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>>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO

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"LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE."

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TONIGHT'S TOPIC IS CHARTER

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CHECKUP.

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>> HELLO EVERYONE.

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I'M SHAUNA SANFORD.

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WHEN THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR BEGAN

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LAST MONTH, NEARLY 10% OF

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LOUISIANA'S 600,000 PUBLIC

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SCHOOL STUDENTS BOARDED BUSES

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BOUND TO CHARTER SCHOOLS.

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PRIOR TO HURRICANE KATRINA,

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CHARTER SCHOOLS WERE SOMETHING

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OF A RARITY.

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THEIR NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED

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170% SINCE THE STORM.

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WHILE THE MAJORITY ARE IN

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ORLEANS PARISH, CHARTER SCHOOLS

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ALSO OPERATE IN 19 OTHER

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PARISHES, INCLUDING CADDO,

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MOREHOUSE, AVOYELLES,

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CALCASIEU, ST. MARY, AND EAST

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>> WHAT IS THE DRIVING THE

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GROWTH OF PUBLIC CHARTER

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SCHOOLS IN THE STATE?

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ARE THEY DELIVERING PROMISED

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EDUCATIONAL DIVIDENDS OR

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PUTTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AT

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RISK.

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WHEN MEASURING SUCCESS, DO

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CHARTER SCHOOLS COMPETE WITH

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TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS ON A

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LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

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PUBLIC SQUARE LOOKS FOR

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ANSWERS.

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BY ALL ACCOUNTS, ALEXIANNA WAS

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RECEIVING A GOOD EDUCATION AT

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HER FORMER SCHOOL.

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ALL A'S AND ONE B ON HER REPORT

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CARD.

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BUT HER AUNT RECEIVED A REALITY

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CHECK OF BECOMING HER LEGAL

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GUARDIAN AND TRANSFERRING HER

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TO THE J.K. HAYNES CHARTER

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SCHOOL IN BATON ROUGE.

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>> WHEN SCHOOL START, I GET A

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LETTER HOME SAYING THAT SHE

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DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO READ OR ADD,

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SHE CAN READ AND ADD.

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I KNOW SHE CAN DO ALL OF THIS

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>> AFTER SITTING DOWN WITH

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MOORE, REALIZED THAT THIS CHILD

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WASN'T ABLE TO READ A SIMPLE

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SENTENCE OR DO A BASIC MATH

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>> I WASN'T ASHAMED FOR HER, I

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WAS ASHAMED BECAUSE THE SCHOOL

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LET HER DOWN.

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>> THROUGH CLASSROOM

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INSTRUCTION, AFTER-SCHOOL

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TUTORING, ALEXIANNA IS NOW IN

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THE FOURTH GRADE AND PERFORMING

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AT GRADE LEVEL.

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ALEXIANNA IS ONE OF THE OVER

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58,000 STUDENTS IN LOUISIANA

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ATTENDING THE CHARTER SCHOOL.

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OF THE STATE'S 1,303 PUBLIC

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SCHOOLS, 110 ARE CHARTERS.

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>> PART OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE

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A CHARTER SCHOOL, AUTONOMY, YOU

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AUTONOMY MEANS AROUND THINGS

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YOUR BUDGETING, HIRING, FIRING,

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STUDYING YOUR CURRICULUM.

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TEACHERS, PARENTS TO MAKE

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DECISIONS AS CLOSE TO THE

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STUDENT AS POSSIBLE.

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>> CAROLINE IS THE EXECUTIVE

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DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISIANA

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ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC CHARTER

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SCHOOLS.

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ROEMER NOTES WHILE CHARTER

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SCHOOLS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO SOME

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OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS

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THAT APPLY TO TRADITIONAL

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PUBLIC SCHOOL COUNTERPARTS,

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THEY ARE HELD TO MORE RIGOROUS

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ACCOUNTABILITY STANDARDS.

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ACADEMICS, FINANCE, AND

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GOVERNANCE.

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THOSE ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES

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ARE PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT

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WASTE, THEFT, THAT WE ARE BEING

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GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER

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DOLLARS AND WHEN WE'RE NOT AND

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THERE WILL BE CASES WHERE THERE

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ARE CHARTER SCHOOLS, JUST LIKE

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THERE HAVE BEEN SCHOOL

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DISTRICTS, THAT ARE NOT GOOD AT

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THAT PART OF IT, WE WILL NOT

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ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO

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OPERATE.

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>> SINCE 2000, 21 CHARTER

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SCHOOLS HAVE CLOSED IN THE

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>> WE ARE TOO QUICK TO SAY THAT

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PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE FAILING.

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AND THEN TRYING THESE

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EXPERIMENTS ON OUR CHILDREN.

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>> DEBBIE IS THE PRESIDENT OF

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THE LOUISIANA ASSOCIATION OF

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EDUCATORS.

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SHE SAID THAT THE LAE HAS MANY

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CONCERNS WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS,

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FROM INEXPERIENCED TEACH FOR

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AMERICA INSTRUCTORS IN THE

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CLASSROOM TO SELECTED STUDENT

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ENROLLMENT.

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>> CHARTER SCHOOLS TEND TO

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ADVERTISE THEMSELVES AS PUBLIC

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SCHOOLS AND THEREFORE, THEY

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TAKE ALL CHILDREN.

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BUT THERE ARE SOME CHARTER

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SCHOOLS THAT ARE SELECTIVE.

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SOME SCHOOLS HAVE CRITERIA ON

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THE FRONT END IN ORDER TO GET

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INTO THEM, THEY FRONT LOAD

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THEIR CRITERIA, AND IF YOU

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DON'T FIT THE CRITERIA, THEN

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YOU CANNOT BE A PART OF THE

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SCHOOL.

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OTHER CHARTER SCHOOLS WILL DO A

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MORE OPEN PROCESS, BUT

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SOMETIMES THE SAME CHARTER

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SCHOOLS WILL BACKLOAD THEIR

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CRITERIA.

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SO, A CHILD THAT IS TAKEN IN TO

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THE CHARTER SCHOOL SYSTEM MAY

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HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN CRITERIA

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MET BY THE PARENTS.

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THE KIDS THEMSELVES MAY HAVE TO

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MAINTAIN CERTAIN GRADE POINT

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AVERAGES.

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>> MEAUX AND OTHER CRITICS SAY

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THE SELECTIVE ADMISSIONS

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PROCESS TENDS TO SKEW

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PERFORMANCE DATA, LIKE THOSE

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RELEASED STANFORD UNIVERSITY

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CENTER FOR EDUCATION OUTCOMES,

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OR CREDO.

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THE AUGUST REPORT WHICH TRACKED

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LOUISIANA CHARTERS FROM 2005 TO

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2011, FOUND 41% OF CHARTER

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STUDENTS SHOWED LARGER GAINS IN

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READING AND 42% LARGER GAINS IN

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MATH COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL

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PUBLIC SCHOOL PEERS.

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>> PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS --

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THOSE ARE THE SCHOOLS KIDS GO

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TO IF THEY CAN'T GET INTO A

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CHARTER SCHOOL.

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IF YOU ARE REALLY TAKING THE

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LOWER PERFORMING KIDS WHO CAN'T

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GET INTO OTHER SCHOOLS, AND IT

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ONLY STANDS TO REASON THAT THE

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CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO

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OUTPERFORM THE TRADITIONAL

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SCHOOLS.

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>> KARRAN ROYAL IS A COMMUNITY

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ACTIVIST AND PARENT OF A

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STUDENT IN THE NEW ORLEANS

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PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

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SHE IS CRITICAL OF CHARTER

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PERFORMANCE AND CITES A REPORT

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ON RESEARCH FOR REFORMS,

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INDICATES THAT 78% OF THE

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THE RECOVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN

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NEW ORLEANS ARE RATED D OR F.

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>> CHARTER SCHOOLS IN AND OF

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THEMSELVES ARE NOT THE ANSWER

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TO WHY SOME URBAN SCHOOL

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DISTRICTS ARE NOT SERVING SOME

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CHILDREN WELL.

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WE REALLY NEED TO CONTINUE TO

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SEARCH FOR THE REAL REFORM.

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IF CHARTER SCHOOLS WERE THE

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ANSWER, I THINK SEVEN YEARS IN

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NEW ORLEANS SHOULD SHOW YOU

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SOME BETTER RESULTS THAN WHAT

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WE'RE SEEING.

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>> AFTER KATRINA, THE RECOVERY

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SCHOOL DISTRICT STARTED TAKING

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ON LARGE NUMBER OF --

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ORIGINALLY THREE QUARTERS OF

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THE SCHOOLS WERE F'S AND NOW A

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TINY NUMBER ARE F'S.

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THAT'S GREAT PROGRESS.

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>> JOHN WHITE SAYS THE NEW

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ORLEANS SCHOOLS WERE AT A LOW

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LEVEL WHEN THE STATE TOOK THEM

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HE EXPECTS EVEN MORE PROGRESS

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THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

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>> I DON'T THINK THAT THIS YEAR

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IN THE RECOVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT

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THAT THE SCHOOLS WILL HAVE D

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AND F GRADES.

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SOME OF THEM WILL, AS IN MANY

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DISTRICTS, BUT A LOT WILL BE

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B'S AND C'S.

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>> STANFORD STUDY INDICATES

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THAT CHARTER SCHOOLS ENROLL TWO

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PERCENT FEWER SPECIAL ED

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STUDENTS THAN TRADITIONAL

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PUBLIC SCHOOLS --

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>> CREDO REPORT ACTUALLY

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HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT

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LOUISIANA CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE

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DOG A -- ARE DOING AN

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ESPECIALLY INCREDIBLE JOB

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SERVING STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL

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NEEDS.

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>> ROEMER ADMITS --

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>> CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE PUBLIC

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SCHOOLS AND WHEN A FAMILY

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CHOOSES A CHARTER SCHOOL, AND,

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AGAIN, REMEMBER, THESE ARE

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SCHOOLS OF CHOICE.

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IT ONLY MAKES SENSE FOR THOSE

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DOLLARS TO FOLLOW THOSE

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FAMILIES.

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>> WHETHER YOU ARE A CHARTER

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SCHOOL OR TRADITIONAL PUBLIC

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SCHOOL ADVOCATE, ROEMER SAYS

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THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EDUCATION

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SOLUTIONS SHOULD FOCUS ON

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OUTCOMES.

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>> WE'RE CONSTANTLY YOU KNOW

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BATTLING EACH OTHER.

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I THINK IT IS TIME TO QUIT

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BEING SO CONTENTIOUS AND FOR

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INSTEAD US TO BE MORE

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COLLABORATIVE AS TEACHERS, AS

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EDUCATORS, ADMINISTRATORS, AS

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PARENTS AND STUDENTS, TO LOOK

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AT SCHOOLS THAT ARE GETTING IT

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DONE.

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WHATEVER KIND OF SCHOOL THAT IS

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AND BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE

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INNOVATIONS.

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>> JOINING US FOR WHAT WE HOPE

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WILL BE A COLLABORATIVE

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DISCUSSION ABOUT CHARTER

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SCHOOLS, RESIDENTS FROM THE

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GREATER BATON ROUGE AREA.

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ALSO JOINED BY REPRESENTATIVES

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OF BOTH THE TRADITIONAL PUBLIC

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AND CHARTER SCHOOLS AS WELL AS

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TWO STUDENTS FROM THE

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LEGISLATIVE YOUTH ADVISORY

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COUNCIL.

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WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO THE

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PROGRAM.

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IT IS SO GREAT TO HAVE YOU

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HERE.

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WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET TO YOUR

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THOUGHTS ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS

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AND WE WILL DO THAT IN A

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MOMENT.

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BUT FIRST, LSU'S PUBLIC POLICY

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RESEARCH LAB SURVEYED OVER 100

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CITIZENS AROUND THE STATE ON

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TONIGHT'S TOPIC.

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AMONG THE SURVEY RESPONSES,

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WHEN ASKED THEIR OPINION ABOUT

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ALLOWING PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOLS

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TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY AND

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FREE OF MANY OF THE REGULATIONS

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IMPOSED ON TRADITIONAL PUBLIC

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SCHOOLS, 56% OF THE RESPONDENTS

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FAVORED THE IDEA.

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24% OPPOSED THE IDEA OF CHARTER

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SCHOOLS, AND 22% WERE UNSURE.

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WHEN INFORMED THAT MOST

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CHARTERS IN THE STATE ARE UNDER

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THE JURISDICTION OF THE

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DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, VERSUS

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A LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, LIKE

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THEIR TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL

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COUNTERPARTS, 60% OF THOSE

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SURVEYED FAVORED HAVING LOCAL

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CONTROL OF CHARTER SCHOOLS.

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33% ACTUALLY SUPPORTED THE IDEA

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OF HAVING THE STATE CONTROL

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CHARTER SCHOOLS.

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AND 7% WERE UNSURE.

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IT'S A CONSISTENTLY -- IF A

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CONSISTENTLY POOR PERFORMING

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SCHOOL -- 60% RECOMMEND KEEPING

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THE SCHOOL OPEN AND PROVIDING

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OUTSIDE SUPPORT.

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EQUAL PERCENTAGE OF THOSE

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SURVEYED, 16%, WOULD REOPEN THE

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SCHOOL AS A CHARTER SCHOOL OR

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REOPEN THE SCHOOL WITH A NEW

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PRINCIPAL.

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8% OF RESPONDENTS WOULD CLOSE

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THE SCHOOL AND SEND THE

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STUDENTS TO BETTER NEARBY

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SCHOOLS.

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14% WERE EITHER UNSURE OR

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REFUSED TO ANSWER.

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AND LASTLY, WHEN ASKED ABOUT

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THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION THAT

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STUDENTS RECEIVE AT A PUBLIC

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CHARTER SCHOOL COMPARED TO A

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TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL, 45%

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SAID THEY BELIEVE THAT IT

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DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

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44% BELIEVE CHARTER STUDENTS

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WOULD RECEIVE A BETTER

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EDUCATION, 5% BELIEVE STUDENTS

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WOULD RECEIVE A WORSE EDUCATION

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AT A CHARTER SCHOOL.

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WE ARE GOING TO START THERE

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WITH OUR STUDIO AUDIENCE BASED

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ON YOUR OPINION, PERSONAL

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EXPERIENCE S, DO YOU THINK THAT

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PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR THAT CHARTER

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SCHOOLS OFFER A BETTER

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EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY THAN

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THE TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS?

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LET'S START WITH YOU, DIANA.

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YOU OPERATE A CHARTER SCHOOL.

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J.K. HAYNES CHARTER SCHOOL IN

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EAST BATON ROUGE.

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THE STUDENT WHO WE SAW IN OUR

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PIECE ATTENDS YOUR SCHOOL.

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HER MOTHER MADE VERY

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INTERESTING COMMENTS.

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I'M SURE YOU HEARD MANY TIMES

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BEFORE FROM OTHER PARENTS.

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BUT HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE

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YOU ARE ON THIS ISSUE.

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>> J.K. HAYNES HAS BEEN A

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CHARTER SCHOOL SINCE 1997.

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WHEN WE STARTED OUR CHARTER

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SCHOOL, WE WERE TYPE ONE, THE

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EDR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

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WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE

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SCHOOL SYSTEM.

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WE ARE A SCHOOL OF CHOICE.

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WE ARE NOT TRYING TO COMPETE

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WITH THE REGULAR PUBLIC SCHOOL.

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WE WORK TOGETHER.

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AND WE HAVE DONE THIS FOR THE

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PAST 15 TO 16 YEARS.

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WE DO A LOT OF NURTURING AT

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J.K. HAYNES CHARTER.

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OUR STUDENTS ARE JUST

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WONDERFUL.

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WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PARENTAL

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SUPPORT.

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WE HAVE DONE A LOT WITH OUR

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STUDENTS AT THE J.K. HAYNES

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CHARTER.

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>> SCOTT, I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR

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OPINION ON THIS.

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WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT

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CHARTER SCHOOLS AND WHAT ROLE

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THEY SHOULD PLAY, IF ANY?

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>> SHAUNA, I THINK THE ONLY

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OBJECTIVE WAY TO ANSWER THAT

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TYPE OF QUESTION IS TO LOOK AT

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THE DATA THAT EXISTS.

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AND WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THE

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ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM THAT THE

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STATE HAS IN PLACE OR DISAGREE

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WITH IT, IT IS WHAT JUDGES,

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CHARTER SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC

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SCHOOLS AND STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT

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IN LOUISIANA.

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AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF

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STUDENTS IN LOUISIANA ATTEND

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SCHOOLS, TRADITIONAL PUBLIC

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SCHOOLS RUN BY LOCAL SCHOOL

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BOARDS, AND THE VAST MAJORITY

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OF OUR SCHOOLS IN LOUISIANA ARE

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A, B, OR C SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

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WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECOVERY

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SCHOOL DISTRICT NEW ORLEANS,

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AND RECOVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT

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LOUISIANA, AND YOU LOOK AT

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THEIR LETTER GRADES -- RECOVERY

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SCHOOL DISTRICT LOUISIANA

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CURRENT LETTER GRADE OF F.

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RECOVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT OF NEW

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ORLEANS HAS A LETTER GRADE OF

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D.

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WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE ON

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THE ISSUES, THAT IS THE WAY

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WE'RE JUDGED AS SCHOOL SYSTEMS

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BY THE CURRENT STATE

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ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.

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>> IS IT BELINDA?

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YOUR FEELINGS.

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>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CHARTER

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SCHOOLS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO

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THINK ABOUT THE TYPE OF CHARTER

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SCHOOL THAT YOU ARE TALKING

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ABOUT.

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SO, FOR ME, WHEN I EXAMINE THE

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BATON ROUGE AREA ACHIEVEMENT

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ZONE AND LOOK AT THE CHARTER

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SCHOOLS, I THINK THERE ARE

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SEVEN SCHOOLS IN THE BATON

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ROUGE ACHIEVEMENT ZONE, I THINK

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THAT THEY ARE STRUGGLING.

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WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, THEIR TEST

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SCORES SLIDE AFTER THEY'RE

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TAKEN OVER BY THE RECOVERY

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SCHOOL DISTRICT AND MOST OF THE

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SCHOOLS HAVE NOT RECOVERED YET.

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THESE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT ARE  --

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I HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF

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CONVERSATION WITH PARENTS IN

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CHARTER SCHOOLS WHERE THEY'RE

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FRUSTRATED ABOUT HOW LONG IT IS

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TAKING FOR CHARTERS TO BE

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REPLACED.

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THEY HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN

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WHAT IS A QUALITY CHARTER.

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SOME CASES -- RECOVERY SCHOOL

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DISTRICT, DIRECT ONES WITHOUT A

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CHARTER FOR THREE YEARS NOW.

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AND PARENTS ARE FRUSTRATED BY

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THE TURNOVER AMONG THEIR

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ADMINISTRATION AND NOT KNOWING

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EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH

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THEIR CHILDREN.

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>> YOU HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE

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IN DEALING WITH CHARTERS.

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TALK A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR

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EXPERIENCE.

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>> WE OPERATE AT CAPITOL HIGH

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SCHOOL FOR THREE YEARS.

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ONE THING THAT WE LEARNED IS

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THE CONCEPT OF SCHOOL

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PERFORMANCE SCORES IS THE

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PROBLEM.

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YOU HAVE TO MEASURE STUDENTS.

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WHEN CAPITAL WAS PUT IN THE

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RECOVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND

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MOST OF THE STUDENTS FLED TO

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THE EDR SYSTEM, WE WERE LEFT

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WITH A DIFFERENT STUDENT BODY

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THAN WHAT ORIGINALLY EXISTED AT

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CAPITOL.

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WE HAD TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO

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EDUCATE THE STUDENT BODY.

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WE THOUGHT IT WAS A FAILED

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MODEL.

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AND WE RETURNED CAPITOL TO

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THE -- AFTER THE THIRD YEAR, WE

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WERE DOING ACCEPTABLE TO BESSY

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BUT NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US.

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BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE MODEL

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WAS A FAILED MODEL.

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>> THE FRUSTRATION THAT PARENTS

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HAVE.

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YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE PARENTS

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ARE COMING FROM.

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>> YES.

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THE QUESTION IS CHARTER SCHOOLS

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FOR US WAS NOT CAN A NEW

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CHARTER SCHOOL OPEN FREE OF

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CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS AND

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SUCCEED?

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IT IS CAN A CHARTER OPERATOR

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TAKE OVER A RECOVERY SCHOOL

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DISTRICT SCHOOL, A FAILING

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SCHOOL, AND THEN TAKE THAT

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STUDENT BODY AND TURN THAT

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STUDENT BODY AROUND?

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THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE HAVE TO

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MEASURE.

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YOU CAN'T MEASURE THE SCHOOL.

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YOU HAVE TO MEASURE THE

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IMPROVEMENT WITH INDIVIDUAL

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STUDENTS.

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AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE THE

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PLAYING FIELD E  EQUAL.

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>> WE HEARD IT IN THE PACKAGE

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THAT THE CHARTER SCHOOL CAN BE

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SELECTIVE.

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TALKING ABOUT EDUCATING ALL

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KIDS.

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PUBLIC SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE THE

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ABILITY TO TURN AWAY KIDS.

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THEY HAVE TO EDUCATE THE KIDS

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WHO ACTUALLY COME TO THEM.

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YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

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>> I THINK IT IS AN UNTRUE

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CONCEPT SAYING THAT CHARTER

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SCHOOLS ARE SELECTIVE.

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I AM HEAD OF A SCHOOL OF AN

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OPEN ENROLL CHARTER SCHOOLS IN

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NEW ORLEANS AND WE ARE

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PERFORMING IN ORLEANS PARISH

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SCHOOLING SYSTEM.

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WE HAVE PERFORMING CHARTER

527
00:16:08,933 --> 00:16:11,500
SCHOOLS -- I THINK THAT WE HAVE

528
00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:12,667
TO LOOK AT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS

529
00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:14,167
FROM THE CONCEPT THAT WE ARE

530
00:16:14,167 --> 00:16:15,467
MAKING GAINS.

531
00:16:15,467 --> 00:16:17,233
WE ARE HAVING SUCCESSFUL

532
00:16:17,233 --> 00:16:18,500
CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT ARE

533
00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:20,167
IMPACTING OUR YOUTH IN NEW

534
00:16:20,167 --> 00:16:21,567
ORLEANS AND MAKING A

535
00:16:21,567 --> 00:16:22,100
DIFFERENCE.

536
00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:24,567
ORLEANS PARISH, ACROSS THE

537
00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:26,067
BOARD, OUR CHARTER SCHOOL

538
00:16:26,067 --> 00:16:30,233
SYSTEM IS OUTPACING THE PUBLIC

539
00:16:30,233 --> 00:16:32,500
SCHOOL SYSTEM AND -- WITH ALL

540
00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:34,567
STUDENTS, NOT SELECTIVE

541
00:16:34,567 --> 00:16:34,967
STUDENTS.

542
00:16:34,967 --> 00:16:36,500
>> YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT

543
00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:36,933
SELECTIVE.

544
00:16:36,933 --> 00:16:38,400
>> NOT SELECTIVE.

545
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,467
>> ARE YOU SAYING ALL CHARTER

546
00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:39,900
SCHOOLS?

547
00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:41,500
>> ALL OF US HAVE A POLICY WHEN

548
00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:43,800
IT COMES TO ENROLLMENT.

549
00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,833
EVERY CHILD IN NEW ORLEANS HAS

550
00:16:44,833 --> 00:16:45,933
THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE

551
00:16:45,933 --> 00:16:47,067
CHARTER SCHOOLS ACROSS THE

552
00:16:47,067 --> 00:16:48,167
BOARD CITY WIDE.

553
00:16:48,167 --> 00:16:49,433
LET'S GET YOUR COMMENT.

554
00:16:49,433 --> 00:16:52,667
>> I PERSONALLY GO TO A CHARTER

555
00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:53,233
SCHOOL.

556
00:16:53,233 --> 00:16:55,067
AND I MEAN, WE'RE SUCCEEDING.

557
00:16:55,067 --> 00:16:56,700
I KNOW THAT FROM PERSONAL

558
00:16:56,700 --> 00:16:57,367
EXPERIENCE.

559
00:16:57,367 --> 00:16:59,067
I'VE GONE THERE SINCE

560
00:16:59,067 --> 00:16:59,800
KINDERGARTEN.

561
00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,733
BUT LIKE WITH THE WHOLE -- WE

562
00:17:01,733 --> 00:17:03,733
OPERATE UNDER A LOTTERY SYSTEM.

563
00:17:03,733 --> 00:17:05,300
I MEAN EVERYBODY IS WELCOME TO

564
00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:07,767
APPLY FOR OUR LOTTERY SYSTEM,

565
00:17:07,767 --> 00:17:09,733
BUT CERTAIN ARE CHOSEN, BUT I

566
00:17:09,733 --> 00:17:11,033
MEAN, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENTS

567
00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:12,200
FOR IT.

568
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,567
BUT I THINK WHAT THE COMMON

569
00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:16,067
MISCONCEPTION IS THAT WE GET

570
00:17:16,067 --> 00:17:17,367
STUDENTS THAT ALREADY HAVE BEEN

571
00:17:17,367 --> 00:17:19,000
MOLDED, BUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO

572
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,733
IS WE TAKE IN STUDENTS AND MOLD

573
00:17:20,733 --> 00:17:22,000
THEM INTO THE STUDENTS THAT

574
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,867
THEY NEED TO BE.

575
00:17:22,867 --> 00:17:25,000
AND, I MEAN, IT WORKS BETTER

576
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,867
JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE

577
00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:28,167
DIRECTOR, ONE SCHOOL BOARD

578
00:17:28,167 --> 00:17:31,867
LOOKING AFTER ONE SCHOOL, AND

579
00:17:31,867 --> 00:17:33,800
THAT ONE SCHOOL FOCUSES ON THE

580
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,600
ONE STUDENT AND IT CREATES A

581
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,733
BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR

582
00:17:36,733 --> 00:17:37,233
EVERYBODY.

583
00:17:37,233 --> 00:17:38,267
>> WHAT GRADE ARE YOU IN?

584
00:17:38,267 --> 00:17:39,100
>> A SENIOR.

585
00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,067
>> GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

586
00:17:41,067 --> 00:17:42,467
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

587
00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:43,600
TREY, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT

588
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,367
CHARTER VERSUS TRADITIONAL.

589
00:17:47,367 --> 00:17:54,433
>> WELL, THE QUALITY OF

590
00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:56,033
EDUCATION IN LOUISIANA, RANKS,

591
00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:57,100
48, 49, 50.

592
00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:58,933
IT IS NOT ONE OF OUR STRONG

593
00:17:58,933 --> 00:17:59,467
POINTS.

594
00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:02,500
AND, SO, I AM IN FAVOR OF

595
00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:04,233
ANYTHING THAT GIVES THE

596
00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:06,333
STUDENTS IN LOUISIANA A BETTER

597
00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:10,000
CHANCE AT SUCCEEDING, NOT ONLY

598
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,033
ACADEMICALLY, BUT BEYOND

599
00:18:11,033 --> 00:18:14,533
SCHOOL, IN LIFE, AND, YOU KNOW,

600
00:18:14,533 --> 00:18:16,300
FINDING A GOOD JOB AND

601
00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:17,600
PROVIDING A LIFE FOR THE FAMILY

602
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,300
THAT THEY HOPE TO HAVE ONE DAY.

603
00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:21,133
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BEST

604
00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:23,300
POINT THAT I HEARD IN THE VIDEO

605
00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:25,700
THAT STARTED THE SHOW IS, YOU

606
00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:27,167
KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO WORK

607
00:18:27,167 --> 00:18:28,500
TOGETHER AND FIND THINGS THAT

608
00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:30,433
ARE WORKING WELL WITH THE

609
00:18:30,433 --> 00:18:31,933
CHARTER SCHOOLS AND FIGURE OUT

610
00:18:31,933 --> 00:18:33,400
HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT

611
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,500
INTO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE

612
00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:38,133
SCHOOLS AND BE COLLABORATIVE.

613
00:18:38,133 --> 00:18:39,467
>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED

614
00:18:39,467 --> 00:18:39,933
THAT.

615
00:18:39,933 --> 00:18:41,267
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT POINT

616
00:18:41,267 --> 00:18:42,933
THAT SHE MADE AT THE END THAT

617
00:18:42,933 --> 00:18:44,233
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS

618
00:18:44,233 --> 00:18:45,933
ALWAYS FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND

619
00:18:45,933 --> 00:18:47,833
THAT THERE IS NEVER, YOU KNOW,

620
00:18:47,833 --> 00:18:49,367
COMING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO

621
00:18:49,367 --> 00:18:50,733
FIND SOME SORT OF COMMON

622
00:18:50,733 --> 00:18:51,267
GROUND.

623
00:18:51,267 --> 00:18:52,467
IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU ALL

624
00:18:52,467 --> 00:18:55,800
WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF, SORT

625
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,633
OF A COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION,

626
00:18:58,633 --> 00:18:59,867
MUCH LIKE WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT.

627
00:18:59,867 --> 00:19:01,600
DOES IT SEEM LIKE THERE IS

628
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,700
CONSTANT BATTLING GOING ON BACK

629
00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:04,433
AND FORTH?

630
00:19:04,433 --> 00:19:06,733
>> ABSOLUTELY.

631
00:19:06,733 --> 00:19:08,700
WE CERTAINLY -- CHARTERS TO

632
00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:10,200
HELP ACCESS FUNDS THAT MAYBE WE

633
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,000
HAD ACCESS TO THAT WE WERE IN

634
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,767
THE ABLE TO APPLY FOR.

635
00:19:13,767 --> 00:19:15,700
WE WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO

636
00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:17,400
BUILD COLLABORATION AROUND

637
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,467
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT,

638
00:19:18,467 --> 00:19:19,667
OPPORTUNITIES, CHANCES FOR US

639
00:19:19,667 --> 00:19:20,433
TO WORK TOGETHER.

640
00:19:20,433 --> 00:19:22,367
WE ARE ALL SEEKING TO SERVE THE

641
00:19:22,367 --> 00:19:25,267
SAME STUDENT.

642
00:19:25,267 --> 00:19:26,667
RATHER THAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS

643
00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:27,867
THAT NEVER SEEM TO END ABOUT

644
00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:28,933
WHAT THE STRUCTURE OF THE

645
00:19:28,933 --> 00:19:30,467
SCHOOL IS, PARENTS DON'T

646
00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:33,167
NECESSARILY FEEL THAT

647
00:19:33,167 --> 00:19:33,867
STRUCTURE.

648
00:19:33,867 --> 00:19:35,533
THEY SEE A SCHOOL AND WANT TO

649
00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:37,367
BE SURE THAT THAT SCHOOL IS

650
00:19:37,367 --> 00:19:38,233
SERVING THEIR KIDS.

651
00:19:38,233 --> 00:19:40,200
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE

652
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,867
NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THAT.

653
00:19:41,867 --> 00:19:43,200
>> OUR CONVERSATION IS GOING TO

654
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:43,867
CONTINUE.

655
00:19:43,867 --> 00:19:44,733
THAT'S IT FOR THIS PORTION OF

656
00:19:44,733 --> 00:19:45,167
THE SHOW.

657
00:19:45,167 --> 00:19:46,267
WHEN WE RETURN, WE WILL BE

658
00:19:46,267 --> 00:19:49,467
JOINED BY A PANEL OF EXPERTS TO

659
00:19:49,467 --> 00:19:52,067
FURTHER EXPLORE CHARTER SCHOOLS

660
00:19:52,067 --> 00:19:52,867
IN LOUISIANA.

661
00:19:52,867 --> 00:19:53,667
STAY TUNED.

662
00:19:53,667 --> 00:19:56,900
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

663
00:20:03,033 --> 00:20:05,800
>> HELLO EVERYONE.

664
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,067
WELCOME BACK TO "LOUISIANA

665
00:20:07,067 --> 00:20:07,533
PUBLIC SQUARE."

666
00:20:07,533 --> 00:20:10,267
TONIGHT WE'RE DISCUSSING PUBLIC

667
00:20:10,267 --> 00:20:11,900
CHARTER SCHOOLS IN LOUISIANA.

668
00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:14,900
JOINING US IS OUR PANEL OF

669
00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:15,600
EXPERTS.

670
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,900
VERONICA BROOKS IS THE POLICY

671
00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:18,333
DIRECTOR AT THE LOUISIANA

672
00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:21,633
ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC CHARTER

673
00:20:21,633 --> 00:20:24,767
>> MICHAEL DESHOTELS, A RETIRED

674
00:20:24,767 --> 00:20:26,533
EDUCATOR, SERVED AS HEAD OF THE

675
00:20:26,533 --> 00:20:31,333
LOUISIANA ASSOCIATION OF

676
00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:31,767
EDUCATORS.

677
00:20:31,767 --> 00:20:33,267
>> CHRIS MEYER, FOUNDER OF NEW

678
00:20:33,267 --> 00:20:35,167
SCHOOLS FOR BATON ROUGE,

679
00:20:35,167 --> 00:20:37,500
NONPROFIT DEDICATED FOR

680
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:39,167
CREATING NEW SCHOOLS FOR THE

681
00:20:39,167 --> 00:20:41,033
1,200 STUDENTS THAT CURRENTLY

682
00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:43,800
ATTEND A FAILING SCHOOL.

683
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,267
>> AND DR. BEEBE, MEMBER OF

684
00:20:46,267 --> 00:20:47,800
LOUISIANA BOARD OF ELEMENTARY

685
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,767
AND SECONDARY EDUCATION AND

686
00:20:49,767 --> 00:20:50,700
SUPERINTENDENT OF THE

687
00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:52,233
ST. MARTIN PARISH SCHOOL

688
00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:52,767
SYSTEM.

689
00:20:52,767 --> 00:20:54,000
IT IS SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU

690
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,600
ALL HERE.

691
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,800
BEFORE WE GET TO THE AUDIENCE,

692
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,567
AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN

693
00:20:57,567 --> 00:20:59,000
LISTENING IN ON THE

694
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,433
CONVERSATION, PLEASE SHARE WITH

695
00:21:00,433 --> 00:21:03,000
US WHERE YOU ARE ON CHARTERS,

696
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000
VERSUS TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS.

697
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,033
AND WE WILL START WITH YOU,

698
00:21:06,033 --> 00:21:06,500
VERONICA.

699
00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:07,033
>> SURE.

700
00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:09,200
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT

701
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,900
SAYING CHARTERS VERSUS

702
00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:14,067
TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS, A FALSE

703
00:21:14,067 --> 00:21:15,067
DICHOTOMY ACTUALLY.

704
00:21:15,067 --> 00:21:16,400
I THINK REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD

705
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,900
BE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT IS

706
00:21:17,900 --> 00:21:19,033
GOOD FOR KIDS AND HOW WE'RE

707
00:21:19,033 --> 00:21:20,367
GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF

708
00:21:20,367 --> 00:21:24,800
OUR KIDS ARE PREPARED FOR A

709
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,300
COMPETITIVE ECONOMY YOU KNOW,

710
00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:30,800
NOT JUST LOUISIANA, NOT

711
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,867
NATIONALLY, BUT ON A GLOBAL

712
00:21:31,867 --> 00:21:32,400
SCALE.

713
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,367
WHETHER THAT IS A CHARTER

714
00:21:34,367 --> 00:21:36,100
SCHOOL, OR TRADITIONAL PUBLIC

715
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:37,900
SCHOOL, I PERSONALLY DON'T

716
00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:39,100
REALLY CARE AS LONG AS THE WORK

717
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:39,867
IS GETTING DONE.

718
00:21:39,867 --> 00:21:43,667
AND I THINK THAT WE CAN REALLY

719
00:21:43,667 --> 00:21:48,033
USE CHARTER SCHOOLS AS A

720
00:21:48,033 --> 00:21:49,033
VEHICLE TO DO THAT.

721
00:21:49,033 --> 00:21:50,833
AS IT RELATES TO ONE VERSUS THE

722
00:21:50,833 --> 00:21:53,200
OTHER, I THINK THAT IS A FALSE

723
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,800
DICHOTOMY.

724
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,267
WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A

725
00:21:55,267 --> 00:21:55,667
DECISION.

726
00:21:55,667 --> 00:21:57,167
>> MIKE, WHAT ABOUT YOU, YOUR

727
00:21:57,167 --> 00:21:57,600
THOUGHTS.

728
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,433
>> I AGREE THAT YOU CAN'T

729
00:21:59,433 --> 00:22:02,767
CLASSIFY ONE TYPE OF SCHOOL AS

730
00:22:02,767 --> 00:22:04,067
GOOD OR BAD BECAUSE OF ITS

731
00:22:04,067 --> 00:22:05,967
NAME, BUT I DO HAVE BIG

732
00:22:05,967 --> 00:22:07,500
CONCERNS ABOUT CERTAIN TYPES OF

733
00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,267
CHARTER SCHOOLS, PARTICULARLY

734
00:22:09,267 --> 00:22:11,267
THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN

735
00:22:11,267 --> 00:22:12,333
TAKE-OVER SCHOOLS WHERE THE

736
00:22:12,333 --> 00:22:13,633
STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

737
00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:15,467
HAS TAKEN OVER CERTAIN SCHOOLS

738
00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,867
FROM LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEMS, AND

739
00:22:17,867 --> 00:22:21,033
HANDED THEM OVER TO CHARTER

740
00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:21,600
OPERATIONS.

741
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,967
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF

742
00:22:22,967 --> 00:22:25,100
POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE, AND I

743
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:26,967
THINK THAT REALLY SCHOOLS WORK

744
00:22:26,967 --> 00:22:29,033
BETTER WHEN THEY'RE RUN BY THE

745
00:22:29,033 --> 00:22:30,633
LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEM, BY THE

746
00:22:30,633 --> 00:22:31,833
LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS.

747
00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:34,333
AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE LOCAL

748
00:22:34,333 --> 00:22:36,733
SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE SET-UPS AND

749
00:22:36,733 --> 00:22:38,200
EXCELLENT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND

750
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,733
THERE IS NO PROBLEM.

751
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:41,167
WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY A SCHOOL AND

752
00:22:41,167 --> 00:22:42,333
GIVE IT TO THE STATE AND YOU

753
00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:44,300
TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE

754
00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:45,833
WHO VOTED FOR THE TAXES FOR

755
00:22:45,833 --> 00:22:47,433
THOSE SCHOOLS, THAT'S A BIG

756
00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:47,933
MISTAKE.

757
00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:49,900
AND IT TAKES AWAY THE PUBLIC

758
00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:50,833
INPUT INTO THOSE SCHOOLS.

759
00:22:50,833 --> 00:22:51,533
>> CHRIS.

760
00:22:51,533 --> 00:22:53,800
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK LIKE

761
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,133
VERONICA WAS SAYING, IT IS MORE

762
00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:57,833
A QUESTION ABOUT QUALITY AND

763
00:22:57,833 --> 00:22:58,900
EXCELLENT, REGARDLESS OF

764
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:00,533
WHETHER IT IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL

765
00:23:00,533 --> 00:23:01,933
WHICH HAS A LONG TRADITION

766
00:23:01,933 --> 00:23:02,433
HERE.

767
00:23:02,433 --> 00:23:03,533
PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH

768
00:23:03,533 --> 00:23:05,000
LOUISIANA, A PUBLIC SCHOOL OR

769
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,967
PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL.

770
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:07,533
THE QUESTIONS WE OUGHT TO BE

771
00:23:07,533 --> 00:23:10,267
ASKING, ONE, WHAT ARE THE

772
00:23:10,267 --> 00:23:11,500
OUTCOMES AND RESULTS THAT THOSE

773
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,867
SCHOOLS ARE GETTING?

774
00:23:13,867 --> 00:23:15,467
WE SEE EXAMPLES ACROSS THE

775
00:23:15,467 --> 00:23:18,133
STATE AND COUNTRY, SCHOOLS,

776
00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:20,333
REGARDLESS OF KIDS'

777
00:23:20,333 --> 00:23:23,433
BACKGROUNDS, EXCELLENT ACADEMIC

778
00:23:23,433 --> 00:23:24,500
OUTCOMES FOR THE KIDS.

779
00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:26,433
CAN THE LEADER OF THOSE

780
00:23:26,433 --> 00:23:27,667
SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, CONTROL

781
00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:29,200
ALL OF THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT

782
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,667
HAPPENS IN THAT SCHOOL, TO BEST

783
00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:32,533
MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE KIDS AND

784
00:23:32,533 --> 00:23:34,500
DO PARENTS HAVE ACCESS TO

785
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,033
CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT BEST FITS

786
00:23:36,033 --> 00:23:37,467
THE NEEDS OF THEIR KIDS?

787
00:23:37,467 --> 00:23:39,333
FINALLY THIS QUESTION OF

788
00:23:39,333 --> 00:23:40,267
ACCOUNTABILITY, FOR SCHOOLS

789
00:23:40,267 --> 00:23:41,567
THAT AREN'T PERFORMING WELL,

790
00:23:41,567 --> 00:23:42,867
WHAT IS OUR ANSWER REGARDLESS

791
00:23:42,867 --> 00:23:45,067
IF IT IS PRIVATE, PUBLIC, OR

792
00:23:45,067 --> 00:23:46,667
CHARTER SCHOOL PUBLIC, WHAT IS

793
00:23:46,667 --> 00:23:49,267
OUR ANSWER WHEN A SCHOOL IS NOT

794
00:23:49,267 --> 00:23:50,500
PERFORMING WELL VERSUS ONE THAT

795
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,133
IS DOING WELL.

796
00:23:52,133 --> 00:23:53,200
>> DR. BEEBE.

797
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,100
>> I'M A STRONG PROPONENT OF

798
00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:57,533
TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

799
00:23:57,533 --> 00:23:59,000
I AM A GRADUATE OF A

800
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,700
TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL AND

801
00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:03,133
I'M A SUPERINTENDENT OF A

802
00:24:03,133 --> 00:24:04,200
TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL

803
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,400
SYSTEM AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE

804
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,767
THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY

805
00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:07,867
TO EDUCATE ALL CHILDREN AND

806
00:24:07,867 --> 00:24:10,267
WITH THE MONEY THAT IS SIPHONED

807
00:24:10,267 --> 00:24:12,000
AWAY FROM TRADITIONAL PUBLIC

808
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000
SYSTEMS -- IN FACT, I DO

809
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,600
BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A

810
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,200
RESPONSIBILITY AS EDUCATIONAL

811
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,633
LEADERS TO PROVIDE QUALITY

812
00:24:18,633 --> 00:24:20,600
EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES FOR

813
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,167
CHILDREN.

814
00:24:21,167 --> 00:24:23,100
YOU KNOW, WE ADVOCATE CHOICE

815
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:26,500
FOR PARENTS, BUT OFTENTIMES THE

816
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:29,200
CHOICE IS FROM TRANSFER FROM A

817
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,367
FAILING SCHOOL TO ANOTHER

818
00:24:30,367 --> 00:24:31,600
FAILING SCHOOL TO ANOTHER

819
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,667
FAILING SCHOOL AND THEN WHEN WE

820
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:37,467
LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE THUS

821
00:24:37,467 --> 00:24:39,633
FAR IN THE RSD, IT LEAVES

822
00:24:39,633 --> 00:24:42,000
CERTAINLY A QUESTION IN MY

823
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,467
MIND, WHY DON'T WE ALLOCATE THE

824
00:24:44,467 --> 00:24:46,033
RESOURCES TO TRADITIONAL

825
00:24:46,033 --> 00:24:48,600
SYSTEMS, WORK WITH TRADITIONAL

826
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,233
SYSTEMS, AND I KNOW THOSE

827
00:24:50,233 --> 00:24:51,867
CRITICS WILL SAY THAT, YOU

828
00:24:51,867 --> 00:24:53,933
KNOW, WE HAVE FAILED WITHIN THE

829
00:24:53,933 --> 00:24:56,767
PUBLIC SYSTEM, TRADITIONAL

830
00:24:56,767 --> 00:24:57,967
SYSTEM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,

831
00:24:57,967 --> 00:24:59,533
FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE

832
00:24:59,533 --> 00:25:02,533
HAVE HAD MONEY TAKEN AWAY -- IN

833
00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:05,033
FACT, THE 2.75% INCREASE, WE

834
00:25:05,033 --> 00:25:07,167
HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT AS

835
00:25:07,167 --> 00:25:08,367
TRADITIONAL SCHOOL SYSTEMS.

836
00:25:08,367 --> 00:25:09,767
SO, IT MAKES IT QUITE

837
00:25:09,767 --> 00:25:10,900
CHALLENGING TO MEET THE NEEDS

838
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,300
OF ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, BUT I

839
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,067
THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY,

840
00:25:14,067 --> 00:25:15,700
AS EDUCATIONAL LEADERS WITHIN

841
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:17,233
THE TRADITIONAL SYSTEMS TO MAKE

842
00:25:17,233 --> 00:25:18,067
THAT HAPPEN.

843
00:25:18,067 --> 00:25:19,267
>> YOU MENTIONED STUDENTS AND

844
00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:21,167
WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE

845
00:25:21,167 --> 00:25:23,133
STUDENTS HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

846
00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,767
WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH

847
00:25:25,767 --> 00:25:26,800
THEM.

848
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,533
WE WILL START WITH YOU HALEY.

849
00:25:28,533 --> 00:25:47,900
>> I AM A SENIOR OF --

850
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:49,600
>>

851
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,233
>> THE LEGISLATURE JUST

852
00:25:51,233 --> 00:25:53,567
RECENTLY PASSED A NEW LAW THAT

853
00:25:53,567 --> 00:25:54,667
EXEMPTED CHARTER SCHOOLS FROM

854
00:25:54,667 --> 00:25:55,967
HAVING CERTIFIED TEACHERS.

855
00:25:55,967 --> 00:25:57,567
I THINK THAT IS A TERRIBLE

856
00:25:57,567 --> 00:25:59,800
MISTAKE, AND IT DIMINISHES THE

857
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,033
EDUCATION PROFESSION.

858
00:26:01,033 --> 00:26:02,567
THERE IS NO REASON WE SHOULDN'T

859
00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:04,367
REQUIRE CERTIFIED TEACHERS OF

860
00:26:04,367 --> 00:26:06,167
ALL SCHOOLS.

861
00:26:06,167 --> 00:26:08,067
>> SO, THE OVERWHELMING

862
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,100
MAJORITY OF TEACHERS IN CHARTER

863
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,733
SCHOOLS ARE CERTIFIED.

864
00:26:11,733 --> 00:26:15,333
THAT LAW WAS PASSED FOR THE

865
00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:16,533
OCCASIONAL EXCEPTION, RIGHT.

866
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:18,700
SO, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A

867
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:20,333
CHARTER SCHOOL THAT IS TEACHING

868
00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:22,467
ADVANCED PHYSICS, AND IN SOME

869
00:26:22,467 --> 00:26:25,133
AREAS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO

870
00:26:25,133 --> 00:26:27,867
FIND A CERTIFIED PHYSICS

871
00:26:27,867 --> 00:26:29,233
TEACHER, BUT THERE MAY BE A

872
00:26:29,233 --> 00:26:30,767
LOCAL UNIVERSITY, FOR EXAMPLE,

873
00:26:30,767 --> 00:26:32,700
WHERE THERE IS A RETIRED

874
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:34,867
PROFESSOR, OR, YOU KNOW,

875
00:26:34,867 --> 00:26:36,767
ADJUNCT PROFESSOR WHO MIGHT

876
00:26:36,767 --> 00:26:38,167
WANT TO TEACH IN THAT SCHOOL.

877
00:26:38,167 --> 00:26:40,267
AND I THINK IT IS REALLY

878
00:26:40,267 --> 00:26:42,067
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT, YOU

879
00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:43,633
KNOW, REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO

880
00:26:43,633 --> 00:26:46,300
SEE ARE OUTCOMES, NOT JUST

881
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,567
INPUTS.

882
00:26:48,567 --> 00:26:51,467
SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING

883
00:26:51,467 --> 00:26:52,600
CERTIFICATION IS ON THE FRONT

884
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,667
END THAT WE WOULD HOPE WOULD

885
00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,900
SUGGEST THAT THAT IS GOING TO

886
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:56,900
BE A QUALITY TEACHER.

887
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:58,600
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH

888
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,700
THAT SAYS IT IS A MIXED BAG.

889
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,133
SOMETIMES YOU GET A GREAT

890
00:27:02,133 --> 00:27:03,133
CERTIFIED TEACHER, AND

891
00:27:03,133 --> 00:27:04,067
SOMETIMES YOU DON'T.

892
00:27:04,067 --> 00:27:07,167
AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, REALLY

893
00:27:07,167 --> 00:27:08,800
I THINK CHRIS MENTIONED

894
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,167
OUTCOMES, AND I THINK IT IS

895
00:27:10,167 --> 00:27:11,867
IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON

896
00:27:11,867 --> 00:27:13,967
MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR

897
00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:15,900
TEACHERS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR

898
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,200
CREDENTIALS, ARE REALLY SERVING

899
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:17,800
KIDS WELL.

900
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,167
>> AND IT IS A GREAT QUESTION

901
00:27:19,167 --> 00:27:20,000
THAT SHE ASKED.

902
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,400
IF YOU'RE BEING HELD TO A

903
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,033
HIGHER STANDARD, THEN WHY

904
00:27:23,033 --> 00:27:24,967
AREN'T TEACHERS BEING HELD TO A

905
00:27:24,967 --> 00:27:25,800
HIGHER STANDARD?

906
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,867
THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION.

907
00:27:26,867 --> 00:27:28,067
WHEN YOU LOOK A THE CHARTER

908
00:27:28,067 --> 00:27:30,500
SCHOOL SYSTEM, A LOT OF

909
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:31,733
TEACHERS COME FROM TEACH FOR

910
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,300
AMERICA, THAT WOULD BE AN

911
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:34,400
ACCURATE WAY OF SAYING THAT.

912
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRE FD TO BE

913
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,567
CERTIFIED TEACHERS.

914
00:27:38,567 --> 00:27:40,000
>> TEACH FOR AMERICA TEACHERS

915
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,233
ARE CERTIFIED --

916
00:27:41,233 --> 00:27:44,200
>> ALL OF THEM ARE CERTIFIED --

917
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,133
>> THEY WORK TOWARDS THEIR

918
00:27:46,133 --> 00:27:46,767
CERTIFICATION --

919
00:27:46,767 --> 00:27:49,100
>> THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS

920
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,900
THEIR CERTIFICATION WHILE

921
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,967
TEACHING BUT -- THEY'RE NOT

922
00:27:53,967 --> 00:27:55,933
REQUIRED TO BE CERTIFIED?

923
00:27:55,933 --> 00:27:57,067
>> THROUGH THIS NEW LAW THEY

924
00:27:57,067 --> 00:27:58,767
WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED.

925
00:27:58,767 --> 00:27:59,733
>> WOULD NOT BE.

926
00:27:59,733 --> 00:28:01,967
>> BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT

927
00:28:01,967 --> 00:28:03,067
THEY ARE BEING HELD

928
00:28:03,067 --> 00:28:03,533
ACCOUNTABLE.

929
00:28:03,533 --> 00:28:05,200
IF THAT TEACHER IS NOT

930
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,367
PERFORMING WELL, THAT SCHOOL

931
00:28:06,367 --> 00:28:07,700
LEADER HAS AN OBLIGATION, AND

932
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:09,933
THAT IS TRUE TRADITIONAL OR

933
00:28:09,933 --> 00:28:11,100
CHARTER, TO EITHER PROVIDE

934
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,700
RESOURCES TO THAT TEACHER TO

935
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:13,933
HELP THEM GET BETTER OR TO

936
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:15,433
REMOVE THAT TEACHER FROM THE

937
00:28:15,433 --> 00:28:15,933
CLASSROOM.

938
00:28:15,933 --> 00:28:17,800
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY,

939
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,767
CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE HELD

940
00:28:18,767 --> 00:28:19,833
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR RESULTS.

941
00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:21,333
IF THEY CAN'T PERFORM, THEN,

942
00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,767
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE SHUT DOWN

943
00:28:23,767 --> 00:28:28,633
AND WE HAVE SHUT DOWN POOR

944
00:28:28,633 --> 00:28:29,667
PERFORMING CHARTER SCHOOLS.

945
00:28:29,667 --> 00:28:33,400
IN TERMS OF TEACHERS, IT

946
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,633
BEHOOVES YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT

947
00:28:34,633 --> 00:28:36,567
YOU HAVE AN EXCELLENT TEACHER

948
00:28:36,567 --> 00:28:38,333
IN EVERY CLASSROOM REGARDLESS

949
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:39,900
OF HOW THEY GOT INTO THE

950
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:40,333
CLASSROOM.

951
00:28:40,333 --> 00:28:42,133
>> I THINK YOU BRING UP ANOTHER

952
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:43,100
EXCELLENT POINT.

953
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,700
IF THE CHARTERS ARE NOT

954
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:48,667
WORKING, WHAT HAPPENS.

955
00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:49,900
CHRIS, YOU MENTIONED THAT AS

956
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:50,400
WELL.

957
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,900
HOW LONG DO YOU HAVE TO

958
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,033
DETERMINE WHETHER A CHARTER

959
00:28:53,033 --> 00:28:54,333
SCHOOL IS WORKING?

960
00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:55,767
>> WHAT OUR STATE HAS ACTUALLY

961
00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:59,000
BEEN A LEADER ON IN THE ENTIRE

962
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,733
COUNTRY, BESSY BOARD HAS DONE

963
00:29:01,733 --> 00:29:03,833
IN HOLDING CHARTER SCHOOLS

964
00:29:03,833 --> 00:29:04,333
ACCOUNTABLE.

965
00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:06,167
AT THE THREE-YEAR MARK, A

966
00:29:06,167 --> 00:29:08,733
CHECK-IN BASED ON PERFORMANCE,

967
00:29:08,733 --> 00:29:12,700
PERFORMAN

968
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:13,633
PERFORMANCE, FINANCIALS, AND

969
00:29:13,633 --> 00:29:14,600
GOVERNANCE.

970
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,167
LOUISIANA, AS THE VIDEO SHOWS,

971
00:29:17,167 --> 00:29:18,567
HAS BEEN CONSISTENT.

972
00:29:18,567 --> 00:29:20,133
IF YOU DON'T MEET THE BAR, THAT

973
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:25,667
SCHOOL IS NOT -- IS REMOVED.

974
00:29:25,667 --> 00:29:28,000
IT IS A MINIMAL BAR.

975
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,067
PARTICULARLY OUT OF NEW

976
00:29:29,067 --> 00:29:30,500
ORLEANS, I WAS A TEACHER IN NEW

977
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:31,667
ORLEANS BEFORE THE HURRICANE,

978
00:29:31,667 --> 00:29:32,667
AND THE LAST THING WE WERE

979
00:29:32,667 --> 00:29:35,300
DOING IN THAT SYSTEM WAS

980
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:36,033
EDUCATING KIDS.

981
00:29:36,033 --> 00:29:37,367
IT WAS DYSFUNCTIONAL.

982
00:29:37,367 --> 00:29:40,033
THE REALITY IS THAT THE CHARTER

983
00:29:40,033 --> 00:29:41,633
SCHOOL MOVEMENT ALLOWED THIS

984
00:29:41,633 --> 00:29:43,267
EMPOWERMENT OF EDUCATORS, PART

985
00:29:43,267 --> 00:29:45,400
OF A TRADITIONAL SYSTEM AND

986
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,633
OTHERWISE, FINALLY HAVE CONTROL

987
00:29:46,633 --> 00:29:47,800
OVER THEIR BUDGET AND OVER

988
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,433
THEIR TIME AND THE RESOURCES.

989
00:29:49,433 --> 00:29:50,833
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I

990
00:29:50,833 --> 00:29:52,867
THINK WE NEED TO TALK MORE

991
00:29:52,867 --> 00:29:54,267
ABOUT, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN ALL

992
00:29:54,267 --> 00:29:55,967
SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE

993
00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:57,267
RESOURCES, DECISION-MAKING

994
00:29:57,267 --> 00:29:59,633
POWER IS ACTUALLY AT THE SCHOOL

995
00:29:59,633 --> 00:30:01,400
LEVEL TO EMPOWER THOSE SCHOOLS

996
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,933
TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR KIDS.

997
00:30:02,933 --> 00:30:04,633
THAT'S THE REALITY WE SEE HERE.

998
00:30:04,633 --> 00:30:06,500
AND KNOWING THAT OUR SCHOOL

999
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,033
DISTRICTS COULD MODEL

1000
00:30:08,033 --> 00:30:09,633
THEMSELVES, AND MANY DO, BUT

1001
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:12,267
AFTER BESSY.

1002
00:30:12,267 --> 00:30:16,833
LOOK AT THE HIGH STANDARDS --

1003
00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:19,367
WHY AREN'T ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS

1004
00:30:19,367 --> 00:30:22,700
HELD TO A THREE-YEAR LOOK IN

1005
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:23,200
PERFORMANCE.

1006
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,233
>> WE HAVE NATHANIEL, ANOTHER

1007
00:30:24,233 --> 00:30:25,233
STUDENTS WITH A QUESTION.

1008
00:30:25,233 --> 00:30:29,000
>> MY QUESTION IS, I ATTEND A

1009
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,400
CHARTER SCHOOL, AND THE GENERAL

1010
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,967
CONSENSUS IS THAT CHARTER

1011
00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:36,333
SCHOOLS IN MORE URBAN AREAS

1012
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:38,400
PERFORM BETTER THAN CHARTERS IN

1013
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,800
SUBURBAN AND RURAL AREAS?

1014
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,567
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THAT IS?

1015
00:30:42,567 --> 00:30:44,667
>> I MEAN I'LL JUMP IN.

1016
00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:46,667
I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE

1017
00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:49,933
CREDO STUDY OUT OF STANFORD

1018
00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:51,900
UNIVERSITY, WHICH NATIONALLY

1019
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:53,000
FOUND THAT CHARTER SCHOOLS

1020
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,100
DIDN'T PERFORM ANY BETTER OR

1021
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,767
WORSE THAN THE SCHOOLS.

1022
00:30:55,767 --> 00:30:57,467
IN LOUISIANA, THE CHARTER

1023
00:30:57,467 --> 00:30:58,733
SCHOOLS HERE OUTPERFORM ON

1024
00:30:58,733 --> 00:31:01,200
AVERAGE TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS.

1025
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,067
WHEN WE DUG IN MORE CLOSELY, IT

1026
00:31:03,067 --> 00:31:05,867
SAID THE SCHOOLS IN NEW ORLEANS

1027
00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:07,267
SPECIFICALLY WERE

1028
00:31:07,267 --> 00:31:09,233
OUTPERFORMING -- THERE WAS THIS

1029
00:31:09,233 --> 00:31:10,733
INTENSE FOCUS.

1030
00:31:10,733 --> 00:31:12,633
WHAT DOES AUTONOMY REALLY MEAN.

1031
00:31:12,633 --> 00:31:14,200
EVERY SCHOOL IS OPERATING IN A

1032
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,467
WAY THAT ALL OF THE PRINCIPALS

1033
00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:17,933
HAD DECISION MAKING POWER, A

1034
00:31:17,933 --> 00:31:20,267
LOT MORE COLLABORATION,

1035
00:31:20,267 --> 00:31:22,667
COMPETITION, AND PRESSURE, JUST

1036
00:31:22,667 --> 00:31:23,667
SCHOOL TO SCHOOL.

1037
00:31:23,667 --> 00:31:25,367
NO TRADITIONAL VERSUS CHARTER.

1038
00:31:25,367 --> 00:31:27,200
MORE WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GET

1039
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,700
RESULTS.

1040
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:28,767
WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR BEST

1041
00:31:28,767 --> 00:31:29,267
TALENT.

1042
00:31:29,267 --> 00:31:30,867
IF WE HAVE A TALENT THAT IS NOT

1043
00:31:30,867 --> 00:31:32,800
WORKING OUT FOR THE KIDS NEEDS

1044
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,400
TO BE MOVED OUT QUICKLY.

1045
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,700
I THINK THAT ECOSYSTEM ISN'T

1046
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,233
FELT AS MUCH IN OTHER PARTS OF

1047
00:31:38,233 --> 00:31:40,200
THE STATE.

1048
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,833
LOTS OF PEOPLE DOING PIONEERING

1049
00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:43,467
THINGS IN OTHER PARTS.

1050
00:31:43,467 --> 00:31:44,633
SCHOOLS, BECAUSE OF THE RULES

1051
00:31:44,633 --> 00:31:46,000
OF THE STATE BOARD AND

1052
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,033
OTHERWISE, WILL BE HELD

1053
00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:48,067
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR RESULTS.

1054
00:31:48,067 --> 00:31:49,067
IF THEY ARE NOT GETTING IT

1055
00:31:49,067 --> 00:31:49,567
DONE --

1056
00:31:49,567 --> 00:31:51,233
>> GO AHEAD.

1057
00:31:51,233 --> 00:31:54,567
>> I DISAGREE WITH THE CREDO

1058
00:31:54,567 --> 00:31:56,533
STU

1059
00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:58,700
STUDY CLASSIFYING THE SUBURBAN

1060
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,133
SCHOOLS AS LESS THOROUGH AND

1061
00:32:00,133 --> 00:32:01,433
NOT AS EFFECTIVE.

1062
00:32:01,433 --> 00:32:03,367
I THINK THE WAY THE STUDY WAS

1063
00:32:03,367 --> 00:32:04,667
STRUCTURED WAS WRONG.

1064
00:32:04,667 --> 00:32:06,833
THEY COMPARED THE NEW ORLEANS

1065
00:32:06,833 --> 00:32:07,800
CHARTER SCHOOLS TO THE NEW

1066
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,767
ORLEANS DIRECT RUN SCHOOLS.

1067
00:32:08,767 --> 00:32:10,233
AND THOSE ARE THE VERY POOREST

1068
00:32:10,233 --> 00:32:11,933
SCHOOLS IN THE STATE.

1069
00:32:11,933 --> 00:32:13,133
WHEN YOU COMPARE THE CHARTER

1070
00:32:13,133 --> 00:32:14,933
SCHOOLS TO THE POOREST RUN

1071
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,800
SCHOOL IN THE STATE, OBVIOUSLY

1072
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,833
YOU HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT OR A

1073
00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:20,300
BETTER PERFORMANCE.

1074
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:22,200
THE SUBURBAN SCHOOLS ARE BEING

1075
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,667
COMPARED TO THE LOCAL SCHOOL

1076
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:26,233
SYSTEMS WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED.

1077
00:32:26,233 --> 00:32:27,467
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS.

1078
00:32:27,467 --> 00:32:28,900
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCORES OF

1079
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:30,833
THE STUDENT, YOU GUYS ARE DOING

1080
00:32:30,833 --> 00:32:32,467
BETTER THAN THE SCHOOLS ARE IN

1081
00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:34,033
THE NEW ORLEANS AREA.

1082
00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:35,967
I CAN ASSURE YOU ON THE

1083
00:32:35,967 --> 00:32:37,000
AVERAGE, MUCH BETTER.

1084
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,600
>> VERONICA, DO YOU WANT TO

1085
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,233
JUMP IN?

1086
00:32:39,233 --> 00:32:41,767
>> I WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK

1087
00:32:41,767 --> 00:32:42,433
CLARIFICATION.

1088
00:32:42,433 --> 00:32:44,133
I WILL GET SUPER NERDY REALLY

1089
00:32:44,133 --> 00:32:45,933
QUICKLY, WHICH IS ME ALL OF THE

1090
00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:46,367
TIME.

1091
00:32:46,367 --> 00:32:48,567
ACTUALLY THE CREDO STUDY USED A

1092
00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:50,233
VIRTUAL TWIN MODEL, WHICH MEANS

1093
00:32:50,233 --> 00:32:54,133
THAT YOU ARE NOT COMPARING THE

1094
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:58,067
SCHOOL AND THE TRADITIONAL

1095
00:32:58,067 --> 00:32:59,067
SCHOOLS TO THE CHARTER

1096
00:32:59,067 --> 00:33:01,133
SCHOOLS -- WHAT YOU DO FOR EACH

1097
00:33:01,133 --> 00:33:03,467
INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS, YOU LOOK

1098
00:33:03,467 --> 00:33:06,067
AT THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC.

1099
00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:08,267
WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO FIND

1100
00:33:08,267 --> 00:33:11,067
ANOTHER KID IN THE STATE OF

1101
00:33:11,067 --> 00:33:13,133
LOUISIANA WHO MATCHES MATT

1102
00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:14,400
DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE MOST PART.

1103
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,533
AND WHEN WE USE THE CREDO

1104
00:33:16,533 --> 00:33:19,533
STUDY, AND WE SAY THAT CHARTERS

1105
00:33:19,533 --> 00:33:21,300
ARE OUTPERFORMING TRADITIONAL

1106
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:22,333
SCHOOLS OR WHENEVER WE'RE

1107
00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:23,833
TALKING ABOUT DATA IN THAT

1108
00:33:23,833 --> 00:33:25,067
STUDY, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER

1109
00:33:25,067 --> 00:33:27,067
THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE

1110
00:33:27,067 --> 00:33:28,567
ENTIRE STATE AND FINDING KIDS

1111
00:33:28,567 --> 00:33:30,933
IN THE AGGREGATE WHO LOOK LIKE

1112
00:33:30,933 --> 00:33:33,533
THE KIDS WHO ARE IN THE

1113
00:33:33,533 --> 00:33:35,533
CHARTERS, AS WELL.

1114
00:33:35,533 --> 00:33:38,067
SO, IT COULD BE THAT THE

1115
00:33:38,067 --> 00:33:40,633
SUBURBAN RURAL SCHOOLS, SOME OF

1116
00:33:40,633 --> 00:33:42,900
THE KIDS WHO MATCH YOU

1117
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,067
DEMOGRAPHICALLY ELSEWHERE WERE

1118
00:33:44,067 --> 00:33:45,433
DOING WELL, BUT PERHAPS SITTING

1119
00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:47,500
IN THE DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE IN,

1120
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:49,367
YOU'RE ACTUALLY OUTPERFORMING

1121
00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:50,367
THAT DISTRICT.

1122
00:33:50,367 --> 00:33:54,800
SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT

1123
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,300
CLARIFICATION.

1124
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:56,667
>> IF I MAY INTERJECT, I'M

1125
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:57,867
ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THE

1126
00:33:57,867 --> 00:33:59,433
STUDIES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT FOR

1127
00:33:59,433 --> 00:34:01,267
VARIOUS THINGS, AND IT JUST

1128
00:34:01,267 --> 00:34:04,600
GIVES THE PUBLIC A FALSE SENSE

1129
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,667
OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS

1130
00:34:06,667 --> 00:34:07,867
HAPPENING IN OUR CHARTER

1131
00:34:07,867 --> 00:34:08,467
SCHOOLS.

1132
00:34:08,467 --> 00:34:11,033
AND, ONCE AGAIN, MY REAL ISSUE

1133
00:34:11,033 --> 00:34:13,600
IS WITH THE FACT THAT WE ARE

1134
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,100
SIPHONING OFF THE FUNDING, THE

1135
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,067
FUNDING IS NOT PUT IN PLACE TO

1136
00:34:20,067 --> 00:34:21,700
ASSIST ALL CHILDREN WITHIN THE

1137
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:23,633
PUBLIC SETTING.

1138
00:34:23,633 --> 00:34:27,000
AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK AT CHARTER

1139
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,367
SCHOOLS AND WE -- AS PUBLIC

1140
00:34:30,367 --> 00:34:32,000
SYSTEMS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, I SEE

1141
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000
THEM AS PRIVATE SCHOOLS USING

1142
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,767
PUBLIC FUNDS.

1143
00:34:35,767 --> 00:34:38,833
AND, AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A

1144
00:34:38,833 --> 00:34:40,267
RESPONSIBILITY TO EDUCATE THE

1145
00:34:40,267 --> 00:34:41,433
CHILDREN, PROVIDE THOSE

1146
00:34:41,433 --> 00:34:44,000
OUTCOMES AND WE COULD DO IT IF

1147
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,700
WE WORK TOGETHER AND WE WEREN'T

1148
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:47,400
IN COMPETITION WHILE WE'RE

1149
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,267
SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT THE

1150
00:34:49,267 --> 00:34:51,700
COMPETITION, THE COMPETITION IS

1151
00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:52,167
THERE.

1152
00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:53,267
IT'S VERY EVIDENT.

1153
00:34:53,267 --> 00:34:55,000
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL

1154
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
EVER GET ON THE SAME PAGE.

1155
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,967
>> I'M HEARING A LOT ABOUT BEST

1156
00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:01,233
PRACTICES AND STANDARDS HERE.

1157
00:35:01,233 --> 00:35:09,600
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION OF

1158
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,100
CLARANCE ABOUT STANDARDS.

1159
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:14,767
>> HOW DOES THE DEPARTMENTOF

1160
00:35:14,767 --> 00:35:18,233
EDUCATION, SHARING THE DATA

1161
00:35:18,233 --> 00:35:19,733
WITH THE REST OF THE LOUISIANA

1162
00:35:19,733 --> 00:35:20,600
PUBLIC SCHOOLS?

1163
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,700
>> I'M -- I AM A SUPERINTENDENT

1164
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:25,400
OF A TRADITIONAL SYSTEM, AS I

1165
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,100
POINTED OUT.

1166
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:27,933
AND WE ARE MAKING IT HAPPEN

1167
00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:28,933
WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.

1168
00:35:28,933 --> 00:35:31,467
AND THAT'S WHY I -- MY BELIEF

1169
00:35:31,467 --> 00:35:33,433
IS THAT WHEN YOU HIRE LEADERS

1170
00:35:33,433 --> 00:35:35,767
WITHIN A DISTRICT, THOSE

1171
00:35:35,767 --> 00:35:37,300
LEADERS SHOULD TAKE THE

1172
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:38,367
INITIATIVE AND MAKE GREAT

1173
00:35:38,367 --> 00:35:38,933
THINGS HAPPEN.

1174
00:35:38,933 --> 00:35:40,300
THEY NEED TO DO THEIR RESEARCH.

1175
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:42,733
THEY NEED TO IMPLEMENT THE BEST

1176
00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:46,367
PRACTICES, AND I, AS A BESSY

1177
00:35:46,367 --> 00:35:47,433
MEMBER, ALSO TELL

1178
00:35:47,433 --> 00:35:48,567
SUPERINTENDENT WHITE AT THE

1179
00:35:48,567 --> 00:35:50,000
MEETINGS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE

1180
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,733
THAT HE IS DOING ENOUGH AS OUR

1181
00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:53,400
STATE SUPERINTENDENT OF

1182
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,933
EDUCATION TO SUPPORT OUR

1183
00:35:54,933 --> 00:35:56,500
TRADITIONAL SYSTEMS.

1184
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,033
THE FOCUS IS ON CHARTERS.

1185
00:35:59,033 --> 00:36:01,100
AND I FEEL THAT HE IS

1186
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:04,433
NEGLECTING IN THAT SENSE, AND I

1187
00:36:04,433 --> 00:36:05,533
FEEL THAT WE NEED

1188
00:36:05,533 --> 00:36:06,867
INDIVIDUALS -- INDIVIDUALS

1189
00:36:06,867 --> 00:36:08,500
WOULD AGREE WITH ME.

1190
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,200
>> THE WHOLE MONEY ISSUE THAT

1191
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,300
IS INVOLVED AND COMPANIES

1192
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:12,967
COMING IN AND SETTING UP

1193
00:36:12,967 --> 00:36:14,433
SCHOOLS, CHARTER SCHOOLS, IS

1194
00:36:14,433 --> 00:36:15,533
THAT A REAL CONCERN THAT IT IS

1195
00:36:15,533 --> 00:36:17,633
A MONEY-MAKING VENTURE FOR A

1196
00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:18,933
LOT OF THE COMPANIES AND HOW

1197
00:36:18,933 --> 00:36:21,133
DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THE REAL

1198
00:36:21,133 --> 00:36:24,033
EDUCATION OF OUR STUDENTS?

1199
00:36:24,033 --> 00:36:25,633
>> THE -- MANY OF THE CHARTER

1200
00:36:25,633 --> 00:36:27,167
SCHOOLS ARE RUN, EVEN IF

1201
00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:30,067
THEY'RE NONPROFITS, THEY'RE

1202
00:36:30,067 --> 00:36:32,867
ACTUALLY RUN BY A PROFIT-MAKING

1203
00:36:32,867 --> 00:36:34,167
ORGANIZATION.

1204
00:36:34,167 --> 00:36:38,400
THE EDISON COMPANY THAT HANDLED

1205
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,867
THE CAPITAL SCHOOL -- DON'T

1206
00:36:40,867 --> 00:36:42,933
ASSUME THAT IF IT SAYS

1207
00:36:42,933 --> 00:36:44,867
NONPROFIT THAT IT IS REALLY

1208
00:36:44,867 --> 00:36:45,467
NONPROFIT.

1209
00:36:45,467 --> 00:36:48,000
THEY CAN MILK THE CITY FOR HOW

1210
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,500
MUCH MONEY THEY CAN MAKE BY

1211
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,567
HIRING THE LEAST EXPENSIVE

1212
00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:52,167
TEACHERS.

1213
00:36:52,167 --> 00:36:53,067
ANOTHER THING THEY DO WHICH I

1214
00:36:53,067 --> 00:36:55,533
THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE AGAINST,

1215
00:36:55,533 --> 00:36:57,400
THEY'RE EXEMPTED FROM BEING

1216
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,700
PART OF THE TEACHER RETIREMENT

1217
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:00,467
SYSTEM.

1218
00:37:00,467 --> 00:37:02,800
LEGISLATURE ASSESSES A SPECIAL

1219
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,533
ASSESSMENT TO ALL LOCAL SCHOOL

1220
00:37:04,533 --> 00:37:06,367
SYSTEMS TO PAY FOR THE UNFUNDED

1221
00:37:06,367 --> 00:37:08,200
LIABILITY OF THE TEACHERS

1222
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,000
RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

1223
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,033
WHEN THE SCHOOL IS ALLOWED TO

1224
00:37:11,033 --> 00:37:12,500
ESCAPE THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM,

1225
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,267
THEY ARE SAVING AT LEAST 20% OF

1226
00:37:14,267 --> 00:37:17,167
THE COST OF THE SALARIES BY

1227
00:37:17,167 --> 00:37:18,433
SHORT-CHANGING THE LOUISIANA

1228
00:37:18,433 --> 00:37:18,900
SYSTEM.

1229
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:20,900
THAT'S A BIG MISTAKE.

1230
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:22,933
AND IT JUST PUTS A BIGGER AND

1231
00:37:22,933 --> 00:37:24,700
BIGGER BURDEN ON THE REST OF

1232
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,167
THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS.

1233
00:37:27,167 --> 00:37:29,667
>> IN TERMS OF RETIREMENT, 120

1234
00:37:29,667 --> 00:37:31,067
CHARTER SCHOOLS CURRENTLY IN

1235
00:37:31,067 --> 00:37:33,367
THE STATE.

1236
00:37:33,367 --> 00:37:36,400
OVER HALF OF THEM BELONG TO THE

1237
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600
TRSL SYSTEM AND THE ONES THAT

1238
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,867
DON'T PROVIDE A DIFFERENT

1239
00:37:39,867 --> 00:37:40,867
RETIREMENT PLAN FOR THEIR

1240
00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:41,800
TEACHERS --

1241
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,567
>> I THINK THE POINT HE'S

1242
00:37:44,567 --> 00:37:47,500
MAKING IS IT IS OPTIONAL.

1243
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:49,400
>> THE UAL THAT MIKE IS TALKING

1244
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,100
ABOUT IS HUGE AND IT IS A BIG

1245
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,833
PROBLEM FOR TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS

1246
00:37:52,833 --> 00:37:54,600
AND SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN -- BUT

1247
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,767
THE REASON WHY IT SITS AT

1248
00:37:57,767 --> 00:37:58,267
$18.3 --

1249
00:37:58,267 --> 00:37:59,033
>> UAL.

1250
00:37:59,033 --> 00:38:02,233
>> UNFUNDED ACCRUED

1251
00:38:02,233 --> 00:38:04,133
LIABILITY -- IS BECAUSE IT WAS

1252
00:38:04,133 --> 00:38:06,333
MISMANAGED.

1253
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:09,333
THERE IS A LEGISLATIVE

1254
00:38:09,333 --> 00:38:10,400
AUDITOR'S REPORT THAT TALKS

1255
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,500
ABOUT OVER THE YEARS IT WAS

1256
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:13,133
MISMANAGED.

1257
00:38:13,133 --> 00:38:16,000
IF YOU PUT IN ALL OF THE

1258
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,800
SCHOOLS THAT AREN'T IN TRSL

1259
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,600
INTO IT, YOU GENERATE OF TO $10

1260
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,267
MILLION.

1261
00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:24,767
THAT IS 1-500th OF THE UAL.

1262
00:38:24,767 --> 00:38:26,833
I AGREE WITH MIKE IN THE SENSE

1263
00:38:26,833 --> 00:38:28,467
THAT IT IS A BIG PROBLEM, BUT

1264
00:38:28,467 --> 00:38:30,133
IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF CHARTERS.

1265
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:32,300
IT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE AS A

1266
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,100
STATE, WE AS A PEOPLE IN

1267
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,233
LOUISIANA NEED TO ENCOURAGE OUR

1268
00:38:36,233 --> 00:38:38,000
LEGISLATORS TO HELP US FIGURE

1269
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,233
OUT HOW IT'S FIXED.

1270
00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:41,400
>> CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO --

1271
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,733
>> I THINK THAT POINT

1272
00:38:42,733 --> 00:38:45,400
EXACTLY -- THIS IS ONE OF THOSE

1273
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,767
INNOVATIONS THAT WE COULD

1274
00:38:46,767 --> 00:38:48,233
ACTUALLY LEARN FROM FROM

1275
00:38:48,233 --> 00:38:49,333
PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND CHARTER

1276
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:50,133
SCHOOLS AND OTHERS.

1277
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:52,033
OUR DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN ASKING

1278
00:38:52,033 --> 00:38:54,067
FOR RELIEF ON THIS.

1279
00:38:54,067 --> 00:38:56,333
WHY IS IT FORCED ON EVERYONE TO

1280
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:58,800
BE IN A SYSTEM TO PROMISE 100%

1281
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,700
OF SALARY FOR MORE YEARS THAN

1282
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,233
YOU SPEND IN THE CLASSROOM?

1283
00:39:02,233 --> 00:39:04,867
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN UPSIDE

1284
00:39:04,867 --> 00:39:08,833
DOWN IN THAT WORK AND IT IS

1285
00:39:08,833 --> 00:39:10,900
PUTTING A BURDEN -- SCHOOLS

1286
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:12,667
COMPETING FOR STUDENTS, THE

1287
00:39:12,667 --> 00:39:13,667
DEBATE EVOLVES BACK INTO A

1288
00:39:13,667 --> 00:39:15,867
QUESTION OF MONEY.

1289
00:39:15,867 --> 00:39:17,500
GOING BACK TO THE CORE -- WE

1290
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:19,067
SHOULD HAVE OUR SCHOOLS

1291
00:39:19,067 --> 00:39:20,500
COMPETING FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS.

1292
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,667
THAT HAPPENS AT THE COLLEGE AND

1293
00:39:22,667 --> 00:39:23,533
UNIVERSITY LEVEL.

1294
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:27,133
WHY IS IT NOT HAPPENING IN THE

1295
00:39:27,133 --> 00:39:28,833
NEIGHBORHOODS -- ACHIEVEMENT

1296
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:30,700
ZONE -- WHY AREN'T WE GOING IN

1297
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,267
THERE AND SAYING WE WANT YOUR

1298
00:39:32,267 --> 00:39:34,433
CHILD TO HAVE THE BEST

1299
00:39:34,433 --> 00:39:35,000
OPPORTUNITY.

1300
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,667
HERE IS WHAT THIS PROGRAM

1301
00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:37,067
OFFERS.

1302
00:39:37,067 --> 00:39:38,667
AND HERE IS WHAT THIS ONE

1303
00:39:38,667 --> 00:39:40,033
OFFERS AND ALLOWING THE

1304
00:39:40,033 --> 00:39:41,067
OPPORTUNITIES TO COMPETE SO

1305
00:39:41,067 --> 00:39:42,167
LONG AS WE MAKE SURE THAT

1306
00:39:42,167 --> 00:39:46,033
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FOCUS ON,

1307
00:39:46,033 --> 00:39:47,100
AGAIN, OUTCOMES.

1308
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:48,800
GOVERNMENT SHOULD MANAGE TO THE

1309
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,100
OUTCOMES AND ACCOUNTABILITY,

1310
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,667
NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE

1311
00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:56,433
FRONT END OR DAY-TO-DAY IN

1312
00:39:56,433 --> 00:39:57,033
SCHOOLS --

1313
00:39:57,033 --> 00:39:58,300
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS

1314
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:00,433
AND WHETHER THE SCHOOL SYSTEM

1315
00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:01,533
ATTRACTS BUSINESS AND NEW

1316
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:02,400
PEOPLE TO THE STATE.

1317
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,767
PATTY HAS A QUESTION ALONG

1318
00:40:03,767 --> 00:40:04,533
THOSE LINES.

1319
00:40:04,533 --> 00:40:05,467
>> YES, RIGHT.

1320
00:40:05,467 --> 00:40:08,000
AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS DO

1321
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,233
YOU THINK THAT HAVING THE

1322
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:11,800
OPTION OF HAVING CHARTER

1323
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,733
SCHOOLS HERE AND DIFFERENT

1324
00:40:12,733 --> 00:40:14,767
TYPES OF SCHOOLS THROUGH THE

1325
00:40:14,767 --> 00:40:16,500
CHARTERS IS ATTRACTIVE TO

1326
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:17,533
BUSINESSES COMING INTO

1327
00:40:17,533 --> 00:40:18,133
LOUISIANA?

1328
00:40:18,133 --> 00:40:21,367
>> I MEAN, TO MY ORGANIZATION,

1329
00:40:21,367 --> 00:40:23,267
SCHOOLS FOR BATON ROUGE,

1330
00:40:23,267 --> 00:40:24,800
SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON

1331
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,833
RECRUITING ORGANIZATIONS

1332
00:40:25,833 --> 00:40:28,967
LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY WITH

1333
00:40:28,967 --> 00:40:30,300
EXCEPTIONAL TRACK RECORDS AND

1334
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,667
ASKING THEM TO DO MORE.

1335
00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:35,567
DO ANOTHER SCHOOL.

1336
00:40:35,567 --> 00:40:37,233
I THINK ANY BUSINESS ASKS ABOUT

1337
00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:37,767
THAT.

1338
00:40:37,767 --> 00:40:39,133
IN FACT, PARTNERSHIPS WITH

1339
00:40:39,133 --> 00:40:40,467
LOCAL BUSINESSES AND

1340
00:40:40,467 --> 00:40:41,833
INDUSTRIES, WE HEAR IT ALL OF

1341
00:40:41,833 --> 00:40:42,767
THE TIME.

1342
00:40:42,767 --> 00:40:44,333
FOLKS SAYING WE DON'T SEE A

1343
00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:45,533
GREAT OPTION IN THE PUBLIC

1344
00:40:45,533 --> 00:40:46,800
SYSTEM SO THAT WE HAVE TO PAY

1345
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,333
OUR WORKERS MORE TO STAY WITH

1346
00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:50,900
US SO THEY CAN AFFORD THE

1347
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,000
PRIVATE SCHOOL TUITION.

1348
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,167
I THINK BECAUSE OF -- INVESTING

1349
00:40:55,167 --> 00:40:57,167
A LOT OF DOLLARS IN SCHOOLS IN

1350
00:40:57,167 --> 00:40:57,667
LOUISIANA.

1351
00:40:57,667 --> 00:40:59,100
OVER $8 BILLION ANNUALLY IS

1352
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,600
SPENT ON PUBLIC EDUCATION AND

1353
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,100
CONSISTENTLY, THE LAST 20

1354
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,133
YEARS, RESULTS HAVE BASICALLY

1355
00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:05,700
BEEN FLAT.

1356
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:07,367
I THINK AT SOME POINT WE HAVE

1357
00:41:07,367 --> 00:41:08,800
TO START ASKING OURSELVES WHAT

1358
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,167
ARE WE DOING DIFFERENTLY.

1359
00:41:12,167 --> 00:41:13,867
IT IS GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US.

1360
00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:16,433
IT CAN'T JUST BE A CHARTER,

1361
00:41:16,433 --> 00:41:17,367
TRADITIONAL OR PRIVATE

1362
00:41:17,367 --> 00:41:17,900
SOLUTION.

1363
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:19,200
IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE

1364
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,133
DON'T FIX, I DON'T THINK WE

1365
00:41:21,133 --> 00:41:24,867
WILL SEE THE WINS WE HAVE SEEN

1366
00:41:24,867 --> 00:41:25,467
RECENTLY --

1367
00:41:25,467 --> 00:41:26,900
>> DOCTOR, I WANT TO GET YOUR

1368
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:27,633
TAKE ON THAT.

1369
00:41:27,633 --> 00:41:30,267
YOU SAID IT CAN'T BE A PUBLIC,

1370
00:41:30,267 --> 00:41:31,500
CHARTER OR PRIVATE SCHOOL

1371
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:32,000
SOLUTION.

1372
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,700
DO YOU FEEL THAT THE SOLUTION

1373
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:37,133
HAS MANY DIFFERENT TIERS TO IT?

1374
00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:39,267
>> ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THE

1375
00:41:39,267 --> 00:41:40,700
CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE A ROLE.

1376
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:43,000
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AN

1377
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,867
EXPERIENCE JUST RECENTLY IN A

1378
00:41:44,867 --> 00:41:47,400
NEIGHBORING DISTRICT.

1379
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,833
THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A TYPE

1380
00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:54,433
ONE CHARTER, AND THE COMMUNITY,

1381
00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:55,667
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY GOT

1382
00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:57,300
INVOLVED, BUT -- AND THEN IT

1383
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,000
WAS BASED, NOT BECAUSE THE

1384
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,133
SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS FAILING,

1385
00:42:02,133 --> 00:42:05,233
BUT BECAUSE OF ATTEMPTS TO PASS

1386
00:42:05,233 --> 00:42:07,000
A BOND, TAXPAYERS DIDN'T

1387
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,667
SUPPORT IT, AND SO THEN THERE

1388
00:42:08,667 --> 00:42:10,633
IS A LACK OF -- THERE IS A LACK

1389
00:42:10,633 --> 00:42:14,300
OF FACILITY SPACE, AND SO THE

1390
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:17,000
GROUP THAT CAME IN, THE CHARTER

1391
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,133
GROUP, INSTEAD OF BUILDING THE

1392
00:42:20,133 --> 00:42:21,633
FACILITIES IN AN AREA THAT IS

1393
00:42:21,633 --> 00:42:24,267
MOST AT RISK, THEY WERE PUTTING

1394
00:42:24,267 --> 00:42:26,533
THE FACILITY IN A MOST

1395
00:42:26,533 --> 00:42:28,267
PROMINENT AREA, WHICH IT WOULD

1396
00:42:28,267 --> 00:42:30,200
NOT CATER TO THE STUDENTS MOST

1397
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,633
IN NEED, BUT TO THE MORE

1398
00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:34,533
AFFLUENT POPULATION, AND THAT'S

1399
00:42:34,533 --> 00:42:36,733
A BIG CONCERN I HAVE.

1400
00:42:36,733 --> 00:42:39,300
I MEAN, LET'S PUT THE FACTS ON

1401
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:40,167
THE TABLE.

1402
00:42:40,167 --> 00:42:42,700
WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, AS I

1403
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,033
SEE THE CHARTER SCHOOLS TO PLAY

1404
00:42:44,033 --> 00:42:47,033
A ROLE IN ADDRESSING THE MOST

1405
00:42:47,033 --> 00:42:48,600
AT-RISK POPULATION, BUT THAT,

1406
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,600
YOU KNOW, AND THE EXPERIENCES

1407
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,233
THAT I'VE HAD WITH CHARTER

1408
00:42:54,233 --> 00:42:55,933
OPERATORS, THE INTENT AS I SEE

1409
00:42:55,933 --> 00:42:58,633
IT, THE OBJECTIVE IS TO SECURE

1410
00:42:58,633 --> 00:43:00,467
THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE MOST

1411
00:43:00,467 --> 00:43:01,467
LIKELY TO SUCCEED.

1412
00:43:01,467 --> 00:43:03,700
>> UH-HMM, YEAH, VERY

1413
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:04,167
INTERESTING.

1414
00:43:04,167 --> 00:43:06,033
>> YES.

1415
00:43:06,033 --> 00:43:07,533
>> MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU

1416
00:43:07,533 --> 00:43:10,167
TALKED ABOUT THE THREE-YEAR

1417
00:43:10,167 --> 00:43:12,933
GRADING SYSTEM, AND IF I WERE

1418
00:43:12,933 --> 00:43:14,267
OPERATING A CHARTER SCHOOL AND

1419
00:43:14,267 --> 00:43:16,000
IN THREE YEARS I WAS EXPECTED

1420
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,033
TO MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS,

1421
00:43:19,033 --> 00:43:20,700
MY -- IF I HAD A FAILING

1422
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,333
SCHOOL, I MIGHT BE MORE PRONE

1423
00:43:23,333 --> 00:43:25,200
TO -- FAILING GRADE, SOME

1424
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,633
KIDS -- I MIGHT BE MORE PRONE

1425
00:43:27,633 --> 00:43:29,133
TO TAKE THE KIDS ABOVE TO HAVE

1426
00:43:29,133 --> 00:43:30,700
A BETTER CHANCE OF PASSING THAT

1427
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:31,200
REQUIREMENT.

1428
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,833
AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT IS IN

1429
00:43:33,833 --> 00:43:35,900
PLACE TO PREVENT -- ONE GREAT

1430
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:38,467
THING ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION, A

1431
00:43:38,467 --> 00:43:39,667
PROMISE TO CALL KIDS TO HAVE

1432
00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:40,633
THAT EDUCATION.

1433
00:43:40,633 --> 00:43:43,700
WHAT IS TO PREVENT A CHARTER

1434
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,067
SCHOOL FROM JUST TAKING THE

1435
00:43:45,067 --> 00:43:45,467
TOP?

1436
00:43:45,467 --> 00:43:48,800
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

1437
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,967
IF YOU THOUGHT OF GOVERNMENT

1438
00:43:49,967 --> 00:43:55,200
WORKING MORE AS A REGULATOR OF

1439
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,767
OUTCOMES.

1440
00:43:55,767 --> 00:43:57,300
CERTAIN FAIR RULES OF A GAME.

1441
00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:58,400
CERTAIN RULES EVERYONE KNOWS TO

1442
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,967
PLAY BY AND YOU WORK AS HARD AS

1443
00:43:59,967 --> 00:44:01,767
YOU CAN TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE

1444
00:44:01,767 --> 00:44:03,400
TEAM TO WIN ON A FIELD.

1445
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,733
IN NEW ORLEANS, RECOGNIZING

1446
00:44:04,733 --> 00:44:06,400
THAT MOST OF THE SCHOOLS WERE

1447
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,867
CHARTERS AND HAD INDEPENDENT

1448
00:44:07,867 --> 00:44:09,033
LOTTERIES, YOU KNOW, THERE

1449
00:44:09,033 --> 00:44:11,933
COULD BE EXAMPLES, THERE COULD

1450
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:13,233
BE TIMES THAT FOLKS WOULD

1451
00:44:13,233 --> 00:44:15,500
MANEUVER THE SYSTEM.

1452
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,200
GOVERNMENT SAID IT ACTUALLY

1453
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,633
MAKES SENSE TO WORK WITH

1454
00:44:20,633 --> 00:44:22,200
ORLEANS SCHOOL DISTRICT,

1455
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,533
PRIVATE SCHOOLS, CHARTER

1456
00:44:23,533 --> 00:44:25,267
SCHOOLS AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE

1457
00:44:25,267 --> 00:44:27,067
TO HAVE ONE COMMON ENROLLMENT

1458
00:44:27,067 --> 00:44:28,567
SYSTEM WHERE PARENTS COULD

1459
00:44:28,567 --> 00:44:32,800
EXERCISE CHOICE AT ANY SCHOOL.

1460
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,733
AS A PARENT, IT DIDN'T MATTER

1461
00:44:34,733 --> 00:44:39,533
IF THE FIRST CHOICE WAS A --

1462
00:44:39,533 --> 00:44:40,800
YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE BASED ON

1463
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,100
WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE QUALITY

1464
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:42,400
WAS.

1465
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,400
IF YOU LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF

1466
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,967
THOSE, PARENTS HAVE

1467
00:44:46,967 --> 00:44:48,200
OVERWHELMINGLY FAVORED THE

1468
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,733
SCHOOLS WITH HIGHER GROWTH AND

1469
00:44:49,733 --> 00:44:52,633
HIGHER PERFORMANCE LEVELS.

1470
00:44:52,633 --> 00:44:53,800
PARENTS ALREADY -- TRYING TO

1471
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,867
GET INTO THE SCHOOLS WITH THE

1472
00:44:54,867 --> 00:44:55,667
BEST RESULTS.

1473
00:44:55,667 --> 00:44:57,400
IN THIS CASE, GOVERNMENT COULD

1474
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:02,333
ACT AS THE -- LET'S MAKE SURE

1475
00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:03,767
THAT EVERY KID HAS FAIR ACCESS.

1476
00:45:03,767 --> 00:45:06,100
I AGREE, I THINK THAT IS A

1477
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,333
PROPER ROLE THAT GOVERNMENT CAN

1478
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,567
PLAY WITHOUT MANAGING THE

1479
00:45:08,567 --> 00:45:10,133
DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE

1480
00:45:10,133 --> 00:45:10,567
SCHOOL.

1481
00:45:10,567 --> 00:45:12,733
>> I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNMENT

1482
00:45:12,733 --> 00:45:13,767
IS DOING THEIR JOB ON THAT.

1483
00:45:13,767 --> 00:45:15,633
I THINK IT IS AN EXCELLENT

1484
00:45:15,633 --> 00:45:16,633
QUESTION TO ASK.

1485
00:45:16,633 --> 00:45:18,600
WILL THEY TRY TO REMOVE THE

1486
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,133
STUDENTS THAT ARE NOT

1487
00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:20,733
PERFORMING?

1488
00:45:20,733 --> 00:45:22,900
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE

1489
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:24,767
SELECTIVE DISMISSALS OUTS OF

1490
00:45:24,767 --> 00:45:25,767
THE SCHOOL.

1491
00:45:25,767 --> 00:45:27,333
WE KNOW THERE ARE CHILDREN

1492
00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:28,900
BEING COUNCILED OUT OF THE

1493
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:30,600
SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT

1494
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,333
PERFORMING.

1495
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:33,333
DISCIPLINE POLICIES IN MANY OF

1496
00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:36,233
THE CHARTER SCHOOLS IS A WAY OF

1497
00:45:36,233 --> 00:45:38,967
REMOVING KIDS THAT ARE NOT

1498
00:45:38,967 --> 00:45:39,500
PERFORMING.

1499
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:41,500
USUALLY THE KIDS THAT ARE NOT

1500
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:43,333
PERFORMING WELL OR DISCIPLINE

1501
00:45:43,333 --> 00:45:43,867
PROBLEMS.

1502
00:45:43,867 --> 00:45:46,333
ALL OF THE SUDDEN YOU HAVE A

1503
00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:50,667
SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY, THE

1504
00:45:50,667 --> 00:45:51,833
CHARTER SCHOOL LOOKS GREAT

1505
00:45:51,833 --> 00:45:53,067
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

1506
00:45:53,067 --> 00:45:55,100
CULL OUT SOME OF OF THE

1507
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:55,600
STUDENTS.

1508
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,300
>> I HAVE TO BRING YOU IN ON

1509
00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:57,733
THIS.

1510
00:45:57,733 --> 00:45:59,567
YOU WERE ADAMANT EARLIER WHEN

1511
00:45:59,567 --> 00:46:01,067
YOU SAID THAT THE CHARTER

1512
00:46:01,067 --> 00:46:02,367
SCHOOLS WERE NOT SELECTIVE.

1513
00:46:02,367 --> 00:46:04,267
WE HAVE HEARD THAT IN FACT THEY

1514
00:46:04,267 --> 00:46:04,733
ARE.

1515
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:06,533
MIKE YOU JUST SAID THAT WE KNOW

1516
00:46:06,533 --> 00:46:07,767
THIS, THAT THEY ARE.

1517
00:46:07,767 --> 00:46:09,967
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO WHAT

1518
00:46:09,967 --> 00:46:10,833
YOU'RE HEARING?

1519
00:46:10,833 --> 00:46:12,433
>> I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE

1520
00:46:12,433 --> 00:46:13,600
CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT I'M AWARE

1521
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,767
OF IN NEW ORLEANS, FOLLOWING

1522
00:46:14,767 --> 00:46:17,267
THE PROCESS THAT CALL KIDS IN

1523
00:46:17,267 --> 00:46:19,533
NEW ORLEANS RECEIVE THE QUALITY

1524
00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:20,267
EDUCATION.

1525
00:46:20,267 --> 00:46:22,667
ONE OF THE BIGGEST

1526
00:46:22,667 --> 00:46:23,767
MISCONCEPTIONS, WE ARE ACTING

1527
00:46:23,767 --> 00:46:25,400
LIKE THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN

1528
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,433
LOUISIANA IS WORKING.

1529
00:46:26,433 --> 00:46:28,900
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE

1530
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:31,667
SCORE OF OUR KIDS, AND LOOK AT

1531
00:46:31,667 --> 00:46:33,300
OUR NATIONAL RANKING, ALL OF

1532
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:34,600
OUR KIDS ARE AT RISK.

1533
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,067
ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE AT RISK OF

1534
00:46:37,067 --> 00:46:40,300
NOT SUCCEEDING.

1535
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:44,900
SOMETHING HAD TO HAPPEN.

1536
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:46,267
EVERY PARENT ACTIVELY WALKING

1537
00:46:46,267 --> 00:46:49,100
WITH THEIR FEET TO DECIDE ON

1538
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:50,300
WHICH SCHOOL TO SEND THEIR

1539
00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:51,633
CHILD TO AND ACTIVELY INVOLVED

1540
00:46:51,633 --> 00:46:53,033
IN THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE

1541
00:46:53,033 --> 00:46:55,600
THAT THEIR CHILD IS RECEIVING A

1542
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,567
QUALITY EDUCATION.

1543
00:46:56,567 --> 00:46:57,733
I BELIEVE ALL KIDS IN LOUISIANA

1544
00:46:57,733 --> 00:46:59,200
ARE AT RISK AND I BELIEVE

1545
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,233
CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE PROVIDING

1546
00:47:00,233 --> 00:47:03,033
ALL OF THE KIDS THE OPPORTUNITY

1547
00:47:03,033 --> 00:47:04,067
TO HAVE SUCCESS.

1548
00:47:04,067 --> 00:47:05,467
IN NEW ORLEANS, WE ARE NOT

1549
00:47:05,467 --> 00:47:06,067
SELECTIVE.

1550
00:47:06,067 --> 00:47:07,267
THE KIDS AND FAMILIES ARE

1551
00:47:07,267 --> 00:47:08,367
ACTIVELY GETTING INVOLVED IN

1552
00:47:08,367 --> 00:47:10,633
THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM TO BE

1553
00:47:10,633 --> 00:47:11,767
PROACTIVE, TO MAKE SURE THAT

1554
00:47:11,767 --> 00:47:12,967
THEIR KIDS ACTUALLY HAVE A

1555
00:47:12,967 --> 00:47:13,767
CHANCE TO SUCCEED.

1556
00:47:13,767 --> 00:47:14,500
>> GO AHEAD.

1557
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:16,800
>> AND JUST TO RESPOND TO YOUR

1558
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,433
COMMENTS, IN FACT, I HAVE

1559
00:47:20,433 --> 00:47:22,733
VISITED NEW ORLEANS AND I HAVE

1560
00:47:22,733 --> 00:47:24,300
DISCUSSED WITH PARENTS OF THOSE

1561
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:26,100
SCHOOLS THAT HAVE A MISSION

1562
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:29,600
FOCUS, AND MY OPINION, THAT IF

1563
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,200
SELECTED ADMISSIONS -- ONE OF

1564
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,400
THE SUPPORTERS OF A CHARTER

1565
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,300
SCHOOL THERE WITH THE MISSION

1566
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,833
FOCUS INDICATED THAT AS PART OF

1567
00:47:39,833 --> 00:47:41,600
THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, THEY

1568
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,533
SEEK OUT LEADERS.

1569
00:47:42,533 --> 00:47:44,200
AND I HAD THE SAME PROGRAM IN

1570
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,333
ONE OF MY SCHOOLS IN ST. MARTIN

1571
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:49,533
PARISH, AND THE GENTLEMAN TOLD

1572
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:52,100
ME HE WAS LOOKING FOR LEADERS.

1573
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,567
WELL, MY TEACHER IS NOT

1574
00:47:54,567 --> 00:47:56,367
AFFORDED TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO

1575
00:47:56,367 --> 00:48:00,267
DISMISS STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT

1576
00:48:00,267 --> 00:48:02,433
THE LEADERS HE HAS IDENTIFIED.

1577
00:48:02,433 --> 00:48:04,733
SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY

1578
00:48:04,733 --> 00:48:05,967
THERE IS NO SELECTIVE

1579
00:48:05,967 --> 00:48:07,300
ADMISSION, BUT WE KNOW BETTER.

1580
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:08,400
>> YOU TALK ABOUT PARENTS.

1581
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,567
YOU KNOW, POUNDING THE

1582
00:48:09,567 --> 00:48:13,133
PAVEMENT, LOOKING FOR THE BEST

1583
00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:15,967
OPTION FOR THEIR KIDS, IT JUST

1584
00:48:15,967 --> 00:48:17,967
SEEMS LIKE IT IS SO CONFUSING.

1585
00:48:17,967 --> 00:48:19,600
HOW DO PARENTS REALLY NAVIGATE

1586
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,567
THE SCHOOL, THE OPTIONS THAT

1587
00:48:21,567 --> 00:48:22,267
THEY DO HAVE?

1588
00:48:22,267 --> 00:48:24,533
IT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE

1589
00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:25,667
OVERWHELMING FOR PARENTS AND

1590
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:27,467
THEY REALLY DO NEED TO BE

1591
00:48:27,467 --> 00:48:28,000
PROACTIVE.

1592
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,133
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PARENTS TO

1593
00:48:29,133 --> 00:48:31,433
HELP THEM FIGURE THIS ALL OUT?

1594
00:48:31,433 --> 00:48:32,033
>> SURE.

1595
00:48:32,033 --> 00:48:33,233
I WILL TAKE THAT QUESTION AND

1596
00:48:33,233 --> 00:48:36,933
ALSO TO CLARIFY, THERE ARE 120

1597
00:48:36,933 --> 00:48:38,400
CHARTER SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF

1598
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,133
LOUISIANA.

1599
00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:41,200
60 TYPE FIVE CHARTER SCHOOLS,

1600
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,633
OPEN ENROLLMENT AND THEY CAN'T

1601
00:48:42,633 --> 00:48:43,800
HAVE SELECTIVE CRITERIA.

1602
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,900
I WANT TO BE SURE THAT PEOPLE

1603
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:47,033
UNDERSTAND THAT IN NEW ORLEANS,

1604
00:48:47,033 --> 00:48:49,267
THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF

1605
00:48:49,267 --> 00:48:50,300
CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE ABSOLUTELY

1606
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:51,567
OPEN ENROLLMENT AND THEY ARE

1607
00:48:51,567 --> 00:48:52,900
NOT CHOOSING WHO COMES IN AND

1608
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:53,533
WHO LEAVES.

1609
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:57,233
IN TERMS OF THE SYSTEM THOUGH,

1610
00:48:57,233 --> 00:49:00,233
I DO AGREE IT CAN BE CONFUSING.

1611
00:49:00,233 --> 00:49:01,267
THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES

1612
00:49:01,267 --> 00:49:02,067
OF CHARTER SCHOOLS.

1613
00:49:02,067 --> 00:49:04,133
IN THE FUTURE, THERE COULD BE

1614
00:49:04,133 --> 00:49:04,667
SEVEN.

1615
00:49:04,667 --> 00:49:06,133
THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES

1616
00:49:06,133 --> 00:49:07,800
ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW.

1617
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,933
AND THERE ARE -- THERE ARE

1618
00:49:10,933 --> 00:49:13,100
RESOURCES FOR THOSE PARENTS.

1619
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,967
CHARTER SCHOOL ASSOCIATION, LA

1620
00:49:15,967 --> 00:49:19,600
SCHOOL FINDER, WHICH IS SORT OF

1621
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,367
LIKE CAR FACTS IF YOU HAVE

1622
00:49:21,367 --> 00:49:23,533
OTHER LOOKED FOR A CAR ONLINE.

1623
00:49:23,533 --> 00:49:25,067
THE SCHOOL FINDER IS LIKE THAT.

1624
00:49:25,067 --> 00:49:26,300
YOU PUT IN INFORMATION FOR WHAT

1625
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:28,467
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND IT SHOWS

1626
00:49:28,467 --> 00:49:29,967
YOU VARIOUS DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.

1627
00:49:29,967 --> 00:49:31,367
ALSO, IN NEW ORLEANS,

1628
00:49:31,367 --> 00:49:33,267
SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS A PARENT

1629
00:49:33,267 --> 00:49:35,500
GUIDE THAT COMES OUT THAT HELPS

1630
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:36,133
PARENTS.

1631
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:37,600
BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,

1632
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,533
IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT IS A

1633
00:49:39,533 --> 00:49:41,067
FAIR STATEMENT THAT IT CAN BE A

1634
00:49:41,067 --> 00:49:42,367
LITTLE OVERWHELMING.

1635
00:49:42,367 --> 00:49:43,067
>> OKAY.

1636
00:49:43,067 --> 00:49:44,467
I'M SORRY, MIKE, DID YOU WANT

1637
00:49:44,467 --> 00:49:45,667
TO GET IN THERE?

1638
00:49:45,667 --> 00:49:47,533
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT

1639
00:49:47,533 --> 00:49:49,267
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE THE

1640
00:49:49,267 --> 00:49:51,633
PARENTS TRY TO DECIDE WHAT

1641
00:49:51,633 --> 00:49:53,233
SCHOOL THEIR CHILD SHOULD

1642
00:49:53,233 --> 00:49:55,067
ATTEND UNLESS IT IS A VERY

1643
00:49:55,067 --> 00:49:56,300
SPECIFIC THING IF THERE IS A

1644
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:58,233
SCHOOL OFFERING A TECHNICAL

1645
00:49:58,233 --> 00:49:59,367
PROGRAM AND THEIR CHILD WANTS

1646
00:49:59,367 --> 00:50:01,400
TO BE A WELDER OR A TECHNICIAN

1647
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,133
OF SOME TYPE, MAYBE A COMPUTER

1648
00:50:04,133 --> 00:50:05,167
PROGRAMMER, CERTAINLY THAT

1649
00:50:05,167 --> 00:50:06,467
WOULD BE THE SCHOOL THAT YOU

1650
00:50:06,467 --> 00:50:07,433
COULD CHOOSE.

1651
00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:08,867
SO, BUT MOST SCHOOLS, WHAT WE

1652
00:50:08,867 --> 00:50:11,500
NEED TO HAVE IN LOUISIANA IS TO

1653
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,033
HAVE EVERY SCHOOL THAT HAS

1654
00:50:13,033 --> 00:50:15,000
EXCELLENT TEACHERS AND TO MAKE

1655
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,533
SURE THAT WE HAVE A BROAD

1656
00:50:16,533 --> 00:50:17,833
PROGRAM OFFERED TO ALL CHILDREN

1657
00:50:17,833 --> 00:50:19,500
SO THAT NO MATTER WHAT CHILD

1658
00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:21,633
COMES TO THAT SCHOOL, HE OR SHE

1659
00:50:21,633 --> 00:50:23,433
WILL GET A GOOD EDUCATION.

1660
00:50:23,433 --> 00:50:25,667
WE NEED TO PUT OUR PARENTS'

1661
00:50:25,667 --> 00:50:27,167
MINDS TO REST BY MAKING SURE

1662
00:50:27,167 --> 00:50:28,533
THAT ALL SCHOOLS ARE GOOD.

1663
00:50:28,533 --> 00:50:29,067
>> YES.

1664
00:50:29,067 --> 00:50:31,033
>> I VISITED A SCHOOL TODAY,

1665
00:50:31,033 --> 00:50:34,333
AND IT'S IDENTIFIED, LABELED A

1666
00:50:34,333 --> 00:50:34,800
C.

1667
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,833
MY GRANDSON ATTENDS THAT

1668
00:50:36,833 --> 00:50:37,333
SCHOOL.

1669
00:50:37,333 --> 00:50:40,433
AND I SAW SOME VERY EXEMPLARY

1670
00:50:40,433 --> 00:50:44,767
TEACHING TODAY, AND BY BESSY'S

1671
00:50:44,767 --> 00:50:47,267
DEFINITION, A C IS FAILURE.

1672
00:50:47,267 --> 00:50:50,033
OUR GOVERNOR WAS ON NATIONAL

1673
00:50:50,033 --> 00:50:52,233
NEWS, POINTING OUT THAT

1674
00:50:52,233 --> 00:50:54,433
ST. MARTIN PARISH SCHOOL SYSTEM

1675
00:50:54,433 --> 00:50:56,233
HAD SIX STUDENTS WHO WERE

1676
00:50:56,233 --> 00:50:57,533
AFFORDED A VOUCHER BECAUSE THEY

1677
00:50:57,533 --> 00:50:59,567
WERE ATTENDING AN F SCHOOL.

1678
00:50:59,567 --> 00:51:03,267
WELL, THE SCHOOL IS NOT AN F

1679
00:51:03,267 --> 00:51:03,867
SCHOOL.

1680
00:51:03,867 --> 00:51:07,233
BUT BY BESSY'S DEFINITION, IT

1681
00:51:07,233 --> 00:51:08,367
IS A FAILING SCHOOL.

1682
00:51:08,367 --> 00:51:10,700
WHEN I GREW UP, WHEN I WENT

1683
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,000
THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL

1684
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,500
PROGRAM.

1685
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:13,500
A C WAS AVERAGE.

1686
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:16,867
TODAY I SIT WITH A DOCTORATE,

1687
00:51:16,867 --> 00:51:19,633
AND, AGAIN, I MADE A FEW C'S IN

1688
00:51:19,633 --> 00:51:20,300
MY LIFE.

1689
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,833
THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M A

1690
00:51:22,833 --> 00:51:23,267
FAILURE.

1691
00:51:23,267 --> 00:51:25,033
I THINK WORK ETHIC IS VERY

1692
00:51:25,033 --> 00:51:25,600
IMPORTANT.

1693
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,733
OUR STUDENTS NEED THOSE WORK

1694
00:51:27,733 --> 00:51:28,167
ETHICS.

1695
00:51:28,167 --> 00:51:29,333
THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTILLED

1696
00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:30,233
WITHIN THEM.

1697
00:51:30,233 --> 00:51:31,900
WE NEED THE QUALITY TEACHERS

1698
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:34,000
AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE

1699
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,000
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING.

1700
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,033
OFTEN WE HEAR OF VARIED

1701
00:51:37,033 --> 00:51:38,400
COUNTRIES AND HOW EXCELLENT

1702
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,100
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THEY HAVE,

1703
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,033
BUT THEY PROVIDE THE

1704
00:51:42,033 --> 00:51:43,900
PROFESSIONAL LEARNING FOR THEIR

1705
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,200
TEACHERS, JOB EMBEDDED DURING

1706
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,600
THE DAY, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN

1707
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,167
WHEN WE HOLD UP THESE OTHER

1708
00:51:51,167 --> 00:51:52,567
COUNTRIES, WE NEED TO INFORM

1709
00:51:52,567 --> 00:51:54,833
THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE DOING

1710
00:51:54,833 --> 00:51:56,100
THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND PERHAPS

1711
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:57,567
IF WE FOLLOW THEIR LEAD, WE

1712
00:51:57,567 --> 00:51:58,733
COULD DO A BETTER JOB AT WHAT

1713
00:51:58,733 --> 00:51:59,767
WE DO.

1714
00:51:59,767 --> 00:52:02,367
>> LET'S BRING IN AUDIENCE

1715
00:52:02,367 --> 00:52:02,933
MEMBERS.

1716
00:52:02,933 --> 00:52:03,833
YOUR QUESTION.

1717
00:52:03,833 --> 00:52:05,600
>> MY QUESTION WAS WHAT IS THE

1718
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,567
DEMAND FOR ENROLLMENT?

1719
00:52:07,567 --> 00:52:08,967
HOW MANY STUDENTS ENROLL AND

1720
00:52:08,967 --> 00:52:10,967
ARE NOT ABLE TO GET INTO A

1721
00:52:10,967 --> 00:52:12,800
CHARTER SCHOOL AND ULTIMATELY

1722
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,767
WHAT DO THEY DO?

1723
00:52:13,767 --> 00:52:15,567
>> CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE

1724
00:52:15,567 --> 00:52:15,967
THAT?

1725
00:52:15,967 --> 00:52:18,167
>> YEAH, SO IN NEW ORLEANS, YOU

1726
00:52:18,167 --> 00:52:22,033
HAD WAIT LIST, YOU KNOW, WHEN

1727
00:52:22,033 --> 00:52:23,167
THERE WAS INDIVIDUAL -- WAIT

1728
00:52:23,167 --> 00:52:25,033
LISTS IN THE HUNDREDS.

1729
00:52:25,033 --> 00:52:26,767
FAMILIES WANTED TO GO THERE.

1730
00:52:26,767 --> 00:52:28,633
MOST RECENT APPLICATIONS,

1731
00:52:28,633 --> 00:52:30,100
EVERYONE CAN PUT UP TO EIGHT

1732
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,467
CHOICES WHERE THEY WANT TO DO.

1733
00:52:31,467 --> 00:52:33,467
YOU SEE A TREND OF THE HIGHER

1734
00:52:33,467 --> 00:52:34,700
PERFORMING SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS

1735
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,233
GROWING MORE ACADEMICALLY ARE

1736
00:52:36,233 --> 00:52:38,467
THE ONES GETTING MORE AND MORE

1737
00:52:38,467 --> 00:52:40,000
PARENTS SAYING WE WANT TO GO TO

1738
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:40,933
THAT SCHOOL.

1739
00:52:40,933 --> 00:52:42,367
WE MAY BE SELLING PARENTS A

1740
00:52:42,367 --> 00:52:43,933
LITTLE SHORT BY NOT SAYING THEY

1741
00:52:43,933 --> 00:52:45,700
CAN NAVIGATE THIS AND WE FIGURE

1742
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,400
OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE A LOT OF

1743
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,933
CHOICES IN OUR LIFE.

1744
00:52:49,933 --> 00:52:51,467
WHAT YOU SEE FOR NEW ORLEANS,

1745
00:52:51,467 --> 00:52:56,133
GO IN FOR A SCHOOL SEARCH -- IT

1746
00:52:56,133 --> 00:53:01,767
LOOKS LIKE ELECTION DAYS.

1747
00:53:01,767 --> 00:53:03,133
OUR SCHOOL DOES THIS.

1748
00:53:03,133 --> 00:53:04,867
HERE IS OUR TEST SCORES.

1749
00:53:04,867 --> 00:53:06,000
YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE

1750
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,900
PEOPLE -- MY KID GOES TO THE

1751
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:09,067
FASTEST GROWING SCHOOLS IN ALL

1752
00:53:09,067 --> 00:53:09,867
OF LOUISIANA.

1753
00:53:09,867 --> 00:53:13,033
THESE ARE THINGS THAT PARENTS

1754
00:53:13,033 --> 00:53:14,200
RALLY AROUND AND THEY FIGURE

1755
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,200
OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE.

1756
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,300
>> WHAT IS GOING ON IN NEW

1757
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:17,733
ORLEANS?

1758
00:53:17,733 --> 00:53:19,900
IS THAT ALL BEING REPLICATED IN

1759
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,233
OTHER PARISHES WHERE THERE ARE

1760
00:53:22,233 --> 00:53:23,033
CHARTER SCHOOLS --

1761
00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:24,300
>> BATON ROUGE, IN BATON ROUGE,

1762
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:26,967
IT IS JUST THE OPPOSITE.

1763
00:53:26,967 --> 00:53:29,333
INSTEAD OF STUDENTS FLOCKING TO

1764
00:53:29,333 --> 00:53:30,967
THE NINE CHARTER SCHOOLS IN

1765
00:53:30,967 --> 00:53:32,300
BATON ROUGE, THEY HAVE BEEN

1766
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:33,567
LEAVING THE CHARTER SCHOOLS AND

1767
00:53:33,567 --> 00:53:34,867
THE ENROLLMENT DROPPED TO LESS

1768
00:53:34,867 --> 00:53:36,167
THAN HALF OF WHAT IT STARTED

1769
00:53:36,167 --> 00:53:36,767
OFF BEING.

1770
00:53:36,767 --> 00:53:38,133
I GUESS IF YOU HAD A SYSTEM

1771
00:53:38,133 --> 00:53:40,600
THAT IS ALMOST 100% CHARTER

1772
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,767
SCHOOLS, CERTAINLY YOU ARE

1773
00:53:41,767 --> 00:53:44,067
GOING TO HAVE COMPETITION TO

1774
00:53:44,067 --> 00:53:45,233
WHERE -- WHICH CHARTER SCHOOLS

1775
00:53:45,233 --> 00:53:46,400
DO I WANT TO ATTEND.

1776
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,367
IN THE BATON ROUGE AREA, IT IS

1777
00:53:48,367 --> 00:53:49,400
JUST THE OPPOSITE.

1778
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,867
CHILDREN HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY

1779
00:53:50,867 --> 00:53:52,433
OR PARENTS HAVE SAID I THINK I

1780
00:53:52,433 --> 00:53:54,267
WOULD RATHER STAY WITH THE

1781
00:53:54,267 --> 00:53:56,400
TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS IN MANY

1782
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:56,800
CASES.

1783
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,333
>> YOUR QUESTION.

1784
00:53:59,333 --> 00:54:02,367
>> ACTUALLY -- ACTUALLY TOUCHED

1785
00:54:02,367 --> 00:54:06,567
ON MY QUESTION, AND VERONICA

1786
00:54:06,567 --> 00:54:07,800
ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

1787
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,600
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM

1788
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,467
THE OTHER PANELISTS ON DO

1789
00:54:14,467 --> 00:54:15,467
TEACHERS IN THE CHARTER

1790
00:54:15,467 --> 00:54:17,567
SCHOOLS, DO THEY HAVE TO BE

1791
00:54:17,567 --> 00:54:18,133
CERTIFIED?

1792
00:54:18,133 --> 00:54:21,300
AND IF NOT, WHY IS IT FLIP-FLOP

1793
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:23,133
FROM CHARTERS AND IT'S NOT IN

1794
00:54:23,133 --> 00:54:25,400
THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEY HAVE

1795
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,567
TO DO --

1796
00:54:26,567 --> 00:54:28,267
>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK A

1797
00:54:28,267 --> 00:54:30,267
LEGISLATOR THAT, PART OF THE

1798
00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:31,600
LEGISLATION PASSED IN 2012.

1799
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,900
AND I QUESTION THAT DAILY.

1800
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:35,800
AS A SUPERINTENDENT AND A

1801
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,600
FORMER PERSONNEL DIRECTOR, I

1802
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,033
HAD TO SEEK CERTIFIED TEACHERS.

1803
00:54:40,033 --> 00:54:42,000
AND I CERTAINLY ADVOCATE

1804
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,800
CERTIFIED TEACHERS IN THE

1805
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,333
CLASSROOM, BECAUSE THEY MEET

1806
00:54:47,333 --> 00:54:48,400
THAT STANDARD.

1807
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,967
I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE IF I GO TO

1808
00:54:49,967 --> 00:54:52,367
A SURGEON, I WANT TO BE SURE

1809
00:54:52,367 --> 00:54:53,900
THAT THAT SURGEON IS

1810
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:54,400
CREDENTIALED.

1811
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,567
AND I BELIEVE OUR TEACHERS NEED

1812
00:54:55,567 --> 00:54:58,500
TO HAVE THAT TEACHER

1813
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:01,600
CERTIFICATION, AND CRITICS WHO

1814
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,900
SAY I AGREE OFTENTIMES YOU WILL

1815
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:06,067
FIND -- AN INEQUALITY.

1816
00:55:06,067 --> 00:55:08,000
THEY ARE NATURAL-BORN TEACHERS,

1817
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,900
BUT I BELIEVE THE STANDARDS

1818
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:11,167
SHOULD BE MET AND IT WAS

1819
00:55:11,167 --> 00:55:12,367
THROUGH LEGISLATION, HOWEVER,

1820
00:55:12,367 --> 00:55:18,100
IN POLICY, IT SAYS THAT PUBLIC

1821
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,033
SCHOOLTEACHERS SHOULD POSSESS A

1822
00:55:20,033 --> 00:55:21,767
CERTIFICATION, BUT, AGAIN, THE

1823
00:55:21,767 --> 00:55:25,100
LEGISLATURE IN 2012, INDICATED

1824
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,600
THAT THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

1825
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,967
>> WE ARE RUNNING VERY, VERY

1826
00:55:27,967 --> 00:55:28,733
SHORT ON TIME.

1827
00:55:28,733 --> 00:55:30,367
CHRIS YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANTED

1828
00:55:30,367 --> 00:55:30,800
TO --

1829
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,333
>> WELL QUICKLY, THERE IS A LOT

1830
00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:33,733
OF SURGEONS AROUND THE WORLD,

1831
00:55:33,733 --> 00:55:35,167
BUT WHEN YOU NEEDED THE HEALTH

1832
00:55:35,167 --> 00:55:36,467
CARE, YOU COME TO THE UNITED

1833
00:55:36,467 --> 00:55:40,267
STATES BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING

1834
00:55:40,267 --> 00:55:44,467
FOR SPECIFIC SKILL SETS AND

1835
00:55:44,467 --> 00:55:45,000
PEOPLE.

1836
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,100
CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE A PRESSURE

1837
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:48,133
BECAUSE OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY

1838
00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:49,733
STANDARDS, IF THEY DON'T

1839
00:55:49,733 --> 00:55:51,067
PRODUCE RESULTS AND DON'T BUILD

1840
00:55:51,067 --> 00:55:54,400
THE BEST TEAM TO HELP THEM

1841
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,900
PRODUCE RESULTS, THEY WILL BE

1842
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:56,733
PUT OUT OF BUSINESS.

1843
00:55:56,733 --> 00:56:00,800
THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE

1844
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,667
PLACE --

1845
00:56:02,667 --> 00:56:06,233
>> THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE STEP

1846
00:56:06,233 --> 00:56:07,300
BACKWARDS TO REMOVE THE

1847
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:08,300
REQUIREMENT FOR CERTIFICATION.

1848
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:10,933
>> WE ARE GOING TO LET THAT BE

1849
00:56:10,933 --> 00:56:11,733
THE LAST WORD.

1850
00:56:11,733 --> 00:56:12,933
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

1851
00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:18,100
WE HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME FOR OUR

1852
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:21,900
Q AND A SEGMENT.

1853
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,400
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF

1854
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,367
OUR PANELISTS.

1855
00:56:26,367 --> 00:56:27,467
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

1856
00:56:27,467 --> 00:56:27,933
HERE.

1857
00:56:27,933 --> 00:56:29,233
WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL HAVE

1858
00:56:29,233 --> 00:56:31,433
A FEW CLOSING COMMENTS.

1859
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,733
>> SHAUNA, CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE

1860
00:56:40,733 --> 00:56:42,067
CERTAINLY A BIG TOPIC IN NEW

1861
00:56:42,067 --> 00:56:43,933
ORLEANS, BATON ROUGE, I SEE

1862
00:56:43,933 --> 00:56:45,033
THIS CONVERSATION SPREADING

1863
00:56:45,033 --> 00:56:48,267
ACROSS THE STATE FOR ALL OF OUR

1864
00:56:48,267 --> 00:56:49,833
VIEWERS AROUND LOUISIANA.

1865
00:56:49,833 --> 00:56:51,667
I THINK IT HAS BEEN VERY

1866
00:56:51,667 --> 00:56:53,233
THOUGHTFUL AND A LOT OF

1867
00:56:53,233 --> 00:56:54,233
QUESTIONS THAT STILL NEED

1868
00:56:54,233 --> 00:56:55,767
FURTHER FLUSHING OUT.

1869
00:56:55,767 --> 00:56:57,633
>> AND VERY COLLABORATIVE.

1870
00:56:57,633 --> 00:56:59,900
WE WANTED THIS TO BE A

1871
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:00,800
COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION.

1872
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,967
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT CAME

1873
00:57:01,967 --> 00:57:03,600
OUT FOR ME IS THAT IT SEEMS TO

1874
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,367
BE A CONSENSUS AMONG AUDIENCE

1875
00:57:06,367 --> 00:57:07,967
MEMBERS AND PANELISTS, IT IS

1876
00:57:07,967 --> 00:57:09,733
NOT TRADITIONAL VERSUS

1877
00:57:09,733 --> 00:57:10,300
CHARTERS.

1878
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:11,500
CHARTERS ARE HERE AND HERE TO

1879
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:12,633
STAY AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A

1880
00:57:12,633 --> 00:57:14,000
PLACE FOR ALL OF THEM.

1881
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,733
>> WE DIDN'T GET INTO ALL OF

1882
00:57:15,733 --> 00:57:17,600
THE VIRTUAL, ONLINE THINGS THAT

1883
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,600
YOU TALK ABOUT.

1884
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,433
>> CONSTANT CONVERSATION.

1885
00:57:19,433 --> 00:57:20,233
>> ABSOLUTELY.

1886
00:57:20,233 --> 00:57:22,200
>> THAT IS ALL OF THE TIME WE

1887
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,500
HAVE FOR THIS EDITION OF

1888
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:30,200
"LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE."

1889
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,767
VISIT OUR WEB SITE.

1890
00:57:34,767 --> 00:57:36,367
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU

1891
00:57:36,367 --> 00:57:37,700
AS WE DID FROM VIEWERS

1892
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:39,600
FOLLOWING LAST MONTH'S PROGRAM,

1893
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,867
GAY IN LOUISIANA.

1894
00:57:40,867 --> 00:57:42,267
SCOTT WRITES I WAS DENIED

1895
00:57:42,267 --> 00:57:43,433
EMPLOYMENT IN THE HOUSING

1896
00:57:43,433 --> 00:57:45,000
DEPARTMENT OF A MAJOR TEXAS

1897
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,767
UNIVERSITY BASED ON THE

1898
00:57:46,767 --> 00:57:48,767
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OF MY

1899
00:57:48,767 --> 00:57:49,300
SUPERVISOR.

1900
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:51,133
HIS RELIGION TOLD HIM GOING GAY

1901
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:52,500
WAS UNACCEPTABLE.

1902
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:54,133
MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS WOULD NOT

1903
00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:56,233
BE CONSIDERED.

1904
00:57:56,233 --> 00:57:59,567
YUSEF WRITES THE WORD GAY MEANS

1905
00:57:59,567 --> 00:58:00,967
HAPPY AND --

1906
00:58:00,967 --> 00:58:03,367
>> AND JOHN WRITES, THANK YOU

1907
00:58:03,367 --> 00:58:05,067
LPB FOR PRODUCING PUBLIC

1908
00:58:05,067 --> 00:58:06,433
SQUARE, A PROGRAM THAT

1909
00:58:06,433 --> 00:58:07,667
LOUISIANANS ARE FORTUNATE TO

1910
00:58:07,667 --> 00:58:08,167
HAVE.

1911
00:58:08,167 --> 00:58:10,700
IT FOSTERS INLIGHTENING

1912
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:11,767
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TONIGHT'S

1913
00:58:11,767 --> 00:58:12,700
TOPIC AND OTHERS.

1914
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:14,633
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR

1915
00:58:14,633 --> 00:58:15,267
COMMENTS.

1916
00:58:15,267 --> 00:58:18,267
>>> UNDER MANDATORY DRUG

1917
00:58:18,267 --> 00:58:19,367
SENTENCES, COST LOUISIANA

1918
00:58:19,367 --> 00:58:22,533
TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

1919
00:58:22,533 --> 00:58:34,367
TO INCARS  -- JOIN US NEXT

1920
00:58:34,367 --> 00:58:35,533
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1921
00:58:35,533 --> 00:58:38,667
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1922
00:58:38,667 --> 00:58:41,167
POT OR NOT, THE LEGALIZATION

1923
00:58:41,167 --> 00:58:41,667
DEBATE.

1924
00:58:41,667 --> 00:58:42,567
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

1925
00:58:42,567 --> 00:58:43,767
>> THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING.

1926
00:58:43,767 --> 00:58:44,667
>> VERY INTERESTING.

1927
00:58:44,667 --> 00:58:45,533
>> ABSOLUTELY.

1928
00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:54,367
THANK YOU, GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE.

1929
00:59:19,467 --> 00:59:25,167
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1931
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