The downsizing is daunting
for a retiree.

When she moves out
of her 6,000 square foot house

 

filled with cherished
family items

 

into a new home
less than half that size.

 

Matt: I'm Matt Paxton.

Let's do it man!

 

My team is specialists:
Jamie, Mike and Avi,

 

help me help people downsize
their homes and settle estates.

 

As the largest population of
baby boomers in American history

transitioned towards retirement

 

they and their families
face the overwhelming task

of emptying their homes to move.

 

We helped them sift through
a lifetime of possessions...

Avi: Bingo!

Matt: Heirlooms and
collectibles...

Jamie: Oh my gosh!
Avi: She's gonna love it.

 

Matt: To help them find
the missing family treasures

that mean the most to them.

 

- Is that a diamond?
- [Huffish]

And along the way they'll
discover that the most important
museum in the world

 

may be in their
family's basement.

- Great grandfather and
grandmother taken in 1880.

Matt: From attics to sellers,

 

closets to cupboards, we uncover
the memories they want to
preserve.

 

This is living history this
is what we're here to find.

Team: Yeah!
Let's go!

 

Matt: And discover the
compelling personal and often
historical stories

 

spanning generations that are
their family's legacy.

 

Today I'm headed to the small
town of historic Newark
Delaware.

 

So I got a call from a lady
named Lenis Northmoore

She's reached her golden years

 

and she needs help downsizing
from a 19th century home

 

to a much smaller home in
historic Williamsburg Virginia.

 

I lived near there my whole life
and raised my kids there,

and I can tell you
she's going to love it!

Because she's a
retired art historian

who is definitely gonna
appreciate the grandeur in the
history of Williamsburg.

 

With its surviving colonial
structures and homes from the
18th century,

 

Williamsburg is a
living history museum.

 

And supposedly,
from all her world travels,

 

Lenis has enough artifacts and
objects in her closets and
drawers

 

to make her own Museum.

 

Moving can be really
overwhelming and stressful

so I'm gonna try to
make it easier for her

and find a few of the items that
have gone missing in her home
over the years.

 

Lenis: Oh, Matt! You found us.

 

Mat: This is amazing.
It's good to finally meet you.

Lenis: Oh, I know!
Matt: Take a hug.

 

Good to see you.

 

You told me the house was nice,
I did not expect this.

 

I mean it's grand.
How old is it?

 

Lenis: Well it's a couple
hundred years old at least.

Matt: Wow!
Lenis: Late 18th century.

 

And the shutters are original.

Matt: Original shutters.
Lenis: Yeah.

 

Matt: You have all this land.

 

Lenis: Well, all this land
is now State Park.

 

It used to be the biggest farm,
and this end of town 220 acres.

Matt: And what did they farm?

Lenis: Dairy.
Matt: Dairy.

 

Lenis: I raised my family here
for over 30 years.

 

Two children, Angelica
and Jonathan.

 

So there are lots of memories
in this house.

 

Matt: All right well this
is stunning on its own

 

so I'm kind of excited
to see what's inside.

Lenis: Well, come on, let's
go in. Matt: Let's do it.

 

Lenis: Come on in.
Matt: Wow! This is awesome!

 

Lenis: Oh! Thanks.
Matt: This is huge!

 

Lenis: It's got high ceilings.
Matt: This is really really
beautiful.

- And is like a museum.
Lenis: This is my museum.

 

Matt: We have a pretty
firm time-line here,

Lenis has to be out of
the house in three days

because she has a signed
contract and the new family is
ready to move in.

 

So I've really got a tour
the entire property

to make sure I can actually
finish this job for her.

 

Lenis: Let's start
with the drawing room.

Matt: Okay.

 

What is a formal drawing room?

 

Lenis: Well it's a place to go
after dinner and have a drink,
you know.

 

Matt: All right, so a lot of
stuff I'm looking around in it

it's all really nice
good collections.

 

Have you acquired all of this
or is in the family or anything?

 

Lenis: Some of its family
and other things I've acquired.

Matt: I'm specifically
looking at the clock

Lenis: Oh! That is a family
piece that came down in my
family.

 

Matt: I mean you walk on the
room and it just grabs you.

Lenis: Yes.
Matt: It's stunning.

Lenis: One of my great-great
grandfather's came down to
Boston

 

and bought the clock and a sofa
and some other pieces of
furniture.

This is all we have left though.

 

Matt: So the rest of the house
is empty. Lenis: Oh! No.
[Laughs]

- No, no.
Matt: No.

 

- This door.
Lenis: Oh, yes!

It in a few minutes
it'll will be chiming.

- Let's move on. Matt: Okay.

 

- It's your house, I wanna see
it. Lenis: Lot more to see, come
on.

 

This is the yellow room.

 

Matt: Is a dining room,
formal dining room?

Lenis: Yeah.

Matt: All right, see a lot
of boxes. Lenis: Oh, yeah.

Matt: So it looks like you
are starting to downsize.

Lenis: This, this, this is
nothing, Matt, let me tell you.

Matt: Stuff everywhere.
Lenis. Stuff everywhere

that I just don't
know what to do with.

Matt: Well, you've got
30 years of life.

Lenis: Well, yeah!
Come on let's go to the kitchen.

 

Matt: Room after room is just
filled with extravagant stuff.

There's like 20 rooms in this
house and I've only seen two

that could have already billed
the average person's home.

 

There are literally thousands
of pieces of fine art,

 

porcelain figurines, furniture,
paintings, wall ornaments, you
name it!

 

A house this size would normally
take seven or eight days to pack
up

 

but Lenis has got to be out in
three so we are really up
against the clock.

 

Lenis: Here's the kitchen.

 

Matt: Eh... This thing
right here is massive.

Lenis: It is... It's a
real Moby-dick. [Laughs]

 

Matt: Lenis's collection
is larger than life.

 

She not only appreciates
grandeur in style, she lives it.

 

Lenis: Well it's six feet by
eight feet, that's a nice size
for a picture.

 

It's kind of a typical painting
of the Hudson River School,

and I'm hoping
it's by one of the Masters.

 

Matt: The size and scale
of this painting alone

makes me really excited
about its value.

 

I really hope for Lenis's is
sake that this will be a
windfall for her.

 

Well I've got a buddy that's
gonna come look at it for me.

- He's one of the experts.
Lenis: Oh! I'd love to--

I'd love to hear what he has
to say, that's very exciting.

 

Matt: I see a lot of stuff
this is living up to the hip.

Lenis: [Laughs]
Matt: I love it.

All right, let's sit down. It
seems there's some tea ready for
us.

Lenis: Yeah, yes. Matt: Let's
have tea and let's discuss

- what are we going to do.
Lenis: Let's have tea.

Matt: Okay, so we're downsizing
from... How many square feet is
this house?

 

Lenis: Oh, just about 6,000
square feet. [Laughs]

Matt: 6,000 square feet,

- 20, almost 20 rooms.
Lenis: Yes.

 

Matt: Eh, how big is a house
you're gonna move into?

 

Lenis: Its 2,600 square feet,

which is not bad but it's
you know, less than half.

 

Matt: That's really downsizing.
Lenis: That is downsizing, yeah.

 

Moving to Williamsburg Virginia,
which is a very beautiful place.

Matt: Beautiful town, very
historic. Lenis: Yeah.

 

Matt: Why did you
choose Williamsburg?

Lenis: Well, my daughter works
nearby, in a New York town.

 

And she's got two
beautiful children.

Matt: So grandchildren,
it comes down to grandchildren.

Lenis: It always comes down
to grandchildren for everyone.

Matt: Sometimes it is
that simple. Lenis: Yeah.

 

Matt: So as we spoke
on the phone,

a part of our process is I
asked you to create a list,

 

a legacy list of items
that you want us to find

 

that are really emotionally
significant to you.

 

So what is that list?

 

Lenis: Well, you know,
that was a hard list to make.

We bought a Chinese jade

 

- scepter head.
Matt: Okay.

 

Lenis: Which is a very unusual
sort of thing.

 

I think it might be from
the imperial court in China

and so it's quite special.

 

Matt: I'm not looking for jade
Chinese scepter heads every
single day,

 

eh, but I have a feeling I'll
know what it is when I see it.

 

Lenis: And then I have
an American flag...

 

Early, well I don't
know how early.

And it's really big,

and I haven't seen that for a
while, I'm not sure where it is.

Matt: I know.
Lenis: It's a sort of hand-sewn.

It's really a, a
beautiful thing.

 

- So that--
Matt: So it's not just a flag.

Lenis: It's not just a flag.
Matt: Yeah, okay.

Lenis: It's not just a flag.

 

My dad served in the Army
in World War Two.

 

He was in the South Pacific
on New Guinea.

 

He found a prow a carved prow
on the beach.

 

Matt: Is the part that goes
on the front the--

Lenis: The front end that goes
on the front of a big dugout
canoe.

 

And he brought that
back with him.

 

Matt: Yeah, I mean that's
what makes this job so cool,

I'm able to find that one thing

that will reconnect them
with their loved one.

 

Lenis: Well, another
thing on my list,

 

is a little model railroad car

 

that my mother's father made
for her when she was a child.

 

He was a conductor
on the L & N railroad

 

that ran between
Nashville and Louisville.

 

I love my papa very very much

but I'm not sure what
I've done it with.

 

Matt: Family, family, family is
coming up in your legacy list.

- It's not as much the
valuable stuff. Lenis: Right.

Matt: Is not the financial
stuff. Lenis: Right.

Matt: My goal is for you
to celebrate these items.

Lenis: Yes, to celebrate them.

Matt: I'm gonna go through the
house as we go, and bring my
team in.

 

Hopefully I'll find
most everything on your list

so I appreciate you entrusting
us to go through this.

Lenis: Well, thank you so much.
And I'm just very excited to--

 

Matt: Well, we get excited
there, let me get through first.
[Laughs]

 

this is a big big house full of
rare and unique collectibles

 

that is gonna be a huge
challenge to pack up in three
days.

 

So I need to bring in
my team of specialists

to help me find the
items on her list

 

but I also need to identify and
assess the other items we'll
find in the house

 

that'll show up
around every corner.

 

Mike, Mike is our general
household in pop culture wizard.

 

When it comes to textiles, toys,
kitchen wares, you name it, he's
my guy.

 

He also happens to be a cat
lover a ridiculously obsessed
cat lover.

 

Avi, he's a proud graduate
and football hero

from VMI, Virginia
Military Institute,

 

and now on our team he's our
guru of religious and military
artifacts.

 

And then there's Jamie,

 

she actually lived on a remote
Caribbean island for years

where she met her husband,

and now she's our authority on
fashion fabric and photography.

 

All right, what do
you guys think?

 

Jamie: I mean it's beautiful.
Avi: It's massive.

Matt: It's massive, is 6,000
square feet there's 20 rooms in
here

we're actually on top
of a State park.

I mean this this it
is just expansive

and it is very symbolic
of the client.

 

She is just everything
that's fabulous.

 

My biggest challenge is that
I walk through the house

 

I'm like looking for one item
and like: "Oh! What's that? Oh!
What's this?"

It's like a golden squirrel
everywhere. [Laughs]

Everywhere I pop around,
I keep something nice.

 

So we got to stay focused the
need is very real here, right?

This family, they are just
overwhelmed by stuff, right?

 

So yes, we want to go through
and find all the legacy list,

 

but even more importantly we
want to help them drop their
anxiety

and just really help them
get this house cleared

so they can move on
to their next phase of life.

We're not gonna we find until we
get in there, so let's get
started.

- Let's do it!
Team: Let's go!

 

Matt: There are three
floors in this house

with hidden rooms, secret
staircases and servants quarters

chocked full of stuff
quiet over 30 plus years.

 

Our job is gonna have to
sift through all of it

to find Lenis's
legacy list items

 

and pack up the
house for her move.

Avi: Oh, men! This
an amazing house.

 

Matt: Classic attic.

 

Mike: This is the first attic
we've been in where we can both
stand up right.

Avi: Yeah, I don't have
that problem so much.

Matt: Our process with
the house this big

in a limited time
of only three days

 

is to split up the teams
on each floor and just go.

Mike: Okay.
Avi: Start over here.

 

Jamie: It's a cool trunk.
Matt: It's an awesome trunk.

- It's a flat trunk, so it's
not-- Jamie: It says "Holland
America wine."

 

Matt: This would be
a steamer trunk.

 

Jamie: Wow! Matt: [Cough]
It's a standing one.

 

[Murmur]

 

Matt: This is really
just a suitcase.

 

Jamie: I would need like eight
of these for a trip.

Matt: I mean you had to be
really rich to have a suitcase
like this

and you had your
drawers already.

 

What is that for?

 

- Is that a-- Jamie: It's
for, is that a hat box?

 

Matt: That is a hat box.

 

Jamie: I think it's really cool

and part of me kind of wishes
that this is how we still
traveled.

 

It would make it feel a
little bit more special

than being crammed into
a tiny little airplane

 

with a roller board that's way
too small for stuff I wanna take
with me.

Matt: [Laughs] Yeah, this is,
this is not going in the
overhead.

Jamie: No.
Matt: Definitely.

 

The thing about attics is they
are a treasure trove for
history.

People throw the stuff up in the
attic and they forget about it
for years.

 

Mike: Avi!

 

- Here. Avi: Looks like
a coffee tin to me.

 

Mike: What they
would've used this for

was in the general
store or in a restaurant,

 

they would have this to store
the dry goods like the coffee or
tea,

 

and you'd come up and say:

 

"I'd like to buy a pound of tea,
please." Or a pound of coffee

 

and they'd measure it out,
put it in a bag and off you go.

 

So these were really
common back up

until manufacturing process has
changed and packaging changed.

 

Avi: And I noticed the Swain
Earl which is a name I'm pretty
familiar with

 

regards to tea and
coffee production.

Mike: Oh! Yeah? Avi: Actually
one of the pioneers, yeah.

 

It's actually a Boston
company and this is...

a picture of the Boston Harbor.

 

Jamie: Hey I found something
that looks really old.

Matt: It is.
Jamie: But also very cool.

Matt: These are hoops
for a hoop skirt.

 

- And here is the dress. Jamie:
They start small and they get--

Matt: At the top,
and the bottom ones get bigger.

Jamie: Right, the whole reason
that they started wearing hoop
skirts

is to keep the lady's legs cool

 

because they had to wear
multiple layers of clothing.

 

So it kept the fabric
away from their legs.

 

Narrator: The hoopskirt was an
elaborate XIX century
undergarment

worn by women of all social
classes and ethnicities.

 

In fact both First Lady
Mary Todd Lincoln

 

and her dressmaker
Elizabeth Hobbes Keckley

 

were huge fans of hoop skirts

which could be worn day or night
for work or play.

 

Slightly more comfortable than
their XVI and XVII century
predecessors

 

the hoop skirt or crinoline was
a clothing contraption made of
steel.

 

Steel rods were formed into
wired circles or springs

in an elaborate process
then wound with yarn

and suspended by tapes
from the woman's waist,

in descending diameters
from smallest to largest.

 

While the earlier panty
was quite expensive

 

the XIX century crinoline
was fairly affordable

 

costing only between three
to four cents a spring.

 

In 1868 Boston, a 20 spring
crinoline was a mere 62 cents.

 

But there was a much higher
cost to this fashion trend

 

because, shockingly, thousands
of women died while wearing them

 

as they caught on fire got,
caught in machinery,

 

carriage wheels, and
even gusts of wind.

 

And although hoop skirts
were worn for modesty sake

 

the original farthingale was
actually invented in 1400 Spain

 

to enable Joan of Portugal
queen consort of Castile

and second wife of
King Henry the fourth

 

to hide her multiple
illegitimate pregnancies in
court.

 

As World War One
dawned on America

 

and rationing of all materials
including fabric and steel
became the norm

 

the hoopskirt was replaced

by the narrower and more
form-fitting silhouettes

that eventually made their
way into the Roaring Twenties.

 

Although the hoop skirt is now
mostly a memory of a bygone era

 

today women do occasionally
make a play for the past

wearing them under extravagant
wedding dresses, ball gowns and
costumes.

 

Jamie: That's a tiny
little rib cage.

Matt: This person was tiny!

Jamie: Yeah! Well having worked
in in fashion for quite some
time

I can tell you that they do not
make dresses like this anymore.

 

You can tell this was
made to order essentially.

 

Matt: I tend to float
between my 30s, 32, 34, and 36s

and my pants I don't think you
could do that back in the day.

 

Because was too expensive
to have another pair of pants.

Jamie: They also weren't eating

 

- all the processed foods...
Matt: Fear enough.

 

Jamie: That some of us eat.

Matt: Thank God I was born
when I was born.

 

Avi: Mike, I think
I've got something.

 

Mike: Hey, Matt!
Avi: Matt!

Matt, I found something
in the Attic.

 

Matt: What do you got?

 

Here it is, the New
Guinea prowl, man!

 

Man...

 

Mike: She's gonna
be stoked, man.

Matt: Story lines up for you.

 

Oh, yeah, the age
of it, the where.

 

What's cool about
this is, you know,

lots of guys come back from the
one they bring back some type of
souvenir

 

but like her dad even in the
middle of war bound art.

 

This speaks to who she is.

I mean she was taught from her
dad she was taught for my mom

 

and they found the
beauty in everything.

 

This is a huge find because
it's the first item on the list

and it gets the team excited but
we've still got a few more items
to find

and we don't have
a lot of time to do it.

[Music]

 

It's day two of three we need to
find the other things on Lenis's
Legacy List

but we also have to identify,
inventory and pack up

the thousands of items in this
house to prepare her for move.

 

And we only have today
and tomorrow to get it all done.

 

We're in the library clearly,
we got books everywhere.

 

This is the room she lives in.

 

This is the most important room
in the house.

 

This is the space she spent the
most time on in the entire
house,

this little couch right here,
and this is her square,

 

this is where she
spends most the time.

- I call it a cockpit.
Avi: Cockpit.

Will find her money her glasses,

the things that matter most
will all be right in here.

 

You know, everybody has
a cockpit in their house.

It's where you live and spend
most of your time.

 

For me it's on my couch,

everything I need, my remote
controls, my cell phone, my
food,

it's all right around me.

So it's really easy for us
to lose these special items

 

when all we do is spend the
majority of our time in this
very small area.

 

- You've got these smokers.
Avi: Very cool.

Matt: A lot of her
old teapots are nice

 

and I know those are gonna
go with her to her new house

so the teapots I know we can,
the plates, we can automatically
pack.

 

Mike: Oh, what do you got there?

Jamie: I think we might
have found the blueprints.

 

Matt: The books we've
really got to go through

 

Mike: I'd say so!

 

Avi: This looks interesting.

[Music]

 

- Matt!
Matt: Yeah?

Avi: I think I found
something, man.

 

That that jade piece
you were talking about.

 

What do you think?

 

Matt: That is definitely jade.

 

Avi: Oh, man!

 

Matt: "Purchase from Governor
John Geelong, Estate 1958.

 

- Toft of old Jade."
Avi: Badass, man.

Matt: This is
what she was looking for, dude.

- This is a really nice piece of
jade. Avi: Amazing piece... Wow.

 

Matt: I've never seen
anything like this before.

I keep saying that
every room in this house.

This is insane!

I mean how many times do you
find something in the house

that was given to an emperor.

 

I always have to turn it over
to make sure

there's not like residue
from a price tag. [Laughs]

Cos' you get super
exciting you're like:

"Oh my god! This is it!
This is the thing!"

And you go like:
"Oh, man, she got it at TJ MAX".

 

Another item off the list.

 

Narrator: The Ruyi
is a Chinese ceremonial scepter

symbolizing power
and good fortune.

 

Ruyi became luxurious symbols
of wealth and political power

throughout the many
Chinese dynasties

 

as well as ornaments of the word
"ruyi" means satisfied or
pleasing.

 

During the Han Dynasty Emperor's
and Nobles would hold ruyi while
talking

 

so it became known as a
"Tan Bing" or talking baton.

 

During the Ming and
Qing dynasties

 

it was given as a gift to
Emperor's during important court
celebrations

such as weddings and birthdays.

 

The origin of the ruyi
has baffled anthropologists.

 

One theory is that they
originated as back scratches

for the powerful in early China.

 

The head of Lenis's ruyi
was carved from jade

and repurposed as a lid
of a decorative box.

 

The carp center image
signifies longevity in Chinese.

 

The pattern around the
outer edge of the ruyi

is known as "huí wén" or
"meander", representing cycles
and rebirth.

 

Jade has been treasured
in China for centuries

 

and is regarded as one of its
most valuable and precious gems.

 

Known as the Stone of Heaven

jade was used as a medium to
connect heaven and earth in
rituals

and also ward off evil, there
is a Chinese proverb that says:

 

"Gold has a price
Jade is priceless."

[Music]

 

Avi: Hey, Matt. Matt: Yeah.

 

Avi: I think I found something
pretty interesting here.

 

Matt: Do you know what is it?
Avi: I'm not quite sure.

Matt: I know exactly what it is,
it's a silk iron.

 

This is a really
nice one, actually.

Coal that are been burning
you'd put it in the top

and it would heat
this up very slowly

 

and it's a super smooth bottom,

so feel about that, even better
went there super smooth bottom.

 

And so as it slowly heated up,

 

you would rub it up
and against the silk.

 

There's a 200 year old iron.

 

Strictly for silk.

 

Avi: Amazing. Matt: This
is really really cool.

So like a kimono
or a super high-end dress

the technology is still
completely valid, would work
today.

 

We could literally get some
coal out of the fireplace

 

and go iron
some silk shirt today with this.

 

Avi: Is this a Asian technique
or? Matt: Yeah, is from China.

This is, I mean, these are
great, Chinese local markets is
hot

 

and these will sell and bottom
line what makes something
valuable

there's not a lot of them and
these are collectible and
shippable

people forget that.

 

I can sell this anywhere
in the world online.

[Music]

 

Jamie: Hey, What do you
think's in this chest?

 

Mike: There's got to be
something good in here.

- I love the cat pillow.
Jamie: [Laughs] I know you do.

Mike: These are
kind of neat baskets too.

 

Jamie: Oh!
Mike: Oh, man.

We better get Matt in here.

 

Jamie: Hey, Matt!

 

Matt: It's good in bad
when I hear my name on a job.

Either means we found something
really special for the client

 

or I'm gonna be spending money
because we broke something.

 

Boom!

 

Mike: Very careful.
Matt: Don't touch the ground.

 

Oh my God, look at
this, linen flag.

 

Do you know what's so cool
about a linen flag?

 

Jamie: No. Matt: You can't
fly it after Labor Day.

 

[Laughs]

Mike: Once we count the stars
we can date it.

 

And then hopefully find out
some more information about it.

Jamie: Oh, that's how they tell.

Mike: Aha, because as the
States were added to the Union

they added another star.
Oh, look at this.

Matt: Two, three, four,
five, six, seven...

 

One, two, three, four...

 

Mike: So it's like the top
and the bottom have, eh...

 

Matt: So one, two, three...
That's 28. Mike: 28.

 

Both: Plus 16...

 

Matt: 28 plus 16.

 

Mike: Oh, okay... yeah.
Matt: Is, what?

 

Jamie: Eh, did both
of y'all fail math?

 

- And history? Matt: Just,
just history on my hand.

 

Oh, yeah, there's 44.

Jamie: So this predates six
States being added to our flag.

 

Now, what six States are they?

 

Mike: I'm gonna say Alaska and
Hawaii. Jamie: That's two.

Mike: Yeah.
Jamie: Out of six, Matt?

 

Matt: Eh... honestly
I'm stumped.

I've never found a flag
with 44 stars on it.

- And, eh...
Jamie: And Google?

Matt: Yeah. [Laughs]

We have to get back to this, I
mean this is what's cool about
Legacy List,

you find something that's
actual living history.

 

Narrator: And living
history it is

 

because the states of the Union
was constantly changing

 

as more and more States
continued to be added.

 

Lenis's linen flag

dates from somewhere between
1891 when Wyoming was the 44th
State

and 1896 when Utah
became the 45th State.

 

After Utah was added
next came Oklahoma,

 

New Mexico, Arizona,
Alaska, and finally Hawaii.

 

And a little-known facts
about 1890s Wyoming

which was the last
star of Lenis's flag,

it was the first state
to allow women to vote

 

but lest you think this was just
a progressive move for equality

many claim this was
done to lure women there

 

who were outnumbered two to one
by men at the time.

 

The American flag
first became official in 1777

when the Continental
Congress called for

 

"The flag to be made of 13
stripes of red and white

 

with 13 stars white
in a blue field

 

representing a new
constellation."

 

Anecdotal history says that
Betsy Ross convinced George
Washington

to make the Stars five-pointed
instead of the six points he
requested

 

so they would be easy for her
to cut and sew.

 

Wool, linen and silk became
the primary flag making fabrics

with linen being the most
inexpensive and homespun.

 

The American flag has had
many incarnations over time.

At one point even having
15 stars and stripes in 1795

and many changes for grandeur
sake such as President Taft
order in 1912,

that a single point of every
star must always be pointing
upward to the heavens

 

And our forefathers would
be surprised to know

 

that today these
stars and stripes

literally do shine
upward among the stars

flying even in space with six
U.S. flags mounted on the moon.

[Music]

 

Matt: All right, we should
kind of pause for a minute

and really kind of rather
than what we're holding here.

 

This is a 130 year old flag.

 

It dates back to
about 1890, 1891.

 

The fact that six States
still didn't exist

 

when this flag was made
is pretty amazing.

 

So I think about the people who
made this who hand-stitched
this.

 

Any flag we want to show
the proper respect,

 

but we really want to do this
in the right care, I mean...

 

This is living history this
is what we're here to find.

 

And it was something
that was on her Legacy List.

 

Avi, you are an expert
on military religious,

how should we fold
this properly?

 

Avi: Yeah, this size flag I
think for me they're two folds,

so, Mike, just hold your end up,
we want to make sure it doesn't
touch the ground

 

So we're gonna fold it to
the top, there you go Mike.

All right, so we're gonna
bring your stars up.

 

Got to be very careful
because this material

 

is not typical of
our current Flags.

This linen is a very delicate.

I'm gonna do thirteen folds
representing the thirteen
colonies.

 

Matt: I mean what is pretty
on a sight like this

it's hard not to think about
what was this place like in 1890

 

Mike: And think about who
fought for. Matt: Yeah!

 

Mike: This country to get to
this point. Matt: Yeah! Oh,
yeah.

 

Matt: We definitely forget
what people went through

 

just to get to 44 States.

 

Avi: This is amazing to behold
in this way right now.

 

Mike: I've got chills.

 

Matt: That's because it's cold.

 

Matt: All right, let's get
inside to find other items.

 

Team: Let's do it.
Awesome, let's do it.

[Music]

 

Avi: Hey, what do you got?

 

Jamie: Oh, my gosh! I have
got so many amazing photos.

 

This is literally a time
capsule of this family's life.

 

I mean some of these photos have
to be like over a hundred years
old

 

and like a lot of them have
stuff written on the back.

Avi: It's cool that
she's labeled everything.

 

There's so many families
we find they don't do that.

 

Matt: Hey, Mike, come here help
me clean all this stuff off.

[Music]

 

Oh yeah, this is literally a
treasure chest we're looking at
here.

- This is amazing.
Mike: Oh my gosh!

 

There could be some really
special fans in here, Matt.

- Look at that.
Matt: Wow!

Mike: Maybe we should do is
just kind of gather them up

and get them downstairs
where we can spread them out.

- and take it better look.
Matt: Okay, right, let's do it.

 

All right, we got our fans.

 

What am I looking at here?

Mike: There's Asian fans,
there's French fans and
everything in between.

I mean you're lucky if you find
one of these fans and a house
let alone 15.

Matt: All I know about fans
is that they keep cool.

Mike: Well that is
their chief purpose.

 

But besides that they were
used for religious services,

 

they were used to shield
yourself from the rain,

 

they were used as dance cards.

 

Matt: Some would walk
around like this.

 

Mike: Not with
that one, but yes.

Matt: All right, I'm
ready to dance.

 

- Let's do this.
[Laughs]

Matt: I'm the guy.

 

Mike: We've got a collection
of Asian fans.

 

This one here,
a fan of a thousand faces.

 

This is just a depiction
of daily life

- And it's telling stories.
Matt: Telling stories.

 

Mike: A couple of their Asian
fans right here hand-painted

 

on peacock feathers.

 

Most of these are from the 1800s

 

and actually believe this
fan is from the late 1700s.

Matt: So that's 300 years old.
Mike: Yeah.

It's a French fan, paper,
I believe ivory inlay in here.

 

It's actually depicting the
first manned hot air balloon
flight.

 

Montgolfier is the term
for hot air balloon in France

Named after the brothers that
invented the hot air balloon.

This was a souvenir, if you
want to think of it that way.

Matt: Okay... Because if you
could afford to travel 300 years
ago

 

- you were bragging about it.
Mike: Yeah.

 

Matt: Any cash in this?
Mike: Oh, for sure.

Some of these fans
are worth hundreds of dollars.

 

Matt: Lenis continues to be
a fascinating woman, man.

 

I think she's just got
a bunch of stuff in drawers

 

and there's a couple grand
on this table.

 

Mike: Could be

 

Jamie: Oh, my gosh!

 

This photo is the house
obviously, right?

 

And I think this may be
the original owner of the house.

 

And we actually found, I think,
what is this exact dress

as well as the hoop skirt.

 

Avi: It's unbelievable.

Jamie: I cannot wait
to show this to them.

Avi: She's gonna love that.

Jamie: This is probably my
favorite part about doing these
projects.

Is really getting to look
through the family history

Avi: You learn so much about
people and their families and
their legacy.

 

Jamie: Oh, this is so cool.
What is that, metal?

 

Avi: Yeah, it feels like tin.
Jamie: Is there anything on the
back?

 

Avi: Nothing on the back.

 

But I'm sure she'd love to
have it, what do you think?

Jamie: I think so too.

 

Matt: If there's one
thing for certain

is the client wants to know
that everything is going well.

So they're always gonna
stop by at some point.

 

Lenis: Oh! Take a look!
Avi: How are you?

 

Lenis: Oh my gosh! Look in here.

 

- Matt!
Matt: Hello, hello!

Lenis: Hi!
Matt: How are you?

Lenis: You've been
busy, I feel proud.

Matt: We've been very busy.
Good to see you, how are you?

 

Lenis: Oh, Matt,
this is my daughter, Angelica.

Matt: Angelica, nice to meet
you. Angelica: Nice to meet you.

Matt: Very good to meet you.

Moving is such a big deal!

It'’’s pretty common for the
family members to come along as
well

just to see how
everything's going.

Lenis: Well, we just happen
to be in the neighborhood.

Matt: [Laughs] You just happen
to be-- Lenis: Happen to be in
the neighborhood.

 

So I thought we'd kind of check
up on you and see what's...

 

Matt: Are you feeling
little nervous maybe?

Lenis: A little nervous.
Matt: Okay.

 

You got a bunch of people in
your house going through your
stuff...

- Of 30 years. [Laughs]
Lenis: Right.

Matt: So we've found
a lot of great stuff.

 

Lenis: Oh, well, that's
really exciting.

Matt: You have lived
in amazing life

 

and we're finding history
of it all over the place.

 

Angelica: You know Matt, the
reason why I wanted to come
along tonight

was because there are a couple
of things that I would like you
to find.

That maybe my mom hadn't
mentioned before in previous
conversations.

 

My grandmother passed on to
my mother her doll collection.

 

And I just have memories as a
child of her showing them to me

and I want to be able to do that
with my daughters.

 

Matt: Five generation dolls.
Angelica: Yes.

 

Mat: Let me see we do and
hopefully I'll find everything
you guys want.

Angelica: Right, great to meet
you Matt. Matt: Really good to
meet you too.

You know, that's what's so great
about the legacy list

is helping people connect their
memories with these found items.

 

So I'm happy to add
Angelica's item to this list

 

but the challenges is I've
only got tomorrow to find it.

 

So I'm helping a
family downsize.

They have to decide maybe what
25% of the items they're gonna
take with them.

 

And it's important to know,
sometimes, what the financial
value is

before they can make the actual
physical decision on what's
going to go.

 

So I called in my good
friend Lex Reeves

who is the top expert in the
field of fine art and
antiquities.

 

All right I want to start over
at my favorite piece.

- Over here.
Lex: Okay, all right.

 

Let's take a look.

 

It's it's an American clock
its Roxbury School for sure.

Matt: Which means, what?

 

Lex: Well Roxbury Massachusetts
was an area

where a lot of clock makers of
the 18th and early 19th century
worked.

Matt: She had family in
Boston, 1800s. Lex: Okay.

 

Matt: And this was custom made
for someone in her family.

Lex: In her family, okay.
Well that makes sense,

 

when these clocks were made
it was kind of like a car.

 

You could pick out certain
qualities of the lock.

It could be a 30-day clock,

it could be an eight-day clock,
this is a 30-day clock.

 

Matt: It's funny
what you're saying is right,

it whatever you ordered
they put on this inside board.

 

Lex: It actually right here, if
you look closely it says S.
Willard,

 

and Simon is one of the
preeminent most important

late 18th early 19th century
Roxbury makers.

Simon Willard was actually
friends with Thomas Jefferson.

 

Willard ended up doing
clocks at UVA capital...

 

So he's really an
important clock maker.

 

Matt: Now, is this
a Simon Willard?

 

Lex: Usually would be on the
clock face, it would say Simon
Willard Roxbury.

 

But Willard worked on
other people's clocks,

and when a clock was worked on,

the clock maker would put
his name on the inside,

- so that's a possibility.
Matt: Okay.

 

Lex: It's a nice clock.

 

Matt: Now, big question,
what's it worth?

 

Lex: I would conservatively
say somewhere in the...

 

- $4,500 range.
Matt: Okay.

Lex: We're between 4000
and 5000. Matt: Okay.

 

Matt: All right, I got one other
cool item over here I want you
to see.

 

Lex: For looking at a "Famille
verte", which means green family
in French.

And that was a term that was
given obviously much later by
collectors.

Matt: Yeah,
this doesn't look French to me.

Lex: It is not.
Matt: Okay.

Lex: It's in fact Chinese and
it's in the Kangxi style or
period.

 

That is the Kangxi mark,
Kangxi was the emperor.

All these are symbols of
Chinese, prosperity the fishes,

for wealth the frog,
that's protection,

and the Dragons are for
power and for prosperity.

I think this is actually a 19th
century version of an 18th
century Kangxi period

so I think it's a
hundred years later.

 

And if you look
closely right here,

this is where it's been
restored. It's been broken.

 

Matt: So let me tell you
the story she told me.

Lex: Okay.

 

Matt. She bought it right after
college at a flea market in
Paris.

Lex: Okay.
Matt: For one dollar.

 

Lex: Seriously?
Matt: Seriously.

She said it was broken
into three pieces.

Lex: Okay. Matt: And she
carried it in her backpack

 

back to America. It adds up
to everything you just said?

Lex: Eh, in the 60s just the
fact that you paid a dollar,

I mean it should have been
much more expensive than that.

So it's a find even
as it was then.

 

I would say, at an auction
something like this could
bring...

 

1,500 to 2,000 dollars, even
in this particular condition.

 

- So, a dollar find to that--
Matt: Sure, right.

Lex: She has a great eye,
from everything that I'm seeing.

 

She's got a wonderful eye.

 

Matt: So, I think it's obvious
what we're looking at here.

 

Lex: Wow, that's,
that's monumental.

Matt: Finally in the kitchen,

the one big item I'm hopeful
that will make Lenis a lot of
money.

 

Lex: What did the owner
have to say about it?

 

Matt: She said it was a big
painting. Lex: Okay. [Laughs]

 

Matt: She's not sure what it is,
she thinks it's a Bierstadt.

 

Lex: Okay, Albert Bierstadt.

 

Well, Albert Bierstadt is an
artists that I know really well.

 

He was a German American and was
known for scenes of the American
West.

 

Matt: Fingers crossed this items
gonna make her big big bucks.

Lex: He would paint
monumental pictures like this

 

and he would actually
charge a fee

 

for people to come in and
look at these paintings.

It was a way of showing the West
before people could go out west.

 

Right away I can tell you

 

confidently

 

unequivocally

 

it's not an Albert Bierstadt.

 

Mat: How do you know that?

Lex: Bierstadt was a proponent
of the Dusseldorf school

 

and artists that came out of
that school were very highly
detailed painters.

 

So when they painted a
tree you saw each leaf,

 

you even saw each
little piece of bark.

 

And if you look at this picture,

 

it's very painterly,
it's not highly detailed.

 

Bierstadt would have actually
spent time on that bird

where you could see its eyeballs

and you'd be able to see
the plumage and everything else.

 

But it's unfortunately
not an Albert Bierstadt.

 

Matt: How much
would this painting go for?

Lex: If this were a Bierstadt,
you're looking at if it were an
American scene,

 

30 million dollars or
something crazy in this market.

 

Of this size, I think
you can expect it to bring

 

two thousand to five
thousand, might be.

 

Matt: That's a bummer, man,
twenty-five hundred versus 30
million

there's a little
difference there.

 

Sometimes big is just big.

[Music]

 

I found so much stuff
in the Attics...

You find old clothes,
you find old love letters,

you find lots of secrets,
you name it we find it.

 

You find every...

 

type of neck brace
ever made for travel.

 

This is why people
get stuck from moving

because they have rooms and
rooms and rooms of all the
stuff.

Jamie: Yeah, you put it up here
and then you don't--

Matt: You don't think about it.
Jamie: You don't think about it.

 

Costume jewelry.
Matt: Costume jewelry to sell.

 

What she would call
costume jewelry...

 

Eh, is not what you and I
would call costume jewelry.

 

Jamie: Right.
Matt: Junk from Miss Lenis

is very nice for you and I.

 

There it is, holy cow!
Jamie: Oh, wow!

 

Matt: All right this--
Jamie: This is a train car.

 

Matt: I'm pretty sure this's the
traincar it was looking for a L
& N Car.

 

Jamie: L & N.
Matt: There is L & N.

 

Her grandfather worked on the
line which is a Louisville and
Nashville line

and we'll just go to
Louisville Nashville,

and that's the actual line
that he worked on.

[Music]

 

Narrator: Like many rapidly
expanding American cities of the
1800s

 

Louisville, Kentucky
and Nashville, Tennessee

 

found themselves in desperate
need of better transportation

 

so between 1850 and 1851
charters were granted creating
the L & N railroad.

 

Costing three million
dollars to construct,

 

the L & N made its
first run in 1859

of a 187 miles from Louisville
all the way to Nashville.

 

By the Civil War the L & N
railroad expanded to 269 miles
of track

 

and was actually caught in the
middle between the Union and the
Confederacy

 

pressed into service
at various times by both armies

the L & N ultimately benefited
profiting from northern troop
polish contracts

that were paid in
Union greenbacks

rather than the depreciating
Confederate dollars.

 

After the war the L & N thrived
in both passenger and freight
transport

 

becoming one of Louisville's
largest employers

with more than 10,000
men and women in the 1930s.

 

One of the most intriguing Train
Robbery sagas of the late 1800s

centered around the L & N,
the legend of Railroad Bill,

who allegedly robbed the trains
distributing the loot among the
poor

was notorious for abating
capture more than a dozen times.

 

By the summer of 1895 reward for
his capture reached 1250
dollars,

and shortly thereafter
he was shot and killed.

 

The L & N was one of the biggest
success stories in American
business history,

 

operating through multiple Wars
and under one name for 132
years.

 

Old and reliable, as the L & N
railroad came to be called,

 

road to over 6,000
miles of track

and became a rich source
of American railroad history.

[Train horn]

 

Matt: Really good grassman ship.

These doors actually do work.

 

Jamie: Is something in there?
Matt: And there was a key in
there.

 

Jamie: I wonder what is that to?

 

Matt: This is an actual key
that's the actual railroad that
he worked

 

and he left it for her inside
the toy railroad, how cool is
that!

Jamie: Do you think she
remembers that that's in there?

Matt: She did not ask me for
this she only asked me to find
this.

I don't know if she even knows
this is in here.

 

This was the last item
on Lenis's Legacy List.

I know she's gonna be
really excited that we found it.

 

But there's still one item left
that Angelica added to the list

and we're quickly approaching
the end of that three-day
deadline.

 

Jamie: I'm interested in what
is in these drawers.

 

Mike: In a way they're
kind of little time capsules.

Jamie: Yeah.

 

Looks like this was kind
of used as their catch-all.

 

Looks like old mail.

 

Oh, that's a cool--Wow!

 

Look at these,
a drawer full of old dolls.

Mike: Wow! Just be real careful
when you pull them out.

 

We don't know what kind
of shape they're in

so just kind of hold them just
like you might a real baby.

Jamie: Like a real baby.

 

Angelica was hoping
to have them found

so she could share
them with her children.

 

Oh, this one's eyes just opened!

 

Mike: Yeah, it's a
sleepy eyed doll.

As you tilt her head back and
and lift her up rise open and
shut,

it's called sleepy eyes.

 

Jamie: I don't really know a
lot about these dolls.

Can you break them down?

 

Mike: Yeah, this doll
actually has jointed legs.

 

The joints were really
interesting innovation

because it allowed more posing
of the doll and it made more
lifelike.

So this doll, she actually had
pearl earrings she appears to be
missing one.

But she's got a beautiful
matching pearl necklace.

Jamie: Yeah. Mike: This
is a doll from the 1950s.

It's a fashion Cindy doll.

 

- She has real pantyhose
Jamie: Wow!

Their fashion was current with
what actual people were wearing
at the time.

Mike: Yeah, this is the
biggest doll the largest doll.

- I mean, she's really quite
special. Jamie: She was the
belle of the ball.

 

Mike: Indeed. Jamie: The
biggest belle of the ball.

[Laughs]

Mike: We've got
painted toenails,

articulated bows
and joint knees,

 

hands and elbows.

 

Jamie: Do you know
when she was made?

Mike: Either in the
late 1800s Early 1900s.

 

- Here we have a "stole".
Jamie: That feels real.

 

Mike: It made your doll
head and shoulders

above your friends doll.

 

Jamie: You're very
knowledgeable about dolls.

[Laughs]

 

Matt: After three days of
sorting sifting impacting

6,000 square feet and a lifetime
worth of family heirlooms and
memories,

 

it's finally time to have Lenis
come back to see her house

 

as it was before she
made it her home.

 

Lenis: Hi, Matt!
Matt: Hi, ladies, how are you?

 

Angelica: How are you?
Lenis: Here we are.

 

Matt: I'm happy to see you.
Lenis: Yeah.

 

- And you remember Angelica.
Matt: Angelica, good to see you.

Angelica: Good to see you, Matt.
Matt: How are you?

- All right, we've done a
lot of work. Lenis: Okay.

Excited to show you
and it's cold so let's dig in.

Angelica: Okay, great.

 

Lenis: Oh my gosh!

 

- Angelica, look at this.
Angelica: Wow!

 

Mom, are you feeling okay?

 

Lenis: Yeah, I'm okay I can see
why I love this house from the
very Get go.

 

And you've packed it all up, I
cannot believe it it is such a
relief.

 

I am so excited to
be able to move on.

 

Oh my gosh!

 

My library! Where are
all the books? [Laughs]

 

Matt: This was the hardest room,
where the most men to work in
here.

 

Eh, this is, this was the
main room I think you live in.

 

But this was a cozy
room you could tell.

 

Angelica: Well, as a child
growing up we'd all hunker in on
the sofa

and sit down and watch TV my
step-dad might put a fire on

and the wood stove and we just,

it would be very
cozy, very cozy.

 

Lenis: It's a little different.

 

I mean a library without books

is kind of you know,

like doesn't have a soul.

 

It needs... needs someone else
to fill it up again.

 

Yeah.

 

Matt: Such was the past--
Lenis: Yes.

Matt: Let's walk
towards the future,

I've got a few items
that I was able to find.

Lenis: Oh! well, I think
that would lift the mood.

Matt: I think so, so let's get
sit on and we can go through all
this items.

Angelica: All right, let's go.
Lenis: All right.

 

Matt It's always a whirlwind for
families at this point in the
process.

It's a mix of grief and relief.

They're so glad that they're
through this massive hurdle,

 

but they are sad that they're
leaving a home of 30 years.

 

And that's why my favorite
part of the process

is presenting them with
their Legacy List items,

to help remind them that the
memories live on no matter where
they go.

 

Just want to thank
you first of all.

 

It's an honor to go
through your house.

 

And so we appreciate the trust.

 

You are such a
historian your family.

And it was just a joy

to find some of the
things I found.

 

Before we get to
Legacy List items,

 

I want to show you a few things
that we found along the way

that I know you'll
be excited about.

 

This...

 

is a very old photo

of this house! that
we're standing.

[She sighs]

You're right original shutters.

 

- They're still here.
Lenis: Original shutters.

 

It's so beautiful with the
horses they've got full-length
dresses on.

 

Matt: Here's the cool thing,

we found a hoop skirt
upstairs in the Attic

 

and I do think, I can't
guarantee it's this dress.

 

Angelica: I've never
seen it before.

 

Matt: It's 140 years old.

Angelica: Oh, my goodness.

 

- I'm so glad you found this for
mom. Matt: That's really really
cool.

 

Angelica: Just for the house
to come full circle for her.

 

Matt: I'm gonna ask you
close your eyes for me, please.

Angelica: Okay, both of us?
Matt: Yes.

 

Angelica: Okay.
Lenis: Close your eyes.

 

Angelica: I'm really curious,
Matt. Lenis: I know.

 

Matt: Okay ladies,
open your eyes.

 

Both: Oh!

Matt: The fans.
Angelica: Oh my word!

 

Matt: We learned a
lot about fans.

So this one's 300 years old

 

the rest of these are
about 200 years old.

 

So there's Asian fans, there's
European fans, French fans.

 

- Oh! Matt: This is
one we had flamingos,

we had ostrich, this is
actually the oldest fan we had.

A really nice fan,
original ivory.

 

Now a lot of these
fans are falling apart.

Lenis: Yeah.
Matt: But this is 300 years old!

- It's going to!
Angelica: I don't know

how it survived 300 years.

Matt: I'm 43 and I'm
falling apart. [Laughs]

Okay, so I can't imagine, I
mean, you kept this for that
long time.

 

Lenis: Oh, this is
another French one.

 

Both: Oh!
Lenis: Isn't that lovely?

 

Angelica: So it's beautiful.
Lenis: So exquisite.

 

How can you top that?

Matt: Well, I'll show you.

 

This is why we do what we do.

 

It's Legacy List time.

 

Angelica: What on earth is that?

Lenis: It's a case

 

for a little enameled box

 

that supports a piece of jade.

 

Angelica: Oh, my goodness.
Matt: No, Lenis isn't that.

- It's not just a piece of jade.
Lenis: Jade. [Laughs]

Matt: It's an incredible
piece of jade.

 

We do think it's
about 200 years old.

 

Lenis: You know.
Matt: That's amazing.

 

The carving is spectacular.

 

You're starting to see a lot of
ancient collections have the
same symbology.

 

Angelica: It's just gorgeous!

And once again, growing up...

 

[Lenis laughs] If I saw
this sitting on a shelf

I would just pass it over.

 

Matt: Your mom's got something
from a Chinese emperor 200 years
ago.

 

- That's, that's pretty
spectacular. Angelica: It is!

 

Lenis: What is there more?
Matt: There is more.

Lens: I can't believe it.
Angelica: Surely, they can't be.

Both: Oh!
Matt: So, hands everybody...

 

- Great dolls.
Angela: You know, Matt,

when I was a young girl my
grandmother would pull me into
the dining room

and she would uncover her dolls

- and it was almost a sacred
ceremony. Lenis: Right.

Angela: That we do every visit.

 

Matt: So you remember
these dolls.

Angela: I remember these dolls

and they're just they bring back
to some really precious
memories.

 

Matt: Five generations.
Lenis: Aha.

Matt: That you have these dolls.
Lenis: My gosh! It seems like a
long--

 

That seems like a lot! Does it?

 

Angelica: And my grandmother
really treasured her dolls.

Lenis: She did, she loved them.
Angelica: She treasured her
dolls.

 

Lenis: She would never
let me have them.

Angelica: She was very
possessive of her dolls.

 

They were her prized possessions

and they're worthy
to be treasured today.

 

Matt: This next item
is actually amazing.

 

Angelica: Really? Matt: I never
seen anything like this.

 

When you put it on the Legacy
List, I didn'’’t really think a
whole lot about it.

And then when we found it and
really started researching it,

- it blew me away.
Lenis: Wander what it is.

Angelica: I'm very
intrigued, Matt.

 

Lenis: Ah!
Matt: This is the linen flag.

 

Lenis: Oh, yes.

 

Matt: This flag has
44 stars on it.

Lenis: Oh!
Angelica: My goodness!

 

Matt: This flag its first
initiation was July 4th 1891.

 

Lenis: Oh, that's just
beautiful. Matt: How cool is
that?

Angelica: So special,
it's amazing.

And the world was so different
130 years ago.

 

Lenis: Oh, was it ever, yes.

Matt: And I'm thinking,
who made the flag?

 

Angelica: You know, the hopes,
I think of the hopes and dreams

of the person who
made this flag.

 

What were they 130 years ago.

 

And people have
died for this flag.

 

Matt: That's why
this next item is so special.

 

This is the New Guinea prow.

 

And again, another
amazing piece.

- It would have sat up on
a canoe. Both: Uh-huh.

 

Matt: Right up on top. Lenis:
My father brought this back

from World War Two.

 

Matt: Your dad was
sneaking onto the beaches

to make sure it was
safe for battle.

 

Angelica: My grandfather had a
very difficult time in World War
Two.

 

Lenis: Yes, he did. Matt: And
still he brought it home.

Angelica: He brought it back.
Lenis: Right.

 

Angelica: Something about this
spoke to him and he had to bring
it back.

 

Lenis: Aha, it's beautiful.

 

Matt: In the middle of war--
Lenis: I know.

Matt: Your dad saw beauty.

 

- This is what a Legacy
List is about. Lenis: Yeah.

 

Matt. One more thing,
this is my favorite item.

 

I...

 

found a picture of what I
think is your grandfather.

 

Lenis: Yes, and that's my mom.

 

Angelica: Oh!
Lenis: Isn't that sweet.

 

Angelica: Oh, that's France.
Lenis: I called him papa.

 

Angelica: Oh, there she is!
That's grand Lenis: Is so sweet.

Angelica: That's grandma.

 

She never talked
about her parents to me.

As much time as we spent
together are you very little
about her parents.

Lenis: I loved him,
I knew him very well.

He was very kind,
very gentle, very loving.

 

Angelica: He looks
like a very involved...

Lenis: Aha. Angelica: Caring
father in that picture.

 

Matt: What did he do for a
living? Lenis: He was a
conductor.

 

A railroad conductor,

 

on an old-fashioned line

 

called the Louisville and
Nashville railroad the L & N.

 

Angelica: Oh my goodness!

Lenis: And I guess he--
Matt: Behold!

 

Angelica: Oh, my word!
Matt: Pretty nice.

 

Lenis: And he, he
made this for mom.

 

Angelica: Oh! Lenis: Isn't
that just too fabulous.

Angelica: Oh!
Matt: So he made this for her.

 

Lenis: Yeah.
Matt: How cool is that?

 

He really is was a craftsman.

 

I mean you really look at how
he made it it was amazing.

Lenis: Right. Matt: I'm
gonna let you hold this.

I knew I was gonna find this, I
didn't know I was gonna find
this.

I opened the door and this is a
key to your grandfather's locker
at work.

 

Angelica: Oh, wow...

 

Matt: Think about how
long ago that was.

 

That's a one-of-a-kind.

 

Your granddad got that,
your great grandfather.

 

Angelica: I'm just
smitten with it.

- I mean it's just--
Lenis: Isn't it lovely?

Matt: His hands-- Angelica:
I never knew this existed.

And my grandmother
was just so dear to me

 

and there are so many
times when I talk to her,

I want to talk to
her about my life

and so to see this and see
what her father did for her

it just means a lot, Matt.

 

Matt: You did a really good
job of preserving so much stuff.

 

I mean you've got real history
of both your family and America.

 

You know what this is all about?

 

All of this is about your
legacy all of this is about

 

people before you and
people ahead of you.

 

And I think that's
really really cool.

Lenis: Well this, this has just
been a revelation and a
wonderful experience.

 

Matt: You know, this is all just
stuf÷} if we don't know the
stories behind it.

 

And now it's up to Angelica to
pass these stories on to her
kids

 

so the family's legacy will
continue from generation to
generation.

 

Every family has a legacy
sometimes they just need a
little help finding it.

 

Lenis: Williamsburg
is a very beautiful place.

 

You feel like you're
looking at landscapes

that the Pilgrim
Fathers looked at.

 

And then of course there's lots
of history beautiful
architecture

 

and lots of cultural
opportunities so we're really
happy here.

 

Moving to a smaller place I was
afraid that you know it might be
uncomfortable,

but I actually really
have enjoyed it very much.

 

I put all the items from the
Legacy List on display now.

 

They're not you know, buried in
the Attic they're out where they
should be

 

and that's a real upside
of downsizing [Laughs]

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