1 00:00:03,833 --> 00:00:07,166 The downsizing is daunting for a retiree. 2 00:00:07,166 --> 00:00:09,433 When she moves out of her 6,000 square foot house 3 00:00:10,533 --> 00:00:11,833 filled with cherished family items 4 00:00:13,166 --> 00:00:15,800 into a new home less than half that size. 5 00:00:20,633 --> 00:00:21,500 Matt: I'm Matt Paxton. 6 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:22,033 Let's do it man! 7 00:00:24,133 --> 00:00:26,966 My team is specialists: Jamie, Mike and Avi, 8 00:00:28,933 --> 00:00:31,766 help me help people downsize their homes and settle estates. 9 00:00:33,766 --> 00:00:36,200 As the largest population of baby boomers in American history 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,033 transitioned towards retirement 11 00:00:38,566 --> 00:00:41,133 they and their families face the overwhelming task 12 00:00:41,133 --> 00:00:42,533 of emptying their homes to move. 13 00:00:43,900 --> 00:00:45,400 We helped them sift through a lifetime of possessions... 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,933 Avi: Bingo! 15 00:00:46,933 --> 00:00:48,766 Matt: Heirlooms and collectibles... 16 00:00:48,766 --> 00:00:50,033 Jamie: Oh my gosh! Avi: She's gonna love it. 17 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:53,766 Matt: To help them find the missing family treasures 18 00:00:53,766 --> 00:00:54,766 that mean the most to them. 19 00:00:55,666 --> 00:00:58,600 - Is that a diamond? - [Huffish] 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,933 And along the way they'll discover that the most important museum in the world 21 00:01:02,466 --> 00:01:04,600 may be in their family's basement. 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,166 - Great grandfather and grandmother taken in 1880. 23 00:01:07,166 --> 00:01:07,633 Matt: From attics to sellers, 24 00:01:09,433 --> 00:01:11,633 closets to cupboards, we uncover the memories they want to preserve. 25 00:01:13,266 --> 00:01:14,800 This is living history this is what we're here to find. 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,566 Team: Yeah! Let's go! 27 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:20,533 Matt: And discover the compelling personal and often historical stories 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,566 spanning generations that are their family's legacy. 29 00:01:34,366 --> 00:01:36,866 Today I'm headed to the small town of historic Newark Delaware. 30 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:40,400 So I got a call from a lady named Lenis Northmoore 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:40,833 She's reached her golden years 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,466 and she needs help downsizing from a 19th century home 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,866 to a much smaller home in historic Williamsburg Virginia. 34 00:01:53,733 --> 00:01:56,000 I lived near there my whole life and raised my kids there, 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,700 and I can tell you she's going to love it! 36 00:01:57,700 --> 00:02:00,433 Because she's a retired art historian 37 00:02:00,433 --> 00:02:02,666 who is definitely gonna appreciate the grandeur in the history of Williamsburg. 38 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:06,833 With its surviving colonial structures and homes from the 18th century, 39 00:02:08,566 --> 00:02:09,766 Williamsburg is a living history museum. 40 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:14,600 And supposedly, from all her world travels, 41 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,133 Lenis has enough artifacts and objects in her closets and drawers 42 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:19,700 to make her own Museum. 43 00:02:21,166 --> 00:02:23,100 Moving can be really overwhelming and stressful 44 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:25,500 so I'm gonna try to make it easier for her 45 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,066 and find a few of the items that have gone missing in her home over the years. 46 00:02:30,466 --> 00:02:32,466 Lenis: Oh, Matt! You found us. 47 00:02:34,133 --> 00:02:36,566 Mat: This is amazing. It's good to finally meet you. 48 00:02:36,566 --> 00:02:36,900 Lenis: Oh, I know! Matt: Take a hug. 49 00:02:38,333 --> 00:02:38,866 Good to see you. 50 00:02:40,666 --> 00:02:41,900 You told me the house was nice, I did not expect this. 51 00:02:43,333 --> 00:02:44,400 I mean it's grand. How old is it? 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,766 Lenis: Well it's a couple hundred years old at least. 53 00:02:48,766 --> 00:02:49,866 Matt: Wow! Lenis: Late 18th century. 54 00:02:51,066 --> 00:02:52,833 And the shutters are original. 55 00:02:52,833 --> 00:02:53,400 Matt: Original shutters. Lenis: Yeah. 56 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:54,866 Matt: You have all this land. 57 00:02:56,566 --> 00:02:58,533 Lenis: Well, all this land is now State Park. 58 00:03:00,333 --> 00:03:05,333 It used to be the biggest farm, and this end of town 220 acres. 59 00:03:05,333 --> 00:03:06,500 Matt: And what did they farm? 60 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:06,833 Lenis: Dairy. Matt: Dairy. 61 00:03:08,233 --> 00:03:10,466 Lenis: I raised my family here for over 30 years. 62 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:13,633 Two children, Angelica and Jonathan. 63 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:16,066 So there are lots of memories in this house. 64 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:19,900 Matt: All right well this is stunning on its own 65 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:23,266 so I'm kind of excited to see what's inside. 66 00:03:23,266 --> 00:03:23,966 Lenis: Well, come on, let's go in. Matt: Let's do it. 67 00:03:27,033 --> 00:03:28,600 Lenis: Come on in. Matt: Wow! This is awesome! 68 00:03:29,766 --> 00:03:30,933 Lenis: Oh! Thanks. Matt: This is huge! 69 00:03:32,966 --> 00:03:35,733 Lenis: It's got high ceilings. Matt: This is really really beautiful. 70 00:03:35,733 --> 00:03:37,433 - And is like a museum. Lenis: This is my museum. 71 00:03:38,966 --> 00:03:40,566 Matt: We have a pretty firm time-line here, 72 00:03:40,566 --> 00:03:43,066 Lenis has to be out of the house in three days 73 00:03:43,066 --> 00:03:44,400 because she has a signed contract and the new family is ready to move in. 74 00:03:46,166 --> 00:03:48,133 So I've really got a tour the entire property 75 00:03:48,133 --> 00:03:49,266 to make sure I can actually finish this job for her. 76 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Lenis: Let's start with the drawing room. 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,733 Matt: Okay. 78 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:56,466 What is a formal drawing room? 79 00:03:58,333 --> 00:04:00,766 Lenis: Well it's a place to go after dinner and have a drink, you know. 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,633 Matt: All right, so a lot of stuff I'm looking around in it 81 00:04:04,633 --> 00:04:05,600 it's all really nice good collections. 82 00:04:07,433 --> 00:04:09,000 Have you acquired all of this or is in the family or anything? 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Lenis: Some of its family and other things I've acquired. 84 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,233 Matt: I'm specifically looking at the clock 85 00:04:16,233 --> 00:04:18,533 Lenis: Oh! That is a family piece that came down in my family. 86 00:04:19,966 --> 00:04:21,400 Matt: I mean you walk on the room and it just grabs you. 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,066 Lenis: Yes. Matt: It's stunning. 88 00:04:23,066 --> 00:04:25,533 Lenis: One of my great-great grandfather's came down to Boston 89 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,800 and bought the clock and a sofa and some other pieces of furniture. 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,300 This is all we have left though. 91 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:35,466 Matt: So the rest of the house is empty. Lenis: Oh! No. [Laughs] 92 00:04:35,466 --> 00:04:36,466 - No, no. Matt: No. 93 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,766 - This door. Lenis: Oh, yes! 94 00:04:39,766 --> 00:04:41,700 It in a few minutes it'll will be chiming. 95 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:41,966 - Let's move on. Matt: Okay. 96 00:04:43,633 --> 00:04:44,866 - It's your house, I wanna see it. Lenis: Lot more to see, come on. 97 00:04:47,266 --> 00:04:47,900 This is the yellow room. 98 00:04:49,633 --> 00:04:50,833 Matt: Is a dining room, formal dining room? 99 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,666 Lenis: Yeah. 100 00:04:52,666 --> 00:04:55,066 Matt: All right, see a lot of boxes. Lenis: Oh, yeah. 101 00:04:55,066 --> 00:04:56,766 Matt: So it looks like you are starting to downsize. 102 00:04:56,766 --> 00:04:59,066 Lenis: This, this, this is nothing, Matt, let me tell you. 103 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:00,966 Matt: Stuff everywhere. Lenis. Stuff everywhere 104 00:05:00,966 --> 00:05:02,633 that I just don't know what to do with. 105 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:04,300 Matt: Well, you've got 30 years of life. 106 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:05,466 Lenis: Well, yeah! Come on let's go to the kitchen. 107 00:05:08,033 --> 00:05:10,500 Matt: Room after room is just filled with extravagant stuff. 108 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:13,333 There's like 20 rooms in this house and I've only seen two 109 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:14,100 that could have already billed the average person's home. 110 00:05:15,966 --> 00:05:17,066 There are literally thousands of pieces of fine art, 111 00:05:19,066 --> 00:05:21,433 porcelain figurines, furniture, paintings, wall ornaments, you name it! 112 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:25,366 A house this size would normally take seven or eight days to pack up 113 00:05:27,366 --> 00:05:28,666 but Lenis has got to be out in three so we are really up against the clock. 114 00:05:31,466 --> 00:05:31,866 Lenis: Here's the kitchen. 115 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,500 Matt: Eh... This thing right here is massive. 116 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,566 Lenis: It is... It's a real Moby-dick. [Laughs] 117 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:42,666 Matt: Lenis's collection is larger than life. 118 00:05:44,066 --> 00:05:46,433 She not only appreciates grandeur in style, she lives it. 119 00:05:48,433 --> 00:05:50,833 Lenis: Well it's six feet by eight feet, that's a nice size for a picture. 120 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,033 It's kind of a typical painting of the Hudson River School, 121 00:05:56,033 --> 00:05:57,433 and I'm hoping it's by one of the Masters. 122 00:05:58,966 --> 00:06:00,833 Matt: The size and scale of this painting alone 123 00:06:00,833 --> 00:06:01,733 makes me really excited about its value. 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,066 I really hope for Lenis's is sake that this will be a windfall for her. 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,633 Well I've got a buddy that's gonna come look at it for me. 126 00:06:08,633 --> 00:06:10,233 - He's one of the experts. Lenis: Oh! I'd love to-- 127 00:06:10,233 --> 00:06:11,833 I'd love to hear what he has to say, that's very exciting. 128 00:06:13,366 --> 00:06:15,166 Matt: I see a lot of stuff this is living up to the hip. 129 00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:17,200 Lenis: [Laughs] Matt: I love it. 130 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,166 All right, let's sit down. It seems there's some tea ready for us. 131 00:06:19,166 --> 00:06:20,833 Lenis: Yeah, yes. Matt: Let's have tea and let's discuss 132 00:06:20,833 --> 00:06:25,733 - what are we going to do. Lenis: Let's have tea. 133 00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:27,833 Matt: Okay, so we're downsizing from... How many square feet is this house? 134 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:31,100 Lenis: Oh, just about 6,000 square feet. [Laughs] 135 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:32,733 Matt: 6,000 square feet, 136 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:34,000 - 20, almost 20 rooms. Lenis: Yes. 137 00:06:35,266 --> 00:06:36,100 Matt: Eh, how big is a house you're gonna move into? 138 00:06:37,133 --> 00:06:39,900 Lenis: Its 2,600 square feet, 139 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:41,900 which is not bad but it's you know, less than half. 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,533 Matt: That's really downsizing. Lenis: That is downsizing, yeah. 141 00:06:47,233 --> 00:06:50,800 Moving to Williamsburg Virginia, which is a very beautiful place. 142 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,333 Matt: Beautiful town, very historic. Lenis: Yeah. 143 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:54,100 Matt: Why did you choose Williamsburg? 144 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:56,033 Lenis: Well, my daughter works nearby, in a New York town. 145 00:06:57,700 --> 00:07:00,333 And she's got two beautiful children. 146 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:02,933 Matt: So grandchildren, it comes down to grandchildren. 147 00:07:02,933 --> 00:07:05,733 Lenis: It always comes down to grandchildren for everyone. 148 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:06,766 Matt: Sometimes it is that simple. Lenis: Yeah. 149 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:09,300 Matt: So as we spoke on the phone, 150 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:10,100 a part of our process is I asked you to create a list, 151 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,033 a legacy list of items that you want us to find 152 00:07:14,766 --> 00:07:15,900 that are really emotionally significant to you. 153 00:07:16,733 --> 00:07:17,566 So what is that list? 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,733 Lenis: Well, you know, that was a hard list to make. 155 00:07:20,733 --> 00:07:23,566 We bought a Chinese jade 156 00:07:25,366 --> 00:07:26,566 - scepter head. Matt: Okay. 157 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,066 Lenis: Which is a very unusual sort of thing. 158 00:07:30,233 --> 00:07:32,733 I think it might be from the imperial court in China 159 00:07:32,733 --> 00:07:33,700 and so it's quite special. 160 00:07:36,133 --> 00:07:37,833 Matt: I'm not looking for jade Chinese scepter heads every single day, 161 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,466 eh, but I have a feeling I'll know what it is when I see it. 162 00:07:42,033 --> 00:07:44,066 Lenis: And then I have an American flag... 163 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:48,066 Early, well I don't know how early. 164 00:07:48,066 --> 00:07:50,133 And it's really big, 165 00:07:50,133 --> 00:07:52,766 and I haven't seen that for a while, I'm not sure where it is. 166 00:07:52,766 --> 00:07:54,166 Matt: I know. Lenis: It's a sort of hand-sewn. 167 00:07:54,166 --> 00:07:55,366 It's really a, a beautiful thing. 168 00:07:56,866 --> 00:07:58,233 - So that-- Matt: So it's not just a flag. 169 00:07:58,233 --> 00:07:59,266 Lenis: It's not just a flag. Matt: Yeah, okay. 170 00:07:59,266 --> 00:07:59,600 Lenis: It's not just a flag. 171 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,900 My dad served in the Army in World War Two. 172 00:08:06,866 --> 00:08:09,066 He was in the South Pacific on New Guinea. 173 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,366 He found a prow a carved prow on the beach. 174 00:08:14,966 --> 00:08:16,700 Matt: Is the part that goes on the front the-- 175 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:17,766 Lenis: The front end that goes on the front of a big dugout canoe. 176 00:08:19,433 --> 00:08:20,133 And he brought that back with him. 177 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,733 Matt: Yeah, I mean that's what makes this job so cool, 178 00:08:24,733 --> 00:08:27,166 I'm able to find that one thing 179 00:08:27,166 --> 00:08:27,966 that will reconnect them with their loved one. 180 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:30,433 Lenis: Well, another thing on my list, 181 00:08:31,766 --> 00:08:34,000 is a little model railroad car 182 00:08:35,866 --> 00:08:39,066 that my mother's father made for her when she was a child. 183 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,800 He was a conductor on the L & N railroad 184 00:08:45,533 --> 00:08:47,533 that ran between Nashville and Louisville. 185 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:51,533 I love my papa very very much 186 00:08:51,533 --> 00:08:52,833 but I'm not sure what I've done it with. 187 00:08:56,366 --> 00:08:58,666 Matt: Family, family, family is coming up in your legacy list. 188 00:08:58,666 --> 00:09:00,266 - It's not as much the valuable stuff. Lenis: Right. 189 00:09:00,266 --> 00:09:02,133 Matt: Is not the financial stuff. Lenis: Right. 190 00:09:02,133 --> 00:09:04,400 Matt: My goal is for you to celebrate these items. 191 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,666 Lenis: Yes, to celebrate them. 192 00:09:06,666 --> 00:09:07,566 Matt: I'm gonna go through the house as we go, and bring my team in. 193 00:09:09,033 --> 00:09:10,866 Hopefully I'll find most everything on your list 194 00:09:10,866 --> 00:09:13,100 so I appreciate you entrusting us to go through this. 195 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:15,000 Lenis: Well, thank you so much. And I'm just very excited to-- 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,933 Matt: Well, we get excited there, let me get through first. [Laughs] 197 00:09:23,166 --> 00:09:25,533 this is a big big house full of rare and unique collectibles 198 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:28,600 that is gonna be a huge challenge to pack up in three days. 199 00:09:29,933 --> 00:09:31,566 So I need to bring in my team of specialists 200 00:09:31,566 --> 00:09:32,400 to help me find the items on her list 201 00:09:34,566 --> 00:09:36,133 but I also need to identify and assess the other items we'll find in the house 202 00:09:37,466 --> 00:09:37,900 that'll show up around every corner. 203 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:42,666 Mike, Mike is our general household in pop culture wizard. 204 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,866 When it comes to textiles, toys, kitchen wares, you name it, he's my guy. 205 00:09:49,033 --> 00:09:51,800 He also happens to be a cat lover a ridiculously obsessed cat lover. 206 00:09:53,966 --> 00:09:56,166 Avi, he's a proud graduate and football hero 207 00:09:56,166 --> 00:09:57,900 from VMI, Virginia Military Institute, 208 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,366 and now on our team he's our guru of religious and military artifacts. 209 00:10:02,666 --> 00:10:03,466 And then there's Jamie, 210 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:07,366 she actually lived on a remote Caribbean island for years 211 00:10:07,366 --> 00:10:09,466 where she met her husband, 212 00:10:09,466 --> 00:10:11,500 and now she's our authority on fashion fabric and photography. 213 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:16,533 All right, what do you guys think? 214 00:10:18,133 --> 00:10:20,400 Jamie: I mean it's beautiful. Avi: It's massive. 215 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,700 Matt: It's massive, is 6,000 square feet there's 20 rooms in here 216 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:26,033 we're actually on top of a State park. 217 00:10:26,033 --> 00:10:28,833 I mean this this it is just expansive 218 00:10:28,833 --> 00:10:30,933 and it is very symbolic of the client. 219 00:10:32,366 --> 00:10:34,000 She is just everything that's fabulous. 220 00:10:35,733 --> 00:10:36,666 My biggest challenge is that I walk through the house 221 00:10:39,033 --> 00:10:41,233 I'm like looking for one item and like: "Oh! What's that? Oh! What's this?" 222 00:10:41,233 --> 00:10:43,000 It's like a golden squirrel everywhere. [Laughs] 223 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,466 Everywhere I pop around, I keep something nice. 224 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,866 So we got to stay focused the need is very real here, right? 225 00:10:49,866 --> 00:10:51,966 This family, they are just overwhelmed by stuff, right? 226 00:10:53,833 --> 00:10:55,600 So yes, we want to go through and find all the legacy list, 227 00:10:57,266 --> 00:10:59,233 but even more importantly we want to help them drop their anxiety 228 00:10:59,233 --> 00:11:01,100 and just really help them get this house cleared 229 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:03,333 so they can move on to their next phase of life. 230 00:11:03,333 --> 00:11:04,900 We're not gonna we find until we get in there, so let's get started. 231 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:05,800 - Let's do it! Team: Let's go! 232 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:12,700 Matt: There are three floors in this house 233 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:16,566 with hidden rooms, secret staircases and servants quarters 234 00:11:16,566 --> 00:11:18,733 chocked full of stuff quiet over 30 plus years. 235 00:11:20,133 --> 00:11:22,466 Our job is gonna have to sift through all of it 236 00:11:22,466 --> 00:11:23,533 to find Lenis's legacy list items 237 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:26,866 and pack up the house for her move. 238 00:11:26,866 --> 00:11:28,033 Avi: Oh, men! This an amazing house. 239 00:11:29,066 --> 00:11:29,566 Matt: Classic attic. 240 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,966 Mike: This is the first attic we've been in where we can both stand up right. 241 00:11:33,966 --> 00:11:35,633 Avi: Yeah, I don't have that problem so much. 242 00:11:35,633 --> 00:11:37,400 Matt: Our process with the house this big 243 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,333 in a limited time of only three days 244 00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:42,366 is to split up the teams on each floor and just go. 245 00:11:42,366 --> 00:11:43,400 Mike: Okay. Avi: Start over here. 246 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,200 Jamie: It's a cool trunk. Matt: It's an awesome trunk. 247 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,000 - It's a flat trunk, so it's not-- Jamie: It says "Holland America wine." 248 00:11:51,866 --> 00:11:52,066 Matt: This would be a steamer trunk. 249 00:11:56,766 --> 00:11:57,500 Jamie: Wow! Matt: [Cough] It's a standing one. 250 00:11:58,333 --> 00:11:59,833 [Murmur] 251 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Matt: This is really just a suitcase. 252 00:12:03,333 --> 00:12:05,666 Jamie: I would need like eight of these for a trip. 253 00:12:05,666 --> 00:12:08,233 Matt: I mean you had to be really rich to have a suitcase like this 254 00:12:08,233 --> 00:12:08,866 and you had your drawers already. 255 00:12:10,133 --> 00:12:10,700 What is that for? 256 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,133 - Is that a-- Jamie: It's for, is that a hat box? 257 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:14,700 Matt: That is a hat box. 258 00:12:15,733 --> 00:12:18,366 Jamie: I think it's really cool 259 00:12:18,366 --> 00:12:19,766 and part of me kind of wishes that this is how we still traveled. 260 00:12:21,133 --> 00:12:23,866 It would make it feel a little bit more special 261 00:12:23,866 --> 00:12:25,866 than being crammed into a tiny little airplane 262 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:31,933 with a roller board that's way too small for stuff I wanna take with me. 263 00:12:31,933 --> 00:12:32,933 Matt: [Laughs] Yeah, this is, this is not going in the overhead. 264 00:12:32,933 --> 00:12:33,066 Jamie: No. Matt: Definitely. 265 00:12:35,866 --> 00:12:38,500 The thing about attics is they are a treasure trove for history. 266 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:40,500 People throw the stuff up in the attic and they forget about it for years. 267 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:41,866 Mike: Avi! 268 00:12:43,966 --> 00:12:45,900 - Here. Avi: Looks like a coffee tin to me. 269 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:48,733 Mike: What they would've used this for 270 00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:50,500 was in the general store or in a restaurant, 271 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:53,800 they would have this to store the dry goods like the coffee or tea, 272 00:12:55,166 --> 00:12:55,933 and you'd come up and say: 273 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,166 "I'd like to buy a pound of tea, please." Or a pound of coffee 274 00:13:00,833 --> 00:13:02,500 and they'd measure it out, put it in a bag and off you go. 275 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:07,133 So these were really common back up 276 00:13:07,133 --> 00:13:09,433 until manufacturing process has changed and packaging changed. 277 00:13:11,533 --> 00:13:13,800 Avi: And I noticed the Swain Earl which is a name I'm pretty familiar with 278 00:13:14,933 --> 00:13:18,266 regards to tea and coffee production. 279 00:13:18,266 --> 00:13:19,133 Mike: Oh! Yeah? Avi: Actually one of the pioneers, yeah. 280 00:13:20,766 --> 00:13:23,700 It's actually a Boston company and this is... 281 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:25,133 a picture of the Boston Harbor. 282 00:13:28,033 --> 00:13:31,566 Jamie: Hey I found something that looks really old. 283 00:13:31,566 --> 00:13:34,000 Matt: It is. Jamie: But also very cool. 284 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,033 Matt: These are hoops for a hoop skirt. 285 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,100 - And here is the dress. Jamie: They start small and they get-- 286 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,366 Matt: At the top, and the bottom ones get bigger. 287 00:13:42,366 --> 00:13:44,333 Jamie: Right, the whole reason that they started wearing hoop skirts 288 00:13:44,333 --> 00:13:45,900 is to keep the lady's legs cool 289 00:13:47,566 --> 00:13:48,766 because they had to wear multiple layers of clothing. 290 00:13:50,533 --> 00:13:51,933 So it kept the fabric away from their legs. 291 00:13:56,633 --> 00:13:59,600 Narrator: The hoopskirt was an elaborate XIX century undergarment 292 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,366 worn by women of all social classes and ethnicities. 293 00:14:02,533 --> 00:14:04,500 In fact both First Lady Mary Todd Lincoln 294 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:06,933 and her dressmaker Elizabeth Hobbes Keckley 295 00:14:07,866 --> 00:14:10,033 were huge fans of hoop skirts 296 00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:11,766 which could be worn day or night for work or play. 297 00:14:13,733 --> 00:14:16,000 Slightly more comfortable than their XVI and XVII century predecessors 298 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,933 the hoop skirt or crinoline was a clothing contraption made of steel. 299 00:14:21,733 --> 00:14:25,133 Steel rods were formed into wired circles or springs 300 00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:27,900 in an elaborate process then wound with yarn 301 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:30,666 and suspended by tapes from the woman's waist, 302 00:14:30,666 --> 00:14:32,000 in descending diameters from smallest to largest. 303 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,300 While the earlier panty was quite expensive 304 00:14:36,766 --> 00:14:38,033 the XIX century crinoline was fairly affordable 305 00:14:39,633 --> 00:14:41,066 costing only between three to four cents a spring. 306 00:14:43,033 --> 00:14:46,433 In 1868 Boston, a 20 spring crinoline was a mere 62 cents. 307 00:14:52,266 --> 00:14:53,700 But there was a much higher cost to this fashion trend 308 00:14:55,233 --> 00:14:57,633 because, shockingly, thousands of women died while wearing them 309 00:14:58,966 --> 00:15:00,533 as they caught on fire got, caught in machinery, 310 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:03,500 carriage wheels, and even gusts of wind. 311 00:15:05,866 --> 00:15:07,433 And although hoop skirts were worn for modesty sake 312 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:11,566 the original farthingale was actually invented in 1400 Spain 313 00:15:12,933 --> 00:15:16,000 to enable Joan of Portugal queen consort of Castile 314 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,066 and second wife of King Henry the fourth 315 00:15:18,866 --> 00:15:20,933 to hide her multiple illegitimate pregnancies in court. 316 00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:25,633 As World War One dawned on America 317 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,000 and rationing of all materials including fabric and steel became the norm 318 00:15:31,066 --> 00:15:32,800 the hoopskirt was replaced 319 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,933 by the narrower and more form-fitting silhouettes 320 00:15:35,933 --> 00:15:37,733 that eventually made their way into the Roaring Twenties. 321 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,566 Although the hoop skirt is now mostly a memory of a bygone era 322 00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:46,633 today women do occasionally make a play for the past 323 00:15:46,633 --> 00:15:49,033 wearing them under extravagant wedding dresses, ball gowns and costumes. 324 00:15:52,933 --> 00:15:54,300 Jamie: That's a tiny little rib cage. 325 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,266 Matt: This person was tiny! 326 00:15:57,266 --> 00:16:01,266 Jamie: Yeah! Well having worked in in fashion for quite some time 327 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:03,933 I can tell you that they do not make dresses like this anymore. 328 00:16:05,666 --> 00:16:07,900 You can tell this was made to order essentially. 329 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:14,066 Matt: I tend to float between my 30s, 32, 34, and 36s 330 00:16:14,066 --> 00:16:15,800 and my pants I don't think you could do that back in the day. 331 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,866 Because was too expensive to have another pair of pants. 332 00:16:18,866 --> 00:16:19,700 Jamie: They also weren't eating 333 00:16:21,233 --> 00:16:21,733 - all the processed foods... Matt: Fear enough. 334 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:24,100 Jamie: That some of us eat. 335 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:24,666 Matt: Thank God I was born when I was born. 336 00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:31,733 Avi: Mike, I think I've got something. 337 00:16:33,666 --> 00:16:35,600 Mike: Hey, Matt! Avi: Matt! 338 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,966 Matt, I found something in the Attic. 339 00:16:38,133 --> 00:16:38,500 Matt: What do you got? 340 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,933 Here it is, the New Guinea prowl, man! 341 00:16:44,433 --> 00:16:45,066 Man... 342 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:47,700 Mike: She's gonna be stoked, man. 343 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:48,433 Matt: Story lines up for you. 344 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,700 Oh, yeah, the age of it, the where. 345 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,100 What's cool about this is, you know, 346 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:54,900 lots of guys come back from the one they bring back some type of souvenir 347 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:59,600 but like her dad even in the middle of war bound art. 348 00:17:01,333 --> 00:17:03,500 This speaks to who she is. 349 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:04,733 I mean she was taught from her dad she was taught for my mom 350 00:17:06,033 --> 00:17:07,466 and they found the beauty in everything. 351 00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:13,933 This is a huge find because it's the first item on the list 352 00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:16,566 and it gets the team excited but we've still got a few more items to find 353 00:17:16,566 --> 00:17:17,766 and we don't have a lot of time to do it. 354 00:17:17,766 --> 00:17:19,433 [Music] 355 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:28,400 It's day two of three we need to find the other things on Lenis's Legacy List 356 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,933 but we also have to identify, inventory and pack up 357 00:17:31,933 --> 00:17:33,600 the thousands of items in this house to prepare her for move. 358 00:17:35,133 --> 00:17:36,666 And we only have today and tomorrow to get it all done. 359 00:17:38,266 --> 00:17:39,400 We're in the library clearly, we got books everywhere. 360 00:17:40,333 --> 00:17:40,833 This is the room she lives in. 361 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,466 This is the most important room in the house. 362 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,200 This is the space she spent the most time on in the entire house, 363 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,500 this little couch right here, and this is her square, 364 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:52,366 this is where she spends most the time. 365 00:17:52,366 --> 00:17:53,233 - I call it a cockpit. Avi: Cockpit. 366 00:17:53,233 --> 00:17:55,000 Will find her money her glasses, 367 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:55,466 the things that matter most will all be right in here. 368 00:17:57,066 --> 00:17:58,933 You know, everybody has a cockpit in their house. 369 00:17:58,933 --> 00:17:59,866 It's where you live and spend most of your time. 370 00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:03,300 For me it's on my couch, 371 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:05,266 everything I need, my remote controls, my cell phone, my food, 372 00:18:05,266 --> 00:18:06,933 it's all right around me. 373 00:18:06,933 --> 00:18:08,133 So it's really easy for us to lose these special items 374 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:11,866 when all we do is spend the majority of our time in this very small area. 375 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,000 - You've got these smokers. Avi: Very cool. 376 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,633 Matt: A lot of her old teapots are nice 377 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,500 and I know those are gonna go with her to her new house 378 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:20,933 so the teapots I know we can, the plates, we can automatically pack. 379 00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:23,533 Mike: Oh, what do you got there? 380 00:18:23,533 --> 00:18:24,066 Jamie: I think we might have found the blueprints. 381 00:18:26,566 --> 00:18:26,933 Matt: The books we've really got to go through 382 00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:29,433 Mike: I'd say so! 383 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:35,833 Avi: This looks interesting. 384 00:18:35,833 --> 00:18:37,500 [Music] 385 00:18:43,366 --> 00:18:45,500 - Matt! Matt: Yeah? 386 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:45,833 Avi: I think I found something, man. 387 00:18:47,966 --> 00:18:48,600 That that jade piece you were talking about. 388 00:18:51,033 --> 00:18:51,466 What do you think? 389 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:54,766 Matt: That is definitely jade. 390 00:18:57,333 --> 00:18:57,833 Avi: Oh, man! 391 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:01,800 Matt: "Purchase from Governor John Geelong, Estate 1958. 392 00:19:03,833 --> 00:19:06,700 - Toft of old Jade." Avi: Badass, man. 393 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:08,200 Matt: This is what she was looking for, dude. 394 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,633 - This is a really nice piece of jade. Avi: Amazing piece... Wow. 395 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,666 Matt: I've never seen anything like this before. 396 00:19:12,666 --> 00:19:13,666 I keep saying that every room in this house. 397 00:19:13,666 --> 00:19:16,000 This is insane! 398 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,333 I mean how many times do you find something in the house 399 00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:18,533 that was given to an emperor. 400 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:21,766 I always have to turn it over to make sure 401 00:19:21,766 --> 00:19:24,933 there's not like residue from a price tag. [Laughs] 402 00:19:24,933 --> 00:19:26,166 Cos' you get super exciting you're like: 403 00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:27,933 "Oh my god! This is it! This is the thing!" 404 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:29,166 And you go like: "Oh, man, she got it at TJ MAX". 405 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,833 Another item off the list. 406 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,766 Narrator: The Ruyi is a Chinese ceremonial scepter 407 00:19:38,766 --> 00:19:40,233 symbolizing power and good fortune. 408 00:19:42,166 --> 00:19:45,433 Ruyi became luxurious symbols of wealth and political power 409 00:19:45,433 --> 00:19:46,400 throughout the many Chinese dynasties 410 00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:51,033 as well as ornaments of the word "ruyi" means satisfied or pleasing. 411 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,666 During the Han Dynasty Emperor's and Nobles would hold ruyi while talking 412 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,633 so it became known as a "Tan Bing" or talking baton. 413 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:02,100 During the Ming and Qing dynasties 414 00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:07,233 it was given as a gift to Emperor's during important court celebrations 415 00:20:07,233 --> 00:20:08,500 such as weddings and birthdays. 416 00:20:11,866 --> 00:20:13,666 The origin of the ruyi has baffled anthropologists. 417 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,300 One theory is that they originated as back scratches 418 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:19,533 for the powerful in early China. 419 00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:23,900 The head of Lenis's ruyi was carved from jade 420 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:25,666 and repurposed as a lid of a decorative box. 421 00:20:27,166 --> 00:20:29,600 The carp center image signifies longevity in Chinese. 422 00:20:30,933 --> 00:20:33,600 The pattern around the outer edge of the ruyi 423 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,333 is known as "huí wén" or "meander", representing cycles and rebirth. 424 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:41,933 Jade has been treasured in China for centuries 425 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,500 and is regarded as one of its most valuable and precious gems. 426 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:49,300 Known as the Stone of Heaven 427 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:53,133 jade was used as a medium to connect heaven and earth in rituals 428 00:20:53,133 --> 00:20:55,800 and also ward off evil, there is a Chinese proverb that says: 429 00:20:57,066 --> 00:21:00,166 "Gold has a price Jade is priceless." 430 00:21:00,166 --> 00:21:01,833 [Music] 431 00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:08,433 Avi: Hey, Matt. Matt: Yeah. 432 00:21:10,300 --> 00:21:10,700 Avi: I think I found something pretty interesting here. 433 00:21:14,866 --> 00:21:17,000 Matt: Do you know what is it? Avi: I'm not quite sure. 434 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,566 Matt: I know exactly what it is, it's a silk iron. 435 00:21:19,633 --> 00:21:21,633 This is a really nice one, actually. 436 00:21:21,633 --> 00:21:23,766 Coal that are been burning you'd put it in the top 437 00:21:23,766 --> 00:21:25,033 and it would heat this up very slowly 438 00:21:26,333 --> 00:21:28,433 and it's a super smooth bottom, 439 00:21:28,433 --> 00:21:29,833 so feel about that, even better went there super smooth bottom. 440 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:32,800 And so as it slowly heated up, 441 00:21:34,833 --> 00:21:35,400 you would rub it up and against the silk. 442 00:21:37,166 --> 00:21:37,800 There's a 200 year old iron. 443 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:39,300 Strictly for silk. 444 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:42,800 Avi: Amazing. Matt: This is really really cool. 445 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,766 So like a kimono or a super high-end dress 446 00:21:45,766 --> 00:21:47,933 the technology is still completely valid, would work today. 447 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:51,033 We could literally get some coal out of the fireplace 448 00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:53,533 and go iron some silk shirt today with this. 449 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,366 Avi: Is this a Asian technique or? Matt: Yeah, is from China. 450 00:21:59,366 --> 00:22:01,400 This is, I mean, these are great, Chinese local markets is hot 451 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:06,600 and these will sell and bottom line what makes something valuable 452 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,000 there's not a lot of them and these are collectible and shippable 453 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,633 people forget that. 454 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:12,400 I can sell this anywhere in the world online. 455 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,066 [Music] 456 00:22:19,533 --> 00:22:19,733 Jamie: Hey, What do you think's in this chest? 457 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,866 Mike: There's got to be something good in here. 458 00:22:22,866 --> 00:22:25,100 - I love the cat pillow. Jamie: [Laughs] I know you do. 459 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:26,633 Mike: These are kind of neat baskets too. 460 00:22:28,366 --> 00:22:29,500 Jamie: Oh! Mike: Oh, man. 461 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,133 We better get Matt in here. 462 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:32,666 Jamie: Hey, Matt! 463 00:22:34,066 --> 00:22:36,266 Matt: It's good in bad when I hear my name on a job. 464 00:22:36,266 --> 00:22:37,333 Either means we found something really special for the client 465 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:39,600 or I'm gonna be spending money because we broke something. 466 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,633 Boom! 467 00:22:44,833 --> 00:22:46,033 Mike: Very careful. Matt: Don't touch the ground. 468 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,566 Oh my God, look at this, linen flag. 469 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,566 Do you know what's so cool about a linen flag? 470 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,566 Jamie: No. Matt: You can't fly it after Labor Day. 471 00:22:56,733 --> 00:22:59,533 [Laughs] 472 00:22:59,533 --> 00:23:00,000 Mike: Once we count the stars we can date it. 473 00:23:01,733 --> 00:23:04,133 And then hopefully find out some more information about it. 474 00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:06,100 Jamie: Oh, that's how they tell. 475 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,766 Mike: Aha, because as the States were added to the Union 476 00:23:08,766 --> 00:23:11,033 they added another star. Oh, look at this. 477 00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:12,600 Matt: Two, three, four, five, six, seven... 478 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:14,900 One, two, three, four... 479 00:23:16,766 --> 00:23:17,100 Mike: So it's like the top and the bottom have, eh... 480 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,833 Matt: So one, two, three... That's 28. Mike: 28. 481 00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:22,766 Both: Plus 16... 482 00:23:23,466 --> 00:23:24,666 Matt: 28 plus 16. 483 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:28,100 Mike: Oh, okay... yeah. Matt: Is, what? 484 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,033 Jamie: Eh, did both of y'all fail math? 485 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,033 - And history? Matt: Just, just history on my hand. 486 00:23:35,966 --> 00:23:37,866 Oh, yeah, there's 44. 487 00:23:37,866 --> 00:23:39,666 Jamie: So this predates six States being added to our flag. 488 00:23:40,833 --> 00:23:41,766 Now, what six States are they? 489 00:23:43,833 --> 00:23:46,300 Mike: I'm gonna say Alaska and Hawaii. Jamie: That's two. 490 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:47,300 Mike: Yeah. Jamie: Out of six, Matt? 491 00:23:49,433 --> 00:23:51,700 Matt: Eh... honestly I'm stumped. 492 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:53,900 I've never found a flag with 44 stars on it. 493 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:55,233 - And, eh... Jamie: And Google? 494 00:23:55,233 --> 00:23:57,600 Matt: Yeah. [Laughs] 495 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,266 We have to get back to this, I mean this is what's cool about Legacy List, 496 00:23:59,266 --> 00:24:00,400 you find something that's actual living history. 497 00:24:04,433 --> 00:24:05,433 Narrator: And living history it is 498 00:24:06,933 --> 00:24:08,400 because the states of the Union was constantly changing 499 00:24:09,666 --> 00:24:10,866 as more and more States continued to be added. 500 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,166 Lenis's linen flag 501 00:24:14,166 --> 00:24:18,033 dates from somewhere between 1891 when Wyoming was the 44th State 502 00:24:18,033 --> 00:24:20,766 and 1896 when Utah became the 45th State. 503 00:24:21,966 --> 00:24:23,466 After Utah was added next came Oklahoma, 504 00:24:24,766 --> 00:24:27,400 New Mexico, Arizona, Alaska, and finally Hawaii. 505 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,766 And a little-known facts about 1890s Wyoming 506 00:24:31,766 --> 00:24:34,033 which was the last star of Lenis's flag, 507 00:24:34,033 --> 00:24:35,900 it was the first state to allow women to vote 508 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,600 but lest you think this was just a progressive move for equality 509 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,300 many claim this was done to lure women there 510 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,666 who were outnumbered two to one by men at the time. 511 00:24:48,066 --> 00:24:51,733 The American flag first became official in 1777 512 00:24:51,733 --> 00:24:52,600 when the Continental Congress called for 513 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:56,433 "The flag to be made of 13 stripes of red and white 514 00:24:57,566 --> 00:24:59,533 with 13 stars white in a blue field 515 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,866 representing a new constellation." 516 00:25:03,733 --> 00:25:07,700 Anecdotal history says that Betsy Ross convinced George Washington 517 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,900 to make the Stars five-pointed instead of the six points he requested 518 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,866 so they would be easy for her to cut and sew. 519 00:25:17,033 --> 00:25:21,133 Wool, linen and silk became the primary flag making fabrics 520 00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:22,933 with linen being the most inexpensive and homespun. 521 00:25:24,866 --> 00:25:27,866 The American flag has had many incarnations over time. 522 00:25:27,866 --> 00:25:32,400 At one point even having 15 stars and stripes in 1795 523 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,233 and many changes for grandeur sake such as President Taft order in 1912, 524 00:25:37,233 --> 00:25:39,866 that a single point of every star must always be pointing upward to the heavens 525 00:25:41,733 --> 00:25:42,900 And our forefathers would be surprised to know 526 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,600 that today these stars and stripes 527 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,700 literally do shine upward among the stars 528 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,366 flying even in space with six U.S. flags mounted on the moon. 529 00:25:53,366 --> 00:25:55,033 [Music] 530 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,166 Matt: All right, we should kind of pause for a minute 531 00:26:03,166 --> 00:26:04,100 and really kind of rather than what we're holding here. 532 00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:06,633 This is a 130 year old flag. 533 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:08,966 It dates back to about 1890, 1891. 534 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:11,866 The fact that six States still didn't exist 535 00:26:13,766 --> 00:26:16,066 when this flag was made is pretty amazing. 536 00:26:18,033 --> 00:26:19,400 So I think about the people who made this who hand-stitched this. 537 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,400 Any flag we want to show the proper respect, 538 00:26:23,066 --> 00:26:24,033 but we really want to do this in the right care, I mean... 539 00:26:25,933 --> 00:26:26,633 This is living history this is what we're here to find. 540 00:26:28,066 --> 00:26:28,666 And it was something that was on her Legacy List. 541 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:31,566 Avi, you are an expert on military religious, 542 00:26:31,566 --> 00:26:32,066 how should we fold this properly? 543 00:26:33,933 --> 00:26:36,266 Avi: Yeah, this size flag I think for me they're two folds, 544 00:26:36,266 --> 00:26:37,633 so, Mike, just hold your end up, we want to make sure it doesn't touch the ground 545 00:26:39,133 --> 00:26:40,900 So we're gonna fold it to the top, there you go Mike. 546 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:41,566 All right, so we're gonna bring your stars up. 547 00:26:44,666 --> 00:26:45,733 Got to be very careful because this material 548 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,500 is not typical of our current Flags. 549 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,400 This linen is a very delicate. 550 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,066 I'm gonna do thirteen folds representing the thirteen colonies. 551 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,133 Matt: I mean what is pretty on a sight like this 552 00:26:58,133 --> 00:26:59,566 it's hard not to think about what was this place like in 1890 553 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:02,733 Mike: And think about who fought for. Matt: Yeah! 554 00:27:04,933 --> 00:27:05,366 Mike: This country to get to this point. Matt: Yeah! Oh, yeah. 555 00:27:06,766 --> 00:27:09,533 Matt: We definitely forget what people went through 556 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,800 just to get to 44 States. 557 00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:14,733 Avi: This is amazing to behold in this way right now. 558 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:17,966 Mike: I've got chills. 559 00:27:19,833 --> 00:27:20,100 Matt: That's because it's cold. 560 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,466 Matt: All right, let's get inside to find other items. 561 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,266 Team: Let's do it. Awesome, let's do it. 562 00:27:25,266 --> 00:27:26,733 [Music] 563 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:31,700 Avi: Hey, what do you got? 564 00:27:33,333 --> 00:27:36,966 Jamie: Oh, my gosh! I have got so many amazing photos. 565 00:27:38,833 --> 00:27:41,033 This is literally a time capsule of this family's life. 566 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,633 I mean some of these photos have to be like over a hundred years old 567 00:27:46,166 --> 00:27:48,200 and like a lot of them have stuff written on the back. 568 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,900 Avi: It's cool that she's labeled everything. 569 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,966 There's so many families we find they don't do that. 570 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:53,700 Matt: Hey, Mike, come here help me clean all this stuff off. 571 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:55,366 [Music] 572 00:28:02,633 --> 00:28:05,133 Oh yeah, this is literally a treasure chest we're looking at here. 573 00:28:05,133 --> 00:28:05,766 - This is amazing. Mike: Oh my gosh! 574 00:28:07,233 --> 00:28:09,166 There could be some really special fans in here, Matt. 575 00:28:09,166 --> 00:28:11,800 - Look at that. Matt: Wow! 576 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,266 Mike: Maybe we should do is just kind of gather them up 577 00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:15,033 and get them downstairs where we can spread them out. 578 00:28:15,033 --> 00:28:15,166 - and take it better look. Matt: Okay, right, let's do it. 579 00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:18,400 All right, we got our fans. 580 00:28:19,633 --> 00:28:22,266 What am I looking at here? 581 00:28:22,266 --> 00:28:26,366 Mike: There's Asian fans, there's French fans and everything in between. 582 00:28:26,366 --> 00:28:29,966 I mean you're lucky if you find one of these fans and a house let alone 15. 583 00:28:29,966 --> 00:28:31,900 Matt: All I know about fans is that they keep cool. 584 00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:32,666 Mike: Well that is their chief purpose. 585 00:28:34,066 --> 00:28:36,466 But besides that they were used for religious services, 586 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,833 they were used to shield yourself from the rain, 587 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:41,033 they were used as dance cards. 588 00:28:42,666 --> 00:28:42,800 Matt: Some would walk around like this. 589 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:45,766 Mike: Not with that one, but yes. 590 00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:46,133 Matt: All right, I'm ready to dance. 591 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,400 - Let's do this. [Laughs] 592 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:49,966 Matt: I'm the guy. 593 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,333 Mike: We've got a collection of Asian fans. 594 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,566 This one here, a fan of a thousand faces. 595 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,700 This is just a depiction of daily life 596 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:00,466 - And it's telling stories. Matt: Telling stories. 597 00:29:01,933 --> 00:29:02,900 Mike: A couple of their Asian fans right here hand-painted 598 00:29:03,733 --> 00:29:04,700 on peacock feathers. 599 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,433 Most of these are from the 1800s 600 00:29:09,166 --> 00:29:11,633 and actually believe this fan is from the late 1700s. 601 00:29:11,633 --> 00:29:13,833 Matt: So that's 300 years old. Mike: Yeah. 602 00:29:13,833 --> 00:29:16,200 It's a French fan, paper, I believe ivory inlay in here. 603 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,566 It's actually depicting the first manned hot air balloon flight. 604 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,400 Montgolfier is the term for hot air balloon in France 605 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,100 Named after the brothers that invented the hot air balloon. 606 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,200 This was a souvenir, if you want to think of it that way. 607 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,433 Matt: Okay... Because if you could afford to travel 300 years ago 608 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,000 - you were bragging about it. Mike: Yeah. 609 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,333 Matt: Any cash in this? Mike: Oh, for sure. 610 00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:38,700 Some of these fans are worth hundreds of dollars. 611 00:29:40,166 --> 00:29:41,133 Matt: Lenis continues to be a fascinating woman, man. 612 00:29:42,866 --> 00:29:43,466 I think she's just got a bunch of stuff in drawers 613 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,033 and there's a couple grand on this table. 614 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,066 Mike: Could be 615 00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:53,433 Jamie: Oh, my gosh! 616 00:29:54,733 --> 00:29:56,933 This photo is the house obviously, right? 617 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,700 And I think this may be the original owner of the house. 618 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 And we actually found, I think, what is this exact dress 619 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,933 as well as the hoop skirt. 620 00:30:09,133 --> 00:30:10,633 Avi: It's unbelievable. 621 00:30:10,633 --> 00:30:12,733 Jamie: I cannot wait to show this to them. 622 00:30:12,733 --> 00:30:14,600 Avi: She's gonna love that. 623 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,033 Jamie: This is probably my favorite part about doing these projects. 624 00:30:18,033 --> 00:30:21,333 Is really getting to look through the family history 625 00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,566 Avi: You learn so much about people and their families and their legacy. 626 00:30:25,766 --> 00:30:26,800 Jamie: Oh, this is so cool. What is that, metal? 627 00:30:28,633 --> 00:30:29,400 Avi: Yeah, it feels like tin. Jamie: Is there anything on the back? 628 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:30,966 Avi: Nothing on the back. 629 00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:34,433 But I'm sure she'd love to have it, what do you think? 630 00:30:34,433 --> 00:30:34,800 Jamie: I think so too. 631 00:30:39,766 --> 00:30:41,266 Matt: If there's one thing for certain 632 00:30:41,266 --> 00:30:43,533 is the client wants to know that everything is going well. 633 00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:44,633 So they're always gonna stop by at some point. 634 00:30:46,633 --> 00:30:47,766 Lenis: Oh! Take a look! Avi: How are you? 635 00:30:48,666 --> 00:30:50,700 Lenis: Oh my gosh! Look in here. 636 00:30:51,833 --> 00:30:53,600 - Matt! Matt: Hello, hello! 637 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,333 Lenis: Hi! Matt: How are you? 638 00:30:55,333 --> 00:30:57,100 Lenis: You've been busy, I feel proud. 639 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:57,833 Matt: We've been very busy. Good to see you, how are you? 640 00:30:59,033 --> 00:31:01,400 Lenis: Oh, Matt, this is my daughter, Angelica. 641 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,566 Matt: Angelica, nice to meet you. Angelica: Nice to meet you. 642 00:31:02,566 --> 00:31:03,600 Matt: Very good to meet you. 643 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,366 Moving is such a big deal! 644 00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:08,566 It'’’s pretty common for the family members to come along as well 645 00:31:08,566 --> 00:31:10,166 just to see how everything's going. 646 00:31:10,166 --> 00:31:13,300 Lenis: Well, we just happen to be in the neighborhood. 647 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:14,066 Matt: [Laughs] You just happen to be-- Lenis: Happen to be in the neighborhood. 648 00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:17,566 So I thought we'd kind of check up on you and see what's... 649 00:31:19,033 --> 00:31:20,733 Matt: Are you feeling little nervous maybe? 650 00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:21,533 Lenis: A little nervous. Matt: Okay. 651 00:31:23,366 --> 00:31:25,033 You got a bunch of people in your house going through your stuff... 652 00:31:25,033 --> 00:31:26,933 - Of 30 years. [Laughs] Lenis: Right. 653 00:31:26,933 --> 00:31:27,533 Matt: So we've found a lot of great stuff. 654 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Lenis: Oh, well, that's really exciting. 655 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,466 Matt: You have lived in amazing life 656 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,400 and we're finding history of it all over the place. 657 00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:39,033 Angelica: You know Matt, the reason why I wanted to come along tonight 658 00:31:39,033 --> 00:31:42,033 was because there are a couple of things that I would like you to find. 659 00:31:42,033 --> 00:31:44,033 That maybe my mom hadn't mentioned before in previous conversations. 660 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:48,333 My grandmother passed on to my mother her doll collection. 661 00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:53,933 And I just have memories as a child of her showing them to me 662 00:31:53,933 --> 00:31:55,533 and I want to be able to do that with my daughters. 663 00:31:56,733 --> 00:31:57,433 Matt: Five generation dolls. Angelica: Yes. 664 00:31:59,466 --> 00:32:02,200 Mat: Let me see we do and hopefully I'll find everything you guys want. 665 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,000 Angelica: Right, great to meet you Matt. Matt: Really good to meet you too. 666 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,966 You know, that's what's so great about the legacy list 667 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,766 is helping people connect their memories with these found items. 668 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,800 So I'm happy to add Angelica's item to this list 669 00:32:12,366 --> 00:32:13,933 but the challenges is I've only got tomorrow to find it. 670 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,433 So I'm helping a family downsize. 671 00:32:22,433 --> 00:32:24,466 They have to decide maybe what 25% of the items they're gonna take with them. 672 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,366 And it's important to know, sometimes, what the financial value is 673 00:32:29,366 --> 00:32:31,066 before they can make the actual physical decision on what's going to go. 674 00:32:32,633 --> 00:32:34,966 So I called in my good friend Lex Reeves 675 00:32:34,966 --> 00:32:36,533 who is the top expert in the field of fine art and antiquities. 676 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,866 All right I want to start over at my favorite piece. 677 00:32:39,866 --> 00:32:40,066 - Over here. Lex: Okay, all right. 678 00:32:41,066 --> 00:32:41,500 Let's take a look. 679 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,466 It's it's an American clock its Roxbury School for sure. 680 00:32:46,466 --> 00:32:47,033 Matt: Which means, what? 681 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,500 Lex: Well Roxbury Massachusetts was an area 682 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:55,566 where a lot of clock makers of the 18th and early 19th century worked. 683 00:32:55,566 --> 00:32:58,466 Matt: She had family in Boston, 1800s. Lex: Okay. 684 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,133 Matt: And this was custom made for someone in her family. 685 00:33:03,133 --> 00:33:03,433 Lex: In her family, okay. Well that makes sense, 686 00:33:04,933 --> 00:33:06,200 when these clocks were made it was kind of like a car. 687 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,566 You could pick out certain qualities of the lock. 688 00:33:09,566 --> 00:33:11,333 It could be a 30-day clock, 689 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:12,766 it could be an eight-day clock, this is a 30-day clock. 690 00:33:13,966 --> 00:33:15,666 Matt: It's funny what you're saying is right, 691 00:33:15,666 --> 00:33:16,700 it whatever you ordered they put on this inside board. 692 00:33:18,433 --> 00:33:20,633 Lex: It actually right here, if you look closely it says S. Willard, 693 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,200 and Simon is one of the preeminent most important 694 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,133 late 18th early 19th century Roxbury makers. 695 00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:29,300 Simon Willard was actually friends with Thomas Jefferson. 696 00:33:30,833 --> 00:33:32,466 Willard ended up doing clocks at UVA capital... 697 00:33:33,966 --> 00:33:34,933 So he's really an important clock maker. 698 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:36,833 Matt: Now, is this a Simon Willard? 699 00:33:39,433 --> 00:33:41,366 Lex: Usually would be on the clock face, it would say Simon Willard Roxbury. 700 00:33:43,733 --> 00:33:45,166 But Willard worked on other people's clocks, 701 00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:47,166 and when a clock was worked on, 702 00:33:47,166 --> 00:33:49,100 the clock maker would put his name on the inside, 703 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:49,500 - so that's a possibility. Matt: Okay. 704 00:33:50,233 --> 00:33:50,633 Lex: It's a nice clock. 705 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:53,666 Matt: Now, big question, what's it worth? 706 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:55,900 Lex: I would conservatively say somewhere in the... 707 00:33:57,166 --> 00:33:59,100 - $4,500 range. Matt: Okay. 708 00:33:59,100 --> 00:33:59,533 Lex: We're between 4000 and 5000. Matt: Okay. 709 00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:05,133 Matt: All right, I got one other cool item over here I want you to see. 710 00:34:07,233 --> 00:34:12,566 Lex: For looking at a "Famille verte", which means green family in French. 711 00:34:12,566 --> 00:34:15,200 And that was a term that was given obviously much later by collectors. 712 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,633 Matt: Yeah, this doesn't look French to me. 713 00:34:16,633 --> 00:34:18,433 Lex: It is not. Matt: Okay. 714 00:34:18,433 --> 00:34:20,900 Lex: It's in fact Chinese and it's in the Kangxi style or period. 715 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,233 That is the Kangxi mark, Kangxi was the emperor. 716 00:34:25,233 --> 00:34:29,800 All these are symbols of Chinese, prosperity the fishes, 717 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,200 for wealth the frog, that's protection, 718 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,533 and the Dragons are for power and for prosperity. 719 00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:40,833 I think this is actually a 19th century version of an 18th century Kangxi period 720 00:34:40,833 --> 00:34:41,933 so I think it's a hundred years later. 721 00:34:43,266 --> 00:34:45,200 And if you look closely right here, 722 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,833 this is where it's been restored. It's been broken. 723 00:34:48,066 --> 00:34:49,000 Matt: So let me tell you the story she told me. 724 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,566 Lex: Okay. 725 00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:56,433 Matt. She bought it right after college at a flea market in Paris. 726 00:34:56,433 --> 00:34:57,900 Lex: Okay. Matt: For one dollar. 727 00:34:59,466 --> 00:35:00,933 Lex: Seriously? Matt: Seriously. 728 00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:03,033 She said it was broken into three pieces. 729 00:35:03,033 --> 00:35:04,433 Lex: Okay. Matt: And she carried it in her backpack 730 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,900 back to America. It adds up to everything you just said? 731 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:11,200 Lex: Eh, in the 60s just the fact that you paid a dollar, 732 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,900 I mean it should have been much more expensive than that. 733 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:14,900 So it's a find even as it was then. 734 00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:18,633 I would say, at an auction something like this could bring... 735 00:35:20,933 --> 00:35:23,133 1,500 to 2,000 dollars, even in this particular condition. 736 00:35:24,866 --> 00:35:26,300 - So, a dollar find to that-- Matt: Sure, right. 737 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,766 Lex: She has a great eye, from everything that I'm seeing. 738 00:35:29,666 --> 00:35:30,066 She's got a wonderful eye. 739 00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:35,466 Matt: So, I think it's obvious what we're looking at here. 740 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,466 Lex: Wow, that's, that's monumental. 741 00:35:38,466 --> 00:35:40,600 Matt: Finally in the kitchen, 742 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,466 the one big item I'm hopeful that will make Lenis a lot of money. 743 00:35:43,666 --> 00:35:45,100 Lex: What did the owner have to say about it? 744 00:35:46,433 --> 00:35:47,000 Matt: She said it was a big painting. Lex: Okay. [Laughs] 745 00:35:48,833 --> 00:35:50,700 Matt: She's not sure what it is, she thinks it's a Bierstadt. 746 00:35:52,166 --> 00:35:52,500 Lex: Okay, Albert Bierstadt. 747 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,733 Well, Albert Bierstadt is an artists that I know really well. 748 00:35:57,433 --> 00:36:00,666 He was a German American and was known for scenes of the American West. 749 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:05,100 Matt: Fingers crossed this items gonna make her big big bucks. 750 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,433 Lex: He would paint monumental pictures like this 751 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:08,700 and he would actually charge a fee 752 00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:12,733 for people to come in and look at these paintings. 753 00:36:12,733 --> 00:36:14,033 It was a way of showing the West before people could go out west. 754 00:36:15,833 --> 00:36:16,900 Right away I can tell you 755 00:36:18,266 --> 00:36:18,833 confidently 756 00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:21,133 unequivocally 757 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:23,866 it's not an Albert Bierstadt. 758 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:28,833 Mat: How do you know that? 759 00:36:28,833 --> 00:36:30,666 Lex: Bierstadt was a proponent of the Dusseldorf school 760 00:36:32,566 --> 00:36:35,033 and artists that came out of that school were very highly detailed painters. 761 00:36:36,666 --> 00:36:38,633 So when they painted a tree you saw each leaf, 762 00:36:40,033 --> 00:36:40,900 you even saw each little piece of bark. 763 00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:42,933 And if you look at this picture, 764 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,466 it's very painterly, it's not highly detailed. 765 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,033 Bierstadt would have actually spent time on that bird 766 00:36:50,033 --> 00:36:52,133 where you could see its eyeballs 767 00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:54,000 and you'd be able to see the plumage and everything else. 768 00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,066 But it's unfortunately not an Albert Bierstadt. 769 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,333 Matt: How much would this painting go for? 770 00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:05,633 Lex: If this were a Bierstadt, you're looking at if it were an American scene, 771 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,533 30 million dollars or something crazy in this market. 772 00:37:11,266 --> 00:37:12,766 Of this size, I think you can expect it to bring 773 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,700 two thousand to five thousand, might be. 774 00:37:17,966 --> 00:37:20,566 Matt: That's a bummer, man, twenty-five hundred versus 30 million 775 00:37:20,566 --> 00:37:21,000 there's a little difference there. 776 00:37:22,433 --> 00:37:23,800 Sometimes big is just big. 777 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,466 [Music] 778 00:37:34,533 --> 00:37:37,933 I found so much stuff in the Attics... 779 00:37:37,933 --> 00:37:40,933 You find old clothes, you find old love letters, 780 00:37:40,933 --> 00:37:43,766 you find lots of secrets, you name it we find it. 781 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,400 You find every... 782 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,966 type of neck brace ever made for travel. 783 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:55,100 This is why people get stuck from moving 784 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,133 because they have rooms and rooms and rooms of all the stuff. 785 00:37:57,133 --> 00:37:58,966 Jamie: Yeah, you put it up here and then you don't-- 786 00:37:58,966 --> 00:37:59,366 Matt: You don't think about it. Jamie: You don't think about it. 787 00:38:04,633 --> 00:38:05,966 Costume jewelry. Matt: Costume jewelry to sell. 788 00:38:08,066 --> 00:38:09,066 What she would call costume jewelry... 789 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,400 Eh, is not what you and I would call costume jewelry. 790 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,866 Jamie: Right. Matt: Junk from Miss Lenis 791 00:38:15,866 --> 00:38:16,766 is very nice for you and I. 792 00:38:20,666 --> 00:38:22,033 There it is, holy cow! Jamie: Oh, wow! 793 00:38:23,666 --> 00:38:24,566 Matt: All right this-- Jamie: This is a train car. 794 00:38:26,366 --> 00:38:28,433 Matt: I'm pretty sure this's the traincar it was looking for a L & N Car. 795 00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:30,733 Jamie: L & N. Matt: There is L & N. 796 00:38:32,766 --> 00:38:35,833 Her grandfather worked on the line which is a Louisville and Nashville line 797 00:38:35,833 --> 00:38:37,233 and we'll just go to Louisville Nashville, 798 00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:38,400 and that's the actual line that he worked on. 799 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,066 [Music] 800 00:38:44,333 --> 00:38:46,066 Narrator: Like many rapidly expanding American cities of the 1800s 801 00:38:48,166 --> 00:38:49,633 Louisville, Kentucky and Nashville, Tennessee 802 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,133 found themselves in desperate need of better transportation 803 00:38:54,433 --> 00:38:58,433 so between 1850 and 1851 charters were granted creating the L & N railroad. 804 00:39:00,166 --> 00:39:01,233 Costing three million dollars to construct, 805 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,533 the L & N made its first run in 1859 806 00:39:05,533 --> 00:39:08,066 of a 187 miles from Louisville all the way to Nashville. 807 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:17,066 By the Civil War the L & N railroad expanded to 269 miles of track 808 00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:20,700 and was actually caught in the middle between the Union and the Confederacy 809 00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:26,233 pressed into service at various times by both armies 810 00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:30,100 the L & N ultimately benefited profiting from northern troop polish contracts 811 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,333 that were paid in Union greenbacks 812 00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:33,500 rather than the depreciating Confederate dollars. 813 00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:41,433 After the war the L & N thrived in both passenger and freight transport 814 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,333 becoming one of Louisville's largest employers 815 00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:47,466 with more than 10,000 men and women in the 1930s. 816 00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:55,200 One of the most intriguing Train Robbery sagas of the late 1800s 817 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,266 centered around the L & N, the legend of Railroad Bill, 818 00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:02,400 who allegedly robbed the trains distributing the loot among the poor 819 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,766 was notorious for abating capture more than a dozen times. 820 00:40:06,866 --> 00:40:11,633 By the summer of 1895 reward for his capture reached 1250 dollars, 821 00:40:11,633 --> 00:40:13,000 and shortly thereafter he was shot and killed. 822 00:40:17,533 --> 00:40:19,833 The L & N was one of the biggest success stories in American business history, 823 00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:25,633 operating through multiple Wars and under one name for 132 years. 824 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:29,466 Old and reliable, as the L & N railroad came to be called, 825 00:40:30,666 --> 00:40:33,300 road to over 6,000 miles of track 826 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,033 and became a rich source of American railroad history. 827 00:40:36,033 --> 00:40:37,566 [Train horn] 828 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:43,100 Matt: Really good grassman ship. 829 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:43,900 These doors actually do work. 830 00:40:46,633 --> 00:40:47,066 Jamie: Is something in there? Matt: And there was a key in there. 831 00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:48,933 Jamie: I wonder what is that to? 832 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,400 Matt: This is an actual key that's the actual railroad that he worked 833 00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:58,900 and he left it for her inside the toy railroad, how cool is that! 834 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:00,733 Jamie: Do you think she remembers that that's in there? 835 00:41:00,733 --> 00:41:03,100 Matt: She did not ask me for this she only asked me to find this. 836 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:03,833 I don't know if she even knows this is in here. 837 00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:07,900 This was the last item on Lenis's Legacy List. 838 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:08,733 I know she's gonna be really excited that we found it. 839 00:41:10,433 --> 00:41:14,366 But there's still one item left that Angelica added to the list 840 00:41:14,366 --> 00:41:15,000 and we're quickly approaching the end of that three-day deadline. 841 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,500 Jamie: I'm interested in what is in these drawers. 842 00:41:24,166 --> 00:41:25,233 Mike: In a way they're kind of little time capsules. 843 00:41:25,233 --> 00:41:25,766 Jamie: Yeah. 844 00:41:27,133 --> 00:41:29,733 Looks like this was kind of used as their catch-all. 845 00:41:30,466 --> 00:41:31,833 Looks like old mail. 846 00:41:32,666 --> 00:41:34,933 Oh, that's a cool--Wow! 847 00:41:36,466 --> 00:41:40,033 Look at these, a drawer full of old dolls. 848 00:41:40,033 --> 00:41:41,466 Mike: Wow! Just be real careful when you pull them out. 849 00:41:42,666 --> 00:41:44,433 We don't know what kind of shape they're in 850 00:41:44,433 --> 00:41:47,133 so just kind of hold them just like you might a real baby. 851 00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:47,533 Jamie: Like a real baby. 852 00:41:48,966 --> 00:41:51,600 Angelica was hoping to have them found 853 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,966 so she could share them with her children. 854 00:41:54,466 --> 00:41:55,566 Oh, this one's eyes just opened! 855 00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,533 Mike: Yeah, it's a sleepy eyed doll. 856 00:41:58,533 --> 00:42:01,666 As you tilt her head back and and lift her up rise open and shut, 857 00:42:01,666 --> 00:42:02,466 it's called sleepy eyes. 858 00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:06,500 Jamie: I don't really know a lot about these dolls. 859 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:07,766 Can you break them down? 860 00:42:08,933 --> 00:42:10,133 Mike: Yeah, this doll actually has jointed legs. 861 00:42:11,666 --> 00:42:15,166 The joints were really interesting innovation 862 00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:18,500 because it allowed more posing of the doll and it made more lifelike. 863 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,900 So this doll, she actually had pearl earrings she appears to be missing one. 864 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:24,533 But she's got a beautiful matching pearl necklace. 865 00:42:24,533 --> 00:42:26,533 Jamie: Yeah. Mike: This is a doll from the 1950s. 866 00:42:26,533 --> 00:42:27,600 It's a fashion Cindy doll. 867 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:32,166 - She has real pantyhose Jamie: Wow! 868 00:42:32,166 --> 00:42:35,100 Their fashion was current with what actual people were wearing at the time. 869 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:38,300 Mike: Yeah, this is the biggest doll the largest doll. 870 00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:39,533 - I mean, she's really quite special. Jamie: She was the belle of the ball. 871 00:42:40,666 --> 00:42:41,300 Mike: Indeed. Jamie: The biggest belle of the ball. 872 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:43,433 [Laughs] 873 00:42:43,433 --> 00:42:45,266 Mike: We've got painted toenails, 874 00:42:45,266 --> 00:42:46,733 articulated bows and joint knees, 875 00:42:47,433 --> 00:42:48,500 hands and elbows. 876 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,666 Jamie: Do you know when she was made? 877 00:42:51,666 --> 00:42:53,366 Mike: Either in the late 1800s Early 1900s. 878 00:42:54,866 --> 00:42:55,966 - Here we have a "stole". Jamie: That feels real. 879 00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,133 Mike: It made your doll head and shoulders 880 00:42:59,133 --> 00:42:59,933 above your friends doll. 881 00:43:01,266 --> 00:43:02,166 Jamie: You're very knowledgeable about dolls. 882 00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:03,833 [Laughs] 883 00:43:07,266 --> 00:43:10,800 Matt: After three days of sorting sifting impacting 884 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,766 6,000 square feet and a lifetime worth of family heirlooms and memories, 885 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,133 it's finally time to have Lenis come back to see her house 886 00:43:18,766 --> 00:43:19,933 as it was before she made it her home. 887 00:43:22,666 --> 00:43:23,833 Lenis: Hi, Matt! Matt: Hi, ladies, how are you? 888 00:43:25,133 --> 00:43:25,466 Angelica: How are you? Lenis: Here we are. 889 00:43:26,633 --> 00:43:27,433 Matt: I'm happy to see you. Lenis: Yeah. 890 00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:31,566 - And you remember Angelica. Matt: Angelica, good to see you. 891 00:43:31,566 --> 00:43:32,966 Angelica: Good to see you, Matt. Matt: How are you? 892 00:43:32,966 --> 00:43:34,833 - All right, we've done a lot of work. Lenis: Okay. 893 00:43:34,833 --> 00:43:36,566 Excited to show you and it's cold so let's dig in. 894 00:43:36,566 --> 00:43:36,933 Angelica: Okay, great. 895 00:43:40,866 --> 00:43:41,633 Lenis: Oh my gosh! 896 00:43:43,133 --> 00:43:44,066 - Angelica, look at this. Angelica: Wow! 897 00:43:45,366 --> 00:43:47,133 Mom, are you feeling okay? 898 00:43:49,033 --> 00:43:52,533 Lenis: Yeah, I'm okay I can see why I love this house from the very Get go. 899 00:43:55,966 --> 00:43:58,600 And you've packed it all up, I cannot believe it it is such a relief. 900 00:44:00,166 --> 00:44:03,566 I am so excited to be able to move on. 901 00:44:04,533 --> 00:44:05,700 Oh my gosh! 902 00:44:07,233 --> 00:44:09,833 My library! Where are all the books? [Laughs] 903 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:13,100 Matt: This was the hardest room, where the most men to work in here. 904 00:44:14,733 --> 00:44:15,566 Eh, this is, this was the main room I think you live in. 905 00:44:17,133 --> 00:44:18,000 But this was a cozy room you could tell. 906 00:44:19,633 --> 00:44:22,733 Angelica: Well, as a child growing up we'd all hunker in on the sofa 907 00:44:22,733 --> 00:44:25,533 and sit down and watch TV my step-dad might put a fire on 908 00:44:25,533 --> 00:44:27,933 and the wood stove and we just, 909 00:44:27,933 --> 00:44:29,766 it would be very cozy, very cozy. 910 00:44:31,366 --> 00:44:31,966 Lenis: It's a little different. 911 00:44:33,666 --> 00:44:35,433 I mean a library without books 912 00:44:35,433 --> 00:44:37,133 is kind of you know, 913 00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:38,766 like doesn't have a soul. 914 00:44:40,666 --> 00:44:42,933 It needs... needs someone else to fill it up again. 915 00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:44,066 Yeah. 916 00:44:45,433 --> 00:44:47,333 Matt: Such was the past-- Lenis: Yes. 917 00:44:47,333 --> 00:44:48,533 Matt: Let's walk towards the future, 918 00:44:48,533 --> 00:44:50,200 I've got a few items that I was able to find. 919 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,233 Lenis: Oh! well, I think that would lift the mood. 920 00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:56,500 Matt: I think so, so let's get sit on and we can go through all this items. 921 00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:56,633 Angelica: All right, let's go. Lenis: All right. 922 00:45:01,366 --> 00:45:03,233 Matt It's always a whirlwind for families at this point in the process. 923 00:45:03,233 --> 00:45:06,333 It's a mix of grief and relief. 924 00:45:06,333 --> 00:45:07,766 They're so glad that they're through this massive hurdle, 925 00:45:09,266 --> 00:45:10,666 but they are sad that they're leaving a home of 30 years. 926 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,900 And that's why my favorite part of the process 927 00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:16,633 is presenting them with their Legacy List items, 928 00:45:16,633 --> 00:45:18,900 to help remind them that the memories live on no matter where they go. 929 00:45:20,666 --> 00:45:21,433 Just want to thank you first of all. 930 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,000 It's an honor to go through your house. 931 00:45:25,366 --> 00:45:25,900 And so we appreciate the trust. 932 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,033 You are such a historian your family. 933 00:45:30,033 --> 00:45:32,600 And it was just a joy 934 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,066 to find some of the things I found. 935 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,033 Before we get to Legacy List items, 936 00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:38,666 I want to show you a few things that we found along the way 937 00:45:38,666 --> 00:45:39,066 that I know you'll be excited about. 938 00:45:39,733 --> 00:45:40,400 This... 939 00:45:41,366 --> 00:45:43,700 is a very old photo 940 00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:45,466 of this house! that we're standing. 941 00:45:45,466 --> 00:45:47,133 [She sighs] 942 00:45:47,133 --> 00:45:47,966 You're right original shutters. 943 00:45:49,266 --> 00:45:49,700 - They're still here. Lenis: Original shutters. 944 00:45:51,533 --> 00:45:53,733 It's so beautiful with the horses they've got full-length dresses on. 945 00:45:54,633 --> 00:45:56,100 Matt: Here's the cool thing, 946 00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,733 we found a hoop skirt upstairs in the Attic 947 00:46:00,566 --> 00:46:03,066 and I do think, I can't guarantee it's this dress. 948 00:46:04,533 --> 00:46:04,766 Angelica: I've never seen it before. 949 00:46:05,833 --> 00:46:07,733 Matt: It's 140 years old. 950 00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:08,366 Angelica: Oh, my goodness. 951 00:46:10,266 --> 00:46:11,033 - I'm so glad you found this for mom. Matt: That's really really cool. 952 00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:14,366 Angelica: Just for the house to come full circle for her. 953 00:46:15,966 --> 00:46:17,733 Matt: I'm gonna ask you close your eyes for me, please. 954 00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:18,033 Angelica: Okay, both of us? Matt: Yes. 955 00:46:19,666 --> 00:46:20,066 Angelica: Okay. Lenis: Close your eyes. 956 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,700 Angelica: I'm really curious, Matt. Lenis: I know. 957 00:46:24,733 --> 00:46:25,600 Matt: Okay ladies, open your eyes. 958 00:46:26,233 --> 00:46:28,800 Both: Oh! 959 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,633 Matt: The fans. Angelica: Oh my word! 960 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,566 Matt: We learned a lot about fans. 961 00:46:34,566 --> 00:46:35,733 So this one's 300 years old 962 00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:37,800 the rest of these are about 200 years old. 963 00:46:39,766 --> 00:46:40,933 So there's Asian fans, there's European fans, French fans. 964 00:46:42,566 --> 00:46:45,133 - Oh! Matt: This is one we had flamingos, 965 00:46:45,133 --> 00:46:47,733 we had ostrich, this is actually the oldest fan we had. 966 00:46:47,733 --> 00:46:48,866 A really nice fan, original ivory. 967 00:46:50,333 --> 00:46:51,900 Now a lot of these fans are falling apart. 968 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,000 Lenis: Yeah. Matt: But this is 300 years old! 969 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,066 - It's going to! Angelica: I don't know 970 00:46:55,066 --> 00:46:57,000 how it survived 300 years. 971 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,333 Matt: I'm 43 and I'm falling apart. [Laughs] 972 00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:01,100 Okay, so I can't imagine, I mean, you kept this for that long time. 973 00:47:02,433 --> 00:47:03,500 Lenis: Oh, this is another French one. 974 00:47:04,733 --> 00:47:06,566 Both: Oh! Lenis: Isn't that lovely? 975 00:47:08,266 --> 00:47:10,466 Angelica: So it's beautiful. Lenis: So exquisite. 976 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,633 How can you top that? 977 00:47:13,633 --> 00:47:14,466 Matt: Well, I'll show you. 978 00:47:15,566 --> 00:47:16,266 This is why we do what we do. 979 00:47:17,333 --> 00:47:17,900 It's Legacy List time. 980 00:47:19,533 --> 00:47:20,700 Angelica: What on earth is that? 981 00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:21,533 Lenis: It's a case 982 00:47:23,266 --> 00:47:25,666 for a little enameled box 983 00:47:27,733 --> 00:47:29,100 that supports a piece of jade. 984 00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:32,066 Angelica: Oh, my goodness. Matt: No, Lenis isn't that. 985 00:47:32,066 --> 00:47:33,333 - It's not just a piece of jade. Lenis: Jade. [Laughs] 986 00:47:33,333 --> 00:47:33,700 Matt: It's an incredible piece of jade. 987 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,033 We do think it's about 200 years old. 988 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:37,666 Lenis: You know. Matt: That's amazing. 989 00:47:38,766 --> 00:47:39,666 The carving is spectacular. 990 00:47:41,666 --> 00:47:42,966 You're starting to see a lot of ancient collections have the same symbology. 991 00:47:44,233 --> 00:47:45,533 Angelica: It's just gorgeous! 992 00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:46,433 And once again, growing up... 993 00:47:47,766 --> 00:47:50,133 [Lenis laughs] If I saw this sitting on a shelf 994 00:47:50,133 --> 00:47:50,500 I would just pass it over. 995 00:47:52,166 --> 00:47:53,600 Matt: Your mom's got something from a Chinese emperor 200 years ago. 996 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,833 - That's, that's pretty spectacular. Angelica: It is! 997 00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:01,700 Lenis: What is there more? Matt: There is more. 998 00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:02,900 Lens: I can't believe it. Angelica: Surely, they can't be. 999 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:04,600 Both: Oh! Matt: So, hands everybody... 1000 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,633 - Great dolls. Angela: You know, Matt, 1001 00:48:08,633 --> 00:48:11,633 when I was a young girl my grandmother would pull me into the dining room 1002 00:48:11,633 --> 00:48:14,266 and she would uncover her dolls 1003 00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,266 - and it was almost a sacred ceremony. Lenis: Right. 1004 00:48:16,266 --> 00:48:16,966 Angela: That we do every visit. 1005 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,300 Matt: So you remember these dolls. 1006 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:21,400 Angela: I remember these dolls 1007 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,666 and they're just they bring back to some really precious memories. 1008 00:48:25,033 --> 00:48:27,166 Matt: Five generations. Lenis: Aha. 1009 00:48:27,166 --> 00:48:27,400 Matt: That you have these dolls. Lenis: My gosh! It seems like a long-- 1010 00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:29,966 That seems like a lot! Does it? 1011 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,166 Angelica: And my grandmother really treasured her dolls. 1012 00:48:34,166 --> 00:48:34,866 Lenis: She did, she loved them. Angelica: She treasured her dolls. 1013 00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,200 Lenis: She would never let me have them. 1014 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,833 Angelica: She was very possessive of her dolls. 1015 00:48:40,833 --> 00:48:43,066 They were her prized possessions 1016 00:48:43,066 --> 00:48:44,733 and they're worthy to be treasured today. 1017 00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:48,500 Matt: This next item is actually amazing. 1018 00:48:50,166 --> 00:48:50,966 Angelica: Really? Matt: I never seen anything like this. 1019 00:48:53,366 --> 00:48:56,066 When you put it on the Legacy List, I didn'’’t really think a whole lot about it. 1020 00:48:56,066 --> 00:48:58,000 And then when we found it and really started researching it, 1021 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,866 - it blew me away. Lenis: Wander what it is. 1022 00:48:59,866 --> 00:49:00,666 Angelica: I'm very intrigued, Matt. 1023 00:49:02,933 --> 00:49:04,766 Lenis: Ah! Matt: This is the linen flag. 1024 00:49:05,533 --> 00:49:06,533 Lenis: Oh, yes. 1025 00:49:08,133 --> 00:49:12,000 Matt: This flag has 44 stars on it. 1026 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,633 Lenis: Oh! Angelica: My goodness! 1027 00:49:14,133 --> 00:49:17,600 Matt: This flag its first initiation was July 4th 1891. 1028 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:20,800 Lenis: Oh, that's just beautiful. Matt: How cool is that? 1029 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,833 Angelica: So special, it's amazing. 1030 00:49:22,833 --> 00:49:24,600 And the world was so different 130 years ago. 1031 00:49:25,466 --> 00:49:27,533 Lenis: Oh, was it ever, yes. 1032 00:49:27,533 --> 00:49:28,200 Matt: And I'm thinking, who made the flag? 1033 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,366 Angelica: You know, the hopes, I think of the hopes and dreams 1034 00:49:32,366 --> 00:49:33,200 of the person who made this flag. 1035 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,433 What were they 130 years ago. 1036 00:49:36,633 --> 00:49:37,366 And people have died for this flag. 1037 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,766 Matt: That's why this next item is so special. 1038 00:49:40,866 --> 00:49:41,866 This is the New Guinea prow. 1039 00:49:42,933 --> 00:49:45,200 And again, another amazing piece. 1040 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,733 - It would have sat up on a canoe. Both: Uh-huh. 1041 00:49:49,133 --> 00:49:51,000 Matt: Right up on top. Lenis: My father brought this back 1042 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:51,500 from World War Two. 1043 00:49:52,966 --> 00:49:55,066 Matt: Your dad was sneaking onto the beaches 1044 00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:55,933 to make sure it was safe for battle. 1045 00:49:57,633 --> 00:49:59,400 Angelica: My grandfather had a very difficult time in World War Two. 1046 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,066 Lenis: Yes, he did. Matt: And still he brought it home. 1047 00:50:03,066 --> 00:50:03,366 Angelica: He brought it back. Lenis: Right. 1048 00:50:05,666 --> 00:50:08,000 Angelica: Something about this spoke to him and he had to bring it back. 1049 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,266 Lenis: Aha, it's beautiful. 1050 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,766 Matt: In the middle of war-- Lenis: I know. 1051 00:50:12,766 --> 00:50:14,033 Matt: Your dad saw beauty. 1052 00:50:15,266 --> 00:50:16,700 - This is what a Legacy List is about. Lenis: Yeah. 1053 00:50:18,266 --> 00:50:20,100 Matt. One more thing, this is my favorite item. 1054 00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:21,800 I... 1055 00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:25,800 found a picture of what I think is your grandfather. 1056 00:50:27,433 --> 00:50:29,000 Lenis: Yes, and that's my mom. 1057 00:50:30,466 --> 00:50:31,400 Angelica: Oh! Lenis: Isn't that sweet. 1058 00:50:32,966 --> 00:50:34,366 Angelica: Oh, that's France. Lenis: I called him papa. 1059 00:50:35,933 --> 00:50:37,766 Angelica: Oh, there she is! That's grand Lenis: Is so sweet. 1060 00:50:37,766 --> 00:50:38,433 Angelica: That's grandma. 1061 00:50:39,966 --> 00:50:43,300 She never talked about her parents to me. 1062 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:46,900 As much time as we spent together are you very little about her parents. 1063 00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:49,866 Lenis: I loved him, I knew him very well. 1064 00:50:49,866 --> 00:50:51,733 He was very kind, very gentle, very loving. 1065 00:50:52,966 --> 00:50:54,933 Angelica: He looks like a very involved... 1066 00:50:54,933 --> 00:50:55,900 Lenis: Aha. Angelica: Caring father in that picture. 1067 00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:59,400 Matt: What did he do for a living? Lenis: He was a conductor. 1068 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,500 A railroad conductor, 1069 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,800 on an old-fashioned line 1070 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,366 called the Louisville and Nashville railroad the L & N. 1071 00:51:10,433 --> 00:51:11,733 Angelica: Oh my goodness! 1072 00:51:11,733 --> 00:51:12,866 Lenis: And I guess he-- Matt: Behold! 1073 00:51:13,966 --> 00:51:15,033 Angelica: Oh, my word! Matt: Pretty nice. 1074 00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:17,500 Lenis: And he, he made this for mom. 1075 00:51:18,833 --> 00:51:21,600 Angelica: Oh! Lenis: Isn't that just too fabulous. 1076 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,600 Angelica: Oh! Matt: So he made this for her. 1077 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:24,800 Lenis: Yeah. Matt: How cool is that? 1078 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,100 He really is was a craftsman. 1079 00:51:28,766 --> 00:51:30,666 I mean you really look at how he made it it was amazing. 1080 00:51:30,666 --> 00:51:32,366 Lenis: Right. Matt: I'm gonna let you hold this. 1081 00:51:32,366 --> 00:51:35,233 I knew I was gonna find this, I didn't know I was gonna find this. 1082 00:51:35,233 --> 00:51:39,000 I opened the door and this is a key to your grandfather's locker at work. 1083 00:51:40,066 --> 00:51:41,466 Angelica: Oh, wow... 1084 00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:43,600 Matt: Think about how long ago that was. 1085 00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:45,066 That's a one-of-a-kind. 1086 00:51:46,433 --> 00:51:47,533 Your granddad got that, your great grandfather. 1087 00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:50,933 Angelica: I'm just smitten with it. 1088 00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,700 - I mean it's just-- Lenis: Isn't it lovely? 1089 00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:55,500 Matt: His hands-- Angelica: I never knew this existed. 1090 00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,833 And my grandmother was just so dear to me 1091 00:51:59,633 --> 00:52:01,133 and there are so many times when I talk to her, 1092 00:52:01,133 --> 00:52:02,966 I want to talk to her about my life 1093 00:52:02,966 --> 00:52:04,800 and so to see this and see what her father did for her 1094 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,533 it just means a lot, Matt. 1095 00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:08,866 Matt: You did a really good job of preserving so much stuff. 1096 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,733 I mean you've got real history of both your family and America. 1097 00:52:14,166 --> 00:52:14,600 You know what this is all about? 1098 00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:16,933 All of this is about your legacy all of this is about 1099 00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:19,066 people before you and people ahead of you. 1100 00:52:21,066 --> 00:52:23,400 And I think that's really really cool. 1101 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,366 Lenis: Well this, this has just been a revelation and a wonderful experience. 1102 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,000 Matt: You know, this is all just stuf÷} if we don't know the stories behind it. 1103 00:52:32,133 --> 00:52:34,000 And now it's up to Angelica to pass these stories on to her kids 1104 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400 so the family's legacy will continue from generation to generation. 1105 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,800 Every family has a legacy sometimes they just need a little help finding it. 1106 00:52:51,533 --> 00:52:53,566 Lenis: Williamsburg is a very beautiful place. 1107 00:52:54,833 --> 00:52:57,833 You feel like you're looking at landscapes 1108 00:52:57,833 --> 00:52:59,433 that the Pilgrim Fathers looked at. 1109 00:53:01,233 --> 00:53:03,666 And then of course there's lots of history beautiful architecture 1110 00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:08,533 and lots of cultural opportunities so we're really happy here. 1111 00:53:11,633 --> 00:53:15,800 Moving to a smaller place I was afraid that you know it might be uncomfortable, 1112 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,000 but I actually really have enjoyed it very much. 1113 00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:23,666 I put all the items from the Legacy List on display now. 1114 00:53:25,566 --> 00:53:28,400 They're not you know, buried in the Attic they're out where they should be 1115 00:53:29,933 --> 00:53:33,000 and that's a real upside of downsizing [Laughs] 1116 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,666 [Music] 1117 00:54:15,066 --> 00:54:17,000 - [Narrator] Visit mylegacylist.com 1118 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,566 to learn more about this show 1119 00:54:18,566 --> 00:54:20,633 and the tips, tools and resources 1120 00:54:20,633 --> 00:54:22,233 to help you or a loved one 1121 00:54:22,233 --> 00:54:25,100 with big life transitions like this one. 1122 00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:30,100 That's www.mylegacylist.com