21:16.533 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
One of the other hostas
that is our favorite

21:16.633 --> 21:18.766 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
is called Paradise Island.

21:18.866 --> 21:20.433 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
And this one's got a
little different look.

21:20.533 --> 21:22.466 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
It's not as big
as the first one.

21:23.866 --> 21:25.866 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
Instead of having
very much dark green,

21:25.966 --> 21:28.100 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
it's more of a
chartreuse color,

21:28.200 --> 21:32.566 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
almost a yellow
with some red coloration

21:32.666 --> 21:33.900 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5%
on the petals,

21:34.000 --> 21:36.133 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
which is really very nice.

21:36.233 --> 21:38.033 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
>> Keith, let me say,
let me ask you,

21:38.133 --> 21:40.700 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
it sounds like these
would be good to group,

21:42.300 --> 21:44.666 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
and at least, I mean
you've got such a big garden,

21:44.766 --> 21:46.566 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5%
but even in a home garden.

21:46.666 --> 21:49.133 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
I mean just one by itself

21:49.233 --> 21:50.966 align:left position:40%,start line:83% size:50%
you'd get
a lot more bang if you,

21:51.066 --> 21:52.800 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
put three of them together,
wouldn't you?

21:52.900 --> 21:56.166 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5%
>> Yes, if you're planting them
in the ground,

21:56.266 --> 21:59.200 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
it gives you much more
of a dramatic effect

21:59.300 --> 22:01.833 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
to have masses and drips

22:01.933 --> 22:03.900 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5%
of hostas.

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There is the school of
thought and it does seem

22:06.000 --> 22:08.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
to work pretty well, that
if you're a good waterer,

22:09.000 --> 22:10.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
it's sometimes effective
to have hostas

22:11.000 --> 22:12.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
in containers or in what
some people

22:13.000 --> 22:14.266 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65%
like to call troughs.

22:14.366 --> 22:18.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80%
If you've got maybe a little bed
around a fountain,

22:18.533 --> 22:21.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
in your garden, which we
do have one of those

22:21.366 --> 22:24.033 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
at Hampton Preston, if you're
good about watering

22:24.133 --> 22:26.466 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
the containers in the troughs
are pretty good,

22:26.566 --> 22:28.000 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
because they actually
allow the plant to get

22:28.100 --> 22:30.133 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
just a bit cooler
in the winter,

22:30.233 --> 22:32.700 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
which actually
helps the hosta out.

22:32.800 --> 22:34.900 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
>> So Keith, even
though in the winter,

22:35.000 --> 22:36.333 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
you're not going
to see the hosta,

22:36.433 --> 22:38.566 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
because it's
going to die back.

22:38.666 --> 22:42.533 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
The root system will be
healthier and come through

22:42.633 --> 22:44.400 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60%
with less stress

22:44.500 --> 22:48.333 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
if it gets more cold,
which it would

22:48.433 --> 22:50.066 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70%
being in that container.

22:50.166 --> 22:53.166 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
>> Right, the hostas
really do expect

22:53.266 --> 22:55.266 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
if you could say that,
more cold than they

22:55.366 --> 22:57.033 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5%
generally get here.

22:57.133 --> 22:59.066 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
>> You said that you've
got them near a fountain.

22:59.166 --> 23:00.366 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
I think of fountains
as often,

23:00.466 --> 23:02.133 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5%
kind of being in a sunny spot,

23:02.233 --> 23:07.300 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75%
but a hosta wouldn't want to
have too much direct light,

23:07.400 --> 23:10.100 align:left position:40%,start line:83% size:50%
would it?
What do you recommend?

23:10.200 --> 23:12.166 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5%
>> They really,

23:12.266 --> 23:15.600 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
I don't recommend
any full sun,

23:15.700 --> 23:18.266 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
maybe 30 minutes
to an hour

23:18.366 --> 23:21.333 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
in the very early morning,
might be okay,

23:21.433 --> 23:22.666 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55%
<Amanda> Oh!

23:22.766 --> 23:24.566 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
>> because that's the
coolest time of day.

23:26.000 --> 23:27.333 align:left position:40%,start line:83% size:50%
It's very
important to know

23:27.433 --> 23:29.333 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
how the light works
in your garden

23:29.433 --> 23:31.266 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5%
at all times of day

23:31.366 --> 23:34.466 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
as during later in the day,
the light is much harsher

23:34.566 --> 23:37.100 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
on plants especially
in our summers.

23:37.200 --> 23:41.033 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
But for hostas in general,
what I really prefer is

23:41.133 --> 23:42.700 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
what I like to
call high shade,

23:42.800 --> 23:46.166 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
which is trees that
are very tall,

23:46.266 --> 23:50.133 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5%
and give you a
filtered light,

23:50.233 --> 23:51.500 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5%
but still very bright.

23:51.600 --> 23:53.400 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
It's kind of difficult
to achieve sometimes,

23:53.500 --> 23:56.200 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60%
but I like to use

23:56.300 --> 24:00.600 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
large pecan trees as
an example of the kind

24:00.700 --> 24:03.733 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
of light that's really
ideal for hostas.

24:03.833 --> 24:06.233 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
I do have some at
Hampton-Preston that are

24:06.333 --> 24:08.133 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65%
under Live Oak trees,

24:08.233 --> 24:09.400 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
which you wouldn't
think would work,

24:09.500 --> 24:11.433 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
cause they're so dark
and they're so thick,

24:11.533 --> 24:13.700 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5%
but really we've done a
lot of editing

24:13.800 --> 24:15.166 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55%
on the canopy
of the trees

24:15.266 --> 24:17.166 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
to give us much more
filtered light.

24:17.266 --> 24:21.100 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75%
>> Aha! And then as you say,

24:21.200 --> 24:23.666 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60%
if you have them
in containers,

24:25.166 --> 24:27.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70%
you can kind of play with
them until you find

24:27.366 --> 24:29.266 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
a place in your yard
where they seem

24:29.366 --> 24:31.166 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5%
to be the happiest,
if you're not quite sure

24:31.266 --> 24:32.566 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60%
about the light.

24:32.666 --> 24:35.466 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5%
>> Yeah. That's a great way
to do that

24:35.566 --> 24:37.000 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65%
and when you do them
in containers

24:37.100 --> 24:40.033 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5%
you have to
make sure they have

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good room for their roots.

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They're not one of those
plants that generally

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loves to be
tucked in tight.

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>> Are slugs a problem -
If you have me on the ground

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and they're coming
back every year,

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do you sometimes have to
worry about slugs

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as they're first emerging?

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>> I would say that we've
not had that issue here

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in Historic Columbia,
but it certainly could

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be an issue given your
conditions in your garden.

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One way to do that
to combat that would be again

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to make sure you have a
lot of vertical space there

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in your shade
because that will

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encourage air flow,

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which is going
to dry out

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your soil surface
or mulch surface

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or whatever you have,

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and sort of discourage
a lot of that activity,

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outside of that, there's
some other tricks I know

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that people use, like

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putting out a little bowl
of beer at night

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to let the slugs in.

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>> Okay.

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Well - And Keith my
last question is

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should you remove
the spent flower head

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so that it doesn't use
energy trying to make seeds?

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>> Yes, there's
not unless you're

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into hosta breeding,

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there's no real
reason to leave those

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flowers scapes up after
the flowers are finished.

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You're correct.

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It's just expending energy
on making those fruits

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and seeds,

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that's not very useful
for you in the garden.

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Taking those off is going
to encourage it as well,

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to divide
a little bit faster.

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>> Oh! Okay, so you can't
expect to multiply that

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they're going to
multiply eventually,

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and you can start with
one and after a couple

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of years have a couple -

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>> Right. Now, they're
slower than most,

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but they will divide out.

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<Amanda> Okay.
Thank you so much.

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>> Well, Terasa what's -
I know we've got a big,

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you've got a big list
of questions,

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and Keith did a good job
answering that one.

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What's the next one coming
to the top of the pile?

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>> Next up is Ginger
in Greenville.

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Ginger writes,
"I've noticed lots

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"of apple varieties available,
but they don't seem to be

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"available all at
the same time.

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"Why is that?"

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<Amanda> Well, Terasa,
we're lucky that Kerrie Roach

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who is our Extension
agent up in Oconee County,

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which is kind of apple
country if there is

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any apple country

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in South Carolina,
is with us tonight,

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Kerrie thank you so
much for joining us.

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And can you help us
understand what the -

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why some apples
are coming in,

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and some are going out
and when the fresh apples

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for the brand new year start
coming in because I know that

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they do store
apples, don't they?

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>> Yeah.

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So, you go to the grocery
store and you can get

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apples anytime of the year,
Right. >> Yeah.

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>> You don't ever know
what's going to be the one

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you like, the one that's
good or what not,

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but so growers
and grocery stores

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they store those apples
in cold storage

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and many of the varieties
do really well with that.

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Some get a little bit mealy

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and don't necessarily last
as long in cold storage,

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but for the most part, the
varieties that you'll see

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now in the store

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were actually
from last year.

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We are just beginning
to start our apple season

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in the southernmost part
of the United States,

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including South Carolina,
in the end of July,

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and so we'll go from July
all the way

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through October,

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even a little bit
into November

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depending on the varieties.

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So, we have a pretty
long season when it

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comes to apples

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<Amanda> And so, I
guess the stores

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as you say some do better
in the cold storage

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than others, and so that
may influence what

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the people are offering
to the stores

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at any particular time.

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>> Yeah, so we choose
apples as a consumer

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with our eyes, right.
We eat with our eyes.

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But as a grower,
they are choosing

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apples for specific tasks
or specific markets.

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You know, whether it's
going to be a fresh fruit apple,

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or whether it's
going to go

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to wholesale market and be sold

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to grocery stores for
cold storage, eventually,

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whether they might
be keeping it,

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maybe they have a contract
with a school system,

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and they have to provide
apples

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throughout the
whole school year,

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then they might be storing it

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on their own farm
in cold storage.

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So there's lots of
different ways that they

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might be picking for that.

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So, if you're
an apple grower,

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and you're picking
for fresh fruit,

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you're going to leave that
apple on the tree

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as long as possible,

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because the longer
it stays on the tree,

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the higher the sugar
content is

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and the better flavor
it's going to have.

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<Amanda> Really.
>> Yeah,

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so if you're picking for
a wholesale

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to sell to a wholesaler,

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then you're going to be picking
a little bit earlier.

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The sugar content's going
to be a little bit lower,

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but it's going to have
more pressure

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or a bigger crunch.

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So, there's always that
like optimum time

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for each variety,

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where you catch it where
it has the best

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sugar content with the highest
amount of crunch

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and that one week window comes
together.

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<Amanda> Wow! That's a lot
for them to have to keep

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up with, because it's
going to differ

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from the right cultivar
to cultivar, isn't it?

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>> It is and the
crazy part is that

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you might visit a grocery store
or even a market stand

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and get a gala apple one week,

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and think, Oh this
is my favorite,

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and then you visit
a different grocery store

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or another stand
and that gala apple

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tastes totally different.

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>> Well, that's because
they're not all created equal.

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They're not
the same apple.

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There's different types
or in the apple world,

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we call them sports
or cultivars.

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There's different
types of galas.

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<Amanda> Really >> Yep.

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>> I would have thought
it was all just

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the exact same
genetic material.

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>> Yeah, so there's
different types of galas.

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There's different type
of golden delicious.

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There's different
types of red delicious.

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There's different types
of all those apples

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so when you get,
even from the same grower,

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he or she might have

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different types of those apples

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on their farm,
because they might

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ripen a little bit
earlier or later,

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or even have a different
disease resistance profile.

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>> Whew, well, you know what,

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I'm real glad that I'm not
in the apple business,

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because it sounds like
it's above my head,

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and I'm glad you're up
there to help give them

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some advice, because
I sure do like a good

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crispy apple
with a good flavor.

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Thanks a lot Kerrie.

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<Kerrie> You're welcome.

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>> Terasa, I think the
Gardens of the Week has

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been such a hit that we're
kind of expanding

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and having occasionally
kind of an

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in depth
Garden of the Week,

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and I think you have
one for us this week.

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<Terasa> We do.

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So we've mentioned
Swan Lake Iris Gardens

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on the show many times,

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since it is right here
in Sumter,

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and today our viewers
have the opportunity

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to get that virtual field trip

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through our Gardens of the Week.
Let's take a look.

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<Amanda> Swan Lake is a
beautiful jewel

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in the heart of Sumter,

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free and open
to the public,

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and an absolutely gorgeous
place to visit

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and see cypress trees.

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There's a boardwalk,
and of course an amazing

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collection of swans.

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Well, I was out in the
yard seeing what was still

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up and about
this time of year,

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and I came across
a few things,

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So this is a
hodgepodge hat.

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I have a hot pepper,
a calla lily,

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calla lily leaf,
some hydrangea,

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some poppy seed,
dried poppy seed heads

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and an oleander.

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So, this is
hodgepodge hat night.

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That's what we've got.

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Well, Terasa, you are so
kind to keep all these

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questions from
viewers coming in,

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so tell me which one
we are

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going to try to help with now.

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>> We are going to try
to help Beverly in Denmark.

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Beverly writes, "What can
I do with my vegetable

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"garden beds now to help
prepare for the fall?"

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>> Aha! Well I always admire
people who prepare

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because I'm always

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a day late
and a dollar short.

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Rob, I know that as someone
that's helping

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commercial people, you are well
aware of things that have

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to be done ahead of time,

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because they have to make money.

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So, what advice would
you give our viewer?

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>> That's an excellent question.

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The first thing I would
usually start with

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is literally clearing out
as much of the debris

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from any previous
crops as possible.

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That's going to minimize
any pests and disease

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carry over into future,

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into your fall crop
and fall plantings.

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There are some really good
things that we can do

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through the summer.

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In South Carolina, we have
really two growing seasons.

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There's the cool season
over the winter,

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and the warm season
over the summer.

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Well, we can grow things
like buckwheat, cow peas,

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sorghums,

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as covers crops for
our vegetable plots.

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That's going to remove
any excess fertilizer,

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and utilize any fertilizer
that we apply

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to our spring vegetables,

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which can lock it up
and into plants

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that we're currently growing,

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so our cover crops,

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which then, as they
decompose in the fall,

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it's going to help us
with nutrient

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and water retention,
and our fall plantings

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of vegetables.

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So, crops like buckwheat
are also fantastic

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for pollinators.

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So, it's another good way
to bring some beneficial

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insects into our
vegetable gardens,

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which can, A, help us
with pest control,

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but can really help
with pollination.

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>> Well, so if people
put these out, Rob,

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then are they
going to naturally

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phase out when
it's time for us

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to put in our fall garden,

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or do we have
to come in,

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and mow them
or crimp them,

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or what
will a home gardener do?

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>> They certainly need some
management, Amanda.

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You're absolutely right.
Mowing works really well.

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The shorter we can often
keep the cover crops,

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the easier they are to work
in later in the fall.

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So, as a general rule
of thumb,

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we would be looking at
mowing or cutting them down,

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when they're about a foot
to two feet tall.

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They're going
to come back,

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and continue to produce
that biomass,

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with any material
that we cut,

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we can also
use as a mulch.

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which is going to go to
improving our soil structures,

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and our organic matters
within the topsoil.

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Now, prior to planting,
ideally we would want

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to try and till it and
incorporate it into the soil,

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but they're are ways
and means through crimping

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or through chemical
application,

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if that's what
you want to do

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to kill those
crops out right.

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And then we can plant directly
back into the stubble

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of the
cover crops,

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reducing the need to
apply for the mulchers

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and keep those
organic matter levels

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in the top soil really,
really high.

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>> And, David Coyle has
published several places

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where you can read about

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the safety of glyphosate
when used

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according to the label,

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and so I try to remind
people that

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he's, of course, one of our
wonderful professors

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and so if people are concerned
about using a herbicide

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I would encourage them
to try to find his

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writings on glyphosate.

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Again, you always have to
follow the directions

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and read the label, but he does
give good information

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on how to use it effectively
and safely.

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And you just - one of
the things you said just

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really caught me, Rob,

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because I hadn't thought of it,

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but in the summer
it'll be hotter than blue blazes

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and we won't
have had new rain,

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but sometimes we'll just
get this huge damp deluge,

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and so you're right,

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any of the fertilizers would
have been washed

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and kind of lost to us

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and possibly taken
off site,

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but if we have
a cover crop,

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they will take them up,

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and store them and then
can be returned naturally.

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That's just to me such
a good

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environmental decision,
it sounds like.

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>> Absolutely it's a
really good way of recycling

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our nutrients,

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which is not only good
for our environment,

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be that surface or ground
water, for that matter,

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but it's also going
to save us money

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in the longer term, as well.

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>> Okay, now when we take
up the old crop residue,

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because you said it can harbor
some insects or disease,

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do we need to take
some of it off site

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or just far away from the - ?

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What would you recommend?

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>> I recommend taking it
off site and potentially

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composting if
you got a compost area.

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That works really well.

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Or it's going to be just
disposing of it.

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I wouldn't leave it close
to the vegetable garden,

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because you can pathogenic
transfer for things like

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powdery mildews,
downy mildews.

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Those spores will
still be around,

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anytime you disturb them,

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they're going
to be moving around,

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essentially with the plants.

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>> So, really don't just
pile it up

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at the edge of the road.

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If you've got a large
enough yard,

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take it as far away
as you can,

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or find another
disposal method that's

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allowed in your community.

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>> Absolutely.

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>> Okay, well that's
just wonderful.

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And the buck wheat's
good for pollinators.

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That's always fun for us,
because we can go out there

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and have something
to look at them on a day

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when maybe something
else isn't as exciting,

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we can see a fun
insect, can't we?

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>> Absolutely.

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>> Okay. Thanks so much.

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Terasa, who else has

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a question that we hope
we can help them

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with the guests we have tonight?

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>> Suzanne in North
Charleston has a question.

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She asks, "What is the
best way to find a

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"professional in my area
to assess the health

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"of a tree on my property?"

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>> Well, with
hurricane season,

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I think a lot of us
in South Carolina should

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keep an eye on those sorts
of things,

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and I don't think there's
anybody better than

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going to Cory for this,
because I know he's

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has a lot of experience in that.

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>> Hey Amanda. Yeah I mean,
that's a great question.

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Trees are wonderful.
I love trees,

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but they're
very large organisms,

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and unfortunately sometimes

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they fail and fall,
and when they do

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they have the potential
to do a lot of damage,

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and so there's a couple
of definitions we use

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for a hazard tree,
or there's a definition

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we use for a hazard tree.

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Number one, it has to be a
tree with a defect or some

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type of issue that
could cause it to fail,

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but it also must
have a target,

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something that it
could hit and damage.

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So a target.
The target's the easy part,

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that could be a
house or a car,

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or if it's somewhere
that could hit a person.

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The defect, however can be
quite tricky with a tree.

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Some of them are obvious,
when you have a dead limb

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or a broken limb
or something that could fall

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from a tree, but a lot of
times with large older trees,

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we have internal
decay or rot inside the tree,

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that's not visible
from the outside.

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Occasionally you might see
a mushroom growing

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off the tree or something
like that.

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And so that could be an
indication that there's

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something going on,
and so if you've got a tree,

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a large tree, it's older,

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and it's near your house
or near your car

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where your children play,
or something like that

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and you're
concerned about it,

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we would recommend hiring
or consulting

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with a certified arborist,

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an arborist or tree care
professional certified

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by the International Society
of Arboriculture.

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You can find an
arborist in your area,

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by going to their website

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www.treesaregood.org,

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trees are good.org,

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is the International Society
for Arborticulture's

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consumer website
where you can find

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arborists in your area,
or if you're having difficulty

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there you could call
your local Extension office

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and often
times we can help you

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provide a list
of local arborists

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who can come and help,

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but arborists are trained
to assess the health

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and well being of trees,
and so that's something that

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sometimes takes
specialized tools

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to determine basically how sound
the trunk of the tree is,

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and whether it will
support the tree through

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a storm or whatever.

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So anytime that you're concerned
about the overall health

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of a tree,
or perhaps you've done

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construction in the area,
maybe you've paved

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the driveway or done other work,
installed irrigation,

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where it might have
severed some roots

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of that tree, and you're
concerned about the long

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term health and
survival of that tree,

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that would be another time
to call an arborist

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to come in and look.

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So, we work with arborists
in Extension quite a bit,

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because again they
have specialized tools

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and skills

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to assess trees that we often
don't have in Extension.

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So I would encourage
people to use

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those professionals
when needed.

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>> Okay, and if you have a large
yard or acreage,

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you can leave trees if
they die, if they're not

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as you say, if they're not going
to harm anything,

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because they're useful
for wildlife.

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>> Right. If they don't have,
if they're out in the forest

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or on the back of the
property and there's not

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a very obvious target, where
if it falls it's going

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to destroy damage or
hurt something,

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then yeah we would
encourage you to leave those,

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and let
nature do its thing.

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<Amanda> Okay,
thank you so much.

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Ben Powell is our
apiculturist

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and bee - a pollinator
specialist,

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I guess is another
way to say it,

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and there is a very
interesting interaction

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between bees and an evasive
species tree,

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the tallow tree.

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And so let's
learn about that,

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by having a
conversation with Ben.

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I'm speaking
with Ben Powell,

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and Ben is our
apiculture specialist,

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and that means he knows
a lot about bees

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and pollinators, in case you
don't know what apiculture is,

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and Ben, we're going
to talk about a topic

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that seems completely
unrelated to that.

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We're going to talk about
an invasive species tree,

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the Chinese tallow tree.

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So, I'm just going to take
a second to say

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that this tree was real
important

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in China for thousands of
years because the seeds

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have a waxy coating on
them that you could make

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fats and cooking oils
and fats and all from,

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and even in the U. S. government
in the 1900s

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was looking for new ways
to make money

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and they brought and tried
to establish this in Florida,

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as a way to make soap,

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and then that didn't work out,

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but let's talk about

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I'll let you say the
scientific name,

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and what happened to that tree
when you plant it

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in certain parts of the
southeast United States,

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how it behaves.

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<Ben> Sure. So the plant is
Triadica sebifera,

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or the Chinese tallow
or sometimes called

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the popcorn tree, because
the little white seed things

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that look a
little bit like popcorn,

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and it is all the buzz in
beekeeping circles right now.

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>> Oh, oh!

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I say that
tongue in cheek,

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because this particular
plant has long been known

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as being a very good
nectar source for honey bees

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all across the
Southeastern United States

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<Amanda> Wow!

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>> - but it's also an extremely
invasive plant,

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and we have learned that
after decades

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of having this plant around

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expanding and displacing
native species,

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that maybe the benefits
that it provides

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to honey bees

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is not quite enough to overcome
the negative affects

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it has
on ecosystems.

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>> You say that
it is good for the beekeepers

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that it blooms at a time

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when other things
are kind of

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dwindling a little bit,

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but if we could have

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more natural vegetation,
are there other plants

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that potentially would
be pollen producing

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or have nectar that the
bees could use instead?

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>> Oh yeah. So, the beekeeping
community is a little

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concerned about
control efforts,

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because for a long time
it's been understood that

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the Chinese tallow tree
was an important nectar source

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late in the spring,

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and that large volumes
of honey could be developed

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off of stands
of Chinese tallow.

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So we actually have a
number of migratory beekeepers

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inside and
outside of the state

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that move to the tallow stands
when they're in bloom,

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and they're able to produce
surplus honey,

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which obviously is
important for them

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maintaining their bee
keeping operations.

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The problem is though, is
the bees have to have a

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diversity of food sources.

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They not only need nectar,
but they need pollen,

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and they need it early
in the season

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to build up their bee colonies,

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so that they're ready when
the nectar flow happens

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and the problem with a plant
like this is,

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if it displaces those
other plant species,

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which are important during
that build up phase,

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then it doesn't matter if
it's a good honey source,

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if you can't get your bee
colonies ready for it.

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>> Aha! So it would be like if
we only had barbecue to eat

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our whole life and never got any
vegetables, or what -

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>> What are you talking about?
I'd be good with that -

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<Amanda> But what
you're saying is,

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just nectar isn't,
it takes more than just

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nectar to have
healthy bee colonies,

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and so if there's
nothing else available,

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except just this
one month of nectar,

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that's not really the best

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ecological environment
for our bees.

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>> That's right honey bees
are adapted

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to be generalists and they are
able to derive food

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from a variety of food sources,

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and they need that food
over a long period of time.

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The problem was something
like Chinese tallow,

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is it only blooms for two,
three, maybe four weeks,

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whereas it may be
displacing plants

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that provide food for two,
three or four months,

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and not to overlook
the native pollinators, too

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that need that
diversity of plants.

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You know many of our
native pollinators

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are specialists on one
group of plants,

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and if that group of
plants is eliminated

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from an ecosystem,
then that pollinator

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is eliminated from
that ecosystem.

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>> Oh! And we know

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from what you've told us
and other people in the past

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that those native pollinators
are really important,

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although we talk so much about
the European honey bee,

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but those other guys

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they are major work
horses within

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the whole agricultural system,
aren't they?

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>> That is true. Yes.

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>> Have y'all been doing
some research on perhaps

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biological control, and is
that something that

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is now a source
of conversation

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and perhaps some confusion
and some worry?

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and can you shed some light
on that for us, please?

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>> Sure. So, the US Department
of Agriculture

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has a program to research
control methods

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for a variety
of invasive exotic species,

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and that includes researching
physical controls

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like mowing
and cultural controls

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like burning and
chemical controls

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like herbicides, but also
biological controls.

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Going to the native range
of that species

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and looking to see what pests,
insects or diseases

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actually affect
the growth,

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and through that
investigation they determine,

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are any of these pests,
insects of that species,

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the invasive plant,
are they specialists?

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Do they specialize
on just that plant

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and could they be used and
introduced to help slow

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the growth of the plant
in other locations?

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And they have through
their research identified

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two species, one
that's Lepidopteron

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or caterpillar,
one leaf beetle

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that feed exclusively
on the Chinese tallow

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and they have determined that it
is not a threat to other

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plant species in our
native ecosystem,

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so they are considering
a release program,

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right now.

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>> If that happened, how
effective do you think

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it would be?

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Do you think it will get
rid of every

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all the Chinese tallow trees?

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>> Think about it. If I'm a
specialist and the only thing

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I feed on is that one plant
would I ever want

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to completely kill that plant?

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Cause if I did,
I'd kill myself, right.

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Yeah.

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So, typically the
specialist pests

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or biological control agents

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don't eliminate
their hosts.

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They reduce its ability
to reproduce,

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or they reduce
it's growth rate,

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so that it can't
expand as quickly,

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just kind of like
in their home range,

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they're just a natural
native pest that pressures

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that plant and sort of
keeps it under control,

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but doesn't eliminate it.

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>> We hope that
it won't impact

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the beekeepers,
that it actually

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might end up by helping the
overall health

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of a colony be better fed
or more balanced.

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>> Right, well I always
like in the terms

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ecology and economy
to each other,

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when you're talking with
your financial advisor,

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what did they tell you to
do with your portfolio?

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Diversify. Diversify.
Diversify.

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Right?
>> You're right. Yeah.

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>> If something bad happens
on one side,

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the rest of your portfolio is
able to take care of it

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and you don't lose
a lot of money,

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same thing with the ecology.

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Diversify the ecology.
Diversify the landscape

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and individual species
will not suffer

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near as much if there's
an adverse event.

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>> Okay.

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Well I want to thank you
for what you're doing

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to help our beekeepers
in the state.

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We know that the bees

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have a lot of things
that are giving them,

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that are difficult
for them

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and we want them to be
as healthy as possible

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everybody on a cool day,
enjoys

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a cup of tea with honey
and then there's nothing

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better in the summer when
we're having some biscuits

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than to put some
honey on them too.

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Thank you, Ben for the work

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you're doing for the beekeepers
and the people who enjoy

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honey in South Carolina.

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>> Well, you're
quite welcome

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and I hope everybody gets out
to your local farmers market

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and supports your
local beekeepers.

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>> We'll do it.

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>> Okay. Thanks.

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>> Well isn't it something
when you have

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an invasive species
that has a purpose,

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but we do not want
this tree to spread,

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because it is really
problematic when it does.

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I want to thank y'all for being
with us tonight

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and I sure hope that
we'll see you next week,

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next time.

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Good night from
Making It Grow.

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