>> THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE

POSSIBLE IN PART FROM FUNDING

FROM EDUCATIONS NEXT HORIZON,

STATEWIDE NONPROFIT DEDICATED

SOLY TO IMPROVING PREK-THROUGH

12 EDUCATION, LEADING ADVOCATE

FOR POLICIES ENSURING COLLEGE

AND CAREER READINESS.

EXXON MOBIL BATON ROUGE,

FOCUSING ITS ENERGY ON SCIENCE,

TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, AND

MASS -- MATH EDUCATION.

THE FOUNDATION FOR EXCELLENCE

IN LOUISIANA PUBLIC

BROADCASTING.

 

>>> HELLO, WELCOME TO A SPECIAL

TOWN HALL EDITION OF "LOUISIANA

PUBLIC SQUARE."

I'M BETH COURTNEY, PRESIDENT OF

LPB.

>> I'M KIRBY GOIDEL.

THE TEACHING STANDARDS THAT

BEAR THE NAME, PART OF AN

INITIATIVE, COMMON BENCHMARK

FOR MATH AND -- WHILE LOUISIANA

ADOPTED THE STANDARDS IN 2010,

THEY WON'T TAKE FULL EFFECT

UNTIL THE 2014 SCHOOL YEAR.

>> WELL, IT -- IN LOUISIANA,

COMMON CORE HAS NOT BEEN

WITHOUT FALLOUT.

OPPONENTS HAVE TAINTED COMMON

CORE AS AN ATTEMPTED FEDERAL

TAKEOVER OF EDUCATION AND

PUSHING FOR ITS REPEAL.

COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW QUICKLY

THE STANDARDS WERE BEING

IMPLEMENTED LED TO A TWO-YEAR

POSTPONEMENT OF TEACHER

EVALUATIONS TIED TO THEM AND

MANY PARENTS AND STUDENTS FEEL

LOST, CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A

MAJOR TRANSFORMATION WITHOUT

ENOUGH INFORMATION.

WELL OVER THE NEXT HOUR,

"LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE" WILL

HOPEFULLY BRING SOME CALM AND

CLARITY TO THE ISSUE AS IT

ATTEMPTS TO DECODE COMMON CORE.

SO, THIS IS WHAT THREE FOURTHS

LIKES LIKE.

THIS IS WHAT 1 1/2 WOULD LOOK

LIKE.

SO, WHO ATE MORE PIZZA?

DETRON OR LEBRON.

>> 5th GRADE MATH TEACHER

KEISHA FLEMING IS WORKING

THROUGH A WORD PROBLEM TO TEACH

THE ADDITION OF FRACTION WITH

UNLIKE DENOMINATORS.

BEFORE THE COMMON CORE

STANDARDS WERE ADOPTED BY THE

STATE, FLEMING'S EXPECTATIONS

MAY HAVE BEEN JUST THE ANSWER.

NOW STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE

ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT ANSWER

IS CORRECT.

>> WITH COMMON CORE, YOU

CAN'T -- YOU HAVE TO KNOW MORE

THAN JUST THE SURFACE.

YOU HAVE TO DELVE -- YOU HAVE

TO KNOW THE DEPTH OF IT.

I THINK ONCE STUDENTS ARE ABLE

TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE DOING,

THEN THEY'RE COMFORTABLE IN

MATH.

>> FLEMING HAS SEEN THE

CONSEQUENCES OF STUDENTS BEING

UNPREPARED TO THINK

INDEPENDENTLY.

>> I USED TO WORK IN A DISTRICT

WHERE THE MAJORITY CHEMICAL

PLANT -- BECAUSE STUDENTS WERE

NOT ABLE TO BE PRECISE WITH

MATH OR EXPLAIN THE

MATHEMATICAL THINKING, THEY

WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE PLANT

JOBS.

>> LET'S REACH HIGHER.

>> THE DESIRE FOR A BETTER

EDUCATED WORK FORCE PROMPTED

INDUSTRY GIANT EXXON MOBIL TO

FINANCE PRO COMMON CORE ADS

DURING THE MASTER'S GOLF

TOURNAMENT LAST YEAR.

THE COMPANY PARTICIPATED ON A

PANEL ON INITIATIVE SPONSORED

BY THE LOUISIANA ASSOCIATION OF

BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY IN

OCTOBER.

KEN MILLER IS THE ENGINEERING

SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE BATON

ROUGE REFINERY AND CHEMICAL

PLANT.

>> THIS REALLY IS ALL ABOUT

CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS,

REASONING SKILLS, THE KINDS OF

THINGS THAT ALLOW INDIVIDUALS

TO TAKE THE LEARNING FROM AN

ACADEMIC SETTING INTO A WORK

SETTING, AND BE ABLE TO

FUNCTION AND BE VERY EFFECTIVE.

>> STATE EDUCATION

SUPERINTENDENT JOHN WHITE SAYS

THAT THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS

ARE NEEDED TO KEEP ALL OF

AMERICA COMPETITIVE.

>> WE'RE SLIPPING TO A POINT

WHERE WE ARE IN THE 20s IN

TERMS OF RANKED NATIONS IN

TERMS OF MATH AND ENGLISH

SKILLS FOR OUR ADULTS, TO A

POINT WHERE WE HAVE FEWER HIGH

SCHOOL AND COLLEGE GRADUATES

THAN WE DID A GENERATION AGO.

>> WHAT EXACTLY IS COMMON CORE?

A RECENT GALLOP POLL FOUND THAT

62% OF RESPONDENTS AND 55% OF

PUBLIC SCHOOL PARENTS DIDN'T

KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEW

ACADEMIC STANDARDS.

>> BASICALLY, THE COMMON CORE

STANDARDS ARE STANDARDS THAT

BASICALLY DESCRIBE WHAT

STUDENTS AT VARIOUS GRADE

LEVELS OUGHT TO KNOW AND BE

ABLE TO DO.

>> BARRY ERWIN PRESIDENT FOR

THE COUNCIL OF BETTER

LOUISIANA, WHICH SUPPORTS

COMMON CORE.

ERWIN SAYS THE STANDARDS

REVOLVE IN A REQUIREMENT IN

PRESIDENT BUSH'S NO CHILD LEFT

BEHIND ACT.

THAT APPROACH, ERWIN SAID,

RESULTED IN AN UNEVEN

ASSORTMENT OF BENCHMARKS WITH

VARYING DEGREES OF RIGOR.

>> SO, WITH THE NATIONAL

GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION,

ASSOCIATION OF STATE

SUPERINTENDENTS, THEY GOT

TOGETHER AND BASICALLY CREATED

A SET OF VOLUNTARY STANDARDS,

CAME UP WITH THEM THEMSELVES.

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIDN'T

CREATE THEM, DIDN'T MANDATE

THEM, DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM.

THEY CAME UP WITH THEM

THEMSELVES, AND THAT IS

ESSENTIALLY THE COMMON CORE.

>> STANDARDS APPLY TO MATH AND

ENGLISH IN KINDERGARTEN THROUGH

12th GRADE.

45 STATES, INCLUDING LOUISIANA,

HAVE ADOPTED THEM.

ERWIN SAYS THAT LOUISIANA'S

PRIOR BENCHMARKS WERE LOW WHEN

COMPARED TO OTHER STATES.

>> OUR STANDARDS WERE ABOUT A

GRADE LEVEL BEHIND IN WHAT YOU

SEE IN SOME OF THE HIGHER

PERFORMING STATES.

IN QUESTION WE NEED TO ADD MORE

RIGOR AND INCREASE OUR

STANDARDS.

>> THE GOALS THAT HER 10th

GRADE STUDENTS BE ABLE TO READ

LITERARY NONFICTION

INDEPENDENTLY AND EFFICIENTLY

BY YEAR'S END IS UNREALISTIC.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE THE

BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE, THEY

DON'T HAVE THE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE

NECESSARY IN ORDER TO THINK

CRITICALLY ABOUT THE TEXT.

>> SCHNEIDER OBJECTS TO WHAT

SHE SEES AS A BROADER MOVEMENT

BY REFORMERS PUSHING COMMON

CORE TO STANDARDIZE THE

NATION --

>> IF STAND ARDIZATION WAS --

WE ARE ON COMMON CORE AND WE

ARE GOING TO GIVE STUDENT TESTS

TO MEASURE THEIR KNOWLEDGE

BASED ON COMMON CORE.

I CHALLENGE -- TO FIND A HIGH

END

>> DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISIANA

SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

HE HAS POOR IMPLEMENTATION OF

COMMON CORE BY LOUISIANA'S

EDUCATION DEPARTMENT AND LACK

OF A STATE CURRICULA HAS CAUSED

FRUSTRATION AMONG TEACHERS

STATEWIDE.

>> ALL OF THOSE THINGS COUPLED

WITH THE EDUCATION REFORM

LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN 2012,

TEACHER EVALUATIONS, LETTER

GRADE LABELLING, ALL OF THOSE

THINGS COUPLED TOGETHER HAVE

CREATED AN EDUCATIONAL TSUNAMI

IN LOUISIANA.

>> DUE TO PUSH BACK FROM

EDUCATORS, THE EVALUATION OF

SCHOOLS AND TEACHERS TIED TO

COMMON CORE ACHIEVEMENT HAS

BEEN DELAYED BY THE STATE FOR

TWO YEARS.

PLANS TO MEASURE STUDENT'S

COMMON CORE ACHIEVEMENT THROUGH

ONLINE TESTING IS A FINANCIAL

CONCERN.

ESPECIALLY FOR SMALLER RURAL

DISTRICTS.

>> TO PHASE IN AND MOVE TOWARDS

AN ONLINE TESTING ENVIRONMENT,

AS REALLY CREATED SOME

CHALLENGES FOR DISTRICTS TO

PRIORITIZE THOSE DOLLARS FOR

TESTING.

AND TO ASK LOCAL SCHOOL

DISTRICTS TO DO THAT WITHOUT

ADDITIONAL FUNDING, MANY

DISTRICTS ARE LOOKING AT IT AS

AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

>> MOVE TO ABOLISH THE

IMPLEMENTATION OF COMMON CORE

DIED IN THE SENATE LAST YEAR,

SOME HAVE VOWED TO -- SOMETHING

>> I THINK LEGITIMATE CONCERNS

HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT HOW

COMMON CORE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED

AND IMPLEMENTED.

SO I THINK THE CONVERSATION

NEEDS TO CONTINUE.

>> ANY ACTIVITY THAT GETS MORE

INFORMATION ABOUT COMMON CORE

OUT TO THE PUBLIC IS A GOOD

THING --

>> MOST EDUCATORS CERTAINLY

AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

PARENTS NEED TO BE INFORMED,

LEADERS NEED TO BE INFORMED,

BECAUSE IT AFFECTS EVERY

CITIZEN IN THE STATE OF

LOUISIANA ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

>> HELPING TO GET THE WORD OUT

ABOUT COMMON CORE IS OUR

DISTINGUISHED PANEL OF EXPERTS

WE HAVE HERE IN THE STUDIO.

KEN MILLER, ENGINEERING SERVICE

MANAGER OF EXXON MOBIL BATON

ROUGE.

EXXON MOBIL SUPPORTS THE COMMON

CORE STANDARDS.

LEE BARRIOS, RETIRED EDUCATOR,

PUBLIC EDUCATION ACTIVIST

OPPOSED TO COMMON CORE.

KEN BRANFORD, ASSISTANT

SUPERINTENDENT WITH THE

LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF

EDUCATION'S OFFICE OF CONTENT.

HIS AGENCY OVERSEES THE

IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMMON

CORE STANDARDS.

AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE BRETT

GEYMANN IS A REPUBLICAN FROM

LAKE CHARLES WHO HAS DRAFTED

LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW

LOUISIANA TO OPT OUT OF COMMON

CORE.

MAYA BENNETT, READING

INTERVENTIONIST, AND SERVES AS

A COMMON CORE TEACHER LEADER

AND ADVISOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT

OF EDUCATION.

WE WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE

STUDIO.

WE HAVE I'M SURE LOTS OF

QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

BUT FIRST, KIRBY, YOU HAVE

INFORMATION ABOUT A SURVEY,

RIGHT?

>> YEAH, I HAVE SOME AMAZING

INFORMATION ABOUT A SURVEY DONE

BY THE LSU PUBLIC POLICY

RESEARCH LAB.

THEY ASK OVER 160 LOUISIANA

RESIDENTS ABOUT TONIGHT'S

TOPIC.

AMONG THE FINDINGS, WHEN ASKED

ABOUT THE RIGOR OF CURRENT

ACADEMIC STANDARDS IN LOUISIANA

PUBLIC SCHOOLS, MAJORITY OF

RESPONDENTS, 63%, THINK THEY

ARE NOT DEMANDING ENOUGH.

WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE RIGOR OF

THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS, 49%

SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT

DEMANDING ENOUGH.

YET WHEN ASKED HOW FAMILIAR

THEY ARE WITH THE MATH AND

ENGLISH COMMON CORE STANDARDS

THAT LOUISIANA HAS ADOPTED, A

TOTAL OF 76% OF THOSE SURVEYED

ARE NOT AT ALL OR NOT VERY

FAMILIAR WITH THOSE STANDARDS.

LUCKY FOR US, WE HAVE SOMEONE

IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, WHO

HAS -- IS ON A FACT-FINDING

MISSION.

AND SHE IS HERE TO ASK THE

OPENING QUESTION TO OUR PANEL.

WOULD YOU STAND UP AND TELL

THEM WHO YOU REPRESENT.

>> GOOD EVENING.

I REPRESENT THE -- CHAMBER OF

COMMERCE, A CEO.

AND OUR QUESTION IS AS MOST

CHAMBERS, WE SERVE AS THE VOICE

OF BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF OUR

1,000 MEMBERS.

AND I AM HERE ON A FACT-FINDING

MISSION BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD

VERY DIFFERING OPINIONS FROM

BUSINESS LEADERS AND CITIZENS,

PARENTS, TEACHERS, ON COMMON

CORE.

SO, I AM HERE AS PART OF THAT

MISSION AND WOULD LIKE TO ASK

THE -- ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF

THE PANEL WHY SHOULD WE OPPOSE

OR SUPPORT COMMON CORE PRIOR TO

THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE

SESSION?

>> WE CAN START WITH YOU,

MR. MILLER.

>> THANK YOU, LACY.

APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU AGAIN TO LPB AND

EDUCATION'S NEXT HORIZON FOR

ENGAGING WITH THIS IMPORTANT

DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON.

TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR

QUESTION, WE WOULD SAY YES, WE

DO SUPPORT HIGHER EDUCATION

STANDARDS AND FROM OUR

PERSPECTIVE, THOSE ARE REQUIRED

TO BE ABLE TO DRAW THE CRITICAL

THINKING SKILLS AND HIGHER

CAPABILITY IN MATH AND SCIENCE

THAT OUR CHILDREN NEED TO

COMPETE EFFECTIVELY IN THE WORK

FORCE AND POSITION THEM FOR THE

BRIGHTEST POSSIBLE FUTURE.

JUST A QUICK PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF NATURAL

GAS, VERY ECONOMICALLY

ADVANTAGED SITUATION HERE

DOMESTICALLY THAT WILL CREATE

POTENTIALLY 46,000 JOBS IN THE

CHEMICAL INDUSTRY, ANOTHER HALF

A MILLION JOBS IN RELATED

INDUSTRIES.

IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO

MAKE SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE

PROPERLY PREPARED TO COMPETE

FOR THOSE JOBS AND WE BELIEVE

THE HIGHER STANDARDS WILL LET

THEM DO SO EFFECTIVELY.

>> MS. BARRIOS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS

THAT.

A COUPLE OF POINTS I WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE.

FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE

THE CHAMBER OR PUBLIC IN

GENERAL SHOULD BE SUPPORTING A

SET OF STANDARDS THAT HASN'T

BEEN RESEARCHED, TESTED,

CREATED BY K-12 EDUCAEDUCATORS, AND

PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE.

AS WE ALL KNOW NOW, INTRODUCED

FAR TOO QUICKLY.

TEACHERS WEREN'T PREPARED AND

WEREN'T PROVIDED WITH THE

RESOURCES.

THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT

COMPONENT IS THAT IN

PARTICULARLY WITH BUSINESS

INTEREST IN MIND, AS YOU HAVE,

WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUR CHILDREN

TO BE CREATIVE AND

ENTREPRENEURS.

THE UNITED STATES IS KNOWN FOR

THAT.

AND THE LACK OF THE ABILITY OR

THE USE OF DIVERGENT THINKING,

CREATIVE THINKING IN THESE

COMMON CORE STANDARDS DOES NOT

LEND ITSELF TO DEVELOPING THAT

SORT OF STUDENT.

>> MR. BRADFORD.

>> YEAH.

I JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY ON MS.

BARRIOS COMMENTS.

THE COMMON CORE STATE STANDARDS

WERE DEVELOPED BY TEACHERS,

EDUCATORS, COLLEGE PROFESSORS

AND CONTENT EXPERTS.

THEY ALSO WENT THROUGH A

VALIDATION COMMITTEE,

VALIDATION PANEL WITH THE

COMMON CORE STATE STANDARDS,

AND WHEN THEY CAME TO THE

STATES, THEY WERE RELEASED,

THEY WERE VIEWED BY TEACHERS IN

LOUISIANA, EDUCATORS IN

LOUISIANA, AND THE LSU STEM

CENTER FOR LITERACY.

THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED.

TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, YOU KNOW,

IN THE WORK FORCE COMMISSION

HAS RELEASED DATA THAT SAYS

THAT BY THE YEAR 2020, THERE

WILL BE 2.25 MILLION NEW JOBS

IN LOUISIANA.

50% OF THEM WHICH WILL REQUIRE

EITHER A TWO OR FOUR-YEAR

DEGREE.

IN THE 2012 REPORT, FIRST TIME

FRESHMAN REPORT, ONE THIRD OF

LOUISIANA STUDENTS THAT WOULD

GO ON TO COLLEGE HAD TO TAKE A

REMEDIAL COURSE.

SO, I THINK THAT IN ITSELF SAYS

THAT WE NEED TO RAISE THE RIGOR

OF THE STANDARDS.

>> REPRESENTATIVE GEYMANN.

>> I THINK IT IS A GREAT

QUESTION.

NOBODY ACROSS THE STATE DOESN'T

WANT TO THE BEST FOR THEIR

KIDS, STUDENTS IN THE STATE.

I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYONE WHO

DOESN'T WANT TO RAISE

EXPECTATIONS.

THE QUESTION IS WHO IS GOING TO

DETERMINE WHAT THE STANDARDS

ARE?

THIS WAS DONE BY TWO NONPROFIT

GROUPS, NO PUBLIC MEETINGS NO

ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THOSE ARE

THE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME.

THE PROBLEM WE HAVE SHIFTED

AWAY LOCAL CONTROL AND GIVEN IT

OVER TO MORE OF A FEDERAL

INTRUSION INTO OUR EDUCATION

SYSTEM THROUGH THE COMMON CORE

STANDARDS.

WE CAN DO THIS RIGHT HERE IN

LOUISIANA.

WE CAN RAISE OUR EXPECTATIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE A PART OF A

GLOBAL UNITED STATES COMMON

STANDARD WHERE EVERY STATE IS

TEACHING THE EXACT SAME

CURRICULUM.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

WE CAN RAISE OUR STANDARDS HERE

IN LOUISIANA AND WE CAN DO THAT

RIGHT HERE.

I THINK THE CONTROL NEEDS TO BE

MORE LOW WHERE PARENTS HAVE

INVOLVEMENT.

WE HEAR ALL OF THE GREAT

TALKING POINTS, WE ALL WANT

WHAT IS BEST, WANT TO COMPETE,

PREPARE OUR KIDS TORE THE JOB

FORCE, COLLEGE, ABSOLUTELY WE

WOULDN'T TO DO THAT.

WHY ARE PEOPLE ACROSS THE

COUNTRY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH

COMMON CORE.

STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA,

REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SAID THEY

ARE GOING TO GET OUT.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE

COUNTRY.

HITTING THE KITCHEN TABLE.

PARENTS ARE SEEING IT AND

UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE SOME

ISSUES HERE.

WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.

THEY HAD NO INVOLVEMENT ON

THIS.

TWO PEOPLE DID NOT -- MATH

CONTENT EXPERT AND LANGUAGE

ARTS EXPERT DID NOT SIGN OFF ON

IT.

THIS IS NOT AS ROSY AS WE PAINT

THE PICTURE TO BE.

I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK

OVER AND DO IT AT THE STATE

LEVEL AND RAISE THE BENCHMARK

AND EXPECTATIONS AS HIGH AS WE

WANT TO RAISE THEM AND DO IT

RIGHT HERE IN LOUISIANA.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO OPPOSE

THE IMPORT OF COMMON CORE.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS A MORAL

IMPERATIVE TO SUPPORT THE

COMMON CORE STATE STANDARDS.

UNPRECEDENTED OPPORTUNITY FOR

COLLABORATION, STATE HEAD

EFFORT TO CREATE STANDARDS TO

PREPARE OUR STUDENTS FOR

COLLEGE CAREER SUCCESS.

NOW IN OUR GLOBAL ECONOMY,

GRADUATE FOR NOT ONLY GLOBAL

CITIZENSHIP BUT GLOBAL

LEADERSHIP.

OUR THINK OUR STUDENTS DESERVE

OF THE VERY BEST AND COMMON

CORE STATE STANDARDS -- AS A

TEACHER IN SCHOOL EVERY DAY, I

CAN ASSURE YOU THAT OUR KIDS

ARE READY.

IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TEACHERS

AND OUR COMMUNITY BEING READY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

IS OUR COMMUNITY READY.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEMBER

HERE.

BUSINESSMAN.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION, RIGHT?

>> I'M EDDIE, CHAIRMAN OF THE

INDUSTRIAL -- CONSTRUCTORS.

ELECTRICAL AND IMPLEMENTATION,

ENGINEERING, SPECIALLY COUNTRY.

WE WORK ALL OVER THE UNITED

STATES, PREDOMINANTLY THE GULF

COAST.

WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, I HAVE

BEEN INVOLVEDED IN WITH THREE

DECADES, AND THE LOUISIANA WORK

FORCE INVESTMENT COUNCIL WHEN

WE FORMED IT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

ABOUT TWO DECADES AGO, AS

CONTRACTORS AND AS OWNERS

AROUND THE COUNTRY, WE REALIZED

WE ALL HAD DIFFERENT

CURRICULUMS FOR TRAINING CRAFT

PERSONS.

SO, MANY ORGANIZATIONS CAME

TOGETHER AND FORMED WHAT THEY

CALL THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR

CONSTRUCTION EDUCATION AND

RESEARCH.

AND DEVELOPED A CURRICULUM, AS

WELL AS AN ASSESSMENT, THAT

COULD BE USED FOR CRAFT

TRAINING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND

STANDARDIZED IT.

WE CAME TOGETHER TO DO THAT.

AND NOW OUR CRAFT PERSONS CAN

BE TRAINED ANYWHERE IN THE

COUNTRY, ANYWHERE IN THE STATE,

AND WE CAN COMPETE ANYWHERE IN

THE STATE AS WELL AS AROUND THE

COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD.

>> YOUR QUESTION.

>> MY QUESTION IS,

REPRESENTATIVE, WHY WOULDN'T

WE, AND YOU AS A BUSINESS

PERSON, WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT

TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND

HAVE OUR CHILDREN COMPETE BOTH

THROUGHOUT OUR STATE,

THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY, AND

AROUND THE WORLD WITH HIGHER

STANDARDS?

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

I AGREE WE NEED TO RAISE

EXPECTATIONS AND WE CAN HAVE A

SET OF STANDARDS.

TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO -- TO DO

THAT IN THE WORK FORCE, THAT

COULD POSSIBLY BE A VERY GOOD

THING.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO STANDARDIZE

LOUISIANA WITH NEW HAMPSHIRE,

CALIFORNIA, FINLAND, POLAND,

CHINA.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT SETS OF

VALUES HERE IN LOUISIANA THAN

PEOPLE IN OTHER STATES ACROSS

THE COUNTRY.

I LOVE NEW HAMPSHIRE.

I'M GLAD THEY'RE PART OF THIS

COUNTRY.

I DON'T WANT TO TEACH MY KIDS

LIKE THEM.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE

NEW HAMPSHIRE.

ONCE WE TURN AWAY THAT CONTROL

AND GIVE IT TO THE FEDERAL

LEVEL, WE'RE DONE.

WE HAVE NO INPUT ANYMORE AT THE

PARENT AND LOCAL LEVEL AND I

THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT

THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN FOUNDED

ON.

AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM --

LOOK, I WANT TO RAISE THE BAR.

RAISE IT AS HIGH AS YOU WANT TO

RAISE IT.

MAKE IT A REACHABLE GOAL AND

LET'S GO DO THAT.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

I DON'T WANT THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT TELLING US HOW TO DO

THIS.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL SAY

THEY HAVE NOTHING DO IT WITH IT

AND IT IS NOT A FEDERAL

CURRICULUM.

WHEN YOU HAVE TO -- THAT IS A

NATIONAL ASSESSMENT.

EVALUATION, TEACHER PAY,

EVERYTHING BUILT ON STUDENT

PERFORMANCE.

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TEACH

TO THAT.

YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO

PASS THE TEST AND BY DEFAULT IT

WILL BECOME MORE NATIONAL.

>> REPRESENTATIVE, LET'S GET

THIS CLEAR THOUGH.

KEN BRADFORD, IT ISN'T A

NATIONAL CURRICULUM, IS IT?

>> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN A STANDARD AND A

CURRICULUM.

A STANDARD IS A TASK THAT A

STUDENT MUST ACHIEVE BY THE END

OF THE COURSE OR THE END OF THE

SCHOOL YEAR.

THE CURRICULUM ENCOMPASSES THE

TEXTBOOK, THE RESOURCES THAT GO

ALONG THAT THE TEACHERS ARE

USING, ETC.

AND WE WOULD AGREE WITH THE

REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE DO NOT

WANT A NATIONAL CURRICULUM.

WE BELIEVE IN LOCAL CONTROL.

AND THERE IS A STANDARD

ATTACHED THAT THE STUDENT MUST

ACHIEVE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND

THE SCHOOLS HAVE THE

FLEXIBILITY TO IDENTIFY THE

APPROPRIATE CURRICULUM THAT

THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE AND THE

TEXTBOOK.

THE EXAM, ITSELF, IS ALSO NOT A

NATIONAL EXAM.

THE POCK EXAM IS A -- STATES

THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER THAT WE

WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP AN

ASSESSMENT TO MEASURE COMMON

CORE -- LOUISIANA ONE OF 25

STATES PARTICIPATING IN THE

PARK EXAMS.

THOSE EXAM ASSESSMENT ITEMS

HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN UNISON

WITH ALL OF THE 25 STATES, AND

INCLUDE LOUISIANA EDUCATORS AND

TEACHERS.

>> YOUR SIDE, KIRBY.

>> WOULD YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION?

ARE YOU CONVINCED?

>> NO.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL, I'M A

RETIRED EDUCATOR.

AND I WRITE A BLOG FOR

EDUCATORS AND FOR PARENTS.

AND IN MY RESEARCH FOR THE

BLOG, I FOUND THAT OUT OF THE

25 PERSONS WHO WERE APPOINTED

TO WRITE THE STANDARDS, THERE

WAS NOT A SINGLE PRACTICING

CLASSROOM TEACHER IN THAT

GROUP.

LATER ON, TEACHERS GOT TO LOOK

AT IT BUT THERE WHETHER OR NOT

MANY CHANGES MADE.

MY QUESTION TO THE EXXON

REPRESENTATIVE IN PARTICULAR

IS, IF YOU WERE GOING TO REVAMP

YOUR PROCEDURE FOR ONE OF YOUR

PLANTS, WOULD YOU CONSIDER

DOING IT -- WOULD IT BE WISE TO

DO THAT WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH

THE OPERATORS, PEOPLE

EXPERIENCED ON THE JOB AND WHO

ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE IT

WORK?

WOULD THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?

>> VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND

THANK YOU.

I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE WOULD

CERTAINLY CONSULT WITH THE

OPERATORS AND THE PEOPLE THAT

OPERATE THE PLANT.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE ENGINEERS

AND THE HIGHER SKILLED FOLKS

ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE STANDARDS

AND FROM WHAT -- AND, AGAIN,

I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL

EDUCATOR, BUT I DO KNOW THAT,

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE

REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CANE

CENTER HERE, A NUMBER OF

PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS FROM THE

CANE CENTER THAT WERE INVOLVED

IN ACTUALLY DEVELOPING THE

STANDARDS AND THEY WERE

REVIEWED BY TEACHERS LATER.

AT LEAST FROM WHERE WE SIT, IT

SEEMS TO BE A VERY SIMILAR

PROCESS TO ONE THAT WE WOULD

FOLLOW.

>> MS. BARRIOS, WHAT IS YOUR

VIEW OF THIS?

>> AS A PROFESSIONAL EDUCATOR,

I -- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE

TIME TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC FROM

AN EDUCATIONAL PERSPECTIVE

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE COMMON

CORE STANDARDS.

I KNOW WE HEAR IT IS ONLY A SET

OF STANDARDS.

IF IT WERE ONLY A SET OF

STANDARDS, WHICH ALL OF THE

STATES HAVE HAD FOR QUITE

SOMETIME, AND LOUISIANA'S WAS

CONSIDERED TO BE QUITE GOOD,

TEACHERS WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM

WITH IT.

IT IS A BENCHMARK.

THESE STANDARDS OF ATTACHED TO

A HIGH STAKES, MEANING STUDENTS

WILL PASS OR FAIL BASED ON IT,

TEACHERS WERE LOSE THEIR

EMPLOYMENT OR BE DEEMED HIGHLY

EFFECTIVE BY VIRTUE OF IT, AND

SCHOOLS CAN BE CLOSED BECAUSE

OF IT, AS A RESULT OF IT.

IT IS A HIGH STAKES

STANDARDIZED TEST.

WE HAVE MOVED FROM STANDARDS TO

STANDARDIZATION, TWO VERY

DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

IN ORDER FOR THAT TEST TO BE

USED AS HIGH STAKES ACCORDING

TO POLICY OF US ED AND

RESEARCH, IT HAS TO BE ALIGNED

WITH A CURRICULUM.

SO, THE CURRICULUM WILL BE

STANDARDIZED BASED ON THE TEST

AND THE TEST IS BASED ON THE

STANDARDS.

>> MAYA, YOU ARE A TEACHER AS

WELL.

TELL ME, ARE YOU WORRIED THAT

YOUR STUDENTS -- THEIR PARENTS

WILL BE OUTRAGED AND THEY WON'T

BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD AND PASS

THESE TESTS, THESE STANDARDIZED

TESTS?

>> NO, I'M NOT WORRIED AT ALL

ACTUALLY.

FOR YEARS BEFORE COMMON CORE

WAS INTRODUCED, I YIELDED LOTS

OF CONCERNS FROM PARENT

REGARDING THEIR CHILD'S

PREPARATION, AND THEIR LACK

THERE OF.

WHEN COMMON CORE CAME ABOUT AND

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET

WITH PARENTS AND SHOW THEM WHAT

IT LOOKS LIKE IN PRACTICE, THEY

HAVE BEEN WELCOMING IT WITH

OPEN ARMS AND OUR STUDENTS HAVE

RISEN TO THE OCCASION.

IT IS REMARKABLE THAT THE

COMMON CORE STATE STANDARDS,

EMPHASIZE SPEAKING AND

LISTENING, AN IMPORTANT

SKILL -- I HAVE RECEIVED

STUDENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF

THE NEAR WHO WERE NONVERBAL AND

BY VIRTUE OF CREATING A

VERBALLY RICH CLASSROOM,

LANGUAGE, QUESTIONS, SEMINARS,

THOSE STUDENTS LEAVE ME ABLE TO

SPEAK AND ENGAGE IN WAYS THAT

THEY WEREN'T BEFORE.

COMMON CORE IS INCREDIBLY

POWERFUL AND I FEEL LIKE MY

PARENTS ARE READY AND MY KIDS

ARE, TOO.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS HERE.

SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A

QUESTION.

GIVE US YOUR NAME.

>> BRIAN ADAMS, TEACH FOR

AMERICA, SOUTH LOUISIANA.

TEACH FOR AMERICA IS A

NONPROFIT THAT BRINGS TEACHERS

AND LEADERS INTO SOME OF THE

HIGHEST NEED SCHOOLS ACROSS THE

COUNTRY.

MY QUESTION RELATES TO IF YOU

LOOK AT LOUISIANA, IT RANKED

NEAR THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE

EXAM RESULTS AND HAS CONTINUED

TO LAG BEHIND EDUCATIONAL

ACHIEVEMENT AT LEAST IN PART

BECAUSE OUR STANDARDS HAVE BEEN

HISTORICALLY LOWER THAN THE

STANDARDS OF OTHER STATES.

COMMON CORE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO

BASICALLY GET OUR STATE -- OUR

STUDENTS TO A POINT WHERE THEY

COULD BE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER

STATES.

MY QUESTION IS TO THE PANEL, DO

YOU BELIEVE THAT ALL OF

LOUISIANA STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO

ACHIEVE AT THESE HIGHER

STANDARDS, AND IF SO, WHAT IS

IT GOING TO TAKE?

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE LOUISIANA

STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AT

THESE STANDARDS, WHAT WOULD YOU

SUGGEST THAT STANDARD THAT

SHOULD BE IN PLACE?

>> ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS A PRETTY TOUGH

QUESTION, BUT I'M SURE, YES,

LEE.

>> FIRST OF ALL, STANDARDS

DON'T SET THE BAR FOR THE

CLASSROOM.

THE TEACHER SETS THE BAR BASED

ON HER CLASSROOM, THE

INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS IN IT.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS AND

LEARNED HOW TO INDIVIDUALIZE

LESSONS FOR STUDENTS BECAUSE

THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT, LEARNING

DIFFERENT LEVELS AT DIFFERENT

SPEEDS.

SO, STANDARDS -- YOU CAN RAISE

THE BAR FOR STANDARDS ALL YOU

WANT.

THE TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM

DETERMINES HOW TO PRESENT THAT

MATERIAL AND WHAT HER STUDENTS

AT ANY GIVEN TIME CAN ACCEPT.

THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE DIRECT

CORRELATION BETWEEN

SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS AND HOW

STUDENTS PERFORM AND

STANDARDIZED TESTS, BOTH WITH A

AN INTERNATIONAL TEST AND A

TEST IN THE UNITED STATES.

LOUISIANA IS I BELIEVE, SECOND

TO THE LAST, HIGHEST POVERTY IN

THE UNITED STATES.

THEREFORE, THAT HAS A LOT TO DO

WITH THAT CORRELATION.

AND INTERNATIONALLY, IF YOU

AGGREGATE STUDENT SCORES FROM

THE UNITED STATES AND SEPARATE

THOSE IN POVERTY FROM THOSE WHO

ARE NOT AND COMPARE THEM TO SAY

FINLAND WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE

AT THE TOP AND HAS BASICALLY

ZERO POVERTY, WE ARE RIGHT UP

THERE TOWARD THE TOP WITH THOSE

NATIONS.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THEN THAT

POOR STUDENTS CAN'T ACHIEVE.

>> NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

>> THAT IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

>> I'M SAYING THEY NEED A

DIFFERENT PRESENTATION, THEY

NEED TO BE WORKED WITH MORE

INTENSELY AND IN DIFFERENT

WAYS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO JUMP IN

ON THIS ONE.

YEAH, KEN.

>> AS A FORMER SCHOOLTEACHER

NORTH BATON ROUGE HIGH

SCHOOLTEACHER FOR SEVEN YEARS

MYSELF, AND CURRENTLY HAVING

THREE CHILDREN IN A RURAL

LOUISIANA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM,

GRADES THREE, FIVE, AND NINE, I

WILL SAY THIS.

I WILL SUPPORT WHAT MAYA WAS

SAYING ABOUT THE STANDARDS.

BUT AS FAR AS THE EXAMS -- SHE

IS CORRECT, WE'RE RANKED 47th

IS OUR BEST RATING AND THAT IS

ON OUR EIGHTH GRADE MATH FOR

THE NAPE RATING.

AND WE DO NEED TO RAISE THE

STANDARDS.

AND WE WOULD AGREE THAT EVERY

STUDENT, REGARDLESS OF

SOCIOECONOMIC CLASS SHOULD HAVE

ACCESS TO A RIGOROUS

CURRICULUM.

WE WOULD AGREE THEY ALL SHOULD.

>> WHAT I'M HEARING, THERE ARE

DIFFERENT APPROACHES THAT

SHOULD BE TAKEN.

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

>> RIGHT, AND ALSO THAT A

STANDARDIZED TEST, WHICH IS THE

MEASUREMENT THAT WE'RE USING --

IT IS A QUANTITATIVE TEST USED

TO MEASURE A QUALITATIVE -- THE

QUALITY OF LEARNING.

YOU CAN'T MEASURE QUALITY WITH

QUANTITATIVE MEASURES.

A STANDARDIZED TEST DOES NOT

SHOW HOW MUCH A STUDENT HAS

LEARNED.

IT SHOWS HOW MANY QUESTIONS

THEY ANSWERED CORRECTLY ON THAT

TEST.

>> WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM SOME

OF THE BUSINESS PEOPLE, PEOPLE

ARRIVE AND THEY'RE NOT

PREPARED.

>> YES, WE ARE SEEING A HIGHER

DEGREE OF APPLICANTS FOR JOBS

NOT QUALIFIED TO FILL THE JOBS.

WE ARE SEEING HIGHER DEGREE OF

DIFFICULTY.

WE DO TEST OUR APPLICANTS FOR

MATH AND SCIENCE CAPABILITY

BEFORE THEY COME IN THE DOOR,

AND, UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE

SEEING A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE

THAT ARE NOT PASSING.

WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT DRIVER

FOR THE REASON THAT WE'RE

SUPPORTING GOING FORWARD WITH

THE STANDARDS.

>> AND THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND INSTITUTED

STANDARDIZED TESTING, WAS IT

13, 14 YEARS AGO.

THAT THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH

STANDARDIZED TESTING.

NARROWING THE CURRICULUM,

FOCUSING ON A TEST.

>> ONE THING THAT SEEMS TO BE

MISSING OUT OF THIS

CONVERSATION, THERE IS NOTHING

PROHIBITING US FROM DOING THIS

NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE TO JOIN COMMON

CORE TO RAISE OUR EXPECTATIONS

AND TO CHANGE THE STUDENT

LEARNING HERE IN LOUISIANA AND

TO MOVE FROM 47 UP.

IT HAS BEEN 47, 49 AS LONG AS I

CAN REMEMBER.

NONE OF US LIKE THAT.

I DON'T THINK -- NOBODY HAS

BEEN PROUD THAT WE'RE 47th.

OKAY.

BUT A RADICAL CHANGE IN

EDUCATION -- BY THE WAY, IT WAS

NOT STATE LED.

STATE LED MEANS THAT ALL OF THE

LEGISLATIVE BODIES ACROSS 50

STATES GOT TOGETHER HAD

DISCUSSION, OPEN FORUMS, PUBLIC

MEETINGS, TESTIFYING AND

SOMEBODY VOTED AND WE CAME TO

THIS CONSENSUS.

THIS WAS NOT STATE LED.

STATE LED IS IF SOMEBODY IS

HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND SO WHY -- WHY DO WE WANT TO

GIVE THAT UP SO THAT -- SO THAT

IN THE NAME OF HAVING A BETTER

QUALIFIED EMPLOYEE?

WE WANT THEM TOO.

I WANT BETTER QUALIFIED

EMPLOYEES TO SHOW UP AT MY DOOR

AS WELL.

WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

OUR TEACHERS ARE WONDERFUL.

RAISE THE EXPECTATIONS, PROVIDE

THE RESOURCES WE NEED AND WE

CAN DO THAT.

FORGET JOIN COMMON CORE.

>> THE STATE LED BY WHOM?

>> STATE LED BY THE NATIONAL

GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION, PRIVATE

GROUP.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT STATE LED,

PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU DISCUSSED

THE ISSUE, PARENTS AND TEACHERS

AND EXPERTS HAVE COME AND

TESTIFIED.

YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED PROBLEM

AREAS AND YOU HAVE TRIED TO

SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

WE ARE IN IT AND NOW WE HAVE

ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS.

YOU CAN'T FIX IT.

IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, IT'S DONE,

AND WE'RE IN.

AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU HAVE 25

STATES DOING THE PARK TEST, HOW

IS IT COMMON ANYWAY.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER 25 STATES

DOING?

THIS WHOLE THING IS BAFFLING TO

ME.

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM

SOMEONE, FORGIVE ME IF I

MISCHARACTERIZE YOUR OPINION,

STARTED OFF SKEPTICAL AND IS

NOW MAYBE MORE CONVINCED, IS

THAT A FAIR REPRESENTATION?

>> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT.

MY NAME IS RYAN, AND I AM A

MEMBER OF THE REPUBLICAN STATE

CENTRAL COMMITTEE AND A

CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL

ACTIVIST.

AND I'M ALSO A FORMER PUBLIC

SCHOOLTEACHER IN BATON ROUGE,

TAUGHT MIDDLE SCHOOL MATH FOR

THREE YEARS IN THE BATON ROUGE

SYSTEM.

AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE

STANDARDS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A

FEDERAL TAKEOVER.

REPRESENTATIVE GEYMANN SAYS

THAT THEY ARE AND SAYS THAT

THEY MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE.

HE KNOWS THERE IS NO FEDERAL

ROLE, CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT

THERE MIGHT BE A FEDERAL

TAKEOVER LATER I DON'T SEE ANY

BASIS WHATSOEVER FOR THAT

EXCEPT FEAR AND I DON'T THINK

THAT IS A GOOD MOTIVATION FOR

POLITICS.

AS A FORMER TEACHER, I SUPPORT

THE STANDARDS BECAUSE THE OLD

STANDARDS WERE NOT GOOD.

TEACHING 6th GRADE MATH, ONE

FIFTH OF THE STUDENTS KNOW THE

TIME TABLES, AND TRYING TO --

LOUISIANA'S OLD STANDARDS WERE

SO BROAD, A MILE WIDE, AN INCH

DEEP, AND KIDS DID NOT LEARN

THE ESSENTIAL FACTS THAT THEY

NEEDED TO LEARN.

THOSE ARE REASONS THAT I

STRONGLY SUPPORT THE STANDARDS.

FOR REPRESENTATIVE GEYMANN,

WHAT ABOUT LOUISIANA STUDENTS

DO YOU THINK IS SO DIFFERENT

THAT THEY SHOULD NOT LEARN

THEIR MULTIPLICATION TABLES IN

THIRD GRADES.

IN -- YOU ARE PROPOSING TO GO

BACK TO THE OLD STANDARDS,

UNLESS -- I DON'T SEE ANY

PROPOSAL FROM YOU THIS IS HOW

WE CAN RAISE OUR STANDARDS

SEPARATELY, AND I WOULD ASK

AREN'T YOU REALLY SAYING THAT

LOUISIANA STUDENTS SHOULD BE

HELD TO A LOWER STANDARD?

>> YOU WILL SEE A PROPOSAL,

SIR, AND I THINK IT IS A GREAT

QUESTION.

I HAVE 12 LEGISLATIVE

INSTRUMENTS DEALING WITH THIS

TOPIC.

YOU WILL SEE A GROUP OF US IN

THE LEGISLATIVE BODY PROPOSING

AN ALTERNATIVE TO COMMON CORE.

WE WILL RAISE THE -- IT WILL

RAISE THE EXPECTATIONS, THERE

ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT

COMMON CORE.

THE CONSPIRACY THING -- A LOT

OF PEOPLE LIKE TO LOOK AT THE

OPPOSITION, YOU ARE A BUNCH OF

YOU KNOW WHAT OFFER, CONSPIRACY

THEORY GOING ON.

TEXAS DID NOT JOIN IT.

I BELIEVE EXXON IS LOCATED IN

DALLAS.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH

TEXAS NECESSARILY.

LET'S NOT GET INTO THE

CONSPIRACY THEORY ISSUE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE

WANT TO CONTROL OUR EDUCATION

IN LOUISIANA, OR DO WE WANT TO

TURN IT OVER TO A NATIONAL

AGENDA OF COMMON STATE

CURRICULUM, AND IT WILL, BY THE

WAY, IT HAS TO BE A NATIONAL

CURRICULUM IF YOU ARE PASSING A

NATIONAL ASSESSMENT.

LET'S DO THAT LOCALLY HERE IN

LOUISIANA WITH EXPERTS.

NOTHING PROHIBITING US FROM

DOING THAT NOW.

>> BETH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

PLEASE, STAND UP.

YOU ARE NOT SO HAPPY WITH IT,

RIGHT?

>> NO, I'M NOT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I AM A FORMER EDUCATOR.

I TAUGHT COLLEGE BOUND

STUDENTS.

SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF

COMMON CORE IN MY DISTRICT,

THIS YEAR, I AM NOW A HOME

SCHOOL MOTHER.

I HAVE PULLED MY CHILD FROM THE

SYSTEM.

AND I HAVE SEVERAL REASONS I'M

CONCERNED ABOUT COMMON CORE.

ONE OF THEM IS THE CURRICULUM,

ESPECIALLY THE CONTENT, AND THE

OTHER IS THE INSTRUCTION, AND,

THIRDLY, IS THE DATA SHARING.

SO THOSE ARE SOME MAIN CONCERNS

THAT I HAVE ABOUT THE COMMON

CORE.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS MY

QUESTION TO MS. BENNETT, AND

THEN TO MS. BARRIOS.

ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE

COMMON CORE STANDARDS, IF YOU

READ THEM IN DEPTH, YOU WILL

NOTICE THAT THERE IS A

PARTICULARLY HEAVY EMPHASIS ON

A 1930s LITERARY THEORY CALLED

NEW CRITICISM.

IN THAT, YOU WILL FIND THE

GUIDELINES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

CURRICULUM NOT BEING AFFECTED.

THE GUIDE BOOK FOR BEING COMMON

CORE ALIGNED THAT WAS WRITTEN

BY TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE

THE STANDARDS INDICATES THAT

THERE IS GOING TO BE AN

EMPHASIS.

IN FACT IT SAYS IN THERE,

QUOTE, HEAVY PRIORITIES ON THE

COMMON CORE BASED ON THIS NEW

CRITICISM.

I SAW IT IN MY SON'S OWN

TEXTBOOK.

IT WAS NOT GOING TO GET HIM

COLLEGE BOUND.

IT WAS NOT GOING TO PREPARE HIM

FOR COLLEGE.

MS. BENNETT, WHAT DO YOU

CONSIDER MIGHT BE THE LONG TERM

EFFECTS OF USING A SET OF

STANDARDS AND ANNUAL

ASSESSMENTS BASED HEAVILY UPON

ESSENTIALLY ONE LITERARY THEORY

TO THE EXCLUSION OF

APPROXIMATELY 12 OTHER THEORIES

ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF STUDENT

LITERACY, PARTICULARLY THE

COLLEGE-BOUND KIDS WHEN THEY GO

TO COLLEGE AND THE EXPECTATION

IN COLLEGE IS THE ABILITY TO

ADDRESS TEXT IN MULTIPLE WAYS

AND FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES, NOT

ADDRESSED BY THE NEW CRITICISM?

>> THAT IS INTERESTING.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF READING AND

I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO REACT TO THAT?

>> CERTAINLY, THAT IS NEW

INFORMATION FOR ME.

TO YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE

LONG-TERM VISION FOR WHAT

COMMON CORE MEANS FOR OUR KIDS,

I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE

STUDENTS OF LOUISIANA TO RISE

TO THE TOP OF THE NATION IN

TERMS OF OUR EDUCATIONAL

SYSTEM.

I ALSO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

ANNIHILATE POVERTY.

I REALLY THINK BY HOLDING ALL

STUDENTS IN OUR COUNTRY TO

STANDARDS THAT ARE

INTERNATIONALLY BENCHMARK,

LOGICAL IN PROGRESSION AND

THOUGHTFUL IN TERMS OF THEIR

INTENTION TO PREPARE STUDENTS

FOR COLLEGE AND CAREER SUCCESS,

THAT WE CAN TRANSFORM OUR STATE

AND OUR COUNTRY AND OUR

CHILDREN'S LIVES, WHICH IS THE

MOST IMPORTANT THING.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ALSO

DISCUSS THE LITERACY COMPONENT

OF COMMON CORE.

I THINK IT IS REMARKABLE THAT

WE ARE NOW MOVING INTO AN AGE

WHERE WE HAVE A BALANCED

EMPHASIS ON INFORMATIONAL TEXT

AND LITERATURE.

TAKE COMMAND OF THE ENGLISH

LANGUAGE, THEY CAN SPEAK THE

LANGUAGE OF POWER, GOING BACK

TO LISTENING AND SPEAKING

STANDARDS, AND COMPETE GLOBALLY

FOR CAREERS AND THE AMERICAN

DREAM REALLY.

I AM EXCITED ABOUT COMMON CORE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH

IMPLEMENTATION, WE HAVE TO BE

SENSITIVE AND KIND TO ONE

ANOTHER RECOGNIZING THAT THERE

WILL BE MISTAKES MADE ALONG THE

WAY.

COMMON CORE -- IT WILL TAKE

TIME TO GET THIS RIGHT, SO

WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF LAX THE

WAY WE HOLD SCHOOLS

ACCOUNTABLE.

>> TAKE TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.

THAT'S CERTAINLY TRUE.

>> WELL, GO BACK -- TO GO BACK

TO THE QUESTION.

I THINK WHAT BETH WAS REFERRING

TO IS THE IMBALANCE THAT IS

BEING CREATED AND IN THE

CURRICULUM.

ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A SET OF

STANDARDS, IT HAS REACHED OVER

INTO THE CURRICULUM, AND

REQUIRING OR STATING THAT 70%

IN SECONDARY SCHOOLS, I BELIEVE

IT IS 7th, 8th, THROUGH 12th,

ARE TO FOCUS 70% OF THEIR

LITERATURE ON INFORMATIONAL

TEXT AS OPPOSED TO LITERATURE

SAY, FICTION, CLASSICAL

LITERATURE, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THE NEW CRITICISM

FOCUSING -- CLOSED READING.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS TAKE A TEXT

AND IT ASKS THE STUDENT TO

FOCUS ON THAT TEXT WITHOUT

CONSIDERING HISTORICAL CONTEXT

OR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, ALL OF

THOSE, AND TO ANALYZE THAT TEXT

BASED ON THAT.

NOW, THAT IS ONE METHODOLOGY.

AND EVIDENTLY IT DOES HELP

STUDENTS THAT ARE SLOW LEARNERS

OR THAT ARE BEHIND IN THEIR

LEARNING TO GET THEM

JUMPSTARTED.

BUT BY NO MEANS SHOULD BE

FOCUSED ON IF A STUDENT IS --

ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO

COLLEGE AND THEY NEED THE

BACKGROUND OF THAT LITERARY

ANALYSIS.

ELA TEACHERS -- HAVE COMBINED

THEIR STUDY OF CLASSICAL

LITERATURE WITH ALL OF THE

BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND

PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND

HISTORIC AND CULTURAL CONTEXT

THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

PERFECT EXAMPLE "TO KILL A

MOCKINGBIRD."

>>> WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS HERE

AND I WILL GET THEIR OPINIONS

HERE IN A MOMENT.

THAT IS WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO

SHOW YOU HOW YOU GOT TO THE

ANSWER.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE REALLY

TALKING ABOUT IN THE WHOLE MATH

AREA.

YOU HAVE TO SHOW ALL OF THE

STEPS.

ISN'T THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE

WERE LOOKING AT?

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM OVER

HERE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR

ORGANIZATION.

>> KEITH WITH THE ASSOCIATED

PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS OF

LOUISIANA.

I WANTED TO SAY THAT BY

LISTENING TO THE PANEL I'M A

LITTLE DISAPPOINTED.

OUR TEACHERS ARE WORKING SO

HARD, DAY AND NIGHT, LESSON

PLANNING, WRITING THEIR OWN

CURRICULUM, ON THE PANEL, WE

HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE

ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF SOME

SORT OF MYTHICAL FEDERAL

CURRICULUM.

MY QUESTION TO THE PANEL,

SPECIFICALLY REPRESENTATIVE

GEYMANN AND MIS-BENNETT, WHY

HAVE ALL OF THE CATHOLIC

DIOCESE ACCEPTED THE COMMON

CORE AND IMPLEMENTING IT AND

WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT THE SAME

OPPORTUNITIES IN PUBLIC SCHOOL

AS WE HAVE THIS PRIVATE SCHOOL?

>> I WOULD SAY WHY DID THE

PROFESSOR FROM NOTRE DAME, AND

CATHOLIC PROFESSORS ACROSS THE

COUNTRY, HIGH LEVEL

UNIVERSITIES, STANFORD AND SO

FORTH, COME OUT WITH A LETTER

TO CATHOLIC SCHOOLS ASKING THEM

NOT TO GET INTO COMMON CORE,

AND IF YOU ARE IN IT, GET OUT.

IF IF IS WORKING SO GOOD, WHY

DO WE HAVE THIS ISSUE ACROSS

THE NATION WITH THESE CONCERNS.

I WILL TELL YOU WHY BECAUSE IT

IS NOT STATE LED.

YOU DID NOT GET TO HAVE YOUR

INPUT.

WE DID NOT GET TO ADDRESS THESE

ISSUES AND WORK THROUGH THEM

BEFORE WE SIGNED OFF ON THIS

CURRICULUM OR SET OF STANDARDS

DEVELOPED BY TWO NONPROFIT

GROUPS.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

THAT'S WHERE I'M HERE TONIGHT

TO TELL YOU THAT I'M GOING TO

TRY TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE

LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND BRING

IT BACK HERE TO THE STATE WHERE

WE CAN DEAL WITH THE ISSUES.

>> I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE

PROCESS ON THE ADOPTION.

STATE LED INITIATIVE,

GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION, SCHOOL

OFFICERS COORDINATED AND

FACILITATED THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS -- IT WASN'T REQUIRED BY

THE STATE.

STATE BOARD OF ELEMENTARY AND

SECONDARY EDUCATION IN

LOUISIANA IS REQUIRED BY LAW

EVERY SEVEN YEARS TO REVIEW AND

ADOPT AND REFRESH STANDARDS.

AND THAT'S REQUIRED IN STATUTE,

IN LAW.

WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED, THEY

WERE OPEN FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK.

THAT WAS BACK IN MARCH OF 2010,

AND THE EDUCATION ORGANIZATIONS

IN THE STATE, THE LOUISIANA

COUNCIL FOR TEACHERS OF

MATHEMATICS, LOUISIANA COUNCIL

FOR TEACHERS OF ENGLISH, SCHOOL

SUPERINTENDENT'S ASSOCIATIONS,

TEACHER UNION ASSOCIATIONS,

THEY ALL WEIGHED IN ON THE

COMMON CORE STATE STANDARDS AND

WERE EVENTUALLY ADOPTED BY THE

STATE BOARD.

>> THERE WAS NOT A VOTE HELD

PRIOR TO BESSY -- IT WAS

VOLUNTARY -- THERE WAS AN

INCENTIVE FOR US TO DO THIS.

ON THE COVER, IT LOOKS GOOD.

THE POINT IS WE DID IT

WITHOUT -- IT WAS NOT STATE LED

BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE NOT

INVOLVED.

A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE

WERE INVOLVED.

BESSY -- THERE WAS A VOTE

TAKEN -- ALREADY DEVELOPED.

UP UNTIL THAT, BESSY DEVELOPED

ITS OWN SET OF STANDARDS AND

THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK

TO --

>> SEVEN YEARS IS A LONG TIME

THESE DAYS AS I LOOK AT

COMPUTER SOFTWARE.

THEY MAKE ME UPGRADE IT IT

LOOKS LIKE EVERY SIX MONTHS.

IT IS PROBABLY THREE YEARS NOW.

SEVEN YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO

SEE WHETHER SOMETHING WORKS

WELL OR NOT.

ONE THING THAT I -- AS I'VE

READ AND MAYBE YOU ALL REACT TO

IT AND I HAVE A STUDENT HERE,

SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN

ADOPTING IT AND DONE THE

TESTING, EVIDENTLY A LOT OF THE

CHILDREN ARE FAILING AND

PARENTS THEN GET VERY EXCITED

AND COME AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

AND THAT IS A PROBLEM, IS IT

NOT?

>> ANY TIME YOU RAISE

STANDARDS, ACHIEVEMENT WILL

DECLINE.

HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT

NOT AS A DECREASE NECESSARILY

BUT A NEW BASELINE.

WE ARE GETTING A FRESH START

HERE WITH COMMON CORE.

AND OUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO

HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THE

HIGHER STANDARD, ALONG WITH

TEACHERS AND SCHOOL LEADERS AND

OUR COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS

LEADERS AS WELL.

>> WE ARE TALKING THEORY.

HERE IS A STUDENT WHO MIGHT

HAVE TO TAKE SOME TESTS AT SOME

POINT.

WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

>> I'M WALLACE, AND I REPRESENT

THE LEGISLATIVE YOUTH ADVISORY

COUNCIL, AND I ATTEND BETHEL

CHRISTIAN SCHOOL, A JUNIOR.

HOW DOES COMMON CORE AFFECT

CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS,

CONSIDERING THEY HAVE TO TAKE

THE SAME STANDARDIZED TESTS --

ALSO, LIKE THE REPRESENTATIVE

SAID, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG

WITHHOLDING OUR STUDENTS TO A

HIGHER EXPECTATION, BUT SOME

PROBLEMS I -- WE HAVE NOTICED

IS STUDENTS THAT DO NOT EXCEL

AS WELL ARE GOING TO BE LEFT --

WILL THEY BE LEFT BEHIND

BECAUSE OF THIS?

BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS

WITH TEACHERS IN -- THAT HAVE

SAID THAT THEY HAVE NOT GOT

THEIR PROPER TEXTBOOKS AND

CURRICULUM FOR THE COMMON CORE

UNTIL A WEEK BEFORE TEACHING.

AND HOW IS A TEACHER SUPPOSED

TO PROPERLY TRAIN HERSELF A

WEEK BEFORE TEACHING TO MAYBE A

CLASS OF 30 STUDENTS.

>> OKAY.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT?

>> BECAUSE I SPENT FOUR HOURS

TODAY IN ST. TAMMANY WITH

PARENTS FROM THE PARISHES AND

LOCAL LEGISLATORS DISCUSSING

EXACTLY THE PROBLEMS THAT

SPECIAL ED -- SPECIAL NEEDS

STUDENTS ARE FACING, NOT ONLY

WITH COMMON CORE, BUT

PARTICULARLY WITH THE

STANDARDIZE TESTING REGIME THAT

WE HAVE.

IT IS -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS

THE TESTING IS BEING NARROWED

DOWN TO ONE TEST.

WE DID HAVE TWO.

ONE FOR STUDENTS WHO HAD MORE

EXTENSIVE NEEDS THAN OTHERS,

AND NOW IT'S BEING NARROWED

DOWN TO ONE.

AND THESE PARENTS KNOW THEIR

STUDENTS AND THEIR CAPABILITIES

QUITE WELL, THEIR SPECIAL

NEEDS.

A BROAD SPECTRUM OF SPECIAL

NEEDS.

THEY WANT THEIR STUDENTS TO BE

ABLE TO GET A HIGH SCHOOL

DIPLOMA SO THAT THEY CAN

ACTUALLY GO OUT INTO THE WORLD

AND BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS.

AND THEY HAVE THIS -- BECAUSE

OF THE STANDARDIZED TESTS AND

INABILITY OF THEIR STUDENTS TO

PASS IT THAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE

TO ACHIEVE THAT DIPLOMA.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU

KNOW, WE WANT ALL STUDENTS TO

HAVE ACCESS TO A HIGH SCHOOL

DIPLOMA.

AND RELATIVE TO THE TESTING,

YOU KNOW, STUDENTS HAVE

INDIVIDUAL EDUCATION PLANS,

IEPs, WHERE ACCOMMODATIONS ARE

MET.

THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE

ASSESSMENT FOR STUDENTS WITH

SEVERE COGNITIVE DISABILDISABILITIES,

AND THE LOUISIANA ALTERNATIVE

ASSESSMENT.

THERE ARE MEASURES IN PLACE FOR

STUDENTS WHO NEED AN

ACCOMMODATION THAT CAN'T TAKE

THE EXAM.

>> OVER TO YOU.

>> A QUESTION FROM SOMEONE WHO

CAME EARLY AND GOT IN THE FRONT

ROW SO THAT SHE CAN ASK THIS.

>> I AM AN EDUCATOR, AND I'M

SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

BUT I DID TALK WITH SOME

COWORKERS BEFORE I LEFT.

THE CONCERN IS, OF COURSE,

WASHINGTON POST POSTED IN

NOVEMBER, THAT MASSACHUSETTS

AND LOUISIANA, WE ALL DISCUSSED

THAT ALREADY, AND SO IF WE'RE

DELAYING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT

REALLY READY YET, WHEN, HOW,

AND WHERE WILL YOU TRAIN OUR

TEACHERS TO BE READY?

AS THE YOUNG MAN SAID, HIGH

SCHOOL STUDENT THAT IS A

JUNIOR.

HOW WILL THE TEACHERS BE

PREPARED?

I MEAN, FROM ONE DAY TO THE

NEXT THINGS CHANGE, ESPECIALLY

IN -- WE WANT TO KNOW WHETHER

YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT,

BECAUSE IT GREATLY AFFECTS

INSTRUCTION AND WE'RE DOING ALL

THAT WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

>> SO, LET ME TAKE THAT

QUESTION.

SO, WE HAVE BEEN TRAINING AND

WE HAVE BEEN TRAINING SINCE

2010 WHEN THE STANDARDS WERE

ADOPTED.

AND THERE WAS, AT FIRST, THERE

WAS A TRANSITIONAL CURRICULUM

THAT CAME OUT THAT TOOK THE OLD

STANDARDS AND TRANSITIONED TO

THE COMMON CORE STATE

STANDARDS.

DEPARTMENT REALIGNED ITSELF

INTO NETWORK TEAMS AND THERE

ARE NETWORK TEAMS THAT ARE

SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS

THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD.

AND, THIRD, MS. BENNETT IS A

MEMBER OF ONE OF THESE, AND

THAT IS OUR TEACHER LEADERS.

WE HAVE IN STATE OVER 2,000

TEACHERS, ONE REPRESENTING EACH

SCHOOL SITE IN THE STATE THAT

HAS ATTENDED FOUR-DAY TRAINING

SESSIONS AND THEN THEY GET

MONTHLY FOLLOW-UP FROM THE --

FROM THE DEPARTMENT, FROM THE

NETWORKING, AND THESE ARE OUR

TEACHER LEADERS IN THE SCHOOL

CYST TRIM RIGHT NOW.

WE PROVIDED A TEACHER SUPPORT

TOOLBOX, WHICH HAS BEEN

DEVELOPED.

IT'S RESOURCES AND THINGS TO

ENHANCE THE CURRICULUM, WHICH

LOCAL DISTRICTS DEVELOP FOR THE

COMMON CORE STATE STANDARDS ON

THE DEPARTMENT WEB SITE THAT IS

CONTINUALLY BEING UPDATED AND

ENHANCED.

AND MAYBE MS. BENNETT WANTS TO

SPEAK ABOUT THAT, HOW THE

TEACHERS IN YOUR SCHOOL ARE

LEARNING THE COMMON CORE STATE

STANDARDS.

>> CERTAINLY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION SO

MUCH.

I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THE

PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY THAT

COMMON CORE PROVIDES IN GIVING

DISTRICTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO

SHAPE THE EDUCATIONAL

EXPERIENCE FOR THEIR STATES AND

COMMUNITY.

I HAVE BEEN TRAINED WITH OTHER

TEACHER LEADERS ACROSS THE

STATE DIRECTLY BY STATE IN

TERMS OF THEIR VISION FOR

COMMON CORE AND I HAVE TANGIBLE

THINGS THAT I CAN TAKE BACK TO

MY SCHOOL.

MY DISTRICT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB

AT ACTIVAING TEACHER LEADERS,

AND PUTTING THEM IN POSITIONS

TO TRAIN THEIR COLLEAGUES.

A -- IN CLASSROOM SUPPORT.

IT IS A TRANSFORMATIVE WAY OF

THINKING ABOUT EDUCATION, AND

OUR STATES IS DOING A

TREMENDOUS JOB PROVIDING

GUIDANCE ON THE WEB SITE AND

PRACTITIONERS IN THE FIELD ARE

ELEVATING AND RISING TO THE

CHALLENGE AND SUPPORTING EACH

OTHER.

>> I WOULD SAY THERE ARE A LOT

OF PEOPLE AS WE SAW IN THE

SURVEY BEFORE THAT DON'T FEEL

LIKE THEY HAVE ENOUGH

INFORMATION.

BECAUSE TEACHERS MAY BE GETTING

SOME INFORMATION, BUT

PARENTS -- YOUR QUESTION IS

ABOUT PARENTS.

>> RIGHT.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF AN

OUTREACH PROGRAM -- ALSO A PART

OF EXXON MOBIL DIALOGUE GROUP.

MY QUESTION IS WE TALKED ABOUT

KIDS IN THE CURRICULUM.

WE TALKED ABOUT TEACHERS IN THE

CURRICULUM AND HOW THEY ARE

LEARNING AND SOME OF THEM ARE

NOT, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE THE

RESEARCH WITH MY PEOPLE, AND

ALSO I HAVE SOME EDUCATORS IN

MY CHURCH.

THEY DO THE SAME THING.

MY THING IS, ALL OF THOSE

PEOPLE GETTING MOST OF THE

INFORMATION OF WHAT HAPPENED TO

THEIR PARENTS, BECAUSE THEIR

PARENTS IS THE ONE AT HOME THAT

HAS TO HELP THE KIDS WHEN THEY

COME HOME WITH THE SAME

CURRICULUM -- A LOT OF THEM

DON'T KNOW, CLUELESS.

WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FOR THE

PARENTS TO LEARN?

>> OKAY.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT

ONE?

PARENT INFORMATION.

>> SURE, THAT'S A GREAT

QUESTION.

>> GREAT QUESTION.

>> AND IN MY SCHOOL, WE HAVE

HAD SEVERAL FAMILY NIGHTS, AND

SO WE OPEN OUR DOORS TO THE

COMMUNITY TO INVITE THEM IN TO

SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE

CLASSROOM TO EDUCATE THEM ON

OUR STANDARDS AND OUR NEW

EXPECTATIONS FOR STUDENT

ACHIEVEMENT.

WE HAVE A VERY OPEN DOOR

POLICY.

I THINK THAT MORE CERTAINLY

COULD BE DONE.

I KNOW THAT STANFORD CHILDREN

IS LAUNCHING UNIVERSITY FOR

PARENTS, AN EXCELLENT

OPPORTUNITY FOR PARENTS TO

BECOME ENGAGED AND LEARN HOW TO

SUPPORT THEIR CHILD AT HOME

WHICH I THINK IS POWERFUL.

BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT,

AND I'M GLAD THAT THIS DIALOGUE

IS HAPPENING.

IT IS LIKE A TWO-WAY STREET TO

RE-ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN THIS

PROCESS.

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM

SOMEONE WITH THE CANE CENTER.

>> BRENDA NIXON, AND I AM A

FORMER CLASSROOM TEACHER.

I HAVE BEEN IN THE TRENCHES

WITH EVERYONE THAT IS INVOLVED

HERE AS WELL.

WE ARE RUNNING RIGHT NOW A

PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT

PROGRAM, MATH SCIENCE

PARTNERSHIP.

AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT LOOKING AT

PREPARING OUR TEACHERS -- WE

HAD A THIRD AND FOURTH GRADE

GRANT FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT

OF EDUCATION, AS WELL AS AN

EIGHTH GRADE GRANT TO PROVIDE A

PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THIS

SUMMER.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT WAS

LIFE-CHANGING FOR ME.

I HAVE SEEN A TRANSFORMATION IN

OUR TEACHERS THAT TOOK PLACE IN

THE SUMMER AND WHEN THEY WENT

BACK IN THE CLASSROOM AND BEGAN

TO IMPLEMENT AND REALLY

UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT.

HOW CAN WE REALLY PROVIDE

TEACHERS WITH THE TOOLS THAT

THEY NEED TO IMPLEMENT THIS

PROGRAM CORRECTLY AND THESE

STANDARDS CORRECTLY?

>> IMPLEMENTATION -- MS.

BARRIOS.

>> SEVERAL THINGS.

AND ONE OF THE HUGE PROBLEMS

WITH COMMON CORE WAS THE

IMPLEMENTATION.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY,

INCLUDING THE DEPARTMENT OF ED,

SEES THAT NOW WHICH IS WHY THEY

PULLED BACK A LITTLE BIT.

BUT TEACHERS -- FIRST OF ALL,

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CURRICULUM

IN ORDER TO TEACH YOUR

CURRICULUM.

IN ST. TAMMANY PARISH, I KNOW

THAT THE TEACHERS HAVE BEEN

WORKING TO KEEP UP FROM MONTH

TO MONTH IN DEVELOPING THAT

CURRICULUM ALIGNED WITH THE

COMMON CORE.

BECAUSE IT WAS PUSHED UP A

YEAR.

IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FULLY

INSTITUTED UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND

IT WAS PUSHED UP A YEAR.

ALSO PARENTS NEED TO BE A PART

OF THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, TEACHERS NEED

TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE AN

ESTABLISHED CURRICULUM BEFORE

THEY CAN DO THAT WITH PARENTS.

SO, THE STATE DEPARTMENT RATHER

THAN PROVIDING THE TEACHERS

WITH WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED,

IT REALLY NEEDS TO WORK THE

OTHER WAY.

TEACHERS NEED TO BE BROUGHT

INTO THAT PROCESS MORE, AND

THEY NEED TO BE -- TO DISCUSS

WHAT STUDENT NEEDS ARE.

I THINK ONE OF THE -- I'M NOT A

MATH TEACHER.

BUT I HEAR UNIVERSALLY FROM

EARLY EDUCATION MATH TEACHERS

THAT ONE OF THE HUGE PROBLEMS

WITH THE NEW COMMON CORE MATH

AND THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED,

EARLY CHILDHOOD, YOUNGER

STUDENTS, AND THAT EXPECTING

HEM TO BEGIN THE ALGEABRIC

CONCEPTS EARLY, FRUSTRATING TO

THE STUDENTS WHO DON'T THINK

ABSTRACTLY AND IT REQUIRES

ABSTRACT THINKING.

THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT

EDUCATORS NEED TO INPUT --

>> THE DEPARTMENT WOULD AGREE

WITH MS. BARRIOS THAT WE NEED

TEACHER-DRIVEN RESOURCES AND

NOT DEPARTMENT-DRIVEN

RESOURCES.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN

DOING.

WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES TO

TEACHERS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY

LOUISIANA TEACHERS.

>> AND WE HOPE ALSO THAT

PARENTS WILL LEARN SOME MORE

FROM TONIGHT'S PROGRAM,

CERTAINLY.

IF THEY DIDN'T GET THE WHOLE

ANSWER.

THERE IS LOTS OF INFORMATION ON

THE WEB SITE AS WELL, AND LPB

WILL BE COVERING SOME MORE.

THAT IS ALL OF THE TIME THAT WE

HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR

PROGRAM.

KIRBY, THANK YOU FOR COHOSTING.

I WANT TO THANK OUR PANELISTS,

MR. MILLER, MS. BARRIOS,

MR. BRANFORD, REPRESENTATIVE

GEYMANN, AND MS. BENNETT.

lpb.org/PUBLIC SQUARE, TAKE THE

SURVEY, LOOK FOR COMMON CORE

RESOURCES, AND COMMENT ON

TONIGHT'S SHOW.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

AND KIRBY, TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING A

GREAT AUDIENCE.

TUNE IN NEXT MONTH AS LOUISIANA

PUBLIC SQUARE EXPLORES ENERGY'S

ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY.

>> GOOD NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

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