1 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:16,267 SUPPORT FOR THIS PROGRAM IS PROVIDE BY THE FOUNDATION FOR 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,933 EX-LENGTHS IN LOUISIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND FROM VIEWERS 3 00:00:19,067 --> 00:00:45,367 LIKE YOU. HELLO AND WELCOME TO "LOUISIANA 4 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:48,533 PUBLIC SQUARE." I'M BELT COURTNEY. 5 00:00:48,667 --> 00:00:52,167 JOINING US TO EXPLORE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM IN LOUISIANA IS 6 00:00:52,300 --> 00:00:59,733 BOB MANN, A PROFESSOR AT MANSHIP COOL OF EDUCATION. 7 00:00:59,867 --> 00:01:02,933 WELL, WE'VE HEARD THE STATISTICS. 8 00:01:03,067 --> 00:01:06,967 LOUISIANA'S PRISON RATE IS THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY. 9 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:10,533 WE ARE THE INCARCERATION CAPITOL OF THE WORLD. 10 00:01:10,667 --> 00:01:15,533 ONE-THIRD OF THOUGH RELEASED ENDS UP BACK BEHIND BARS WITHIN 11 00:01:15,667 --> 00:01:21,967 THREE YEARS. FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AN 12 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:24,833 UNLIKELY GROUP OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN WORKING TO REFORM THE 13 00:01:24,967 --> 00:01:30,300 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. THE GOVERNOR MADE PRISON REFORM 14 00:01:30,433 --> 00:01:33,700 PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN AND HE IS PUSHING FORWARD A COMPREHENSIVE 15 00:01:33,833 --> 00:01:37,733 OVERHAUL OF HOW WE ADDRESS OFFENDERS. 16 00:01:37,867 --> 00:01:40,767 TONIGHT WE LOOK TAILLIGHT PROPOSALS AND LOOK AT THE BEST 17 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:43,967 WAYS FOR REFORMING CRIMINAL JUSTICE. 18 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:48,000 LAST WEEK GOVERNOR EDWARDS CELEBRATED A SIGNIFICANT 19 00:01:48,133 --> 00:01:53,300 VICTORY? WHAT IS BEEN OVERALL A 20 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:56,667 DISAPPOINTING LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOR HIM. 21 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,033 HE ANNOUNCE AN AGREEMENT ON HIS REFORM PACKAGE. 22 00:02:00,167 --> 00:02:04,300 THIS PACKAGE CONTAINS SMART AGGRESSIVE REFORMS THAT WILL 23 00:02:04,433 --> 00:02:09,200 IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR CRIMINAL 24 00:02:09,333 --> 00:02:11,933 BEHAVIOR AND REDUCE THE STATE PRISON POPULATION BY AT LEAST 25 00:02:12,067 --> 00:02:13,667 TEN PERCENT OVER THE NEXT DECADE. 26 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:20,933 THE GUN VIOLENCE NOR'S PROPOSALS ARE BASED ON OVER 20 27 00:02:21,067 --> 00:02:22,600 RECOMMENDATIONS. THE TATSING FORCE STUDIED THE 28 00:02:22,733 --> 00:02:25,900 ISSUE FOR OVER A YEAR AND RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM A BROAD 29 00:02:26,033 --> 00:02:29,933 COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS. IN MY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS OF 30 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:33,033 WORKING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE POLICY ARENA I'VE NEVER SEEN 31 00:02:33,167 --> 00:02:36,400 SUCH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND CALL FOR REFORM FROM THE LEFT TO THE 32 00:02:36,533 --> 00:02:40,867 RIGHT TO THE MODERATE SIDE. NATALIE LEBOARD IS THE DEPUTY 33 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,533 ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF POLICY AND RESEARCH FOR THE DEPARTMENT 34 00:02:43,667 --> 00:02:46,133 OF CORRECTIONS. SHE SAYS WHILE THE STATE'S 35 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:49,567 INMATE POPULATION HAS DROPPED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO 36 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:52,767 37,000 INMATES IT HAS REACHED A PLATEAU. 37 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:55,900 THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT IF NO CHANGESES ARE MADE THAT 38 00:02:56,033 --> 00:03:00,100 REDUCTION WOULD LEVEL OFF. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT PACKAGE 39 00:03:00,233 --> 00:03:02,333 IS ABOUT. IS IDENTIFYING THOSE DRIVERS 40 00:03:02,467 --> 00:03:07,600 THAT HELP TO REDUCE THE POPULATION AND REINVESTING MORE 41 00:03:07,733 --> 00:03:09,500 DOLLARS INTO THOSE PROGRAMS WE HAVE SEEN WORK. 42 00:03:09,633 --> 00:03:16,900 ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS IS THE RATE OF NON-VIOLENT OFFENDERS. 43 00:03:17,033 --> 00:03:22,767 THE LOUISIANA TASK FORCE SENDSES PEOPLE TO PRISON FOR NON-VIOLENT 44 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:27,933 OFFENSE AT ONE AND A HALF TIMES OTHER STATES. 45 00:03:28,067 --> 00:03:30,433 THE POPULATION WERE ALL NONVIOLENT OFFENSE WITH DRUG 46 00:03:30,567 --> 00:03:38,333 POSSESSION TOPPING THE LIST. IN COMPARISON TO THE NATIONAL 47 00:03:38,467 --> 00:03:46,833 AVERAGE WE INCARCERATE PEOPLE MORE AND THEY HAVE LONGER 48 00:03:46,967 --> 00:03:51,967 SENTENCES AND AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PROGRAM WAS TO SYNTHESIZE 49 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:55,867 THE PENALTIES. THE PROPOSAL WOULD HAVE TAKEN 50 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,300 LOUISIANA'S MORE THAN 600 INDIVIDUAL FELONY CRIME 51 00:03:59,433 --> 00:04:05,167 PENALTIES AND REDUCED THEM INTO SEVEN CLASSES. 52 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:10,067 THE PROPOSAL WILL NOW BE STUDIED BY A TASK FORCE WITH 53 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,967 RECOMMENDATIONS DUE BY 2018. IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA I THINK 54 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:17,233 THIS TASK FORCE MADE UP OF PRACTITIONERS, PEOPLE WHO 55 00:04:17,367 --> 00:04:20,300 ACTUALLY GO INTO COURT AND USE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, I 56 00:04:20,433 --> 00:04:23,500 THINK THIS TASK FORCE WILL RECOGNIZE THAT AND MAKE A 57 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:27,000 RECOMMENDATION AND DO THAT. IF IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, I 58 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:31,900 EXPECT THAT THEY'LL COME BACK AND RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT DO 59 00:04:32,033 --> 00:04:35,433 THAT. PETE ADAMS IS THE THE 60 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:37,133 DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISIANA DISTRICT ATTORNEY AGENCY 61 00:04:37,267 --> 00:04:39,467 ASSOCIATION. HE AT THE SCENE LOUISIANA'S 62 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,933 INCARCERATION PROBLEM IS NOT ITS SENTENCING STRUCTURE BUT ISSUES 63 00:04:43,067 --> 00:04:45,633 WITH REHABILITATION AND RECIDIVISM. 64 00:04:45,767 --> 00:04:49,000 HE ALSO FEELS THE NONVIOLENT OFFENDER DATA USED BY THE 65 00:04:49,133 --> 00:04:51,233 REINVESTMENT TASK FORCE CAN BE MISLEADING. 66 00:04:51,367 --> 00:04:53,900 MAYBE THE IT'S A SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIM THAT DOESN'T WANT 67 00:04:54,033 --> 00:04:56,600 TO GO TO COURT AND TESTIFY. THEY'RE AFRAID. 68 00:04:56,733 --> 00:05:01,400 IF WE CAN PUT THAT PERSON, THAT SAME PERSON AWAY FOR 69 00:05:01,533 --> 00:05:05,200 DISTRIBUTION OF COCAINE AND PUT HIM AWAY FOR 20 YEARS OR 25 70 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:08,033 YEARS SOMETIMES THE VERY WELL SAY I WOULD RATHER YOU DO THAT. 71 00:05:08,167 --> 00:05:10,300 THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS. 72 00:05:10,433 --> 00:05:13,600 I DON'T HAVE TO GO PUBLIC WITH THANKFUL AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENS, 73 00:05:13,733 --> 00:05:19,033 THAT PERSON IS IN ANGOLA AS A NONVIOLENT OFFENDER. 74 00:05:19,167 --> 00:05:23,400 SO THOSE LABELS DON'T ALWAYS ADEQUATELY DESCRIBE THE 75 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:26,833 OFFENDERS. THE COMPROMISE LEGISLATION 76 00:05:26,967 --> 00:05:31,100 DOES INCLUDE SEVERAL SENTENCING REFORM MEASURES ELIMINATING 77 00:05:31,233 --> 00:05:34,600 MANDATORY MINIMUMS, BRINGING STATE LAWS CONSIDER DRUG AND 78 00:05:34,733 --> 00:05:39,500 PROPERTY CRIMES IN LINE WITH OTHER STATES REDUCING HABITUAL 79 00:05:39,633 --> 00:05:45,067 OFFENDERS PENALTIES AND ELIMINATING LIFE SENTENCES FOR 80 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,567 REPEAT NONVIOLENT CRIMES. TO BRING STATE PROSECUTORS ON 81 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:56,267 BOARD THE GOVERNOR ALSO ALLOWED THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE FOR 82 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,767 GERIATRIC PRISONERS. ONLY DO LOUISIANA AND 83 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:09,900 MISSISSIPPI MANDATE LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE FOR SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. 84 00:06:10,033 --> 00:06:15,767 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BASE LAWS ON THE WAY WE 85 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,033 FEEL. NORRIS HENDERSON IS EXECUTIVE 86 00:06:19,167 --> 00:06:24,100 DIRECTOR OF VOICE OF THE EXPERIENCED WHICH WORKS WITH 87 00:06:24,233 --> 00:06:30,167 FORMER INMATES. HE SAYS RESEARCH SHOWS OLDER 88 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:33,700 INMATES POSE A LOWER RISK OF RECIDIVISM. 89 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:36,800 THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE PACKAGE IS ABOUT IS ABOUT 90 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:39,667 CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO COME AND PRESENT THEMSELVES 91 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,300 AND SAY, HEY, HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW. 92 00:06:43,433 --> 00:06:47,533 LOOK WHAT I'VE DONE LATELY. IT'S ESTIMATED THE COMPROMISE 93 00:06:47,667 --> 00:06:51,033 LEGISLATION WILL SAVE $262 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 94 00:06:51,167 --> 00:06:53,633 DECADE. 70 PERCENT OF THAT, 184 MILLION 95 00:06:53,767 --> 00:07:00,233 WILL BE INVESTED INTO EXPANDING PRISON ALTERNATIVES AT THE FRONT 96 00:07:00,367 --> 00:07:04,500 END LIKE DRUG COURTS. OF THE 17,000 INMATE RELEASED AN 97 00:07:04,633 --> 00:07:07,300 YOU MEANLY 13,000 COME FROM LOCAL PRISONS. 98 00:07:07,433 --> 00:07:11,100 THE ONES THAT ARE GOING BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE AT THE 99 00:07:11,233 --> 00:07:14,400 LOCAL LEVEL WHICH IS WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE REACH THEM 100 00:07:14,533 --> 00:07:18,567 WITH THE REENTRY PROGRAMMING, THE EDUCATION, THE REHANDLE AT A 101 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:21,800 TIMIVE SERVICES THEY NEED TO GET BACK AND BILLION PRODUCTIVE 102 00:07:21,933 --> 00:07:27,367 MEMBERS OF SOCIETY SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY A PRIORITY OF 103 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:35,167 REINVESTMENT. TELEVISION JOURNALIST MOYERS 104 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:38,967 SUGGESTED THE BEST ROLL FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY'S CRIMINAL 105 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:41,500 JUSTICE SYSTEM MAY BE A RETURN TO IT ROOTS. 106 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:47,200 WE CAN RELEASE A THIRD OF THE PRISONERS IN AMERICAN PRISONS IN 107 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:51,933 JAILS WHO ARE THERE FOR LESSER OFFENSES WITHOUT ANY THREAT TO 108 00:07:52,067 --> 00:07:54,433 PUBLIC SAFETY. WHY NOT DO THAT. 109 00:07:54,567 --> 00:08:06,233 WHY NOT REALLY TURN OUR PENITENTIARIES TO THEIR ORIGINAL 110 00:08:06,367 --> 00:08:08,333 PURPOSE. JOINING US TO EXPLORE 111 00:08:08,467 --> 00:08:12,267 CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM IS OUR STUDIO AUDIENCE, IT INCLUDES TWO 112 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,333 FORMER INMATES, PAROLE AND PROBATION AIR FORCE, DISTRICT DT 113 00:08:16,467 --> 00:08:18,733 ATTORNEYS, A FORMER FEDERAL MAGISTRATE AND STATE JUDGE, A 114 00:08:18,867 --> 00:08:22,233 CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, ACLU REPRESENTATIVE AND A MEMBER OF 115 00:08:22,367 --> 00:08:25,900 AN ORGANIZATION HELPING RELEASE CITIZENS WITH THEIR REENTRY. 116 00:08:26,033 --> 00:08:32,533 A STATEWIDE SURVEY CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS YEAR POLLED OVER 117 00:08:32,667 --> 00:08:35,100 1,000 LOUISIANA RESIDENTS ON THEIR OPINION ON CRIMINAL 118 00:08:35,233 --> 00:08:37,633 JUSTICE REFORM. AMONG THE RESULTS, WHEN ASKED 119 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:41,500 ABOUT THE CURRENT FAIRNESS OF THE THE STATE'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE 120 00:08:41,633 --> 00:08:45,233 SYSTEM, JUST OVER HALF OF SPEEDOMETERS 51 PERCENT DISAGREE 121 00:08:45,367 --> 00:08:48,300 WITH THE STATEMENT THAT LOUISIANA'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE 122 00:08:48,433 --> 00:08:50,900 SYSTEM IS FAIR. 34 PERCENT AGREED. 123 00:08:51,033 --> 00:08:55,067 WHEN THE RESPONSES ARE BROKEN DOWN BY RACE A LARGE MAJORITY OF 124 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,033 BLACKS DISAGREE, ONE PERCENT P WHITES ARE SPLIT ALMOST EARLY, 125 00:09:00,167 --> 00:09:04,533 AND 44 PERCENT AGREE. ASK THEIR OPINION OF THREE 126 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:11,300 CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM PROPOSALS 75 PERCENT OF THOSE 127 00:09:11,433 --> 00:09:18,967 FADE FAVOR SHORTER SENTENCES. AND 72 PERCENT FAVOR ENDING 128 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:22,967 MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES AND ALLOWING JUDGES MORE FLEXIBILITY 129 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:26,000 IN MATERIALING PUNISHMENT. BUT SUPPORT FOR SHORTER SENTENCE 130 00:09:26,133 --> 00:09:29,067 FOR PEOPLE CONVICTED OF NONVIOLENT CRIMES DROPS WHEN 131 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,800 SPECIFIC OFFENSES ARE MENINGED. 69 PERCENT OF RESPONSIBILITIES 132 00:09:31,933 --> 00:09:36,633 LIGHTER SENTENCES IF THE CRIME IS FRAUD OR USING ILLEGAL DRUGS. 133 00:09:36,767 --> 00:09:43,500 SUPPORT DROPS TO 54 PERCENT FOR LIGHTER SENTENCES FOR OFFENSES 134 00:09:43,633 --> 00:09:46,467 SUCH BURGLARY OR SELLING ILLEGAL DRUGS. 135 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,533 SO LET'S START WITH YOUR OPINION OF THE STATE'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE 136 00:09:48,667 --> 00:09:50,867 SYSTEM. WHAT'S WORKING AND WHERE IS 137 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,133 THERE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? 138 00:09:55,267 --> 00:10:02,867 THING THAT I THINK IS WORKING AT THE DRUG COURTS. 139 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,967 I WAS INVITED TO A DRUG COURT GRADUATION THE OTHER DAY BY 140 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:11,900 JUDGE JEWELS EDWARDS AND ALL OF THE GRAYS A CHANCE THE PEEK AND 141 00:10:12,033 --> 00:10:14,100 TELL THEIR STORY, AND IT WAS REALLY MOVING. 142 00:10:14,233 --> 00:10:22,800 I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO FIND OUT WHEN A DRUG COURT 143 00:10:22,933 --> 00:10:25,000 DRAWINGS IS HAPPENING AND JUST GO. 144 00:10:25,133 --> 00:10:27,567 I WAS REALLY MOVED BY THE STORY OF THESE PEOPLE. 145 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:33,800 PEOPLE WHO CONSIDERED JUDGE EDWARDS THEIR ENEMY BUT WHO CAME 146 00:10:33,933 --> 00:10:36,800 TO SEE THEM AS THEIR FRIENDS BY THE TIME THEY GRADUATED. 147 00:10:36,933 --> 00:10:39,100 YOU WERE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. I AGREE. 148 00:10:39,233 --> 00:10:42,967 IN MY ROLE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IN CHARGE OF 149 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:48,667 REENTRY, ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS IS OUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT d 150 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,633 PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPANTS IN THE DRUG COURTS TO HELP THEM GET 151 00:10:53,767 --> 00:10:56,167 TREATMENT. THOSE WHO CAN'T DO WELL WITHOUT 152 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:58,333 PATIENT TREATMENT. SO WE WORK VERY WELL WITH THE 153 00:10:58,467 --> 00:11:01,667 DRUG COURTS COURTS AND ALSO HAVA REALLY GOOD REENTRY COURT 154 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,767 PROGRAM WHICH DOESN'T RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND IS 155 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:07,367 JUST ADDITIONAL ROLES THAT WE TAKE ON IN THE PRISON SYSTEM AS 156 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,900 WELL AS THE COURT SYSTEMS AND IT'S BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL TO 157 00:11:11,033 --> 00:11:14,600 THE EXTENT WE HAVE. I AGREE WITH HIM THAT REABLATION 158 00:11:14,733 --> 00:11:21,433 DEFINITELY WORKS. WE SEE IT . 159 00:11:21,567 --> 00:11:23,833 . A LOT OF THE FOCUS IS ON THE 160 00:11:23,967 --> 00:11:26,867 NON-VIOLENT OFFENDER AND I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE THINGS, IF WE 161 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,033 LOOK TAILLIGHT RECIDIVISM RATES THESE ARE FOLKS WE HAVE THE MOST 162 00:11:32,167 --> 00:11:35,500 PROBLEMS WITH. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED 163 00:11:35,633 --> 00:11:40,733 AT IN THIS CRIMINAL JUSTICE PACKAGE, LIKE LOOSEN UP A LITTLE 164 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:48,000 BIT FOR THOSE GERIATRIC PRISONERS. 165 00:11:48,133 --> 00:11:51,867 BECAUSE THE RECIDIVISM RATE IS ZERO. 166 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:00,233 IT'S IF FOLKS THAT HAVE FELT THE BRUNT OF INCARCERATION . 167 00:12:00,367 --> 00:12:02,900 BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THE POPULATION, PING ONE OF THE 168 00:12:03,033 --> 00:12:07,500 THINGS WE SAW FROM THE VIDEO AND NOW THEY MENTIONED THAT, MOST OF 169 00:12:07,633 --> 00:12:10,967 THE FOLKS BEING RELEASED, THEY'RE BEING RELEASED FROM 170 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:13,100 JAILS. THEY'RE NOT BEING RELEASED FROM 171 00:12:13,233 --> 00:12:17,000 CORRECTIONS SO THAT I NOT COMING OUT WITH THE SAME SKILL SETS 172 00:12:17,133 --> 00:12:20,500 THAT SOMEBODY COMING OUT OF ANGOLA WOULD HAVE. 173 00:12:20,633 --> 00:12:23,533 AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE REAL CHALLENGE IS, THAT FOLKS ARE 174 00:12:23,667 --> 00:12:26,967 BEING RELEASED, THEY'RE BEING RELEASED FROM PLACES THAT DON'T 175 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:29,800 PROVIDE NO PROGRAMMATIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM. 176 00:12:29,933 --> 00:12:35,133 WANT THE GERIATRIC PATIENTS? THAT'S AN ASPECT OF THE BILL 177 00:12:35,267 --> 00:12:37,200 THAT'S NO LONGER VIABLE AT LEAST THIS SESSION. 178 00:12:37,333 --> 00:12:40,400 IS THAT A GO AHEAD THING OR BAD THING FROM SOME OF THE 179 00:12:40,533 --> 00:12:43,900 REPORTERS? PART OF THE THINGS WITH 180 00:12:44,033 --> 00:12:48,667 GERIATRIC, WE ALL UMS THE COST FOR HAVING OLDER INMATES IS VERY 181 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,767 HIGH, BUT YOU HAVE TO WEIGH THAT AGAINST SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO 182 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:54,867 ARE IN THERE THAT WE'VE TOLD THE VICTIMS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 183 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,400 DOING LIFE. THIS PERSON WHO TOOK YOUR LOVED 184 00:12:57,533 --> 00:13:00,800 ONE'S LIFE IS GOING TO BE DOING LIFE AND THEN TO COME BACK LATER 185 00:13:00,933 --> 00:13:04,733 AND GO TO THAT VICTIM AND SAY I'M SORRY, BUT HE'S GOING TO BE 186 00:13:04,867 --> 00:13:08,133 GETTING OUT AND COMING BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITY, THAT'S A HARD 187 00:13:08,267 --> 00:13:11,133 THING TO DO. I THINK WE HAVE TO WONDER AS 188 00:13:11,267 --> 00:13:15,167 A SOCIETY WHY WE'VE CHANGED HOW WE VIEW SENTENCING. 189 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:19,133 I KNOW 30, FORGOT YEARS AGO, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE 190 00:13:19,267 --> 00:13:24,367 SENTENCED TO LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE WAS MUCH LESS THAN THE NUMBER 191 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:26,800 THAT WE SENTENCE TODAY. THE RATES HAVE CHANGED. 192 00:13:26,933 --> 00:13:30,967 SO I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT PERSPECTIVE. 193 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:36,267 BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE BECOME A STATE AND WE'RE NOT THE 194 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,667 ONLY STATE THAT DOES THAT BUT WE HAVE BECOME A STATE THAT IS 195 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,767 INCREASINGLY WANTING TO SENTENCE PEOPLE TO LONGER SENTENCES TO 196 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:50,000 SENTENCE VIOLENT CRIMES TO SENTENCES THAT ARE MUCH LONGER 197 00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:54,333 THAN THEY WERE 20, 30, 40 YEARS AGO. 198 00:13:54,467 --> 00:13:57,700 THIS GERIATRIC -- THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS 199 00:13:57,833 --> 00:14:03,567 GOING TO GET WORSE IF NOT BETTER WITHOUT A CHANGE. 200 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:06,967 DO JUDGES NEED MORE DISCRETION ON THESE MANDATORY 201 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:12,267 MINIMUMS A BAD WAY TO GO? JUST TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE, 202 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,367 I WAS ON THE FEDERAL BENCH, THE U.S. MAGISTRATE JUDGE FOR 20 203 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:19,100 JEERS AND SERVED SIX MONTHS ON A STATE BENCH. 204 00:14:19,233 --> 00:14:23,333 THE ONE THING YOU CANNOT DO AS A FEDERAL MAGISTRATE JUDGE IS 205 00:14:23,467 --> 00:14:27,500 SENTENCE FELONY CASES SO THAT'S NOT THE PLACE THAT I'M COMING 206 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:32,867 FROM MAINLY. WHAT I SAW SITTING ON THE STATE 207 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:39,033 BENCH IS THAT THINGS ARE NOT WORKING. 208 00:14:39,167 --> 00:14:45,933 PEOPLE SAY THAT CRIMINAL SYSTEM IN LOUISIANA IS BROKEN, BUT IN 209 00:14:46,067 --> 00:14:48,567 FACT, ASYSTOLE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT I'M SEEING AND 210 00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:54,533 TALKING TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND RESEARCHING THINGS, THE 211 00:14:54,667 --> 00:15:04,133 CONCLUSION I CAME TO IS THERE A POTENT DRIVER OF LOUISIANA'S 212 00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:06,400 INCARCERATION RATE AND THAT IS A PROFIT. 213 00:15:06,533 --> 00:15:10,533 WE HAVE A PRIVATE PRISON SYSTEM BUT ALSO MILLION JAILS THAT ARE 214 00:15:10,667 --> 00:15:13,033 BUILT ON THE PRIVATE MODEL. THERE'S A PROFIT INCENTIVE 215 00:15:13,167 --> 00:15:14,800 THERE. EVERY PERSON THAT I SENTENCED AS 216 00:15:14,933 --> 00:15:18,867 A STATE JUDGE, THAT WAS CONVICTED HAD TO PAY SOME VERY 217 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,100 HIGH COURT COSTS AND ASSESSMENTS. 218 00:15:21,233 --> 00:15:25,467 A PIECE OF THAT WENT TO THE JUDGES, TO THE D.A.S. 219 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,000 TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS. WE HAVE AN OFFENDER FUNDED 220 00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:32,533 JUSTICE SYSTEM IN LOUISIANA THAT WILL WE ARE ADDICTED -- 221 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:37,600 BASICALLY SAY TO PEOPLE WE'RE INVESTING IN CRIME IN LOUISIANA. 222 00:15:37,733 --> 00:15:42,367 WHEN WE ACHIEVE THIS, IF WE ACHIEVE THIS TEN PERCENT 223 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:45,433 REDUCTION THAT IS PROMISED BY THE JUSTICE REINVESTMENT TASK 224 00:15:45,567 --> 00:15:49,200 FORCE OR THE BILLS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THAT, THEY'RE 225 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:53,633 AIMING TO REDUCE OUR INCARCERATION RATE BY 226 00:15:53,767 --> 00:15:55,600 TEN PERCENT IN TEN YEARS. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE AT THE 227 00:15:55,733 --> 00:16:00,400 TOP OF THE WORLD. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE 13 TIMES 228 00:16:00,533 --> 00:16:04,833 GERMANY'S RATE, THREE AND A HALF TIMES IRAN'S RATE. 229 00:16:04,967 --> 00:16:08,233 SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN, IT'S NOT. 230 00:16:08,367 --> 00:16:12,200 IT'S INTENDED TO DO WHAT IT'S DOING, WHICH IS TO ACHIEVE 231 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:15,600 PROFIT FOR MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE INVESTED IN UHE SYSTEM. 232 00:16:15,733 --> 00:16:17,933 CAN I PICK UP ON WHAT SHE SAID? 233 00:16:18,067 --> 00:16:22,067 I WORK FOR THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION AND EIGHT STATES 234 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,733 ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. AND YOU'RE RIGHT EVEN WITH THE 235 00:16:25,867 --> 00:16:28,400 TEN PERCENT DECLINE WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE AWAY AHEAD THE REST 236 00:16:28,533 --> 00:16:31,300 OF THE PACK. IN THE MEANTIME, OKLAHOMA JUST 237 00:16:31,433 --> 00:16:34,333 PASSED LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THEM DOWN. 238 00:16:34,467 --> 00:16:37,700 MISSISSIPPI PASSED LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE THEIR 239 00:16:37,833 --> 00:16:40,200 POPULATION BY ABOUT 16 TO 20 PERCENT. 240 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:44,767 AL A.M.'S DONE IT. GEORGIA HAS DONE IT. 241 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:48,300 ALABAMA JUST LAST FRIDAY PASSED LEGISLATION PROVIDING FOR A 242 00:16:48,433 --> 00:16:52,767 PATHWAY OUT FOR GERIATRIC AND SERIOUSLY ILL INMATES. 243 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,533 WHAT'S WRONG WITH LOUISIANA? ANYBODY WANT TO ANSWER THE 244 00:16:55,667 --> 00:16:58,800 QUESTION WHAT'S WRONG WITH LOUISIANA? 245 00:16:58,933 --> 00:17:04,633 I WAS THE EDITOR OF THE MAGAZINE FOR 16 YEARS. 246 00:17:04,767 --> 00:17:08,533 THIS IS GOING TO SOUND A LITTLE STRANGE BUT I CAN AGREE ON ONE 247 00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:10,967 ISSUE. NOT EVERYONE CONVICTED OF A 248 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:13,433 NON-VIOLENT CRIME IS NECESSARILY NON-VIOLENT. 249 00:17:13,567 --> 00:17:16,000 BUT THE CONVERSE OF THAT IS ALSO TRUE. 250 00:17:16,133 --> 00:17:19,167 NO EVERYONE CONVICTED OF A VIOLENT CRIME HAS A CRIMINAL 251 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:22,733 MENTALITY. AND USING THOSE MATERIALS IS 252 00:17:22,867 --> 00:17:25,467 PART OF THE REASON, BECAUSE THAT'S POLITICAL. 253 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,000 WHEN YOU START THROWING THOSE AROUND AND TAKE DISCRETION FROM 254 00:17:29,133 --> 00:17:36,000 JUDGES AND > DON'T -- AND YOU ME MANDATORY SENTENCING. 255 00:17:36,133 --> 00:17:40,967 IF YOU'RE A FIRST OFFENDER, AND YOU GOT IN AN ARGUMENT ON A TREE 256 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:44,067 ON THE PROPERTY LINE AND -- OR A CAREER CRIMINAL. 257 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,833 IT'S THE SAME SENTENCE AND THERE'S NO DISCRETION. 258 00:17:46,967 --> 00:17:50,433 SO YES THE CONVERSE OF WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE. 259 00:17:50,567 --> 00:17:56,100 NOT EVERYONE CONVICTED OF A VIOLENT CRIME, EVEN A SERIOUS 260 00:17:56,233 --> 00:17:58,833 ASSIGNMENT CRIME IS A VIOLENT CRIMINAL AND THAT PERSON BECOMES 261 00:17:58,967 --> 00:18:04,100 ONE MORE COST. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE RISK ISN'T 262 00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:13,400 THERE AND IT JUST AS UP. IN 1980 WE HAD 700 PRISONERS. 263 00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:20,600 IN 1983 I DID A TERRIBLE THING, AN AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING 264 00:18:20,733 --> 00:18:25,733 AND CRIME AGAINST NATURE, ON DRUGS AND EVERYTHING. 265 00:18:25,867 --> 00:18:30,567 BUT THE DATE I GOT TO ANGOLA, I WAS REHABILITATED BECAUSE I KNEW 266 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:36,467 THAT WASMENT THE PLACE I WANTED TO BE. 267 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,433 SO I DID EVERYTHING ID THAT TO DO TO EARN MY WAY OUT. 268 00:18:39,567 --> 00:18:43,800 SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN IT'S 269 00:18:43,933 --> 00:18:47,533 AMAZING THAT THE DATA THAT THEY SHOW THE PUSHBACK CAME FROM THE 270 00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:53,200 SHERIFFS AND THE D.A.S. THE PEOPLE THAT'S IN THE 271 00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:55,600 BUSINESS. IT'S THE KNOWLEDGE VIOLENT 272 00:18:55,733 --> 00:18:58,333 SHORT-TERM THAT ARE KEEPING THE REVOLVING DOOR GOING. 273 00:18:58,467 --> 00:19:03,833 WHAT CAN AN 84-YEAR-OLD MAN WITH ONE LEG DO? 274 00:19:03,967 --> 00:19:06,333 I UNDERSTAND THE VICTIMS. I WAS A VICTIM OF A CRIME. 275 00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:12,367 I MEAN, MY SON GOT KILLED. BUT I'M NOT BITTER ON EVERYBODY, 276 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:15,667 YOU KNOW, HANGING HIM AND LEAVE HIM. 277 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:22,033 BUT IF YOU THINK BACK WITH PRISONS, IT STARTED WITH THE 278 00:19:22,167 --> 00:19:24,733 QUAKERS. REHABILITATION. 279 00:19:24,867 --> 00:19:29,033 PEOPLE BEING BOATER PEOPLE. AND I DARE SO SAY, ANYBODY 280 00:19:29,167 --> 00:19:33,600 SITTING HERE TODAY HAS DONE SOMETHING THAT GOD HAS FORGIVEN 281 00:19:33,733 --> 00:19:36,400 THEM FOR. SO WE MAY GET TO THAT POINT. 282 00:19:36,533 --> 00:19:39,767 MAYBE WE NEED GOD TO COME DOWN AND GET US AUTOSTRAIGHT. 283 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:42,600 THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR THIS PORTION OF OUR SHOW. 284 00:19:42,733 --> 00:19:46,633 WENT WE RETURN WE'LL BE JOINED BY A PANEL OF EXPERTS TO EXPLORE 285 00:19:46,767 --> 00:19:49,600 REFORM OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN LOUISIANA 286 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,433 WELCOME BACK. TONIGHT WE'RE DISCUSSIONING 287 00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:02,100 CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM IN LOUISIANA. 288 00:20:02,233 --> 00:20:07,600 JOINING US NOW IS OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS. 289 00:20:07,733 --> 00:20:14,567 #È BELIEVES THAT VOLKSWAGENAL EDUCATIONAL AND 290 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:19,900 LIFE SKILLS]=Uç TRAINING TRAINIF THE KEYS TO ENSURING PUBLIC 291 00:20:20,033 --> 00:20:22,867 SAFETY. WE HAVE THE DEPEND COUNCIL OF 292 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 THE LOUISIANA SUPREME COURT. SHE'S ALSO STAFF COUNCIL TO THE 293 00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:36,500 WHY THE REINVESTMENT TASK FORCE. DUHE IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY 294 00:20:36,633 --> 00:20:40,933 FOR THETH 16TH DISTRICT. HE'S A GRADUATE OF TULANE AND A 295 00:20:41,067 --> 00:20:43,267 FORMER PROSECUTOR. HE WAS LENGTHED AS DISTRICT 296 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,033 ATTORNEY IN 50. AND ELAINE ELLERBE IS THE STATE 297 00:20:48,167 --> 00:20:52,167 DIRECTOR FOR RIGHT ON CRIME. HER DEVELOPMENT OF REENTRY 298 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:57,233 PROGRAMS FOR OFFENDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED 299 00:20:57,367 --> 00:21:00,167 STATEWIDE AND NATIONALLY. BEFORE WE GO TO OUR AUDIENCE 300 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:03,367 QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST ASK EVERY ONE OF YOU HOW YOU 301 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:06,967 WOULD GRADE LOUISIANA'S CURRENT CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 302 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:11,600 THANK YOU, BOB. AND THANK YOU LPB FOR DOING THIS 303 00:21:11,733 --> 00:21:14,300 AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE PUBLIC 304 00:21:14,433 --> 00:21:16,467 UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING THE ACCOMPLISH. 305 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,000 IF YOU JUST USE THE HIGHEST INCARCERATION RATE IN THE WORLD 306 00:21:21,133 --> 00:21:24,833 I GUESS YOU WOULD GIVE US AN F, BUT IT HAS I REFLECT BACK ON THE 307 00:21:24,967 --> 00:21:29,067 LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND STARTING WITH THE SENTENCING COMMISSION, 308 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,667 WHERE WE HAD A D.A. AS A CHAIR POSITION, AND WE HAD A WIDE 309 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,633 VARIETY OF PEOPLE ON THE SENTENCING COMMISSION, WE PASSED 310 00:21:38,767 --> 00:21:43,267 PROBABLY 30 PIECES OVULATIONS THAT HELPED US MOVE IN THE RIGHT 311 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,600 DIRECTION. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN 312 00:21:45,733 --> 00:21:49,133 YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND I TALKED 313 00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:53,700 ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AT THE LOCAL 314 00:21:53,833 --> 00:21:57,767 LEVEL, WE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST THREE OR 315 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:03,900 FOUR YEARS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE NINE REENTRY CENTERS. 316 00:22:04,033 --> 00:22:08,567 WE HAVE FOUR REPORTING CENTERS. WE HAVE 250 CERTIFIED TREATMENT 317 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:13,500 PROGRAMS NOW AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WHICH WE HAD ZERO NOT THAT LONG 318 00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:19,267 AGO AND AS RED MENTIONED EARLIER WE HAVE A MODIFIED TREATMENT 319 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,867 PROGRAM WITH 600 BEDS. WE HAVE LOUISIANA TRANSITIONAL 320 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,100 CENTER FOR WOMEN. AGAIN THESE ARE PARTNERSHIPS 321 00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:29,800 WITH THE LOCAL SHERIFFS AND SO I KNOW -- I HEAR THE ISSUE OF IT'S 322 00:22:29,933 --> 00:22:34,300 A MONEY DRIVER, AN ECONOMICS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BUT EVERYBODY'S 323 00:22:34,433 --> 00:22:36,933 WORKING TOGETHER TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND OUR PRISON 324 00:22:37,067 --> 00:22:40,567 POPULATION IS DOWN BY ALMOST 5,000 INMATES AND WE RANK 325 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:43,767 SOMEWHERE AROUND SECOND OR THIRD IN THE COUNTRY FOR PRISON 326 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,000 REDUCTION. FROM THAT STANDPOINT I THINK 327 00:22:46,133 --> 00:22:52,833 WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS BUT WE HAVE A LONG ICE WAYS TO GO. 328 00:22:52,967 --> 00:22:55,733 I WOULD BRING IT UP TO MAYBE A D. 329 00:22:55,867 --> 00:23:00,967 I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTSES. 330 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:05,267 SOME OF ANY FAVORITE TEACHERS IN SCHOOL GAVE ADDITIONAL CREDIT 331 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,967 FOR CLASS PARTICIPATION AND FOR HOMEWORK. 332 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:12,833 AND I'LL SAY OUR HOMEWORK, WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF HOMEWORK AS 333 00:23:12,967 --> 00:23:16,367 THE SECRETARY JUST SPOKE ABOUT AND FOR THE LAST TEN MONTHS, IF 334 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:20,567 NOT LONGER, ABOUT A YEAR WE'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT AS A 335 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:25,167 STATE TO LEARN AND TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT THE DRIVERS OF 336 00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:30,200 INCARCERATION ARE. NOW THE TASK FOR US TO IS LOOK 337 00:23:30,333 --> 00:23:32,867 IN THE MIRROR AND BE HONEST AND ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. 338 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,967 AND PINGS WITH THIS PACKAGE, WE'RE DOING MANY OF THOSE THINGS 339 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:44,000 BUT WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO. SO I WOULD SAY FOR CLASS 340 00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:52,400 PARTICIPATION WE GOAT GET ABA. SO SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS LOOK 341 00:23:52,533 --> 00:23:54,833 AT OUR LONGER SERVING SENTENCERS. 342 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:57,833 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE SUCH A PUNITIVE SEWED SAN 343 00:23:57,967 --> 00:24:03,467 FRANCISCO SOCIETY. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE 344 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,267 ONE OF FEW STATES WHO HAS STILL NOT FASHIONED A REMEDY FOR 345 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,100 CHILDREN SERVING LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT PAROLE. 346 00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:15,233 THAT'S VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. AND IF WE DON'T DO THAT INWE 347 00:24:15,367 --> 00:24:18,200 WILL STILL FAIL. AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT. 348 00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:21,033 I KNOW WE CAN DO IT. WE'VE ALL WORKED TOGETHER. 349 00:24:21,167 --> 00:24:26,167 SO MANY FOLKS IN THIS ROOM HAVE BECOMES CLOSE FRIENDS. 350 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:29,733 SO I GUESS I HOPE THAT LOUISIANA BECOMES THE POSTER CHILD FOR 351 00:24:29,867 --> 00:24:35,633 BEST OR MOST IMPROVED STUDENT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 352 00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:41,867 WELL, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS A GRADE SIMILAR TO MY 353 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,667 PANELISTS IN THAT AS FAR AS BEING THE HIGHEST INCARCERATION 354 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,667 RATE WE'RE NOT GOING A GOOD JOB AND THAT'S OBVIOUS. 355 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,633 SO WE NEED TO BALANCE CHANGE AND WORK TOGETHER LIKE WE HAVE BEEN 356 00:24:55,767 --> 00:25:01,667 DOING AND HAVING A BALANCE IN THERE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, 357 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,667 COMMITMENT TO VICTIMS THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THE PAST. 358 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,333 AND YOU KNOW, TO BALANCE THOSE INTERESTS AND COMMITMENTS AND 359 00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:18,167 TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT OURSELVES LIKE ALANAH SAID. 360 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:21,867 OF COURSE CLASS PARTICIPATION. WE COME FROM A VARIETY OF 361 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,967 DIFFERENT AREAS. YET WE'RE GOING TO SIT AND WORK 362 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:28,433 TOGETHER AND I THINK THAT'S A GREET STEP WE'RE TAKING. 363 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:31,567 RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF 87 PERCENT OF THE 364 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:37,533 SAVINGS ORIGINALLY PREDICTED. AND I'M CONFIDENT NOW THAT THE 365 00:25:37,667 --> 00:25:40,567 OF REINVESTMENT COMPONENT IS REALLY GOING TO BE THERE TO 366 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:45,533 REALLY IMPLEMENT THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NECESSARY AND 367 00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:47,533 STATEWIDE. BECAUSE WE DO IS HAVE SOME GREAT 368 00:25:47,667 --> 00:25:50,700 PROGRAMS THAT THE SECRETARY MENTIONED THAT ARE MAKING A 369 00:25:50,833 --> 00:25:53,300 DIFFERENCE. SO OVERALL I THINK I WOULD GIVE 370 00:25:53,433 --> 00:25:58,600 US A MEDIUM C GRADE ONCE YOU TAKE THE AS AND F AND PUT IT 371 00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:02,300 TOGETHER, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF LOUISIANA 372 00:26:02,433 --> 00:26:06,433 AND I'M CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL CHANGE. 373 00:26:06,567 --> 00:26:11,533 ONE OF THE THINGS FOR ME IS THAT FOR OVER 25 YEARS I'VE 374 00:26:11,667 --> 00:26:15,000 WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE INCARCERATED POPULATION. 375 00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:20,300 IN FACT THE SECRETARY WAS ANY BOSS AT ONE TIME. 376 00:26:20,433 --> 00:26:24,200 BUT WHAT I'M SEEING NOW IS THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO 377 00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:27,000 QUIT OPERATING IN THESE SMALL SILOS. 378 00:26:27,133 --> 00:26:32,767 SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP THE ORIGINAL INTENT FOR STATE PENITENTIARIES. 379 00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:36,167 THE WHOLE PURPLE WAS TO KEEP THE BAD GUYS AWAY FROM THE GOOD GUYS 380 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:41,433 AND EVEN WHERE WE ARE NOW, CORRECTIONS MANY TIMES IS ASKED 381 00:26:41,567 --> 00:26:46,333 TO DO SO MANY THINGS THAT THEY WERE NEVER INTENDED TO DO. 382 00:26:46,467 --> 00:26:49,767 NOW WILL NOT NOT STEM FORWARD AND BE THE LEAD INNER THESE 383 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:50,967 REFORMS? YES THEY WILL. 384 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:54,333 AND I THINK WE HAVE A TEAM THAT RECOGNIZES THAT AND IS DOING 385 00:26:54,467 --> 00:26:56,067 THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT 386 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,033 THERE ARE SO MANY LITTLE PARTS AND PIECE THAT IS IMPACT THIS. 387 00:26:59,167 --> 00:27:03,233 MANY TIMES WHEN I HEAR THE STATEMENT THAT CORRECTIONS IS 388 00:27:03,367 --> 00:27:07,067 ABOUT MONEY DRIVEN AND THAT IT'S ABOUT MAKING A PROFIT. 389 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,233 I WORK FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS I'VE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH A 390 00:27:12,367 --> 00:27:16,400 LOCAL DETENTION CENTER AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE 391 00:27:16,533 --> 00:27:21,600 IS THEY HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR POLICE JURY TO DO THEIR PART. 392 00:27:21,733 --> 00:27:24,733 MANY TIMES THE POLICE JURIES ARE COMING BACK AND SAYING LISTEN, 393 00:27:24,867 --> 00:27:30,000 WE DON'T HAVE MONEY THE KEEP YOUR LIGHTS ON IN YOUR JAIL. 394 00:27:30,133 --> 00:27:32,133 SO WHAT IS THE SHERIFF SUPPOSED TO DO? 395 00:27:32,267 --> 00:27:35,533 BUT ALSO ALL OF THE SYSTEM HAS HAD A PART IN BUILDING WHAT WE 396 00:27:35,667 --> 00:27:39,400 HAVE. BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE 25 397 00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:42,733 YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE SYSTEM I'M SEEING PEOPLE COMING 398 00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:45,500 TOGETHER THAT HAVE NEVER COMING TOGETHER AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT 399 00:27:45,633 --> 00:27:48,267 EVERYONE SAID HERE. BUT WE ARE PROBABLY THE WORST IN 400 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,267 THE CLASS RIGHT NOW. BUT WE HAVE SO MUCH POTENTIAL 401 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,400 BECAUSE OF THE JUSTICE REINVESTMENT. 402 00:27:55,533 --> 00:27:58,367 BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THEIR GOING ON TO WIND UP BEING 403 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,133 THE MOST IMPROVED WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE . 404 00:28:01,267 --> 00:28:02,967 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT. 405 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,367 AND NOW LET'S TURN TO OUR AUDIENCE HERE AND GOO TO 406 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:09,233 QUESTIONS. BOBBY WE'RE GOING TO GO TO YOUR 407 00:28:09,367 --> 00:28:18,600 FIRST. I'M AN ASSISTANT D.A. IN 408 00:28:18,733 --> 00:28:20,733 LAFAYETTE. ONE OF THE ISSUES PEOPLE TALK 409 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:28,400 ABOUT IS INCARS RACE RATE AND BY THE NUMBERS, 60 PERCENT OF THE 410 00:28:28,533 --> 00:28:31,467 PEOPLE INCARCERATED WERE PUT ON PROBATION FOR THE CRIME FOR 411 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,533 WHICH THEY WERE ULTIMATELY INCARCERATED. 412 00:28:34,667 --> 00:28:39,133 SO OBVIOUSLY, SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING PROPERLY IN THE 413 00:28:39,267 --> 00:28:44,400 PROBATION DEPARTMENT. AND I WOULD DARE SAY A LOT OF IT 414 00:28:44,533 --> 00:28:48,267 HAS TO DO WITH DRUG CRIMES. DRUG OFFENSES BECAUSE TOP FIVE 415 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:54,600 DRIVERS ARE DRUG OFFENSES. AND MY UNDERSTANDING HAS ALWAYS 416 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:58,367 BEEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A CARROT AND A STICK TO SORT OF GET OVER 417 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:04,200 OR GET REHABILITATION AND DEAL WITH THE ADDICTION PROBLEM. 418 00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:09,500 AND SO AS PART OF JUSTICE REINVESTMENT, WE'RE DRASTICALLY 419 00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:16,533 REDUCING OF SOME OF THE SENTENCES FOR POSSESSION, 420 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:21,333 POSSESSION WITH INTENT AND DESCRIPTION OF CONTROLLED 421 00:29:21,467 --> 00:29:24,833 SUBSTANCES. AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I 422 00:29:24,967 --> 00:29:27,900 HAVE IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL CARROT AND NO CONSEQUENCES 423 00:29:28,033 --> 00:29:31,267 FOR NOT FULFILLING YOUR OBLIGATIONS IN DRUG COURT. 424 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,700 HOW DOR¢ I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP IN HERE 425 00:29:34,833 --> 00:29:38,767 AND SAY THAT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE REALIZED WITH 426 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:41,567 REGARD TO DRUG CRIMES IS THAT THERE WAS A WAR THAT WAS WAGED 427 00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:46,100 ON DRUG CRIMES BACK IN THE 80INGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN THE 428 00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:50,700 DISCOURSE NOW DEMONSTRATE THAT WAS CREATED BASED UPON POLICY 429 00:29:50,833 --> 00:29:55,667 DECISIONS AND NOT BASED UPON THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS DRUG 430 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,000 ADDICTION AND WE'VE SEEN THROUGH MANY OTHER COUNTRY THAT HAVE 431 00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:05,400 ADDRESSED THIS PROBLEM, PORTUGAL AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES 432 00:30:05,533 --> 00:30:09,000 THAT WERE REALLY GOING THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF ADDICTION 433 00:30:09,133 --> 00:30:12,667 ISSUES WE ARE AND DECIDED TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM THROUGH 434 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,500 THEIR HEALTH SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO TO THROUGH THEIR PRISON 435 00:30:17,633 --> 00:30:21,467 SYSTEMS AND THEY WERE ABLE THE ACHIEVE GREAT BENEFIT TO THEIR 436 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,200 SOCIETIES BY DOING THAT. UNDERSTANDING THAT ADDICTION IS 437 00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:30,067 DRIVEN BY AN INABILITY TO WORK -- TO DEAL WITH THE HEALTH 438 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,300 ISSUE AND NOT CRIMINALITY. AND SO TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY 439 00:30:34,433 --> 00:30:38,333 SUPERVISES PIECE THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING, WHAT THE RESEARCH 440 00:30:38,467 --> 00:30:42,267 SUGGESTS THAT SWIFT, CERTAIN AND PROPORTIONAL SANCTIONERS ARE 441 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,033 WHAT SHOULD BE THE WAY WE DEAL WITH COMMUNITY SUPERVISION. 442 00:30:45,167 --> 00:30:51,600 MEANING WE DON'T HAVE PENALTIES THAT ARE ARBITRARY OR ATTENUATED 443 00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:53,400 OR DISPO PORTION GNAT TO THE VIOLATION. 444 00:30:53,533 --> 00:30:56,633 SO LOOKING AT EACH VIOLATION, ESTABLISHING A GRID FOR CERTAIN 445 00:30:56,767 --> 00:31:01,200 TYPES OF VIOLATIONS AND MAKING SURE THE PUNISHMENTS THAT ARE 446 00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:04,933 GIVENING HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. ARE CONSISTENT FOR EVERYBODY 447 00:31:05,067 --> 00:31:12,000 WHO'S ON PROBATION, NOT DISPARATE BASED ON THE 448 00:31:12,133 --> 00:31:15,267 DEMOGRAPHIC YOU ARE, AND ALSO MAKING SURE THEY'RE 449 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,000 PROPORTIONAL. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT REVOKING 450 00:31:20,133 --> 00:31:24,367 PEOPLE FOR A MINOR VIOLATION, WE'RE LOOKING TO PERHAPS ADDRESS 451 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:30,833 THINGS WEATHER HEADLINE WITH SHORTER PRISON SENTENCES. 452 00:31:30,967 --> 00:31:36,000 THE MODEL OUT OF HAWAII, THE WHOLE PROBATION PROGRAM REALLY 453 00:31:36,133 --> 00:31:37,733 DOES TALK ABOUT THIS CARROT AND STICK. 454 00:31:37,867 --> 00:31:45,800 SO THE CARROT OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE FOLKS ARE ABLE TO LESSEN THEIR 455 00:31:45,933 --> 00:31:48,867 PROBATIONARY SUPERVISORY PERIOD OF TIME FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR FOR 456 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,800 DOING THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE THEM DOING, FOR 457 00:31:52,933 --> 00:31:57,033 GETTING A GED, FOR WORKING, FOR DOING THE PRO-SOCIAL ACTIVITIES 458 00:31:57,167 --> 00:32:01,267 THAT WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE ENGAGED IN FACT BUT BY THE SAME 459 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,900 TOKEN, FAILING TO ADHERE P FAILING TO WORK THE PROGRAM 460 00:32:05,033 --> 00:32:10,200 WOULD RESULT IN PRISON TIME. RECOGNIZING THAT NATIONAL 461 00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:15,567 CAMPAIGNS ON THIS EXACT ISSUE SUGGESTED EVEN THREE DAYS HAS 462 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:18,833 THE ABILITY TO DISRUPT SOMEONE FROM THEIR WORK, THEIR 463 00:32:18,967 --> 00:32:21,767 COMMUNITY, THEIR FAMILY, THEIR CHILDREN, THE KINDS OF SOCIAL 464 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,500 THINGS WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE. SO I THINK BY REDUCING 465 00:32:25,633 --> 00:32:29,033 CASELOADS, BY GETTING FOLKS OFF OF COMMUNITY SUPERVISES WHO ARE 466 00:32:29,167 --> 00:32:35,900 WORKING WELL, ARE DOING WELL THAT ALLOWS OUR PAROLE OFFICERS 467 00:32:36,033 --> 00:32:41,267 TO FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION ON FOLKS WHO ARE HYSTRIX AND MORE 468 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,167 LIKELY TO RESCIND. YOU DO PROBATION AND PAROLE 469 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,033 AT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, MAYBE WE CAN COME 470 00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:51,667 TO YOU FOR THE NEXT QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO BE A 471 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,200 PANELIST ON THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED A CARROT 472 00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:58,867 AND A STICK. SHE'S RIGHT YOU GOT TO SLAP THAT 473 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,900 KID'S HAND THE MINUTE THEY REACH IT IN THE COOKIE JAR. 474 00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:06,467 BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO REWARD THEM WHEN THEY'RE DOING WELL. 475 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 AND THAT'S ONE THING PAROLE IS FOCUSING ON. 476 00:33:09,733 --> 00:33:13,767 OUR JOB IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WE HAVE TO PUT PEOPLE BEHIND 477 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:21,167 BARS THAT BELONG BAN BARS. AND HOPEFULLY REREINVEST THIS 478 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:25,300 MONEY BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, INTO PROBABLY AND PAROLE. 479 00:33:25,433 --> 00:33:28,633 DRUG TREATMENT. ESPECIALLY IN THE RURAL PARISHES 480 00:33:28,767 --> 00:33:29,867 THAT HAVE NOTHING FOR US TO GIVE. 481 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,533 AND THAT'S THE WHOLE KEY. WE GET THAT REINVESTMENT THAT WE 482 00:33:32,667 --> 00:33:37,567 CAN GET THE PEOPLE WE WORK WITH TO TRUST US, COME TO ME, PETE, 483 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:42,067 HEY, I HAD A BAD WEEKEND, SMOKED SOME DOPE. 484 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,667 I'M GOING TO SLAP YOUR HAND AND PUT YOU IN JAIL FOR A DAY BUT 485 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,533 THEN I'M GOING TO GET YOU SOME TREATMENT. 486 00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:53,767 THE FAMILY TREE STOPS, GENERATION FROM GENERATION IS 487 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,000 SAVED. AND WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. 488 00:33:57,133 --> 00:33:59,867 CHICO, YOU'RE A GREAT SUCCESS STORY. 489 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,767 YOU WERE TALKING TO US EARLIER. THAT'S WHAT MAKES YOUR PROBATION 490 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:06,900 PAROLE OFFICER FEEL GOOD. WE SHOULD ALSO TAKE THAT PERSON 491 00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:12,200 OFF THE STREET THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE OR THAT PERSON THAT'S 492 00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:16,367 INFLUENCING OTHERS TO DO WRONG, LIKE OUR GANG MEMBERS. 493 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:21,667 AND IF I MAY ADD TO THAT. ONE THING THAT REALLY RELATES TO 494 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,200 THIS IS THE JAILISH. THAT 13,000 OUT OF 17,000, I 495 00:34:25,333 --> 00:34:27,900 THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THE FRIEND OF THIS. 496 00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:38,300 AND GIVING AN EXAM, WHEN YOU GET SENTENCED HARD TIME , THEY 497 00:34:38,433 --> 00:34:43,900 CONTRACT OUT. NO RECEPTION CENTER. 498 00:34:44,033 --> 00:34:48,233 STRAIT THERE AND DO TWO OR THREE YEARS AND THEY'RE DISCHARGED 499 00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:51,067 BACK STRAIGHT TO POVERTY. AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR MAIN ON 500 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200 THIVES HERE IS WE HAVE TO STOP THAT. 501 00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:56,467 THESE REENTRY CENTERS I MENTIONED EARLIER IS WHAT'S 502 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,433 DOING THAT. WE HAVE HAD TESTIMONY TODAY 503 00:35:01,567 --> 00:35:04,233 FROM TWO OFFENDERS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH OUR DAY REPORTING 504 00:35:04,367 --> 00:35:07,867 CENTERS CAN DRUG PROBLEM ASKS NOW THEY DON'T. 505 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,133 THAT I DOING GREAT. SO WE HAVE THE MATERIAL TO KNOW 506 00:35:11,267 --> 00:35:14,867 THAT IT WORKS. AND SOMEBODY SAID, YOU GOT THOSE 507 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,467 THAT YOU CAN'T BREAK. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE 508 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,433 THAT WANT TO DO RIGHT ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 509 00:35:21,567 --> 00:35:26,533 SO WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING EARLIER ABOUT THE MUST BE BEING 510 00:35:26,667 --> 00:35:37,567 USED TO -- PUT THE MONEY INTO THE RIGHT PROGRAMS. 511 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,733 YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER. 512 00:35:39,867 --> 00:35:44,433 AISLE CONFIDENT IT WILL. WE HAVE HAD A PRIOR EXPERIENCE 513 00:35:44,567 --> 00:35:48,467 WHEN WE REDID THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND ADAPTED THE 514 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,267 MONTH MODEL IN THERE WAS A PROMISE THAT THE MONEY SAVED WAS 515 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:59,500 GOING TO BE REINVESTED. AND IT WASN'T ALL REINVESTED. 516 00:35:59,633 --> 00:36:04,900 SO WE HAVE A BIG JUVENILE PROBLEM AND NO STAFF BECAUSE 517 00:36:05,033 --> 00:36:08,033 THERE'S NO FUNDING. SO YOU'RE FORCED TO RESERVE THAT 518 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:11,500 SPACE THAT MAY BE NECESSARY FOR A JUVENILE FOR THE -- I MEAN THE 519 00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:15,900 REALLY BAD ONES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SOME OTHER CENTER THAT CAN 520 00:36:16,033 --> 00:36:19,400 CURB THAT BEHAVIOR. AND ONCE AGAIN AS A YOUTHFUL 521 00:36:19,533 --> 00:36:22,433 OFFENDER YOU'RE HOPING TO CURB THAT BEHAVIOR BEFORE THEY 522 00:36:22,567 --> 00:36:25,533 GRADUATE ON TO ADULT COURT AND THEY BECOME MORE REPRESENTATIVE 523 00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:29,567 AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO CHANGE THAT BEHAVIOR AND THE CYCLE JUST 524 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,733 CONTINUES LIKE YOU SAID. YOU WANT TO BREAK THAT CYCLE. 525 00:36:32,867 --> 00:36:36,833 SO I AM CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REINVEST AND THE FACT 526 00:36:36,967 --> 00:36:43,300 THEY ADDED ANOTHER -- 20 PERCENT TO THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM 527 00:36:43,433 --> 00:36:47,433 IS A BIG I UNDERSTOOD CATERED THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED. 528 00:36:47,567 --> 00:36:50,167 WE'LL GOO TO ROBIN NOW FOR A QUESTION. 529 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,700 AS A DISTRICT ATTORNEY, YOU'RE A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE 530 00:36:53,833 --> 00:37:00,367 TWO MAJOR GROUPS THAT OPPOSED THE REFORM LEGISLATION RECENTLY. 531 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,433 SHERIFFS OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH STRANDED ASSET OF JAILS 532 00:37:04,567 --> 00:37:10,000 THEY BUILT IN ANTICIPATION OF CONTINUED PRISONERS. 533 00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:13,667 BUT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ALSO OPPOSED IT. 534 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,367 I WAS WONDERING WHAT IS THE REASON -- THE ONLY THING THAT 535 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:29,000 OCCURRED TO ME IS THAT BY HAVING LESS -- HAVING LESS PUNITIVE 536 00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:33,067 SENTENCING AND NOT HAVING THE THREAT THAT THEN ALLOWS THEM TO 537 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,367 PLEA BARGAIN, THAT THAT MAKES YOUR JOB HARDER. 538 00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:40,200 CAN YOU ADDRESS WHY IT IS? IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR 539 00:37:40,333 --> 00:37:43,367 QUESTIONS CORRECTLY THE QUESTION WAS WHY DO WE OPPOSE. 540 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,833 THE REALITY IS WE DIDN'T OPPOSE THE MAJORITY OF JUSTICE 541 00:37:46,967 --> 00:37:50,600 REINVESTMENT AS RELATES TO NONVIOLENT NONSEX OFFENDERS. 542 00:37:50,733 --> 00:37:58,367 IN FACT WE ARE SUPPORTING IT AND WE ARE AGREEING TO MANY 543 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,600 RECOMMENDATIONS. THERE WAS NO GOOD TIME PAROLE. 544 00:38:01,733 --> 00:38:07,333 WE HAVE AGREED TO HAVE THAT APPLICABLE THROUGHOUT ANY 545 00:38:07,467 --> 00:38:13,133 NONVIOLENT OFFENSE AS WELL AS THE PROBATION CHANGES THAT 546 00:38:13,267 --> 00:38:16,433 REDUCE -- AND WE AGREE WITH INCENTIVIZING GOOD BEHAVIOR. 547 00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:18,833 WHAT HAPPENED IS DURING THE PROCESS IS YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER 548 00:38:18,967 --> 00:38:22,567 THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THE JUSTICE REINVESTMENT 549 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:27,167 TASK FORCE HAD THREE GOALS GOALD ONE WAS TO SAVE THE PRISON SPACE 550 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:29,033 FOR VIOLENT AND SERIES OFFENDERS. 551 00:38:29,167 --> 00:38:35,533 THAT TELL MES ME AS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE LET'S CONCENTRATE 552 00:38:35,667 --> 00:38:38,133 ON NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS AND LET'S DEAL WITH THE MAJORITY OF 553 00:38:38,267 --> 00:38:42,133 PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP THE PRISON SYSTEM CAN TV AND LET'S SEE HOW 554 00:38:42,267 --> 00:38:48,167 WE CAN IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS TO CURB THAT INCARCERATION RATE. 555 00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:50,967 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE MANDATES OF THE RESIDENT LOUIS 556 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:56,367 SAID TO DEAL WITH NON-VIOLENT, NONSERIOUS OFFENDERS. 557 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,767 SECOND OF ALL THERE'S MILLION VIOLENT OFFENDERS THAT ARE OUT 558 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:10,933 THERE THAT ARE BEEN RECONVICTED. AND SOME OF THOSE INVOLVED 559 00:39:11,067 --> 00:39:14,900 MANDATORY LIVE SENTENCES ON SAY FIRST-DEGREE MURDER, 560 00:39:15,033 --> 00:39:20,367 SECOND-DEGREE MURDER, AG RAPES. THERE WAS CASE THAT I HAND, 561 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:23,033 BECAUSE I HAND FELONY<0 THROUGHOUT ANY CAREER AND 50 562 00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:26,767 THAT I DID NOT THINK THE FACTS MAY HAVE JUSTIFIED A CONVICTION 563 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:33,333 FOR SECOND-DEGREE MURDER, BUT I THOUGHTS THOUGHT LIFE IN PRISON 564 00:39:33,467 --> 00:39:38,900 WAS IMPROPER WE WOULD ALWAYS DRY TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING DOWN TO A 565 00:39:39,033 --> 00:39:41,733 MANSLAUGHTER OR NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE DEPENDING ON THE FACTS. 566 00:39:41,867 --> 00:39:44,600 SO THEY DID HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK THAT'S 567 00:39:44,733 --> 00:39:46,667 CUTTING LOSSES. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AS THEY 568 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,367 HANDLE THEIR CASES AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE ENTER PLEA 569 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,400 AGREEMENTS THAT DEAL WITH THE CHARMS TO THE OPPORTUNITY IS 570 00:39:53,533 --> 00:40:00,600 THERE. AND LET'S NOT FORGET YOU HAVE 571 00:40:00,733 --> 00:40:02,467 COMMUTATIONS. ANY PERSON IN PRISON FOR 15 572 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,267 YEARS AND APPLY FOR COMMUTATION OF THEIR SENTENCE AND THAT'S 573 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,700 REGULARLY DONE. AND THAT DOES HAVE A RELEASE 574 00:40:08,833 --> 00:40:11,700 VALVE FOR SOMEBODY BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. 575 00:40:11,833 --> 00:40:17,967 WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT? 576 00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:20,200 I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PERCENTAGE. 577 00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:26,200 MAYBE THE SECRETARY WILL TUSSLE. I DO KNOW THAT IT'S BEING 578 00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:28,733 USED ON A MORE REGULAR BUSINESS NOW. 579 00:40:28,867 --> 00:40:32,467 THE LAST 25 YEARS, MAYBE 100 PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN THEIR 580 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,033 SENTENCE COMMUTED AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM HAD BEEN UNDER 581 00:40:37,167 --> 00:40:43,900 JOHN BELL'S WATCH. MIKE FOSTER MAY HAVE DONE TWO OR 582 00:40:44,033 --> 00:40:51,100 THREE. BOBBY JINDELL DID ONE. 583 00:40:51,233 --> 00:40:57,333 SO THE LAST QUARTER OF A CENTURY , IT DOESN'T WORK. 584 00:40:57,467 --> 00:41:02,100 PRIOR THAT 15 YEARS MR. WOOD IS TALKING ABOUT, PEOPLE SERVING A 585 00:41:02,233 --> 00:41:05,633 LIFE SENTENCE HAD TO DO JUST TUTOYERS AND MAKE AN APPLICATION 586 00:41:05,767 --> 00:41:10,933 FOR CLEMENCY. SOMEONE WOULD GIVE 587 00:41:11,067 --> 00:41:13,667 RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOMEBODY WOULD GOAT RELEASED. 588 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,133 THAT CHANGED BECAUSE THE D.A.'S ASSOCIATION WENT AND SAID ONE 589 00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:21,367 CRIME SURVIVOR CAME AND SAID I'M TIRED OF COMING TO THESE 590 00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:26,733 HEARINGS AND WHAT HAPPENED FROM THAT WAS THEY SHIFTED TO 15 591 00:41:26,867 --> 00:41:28,267 YEARS. IF YOU DIDN'T GET A 592 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,400 RECOMMENDATION, YOU HAD TO WAIT FIVE MORE YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN 593 00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:41,967 REAPPLY. AND I ALWAYS HEAR THE D.A.S 594 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:46,067 SAYING WE MADE A PROMISE TO THE VICTIMS. 595 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:58,200 PRIOR 1979, JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, PUNISHMENT IN 596 00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:01,600 THIS STATE, SUSPECT WAS CREATED AND NOW WE HAVE A SECOND-DEGREE 597 00:42:01,733 --> 00:42:06,800 MURDER MURDER STATUTE. I GAVE PAROLE AFTER 20 YEARS. 598 00:42:06,933 --> 00:42:10,933 1975 BECAUSE OF DECISIONS BETWEEN UNITED STATES SUPREME 599 00:42:11,067 --> 00:42:13,267 COURT, THEY MOVED THAT TO 40 YEARS. 600 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:20,533 THAT STAYED IN PLACE FROM THE LATE 60s ALL THE WAY UP TO 601 00:42:20,667 --> 00:42:24,800 1979. OZOWHEN PEOPLE SAY WE MADE A 602 00:42:24,933 --> 00:42:26,567 PROMISE TO VICTIMS THIS IS WHAT THE PUNISHMENT IS GOING TO BE, 603 00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:31,067 THE STATUTE IN THIS STATE MADE A PROMISE TO THOSE PERSONS WHO 604 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,233 WERE SERVING THEIR TIME THAT IF YOU WENT IN AND DID WHAT YOU 605 00:42:36,367 --> 00:42:41,100 WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, WE WILL REVIEW AT THESE INTERVALS. 606 00:42:41,233 --> 00:42:52,633 IS WE NEVER DID THAT. WE HAVE LIFERS IN THERE. 607 00:42:52,767 --> 00:42:58,733 SO LET'S GET THE HISTORY. LET'S GOAT THE STORY COMPLETELY 608 00:42:58,867 --> 00:43:04,133 TO COMPLETE TO THE SENT THAT -- 609 00:43:04,267 --> 00:43:07,300 CLEMENCY IS ONE OF THE HARDEST THIS IS MOST OF THE WORLD TO 610 00:43:07,433 --> 00:43:10,133 GET. I WOULD MAKE A POINT THAT, IN 611 00:43:10,267 --> 00:43:15,733 THIS PACKAGE, THOSE LIFERS THAT HAD PAROLE ELIGIBILITY WHEN THEY 612 00:43:15,867 --> 00:43:19,933 WERE CONVICTED ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE. 613 00:43:20,067 --> 00:43:24,400 AFTER 40 YEARS. RIGHT, WHICH WAS THE 614 00:43:24,533 --> 00:43:26,433 SENTENCING IS STRUCTURE WHEN THEY WERE CONVICTED. 615 00:43:26,567 --> 00:43:29,933 . 20 TO LIFE. 616 00:43:30,067 --> 00:43:32,933 THEY'VE ALREADY DONE 20 YEARS MORE THAN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO 617 00:43:33,067 --> 00:43:35,100 DO. MOST OF THEM WILL BE ELIGIBLE 618 00:43:35,233 --> 00:43:38,967 BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 40 YEAR. 619 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:49,167 TWO YEARS SHORT OF 40. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS. 620 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,767 ELIGIBLE JUST MEANS -- AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC AND 621 00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:57,933 THE D.A.S AND EVERYBODY GETS CONFUSED. 622 00:43:58,067 --> 00:44:02,500 BEING ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE JUST MEANS THAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR A 623 00:44:02,633 --> 00:44:06,067 LOAN AND GOAT YOUR HOUSE BUT YOU HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS TO DO IT. 624 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,933 SO IF ELIGIBLE -- ALL THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO BECOME ELIGIBLE, 625 00:44:12,067 --> 00:44:18,933 WHEN THEY GET TO THE PARDON BOARD THE D.A. GOING TO RETRY 626 00:44:19,067 --> 00:44:21,433 THEM AGAIN. THAT'S JUST UNFAIR. 627 00:44:21,567 --> 00:44:25,267 BECAUSE CLEMENCY IS MERCY. SO I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I WAS 628 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,167 SUPPOSE TO DO BUT THE VICTIM GETS THIS FREE THING THAT YOU 629 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,133 CAN NEVER CHANGE. VICTIM OPPOSITION, LAW 630 00:44:32,267 --> 00:44:36,567 ENFORCEMENT OPPOSITION AND THE NATURE OF ANY MY OFFENSE. 631 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:40,967 I CAN NEVER CHANGE THAT. O D.O. THE VICTIMS HAVE TOO 632 00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:48,067 MUCH INFLUENCE IN IN PROCESS? ABSOLUTE NOT. 633 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:53,033 THEY DID NOTHING WRONG. AND THIS PROCESS IS A PROCESS 634 00:44:53,167 --> 00:44:57,633 THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE. THE VICTIM SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT 635 00:44:57,767 --> 00:44:59,833 TO GO IN -- DO THEY HAVE TOO MUCH 636 00:44:59,967 --> 00:45:02,700 INFLUENCE? THE PAROLE BOARD RIGHT NOW, 637 00:45:02,833 --> 00:45:06,400 IF PAROLE BOARD FOR SOMEONE TO GET PAROLE RIGHT NOW IS NOT A 638 00:45:06,533 --> 00:45:10,333 MAJORITY. THAT WAS CHANGED BACK A COUPLE 639 00:45:10,467 --> 00:45:13,633 YEARS AGO. I USED TO BE A UNANIMOUS 640 00:45:13,767 --> 00:45:15,200 VERDICT. THAT HAS CHANGED WITH NO 641 00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:19,133 OPPOSITION. AND WE NEED TO DO A BETTER 642 00:45:19,267 --> 00:45:24,900 JOB AT THAT IN GETTING VICTIMS INVOLVE ON THE FRONT END. 643 00:45:25,033 --> 00:45:27,100 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THIS IS THAT COME OUT OF THAT. 644 00:45:27,233 --> 00:45:31,267 WHEN WE GET THE VICTIM AND THE OFFENDER TOGETHER, VOLUNTEERLY. 645 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,200 BUT THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. 646 00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:40,033 I REN A YOUNG LADY OUT OF NEW YORK WHO WORKED FOR THE 647 00:45:40,167 --> 00:45:43,533 INNOCENCE PROJECT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS SHE TALKED ABOUT IS 648 00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:47,400 GETTING THE VICTIMS INVOLVED EARLY ON IS KEY HERE. 649 00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:51,833 AND FORGIVE NECESSARY MEANS A LOT. 650 00:45:51,967 --> 00:45:56,067 THE VICTIMS AT SOME POINT HAVE TO FORGIVE, I BELIEVE AND IF WE 651 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,500 WORK WITH THEM -- NOT EVERY CASE. 652 00:45:58,633 --> 00:46:01,867 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY CASE. 653 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,200 BUT WE HAVE 4900 LIFERS, AND I'M SURE THERE'S A GROUP OUT THERE 654 00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:11,467 THAT CAN EARN THEIR WAY OUT. I WANT TO GET TO SOME MORE 655 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,600 QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK 656 00:46:13,733 --> 00:46:18,000 YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND TO DO ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING. 657 00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:23,300 I THINK I'M THE ONLY EDUCATOR HERE AND MY QUESTION IS THIS: 658 00:46:23,433 --> 00:46:30,700 HOW CAN WE PREVENT ALL OF THIS? WHAT CAN I DO AS A MOM, AS A 659 00:46:30,833 --> 00:46:39,400 CITIZEN, AS A TEACHER, AS A VOLUNTEER, TO STOP THE TRAINING 660 00:46:39,533 --> 00:46:42,700 THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AFTER BEING INCARCERATED. 661 00:46:42,833 --> 00:46:45,967 THE JUDGE SAID, I LISTENED TO YOU CAREFULLY. 662 00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:53,500 WHAT CAN YOU TELL US AS A SYSTEM, COMING TOGETHER AT HOME, 663 00:46:53,633 --> 00:47:01,233 AT SCHOOL, THE CHURCHES, THE LAWYERS COME IN, YMCA AND YOU 664 00:47:01,367 --> 00:47:06,067 NAME IT TO HEM OUR CHILDREN? THANK YOU. 665 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,333 I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. ONE OF THE THINGS MY TRAINING IS 666 00:47:09,467 --> 00:47:14,700 I HAVE WORKED VERY DIRECTLY AND FOCUSED ON INCARCERATED PARENTS. 667 00:47:14,833 --> 00:47:20,267 AND BECAUSE OF OF MY BACKGROUND, I'VE REALLY LATCHED ON TO THIS 668 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,667 FACT THAT WHEN CHILDREN ARE NOT PROPERLY NURTURED THEN ALL KINDS 669 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,067 OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN. YOU SAY WHAT CAN BE DONE. 670 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,300 I IN THE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLY 671 00:47:30,433 --> 00:47:34,867 CHILDHOOD PROGRAMS VERY RARELY ARE THE PARENTS INCLUDED IN THAT 672 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200 EQUATION AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE GOT TO HAPPEN. 673 00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:43,633 BECAUSE HERE'S THE FACT IS, WE ALL PARENT LIKE WE WERE 674 00:47:43,767 --> 00:47:45,667 PARENTED. HOW MANY PEOPLE IN HERE WHEN YOU 675 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,667 FOUND OUT I WERE HAVING A BABY SAID LET ME GO OUT AND SIGN UP 676 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:58,600 FOR A PARENTING CLASS. WE HAVE THAT WEALTH OF 677 00:47:58,733 --> 00:48:01,333 INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US ABOUT CHILD BRAIN DEVELOPMENT 678 00:48:01,467 --> 00:48:06,700 AND I WILL SIT IN MY CLASSES AND I CAN POINT OUT WHICH PERSON WAS 679 00:48:06,833 --> 00:48:10,133 NOT NURTURED AS A CHILD. AND A LOT OF TIMES THE REASON 680 00:48:10,267 --> 00:48:13,367 THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE SO EFFECTIVE IS BECAUSE WE REACH IT 681 00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:16,300 TO THAT INDIVIDUAL AND WE GIVE THEM THAT GUIDANCE THAT THEY 682 00:48:16,433 --> 00:48:20,200 NEVER HAD. SO BUT FOR THE -- THE QUESTION 683 00:48:20,333 --> 00:48:25,267 THAT YOU'RE ASKING, WE REALLY HAVE GOT TO ENGAGEPARENTS IN 684 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,867 WHATEVER WAY WE CAN TO BE A PART OF THEIR CHILD'S LIFE BECAUSE 685 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,233 MANY OF THEM DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 686 00:48:30,367 --> 00:48:33,367 AND IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT DRUG ADDICTIONINGS AND MENTAL 687 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:37,000 HEALTH ISSUES, THE CHILDREN JUST KIND OF GO OUT THE WINDOW. 688 00:48:37,133 --> 00:48:39,167 AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING. 689 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:44,500 WE'RE SEEING SECOND CAN THIRD GENERATION OF CHILDREN THAT HAVE 690 00:48:44,633 --> 00:48:47,700 BEEN THROWN AWAY, IF NOT PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY. 691 00:48:47,833 --> 00:48:51,067 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND THAT'S A GREET QUESTION. 692 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,433 AND AS AN EXAMPLE, IN THE DISTRICT THE 16TH JUDICIAL 693 00:48:55,567 --> 00:48:58,133 DISTRICT. THE FORMER D.A. STARTED A 694 00:48:58,267 --> 00:49:02,300 PROSECUTORS EARLY INTERVENTION PROGRAM AND THAT THAT CAME FROM 695 00:49:02,433 --> 00:49:04,433 HIS WIFE WHO WAS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER. 696 00:49:04,567 --> 00:49:07,100 SHE SAID CAN I POINT TO THIS PERSON AND THIS PERSON AND I'M 697 00:49:07,233 --> 00:49:09,700 GOING TO THEY WILL YOU THEY'VE GOING TO END UP IN THE SYSTEM. 698 00:49:09,833 --> 00:49:13,633 AND IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 699 00:49:13,767 --> 00:49:19,900 WHERE WE IDENTIFY AT NEED CHILDREN THROUGH THE EDUCATORS. 700 00:49:20,033 --> 00:49:23,867 THEY'RE COMING TO SCHOOL THEY'RE HUNGRY, THEY'RE FALLING ASLEEP. 701 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,567 SO IF THE PARENT IS NOT RESPONDING TO THE SCHOOL THEY 702 00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:36,600 ENGAGE THE D.A.'S OFFICE. WE SEND A TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS. 703 00:49:36,733 --> 00:49:39,967 THEY FINDS OFTENTIMES YOU HAVE A MOTHER WHO'S ADDICTED TO DRUGS 704 00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,767 AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HOME IN WEEKS AND YOU HAVE A SIXTH 705 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:48,500 GRADER TAKING CARE OF THEIR SIBLINGS. 706 00:49:48,633 --> 00:49:52,467 SO WE PROVIDE PARENTING SKILLS, DRUG COUNSELING, GET THE 707 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,800 CHILDREN SOME FIELDING PROGRAMS AND THEIR GRADES SHOOT UP. 708 00:49:56,933 --> 00:49:59,967 AND THIS PROGRAM WAS IS THAT RIGHTED BY THE McARTHUR 709 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:03,000 FOUNDATION. IT WAS RECOGNIZED AS A MODEL 710 00:50:03,133 --> 00:50:06,933 PROGRAM NOT ONLY FOR THE STATE OF LOUISIANA BUT FOR THE WHOLE 711 00:50:07,067 --> 00:50:08,600 NATION. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE STATE 712 00:50:08,733 --> 00:50:13,900 BUDGET GETS CUT, AND NOW WE'RE HANGING ON BY A THREAD. 713 00:50:14,033 --> 00:50:19,600 BUT IT'S A PROGRAM HAS PROVED STATISTICS AND DATA THAT IT DUDS 714 00:50:19,733 --> 00:50:23,000 WORKS AND THAT'S ONE WAY I WOULD SUGGEST IS EXACTLY THAT. 715 00:50:23,133 --> 00:50:26,233 THAT MONEY SPENT ON THE FRONT END IS SO IMPORTANT THAT DOESN'T 716 00:50:26,367 --> 00:50:29,700 SOMEONE DOESN'T ENDS UP IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 717 00:50:29,833 --> 00:50:33,133 THE INVESTMENT SIDE NEEDS TO COME INTO PLAY HERE. 718 00:50:33,267 --> 00:50:35,800 THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING 719 00:50:35,933 --> 00:50:40,633 IN, PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR EDUCATORS WITH OUR BUSINESS 720 00:50:40,767 --> 00:50:43,900 PEOPLE, OUR FAITH BASSED COMMUNITIES. 721 00:50:44,033 --> 00:50:45,000 THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 722 00:50:45,133 --> 00:50:48,733 AND I WANT TO ECHO, I THINK SO YOUR QUESTION IS THE MOST 723 00:50:48,867 --> 00:50:51,433 CENTRAL OF THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION BECAUSE UNLESS WE 724 00:50:51,567 --> 00:50:55,333 TALK ABOUT HOW TO PREVENT FOLKS FROM COMMITTING IN CRIMES TO 725 00:50:55,467 --> 00:50:59,667 BEGIN WITH, I THINK WE'LL ALWAYS BE IN THIS CIRCULAR REASONING. 726 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:05,433 AND I THINK MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT BY BEING THE MOST 727 00:51:05,567 --> 00:51:09,900 PUNITIVE WITH REGARD TO OUR SENTENCES ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE 728 00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:14,033 DOING IS WE ARE TREATING MOST HARSHLY CHILDREN WHO ARE 729 00:51:14,167 --> 00:51:17,367 SUFFERING FROM SEVERE TRAUMA. AND I THINK FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN 730 00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:23,000 INVOLVE IN THE COURT SYSTEM AND NOW WITH THED A VENT OF RESEARCH 731 00:51:23,133 --> 00:51:27,600 AROUND TRAUMA, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS WE'VE 732 00:51:27,733 --> 00:51:31,033 TAKEN CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO VIOLENCE AND TRAUMA 733 00:51:31,167 --> 00:51:34,500 AND HURT AND HARM AT A VERY EARLY AGE FROM THE TIME THEY 734 00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:38,833 WERE THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO SHOCK THEM WITH 735 00:51:38,967 --> 00:51:40,933 THAT SAME KIND OF HARSH TREATMENT. 736 00:51:41,067 --> 00:51:44,900 AND WE'VE SEEN HORRIBLE RESULTS. SO WE REALLY NEED TO REALIZE AND 737 00:51:45,033 --> 00:51:50,867 EMBRACE A SYSTEM THAT IS OBVIOUSLY, WHICH THE -- THE 738 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,533 SYSTEM OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SHOULD BE REHABILITATIVE, TAKING 739 00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:59,533 CHILDREN AND EMBRACING TRAUMA INFORMED TEACHINGS AND TRAUMA 740 00:51:59,667 --> 00:52:03,500 INFORMED WAYS OF HELPING CHILDREN COPE WITH THE KIND OF 741 00:52:03,633 --> 00:52:05,333 EXPERIENCES WE KNOW THEY'RE DEALING 742 00:52:05,467 --> 00:52:07,833 DEALING WITH. AND WE CANNOT LEAVE OUT HOW WE 743 00:52:07,967 --> 00:52:11,600 DEAL WITH SENTENCING. BECAUSE WE CAN'T FEED THEM AND 744 00:52:11,733 --> 00:52:14,633 CLOTHE THEM AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO UP 745 00:52:14,767 --> 00:52:21,000 FRONT BUT THEN THE FIRST TIME THEY FALL DOWN, WE SHIP THEM 746 00:52:21,133 --> 00:52:28,633 AWAY FOR THE RE OF THEIR LIFE. I'M SPEAKING AS MY OWN PERSON, I 747 00:52:28,767 --> 00:52:30,333 BELIEVE THAT IS A KEY PART OF IT. 748 00:52:30,467 --> 00:52:34,733 WE HAVE GOT TO DEAL WITH CHILDREN NOT AS SUPER PREDATORS, 749 00:52:34,867 --> 00:52:39,233 BUT AS CHILDREN AND THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE LEADING US GOING 750 00:52:39,367 --> 00:52:41,233 FORWARD. SO WE HAVE TO BE BETTER WITH HOW 751 00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:43,333 WE TREAT OUR CHILDREN. WE'RE PRETTY MUCH OUT OF 752 00:52:43,467 --> 00:52:45,033 TIME. SO I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THOSE 753 00:52:45,167 --> 00:52:47,633 OF YOU THAT DIDN'T GET A CHALLENGES TO ASK A QUESTION. 754 00:52:47,767 --> 00:52:52,133 BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL A CHANCE TO MAKE A BRIEF CLOSING 755 00:52:52,267 --> 00:52:54,833 COMMENT BEFORE WE WRAP UP. I THINK SO THE ONE THING THAT 756 00:52:54,967 --> 00:52:58,733 I WOULD WANT THE IMPART IS THE FACT THAT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY 757 00:52:58,867 --> 00:53:02,967 AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS COMING 758 00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,067 TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAT ONE OF THE KEY THIS 759 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,867 IS THAT I'M FINDING AND BELIEVE ME, I'M A NEOPHYTE WHEN IT COMES 760 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,033 TO THE LEGISLATURE AND WATCHING THAT PROCESS. 761 00:53:13,167 --> 00:53:18,900 CITIZENS HAVE TO GET INVOLVED. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY 762 00:53:19,033 --> 00:53:23,833 IMPORTANT ISSUE AND IT IS. IT IS IMPACTING EVERY ASPECT OF 763 00:53:23,967 --> 00:53:26,300 OUR LIFE HERE IN OUR GREAT STATE. 764 00:53:26,433 --> 00:53:30,167 AND SO CITIZENS NEED TO GET INVOLVED. YOU NEED TO GO DOWN 765 00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,067 AND SPEAK TO YOUR LEGISLATOR. YOU NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT 766 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,100 YOU BELIEVE IN, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. 767 00:53:39,233 --> 00:53:43,600 SOME LEGISLATORS COME BACK AND VOTE NO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE 768 00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:47,200 ROAD AND THEIR COMMENT BACK TO ME IS SAYING WELL BECAUSE I 769 00:53:47,333 --> 00:53:51,333 DON'T WANT ANY CONSTITUENTS WOULDN'T LIKE ME DOING THAT. 770 00:53:51,467 --> 00:53:56,067 AND THEN WE HAVE THE SURVEY THAT SAYS NO, THEY DO WANT YOU TO 771 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,867 REFORM THE SYSTEM. SO THERE'S A DISCONNECT AND WE 772 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,600 AS THE PEOPLE MUST COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND 773 00:54:03,733 --> 00:54:07,033 LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE THINK AND FEEL. 774 00:54:07,167 --> 00:54:09,633 BRIEFLY. I WOULD JUST END BY SAYING 775 00:54:09,767 --> 00:54:13,633 THAT WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM. INCARCERATION IS DEFINITELY A 776 00:54:13,767 --> 00:54:16,767 PROBLEM, AND REALLY APPRECIATE AND I'M PROUD TO SAY IN THIS 777 00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:21,633 PROCESS THAT WE WORK TOGETHER IN THE DIFFERENT STAKE HOLDERS IN 778 00:54:21,767 --> 00:54:24,000 HERE. WE PUT A LOT OF THINGS ASIDE 779 00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:27,800 WHEN WE'RE WORKING, WHILE WE MAY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES, I 780 00:54:27,933 --> 00:54:32,833 THINK SO WE MAY HAVE SOME LEGISLATION THAT CAN REALLY MAYE 781 00:54:32,967 --> 00:54:36,867 A DIFFERENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I 782 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:44,100 THINK EACH OF US IS BETTER THAN THE WORST THING THAT WE'VE EVER 783 00:54:44,233 --> 00:54:46,167 DONE. A PERSON WHO'S COMMITTED A THEFT 784 00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:52,000 IS NOT JUST A THIEF. AND SOL SO I KNOW THE WORK THAT 785 00:54:52,133 --> 00:54:55,633 WE'VE DONE TOGETHER DEMONSTRATES THAT WE CAN FIND COMMON GROUND 786 00:54:55,767 --> 00:54:59,033 MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS NOT OF A ZERO SUM GAME. 787 00:54:59,167 --> 00:55:02,067 WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO 788 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,200 CONTINUE PUSHING FORWARD, TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD AND TO 789 00:55:06,333 --> 00:55:10,133 APPLY PRESSURE, SO MOVE FORWARD IN THE WAYS THAT WE KNOW THE 790 00:55:10,267 --> 00:55:17,100 COMMUNITY WILL MAKE US SAFER, AS LONG AS -- STRONGER AND ALLOW US 791 00:55:17,233 --> 00:55:21,533 TO BE MORE PREDICTIVE. WHEN I LOOK BACK ON THE LAST 792 00:55:21,667 --> 00:55:25,033 YEAR AND THE EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WORKING WITH THE GROUP THAT WE 793 00:55:25,167 --> 00:55:30,967 WORKINGED WITH, I REALLY JUST WANT TO THANK THE GROUP. 794 00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:35,300 THE TASK FORCE. I SAID AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE 795 00:55:35,433 --> 00:55:38,600 IT'S KIND OF DREAM COME TRUE FOR ME AFTER 40 YEARS THAT WE ARE IN 796 00:55:38,733 --> 00:55:44,100 A GOOD SPOT TODAY AND I WOULD AND ASK THAT PEOPLE TALK TO 797 00:55:44,233 --> 00:55:48,333 THEIR LEGISLATORS AFTER THIS. HOWEVER YOU FEEL AND I HOPE THAT 798 00:55:48,467 --> 00:55:51,867 YOU SUPPORT A PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AND WE STILL HAVE 799 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,300 A WAYS TO GO. THANK YOU ALL. 800 00:55:54,433 --> 00:55:59,267 SO WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME FOR OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER SEGMENT. 801 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:05,033 WE'LL LIKE TO THANK OUR PANELISTS FOR THEIR INSIGHT ON 802 00:56:05,167 --> 00:56:08,367 THIS MONTH'S TOPICS. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY'VE 803 00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:12,233 CONTRIBUTED TONIGHT. WHEN WE COME BACK WE'LL HAVE A 804 00:56:12,367 --> 00:56:20,600 FEW CLOSING COMMENTS. . 805 00:56:20,733 --> 00:56:22,200 BOB, WHAT A GREAT CONVERSATION. 806 00:56:22,333 --> 00:56:25,767 IF YOU GO ON FOR A LONG TIME. BUT WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON ALL THE 807 00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:30,167 ISSUES. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES 808 00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:32,867 FOR MENTAL HEALTH CLINICS. BAIL IS STILL A PROBLEM. 809 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,767 BUT I HOPE WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ONLINE. 810 00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:41,733 I HOPE SO TOO. PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE. 811 00:56:41,867 --> 00:56:44,333 THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR THIS ADDITION OF "LOUISIANA 812 00:56:44,467 --> 00:56:48,333 PUBLIC SQUARE." WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT OUR 813 00:56:48,467 --> 00:56:52,567 WEBSITE OF. WHILE YOU'RE THERE CHECK OUT THE 814 00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:57,000 TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH AS WELL AS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 815 00:56:57,133 --> 00:57:00,367 REFORM SURVEY. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO COMMENT 816 00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:03,867 ON OUR SHOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 817 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,033 . EARLIER IN YEAR THE 818 00:57:06,167 --> 00:57:11,567 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DECIDED NOT TO PRESS CHARGES AGAINST TWO 819 00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:14,867 POLICE OFFICERS IN THE SHOOTING DEATH OF ALTON STERLING. 820 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,700 "LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE" EXPLORED THIS ISSUE IN FEBRUARY 821 00:57:16,833 --> 00:57:20,967 ON BLACK AND THE BLUE. SO JOIN US FOR AN ON CORE 822 00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:24,067 PRESENTATION ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 28. 823 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,133 THANKS FORS WATCHING AND GOOD NIGHT.