WEBVTT 00:10.133 --> 00:10.667 position:37.88% line:84.67% size:24.25% ♪♪ ♪♪ 00:10.800 --> 00:11.333 position:37.88% line:84.67% size:24.25% ♪♪ ♪♪ 00:11.533 --> 00:13.467 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% SUPPORT FOR THIS PROGRAM IS PROVIDED BY THE FOUNDATION FOR 00:13.600 --> 00:18.200 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% EXCELLENCE IN LOUISIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND FROM VIEWERS 00:18.333 --> 00:28.100 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% LIKE YOU. ♪[ THEME SONG PLAYING ]♪ 00:28.233 --> 00:43.633 position:37.88% line:84.67% size:24.25% ♪♪ ♪♪ 00:43.833 --> 00:45.900 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% HELLO AND WELCOME TO "LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE." 00:46.033 --> 00:50.367 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% I'M BETH COURTNEY, PRESIDENT OF LPB AND JOINING US TO MODERATE 00:50.500 --> 00:54.300 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION ON THE NEWS MEDIA IS A JOURNALIST AND 00:54.433 --> 00:56.933 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% PROFESSOR AT THE LSU MANCHIN SCHOOL OF MASS COMMUNICATION, 00:57.067 --> 00:59.833 position:29.48% line:84.67% size:41.03% BOB MANN. WELCOME BOB. 01:00.033 --> 01:02.367 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% THANK YOU BETH. AS SOMEONE WHO PREPARES STUDENTS 01:02.500 --> 01:04.700 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% FOR THIS FIELD I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC AND 01:04.833 --> 01:08.400 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% IT'S AN INDUSTRY THAT HAS CHANGED -- HAS FACED MAJOR 01:08.533 --> 01:10.433 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% CHANGES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 01:10.567 --> 01:13.133 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% SINCE 2003, NEWSPAPER ADVERTISING REVENUE HAS DECLINED 01:13.267 --> 01:15.633 position:21.09% line:84.67% size:57.81% BY 52%. IN CABLE NEWS JUST FIVE 01:15.767 --> 01:19.800 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% COMPANIES CONTROL 84% OF THE MARKET SHARE AND TODAY, 43% OF 01:19.933 --> 01:24.000 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% THE PUBLIC GETS ITS NEWS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. 01:24.200 --> 01:26.733 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% WELL, IN ADDITION TO INTERNAL CHALLENGES, THE NEWS MEDIA AS AN 01:26.867 --> 01:30.167 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% INSTITUTION HAS RECENTLY COME UNDER ATTACK FROM PUBLIC FIGURES 01:30.300 --> 01:33.767 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% AND COMMENTATORS, NOT SURPRISINGLY, MISTRUST OF THE 01:33.900 --> 01:37.100 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% NEWS MEDIA CONTINUES TO GROW. TONIGHT, WE EXPLORE HOW TO 01:37.233 --> 01:41.100 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% RESTORE THAT TRUST, WAYS TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN FAKE AND 01:41.233 --> 01:44.767 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% REAL NEWS, AND WHAT ROLE SOCIAL MEDIA PLAYS IN BLURRING THAT 01:44.900 --> 01:49.467 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% DISTINCTION, ALL THIS AND MORE ON NEWS ABOUT THE NEWS. 01:49.667 --> 01:52.833 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEWS MEDIA, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP 01:53.000 --> 01:57.800 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% HAS SEIZED ON A TRADEMARK CATCH PHRASE TO DESCRIBE OUTLETS HE 01:57.933 --> 02:01.500 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% DISAGREES WITH. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS. 02:01.700 --> 02:05.833 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% PRESIDENT TRUMP FIRST TWEETED THE WORDS FAKE NEWS IN DECEMBER 02:05.967 --> 02:10.067 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% OF 2016 AND SINCE THEN HAS USED THE TERM MORE THAN 66 TIMES ON 02:10.200 --> 02:13.200 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT. DO YOU CRITICIZE JOURNALISTS 02:13.333 --> 02:17.633 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% FOR HAVING BIAS? FOR NOT COVERING CERTAIN STORIES 02:17.767 --> 02:18.900 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% ENOUGH? BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING 02:19.033 --> 02:21.433 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% THAN SAYING THEY'RE FAKE. SO WHEN YOU GO BEYOND JUST 02:21.567 --> 02:24.833 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% SAYING THEY MIGHT HAVE A LIBERAL BIAS TO SAYING THAT WHAT THEY'RE 02:25.000 --> 02:26.833 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% DOING IS COMPLETELY MADE UP THAT'S CROSSING A LINE. 02:26.967 --> 02:31.100 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% THAT'S A DANGEROUS LINE FOR A DEMOCRACY TO CROSS. 02:31.300 --> 02:35.167 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% HE IS AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT LSU'S SCHOOL OF 02:35.300 --> 02:37.967 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% COMMUNICATION. HE SAYS TRUE FAKE NEWS IS AN 02:38.100 --> 02:40.667 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% INTENTIONALLY FALSE STORY, OFTEN ONLINE. 02:40.800 --> 02:45.400 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% IT ACTS AS A BAIT TO GENERATE TRAFFIC AND AD REVENUE. 02:45.533 --> 02:50.167 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THE SECOND TYPE OF FAKE NEWS IS BASED MORE ON PERCEPTION THAN 02:50.300 --> 02:53.000 position:22.02% line:84.67% size:55.95% ACCURACY. THERE'S ALSO CERTAIN 02:53.133 --> 02:57.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% PROMINENT POLITICIANS AND MEDIA COMMENTATORS WHO ARE ACCUSING 02:57.733 --> 03:00.033 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% TRADITIONAL JOURNALISM OF BEING FAKE NEWS AND THAT'S AN 03:00.167 --> 03:04.500 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% IMPORTANT OTHER MEANING OF FAKE NEWS THESE DAYS, ESPECIALLY 03:04.633 --> 03:08.433 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% BECAUSE IT DOES BLUR THIS LINE OF -- BRING OF THIS QUESTION OF 03:08.567 --> 03:11.533 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% WHAT IS REAL NEWS? PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DISPLEASURE 03:11.667 --> 03:15.933 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% WITH THE NATIONAL MEDIA MAY BE SOMEWHAT JUSTIFIED BASED ON HIS 03:16.067 --> 03:17.667 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% COVERAGE. ACCORDING TO A PEW STUDY, THE 03:17.800 --> 03:22.700 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% MAJORITY OF NEWS REPORTS ON HIS FIRST 60 DAYS FOCUSED ON HIS 03:22.833 --> 03:25.000 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% PERSONALITY RATHER THAN HIS POLICY. 03:25.133 --> 03:26.767 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% TWO THIRDS OF THEM WERE NEGATIVE. 03:26.900 --> 03:30.333 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% WHATEVER THE CASE HIS CONSTANT ATTACKS ON THE MEDIA HAVE 03:30.467 --> 03:33.867 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% AFFECTED PUBLIC TRUST, PARTICULARLY SINCE HIS ELECTION. 03:34.067 --> 03:36.733 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% THE DECLINE IN TRUST PARTICULARLY AMONG REPUBLICANS 03:36.867 --> 03:39.133 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% HAS BEEN GOING BACK SINCE THE '70s. 03:39.267 --> 03:43.667 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% AND, IN FACT, FOR DEMOCRATS YOU SEE A PRETTY STEEP JUMP RIGHT 03:43.800 --> 03:47.100 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% AFTER 2016 WHERE DEMOCRATS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE SUDDENLY, 03:47.233 --> 03:50.833 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% A LOT MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEDIA THAN THEY HAD BEEN JUST 03:50.967 --> 03:52.833 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% SINCE 2015. MICHAEL HENDERSON IS THE 03:52.967 --> 03:55.600 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% DIRECTOR OF THE LSU PUBLIC POLICY RESEARCH LAB. 03:55.733 --> 04:01.633 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% THE LAB'S STATEWIDE 2018 LOUISIANA SURVEY REVEALED THAT 04:01.767 --> 04:07.833 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% RESIDENTS' TRUST IN LOCAL MEDIA IS HIGH, 78%, COMPARED TO ONLY 04:07.967 --> 04:10.767 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% 57% OF RESPONDENTS WHO FIND NATIONAL NEWS TRUSTWORTHY. 04:10.967 --> 04:13.933 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% WHERE WE DID SEE SORT OF A CHINK IN THE ARMOR WHEN IT COMES 04:14.067 --> 04:18.400 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% TO LOCAL MEDIA HAD TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE THOUGHT 04:18.533 --> 04:21.600 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% LOCAL MEDIA -- WHEN COVERING POLITICAL ISSUES IN THE STATE 04:21.733 --> 04:25.700 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% TREATED ALL SIDES FAIRLY. OR TENDED TO FAVOR ONE SIDE. 04:25.833 --> 04:29.767 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% AND WE FIND THAT 60% OF PEOPLE IN LOUISIANA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 04:29.900 --> 04:32.733 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% THE MEDIA DOES TEND TO FAVOR A PARTICULAR SIDE. 04:32.933 --> 04:37.500 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% WE LET OUR READERS DOWN IF WE'RE NOT FAIR AND BALANCED AND, 04:37.633 --> 04:40.000 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% YOU KNOW, ALWAYS SAY YOU WANT HALF THE MARKET MAD AT YOU AT 04:40.167 --> 04:43.333 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% ANY GIVEN TIME BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB. 04:43.467 --> 04:46.167 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% [LAUGHS] JUDY IS PRESIDENT OF THE 04:46.300 --> 04:49.400 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% ADVOCATE, LOUISIANA'S LARGEST DAILY NEWSPAPER. 04:49.533 --> 04:54.267 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% SHE SAYS THEIR REPORTERS WORK DILIGENTLY TO INCLUDE DIVERSE 04:54.400 --> 04:57.567 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% SOURCES AND NOT HAVE PERSONAL BELIEFS BLEED INTO THEIR 04:57.700 --> 04:59.833 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% COVERAGE. THE PAPER HAS SEEN HISTORIC 04:59.967 --> 05:03.800 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% GROWTH IN A STRUGGLING INDUSTRY. WE ARE ACTUALLY GROWING 05:03.933 --> 05:07.600 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% CIRCULATION REVENUE WEEK OVER WEEK, YEAR-OVER-YEAR. 05:07.733 --> 05:10.533 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% I MEAN, IT'S REALLY AN ANOMALY IN OUR BUSINESS. 05:10.733 --> 05:13.700 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% ACCORDING TO THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER, TOTAL CIRCULATION FOR 05:13.833 --> 05:18.367 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% U.S. DAILY NEWSPAPERS FELL 8% IN 2016. 05:18.500 --> 05:23.533 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% THE 28th CONSECUTIVE YEAR OF DECLINES. 05:23.667 --> 05:25.767 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% JOHN IS SENIOR STAFF WRITER OF THE TIMES. 05:25.900 --> 05:31.800 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% HE SAYS DECLINING REVENUES CAN CONTRIBUTE TO MEDIA MISTRUST. 05:32.000 --> 05:36.200 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% SMALLER NEWSROOMS, FEWER PEOPLE MAKES FOR MORE MISTAKES, 05:36.333 --> 05:39.533 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% IT MAKES FOR MORE MISUNDERSTANDING. 05:39.667 --> 05:43.700 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% YOU'VE GOT ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR SIX THINGS IN A 05:43.833 --> 05:46.033 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% DAY WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE OR TWO 05:46.200 --> 05:48.533 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% THINGS IN A DAY. DESPITE THEIR ABILITY TO 05:48.667 --> 05:52.200 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% OFFER IN-DEPTH COVERAGE, NEWSPAPERS RANK FOURTH AS 05:52.333 --> 05:57.133 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% AMERICANS' NEWS SOURCE BEHIND TELEVISION, SOCIAL MEDIA, AND 05:57.267 --> 06:00.500 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% RADIO. NO MATTER THE MEDIUM, GOOD 06:00.633 --> 06:02.800 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING CAN BE EXPENSIVE. 06:03.000 --> 06:07.167 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% CREATING A STORY, GOING AND DOING ALL THE WORK TO FIND THE 06:07.300 --> 06:12.400 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% FACTS IS A MORE IMPORTANT PART OF THE OVERALL COSTS OF NEWS. 06:12.533 --> 06:16.700 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% AND THAT ALSO MEANS THAT SOURCES THAT SKIMP ON THAT HAVE A BIGGER 06:16.833 --> 06:20.300 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% ADVANTAGE THAN THEY USED TO. SO I THINK NEW MEDIA IS 06:20.433 --> 06:23.033 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% ACCELERATING THAT TREND. SOCIAL MEDIA IS MORE LIKELY 06:23.167 --> 06:25.133 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% TO INCLUDE INTENTIONAL FAKE NEWS. 06:25.267 --> 06:29.633 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, 20 FALSE 06:29.767 --> 06:34.133 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% ELECTION STORIES GENERATED OVER 8 MILLION SHARES, REACTIONS AND 06:34.267 --> 06:37.767 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK. I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA MAY BLUR 06:37.900 --> 06:43.133 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% THE LINE BETWEEN FAKE AND REAL NEWS TO SOME EXTENT JUST BECAUSE 06:43.267 --> 06:46.100 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% REAL NEWS CAN BE PRESENTED ALONGSIDE FAKE NEWS IN THE SAME 06:46.233 --> 06:50.000 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% FEED, BUT I THINK THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON WHETHER THAT'S THE 06:50.133 --> 06:52.600 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% CASE IN TERMS OF THE EFFECT ON THE AUDIENCE. 06:52.833 --> 06:55.900 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% FACEBOOK WILL SOON BE CONDUCTING SURVEYS AMONG ITS 06:56.033 --> 07:00.333 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% USERS TO RANK NEWS ORGANIZATIONS AND ASSIGN THEM TRUST SCORES. 07:00.467 --> 07:04.067 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% THE ADVOCATE IS ALREADY USING REALTIME FEEDBACK FROM ITS 07:04.200 --> 07:06.833 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% ONLINE VIEWERS TO DRIVE COVERAGE. 07:07.033 --> 07:10.800 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% WE'RE WATCHING THE TRAFFIC ALL DAY LONG ON THOSE STORIES 07:10.933 --> 07:14.033 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH -- READERS ARE VOTING FOR WHAT WE 07:14.167 --> 07:15.500 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% SHOULD COVER. YOU REALLY HAVE LIMITED 07:15.633 --> 07:17.467 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% RESOURCES SO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUR AUDIENCE. 07:17.600 --> 07:21.600 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT, AND THEN THAT WILL 07:21.733 --> 07:24.867 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% DICTATE OUR COVERAGE. FACED WITH A VAST NUMBER OF 07:25.000 --> 07:30.567 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% NEWS SOURCES, TODAY'S NEWS CONSUMER NEEDS TO BE MUCH MORE 07:30.700 --> 07:32.767 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% DISCERNING. THAT STARTS WITH NOT JUST 07:32.900 --> 07:37.133 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% IDENTIFYING WHAT IS FAKE NEWS, BUT WHAT NEWS MATTERS. 07:37.333 --> 07:43.833 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% NEWS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT WHAT'S NEW AND WHAT'S CHANGING 07:43.967 --> 07:46.600 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS SOMETIMES THE CASE THAT THAT MEANS 07:46.733 --> 07:53.333 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% IMPORTANT ISSUES ARE NEGLECTED. IT'S NEVER BEEN CALLED 07:53.467 --> 07:54.733 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% IMPORTANTS. IT'S BEEN CALLED NEWS. 07:54.867 --> 07:58.000 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% FASTER NEWS CYCLES MAKE THAT DISTINCTION EVEN MORE IMPORTANT 07:58.133 --> 08:00.100 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% FOR AUDIENCES TO PAY ATTENTION TO. 08:00.233 --> 08:05.767 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% SO IT'S UP TO US TO -- AS NEWS CONSUMERS, TO CHOOSE THE OUTLETS 08:05.900 --> 08:09.267 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THAT GIVE US OUR VEGETABLES, THAT GIVE US THE IMPORTANT STUFF 08:09.400 --> 08:11.900 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% WE NEED TO KNOW TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD. 08:12.100 --> 08:15.200 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% WELL, JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE NEWS MEDIA ARE SOME OF THOSE 08:15.333 --> 08:17.567 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% NEWS CONSUMERS AS WELL AS PRODUCERS. 08:17.700 --> 08:20.800 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE LOUISIANA PRESS ASSOCIATION AND 08:20.933 --> 08:23.033 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% RESIDENTS WITH A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THIS TOPIC. 08:23.167 --> 08:25.767 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% WE ALSO HAVE THREE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE 08:25.900 --> 08:28.900 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL. WELCOME EVERYONE. 08:29.033 --> 08:32.200 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER FOR JOURNALISM AND MEDIA HAS BEEN 08:32.367 --> 08:36.567 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% CONDUCTING SURVEYS ON THE TRUST IN THE MEDIA FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 08:36.700 --> 08:39.067 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% ITS 2017 FINDINGS ARE THAT AMERICANS HAVE ONLY MODERATE 08:39.200 --> 08:44.100 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% TRUST IN MOST NEWS SOURCES. WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONAL NEWS 08:44.233 --> 08:47.300 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% ORGANIZATIONS, 52% OF RESPONDENTS HAVE SOME TRUST IN 08:47.433 --> 08:50.567 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% THE CONTENT, BUT JUST 20% GIVING A LOT OF TRUST TO WHAT THEY SEE 08:50.700 --> 08:53.100 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% AND HEAR FROM NATIONAL NEWS OUTLETS. 08:53.233 --> 08:55.900 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% LOCAL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS FARE SOMEWHAT BETTER. 08:56.033 --> 09:00.500 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% 60% OF CONSUMERS OF LOCAL NEWS TRUST THE CONTENT THEY RECEIVE. 09:00.633 --> 09:04.567 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% 25% TRUST IT A LOT. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE 09:04.700 --> 09:07.467 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% PERCEIVED FAIRNESS OF THE NEWS MEDIA A STRONG MAJORITY OF 09:07.600 --> 09:10.533 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% AMERICANS, 72% CONTINUE TO SAY NEWS ORGANIZATIONS TEND TO FAVOR 09:10.667 --> 09:14.933 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% ONE SIDE IN PRESENTING NEWS ON POLITICS AND SOCIAL ISSUES. 09:15.067 --> 09:18.467 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% JUST 28% SAY THEY DEAL FAIRLY WITH ALL SIDES. 09:18.600 --> 09:21.867 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% SO LET'S START THERE. WHERE DO YOU GET THE MAJORITY OF 09:22.000 --> 09:25.800 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% YOUR NEWS AND DO YOU TRUST WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AND HEARING? 09:26.000 --> 09:29.500 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% MY NAME IS RALENA, I'M WITH LIAC. 09:29.633 --> 09:33.467 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% AND AS A FREQUENT SOCIAL MEDIA USER, I SEE ONLY SNIPPETS OF 09:33.600 --> 09:37.733 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% ARTICLES IN MY FEED AND IT'S NOT UNTIL I MAKE A POINT TO READ THE 09:37.867 --> 09:41.600 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% FULL NEWS ARTICLE I REALIZE I WAS LEFT WITH A FALSE 09:41.733 --> 09:42.867 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% IMPRESSION. SO YOU GET MOST OF YOUR NEWS 09:43.000 --> 09:44.467 position:28.55% line:84.67% size:42.9% FROM SOCIAL MEDIA? YES. 09:44.667 --> 09:47.033 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% ANYBODY ELSE GET MOST OF THEIR NEWS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA? 09:47.167 --> 09:49.367 position:34.15% line:84.67% size:31.7% OKAY. I THINK SO. 09:49.567 --> 09:54.767 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% I AM A SPRING 2018 GRADUATE FROM SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY. 09:54.900 --> 09:58.367 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% KIND OF EXPANDING ON WHAT SHE SHOULD, I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA IS 09:58.500 --> 10:02.267 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% MY MAIN SOURCE OF NEWS, BUT IT'S MORE SO OF THE INSTANT FACTOR. 10:02.400 --> 10:04.067 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% IF BREAKING NEWS OCCURS, YOU IMMEDIATELY GET THAT 10:04.200 --> 10:07.600 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% NOTIFICATION ON YOUR PHONE, INSTANTLY AND SO I THINK THAT IS 10:07.733 --> 10:11.667 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% AN ADVANTAGE AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL THE 5:00 NEWS OR 10:11.800 --> 10:16.000 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% WAITING UNTIL YOU HEAR IT ON THE RADIO OR ANY OTHER NEWS SOURCE. 10:16.200 --> 10:18.000 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% NOW, BOTH OF YOU SAY SOCIAL MEDIA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 10:18.133 --> 10:20.933 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% TWITTER, FACEBOOK, WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT? 10:21.133 --> 10:24.633 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% INSTAGRAM AND TWITTER. I HAVE THE NEWS APP FOR MY 10:24.767 --> 10:26.167 position:22.96% line:84.67% size:54.09% PHONE. GETTING IT ONLINE, NOT 10:26.300 --> 10:28.233 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% NECESSARILY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. 10:28.433 --> 10:29.533 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% YES, SIR. ANYBODY GETTING IT THROUGH A 10:29.667 --> 10:32.867 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% TRADITIONAL SOURCE? I STILL READ THE SUNDAY 10:33.000 --> 10:36.167 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% PAPER, BUT ON A WORK DAY WHEN I'M SITTING IN MY OFFICE, I HAVE 10:36.300 --> 10:38.400 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% THREE MONITORS UP AND ONE OF MY MONITORS IS MY TWITTER FEED AT 10:38.533 --> 10:41.533 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% ALL TIMES BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO LEGISLATION 10:41.667 --> 10:45.233 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% LIKE I HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO TO THE ACTUAL WEBSITE 10:45.367 --> 10:48.667 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% FOR THE ADVOCATE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. 10:48.800 --> 10:52.000 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% YOU NEED TO SEE ELIZABETH CHRIS'S TWEETS ABOUT WHAT'S 10:52.133 --> 10:56.333 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% GOING ON IN THE LEGISLATURE OR FROM THE STATE HOUSE. 10:56.467 --> 10:58.733 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% I NEED TO KNOW AND THE BEST WAY TO FIND THAT OUT IS GENERALLY 10:58.867 --> 11:01.700 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% THROUGH TWITTER. NOW, LEE, TELL US -- WHEN I 11:01.833 --> 11:04.767 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% CALLED YOU WHO YOU'RE WITH, AS WELL. 11:04.967 --> 11:07.800 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% I'M WITH GATEHOUSE MEDIA, PUBLISH SEVEN NEWSPAPERS AROUND 11:07.933 --> 11:10.433 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THE STATE OF LOUISIANA AND AS A PUBLISHER OF SEVEN NEWSPAPERS 11:10.567 --> 11:15.567 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% YOU CAN GUESS I READ, LITERALLY, SEVEN NEWSPAPERS PLUS EVERY DAY. 11:15.700 --> 11:20.033 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% BUT MY CONCERN IS IT'S THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT THEY 11:20.200 --> 11:23.033 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% MENTIONED. I THINK THOSE NOTIFICATIONS KIND 11:23.167 --> 11:26.333 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% OF DISTORT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN THE NEWS. 11:26.467 --> 11:30.167 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THEY CREATE FALSE URGENCY AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE STORIES BIGGER 11:30.300 --> 11:32.633 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% THAN THEY REALLY ARE. I HAVE ACTUALLY MADE AN EFFORT 11:32.767 --> 11:34.967 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% TO GO TURN ALL OF THE NOTIFICATIONS FOR ALL NEWS SITES 11:35.100 --> 11:38.633 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% OFF ON MY PHONE. I JUST THINK IT'S CREATING A 11:38.767 --> 11:42.567 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% DISTORTION OF FALSE REALITY THAT WE DON'T REALLY LIVE IN. 11:42.767 --> 11:45.100 position:22.96% line:84.67% size:54.09% DALE? I'M A VOLUNTEER FOR THE 11:45.233 --> 11:46.967 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% CONVENTION STAGE PROJECT. WE WERE LAUGHING HERE EARLIER, 11:47.100 --> 11:50.567 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% WE HAD TO TURN OFF OUR PHONES. WE DIDN'T KNOW -- I DIDN'T KNOW 11:50.700 --> 11:52.667 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% HOW TO DO THAT, TURN OFF MY PHONE. 11:52.800 --> 11:55.733 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% I GET A LOT OF NEWS IN THAT WAY. MAYBE THE CHANNEL 9 APP, MAYBE 11:55.867 --> 11:59.667 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% THE ADVOCATE'S APP. IT MAY BE ANY OF THOSE NEWS 11:59.800 --> 12:01.600 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% SOURCES, THEY HAVE SOME OF THOSE NEWS APPS ON THERE. 12:01.733 --> 12:04.733 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% IT COMES FROM EVERYWHERE. I READ -- I READ THE ADVOCATE 12:04.867 --> 12:07.067 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% AND I HAVE BEEN READING IT SINCE IT WAS THE MORNING ADVOCATE IN 12:07.200 --> 12:09.533 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% THE STATE TIMES. BUT I'M SORT OF -- I'M A 12:09.667 --> 12:12.333 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% CONSUMER, TOTALLY A CONSUMER. I JUST GET IT FROM ALL KINDS OF 12:12.467 --> 12:16.233 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SOURCES INCLUDING THINGS LIKE DRUDGE REPORT ONLINE, FOX NEWS, 12:16.367 --> 12:19.367 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% CNN, ALL OF THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT -- 12:19.567 --> 12:22.767 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% TELL US WHERE YOU'RE FROM. SORRY, EYE NAME IS ZOEY, I'M 12:22.900 --> 12:25.167 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% A STUDENT AT THE SCHOOL OF MASS COMMUNICATION. 12:25.300 --> 12:28.767 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE NOTIFICATIONS IN THE 12:28.900 --> 12:31.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% SOCIAL MEDIA NEWS BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS THE TIME IN THEIR 12:31.467 --> 12:37.667 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% DAY TO SIT DOWN AND READ THE NEWSPAPER ALL DAY AND GET THE 12:37.800 --> 12:40.233 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% INFORMATION IN THAT BIG OF A BLOCK OF TIME. 12:40.367 --> 12:42.900 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BUSY LIVES, BUT STILL WANT TO BE UP TO DATE, 12:43.033 --> 12:46.100 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE GET THE CONTEXT FOR 12:46.233 --> 12:49.967 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE READING, WHETHER IT BE BY 12:50.100 --> 12:54.833 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% LISTENING TO PUBLIC RADIO OR READING NEWSLETTERS OR SNIPPETS 12:54.967 --> 13:00.367 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% OF NEWS THAT GIVE MORE CONTEXT TO JUST THE HEADLINES. 13:00.567 --> 13:03.733 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% SO EVERYBODY'S SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WHERE THEY GET THE NEWS 13:03.867 --> 13:07.333 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% FROM, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF THE SECOND PART OF 13:07.467 --> 13:10.267 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THE QUESTION WHICH WAS DO YOU FIND IT BELIEVABLE, DO YOU FIND 13:10.400 --> 13:12.700 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% IT CREDIBLE? DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT 13:12.833 --> 13:15.067 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% THAT AS WELL? MARSHALL OR MADDIE? 13:15.267 --> 13:18.133 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% I'M WITH LIAC. I GET MY NEWS FROM THE APPLE 13:18.267 --> 13:22.533 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% NEWS APP THAT'S ON MY PHONE AND IT WILL FEATURE SEVERAL 13:22.667 --> 13:26.967 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% DIFFERENT NATIONAL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS AND JUST FROM 13:27.100 --> 13:31.033 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% CLICKING ON MAYBE ONE ARTICLE THAT I FIND WITH AN INTERESTING 13:31.167 --> 13:34.000 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% TITLE, MY FIRST IMPRESSION ISN'T TO BELIEVE THE FIRST THING THAT 13:34.133 --> 13:38.433 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% I SEE OR THE FIRST ARTICLE. I LIKE TO FACT CHECK EVERYTHING 13:38.567 --> 13:42.633 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% THAT I READ WITH MAYBE THREE OR FOUR OTHER ARTICLES TO MAKE SURE 13:42.767 --> 13:46.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THAT WHAT I'M READING FROM ONE NEWS ORGANIZATION ISN'T EITHER 13:46.733 --> 13:48.900 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% BIASED OR GIVING ME A FALSE INFORMATION. 13:49.100 --> 13:51.433 position:21.09% line:84.67% size:57.81% VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. MARSHALL? 13:51.633 --> 13:53.767 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% I'M MARSHALL MILLS WITH THE LOUISIANA FAMILY FORUM. 13:53.900 --> 13:58.800 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% AND I WOULD SAY MOST OFTEN I WATCH NEWS IN THE MORNING WHEN I 13:58.933 --> 14:00.700 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% WAKE UP, OFF OF THE TELEVISION. OCCASIONALLY I LISTEN TO THE 14:00.833 --> 14:03.900 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% RADIO AND I SAY THAT'S WHAT I TRUST MOST. 14:04.033 --> 14:07.800 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE TALK SHOW HOSTS, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO 14:07.933 --> 14:13.967 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% BRING UP FACTS AND STATISTICS, ACTUALLY BRING UP REAL NEWS AND 14:14.100 --> 14:16.467 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% REALLY IMPACT THAT, DISCUSS IT WITH VARIOUS PEOPLE AND MAKE 14:16.600 --> 14:21.100 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SURE IT'S REALLY THE MOST TRUE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE. 14:21.300 --> 14:23.633 position:35.08% line:84.67% size:29.84% OKAY. ELIZABETH? 14:23.833 --> 14:27.567 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% I'M ELIZABETH WEST WITH THE GAZETTE AND I DEFINITELY GET MY 14:27.700 --> 14:31.367 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% NEWS FROM THE A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS AND IT'S IMPORTANT 14:31.500 --> 14:35.033 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% FOR US, WORKING FOR A SMALLTOWN NEWSPAPER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE 14:35.167 --> 14:37.900 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% SUCH A SMALL STAFF THAT SOMETIMES, WE JUST DON'T HEAR 14:38.033 --> 14:40.033 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON SO WHEN WE GET THOSE 14:40.200 --> 14:44.233 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% NOTIFICATIONS ON OUR PHONES, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CHECK INTO IT AND 14:44.367 --> 14:46.867 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS LOCAL, SOMETHING THAT OUR PEOPLE NEED 14:47.000 --> 14:49.933 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% TO READ ABOUT AND WE'VE NOTIFIED ABOUT IT AS WELL AND WE CAN PUT 14:50.067 --> 14:52.267 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% A STORY IN OUR NEWSPAPER FOR THEM. 14:52.467 --> 14:57.667 position:22.02% line:84.67% size:55.95% VERY GOOD. I'M LIKE ELIZABETH. 14:57.800 --> 15:01.767 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% YOU HAVE TO READ -- YOU HAVE TO WATCH TELEVISION, READ 15:01.900 --> 15:05.767 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% NEWSPAPERS, READ WHAT'S COMING OVER SOCIAL MEDIA, BECAUSE AS A 15:05.900 --> 15:10.433 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% LOCAL NEWSPAPER EDITOR, YOU HAVE TO FIND STUFF THAT IS LOCAL AND 15:10.567 --> 15:13.800 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU GO ON THESE WEBSITES, NOT ALL OF THE 15:13.933 --> 15:18.833 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% NEWS IS REAL NEWS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO START CHECKING ON IT AND 15:18.967 --> 15:26.500 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% MAKING SURE WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S NOT. 15:26.700 --> 15:29.967 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% TELL US WHO YOU ARE. I'M WITH LSU SCHOOL OF MASS 15:30.100 --> 15:35.567 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% COMMUNICATION AND I MOSTLY GET MY NEWS THROUGH APPLICATIONS IN 15:35.700 --> 15:40.433 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% MY PHONE OR I GO ONLINE. WHAT DO YOU READ ON YOUR 15:40.567 --> 15:42.767 position:22.02% line:84.67% size:55.95% PHONE? WHAT NEWS ORGANIZATION? 15:42.967 --> 15:45.800 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% ALL OF THE LOUISIANA NEWSPAPERS AND MOSTLY READ THE 15:45.933 --> 15:51.033 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% ADVOCATE AND THE NEW ORLEANS TIMES PICAYUNE AND I REALLY 15:51.167 --> 15:56.300 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% TRUST THESE MEDIAS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PART OF THE NEWS BUREAU AND 15:56.433 --> 15:59.233 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% I'VE SEEN THE WORK OF THE JOURNALISTS, I SEE HOW THEY'RE 15:59.367 --> 16:02.967 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% COVERING THE COMMUNITIES AND I'VE SEEN THE PROCESS AND HOW 16:03.100 --> 16:07.967 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THE NEWS SO I DEVELOPED A TRUST IN 16:08.100 --> 16:10.233 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% JOURNALISM THIS WAY SO I CAN SAY THAT EVERYTHING THAT I READ FROM 16:10.367 --> 16:14.800 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% LOCAL NEWSPAPERS IS SOMETHING THAT I DO HAVE TO FACT CHECK, OF 16:14.933 --> 16:17.367 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% COURSE, WITH OTHER LOUISIANA PUBLICATIONS, BUT I CAN SAY THAT 16:17.500 --> 16:21.167 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% I HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TRUST IN LOCAL JOURNALISM. 16:21.367 --> 16:22.233 position:36.01% line:84.67% size:27.98% GREAT. RICHARD? 16:22.433 --> 16:24.933 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% RICHARD FLICKER, I'M A PSYCHOLOGIST AND I'M A FACULTY 16:25.067 --> 16:28.467 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% AT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY. I GET MY SOURCES FROM 16:28.600 --> 16:31.800 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% EVERYWHERE, NEWSPAPERS, TELEVISION, LOCAL AND NATIONAL 16:31.933 --> 16:36.567 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% NEWS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. I TRUST THE NATIONAL AND LOCAL 16:36.700 --> 16:40.867 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% NEWS AND THE NEWSPAPERS FAR MORE THAN I TRUST SOCIAL MEDIA. 16:41.000 --> 16:45.500 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% DO THEY MAKE MISTAKES? ARE THERE INACCURACIES IN THE 16:45.633 --> 16:48.867 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCES? ABSOLUTELY, HAVING RUN FOR 16:49.000 --> 16:53.600 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% POLITICAL OFFICE AND BEEN MISQUOTED DRASTICALLY, I KNOW 16:53.733 --> 16:57.933 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% THERE ARE ERRORS. BUT I TRUST THE NEWS, THE 16:58.067 --> 17:01.233 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCES. I KNOW HOW TO DISTINGUISH 17:01.367 --> 17:05.467 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% BETWEEN A JOURNALIST AND A COMMENTATOR WHERE MOST OF THE 17:05.600 --> 17:09.467 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% COMMENTATORS ARE THERE TO AGITATE AND STIR UP THE AUDIENCE 17:09.600 --> 17:14.667 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% AND JOURNALISTS HOPEFULLY ARE TRYING TO REPORT ACCURATE NEWS 17:14.800 --> 17:16.433 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL SOURCES. 17:16.567 --> 17:20.967 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% IF YOU'RE ONLY GETTING IT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA, TALK RADIO OR ANY 17:21.100 --> 17:24.300 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% ONE SOURCE I THINK YOU'RE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE. 17:24.500 --> 17:26.900 position:20.16% line:84.67% size:59.68% A BALANCED DIET, RIGHT? EXACTLY. 17:27.133 --> 17:29.000 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% HAS ANYONE ENCOUNTERED WHAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER FAKE NEWS OR 17:29.133 --> 17:33.867 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% BEEN TAKEN IN BY FAKE NEWS IN SOME WAY? 17:34.000 --> 17:36.800 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% IS THAT SOMETHING -- YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD DALE? 17:37.000 --> 17:38.900 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% ESPECIALLY ON FACEBOOK. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT 17:39.033 --> 17:41.333 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% YOU SEE. I'VE CLICKED ON A FEW THINGS AND 17:41.467 --> 17:44.867 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% A FRIEND WILL CLICK BACK AND SAY CHECK THIS OUT, THIS IS NOT 17:45.000 --> 17:47.300 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% RIGHT AND I'VE DONE THE SAME THING WITH SOME OF MY FRIENDS. 17:47.433 --> 17:49.333 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% IT DOES HAPPEN. I GET MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 17:49.467 --> 17:52.033 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% BIASED NEWS THAN THE FAKE NEWS. IT'S NOT USUALLY THE FACTS IT'S 17:52.167 --> 17:56.600 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% HOW YOU PACKAGE IT AND WHAT AGENDA ARE YOU TRYING TO PORTRAY 17:56.733 --> 18:00.400 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% WHEN YOU WRITE THE NEWS? THAT'S WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED 18:00.533 --> 18:02.233 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% ABOUT SOMEONE SOMETHING THAT'S FLAT WRONG. 18:02.367 --> 18:05.600 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% YOU CAN CHECK THAT STUFF. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 18:05.733 --> 18:12.633 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% ECHO CHAMBER THAT THESE NEWS AGGREGATORS AND FACEBOOK CREATE 18:12.767 --> 18:16.100 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE READING AND THEY FEED YOU 18:16.233 --> 18:21.600 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% MORE OF THAT AND YOU END UP READING ONE SIDE, ONE DIRECTION 18:21.733 --> 18:24.267 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% AND THE REST OF IT OUTSIDE, IT GETS -- IT GETS PUSHED OUT. 18:24.400 --> 18:27.567 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% A GREAT EXAMPLE IS MYSELF. I READ A COUPLE OF ARTICLES ON A 18:27.700 --> 18:30.933 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% NEWS AGGREGATION APP THAT I USE ABOUT THE ROYAL WEDDING AND 18:31.067 --> 18:33.700 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SUDDENLY, I'M GETTING BOMBARDED ABOUT STORIES ABOUT THE ROYAL 18:33.833 --> 18:35.933 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% WEDDING. I REALLY WASN'T THAT INTERESTED, 18:36.067 --> 18:41.433 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% BUT THE LOGARITHM DECIDED I WAS AND IT FED ME ALL DAY. 18:41.633 --> 18:45.200 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% YOUR ADVICE WOULD BE GET OFF THOSE AGGREGATORS, GET OFF 18:45.333 --> 18:47.967 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% SOCIAL MEDIA. GO TO THE PICAYUNE APP. 18:48.100 --> 18:49.333 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% ABSOLUTELY. ANYBODY ELSE ENCOUNTER FAKE 18:49.467 --> 18:50.667 position:39.74% line:84.67% size:20.52% NEWS? MATT? 18:50.867 --> 18:56.100 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% MATT BAILEY, I LIVE IN NEW ORLEANS, I'M A NATIVE OF GINA, 18:56.233 --> 18:58.233 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% LOUISIANA. JUST FOLLOWING UP, YOU KNOW, 18:58.367 --> 19:02.400 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% WITH THE APPS THAT GIVE YOU MORE OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SHOWN AN 19:02.533 --> 19:07.767 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% INTEREST IN, AND THINKING ABOUT LOCAL NEWS AND LOOKING AT THOSE 19:07.900 --> 19:11.300 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% STATS THAT HALF OF PEOPLE GET THEIR NEWS FROM TELEVISION AND 19:11.433 --> 19:16.200 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% WE WATCH TELEVISION ORIGINS AND IT SEEMS THAT IN TERMS OF 19:16.333 --> 19:20.967 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% KEEPING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, THE TELEVISION NEWS NEEDS TO KEEP 19:21.100 --> 19:23.800 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% YOUR ATTENTION AND IT SEEMS LIKE HOW THEY'VE LEARNED TO DO THAT 19:23.933 --> 19:26.767 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% IS MY SHOWING ALL THE SHOOTINGS THAT HAPPENED, ALL THE MAJOR CAR 19:26.900 --> 19:29.567 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% WRECKS, ANYTHING THAT HAS A NICE VISUAL IS WHAT YOU SEE, AND THEN 19:29.700 --> 19:34.267 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% THEY MAY GIVE ONLY A FEW MINUTES TO IMPORTANT BUSINESS HAPPENING 19:34.400 --> 19:36.400 position:24.82% line:84.67% size:50.35% AT THE CAPITOL. YEAH, YEAH. 19:36.533 --> 19:37.833 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR 19:37.967 --> 19:40.233 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% THIS PORTION OF OUR SHOW. WHEN WE RETURN WE'LL BE JOINED 19:40.400 --> 19:44.933 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% BY A PANEL OF EXPERTS TO FURTHER DISCUSS NEWS ABOUT THE NEWS. 19:45.067 --> 19:53.700 position:37.88% line:84.67% size:24.25% ♪♪ ♪♪ 19:53.900 --> 19:55.133 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% WELCOME BACK TO "LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE." 19:55.267 --> 19:57.633 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% TONIGHT, WE'RE DISCUSSING THE NEWS MEDIA AND JOINING US NOW IS 19:57.767 --> 20:03.000 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS. SHE CAME TO THE SCHOOL OF MASS 20:03.133 --> 20:06.500 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% COMMUNICATION IN 2015 AFTER NEARLY 40 YEARS AS A REPORTER 20:06.633 --> 20:09.100 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% AND EDITOR FIRST FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AND LATER FOR THE 20:09.233 --> 20:12.133 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% NEW YORK TIMES. HE TEACHES A SPECIAL CLASS ON 20:12.267 --> 20:15.867 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% MEDIA MANIPULATION AND FAKE NEWS. 20:16.000 --> 20:19.333 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% HE HAS WORKED WITH THE TIMES PICAYUNE NEWSPAPER IN NEW 20:19.467 --> 20:22.433 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% ORLEANS SINCE 1987, FIRST AS A REPORTER, AND NOW AS AN 20:22.567 --> 20:27.000 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% EDITORIAL WRITER AND COLUMNIST FOR NOLA.COM. 20:27.133 --> 20:32.033 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% HE WAS AWARDED A PULITZER PRIZE FOR COVERAGE OF HURRICANE 20:32.167 --> 20:33.667 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% KATRINA. PETER HAS BEEN A NEWSPAPER 20:33.800 --> 20:35.600 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% EDITOR IN LOUISIANA FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES. 20:35.733 --> 20:39.567 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% HE JOINED THE ADVOCATE IN 2013 AND HELPED EXPAND ITS REACH IN 20:39.700 --> 20:43.000 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% LOUISIANA BY LAUNCHING SEPARATE NEWSPAPERS, SERVING NEW ORLEANS 20:43.133 --> 20:48.167 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% AND ACADIANA AS WELL AS MORE THAN A DOZEN WEEKLY TITLES AND 20:48.300 --> 20:50.167 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% AN LSU PROFESSOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA 20:50.300 --> 20:53.567 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% ANALYSIS AND CREATION LAB. PORTER HAS FOCUSED ON DIGITAL 20:53.700 --> 20:57.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% MEDIA SINCE 1995 WHEN HE BUILT HIS FIRST COMMERCIAL WEBSITE. 20:57.467 --> 21:01.133 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% HIS RESEARCH FOCUSESSEN EMERGING MEDIA AND POWER. 21:01.267 --> 21:06.300 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% SO BEFORE WE GO TO OUR AUDIENCE QUESTIONS, IF EACH OF OUR 21:06.433 --> 21:08.100 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% PANELISTS WOULD TELL US FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE SHOULD THE 21:08.233 --> 21:13.333 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% PUBLIC TRUST THE NEWS MEDIA? I WOULD SAY GENERALLY, YES. 21:13.467 --> 21:16.167 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% THEY SHOULD TRUST THE NEWS MEDIA, BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON 21:16.300 --> 21:19.767 position:22.96% line:84.67% size:54.09% THE DETAILS. WHAT NEWS MEDIA? 21:19.900 --> 21:23.567 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF CABLE TV. I'M AFRAID THAT CABLE TV IS THE 21:23.700 --> 21:25.633 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% ROOT OF A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS TODAY. 21:25.767 --> 21:30.133 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% I'M NOT A FAN OF SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH I THINK IS AS A NEWS MEDIA 21:30.267 --> 21:35.067 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% SOURCE IS ALSO A DEFICIENT SOURCE OF INFORMATION. 21:35.200 --> 21:40.700 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% I THINK BOTH CAN DO GOOD WORK AND CAN DO -- AND PROVIDE GOOD 21:40.833 --> 21:44.700 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% SERVICES, BUT IN TERMS OF TRUSTWORTHY FACTUAL NEWS 21:44.833 --> 21:48.833 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% INFORMATION AND CONTEXT, THEY COME UP SHORT. 21:49.033 --> 21:51.267 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% I THINK GENERALLY YOU SHOULD TRUST THE PROCESS. 21:51.400 --> 21:55.033 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% YOU SHOULD TRUST THOSE REPORTERS WHO HAVE EDITORS TO REPORT TO. 21:55.167 --> 21:58.367 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% YOU SHOULD TRUST THOSE PUBLICATIONS THAT ARE HONEST 21:58.500 --> 22:03.267 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% ABOUT THE ERRORS THEY'VE MADE. YOU SHOULD TRUST THOSE SOURCES 22:03.400 --> 22:06.233 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% THAT ACTUALLY ARE OPEN ABOUT WHO THEIR SOURCES ARE AND I THINK 22:06.367 --> 22:10.067 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% WHEN YOU PUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER THEN YOU TEND TO HAVE A 22:10.200 --> 22:16.567 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MORE TRUSTWORTHY PRODUCT THAN SOURCES THAT ARE MYSTERIOUS, 22:16.700 --> 22:18.467 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION 22:18.600 --> 22:21.100 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% FROM. YOU CAN'T EVER EXPECT THEM TO 22:21.233 --> 22:23.300 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING THEY'VE DONE WRONG. 22:23.433 --> 22:28.167 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SO I THINK WHAT YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO TRUST IS THE PROCESS. 22:28.300 --> 22:31.067 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% OKAY, I AM QUOTING THIS PERSON ACCURATELY. 22:31.200 --> 22:33.500 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% IF I MISREPRESENT THEM, I CORRECT IT. 22:33.633 --> 22:36.667 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% I AM TELLING YOU WHO MY SOURCES WERE. 22:36.800 --> 22:38.300 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% I HAVE EDITORS WHO ARE GOING TO CHECK ME. 22:38.433 --> 22:41.700 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% I HAVE COPY EDITORS WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE MY THINGS ARE 22:41.833 --> 22:44.167 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% CORRECT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU OUGHT TO 22:44.300 --> 22:46.200 position:21.09% line:84.67% size:57.81% TRUST. I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A 22:46.333 --> 22:51.733 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% BETTER APPRECIATION THAN PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THE ACCURACY OF 22:51.867 --> 22:55.067 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% MEDIA IS TIERED AND THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT OUGHT TO BE 22:55.200 --> 22:58.867 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN OTHERS. AND OUR AIM AT THE ADVOCATE IS 22:59.000 --> 23:02.133 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% TO BE AT THE TOP OF THAT PYRAMID AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCES THAT 23:02.267 --> 23:04.533 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% TELL US THAT PEOPLE SEE US THAT WAY. 23:04.667 --> 23:08.633 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CALL UP, THEY SEND US A NOTE OR MY COUSIN SAW 23:08.767 --> 23:14.033 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% ON THE INTERNET THAT MARTIANS LANDED ON THE HEWIE LONG BRIDGE 23:14.167 --> 23:16.700 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE AND IT'S ANNOYING TO TAKE 23:16.833 --> 23:20.300 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% THOSE INQUIRIES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S REASSURING BECAUSE IT 23:20.433 --> 23:26.000 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% TELLS ME THAT PEOPLE HAVE TRUST IN THE ADVOCATE AND THAT THEY 23:26.133 --> 23:28.267 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS OF MEDIA THAT MIGHT OR 23:28.400 --> 23:33.900 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% MIGHT NOT BE RELIABLE AND THEY WANT A HIGHER LEVEL MEDIA, A 23:34.067 --> 23:37.900 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MORE ACCURATE, RESPONSIBLE, ESTABLISHED MEDIA TO TELL THEM 23:38.033 --> 23:40.400 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% WHETHER SOMETHING IS OR ISN'T TRUE AT CRITICAL MOMENTS AND 23:40.533 --> 23:43.733 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% WHAT COULD BE MORE CRITICAL THAN HAVING MARTIANS ON THE HEWIE 23:43.867 --> 23:47.767 position:27.62% line:84.67% size:44.76% LONG BRIDGE? DR. PORTER. 23:47.900 --> 23:50.967 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% SO CERTAINLY YOU SHOULD TRUST CERTAIN TYPES OF MEDIA, BUT I 23:51.100 --> 23:54.400 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IN TODAY'S NEWS MEDIA ENVIRONMENT, 23:54.533 --> 23:58.933 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% MOST OF OUR NEWS IS BEING ACCESSED THROUGH NEWSFEEDS AND 23:59.067 --> 24:06.567 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MOST OF THOSE NEWSFEEDS ARE CURATED BY ALGORITHMS AND WHAT 24:06.700 --> 24:10.100 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% WE KNOW FROM PAST RESEARCH IS THAT PEOPLE TEND TO CLICK ON 24:10.233 --> 24:13.800 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% NEGATIVE STUFF. AND THROUGH A NEWS FEED ON A 24:13.933 --> 24:17.667 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU ARE GETTING SORT OF A BIASED VIEW OF THE 24:17.800 --> 24:21.667 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% NEWS AND MORE OF A NEGATIVE VIEW THAN HOW THINGS REALLY ARE. 24:21.867 --> 24:25.367 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR STUDIO 24:25.500 --> 24:28.067 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% AUDIENCE NOW FOR QUESTIONS TO THE PANELISTS AND WE'RE GOING TO 24:28.200 --> 24:30.633 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% START FIRST WITH MADELEINE WHO DID NOT GET A QUESTION IN THE 24:30.767 --> 24:34.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% FIRST PART OF OUR SHOW, BUT IF YOU'LL TELL US YOUR FULL NAME 24:34.467 --> 24:38.300 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% AND YOUR AFFILIATION, PLEASE. I'M MADELEINE WITH LIAC. 24:38.433 --> 24:41.700 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% SO I THINK BEFORE WE CAN REALLY FIND A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM WE 24:41.833 --> 24:43.933 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHERE IT'S STEMMING FROM AND THE ROOT CAUSE 24:44.067 --> 24:47.067 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% OF IT. SO DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IT'S 24:47.200 --> 24:51.500 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% CORPORATIONS WHO ARE PERPETUATING A SYSTEM IN WHICH 24:51.633 --> 24:55.633 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% JUSTINS -- JOURNALISTS ARE EXPECTED TO LIE TO FIT A 24:55.767 --> 24:58.800 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% NARRATIVE OR IS IT THOSE JOURNALISTS THAT ARE CAUSING IT 24:58.933 --> 25:02.000 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% THEMSELVES AND HOW DO WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE? 25:02.200 --> 25:10.100 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% WHAT'S DANGEROUS IS SYSTEMS IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE REWARDED 25:10.233 --> 25:13.667 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% FINANCIALLY FOR THE AMOUNT OF MEDIA, THE AMOUNT OF DIGITAL 25:13.833 --> 25:17.700 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% TRAFFIC THEY GET. I MEAN, TO ME THAT'S A SYSTEM 25:17.833 --> 25:20.600 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% FOR COMPROMISING WHAT JOURNALISTS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO 25:20.733 --> 25:25.267 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS IF YOU -- IF YOU OPERATED A NEWS 25:25.400 --> 25:27.600 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% SITE AND YOU WANTED TO GET MORE TRAFFIC, YOU WOULD GET MORE 25:27.733 --> 25:32.167 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% TRAFFIC BY OPERATING A PORN SITE SO IF PEOPLE WERE INCENTIVIZED 25:32.300 --> 25:37.400 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% TO BEHAVE THAT WAY, EVENTUALLY EVERYTHING WOULD BECOME A PORN 25:37.533 --> 25:40.067 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% SITE. SO I THINK IT'S A DANGEROUS -- I 25:40.200 --> 25:43.200 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% THINK IT'S A DANGEROUS THING TO REWARD PEOPLE THAT WAY. 25:43.333 --> 25:49.000 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% AND ALSO AS A BUSINESS MODEL, IT HASN'T HISTORICALLY WORKED 25:49.133 --> 25:54.133 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF AD REVENUE THAT YOU GET FOR THOSE CLICKS -- 25:54.267 --> 25:57.567 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% DIGITAL AD RATES ARE VERY LOW SO YOU MAY GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC, 25:57.700 --> 25:59.933 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% BUT YOU DON'T REALLY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. 26:00.133 --> 26:02.900 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK I HEAR YOU ASKING ARE 26:03.033 --> 26:06.700 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% PEOPLE BEING ENCOURAGED TO BE FALSE AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S 26:06.833 --> 26:08.967 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% THE CASE. I THINK AS PETER SAID THAT THERE 26:09.100 --> 26:14.533 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% IS A PERVERSE MOTIVATION THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO A SYSTEM WHERE 26:14.667 --> 26:20.567 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% YOU WANT THE MOST ATTENTION AND IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE 26:20.733 --> 26:21.867 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% TO THE NUMBER OF CLICKS YOU COULD GET. 26:22.000 --> 26:23.800 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% IT COULD COME FROM THE DESIRE TO BE FIRST. 26:23.933 --> 26:28.733 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% IT COULD COME FROM A DESIRE -- I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT MY STORY 26:28.867 --> 26:32.433 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% IS OUT THERE BEFORE MY COMPETITOR'S STORY. 26:32.567 --> 26:37.467 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% THAT COULD PRODUCE SLOPPINESS. THAT COULD PRODUCE CARELESSNESS. 26:37.600 --> 26:41.767 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% I DO THINK THERE ARE THINGS IN THE BUSINESS MODEL WHETHER IT'S 26:41.900 --> 26:47.333 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% INTERNET OR MORE TRADITIONAL MEDIA THAT RESPONSIBLE 26:47.467 --> 26:50.433 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% JOURNALISTS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE OKAY THIS IS A 26:50.567 --> 26:54.300 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% WEAK SPOT. THIS IS A VULNERABILITY AND I 26:54.467 --> 26:57.767 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO SUCCUMB TO IT, BUT WITH THE 26:57.900 --> 27:02.467 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% EXCEPTION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DELIBERATELY SETTING OUT TO BE 27:02.600 --> 27:05.867 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% FALSE AND TO BE FRAUDULENT, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY IN ANY 27:06.000 --> 27:09.333 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH COULD REPORT 27:09.467 --> 27:12.600 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% OF ANYBODY WHO WAS DELIBERATELY TRYING TO PUT STUFF OUT TO THE 27:12.733 --> 27:14.967 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% PUBLIC THAT THEY KNEW TO BE FALSE. 27:15.167 --> 27:20.933 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA 27:21.067 --> 27:22.733 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% PER SE, ALTHOUGH I DO SEE SOME OF IT IN CABLE. 27:22.867 --> 27:30.033 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% I THINK CABLE DOES ENCOURAGE A TILTING AGAINST A PARTICULAR 27:30.167 --> 27:33.500 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% POINT OF VIEW OR ADVOCATING A PARTICULAR POINT OF VIEW. 27:33.633 --> 27:36.833 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% AND I THINK IT PLAYS OUT ON THEIR WEBSITES, AS WELL. 27:36.967 --> 27:42.100 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% I DO THINK WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AS JARVIS ALLUDED TO, THERE ARE 27:42.233 --> 27:45.600 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% PEOPLE WHO PUBLISH FAKE NEWS, GENERATE FAKE NEWS, WRITE FAKE 27:45.733 --> 27:48.767 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% NEWS, DREAM UP FAKE NEWS FOR PROFIT. 27:48.900 --> 27:53.500 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE WORLD. THERE IS FOR-PROFIT FAKERY OUT 27:53.633 --> 28:00.467 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THERE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE SOCIAL PLATFORMS 28:00.633 --> 28:06.133 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% AND SOMETIMES CABLE'S SPIN I THINK CONTRIBUTE TO THIS LACK OF 28:06.267 --> 28:11.000 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% TRUST IN THE MEDIA. I WOULD SAY FOR YEARS, SOCIAL 28:11.133 --> 28:14.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% MEDIA PLATFORMS WERE DESIGNED TO FEED YOU MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE 28:14.733 --> 28:18.633 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% INTERACTING WITH, WITH NO REGARD TO WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT. 28:18.767 --> 28:22.800 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% SO THOSE CORPORATIONS CERTAINLY HAVE A FAULT IN THE SYSTEM THAT 28:22.933 --> 28:27.100 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% WE HAVE NOW AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT AT THIS POINT. 28:27.300 --> 28:32.533 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% I WANT TO BRING YOU IN. YOU DID NOT ASK A QUESTION 28:32.667 --> 28:34.600 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% EARLIER, BUT IF YOU'LL TELL US YOUR NAME. 28:34.833 --> 28:38.767 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% I'M DREW WHITE. I'M WITH THE LSU STATE HOUSE 28:38.900 --> 28:41.367 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% BUREAU AT THE CAPITOL. WE WORK AS A WIRE SERVICE TO ALL 28:41.500 --> 28:44.833 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% THE LOCAL PAPERS IN LOUISIANA. THEY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN 28:44.967 --> 28:47.933 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% GO UP AND REPORT AT THE CAPITOL SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WRITE 28:48.067 --> 28:50.667 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% STORIES AND SEND THEM OUT TO THE LOCAL PAPERS IN THE STATE. 28:50.867 --> 28:54.133 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% SO WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION FOR THE PANELISTS? 28:54.333 --> 28:58.567 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% MY QUESTION WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THE AGE OF THE TRUMP 28:58.700 --> 29:04.333 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% PRESIDENCY, HOW HAS TRUMP DIFFERED FROM FORMER POLITICIANS 29:04.467 --> 29:08.567 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, EARLY LONG WHEN IT COMES TO ATTACKING THE 29:08.700 --> 29:11.567 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% PRESS? LIKE I KNOW HEWIE AND EARL 29:11.700 --> 29:15.233 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% ATTACKED THE TIMES PICAYUNE WAY BACK IN THE DAY. 29:15.367 --> 29:19.800 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% I HE TEAMED TO BE A PRETTY VOCAL CRITIC OF THE TIMES PICAYUNE 29:19.933 --> 29:23.633 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% THEN, BUT JUST HOW HAVE THINGS CHANGED AND HOW IS TRUMP 29:23.767 --> 29:25.100 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% DIFFERENT? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT 29:25.233 --> 29:27.133 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 29:27.267 --> 29:32.833 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% I WOULD SAY THERE'S -- THERE'S A LOT OF ALARM ABOUT WHAT TRUMP IS 29:32.967 --> 29:35.833 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% DOING AND HE'S CERTAINLY EFFECTIVELY USING NEW TECHNIQUES 29:35.967 --> 29:39.467 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% TO DO IT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT AS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM 29:39.600 --> 29:44.500 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% WHAT RICHARD NIXON DID WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND NOT FUNDAMENTALLY 29:44.633 --> 29:48.867 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% DIFFERENT FROM WHAT, YOU KNOW -- FROM WHAT THE LONGS DID AND, YOU 29:49.000 --> 29:56.233 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% KNOW -- AND THE TRUTH IS THAT EVENTUALLY, RICHARD NIXON -- IN 29:56.367 --> 30:01.933 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% A WAY THE MEDIA BEAT RICHARD NIXON AND IN A WAY RICHARD NIXON 30:02.067 --> 30:08.767 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% EXPLODED HIMSELF BY -- DINT OF HIS CONTEMPT FOR THAT. 30:08.900 --> 30:12.033 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% I'M LESS WORRIED THAN PEOPLE GENERALLY ARE IN THE MEDIA ABOUT 30:12.167 --> 30:16.333 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS DOING. I WOULD TAKE A SLIGHTLY 30:16.467 --> 30:20.100 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% DIFFERENT TACK. I THINK ALL OF THIS THAT YOU'RE 30:20.233 --> 30:24.267 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S THE LONGS, TRUMP OR NIXON TO A 30:24.400 --> 30:29.033 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% LESSER DEGREE, IT'S A -- IT'S A WAVE OF POPULISM AND WE'VE HAD 30:29.167 --> 30:34.233 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% THIS IN THE COUNTRY A LOT. THERE ARE -- YOU CAN ARGUE THAT 30:34.367 --> 30:39.300 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% BERNIE SANDERS HIMSELF WAS A DIFFERENT FORM OF POPULISM. 30:39.433 --> 30:43.333 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTING OR ADVANTAGEOUS TO 30:43.467 --> 30:46.700 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% TILT AGAINST ESTABLISHMENT FOLKS AND ESTABLISHMENT INSTITUTIONS 30:46.833 --> 30:50.667 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% LIKE THE MEDIA. I THINK WHAT IS DANGEROUS WITH 30:50.800 --> 30:56.367 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% TRUMP IS THAT HE HAS TAKEN ON A LEVEL OF CRITICISM ABOUT FIRST 30:56.500 --> 31:00.733 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% AMENDMENT FREEDOMS, ABOUT PRESS FREEDOMS, ABOUT THE RIGHT FOR 31:00.867 --> 31:07.833 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% REPORTERS TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND THAT -- AND THAT KIND OF 31:07.967 --> 31:13.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% ANTAGONISM OR OPPOSITION TO THE PRESS, THE AIDES REFER TO THE 31:13.733 --> 31:17.667 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% PRESS AS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE, IS VERY DANGEROUS. 31:17.867 --> 31:21.467 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% AND JUST TODAY AT AN EPA EVENT WITH SCOTT PRUITT, THE 31:21.600 --> 31:27.100 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% A.P. AND CNN WERE BARRED ENTRY. THAT IS MORE PROBLEMATIC I THINK 31:27.233 --> 31:32.400 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% THAN ANY FAKE NEWS PROCLAMATION COMING FROM THE PRESIDENT, WHEN 31:32.533 --> 31:34.733 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% YOU HAVE REPORTERS TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB, TRYING TO GET 31:34.867 --> 31:38.267 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE, AND THERE ARE ARMED SECURITY SAYING 31:38.400 --> 31:41.633 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THAT THEY CANNOT COME TO HEAR WHAT A CABINET OFFICIAL HAS TO 31:41.767 --> 31:46.000 position:22.96% line:84.67% size:54.09% SAY. SO I ALSO THINK TRUMP IS 31:46.133 --> 31:48.867 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% UNIQUE IN HOW HE HAS USED SOCIAL MEDIA. 31:49.000 --> 31:51.267 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% IT'S DIFFERENT THAN ANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE THAT 31:51.400 --> 31:54.700 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. HE'S THE FIRST CANDIDATE TO USE 31:54.867 --> 32:01.000 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% IT AS AN ATTACK MECHANISM AND SO THAT REALLY PLAYS INTO HOW 32:01.133 --> 32:05.933 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% SOCIAL MEDIA WORKS AND THE FACT THAT NEGATIVE INFORMATION IS 32:06.067 --> 32:08.400 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% PRIORITIZED. SO IT'S AN EFFECTIVE THING THAT 32:08.533 --> 32:13.567 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% HE'S BEEN DOING WITH IT. DALE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A 32:13.700 --> 32:15.867 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% QUESTION? YES, I CAN FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT 32:16.000 --> 32:19.100 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% Y'ALL ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT. DON'T YOU THINK THE FAKE NEWS 32:19.233 --> 32:23.367 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% MONIKER THAT TRUMP HAS PUT ON IT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY TRACTION 32:23.500 --> 32:26.833 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% UNLESS THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE 32:27.000 --> 32:29.400 position:20.16% line:84.67% size:59.68% HIM? THAT DO THINK THERE IS FAKE 32:29.533 --> 32:31.400 position:22.96% line:84.67% size:54.09% NEWS? FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE 32:31.533 --> 32:32.967 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% THINGS -- ONE OF THE GUYS FROM LSU IN THE CLIP BEFORE THE SHOW 32:33.100 --> 32:39.167 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% HERE TODAY SAID THAT SINCE THE 1970s AND 1980s, REPUBLICANS 32:39.300 --> 32:42.300 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE HAVE GROWN LESS AND LESS ENCOURAGED 32:42.433 --> 32:46.233 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% BY WHAT THEY SEE IN THE PRESS AND WE SEE THE RISE OF THINGS 32:46.367 --> 32:49.633 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% LIKE DRUDGE REPORT AND RUSH LIMBAUGH. 32:49.767 --> 32:51.800 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% DOESN'T THAT SUGGEST THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT, THE NORMAL MEDIA 32:51.933 --> 32:55.933 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% IS LOSING SOME CREDIBILITY WITH AMERICANS? 32:56.133 --> 32:59.600 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% I THINK THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT WOULD BE TO 32:59.733 --> 33:03.867 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% REFERENCE A BOOK BY JOSHUA COOPER RAMO CALLED THE SEVENTH 33:04.000 --> 33:05.867 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% SENSE. AND HE MAKES AN ARGUMENT THAT 33:06.000 --> 33:10.000 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% ALL OF OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE LOSING CREDIBILITY, WHETHER IT'S 33:10.133 --> 33:15.100 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% CONGRESS, WHETHER IT'S THE MEDIA, YOU NAME AN INSTITUTION 33:15.233 --> 33:19.833 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THAT HAS HAD A LONG REPUTATION OR HALLOWED REPUTATION IN THE 33:19.967 --> 33:24.733 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% UNITED STATES AND IT'S LOSING CREDIBILITY. 33:24.867 --> 33:27.533 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% PART OF THAT IS OUR CONNECTEDNESS, WHERE EVERYBODY 33:27.667 --> 33:32.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% IS AN EXPERT IN SOMETHING AND YOU CAN PRESENT YOURSELF AS AN 33:32.467 --> 33:36.667 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% EXPERT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I MEAN, I THINK TRUMP IS 33:36.800 --> 33:41.967 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% EXPLOITING PEOPLE'S GULLIBILITY, AND I THINK HE'S EXPLOITING 33:42.100 --> 33:46.800 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% PEOPLE'S WILLINGNESS TO BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING FROM THEIR SIDE. 33:46.933 --> 33:48.667 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT MAKES SENSE OR NOT. 33:48.800 --> 33:51.500 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT STANDS UP TO REASON OR NOT. 33:51.633 --> 33:54.867 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% MY GUY IS SAYING IT OR MY PERSON IS SAYING IT, THEREFORE I'M 33:55.000 --> 33:58.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% GOING TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE AND I'M GOING TO MAKE IT BE TRUE. 33:58.733 --> 34:03.600 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A CONSEQUENCE OF ANY MEDIA 34:03.733 --> 34:08.000 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% FAILING. I THINK IT'S A CONSEQUENCE OF 34:08.133 --> 34:12.333 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% JUST AN INCREASED PARTISANSHIP THAT HE'S JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE 34:12.467 --> 34:15.267 position:21.09% line:84.67% size:57.81% OF. ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT 34:15.400 --> 34:18.767 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% THE MEDIA WAS WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND WHAT THE MEDIA IS NOW IS 34:18.900 --> 34:22.100 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% ROOTED IN TECHNOLOGY AND WHEN I WAS YOUNG, THERE WERE A 34:22.233 --> 34:27.067 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF MEDIA COMPANIES. 34:27.200 --> 34:30.100 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% THEY TO SOME DEGREE OPERATED AS MONOPOLIES. 34:30.233 --> 34:36.300 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THE WALTER CRONKITE WAS THE NEWSCASTER ON CBS WAS CALMED THE 34:36.433 --> 34:40.333 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MOST TRUSTED MAN IN AMERICA. I DON'T THINK AMERICANS COULD 34:40.500 --> 34:44.867 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% EVEN AGREE ON WHO THE MOST TRUSTED MAN IN AMERICA WAS 34:45.000 --> 34:46.300 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% TODAY, BUT THESE WERE BIG COMPANIES. 34:46.433 --> 34:48.100 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% THEY HAD VERY LITTLE COMPETITION. 34:48.233 --> 34:51.400 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% THEY WERE VERY PROFITABLE. THEY WERE VERY RESPONSIBLE AND 34:51.533 --> 34:53.333 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% VERY PROFESSIONAL. THEY PAID WELL. 34:53.467 --> 34:56.000 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% THEY COULD AFFORD TO BE ALL THOSE THINGS. 34:56.133 --> 35:00.267 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% AND THAT WAS WHAT THE MEDIA WAS. NOW, THE MEDIA IS ANYBODY WHO 35:00.400 --> 35:03.600 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A WEBSITE, YOU KNOW. 35:03.733 --> 35:05.600 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% ANYBODY WHO CALLS A TALK RADIO SHOW. 35:05.733 --> 35:08.200 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% IN A WAY THE PRESIDENT IS THE MEDIA. 35:08.333 --> 35:14.067 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% HE HAS A FOLLOWING ON A MEDIA OUTLET, TWITTER, AND HE'S LIKE A 35:14.200 --> 35:19.367 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% MOUNTAIN GENERATING ITS OWN WEATHER WITH THE WAY HE CREATES 35:19.500 --> 35:20.900 position:46.43% line:79.33% size:7.14% NEWS. AND SO YOU KNOW, FROM MY POINT 35:21.033 --> 35:24.433 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% OF VIEW AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF AN 35:24.567 --> 35:27.967 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% ESTABLISHED MEDIA COMPANY IN OUR STATE, THE BIGGEST NEWSPAPER IN 35:28.100 --> 35:32.167 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% OUR STATE, I THINK THAT A LOT OF THESE STATISTICS ABOUT LOSS OF 35:32.300 --> 35:37.400 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THE MEDIA, YOU KNOW, ARE ABOUT NEW FORMS OF 35:37.533 --> 35:41.133 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% MEDIA THAT DIDN'T EXIST AND NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE FORMS OF MEDIA 35:41.267 --> 35:44.700 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% THAT HAVE EXISTED IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, FOR HALF A 35:44.833 --> 35:48.600 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% CENTURY OR A CENTURY. AND SO I THINK THE POLLING THAT 35:48.733 --> 35:51.400 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF REFLECTS THAT. 35:51.533 --> 35:55.367 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% YOU HAVE NEW OUTLETS THAT DIDN'T EXIST WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND WHOSE 35:55.500 --> 36:00.167 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT ROOTED IN THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, 36:00.300 --> 36:05.867 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% RESPONSIBLE CONSENSUS NEWS. IT'S ROOTED IN THE IDEA OF 36:06.000 --> 36:07.300 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% SENSATIONALISM OR HATE MONGERING. 36:07.433 --> 36:09.667 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% IF YOU WATCH -- YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CABLE NEWS. 36:09.800 --> 36:12.967 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% IF YOU WATCH CABLE NEWS AT NIGHT, WHICH I, BY THE WAY, 36:13.100 --> 36:17.300 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% DON'T DO, I WATCH BASEBALL, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THERE WAS A 36:17.433 --> 36:22.367 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% CRISIS IN AMERICA EVERY MINUTE AND THERE ISN'T A CRISIS IN 36:22.500 --> 36:24.567 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% AMERICA EVERY MINUTE. YOU KNOW, AMERICA HAS ITS 36:24.700 --> 36:27.467 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% PROBLEMS, BUT IT'S A STRONG, SECURE COUNTRY. 36:27.600 --> 36:29.900 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% IT'S A PLACE WHERE HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WOULD MOVE 36:30.033 --> 36:34.900 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% TO IN A HEARTBEAT IF THEY COULD. BUT THAT DOESN'T SELL. 36:35.033 --> 36:38.867 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% WHAT SELLS IS MAKING EVERYTHING INTO A CRISIS. 36:39.067 --> 36:42.467 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO ASPIRING JOURNALISTS AND YOUNG 36:42.600 --> 36:46.067 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE LOOKING TO ENTER THE MEDIA? 36:46.267 --> 36:48.633 position:22.02% line:84.67% size:55.95% MY ADVICE HASN'T MUCH CHANGED. 36:48.767 --> 36:50.867 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% EVEN THOUGH THE TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED, PETER'S RIGHT, EVEN 36:51.000 --> 36:53.433 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% THOUGH THE ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED, PETER'S RIGHT. 36:53.567 --> 36:55.833 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% EVEN THOUGH THE COMPETITION HAS CHANGED. 36:55.967 --> 36:58.733 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MY ADVICE STILL TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE JOURNALISTS IS TO 36:58.867 --> 37:00.800 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% WRITE. REPORT AND WRITE AND REPORT AND 37:00.933 --> 37:06.300 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% WRITE AND GO TO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN REPORT AND WRITE AND GET 37:06.433 --> 37:10.933 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% GOOD SUPERVISION. THE BEST THINGS IN THE -- IN THE 37:11.067 --> 37:14.467 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% TRADITIONAL MODEL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN EXPLODED A BIT, IS YOU 37:14.600 --> 37:19.033 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% GO TO A PLACE -- I WOULD SAY JOURNALISM EDUCATION IS THE WAY 37:19.167 --> 37:22.633 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% WE TEACH IT, BUT IT'S ALSO AN APPRENTICE MODEL MEANING YOU GO 37:22.767 --> 37:25.800 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% TO A SMALL PAPER AND THERE'S PLENTY OF THEM IN THE STATE, 37:25.933 --> 37:28.467 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% SMALLER BY THE DAY, BUT YOU GO -- THERE'S PLENTY OF 37:28.600 --> 37:31.300 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% NEWSROOMS TO GO TO, TO COVER THE TOWN AND COVER A COMMUNITY 37:31.433 --> 37:34.733 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% MEETING AND COVER AN OFFICIAL MEETING AND THAT KIND OF THING 37:34.867 --> 37:39.267 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% AND LEARN HOW TO ASSEMBLE FACTS, HOW TO TELL A NARRATIVE, BUILD A 37:39.400 --> 37:42.867 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% NARRATIVE, HOW TO TELL A STORY AND LOOK AT ALL SIDES OF AN 37:43.000 --> 37:47.300 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% ISSUE, AND THEN FROM THERE, BUILD FORWARD WITH FEATURES AND 37:47.433 --> 37:50.900 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% ENTERPRISE. I STILL THINK THAT THAT'S -- 37:51.033 --> 37:53.567 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% THAT'S THE WAY TO GO. IT'S REALLY HARD NOW BECAUSE 37:53.700 --> 37:57.300 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% THERE ARE FEWER AND FEWER JOBS AND MORE AND MORE OF THESE 37:57.433 --> 38:03.833 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% PLACES ARE NO LONGER TEACHING HOSPITALS THE WAY IT WAS WHEN I 38:03.967 --> 38:07.533 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% GOT OUT OF SCHOOL. WELL, PRACTICED JOURNALISM IS 38:07.667 --> 38:10.100 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% SELF-CORRECTING AND THERE'S NO EXPERIENCE MORE FRIGHTENING WHEN 38:10.233 --> 38:14.667 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% YOU'RE YOUNG THAN, YOU KNOW, WRITING A STORY ABOUT THE 38:14.800 --> 38:19.200 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% PRESIDENT OF THE POLICE JURY THAT'S NOT FLATTERING AND HAVING 38:19.333 --> 38:24.200 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% TO GO SEE THE GUY TOMORROW AND ASK QUESTIONS FOR ANOTHER STORY. 38:24.333 --> 38:30.033 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% AND THAT'S -- THAT'S A PROCESS THAT'S SELF-CORRECTING. 38:30.167 --> 38:35.200 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% AND IT FORCES YOU TO LEARN TO BE FAIR AND RESPONSIBLE AND IF 38:35.333 --> 38:38.667 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% YOU'RE IN A SMALL COMMUNITY, WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY, 38:38.800 --> 38:42.800 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% PEOPLE LOOK AT YOUR WORK AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE PRESIDENT OF 38:42.933 --> 38:46.067 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% THE POLICE JURY LOOK AT YOUR WORK AND THE PEOPLE WHO THINK 38:46.200 --> 38:50.133 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% HE'S A CROOK LOOK AT YOUR WORK AND THEY ALL OFFER YOU 38:50.267 --> 38:53.000 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% CRITICISMS ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT IN THERE OR WHAT YOU 38:53.133 --> 38:56.767 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% SHOULD HAVE SAID OR WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ASKED, AND I THINK 38:56.900 --> 39:01.567 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% THE GREATEST LEARNING LABORATORY IS, YOU KNOW, LEARNING FROM, YOU 39:01.700 --> 39:04.467 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% KNOW, WHEN YOU WRITE SOMETHING OR WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON 39:04.600 --> 39:08.300 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% TELEVISION, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY TAKING A POSITION ON WHAT YOU'VE 39:08.433 --> 39:12.233 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% DECIDED IS THE TRUTH, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN SOME WAYS LIKE 39:12.367 --> 39:14.700 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% WRITING A PAPER IN COLLEGE, AND THEN YOUR POSITION GETS ATTACKED 39:14.833 --> 39:18.000 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO SAW IT DIFFERENTLY AND YOU LEARN FROM 39:18.133 --> 39:19.433 position:22.02% line:84.67% size:55.95% THAT. AND THAT'S STILL A GREAT 39:19.567 --> 39:22.200 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% EXPERIENCE. SO YOU KNOW, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF 39:22.333 --> 39:26.467 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% AND DO THAT. I'LL GO TO A MORE GRANULAR 39:26.600 --> 39:27.833 position:26.69% line:84.67% size:46.62% LEVEL. KNOW HOW TO SPELL. 39:27.967 --> 39:33.200 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% [LAUGHTER] KNOW HOW TO PUNCTUATE A 39:33.333 --> 39:36.133 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% SENTENCE. AND I'M BEING COMPLETELY SERIOUS 39:36.267 --> 39:38.967 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LAUGHING. 39:39.100 --> 39:42.967 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% I THINK YOU WILL GO FAR JUST BY KNOWING THE BASIC MECHANICS OF 39:43.100 --> 39:50.633 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES GETS 39:50.767 --> 39:52.600 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% OVERLOOKED. ON A VERY, VERY BASIC LEVEL, I 39:52.733 --> 39:55.067 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THINK IF YOU HAVE THE MECHANICS DOWN, THE SPELLING DOWN, THE 39:55.200 --> 39:58.100 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% GRAMMAR DOWN, KNOWING HOW TO WRITE A SENTENCE, KNOWING HOW TO 39:58.233 --> 40:01.233 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% TELL A SIMPLE STORY, THEN YOU WILL REALLY GO FAR. 40:01.433 --> 40:06.233 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% AS THE MANAGING EDITOR OF A SMALL LOCAL NEWSPAPER I FIND 40:06.367 --> 40:10.900 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THAT IT'S HARD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE OUR READERS GET 40:11.033 --> 40:13.567 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% NATIONAL NEWS OR HEAR ABOUT NATIONAL NEWS. 40:13.700 --> 40:17.733 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% SO WHAT IS ONE WAY THAT I COULD ENSURE THAT MY READERS ARE NOT 40:17.867 --> 40:21.033 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% ONLY GETTING LOCAL NEWS, BUT ALSO SOME NATIONAL NEWS AS WELL? 40:21.233 --> 40:23.600 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% ON THE WEBSITE OR IN THE PAPER OR BOTH? 40:23.800 --> 40:27.467 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% THE WEBSITE, THE PAPER IS MOSTLY THE LOCAL NEWS. 40:27.667 --> 40:31.767 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% WELL, THE FIRST THING YOU CAN DO IS DEPENDING ON WHAT PARTNERS 40:31.900 --> 40:36.000 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% YOU HAVE, WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY ACCESS TO WIRES, IS YOU CAN 40:36.133 --> 40:40.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% BUILD A DIGEST OR ROUNDUP OF NATIONAL NEWS THAT GIVES PEOPLE 40:40.467 --> 40:43.767 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% A FEW OF THE BASICS OF WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW, RIGHT? 40:43.900 --> 40:46.933 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% AND IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ASSOCIATED PRESS, WHICH I KNOW 40:47.067 --> 40:50.633 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% IS NOT IN ALL CASES IN ALL SMALL PAPERS OR YOU MAY HAVE SOME 40:50.767 --> 40:55.833 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% OTHER PARTNERSHIPS THAT ALLOW YOU TO TAKE WIRE BRIEFS AND TURN 40:55.967 --> 41:00.933 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% THEM INTO STORIES THAT SHOW -- GIVE PEOPLE A SUMMARY OF THE 41:01.067 --> 41:04.800 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% MAIN STORIES OF THE DAY, EVEN JUST 10 STORIES. 41:05.000 --> 41:07.800 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% I THINK YOU SHOULD TRUST YOUR READERS TO KNOW THAT IF THEY 41:07.933 --> 41:11.600 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BUDGET IN WASHINGTON, 41:11.733 --> 41:15.867 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND THE STORIES THAT WILL TELL THEM, 41:16.000 --> 41:18.367 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BUDGET IN WASHINGTON. 41:18.500 --> 41:22.867 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% I THINK IF THEY'RE GOING TO YOUR WEBSITE, THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE 41:23.000 --> 41:25.600 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE TOWN. 41:25.733 --> 41:30.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY HERE, AND I THINK ONE 41:30.467 --> 41:35.567 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% OF THE BENEFITS OF TECHNOLOGY IS WE DO KNOW WHERE TO GO AND HOW 41:35.700 --> 41:39.067 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PALESTINE RIGHT 41:39.200 --> 41:42.500 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% NOW, IF THEY'RE COMING TO YOUR SITE, THEY'RE PROBABLY 41:42.633 --> 41:46.833 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% INTERESTED IN NEWS ABOUT YOUR TOWN. 41:47.033 --> 41:51.200 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% TO HAVE TRUST IN THE READERS, DO YOU THINK YOUR READERS AND 41:51.333 --> 41:55.733 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% READERS IN GENERAL AND PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING CABLE NEWS ALL 41:55.867 --> 41:58.533 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S 41:58.667 --> 42:01.000 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% OPINION, WHAT'S NEWS, WHAT'S ANALYSIS? 42:01.200 --> 42:05.133 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THAT'S A TOUGH ORDER BECAUSE IN 42:05.267 --> 42:07.633 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% THE TRADITIONAL ORGANIZATION OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS YOUNG IN 42:07.767 --> 42:10.400 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% THE TRADITIONAL ORGANIZATION OF THE WAY A NEWSPAPER WAS PUT 42:10.533 --> 42:14.733 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% TOGETHER, OR THE WAY A TELEVISION STATION PRESENTED ITS 42:14.867 --> 42:18.433 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% NEWS, THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN WHAT WAS NEWS AND WHAT 42:18.567 --> 42:23.000 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% WAS COMMENTARY ON THE NEWS WAS PRETTY CLEAR AND IF YOU LOOK AT 42:23.133 --> 42:26.967 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% NEWSPAPERS OR NEWSPAPER WEBSITES YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A 42:27.100 --> 42:32.533 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN NEWS AND SPORTS AND OPINION AND OTHER 42:32.667 --> 42:37.700 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% TOPICS, BUT IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARRIVE AT THE NEWS 42:37.833 --> 42:40.533 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, A LOT OF TIMES FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T 42:40.667 --> 42:44.733 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% KNOW -- YOU SEE SOMETHING AND YOU CLICK THROUGH TO IT AND YOU 42:44.867 --> 42:47.500 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE CLICKING THROUGH TO, BUT ALSO, YOU DON'T 42:47.633 --> 42:51.233 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% REALLY TAKE STOCK OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS LABELED AS AN 42:51.367 --> 42:54.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% OPINION PIECE AND SO THEN YOU CLICK THROUGH TO IT AND YOU SAY 42:54.733 --> 42:59.767 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% THAT'S AWFULLY OPINIONATED FOR A NEWS STORY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON 42:59.900 --> 43:02.300 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE TRUTH IS IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A 43:02.467 --> 43:05.400 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% NEWS STORY ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST. 43:05.600 --> 43:08.900 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% LANCE, DO YOU THINK SOCIAL MEDIA OR ELECTRONIC MEDIA IS 43:09.033 --> 43:11.433 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% CONTRIBUTING TO THAT? THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS A 43:11.567 --> 43:15.533 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% COUPLE OF THINGS. CERTAINLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T 43:15.667 --> 43:18.767 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% EVER ARRIVE AT A NEWS STORY. THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT 43:18.900 --> 43:22.367 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% HEADLINES GOING THROUGH THEIR NEWSFEED AND NOT CLICKING 43:22.500 --> 43:25.200 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% THROUGH AND SO THEY SEE A HEADLINE AND THAT'S AN OPINION 43:25.333 --> 43:27.933 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% PIECE, BUT IT'S NOT LABELED AS SUCH, AND I THINK A LOT OF 43:28.067 --> 43:32.467 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% NEWSPAPERS DO A VERY POOR JOB OF LABELING WHAT END UP IN A NEWS 43:32.600 --> 43:38.133 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% FEED WHETHER OR NOT IT'S NEWS OR OPINION AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT 43:38.267 --> 43:41.700 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% LITERALLY ADVERTISING NOW ON A LOT OF MAJOR PUBLICATIONS, WE 43:41.833 --> 43:47.200 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% JUST DID A STUDY AT LSU AND 30% OF NEWS AUDIENCES COULDN'T TELL 43:47.333 --> 43:50.700 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN AD AND A NEWS STORY. 43:50.833 --> 43:55.800 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% AND I HEARD THAT PRESENTED -- 70% COULD WELL 30% IS A PRETTY 43:55.933 --> 43:59.167 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% BIG NUMBER SO WE WERE REALLY EYE TRACKING TO SEE AND WE TOLD THEM 43:59.300 --> 44:02.567 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% TO CLICK ON ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE NEWS AND ALL THE 44:02.700 --> 44:10.600 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% THINGS THAT WERE ADS AND 30% NEVER CLICKED ON A NATIVE 44:10.733 --> 44:12.400 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% AUDIENCE. I KNOW AT NOLA.COM ONLINE 44:12.533 --> 44:15.900 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% EVERY OPINION PIECE HAS "OPINION" IN THE HEADLINE, 44:16.033 --> 44:17.967 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% RIGHT? AND THAT WAS A DEVELOPMENT 44:18.100 --> 44:24.033 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION BEFORE AND SOME OF IT 44:24.167 --> 44:27.800 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% OWES TO SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION WHERE WE WERE 44:27.933 --> 44:30.133 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% TRYING TO WRITE A HEADLINE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE AND 44:30.267 --> 44:34.267 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% NOTICE AND WANT TO READ AND SHARE, ETC., ETC. 44:34.400 --> 44:40.833 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% AND THAT SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION MAY NOT NECESSARILY 44:41.000 --> 44:46.100 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% FIT SO WELL WITH BIG OLD "OPINION" IN THE HEADLINE, BUT 44:46.233 --> 44:51.200 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% WE HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE DELIBERATE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF 44:51.333 --> 44:54.400 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% YEARS OF PUTTING THAT IN THE HEADLINE BECAUSE TO MY 44:54.533 --> 44:57.800 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% DISAPPOINTMENT, MANY PEOPLE DID PROFESS CONFUSION MANY TIMES. 44:57.933 --> 45:00.833 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% WELL, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THIS? YOU'RE BIASED. 45:00.967 --> 45:06.367 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% WELL, OKAY, AN OPINION BY ITS VERY NATURE HAS A BIAS. 45:06.500 --> 45:09.267 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% SO YES, THAT'S NOT -- THAT DOESN'T INSULT ME BECAUSE I'M 45:09.400 --> 45:12.267 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% WRITING AN OPINION. BUT IT WAS ALWAYS A CONTINUING 45:12.400 --> 45:15.300 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE SAYING WELL 45:15.467 --> 45:19.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THIS SOUNDS LIKE AN OPINION WHEN LIKE YEAH, IT IS AN OPINION. 45:19.733 --> 45:24.833 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% BUT AS PETER SAID, WHEN IT GETS SHARED, WHEN IT GETS SENT TO 45:24.967 --> 45:26.200 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% TWITTER, WHEN IT GETS SENT TO FACEBOOK, WHEN SOMEONE IS 45:26.333 --> 45:29.867 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% EXCERPTING IT AND PUTTING IT WHEREVER IT IS, WE COMPLETELY 45:30.000 --> 45:35.067 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% LOSE CONTROL OF THAT. SO HOW ARE YOU AND THE 45:35.200 --> 45:38.333 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU REPRESENT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO 45:38.467 --> 45:42.867 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% GET THE ATTENTION AND BE ABLE TO INFLUENCE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY 45:43.000 --> 45:46.167 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% WHEN MOST OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS SOCIAL MEDIA? 45:46.367 --> 45:48.000 position:22.02% line:84.67% size:55.95% I'LL START WITH THAT, I GUESS. 45:48.167 --> 45:52.033 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% I JUST FINISHED A CLASS WITH COLLEGE FRESHMEN AND THEY WERE 45:52.167 --> 45:54.767 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% NOT STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED SO MUCH IN JOURNALISM. 45:54.900 --> 45:56.833 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% IN FACT, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE CLASS WERE 45:56.967 --> 46:02.533 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% SCIENCE, MATH, ENGINEERING WOULD-BE MAJORS, INTENDED 46:02.667 --> 46:05.933 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% MAJORS. BUT THEY HUNGERED FOR JUST THIS. 46:06.067 --> 46:11.833 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% THERE WAS A GROWING REALIZATION THAT THE SOCIAL PLATFORMS DON'T 46:11.967 --> 46:17.133 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% PROVIDE ENOUGH CONTEXT AND ENOUGH RELIABLE NEWS AND THEY 46:17.267 --> 46:19.067 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% WANTED TO KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS: HOW TO BUILD A MEDIA 46:19.200 --> 46:23.967 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% DIET, HOW TO LOOK AT JOURNALISM AND ASSESS WHETHER IT WAS OF 46:24.100 --> 46:29.533 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% GOOD QUALITY OR BAD QUALITY OR INFERIOR QUALITY AND WHAT LIFE 46:29.667 --> 46:33.800 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% SKILLS I COULD GIVE THEM TO ANALYZE INFORMATION AND SO ONE 46:33.933 --> 46:38.167 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF CARDS 46:38.300 --> 46:42.433 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% JUST LIKE THIS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED BY THE MANSHIP 46:42.567 --> 46:47.300 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% SCHOOL ABOUT HOW TO LOOK AT -- HOW TO JUDGE A STORY, WHETHER 46:47.433 --> 46:51.233 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THE SOURCING IS ACCURATE AND AUTHORITATIVE, WHETHER THE DATA 46:51.367 --> 46:54.867 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% IS VERIFIABLE, WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO ARE QUOTED ARE NAMED, 46:55.033 --> 46:56.400 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% WHETHER THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IF ANYBODY 46:56.533 --> 47:04.100 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% WOULD LIKE A COPY, IF THE VIEWERS WOULD LIKE A COPY, 47:04.233 --> 47:10.400 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% MANSHIP.LSU.EDU AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD A VERSION OF THIS, 47:10.533 --> 47:13.667 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% WHICH FOLDS OUT. I THINK THERE'S A SIMILARITY 47:13.800 --> 47:15.867 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% TO PAWHOM SAY ABOUT THE MEDIA AND WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT 47:16.000 --> 47:20.467 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% POLITICIANS AND PEOPLE HAVE A CONTEMPTUOUS VIEW OF 47:20.600 --> 47:22.800 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% POLITICIANS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THOSE ARE THE POLITICIANS YOU 47:22.933 --> 47:30.600 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% ELECTED AND IF YOU HAVE A VIEW OF THEM, YOU HAVE THAT VIEW OF 47:30.733 --> 47:34.100 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% YOURSELF AND YOUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE YOU PUT THEM IN THERE, 47:34.233 --> 47:37.567 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% YOU DIDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE THEIR MONEY CAME FROM, YOU 47:37.700 --> 47:39.500 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% DIDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY BELIEVED IN, YOU DIDN'T FIGURE 47:39.633 --> 47:44.133 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% OUT HOW THEY WOULD VOTE AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING -- THE 47:44.267 --> 47:48.100 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SAME THING APPLIES TO THE MEDIA. PEOPLE LOVE TO CRITICIZE THE 47:48.233 --> 47:49.800 position:43.63% line:79.33% size:12.73% MEDIA. THEY SAY OH, I HATE WATCHING THE 47:49.933 --> 47:52.600 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% TV NEWS BECAUSE IT'S ALL FULL OF VIOLENCE. 47:52.733 --> 47:55.400 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% WELL, IF IT'S ALL FULL OF VIOLENCE IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE 47:55.533 --> 47:58.400 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% DISCOVERED THAT YOU'LL WATCH IT IF IT'S ALL FULL OF VIOLENCE AND 47:58.533 --> 48:02.467 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% SO I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS TO, YOU KNOW -- THE CHALLENGE IS TO 48:02.600 --> 48:07.000 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% OUR CITIZENS IN THE SAME WAY, WE NEED TO ELECT BETTER 48:07.133 --> 48:09.933 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% POLITICIANS. I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK FOR 48:10.067 --> 48:14.467 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% AUTHORITATIVE SOURCES OF INFORMATION AND PUT IN THE TIME 48:14.600 --> 48:17.133 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% JUST AS YOU SHOULD IN ELECTING A POLITICIAN TO UNDERSTAND WHERE 48:17.267 --> 48:20.400 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% YOUR INFORMATION IS COMING FROM AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT. 48:20.600 --> 48:23.833 position:21.09% line:84.67% size:57.81% CAN I JUST INTERJECT ONE THING? 48:23.967 --> 48:27.033 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% I THINK THIS IS THE IMPERATIVE OF OUR AGE, MEANING I THINK 48:27.167 --> 48:29.833 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OUR OWN EDITORS. 48:29.967 --> 48:32.867 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% THERE ARE GREAT EDITORS IN THE STATE, PETER RUNS A TERRIFIC 48:33.000 --> 48:36.633 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% NEWS OPERATION. THE PICAYUNE HAS HAD A LONG 48:36.767 --> 48:42.267 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% HISTORY OF GREAT JOURNALISM. BUT THAT KIND OF -- THAT KIND OF 48:42.400 --> 48:45.733 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% EXPERTISE ON THE GROUND IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE SCARCE 48:45.867 --> 48:50.267 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION FROM ALL SORTS OF 48:50.400 --> 48:53.100 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% UNTRADITIONAL SOURCES AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, THEY HAVE TO BE 48:53.233 --> 48:58.100 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% THEIR OWN EDITORS. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE 48:58.233 --> 49:00.800 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% TEACHING TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO GO INTO JOURNALISM, BUT 49:00.933 --> 49:03.033 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% WANT TO BE A BETTER NEWS CONSUMER. 49:03.167 --> 49:05.867 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% HOW DO I GET GOOD INFORMATION AND HOW DO I TRUST IT? 49:06.067 --> 49:09.000 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% LET'S GO TO SCOTT AND IF YOU'LL REMIND US WHO YOU 49:09.167 --> 49:13.500 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% REPRESENT, SCOTT. SCOTT, I'M THE GENERAL 49:13.633 --> 49:15.133 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% COUNSEL TO THE LOUISIANA PRESS ORGANIZATION. 49:15.267 --> 49:17.467 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% I REPRESENT MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE. 49:17.600 --> 49:20.300 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% I AM FASCINATED BY THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT FAKE NEWS, 49:20.433 --> 49:22.200 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% PARTICULARLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID 49:22.333 --> 49:25.433 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% SEVERAL TIMES THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FALSE IDEA, 49:25.567 --> 49:26.967 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% RIGHT? THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE FIRST 49:27.100 --> 49:30.500 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% AMENDMENT IS THAT THERE IS A MARKETPLACE AND THAT THERE ARE 49:30.633 --> 49:32.500 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% TRUE THINGS IN THE MARKETPLACE AND FALSE THINGS IN THE 49:32.633 --> 49:36.633 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MARKETPLACE AND SO MY QUESTION FOR THE PANEL IS, ISN'T THE 49:36.767 --> 49:41.333 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE ARE VOTING WITH THEIR FEET? 49:41.500 --> 49:44.133 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% THERE ARE JUST MORE PEOPLE IN THE MARKETPLACE PARTICIPATING 49:44.267 --> 49:51.000 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% AND THE FAKE NEWS IS ACTUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE 49:51.133 --> 49:55.600 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% ACTUALLY GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH TO WIN PEOPLE TO THEIR SIDE SO 49:55.733 --> 49:58.500 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% THAT THEY WILL VOTE WITH THEIR FEET AND SUBSCRIBE? 49:58.633 --> 50:02.633 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% OR GO ONLINE AND READ THE TRADITIONAL NEWS SOURCES THAT 50:02.767 --> 50:05.667 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% ARE TELLING THE TRUTH? ISN'T THIS PART OF A PROCESS AND 50:05.800 --> 50:09.067 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% ARE WE JUST KIND OF UBER CONCERNED WITH IT RIGHT NOW 50:09.200 --> 50:10.433 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% BECAUSE OF THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE COUNTRY? 50:10.633 --> 50:14.333 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% IT IS A PROCESS AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PART OF A PROCESS. 50:14.467 --> 50:20.467 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% BUT IT'S AMPED UP NOW BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY, THE ECHO CHAMBER 50:20.600 --> 50:23.467 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% EFFECT OF SOCIAL MEDIA, THE FILTER BUBBLES, ALL OF THAT, HAS 50:23.600 --> 50:26.467 position:40.84% line:79.33% size:18.33% PUT THIS OUT THERE. I STILL BELIEVE IN THE 50:26.600 --> 50:30.067 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS. I THINK IT MAY TAKE LONGER THAN 50:30.200 --> 50:33.967 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% IT USED TO TAKE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY VOICES AS YOU'RE 50:34.100 --> 50:37.100 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% REFERRING TO, THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE AND THE NUMBER OF 50:37.233 --> 50:40.833 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% PLAYERS, BUT I STILL BELIEVE THAT ULTIMATELY, THE TRUTH DOES 50:40.967 --> 50:45.100 position:29.65% line:79.33% size:40.71% WIN OUT, BUT I THINK THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS IS STILL 50:45.233 --> 50:49.900 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% THE FUNDAMENTAL -- THE FUNDAMENTAL CORE OF OUR 50:50.033 --> 50:53.767 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY AND THE ROLE THE PRESS PLAYS IN IT. 50:53.967 --> 50:57.767 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% WHAT STRUCK ME WHEN PETER WAS TALKING ABOUT WALTER CRONKITE 50:57.900 --> 51:02.367 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% BEING THE MOST TRUSTED MAN IN AMERICA A GENERATION OR MAYBE 51:02.500 --> 51:11.067 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% TWO GENERATIONS AGO NOW, WAS HISTORIANS OF JOURNALISMS HAVE 51:11.200 --> 51:13.100 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% SAID THAT WAS THE EXCEPTION, THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME 51:13.233 --> 51:17.867 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THAT JOURNALISM HAS EXISTED IN AMERICA, IT'S BEEN A LOT MORE 51:18.000 --> 51:22.033 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% LIKE IT IS TODAY THAN IT WAS DURING THE CRONKITE ERA, WHERE 51:22.200 --> 51:29.600 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% YOU PICK YOUR SIDE AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO I WANT TO SEE. 51:29.733 --> 51:33.733 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% SO WE ARE STILL TRYING TO I THINK HOLD TIGHT AND HOLD FAST 51:33.867 --> 51:38.633 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% TO THAT CONCEPT THAT EXISTED FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL FLEETING MOMENT 51:38.767 --> 51:48.967 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% IN TIME, WHERE PEOPLE HAD THIS IDEA OF NON-PARTISAN, FAIR AND 51:49.100 --> 51:53.433 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% BALANCED, UNBIASED REPORTING, BUT I THINK THE NORM IS FAR, FAR 51:53.567 --> 51:55.900 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% OUTSIDE OF THAT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, AND I 51:56.067 --> 52:00.500 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT FAKE NEWS IS NOT A NEW THING RELATED 52:00.633 --> 52:05.200 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% TO THE INTERNET. THE SALEM WITCH HUNT WAS FAKE 52:05.333 --> 52:08.567 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% NEWS. THE GREATEST PIECE OF FAKE NEWS 52:08.700 --> 52:13.533 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% IN MY LIFETIME WAS KENNEDY ASSASSINATION CONSPIRACY 52:13.667 --> 52:17.633 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THEORIES AND ALL OF THAT GAVE RISE BEFORE THE INTERNET, USING 52:17.767 --> 52:23.067 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% OTHER TECHNOLOGIES, CHIEFLY BOOK PUBLISHING AND GUYS WRITING 52:23.200 --> 52:29.000 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% BOOKS AND GOING ON TALK SHOWS AND TALKING ABOUT THE 52:29.167 --> 52:32.133 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% INCONGRUITIES IN THE WARREN COMMISSION REPORT. 52:32.267 --> 52:37.933 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% OLIVER STONE MADE A THREE-HOUR MOTION PICTURE, WHICH REALLY 52:38.067 --> 52:43.533 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% IMPLANTED IN YOUNG PEOPLE'S HEADS THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS A 52:43.667 --> 52:47.233 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% BIG CONSPIRACY INVOLVING THE CIA AND THE MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT 52:47.367 --> 52:52.333 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% TO KILL KENNEDY AND ALL OF THAT IS FAKE NEWS AND ALL OF THAT 52:52.467 --> 52:57.533 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% FAKE NEWS EXISTED BEFORE THE INTERNET AND POLLS SHOWED -- AND 52:57.667 --> 53:01.500 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% STILL SHOW THAT MORE PEOPLE THINK THAT THE KENNEDY 53:01.633 --> 53:05.633 position:28.71% line:79.33% size:42.58% ASSASSINATION WAS A VAST CONSPIRACY THAN, YOU KNOW, ONE 53:05.767 --> 53:09.267 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% KIND OF LOSER WHO, BY THE WAY, WAS BORN IN LOUISIANA WHO SORT 53:09.400 --> 53:13.067 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% OF WAS A GOOD SHOT AND HAPPENED TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE 53:13.200 --> 53:15.233 position:38.97% line:79.33% size:22.06% RIGHT TIME. AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S 53:15.367 --> 53:19.767 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% SO DIFFICULT FOR US TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT SOMETHING SO 53:19.900 --> 53:23.933 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% IMPORTANT COULD HAPPEN FROM SUCH A SERIES OF CIRCUMSTANCES. 53:24.133 --> 53:27.967 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% WE ARE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME AND THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY 53:28.100 --> 53:30.833 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% GETTING KICKED OFF. I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY TO 53:30.967 --> 53:33.967 position:34.31% line:79.33% size:31.39% CHANCE TO MAKE A BRIEF CLOSING REMARK OR COMMENT. 53:34.167 --> 53:38.967 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% I WOULD JUST SAY THAT TO ADD TO KIND OF THIS DISCUSSION HERE 53:39.100 --> 53:44.000 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% IS THAT WE HAVE THESE MAJOR PLATFORMS NOW THAT ARE IN CHARGE 53:44.133 --> 53:45.967 position:48.3% line:79.33% size:3.41% OF A LOT OF OUR MEDIA INFORMATION. 53:46.100 --> 53:49.300 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MICROSOFT AND GOOGLE AND 53:49.433 --> 53:53.600 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% FACEBOOK AND THESE ARE NOT COMPANIES THAT HAVE NEWS VALUES 53:53.733 --> 53:57.367 position:47.36% line:79.33% size:5.28% AS PART OF THEIR MISSION STATEMENT. 53:57.500 --> 54:00.867 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING PROFITS AND SELLING 54:01.000 --> 54:03.133 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% PRODUCTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SO THEIR OBJECTIVES ARE 54:03.267 --> 54:06.133 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% DIFFERENT THAN TRADITIONAL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS. 54:06.267 --> 54:10.967 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% SO THE FACT THAT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEIR NEWS 54:11.100 --> 54:15.033 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% FROM THESE PLATFORMS CREATES AN INHERENT CONFLICT, AND IT'S 54:15.167 --> 54:16.333 position:33.38% line:79.33% size:33.25% SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO. 54:16.533 --> 54:18.467 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT NEWS IS LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND YOU 54:18.600 --> 54:23.067 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR AND IF YOU GET FREE NEWS FROM FACEBOOK THEN 54:23.200 --> 54:27.400 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE OUTRAGED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S CRAPPY 54:27.533 --> 54:31.400 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% AND INACCURATE. IF YOU WANT -- IF YOU WANT FREE 54:31.533 --> 54:32.767 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% FOOD, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY GOOD. 54:32.900 --> 54:35.900 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% IF YOU WANT FREE HOUSING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY GOOD. 54:36.033 --> 54:38.800 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO GET USED TO THE IDEA 54:38.933 --> 54:42.700 position:31.51% line:79.33% size:36.98% THAT IF THEY WANT REAL NEWS THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. 54:42.867 --> 54:45.800 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% THERE'S A DAWNING REALIZATION INCLUDING AMONG THE PEOPLE IN 54:45.933 --> 54:48.900 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% THIS ROOM THAT WHAT YOU GET IN THE WAY OF FREE NEWS ISN'T 54:49.033 --> 54:53.633 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% NECESSARILY ACCURATE AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHY IT EXISTS AND THE 54:53.767 --> 54:58.300 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% RUSSIAN ATTEMPTS TO INFLUENCE OUR ELECTION ARE A PIECE OF 54:58.433 --> 54:59.667 position:44.56% line:79.33% size:10.87% THAT. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT IS ROOTED, 54:59.800 --> 55:04.233 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% ALL THAT INFORMATION WAS SPREAD TO PEOPLE WHO GET THEIR NEWS FOR 55:04.367 --> 55:05.400 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% FREE. AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL COME TO 55:05.533 --> 55:08.400 position:37.1% line:79.33% size:25.79% THE REALIZATION THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. 55:08.600 --> 55:12.867 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% I THINK ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF GOING TO COLLEGE AND I'M NOT 55:13.000 --> 55:15.833 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% SAYING IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE IS THAT 55:16.000 --> 55:20.633 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% YOU ARE ASKED TO DEVELOP A CONCEPT OF CRITICAL THINKING, 55:20.767 --> 55:31.367 position:24.05% line:79.33% size:51.9% WHERE YOU LEARN HOW TO EVALUATE IDEAS, EVALUATE THEORIES AND 55:31.500 --> 55:34.033 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% HYPOTHESES AND FIGURE OUT WHY THEY DO OR DON'T MAKE SENSE AND 55:34.167 --> 55:37.400 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW WHO HAVE BEEN TO COLLEGE ARE STILL SO 55:37.533 --> 55:40.033 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% GULLIBLE AND CREDULOUS WHEN THEY'RE SEEING THINGS ON THE 55:40.167 --> 55:44.267 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% INTERNET AND I HAVE HAD ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TO SAY SOME 55:44.400 --> 55:48.100 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% OF YOU ALL WILL SHARE ANYTHING. LIKE THINGS THAT CLEARLY 55:48.233 --> 55:52.833 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% COULDN'T POSSIBLY MAKE ANY KIND OF SENSE DEMOGRAPHICALLY, 55:52.967 --> 55:55.300 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% MATHEMATICALLY, WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL IF YOU HAD YOUR 55:55.433 --> 56:00.467 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% BRAINS OPERATING AND YET PEOPLE ARE SHOWING THIS WILLINGNESS TO 56:00.600 --> 56:01.433 position:49.23% line:79.33% size:1.55% SHARE. AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK THIS 56:01.567 --> 56:05.567 position:49.39% line:74% size:1.22% SPEAKS TO MY SIDE, THIS HELPS MY ARGUMENT, THIS HELPS MY SIDE AND 56:05.700 --> 56:08.500 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% I'M GOING TO SHARE IT SO WHEN YOU MENTION THAT WE ALL HAVE TO 56:08.633 --> 56:14.733 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% BECOME EDITORS, I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO ALSO BECOME A LOT MORE 56:14.867 --> 56:17.933 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% CONSCIOUS ABOUT NOT ONLY WHAT WE ARE READING, BUT ALSO WHAT WE 56:18.067 --> 56:20.433 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% ARE SHARING. WHAT ARE WE PUTTING OUT THERE? 56:20.567 --> 56:24.567 position:22.19% line:79.33% size:55.63% HOW ARE WE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS MADNESS OUT THERE, THAT PEOPLE 56:24.700 --> 56:29.533 position:39.9% line:79.33% size:20.19% ARE WILLING TO BELIEVE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING? 56:29.733 --> 56:34.233 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE CORE VALUES OF THE PRESS'S ROLE IN 56:34.367 --> 56:37.933 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% THE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, BUT I DO THINK THAT ALL OF WHAT WE'VE 56:38.067 --> 56:41.100 position:25.91% line:79.33% size:48.17% BEEN TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT 56:41.233 --> 56:42.733 position:33.22% line:84.67% size:33.57% GETS BETTER. OKAY. 56:42.867 --> 56:47.033 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% THAT'S A REALLY CHEERFUL WAY TO END THE EVENING. 56:47.167 --> 56:47.867 position:26.69% line:84.67% size:46.62% [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU LIN. 56:48.000 --> 56:52.200 position:20.32% line:79.33% size:59.36% SO WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME FOR OUR QUESTION-AND-ANSWER SEGMENT AND 56:52.333 --> 56:55.467 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR PANELISTS FOR THEIR INSIGHT ON 56:55.633 --> 56:58.067 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% THIS MONTH'S TOPIC. WHEN WE RETURN WE'LL HAVE A FEW 56:58.200 --> 56:59.567 position:27.62% line:84.67% size:44.76% CLOSING COMMENTS. ♪♪ 56:59.700 --> 57:12.967 position:29.48% line:84.67% size:41.03% ♪♪ WHAT A TERRIFIC 57:13.100 --> 57:14.167 position:38.04% line:79.33% size:23.92% CONVERSATION. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WE COULD 57:14.300 --> 57:16.233 position:24.98% line:79.33% size:50.03% TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, BUT OBVIOUSLY, I'M IMPRESSED WITH 57:16.367 --> 57:19.533 position:41.77% line:79.33% size:16.47% THE AUDIENCE AND WITH THE PANEL, AS WELL. 57:19.667 --> 57:21.933 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% AND IT'S COMMITTED ME TO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE ROLE IS 57:22.067 --> 57:24.600 position:21.25% line:79.33% size:57.5% OF PUBLIC MEDIA, AND I THINK WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY. 57:24.800 --> 57:26.767 position:42.7% line:79.33% size:14.6% AND A VERY GOOD REPUTATION I THINK, TOO. 57:26.967 --> 57:28.267 position:32.44% line:79.33% size:35.11% WELL, THANK YOU AND THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR 57:28.400 --> 57:30.367 position:35.24% line:79.33% size:29.52% TONIGHT'S PROGRAM. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT OUR 57:30.500 --> 57:34.700 position:26.85% line:79.33% size:46.3% WEBSITE AT LPB.ORG/PUBLICSQUARE TO SHARE YOUR COMMENTS ON 57:34.833 --> 57:36.500 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% TONIGHT'S SHOW. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 57:36.633 --> 57:40.167 position:36.17% line:79.33% size:27.66% YOU MAY ALSO FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER. 57:40.367 --> 57:43.267 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% WITH SUMMER APPROACHING, PEOPLE IN LOUISIANA TAKE TO THE 57:43.400 --> 57:46.367 position:21.09% line:84.67% size:57.81% WATER. COASTAL FISHERMEN MAY BE 57:46.500 --> 57:49.233 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SURPRISED TO DISCOVER RESTRICTED ACCESS TO WATERWAYS THAT ARE 57:49.367 --> 57:52.000 position:45.5% line:79.33% size:9% CONSIDERED PUBLIC IN ANY OTHER STATE. 57:52.133 --> 57:54.200 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% JOIN "LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE" NEXT MONTH AS IT EXPLORES THIS 57:54.333 --> 57:57.833 position:27.78% line:79.33% size:44.44% ISSUE AND OTHERS IN AN ENCORE PRESENTATION OF LOUISIANA, 57:57.967 --> 58:00.367 position:23.12% line:79.33% size:53.77% SPORTSMAN'S PARADISE OR PROBLEM? THANKS FOR WATCHING AND GOOD 58:00.500 --> 58:01.700 position:33.22% line:84.67% size:33.57% NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT. 58:01.833 --> 58:11.067 position:37.88% line:84.67% size:24.25% ♪♪ ♪♪ 58:11.200 --> 58:17.967 position:37.88% line:84.67% size:24.25% ♪♪ ♪♪ 58:35.233 --> 58:41.900 position:30.58% line:79.33% size:38.84% FOR A COPY OF THIS PROGRAM, GO ONLINE TO WWW.LPB.ORG.