1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:01,666 (bright upbeat music) - [Narrator] Coming up 2 00:00:01,666 --> 00:00:03,100 on "Legacy List" with Matt Paxton. 3 00:00:03,100 --> 00:00:05,966 Matt is in Boston to help an old friend, 4 00:00:05,966 --> 00:00:07,433 clear out his family's home (indistinct talking) 5 00:00:07,433 --> 00:00:09,466 before putting it up for sale. 6 00:00:09,466 --> 00:00:11,933 - [Matt] I can hear it in your voice, like, oh, yeah, 7 00:00:11,933 --> 00:00:13,233 we have to sell the house, 8 00:00:13,233 --> 00:00:14,400 like we don't wanna do that. (man chuckles) 9 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,766 - [Narrator] Things get emotional, 10 00:00:15,766 --> 00:00:18,300 as they go through 40 years of memories. 11 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:19,566 - [Matt] Look at that. Yep! Whoo! 12 00:00:19,566 --> 00:00:20,966 - [Narrator] And, find one item that 13 00:00:20,966 --> 00:00:23,200 brings the past to life. 14 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,433 - [Audio Recording Child] Hi, I'm Zeb. 15 00:00:25,433 --> 00:00:26,900 - [Audio Recording Adult] Hi, I'm Dad. 16 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:29,600 - [Zebulon] (chuckles) Oh, wow. 17 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,300 [Audio Recording Child] (giggles) 18 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:32,400 - [Matt] I'm Matt Paxton. (upbeat music) 19 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,433 - [Matt] Let's do it, man. 20 00:00:34,433 --> 00:00:38,466 My team of specialists, Jamie, Mike, and Avi 21 00:00:38,466 --> 00:00:40,700 Help me, help people downsize 22 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:43,833 their homes and settle estates. 23 00:00:43,833 --> 00:00:45,233 As the largest population of baby boomers 24 00:00:45,233 --> 00:00:48,233 in American history transition towards retirement, 25 00:00:48,233 --> 00:00:50,900 they and their families face the overwhelming task 26 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:53,033 of emptying their homes to move. 27 00:00:53,033 --> 00:00:55,766 We help them sift through a lifetime of possessions- 28 00:00:55,766 --> 00:00:57,066 - [Pre-Recorded Avi] Bingo! 29 00:00:57,066 --> 00:00:58,766 - [Matt] heirlooms and collectibles. 30 00:00:58,766 --> 00:01:00,100 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] We have literally 31 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:01,600 found a piece of history - Here it is (laughter) 32 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,666 - [Matt] to help them find the missing family treasures 33 00:01:03,666 --> 00:01:05,600 that mean the most to them. 34 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,366 - [Pre-Recorded woman] Oh, my goodness! 35 00:01:07,366 --> 00:01:08,466 - [Matt] Jackie Robinson 36 00:01:08,466 --> 00:01:10,000 - [Matt] And along the way, 37 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,633 they'll discover that the most important museum in the world 38 00:01:11,633 --> 00:01:14,166 may be in their family's basement. 39 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:15,933 - [Pre-Recorded Women] Aw. Oh. 40 00:01:15,933 --> 00:01:17,433 - [Pre-Recorded Zebulon] I've never seen that. 41 00:01:17,433 --> 00:01:18,433 That is cool looking. 42 00:01:18,433 --> 00:01:19,800 - [Matt] From attics to sellers, 43 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,033 closets to cupboards, 44 00:01:21,033 --> 00:01:24,133 we uncover the memories they want to preserve. 45 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:25,633 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] This is living history. 46 00:01:25,633 --> 00:01:27,500 This is what we're here to find. Let's go! 47 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:29,733 - [Matt] and discover the compelling, personal, 48 00:01:29,733 --> 00:01:31,866 and often historical stories, 49 00:01:31,866 --> 00:01:36,166 spanning generations that are their family's legacy. 50 00:01:41,333 --> 00:01:44,600 - [Narrator] Funding for Legacy List is provided by 51 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,466 Wheaton World Wide Moving. 52 00:01:46,466 --> 00:01:48,700 Wheaton's number one goal is to help you, 53 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:50,566 your loved ones, and your belongings 54 00:01:50,566 --> 00:01:53,300 get to your new home quickly and safely. 55 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:56,433 You can find us at wheatonworldwide.com. 56 00:01:56,433 --> 00:01:59,433 Wheaton World Wide Moving, we move your life. 57 00:01:59,433 --> 00:02:00,966 FirstLight Home Care. 58 00:02:00,966 --> 00:02:03,766 Committed to providing safe and compassionate home services 59 00:02:03,766 --> 00:02:05,333 for you and your family. 60 00:02:05,333 --> 00:02:08,033 FirstLight believes personal relationships and engagement 61 00:02:08,033 --> 00:02:11,466 are as important as mobility, bathing, and personal hygiene. 62 00:02:11,466 --> 00:02:14,100 Details at FirstLightHomeCare.com. 63 00:02:15,033 --> 00:02:16,666 The Mavins Group, 64 00:02:16,666 --> 00:02:20,866 a downsizing real estate sales and move management company. 65 00:02:20,866 --> 00:02:23,500 Committed to easing the emotional and physical demands 66 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:25,400 of beginning a new stage of life. 67 00:02:26,633 --> 00:02:29,133 The Mavins Group, so much more than a move. 68 00:02:31,133 --> 00:02:34,933 Insure Long Term Care, where we believe that aging at home, 69 00:02:34,933 --> 00:02:36,366 near friends and family, 70 00:02:36,366 --> 00:02:39,333 is ever more possible for more people. 71 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:42,366 Learn more at insureltc.com. 72 00:02:44,733 --> 00:02:47,833 And by the Ruth Camp Campbell Foundation. 73 00:02:47,833 --> 00:02:50,400 (upbeat music) 74 00:02:59,866 --> 00:03:01,166 - [Matt] Today, we're right 75 00:03:01,166 --> 00:03:02,366 outside of Boston, (highway noise) 76 00:03:02,366 --> 00:03:04,233 visiting an old buddy of mine. Zebulon. 77 00:03:04,233 --> 00:03:07,600 He has a very challenging downsizing situation. 78 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,200 His mom has lived in this triple decker house 79 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,933 for over 40 years. 80 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:15,166 Now, it's time to move out and they need our help. 81 00:03:15,166 --> 00:03:16,333 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] Zebulon and I 82 00:03:16,333 --> 00:03:17,700 have known each other for a couple of 83 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:18,633 years, both professionally and as friends. 84 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:20,066 And he works for ASALH, 85 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:22,233 which is a group that really focuses on preserving 86 00:03:22,233 --> 00:03:24,133 African-American history. 87 00:03:24,133 --> 00:03:27,900 (strumming folk music) 88 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:29,133 - [Matt] Zebulon! - Hey, Matt! 89 00:03:29,133 --> 00:03:30,066 - [Matt] How are You Man? Good to see you. 90 00:03:30,066 --> 00:03:31,233 - [Zebulon] Good to see you. 91 00:03:31,233 --> 00:03:32,200 - [Matt] Very good to see you. 92 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,700 - [Zebulon] Thanks for coming. 93 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:34,533 - [Matt] This is awesome, the neighborhoods incredible. 94 00:03:34,533 --> 00:03:35,300 - [Zebulon] Yeah. Yeah. 95 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:36,766 Come on in. 96 00:03:36,766 --> 00:03:38,400 - [Matt] Look at this old thing, man. 97 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,600 - [Zebulon] Yeah, This has kind of 98 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,666 always been fascinating. (street car braking) 99 00:03:41,666 --> 00:03:43,666 - [Matt] I love it. It's like an old intercom system 100 00:03:43,666 --> 00:03:46,566 for three different apartments or, what was it? 101 00:03:46,566 --> 00:03:49,566 - [Zebulon] Some people call it triple decker and yeah, 102 00:03:49,566 --> 00:03:51,500 you'd be able to call up to each one and I think they'd be 103 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:52,833 able to call down. 104 00:03:52,833 --> 00:03:54,100 - [Matt] All right. 105 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:55,033 Well, let's check the rest of the house out 106 00:03:55,033 --> 00:03:56,266 and see what we've got to do. 107 00:03:56,266 --> 00:03:57,200 - [Zebulon] All right. Come on in. 108 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,166 (energetic folk guitar music) 109 00:04:02,733 --> 00:04:03,933 - [Matt] All right. 110 00:04:03,933 --> 00:04:04,733 Now here's the stuff I'm usually called for. 111 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:05,700 - [Zebulon] Yeah. This 112 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:07,266 is the stuff - The mess 113 00:04:07,266 --> 00:04:08,100 - [Zebulon] I was going to show you 114 00:04:08,100 --> 00:04:09,600 But yeah - Okay 115 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,600 - [Matt] So what am I looking at? Where is this all from? 116 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,866 - [Zebulon] Well, you know, 117 00:04:12,866 --> 00:04:14,333 some of this stuff is from, you know, 118 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:15,700 when my dad passed. 119 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:16,900 - [Matt] Okay. 120 00:04:16,900 --> 00:04:18,166 Lot of music, I see. A lot of music 121 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:19,233 - [Zebulon] Yeah 122 00:04:19,233 --> 00:04:20,800 - [Matt] and a lot of books. 123 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,033 - [Zebulon] There it is. 124 00:04:22,033 --> 00:04:24,066 My dad loved music and my mom loved books. 125 00:04:24,066 --> 00:04:25,933 - [Matt] Okay. There you go. (laugher) 126 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:28,333 Pretty simple. Tell me how long ago did your dad pass? 127 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,800 - [Zebulon] He passed in March of 2019. 128 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,433 - [Matt] Okay. So that's not that long ago. 129 00:04:32,433 --> 00:04:33,366 Really. 130 00:04:33,366 --> 00:04:34,800 - [Matt] Yeah. No, not really. 131 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,300 - [Matt] Okay. And your mom's situation, where is she? 132 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:38,866 - [Zebulon] My mom, it's been hard for her. 133 00:04:38,866 --> 00:04:40,900 You know, it's been really, they were very, 134 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:45,866 very close and I always knew that whichever one may pass 135 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:48,400 before the other, that it'd be hard 136 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,333 for the surviving person. 137 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:51,666 And that has been the case. 138 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:52,600 - [Matt] Okay. 139 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,100 When an adult child has to take 140 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:57,400 over the management of mom and the house, 141 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,733 you actually don't get time to grieve. 142 00:04:59,733 --> 00:05:01,033 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 143 00:05:01,033 --> 00:05:01,966 - [Matt] And you live in another city, right? 144 00:05:01,966 --> 00:05:02,900 - [Zebulon] Yeah, in New York. 145 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:04,166 - [Matt] So you're in New York. 146 00:05:04,166 --> 00:05:05,366 So, you're going to come back and forth. 147 00:05:05,366 --> 00:05:06,833 So, you've got travel, 148 00:05:06,833 --> 00:05:08,633 you've got the stress of managing your regular life. 149 00:05:08,633 --> 00:05:11,333 And then you got to deal with this whole life up here too. 150 00:05:11,333 --> 00:05:13,800 And you miss your dad and you're worried about your mom. 151 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,133 - [Zebulon] Now, you just described 152 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:17,400 my whole life right now - Yeah, dude, so 153 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,566 That's exactly where I am. (laughter) 154 00:05:18,566 --> 00:05:19,633 - [Matt] Okay. All right. 155 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:20,866 With all the people I help, 156 00:05:20,866 --> 00:05:22,533 it's usually the oldest adult child 157 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:24,233 that takes care of mom 158 00:05:24,233 --> 00:05:26,933 and Zebulon is in that situation. 159 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:29,566 Right. So, what's the overall goal here? 160 00:05:29,566 --> 00:05:30,566 Is the house for sale? 161 00:05:30,566 --> 00:05:31,500 Is someone moving? 162 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:32,666 What are we gonna be doing? 163 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:34,233 - [Zebulon] Yeah, we're selling the house. 164 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:35,466 - [Matt] Okay. 165 00:05:35,466 --> 00:05:36,466 - [Zebulon] Using some of the funds and things 166 00:05:36,466 --> 00:05:38,100 to help my mom move on - Okay 167 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:39,300 to the next point. 168 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,400 - [Matt] Common theme in downsizing. 169 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,933 The house is the asset 170 00:05:42,933 --> 00:05:45,700 that will fund the caregiving for mom. 171 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:46,633 - [Zebulon] That is the hope. 172 00:05:46,633 --> 00:05:47,900 That is what we're hoping for. 173 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:50,400 - [Matt] Man, I can hear it in your voice, like. 174 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,700 Oh, yeah, we have to sell the house. Like, we don't want 175 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:53,733 to do that. (chuckling) 176 00:05:53,733 --> 00:05:55,300 - [Zebulon] That's the problem. 177 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:56,233 - [Matt] Yeah. 178 00:05:56,233 --> 00:05:57,600 - [Zebulon] It's been so long. 179 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,800 - [Matt] Yeah. 180 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,466 - [Zebulon] That my mom's been living here. 181 00:05:59,466 --> 00:06:00,466 - [Matt] Yeah. 182 00:06:00,466 --> 00:06:01,133 - [Zebulon] And for all of us. 183 00:06:01,133 --> 00:06:02,333 - [Matt] Yeah. 184 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:03,533 - [Zebulon] Even me, I grew up here. 185 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:04,966 - [Matt] This is a story that we hear a lot. 186 00:06:04,966 --> 00:06:09,066 The family has saved for years to have a home for mom. 187 00:06:09,066 --> 00:06:10,600 But, now for mom to have a better place 188 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,333 to live, as she ages, 189 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:14,300 they're going to have to sell this home. 190 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:17,000 And both Zebulon's mom and his little brother are going 191 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,133 to have to find new places to live. 192 00:06:19,133 --> 00:06:20,700 - [Zebulon] I never knew when this time would be coming, 193 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:21,533 but I knew it was coming 194 00:06:21,533 --> 00:06:22,566 - [Matt] Yeah 195 00:06:22,566 --> 00:06:24,400 - [Zebulon] One day. 196 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,666 And it seems like this is it. 197 00:06:25,666 --> 00:06:26,600 - [Matt] And here we are. It's now. 198 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,366 - [Zebulon] It feels that way. 199 00:06:27,366 --> 00:06:29,200 (acoustic music) 200 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,166 - [Matt] What was it like growing up in this house? 201 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:33,066 Like, how many families? There was three different families? 202 00:06:33,066 --> 00:06:35,066 - [Zebulon] Yeah. There was three different families. 203 00:06:35,066 --> 00:06:35,966 Us being one of them. 204 00:06:35,966 --> 00:06:36,900 - [Matt] Yeah. 205 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:38,133 - [Zebulon] We were. Yeah. 206 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:39,933 And then, you know, family down here, 207 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:41,733 the family upstairs. 208 00:06:41,733 --> 00:06:44,400 You know, we were renting here 209 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,133 along with the other two families. 210 00:06:46,133 --> 00:06:47,733 One of whom was the owner. 211 00:06:47,733 --> 00:06:52,333 And eventually my parents bought them, bought the place. 212 00:06:52,333 --> 00:06:53,433 - [Matt] So your brother's above us. 213 00:06:53,433 --> 00:06:54,900 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 214 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:56,166 - [Matt] And then your mom's on the third floor. 215 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:57,433 - [Zebulon] Exactly. 216 00:06:57,433 --> 00:06:58,933 - [Matt] This floor is not so bad, obviously. 217 00:06:58,933 --> 00:07:01,133 I'm assuming there's more clutter somewhere else. 218 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:03,100 What else do I need to look at? 219 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:04,100 - [Zebulon] Well, obviously I have 220 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:05,833 to show you the third floor. 221 00:07:05,833 --> 00:07:06,766 - [Matt] Yeah. 222 00:07:06,766 --> 00:07:07,500 - [Zebulon] My mom lives. 223 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:08,766 - [Matt] Okay. 224 00:07:08,766 --> 00:07:10,533 - [Zebulon] And there's some closets and things. 225 00:07:10,533 --> 00:07:11,800 - [Matt] Mhmm. 226 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,066 - [Zebulon] And then there's the basement 227 00:07:13,066 --> 00:07:14,533 and I have no idea what's down there. 228 00:07:14,533 --> 00:07:15,966 - [Matt] All right. Well, let's start down in the basement. 229 00:07:15,966 --> 00:07:16,800 - [Zebulon] Okay. All right. 230 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,100 (strumming folk music) 231 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:21,533 - [Matt] Look at this. 232 00:07:21,533 --> 00:07:23,100 So, what's it like coming down here as a kid. 233 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:24,566 - [Zebulon] Well, my parents didn't 234 00:07:24,566 --> 00:07:25,766 like coming down here that much. 235 00:07:25,766 --> 00:07:27,233 - [Matt] Yeah, I believe it. 236 00:07:27,233 --> 00:07:29,133 This is kind of spooky and cool at the same time. 237 00:07:29,133 --> 00:07:30,366 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 238 00:07:30,366 --> 00:07:31,866 Me and my brother liked it down here. 239 00:07:31,866 --> 00:07:33,366 - [Matt] So, what kind of stuff is this over here? 240 00:07:33,366 --> 00:07:36,400 - [Zebulon] Some are from tenants and some is family. 241 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,233 Some is not. 242 00:07:37,233 --> 00:07:38,400 - [Matt] okay. 243 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,900 I'm seeing some sweet tags down here. 244 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:42,166 - [Zebulon] Yeah. (club music) 245 00:07:42,166 --> 00:07:43,366 - [Matt] Who were the fresh friends? 246 00:07:43,366 --> 00:07:45,500 - [Zebulon] (laughter) Fresh Friends crew 247 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:48,366 that goes back to, you know, the eighties. 248 00:07:48,366 --> 00:07:49,200 - [Zebulon] I mean 249 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,700 - [Matt] Yeah. 250 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:51,400 - [Zebulon] I would hang down here with some of my friends 251 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,633 - [Matt] Yeah. 252 00:07:52,633 --> 00:07:54,133 - [Zebulon] And we were, you know, 253 00:07:54,133 --> 00:07:55,466 into rap and hip hop and we tried our best to do a little 254 00:07:55,466 --> 00:07:57,233 graffiti. It's not, that's it. 255 00:07:57,233 --> 00:07:58,733 - [Matt] We got some Fat Boys, over here. 256 00:07:58,733 --> 00:08:00,433 We got the, was that y'all's group? 257 00:08:00,433 --> 00:08:01,266 The Fresh Friends? 258 00:08:01,266 --> 00:08:02,200 - [Zebulon] That's it. 259 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,233 Yeah. We were the Fresh Friends. 260 00:08:03,233 --> 00:08:05,266 Roxanne Roxanne, Fat Boys. 261 00:08:05,266 --> 00:08:07,333 Those were some of the names that we were really into. 262 00:08:07,333 --> 00:08:10,800 - [Matt] OH, I love it. What's the timeline on moving? 263 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,800 - [Zebulon] We've got about a month, maybe two. 264 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,800 - [Matt] Okay. 265 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,333 So, the space - Yes (sighs) 266 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:17,766 - has got to be empty for you to be able to sell this place. 267 00:08:17,766 --> 00:08:19,700 - [Zebulon] My uncle would say broom clean. 268 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:21,700 - [Matt] Yeah, broom swept, (laughter) 269 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:23,066 Is what the realtor's going to tell us. 270 00:08:23,066 --> 00:08:24,466 - [Pre-recorded Matt] There's no one room 271 00:08:24,466 --> 00:08:26,000 that's completely full, 272 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,833 but there's a little bit of stuff in every single room. 273 00:08:27,833 --> 00:08:30,133 So, by the time you get three floors and the basement done, 274 00:08:30,133 --> 00:08:31,533 it does add up. 275 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:32,666 And I can see why they need our help. 276 00:08:32,666 --> 00:08:33,900 - [Matt] All right. 277 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:35,133 Well, maybe it's time we go find a place, 278 00:08:35,133 --> 00:08:37,100 sit down and we'll go through the Legacy List. 279 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,433 - [Zebulon] That sounds great. 280 00:08:38,433 --> 00:08:40,833 - All right, let's do it. (guitar music) 281 00:08:40,833 --> 00:08:44,033 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] I feel the weight of this situation. 282 00:08:44,033 --> 00:08:45,766 It's very similar to my situation, 283 00:08:45,766 --> 00:08:46,666 with my mom. 284 00:08:46,666 --> 00:08:48,200 - [Zebulon] Mhmm. 285 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,133 - [Matt] Tried to get my mom to relocate to Atlanta where 286 00:08:49,133 --> 00:08:51,766 I moved and I got a flat, no. 287 00:08:51,766 --> 00:08:53,000 - [Zebulon] Okay. Yeah. (laughter) 288 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,966 - [Matt] Flat, no. Wasn't even a maybe. 289 00:08:54,966 --> 00:08:58,433 But it did instigate the process for her. 290 00:08:58,433 --> 00:08:59,366 - [Zebulon] Wow. 291 00:08:59,366 --> 00:09:00,600 - [Matt] So, it's interesting. 292 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,400 We're very in similar paths here. 293 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,633 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 294 00:09:02,633 --> 00:09:04,366 - [Matt] This isn't the stuff, downsizing. 295 00:09:04,366 --> 00:09:06,733 The stuff is pretty, you have enough volume 296 00:09:06,733 --> 00:09:08,133 where it's not that bad. 297 00:09:08,133 --> 00:09:10,566 I think this is more an emotional and a more like, hey, 298 00:09:10,566 --> 00:09:11,800 are we doing the right thing? 299 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,300 - [Zebulon] Yeah (sighs). 300 00:09:13,300 --> 00:09:14,366 - [Matt] How do we get this wrapped? How do we do it? 301 00:09:14,366 --> 00:09:15,300 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 302 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:17,700 - [Matt] The urgency is there. 303 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:20,666 - [Zebulon] (deep sigh) Yeah. It's hard. 304 00:09:20,666 --> 00:09:21,933 - [Matt] It is hard. 305 00:09:21,933 --> 00:09:23,700 It's why I'm here. (nervous laughter) 306 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:25,166 That's why we're here. I was glad you called me. 307 00:09:25,166 --> 00:09:26,900 We knew each other before this. We've helped each other out 308 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:27,733 professionally. 309 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:28,666 - [Zebulon] Yes. 310 00:09:28,666 --> 00:09:29,866 - [Matt] And it is an honor 311 00:09:29,866 --> 00:09:31,866 to be here in your home to help you, now, 312 00:09:31,866 --> 00:09:32,933 as a friend. 313 00:09:32,933 --> 00:09:35,233 So, thank you for having us. 314 00:09:36,166 --> 00:09:37,700 All right. 315 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:38,933 So, you called me here to help with the Legacy List. 316 00:09:38,933 --> 00:09:39,733 We're going to go through these items. 317 00:09:39,733 --> 00:09:40,866 - [Zebulon] All right. 318 00:09:40,866 --> 00:09:42,333 - [Matt] As a reminder to everybody, 319 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:44,066 a Legacy List item is an item that you want to hold onto 320 00:09:44,066 --> 00:09:46,333 that will help extend your family story 321 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:48,366 for generations to come. 322 00:09:48,366 --> 00:09:50,066 Lots of times you want us to help find those items. 323 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:52,900 And then sometimes you just need additional information on 324 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:55,466 items or other things in your house. 325 00:09:55,466 --> 00:09:57,033 What are our items? 326 00:09:57,033 --> 00:09:58,466 - [Zebulon] One thing 327 00:09:58,466 --> 00:10:01,366 that I've always been interested in is, you know, 328 00:10:01,366 --> 00:10:03,200 there's this medical bag 329 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,733 - [Matt] Okay. 330 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:07,066 - [Zebulon] That I know that someone in the family used. 331 00:10:07,066 --> 00:10:08,833 It might belong to my mom. 332 00:10:08,833 --> 00:10:12,433 Might have been something of hers because I know 333 00:10:12,433 --> 00:10:15,600 that she used to be a midwife. 334 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,133 - [Matt] Really? - And 335 00:10:17,133 --> 00:10:21,400 Yep, I remember her going out to help people have babies, 336 00:10:22,666 --> 00:10:23,500 I guess. 337 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,100 It's, I think it's like, 338 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:28,433 I remember it being like a black bag with handles. 339 00:10:28,433 --> 00:10:31,800 - [Matt] Okay. Old-school medical bag, big handle. 340 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,233 - [Zebulon] Yeah. I haven't seen it in years. 341 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:35,100 - [Matt] Okay. Alright. 342 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,633 Alright. So what's the next item? 343 00:10:37,633 --> 00:10:38,833 - [Zebulon] My dad loved music 344 00:10:38,833 --> 00:10:40,333 - [Matt] Mhmm. 345 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:42,466 - [Zebulon] And he was just, really personified who he was. 346 00:10:42,466 --> 00:10:44,000 - [Matt] Okay. 347 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,333 - [Zebulon] And he had this old, you know, reel-to-reel 348 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:46,266 - [Matt] Yeah. 349 00:10:46,266 --> 00:10:47,733 - [Zebulon] tape machine. Yeah. 350 00:10:47,733 --> 00:10:49,000 - [Matt] So would he record stuff? What would he do? 351 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,100 - [Zebulon] Yeah, I think he recorded stuff. 352 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:55,400 I know he loved to, you know, to record tapes. 353 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,600 - [Matt] Yeah. 354 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,400 - [Zebulon] He made mixed tapes, basically. 355 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,200 I guess we'd call them. 356 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,433 - [Matt] Yeah. 357 00:10:59,433 --> 00:11:00,433 - [Zebulon] And it was something like, 358 00:11:00,433 --> 00:11:01,633 I was always fascinated with. 359 00:11:01,633 --> 00:11:02,900 - [Matt] Okay. 360 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:04,066 - [Zebulon] First of all, he would never 361 00:11:04,066 --> 00:11:04,866 let me really touch it that much. 362 00:11:04,866 --> 00:11:05,800 (embarrassed laughter) 363 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,066 - [Matt] Well, How old were you? 364 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:08,533 - [Zebulon] Yeah. I think 365 00:11:08,533 --> 00:11:10,833 that's what made it so fascinating to me. 366 00:11:10,833 --> 00:11:14,100 It just had this aura of like specialness 367 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:17,066 and it really was special. 368 00:11:17,066 --> 00:11:18,933 I'd love to find that. 369 00:11:18,933 --> 00:11:20,433 - [Matt] Okay. 370 00:11:20,433 --> 00:11:23,733 - [Zebulon] It's probably, thing I treasure most. 371 00:11:23,733 --> 00:11:25,900 - [Matt] Do you remember listening to music with your dad? 372 00:11:25,900 --> 00:11:27,466 - [Zebulon] Oh, yeah. Of course. 373 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:30,300 That's what was special about it. (voice cracks) 374 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:32,400 Spending time with my dad. 375 00:11:33,566 --> 00:11:35,966 - [Matt] Miss your dad, man. 376 00:11:35,966 --> 00:11:36,966 (sniffle) 377 00:11:36,966 --> 00:11:38,400 - [Zebulon] I really do. 378 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,200 - [Matt] I know. 379 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,733 (sigh) 380 00:11:41,733 --> 00:11:44,500 - [Matt] Well, with the pandemic, 381 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:46,433 with caretaking and with life, 382 00:11:46,433 --> 00:11:50,400 you didn't get the proper grief cycle, you know. 383 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,800 And as you know.. 384 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,700 All right, need a second? - Sorry? 385 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:58,600 - [Matt] No, man, this is part of it. 386 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:59,433 Part of the journey 387 00:11:59,433 --> 00:12:00,433 (sigh) 388 00:12:00,433 --> 00:12:01,633 Part of going through the house. 389 00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:04,133 It's to cry and laugh and do it all. 390 00:12:04,133 --> 00:12:05,600 - [Zebulon] You can't- 391 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,400 - [Matt] If you haven't grieved what's in the house 392 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,233 you can't get rid of it. 393 00:12:07,233 --> 00:12:08,633 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 394 00:12:09,566 --> 00:12:11,866 - [Matt] So let's grieve it. 395 00:12:13,066 --> 00:12:14,000 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] He had a deep connection 396 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,633 with his father and it really 397 00:12:15,633 --> 00:12:17,533 kind of existed in music. 398 00:12:17,533 --> 00:12:19,133 And so, this reel-to-reel, 399 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,100 it's really important. 400 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:22,500 And that's why, I'm bringing Mike in on it. 401 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:23,700 Because it's probably 402 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:27,266 the most important item on the Legacy List. 403 00:12:27,266 --> 00:12:29,200 - [Matt] What's the next item we're looking at. 404 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,266 - [Zebulon] There used to be, like, this sewing machine. 405 00:12:32,266 --> 00:12:34,400 I remember seeing. 406 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,966 It's really old. 407 00:12:35,966 --> 00:12:40,466 So I know that it might've belonged, even to my grandmother? 408 00:12:41,933 --> 00:12:44,700 And my mom also loved to sew. 409 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:46,500 - [Matt] Was it in a base? 410 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:48,500 Or was it, have a handle you pick up? 411 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:50,666 - [Zebulon] It's in a, like it looks like a, lunchbox. 412 00:12:50,666 --> 00:12:51,700 - [Matt] All right. 413 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:52,866 So it's after 1900. - Ahh 414 00:12:52,866 --> 00:12:53,800 I know to much about these things. 415 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,933 - [Zebulon] Okay. All right. 416 00:12:54,933 --> 00:12:56,600 - [Matt] I know exactly, I will find it. 417 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,200 And I will learn lots about it. 418 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,866 - [Zebulon] All right. I remember it as a kid and 419 00:12:59,866 --> 00:13:03,666 something I, you know, stands out in my mind. 420 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:08,766 This next one's kinda, like, kind of really a mystery. 421 00:13:08,766 --> 00:13:10,733 This old adding machine. 422 00:13:10,733 --> 00:13:12,233 - [Matt] Okay. (piano music) 423 00:13:12,233 --> 00:13:15,800 - [Zebulon] I'm not sure who it belonged to, but, you know, 424 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,333 I know my grandfather, William Deare, he, 425 00:13:19,333 --> 00:13:21,966 he worked for Jordan Marsh Company. 426 00:13:21,966 --> 00:13:23,433 - [Matt] Okay. 427 00:13:23,433 --> 00:13:25,366 - [Zebulon] So, projections and futures and figures. 428 00:13:25,366 --> 00:13:26,866 That was his thing. 429 00:13:26,866 --> 00:13:28,366 - [Matt] Tell me about him. 430 00:13:28,366 --> 00:13:31,833 - [Zebulon] Ah, well, he's a quite a legend, you know. 431 00:13:31,833 --> 00:13:33,166 Fought in world war II 432 00:13:33,166 --> 00:13:34,000 - [Matt] Okay. 433 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,066 - [Zebulon] veteran. 434 00:13:36,066 --> 00:13:39,200 He was stationed in Tuskegee, Alabama. 435 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,433 He wasn't a flyer himself, 436 00:13:40,433 --> 00:13:43,700 but he worked with Tuskegee airmen. 437 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:48,666 But when he came back from world war II to Boston, you know, 438 00:13:49,866 --> 00:13:52,466 he was able to buy his own home for the family. 439 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:53,933 At that time. 440 00:13:53,933 --> 00:13:55,900 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] Race is a part of Zebulon's story. 441 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:57,900 We're in Boston. 442 00:13:57,900 --> 00:13:59,766 That is a town that's had historically 443 00:13:59,766 --> 00:14:01,700 challenging race relations. 444 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:05,600 And Zebulon grew up in this town, a mixed race child. 445 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,900 And he is an African-American History professor. 446 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:11,166 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 447 00:14:11,166 --> 00:14:12,733 As a black man at that time coming to Boston. 448 00:14:12,733 --> 00:14:16,900 He probably saw and experienced a lot of things. 449 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:18,066 - [Matt] Yes! 450 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:19,300 (laughter) 451 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:20,566 - [Zebulon] But it didn't stop him. 452 00:14:20,566 --> 00:14:23,033 You know, he was a real 453 00:14:23,033 --> 00:14:25,133 kind of cornerstone builder. 454 00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:26,266 - [Matt] Okay. 455 00:14:28,833 --> 00:14:30,066 (laughter) 456 00:14:30,066 --> 00:14:31,533 - [Matt] All right. What else do we have? 457 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:34,700 - [Zebulon] I know that there's been work on our genealogy. 458 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:35,933 - [Matt] Okay. 459 00:14:35,933 --> 00:14:37,166 - [Zebulon] I know my mom's done some. 460 00:14:37,166 --> 00:14:39,066 I know my uncle has done some too, 461 00:14:39,066 --> 00:14:41,400 but I'd love to know more about it. 462 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,233 - [Matt] Okay. 463 00:14:42,233 --> 00:14:43,066 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 464 00:14:43,066 --> 00:14:44,266 - [Matt] This is the one 465 00:14:44,266 --> 00:14:45,766 that means the most to me, as well. 466 00:14:45,766 --> 00:14:46,833 I want to find out more information for you guys. 467 00:14:46,833 --> 00:14:47,733 This is great, man. 468 00:14:47,733 --> 00:14:49,133 We can do all of this. 469 00:14:49,133 --> 00:14:51,033 on top of that, we're going to need 470 00:14:51,033 --> 00:14:52,333 to help you clean up a little bit. 471 00:14:52,333 --> 00:14:53,600 - [Zebulon] Okay. 472 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,400 - [Matt] I want to get down to the basement. 473 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,200 Help you get that ready. 474 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,466 I want to get the, 475 00:14:56,466 --> 00:14:57,400 get the rooms that I saw cleaned out. 476 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,333 - [Zebulon] right on. 477 00:14:58,333 --> 00:14:59,500 - [Matt] All right, dude. 478 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:01,000 I appreciate it. Appreciate your time. 479 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,933 - [Zebulon] Yes, sir. 480 00:15:01,933 --> 00:15:03,166 - [Matt] I'm gonna get to work. 481 00:15:03,166 --> 00:15:04,600 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] I wanted to get my team 482 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,600 in here to get everything that we possibly can 483 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,133 out of this house 484 00:15:07,133 --> 00:15:08,600 so that it makes the decision 485 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,300 as easy as possible for Zebulon and Veronica. 486 00:15:17,633 --> 00:15:20,666 (instrumental music) 487 00:15:23,033 --> 00:15:24,033 - [Mike] Hello? 488 00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:25,233 - [Jamie] Knock, knock? 489 00:15:25,233 --> 00:15:26,066 - [Matt] I'm back here. 490 00:15:26,066 --> 00:15:27,600 - [Jamie] Hello? 491 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,100 - [Avi] Where is right here? - Where? 492 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:31,066 - [Matt] Follow my voice. I'm back here. 493 00:15:31,066 --> 00:15:32,166 Can you hear me? 494 00:15:32,166 --> 00:15:33,000 - [Jamie] Follow your Voice. 495 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,833 - [Mike] Oh, boy. 496 00:15:33,833 --> 00:15:34,766 - [Matt] Hey guys. 497 00:15:34,766 --> 00:15:35,566 - [Jamie] Well, there he is. 498 00:15:35,566 --> 00:15:36,833 - [Matt] What's up? 499 00:15:36,833 --> 00:15:37,766 - [Avi] What's up? What's happenin'? 500 00:15:37,766 --> 00:15:38,700 - [Matt] Welcome to Boston. 501 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:39,500 - [Jamie] How's it going?. 502 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:40,300 - [Matt] How are you? 503 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,100 - [Jamie] Bean town. 504 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:41,766 - [Matt] Bean town. 505 00:15:41,766 --> 00:15:42,433 How's the trip? 506 00:15:42,433 --> 00:15:43,233 - [Mike] Good. 507 00:15:43,233 --> 00:15:44,033 - [Avi] Great trip. 508 00:15:44,033 --> 00:15:45,566 - [Jamie] It was good. 509 00:15:45,566 --> 00:15:46,733 I took the train up and it went all along the coast. 510 00:15:46,733 --> 00:15:47,666 It was really pretty. 511 00:15:47,666 --> 00:15:48,400 - [Matt] Oh, that's cool. 512 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,233 - [Jamie] Yeah. 513 00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:50,500 - [Matt] All right. 514 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:51,933 This is a, is a deep one, this week guys. 515 00:15:51,933 --> 00:15:53,433 Really good family. 516 00:15:53,433 --> 00:15:55,300 Zebulon Miletsky, if you remember him 517 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:56,566 from our work with ASALH. 518 00:15:56,566 --> 00:15:57,766 - [Avi] Yeah, absolutely. 519 00:15:57,766 --> 00:15:59,666 - [Matt] This is his childhood home. 520 00:15:59,666 --> 00:16:03,366 So they've been here for 40 plus years and it's time for mom 521 00:16:03,366 --> 00:16:04,166 to move. 522 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,466 I'm not sure if she's committed to that yet, but 523 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:08,400 (laughter) 524 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,833 But Zebulon and his brother are. 525 00:16:09,833 --> 00:16:11,533 - [Mike] Getting a house ready for sale. 526 00:16:11,533 --> 00:16:14,366 That's a very defined project. 527 00:16:14,366 --> 00:16:15,766 Convincing mom that it's time 528 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:18,000 to move and actually moving her. 529 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,900 It's a much bigger job. 530 00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:23,466 - [Jamie] It sounds like, kind of a common theme 531 00:16:23,466 --> 00:16:24,700 with our clients. - Very common. 532 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:26,966 Where like, they know parent needs to move 533 00:16:26,966 --> 00:16:27,900 - [Matt] Mhmm. 534 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:28,700 - [Jamie] But parents not ready. 535 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,166 - [Matt] Yeah. 536 00:16:30,166 --> 00:16:31,633 They're waiting to see how well the house sells. 537 00:16:31,633 --> 00:16:35,100 They have not picked a place for their mother to go. 538 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:36,300 - [Jamie] Mhmm. 539 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:37,300 - [Matt] which is kind of, we see that. 540 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:38,566 - [Avi] Yeah. 541 00:16:38,566 --> 00:16:39,833 - [Matt] They're just a little, a little stuck. 542 00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:42,233 - [Jamie] Sounds like he just needs some support, 543 00:16:42,233 --> 00:16:43,400 some outside support 544 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,600 - [Matt] Mhmm. 545 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,300 - [Jamie] And maybe some resources- 546 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:46,800 - [Matt] Yes! 547 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,600 - [Jamie] To help him get through this transition. 548 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,833 - [Matt] Definitely. 549 00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:50,766 - [Pre-Recorded Jamie] Moving a parent is a 550 00:16:50,766 --> 00:16:52,900 highly emotional event. 551 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:55,766 Coming to grips with the fact that the people that you love 552 00:16:55,766 --> 00:16:58,533 are aging can be really hard. 553 00:16:58,533 --> 00:16:59,700 - [Mike] So, Matt. 554 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:00,566 What are we looking for this week? 555 00:17:00,566 --> 00:17:01,500 - [Matt] All right. 556 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,933 Very emotional Legacy List. 557 00:17:02,933 --> 00:17:05,133 We've got a reel-to-reel, that was his dad's. 558 00:17:05,133 --> 00:17:06,966 I don't know if we'll find any actual reels or not, 559 00:17:06,966 --> 00:17:09,533 but the machine he really wants to find. 560 00:17:09,533 --> 00:17:10,766 - [Avi] Mhm. 561 00:17:10,766 --> 00:17:12,266 - [Matt] we've got an old adding machine. 562 00:17:12,266 --> 00:17:14,800 That was his grandfather's and then we've got his, 563 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,966 thinks it's his grandmother's old singer sewing machine. 564 00:17:18,966 --> 00:17:22,266 And then, his mom's old medical bag. 565 00:17:22,266 --> 00:17:27,166 His mom was a midwife in Berkeley, in the sixties. 566 00:17:27,166 --> 00:17:28,000 - [Mike] Wow. 567 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,933 - [Jamie] Wow. 568 00:17:28,933 --> 00:17:29,866 - [Matt] Yeah. Really cool. 569 00:17:29,866 --> 00:17:30,800 - [Jamie] That's incredible. 570 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,733 - [Matt] Yeah. She's here. 571 00:17:31,733 --> 00:17:33,233 She's on the third floor. 572 00:17:33,233 --> 00:17:33,900 So hopefully she'll be able to help us out with that. 573 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:34,700 - [Jamie] Wow. 574 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:36,233 - [Avi] That'd be great 575 00:17:36,233 --> 00:17:37,166 - [Matt] And then the last one is a more common one. 576 00:17:37,166 --> 00:17:38,700 We're hearing more and more. 577 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:40,766 They have a lot of information from their family history and 578 00:17:40,766 --> 00:17:41,833 they want additional help 579 00:17:41,833 --> 00:17:44,033 with that genealogy. 580 00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:46,266 His mom had done a lot of it and she kind of hit a 581 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:47,266 brick wall. 582 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:48,466 - [Mike] Wow 583 00:17:48,466 --> 00:17:49,266 - [Matt] So, we'll get our team together 584 00:17:49,266 --> 00:17:49,933 to work on that as well. 585 00:17:49,933 --> 00:17:51,333 - [Jamie] Yeah- 586 00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:52,133 - [Avi] Yeah, I'm looking forward to talking 587 00:17:52,133 --> 00:17:53,400 to him about that. 588 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,633 - [Matt] They have a ton of history. 589 00:17:54,633 --> 00:17:56,133 We need to put the puzzle together. 590 00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:58,600 We also need to clean out the basement and a couple of the 591 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,100 rooms on this level. 592 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:01,466 - [Mike] Okay. 593 00:18:01,466 --> 00:18:02,800 - [Matt] You guys will stay on this floor 594 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,333 mainly because the records are here 595 00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:05,633 and I need you to go through all the records. 596 00:18:05,633 --> 00:18:06,933 - [Mike] Oh, I'd love to. 597 00:18:06,933 --> 00:18:09,500 - [Matt] Music is what Zebulon remembers 598 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,933 about his dad. 599 00:18:10,933 --> 00:18:11,766 - [Mike] That's awesome. 600 00:18:11,766 --> 00:18:13,000 - [Matt] So, I'm excited 601 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:13,700 to see what else you can find up here. 602 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:14,533 - [Mike] Okay. 603 00:18:14,533 --> 00:18:15,833 Well, we'll just have 604 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:17,733 to work with the family and figure out what 605 00:18:17,733 --> 00:18:19,200 are the most important items and what needs to happen. 606 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,200 - [Matt] Okay. 607 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,666 Jamie and Mike can start in there. 608 00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:24,000 Avi, you and I are going to go down to the basement. 609 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,933 - [Avi] Let's do it. 610 00:18:24,933 --> 00:18:25,733 - [All] All right. All right. 611 00:18:25,733 --> 00:18:27,033 - [Jamie] Have fun. 612 00:18:27,033 --> 00:18:27,700 - [Matt} We'll see you guys in a little bit. 613 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:29,100 - [Mike] See ya. 614 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:30,033 - Holler if you need help - If it gets hot, 615 00:18:30,033 --> 00:18:30,733 come on down to the basement. 616 00:18:30,733 --> 00:18:31,733 (laughter) 617 00:18:31,733 --> 00:18:34,300 - [Jamie] That's where the AC is. 618 00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:38,866 (peppy jazz music) 619 00:18:40,733 --> 00:18:41,666 - [Avi] The basement. 620 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:43,666 - [Matt] Typical basement. 621 00:18:43,666 --> 00:18:45,833 - [Avi] Ooh, typical basement smells. 622 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,100 So, these triple deckers, 623 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,966 like Jamie was mentioning. 624 00:18:48,966 --> 00:18:51,066 I mean, they have three of everything, right? 625 00:18:51,066 --> 00:18:51,900 - [Matt] Everything. 626 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:53,333 Heat, air. 627 00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:56,933 - [Matt] New electrical boxes. Triples of everything. 628 00:18:56,933 --> 00:18:58,866 - [Pre-Recorded Avi] I personally 629 00:18:58,866 --> 00:19:00,100 had never seen a triple decker home, like this. 630 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:01,566 I knew they were pretty common in Boston. 631 00:19:01,566 --> 00:19:03,000 - [Avi] I mean, it was the way of living, right? 632 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,300 I mean this how Boston grew. 633 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,833 - [Narrator] The triple decker. 634 00:19:07,833 --> 00:19:09,600 It's not just a sandwich. 635 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,600 The name also refers to a three-story dwelling that houses 636 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,666 a different family on each floor. 637 00:19:14,666 --> 00:19:16,966 They become popular (swing music) 638 00:19:16,966 --> 00:19:19,800 during the late 19th century and are inhabited 639 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,733 mainly by immigrant families seeking affordable housing. 640 00:19:23,733 --> 00:19:25,500 Where were they most popular? 641 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,333 Boston, of course. 642 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:30,566 The New York times declares, living in a triple decker is as 643 00:19:30,566 --> 00:19:34,200 much a part of the Boston cultural experience as despising 644 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,833 the Yankees. 645 00:19:35,833 --> 00:19:37,100 (crowd boos) 646 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:39,233 The beauty of the triple decker is 647 00:19:39,233 --> 00:19:41,066 that it gives working class families 648 00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:44,366 a shot at owning their own homes. 649 00:19:44,366 --> 00:19:46,033 They can live in one unit 650 00:19:46,033 --> 00:19:47,933 and rent out the other two (door bell rings) 651 00:19:47,933 --> 00:19:50,133 And unlike cramped tenements, 652 00:19:50,133 --> 00:19:51,900 triple deckers offer working people, 653 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,433 dignified living conditions with working bathrooms and 654 00:19:55,433 --> 00:19:58,100 windows on four sides of the house. 655 00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:59,800 By the 20th century, 656 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,266 triple deckers are a fixture in Boston's Irish 657 00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:04,866 and Italian neighborhoods. 658 00:20:04,866 --> 00:20:06,433 But there's a backlash. 659 00:20:06,433 --> 00:20:10,100 Housing planners favor suburban sprawl over density 660 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:12,333 and triple deckers are banned. 661 00:20:12,333 --> 00:20:13,600 Some believe, it's a way 662 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,166 for city officials to curtail immigration. 663 00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:18,433 By the 1950s, 664 00:20:18,433 --> 00:20:21,133 families flee the city for the suburbs 665 00:20:21,133 --> 00:20:23,600 and many of these historical icons 666 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,333 fall into disrepair. 667 00:20:25,333 --> 00:20:29,800 But leave it to the triple decker to have the last laugh. 668 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,166 As cities like Boston face new housing crises, 669 00:20:33,166 --> 00:20:36,866 the triple decker is a prime candidate for rehabilitation. 670 00:20:36,866 --> 00:20:38,500 With a little work, 671 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,533 these hundred year old structure's provide energy efficient, 672 00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:46,466 affordable housing to a whole new generation of families. 673 00:20:46,466 --> 00:20:48,700 There's no place like home. 674 00:20:50,566 --> 00:20:53,133 (upbeat music) 675 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,666 - [Matt] Moving a couch doesn't really excite me, 676 00:20:56,666 --> 00:21:00,066 but getting to dig through somebody's records and CDs 677 00:21:00,066 --> 00:21:02,100 that is what I want to do. 678 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,533 - [Matt] I'm going to name the album title. 679 00:21:04,533 --> 00:21:06,166 And you tell me who the artist is. 680 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:07,533 - [Jamie] Okay. 681 00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:09,733 - [Matt] Always On My Mind. 682 00:21:11,366 --> 00:21:13,066 - [Jamie] This is not a fun game for Me. 683 00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:15,000 - [Matt] Jamie, This is the first one! 684 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,433 That was Willie Nelson. 685 00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:18,166 - [Jamie] Okay. Never would've gotten that, Matt. 686 00:21:18,166 --> 00:21:19,133 - [Matt] All, right. No peeking by the way. 687 00:21:19,133 --> 00:21:20,000 Word of Mouth. 688 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,200 - [Jamie] The Kinks. 689 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,566 - [Matt] Ja-You're peeking. I can tell it. 690 00:21:22,566 --> 00:21:24,133 - [Jamie] I'm definitely not. 691 00:21:24,133 --> 00:21:25,533 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] His dad was such a music lover 692 00:21:25,533 --> 00:21:28,333 that I was just having a blast digging 693 00:21:28,333 --> 00:21:30,266 through this collection. 694 00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:32,500 - [Matt] Here's one of the most iconic album covers 695 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:33,333 of all time. 696 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:35,800 - [Jamie] All, right. 697 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,033 - [Matt] You know what it is? 698 00:21:37,033 --> 00:21:38,600 - [Jamie] No idea. 699 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,033 - [Matt] You've never seen this? 700 00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:41,500 - [Jamie] Is that really an album? 701 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:45,300 - [Matt] Yeah! It's the white album by the Beatles. 702 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:46,600 - [Jamie] For real? 703 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,966 - [Matt] Yeah. I mean, somebody painted on it, 704 00:21:47,966 --> 00:21:50,400 but it's The White Album 705 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,233 (laughter) 706 00:21:51,233 --> 00:21:52,300 And believe it or not, 707 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:53,833 this is a thing, like, 708 00:21:53,833 --> 00:21:56,800 a lot of people embellish their White Album covers. 709 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,233 - [Jamie] Okay. That's kind of cool. 710 00:21:58,233 --> 00:21:59,166 - [Matt] It is. 711 00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:00,466 - [Jamie] you know, music is one 712 00:22:00,466 --> 00:22:02,233 of those things that can instantly take you 713 00:22:02,233 --> 00:22:05,000 into, like a moment of nostalgia. 714 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,766 I mean, Zeb could put one of those on 715 00:22:06,766 --> 00:22:08,533 and immediately be transported back 716 00:22:08,533 --> 00:22:11,166 to a time when he was listening to 'em with his parents. 717 00:22:11,166 --> 00:22:12,800 - [Matt] Absolutely. 718 00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:17,566 (ska music) 719 00:22:17,566 --> 00:22:18,700 Old snowboard. 720 00:22:25,633 --> 00:22:27,733 - [Avi] I got some good, good tapes over here, man. 721 00:22:27,733 --> 00:22:29,200 - [Matt] Yeah? 722 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,733 - [Avi] Austin Powers, little White Men Can't Jump. 723 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:34,900 - [Matt] I think they watched, I mean, 724 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:37,133 - [Avi] Back to the Future. 725 00:22:37,133 --> 00:22:37,900 - [Matt] Oh my God. 726 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:39,400 (laughter) 727 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,633 - [Matt] Back to the future and Ferris Beuller's Day Off. 728 00:22:41,633 --> 00:22:42,800 - [Avi] And Commando. 729 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,133 Oh. Schwartzenegger. 730 00:22:45,133 --> 00:22:46,166 - [Matt] It's everything we did. 731 00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:47,833 - [Avi] it is. I feel like I'm, 732 00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:51,666 you know, I'm going through my stuff at home. 733 00:22:51,666 --> 00:22:53,600 - [Zebulon] Hey 734 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,966 - [Matt] How's it doing Zebulon? 735 00:22:54,966 --> 00:22:56,433 - [Zebulon] pretty good. Not too bad. 736 00:22:56,433 --> 00:22:59,400 You know. I see you got some stuff going on out here. 737 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,900 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] Usually it's the furniture 738 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:03,566 and the beds and the dishes. They all go first. 739 00:23:03,566 --> 00:23:06,566 And then it's the personal effects like records and photos 740 00:23:06,566 --> 00:23:09,366 and things like that. That go last. 741 00:23:09,366 --> 00:23:11,133 And that was the case here. 742 00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:12,800 - [Matt] Is there any category that you could say, 743 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,233 either ,I definitely know I want 744 00:23:14,233 --> 00:23:15,700 to keep all of these or I definitely know 745 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:17,933 I don't need any of them. 746 00:23:17,933 --> 00:23:19,466 - [Zebulon] Oh yeah. 747 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:21,766 Well, the family photos, I mean, I got to keep those. 748 00:23:21,766 --> 00:23:23,033 - [Jamie] Okay. Keep family photos. 749 00:23:23,033 --> 00:23:23,866 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 750 00:23:23,866 --> 00:23:24,700 - [Jamie] That's great. 751 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:25,866 (laughter) 752 00:23:25,866 --> 00:23:27,333 - [Matt] Any thought on the books? 753 00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:28,700 - [Zebulon] I think I could definitely give away the books. 754 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:29,533 - [Jamie And Matt] Okay. 755 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:30,800 - [Jamie] Okay. 756 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,900 This is a lot of your mom's stuff from her, 757 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:35,300 when she was a midwife. 758 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:36,600 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 759 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,133 - [Jamie] I mean, is that something 760 00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:39,133 that we want to think about keeping and sorting through? 761 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:39,966 - [Zebulon] Definitely. 762 00:23:39,966 --> 00:23:41,200 - [Jamie] Okay. 763 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,866 - [Zebulon] Yeah. That is really important. 764 00:23:41,866 --> 00:23:43,400 - [Jamie] Okay. 765 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,900 - [Zebulon] And thank you for, for putting it aside, 766 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:46,833 because that is obviously super important. 767 00:23:46,833 --> 00:23:47,666 - [Jamie] Yeah. 768 00:23:47,666 --> 00:23:48,500 - [Matt] Absolutely. 769 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:51,233 (folk music) 770 00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:53,566 - [Narrator] As long as babies have been born, 771 00:23:53,566 --> 00:23:57,033 midwives have been there to catch them. 772 00:23:57,033 --> 00:23:58,733 Until a hundred years ago, (newborn crying) 773 00:23:58,733 --> 00:24:01,500 most women give birth at home, 774 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,333 surrounded by a midwife, family and friends. 775 00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:07,500 Childbirth in medieval Europe and colonial America is a 776 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:09,266 ladies social event. 777 00:24:09,266 --> 00:24:12,933 For centuries midwifery is the rare domain 778 00:24:12,933 --> 00:24:17,366 in which women are widely respected as wise elders. 779 00:24:17,366 --> 00:24:19,333 But, as medicine becomes 780 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:24,633 more specialized in the 20th century, 781 00:24:24,633 --> 00:24:27,100 obstetrics displaces, midwifery. 782 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,500 Wealthy women flock to male doctors 783 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,200 who promise the latest equipment and painless deliveries. 784 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,400 Seeing midwives as competition for profits and patients, 785 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,033 obstetricians launch an ad campaign to discredit midwives. 786 00:24:39,033 --> 00:24:39,833 It works. 787 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,066 In 1907, a Massachusetts Supreme court ruling 788 00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:46,666 makes midwifery illegal. 789 00:24:46,666 --> 00:24:50,433 But nevertheless, midwifery persists. 790 00:24:50,433 --> 00:24:52,066 In rural Southern communities, 791 00:24:52,066 --> 00:24:56,100 black Southern midwives known as Granny or Grand Midwives 792 00:24:56,100 --> 00:25:00,500 care for mothers who can't access segregated hospitals. 793 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,533 They're champions of Public Health. 794 00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:03,966 Instrumental in vaccinating 795 00:25:03,966 --> 00:25:05,933 their communities against disease. 796 00:25:05,933 --> 00:25:09,366 One notable Grand Midwife is Mary Coley. 797 00:25:09,366 --> 00:25:14,333 She helps deliver an estimated 3,000 Georgia babies. 798 00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:16,766 When it comes to midwifery, 799 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:19,066 the US remains an outlier among affluent countries. 800 00:25:19,066 --> 00:25:22,600 Midwives here, attend about 10% of births. 801 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,200 In France, Sweden and Norway, 802 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,600 midwives oversee the majority of deliveries. 803 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,033 Across the pond, in the United Kingdom 804 00:25:30,033 --> 00:25:32,600 midwives deliver half of all babies. 805 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,900 Including, Kate Middleton's. 806 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:36,366 (bell dings) 807 00:25:36,366 --> 00:25:39,066 American midwifery is slowly making a comeback. 808 00:25:39,066 --> 00:25:41,533 Today, there are around 11,000 809 00:25:41,533 --> 00:25:44,166 American certified nurse midwives. 810 00:25:44,166 --> 00:25:46,433 And like they've done for centuries, 811 00:25:46,433 --> 00:25:48,700 they guide mothers through the anticipation, 812 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:51,166 pain and wonder of childbirth. 813 00:25:54,466 --> 00:25:57,866 (instrumental music) 814 00:25:57,866 --> 00:25:59,233 - [Jamie] We're going to get the rest 815 00:25:59,233 --> 00:26:00,533 of this room cleaned up and a little bit 816 00:26:00,533 --> 00:26:02,066 more organized for you. 817 00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:04,866 And, we're going to pack up all of the family photos 818 00:26:04,866 --> 00:26:07,166 and documents that we find for keep. 819 00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:09,066 And, we're also going to pack up all of your mom's stuff 820 00:26:09,066 --> 00:26:11,933 that's related to her career to keep. 821 00:26:11,933 --> 00:26:13,500 - [Zebulon] That sounds great. Y 822 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,366 - [Matt] You know, 823 00:26:15,366 --> 00:26:16,666 as far as the tapes and records are concerned, 824 00:26:16,666 --> 00:26:17,900 I'll go through 'em. 825 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:18,833 If I see anything with any real value, 826 00:26:18,833 --> 00:26:20,400 I'll pull 'em to the side. 827 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,233 - [Zebulon] That will be amazing. 828 00:26:21,233 --> 00:26:22,133 (laughter) 829 00:26:22,133 --> 00:26:23,633 - [Jamie] Yeah. 830 00:26:23,633 --> 00:26:25,133 - [Jamie Pre-Recorded] In a situation like Zebulon's, 831 00:26:25,133 --> 00:26:26,633 it's really important for him to have the support 832 00:26:26,633 --> 00:26:30,100 around him so that he can keep the process moving forward. 833 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:32,700 So, I was really grateful that we could be part of that. 834 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:33,633 - [Jamie] So, our goal is 835 00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:34,833 to get this room cleaned up 836 00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:36,966 and really get you ready to move. 837 00:26:36,966 --> 00:26:39,566 - [Zebulon] That sounds great. I'll leave you to it. 838 00:26:39,566 --> 00:26:40,666 (laughter) 839 00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:41,666 - [Jamie] Sounds good. Thanks. 840 00:26:41,666 --> 00:26:42,600 - [Matt] Thanks, Zebulon. 841 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,566 - [Zebulon] Thanks again. 842 00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:53,266 (banging and sorting) 843 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:08,966 - [Matt] Ooh, I've got a lot of movies, man. 844 00:27:08,966 --> 00:27:10,433 - [Avi] I'm telling you. 845 00:27:10,433 --> 00:27:14,833 - [Matt] I mean, I watched Ace Ventura, 400 times 846 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:18,533 Uh, oh. Here we are. Here's the real thing. 847 00:27:18,533 --> 00:27:20,300 Oh, look at that. 848 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,266 - [Avi] That is cool. 849 00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:24,466 - [Matt] That is an old, look at that. 850 00:27:24,466 --> 00:27:25,300 - [Avi] That's it! 851 00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:26,500 - [Matt] Look- 852 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:27,433 - [Avi] look at the condition of this thing. 853 00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:28,600 - [Matt] I know, really. 854 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,000 - [Avi] That's a great find there, man. 855 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,466 - [Matt] It's beautiful. 856 00:27:31,466 --> 00:27:33,866 I know it really represents his grandfather being a 857 00:27:33,866 --> 00:27:36,333 successful young man after the war. 858 00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:37,366 - [Avi] Yeah. 859 00:27:38,633 --> 00:27:39,966 - [Pre-Recorded Avi] Not only did 860 00:27:39,966 --> 00:27:41,500 this machine represent Zebulon's 861 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:44,066 grandfather's rise in his own career, 862 00:27:44,066 --> 00:27:47,366 but it was a opportunity for the family to rise. 863 00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:49,766 This opportunity gave his family 864 00:27:49,766 --> 00:27:52,066 a chance for upper mobility. 865 00:27:53,566 --> 00:27:55,800 - [Matt] Yeah, it's a Locked Pay Master Protection. 866 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,333 So, this was for the guy that had to cut the checks. 867 00:27:58,333 --> 00:27:59,600 - [Avi] Absolutely. 868 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,933 - [Matt] That is a Legacy List item. 869 00:28:00,933 --> 00:28:02,233 This is really, really cool. 870 00:28:02,233 --> 00:28:03,733 - [Avi] That's fascinating. 871 00:28:03,733 --> 00:28:05,100 - [Matt] I know Zebulon's got a lot of pride in this. 872 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,333 All right, I'm putting this to the side. 873 00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:07,500 - [Avi] That's awesome. 874 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:08,433 - [Matt] All right. Keep looking. 875 00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:09,266 - [Avi] Good. Good finding. 876 00:28:09,266 --> 00:28:11,733 (organ music) 877 00:28:12,833 --> 00:28:13,766 - [Jamie] All right. 878 00:28:13,766 --> 00:28:15,100 Why don't you finish up in here? 879 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:16,033 - [Matt] Mhm. 880 00:28:16,033 --> 00:28:17,300 - [Jamie] There's a closet 881 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:17,966 that I need to check in this other room. 882 00:28:17,966 --> 00:28:18,800 You got it? 883 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,733 - [Matt] I got this. 884 00:28:19,733 --> 00:28:20,533 - [Jamie] I can leave you alone? 885 00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:21,366 - [Matt] I think so. 886 00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:22,566 - [Jamie] All right. 887 00:28:22,566 --> 00:28:23,966 Let me know if you find anything. 888 00:28:23,966 --> 00:28:25,333 - [Matt] Oh, you know, I will 889 00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:27,900 (upbeat music) 890 00:28:40,666 --> 00:28:42,366 - [Avi] Ah, oh, Matt. 891 00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:44,533 - [Matt] What'd you find? 892 00:28:44,533 --> 00:28:47,733 - [Avi] Yeah. Had to even the things up here. 893 00:28:47,733 --> 00:28:48,766 (banging of items) 894 00:28:48,766 --> 00:28:50,000 I think I got- 895 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,833 - [Matt] Oh, the singer be careful 896 00:28:51,833 --> 00:28:53,366 with that one. - Got the singer, my friend. 897 00:28:53,366 --> 00:28:56,200 (boxes moving) 898 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,333 - [Matt] Here, bring this out right here. 899 00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:58,700 - [Avi] Look at that. - Nice. 900 00:28:58,700 --> 00:28:59,933 (boxes moving) 901 00:28:59,933 --> 00:29:01,666 - [Matt] Look at that. 902 00:29:01,666 --> 00:29:02,500 - [Avi] Ooh. 903 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:03,733 - [Matt] Beautiful. 904 00:29:03,733 --> 00:29:04,866 - [Avi] Ooh. 905 00:29:04,866 --> 00:29:06,133 - [Matt] So, normally you and I find 906 00:29:06,133 --> 00:29:09,066 those, they're actually attached to a big table. 907 00:29:09,066 --> 00:29:10,000 - [Avi] Yeah. 908 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,833 - [Matt] So, this was one 909 00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:13,366 of the first portable 910 00:29:13,366 --> 00:29:14,300 - [Avi] Man. 911 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:15,500 - [Matt] It's super cool. 912 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,500 - [Avi] I mean, that thing is heavy. 913 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:18,333 - [Matt] Very heavy. 914 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:19,600 (laughs) 915 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,066 - [Avi] So, to call that portable is interesting. 916 00:29:21,066 --> 00:29:23,600 - [Matt] But man, I cant think of my grandma hauling 917 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,266 this thing around, 918 00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:26,200 - [Avi] Me either. Hey, they did what they had to do. 919 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,433 You know. 920 00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:28,366 - [Matt] This is the first side hustle. 921 00:29:28,366 --> 00:29:29,300 - [Avi] The side hustle. Yeah. 922 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:30,800 - [Matt] This is the very first 923 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,366 side hustle. - The side hustle 924 00:29:32,366 --> 00:29:33,600 - And so you could make extra money. 925 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,600 You can make clothes for other people at home. 926 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,733 Cause this was affordable and portable. 927 00:29:37,733 --> 00:29:39,133 - [Avi] So who would this have belonged to? 928 00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:40,533 - [Matt] Knowing this model, 929 00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:42,900 it would have been 1910 or 1911. 930 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,800 Zebulon's great-grandmother. 931 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,866 - [Avi] So, this thing is a hundred years old. 932 00:29:46,866 --> 00:29:48,633 - [Matt] Oh, yeah. More than a hundred years old. 933 00:29:48,633 --> 00:29:49,766 (snarky laughter) 934 00:29:49,766 --> 00:29:50,766 - [Matt] It's pretty cool. 935 00:29:50,766 --> 00:29:51,900 - [Avi] It is. 936 00:29:55,566 --> 00:29:58,866 (acoustic guitar music) 937 00:30:08,933 --> 00:30:11,166 - [Matt] Hey Jamie, finding anything good? 938 00:30:11,166 --> 00:30:14,100 - [Jamie] Well, I found some more books 939 00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,233 which is not that surprising. 940 00:30:16,233 --> 00:30:17,666 Oh, wait a second. 941 00:30:17,666 --> 00:30:21,800 I think I might have something. Come here. 942 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,300 - [Matt] All right. 943 00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:26,300 - [Jamie] Check this out. It's her medical bag. 944 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:27,166 - [Matt] The bag. 945 00:30:27,166 --> 00:30:28,433 - [Jamie] Yeah. 946 00:30:28,433 --> 00:30:29,700 - [Matt] Here, let me hold it for you. 947 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,966 - [Jamie] Look at that. It's a beautiful bag. 948 00:30:31,966 --> 00:30:33,933 - [Matt] It looks very sixties, seventies to me. 949 00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:35,133 - [Jamie] Yeah. 950 00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:36,966 - [Pre-Recorded Jamie] To think of all 951 00:30:36,966 --> 00:30:38,733 of the stories of bringing life into the world 952 00:30:38,733 --> 00:30:40,800 that she got to witness with those tools 953 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,533 was just really, really cool. 954 00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:46,933 - [Matt] How many babies were brought into this world 955 00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:48,866 using these things. 956 00:30:48,866 --> 00:30:50,133 - [Jamie] I mean, the fact that they've held on 957 00:30:50,133 --> 00:30:51,366 to this bag for this many years must mean 958 00:30:51,366 --> 00:30:53,200 that it holds a lot of sentimental value. 959 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,933 - [Matt] No doubt. 960 00:30:54,933 --> 00:30:57,066 - [Jamie] This is awesome. 961 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:03,400 (jazz music) 962 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,766 - [Avi] You're Jewish, African-American in Boston. 963 00:31:10,766 --> 00:31:15,266 How did that impact influence you as you were growing up? 964 00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:17,966 - [Zebulon] My black family is from Boston. 965 00:31:17,966 --> 00:31:19,233 They're here in Boston. 966 00:31:19,233 --> 00:31:20,200 - [Avi] Mhm. 967 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,800 - [Zebulon] So, in that sense, 968 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,866 I just grew up identifying as black. 969 00:31:23,866 --> 00:31:25,066 - [Avi] Yeah. 970 00:31:25,066 --> 00:31:26,266 - [Zebulon] Some people may not have liked 971 00:31:26,266 --> 00:31:28,066 how I identified, you know, 972 00:31:28,066 --> 00:31:32,000 I had a lot of hurdles that I had to jump over, 973 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,966 you know. 974 00:31:32,966 --> 00:31:34,533 But most African-Americans do. 975 00:31:34,533 --> 00:31:36,033 - [Avi] Yeah. 976 00:31:36,033 --> 00:31:37,466 - [Pre-Recorded Avi]I could see in talking with him, 977 00:31:37,466 --> 00:31:40,466 some of the pain that might've been a part of that, 978 00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:45,000 but also just the great strength that it created in him, 979 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,633 to have to have that experience and live through it. 980 00:31:48,633 --> 00:31:50,033 - [Zebulon] I think it's no secret 981 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:52,966 that Boston has had struggle with issues of race. 982 00:31:52,966 --> 00:31:54,800 - [Avi] And I know you're a professor. 983 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,766 Africana studies. 984 00:31:56,766 --> 00:31:59,033 I was hoping you might be able to tell me, 985 00:31:59,033 --> 00:32:01,733 somewhere that I could go, you know, 986 00:32:01,733 --> 00:32:05,033 that I could really get a strong sense of, you know, 987 00:32:05,033 --> 00:32:08,200 where it all started for African-Americans in Boston and you 988 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,633 know how we got to this point. 989 00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:12,466 - [Zebulon] Yeah. Well, there's no better place 990 00:32:12,466 --> 00:32:14,166 than the African Meeting House. 991 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:15,900 So, the African meeting house is the oldest, 992 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:18,500 continuously freestanding church. 993 00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,466 Black church in America. 994 00:32:20,466 --> 00:32:22,200 In Boston, it was a place 995 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,866 where African Americans gathered 996 00:32:24,866 --> 00:32:26,400 to discuss 997 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,033 important issues and to make important decisions. 998 00:32:29,033 --> 00:32:30,333 - [Avi] So, not just spiritual 999 00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:31,833 - [Zebulon] Not just spiritual, that's right. 1000 00:32:31,833 --> 00:32:34,100 Groups who were mostly involved 1001 00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,000 in racial justice efforts, 1002 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,300 whether it was abolitionism or even schooling. 1003 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,233 - [Pre-Recorded Avi] Now, that I'm talking to Zebulon, 1004 00:32:42,233 --> 00:32:43,633 I'm on my way to the 1005 00:32:43,633 --> 00:32:45,866 Museum of African-American History in Boston. 1006 00:32:45,866 --> 00:32:48,266 - [Avi] So, the family we're working with, 1007 00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:51,500 the grandfather after returning from world war II, 1008 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:56,000 purchased a home in the Southeast section of Boston. 1009 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,433 In the 1950s. 1010 00:32:57,433 --> 00:32:59,933 And I'm just curious to hear from you, 1011 00:32:59,933 --> 00:33:03,333 what would that have been like as the first African-American 1012 00:33:03,333 --> 00:33:06,866 family to move into an all white community? 1013 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,033 - [Historian] Southie has been a, 1014 00:33:10,033 --> 00:33:14,000 an area of much contention that was highlighted in the 1970 1015 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,633 busing crisis for integration of schools and the fact that 1016 00:33:17,633 --> 00:33:21,466 there were no, at one time, no black policemen, 1017 00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:22,733 no black firemen. 1018 00:33:22,733 --> 00:33:26,466 It would be difficult to process being human, 1019 00:33:29,133 --> 00:33:31,433 being black and being there. 1020 00:33:33,033 --> 00:33:36,466 - [Avi] It's difficult to think about 1021 00:33:36,466 --> 00:33:39,500 this is where America started. 1022 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:43,633 Like, here we are at its humble beginnings, 1023 00:33:43,633 --> 00:33:45,300 The space of its humble beginnings. 1024 00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:48,566 And we're still challenged with so much. 1025 00:33:48,566 --> 00:33:50,433 - [Historian] So, Avi, 1026 00:33:50,433 --> 00:33:54,633 This is the sanctuary of the African Meeting House. 1027 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,566 - [Avi] Mmm. 1028 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,166 - [Historian] They built themselves a meeting house. 1029 00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:03,366 - [Avi] This is clearly to me, a space of spirituality. 1030 00:34:03,366 --> 00:34:04,866 - [Historian] Absolutely. 1031 00:34:04,866 --> 00:34:08,533 - [Avi] What other purposes would the meeting house have? 1032 00:34:08,533 --> 00:34:12,366 - [Historian] This housed the first African Baptist church. 1033 00:34:12,366 --> 00:34:13,500 So it was religious purposes. 1034 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,866 It also housed a school in the basement. 1035 00:34:15,866 --> 00:34:19,000 And the third reason was to be able to assembly, 1036 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,933 to meet their issues of the day and the commitment 1037 00:34:22,933 --> 00:34:25,100 to ending slavery in America. 1038 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:26,300 - [Avi] Mmm. 1039 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:27,633 - [Narrator] So, this building was built 1040 00:34:27,633 --> 00:34:28,933 as a gathering space. 1041 00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:29,866 - [Avi] Yes. 1042 00:34:29,866 --> 00:34:31,333 - [Historian] It was identified 1043 00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:33,833 as the African Meeting House. 1044 00:34:33,833 --> 00:34:35,333 - [Avi] So, what were some of the meetings 1045 00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:37,666 that would have taken place in this space? 1046 00:34:37,666 --> 00:34:40,866 - [Historian] When abolitionists meetings ended 1047 00:34:40,866 --> 00:34:44,466 in riot at Tremont Temple, or Nathaniel Hall, 1048 00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:46,433 they would run to the African Meeting House. 1049 00:34:46,433 --> 00:34:48,333 Frederick Douglas brings his meeting here 1050 00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:49,500 - [Avi] Mmm. 1051 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,600 - [Historian] And speaks from that podium. 1052 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,733 When that happens. 1053 00:34:52,733 --> 00:34:54,233 - [Pre-Recorded Avi] The story 1054 00:34:54,233 --> 00:34:57,933 that rang with me was a Frederick Douglas leaving 1055 00:34:59,233 --> 00:35:00,533 a talk 1056 00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:03,400 because the crowd didn't want to hear him talk. 1057 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,166 Coming to that meeting house and having the space and 1058 00:35:06,166 --> 00:35:10,200 freedom to stand there and say what needed to be said, 1059 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,100 you know, to speak his truth. 1060 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:16,566 If he could do it in such a challenging space in time, 1061 00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:19,166 then why can't I? 1062 00:35:20,333 --> 00:35:23,133 - [Avi] To think about the struggles, 1063 00:35:24,633 --> 00:35:29,233 the emotions attached to being enslaved and being separated. 1064 00:35:30,766 --> 00:35:34,666 And, it's just hard to imagine that experience 1065 00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:35,500 - [Historian] Yes. 1066 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,466 - [Avi] You know, I try, 1067 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,233 but I don't think I can even understand the gravity of that. 1068 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,666 - [Historian] Well, what this space allows us 1069 00:35:45,666 --> 00:35:48,700 to do is to have more grasp on the details. 1070 00:35:50,466 --> 00:35:51,933 - [Avi] Mhm. 1071 00:35:51,933 --> 00:35:53,300 - [Historian] We know that freedom wasn't free. 1072 00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,166 - [Avi] Right. 1073 00:35:55,166 --> 00:35:57,800 - [Pre-Recorded Avi] I personally had experienced 1074 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,433 a difficult childhood growing up because of 1075 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:05,300 racism 1076 00:36:09,766 --> 00:36:12,166 and being treated differently. 1077 00:36:12,166 --> 00:36:14,366 (deep intake of breath) 1078 00:36:14,366 --> 00:36:15,900 To know that I was standing in the building 1079 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,800 that was one of the first buildings erected for the purpose 1080 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,100 of educating black children. 1081 00:36:24,633 --> 00:36:27,866 I mean my feet on their feet, you know, 1082 00:36:27,866 --> 00:36:31,233 just having the opportunity to be where I am 1083 00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:33,966 to even share this story, freely. 1084 00:36:35,866 --> 00:36:37,833 It just, it rings heavy. 1085 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,600 (upbeat music) 1086 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,366 - [Matt] We've intentionally been very careful with Veronica 1087 00:36:51,366 --> 00:36:55,166 and we wanted her to wait and invite us up to speak. 1088 00:36:55,166 --> 00:36:56,966 And finally that has happened. 1089 00:36:56,966 --> 00:36:59,400 I'm really excited that I do sit down with Veronica 1090 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,966 and hear her story. 1091 00:37:00,966 --> 00:37:03,533 - [Matt] So, how long have you lived in this building? 1092 00:37:03,533 --> 00:37:05,500 - [Veronica] Since about 1985. 1093 00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,033 - [Matt] Okay. So, gosh. Just under 40 years. 1094 00:37:08,033 --> 00:37:09,233 - [Veronica] Yes. 1095 00:37:09,233 --> 00:37:11,400 - [Matt] It's a long time. You're being faced 1096 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,200 with the decision of what do I do next. 1097 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,366 Do I move? Do I stay? 1098 00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:16,600 - [Veronica] Exactly. 1099 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,833 - [Matt] If someone came to you and said, 1100 00:37:17,833 --> 00:37:19,733 oh, how's it going? What should I do? 1101 00:37:19,733 --> 00:37:20,666 What advice would you give? 1102 00:37:20,666 --> 00:37:21,700 - [Veronica] Oh. 1103 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:22,900 If you have family 1104 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,633 to really check in with them because they 1105 00:37:26,633 --> 00:37:30,566 can give you a lot of wisdom and grounding. 1106 00:37:30,566 --> 00:37:33,500 You know, especially a close family, 1107 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,000 such as we are. 1108 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,100 I feel, Zebulon's very, very concerned and interested. 1109 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,000 And so, you know, I'm looking to him also. 1110 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,666 I'm not doing all this by myself and that feels good. 1111 00:37:45,666 --> 00:37:46,900 - [Matt] Mhm. 1112 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,733 - [Veronica] You know, just to know 1113 00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:50,600 that I have that, you know, 1114 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,833 the love of my son, Jamie, as well. 1115 00:37:51,833 --> 00:37:54,466 Very supportive and just helping me move along. 1116 00:37:54,466 --> 00:37:58,366 I think the other thing is just to try to have faith. 1117 00:37:58,366 --> 00:38:02,466 That things are going to move ahead and work out. 1118 00:38:10,033 --> 00:38:12,266 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] We found the reel-to-reel player 1119 00:38:12,266 --> 00:38:13,800 in the closet on the first floor. 1120 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,500 It was buried under some boxes and behind some other things. 1121 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:18,666 - [Matt] This item more than 1122 00:38:18,666 --> 00:38:21,733 any other really speaks to Zebulon's dad. 1123 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,033 - [Jamie] I know, this is really important to Zebulon. 1124 00:38:25,033 --> 00:38:28,366 How common was it for a household to have one of these? 1125 00:38:28,366 --> 00:38:30,633 - [Matt] Yeah, not every house had one of these. 1126 00:38:30,633 --> 00:38:32,700 But if you were serious about music, 1127 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,000 like, almost audiophile level. 1128 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,933 - [Jamie] Yeah. 1129 00:38:35,933 --> 00:38:37,433 - [Matt] You probably had one. 1130 00:38:37,433 --> 00:38:40,100 The beauty of this system is you can actually record things 1131 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,600 on it yourself. 1132 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,233 - [Jamie] Ohh. Oh yeah. Here's the record button. 1133 00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:44,233 - [Matt] Yeah. 1134 00:38:44,233 --> 00:38:46,000 - [Jamie] It's like, if you want 1135 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,233 to record your own music 1136 00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:49,066 or, like even just talking into it. 1137 00:38:49,066 --> 00:38:50,533 - [Matt] Absolutely. 1138 00:38:50,533 --> 00:38:54,300 And hopefully these reels are somewhere in here because 1139 00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,733 we've got to try and find some. 1140 00:38:56,733 --> 00:38:59,066 - [Jamie] Yeah. This is a Legacy List item. 1141 00:38:59,066 --> 00:38:59,900 High five. 1142 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:00,800 (Hands slap) 1143 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,333 - [Matt] Whoo. 1144 00:39:02,333 --> 00:39:03,733 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] Finding the reel to reel was amazing, 1145 00:39:03,733 --> 00:39:05,200 but I wasn't going to be satisfied until I knew for sure 1146 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,833 that this thing worked. 1147 00:39:06,833 --> 00:39:09,133 (old-timey music) 1148 00:39:09,133 --> 00:39:11,033 - [Narrator] The reel-to-reel tape player, 1149 00:39:11,033 --> 00:39:13,433 a sophisticated recording device that is yet another 1150 00:39:13,433 --> 00:39:17,633 evolutionary step in the history of recorded sound. 1151 00:39:19,033 --> 00:39:21,266 That history involves someone who is 1152 00:39:21,266 --> 00:39:23,400 ironically partially deaf. 1153 00:39:24,833 --> 00:39:27,666 In 1877, Thomas Edison makes a lot of noise 1154 00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:29,666 when he invents the phonograph. 1155 00:39:29,666 --> 00:39:32,700 The strange looking device uses tinfoil wrapped around a 1156 00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,633 cylinder to capture sound. 1157 00:39:35,633 --> 00:39:37,300 The first recorded music, 1158 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,866 Yankee Doodle Dandy, played on the coronet. 1159 00:39:42,066 --> 00:39:43,833 Edison loves his invention so much, 1160 00:39:43,833 --> 00:39:48,166 he embeds miniature phonographs in talking dolls. 1161 00:39:48,166 --> 00:39:52,266 Unsurprisingly, the creepy nursery rhyme shrieking toys 1162 00:39:52,266 --> 00:39:57,200 are a commercial flop. (trombone sound) 1163 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,100 As the 20th century dawns, 1164 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,400 the gramophone hits the market and flat disks are 1165 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,266 all the rage. 1166 00:40:04,266 --> 00:40:07,766 After world war II, an American major brings reel-to-reel 1167 00:40:07,766 --> 00:40:10,300 technology back home from Germany. 1168 00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:13,933 He sets up a demo for studio executives and shocks them 1169 00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:18,366 by toggling between a live jazz group and a recording. 1170 00:40:19,866 --> 00:40:23,033 Is it live, he asks? They are stumped. 1171 00:40:23,033 --> 00:40:25,866 None other than White Christmas crooner, 1172 00:40:25,866 --> 00:40:29,966 Bing Crosby hears about it and invests in the company. 1173 00:40:29,966 --> 00:40:34,900 He becomes the first performer to prerecord a radio show. 1174 00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:37,133 Bulky reel-to-reel players 1175 00:40:37,133 --> 00:40:37,966 are popular (jazz music) 1176 00:40:37,966 --> 00:40:39,533 until the early 1960s. 1177 00:40:39,533 --> 00:40:40,766 (whir of cassette tape) 1178 00:40:40,766 --> 00:40:42,866 When the cassette tape is introduced. 1179 00:40:42,866 --> 00:40:44,233 Compact discs 1180 00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:45,833 follow along in the eighties, (break dance music) 1181 00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:48,433 followed by digital downloads. 1182 00:40:48,433 --> 00:40:52,033 Today, streaming services contain nearly everything recorded 1183 00:40:52,033 --> 00:40:54,566 that matters to anyone. 1184 00:40:54,566 --> 00:40:57,733 Music, audio books, podcasts, and more. 1185 00:40:57,733 --> 00:41:00,166 Recorded audio has come a long way 1186 00:41:00,166 --> 00:41:02,566 in the last hundred and 50 years. 1187 00:41:02,566 --> 00:41:06,033 And the future is sure to hold even more technological 1188 00:41:06,033 --> 00:41:07,666 breakthroughs. 1189 00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,133 Sounds good to me. 1190 00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:14,633 (upbeat acoustic music) 1191 00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:19,100 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] It was really important to Zebulon 1192 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:23,366 that we kept as many things out of the landfill as possible, 1193 00:41:23,366 --> 00:41:26,966 but then, also donated as much as possible. 1194 00:41:26,966 --> 00:41:29,333 They weren't really interested so much in selling. 1195 00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:32,766 But as long as the items were getting another life 1196 00:41:32,766 --> 00:41:35,333 with somebody else that made them happy. 1197 00:41:35,333 --> 00:41:37,833 My team and I cleaned out the first floor. 1198 00:41:37,833 --> 00:41:39,300 We cleaned out the basement. 1199 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:42,900 The only area we couldn't start in was the third floor. 1200 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,433 And that's where Zebulon's mom was living. 1201 00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:47,300 She just wasn't ready. 1202 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:49,633 It was clear, Zebulon was carrying a lot of weight 1203 00:41:49,633 --> 00:41:50,900 on his shoulders. 1204 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:54,666 But hopefully our work, helped lighten the load. 1205 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,433 (upbeat music) 1206 00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:05,866 - [Matt] You will see a lot of empty space. 1207 00:42:05,866 --> 00:42:09,433 - [Zebulon] Oh wow. Oh man, this looks great. 1208 00:42:09,433 --> 00:42:10,766 - [Matt] We did a lot of work. 1209 00:42:10,766 --> 00:42:12,666 We got all the clutter cleared out. 1210 00:42:12,666 --> 00:42:15,733 We donated a ton of books and cleared out the closet 1211 00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:16,933 over there. 1212 00:42:16,933 --> 00:42:17,933 We cleared out the space in the basement. 1213 00:42:17,933 --> 00:42:19,166 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1214 00:42:19,166 --> 00:42:20,133 - [Matt] So, you're not ready to move. 1215 00:42:20,133 --> 00:42:21,666 (laughter) 1216 00:42:21,666 --> 00:42:23,200 - [Matt] We didn't really address your mom's level, 1217 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,733 but we have gotten some of the extra space down here. 1218 00:42:25,733 --> 00:42:28,500 - [Zebulon] I tell you, it's ,it's cathartic. 1219 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,466 That's the word I'm gonna use. 1220 00:42:29,466 --> 00:42:31,666 It's, it just feels open. 1221 00:42:31,666 --> 00:42:34,600 And I'm feeling like, less and less of that weight on me. 1222 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,833 The pressure. 1223 00:42:35,833 --> 00:42:37,466 - [Matt] That is the goal we wanted. 1224 00:42:37,466 --> 00:42:39,400 - [Zebulon] I'm seeing the progress and that makes me happy. 1225 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,533 - [Matt] We're not solving the whole problem, 1226 00:42:41,533 --> 00:42:43,733 but we are helping you get started. 1227 00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:44,866 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1228 00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:47,533 - [Matt] The physical part was easy. 1229 00:42:47,533 --> 00:42:50,300 The mental part is the challenging part. 1230 00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:51,133 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1231 00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:51,966 - [Matt] All right. So. 1232 00:42:51,966 --> 00:42:53,233 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1233 00:42:53,233 --> 00:42:54,300 - [Matt] I think we should go sit down, 1234 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:55,766 go through your Legacy List. 1235 00:42:55,766 --> 00:42:57,500 I think it'll all come together when we're done. 1236 00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:58,500 - [Zebulon] That sounds good. 1237 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,200 - [Matt] All right. Let's do it. 1238 00:43:03,233 --> 00:43:05,600 (peppy acoustic guitar music) 1239 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,533 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] This has been 1240 00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:08,533 an emotional week for all of us. 1241 00:43:08,533 --> 00:43:11,033 And I'm really excited to sit down with Zebulon and show 1242 00:43:11,033 --> 00:43:12,433 him everything that we found. 1243 00:43:12,433 --> 00:43:14,033 - [Mike] What's been the hardest thing 1244 00:43:14,033 --> 00:43:15,833 in this whole process? 1245 00:43:15,833 --> 00:43:18,333 - [Zebulon] Probably, I'd say if I'm being honest. Yeah. 1246 00:43:18,333 --> 00:43:20,766 A little bit of indecision, you know, 1247 00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:23,200 trying to get everybody on the same page. 1248 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,900 I'm realizing that these things take time to plan 1249 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:30,700 and you have to have a plan. 1250 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:32,166 This helps a lot. 1251 00:43:32,166 --> 00:43:36,233 Just having less stuff helps us to execute our plan. 1252 00:43:36,233 --> 00:43:37,266 - [Matt] And I'm not even going 1253 00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,500 to ask you where mom's going yet, 1254 00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:39,366 because I want to get through this stuff. 1255 00:43:39,366 --> 00:43:40,233 But I will tell you- 1256 00:43:40,233 --> 00:43:41,066 - [Zebulon] Thank you 1257 00:43:41,066 --> 00:43:42,566 (laughter) 1258 00:43:42,566 --> 00:43:43,233 - [Matt] Because I know you guys haven't decided yet. 1259 00:43:43,233 --> 00:43:44,166 - [Zebulon] Yeah 1260 00:43:44,166 --> 00:43:45,366 - [Matt] And I think we're, 1261 00:43:45,366 --> 00:43:46,166 I hope this process has helped you guys get 1262 00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:47,100 closer to that decision. 1263 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:48,600 - [Zebulon] I hope so too, 1264 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,566 because it's all about a good place for her to be. 1265 00:43:51,566 --> 00:43:53,100 - [Matt] All right. Let's get into this stuff. 1266 00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:56,466 We've got, we got a few items we found on your Legacy List. 1267 00:43:56,466 --> 00:43:57,333 All right. 1268 00:43:57,333 --> 00:43:59,566 (items shuffling) 1269 00:43:59,566 --> 00:44:04,266 Ironically, the first item is a portable sewing machine. 1270 00:44:06,366 --> 00:44:07,200 It's pretty heavy though. 1271 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,433 - [Zebulon] Yes! 1272 00:44:08,433 --> 00:44:10,033 - [Matt] It doesn't really feel portable. 1273 00:44:10,033 --> 00:44:13,133 - [Zebulon] Oh, man. I knew I had seen this before. 1274 00:44:13,133 --> 00:44:14,066 - [Matt] All right. 1275 00:44:14,066 --> 00:44:16,666 This is a very famous model. 1276 00:44:16,666 --> 00:44:17,900 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1277 00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:19,366 - [Matt] So knowing the dates on this, 1278 00:44:19,366 --> 00:44:23,500 it makes me thinks that it is your great-grandmother Amy 1279 00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:24,433 Sinclair's. 1280 00:44:24,433 --> 00:44:25,733 - [Zebulon] Oh man. I bet it is. 1281 00:44:25,733 --> 00:44:29,166 It just looks cool. It looks historic. 1282 00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,166 And obviously it goes way back. 1283 00:44:31,166 --> 00:44:35,366 - [Matt] Everyone in your family worked really hard. 1284 00:44:35,366 --> 00:44:37,800 - [Zebulon] And she was West Indian, from Jamaica. 1285 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,700 She worked extremely hard to come to America and be here. 1286 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,433 Yeah. 1287 00:44:44,433 --> 00:44:45,233 - [Matt] We are who we are because we watch 1288 00:44:45,233 --> 00:44:45,900 our ancestors do it. 1289 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:47,133 - [Zebulon] Mhm. 1290 00:44:47,133 --> 00:44:49,400 - [Matt] And I'm lucky enough to see this, 1291 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,533 that it trickles down generationally. 1292 00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:53,033 - [Zebulon] Amazing. 1293 00:44:53,033 --> 00:44:54,533 - [Matt] And it starts in little things like this. 1294 00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:58,433 - [Zebulon] Ah, I feel.. I'm very touched to see this. 1295 00:45:03,766 --> 00:45:05,400 - [Matt] All right 1296 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,333 - [Zebulon] Whoa 1297 00:45:06,333 --> 00:45:08,500 - [Matt] The next item we found. 1298 00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:09,766 - [Zebulon] You found it. 1299 00:45:09,766 --> 00:45:11,600 - [Matt] Well, you asked me to find, you asked me 1300 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,333 to find the counting machine. 1301 00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:15,366 This is not a counting machine. 1302 00:45:15,366 --> 00:45:18,066 It's actually a check printing machine or they call it, 1303 00:45:18,066 --> 00:45:19,333 a check writing machine. 1304 00:45:19,333 --> 00:45:20,166 - [Zebulon] Whoa. 1305 00:45:20,166 --> 00:45:21,433 - [Matt] And- 1306 00:45:21,433 --> 00:45:22,666 - [Zebulon] PayMaster. 1307 00:45:22,666 --> 00:45:24,466 - [Matt] Yeah. So, this is a big deal because 1308 00:45:24,466 --> 00:45:26,100 this is how people got paid. 1309 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:27,366 - [Zebulon] The boss. 1310 00:45:27,366 --> 00:45:29,833 - [Matt] This was your grandfathers. 1311 00:45:29,833 --> 00:45:31,100 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1312 00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:32,033 - [Matt] On your mom or your dad's side? 1313 00:45:32,033 --> 00:45:32,966 - [Zebulon] My mom's side. 1314 00:45:32,966 --> 00:45:33,766 - [Matt] Your mom's side. 1315 00:45:33,766 --> 00:45:35,033 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1316 00:45:35,033 --> 00:45:36,566 - [Matt] So let's paint the picture. 1317 00:45:36,566 --> 00:45:37,800 Let's put a date behind that and let's remind each other 1318 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,200 who, you know, this was in what, the fifties? 1319 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,166 - [Zebulon] He was a landlord and a property owner. 1320 00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:42,666 We went through that. 1321 00:45:42,666 --> 00:45:44,966 And I know that he worked for the Jordan Marsh Company. 1322 00:45:44,966 --> 00:45:46,466 - [Matt] Yeah. 1323 00:45:46,466 --> 00:45:47,800 - [Zebulon] And that's a big thing around these parts. 1324 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,733 - [Matt] So, he was an internal auditor. 1325 00:45:49,733 --> 00:45:51,200 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1326 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,666 - [Matt] So, he did payroll. 1327 00:45:53,666 --> 00:45:54,500 - [Zebulon] Wow! 1328 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:55,700 (laughter) 1329 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:57,800 - [Matt] You got to think about a black man 1330 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,300 running payroll right after the war 1331 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:03,100 and a property owner. 1332 00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,266 And what we learned on our trip around town, 1333 00:46:06,266 --> 00:46:08,500 he was the property owner in a part of town 1334 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:11,600 that he probably wasn't as appreciated. 1335 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,733 And it was probably really hard to get that property. 1336 00:46:12,733 --> 00:46:15,200 - [Zebulon] Yeah. Yeah. 1337 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,300 - [Matt] This is, this is a big deal. 1338 00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:21,800 Then you put race and dates behind it and then it becomes 1339 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,700 impressive. 1340 00:46:24,133 --> 00:46:27,266 - [Zebulon] And pull this thing. He was printing checks. 1341 00:46:27,266 --> 00:46:28,200 That's amazing. 1342 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,466 - [Matt] I mean, and by the way, 1343 00:46:29,466 --> 00:46:31,466 all of this was after he served in the war. 1344 00:46:31,466 --> 00:46:32,966 - [Zebulon] Yeah, exactly. 1345 00:46:32,966 --> 00:46:34,400 - [Matt] We're not even talking about his service. 1346 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,333 - [Zebulon] He, right! He had stories a plenty. 1347 00:46:37,333 --> 00:46:38,800 You know, he saw the world, 1348 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,700 he knew about the world and that's really what he taught us. 1349 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,566 About money, how the world works, good and bad 1350 00:46:47,566 --> 00:46:49,900 and that it can be a tough place. 1351 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:52,533 And to really, you know, know your stuff. 1352 00:46:52,533 --> 00:46:54,766 - [Matt] I see a lot of heirlooms, man. 1353 00:46:54,766 --> 00:46:56,600 And this is a cool one. 1354 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,633 And without the story, this is a green piece of metal. 1355 00:47:02,833 --> 00:47:04,500 This is something you pass down to your kids. 1356 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:05,600 - [Zebulon] I will Matt. That is- 1357 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,800 - [Matt] This is super cool. 1358 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,400 - [Zebulon] That is cool. Dollars and cents. 1359 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,100 (melodic piano) 1360 00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:14,966 - [Matt] Let's go on to the next one. 1361 00:47:14,966 --> 00:47:16,200 All right. 1362 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,633 The next item you asked us to find is 1363 00:47:17,633 --> 00:47:19,733 your mom's medical bag. 1364 00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:21,500 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1365 00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,000 - [Matt] It was not difficult 1366 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,866 to find but it's a pretty big deal. 1367 00:47:27,433 --> 00:47:29,633 Oh, you help babies being born. 1368 00:47:29,633 --> 00:47:30,466 You know, like, 1369 00:47:30,466 --> 00:47:31,666 (laughter) 1370 00:47:31,666 --> 00:47:33,133 I mean, it's crazy the things she's done. 1371 00:47:33,133 --> 00:47:34,700 We found some great things about your mom, here. 1372 00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:37,033 This is the favorite thing I've found in this house. 1373 00:47:37,033 --> 00:47:38,566 It's a note from you. 1374 00:47:38,566 --> 00:47:40,766 - [Zebulon] To my mom- 1375 00:47:40,766 --> 00:47:41,733 - [Matt] I'm going to let you read it. 1376 00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:42,633 (chuckles) 1377 00:47:42,633 --> 00:47:43,600 It's from 1982. 1378 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,533 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1379 00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:46,433 Dear mommy, 1380 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,133 I need you and I love you. 1381 00:47:51,266 --> 00:47:54,033 I'm sorry we fight all the time, 1382 00:47:54,033 --> 00:47:55,833 (laughter, throat clearing) 1383 00:47:55,833 --> 00:47:59,366 but I don't know a way to fix that. 1384 00:47:59,366 --> 00:48:00,833 Are going to send, 1385 00:48:00,833 --> 00:48:03,233 are you going to send me to boarding school? 1386 00:48:03,233 --> 00:48:05,366 (guffaws) 1387 00:48:05,366 --> 00:48:06,566 I remember this 1388 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,533 You know, I don't remember this note, 1389 00:48:10,533 --> 00:48:12,500 but I remember this boarding school thing, 1390 00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:14,266 but let me finish. 1391 00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,000 I hope not. 1392 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,366 I hope we can be friends again. 1393 00:48:18,366 --> 00:48:22,233 Love, Zeb. (chuckles) The heart. 1394 00:48:22,233 --> 00:48:23,700 Wow. 1395 00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:27,600 - [Matt] When you downsize, some of the best stuff to find. 1396 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,600 It's just a note. 1397 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,133 - [Zebulon] I know. 1398 00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:34,933 - Pre-Recorded Matt] It's easy 1399 00:48:34,933 --> 00:48:36,133 for me to help people find physical items. 1400 00:48:36,133 --> 00:48:37,366 But when they find out more about 1401 00:48:37,366 --> 00:48:39,500 who they are and their own history, 1402 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:43,633 that's really an awesome thing to see and to feel. 1403 00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:49,200 And it was even more special to do it with my friend. 1404 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,433 - [Matt] Your mom had also asked me 1405 00:48:50,433 --> 00:48:53,333 to find some things on the genealogy side. 1406 00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:56,266 We were able to get your family back, pretty quickly 1407 00:48:56,266 --> 00:48:57,733 tied back 1408 00:48:57,733 --> 00:49:00,266 to a community called Warrenton, North Carolina, 1409 00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:02,266 a thriving community. 1410 00:49:02,266 --> 00:49:06,900 Your great, great, great grandfather, Haywood Arrington. 1411 00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:10,700 - [Zebulon] I have heard that name. 1412 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:12,800 - [Matt] Okay. This right 1413 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,766 here is basically what you would equivalate 1414 00:49:16,766 --> 00:49:18,866 to a marriage certificate. 1415 00:49:18,866 --> 00:49:22,800 It isn't a marriage, but it's more of a license. 1416 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,166 And the date on this is 1866. 1417 00:49:27,266 --> 00:49:28,766 - [Zebulon] Oh, wow. 1418 00:49:28,766 --> 00:49:33,033 - [Matt] So, it says they've been together since 1852. 1419 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,033 And as we know, the civil war ended in 1865. 1420 00:49:38,033 --> 00:49:40,733 So, this was the first time they were allowed to recognize 1421 00:49:40,733 --> 00:49:42,066 their marriage. 1422 00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:43,266 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1423 00:49:43,266 --> 00:49:46,233 - [Matt] Your great, great, great grandfather 1424 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:47,733 and grandmother. 1425 00:49:47,733 --> 00:49:50,933 This proves that they were together while enslaved. 1426 00:49:50,933 --> 00:49:52,600 And then as soon as they became free, 1427 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,833 they were able to get their marriage certificate. 1428 00:49:54,833 --> 00:49:57,033 - [Zebulon] Yeah, it says, residents of said county 1429 00:49:57,033 --> 00:49:59,833 lately slaves but now emancipated. 1430 00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:06,066 Wow. This is real history that speaks to the black family. 1431 00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:10,466 It's so much to take in. 1432 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,700 (sniff) 1433 00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:15,733 Slavery, what our ancestors went through 1434 00:50:15,733 --> 00:50:20,366 and still yet, despite all that, they survived 1435 00:50:20,366 --> 00:50:22,566 and even sometimes thrived. 1436 00:50:24,766 --> 00:50:29,566 I'm proud to descend from such people and to know, 1437 00:50:29,566 --> 00:50:32,433 to know my enslaved ancestors. 1438 00:50:32,433 --> 00:50:34,366 You've given me a huge thing. 1439 00:50:34,366 --> 00:50:36,433 This is really powerful gift. 1440 00:50:36,433 --> 00:50:38,000 (sniffs) 1441 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,533 And my mom will appreciate it, too. 1442 00:50:39,533 --> 00:50:40,766 (laughter) - [Matt] I can't wait 1443 00:50:40,766 --> 00:50:43,200 for you to show that to your mom. 1444 00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:47,733 All right. 1445 00:50:47,733 --> 00:50:48,533 Thank you. 1446 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:51,666 - [Zebulon] Wow. No way. 1447 00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,533 - [Matt] This is one of our Producers. Thank you. 1448 00:50:55,533 --> 00:50:57,933 Let me plug this in. 1449 00:50:57,933 --> 00:50:59,366 You know what this is? 1450 00:50:59,366 --> 00:51:00,666 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1451 00:51:00,666 --> 00:51:01,966 - [Matt] This is your dad's reel-to-reel. 1452 00:51:01,966 --> 00:51:03,066 (laughter) 1453 00:51:03,066 --> 00:51:04,533 - Obviously. 1454 00:51:04,533 --> 00:51:07,633 - [Zebulon] Oh man, I have not seen this in a long time. 1455 00:51:07,633 --> 00:51:09,133 - [Matt] Tell me about it. What do you remember about it? 1456 00:51:09,133 --> 00:51:10,333 - [Zebulon] Man, it looks smaller. 1457 00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:11,800 I remember this thing being so big. 1458 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,700 (laughter) 1459 00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:13,966 - [Matt] Yeah? 1460 00:51:13,966 --> 00:51:15,433 - [Zebulon] It brings back a lot of things. 1461 00:51:15,433 --> 00:51:17,733 Looping the tape, watching how it had to be done 1462 00:51:17,733 --> 00:51:19,800 and splicing tapes and... 1463 00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:22,233 I just always, I don't know. 1464 00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:24,266 I could never get this out of my mind this, 1465 00:51:24,266 --> 00:51:28,266 the way the tapes looked even. It was just so cool. 1466 00:51:28,266 --> 00:51:29,666 There's no way this works. 1467 00:51:29,666 --> 00:51:31,000 - [Matt] Let's see if it works. 1468 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,166 (mechanical click) 1469 00:51:32,166 --> 00:51:34,166 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1470 00:51:34,166 --> 00:51:38,866 - [Audio Recording Child] Hi. This is Zebby speaking and- 1471 00:51:40,066 --> 00:51:41,266 - [Zebulon] Oh.. (laughter) 1472 00:51:41,266 --> 00:51:42,100 No way! - I want to tell you 1473 00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,066 a few things 1474 00:51:45,166 --> 00:51:49,633 - [Audio Recording Child] How you doing, dad? 1475 00:51:49,633 --> 00:51:51,166 [Audio Recording Adult] I'm fine. 1476 00:51:51,166 --> 00:51:53,100 - [Zebulon] Oh, my God. 1477 00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:54,633 - [Audio Recording Child] No, (giggles) 1478 00:51:54,633 --> 00:51:56,400 - [Audio Recording Adult] It's January, 1979. 1479 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,700 - [Zebulon] Wow. 1480 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,433 - [Audio Recording Adult] In Jamaica Plain, Massachusets. 1481 00:52:02,433 --> 00:52:03,733 - [Audio Recording Child] Hi, I'm Zeb. 1482 00:52:03,733 --> 00:52:04,966 - {Audio Recording Adult] Hi, I'm Dad. 1483 00:52:04,966 --> 00:52:07,433 - [Audio Recording Adult 2] Hello. 1484 00:52:07,433 --> 00:52:09,833 - [Audio Recording Child] This is mommy. 1485 00:52:09,833 --> 00:52:11,366 - [Zebulon] Oh, wow. (laughing) 1486 00:52:11,366 --> 00:52:16,333 (indistinct chatter) (mechanical click) 1487 00:52:17,533 --> 00:52:18,500 - [Matt] How you feeling? 1488 00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:20,800 - [Zebulon] I can't, I am... 1489 00:52:21,733 --> 00:52:23,900 I thought, I'm speechless. 1490 00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:25,500 - [Matt] Yeah. 1491 00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:26,466 - [Zebulon] You know, I remembered us doing special stuff 1492 00:52:26,466 --> 00:52:28,533 with this and maybe 1493 00:52:28,533 --> 00:52:31,066 that was why I could never forget about it. 1494 00:52:31,066 --> 00:52:32,966 That, you made my dream come true. 1495 00:52:32,966 --> 00:52:34,333 That was my, I would, 1496 00:52:34,333 --> 00:52:36,766 that was my hope, is to find something from, 1497 00:52:36,766 --> 00:52:38,700 from all of us back then. 1498 00:52:39,966 --> 00:52:41,300 I'm blown away. 1499 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,433 I am blown away. I can't believe that. 1500 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,933 And you've really given me, given us a gift. 1501 00:52:50,933 --> 00:52:52,166 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] So many of us want 1502 00:52:52,166 --> 00:52:54,866 to just go back once, for like one minute 1503 00:52:54,866 --> 00:52:56,666 and he got to do that. 1504 00:52:58,733 --> 00:53:02,000 I know I would want to hear my dad's voice again. 1505 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,933 And for him to do that, that's really amazing. 1506 00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:08,366 - [Matt] You said the first day we got here, 1507 00:53:08,366 --> 00:53:10,700 you said you had gotten really stuck. 1508 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:13,266 I know it's a complicated next few months. 1509 00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:14,533 - [Zebulon] Yeah. 1510 00:53:14,533 --> 00:53:16,400 - [Matt] But y'all are going to be all right. 1511 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,900 - [Zebulon] I certainly hope so. 1512 00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:21,400 You know, and I feel better, a lot better about it. 1513 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,500 Thanks to you, your help. 1514 00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:24,733 - [Pre-Recorded Matt] Selling this house 1515 00:53:24,733 --> 00:53:26,733 right now will allow Veronica to have a 1516 00:53:26,733 --> 00:53:30,166 much happier life for the next 20 years. 1517 00:53:30,166 --> 00:53:32,666 And that was a good move for this family. 1518 00:53:32,666 --> 00:53:34,900 They did it at the right time because they had 1519 00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:37,566 those difficult conversations now. 1520 00:53:37,566 --> 00:53:41,900 - [Matt] I want to hear that same conversation with you, 1521 00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:43,866 your wife and your kids. 1522 00:53:45,033 --> 00:53:46,833 - [Zebulon] We'll do it. 1523 00:53:46,833 --> 00:53:48,733 (laughter) You got it. 1524 00:53:48,733 --> 00:53:53,700 (voice fades) (crescendoing music) 1525 00:53:58,233 --> 00:53:59,166 - [Announcer] Funding for "Legacy List" 1526 00:53:59,166 --> 00:54:01,566 is provided by Bekins Van Lines. 1527 00:54:01,566 --> 00:54:04,300 At Bekins, our goal is to provide a smooth 1528 00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:06,600 and simple moving experience no matter 1529 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,433 the size or distance of your move. 1530 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,400 Bekins is ready to help you get there. 1531 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,400 You can find us at bekins.com. 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