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Hello and welcome to 
Making it Grow.

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We're so glad that you 
can join us tonight.

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I'm Amanda McNulty with Clemson 
Extension. And we are

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happy that we're still 
able to visit with

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you on Tuesday nights. Things 
are different, but it's

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wonderful to know that 
y'all are out there.

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Thank you for reaching out to us 
and letting us

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know you're still enjoying the 
show. I'm joined

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tonight by Terasa Lott. Terasa 
how are you this evening?

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I'm doing well. Thank you. 
And Terasa, we're going

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to do something a little 
different tonight.

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Instead of your wonderful garden 
of the week pictures.

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We're gonna get right into a new 
format for tonight.

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This is something 
we thought might

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be fun for tonight's show. And 
we're going to visit with

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different extension 
agents and specialists

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and people. And 
they're gonna talk about

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something and show 
pictures of

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something they're interested. 
And then we'll move on to

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somebody else. Terasa, I 
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the first person in line 
tonight is you.

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That seems appropriate 
for all that you do for us.

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What's going on 
that you want to share

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with us tonight? 
Well, I feel a little bit

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bad that I'm showing some 
problems. Because, that's

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not a great replacement 
or alternative for our

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normal happy pictures or 
gardens of the week. But

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it's also good for our 
viewers to

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know that just because we have a

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television show doesn't mean we 
are immune from having problems.

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And when it comes to gardening, 
there are a lot of

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challenges. Every year, I'm 
faced with squash vine

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borers it seems. But this 
year I have two fungal

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diseases that are 
affecting my squash and

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zucchini. And they are 
both mildews, powdery

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mildew and downy mildew. 
Well Terasa, try to tell us

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a little bit about the 
difference in these two

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and the symptoms that you 
see with each one and the

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conditions, a little 
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that caused them sometimes. 
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give you sort of an 
overview of what I know,

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keeping in mind I am 
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disease expert. But the 
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with that one. It looks 
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implies. So you'll see 
white powdery growth on

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the leaves, on the stems 
and the pedals, that

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little stuff where the 
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It does it almost looks 
like somebody sprinkle

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powder sugar on there. 
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understand it will affect 
all cucurbits and

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unfortunately we don't 
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a variety that is 
resistant in terms of

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squash. So, we 
do have that great HGIC

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fact sheet on cucurbit diseases.

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And it 
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recommended in South 
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that are resistant. So, if 
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cantaloupe and cucumber, 
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to the powdery mildew, but 
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squash. The downy mildew 
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So, they're easy to 
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another. The downy mildew 
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spots on the leaves. So, 
sort of oddly shaped

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constrained by the veins 
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doesn't look hairy or 
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naked eye. What I 
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on the underside of the 
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the help of a hand lens, you 
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the sporangia, the spores and 
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Terasa, I believe 
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the downy mildew, does 
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Florida and actually 
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state's, moves up the 
coast and they have an

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alert system when it gets 
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homeowners there's

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anything we can do once 
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Tell me what you know 
about it please, ma'am.

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Sure, well you know Tony 
knows his stuff and he is right.

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The spores do 
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They can't over winter here 
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as temperatures do increase, 
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chance of that moving 
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able to stay viable 
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Unfortunately, right 
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as homeowners can do. The 
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downy mildew is to plant 
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best, hope you get a 
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plants kind of succumb 
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There are some fungicides 
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our fact sheet for both 
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Chlorothalonil, that 
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Daconil is one that I 
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Sulfur sprays can 
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believe for powdery 
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restrictions in terms of 
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85 degrees. 
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mildew as well you can 
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and baking soda mixture. 
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tablespoons of each and a 
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would apply that. But, again 
restrictions not within

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two weeks of a sulfur 
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over 90 degrees are 
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stressed. And it's really 
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what so, we stayed 
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spray unless control was 
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really sort of a last 
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Well, I hope that you got 
a lot of squash and that

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you and Eddie enjoyed many 
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Because it sounds 
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going to have to take the 
place of that now.

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We've had a pretty good crop 
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brownies with summer 
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And you might be surprised to 
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they're absolutely delicious, 
tastes just like a

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brownie and the squash 
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moisture. 
Terasa, that was a lot

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of fun. And, as always, it's 
grand to talk to you.

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My pleasure. I hope next time, 
it'll be something a

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little more cheerful.

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I'm heading over to Abbeville

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to talk with Adam Gore. 
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horticulture agent in that 
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his PhD in turf. And Adam, 
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interesting grass. I 
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to be really in the lower 
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but you said you've got a nice

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stand in a part of your yard. So 
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like about it and what's good. 
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downfalls of St Augustine, 
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like you said, a lot of people 
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Saint Augustine grass is for the 
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called Charleston grass. 
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here in Greenwood, because 
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I was able to sit in the 
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just said to me 
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But you know as charming 
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is, it does have some of 
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If you are worried about 
the grassy weeds in it

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like crab grass or some 
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you really have to stay 
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of your pre-emergent herbicide 
use. And that's for both your

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grassy weeds and your broad 
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St. Augustine grass 
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picky children, it doesn't 
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which is a little bit fertilizer 
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you cut it a little bit taller

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somewhere about two and

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a half to three inches. But if 
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to spray it with all these 
chemicals in it, you're

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gonna end up with a lot of bare 
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have to be very particular with 
it. But in areas where you

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get a lot shade, it does 
fantastic. It's the most

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shade tolerant grass 
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grasses, which is where it is 
in my yard. It's underneath

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a lot of, unfortunately they're 
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but, it does well in the shade.

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It doesn't like cold. 
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where you can have it but 
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It's nice and wide, the leaves 
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makes it a little bit softer 
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And because you cut so 
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that if you always very 
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those pre emergents out 
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to post emergents, and 
you don't over fertilize it.

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And then you said to 
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there's a certain set of 
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you should also follow. 
Yes ma'am chinch bugs

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are a number one insect 
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but because they like 
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the thatch, if you can reduce 
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not over fertilizing by 
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what it needs. And you can 
airify it. So you go out

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and remove some of that 
thatch layer, you can reduce

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the habitat that we see 
that's available for

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chinch bugs, so you don't 
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of them as much. 
Thanks a lot for sharing that

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information with us. We 
appreciate it. Yes, ma'am,

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Thank you.

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Next, we're gonna talk 
with one of our

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favorite people and she's down 
in the Low-country.

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Amy Dabbs, 
good to see you.

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What's something that 
had you excited recently?

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Hi, Amanda. 
I have had so many

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compliments about the 
beautiful Stokes Aster.

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This is a variety 
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called Peachie's Pick. 
Peachie's - how did that -

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how does the name come 
from - Well, from what I

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understand this cultivar is 
named after a woman from

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Mississippi who found 
this beautiful

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southeastern native plant 
named, Peachie's Saxton,

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so whoever, you know, did 
up the selection on this

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particular cultivar, named it 
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It's called Peachie's Pick, 
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make people think, it's a 
peach colored flower, but

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it's still the same 
beautiful purple as the

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you know traditional 
native Stokes Aster.

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It has a few 
little improvements that

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make it, I think a little 
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in the landscape. 
Like really upright

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multi branching, 
long flowering stems,

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so it has 
lots of flowers at one

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time, very upright, and the 
stem is very stiff.

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It doesn't flop over, 
which makes it really nice for

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the landscape. So, really it 
makes a better presentation

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in the garden. Yes and I have

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it sort of woven in a 
little narrow perennial bed

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with you know a variety 
of other perennials and

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changes and things like 
that. And it's just been

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such a show stopper this 
summer that I wanted to

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you know show folks how 
pretty a native plant can

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be in the landscape 
for people

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who are on the fence about 
native plants are weedy or

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native plants get floppy. You 
know, there are some

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horticultural selections 
and that I still have all

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the same attractive 
qualities as their

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original species that can 
be incorporated it. And no

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one will ever know the 
difference, they'll think

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you've got some sort of 
tropical, strange plant in

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your garden but really it's 
just a good

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old-fashioned southeastern 
native plant. Does this one do

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what we often want and select 
natives for it? Does it

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attract pollinators? It sure 
does? I've seen a lot of

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different butterflies and 
bees visiting it.

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I'm still trying to 
convince all the

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pollinators to come in my 
yard in my new

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landscape. But we have 
seen quite a few

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butterflies in malls 
around the area, lots of

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little bees. Of course the 
hummingbirds are not

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visiting it, but they're 
visiting nearby flowers. So I

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think it's a contender for 
my favorite native to

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incorporate in the 
landscape, at least for

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this summer. And it sounds 
like it's got a pretty

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extended bloom period as 
well, Amy. I think it's a

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bit longer than the 
natives, you know straight

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native species. This 
one seems to live a lot

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longer and even the buds 
are really attractive.

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Even as they're budding 
up, they have a real

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pretty white look to him 
and then as they unfold

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they're very fluffy. And they 
open up into the

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traditional kind of 
cornflower blue Stokes

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Aster flower color that 
you're looking for. So, I'm

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really impressed with 
this plant and I think our

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our viewers will be too. 
Because that's the color

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that is a little bit hard 
to come by and could

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really add so much pizzazz. 
Don't you think?

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It really can. Especially, 
it really pops off

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the lime green colors and 
the whites you know, that

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Charlestonians love to 
use in their gardens.

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These deep greens and 
whites and then just to

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have that little pop of 
blue is really

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unexpected and the fact 
is native in the colony

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there's a visiting it is 
an extra bonus. Well, Amy

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this was a wonderful 
thing to learn about.

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Thank you so much for 
sharing this information.

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Thank you Amanda. 
We're going to Easley,

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South Carolina and visit 
with Cory Tanner. Cory is

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the head of 
the hort team.

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And he's a good choice for 
that, because he really

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knows a lot about 
horticulture. And you got a

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good bit going on at your 
yard, Cory. One thing

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sounds kind of fun, but I 
think it involves some

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engineering and nails and 
hammering. Tell us what

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what the story was and 
what you're trying to

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accomplish. 
Yeah, we have six

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blueberry bushes in our 
yard. We love blueberries,

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Amanda. And that's a fruit 
that I always recommend

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homeowners to start with 
cause it's an easy fruit

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to grow in the home 
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slight varieties of the 
rabbit eye type of the

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blueberry that are well 
adapted to South Carolina.

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But the bad thing is that 
they're a favorite fruit of

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birds, as well. And I 
love birds. And we feed birds

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and we have lots of birds 
in our backyard, which is

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wonderful. If I don't do 
something, we will not get

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very many blueberries 
because of all the birds,

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particularly the robins 
seem to really enjoy

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the blueberries and 
the cardinals, which

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I like to have 
around but

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I don't want to ruin the 
blueberries. So we use bird

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netting. But the challenge is, 
if you just drape bird

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netting over your 
bushes, it's an

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incredible hassle to get 
in there and harvest

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you're ripe berries. And 
when you try to pull

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the netting off of the plant, 
it often removes a lot

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of your berries too. So, 
this year to

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get around that, I built a frame 
to go over my planting.

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As I mentioned I have six 
bushes, they're all in a row.

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They're about six foot 
tall really a little

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too tall I need to do some

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pruning to get them a little 
shorter. I bought a

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25 by 50 foot 
section of bird netting.

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I was able 
to use PVC conduit

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that you can get 
at a home supply store,

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with elbows 
and catchings. I was able

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to build a support around 
planting of blueberries.

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Well, so what I 
did was I used a half

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inch PVC conduit 
and I got three quarter

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inch metal conduit. And 
cut it into one foot

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sections and drove those 
inch sections

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into the ground. It's along the

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planting and then I could 
put the plastic,

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the PVC pipe down in that 
three quarter inch

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conduit and it would hold 
it up right.

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Then I could assemble the rest 
of my frame. So basically

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I did big hoops, people 
think about like a

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croquet hoop. A big 
hoop but then I put a tea

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and crosses in the middle 
so that I could

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put one piece all the way across 
the top to support it

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across the top. And I 
wasn't entirely sure if

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it would hold up through 
wind and all that,

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but it's done quite well. So, 
once I have a record that,

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I use no glue. All I 
did was cut to pieces the

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size and then start come 
together. You know what

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PVC kind of sticks together. 
I use no glue that way

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after the season 
I can take this

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whole structure down and store 
it and then put it in

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full and then what you do 
on the bottom. Does it

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come all the way to the 
ground and how did you

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secure that or did you? 
I did secure it.

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I'll say the most difficult 
part of the whole process

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is actually pulling the netting 
across the

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planting because it 
tends to get caught up in

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stuff. My wife and 
I managed to do it we got

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it across the error on 
and it provides full

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coverage. And then on the 
bottom it does need to

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drape all the way to the 
ground that way noting

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can get underneath it. 
And then I just we just

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let it drape all the way 
to

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the ground and then secure it 
with sod staples, little

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metal staples that you can get 
again at home

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supply stores or order online. 
You know every two to

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three feet along the 
edges we stapled it down.

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Just press those into 
the soil so that

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nothing can get underneath 
there. And that we just left one

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area with enough slack in 
the net, that we can

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actually go under it. 
Because the plants are

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tall and the frame is 
tall, we can actually get

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under the to harvest. We 
can actually get under

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the net and work and pick 
underneath that netting.

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It's worked quite well. We 
had a really good

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crop of blueberries. We've 
already made one batch of

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blueberry jam. Little Emma 
helped with that and also

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some blueberry muffins 
that she made pretty

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much ourselves. Bless her heart. 
Yes. We even

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put a few in the freezer. 
So it really pays dividends

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to do this so 
that we can get

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our berries and not lose 
them all to the birds.

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Thanks so much and enjoy the 
rest of the summer.

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Thanks my pleasure, Amanda. 
Thank you too.

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We gonna run down to 
Beaufort and

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I'm going to speak with my 
friend Laura

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Lee Rose and Laura Lee Rose. I 
think you are planning for

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something the harvest in the 
Fall. Tell me what

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you've been up to well I played 
in the bed of sweet

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potatoes this week. On Monday I 
got some Bradshaw sweet

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potatoes named for one of 
my favorite professors at

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Clemson, horticulture 
professor, David Bradshaw.

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And he gave Cory Tanner 
a sweet potato or some

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sweet potatoes anyway 
back in the day when

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it was called Mahon. 
He developed this

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sweet potatoes and Cory 
has been saving it ever since.

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And so I got some 
of the slips. Well, David

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Bradshaw is one of my 
absolute favorite

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professors too. And he 
loves heritage plants and

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plants with a story. 
How long does it take the

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sweet potatoes. They grow 
a long, long time, don't

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they Laura Lee? Yeah it's a 
120 to

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130 days 
to maturity. Now, I can

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probably start with my 
fingers I might be able

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to also little ones up 
earlier than that, but

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generally, sweet potatoes 
take a long time and

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they're not done until 
the foliage dies back or

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you wanna pull em', dig em' 
before frost. Okay and

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then you cure em' 
for a couple of days?

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Yeah. 
Spread them out on some

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newspaper in a warm dry 
place and just let em cure.

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Okay, well I'm gonna think 
that when we've gotten

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some, when we get some 
Fallish days that

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you'll be enjoying roasted sweet 
potatoes. I hope so,

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because I sure like em in a 
pie, on a grill and

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just right out of the 
oven. Thanks so much Laura Lee.

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Thank you.

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We're gonna go over to

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York County where Paul 
Thompson is the

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horticulture agent. Paul, a 
lot of people have been

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having problems with our 
own native dogwoods.

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They just seem to be all sorts 
of issues that they have.

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You've got a tree that 
grows near your office

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that we might be able to 
consider, instead. Tell us

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what that is and what it 
what it likes and how

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to grow one please. Okay, 
the dogwoods, a lot

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them are 
suffering from powdery

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mildew, 
which is a common

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summertime disease. 
Some worse than

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others. Several years back 
when we first moved to

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the, what we 
call the new York County office.

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We did a lot of

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landscaping around that 
office and they actually put

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in a new parking area and 
driveway

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to make it more 
accessible.

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But I planted a 
Evergreen Kousa Dogwood.

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So this one keeps it's leaves 
all year. It doesn't

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suffer from powdery 
mildew at all.

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It's a rather small 
squat tree. So it

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doesn't get a lot of hype 
to it. But it is

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just absolutely loaded 
with blooms.

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It actually started about 
three or four weeks ago.

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It's still in flower. So it 
blooms for a long time.

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And the flowers are followed

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by the typical Kousa fruit 
like on the regular Kousa

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Dogwood of 
bright red

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moral size fruits that are on 
that tree in the fall and

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are quite ornamental. So this 
story would be great for

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somebody that wants a 
small flowering tree,

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gonna reach a height of 
probably eventually

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around fifteen feet with 
about the same spread.

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It's just a really 
attractive tree with a

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lot of flower power. And 
the master gardener

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class is always going on 
when we do it in the

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office when it was 
in fruit and everybody

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was always ask me what 
that is.

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It's a good tree and is not 
really, really common.

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I got it from a native 
plant nursery up in Mount

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Pilot, North Carolina when 
I was looking for some

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special thing. Does it want some

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shade or is it okay in full 
sun? It seems to do

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well in full sun to part shade.

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It's grown elsewhere like at 
the Bartlett tree lab.

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They have one. The South Pole 
Sun that performs well.

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This one probably gets shade 
from

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I don't know, probably 
three o'clock on.

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I got a large oak tree, 
not too far from it,

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but nothing directly overhead. 
It really does sound like

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a lovely tree, Paul. Thank 
you for sharing this

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information with us. Well, 
thanks for having me on.

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I enjoyed it.

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We're going to go talk 
with our friend,

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Tricia DeHond in Florence 
county, where she is the

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horticulture agent. And 
she also takes care of

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Darlington county. And I 
think Trish, right now

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instead of helping a 
homeowner with a lawn with

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a landscape project, you 
came up with one

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yourself, to make a home 
that you're renting

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look a lot nicer without 
going through a lot of expense.

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I've enjoyed staying in 
Florence. And my neighbors,

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I've gotten to know them. 
And one of them

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has re-landscaped their yard.

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I thought well maybe

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there's a few things that 
I could

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do around my place to make 
it a little better.

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So, I have 
unfortunately inherited a

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very weedy yard, 
with just a few shrubs.

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And I'm going to expand 
the landscape area.

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I'll show you how I did. 
it. I spruced up my

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place with some pine straw. I 
think I spent less than

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twelve dollars for this 
whole project.

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The first thing I did was 
cut the grass and weeds

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very short. Unfortunately, 
I have warned about in a

472
00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:02,167
lot of other weeds in my 
yard and a lot of perennials.

473
00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:05,303
So, rather than spraying, 
I decided to smother

474
00:25:05,403 --> 00:25:09,374
them out. 
And so I got some

475
00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:13,378
cardboard boxes from when 
I moved in and

476
00:25:13,478 --> 00:25:17,382
some newspaper and a 
water hose. And after I

477
00:25:17,482 --> 00:25:20,151
cut the grass really 
short I took the hose and

478
00:25:20,252 --> 00:25:23,522
I laid it down to show me 
the border of where I

479
00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,157
was going to put the pine straw. 
I could move

480
00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:29,527
around, change the shape of it 
and measure it and decide how

481
00:25:29,628 --> 00:25:31,830
big of an area I wanted 
to cover.

482
00:25:31,930 --> 00:25:35,667
And then I wetted down the grass 
and laid down the cardboard.

483
00:25:35,767 --> 00:25:39,871
I bordered and I 
overlapped the edges.

484
00:25:39,971 --> 00:25:45,176
And then when I ran out 
of cardboard, I used newspaper.

485
00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,646
And then I put some of the

486
00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:51,483
newspaper under the 
existing shrubs and I

487
00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:54,819
wetted down all the 
cardboard and newspaper.

488
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,290
And then the pine straw 
just looks nice on top.

489
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,558
And then I got my 
containers and I

490
00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:03,828
put them on the top. And we're 
going to use those.

491
00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:06,798
I'm gonna the plant vegetables 
in a couple of those and

492
00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:09,000
some other ornamental plants 
in one of them.

493
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,436
That will be a future 
project that we could

494
00:26:11,536 --> 00:26:13,638
talk about. We'll look 
forward to coming back

495
00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:15,907
and seeing some pictures 
of that. And thanks

496
00:26:16,007 --> 00:26:18,910
for giving us an idea 
of what we can do that's

497
00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:21,479
simple, that really can make a 
difference in the

498
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:24,182
curb appeal of our house. 
Thanks Trish. Thank you

499
00:26:24,282 --> 00:26:27,585
very much Amanda I 
enjoyed it.

500
00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:31,489
We're gonna head down to the 
coast and talk with

501
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:34,426
Zack Snipes who is 
stationed at the Coastal

502
00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:37,629
Research and Education 
Center. And you do a lot of

503
00:26:37,729 --> 00:26:40,065
work with growers down 
there, tomatoes are still

504
00:26:40,165 --> 00:26:44,069
important part of their 
income. And there's one

505
00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:46,071
disease that you said 
this year, particularly

506
00:26:46,171 --> 00:26:48,606
the weather patterns have 
made it worse than usual.

507
00:26:48,707 --> 00:26:51,543
But we almost always have 
it so. Tell us what it's

508
00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:53,712
called and what it looks 
like and how

509
00:26:53,812 --> 00:26:57,716
it progresses, please. Thanks 
Amanda. So, I've been

510
00:26:57,816 --> 00:27:00,318
getting a lot of calls 
from commercial growers,

511
00:27:00,418 --> 00:27:03,321
backyard farmers and 
even homeowners that are

512
00:27:03,421 --> 00:27:06,458
that are calling. 
And it's a disease called

513
00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:10,161
bacterial spot. And obviously 
it's a bacterial disease.

514
00:27:10,261 --> 00:27:13,064
But it's a little 
black or brown spot that

515
00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:15,734
starts on the bottom of 
the plant and then as

516
00:27:15,834 --> 00:27:19,170
the season progresses, it 
moves its way up the plant.

517
00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:22,107
Typically, we get calls 
about it when plants

518
00:27:22,207 --> 00:27:24,476
start to yellow because 
that's when people really

519
00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:27,312
notice, it if they're not 
out there looking and

520
00:27:27,412 --> 00:27:30,181
looking for it. So, it 
starts off as a couple

521
00:27:30,281 --> 00:27:32,584
black spots at the bottom 
and then by the

522
00:27:32,684 --> 00:27:35,587
time it turns yellow you've got 
a really bad infestation of

523
00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:40,191
it. Are there

524
00:27:40,291 --> 00:27:43,361
environmental conditions 
that make it worse for

525
00:27:43,461 --> 00:27:47,232
growers. Yes, ma'am. So we 
we've got a lot of rain

526
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:50,201
late spring, early summer 
here in Charleston

527
00:27:50,301 --> 00:27:53,705
It's been really humid. 
Those conditions,

528
00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:55,540
coupled with the 
afternoon thunderstorms

529
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,510
really speeds up the 
spread of it, because

530
00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,746
it's a pathogen and it 
likes the warm weather

531
00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:05,683
and the humidity really gets it 
going.

532
00:28:05,784 --> 00:28:08,119
A lot of times we 
can help ourselves out

533
00:28:08,219 --> 00:28:11,089
by getting resistant varieties. 
But that's not the case here.

534
00:28:11,189 --> 00:28:13,825
Correct, yes we have 
resistance in peppers,

535
00:28:13,925 --> 00:28:16,261
but we do not have it in 
tomato.

536
00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:18,730
So there's some cultural 
things that both

537
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:20,799
farmers and backyard 
growers can do.

538
00:28:20,899 --> 00:28:23,968
You can spread this the plants 
out to give them more

539
00:28:24,069 --> 00:28:27,639
air flow. You can prune the 
suckers early in the season

540
00:28:27,739 --> 00:28:30,041
when the plants are small. 
And again you're just

541
00:28:30,141 --> 00:28:31,976
trying to get more air 
flow through

542
00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:34,279
there so the plant dries out,

543
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:37,182
so the disease doesn't spread as 
bad. And there's two

544
00:28:37,282 --> 00:28:39,384
chemicals that we predominantly 
use and homeowners can

545
00:28:39,484 --> 00:28:43,354
use as well, 
copper and mancozeb.

546
00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:46,324
These two products are 
protectant products. So you

547
00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:49,260
really need to scout, get 
out there early and catch it

548
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,397
early. And you use these 
products preventively

549
00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:55,133
before you get the 
disease. It's just

550
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,635
a physical barrier 
between the pathogen, the

551
00:28:57,735 --> 00:28:59,737
bacteria and the 
plant.

552
00:28:59,838 --> 00:29:03,074
It's not going to fix it, 
It's not going to cure it.

553
00:29:03,174 --> 00:29:07,112
But it'll slow it down. So, 
even if you have some if

554
00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:09,981
you are consistent 
applying these two

555
00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:12,584
chemicals, 
you alternate them

556
00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:14,786
and read the directions 
about how frequently you

557
00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:17,422
can use them. that 
could at least help

558
00:29:17,522 --> 00:29:20,525
protect foliage to some 
extent from having it get

559
00:29:20,625 --> 00:29:23,294
worse. You can't cure it's 
not gonna get better but

560
00:29:23,394 --> 00:29:25,797
you could at least keep those 
leaves as healthy

561
00:29:25,897 --> 00:29:28,466
as possible. Correct and 
that's all you're trying

562
00:29:28,566 --> 00:29:31,169
to do just buy yourself a 
little time, buy the

563
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:33,671
plant a little time, so it can 
photosynthesize and

564
00:29:33,771 --> 00:29:36,141
really put some energy 
and sugar into making the

565
00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:38,543
tomatoes. So you know you 
might give yourself

566
00:29:38,643 --> 00:29:40,812
another three weeks or 
month. And on some

567
00:29:40,912 --> 00:29:43,114
determinant type tomatoes, 
that's really all you

568
00:29:43,214 --> 00:29:47,519
need to get done. 
We really appreciate all

569
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,020
the things you're doing

570
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,290
to try to help these grower stay 
in business and help us

571
00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:56,828
have those wonderful, my friends 
calling M and M

572
00:29:56,928 --> 00:30:01,833
sandwiches, maters and 
mayonnaise. They're hard to beat

573
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,669
Aren't they? Oh, yeah! 
Thanks for having me

574
00:30:04,769 --> 00:30:08,506
Amanda. We're heading 
over to the beautiful

575
00:30:08,606 --> 00:30:11,509
community of Pendelton, South 
Carolina where Barbara

576
00:30:11,609 --> 00:30:16,714
Smith, a good friend of 
mine, is working from home.

577
00:30:16,814 --> 00:30:20,451
Crooked Trail Farm and 
Barbara generally you're

578
00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:21,953
at HGIC

579
00:30:22,053 --> 00:30:25,290
on campus answering 
questions from people all

580
00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:28,059
over the place and today 
we are glad that you

581
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:30,929
could carve out some time 
to tell us about one

582
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:35,400
of the favorite landscape 
plants you have on your farm.

583
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,203
Amanda, it's good to 
be here with

584
00:30:38,303 --> 00:30:40,505
you even though we're 
having to visit virtually.

585
00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:45,143
I wish I could be there in 
person with you. You, know, when

586
00:30:45,243 --> 00:30:47,478
I meet someone, 
I always tell that

587
00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:49,681
I'm a certified, card carrying 
plant geek.

588
00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:53,151
I bleed green.

589
00:30:53,251 --> 00:30:55,653
And people will ask me 
what my favorite plants

590
00:30:55,753 --> 00:31:01,092
are, and it really depends on 
what happens to be growing

591
00:31:01,192 --> 00:31:04,562
in the yard that week. Cause I 
really tried to design my

592
00:31:04,662 --> 00:31:07,765
landscape where 
something's growing year round.

593
00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:10,368
But, hands down one of my

594
00:31:10,468 --> 00:31:15,173
favorites groups of plants are 
Japanese maples. They just

595
00:31:15,273 --> 00:31:19,978
fascinate me. Well and the 
variety of color, spring color,

596
00:31:20,078 --> 00:31:24,816
fall color, leaf shaped. You 
know it's stunning

597
00:31:24,916 --> 00:31:30,288
how varied they can be. 
Oh it is! And I have to tell you

598
00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:33,091
a story, the very first 
Japanese maple that I got

599
00:31:33,191 --> 00:31:36,494
is that my husband and I 
bought our farm in

600
00:31:36,594 --> 00:31:39,664
1976 and 
started building our house.

601
00:31:39,764 --> 00:31:43,368
We finished it. We built 
the house ourselves with our own

602
00:31:43,468 --> 00:31:50,408
two hands and the marriage 
survived. And he gave me a

603
00:31:50,508 --> 00:31:54,846
Japanese Maple seedling, the 
Acer palmatum.

604
00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:57,548
It was in a one gallon 
can about the size

605
00:31:57,649 --> 00:32:01,486
of a pencil and knee high. And I 
planted it near the house

606
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:05,556
where I keep it watered and 
pampered it and all.

607
00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,493
Now, it's probably got a 
circumference

608
00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:13,564
of it maybe two feet. 
Gracious!

609
00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:17,969
It's huge. We call it 
Mother Maple. She's

610
00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:21,539
beautiful and I have shared 
seedlings with I don't

611
00:32:21,639 --> 00:32:24,075
know how many people 
throughout the years, you

612
00:32:24,175 --> 00:32:28,279
know from her offspring. 
When she and I keep

613
00:32:28,379 --> 00:32:34,352
calling her she but when 
she has her fall color, it is

614
00:32:34,452 --> 00:32:39,023
the most brilliant orange, red 
on fire,

615
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:42,327
and you can see it 
coming down my driveway,

616
00:32:42,427 --> 00:32:45,229
which the driveway's a quarter 
of a mile long.

617
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:49,367
I think occasionally, you snuck 
out and taken your pen money

618
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:52,337
that you've been squirreling 
away over all the years.

619
00:32:52,437 --> 00:32:57,141
And a lot - I do.

620
00:32:57,241 --> 00:33:02,146
And bless my husband. 
He understands my

621
00:33:02,246 --> 00:33:05,717
passion with this.

622
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:08,286
I will squirrel some 
money away and there are

623
00:33:08,386 --> 00:33:12,223
a number of the trees in 
the yard I have never

624
00:33:12,323 --> 00:33:15,426
I told him what I paid for them. 
He loves em too.

625
00:33:15,526 --> 00:33:19,897
And now recently I just 
picked up eight new ones

626
00:33:19,997 --> 00:33:23,768
from 
Mr maple in East Flat

627
00:33:23,868 --> 00:33:27,572
Rock in North Carolina. They had 
curbside service. And there were

628
00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,609
some that I was obsessing 
over, but had a wonderful tour

629
00:33:31,709 --> 00:33:36,114
of the Nichols garden. 
But it was just amazing

630
00:33:36,214 --> 00:33:40,451
in the color and leaf shape 
and all like you were saying.

631
00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:44,322
It was one that I saw that 
they called Batwing.

632
00:33:44,422 --> 00:33:48,025
It looks like Batman's cave the 
leaf does. And Barbara, once you

633
00:33:48,126 --> 00:33:50,762
get these established, 
there's not a whole lot

634
00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:56,134
you have to do. Is there? 
No, I mean, I do have -

635
00:33:56,234 --> 00:33:59,003
you know, we're going to periods 
of drought or something

636
00:33:59,103 --> 00:34:02,240
like that. You know I'm really 
careful with making sure.

637
00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:07,078
You don't have to water 
them, you know, a lot,

638
00:34:07,178 --> 00:34:10,581
but you - I do 
watch them closely.

639
00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:14,352
They remove, you know, any 
damaged or dead limbs

640
00:34:14,452 --> 00:34:16,988
that type of thing in them. 
Take care of

641
00:34:17,088 --> 00:34:19,657
them of course 
and fertilize them.

642
00:34:19,757 --> 00:34:22,460
And you know, I didn't 
tell you this but with

643
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,929
Mother Maple, which 
seedlings I have,

644
00:34:25,029 --> 00:34:31,869
I also bonsai them. And so - 
I guess my oldest

645
00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:34,839
bonsai is probably about 
38 or 39

646
00:34:34,939 --> 00:34:38,376
years old. 
Golly. So that's a lot of

647
00:34:38,476 --> 00:34:41,012
fun to take that and do the

648
00:34:41,112 --> 00:34:44,215
bonsai you know also. Like I

649
00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:48,352
tell people, my yard is 
not a garden, is not a

650
00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:51,656
drop dead, you know, 
it's a collector's yard.

651
00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,425
And you know I'm always

652
00:34:54,525 --> 00:34:57,562
adding things to it. 
And just,

653
00:34:57,662 --> 00:35:01,265
there's always 
a new plant out there.

654
00:35:01,365 --> 00:35:04,335
Well, I'm happy to be 
reunited on virtually

655
00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:07,305
without my former office 
mate, Chase Smoak.

656
00:35:07,405 --> 00:35:11,042
Chase is the horticulture agent 
in Sumter County. And Chase

657
00:35:11,142 --> 00:35:14,111
has a real appreciation 
for what he finds in

658
00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:16,614
nature because he grew 
up traveling around on

659
00:35:16,714 --> 00:35:19,450
some beautiful farmland his 
parents have. And Chase,

660
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:21,953
there are some plants that 
you learned about in

661
00:35:22,053 --> 00:35:24,355
nature that you think we 
could bring into our

662
00:35:24,455 --> 00:35:28,493
yard and one of them is one I 
actually grow that's a great

663
00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:31,729
woody. So, let's talk 
about that one.

664
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:36,234
Right! The swamp titi, 
or swamp cyrilla.

665
00:35:36,334 --> 00:35:40,271
This is a gorgeous plant 
that has a great habit.

666
00:35:40,371 --> 00:35:43,107
Kind of gets a contorted 
look to it. And at

667
00:35:43,207 --> 00:35:46,077
the end of the branches has 
these beautiful you know about

668
00:35:46,177 --> 00:35:49,514
six inch long, white 
Racine flowers that come

669
00:35:49,614 --> 00:35:52,517
down that actually have a 
wild life value to them as

670
00:35:52,617 --> 00:35:56,053
well. You said you seen 
pollen butterflies flock to it.

671
00:35:56,153 --> 00:35:59,757
I have seen 
butterflies come to it before

672
00:35:59,857 --> 00:36:02,527
And you know doing a little 
reading on it, they apparently

673
00:36:02,627 --> 00:36:05,563
are a good nectar source for a 
lot of those butterflies.

674
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:08,633
And although it's called 
Swamp titi, mine is

675
00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:12,236
growing just in regular 
garden soil at the edge of

676
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:16,340
pine trees and Chase, the 
leaves, although

677
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,544
they're semi-deciduous but it's 
a very

678
00:36:19,644 --> 00:36:22,513
beautiful green glossy 
leaf most of the year.

679
00:36:22,613 --> 00:36:25,016
And I think you see them 
in the fall and

680
00:36:25,116 --> 00:36:27,118
thought they were real pretty 
too. Yeah, they'll

681
00:36:27,218 --> 00:36:31,155
have a beautiful red to burnt 
orange color that they

682
00:36:31,255 --> 00:36:34,191
get on to them. 
The exfoliating bark

683
00:36:34,292 --> 00:36:36,360
is wonderful too. So, a lot 
of great features

684
00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:40,231
for the landscape. And then I 
think when you were in

685
00:36:40,331 --> 00:36:43,668
the propagation business, 
you enjoyed working with

686
00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:46,003
things that were bulbs or 
rhizomes or things like

687
00:36:46,103 --> 00:36:48,339
that. And we have some 
native representatives

688
00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:50,875
of that, that you think 
we might want to

689
00:36:50,975 --> 00:36:53,578
pay a little more attention to. 
Absolutely, the

690
00:36:53,678 --> 00:36:57,081
first one I want to talk about 
is a blue eyed grass.

691
00:36:57,181 --> 00:36:58,916
Some folks may be 
familiar with

692
00:36:59,016 --> 00:37:01,953
blue eyed grass that shows up in 
their turf grass.

693
00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:03,888
This one's a little bit 
different same

694
00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:06,390
genus, different species. 
So the one that we have

695
00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:09,894
a picture of today is a 
species is Augusta folio.

696
00:37:09,994 --> 00:37:13,197
And the plant gets about 
one foot by one foot in

697
00:37:13,297 --> 00:37:16,434
width and height. And it 
is just covered in these

698
00:37:16,534 --> 00:37:20,471
beautiful gorgeous blue 
flowers. Over time could

699
00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:24,308
you divide this and maybe 
expand the area? You could.

700
00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:28,112
So this is actually 
grows on the bulb and

701
00:37:28,212 --> 00:37:30,247
I have not worked with 
dividing it for

702
00:37:30,348 --> 00:37:32,783
a long time, but it is on a 
bulb.

703
00:37:32,883 --> 00:37:35,886
We know with all things bulbs, 
you can divide them as

704
00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:39,357
they grow. Okay. And then 
there's a sweet little thing

705
00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:41,792
that when you come across it 
just makes your

706
00:37:41,892 --> 00:37:43,427
heart flutter, because 
it's just one

707
00:37:43,527 --> 00:37:46,797
of the dearest little flowers. 
And once again so

708
00:37:46,897 --> 00:37:49,667
exquisite but a true 
native. This is.

709
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,670
This is another plant that is in 
the Iris family and

710
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:57,008
this is the dwarf iris or iris 
verna. And a lot of people

711
00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:59,543
in the Upstate may be 
familiar with iris crista,

712
00:37:59,644 --> 00:38:03,314
which looks very similar. 
Iris verna however has a

713
00:38:03,414 --> 00:38:07,318
very fragrant flower. And 
a lot of

714
00:38:07,418 --> 00:38:09,654
people might say that 
the little small little

715
00:38:09,754 --> 00:38:12,456
on the small side 
six inches but on big

716
00:38:12,556 --> 00:38:15,026
things come in small 
packages sometimes. And it

717
00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:18,596
is a wonderful, wonderful, 
beautiful flower.

718
00:38:18,696 --> 00:38:22,233
This is, one that can take shade 
to some extent.

719
00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:26,203
It can. It can take part sun, 
full shade And it can handle

720
00:38:26,303 --> 00:38:30,975
moist but well drained 
areas and dry areas.

721
00:38:31,075 --> 00:38:34,512
So similar to the 
titi and the blue eyed

722
00:38:34,612 --> 00:38:38,049
grass, it can handle dry 
areas. So it's a pretty

723
00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:41,185
versatile little native 
plant that is just gorgeous.

724
00:38:41,285 --> 00:38:43,988
Well, Chase this is fun. 
And we have a lot

725
00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:46,824
of people now who are 
propagating native plants

726
00:38:46,924 --> 00:38:49,694
in our state and they 
should be rewarded for

727
00:38:49,794 --> 00:38:51,495
their efforts, because 
they're doing ethically

728
00:38:51,595 --> 00:38:54,365
they're not collecting on 
public land. So I think

729
00:38:54,465 --> 00:38:56,701
it's good to look them up 
and try

730
00:38:56,801 --> 00:38:59,270
to keep them in business. What 
do you think? Certainly.

731
00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:01,639
A lot of times whenever 
you go out on

732
00:39:01,739 --> 00:39:04,809
the public land, it is legal to 
go out there and you

733
00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:07,311
know tamper with any type of 
plant material.

734
00:39:07,411 --> 00:39:09,947
So, go through the proper chains 
and a lot of

735
00:39:10,047 --> 00:39:12,450
these people working really hard 
in some of them even

736
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:14,652
help ensure that some of these 
endangered populations.

737
00:39:14,752 --> 00:39:16,554
That we can go out and look

738
00:39:16,654 --> 00:39:19,156
at in the wild are going to be 
there for

739
00:39:19,256 --> 00:39:21,092
our children and grandchildren. 
So let's make sure

740
00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:23,794
that we support these are people 
doing the right thing.

741
00:39:23,894 --> 00:39:25,696
Well, I think this is pretty 
important advice.

742
00:39:25,796 --> 00:39:27,631
Thank you for taking time to 
talk to us.

743
00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:30,668
Thank you so much, Amanda. 
Well now we're going to

744
00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:34,071
Aiken and visit with 
our great friend Vicky

745
00:39:34,171 --> 00:39:37,174
Bertagnolli. Vicky, we're 
missing you terribly.

746
00:39:37,274 --> 00:39:40,811
I know and I miss you guys 
too. My mother said I

747
00:39:40,911 --> 00:39:43,981
miss you so much, it's like I'm 
missing one of my front teeth.

748
00:39:44,081 --> 00:39:46,283
That's a great -

749
00:39:46,383 --> 00:39:48,419
You definitely notice when 
those are missing.

750
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:52,590
Yeah but Vicky, you- we think of 
you as being our

751
00:39:52,690 --> 00:39:56,894
bud gal and of 
course you do that for us.

752
00:39:56,994 --> 00:40:00,831
But you had some pretty exciting 
bird activity. Tell us

753
00:40:00,931 --> 00:40:04,835
what the world happened. I 
did so, I've got a great

754
00:40:04,935 --> 00:40:06,971
piece of property that I 
live on I

755
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:11,542
live in a wooded neighborhood. 
The lots are very large,

756
00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:14,211
not very large, they're 
large. They're a little

757
00:40:14,311 --> 00:40:18,582
over an acre and my lot has oak 
trees in it. It's got

758
00:40:18,682 --> 00:40:22,219
hickory trees and it has 
pine trees in it. So, I've

759
00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:25,523
got a pretty healthy 
population of wild birds

760
00:40:25,623 --> 00:40:28,159
out there. And I was 
eating lunch outside

761
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:33,898
yesterday and I heard a 
lot of squawking going on.

762
00:40:33,998 --> 00:40:39,003
And there was a hub bub going 
on and I looked over and

763
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:42,206
a bluebird box that I 
have mounted on a hickory

764
00:40:42,306 --> 00:40:46,644
tree had fallen over. 
And asked all the mom on

765
00:40:46,744 --> 00:40:50,247
the ground trying to get 
to the babies in the

766
00:40:50,347 --> 00:40:52,716
nesting box. I didn't 
know what the bird was

767
00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:56,120
at the time. So I ran over 
there and picked up the

768
00:40:56,220 --> 00:41:00,658
box and I have in my 
bluebird box are not blue

769
00:41:00,758 --> 00:41:05,029
birds. They're great 
crested flycatchers, which

770
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:09,466
is actually a pretty neat 
thing to have.

771
00:41:09,567 --> 00:41:13,537
And there was four 
babies in an egg and a

772
00:41:13,637 --> 00:41:17,141
very unhappy mama up in 
the tree.

773
00:41:17,241 --> 00:41:20,978
Vicky, did something enlarge 
the hole? Is that why

774
00:41:21,078 --> 00:41:23,747
the blue birds didn't use 
it? Is that sometimes what

775
00:41:23,848 --> 00:41:27,718
happens with bluebird 
houses? So a lot of times

776
00:41:27,818 --> 00:41:30,788
you'll have eastern gray 
squirrels. You'll have

777
00:41:30,888 --> 00:41:34,158
flying squirrel and 
they'll come in and they'll

778
00:41:34,258 --> 00:41:37,461
widen the opening, 
sometimes even rats, will

779
00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:40,130
widen the openings on 
these on these boxes

780
00:41:40,231 --> 00:41:43,033
which makes it where the 
bluebirds don't want to

781
00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:46,971
nest in them, but that 
opens an opportunity for

782
00:41:47,071 --> 00:41:49,773
something else to nest in 
it.

783
00:41:49,874 --> 00:41:52,309
Historically, in that 
particular box we had

784
00:41:52,409 --> 00:41:57,515
flying squirrels 
and but this year we've I

785
00:41:57,615 --> 00:42:00,451
found out that we've got 
great crested flycatchers.

786
00:42:00,551 --> 00:42:03,621
Well were the babies okay? 
Tell me what you did.

787
00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:09,493
The babies were okay. 
Whenever, I got to the box

788
00:42:09,593 --> 00:42:12,529
there were three babies 
out of the box, one baby

789
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:14,431
in the box and then there

790
00:42:14,531 --> 00:42:17,835
was an egg on the ground also. 
It was unbroken.

791
00:42:17,935 --> 00:42:20,404
But whenever I picked up 
the babies, they all

792
00:42:20,504 --> 00:42:23,540
have pin feathers. So, 
they'll probably I guess

793
00:42:23,641 --> 00:42:27,678
the fledge em in maybe a 
another week or so.

794
00:42:27,778 --> 00:42:31,882
But everybody was unhurt. 
So I put everybody back

795
00:42:31,982 --> 00:42:36,120
into the nest box and re- 
attached the nest box back

796
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:41,725
to the tree. And the mama 
was raising - She was -

797
00:42:41,825 --> 00:42:46,230
very close and 
very unhappy. But then she

798
00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:49,700
settled back in. She did 
as soon as we put the box

799
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,038
back up and walked away, 
on my way back from

800
00:42:54,138 --> 00:42:56,006
walking I had turned 
around that she

801
00:42:56,106 --> 00:42:58,575
was already in the box. You 
said there was

802
00:42:58,676 --> 00:43:02,479
some something pretty peculiar 
in that nest. So great

803
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:06,817
nested fly catchers 
incorporate a lot of

804
00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:08,819
things into their nesting 
material. They'll get

805
00:43:08,919 --> 00:43:12,790
grasses. They'll get leaves. 
This one and they're

806
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:16,727
known for this 
has a piece of snake skin

807
00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:19,930
in there. 
So, when I originally when

808
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:22,566
I took the lid off the box

809
00:43:22,666 --> 00:43:24,635
to put the babies back in 
because

810
00:43:24,735 --> 00:43:27,237
I couldn't stuff em' back 
through the hole.

811
00:43:27,338 --> 00:43:31,175
I kinda - It 
surprised me because

812
00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:33,277
typically when you find 
the skin in there,

813
00:43:33,377 --> 00:43:36,613
that's not a good thing. And fly 
catchers actually

814
00:43:36,714 --> 00:43:39,850
incorporate that in there. 
It's a normal thing.

815
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:43,954
They'll gather bits of 
cloth. They'll gather a

816
00:43:44,054 --> 00:43:48,859
little strip of plastic, a 
tie, a ribbon, string and

817
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:50,728
they'll incorporate that 
stuff into their nesting

818
00:43:50,828 --> 00:43:54,732
material. It's one of 
their - it's one of their

819
00:43:54,832 --> 00:43:58,102
normal diagnostic 
characteristics. It was it

820
00:43:58,202 --> 00:44:00,838
was a neat thing. 
A friend of mine says he's

821
00:44:00,938 --> 00:44:03,273
been in the Beidler 
forest and it down there

822
00:44:03,374 --> 00:44:07,845
in the forest they go 
weap, weap, weap, all day long

823
00:44:07,945 --> 00:44:10,914
so it's a pretty vocal kind of 
bird to have around.

824
00:44:11,015 --> 00:44:14,485
It's wonderful. This is a great 
bird to learn a call for.

825
00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:18,689
They've got a dawn call. And 
then there's all day long.

826
00:44:18,789 --> 00:44:22,860
And when the males are ready 
to, it's breeding

827
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,096
season, a lot of times 
your birds have little

828
00:44:26,196 --> 00:44:28,265
short calls and they'll 
the call all day.

829
00:44:28,365 --> 00:44:31,869
But the male will go on these 
jags where they'll be going

830
00:44:31,969 --> 00:44:35,406
15 up to 30 
minutes

831
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:39,610
just continuous calling. 
So it's really great once

832
00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:42,846
I figured out what it was 
I was like oh I hear

833
00:44:42,946 --> 00:44:46,617
that bird all the time. Well 
you know I'm sorry we're

834
00:44:46,717 --> 00:44:48,852
all having to work from 
home and remotely,

835
00:44:48,952 --> 00:44:51,755
but in this case it sure had a 
happy ending for

836
00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:54,358
those birds and thanks to 
telling us that story.

837
00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:56,693
It was lucky for me 
that when we are home

838
00:44:56,794 --> 00:44:59,663
because I got to eat lunch 
outside not save some wildlife.

839
00:44:59,763 --> 00:45:01,231
It was great.

840
00:45:01,331 --> 00:45:02,666
And now we're gonna go

841
00:45:02,766 --> 00:45:05,335
to Darlington county. 
All of y'all have been waiting

842
00:45:05,436 --> 00:45:08,705
for us wondering where in 
the heck is Tony Melton.

843
00:45:08,806 --> 00:45:11,575
But he's right at home 
with his unusual house he

844
00:45:11,675 --> 00:45:14,011
built it all by himself 
up in Darlington county

845
00:45:14,111 --> 00:45:16,647
And Tony you've got some 
interesting fruits there,

846
00:45:16,747 --> 00:45:20,484
including a very unusual 
fig. That's right, Amanda.

847
00:45:20,584 --> 00:45:24,221
I'm kind of a fruity anyway. I'm 
fruity and nutty, so

848
00:45:24,321 --> 00:45:27,191
I really fit in with my 
house. My house is very

849
00:45:27,291 --> 00:45:31,462
unusual and weird is what 
I call it, but my

850
00:45:31,562 --> 00:45:35,232
wife loves it. As long as 
that happens, I'm okay, Amanda.

851
00:45:35,332 --> 00:45:39,503
That's right. Keep, we want 
Mitzi to be happy. Well,

852
00:45:39,603 --> 00:45:42,606
tell me about this 
unusual fruit, fig tree

853
00:45:42,706 --> 00:45:45,409
that you have. Yeah a 
friend of mine got em'

854
00:45:45,509 --> 00:45:48,745
in from California. There's a 
lot of California fig. You can

855
00:45:48,846 --> 00:45:52,549
actually go on a website and 
see. There's lots. I don't

856
00:45:52,649 --> 00:45:54,852
remember exactly how many, about 
a hundred different

857
00:45:54,952 --> 00:45:57,588
California figs because 
they really do grow a lot

858
00:45:57,688 --> 00:46:01,125
of figs out there. A lot 
of them do well here.

859
00:46:01,225 --> 00:46:04,695
One I have is Black Ischia. 
Now, I don't know how to

860
00:46:04,795 --> 00:46:07,598
spell that. That's pretty 
tough to spell. But it is

861
00:46:07,698 --> 00:46:12,536
a huge fig. It is very big 
and it's almost as big of

862
00:46:12,636 --> 00:46:16,740
my fist. Goodness. 
And it does not need a wasp

863
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,311
pollinator, is that correct? 
No it does not, it pollinates

864
00:46:21,411 --> 00:46:24,047
itself, and 
it is actually not as

865
00:46:24,148 --> 00:46:26,416
sweet as the brown 
turkey or celeste.

866
00:46:26,517 --> 00:46:29,153
They're not really highly 
sweet. So I can eat them

867
00:46:29,253 --> 00:46:33,056
a little bit with my 
diabetes. Okay, so that

868
00:46:33,157 --> 00:46:35,459
would be a good thing for 
people to know about.

869
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,462
They could grow them too. And 
you said, you had fewer

870
00:46:38,562 --> 00:46:40,998
bird and insect 
problems with this one

871
00:46:41,098 --> 00:46:43,400
maybe because it's not so 
sweet you're thinking.

872
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,538
Yeah it doesn't draw them 
in as much. You don't

873
00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:49,807
smell them you know. Usually 
you go around a

874
00:46:49,907 --> 00:46:53,310
brown turkey, you smell those, 
that fruit and all

875
00:46:53,410 --> 00:46:58,715
insects and birds. And this 
doesn't do that.

876
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:03,086
And then you've got 
another, persimmon that

877
00:47:03,187 --> 00:47:06,957
is of an Asian variety 
and let's talk about what

878
00:47:07,057 --> 00:47:10,527
makes that one so special 
Tony. Yes it is a non

879
00:47:10,627 --> 00:47:13,430
astringent one, which means it 
doesn't turn your mouth

880
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:16,200
inside out.

881
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:19,336
And I know my brother and 
sister used to like to

882
00:47:19,436 --> 00:47:23,807
trick me to eat a persimmon that

883
00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:28,111
would be so bitter and all. 
Yeah. And but this one

884
00:47:28,212 --> 00:47:32,115
doesn't. And you can eat 
it halfway ripe.

885
00:47:32,216 --> 00:47:35,152
And it's actually crisp 
like an apple.

886
00:47:35,252 --> 00:47:37,688
I like then just as good or 
better than it'll

887
00:47:37,788 --> 00:47:39,723
take place in an apple in the

888
00:47:39,823 --> 00:47:42,726
Low country of South Carolina. I 
know I grow em' too and

889
00:47:42,826 --> 00:47:44,895
I just love em' Tony because, 
you could

890
00:47:44,995 --> 00:47:48,532
eat it when it's crisp. And it 
doesn't need a pollinator.

891
00:47:48,632 --> 00:47:52,202
unlike ours, which is, you 
know has male and females.

892
00:47:52,302 --> 00:47:56,039
This one has both flowers 
on the same one.

893
00:47:56,139 --> 00:47:57,641
And you don't have all 
the problems

894
00:47:57,741 --> 00:47:59,576
you have if you try to grow an

895
00:47:59,676 --> 00:48:02,446
apple down in our part of the 
state. Do you? That's right.

896
00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:05,816
That's right. Apples are tough 
to grow in our part of the

897
00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:10,320
state. Really hard. Persimmon is 
delicious. It is. I love em.

898
00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:13,724
And so, I got two big trees. 
They start to

899
00:48:13,824 --> 00:48:16,793
get big. It takes a little 
while because they have

900
00:48:16,894 --> 00:48:20,530
so many good almost fist size 
fruit on em.

901
00:48:20,631 --> 00:48:24,301
It takes a while for them to 
grow, Amanda. And then Tony,

902
00:48:24,401 --> 00:48:28,472
you do have one pear tree and it 
is one that

903
00:48:28,572 --> 00:48:31,642
has some problems in our 
part of the state. Is it

904
00:48:31,742 --> 00:48:35,879
an Asian pear. Asian, oriental. 
A lot of people call

905
00:48:35,979 --> 00:48:39,983
them by different common names, 
but they're really good,

906
00:48:40,083 --> 00:48:41,852
really good pears. 
Really juicier than all

907
00:48:41,952 --> 00:48:47,824
pears. And they have such 
bad fire blight.

908
00:48:47,924 --> 00:48:50,193
And this one I got is a

909
00:48:50,294 --> 00:48:54,031
Pashia. It 
does have fire blight.

910
00:48:54,131 --> 00:48:57,634
And I'm gonna kind of show 
you here in a minute

911
00:48:57,734 --> 00:49:01,538
how to prune it out. 
I don't like to spray too much.

912
00:49:01,638 --> 00:49:05,475
You can spray the streptomycin 
or agromycin

913
00:49:05,575 --> 00:49:09,379
onto the tree to try to 
keep down the fire blight.

914
00:49:09,479 --> 00:49:11,381
What I do is I just 
prune

915
00:49:11,481 --> 00:49:15,886
back a little bit beyond the 
fire blight.

916
00:49:15,986 --> 00:49:18,789
And its good cropping. Yeah 
well, you

917
00:49:18,889 --> 00:49:21,825
still get, you still 
get the pears. Yeah my

918
00:49:21,925 --> 00:49:24,394
trees are twenty feet 
tall.

919
00:49:24,494 --> 00:49:27,831
Yeah okay and then I 
think the last thing we

920
00:49:27,931 --> 00:49:31,435
were going to talk about 
was a big old fat

921
00:49:31,535 --> 00:49:35,305
blueberry. I love my 
titans. Yeah. It's titan and I

922
00:49:35,405 --> 00:49:38,175
reckon, that's just 
a name for something big.

923
00:49:38,275 --> 00:49:41,278
But, Titan is almost as 
big as the end of my thumb.

924
00:49:41,378 --> 00:49:44,448
And I've got some 
nice blueberries out there

925
00:49:44,548 --> 00:49:48,318
now. Yeah, I do have 
squirrels. Squirrels love

926
00:49:48,418 --> 00:49:51,888
to come eat those too. And 
my pears and I tell my

927
00:49:51,988 --> 00:49:54,891
father in law, he's 
a big squirrel. He comes and

928
00:49:54,991 --> 00:49:58,762
loves to eat my blueberries too. 
But they are great

929
00:49:58,862 --> 00:50:01,064
and they really do bear, 
even though it takes a

930
00:50:01,164 --> 00:50:04,968
long time to get fruit 
onto a blueberry plant, because

931
00:50:05,068 --> 00:50:08,305
you know 
it takes, they're

932
00:50:08,405 --> 00:50:13,477
slow as grand mama. Takes a 
while to grow. And they

933
00:50:13,577 --> 00:50:17,114
have to get tall. It takes 
years. So, don't be impatient

934
00:50:17,214 --> 00:50:19,649
with blueberries. 
Whenever you get a good

935
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:22,853
sized plant they'll 
really be produceful. And Tony,

936
00:50:22,953 --> 00:50:25,622
you said this is a rabbit eye, 
so it's designed to

937
00:50:25,722 --> 00:50:28,725
go in our part of the 
world. And I think you've

938
00:50:28,825 --> 00:50:32,262
got a pollinator that 
is doing just fine. We

939
00:50:32,362 --> 00:50:35,198
have to do that, but 
you'll have something

940
00:50:35,298 --> 00:50:37,401
that you could enjoy for 
your grandchildren and

941
00:50:37,501 --> 00:50:40,070
for many, many years to 
come. And that's another

942
00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:44,908
thing you can eat is berries. 
You can have a berries on

943
00:50:45,008 --> 00:50:47,444
kind of the Keto diet or 
whatever, you know.

944
00:50:47,544 --> 00:50:51,381
Sure. The diet for 
diabetes. People can eat

945
00:50:51,481 --> 00:50:55,419
berries. And they're really 
good.

946
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:57,754
Well, Tony I want to 
thank you for giving

947
00:50:57,854 --> 00:51:00,390
us more ideas about 
backyard fruits that we

948
00:51:00,490 --> 00:51:03,460
could have and 
enjoy without having to

949
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,663
spray them every time we 
turn around. And some of

950
00:51:06,763 --> 00:51:08,899
them are even good for people 
who are trying to

951
00:51:08,999 --> 00:51:11,401
watch their sugar. Thank you so 
much for sharing all this

952
00:51:11,501 --> 00:51:13,670
information with us. We 
really do appreciate it.

953
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:18,275
Thank you, Miss Amanda. 
Appreciate you having me on.

954
00:51:18,375 --> 00:51:21,244
Well, Tony I'm glad you don't 
have a deer fence because

955
00:51:21,344 --> 00:51:23,447
I might have to come out 
over there one afternoon

956
00:51:23,547 --> 00:51:26,082
and sneak around to get 
some of those delicious

957
00:51:26,183 --> 00:51:28,018
fruits that you're 
growing at home. Well, for

958
00:51:28,118 --> 00:51:30,120
my show and tell, I'm gonna 
show you how

959
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:33,390
to make a hat. If I'd known 
twenty years ago that I'd

960
00:51:33,490 --> 00:51:35,725
have to lie awake in bed 
saying what in the world

961
00:51:35,826 --> 00:51:37,627
am I gonna put on my hair 
tomorrow,

962
00:51:37,727 --> 00:51:39,930
I don't know if I would have 
started. But I did.

963
00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:43,467
So let's learn how to do it. I 
go and get some of this

964
00:51:43,567 --> 00:51:45,902
wire that's covered with 
raffia and I cut a

965
00:51:46,002 --> 00:51:49,506
piece. And I put it 
around my head. I don't want

966
00:51:49,606 --> 00:51:52,843
it too tight, but I don't want 
it too loose either. And so you

967
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:57,247
just twine that up. 
And I have some cheap

968
00:51:57,347 --> 00:52:01,117
cheap, cheap pruners 
that I use because all

969
00:52:01,218 --> 00:52:04,221
this wire just ruins them. 
So don't use your

970
00:52:04,321 --> 00:52:06,022
good pruners if you 
decide you want to

971
00:52:06,122 --> 00:52:08,525
do this. Okay then. The 
first thing that you got

972
00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:10,594
to get is all this 
plant material to go out

973
00:52:10,694 --> 00:52:12,462
in the garden and see 
what you can get

974
00:52:12,562 --> 00:52:14,664
or you stop on the side of the 
road and

975
00:52:14,764 --> 00:52:17,567
then you have to start cleaning 
it up because, you have to

976
00:52:17,667 --> 00:52:19,436
take all the leaves and things 
off. Because there's

977
00:52:19,536 --> 00:52:22,005
just not room for that. So you 
might wanna leave a few.

978
00:52:22,105 --> 00:52:24,040
I've already gone 
ahead and done that on a

979
00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:28,545
lot of these. And 
when I do this, when I

980
00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:30,547
do at the station normally, I 
bring it over

981
00:52:30,647 --> 00:52:34,317
and I have to get it in and try 
to keep everything cool

982
00:52:34,417 --> 00:52:36,620
because you know these 
are these are the kind of

983
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,989
flowers that last long 
outside of water. Then I

984
00:52:39,089 --> 00:52:42,559
just kind of start. I always 
start in this direction

985
00:52:42,659 --> 00:52:45,061
and work that way. I don't 
know that's just how I do.

986
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:48,031
And I've got this 
beautiful Crinum.

987
00:52:48,131 --> 00:52:50,901
Probably Jenks farmer 
gave it to me and so I'm

988
00:52:51,001 --> 00:52:54,604
going to cut the stem down. And 
this is really too much.

989
00:52:54,704 --> 00:52:57,073
So a lot of times you 
have to cut the plant

990
00:52:57,173 --> 00:53:00,377
material down. This piece 
is kind of old and so I'm

991
00:53:00,477 --> 00:53:03,480
going to take that down. 
And then

992
00:53:03,580 --> 00:53:06,383
I don't wanna be quite 
that much on the bottom.

993
00:53:06,483 --> 00:53:08,552
And I've got lots of 
different kinds of wire.

994
00:53:08,652 --> 00:53:11,288
I've got real thick wire 
and then our water and

995
00:53:11,388 --> 00:53:13,790
I've also got this sticky 
tape I think I used sticky

996
00:53:13,890 --> 00:53:16,126
tape for this. When you use 
sticky tape, there's a

997
00:53:16,226 --> 00:53:18,461
real trick you have to 
not let it get on your

998
00:53:18,562 --> 00:53:20,764
lip or it will pull your lip 
off.

999
00:53:20,864 --> 00:53:23,800
So, you have just use your 
teeth. Be like a Hollywood

1000
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:26,102
movie star. So I'm 
doing something to wrap

1001
00:53:26,202 --> 00:53:29,539
that up and wrap those 
together.

1002
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:33,310
And then I'm going to let 
that be the first thing

1003
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:39,115
on my hat. And I will 
use some more of that

1004
00:53:39,215 --> 00:53:40,984
sticky tape for that.

1005
00:53:48,625 --> 00:53:52,896
Here we go. We have a start.

1006
00:53:52,996 --> 00:53:55,699
I have some garden phlox 
that I thought were

1007
00:53:55,799 --> 00:53:58,568
really pretty and I think 
that those colors of mix

1008
00:53:58,668 --> 00:54:01,238
in nicely so I'm going to 
touch them kind of under

1009
00:54:01,338 --> 00:54:04,274
it against the stamps 
this time I'm going to

1010
00:54:04,374 --> 00:54:08,445
use some lawyer and this 
is kind of a film wire

1011
00:54:08,545 --> 00:54:11,448
because these aren't too 
hard the stems are kind

1012
00:54:11,548 --> 00:54:13,917
of small it's not going 
to take too much strength

1013
00:54:14,017 --> 00:54:17,954
to hold them on so put 
them on and then I've got

1014
00:54:18,054 --> 00:54:21,758
this beautiful hydrangea 
paniculata. I think

1015
00:54:21,858 --> 00:54:25,295
this is grandiflora. I 
have several of those and

1016
00:54:25,395 --> 00:54:28,598
I think I'm going to make 
this one a little small

1017
00:54:28,698 --> 00:54:30,734
you have to tear flowers 
up a lot because they

1018
00:54:30,834 --> 00:54:32,335
don't always nature 
doesn't make him the

1019
00:54:32,435 --> 00:54:35,772
right size for hats. And 
once again we'll get this

1020
00:54:35,872 --> 00:54:38,508
heavier wire now because 
I've got a good many

1021
00:54:38,608 --> 00:54:41,344
stems I'm trying to put 
together.

1022
00:54:43,279 --> 00:54:48,018
So twist that around. 
Okay we've got a start.

1023
00:54:48,118 --> 00:54:50,153
And then I've got some 
nice blue I thought we'd

1024
00:54:50,253 --> 00:54:53,323
add some of that. And when 
you do flowers look at

1025
00:54:53,423 --> 00:54:56,926
these hydrangeas. You can 
go in and pull some of

1026
00:54:57,027 --> 00:54:59,829
the bad parts out. And as 
you see, it takes a while

1027
00:54:59,929 --> 00:55:01,831
to make hats I'm just 
going to keep on

1028
00:55:01,931 --> 00:55:03,800
working and then you 
could see the finished

1029
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:05,335
product in just a minute.

1030
00:55:05,435 --> 00:55:35,398
♪

1031
00:55:38,034 --> 00:55:39,002
Well, that was a pretty

1032
00:55:39,102 --> 00:55:41,604
fast way to make a hat. 
If I don't wear one

1033
00:55:41,705 --> 00:55:44,841
on a show, now you know 
why. I want to thank

1034
00:55:44,941 --> 00:55:46,743
everybody who 
participated in our show

1035
00:55:46,843 --> 00:55:48,978
and tell. I know you all 
enjoyed getting to know

1036
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:52,482
some of our other agents 
and seeing how

1037
00:55:52,582 --> 00:55:54,884
diverse their knowledge is 
and we want to thank you

1038
00:55:54,984 --> 00:55:57,253
all for being our 
friends and sticking

1039
00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:59,656
with us through these 
hard times. We love being

1040
00:55:59,756 --> 00:56:01,491
with you. See you next week.

1041
00:56:01,591 --> 00:56:11,234
♪

1042
00:56:13,169 --> 00:56:14,437
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1043
00:56:14,537 --> 00:56:17,173
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1044
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1046
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1048
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