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>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO

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"LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE," I'M

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BETH COURTNEY, PRESIDENT OF

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LOUISIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING.

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>> AND I'M KIRBY GOIDEL,

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PRESIDENT 6 POLITICAL SCIENCE

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AND MASS COMMUNICATION AT LSU.

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A BIG PUSH BY GOVERNOR BOBBY

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JINDAL SINCE ENTERING OFFICE HAS

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BEEN THE PRIVATIZATION OF STATE

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GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS WHICH HE

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SAYS WILL SAVE MONEY OF THE

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ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE STATE HAS

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CONTRACTED WITH OUTSIDE

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PROVIDERS FOR PROFESSIONAL,

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PERSONAL AND CONSULTING

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SERVICES.

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>> CURRENTLY LOSE HAS NEARLY

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13,000 ACTIVE CONTRACTS, THE

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MAJORITY FOR $50,000 OR MORE.

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A PROPOSED BILL WOULD REDUCE

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SPENDING ON STATE CONTRACTS BY

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10%.

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THE JINDAL ADMINISTRATION SAYS

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THE AMOUNT THAT LOUISIANA

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CONTRACTS FOR IS ALREADY BEING

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REDUCED AND SOME OF THE BIGGEST

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CONTRACTS ARE FOR ESSENTIAL

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SERVICES SUCH AS THE

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ADMINISTRATION OF HEALTH

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INSURANCE OR DRUG PRESCRIPTION

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PROGRAMS.

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HOW NECESSARY ARE THE MAJORITY

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OF STATE CONTRACTS?

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ARE THEY COST-EFFECTIVE?

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AND ARE THERE CERTAIN GOVERNMENT

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SERVICES THAT SHOULD NOT BE

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PRIVATIZED?

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TONIGHT "LOUISIANA PUBLIC

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SQUARE" LOOKS FOR ANSWERS ON

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"STATE CONTRACTS 101".

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>> SOON AFTER THE NUTRITIONAL

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SERVICE FOR THE SOUTHEAST

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LOUISIANA HOSPITAL IN JACKSON

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WERE PRIVATIZED, STATE

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REPRESENTATIVE KENNETH HAVARD

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BEGAN RECEIVING COMPLAINTS FROM

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PATIENTS' FAMILY MEMBERS.

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THE CONCERNS WERE ABOUT THE

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PENNSYLVANIA COMPANY PROVIDING

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MEALS FOR THE HOSPITAL AND A

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NURSING HOME, BOTH IN HAVARD'S

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DISTRICT.

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>> THEY RAN OUT OF FOOD 93

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TIMES.

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THEY BOUGHT HAMBURGERS FROM

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McDONALD'S.

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THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE, GERIATRIC

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PATIENTS TAKING MEDICINE AND

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IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR

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THEM TO HAVE THE RIGHT NUTRITION

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TO THEIR MEDICINES WORK.

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>> THE COMPANY HAS NOT MET

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PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND IS

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STILL BEING PAID.

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THEY NOW RECEIVE OVERSIGHT FROM

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STATE EMPLOYEES.

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>> NOW WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THE

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STATE WORKERS COMING IN EARLY IN

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THE MORNING TO WATCH OVER AND

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REVIEW WHAT A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR

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WAS SUPPOSED TO DO TO BEGIN

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WITH.

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>> THIS SESSION HAVARD IS

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RESPONSIVING HOUSE BILL 127 THE

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LAW WOULD REQUIRE A

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COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW BY THE

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LEGISLATURE AND NAL ASSESS BY

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THE LEGISLATIVE AUDITOR'S OFFICE

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BEFORE THE TROUBLE OF STATE

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CONTRACTS WORTH MORE THAN $5

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MILLION.

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HAVARD HAS CONCERNED WITH

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CONTRACTS SUCH AS THE

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PRIVATIZATION OF THE STATE'S

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CHARITY HOSPITAL, WHICH WAS

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APPROVED WITHOUT PARTICIPATION.

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>> I WAS ELECTED AND 104 OTHER

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ONES IN THE HOUSE WAS ELECTED TO

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BE THE PEOPLE'S LOBBYISTS.

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WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR

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MONEY AT THE END OF THE DAY AND

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WE SHOULD HAVE A STAY IN THESE

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CONTRACTS.

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>> DON GREGORY IS STATE DIRECTOR

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AND ANALYST FOR THE PUBLIC

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AFFAIRS RESEARCH COUNCIL OR PAR.

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HE COAUTHORED A REPORT FOR PAR

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ABOUT THE PRIVATIZATION OF THE

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LOUISIANA CHARITY HOSPITAL

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SYSTEM.

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AMONG THE ISSUES WAS THE

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SUSTAINABILITY OF THE FUNDING

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STREAM.

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>> WE TRIED TO FOLLOW THE MONEY

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THEY WERE INVESTING IN THE NEW

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PARTNERSHIP HOSPITALS.

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ABOUT HALF OF THAT MONEY IS

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FEDERAL MONEY THAT COMES FROM

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UNCOMPENSATED CARE FOR PEOPLE

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THAT ARE UNINSURED.

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WE ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE JIM

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OBERSTAR CALLS FOR FOR AN $18

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BILLION REDUCTION IN THAT SOURCE

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OF FUNDING BETWEEN NOW AND 2020.

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>> SOME OF THE CONTRACTS DO NOT

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HAVE SPENDING CAPS ON THEM WHICH

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WILL LEAVE THE TAXPAYER ON THE

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HOOK FOR OVERRUNS.

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>> THEY BUDGETED FOR THOSE

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HOSPITALS FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL

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YEAR.

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IF THEY EXCEED IN THAT COSTS THE

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STATE IS OBLIGATED TO MAKE UP

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THOSE COSTS.

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>> HAVARD SAYS WHILE IT COSTS

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$100 MILLION TO RUN THE EARL K.

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LONG HOSPITAL IN BATON ROUGE IN

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12, COSTS HAVE CONTINUES TO

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CLIMB SINCE THE CONTRACT WITH

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THE HOSPITAL WERE SIGNED.

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>> THE YEAR BEFORE THAT IT WAS

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$138 MILLION, THIS YEAR

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PROJECTED AT $169 MILLION.

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THAT'S A 68.MINE% INCREASE.

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>> THE FISCAL OFFICE SAID THERE

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COULD BE A SHORTFALL RELATED TO

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HOSPITAL AND RETIREE BENEFIT

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COSTS FOR WHICH THE STATE WILL

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BE RESPONSIBLE.

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EARLIER THIS MONTH THE CENTERS

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FOR MEDICARE AND MEDICAID

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SERVICES TOLD STATE OFFICIALS IT

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WOULD NOT PAY $307 MILLION

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WWW.FIRST CONSULTING.

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>> THE REMAINDER, WE'RE NOT

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NEGOTIATING HARD ENOUGH TO GET A

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GOOD ENOUGH DEAL FOR TAXPAYERS.

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>> FOR LOUISIANA TREASURER JOHN

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KENNEDY, IT'S NOT THE

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PRIVATIZATION CONTRACTS BUT THE

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CONSULTING ONES THAT GIVE HIM

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PAUSE.

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>> WE SHOULDN'T USE EITHER THE

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PUBLIC OR THE PRIVATE SECT TORE

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HIRE SOMEBODY FOR $70,000 A YEAR

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TO GO AROUND RAPIDS PARISH TO

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URGE OUR HISPANIC NEIGHBORS TO

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WEAR THEIR SEAT BELTS.

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THEY SHOULDN'T BE SPONSORING

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GOLDEN GLOVE BOXING TOURNAMENTS.

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THEY SAY IT'S FOR OBESITY.

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WE'VE ALREADY GOT PROGRAMS FOR

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OBESITY.

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IT'S CALLED P.E.

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>> ACCORDING TO THE DIVISION OF

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ADMINISTRATION, LOUISIANA IS

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CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN NEARLY

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13,000 ACTIVE CONTRACTS WITH

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MORE THAN HALF OF THEM FOR

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$50,000 OR GREATER.

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HOUSE BILL 142 SPONSORED THIS

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SESSION BY REPRESENTATIVE

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DERICHARD WOULD REDUCE SPENDING

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BY 15% AND DEVOTE THE SAVINGS TO

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HIGHER ED.

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>> WE SPEND ABOUT $6 BILLION A

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YEAR IN STATE CONSULTING

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CONTRACTS.

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THIS YEAR 10%, IF IT PASSES IT'S

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GOING TO SAY YOU CUT 10% OF LAST

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YEAR'S DOLLAR FIGURE, ROUGHLY $6

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BILLION.

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>> ADMINISTRATION COMMISSIONER

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CHRISTY NICHOLS TESTIFIED.

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>> THIS APPROACH DOES NOT LEND

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ITSELF TO GOOD GOVERNMENT.

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THIS IS AN ARBITRARY APPROACH TO

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PUTTING IN A PLUG YOU DON'T KNOW

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WILL HAVE ANY VALUE AT ALL.

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>> KEN NAQUIN SAYS THE BILL

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WOULDN'T BE NEEDED IF GOVERNOR

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JINDAL RANDOM STATE GOVERNMENT

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LIKE A BUSINESS.

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>> JUST IMAGINE WHAT WOULD

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HAPPEN IF THE GOVERNOR WROTE ALL

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13,000 -- I THINK THE FIGURE'S

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HIGHER -- OF OUR CONSULTANTS AND

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SAID, TIMES ARE TOUGH IN

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LOUISIANA, WE NEED MONEY FOR

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HIGHER EDUCATION.

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WE WANT YOU TO REDUCE YOUR

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CONTRACT THIS YEAR BY 10%, 5%,

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3%, OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING BID IT

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OUT AGAIN.

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THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SAY NO.

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THEY ARE GOING TO MOAN AND GROWN

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AND DO IT.

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IN THIS ECONOMY?

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THEY ARE GOING WALK AWAY FROM A

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CONSULTING CONTRACT BECAUSE

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WE'VE ASKED FOR A MODEST

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DISCOUNT?

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>> WHILE HE HAS CONCERNS WITH

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PARTS OF BOTH HAVARD'S AND

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RICHARD'S LEGISLATION, ROBERT

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TRAVIS SCOTT SUPPORTS ANY

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EFFORTS THAT MAKE THE PROCESS

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MORE TRANSPARENT FOR ITS

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CITIZENS.

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>> STATE CONTRACTING IS A BIG

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PART OF PUBLIC SPENDING AND A

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BIG PART OF TAXPAYER SPENDING.

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LET'S KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND

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WHY.

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>> JOINING ME IN OUR STUDIO

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AUTOPSIES TO EXPLORE THE STATE

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CONTRACTING PROCESS ARE

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RESIDENTS FROM THE GREATER BATON

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ROUGE AREA, INCLUDING RETIRED

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STATE EMPLOYEES, MEMBERS OF THE

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LEGISLATIVE YOUTH ADVISORY

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COUNCIL AND BUSINESS OWNERS.

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WELCOME, EVERYONE.

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LSU'S PUBLIC POLICY RESEARCH LAB

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SURVEYED OVER 150 CITIZENS ON

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TONIGHT'S TOPIC.

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HERE'S A LOOK AT SOME OF THE

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RESPONSES.

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WHEN ASKED ABOUT WHO THEY THINK

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PROVIDES SERVICES IN A MORE

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TIMELY AND HIGH QUALITY MANNER,

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48% OF RESPONDENTS SAID PRIVATE

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EMPLOYEES HIRED BY PAID

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CONTRACTORS.

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30% SAID STATE GOVERNMENT

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EMPLOYEES.

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AND 22% WERE UNSURE.

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WHEN ASKED IF THE CHARITY

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HOSPITALS IN LOUISIANA SHOULD BE

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RUN BY THE STATE OR BY PRIVATE

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COMPANIES, RESIDENTS WERE

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DIVIDED.

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44% SURVEYED FAVORED THE STATE

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RUNNING THEM, 41% WOULD PREFER

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PRIVATE COMPANIES RUNNING THEM,

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AND 15% EITHER REFUSED OR WERE

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UNSURE.

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ASKED THEIR OPINION ON CURRENT

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LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REDUCE

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PRIVATE CONTRACTS BY 10%, 46% OF

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RESPONDENTS SUPPORT THE

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LEGISLATION, 31% OPPOSE IT, AND

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23% WERE UNSURE.

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AND WHEN ASKED IF THE STATE

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SAVES MONEY, SPEND MORE MONEY OR

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THE COSTS REMAIN ABOUT THE SAME

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WHEN THE STATE CONTRACTS OUT

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STATE SERVICES TO PRIVATE

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COMPANIES, 40% OF THOSE SURVEYED

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IT THIS STATE SPENDS MORE MONEY,

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WHILE EQUAL PERCENTAGES, 24%,

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SAY EITHER THE STATE SAVES MONEY

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OR THAT IT COSTS ABOUT THE SAME.

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13% WERE UNSURE.

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SO LET'S START THERE.

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IS CONTRACTING OUT STATE

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SERVICES A GOOD IDEA?

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OR A BAD IDEA?

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WHO WANTS TO START?

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>> I'LL START IT.

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I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE

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CONTRACT.

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I REPRESENT 140 CONSULTING

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ENGINEERS.

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A LOT OF OUR WORK IS CONTRACTED

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WITH THE STATE, EITHER THROUGH

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THE DEPARTMENT OF

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TRANSPORTATION, CPRA, FACILITY

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PLANNING.

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THOSE ORGANIZES AREN'T LARGE

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ENOUGH TO DO THE WORK THEY HIRE

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OUR PEOPLE TO DO.

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>> SO IT DEPENDS SPECIFICALLY ON

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THE CONTRACT BUT THERE'S NOT A

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GOOD OR A BAD HERE, IT DEPENDS

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ON PARTICULAR SERVICE?

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DO OTHER PEOPLE AGREE WITH THAT?

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>> TREY.

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AUTO AIM PROPONENT OF FINDING A

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GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN CONTRACTS

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AND PRIVATE COMPANIES AND THEN

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GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS.

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I THINK BOTH CAN BE BENEFICIAL

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DEPENDING ON THE SCENARIO.

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ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU RUN INTO

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IS WHEN PRIVATE COMPANIES CAN'T

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REACH THE STANDARDS GOVERNMENT

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ORGANIZATIONS CAN.

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MY DAD IS A ASSISTANT PUBLICTORY

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HERE IN BATON ROUGE.

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WHEN HE'S TRYING TO FIND

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REHABILITATION FROST TROUBLED

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TEENS, WHILE ONE ORGANIZATION

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MAY HELP A KID WITH DRUG ABUSE

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PROBLEMS, THEY WON'T ALSO HELP

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THE KID WITH MENTAL PROBLEMS

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FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THE

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HOUSEHOLD.

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THEY HAVE TO FIND LIKE ANOTHER

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PRIVATE COMPANY, WHICH JUST

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TAKES MORE TIME AND MONEY.

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IF WE ARE GOING TO INVEST INTO

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THESE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS,

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THEY NEED TO REACH THE SAME

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STANDARDS THAT GOVERNMENT

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ORGANIZATIONS WOULD SLIGHT

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PEOPLE WITH.

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>> YOU THINK GOVERNMENT IS

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PROVIDING A HIGHER QUALITY OF

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SERVICE, AT LEAST IN SOME CASES

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AND ON SOME SERVICES?

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>> IT'S ABOUT BALANCE.

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>> WILLIAM.

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>> YES, I THINK SOME OF THE

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AREAS SUCH AS CORRECTIONAL AND

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PROBEBATIONAL INSTITUTIONS

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SHOULD NOT BE RUN PRIVATELY,

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SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING

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THE PERSON'S RIGHTS IN JEOPARDY.

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I MEAN, THEY HAVE BEEN -- THEY

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ARE IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND

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THEY DESERVE THE STATE AND THEY

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DESERVE PEOPLE'S REPRESENTATIVES

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RUNNING THAT.

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THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TERRIBLE

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CASES IN THE SOUTH IN GENERAL,

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THANK GOODNESS LOUISIANA HASN'T

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YET JUMPED INTO THAT, BUT THERE

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HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE THROWN IN

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JAIL AND FINED HEAVY FINES FOR

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TRAFFIC TICKETS AND ENDING UP

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YEARS IN JAIL.

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IT'S BECOME AN EXTORTION RACKET.

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THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS AND THAT'S

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ONE THAT GIVES ME A REAL

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PROBLEM.

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>> DOES ANYBODY BELIEVE PRIVATE

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INDUSTRY CAN DO A BETTER JOB IN

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PROVIDING SERVICES?

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>> I DON'T THINK THEY CAN DO

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100%.

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EVERYONE IS PRETTY SPLIT.

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SOME THINGS ARE BETTER BY

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PRIVATE COMPANIES, PRIVATE

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COMPANIES AND SOME ARE BETTER

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WITH THE GOVERNMENT.

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I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO

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FIN 100% IN EITHER CORNER.

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>> I THINK SOMETHING WE SHOULD

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PROBABLY KEEP IN MIND, HOW IT

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AFFECTS STATE EMPLOYEES.

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I WAS A STATE EMPLOYEE BEFORE

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FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, I KNOW I

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WAS EMPLOYED BY EARL K. LONG

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BEFORE THEY KIND OF WENT

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DEFUNDAMENT.

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FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHEN YOU'RE

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TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE

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BETWEEN PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC,

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KEEP IN MIND HOW IT AFFECTS

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THOSE EMPLOYEES, OF COURSE.

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>> AND ESPECIALLY FROM YOUR

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PERSPECTIVE, THE PUBLIC

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EMPLOYEES.

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>> OF COURSE, NO DOUBT ABOUT

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THAT.

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>> JOHN.

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>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY

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HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED

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ADEQUATELY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING

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ABOUT THE PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC

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DEBATE, IS THE FACT YOU HAVE TO

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HAVE SOME KIND OF AN OVERSIGHT.

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BECAUSE HAVE YOU AN EXTERNAL

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PARTY PERFORMING THE SERVICES

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DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN BE LEFT

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ALONE.

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THEY HAVE TO HAVE STANDARDS,

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EXPECTATIONS AND SO FORTH BUILT

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INTO THE CONTRACT.

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>> NOW, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE

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ARE ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS TO MAKE

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SURE THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY IN

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THE SYSTEM?

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JOHN.

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>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S

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ADEQUATE -- NEARLY ENOUGH

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OVERSIGHT.

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THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AND

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TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHY

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THERE'S A HOUSE BILL ON THE

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FLOOR.

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WHETHER YOU CAN CONTINUE CAN

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PRIVATIZATION OR STICK WITH MORE

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STATE JOBS AND CONTRACT FROM

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WITHIN, WE NEED OVERSIGHT FOR

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BOTH OF THOSE, IT'S VERY

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IMPORTANT.

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>> TY.

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>> I HAVE SOME DOUBT ABOUT THAT,

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I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH

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OVERSIGHT.

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IF YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENTAL

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CONTRACT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT

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ISSUING, IT IS OF COURSE

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REVIEWED BY WHATEVER DEPARTMENT

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IT MAY BE COMING OUT OF.

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IT'S SENT TO CIVIL SERVICE FOR

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FURTHER REVIEW, BECAUSE IT MAY

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AFFECT THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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EMPLOYED IN WHAT I CONSIDER TO

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BE AN ALREADY BURGEONING

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BUREAUCRACY, AND THE WHOLE

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PURPOSE OF PRIVATIZATION THERE

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WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE TO REDUCE

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THAT BUREAUCRACY.

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IN MANY ACCOUNTS OR MANY

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SITUATIONS IT BECOMES

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UNACCOUNTABLE.

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INSTEAD OF BEING GOVERNED BY

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THOSE WE SELECT, WE'RE GOVERN

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BESIDE NAMELESS, FACELESS

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BUREAUCRACIES THAT HAVE NO

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REALLY ACCOUNTABILITY

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THEMSELVES, BUT ARE REVIEWING

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THE PRIVATE CONTRACTS TO MAKE

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SURE THEIR NEST DOESN'T GET

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UNFETTERED.

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I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT.

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>> YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT

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ACCOUNTABILITY BUT ALSO THE FACT

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THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE

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BUREAUCRACY, BUT THE REVIEW

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PROCESS ENDS UP WITH MORE

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BUREAUCRACY.

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>> PRECISELY.

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YOU'VE GOT A BALANCE THERE, YOU

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BROUGHT IT UP.

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CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE POLICY

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DECISIONS WHICH CONSTITUTIONALLY

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THE JUDICIARY IS PART OF THAT

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SYSTEM.

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SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, FOR

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EXAMPLE DRUG TESTING, THAT COULD

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BE PRIVATIZED WITHOUT ANY

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PROBLEM AT ALL.

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HOWEVER, THE POLICY PART BECOMES

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A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STICKY

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WICK KET BECAUSE YOU WANT TO

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MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE

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RIGHT PERSONAL, THE RIGHT

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TRAINED PERSONNEL IN ORDER TO

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KEEP THE PRISON POPULATION.

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AS EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ALREADY

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HAVE MORE PRISONERS THAN ANY OR

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STATE IN THE UNION.

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>> MICHAEL IS READY TO JUMP IN.

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>> JOHN, WE CERTAINLY NEED --

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ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, IF WE

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HAVE THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES,

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WHO IS ESTABLISHING THE

15:40.000 --> 15:41.133
PERFORMANCE MEASURES?

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AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY,

15:42.567 --> 15:45.600
WHO IS ENFORCING THE PERFORMANCE

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MEASURES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE

15:47.800 --> 15:49.633
JUST SAW ON THE INTRO PIECE WHAT

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HAS HAPPENED AT JACKSON AND IN

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SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA MENTAL

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HOSPITAL.

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ARE WE FINDING THEM IN THAT

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ASPECT.

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AND I AGREE THAT WE DON'T WANT

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TO GET INTO AN ASPECT WHERE

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WE'VE CREATED SO MUCH BUYER

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REVOKE CRACY THAT WE'RE TYRONN

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LUE COSTING OURSELVES MONEY.

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YOU, AND YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR

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HEAD.

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DO YOU AGREE?

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>> I AGREE ON SOME ASPECTS.

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THE ISSUE IS THE WASTE.

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I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE

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SOME OVERSIGHT, ESPECIALLY BY

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OUR STATE GOVERNMENT, BUT LIKE

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WHAT TY SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO

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CREATE THIS BUREAUCRACY WHERE IT

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TAKES SO MUCH TIME AND THE

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GOVERNMENT BECOMES TOO LARGE.

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BUT AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT OF

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THIS WITH AS TO REDUCE WASTE.

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WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE LIKE HE

16:42.633 --> 16:44.667
MENTIONED IN SOUTHEAST WITH

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JACKSON AND THE MENTAL HOSPITAL.

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IT'S DEPLORABLE THAT WE'RE

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HAVING TO HAVE FOOD BROUGHT IN

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FROM McDONALD'S.

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>> DO PEOPLE GENERALLY AGREE

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THERE'S MORE WASTE WITH THE

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GOVERNMENT CONTRACTING?

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>> AGAIN, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON

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THE CONTRACT.

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USUALLY THERE'S 13,000 CONTRACTS

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OUT THERE TODAY.

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WELL, YOU ONLY SHOWED A HANDFUL

17:07.767 --> 17:10.100
OF THEM THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC.

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IF YOU WENT THROUGH 13,000 OF

17:12.100 --> 17:15.333
THEM, HOW MANY ARE REALLY

17:15.333 --> 17:16.000
PROBLEMATIC?

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IT PROBABLY ISN'T THAT MANY.

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THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF GOOD

17:18.633 --> 17:20.633
CONTRACTS OUT THERE THAT ARE

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WORKING AND WORKING THE WAY THEY

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SHOULD.

17:23.033 --> 17:25.233
PEOPLE LIKE TO POINT TO THE FEW

17:25.233 --> 17:28.300
BAD APPEARS AND SAY, LOOK, THIS

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IS HOW THE WHOLE CYCLE IS.

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IT'S A FEW AND GO TAKE CARE OF

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THOSE FEW.

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>> THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE

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FOR THIS PORTION OF OUR SHOW.

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WHEN WE RETURN WE WILL BE JOINED

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BY A PANEL THE EXPERTS TO

17:40.000 --> 17:41.367
FURTHER EXPLODE "STATE CONTRACTS

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101".

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>>> WELCOME BACK TO "LOUISIANA

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PUBLIC SQUARE."

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TONIGHT WE'RE DISCUSSING "STATE

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CONTRACTS 101".

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JOINING US NOW IS OUR PANEL OF

17:59.567 --> 17:59.967
EXPERTS.

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JOHN KENNEDY IS LOUISIANA STATE

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TREASURER, A POSITION HE HAS

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HELD SINCE 2011.

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AS TREASURER HE OVERSEES THE

18:08.933 --> 18:13.067
STATE'S $10.6 BILLION

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ININVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS.

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142 CALLS FOR A 10% REDUCTION OF

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STATE CONTRACTS WITH THE SAVINGS

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DIRECTED TOWARDS THE STATE'S

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HIGHER EDUCATION.

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>> KEN NAQUIN IS A OVERSEEING

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CONTRACTORS REPRESENTING

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BUILDING, HIGHWAY, HEAVY USE THE

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AND INDUSTRIAL CONSTRUCTION

18:35.933 --> 18:36.467
FIRMS.

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LAGC MEMBERS WORK EVERY DAY

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UNDER STATE CONTRACTS.

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STATE REPRESENTATIVE KENNETH

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HAVARD IS A REPUBLICAN WHO

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REPRESENTS DISTRICT 62.

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HE CURRENTLY SITS ON THE HOUSE

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COMMERCE AND HEALTH AND WELFARE

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COMMITTEES.

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THE PRIV VACATION REVIEW ACT

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WOULD OVERSEE CONTRACTS WORTH

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MORE THAN $500,000.

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THE INSTITUTE'S MISSION IS TO

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PROMOTE FREEDOM AND PROSPERITY

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IN LOUISIANA.

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THERE'S NO FORMAL POSITION ON

19:08.067 --> 19:10.367
THE PRIVATIZATION OF GOVERNMENT

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SERVICES IT DOES PROMOTE

19:11.400 --> 19:13.433
POLICIES THAT LIMIT THE SCOPE

19:13.433 --> 19:14.867
AND COST OF GOVERNMENT.

19:14.867 --> 19:16.733
BEFORE WE GO TO OUR AUDIENCE FOR

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QUESTIONS, AUTO EACH OF YOU

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COULD TELL ME BRIEFLY WHAT YOUR

19:22.333 --> 19:24.133
THOUGHTS ARE ON LOUISIANA STATE

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CONTRACTS AND PRIVATIZATION.

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>> WE'VE GOT TOO MANY.

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WE'VE GOT ABOUT 19,000 ACCORDING

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TO THE LEGISLATIVE FISCAL

19:30.033 --> 19:30.533
OFFICE.

19:30.533 --> 19:33.400
WE SPEND OVER $5 BILLION A YEAR.

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WE'VE CUT HIGHER EDUCATION TO

19:34.867 --> 19:35.600
THE BONE.

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OUR BILL WOULD REDUCE THE

19:37.300 --> 19:39.733
SPENDING BY 10% AND DEDICATE THE

19:39.733 --> 19:42.567
MONTH IN TO HIGHER EDUCATION.

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THERE ARE THE CONTRACTS OF ONE

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DEPARTMENT.

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CONSULTANTING CONTRACTS FOR THE

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DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

19:52.000 --> 19:54.233
615 MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND

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THESE AREN'T THE CONTRACTS.

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THIS IS A LISTING OF THE

19:58.333 --> 19:59.100
CONTRACTS.

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PICK THE FIRST 50 NAMES OF THE

20:02.500 --> 20:03.967
BATON ROUGE PHONE BOOK AND ASK

20:03.967 --> 20:06.800
THIS TOMORROW ELIMINATE 10%.

20:06.800 --> 20:08.900
THE TAXPAYERS WILL NEVER NOTICE

20:08.900 --> 20:10.200
THE DIFFERENCE.

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THE UNIVERSITIES WILL BE CUT TO

20:11.700 --> 20:12.900
THE BONE.

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WHAT WE'VE DONE TO HELP

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CONSULTANTS, WE OUGHT TO BE

20:18.267 --> 20:18.800
EMBARRASSED.

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>> MR. NAQUIN, YOU REPRESENT

20:20.567 --> 20:21.100
CONTRACTORS.

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IS THAT THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE?

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>> WE TYRONN LUE CANNOT OPERATE

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WITHOUT CONTRACTORS, KIRBY.

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UNLIKE TREASURER KENNEDY WE'D

20:33.400 --> 20:34.733
LIKE TO SEE MORE CONTRACTS.

20:34.733 --> 20:36.533
THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE

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COASTAL RESTORATION, FACILITY

20:37.833 --> 20:40.400
PLANNING, DOTD, OUR CONTRACTORS,

20:40.400 --> 20:42.200
ENGINEERS THAT WORK FOR THOSE

20:42.200 --> 20:43.367
AGENCIES, THEY HAVE TO WORK ON

20:43.367 --> 20:44.600
THE CONTRACTS.

20:44.600 --> 20:47.967
THEY ARE VERY WELL-DEFINED, THEY

20:47.967 --> 20:50.467
HAVE A TREMENDOUSLY -- ALL THOSE

20:50.467 --> 20:53.733
DEPARTMENTS HAVE A CONTRACT

20:53.733 --> 20:54.933
REVIEW SETTLEMENT.

20:54.933 --> 20:56.333
WE THINK WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE

20:56.333 --> 20:57.433
CONTRACTS AND MORE WORK.

20:57.433 --> 20:59.267
OUR PROBLEM IS NOT ROAD

20:59.267 --> 21:00.067
CONTRACTS.

21:00.067 --> 21:01.267
DEN'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

21:01.267 --> 21:04.833
OUR PROBLEM IS NOT ROAD

21:04.833 --> 21:05.367
CONTRACTS.

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>> YOU'VE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION

21:06.467 --> 21:08.833
ALSO TO DEAL WITH CONTRACTS?

21:08.833 --> 21:10.967
>> THE ISSUE IS NOT NECESSARILY

21:10.967 --> 21:13.833
THE STATE CONTRACTS,

21:13.833 --> 21:15.467
ESPECIALLIES THE ROAD CONTRACTS,

21:15.467 --> 21:19.867
CONTRACTS WE WOULD DO EVERY DAY.

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MINE DEALS MOSTLY WITH

21:21.867 --> 21:22.933
PRIVATIZATION CONTRACTS AND I

21:22.933 --> 21:26.300
THINK WE NEED MORE OVERSIGHT,

21:26.300 --> 21:29.600
MORE COM HELP VIEW PLANS.

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RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE THAT

21:31.433 --> 21:35.033
AND MOST PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN

21:35.033 --> 21:36.800
CONSTIT GOVERNMENT PROBABLY

21:36.800 --> 21:40.533
REALIZE THAT WEAVER SPENDING

21:40.533 --> 21:43.167
MILLION, $268 ONE CONTRACT,

21:43.167 --> 21:45.800
ALMOST $1 BILLION OF THE OFFICE

21:45.800 --> 21:47.800
OF GROUP BENEFITS AND THE

21:47.800 --> 21:48.800
LEGISLATURE DID NOT HAVE

21:48.800 --> 21:50.300
OVERSIGHT INTO THAT CONTRACT.

21:50.300 --> 21:52.533
I WANT TO PUT SOME REVIEW

21:52.533 --> 21:53.900
PROCESS IN PLACE.

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THAT'S WHAT MY DILL DOES.

21:56.300 --> 21:59.733
>> MR. KANE, FROM THE PELICAN

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GROUP PERSPECTIVE, WHAT'S YOUR

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--

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>> SURE, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF

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LIMITING THE STATE AND COST OF

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GOVERNMENT.

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I TEND TO THINK OF IT AS AN

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OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A HIGHER

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LEVEL RATHER THAN A LOWER COST.

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IF YOU CAN DO THAT WITH A

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PRIVATE COMPANY RATHER THAN

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GROWING BESIDE THE SIZE OF

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GOVERNMENT, I THINK THAT'S A

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GOOD THING.

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HAVING SAID THAT, YOU DO NEED

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OVERSIGHT SIGHT.

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THERE'S NO PRIVATIZATION IS GOOD

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OR BAD, YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- I

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THINK THERE ARE CERTAINLY AREAS

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OF GOVERNMENT WHICH PROBABLY

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CAN'T BE PRIVATIZED.

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I DON'T THINK THAT REAL NO, REALISTIC

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WITH OTHER OUTCOME:  THERE NEEDS

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TO BE PROPHET OVERSIGHT OR IT'S

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A DISASTER.

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>> LET'S GO TO OUR AUDIENCE.

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TREY, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

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>> I DON'T THINK IT'S AN

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EITHER/OR LIKE WHAT YOU WERE

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SAYING JUST NOW.

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BUT DO I FEEL LIKE THERE HAS TO

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BE A WAY, IF WE'RE GOING THE

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PRIVATE ROUTE, THERE HAS TO BE

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SOME THINGS THAT IT WOULD MAKE

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MORE SENSE TO GO PRIVATE.

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BUT OTHER THINGS MAKE MORE

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STONES GO GOVERNMENTAL.

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HOW WOULD YOU OVERSEE PRIVATE

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ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S

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SOMEBODY SAYING IT MOO BUSINESS,

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AS LONG AS AIM FOLLOWING THE LAW

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ENFORCEMENT HOW WOULD, OVERSEE

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IT.

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>> I KNOW TREASURER KENNEDY AND

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REPRESENTATIVE HAVARD KNOW MOTOR

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VEHICLE IT'S ABSOLUTELY DOABLE

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AND YOU JUST BUILD IT INTO A

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CONTRACT.

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WITH PRIVATIZATION IT'S EASIER

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TO GET BAD OF A PRIVATE COMPANY,

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THAN IT IS A A -- A PART OF

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GROFT THAT YOU'VE GROWN AND

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HIRED PEOPLE.

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IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO GET RID

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OF THE BAD EGGS.

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>> YOU'VE GOT MAKE A DISTINCTION

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BETWEEN PRIVATIZATION.

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PRIVATIZATION IS A CALCULUS, YOU

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ASK WHAT ARE THE VITAL SERVICES

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AND PRODUCTS THAT GOVERNMENT

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SHOULD DELIVER TO TAXPAYERS?

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ONCE YOU HAVE THAT LIST, ASK WHO

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CAN DO A BETTER AND CHEAPER JOB

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BUT EQUALLY EFFICIENT OF

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DELIVERING THOSE PRODUCTS OR

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SERVICES.

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IF IT'S PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU GO

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WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

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IF IT'S PUBLIC, YOU GO WITH THE

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PUBLIC SECTOR.

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THAT'S WHOLLY SPRAYS.

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THE CONTRACTS I'M TALKING ABOUT,

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WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE

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ABSTRACT, LET'S GET DOWN IN THE

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WEEDS.

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CONTRACT 672113.

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CONTRACT WILL PROVIDE

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PROGRAMMING TO ASSIST STUDENTS

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TO LEARN VALUABLE SOCIAL SKILLS

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THROUGH ORGANIZED PLAY ON THEIR

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RECESS AND LUNCH PERIODS.

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NOW, MY SON HAD LUNCH AND RECESS

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DOWN IMMEDIATELY IN PRE K.

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HE'S ANTI-YEARS OLD NOW, HE'S

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STILL GOOD AT IT.

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HIS TRIGS IS A SEPTEMBER OTHER

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STORY.

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INFORMATION AND EDUCATION RAPIDS

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PARISH IN THE USE OF SEAT BELTS.

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STATE SPONSORSHIP OF CHIMPANZEE

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DISCOVERY DAYS INVOLVING BROAD

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MEDIA ATTENTION TO OBSERVATION

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OF CHIMPANZEES IN A SPACIOUS

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FORESTRY HABITAT.

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THESE RIGHT CONTRACTS THAT OUR

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BILL WOULD ELIMINATE.

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IT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $528

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MAINLINE EVERY YEAR AND WE'LL

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SPEND THAT MONEY ON HE HAD CASE

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INDICATION, ON LSU, SOUTHERN,

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DELGADO.

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WE HAVE CUT THEM 67%.

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YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, ASK KER BY

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WHAT'S HAPPENS OVER THE ALL

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RIGHT FIVE YEARS.

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PART IS THE FRIVOL QUESTIONS,

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ONE IS ARE WE PAYING FOR THINGS

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THAT WE SHOULD, AND THE OTHER

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ONE IS ARE WE GETTING OUT OF THE

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CONTRACTS WHAT WE NEED TO GET.

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REPRESENTATIVE HAVARD.

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>> WE NEED TO SET UP A

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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UP FRONT

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WHAT, WE EXPECT THE CONTRACTOR

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TO DO AND HOW WE EXPECT TO GET

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THERE AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE

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NEED TO REVIEW THOSE CONTRACTS

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AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE

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GETTING WHAT WE PAID FOR.

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THE LEGISLATURE IS RESPONSIBLE

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FOR THE BUDGET AT THE END OF THE

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DAY.

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IF THREE GUYS IN THE BACK ROOM

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ARE WORKING ON THE CONTRACT, AND

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I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT --

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WELL, I AM RESPONSIBLE IT FOR

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BUT I HAVE NO INSIGHT OR INPUT

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INTO IT, WHAT GOOD AM I TO EVEN

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BE THERE.

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THESE PEOPLE HAVE TONS AND TONS

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OF LOSTISTS.

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I'M THE PEOPLE'S LOBBYIST IN THE

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LEGISLATURE, I'M THERE TO MAKE

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SURE THEIR MONEY IS SPENT WELL.

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WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY OR AT LEAST

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A LOOK AT THESE CONTRACTS.

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>> MR. NAQUIN, DO YOU FEEL LIKE

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THE REVIEW PROCESS IS ADEQUATE?

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HOW DO WE KNOW THE CONTRACTS ARE

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DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO

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DO?

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>> THE THREE AGENCIES THAT WE

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WORK FOR, THE CONSULTING

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ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS AROUND

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THE STATE.

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THEY HAVE A CLOSE WORK OUT

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SESSION AT THE END OF EACH

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PROBLEM.

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WERE THEIR ANY PLANNED JURORS

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ERRORS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

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THAT GOES   INTO THE TEXT

27:40.167 --> 27:43.433
PRESENTATION ON HOW THEY GOT

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GRATED AS COMING AFTER THOSE

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CONTRACTS.

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THIS TESTIFY TO MAKE A

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PRESENTATION, THEY HAVE TO NOT

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BID TO THE LOWEST BIT BUT THEM

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TO MAKE A PROPOSAL TO BE HIRED

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AGAIN.

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THEY HAVE GREAT CLOSE-OUT

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SESSIONS ON THOSE.

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THERE'S NO REASON IF THEY CAN DO

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IT ON THESE, ANY OTHER --

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>> WHAT ABOUT THE 10% ACROSS THE

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BOARD IDEA, HOW WOULD THAT

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AFFECT YOU?

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>> BUSINESSWOMEN LITTLE, IT HAS

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NOG DO WITH THIS BILL.

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>> BUT THIS BILL DOESN'T AFFECT

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THE CAP THAT WILL AS THE.

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MY BILL HAS STRICTLY TO DO WITH

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PRIVATIZATION CONTRACTS LIKE

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EARL K. LONG HOSPITAL, THE

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PERFECT EXAMPLE.

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WHEN WE STARTED THE CONTRACT IT

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WAS $100 MILLION.

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THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

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THIS YEAR IT'S $169 MILLION.

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IS IT SAVING MONEY?

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I DON'T THINK SO IF WE LOOK AT

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IT IN THOSE TERMS.

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THERE ARE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT

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WE'RE OUT THERE LOOKING AT CNSI

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WAS A PERFECT RACKET THAT WE

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HAD, AND WE ENDED UP PULLING

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THAT CONTRACT.

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>> COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE CNSI

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SITUATION VERY BRIEFLY?

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>> WE HIRED A CONTRACT TO DO THE

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MEDICAID BILL AND IT WAS A FIRM

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THAT CAME OUT OF MICHIGAN.

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I THINK IT WAS MICHIGAN, AND

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ANYWAY, OUR DUE DILIGENCE WASN'T

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DONE UP FRONT.

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LATER WE FOUND OUT THERE MIGHT

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HAVE BEEN SOME IMPROPRIETOR

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BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

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AND THE HOSPITAL.

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SUMMER ACTS SAID THE SAME THING.

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WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE CALLED

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SOME OF THIS STUFF UP FRONT.

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>> MICHAEL, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING

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TO GET IN.

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HOW DO I GET ONE OF THOSE

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CONTRACTS.

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>> WE'VE GOT 19 HOW TO OF THEM.

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MOSUL YOU HAVE TO KNOW A

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POLITICIAN, I'M HOW THE ARE

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WORMED THERE WE'VE GOT HAVE SOME

29:57.900 --> 30:00.167
PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND WHO

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TAKES CARE OF THE PENALTIES IF

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THEY DON'T MEET UP WITH THE

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PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

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I'M JUST INTRIGUED OF WHY OLOL

30:10.900 --> 30:15.200
HAS GONE UP.

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DIDN'T WE HEALTH WHAT WE'RE

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GOING PAY THEM.

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>> WE ABSOLUTELY D. OUR MEDICAID

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REIMBURSEMENT RATES WERE CUT

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FROM THE FEDS AND THAT COST US

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OUR SHARE.

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MANY YOU HAVE HAVE TALKED ABOUT

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BEING BUSINESS GUYS OR LADIES.

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WE WOULD NOT HAVE SIGN A REPORT

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THAT HAD A 50 BLANK PAGES BEFORE

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WE SIGNED THEM AND IT'S COMING

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BACK TO HAUNT US NOW.

30:43.900 --> 30:45.333
THEY HAVE SEE THE WE DON'T AGREE

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WITH THE WAY YOU SET THIS

30:49.900 --> 30:54.033
LEASING THING UP OR THE NONCOSM.

30:54.033 --> 30:57.033
SO THAT'S ALREADY A $307 MILLION

30:57.033 --> 30:58.667
HOLE IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE

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DIDN'T DO OUR WORK IN THE FLU

31:04.433 --> 31:07.033
SHOT M. WE'RE KIND OF IN THE

31:07.033 --> 31:09.333
BRAVE NEW WORLD SO TO SPEAK WITH

31:09.333 --> 31:12.400
REGARDS TO PRIVATIZATION, GROUP

31:12.400 --> 31:13.633
BENEFITS, THE CHARITY HOSPITAL

31:13.633 --> 31:16.200
AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

31:16.200 --> 31:18.533
THE PART OF THE QUESTION I

31:18.533 --> 31:20.833
HAVEN'T HEAR, AFTER SEVERAL

31:20.833 --> 31:24.200
YEARS OF THESE CROCKETTS REPEL

31:24.200 --> 31:26.433
-- IF WE'RE DETERMINED THEY ARE

31:26.433 --> 31:28.033
NOT TO PROVIDE COST SAVING AND

31:28.033 --> 31:30.633
BENEFIT TOTS STATE, WOULD IT BE

31:30.633 --> 31:31.900
CONTEMPLATED THAT THE SERVICES

31:31.900 --> 31:35.033
MIGHT BE INSOURCED AGAIN?

31:35.033 --> 31:38.467
>> WELL, IT'S A HUGE CONTRACT,

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AND LAST TAKE THE PRIVATIZATION

31:43.833 --> 31:45.200
OF OUR HOSPITAL.

31:45.200 --> 31:46.600
BUT ONCE YOU TURN OVER ALL OF

31:46.600 --> 31:48.933
YOUR HEALTH CARE TO THESE SELECT

31:48.933 --> 31:50.233
PRIVATE HOSPITALS, YOU CAN'T

31:50.233 --> 31:52.367
JUST TAKE THEM BACK ON A DIME.

31:52.367 --> 31:53.600
THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

31:53.600 --> 31:57.467
I SUPPORTED THE PRIVATIZATION

31:57.467 --> 32:00.933
BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THAT IT

32:00.933 --> 32:04.367
WOULD SAVE MONEY AND NOT ACT

32:04.367 --> 32:07.267
ADVICE THE QUALITY OF CARE.

32:07.267 --> 32:10.167
THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS $600

32:10.167 --> 32:13.133
MILLION ON THE PRIVATIZATION OF

32:13.133 --> 32:14.133
OUR CONTRACTS.

32:14.133 --> 32:17.600
THE PROBLEM IS THAT 600 MILLION

32:17.600 --> 32:22.433
GAME 1.2 MLB.

32:22.433 --> 32:23.767
IT'SING GOING UP AGAIN NEXT

32:23.767 --> 32:25.267
YEAR, I SUPPORT THE

32:25.267 --> 32:26.367
PRIVATIZATION AND I HAVE HAVE

32:26.367 --> 32:29.433
YET TO SEE THE SAVINGS.

32:29.433 --> 32:33.433
WE JUST HEARD THEY ARE GOING TO

32:33.433 --> 32:34.700
WITHHOLD OUR MEDICAID MONEY,

32:34.700 --> 32:39.567
WHICH IS STILL INDEED LOVE -- IT

32:39.567 --> 32:40.367
CAN WORK.

32:40.367 --> 32:42.567
IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAVE MONEY AND

32:42.567 --> 32:48.300
I HAVE BEEN SEEN TOO, WHEN WE

32:48.300 --> 32:50.367
THROE AURAL K.

32:50.367 --> 32:51.867
THERE WAS NOWHERE FOR THEM TO

32:51.867 --> 32:54.567
BRING THE INMATES AND THAT'S

32:54.567 --> 32:59.600
GOING TO PRIVATE.

32:59.600 --> 33:00.667
ARCH.

33:00.667 --> 33:03.433
ALSO YOU HAVE -- YOU NEED TO

33:03.433 --> 33:06.400
LOOK AT THE PRIVATE HOSPITALS

33:06.400 --> 33:07.800
THAT SURROUND EARL K. LONG,

33:07.800 --> 33:10.433
YOU'VE GOT LANE AND ZACHARY, WHO

33:10.433 --> 33:11.967
DIDN'T -- THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE

33:11.967 --> 33:13.833
LUXURY OF CUTTING A DEAL TO GET

33:13.833 --> 33:15.100
THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE

33:15.100 --> 33:15.733
STATE.

33:15.733 --> 33:19.067
EVERY TIME AN INDIGENT PATIENT

33:19.067 --> 33:21.700
WALKS INTO THAT HOSPITAL, NOT

33:21.700 --> 33:23.467
THE HOSPITAL BUT INTO THE

33:23.467 --> 33:27.333
EMERGENCY ROOM, THEY GET ZERO

33:27.333 --> 33:29.133
REIMBURSEMENT IT FOR.

33:29.133 --> 33:32.833
THE SAME THING GO THE OH WUR

33:32.833 --> 33:36.200
SHOW THE CROWNING AREAS.

33:36.200 --> 33:38.300
ARE WE GETTING THE SERVICES?

33:38.300 --> 33:39.900
I CAN TELL YOU THIS, IF YOU TRY

33:39.900 --> 33:41.800
TO GO THERE NOW, MANY, MANY

33:41.800 --> 33:43.700
TIMES, WE JUST SAW THE OTHER DAY

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ON THE NEWS WHERE THE EMERGENCY

33:45.867 --> 33:47.600
ROOM RATES, WAITING TIMES HAVE

33:47.600 --> 33:48.500
GONE UP.

33:48.500 --> 33:50.067
>> NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CUT

33:50.067 --> 33:52.067
THOSE CONTRACTS BY 10%?

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ARE THOSE PART OF WHAT YOU

33:54.067 --> 33:54.600
INCLUDED?

33:54.600 --> 33:55.733
>> THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED.

33:55.733 --> 33:57.500
THE CONTRACTS -- I WANTED TO

33:57.500 --> 34:00.767
SAY, KIRBY, IT'S FOR DISTINGUISH

34:00.767 --> 34:03.600
BETWEEN PRIVATIZATION AND

34:03.600 --> 34:04.533
FRUITLESS CONTRACTS.

34:04.533 --> 34:06.700
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

34:06.700 --> 34:15.667
CONTRACT NO. 725404.

34:15.667 --> 34:17.633
EACHING VALUES TO FOURTH AND

34:17.633 --> 34:18.800
FIFTH GRADERS.

34:18.800 --> 34:20.833
WE NEED TO BE TEACHING MATH AND

34:20.833 --> 34:21.500
READING.

34:21.500 --> 34:27.333
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE, HERE'S A

34:27.333 --> 34:34.000
$547,790 CONTRACT, NO. 660531.

34:34.000 --> 34:36.667
TEACH THE PARTS PENTS THE

34:36.667 --> 34:39.200
SCHOOLS NEEDED.

34:39.200 --> 34:41.167
I THINK WE ALL KNOW WE'RE BETTER

34:41.167 --> 34:43.000
OFF WITH A JOB THAN WITHOUT.

34:43.000 --> 34:45.333
BUT IF I'M THE BALLROOM TEACHER

34:45.333 --> 34:48.000
AND YOU CUT MY CONTRACT BY 10%,

34:48.000 --> 34:49.867
DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM THEM?

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>> I WOULD CUT IT COMPLETELY.

34:52.133 --> 34:54.533
BUT I'VE ALREADY GOT THE

34:54.533 --> 34:55.533
CONTRACT.

34:55.533 --> 35:00.133
>> NO, WE HAVE A VISION IN EVERY

35:00.133 --> 35:01.300
CONSULTING CONTRACT WHICH SAYS

35:01.300 --> 35:03.533
THE STATE CAN GET OUT OF IT BY

35:03.533 --> 35:05.567
SENDING THEM A LETTER AND GIVING

35:05.567 --> 35:07.433
THEM 30 DAYS' NOTICE.

35:07.433 --> 35:08.600
>> WHY DON'T WE?

35:08.600 --> 35:10.567
>> BECAUSE A LOT OF NIECE

35:10.567 --> 35:12.000
CONTRACTORS ARE POLITICALLY

35:12.000 --> 35:12.433
CONNECTED.

35:12.433 --> 35:14.600
>> LET ME GET A QUESTION FROM

35:14.600 --> 35:15.200
HALEY.

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SHE'S BEEN WAITING TO GET IN.

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>> YOU MENTIONED ALL THESE

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FRIVOL CONTRACTS.

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WHY HAS NOBODY OPENS TO THEM

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BEFORE THEY WERE TINE.

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THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, I DON'T

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KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT.

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THERE'S A GROUP CALLED OFFICE OF

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CRACKTUAL REVIEW, IT'S IN THE

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PRIVATIZATION AND THEY ARE

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SUPPOSED TO REVIEW ALL OF THESE

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CONTRACTS.

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THEY DON'T REVIEW THEM FOR

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POLICY, THEY REVIEW THEM FOR

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FORM.

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>> THE LOUISIANA GOVERNOR IS A

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VERY POWERFUL MAN, IT WAS SET UP

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THAT WAY IN THE CONSTITUTION

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CONVENTION YEARS AGO.

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YOU HAVE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT

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ARE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING AT THE

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CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY THE

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PRIVATIZATION CONTRACTS.

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OUR REVIEW FORE OUR LADY OF THE

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LAKE, THEY ARE NOT ELECTED.

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THEY ARE APPOINTED, THEY DON'T

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HAVE TO ANSWER TO ANYBODY EXCEPT

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WHO POINTED THEM.

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I HAVE TO ANSWER TO MY SITTIANS.

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IF I'M RESPONSIBLE I WANT TO SEE

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THE CONTRACT AND AT LEAST HAVE

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SOME INPUT.

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>> I THINK MOST OF YOU AGREES

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THE BALANCE IS WHAT'S NEEDED.

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THE CONTRACTS AROUND BAD OR

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ABOUT THE.

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I THINK THE PROBABLIES IN

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PRESIDENT BOARD, HOW DO SOME OF

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THESE CONTRACTS GET PASSED?

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IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

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>> IT'S NOT THE LEGISLATION'S

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FACILITY, THEY SAY LOOK, WHY ARE

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YOU HIRING SOMEBODY, PAYING THEM

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60,000 A YEAR TO TELL SOMEBODY

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TO WEAR THEIR SEAT BELTS WHEN

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IT'S THE LAW.

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THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THESE

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THINGS.

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THE MONEY, I WOULD ELIMINATE

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EVERY ONE AND DEDICATE THE MONEY

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TO EDUCATION.

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>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO START HE

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HAD CASES:  THE GOVERNOR WILL DO

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IT WITH AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.

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WE HAVE A BILL, IT'S NOT AN

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ACROSS THE BOARD CUT, DIRECTING

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EVERY AGENCY OF STATE GOVERNMENT

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TO REDUCE SPENDING ON

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CONSULTANTS BY A VERY MOD

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DECEMBER THEY CAN KEEP SPENDING

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90 PERTAIN BUT WE'LL GOT THEY

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HAVE CONTRACTS.

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IT DOESN'T TOUCH THE ROAD

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CONTRACTS OR MEDICAID PROVIDERS.

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WE WILL DEAD CASE THAT MONEY TO

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OUR UNIVERSITIES.

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>> SO IF IT'S POLITICAL, THOUGH,

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HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?

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>> WELL, LOOK.

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WE'VE GOT ENOUGH MONEY, KISH

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WE'VE GOT ENOUGH MONEY TO BE NO.

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1 IN THE SOUTH IN EDUCATION, OUR

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COASTAL RESTORATION, OUR ROAD

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CONSTRUCTION BUT WE DON'T HAVE

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ENOUGH TO BE NUMBER ONE IN THE

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SHOUT FOR THOSE THINGS OR

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POLITICAL PATRONAGE.

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>> THE PELICAN INSTITUTE --

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>> WHO CAN ARGUE IN FAVOR OF

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WASTEFUL CONTRACTS?

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I'M NOT -- AND AGAIN, I HAVEN'T

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LOOKED AT THE CONTRACTS IN

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QUESTION.

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I GENERAL IMPINGE.

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>> OPPOSED AT SOME OF THESE

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PROGRAMS.

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YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THAT'S

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JUST INHERENT WITH A GOVERNMENT

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THAT SPENDS THAT MUCH MONEY AND

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IS INVOLVED IN SO MUCH DIFFERENT

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THINGS.

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ONE OF THE REASONS I'M SORT OF

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PHILOSOPHICALLY INSPIRED TO

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SUPPORT THE CONCEPT WHILE OF

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COURSE IT HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT.

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I DO THINK IT'S EASIER TO BUILD

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ACCOUNTABILITY INTO IT AND GET

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RID OF THE PEOPLE WHO AROUND

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PERFORMING.

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OF.

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A GENTLEMAN EARLIER MENTIONED

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THE ISSUE OF PRIVATE PRISONS.

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AND IN LOSE, WE HAVE THE

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HYDE'SERS RATE IN THE COUNTRY.

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WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE ABOUT

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HALF OF THE STATE PRISONS ARE

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INCARCERATED IN LOCAL PRISONS

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AROUND THE STATE.

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AND THEN WE PAY THOSE SHERIFFS

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PER DIEM MONEY FROM THE STATE

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FOR THE MUST BE OF PRISONERS

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THAT WE'VE HOLD.

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NOW, I'M NOT ATTACKING THE

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SHERIFFS HERE, THEY WERE DOING

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WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO DO.

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IF THEY WEREN'T, WE WOULD HAVE

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TO BUILD MORE PRISON, WHICH IS

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ALSO VERY SPECIFY.

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WE HAVE GRATED AN INCENTIVE THAT

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MOST OF US WOULD AGREE IS

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PROBLEMATIC.

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A BIG PART OF THEIR BUDGET IS

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DEPENDING ON HAVING A CERTAIN

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NUMB OF PEOPLE INCRATER RATING.

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PEOPLE GENERALLY THINK THESE

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SORT OF PROBLEMS ARE CREATED BY

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THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

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MAYBE THEY CAN HELP GET US OUT

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OF THAT SOMEHOW, IF YOU HAD

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COMPANIES THAT WERE INCENTIVIZED

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TO EDUCATE AND GIVE JOB TRAINING

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TO PEOPLE IN JAIL, WHO WE KNOW

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ARE GOING TO BE GETTING OUT AND

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PREPARING THEM FOR LIFE ON THE

40:30.200 --> 40:31.633
OUTSIDE, AND THEY ARE

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INCENTIVIZED TO BRING DOWN

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RECIDIVISM RATES OR MAYBE WE

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COULD JUST FINED WITH A IT TO DO

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WITH YOU THAT MEAL.

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>> WHAT SORT OF ITEMS WE HAVE TO

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HAVE THERE.

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THAT'S REALLY WHAT MATTERS.

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>> AND THERE IS A WAY TO TAKE

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THE POLITICS OUT OF THE REVIEW

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PROCESS?

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CAN WE GOAT A NONPOLITICAL

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OBJECTIVE FAIR REVIEW PROCESS?

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>> MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK

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YOU'LL EVER TAKE EMPLOYMENT

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COMPLETELY OUT OF ANYTHING

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BECAUSE WE'RE HUMAN BEINGS IT'S

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A JUST THE WAY WE ARE.

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I NEVER WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD

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PEOPLE WITH THE CAPITOL.

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>> WHAT MY BILL WOULD DO IS AT

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LEAST GET THE LEGISLATIVE YOU

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HAD A SISTER IN ON THE FRONT

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END, SERVICE THOSE TAPING OR IT

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SAVING US MONEY SEND IT TO THE

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HOUSE OVERSIGHT NIGHTMARE WHO

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HAS A DECISION OVER THAT, AND

41:39.333 --> 41:41.067
THEN LET US MAKE A DECISION FROM

41:41.067 --> 41:41.667
THERE.

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THAT'S WHAT MY BILL WOULD DO,

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HAVING TROUBLE GETTING FOX WITH

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HEIFER EFFACE UP.

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I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ROADS

41:59.633 --> 42:00.967
VERSUS FRIVOLOUS AND THERE ARE

42:00.967 --> 42:02.367
SOME DISTINCTIONS WE'RE MAKING

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HERE.

42:02.800 --> 42:04.233
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE REVIEW IS

42:04.233 --> 42:05.833
TOO LIMITED?

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TOO THOROUGH?

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>> FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT'S

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WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS.

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IT DOESN'T GO TO THE OFFICE OF

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CONTRACTS.

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WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL APARTMENTS

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I THINK THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB

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OF CLOSE OUTAND PERFORMANCE

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MEASURES, HE DOES.

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I THINK WHAT TREASURER KENNEDY

42:25.800 --> 42:28.000
SAID, THERE REALLY IS NO REVIEW

42:28.000 --> 42:29.033
PROCESS TODAY.

42:29.033 --> 42:31.533
THE OFFICE OF REVIEW IS SIX

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PEOPLE, ALL THEY DO IS AT THIS

42:34.067 --> 42:38.000
TIME AND LOOK AT THE REALITY OF

42:38.000 --> 42:40.367
THIS YOU KNOW.

42:40.367 --> 42:42.533
THE AUDIENCE AND SOME ELECTED

42:42.533 --> 42:44.200
OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE PEOPLE IN

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LAST ARE LOOKING FOR.

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>> IF IT'S AN OUT OF STATE OH

42:48.367 --> 42:50.033
COMPANY THAT GETS THE CONTRACTS,

42:50.033 --> 42:54.833
WHAT ARE THE TAX IMPLICATIONS

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VOUS AN ANYONE STATE COMPANY.

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>> AUSTIN, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING.

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>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION,

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YEAH.

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IT REALLY SURPRISES ME LIKE

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GETTING SUPPORT FROM THE

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ADMINISTRATION.

43:05.233 --> 43:07.700
THERE WAS A BIG PUSH FOR FISCAL

43:07.700 --> 43:08.867
REFORM IN THE STATE.

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I SAW YOUR BILL BARELY MADE IT

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THROUGH A SENATE COMMITTEE.

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MY WHOLE THING IS RETURNS RUN ON

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BEING FISCALLY CHERTIVE.

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LAST YEAR I SENT THE BILL TO TWO

43:29.367 --> 43:31.967
COMMITTEES AND GOT OUT OF BOTH

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COMMITTEES WITHOUT OBJECTION ON

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THE HOUSE SIDE.

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93 VOTES ON A NO VOTE.

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IF I HAD ABOUT A THREE-MINUTE

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HEARING, I HAD THAT HEARING AND

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THEY KILLED ME.

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THIS IS THE SAME BILL I'M

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BRINGING THIS YEAR.

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I DON'T CARE WHO THE GOVERNOR

43:46.300 --> 43:49.667
IS, I'M GOING TO BRING IT EVERY

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YEAR AS LONG AS I MEAN UNTIL I

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GET IT BACK.

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>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF

43:55.800 --> 44:01.500
YOU ALL AGREED OR DISAGREES.

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WITH THE ADDITION OF THE

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CONTRACTS, THE WAY THE CONTRACTS

44:05.133 --> 44:07.400
ARE AT SISTERED, THE WAY THEY

44:07.400 --> 44:08.700
ARE THEN REVIEW.

44:08.700 --> 44:09.933
THEY ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO

44:09.933 --> 44:12.433
HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR

44:12.433 --> 44:13.533
THIS, RIGHT?

44:13.533 --> 44:15.633
LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.

44:15.633 --> 44:20.300
DO YOU ALL AGREE THAT PERHAPS

44:20.300 --> 44:22.400
THE BEAUROCRACY ITSELF THAT WE

44:22.400 --> 44:24.067
HAVE CREATE THE IS OPERATING OUT

44:24.067 --> 44:26.400
THERE AS ITS OWN PLANET AND

44:26.400 --> 44:27.700
UNACCOUNTABLE TO ANYONE FOR THE

44:27.700 --> 44:31.833
DECISIONS IT MAKES ABOUT RECRESS

44:31.833 --> 44:39.400
AND CHIMP PINCH.

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>> I DON'T THINK -- THE ROAD

44:40.500 --> 44:41.933
CONTRACTS ARE DIFFERENT, THERE'S

44:41.933 --> 44:43.200
A WHOLE SEPARATE APPARATUS.

44:43.200 --> 44:44.833
I DON'T THINK THE CONTRACTS ARE

44:44.833 --> 44:46.067
BEING REVIEWED FOR POLICY.

44:46.067 --> 44:48.000
WE'VE CUT HIGHER EDUCATION FROM

44:48.000 --> 44:50.733
OUR GENERAL FUND BY 67%.

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SINCE 2008.

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>> YEAH.

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>> NOW, IN LIGHT OF THAT, WHY

44:56.733 --> 44:59.200
WOULD ANYBODY APPROVE CONTRACT

44:59.200 --> 45:03.533
NO. 686276.

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IT'S A ONE-DAY SEMINAR,

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LEADERSHIP DISNEY STYLE FROM THE

45:09.467 --> 45:12.600
LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AT DCRT.

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WHY WOULD ANYBODY PROVE -- DHH

45:17.167 --> 45:18.967
IS SHORT OF MONEY.

45:18.967 --> 45:21.767
THEY JUST SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR

45:21.767 --> 45:24.533
$20,000 TO SPONSOR TWO BOXING

45:24.533 --> 45:25.067
TOURNAMENTS.

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>> DO WE TURN IT OVER TO THE

45:27.367 --> 45:28.900
DEMOCRATS WHO SIMPLY OPERATE IN

45:28.900 --> 45:30.667
THEIR OWN ATMOSPHERE?

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>> THESE DECISIONS COME FROM

45:32.867 --> 45:35.833
HIGHER UP.

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>> REPRESENTATIVE HAVARD, LIKE

45:37.633 --> 45:39.667
HE WAS SAYING THESE ARE

45:39.667 --> 45:40.333
RIDICULOUS.

45:40.333 --> 45:46.233
BUT ALSO HOW DOES A $100 MILLION

45:46.233 --> 45:48.667
CONTRACT BECOME A $100 MILLION

45:48.667 --> 45:49.200
CONTRACT?

45:49.200 --> 45:51.567
I THINK IT WAS WITH BENEFITS,

45:51.567 --> 45:52.667
GROUP INSURANCE.

45:52.667 --> 45:55.367
WITHOUT YOUR EYES SEEING IT

45:55.367 --> 45:57.967
INWHO CHECKS THE CHECKER IS

45:57.967 --> 46:00.067
GUESS IS MY QUESTION.

46:00.067 --> 46:06.133
IT WOULD DATAUP, WE WEREN'T SET

46:06.133 --> 46:12.333
UP FOR THAT.

46:12.333 --> 46:13.500
WITH HE HAVE NO REVIEW PROCESS

46:13.500 --> 46:15.267
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL WOULD

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DO.

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>> THE PRIVATIZATION HAS BEEN

46:16.567 --> 46:18.033
THE LAST COUPLE OF

46:18.033 --> 46:18.700
ADMINISTRATIONS?

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>> RIGHT.

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>> OKAY.

46:19.900 --> 46:22.500
>> JUST SO I'M CLEAR, SO YOUR

46:22.500 --> 46:25.167
CONCERN AS I HEAR IT IS MOSTLY

46:25.167 --> 46:27.067
VIEW OF ON THE FRONT END, MAKING

46:27.067 --> 46:28.800
SURE WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY ON

46:28.800 --> 46:32.000
THINGS WE DON'T NEED, AS OPPOSED

46:32.000 --> 46:37.400
TOES TO A REVIEW ON THE BACK END

46:37.400 --> 46:39.800
THAT MAYBE THERE ISN'T AS BIG OF

46:39.800 --> 46:41.267
A PROBLEM?

46:41.267 --> 46:42.467
>> WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THIS.

46:42.467 --> 46:44.167
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE

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I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE HEARD THE

46:46.667 --> 46:49.600
GOLD STANDARD OF ETHICS AND TRAN

46:49.600 --> 46:51.267
PARAPHERNALIACY AND ALL OF THESE

46:51.267 --> 46:51.767
THINGS.

46:51.767 --> 46:53.567
IT'S TIME THAT WE MATCH OUR

46:53.567 --> 46:54.967
ACTIONS TO OUR RHETORIC.

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THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

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THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

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ESPECIALLY ON A PRIVATIZATION

47:01.333 --> 47:02.433
CONTRACT, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR

47:02.433 --> 47:04.400
WITH BRIDGE CONTRACTS AND

47:04.400 --> 47:05.733
MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND

47:05.733 --> 47:06.467
ENGINEERING.

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YOU'RE TALKING A $50,000

47:09.300 --> 47:13.267
CONTRACT VOUS A $1 BILLION

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CONTRACT.

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>> IT'S A QUESTION OF

47:15.567 --> 47:16.467
PRIORITIES, KIRBY.

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THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND

47:17.633 --> 47:20.467
FAMILY SERVICES SPENT $100

47:20.467 --> 47:25.200
MILLION ESTABLISHING A WEBSITE.

47:25.200 --> 47:28.267
THE CONTRACTOR BELOIT, FROM OUT

47:28.267 --> 47:29.733
OF STATE, I THINK THEY ARE OUT

47:29.733 --> 47:31.200
OF PENNSYLVANIA, THEY ARE ALL

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OVER THE WORLD, DIDN'T FINISH

47:32.533 --> 47:33.200
THE JOB.

47:33.200 --> 47:36.033
THEY GOT A NEW CONTRACT.

47:36.033 --> 47:38.767
YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR PERSONALITY

47:38.767 --> 47:41.400
WAS FOR NOT FINISHING THE JOB?

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NOTHING.

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THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN THE

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PRIVATE SECTOR.

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I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE

47:46.033 --> 47:47.833
SPEND $100 MILLION ON A WEBSITE.

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I THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE SPENT

47:50.467 --> 47:56.033
IN OUR UNIVERSITIES.

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IF THE CONTRACT DOESN'T PERFORM

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AND CREWS UP THE WEBSITE,

47:58.900 --> 48:01.533
SHOULDN'T THERE BE A PENALTY?

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>> ARE THERE INADEQUATE

48:06.567 --> 48:07.133
PENALTIES,.

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>> BEFORE WE ISSUED THIS FRONT

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END VERSUS BACK SEND.

48:13.567 --> 48:15.400
LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF

48:15.400 --> 48:16.033
THAT.

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I'M ON THE BOARD OF AN

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ORGANIZATION THAT RUNS CHARTER

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SCHOOLS.

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I THINK AN EXAMPLE OF THIS THING

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BEING DONE PROPERLY,

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ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GIVEN

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CHARTERS TO RUN SCHOOLS ARE

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REVIEWED BY THE STATE.

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AFTER A FEW PROVIDED, THEY LOSE

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THE CHARTER.

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WE'RE SEEING SCHOOL IN NEW

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ORLEANS, FAILING FOR PERFORM IN

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MANAGING SCHOOLS AND THEY LOSE

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THE CHARTER.

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TO ME, THAT'S HOW IF YOU'RE

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GOING TO -- I MEAN, THIS IS A

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FORM OF PRIVATE DECISION.

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OUT OF CROFT TROL, I THINK

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THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW

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THAT CAN WORK PROPERLY.

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>> I'M GLAD HE BROUGHT THAT UP

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ABOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS.

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A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS

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OR REALIZE IT.

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A LOT OF THEM ARE FOR-PROFIT

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CHARTERS SCHOOLS.

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THEY ARE BEING PARADED THROUGH

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THE VEIL OF A NONPROFIT

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ORGANIZATION.

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IN ORDER TO PRAYS IS A CHARTER

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SCHOOL IN LOUISIANA YOU HAVE TO

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BE A NO.

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THE STATE GIVES ME MFP DOLLARS,

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WHICH ARE CAR ACCIDENT KNOT

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BETTER THAN.

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I THEN TURN AROUND AND GIVE TO

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IT A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY WHO

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MAKES MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND IS

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MAKING ENOUGH FOR A PROFIT.

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NOW, THERE ARE SOME CHECKS AND

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BALANCES IN THERE TO MAKE SURE

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THEY ARE DOING PROPERLY AND

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OPERATING PROPERLY.

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IF THEY ARE TAKING TAXPAYER

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DOLLARS AND BUYING A PENCIL

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THAT, PROPERTY THROUGH STATE

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WITH THE TAKE THE OR THE

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INJURIED YET, THE ORGANIZATION.

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--

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>> I'D A RAISE A QUESTION BASED

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ON THAT.

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IF SOMEBODY IS CREATING A

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NONPROFIT FOR SORT OF GOVERNOR

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FOR.

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I'VE JUST RAISED THIS QUESTION I

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THINK WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER.

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LET'S SAY A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY

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DOES A BETTER JOB OF EDUCATING

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OUR CHILDREN.

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ASK ANYBODY REALLY HAVE A

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PROBLEM IF THEY TURN A PROFIT IN

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DOING THAT?

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>> I DON'T.

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>> I'D HIRE SOME MORE OF THEM IF

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THEY CAN WORKED.

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>> JOHN HAS A QUESTION.

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>> THIS IS FOR ONE OF YOUR PANEL

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MEMBERS, I GUESS.

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WE KIND OF KEEP TRAVERSING BACK

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TOWARD EDUCATION, MY QUESTION

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WILL BE HOW DO YOU AS I THE MOVE

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WOULD AFFECT PRIVATIZATION IN

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SOME WAYS?

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>> LET ME TALK ELEMENTARY AND

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SECONDARY FIRST.

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I'LL SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT

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IMPROVES.

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>> ANYTHING.

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IN TERMS OF HIGHER EDUCATION,

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OUTHERN LSU, UNIVERSITIES, THEYS

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HAVE THE TOOLS, THEY JUST DON'T

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HAVE THE FUNDING.

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SO IT'S A SEPARATE PROBLEM.

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>> WILLIAM, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

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>> THE BIG ISSUE HERE IS

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CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

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I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE

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SCHOOL DOING BETTER A PRIVATE

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SCHOOL, ALTHOUGH WHO'S CHECKING?

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WHO'S ACCOUNTING FOR IT?

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DOES THE PUBLIC GET TO SEE WHAT

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THEY ARE TEACHING?

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IF A PRIVATE COL HAS OIL

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INTERESTS OR SOMETHING, THEY

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MIGHT NOT WANT TO TEACH

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ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE.

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CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS MY

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BILLER STUMBLING BLOCK.

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BUT IS IT TOO ABOUT TURKCAN

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VALLEY IN THE HEALTH CARE?

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WHAT KIND OF LEGAL RESOURCE IS

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THE STATE GOING TO HAVE IF

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THERE'S A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD?

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ARE THERE PROVISIONS TO AVOID

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LENGTHY LITIGATION THAT A BIG

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HEALTH CARE COMPANY COULD AMASS

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A HUGE WAR CHEST TO TIE YOU WANT

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STATE?

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HOLD US OVER A BARREL.

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>> CNSI IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

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>> WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A

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LAWSUIT NOW WITH CNSI.

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WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT BY DUE

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DILIGENCE ON THE FRONT END.

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>> DANIEL, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING

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TO GET IN.

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>> I HAVE.

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REPRESENTATIVE, 19,000

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CONTRACTS, HOW DOES 135, 40 OF

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YOU ALL TRY TO GET YOUR HANDS

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AROUND THAT?

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YOU'D HAVE TO DO WHAT WASHINGTON

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DOES AND BACK FULL-TIME

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LEGISLATOR.

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>> NO, YOU WOULDN'T.

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MY BILL IS EVERYTHING OVER 5

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MILLION DOLLARS.

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AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT, I'M NOT

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GOING WANT TO DEFINITELY INTO

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EVERY SINGLE ENGINEER AND

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CONTRACT ON THE ROAD.

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THAT'S AN ISSUE I THINK

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REPRESENTATIVE RICHARD AND JOHN

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KENNEDY IS TALKING ABOUT.

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WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BUNCH

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OF CONTRACTS, BUT WE ARE TALKING

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A HUNDRED HERE, ONE BILLION

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DOLLARS, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THOSE

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CONTRACTS.

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>> HERE WHAT'S YOU DO, DAN.

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IT'S REALLY SIMPLE.

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HOUSE PREPARATION SENATE

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FINANCE, WE MEET ONCE A MONTH.

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BEFORE THEY HAVE A MEETING THEY

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GET A LIST OF ALL OF THE

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CONTRACTS SIGNED THE PREVIOUS

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MONTH.

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IF NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS THE

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CONTRACT'S APPROVED.

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IF SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION, YOU

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HOLD A HEARING ON IT.

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THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE CHIMPANZEE

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DISCOVERY DAYS CONTRACT, THEY

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ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO GET THAT

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CONTRACT ANY MORE.

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THEY KNOW THE COMMITTEE WILL

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CALL -- THEY ARE NOT GOING TO

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EVEN TRY IT ANYMORE.

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A LOT OF THESE FRIVOLOUS

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CONTRACT WILL JUST GO AWAY.

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UNLIGHT IS A PRETTY GOOD

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ANTISEPTIC.

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>> BUT THE NEW CONTRACT DOESN'T

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BECOME FINAL UNTIL IT'S APPROVED

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BY THE JOIN LEGISLATIVE

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COMMITTEE ON THE BUDGET.

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THERE'S NO LAW FOR THAT RIGHT

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NOW.

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>> DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A BILLING

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TO DO THAT?

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>> YOU WILL SEE LEGISLATION TO

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DO THAT.

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BEFORE WE DO THAT I'D LIKE TO

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REDUCE THE SPENDING BY 10%.

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IT'S NOT ACROSS THE BOARD.

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WE TELL EVERY AGENCY HEAD REDO

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THE YOUR -- WE'RE ASKING THEM TO

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USE THEIR MANAGEMENT SKILLS.

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THEN WE'RE GOING TAKE THAT MONEY

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AND SPEND IT IN OUR UNIVERSITY

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COMMUNITIES.

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>> WELL, WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME

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FOR OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER

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SEGMENT.

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WE'D LIKE TO THANKS OR PANEL

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IT'S, MR. KENNEDY, MR. NAQUIN,

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REPRESENTATIVE HAVARD.

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WHEN WE COME BACK WE'LL HAVE A

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FEW CLOSING COMMENTS.

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>> WELL A LIVELY CONVERSATION

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AND I THINK IF THE VIEWERS WANT

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TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION THEY

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CAN GO TO THE DIVISION OF

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ADMINISTRATION WEBSITE.

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AND ALSO ONE OF OUR GUESTS HAS A

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WEBSITE SUNSHINE.ORG, RIGHT?

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>> YEAH, AND ALWAYS A GREAT

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CONVERSATION AND I ALWAYS LEARN

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A LOT FROM OUR GUESTS AND OUR

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PANELISTS.

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>> SECRETARY KENNEDY SAYS IT'LL

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TAKE YOU THREE YEARS TO SEE ALL

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OF THE CONTRACTS.

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IT'S A LOT OF READING.

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THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR

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THIS EDITION OF "LOUISIANA

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PUBLIC SQUARE."

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WE ENCOURAGE TO YOU VISIT OUR

56:10.767 --> 56:15.500
WEBSITE AT LPB.ORG/PUBLICSQUARE.

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WHILE THERE TAKE THIS MONTH'S

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SURVEY, VIEWER EXTENDED COMMENTS

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AND TONIGHT'S SHOW.

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DORIAN WRITES TO US, MINIMUM

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WAGE INCREMENTS SHOULD BE

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INCREASED ANNUALLY UNTIL IT

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REACHES NATIONAL LEVEL.

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CHARLENE WRITES, THIS IS VERY

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SIMPLE, RAISE MINIMUM WAGE SO

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PEOPLE CAN PAY BILLS AND HAVE

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ENOUGH LEFT TO DO THINGS WITH

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THEIR FAMILIES.

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>> THESE JOBS WERE CREATE THE A

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PART-TIME JOBS, THEY WERE NEVER

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INTENDED AS FULL-TIME FAMILY

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SUPPORT JOBS.

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>> THE MONTH OF MAY MEANS THE

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ENTRY THE THOUSANDS OF NEW

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COLLEGE GRADUATES INTO

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LOUISIANA'S JOB MARKET.

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THIS YEAR THESE JOB SEEKERS WILL

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BE JOINED BY HUNDREDS OF

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RETURNING VETERANS AS THE

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MILITARY DOWNSIZES TROOPS

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OVERSEAS.

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WHAT DOES LOUISIANA'S EMPLOYMENT

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MARKET LOOK LIKE FOR THESE JOB

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HUNTERS?

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JOIN US NEXT MONTH AND

57:10.133 --> 57:11.333
"LOUISIANA PUBLIC SQUARE" LOOKS

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FOR ANSWERS ON JOB MARKET 2014.

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GOOD NIGHT.

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NOTES

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