(bright upbeat music)

 

- [Narrator] Coming up

on "Legacy List"

 

with Matt Paxton.

Matt is in Boston to

 

help an old friend,

clear out his family's home

 

(indistinct talking)

before putting it up for sale.

- [Matt] I can hear it in

 

your voice, like, oh, yeah,

we have to sell the house,

like we don't wanna do that.

 

(man chuckles)

- [Narrator] Things

 

get emotional,

as they go through

 

40 years of memories.

- [Matt] Look at

 

that. Yep! Whoo!

- [Narrator] And,

 

find one item that

brings the past to life.

- [Audio Recording

 

Child] Hi, I'm Zeb.

- [Audio Recording

 

Adult] Hi, I'm Dad.

- [Zebulon] (chuckles) Oh, wow.

[Audio Recording

 

Child] (giggles)

- [Matt] I'm Matt Paxton.

 

(upbeat music)

- [Matt] Let's do it, man.

My team of specialists,

 

Jamie, Mike, and Avi

Help me, help people downsize

their homes and settle estates.

As the largest population

 

of baby boomers

in American history

 

transition towards retirement,

they and their families

 

face the overwhelming task

of emptying their homes to move.

We help them sift through

 

a lifetime of possessions-

- [Pre-Recorded Avi] Bingo!

- [Matt] heirlooms

 

and collectibles.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

We have literally

found a piece of history

 

- Here it is (laughter)

- [Matt] to help them find

 

the missing family treasures

that mean the most to them.

- [Pre-Recorded woman]

 

Oh, my goodness!

- [Matt] Jackie Robinson

- [Matt] And along the way,

they'll discover that the most

 

important museum in the world

may be in their

 

family's basement.

- [Pre-Recorded Women] Aw. Oh.

- [Pre-Recorded Zebulon]

 

I've never seen that.

That is cool looking.

- [Matt] From attics to sellers,

closets to cupboards,

we uncover the memories

 

they want to preserve.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

This is living history.

This is what we're

 

here to find. Let's go!

- [Matt] and discover

 

the compelling, personal,

and often historical stories,

spanning generations that

 

are their family's legacy.

 

- [Narrator] Funding for

 

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And by the Ruth Camp

 

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(upbeat music)

 

- [Matt] Today, we're right

outside of Boston,

 

(highway noise)

visiting an old buddy

 

of mine. Zebulon.

He has a very challenging

 

downsizing situation.

His mom has lived in

 

this triple decker house

for over 40 years.

Now, it's time to move out

 

and they need our help.

- [Pre-Recorded

 

Matt] Zebulon and I

have known each

 

other for a couple of

years, both professionally

 

and as friends.

And he works for ASALH,

which is a group that

 

really focuses on preserving

African-American history.

(strumming folk music)

- [Matt] Zebulon!

 

- Hey, Matt!

- [Matt] How are You

 

Man? Good to see you.

- [Zebulon] Good to see you.

- [Matt] Very good to see you.

- [Zebulon] Thanks for coming.

- [Matt] This is awesome,

 

the neighborhoods incredible.

- [Zebulon] Yeah. Yeah.

Come on in.

- [Matt] Look at

 

this old thing, man.

- [Zebulon] Yeah,

 

This has kind of

always been fascinating.

 

(street car braking)

- [Matt] I love it. It's

 

like an old intercom system

for three different

 

apartments or, what was it?

- [Zebulon] Some people call

 

it triple decker and yeah,

you'd be able to call up to

 

each one and I think they'd be

able to call down.

- [Matt] All right.

Well, let's check the

 

rest of the house out

and see what we've got to do.

- [Zebulon] All

 

right. Come on in.

(energetic folk guitar music)

 

- [Matt] All right.

Now here's the stuff

 

I'm usually called for.

- [Zebulon] Yeah. This

is the stuff

 

- The mess

- [Zebulon] I was

 

going to show you

But yeah

 

- Okay

- [Matt] So what am I looking

 

at? Where is this all from?

- [Zebulon] Well, you know,

some of this stuff

 

is from, you know,

when my dad passed.

- [Matt] Okay.

Lot of music, I

 

see. A lot of music

- [Zebulon] Yeah

- [Matt] and a lot of books.

- [Zebulon] There it is.

My dad loved music and

 

my mom loved books.

- [Matt] Okay. There you go.

 

(laugher)

Pretty simple. Tell me how

 

long ago did your dad pass?

- [Zebulon] He passed

 

in March of 2019.

- [Matt] Okay. So that's

 

not that long ago.

Really.

- [Matt] Yeah. No, not really.

- [Matt] Okay. And your mom's

 

situation, where is she?

- [Zebulon] My mom,

 

it's been hard for her.

You know, it's been

 

really, they were very,

very close and I always knew

 

that whichever one may pass

 

before the other,

 

that it'd be hard

for the surviving person.

And that has been the case.

- [Matt] Okay.

When an adult child has to take

over the management

 

of mom and the house,

you actually don't

 

get time to grieve.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] And you live

 

in another city, right?

- [Zebulon] Yeah, in New York.

- [Matt] So you're in New York.

So, you're going to

 

come back and forth.

So, you've got travel,

you've got the stress of

 

managing your regular life.

And then you got to deal with

 

this whole life up here too.

And you miss your dad and

 

you're worried about your mom.

- [Zebulon] Now,

 

you just described

my whole life right now

 

- Yeah, dude, so

That's exactly where

 

I am. (laughter)

- [Matt] Okay. All right.

With all the people I help,

it's usually the

 

oldest adult child

that takes care of mom

and Zebulon is in

 

that situation.

 

Right. So, what's the

 

overall goal here?

Is the house for sale?

Is someone moving?

What are we gonna be doing?

- [Zebulon] Yeah, we're

 

selling the house.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] Using some

 

of the funds and things

to help my mom move on

 

- Okay

to the next point.

- [Matt] Common

 

theme in downsizing.

The house is the asset

that will fund the

 

caregiving for mom.

- [Zebulon] That is the hope.

That is what we're hoping for.

- [Matt] Man, I can hear

 

it in your voice, like.

Oh, yeah, we have to sell the

 

house. Like, we don't want

to do that.

 

(chuckling)

- [Zebulon] That's the problem.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] It's been so long.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] That my

 

mom's been living here.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] And for all of us.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] Even

 

me, I grew up here.

- [Matt] This is a story

 

that we hear a lot.

The family has saved for

 

years to have a home for mom.

But, now for mom to

 

have a better place

to live, as she ages,

they're going to have

 

to sell this home.

And both Zebulon's mom and

 

his little brother are going

to have to find

 

new places to live.

- [Zebulon] I never knew when

 

this time would be coming,

but I knew it was coming

- [Matt] Yeah

- [Zebulon] One day.

And it seems like this is it.

- [Matt] And here

 

we are. It's now.

- [Zebulon] It feels that way.

(acoustic music)

- [Matt] What was it like

 

growing up in this house?

Like, how many families? There

 

was three different families?

- [Zebulon] Yeah. There was

 

three different families.

Us being one of them.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] We were. Yeah.

And then, you know,

 

family down here,

the family upstairs.

You know, we were renting here

along with the

 

other two families.

One of whom was the owner.

And eventually my parents

 

bought them, bought the place.

- [Matt] So your

 

brother's above us.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] And then your

 

mom's on the third floor.

- [Zebulon] Exactly.

- [Matt] This floor is

 

not so bad, obviously.

I'm assuming there's more

 

clutter somewhere else.

What else do I need to look at?

- [Zebulon] Well,

 

obviously I have

to show you the third floor.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] My mom lives.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] And there's

 

some closets and things.

- [Matt] Mhmm.

- [Zebulon] And then

 

there's the basement

and I have no idea

 

what's down there.

- [Matt] All right. Well, let's

 

start down in the basement.

- [Zebulon] Okay. All right.

(strumming folk music)

- [Matt] Look at this.

So, what's it like coming

 

down here as a kid.

- [Zebulon] Well,

 

my parents didn't

like coming down here that much.

- [Matt] Yeah, I believe it.

This is kind of spooky

 

and cool at the same time.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

Me and my brother

 

liked it down here.

- [Matt] So, what kind of

 

stuff is this over here?

- [Zebulon] Some are from

 

tenants and some is family.

Some is not.

- [Matt] okay.

I'm seeing some

 

sweet tags down here.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

 

(club music)

- [Matt] Who were

 

the fresh friends?

- [Zebulon] (laughter)

 

Fresh Friends crew

that goes back to, you

 

know, the eighties.

- [Zebulon] I mean

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] I would hang down

 

here with some of my friends

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] And

 

we were, you know,

into rap and hip hop and we

 

tried our best to do a little

graffiti. It's not, that's it.

- [Matt] We got some

 

Fat Boys, over here.

We got the, was

 

that y'all's group?

The Fresh Friends?

- [Zebulon] That's it.

Yeah. We were the Fresh Friends.

Roxanne Roxanne, Fat Boys.

Those were some of the names

 

that we were really into.

- [Matt] OH, I love it.

 

What's the timeline on moving?

- [Zebulon] We've got

 

about a month, maybe two.

- [Matt] Okay.

So, the space

 

- Yes (sighs)

- has got to be empty for you

 

to be able to sell this place.

- [Zebulon] My uncle

 

would say broom clean.

- [Matt] Yeah, broom swept,

 

(laughter)

Is what the realtor's

 

going to tell us.

- [Pre-recorded Matt]

 

There's no one room

that's completely full,

but there's a little bit of

 

stuff in every single room.

So, by the time you get three

 

floors and the basement done,

it does add up.

And I can see why

 

they need our help.

- [Matt] All right.

Well, maybe it's time

 

we go find a place,

sit down and we'll go

 

through the Legacy List.

- [Zebulon] That sounds great.

- All right, let's do it.

 

(guitar music)

- [Pre-Recorded Matt] I feel

 

the weight of this situation.

It's very similar

 

to my situation,

with my mom.

- [Zebulon] Mhmm.

- [Matt] Tried to get my mom

 

to relocate to Atlanta where

I moved and I got a flat, no.

- [Zebulon] Okay.

 

Yeah. (laughter)

- [Matt] Flat, no.

 

Wasn't even a maybe.

But it did instigate

 

the process for her.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Matt] So, it's interesting.

We're very in

 

similar paths here.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] This isn't

 

the stuff, downsizing.

The stuff is pretty,

 

you have enough volume

where it's not that bad.

I think this is more an

 

emotional and a more like, hey,

are we doing the right thing?

- [Zebulon] Yeah (sighs).

- [Matt] How do we get this

 

wrapped? How do we do it?

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] The urgency is there.

- [Zebulon] (deep

 

sigh) Yeah. It's hard.

- [Matt] It is hard.

It's why I'm here.

 

(nervous laughter)

That's why we're here. I

 

was glad you called me.

We knew each other before this.

 

We've helped each other out

professionally.

- [Zebulon] Yes.

- [Matt] And it is an honor

to be here in your

 

home to help you, now,

as a friend.

So, thank you for having us.

 

All right.

So, you called me here to

 

help with the Legacy List.

We're going to go

 

through these items.

- [Zebulon] All right.

- [Matt] As a

 

reminder to everybody,

a Legacy List item is an item

 

that you want to hold onto

that will help extend

 

your family story

for generations to come.

Lots of times you want us

 

to help find those items.

And then sometimes you just

 

need additional information on

items or other

 

things in your house.

What are our items?

- [Zebulon] One thing

that I've always been

 

interested in is, you know,

there's this medical bag

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] That I know that

 

someone in the family used.

It might belong to my mom.

Might have been something

 

of hers because I know

that she used to be a midwife.

- [Matt] Really?

 

- And

Yep, I remember her going out

 

to help people have babies,

 

I guess.

It's, I think it's like,

I remember it being like

 

a black bag with handles.

- [Matt] Okay. Old-school

 

medical bag, big handle.

- [Zebulon] Yeah. I

 

haven't seen it in years.

- [Matt] Okay. Alright.

 

Alright. So what's

 

the next item?

- [Zebulon] My dad loved music

- [Matt] Mhmm.

- [Zebulon] And he was just,

 

really personified who he was.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] And he had this

 

old, you know, reel-to-reel

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] tape machine. Yeah.

- [Matt] So would he record

 

stuff? What would he do?

- [Zebulon] Yeah, I

 

think he recorded stuff.

I know he loved to, you

 

know, to record tapes.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] He made

 

mixed tapes, basically.

I guess we'd call them.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] And it

 

was something like,

I was always fascinated with.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] First of

 

all, he would never

let me really

 

touch it that much.

(embarrassed laughter)

- [Matt] Well, How old were you?

- [Zebulon] Yeah. I think

that's what made it

 

so fascinating to me.

It just had this aura

 

of like specialness

and it really was special.

I'd love to find that.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] It's probably,

 

thing I treasure most.

- [Matt] Do you

 

remember listening to

 

music with your dad?

- [Zebulon] Oh, yeah. Of course.

That's what was special

 

about it. (voice cracks)

Spending time with my dad.

 

- [Matt] Miss your dad, man.

(sniffle)

- [Zebulon] I really do.

- [Matt] I know.

(sigh)

- [Matt] Well,

 

with the pandemic,

with caretaking and with life,

you didn't get the proper

 

grief cycle, you know.

 

And as you know..

 

All right, need a second?

 

- Sorry?

- [Matt] No, man,

 

this is part of it.

Part of the journey

(sigh)

Part of going through the house.

It's to cry and

 

laugh and do it all.

- [Zebulon] You can't-

- [Matt] If you haven't

 

grieved what's in the house

you can't get rid of it.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

 

- [Matt] So let's grieve it.

 

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

He had a deep connection

with his father and it really

kind of existed in music.

And so, this reel-to-reel,

it's really important.

And that's why, I'm

 

bringing Mike in on it.

Because it's probably

the most important item

 

on the Legacy List.

- [Matt] What's the next

 

item we're looking at.

- [Zebulon] There used to be,

 

like, this sewing machine.

I remember seeing.

It's really old.

So I know that it

 

might've belonged,

 

even to my grandmother?

 

And my mom also loved to sew.

- [Matt] Was it in a base?

Or was it, have a

 

handle you pick up?

- [Zebulon] It's in a, like

 

it looks like a, lunchbox.

- [Matt] All right.

So it's after 1900.

 

- Ahh

I know to much

 

about these things.

- [Zebulon] Okay. All right.

- [Matt] I know

 

exactly, I will find it.

And I will learn lots about it.

- [Zebulon] All right. I

 

remember it as a kid and

something I, you know,

 

stands out in my mind.

 

This next one's kinda, like,

 

kind of really a mystery.

This old adding machine.

- [Matt] Okay.

 

(piano music)

- [Zebulon] I'm not sure who

 

it belonged to, but, you know,

I know my grandfather,

 

William Deare, he,

he worked for Jordan

 

Marsh Company.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] So, projections

 

and futures and figures.

That was his thing.

- [Matt] Tell me about him.

- [Zebulon] Ah, well, he's

 

a quite a legend, you know.

Fought in world war II

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] veteran.

He was stationed in

 

Tuskegee, Alabama.

He wasn't a flyer himself,

but he worked with

 

Tuskegee airmen.

But when he came back from world

 

war II to Boston, you know,

 

he was able to buy his

 

own home for the family.

At that time.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt] Race

 

is a part of Zebulon's story.

We're in Boston.

That is a town that's

 

had historically

challenging race relations.

And Zebulon grew up in this

 

town, a mixed race child.

And he is an African-American

 

History professor.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

As a black man at that

 

time coming to Boston.

He probably saw and

 

experienced a lot of things.

- [Matt] Yes!

(laughter)

- [Zebulon] But it

 

didn't stop him.

You know, he was a real

kind of cornerstone builder.

- [Matt] Okay.

 

(laughter)

- [Matt] All right.

 

What else do we have?

- [Zebulon] I know that there's

 

been work on our genealogy.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] I know

 

my mom's done some.

I know my uncle

 

has done some too,

but I'd love to

 

know more about it.

- [Matt] Okay.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] This is the one

that means the most

 

to me, as well.

I want to find out more

 

information for you guys.

This is great, man.

We can do all of this.

on top of that,

 

we're going to need

to help you clean

 

up a little bit.

- [Zebulon] Okay.

- [Matt] I want to get

 

down to the basement.

Help you get that ready.

I want to get the,

get the rooms that

 

I saw cleaned out.

- [Zebulon] right on.

- [Matt] All right, dude.

I appreciate it.

 

Appreciate your time.

- [Zebulon] Yes, sir.

- [Matt] I'm gonna get to work.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

I wanted to get my team

in here to get everything

 

that we possibly can

out of this house

so that it makes the decision

as easy as possible for

 

Zebulon and Veronica.

 

(instrumental music)

 

- [Mike] Hello?

- [Jamie] Knock, knock?

- [Matt] I'm back here.

- [Jamie] Hello?

- [Avi] Where is right here?

 

- Where?

- [Matt] Follow my

 

voice. I'm back here.

Can you hear me?

- [Jamie] Follow your Voice.

- [Mike] Oh, boy.

- [Matt] Hey guys.

- [Jamie] Well, there he is.

- [Matt] What's up?

- [Avi] What's up?

 

What's happenin'?

- [Matt] Welcome to Boston.

- [Jamie] How's it going?.

- [Matt] How are you?

- [Jamie] Bean town.

- [Matt] Bean town.

How's the trip?

- [Mike] Good.

- [Avi] Great trip.

- [Jamie] It was good.

I took the train up and it

 

went all along the coast.

It was really pretty.

- [Matt] Oh, that's cool.

- [Jamie] Yeah.

- [Matt] All right.

This is a, is a deep

 

one, this week guys.

Really good family.

Zebulon Miletsky,

 

if you remember him

from our work with ASALH.

- [Avi] Yeah, absolutely.

- [Matt] This is

 

his childhood home.

So they've been here for 40

 

plus years and it's time for mom

to move.

 

I'm not sure if she's

 

committed to that yet, but

(laughter)

But Zebulon and his brother are.

- [Mike] Getting a

 

house ready for sale.

That's a very defined project.

Convincing mom that it's time

to move and actually moving her.

It's a much bigger job.

 

- [Jamie] It sounds like,

 

kind of a common theme

with our clients.

 

- Very common.

Where like, they know

 

parent needs to move

- [Matt] Mhmm.

- [Jamie] But parents not ready.

- [Matt] Yeah.

They're waiting to see

 

how well the house sells.

They have not picked a place

 

for their mother to go.

- [Jamie] Mhmm.

- [Matt] which is

 

kind of, we see that.

- [Avi] Yeah.

- [Matt] They're just a

 

little, a little stuck.

- [Jamie] Sounds like he

 

just needs some support,

some outside support

- [Matt] Mhmm.

- [Jamie] And maybe

 

some resources-

- [Matt] Yes!

- [Jamie] To help him get

 

through this transition.

- [Matt] Definitely.

- [Pre-Recorded Jamie]

 

Moving a parent is a

highly emotional event.

Coming to grips with the fact

 

that the people that you love

are aging can be really hard.

- [Mike] So, Matt.

What are we looking

 

for this week?

- [Matt] All right.

Very emotional Legacy List.

We've got a reel-to-reel,

 

that was his dad's.

I don't know if we'll find

 

any actual reels or not,

but the machine he

 

really wants to find.

- [Avi] Mhm.

- [Matt] we've got an

 

old adding machine.

That was his grandfather's

 

and then we've got his,

thinks it's his grandmother's

 

old singer sewing machine.

And then, his mom's

 

old medical bag.

His mom was a midwife in

 

Berkeley, in the sixties.

- [Mike] Wow.

- [Jamie] Wow.

- [Matt] Yeah. Really cool.

- [Jamie] That's incredible.

- [Matt] Yeah. She's here.

She's on the third floor.

So hopefully she'll be able

 

to help us out with that.

- [Jamie] Wow.

- [Avi] That'd be great

- [Matt] And then the last

 

one is a more common one.

We're hearing more and more.

They have a lot of information

 

from their family history and

they want additional help

with that genealogy.

His mom had done a lot of

 

it and she kind of hit a

brick wall.

- [Mike] Wow

- [Matt] So, we'll

 

get our team together

to work on that as well.

- [Jamie] Yeah-

- [Avi] Yeah, I'm looking

 

forward to talking

to him about that.

- [Matt] They have

 

a ton of history.

We need to put the

 

puzzle together.

We also need to clean out the

 

basement and a couple of the

rooms on this level.

- [Mike] Okay.

- [Matt] You guys will

 

stay on this floor

mainly because the

 

records are here

and I need you to go

 

through all the records.

- [Mike] Oh, I'd love to.

- [Matt] Music is

 

what Zebulon remembers

about his dad.

- [Mike] That's awesome.

- [Matt] So, I'm excited

to see what else you

 

can find up here.

- [Mike] Okay.

Well, we'll just have

to work with the family

 

and figure out what

are the most important items

 

and what needs to happen.

- [Matt] Okay.

Jamie and Mike can

 

start in there.

Avi, you and I are going

 

to go down to the basement.

- [Avi] Let's do it.

- [All] All right. All right.

- [Jamie] Have fun.

- [Matt} We'll see you

 

guys in a little bit.

- [Mike] See ya.

- Holler if you need help

 

- If it gets hot,

come on down to the basement.

(laughter)

- [Jamie] That's

 

where the AC is.

 

(peppy jazz music)

 

- [Avi] The basement.

- [Matt] Typical basement.

- [Avi] Ooh, typical

 

basement smells.

So, these triple deckers,

like Jamie was mentioning.

I mean, they have three

 

of everything, right?

- [Matt] Everything.

Heat, air.

- [Matt] New electrical

 

boxes. Triples of everything.

- [Pre-Recorded

 

Avi] I personally

had never seen a triple

 

decker home, like this.

I knew they were pretty

 

common in Boston.

- [Avi] I mean, it was

 

the way of living, right?

I mean this how Boston grew.

 

- [Narrator] The triple decker.

It's not just a sandwich.

The name also refers to a

 

three-story dwelling that houses

a different family

 

on each floor.

They become popular

 

(swing music)

during the late 19th

 

century and are inhabited

mainly by immigrant families

 

seeking affordable housing.

Where were they most popular?

Boston, of course.

The New York times declares,

 

living in a triple decker is as

much a part of the Boston

 

cultural experience as despising

the Yankees.

(crowd boos)

The beauty of the

 

triple decker is

that it gives working

 

class families

a shot at owning

 

their own homes.

They can live in one unit

and rent out the other two

 

(door bell rings)

And unlike cramped tenements,

triple deckers offer

 

working people,

dignified living conditions

 

with working bathrooms and

windows on four

 

sides of the house.

By the 20th century,

triple deckers are a

 

fixture in Boston's Irish

and Italian neighborhoods.

But there's a backlash.

Housing planners favor

 

suburban sprawl over density

and triple deckers are banned.

Some believe, it's a way

for city officials to

 

curtail immigration.

By the 1950s,

families flee the

 

city for the suburbs

and many of these

 

historical icons

fall into disrepair.

But leave it to the triple

 

decker to have the last laugh.

As cities like Boston

 

face new housing crises,

the triple decker is a prime

 

candidate for rehabilitation.

With a little work,

these hundred year old

 

structure's provide

 

energy efficient,

affordable housing to a whole

 

new generation of families.

There's no place like home.

 

(upbeat music)

 

- [Matt] Moving a couch

 

doesn't really excite me,

but getting to dig through

 

somebody's records and CDs

that is what I want to do.

- [Matt] I'm going to

 

name the album title.

And you tell me

 

who the artist is.

- [Jamie] Okay.

- [Matt] Always On My Mind.

 

- [Jamie] This is not

 

a fun game for Me.

- [Matt] Jamie, This

 

is the first one!

That was Willie Nelson.

- [Jamie] Okay. Never

 

would've gotten that, Matt.

- [Matt] All, right.

 

No peeking by the way.

Word of Mouth.

- [Jamie] The Kinks.

- [Matt] Ja-You're

 

peeking. I can tell it.

- [Jamie] I'm definitely not.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt] His

 

dad was such a music lover

that I was just

 

having a blast digging

through this collection.

- [Matt] Here's one of the

 

most iconic album covers

of all time.

- [Jamie] All, right.

- [Matt] You know what it is?

- [Jamie] No idea.

- [Matt] You've never seen this?

- [Jamie] Is that

 

really an album?

- [Matt] Yeah! It's the

 

white album by the Beatles.

- [Jamie] For real?

- [Matt] Yeah. I mean,

 

somebody painted on it,

but it's The White Album

(laughter)

And believe it or not,

this is a thing, like,

a lot of people embellish

 

their White Album covers.

- [Jamie] Okay.

 

That's kind of cool.

- [Matt] It is.

- [Jamie] you know, music is one

of those things that

 

can instantly take you

into, like a moment

 

of nostalgia.

I mean, Zeb could

 

put one of those on

and immediately be

 

transported back

to a time when he was listening

 

to 'em with his parents.

- [Matt] Absolutely.

 

(ska music)

Old snowboard.

 

- [Avi] I got some good,

 

good tapes over here, man.

- [Matt] Yeah?

- [Avi] Austin Powers,

 

little White Men Can't Jump.

 

- [Matt] I think

 

they watched, I mean,

- [Avi] Back to the Future.

- [Matt] Oh my God.

(laughter)

- [Matt] Back to the future

 

and Ferris Beuller's Day Off.

- [Avi] And Commando.

Oh. Schwartzenegger.

- [Matt] It's everything we did.

- [Avi] it is. I feel like I'm,

you know, I'm going

 

through my stuff at home.

- [Zebulon] Hey

- [Matt] How's it doing Zebulon?

- [Zebulon] pretty

 

good. Not too bad.

You know. I see you got some

 

stuff going on out here.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

Usually it's the furniture

and the beds and the

 

dishes. They all go first.

And then it's the personal

 

effects like records and photos

and things like

 

that. That go last.

And that was the case here.

- [Matt] Is there any

 

category that you could say,

either ,I definitely know I want

to keep all of these

 

or I definitely know

I don't need any of them.

- [Zebulon] Oh yeah.

Well, the family photos, I

 

mean, I got to keep those.

- [Jamie] Okay.

 

Keep family photos.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Jamie] That's great.

(laughter)

- [Matt] Any thought

 

on the books?

- [Zebulon] I think I could

 

definitely give away the books.

- [Jamie And Matt] Okay.

- [Jamie] Okay.

This is a lot of your

 

mom's stuff from her,

when she was a midwife.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Jamie] I mean,

 

is that something

that we want to think about

 

keeping and sorting through?

- [Zebulon] Definitely.

- [Jamie] Okay.

- [Zebulon] Yeah. That

 

is really important.

- [Jamie] Okay.

- [Zebulon] And thank you

 

for, for putting it aside,

because that is obviously

 

super important.

- [Jamie] Yeah.

- [Matt] Absolutely.

(folk music)

- [Narrator] As long as

 

babies have been born,

midwives have been

 

there to catch them.

Until a hundred years ago,

 

(newborn crying)

most women give birth at home,

surrounded by a midwife,

 

family and friends.

Childbirth in medieval Europe

 

and colonial America is a

ladies social event.

For centuries midwifery

 

is the rare domain

in which women are widely

 

respected as wise elders.

But, as medicine becomes

 

more specialized in

 

the 20th century,

obstetrics displaces, midwifery.

Wealthy women flock

 

to male doctors

who promise the latest equipment

 

and painless deliveries.

Seeing midwives as competition

 

for profits and patients,

obstetricians launch an ad

 

campaign to discredit midwives.

It works.

 

In 1907, a Massachusetts

 

Supreme court ruling

makes midwifery illegal.

But nevertheless,

 

midwifery persists.

In rural Southern communities,

black Southern midwives known

 

as Granny or Grand Midwives

care for mothers who can't

 

access segregated hospitals.

They're champions

 

of Public Health.

Instrumental in vaccinating

their communities

 

against disease.

One notable Grand

 

Midwife is Mary Coley.

She helps deliver an estimated

 

3,000 Georgia babies.

 

When it comes to midwifery,

the US remains an outlier

 

among affluent countries.

Midwives here, attend

 

about 10% of births.

In France, Sweden and Norway,

midwives oversee the

 

majority of deliveries.

Across the pond, in

 

the United Kingdom

midwives deliver

 

half of all babies.

Including, Kate Middleton's.

(bell dings)

American midwifery is

 

slowly making a comeback.

Today, there are around 11,000

American certified

 

nurse midwives.

And like they've

 

done for centuries,

they guide mothers

 

through the anticipation,

pain and wonder of childbirth.

 

(instrumental music)

- [Jamie] We're

 

going to get the rest

of this room cleaned

 

up and a little bit

more organized for you.

And, we're going to pack

 

up all of the family photos

and documents that

 

we find for keep.

And, we're also going to pack

 

up all of your mom's stuff

that's related to

 

her career to keep.

- [Zebulon] That sounds great. Y

- [Matt] You know,

as far as the tapes and

 

records are concerned,

I'll go through 'em.

If I see anything

 

with any real value,

I'll pull 'em to the side.

- [Zebulon] That

 

will be amazing.

(laughter)

- [Jamie] Yeah.

- [Jamie Pre-Recorded] In

 

a situation like Zebulon's,

it's really important for

 

him to have the support

around him so that he can keep

 

the process moving forward.

So, I was really grateful

 

that we could be part of that.

- [Jamie] So, our goal is

to get this room cleaned up

and really get

 

you ready to move.

- [Zebulon] That sounds

 

great. I'll leave you to it.

(laughter)

- [Jamie] Sounds good. Thanks.

- [Matt] Thanks, Zebulon.

- [Zebulon] Thanks again.

 

(banging and sorting)

 

- [Matt] Ooh, I've got

 

a lot of movies, man.

- [Avi] I'm telling you.

- [Matt] I mean, I watched

 

Ace Ventura, 400 times

Uh, oh. Here we are.

 

Here's the real thing.

Oh, look at that.

- [Avi] That is cool.

- [Matt] That is an

 

old, look at that.

- [Avi] That's it!

- [Matt] Look-

- [Avi] look at the

 

condition of this thing.

- [Matt] I know, really.

- [Avi] That's a

 

great find there, man.

- [Matt] It's beautiful.

I know it really represents

 

his grandfather being a

successful young

 

man after the war.

- [Avi] Yeah.

 

- [Pre-Recorded

 

Avi] Not only did

this machine represent Zebulon's

grandfather's rise

 

in his own career,

but it was a opportunity

 

for the family to rise.

This opportunity gave his family

a chance for upper mobility.

 

- [Matt] Yeah, it's a Locked

 

Pay Master Protection.

So, this was for the guy

 

that had to cut the checks.

- [Avi] Absolutely.

- [Matt] That is a

 

Legacy List item.

This is really, really cool.

- [Avi] That's fascinating.

- [Matt] I know Zebulon's

 

got a lot of pride in this.

All right, I'm putting

 

this to the side.

- [Avi] That's awesome.

- [Matt] All right.

 

Keep looking.

- [Avi] Good. Good finding.

(organ music)

 

- [Jamie] All right.

Why don't you finish up in here?

- [Matt] Mhm.

- [Jamie] There's a closet

that I need to check

 

in this other room.

You got it?

- [Matt] I got this.

- [Jamie] I can leave you alone?

- [Matt] I think so.

- [Jamie] All right.

Let me know if

 

you find anything.

- [Matt] Oh, you know, I will

(upbeat music)

 

- [Avi] Ah, oh, Matt.

 

- [Matt] What'd you find?

- [Avi] Yeah. Had to

 

even the things up here.

(banging of items)

I think I got-

- [Matt] Oh, the

 

singer be careful

with that one.

 

- Got the singer, my friend.

(boxes moving)

- [Matt] Here, bring

 

this out right here.

- [Avi] Look at that.

 

- Nice.

(boxes moving)

- [Matt] Look at that.

- [Avi] Ooh.

- [Matt] Beautiful.

- [Avi] Ooh.

- [Matt] So, normally

 

you and I find

those, they're actually

 

attached to a big table.

- [Avi] Yeah.

- [Matt] So, this was one

of the first portable

- [Avi] Man.

- [Matt] It's super cool.

- [Avi] I mean,

 

that thing is heavy.

- [Matt] Very heavy.

(laughs)

- [Avi] So, to call that

 

portable is interesting.

- [Matt] But man, I cant

 

think of my grandma hauling

this thing around,

- [Avi] Me either. Hey, they

 

did what they had to do.

You know.

- [Matt] This is the

 

first side hustle.

- [Avi] The side hustle. Yeah.

- [Matt] This is the very first

side hustle.

 

- The side hustle

- And so you could

 

make extra money.

You can make clothes for

 

other people at home.

Cause this was

 

affordable and portable.

- [Avi] So who would

 

this have belonged to?

- [Matt] Knowing this model,

it would have been 1910 or 1911.

Zebulon's great-grandmother.

- [Avi] So, this thing

 

is a hundred years old.

- [Matt] Oh, yeah. More

 

than a hundred years old.

(snarky laughter)

- [Matt] It's pretty cool.

- [Avi] It is.

 

(acoustic guitar music)

 

- [Matt] Hey Jamie,

 

finding anything good?

- [Jamie] Well, I

 

found some more books

which is not that surprising.

Oh, wait a second.

I think I might have

 

something. Come here.

- [Matt] All right.

- [Jamie] Check this out.

 

It's her medical bag.

- [Matt] The bag.

- [Jamie] Yeah.

- [Matt] Here, let

 

me hold it for you.

- [Jamie] Look at that.

 

It's a beautiful bag.

- [Matt] It looks very

 

sixties, seventies to me.

- [Jamie] Yeah.

- [Pre-Recorded

 

Jamie] To think of all

of the stories of bringing

 

life into the world

that she got to witness

 

with those tools

was just really, really cool.

- [Matt] How many babies

 

were brought into this world

using these things.

- [Jamie] I mean, the

 

fact that they've held on

to this bag for this

 

many years must mean

that it holds a lot

 

of sentimental value.

- [Matt] No doubt.

- [Jamie] This is awesome.

 

(jazz music)

 

- [Avi] You're Jewish,

 

African-American in Boston.

 

How did that impact influence

 

you as you were growing up?

- [Zebulon] My black

 

family is from Boston.

They're here in Boston.

- [Avi] Mhm.

- [Zebulon] So, in that sense,

I just grew up

 

identifying as black.

- [Avi] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] Some people

 

may not have liked

how I identified, you know,

I had a lot of hurdles

 

that I had to jump over,

you know.

But most African-Americans do.

- [Avi] Yeah.

- [Pre-Recorded Avi]I could

 

see in talking with him,

some of the pain that

 

might've been a part of that,

but also just the great

 

strength that it created in him,

to have to have that

 

experience and live through it.

- [Zebulon] I think

 

it's no secret

that Boston has had struggle

 

with issues of race.

- [Avi] And I know

 

you're a professor.

Africana studies.

I was hoping you might

 

be able to tell me,

somewhere that I

 

could go, you know,

that I could really get a

 

strong sense of, you know,

where it all started

 

for African-Americans

 

in Boston and you

know how we got to this point.

- [Zebulon] Yeah. Well,

 

there's no better place

than the African Meeting House.

So, the African meeting

 

house is the oldest,

continuously

 

freestanding church.

Black church in America.

In Boston, it was a place

where African Americans gathered

to discuss

important issues and to

 

make important decisions.

- [Avi] So, not just spiritual

- [Zebulon] Not just

 

spiritual, that's right.

Groups who were mostly involved

in racial justice efforts,

whether it was abolitionism

 

or even schooling.

- [Pre-Recorded Avi] Now,

 

that I'm talking to Zebulon,

I'm on my way to the

Museum of African-American

 

History in Boston.

- [Avi] So, the family

 

we're working with,

the grandfather after

 

returning from world war II,

purchased a home in the

 

Southeast section of Boston.

In the 1950s.

And I'm just curious

 

to hear from you,

what would that have been like

 

as the first African-American

family to move into an

 

all white community?

 

- [Historian]

 

Southie has been a,

an area of much contention that

 

was highlighted in the 1970

busing crisis for integration

 

of schools and the fact that

there were no, at one

 

time, no black policemen,

no black firemen.

It would be difficult

 

to process being human,

 

being black and being there.

 

- [Avi] It's difficult

 

to think about

this is where America started.

Like, here we are at

 

its humble beginnings,

The space of its

 

humble beginnings.

And we're still

 

challenged with so much.

- [Historian] So, Avi,

This is the sanctuary of

 

the African Meeting House.

 

- [Avi] Mmm.

 

- [Historian] They built

 

themselves a meeting house.

- [Avi] This is clearly to

 

me, a space of spirituality.

- [Historian] Absolutely.

- [Avi] What other purposes

 

would the meeting house have?

- [Historian] This housed the

 

first African Baptist church.

So it was religious purposes.

It also housed a

 

school in the basement.

And the third reason was

 

to be able to assembly,

to meet their issues of

 

the day and the commitment

to ending slavery in America.

- [Avi] Mmm.

- [Narrator] So, this

 

building was built

as a gathering space.

- [Avi] Yes.

- [Historian] It was identified

as the African Meeting House.

- [Avi] So, what were

 

some of the meetings

that would have taken

 

place in this space?

- [Historian] When

 

abolitionists meetings ended

in riot at Tremont

 

Temple, or Nathaniel Hall,

they would run to the

 

African Meeting House.

Frederick Douglas

 

brings his meeting here

- [Avi] Mmm.

- [Historian] And

 

speaks from that podium.

When that happens.

- [Pre-Recorded Avi] The story

that rang with me was a

 

Frederick Douglas leaving

 

a talk

because the crowd didn't

 

want to hear him talk.

Coming to that meeting house

 

and having the space and

freedom to stand there and

 

say what needed to be said,

you know, to speak his truth.

If he could do it in such a

 

challenging space in time,

 

then why can't I?

 

- [Avi] To think

 

about the struggles,

 

the emotions attached to being

 

enslaved and being separated.

 

And, it's just hard to

 

imagine that experience

- [Historian] Yes.

- [Avi] You know, I try,

 

but I don't think I can even

 

understand the gravity of that.

 

- [Historian] Well, what

 

this space allows us

to do is to have more

 

grasp on the details.

 

- [Avi] Mhm.

- [Historian] We know

 

that freedom wasn't free.

- [Avi] Right.

- [Pre-Recorded Avi] I

 

personally had experienced

a difficult childhood

 

growing up because of

 

racism

 

and being treated differently.

(deep intake of breath)

To know that I was

 

standing in the building

that was one of

 

the first buildings

 

erected for the purpose

of educating black children.

 

I mean my feet on

 

their feet, you know,

just having the opportunity

 

to be where I am

to even share this

 

story, freely.

 

It just, it rings heavy.

 

(upbeat music)

- [Matt] We've intentionally

 

been very careful with Veronica

and we wanted her to wait

 

and invite us up to speak.

And finally that has happened.

I'm really excited that I

 

do sit down with Veronica

and hear her story.

- [Matt] So, how long have

 

you lived in this building?

- [Veronica] Since about 1985.

- [Matt] Okay. So, gosh.

 

Just under 40 years.

- [Veronica] Yes.

- [Matt] It's a long

 

time. You're being faced

with the decision of

 

what do I do next.

Do I move? Do I stay?

- [Veronica] Exactly.

- [Matt] If someone

 

came to you and said,

oh, how's it going?

 

What should I do?

What advice would you give?

- [Veronica] Oh.

If you have family

to really check in

 

with them because they

can give you a lot of

 

wisdom and grounding.

You know, especially

 

a close family,

such as we are.

I feel, Zebulon's very, very

 

concerned and interested.

And so, you know, I'm

 

looking to him also.

I'm not doing all this by

 

myself and that feels good.

- [Matt] Mhm.

- [Veronica] You

 

know, just to know

that I have that, you know,

the love of my son,

 

Jamie, as well.

Very supportive and just

 

helping me move along.

I think the other thing is

 

just to try to have faith.

That things are going to

 

move ahead and work out.

 

- [Pre-Recorded Matt] We

 

found the reel-to-reel player

in the closet on

 

the first floor.

It was buried under some boxes

 

and behind some other things.

- [Matt] This item more than

any other really speaks

 

to Zebulon's dad.

 

- [Jamie] I know, this is

 

really important to Zebulon.

How common was it for a

 

household to have one of these?

- [Matt] Yeah, not every

 

house had one of these.

But if you were

 

serious about music,

like, almost audiophile level.

- [Jamie] Yeah.

- [Matt] You probably had one.

The beauty of this system is

 

you can actually record things

on it yourself.

- [Jamie] Ohh. Oh yeah.

 

Here's the record button.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Jamie] It's like, if you want

to record your own music

or, like even just

 

talking into it.

- [Matt] Absolutely.

And hopefully these reels

 

are somewhere in here because

we've got to try and find some.

- [Jamie] Yeah. This

 

is a Legacy List item.

High five.

(Hands slap)

- [Matt] Whoo.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt] Finding

 

the reel to reel was amazing,

but I wasn't going to be

 

satisfied until I knew for sure

that this thing worked.

(old-timey music)

- [Narrator] The

 

reel-to-reel tape player,

a sophisticated recording

 

device that is yet another

evolutionary step in the

 

history of recorded sound.

 

That history involves

 

someone who is

ironically partially deaf.

 

In 1877, Thomas Edison

 

makes a lot of noise

when he invents the phonograph.

The strange looking device

 

uses tinfoil wrapped around a

cylinder to capture sound.

The first recorded music,

Yankee Doodle Dandy,

 

played on the coronet.

 

Edison loves his

 

invention so much,

he embeds miniature

 

phonographs in talking dolls.

Unsurprisingly, the creepy

 

nursery rhyme shrieking toys

are a commercial flop.

 

(trombone sound)

As the 20th century dawns,

the gramophone hits the

 

market and flat disks are

all the rage.

After world war II, an American

 

major brings reel-to-reel

technology back

 

home from Germany.

He sets up a demo for studio

 

executives and shocks them

by toggling between a live

 

jazz group and a recording.

 

Is it live, he asks?

 

They are stumped.

None other than White

 

Christmas crooner,

Bing Crosby hears about it

 

and invests in the company.

He becomes the first performer

 

to prerecord a radio show.

 

Bulky reel-to-reel players

are popular

 

(jazz music)

until the early 1960s.

(whir of cassette tape)

When the cassette

 

tape is introduced.

Compact discs

follow along in the eighties,

 

(break dance music)

followed by digital downloads.

Today, streaming

 

services contain nearly

 

everything recorded

that matters to anyone.

Music, audio books,

 

podcasts, and more.

Recorded audio has

 

come a long way

in the last hundred

 

and 50 years.

And the future is sure to

 

hold even more technological

breakthroughs.

Sounds good to me.

 

(upbeat acoustic music)

 

- [Pre-Recorded Matt] It was

 

really important to Zebulon

that we kept as many things out

 

of the landfill as possible,

but then, also donated

 

as much as possible.

They weren't really

 

interested so much in selling.

But as long as the items

 

were getting another life

with somebody else

 

that made them happy.

My team and I cleaned

 

out the first floor.

We cleaned out the basement.

The only area we couldn't

 

start in was the third floor.

And that's where

 

Zebulon's mom was living.

She just wasn't ready.

It was clear, Zebulon was

 

carrying a lot of weight

on his shoulders.

But hopefully our work,

 

helped lighten the load.

 

(upbeat music)

- [Matt] You will see

 

a lot of empty space.

- [Zebulon] Oh wow. Oh

 

man, this looks great.

- [Matt] We did a lot of work.

We got all the

 

clutter cleared out.

We donated a ton of books

 

and cleared out the closet

over there.

We cleared out the

 

space in the basement.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Matt] So, you're

 

not ready to move.

(laughter)

- [Matt] We didn't really

 

address your mom's level,

but we have gotten some of

 

the extra space down here.

- [Zebulon] I tell you,

 

it's ,it's cathartic.

That's the word I'm gonna use.

It's, it just feels open.

And I'm feeling like, less

 

and less of that weight on me.

The pressure.

- [Matt] That is

 

the goal we wanted.

- [Zebulon] I'm seeing

 

the progress and

 

that makes me happy.

- [Matt] We're not

 

solving the whole problem,

but we are helping

 

you get started.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] The physical

 

part was easy.

The mental part is

 

the challenging part.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] All right. So.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] I think we

 

should go sit down,

go through your Legacy List.

I think it'll all come

 

together when we're done.

- [Zebulon] That sounds good.

- [Matt] All right. Let's do it.

 

(peppy acoustic guitar music)

- [Pre-Recorded

 

Matt] This has been

an emotional week for all of us.

And I'm really excited to sit

 

down with Zebulon and show

him everything that we found.

- [Mike] What's been

 

the hardest thing

in this whole process?

- [Zebulon] Probably, I'd say

 

if I'm being honest. Yeah.

A little bit of

 

indecision, you know,

trying to get everybody

 

on the same page.

I'm realizing that these

 

things take time to plan

and you have to have a plan.

This helps a lot.

Just having less stuff helps

 

us to execute our plan.

- [Matt] And I'm not even going

to ask you where

 

mom's going yet,

because I want to get

 

through this stuff.

But I will tell you-

- [Zebulon] Thank you

(laughter)

- [Matt] Because I know you

 

guys haven't decided yet.

- [Zebulon] Yeah

- [Matt] And I think we're,

I hope this process

 

has helped you guys get

closer to that decision.

- [Zebulon] I hope so too,

because it's all about a

 

good place for her to be.

- [Matt] All right. Let's

 

get into this stuff.

We've got, we got a few items

 

we found on your Legacy List.

All right.

(items shuffling)

Ironically, the first item

 

is a portable sewing machine.

 

It's pretty heavy though.

- [Zebulon] Yes!

- [Matt] It doesn't

 

really feel portable.

- [Zebulon] Oh, man. I knew

 

I had seen this before.

- [Matt] All right.

This is a very famous model.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Matt] So knowing

 

the dates on this,

it makes me thinks that it

 

is your great-grandmother Amy

Sinclair's.

- [Zebulon] Oh man. I bet it is.

It just looks cool.

 

It looks historic.

And obviously it goes way back.

- [Matt] Everyone in your

 

family worked really hard.

- [Zebulon] And she was

 

West Indian, from Jamaica.

She worked extremely hard to

 

come to America and be here.

 

Yeah.

- [Matt] We are who we

 

are because we watch

our ancestors do it.

- [Zebulon] Mhm.

- [Matt] And I'm lucky

 

enough to see this,

that it trickles

 

down generationally.

- [Zebulon] Amazing.

- [Matt] And it starts in

 

little things like this.

- [Zebulon] Ah, I feel.. I'm

 

very touched to see this.

 

- [Matt] All right

- [Zebulon] Whoa

- [Matt] The next item we found.

- [Zebulon] You found it.

- [Matt] Well, you asked

 

me to find, you asked me

to find the counting machine.

This is not a counting machine.

It's actually a check printing

 

machine or they call it,

a check writing machine.

- [Zebulon] Whoa.

- [Matt] And-

- [Zebulon] PayMaster.

- [Matt] Yeah. So, this

 

is a big deal because

this is how people got paid.

- [Zebulon] The boss.

- [Matt] This was

 

your grandfathers.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] On your mom

 

or your dad's side?

- [Zebulon] My mom's side.

- [Matt] Your mom's side.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] So let's

 

paint the picture.

Let's put a date behind that

 

and let's remind each other

who, you know, this was

 

in what, the fifties?

- [Zebulon] He was a landlord

 

and a property owner.

We went through that.

And I know that he worked

 

for the Jordan Marsh Company.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] And that's a big

 

thing around these parts.

- [Matt] So, he was

 

an internal auditor.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Matt] So, he did payroll.

- [Zebulon] Wow!

(laughter)

- [Matt] You got to

 

think about a black man

running payroll

 

right after the war

and a property owner.

And what we learned on

 

our trip around town,

he was the property

 

owner in a part of town

that he probably

 

wasn't as appreciated.

And it was probably really

 

hard to get that property.

- [Zebulon] Yeah. Yeah.

- [Matt] This is,

 

this is a big deal.

Then you put race and dates

 

behind it and then it becomes

impressive.

 

- [Zebulon] And pull this

 

thing. He was printing checks.

That's amazing.

- [Matt] I mean, and by the way,

all of this was after

 

he served in the war.

- [Zebulon] Yeah, exactly.

- [Matt] We're not even

 

talking about his service.

- [Zebulon] He, right!

 

He had stories a plenty.

You know, he saw the world,

he knew about the world and

 

that's really what he taught us.

 

About money, how the

 

world works, good and bad

and that it can

 

be a tough place.

And to really, you

 

know, know your stuff.

- [Matt] I see a lot

 

of heirlooms, man.

And this is a cool one.

And without the story, this

 

is a green piece of metal.

 

This is something you

 

pass down to your kids.

- [Zebulon] I will

 

Matt. That is-

- [Matt] This is super cool.

- [Zebulon] That is

 

cool. Dollars and cents.

 

(melodic piano)

- [Matt] Let's go

 

on to the next one.

All right.

The next item you

 

asked us to find is

your mom's medical bag.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Matt] It was not difficult

to find but it's

 

a pretty big deal.

 

Oh, you help babies being born.

You know, like,

(laughter)

I mean, it's crazy

 

the things she's done.

We found some great things

 

about your mom, here.

This is the favorite thing

 

I've found in this house.

It's a note from you.

- [Zebulon] To my mom-

- [Matt] I'm going

 

to let you read it.

(chuckles)

It's from 1982.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

Dear mommy,

 

I need you and I love you.

 

I'm sorry we fight all the time,

(laughter, throat clearing)

but I don't know

 

a way to fix that.

Are going to send,

are you going to send

 

me to boarding school?

(guffaws)

I remember this

 

You know, I don't

 

remember this note,

but I remember this

 

boarding school thing,

but let me finish.

I hope not.

I hope we can be friends again.

Love, Zeb. (chuckles) The heart.

Wow.

- [Matt] When you downsize,

 

some of the best stuff to find.

It's just a note.

- [Zebulon] I know.

 

- Pre-Recorded Matt] It's easy

for me to help people

 

find physical items.

But when they find

 

out more about

who they are and

 

their own history,

that's really an awesome

 

thing to see and to feel.

 

And it was even more special

 

to do it with my friend.

- [Matt] Your mom

 

had also asked me

to find some things

 

on the genealogy side.

We were able to get your

 

family back, pretty quickly

tied back

to a community called

 

Warrenton, North Carolina,

a thriving community.

Your great, great, great

 

grandfather, Haywood Arrington.

 

- [Zebulon] I have

 

heard that name.

- [Matt] Okay. This right

here is basically what

 

you would equivalate

to a marriage certificate.

It isn't a marriage, but

 

it's more of a license.

And the date on this is 1866.

 

- [Zebulon] Oh, wow.

- [Matt] So, it says they've

 

been together since 1852.

 

And as we know, the

 

civil war ended in 1865.

So, this was the first time

 

they were allowed to recognize

their marriage.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Matt] Your great,

 

great, great grandfather

and grandmother.

This proves that they were

 

together while enslaved.

And then as soon as

 

they became free,

they were able to get

 

their marriage certificate.

- [Zebulon] Yeah, it says,

 

residents of said county

lately slaves but

 

now emancipated.

 

Wow. This is real history that

 

speaks to the black family.

 

It's so much to take in.

 

(sniff)

Slavery, what our

 

ancestors went through

and still yet, despite

 

all that, they survived

and even sometimes thrived.

 

I'm proud to descend from

 

such people and to know,

to know my enslaved ancestors.

You've given me a huge thing.

This is really powerful gift.

(sniffs)

And my mom will

 

appreciate it, too.

(laughter)

 

- [Matt] I can't wait

for you to show

 

that to your mom.

 

All right.

Thank you.

 

- [Zebulon] Wow. No way.

 

- [Matt] This is one of

 

our Producers. Thank you.

Let me plug this in.

You know what this is?

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] This is your

 

dad's reel-to-reel.

(laughter)

- Obviously.

- [Zebulon] Oh man, I have

 

not seen this in a long time.

- [Matt] Tell me about it.

 

What do you remember about it?

- [Zebulon] Man,

 

it looks smaller.

I remember this

 

thing being so big.

(laughter)

- [Matt] Yeah?

- [Zebulon] It brings

 

back a lot of things.

Looping the tape, watching

 

how it had to be done

and splicing tapes and...

 

I just always, I don't know.

I could never get this

 

out of my mind this,

the way the tapes looked

 

even. It was just so cool.

There's no way this works.

- [Matt] Let's see if it works.

(mechanical click)

- [Zebulon] Wow.

- [Audio Recording Child] Hi.

 

This is Zebby speaking and-

 

- [Zebulon] Oh.. (laughter)

No way!

 

- I want to tell you

a few things

 

- [Audio Recording Child]

 

How you doing, dad?

[Audio Recording

 

Adult] I'm fine.

- [Zebulon] Oh, my God.

- [Audio Recording

 

Child] No, (giggles)

- [Audio Recording Adult]

 

It's January, 1979.

- [Zebulon] Wow.

 

- [Audio Recording Adult] In

 

Jamaica Plain, Massachusets.

- [Audio Recording

 

Child] Hi, I'm Zeb.

- {Audio Recording

 

Adult] Hi, I'm Dad.

- [Audio Recording

 

Adult 2] Hello.

- [Audio Recording

 

Child] This is mommy.

- [Zebulon] Oh, wow. (laughing)

(indistinct chatter)

 

(mechanical click)

 

- [Matt] How you feeling?

- [Zebulon] I can't, I am...

 

I thought, I'm speechless.

- [Matt] Yeah.

- [Zebulon] You

 

know, I remembered us

 

doing special stuff

with this and maybe

that was why I could

 

never forget about it.

That, you made my

 

dream come true.

That was my, I would,

that was my hope, is

 

to find something from,

from all of us back then.

 

I'm blown away.

I am blown away. I

 

can't believe that.

 

And you've really given

 

me, given us a gift.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

So many of us want

to just go back once,

 

for like one minute

and he got to do that.

 

I know I would want to

 

hear my dad's voice again.

And for him to do that,

 

that's really amazing.

- [Matt] You said the

 

first day we got here,

you said you had

 

gotten really stuck.

I know it's a complicated

 

next few months.

- [Zebulon] Yeah.

- [Matt] But y'all are

 

going to be all right.

- [Zebulon] I certainly hope so.

You know, and I feel better,

 

a lot better about it.

Thanks to you, your help.

- [Pre-Recorded Matt]

 

Selling this house

right now will allow

 

Veronica to have a

much happier life for

 

the next 20 years.

And that was a good

 

move for this family.

They did it at the right

 

time because they had

those difficult

 

conversations now.

- [Matt] I want to hear that

 

same conversation with you,

your wife and your kids.

 

- [Zebulon] We'll do it.

(laughter) You got it.

(voice fades)

 

(crescendoing music)

 

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(upbeat music)

 

- [Matt] It was pretty awesome

 

(bluegrass music)

that his mom came down at,

 

you know, the right moment.

She had not really wanted

to participate a whole

 

lot, the whole week.

And she came down and she was

 

there and I was so glad she

was there at that exact moment.

 

- [Zebulon] ] It's for dad.

(Veronica laughs)

(kisses)

 

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