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>>Coming up on Legacy 
List with Matt Paxton.

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Matt is in historic 
Morristown, New Jersey

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to help a family go through a 
basement full of collectibles.

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>>Marilyn Monroe

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>>It's called a flail.

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>>And say goodbye to the man

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who taught them to 
never stop learning.

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>>What?

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>>What is that?

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>>That would be about 
53 million years old

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>>53 million years old.

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I'm Matt Paxton.

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Let's do it man.

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My team of specialists, 
Jamie, Mike, and Avi

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help me help people 
downsize their homes

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and settle estates.

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As the largest population 
of baby boomers

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in American history 
transition towards retirement,

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they and their families 
face the overwhelming task

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of emptying their homes to move.

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We help them sift through 
a lifetime of possessions.

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>>Bingo!

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>>Heirlooms and collectibles.

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>>Oh my gosh.

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>>She's gonna love that.

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>>To help them find the 
missing family treasures

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that mean the most to them.

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>>Oh my-

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>>Jackie Robinson.

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And along the way, 
they'll discover

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that the most important 
museum in the world

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may be in their 
family's basement.

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>>Oh!

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>>I've never seen that. 
That is cool looking.

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>>From attics to cellars, 
closets to cupboards,

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we uncover the memories 
they want to preserve.

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This is living history.

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This is what we're 
here to find. Let's go!

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And discover the 
compelling personal

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and often historical stories

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spanning generations that 
are their family's legacy.

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The Ruth Camp Campbell 
Foundation

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(upbeat music)

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>>Today we're in 
Morristown, New Jersey

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meeting with Annemarie 
Forman and her family.

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There's three generations 
that live there.

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We're in the middle of a 
really complicated downsize.

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First, we're gonna move her 
mother to her new apartment.

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And then we've got to 
sort through the basement

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and go through the late 
father's collectibles

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that have completely 
filled their house.

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(Matt knocks)

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>>Hi!

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>>How are you?

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>>Matt, good to see you.

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>>As well as you.

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>>Thank you for coming.

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>>Thank you. Wow, 
look at this house.

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It's beautiful.

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>>Thank you. Thank you.

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I'm so glad you're here.

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We have a basement full 
of stuff from my dad.

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My dad passed away 
two years ago.

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My dad was an electrical 
engineer for his whole career.

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But at the same time, he 
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in history and collecting.

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My mom moved in after 
my dad passed away.

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So, she's moving out, and we 
need help getting her stuff out

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and clearing out 
my dad's things.

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>>Going into this job,

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I knew it was going to 
be a little delicate

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because Annemarie's father 
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and her mother was finally 
leaving the house again.

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So I knew it would 
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but positive situation.

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All right, let's peek 
around and see what we got

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and then see the 
rest of the house.

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>>This is a kind of 
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It was my great, great aunt's.

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And this was one of the things

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when we packed up 
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we definitely made sure to take.

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It's silver, silver 
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>>It's beautiful.

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>>I see a lot of radios.

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>>Yeah. Well, my dad was 
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he was really interested 
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He actually got his ham radio 
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(talk over each other)

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That's a really big deal.

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>>Yeah, and he built 
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He even recorded Sputnik.

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>>Really?

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>>Yeah. When he was-

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>>That's really, really cool.

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My job wouldn't be (indistinct)

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'cause I've got your 
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and then your dad stuff.

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One of the things we do 
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the people that we're moving

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just by going through 
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And I think it's 
gonna be interesting

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to know more about your dad.

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>>Here was an interesting guy.

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He really was. 
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Let's keep checking out 
the rest of the house.

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I'm just kind of looking 
around right now.

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>>Over here, this ball, 
he marked everything

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like he was so meticulous 
about I love research

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and putting notes on things

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and thank goodness he did 
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we wouldn't even 
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for most people, this 
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>>But now it's like, 
oh my god, it's 200 AD!

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>>Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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Thank you, dad.

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>>This is cool.

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All right, so it's 
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Where's like the ballroom?

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>>Let's go to basement.

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That's where the good stuff is.

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All right.

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>>Wow, look at all those stuff.

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>>Come on down.

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>>All right, here we 
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>>It's quite a lot.

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>>This is a collection.

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I love it.

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Man, you're not kidding. 
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It's all documented.

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>>Yeah, he loved the 
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This is a little bag 
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when they were little.

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>>My daughter was like four.

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>>I don't even let my kid pour

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his own milk, more or less.

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>>But they loved 
they loved Grampy

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and listening to 
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He had a very big influence 
on all his grandchildren.

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Some of the stuff I 
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like I haven't been in 
the boxes in a long time.

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Like he would go 
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where all he would be 
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it might be colonial Americana.

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>>This I'm really interested in,

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>>Okay, he was like a 
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he would broadcast 
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I just remember having 
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>>These are actually original.

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These are not like-

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>>No, these are original.

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>>These are original tubes.

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>>So we used to 
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the Renaissance man.

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Because he knew so much about 
so many different things.

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As he got up in years, 
like he actually,

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there was one time where he 
took me around the house.

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And he started to talk 
to me about everything.

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It's kind of emotional 
for me to think about it.

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But he knew that there 
was gonna be a time

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when we'd have to do this.

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preparing us for it.

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At least he was 
preparing me for it.

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where everything was, 
what was important,

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what not to worry about so much.

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Like, I think he was, you know, 
that was his way of saying,

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you know, you've got this.

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>>Obviously a lot of work to do.

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We're gonna move some 
of your mom's stuff.

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We'll get rid of some trash, 
we'll organize a lot of this.

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But we got our hands full.

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Now, is there any other 
space I need to see

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that would have some of 
your dad's collection?

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>>Yeah, there's actually 
some in the garage,

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if you want to come take a look.

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>>That's the garage.

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>>That's it.

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>>Wow. (exhales) Take a second.

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This adds a day. Easy.

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Very typical.

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When a client calls me, 
they say, "Hey, look,

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my stuff's over there somewhere.

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But my mom's stuff's on top,

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and then my aunt's 
stuff's over here.

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So we've got like real 
sorting to do out here.

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All right, I think I know 
we need to do logistically.

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We've got a lot of work to do.

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I need to get my team here.

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But I want to go inside and 
let's go over the legacy list.

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Usually I have idea what's 
gonna be on the legacy list.

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I have no idea what you're 
going to throw at me.

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So I'm kind of 
excited to go here.

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We've two goals, 
one was clean out,

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one was obviously to move Nancy

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and get her in a 
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And the second one was to 
just reorganize all the items

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and make them as 
accessible as possible.

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[Matt] All right.

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Give me your favorite 
memory of your dad

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with all this stuff.

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What's the coolest thing?

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>>Oh, it's so hard 
to pick one thing-

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>>Or just give me a cool one.

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>>But a cool one I think 
is a memory I have of

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my dad with with my 
girls in the basement.

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And he would take them 
down to his little workshop

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and he would teach them 
how to be archeologists.

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He put little cotton 
gloves on them

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and he'd use like 
old dental tools

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and teach them how 
to clean the fossils.

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And so that vision that 
I have, is priceless.

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>>One thing I love about my job

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is we get to know the person.

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What am I gonna 
know about your dad?

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>>I think you will know 
that he was passionate

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about not just things but 
about the meaning of them

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and the history of them.

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I feel like he's here 
kind of talking to you

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through his things and you 
will totally get to know him.

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>>All right, let's 
get into this list.

258
00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:15,900
>>Okay. The first thing 
is a cuneiform brick.

259
00:10:17,066 --> 00:10:19,100
He was so proud of 
that because it had

260
00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:22,766
like one of the first 
pieces of writing,

261
00:10:22,766 --> 00:10:25,033
you know that Sumerian writing,

262
00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:29,000
and he was really 
intrigued with language

263
00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,466
and the evolution of it.

264
00:10:30,466 --> 00:10:33,333
The reason that I'm a teacher 
today is because of him.

265
00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,800
And I and I teach 
English, so for me

266
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,333
this is like a personal item 
that really connects me to him.

267
00:10:43,933 --> 00:10:46,966
The next thing is, I was 
just telling you the story

268
00:10:46,966 --> 00:10:49,700
about my girls 
cleaning the fossils,

269
00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:52,733
and one of one of the fossils 
that they cleaned off with him

270
00:10:52,733 --> 00:10:55,500
was of a fossilized turtle.

271
00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:57,733
>>Is it big turtle, 
small turtle?

272
00:10:57,733 --> 00:10:59,033
[Annemarie] Medium size. Yes.

273
00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:00,300
[Matt] Well, box turtle, okay.

274
00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:06,466
All right, let's keep 
on. What's the next item?

275
00:11:06,466 --> 00:11:08,533
>>Okay, the next item is an item

276
00:11:08,533 --> 00:11:12,500
that I know would be 
really special to my mom.

277
00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:15,366
It's something that 
he had all the time

278
00:11:15,366 --> 00:11:16,666
and used it all the time.

279
00:11:16,666 --> 00:11:20,933
And it's an old Bakelite 
circuit tester, I guess.

280
00:11:20,933 --> 00:11:23,300
He would use it to 
test voltage on things

281
00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,133
to see if something 
you know, was working

282
00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:31,133
or the battery was charged 
and he got it from his uncle.

283
00:11:32,033 --> 00:11:33,466
And it was something

284
00:11:33,466 --> 00:11:36,300
that kind of got him 
interested in electronics.

285
00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,800
The next item is a 
dinosaur egg, or fossil.

286
00:11:44,633 --> 00:11:45,766
>>Repeat that for me.

287
00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:50,266
>>A dinosaur, 
fossilized dinosaur egg.

288
00:11:50,266 --> 00:11:53,366
He had a pretty 
large collection.

289
00:11:54,933 --> 00:11:57,066
>>He's not the father of 
dragons, like we're not-

290
00:11:57,066 --> 00:12:01,066
>>No, no, but he 
was really into,

291
00:12:01,066 --> 00:12:02,500
he had like period of time

292
00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:04,166
when he was really 
into natural history.

293
00:12:07,666 --> 00:12:11,000
The last thing that I 
have is a Amethyst geode.

294
00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,900
And it's kind of what got him

295
00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:15,366
into his natural history 
phase of collecting.

296
00:12:15,366 --> 00:12:19,100
>>Okay, so that was... 
He got the bug with that.

297
00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:20,900
>>My mother just remembers

298
00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:23,433
how excited he was about it.

299
00:12:23,433 --> 00:12:26,233
Now that she's moving, she 
wants to have that display,

300
00:12:26,233 --> 00:12:27,700
>>Okay, so she wants that to go-

301
00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:29,166
>>She wants to have that

302
00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:31,933
displayed in her new place.

303
00:12:31,933 --> 00:12:33,333
>>We're gonna move your mom.

304
00:12:34,533 --> 00:12:35,733
And then we're gonna 
hopefully clear out

305
00:12:35,733 --> 00:12:36,933
and reorganize a lot of stuff,

306
00:12:36,933 --> 00:12:38,466
so that you guys 
can get some space.

307
00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,866
>>Perfect.

308
00:12:40,866 --> 00:12:41,833
>>What do you want for 
your mom in this process,

309
00:12:41,833 --> 00:12:44,633
and I don't mean stuff.

310
00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:47,533
>>They were married 
for 52 years.

311
00:12:47,533 --> 00:12:51,900
And unfortunately, my dad passed 
away on their anniversary.

312
00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,000
I think this move is exciting.

313
00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,933
But I also think it's 
a little scary for her

314
00:12:56,933 --> 00:13:00,166
'cause she's never 
really been on her own.

315
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000
And I think just going 
through these things now

316
00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,500
and talking about him now

317
00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:10,033
is kind of like settling 
her and getting her ready.

318
00:13:11,233 --> 00:13:13,066
Because it's okay 
for her to move on.

319
00:13:13,066 --> 00:13:15,866
(uplifting music)

320
00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,466
(upbeat music)

321
00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,200
>>This place is 
pretty cool, man.

322
00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,033
>>Yes.

323
00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:31,633
>>We knew this was 
gonna be a long week.

324
00:13:31,633 --> 00:13:34,166
So I wanted to get these guys 
fed and filled with coffee,

325
00:13:34,166 --> 00:13:36,000
so they'd be ready to go.

326
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,266
>>I knew this job was 
going to be a little bit

327
00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:40,233
different because Matt 
took us to breakfast

328
00:13:40,233 --> 00:13:41,533
before we went to the house.

329
00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:43,333
And that never happens.

330
00:13:43,333 --> 00:13:45,933
>>All right, we got our 
hands full this week.

331
00:13:45,933 --> 00:13:47,166
Very cool family.

332
00:13:47,166 --> 00:13:49,600
Father died two years ago.

333
00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,533
And we now have 
three generations 
living in this house,

334
00:13:52,533 --> 00:13:55,966
we have grandma, 
mom, and daughters.

335
00:13:55,966 --> 00:13:57,433
And so it's kind of unique,

336
00:13:57,433 --> 00:14:00,600
where you are gonna be 
moving grandma this week,

337
00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,500
we've got to get 
all her stuff out.

338
00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,400
And you and your guys 
are gonna to move her.

339
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,233
And at the same time, 
I need you to come back

340
00:14:06,233 --> 00:14:07,966
and help us sort 
through the whole house.

341
00:14:07,966 --> 00:14:09,900
So you're kind of working 
double time this week.

342
00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:11,000
>>Do I get double pay?

343
00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,400
>>No, not double pay.

344
00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,733
Good question.

345
00:14:13,733 --> 00:14:15,133
At some point, the 
family is gonna need

346
00:14:15,133 --> 00:14:16,500
to sell some of these things.

347
00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:18,366
>>They're ready to 
liquidate some of the stuff

348
00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:19,633
>>Like a lot of families,

349
00:14:19,633 --> 00:14:21,400
I think they like the 
concept of liquidating.

350
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,766
But they are so attached 
to this man and his stuff.

351
00:14:24,766 --> 00:14:27,433
This one's hard for me 
reminds me my dad a lot.

352
00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,700
That's why I gotta do this.

353
00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,666
I still miss my dad 20 
years later, you know.

354
00:14:32,666 --> 00:14:34,766
>>That never really changes.

355
00:14:34,766 --> 00:14:36,500
>>No, and they're at 
the beginning of this.

356
00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:41,033
And it's been emotional 
just to even be in there.

357
00:14:41,033 --> 00:14:43,433
>>Now, in my experience 
working in these types of

358
00:14:43,433 --> 00:14:45,200
situations where there's 
grief involved, you know,

359
00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,233
it can be a little chaotic.

360
00:14:47,233 --> 00:14:48,800
>>They don't even 
know what they have.

361
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,300
>>Exactly.

362
00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,566
>>So aside from the move, 
should we bring in some

363
00:14:52,566 --> 00:14:54,100
shelves or think of a way 
to help organize this?

364
00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:56,300
>>That's a good idea. 
Yeah, that'd be awesome.

365
00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:57,366
>>All right, I'll get my guys

366
00:14:57,366 --> 00:14:58,200
>>Okay

367
00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,133
This is why we do this.

368
00:14:59,133 --> 00:15:01,433
This is the kind of family...

369
00:15:01,433 --> 00:15:04,033
I'm excited to find 
some of this stuff.

370
00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:06,266
I saw a bunch of 
medieval weapons

371
00:15:06,266 --> 00:15:07,766
that you'll be 
able to work with.

372
00:15:07,766 --> 00:15:08,800
I don't know anything about 'em.

373
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,066
>>Looking forward to it.

374
00:15:10,066 --> 00:15:11,833
>>Honestly, you're gonna 
make fun of me for this,

375
00:15:11,833 --> 00:15:13,700
but I don't think I 
have any knowledge

376
00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:15,600
for anything in this house.

377
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,500
So it's gonna be really 
important for you guys.

378
00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:18,433
I know. Shock, right.

379
00:15:18,433 --> 00:15:20,333
It was a pretty easy plan.

380
00:15:20,333 --> 00:15:23,000
We're gonna have Jamie 
and Avi in the basement.

381
00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,966
And then I really wanted 
Mike fully focused

382
00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:27,933
on moving Nancy first because 
once we got through that,

383
00:15:27,933 --> 00:15:29,166
the emotions can simmer down

384
00:15:29,166 --> 00:15:30,866
and we can focus 
on the collection.

385
00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:41,066
>>Ah, man. I mean already.

386
00:15:45,266 --> 00:15:48,666
>>All right. Wow.

387
00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:51,766
>>I have never seen a 
collection like this

388
00:15:51,766 --> 00:15:53,333
in anyone's basement.

389
00:15:53,333 --> 00:15:54,900
>>I mean, we've been 
in a lot of basements.

390
00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,500
But this is like, this is full,

391
00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:58,766
>>This is full.

392
00:15:58,766 --> 00:16:00,566
I thought I was in 
a museum actually.

393
00:16:04,033 --> 00:16:05,266
Look, here.

394
00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,266
Got bowls.

395
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,233
>>800 AD.

396
00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:15,366
Matt told us that we were 
going to be going through

397
00:16:15,366 --> 00:16:20,166
a really large, extensive 
collection of old artifacts.

398
00:16:20,166 --> 00:16:23,400
That's why I feel like we 
shouldn't even be touching it.

399
00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,833
This is not the typical 
stuff that we go through.

400
00:16:27,433 --> 00:16:28,933
>>Some pretty cool wineskin.

401
00:16:28,933 --> 00:16:32,166
>>You know, we need people 
like Frank in the world

402
00:16:32,166 --> 00:16:35,366
to care about history like this,

403
00:16:35,366 --> 00:16:37,700
and really preserve it and 
pass it on to his family,

404
00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:41,400
because then they're gonna 
take it to the next generation.

405
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,033
>>I've known Mike 
for a long time.

406
00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:45,600
And I knew this was going 
to need to be, honestly,

407
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,966
a very gentle and 
compassionate move.

408
00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:50,900
Mike has moved 
people in my family.

409
00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:52,566
So I trust him fully.

410
00:16:52,566 --> 00:16:54,733
I knew it would go 
really easy with Nancy.

411
00:16:54,733 --> 00:16:57,200
>>Come on in, Mike, take 
a look at my belongings

412
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,966
that have been packed up 
and stored in this garage.

413
00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,800
>>All right.

414
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,933
>>I honestly don't know 
where everything is

415
00:17:04,933 --> 00:17:07,333
to be honest with you, 
so I need help there.

416
00:17:07,333 --> 00:17:08,833
>>Nobody's ever 
told me that before.

417
00:17:08,833 --> 00:17:12,233
On each and every project, 
we're there to do a job.

418
00:17:12,233 --> 00:17:13,900
And we have certain skill sets

419
00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:15,766
that allow us to do that.

420
00:17:15,766 --> 00:17:19,933
But sometimes the best thing 
we can do is just listen.

421
00:17:19,933 --> 00:17:21,400
Well, it's pretty clear.

422
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,566
I mean, obviously, we have a 
lot to do to get this from here

423
00:17:24,566 --> 00:17:26,066
to your new home.

424
00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:28,500
Taking that aside for a 
moment: how are you doing?

425
00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:29,466
How does this feel?

426
00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:36,033
>>My husband passed away a 
little over two years ago

427
00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:39,366
And I go from 
being happy to sad.

428
00:17:39,366 --> 00:17:40,866
It's a big step for me.

429
00:17:40,866 --> 00:17:45,200
And I'm looking forward to 
the future. I really am.

430
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,600
It's not the future 
I envisioned.

431
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,933
But it's the future that I'm 
going to make the best out of.

432
00:17:50,933 --> 00:17:52,933
>>I could tell that 
Nancy was really anxious

433
00:17:52,933 --> 00:17:54,166
about this move.

434
00:17:54,166 --> 00:17:56,000
This is gonna be a 
big change for her.

435
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,366
I know what I've got to do here.

436
00:17:57,366 --> 00:17:58,900
So I'm gonna go and get started.

437
00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:02,133
And I'll come get you if I 
have any questions I need-

438
00:18:02,133 --> 00:18:03,233
>>Okay, thank you so much.

439
00:18:03,233 --> 00:18:04,366
I appreciate it.

440
00:18:04,366 --> 00:18:05,566
>>Absolutely, Nancy.

441
00:18:08,766 --> 00:18:11,500
(cheerful music)

442
00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:18,400
>>This is like a whole 
detailed list of,

443
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,900
it doesn't say dinosaur but 
it looks like a similar word.

444
00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:24,900
Eggs, or like 
dinosaur like fossils

445
00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:26,866
like inventory, if you will.

446
00:18:28,033 --> 00:18:29,633
>>I mean, we are looking 
for the dinosaur egg.

447
00:18:29,633 --> 00:18:32,933
>>I know that's why 
that caught my eye but-

448
00:18:32,933 --> 00:18:34,233
>>You got smoke but no fire.

449
00:18:34,233 --> 00:18:35,766
>>Exactly. Well.

450
00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:38,733
Here's a dinosaur egg shell.

451
00:18:39,866 --> 00:18:41,400
That little tiny 
piece of a dinosaur.

452
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,433
How do they know that's 
a dinosaur eggshell?

453
00:18:42,433 --> 00:18:44,466
>>I know. I always wonder that.

454
00:18:44,466 --> 00:18:45,700
>>That's fascinating.

455
00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:46,900
>>Like, I would just 
walk right past this,

456
00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:48,100
I would not even give 
a second thought.

457
00:18:49,233 --> 00:18:51,600
>>While I didn't find 
the dinosaur egg.

458
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,100
I did find a piece of 
a dinosaur egg shell.

459
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:56,366
It's not the whole thing.

460
00:18:56,366 --> 00:18:58,700
But I think Annemarie is 
gonna be really excited

461
00:18:58,700 --> 00:19:00,533
that we found this.

462
00:19:00,533 --> 00:19:01,833
>>There was one more thing I saw

463
00:19:01,833 --> 00:19:03,366
while I was looking 
at this wineskin.

464
00:19:04,233 --> 00:19:06,166
That was pretty interesting.

465
00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:10,966
>>What is this?

466
00:19:10,966 --> 00:19:12,500
>>It's called a flail.

467
00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:13,700
>>Okay.

468
00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:15,833
>>Hold it. It's a pretty 
interesting weapon.

469
00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:18,233
It has a fairly 
interesting history.

470
00:19:19,366 --> 00:19:20,933
>>The flail is a weapon

471
00:19:20,933 --> 00:19:23,766
that dates back to 
the Middle Ages.

472
00:19:23,766 --> 00:19:26,366
Its design is 
simple, but deadly.

473
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:30,000
It was most effective 
in close quarters

474
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,300
when combatants were within 
arm's length of each other.

475
00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:36,033
The striking end 
was usually spiked,

476
00:19:36,033 --> 00:19:39,166
and the chain itself could 
be up to two feet in length.

477
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,500
Military historians debate 
the flail's popularity,

478
00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,700
but one thing is for certain:

479
00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:49,333
a knight favorite 
weapon was his sword.

480
00:19:49,333 --> 00:19:52,400
It was a symbol of great 
honor and prestige,

481
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,300
but it was far from ceremonial.

482
00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:58,666
A blow from a knight's 
sword could smash bones,

483
00:19:58,666 --> 00:20:01,566
incapacitating opponents 
and giving the user

484
00:20:01,566 --> 00:20:03,300
the upper hand in battle.

485
00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:07,966
The other weapon of 
choice was the lance.

486
00:20:07,966 --> 00:20:11,633
Knights on horseback wielded 
these long wooden poles

487
00:20:11,633 --> 00:20:13,666
when charging the enemy.

488
00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:16,700
A mounted knight in full 
gallop could reach speeds

489
00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:19,466
of up to 30 miles an hour.

490
00:20:19,466 --> 00:20:23,000
The results were catastrophic.

491
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,800
Soldiers fighting on 
foot preferred weapons

492
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,500
they could swing with 
deadly accuracy, like axes.

493
00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,733
When historians 
x-rayed skeletons

494
00:20:32,733 --> 00:20:36,700
from a 15th century battlefield, 
they found that many died

495
00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:39,333
from blunt force 
trauma to the head.

496
00:20:40,766 --> 00:20:43,500
Thanks to the legend of 
King Arthur and Excalibur,

497
00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:44,900
knights of the Middle Ages

498
00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:48,000
have been romanticized 
over the years.

499
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,200
In reality, they 
were brutal warriors

500
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,433
who fought not just for 
a cause, or their king,

501
00:20:54,433 --> 00:20:57,000
but for the highest bidder.

502
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,733
Some of the biggest 
battles of the Middle Ages

503
00:20:59,733 --> 00:21:02,033
were decided by 
mercenary knights

504
00:21:02,033 --> 00:21:05,000
who used their assortments 
of deadly weapons

505
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,433
to turn the tide of history.

506
00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:13,666
(light music)

507
00:21:13,666 --> 00:21:15,766
>>I mean, do you think 
this is like original?

508
00:21:15,766 --> 00:21:20,100
Like was this used in 
some sort of battle or-

509
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:21,566
>>Likely not.

510
00:21:21,566 --> 00:21:23,466
This definitely looks 
more like a replica to me.

511
00:21:23,466 --> 00:21:26,233
Just looking at a flail, 
you can't really appreciate

512
00:21:26,233 --> 00:21:28,500
how destructive it 
could actually be.

513
00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:29,966
And so I thought 
was pretty important

514
00:21:29,966 --> 00:21:32,433
that we just give an example 
of how it might be used.

515
00:21:33,733 --> 00:21:36,800
So I gave you an explanation 
about this flail.

516
00:21:38,566 --> 00:21:40,566
I thought I would show 
you rather than tell you.

517
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,366
So if you just-

518
00:21:44,366 --> 00:21:45,600
>>I'll back up.

519
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,866
(pumpkin smashes) 
(Jamie laughing)

520
00:21:49,866 --> 00:21:51,933
(Matt cheering)

521
00:21:51,933 --> 00:21:53,666
All right, not bad.

522
00:21:53,666 --> 00:21:54,900
>>Not bad?!

523
00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:57,133
Can you imagine that 
being somebody's head?

524
00:21:57,133 --> 00:21:59,700
>>That's a big target. 
I'm just gonna--

525
00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:00,600
let me grab this.

526
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,300
>>Okay.

527
00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:03,900
>>Here, let's set me up.

528
00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:06,766
Now, you're not allowed to 
make fun of me if I miss this.

529
00:22:08,833 --> 00:22:13,433
>>Oh! That's what 
I'm talking about.

530
00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:14,933
>>I gotta be honest

531
00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:17,066
I was shocked that 
I hit the pumpkin,

532
00:22:17,066 --> 00:22:18,300
but it felt pretty good.

533
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:19,533
>>You eat pumpkin pie?

534
00:22:19,533 --> 00:22:21,366
>>Yeah, if you're making it.

535
00:22:21,366 --> 00:22:22,733
>>Let's do it. 
>>Alright.

536
00:22:22,733 --> 00:22:24,733
I'm gonna bring this.

537
00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:29,966
>>One of the most 
important things I do

538
00:22:29,966 --> 00:22:33,366
is take the stress and 
pressure off of our clients.

539
00:22:33,366 --> 00:22:34,366
Because at the end of the day,

540
00:22:34,366 --> 00:22:35,933
I'm going to get 
the project done

541
00:22:35,933 --> 00:22:38,333
and make it so that they 
don't have to worry.

542
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,400
>>Titanic? What?

543
00:22:50,066 --> 00:22:53,666
Hey Avi, how are you 
doing over there?

544
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,200
>>It is coming along. There's 
so much to go through.

545
00:22:59,866 --> 00:23:01,900
How about you?

546
00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,933
>>I mean, I'm finding 
all these documents,

547
00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:09,433
of like cargo boat manifests 
from like the 1700s, originals.

548
00:23:11,866 --> 00:23:14,133
>>Is there anything else 
interesting over there?

549
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:15,900
>>Come here.

550
00:23:19,033 --> 00:23:20,466
All right. What's that word?

551
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,466
>>Cuneform?

552
00:23:23,466 --> 00:23:27,033
>>Close. It's cuneiform.

553
00:23:29,066 --> 00:23:31,866
So this is the item 
on her legacy list.

554
00:23:31,866 --> 00:23:33,700
So let's look now.

555
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:34,900
Let's get it out.

556
00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,800
So these were ancient 
forms of writing,

557
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800
like the first form of writing.

558
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,100
>>Like hieroglyphics.

559
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:42,633
>>Kind of, yeah.

560
00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:46,566
I mean, these date back 
all the way to like 2000 BC

561
00:23:46,566 --> 00:23:48,033
or something like that.

562
00:23:48,033 --> 00:23:50,100
Like, it says it on here, 
let's see exact dates.

563
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:54,266
Yeah. 2012 to 2004 BC.

564
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,733
>>Man, this is awesome.

565
00:23:55,733 --> 00:23:58,166
>>It was really fascinating 
to be this up close and

566
00:23:58,166 --> 00:24:01,333
personal with something that 
was thousands of years old.

567
00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:04,066
I didn't know what it said 
but it was cool nonetheless.

568
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,033
>>How're we doing 
down here guys?

569
00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:10,133
>>What's up, man?

570
00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:11,866
>>How're we doing? What we got?

571
00:24:11,866 --> 00:24:15,700
>>Well, I got some 
good news for you.

572
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:16,533
>>Let's hear it.

573
00:24:16,533 --> 00:24:18,900
>>I found the cuneiform.

574
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:19,733
>>Awesome!

575
00:24:19,733 --> 00:24:21,000
Where was it? Down here?

576
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,300
>>Yeah. It was in 
a box over there.

577
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:23,566
>>Can you beat that?

578
00:24:23,566 --> 00:24:26,566
>>Cuneiform is nice, 
but check this out.

579
00:24:28,666 --> 00:24:30,366
>>What is that?

580
00:24:31,566 --> 00:24:33,966
>>Looks like dinosaur 
teeth or dinosaur jaw.

581
00:24:33,966 --> 00:24:36,933
>>It's like an alligator jaw

582
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:39,200
and all wrapped up and 
everything, it was labeled?

583
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,533
I know, a lot of 
stuff is labeled.

584
00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:41,500
>>No labels on it.

585
00:24:42,633 --> 00:24:44,000
>>All right, so we 
need to find somebody

586
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,500
that could tell us about this.

587
00:24:46,966 --> 00:24:49,033
I always say that 
I've seen it all

588
00:24:49,033 --> 00:24:50,266
and then about once a year

589
00:24:50,266 --> 00:24:51,800
somebody brings 
out something new.

590
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,033
Avi finds a dinosaur 
jaw or something.

591
00:24:55,033 --> 00:24:56,300
I don't know what it is.

592
00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:57,500
I've got to take it 
to the local museum

593
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:58,833
to learn more about it.

594
00:24:58,833 --> 00:25:00,266
There's a lot of 
cool stuff here.

595
00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:01,833
Why don't you pack 
up what you have,

596
00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:04,233
I'll pack up some of 
the other things I have.

597
00:25:04,233 --> 00:25:06,333
I've got an appraiser 
coming in this afternoon

598
00:25:06,333 --> 00:25:08,300
to kind of give us a 
full list of everything.

599
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:11,466
And then Mike is cranking 
out moving Nancy, right now.

600
00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,033
So we got a lot going on.

601
00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:14,033
>>Busy day.

602
00:25:14,033 --> 00:25:15,733
>>Busy day but what a house!

603
00:25:15,733 --> 00:25:18,233
I mean the stuffs, I wish I 
could be in here with you guys

604
00:25:18,233 --> 00:25:19,833
but I do not have the time.

605
00:25:19,833 --> 00:25:21,933
Keep looking in here. 
Find what you can.

606
00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:23,733
Great job, guys. Good 
job on the legacy list.

607
00:25:23,733 --> 00:25:24,633
This is great.

608
00:25:24,633 --> 00:25:25,933
>>Yeah. See ya. 
>>See ya.

609
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,666
>>I mean, seeing all of 
this stuff in the basement,

610
00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:39,000
it all belonged to her father

611
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000
and he played such a 
big role in the family.

612
00:25:43,466 --> 00:25:46,033
It's inevitable that every 
time they walk downstairs,

613
00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:47,733
they're going to 
be reminded of him

614
00:25:47,733 --> 00:25:50,066
and they're not gonna 
want to sit down

615
00:25:50,066 --> 00:25:52,433
and go through all 
of these memories.

616
00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:55,766
So how are you feeling so 
far with this whole process?

617
00:25:55,766 --> 00:25:59,966
>>Oh, I have to admit, 
it's been overwhelming.

618
00:25:59,966 --> 00:26:02,766
It's a little overwhelming, 
you know, moving my mom

619
00:26:02,766 --> 00:26:05,800
and then trying to make sure

620
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,700
I wasn't losing any 
of my father's things,

621
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:11,900
and then putting it 
all into this house.

622
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:14,233
I feel like it's time 
for us to downsize.

623
00:26:14,233 --> 00:26:16,633
>>You're ready to 
have that space back.

624
00:26:16,633 --> 00:26:20,400
So we've been in the 
basement for a while.

625
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,633
And we found a lot of really 
great stuff down there.

626
00:26:23,633 --> 00:26:26,966
But we're still looking 
for just a few items.

627
00:26:26,966 --> 00:26:29,200
So I was wondering if 
there's anywhere in the house

628
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,133
an area that that I might 
find some of these things?

629
00:26:32,133 --> 00:26:33,966
>>Sure. Actually, my den.

630
00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:34,800
>>Oh!

631
00:26:36,233 --> 00:26:38,566
One of the items on the list 
that was really important

632
00:26:38,566 --> 00:26:41,333
to Annemarie's daughter 
was the petrified turtle.

633
00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:43,366
I knew there had to be 
somewhere else in the house

634
00:26:43,366 --> 00:26:44,633
that we could look.

635
00:26:44,633 --> 00:26:46,166
That looks great. 
I'll check it out.

636
00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:47,166
>>Thank you.

637
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600
(upbeat music)

638
00:26:51,966 --> 00:26:53,433
>>All right.

639
00:26:53,433 --> 00:26:55,566
I'm wearing gloves, because 
there's a lot of paper.

640
00:26:55,566 --> 00:26:59,700
And this guy was 
super, super organized.

641
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,466
This is the area 
that is labeled.

642
00:27:02,466 --> 00:27:03,733
Stuff, not inventoried.

643
00:27:03,733 --> 00:27:07,200
Okay, so he labeled when 
he hasn't gotten to yet.

644
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,333
You have to look at 
every piece of paper.

645
00:27:10,333 --> 00:27:11,266
It says what it is.

646
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,466
So that prayer sheet.

647
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,566
>>There's a baptism, birth 
and baptism certificate.

648
00:27:24,266 --> 00:27:26,700
>>It's an early school book.

649
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:27,533
It's cute.

650
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,900
Little Martha.

651
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,600
Look, they were even saying 
"doing property of" back then.

652
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,133
>>Let's keep going here.

653
00:27:35,133 --> 00:27:37,566
Oh, this is what 
I want to get to.

654
00:27:37,566 --> 00:27:39,766
Hair. Not inventory.

655
00:27:39,766 --> 00:27:41,533
Famous people's hair.

656
00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:44,433
Abraham Lincoln's hair.

657
00:27:44,433 --> 00:27:47,700
I'm a little disappointed, it's 
a tiny little piece of hair.

658
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,033
John Kennedy's hair.

659
00:27:50,033 --> 00:27:51,900
That's just not a lot of hair?

660
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,733
>>I mean, I've got 
more hair than that!

661
00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:55,400
>>You do.

662
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,833
You specialize in weird stuff,

663
00:27:56,833 --> 00:27:58,100
like, is this a real thing?

664
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,300
Is this a market for 
something like this?

665
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:00,666
>>Oh, absolutely.

666
00:28:00,666 --> 00:28:02,166
>>George Washington!

667
00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:06,366
>>What a lot of people 
rely on is the chain of

668
00:28:06,366 --> 00:28:09,566
ownership and the documentation 
that accompanies it.

669
00:28:09,566 --> 00:28:12,033
But it wasn't uncommon 
at all for presidents

670
00:28:12,033 --> 00:28:15,733
to give locks of their 
hair to important people

671
00:28:15,733 --> 00:28:16,866
as like a memento.

672
00:28:17,966 --> 00:28:19,833
>>This is Robert E. Lee's hair.

673
00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:21,066
>>Oh, Jesus.

674
00:28:21,066 --> 00:28:23,466
>>All right, now we're 
talking: Elvis Presley.

675
00:28:24,533 --> 00:28:25,366
Look at this!

676
00:28:25,366 --> 00:28:26,600
>>Whoa!

677
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,300
>>Marilyn Monroe.

678
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,400
I have to say I have seen 
a lot of collections.

679
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,433
Famous people hair is not 
one that I thought of.

680
00:28:35,433 --> 00:28:38,000
>>People spend a lot 
of time on their hair,

681
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,600
and that's nothing new.

682
00:28:40,866 --> 00:28:42,366
According to archeologists,

683
00:28:42,366 --> 00:28:46,933
combs date back over 5,000 
years to Ancient Egypt.

684
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:50,100
Speaking of Egyptians, they 
prefer their hair short

685
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,766
because of the desert 
heat and a strong desire

686
00:28:52,766 --> 00:28:55,133
to not get head lice.

687
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,266
Ancient Greeks, on the other 
hand, liked their hair long

688
00:28:59,266 --> 00:29:01,133
and would often 
place fresh flowers

689
00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:04,566
and jewelry in their hair 
when attending social events.

690
00:29:04,566 --> 00:29:07,166
Styles change from 
culture to culture.

691
00:29:07,166 --> 00:29:09,666
Despite their 
ferocious reputation,

692
00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:12,366
Vikings were very 
conscious of their hair.

693
00:29:12,366 --> 00:29:16,300
Most wore it short in the back 
with a long beard in front,

694
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:18,400
kind of like a reverse mullet.

695
00:29:19,866 --> 00:29:21,700
For many Native American women,

696
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:24,700
long hair was 
spiritually significant.

697
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:27,900
Some tribes cut hair 
in times of mourning.

698
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,833
Others style that for 
traditional ceremonies.

699
00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:34,233
for Native people growing out 
their hair remains a source

700
00:29:34,233 --> 00:29:36,800
of cultural pride 
and resilience.

701
00:29:37,933 --> 00:29:40,233
Beauty standards took 
a surprising turn

702
00:29:40,233 --> 00:29:42,266
during the European Renaissance.

703
00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:44,700
High foreheads 
were all the rage,

704
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,233
so women plucked their 
hair lines to be in style.

705
00:29:49,166 --> 00:29:50,666
During the Victorian age,

706
00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:53,100
keepsakes made from 
the hair of a loved one

707
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,333
became extremely popular.

708
00:29:55,333 --> 00:29:57,966
strands of hair were 
often made into jewelry

709
00:29:57,966 --> 00:29:59,600
or other works of art.

710
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,800
It was a custom picked up 
by many grieving widows

711
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,666
whose husbands never 
returned from the Civil War.

712
00:30:07,633 --> 00:30:09,933
Our fascination with 
hair hasn't faded.

713
00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:14,400
From dreadlocks to 
Mohawks, crew cuts to bobs,

714
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,133
our hair is an extension 
of our personality.

715
00:30:24,333 --> 00:30:25,166
>>Okay.

716
00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:33,900
Wow.

717
00:30:36,466 --> 00:30:39,600
That's a fossilized 
turtle for ya.

718
00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,300
>>What's this?

719
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:47,300
300 AD. Man.

720
00:30:48,833 --> 00:30:49,966
>>I've seen a lot 
of collections,

721
00:30:49,966 --> 00:30:51,733
this one is really amazing.

722
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:54,666
Circa 100 BC to 300 AD.

723
00:30:54,666 --> 00:30:58,400
A lot of times a collector 
will focus on one thing

724
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,500
and have a lot of 
that one thing.

725
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,633
Nancy's husband had 
10 or 20 collections,

726
00:31:03,633 --> 00:31:05,033
all with a ton of items.

727
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:10,700
Oh, hello.

728
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:12,433
>>Oh, the battery tester.

729
00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:15,700
Look at this. Very cool, man.

730
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,033
There's another 
legacy list item.

731
00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:18,000
Good job, dude!

732
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:19,733
Got a battery with it?

733
00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:20,966
>>Got a battery with it.

734
00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:21,900
>>All right, let's see 
if this thing works.

735
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,433
[Mike] Yay. It still works!

736
00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:25,566
>>Look at that.

737
00:31:25,566 --> 00:31:26,400
>>That's awesome.

738
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,666
>>You know, it's funny.

739
00:31:27,666 --> 00:31:29,166
We're sitting here with 
all this ancient pottery

740
00:31:29,166 --> 00:31:31,366
and hair and autographs 
and all that stuff

741
00:31:31,366 --> 00:31:33,800
and all the legacy list items,

742
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,966
this is the one that 
she grew up with.

743
00:31:45,833 --> 00:31:46,666
>>Oh.

744
00:31:47,533 --> 00:31:49,200
Oh yeah!

745
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,700
Here we go, Matt.

746
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,366
>>Hey, look at that!

747
00:31:52,366 --> 00:31:53,433
>>Check it out!

748
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:55,366
>>Another legacy list item.

749
00:31:55,366 --> 00:31:56,533
Look at that!

750
00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:57,366
The geode.

751
00:31:57,366 --> 00:31:58,300
It's beautiful.

752
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:01,666
That is really cool.

753
00:32:01,666 --> 00:32:04,666
So that is the first, like 
big rock that he bought.

754
00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:07,266
Annemarie really 
wanted us to find it,

755
00:32:07,266 --> 00:32:09,000
She said, you know, 
this is what got him

756
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,500
into all the natural 
history he collects.

757
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:12,300
>>I would have loved to 
have hung out with this guy.

758
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,000
>>God, it's what I keep saying.

759
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,400
I just wish I 
could like sit down

760
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200
and talk to this 
guy one afternoon.

761
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,466
This is really, really cool.

762
00:32:18,466 --> 00:32:19,733
Good job, man. I'm 
gonna give it back.

763
00:32:19,733 --> 00:32:21,433
I don't want to be 
responsible for it.

764
00:32:21,433 --> 00:32:23,300
I am gonna go to a 
museum down the street

765
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:24,800
and try to learn a 
little more about

766
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,400
all the natural history 
stuff that we're finding,

767
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,466
some we'll take that with us.

768
00:32:27,466 --> 00:32:28,933
>>Sounds good. 
>>Right. Cool.

769
00:32:28,933 --> 00:32:30,533
Thank you, dude. Good 
job, another legacy list.

770
00:32:30,533 --> 00:32:33,100
>>So what is that? Two to zero?

771
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,600
>>Yeah, I haven't got any yet.

772
00:32:35,533 --> 00:32:36,933
>>I mean, nobody's counting.

773
00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:44,700
>>I wanted to learn 
a little bit more

774
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:45,900
about some of these items.

775
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:48,233
So Avi and I headed over 
to the Morris Museum

776
00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:49,800
to learn as much as we could.

777
00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:53,666
We're working on a 
house here in town,

778
00:32:53,666 --> 00:32:55,833
and we've just 
found a lot of stuff

779
00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:57,766
that we need to know more about.

780
00:32:57,766 --> 00:32:58,866
>>Okay. Oh, nice!

781
00:32:58,866 --> 00:33:00,133
>>What is this?

782
00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:02,666
>>Okay, so what we have 
here is a fossil turtle.

783
00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:05,200
I'm not entirely sure 
about the age of it.

784
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,566
But based on similar 
fossils that I've seen

785
00:33:07,566 --> 00:33:10,433
in the United States, 
it's probably Eocene.

786
00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:13,000
So that would be about 
53 million years old.

787
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,966
>>53 million years old.

788
00:33:15,966 --> 00:33:18,700
Is this a turtle shell or 
is it a fossil of a turtle?

789
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:20,500
>>Well, it's a 
fossil of a turtle.

790
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,866
But the original 
bone is still here.

791
00:33:22,866 --> 00:33:25,266
So it's it hasn't been replaced.

792
00:33:25,266 --> 00:33:26,200
>>Really?

793
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,400
>>Yeah. This is a young fossil.

794
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,300
>>So how does 
something fossilize?

795
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,500
>>Well, essentially, it 
gets buried in the ground

796
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,333
real rapidly, usually in 
a river type of system.

797
00:33:34,333 --> 00:33:37,066
When it's in embedded 
in the sediment,

798
00:33:37,066 --> 00:33:38,766
minerals that are 
inside the soil

799
00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:42,366
will start percolating 
and start replacing it.

800
00:33:42,366 --> 00:33:45,100
>>So, a flood would have 
come, taking it down,

801
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,600
there's some kind 
of water action

802
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
that would have sunk it down 
on the ground, and then just-

803
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,800
>>Covered it over 
and then mineralized

804
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,966
over hundreds of 
thousands of years.

805
00:33:52,966 --> 00:33:54,633
>>What was something 
like this value?

806
00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:56,966
>>Probably somewhere 
around $400?

807
00:33:56,966 --> 00:33:58,166
Maybe a little bit more.

808
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,966
>>So what do we have here?

809
00:34:01,966 --> 00:34:05,866
>>Okay, these look like 
crinoid stems and corals.

810
00:34:05,866 --> 00:34:09,800
So this probably would have 
been from a warm tropical sea,

811
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,666
probably from upstate New York.

812
00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:15,133
This would be approximately 
400 million years old.

813
00:34:15,133 --> 00:34:16,100
>>That is old.

814
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,600
>>Good stuff.

815
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,133
Most of New York State was a 
warm tropical state back then.

816
00:34:20,133 --> 00:34:20,933
>>All right.

817
00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:22,500
>>We got a ton of stuff.

818
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,700
>>Yeah. What about this?

819
00:34:24,700 --> 00:34:27,066
>>Unfortunately, what 
you think is there,

820
00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:29,133
isn't really what's there.

821
00:34:29,133 --> 00:34:31,000
>>So I was gonna ask 
you, is this showmanship?

822
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,400
Like it looks like these 
are teeth from different-

823
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,800
>>Right, these are actual teeth

824
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,000
and these are actually bones

825
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,800
but they have put them together.

826
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,966
So you usually don't 
find them like this.

827
00:34:40,966 --> 00:34:42,500
Usually when you 
find stuff like this,

828
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,600
it's more disarticulated.

829
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,033
These are teeth from a 
carnivorous fish, a salmon.

830
00:34:48,033 --> 00:34:50,433
And then these are just 
some bones that they found.

831
00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:51,266
>>It's salmon?

832
00:34:51,266 --> 00:34:52,466
>>Salmon. Giant salmon.

833
00:34:52,466 --> 00:34:53,933
>>How big a salmon is that?

834
00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:55,633
>>A bit- would have been 
good eating that's for sure

835
00:34:55,633 --> 00:34:57,166
>>My gosh!

836
00:34:57,166 --> 00:34:58,400
>>I wouldn't want to 
see a thing swimming up-

837
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,466
>>So these are the 
fangs of the salmon.

838
00:35:00,466 --> 00:35:02,866
>>Wow, that's the 
teeth of a fish.

839
00:35:02,866 --> 00:35:04,300
>>And then the this would be-

840
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,300
>>I think I'd rather 
see a crocodile.

841
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:08,466
>>Oh boy.

842
00:35:08,466 --> 00:35:11,033
>>Then an actual salmon 
that big. My gosh.

843
00:35:11,033 --> 00:35:13,533
>>And this is from the end 
of the age of dinosaurs.

844
00:35:13,533 --> 00:35:16,666
So this would be about 
65 million years old.

845
00:35:16,666 --> 00:35:18,766
>>What would 
something like this?

846
00:35:18,766 --> 00:35:20,266
How would that be valued?

847
00:35:20,266 --> 00:35:22,100
>>Realistically, I 
would probably put

848
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:24,366
at least maybe $400 or $500.

849
00:35:24,366 --> 00:35:25,500
>>Okay.

850
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:29,033
Okay, here is the last item.

851
00:35:29,033 --> 00:35:30,533
What do you know about this?

852
00:35:30,533 --> 00:35:34,500
>>Okay, so this was found 
in Minas Gerais, Brazil.

853
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,566
It's one of the largest 
states in Brazil.

854
00:35:37,566 --> 00:35:40,566
This was encased in a lava flow.

855
00:35:40,566 --> 00:35:43,300
That happened about 
250 million years ago.

856
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:47,566
So lava erupted, gathered 
gas bubbles inside the lava.

857
00:35:47,566 --> 00:35:49,266
And then sometime 
at a later date,

858
00:35:49,266 --> 00:35:50,400
the Amethyst came in

859
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,533
and crystallized 
inside the gas bubbles.

860
00:35:52,533 --> 00:35:56,233
>>When Derek told us 
how old this geode was,

861
00:35:56,233 --> 00:35:57,766
it blew my mind.

862
00:35:57,766 --> 00:36:00,066
I mean, I'm holding something 
that's millions of years old.

863
00:36:00,066 --> 00:36:03,266
I can understand why this 
was so special to Frank

864
00:36:03,266 --> 00:36:04,500
and to his family.

865
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,033
But I know this is 
one of the the items

866
00:36:07,033 --> 00:36:10,400
that got him excited about 
natural history in general.

867
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,933
>>Yeah, cause the outside

868
00:36:11,933 --> 00:36:13,466
looks just like a regular rock.

869
00:36:13,466 --> 00:36:15,533
You'd never know what 
goes on the inside.

870
00:36:17,166 --> 00:36:20,200
>>On the outside, it's 
just a plain old rock.

871
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,866
But when you crack it 
open, there's a surprise.

872
00:36:23,866 --> 00:36:26,133
Beautiful crystals, thousands,

873
00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:28,433
even millions of 
years in the making.

874
00:36:29,833 --> 00:36:33,166
Geodes start out as 
bubbles in rocks.

875
00:36:33,166 --> 00:36:36,033
Some air pockets come 
from volcanic activity.

876
00:36:36,033 --> 00:36:40,033
Others start as hollows in 
tree roots and animal burrows.

877
00:36:40,033 --> 00:36:43,766
Over time, groundwater 
seeps into the empty spaces

878
00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:45,933
and the layers of 
minerals from the water

879
00:36:45,933 --> 00:36:48,433
slowly build crystals.

880
00:36:48,433 --> 00:36:52,100
Flash forward a few hundred 
million years and voila,

881
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,066
you've got yourself 
one of mother nature's

882
00:36:54,066 --> 00:36:56,133
most significant works of art.

883
00:36:57,266 --> 00:37:00,866
Like snowflakes, no two 
geodes are the same.

884
00:37:00,866 --> 00:37:04,300
Different crystals like clear 
quartz, purple Amethyst,

885
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,600
calcite, agate, and dolomite

886
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,166
create unique patterns, 
colors and sizes.

887
00:37:10,166 --> 00:37:12,700
Geodes are found 
in many US states.

888
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:16,066
But if you are a real 
rockhound, try Iowa,

889
00:37:16,066 --> 00:37:18,466
where the geode is the 
official state rock

890
00:37:18,466 --> 00:37:21,233
and home to Geode State Park.

891
00:37:21,233 --> 00:37:23,433
Located at the confluence 
of the Des Moines

892
00:37:23,433 --> 00:37:24,966
and Mississippi rivers,

893
00:37:24,966 --> 00:37:29,166
Keokuk, Iowa is the geode 
capital of the world.

894
00:37:29,166 --> 00:37:32,366
A Keokuk geode can range 
from three or four inches

895
00:37:32,366 --> 00:37:34,066
to two feet in length.

896
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,400
No matter where you 
are in the world,

897
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,700
these hidden gems are 
waiting to be discovered

898
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:43,366
right under your feet.

899
00:37:46,033 --> 00:37:48,100
>>Is there a financial value 
on something like this?

900
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:48,933
>>Oh, absolutely.

901
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,166
Something like this,

902
00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:52,833
I would probably put 
about $600-$700 on it.

903
00:37:52,833 --> 00:37:54,533
>>Thank you so much.

904
00:37:54,533 --> 00:37:55,766
>>Thank you for coming in.

905
00:37:55,766 --> 00:37:57,033
>>This will help us 
get back to the family

906
00:37:57,033 --> 00:37:58,633
and kind of let them 
know what they have.

907
00:38:00,933 --> 00:38:03,500
(upbeat music)

908
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,966
>>Not only did we 
have to downsize

909
00:38:08,966 --> 00:38:11,366
this huge collection 
in the basement,

910
00:38:11,366 --> 00:38:14,966
but Annemarie's mom 
Nancy was moving.

911
00:38:14,966 --> 00:38:16,566
So there was a lot 
of moving pieces,

912
00:38:16,566 --> 00:38:18,533
and we had to stay on task.

913
00:38:23,433 --> 00:38:24,400
>>I'm here with 
the granddaughters.

914
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,100
I got one question for you:

915
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,600
What was it like to grow 
up with your grandfather?

916
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,100
>>It was amazing.

917
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,033
He had so much 
stuff in his house.

918
00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:36,200
So every time we went there, 
he would show us new things,

919
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,466
he would show us new 
things about culture

920
00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:39,700
that we didn't know.

921
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:41,833
So it was kind of like 
having a second teacher.

922
00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:43,900
And we learned so much from him.

923
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:47,600
>>I mean, I remember 
as a very small child

924
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,066
putting on a pair 
of cotton gloves

925
00:38:49,066 --> 00:38:51,933
and going into his his workshop

926
00:38:51,933 --> 00:38:55,033
and cleaning a nest 
of turtle eggs.

927
00:38:55,033 --> 00:38:57,866
He would bring those kinds of 
things into our classrooms.

928
00:38:57,866 --> 00:38:59,200
>>I've been lucky, I've 
been going through a lot

929
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,466
of stuff, and I get to 
see all of his notes.

930
00:39:02,466 --> 00:39:04,866
Just been really neat to 
get to learn his brain.

931
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,200
From what I hear both of you 
were really influenced by him.

932
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,400
>>Definitely.

933
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,066
>>What are you doing 
now as a career?

934
00:39:12,066 --> 00:39:14,500
>>I am in nursing 
school currently.

935
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:18,866
And he's really taught me 
that being a nice human being

936
00:39:18,866 --> 00:39:23,666
and being educated is really 
key to helping other people.

937
00:39:23,666 --> 00:39:25,800
So then I found 
my way to nursing.

938
00:39:26,666 --> 00:39:28,533
>>I just recently graduated

939
00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:31,033
with a master's in 
linguistics from Oxford.

940
00:39:31,033 --> 00:39:33,766
And that was something I've 
always talked about with him.

941
00:39:33,766 --> 00:39:36,966
There's nothing in my 
life that hasn't been

942
00:39:36,966 --> 00:39:40,100
in some way kind of touched 
by his love of learning.

943
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,266
>>His presence is large, 
even in a house he's not in,

944
00:39:43,266 --> 00:39:45,700
he's clearly here with 
everybody I've met.

945
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,700
This collection was 
awesome. But it's huge.

946
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,300
And I just need help 
going through it.

947
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,200
So I brought in a local 
expert that can come in

948
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,500
and help us really start to 
get a hold of what's it worth

949
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:57,900
because at some point,

950
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,366
this family's gonna 
have to liquidate it

951
00:39:59,366 --> 00:40:00,633
and we want to give them

952
00:40:00,633 --> 00:40:02,400
as much information 
up front as we can.

953
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,000
>>Charlie, thank 
you for coming in.

954
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,233
>>Thanks for having me.

955
00:40:05,233 --> 00:40:06,866
>>I've got a table 
laid out for us.

956
00:40:06,866 --> 00:40:09,100
It's kind of just a 
representation of his 
entire collection.

957
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,500
He's got a lot of interest 
in a lot of things,

958
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,033
and I just need some help 
kind of understanding

959
00:40:13,033 --> 00:40:14,300
what we really have here.

960
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:15,533
>>Okay.

961
00:40:15,533 --> 00:40:17,666
>>We're gonna jump 
right into baskets.

962
00:40:17,666 --> 00:40:20,800
>>So this says 19th century 
Native American plains

963
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,700
woven, gathering, bird basket

964
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:24,700
from the Colorado 
Kansas border area,

965
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,266
most likely Arapaho.

966
00:40:26,266 --> 00:40:28,900
What makes this one 
unusual, very unusual,

967
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:31,833
is that it's hybrid, which 
actually you don't see a lot,

968
00:40:31,833 --> 00:40:34,700
and he has a lot of 
baskets in his collection.

969
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,366
This one is really interesting.

970
00:40:37,366 --> 00:40:40,700
Because first of all, 
as a native basket,

971
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:42,333
even when you find 
period baskets,

972
00:40:42,333 --> 00:40:45,500
and many of them are not, 
it's not all unravel.

973
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,400
If you look at all 
this work here,

974
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,100
probably have seen maybe 
half a dozen of these, ever.

975
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,033
I really want to know 
more about that one,

976
00:40:54,033 --> 00:40:55,533
because that kind of thing

977
00:40:55,533 --> 00:40:58,333
that probably would want to 
end up in a museum or someone

978
00:40:58,333 --> 00:40:59,300
who are really quite 
high in collecting.

979
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,833
>>You know, it's funny,

980
00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:03,566
I think they care more about 
something going into a museum

981
00:41:03,566 --> 00:41:06,233
than they did about 
getting paid for it.

982
00:41:06,233 --> 00:41:07,233
>>That may very well be,

983
00:41:07,233 --> 00:41:08,466
because that's your legacy.

984
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:09,700
>>Yeah, and that's 
what this guy,

985
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,400
it's all about legacy 
with this family.

986
00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:14,366
>>Of course, something 
like this radio right here

987
00:41:14,366 --> 00:41:17,533
was state of the art in the 
1920s, as good as it got.

988
00:41:17,533 --> 00:41:20,366
So things like the tubes 
that are in here, right,

989
00:41:20,366 --> 00:41:24,166
everything in here was made 
with the top level technology.

990
00:41:24,166 --> 00:41:25,600
>>So you would have 
president speaking,

991
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,900
you would have-

992
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,033
>>The family sitting around the

993
00:41:29,033 --> 00:41:31,800
living room with this radio.

994
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,900
And that's a big deal.

995
00:41:34,166 --> 00:41:35,366
>>Here we go.

996
00:41:35,366 --> 00:41:36,933
>>Bakelite, that's a 
great piece of Bakelite.

997
00:41:36,933 --> 00:41:39,066
And look at the beads. I 
mean, the beads are great.

998
00:41:39,066 --> 00:41:40,933
You'd expect this to be broke.

999
00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:42,300
I mean, this should be broken.

1000
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:44,066
It's got stress points.

1001
00:41:44,066 --> 00:41:46,166
So one of the things that 
we look at for values,

1002
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:47,433
I mean, there's a lot of things,

1003
00:41:47,433 --> 00:41:48,866
we look at rarity, 
we look at design,

1004
00:41:48,866 --> 00:41:50,800
but one of the things is 
condition, condition, condition.

1005
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,300
And you don't find things 
like that, they're gone.

1006
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:57,200
To the right collector, I'm 
sure that a purse like that

1007
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,666
is gonna be probably 
three to five hundred.

1008
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:03,433
>>All right, I may be the 
only person in America

1009
00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:05,166
that finds this interesting.

1010
00:42:05,166 --> 00:42:08,866
But one, I'm shocked that 
there's all of this hair,

1011
00:42:08,866 --> 00:42:10,300
hair locks everywhere.

1012
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:13,633
Even more shocked 
that they're certified

1013
00:42:13,633 --> 00:42:15,333
by places like Christie's.

1014
00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:18,300
It's interesting that you can 
collect hair of famous people.

1015
00:42:19,233 --> 00:42:20,733
And I'm even more interested

1016
00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:24,500
that no one has asked me 
for a lock of my own hair.

1017
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:25,666
>>Can I have a 
lock of your hair?

1018
00:42:25,666 --> 00:42:27,166
>>Yes, you may, 
thank you for asking!

1019
00:42:27,166 --> 00:42:28,700
All right, I will certify this.

1020
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,100
Do you ever see...

1021
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:32,733
I know this has got to be 
a place where people...

1022
00:42:32,733 --> 00:42:35,333
Not so sure about it.

1023
00:42:35,333 --> 00:42:36,566
>>So there's a couple of things

1024
00:42:36,566 --> 00:42:38,300
that go along with 
these types of things.

1025
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:42,100
One is, you know, we want to 
know, where did it come from?

1026
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:45,200
How do we know that it is 
the hair that the person?

1027
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,066
The other thing is if 
you just think about it,

1028
00:42:47,066 --> 00:42:49,700
it's a relatively narrow market.

1029
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,033
Pricing wise, it's a 
difficult thing to-

1030
00:42:53,033 --> 00:42:55,000
>>Well, you only 
need two people.

1031
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,666
>>Well, of course, you 
know, one of the things

1032
00:42:57,666 --> 00:43:01,800
that, I'm gonna guess, that 
this is an area of collecting,

1033
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,066
that may or may not be more 
interesting in the future,

1034
00:43:05,066 --> 00:43:10,066
just because if a hair is really 
associated with the person,

1035
00:43:11,233 --> 00:43:12,733
then there's DNA that 
goes along with it.

1036
00:43:12,733 --> 00:43:15,466
So you're really not collecting 
hair. You're collecting DNA.

1037
00:43:15,466 --> 00:43:18,000
>>Which, you say 
like that, gosh,

1038
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,066
you got like a Jurassic 
Park but for people.

1039
00:43:21,966 --> 00:43:23,233
It's interesting.

1040
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,866
All right, I saved 
the paper for last.

1041
00:43:27,866 --> 00:43:29,266
>>What we had in this house-

1042
00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:30,666
>>Cases and cases of this.

1043
00:43:30,666 --> 00:43:34,800
>>There are many hundreds 
of old newspapers.

1044
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,100
Here's a paper from 1775.

1045
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:38,800
This is the British 
Evening Post.

1046
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,266
What we like about 
this, this is old paper.

1047
00:43:42,266 --> 00:43:46,466
And because this is old paper, 
it's not made from tree pulp.

1048
00:43:46,466 --> 00:43:48,233
This is gonna be very readable

1049
00:43:48,233 --> 00:43:51,200
and very stable for 
hundreds of years.

1050
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,433
>>250 year old paper.

1051
00:43:52,433 --> 00:43:54,333
>>That says the 
American colonies

1052
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:55,166
want to break away.

1053
00:43:55,166 --> 00:43:56,633
How dare they?

1054
00:43:56,633 --> 00:43:59,466
So I think that that's really 
interesting. I like that.

1055
00:43:59,466 --> 00:44:01,266
>>Well, what does it say 
about a man like this?

1056
00:44:01,266 --> 00:44:02,633
I mean, you've seen a 
very vast collection.

1057
00:44:02,633 --> 00:44:04,666
You know, there's 
lots of other things.

1058
00:44:04,666 --> 00:44:06,800
>>Yeah, I think it's 
an amazing collection.

1059
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,300
This is someone who has a 
quick and a curious mind,

1060
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:11,766
that's always thinking 
and always looking

1061
00:44:11,766 --> 00:44:13,933
and always desperate 
to see something

1062
00:44:13,933 --> 00:44:15,566
and tries to make 
those connections.

1063
00:44:15,566 --> 00:44:17,666
But it's not like it's atopic.

1064
00:44:17,666 --> 00:44:20,366
It's not like he was fixated 
with the Revolutionary War.

1065
00:44:20,366 --> 00:44:22,766
It's not like he was 
fixated with World War II.

1066
00:44:22,766 --> 00:44:24,233
He would just look 
at something he says,

1067
00:44:24,233 --> 00:44:25,366
Oh my gosh, look at this.

1068
00:44:25,366 --> 00:44:26,533
Oh, my gosh, look at this.

1069
00:44:26,533 --> 00:44:28,233
And then he's 
making connections.

1070
00:44:28,233 --> 00:44:31,466
And I'll bet you long before 
there was an internet,

1071
00:44:31,466 --> 00:44:35,633
he was going to every garage 
sale, every flea market,

1072
00:44:35,633 --> 00:44:37,466
every auction that 
he could go to.

1073
00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:41,900
For him the thrill was 
not the ownership of it,

1074
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:43,633
but the research on it.

1075
00:44:43,633 --> 00:44:44,566
And I like that.

1076
00:44:44,566 --> 00:44:45,600
>>Dude, thank you for coming.

1077
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,766
I really appreciate it, man.

1078
00:44:46,766 --> 00:44:47,866
>>Thanks a lot.

1079
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,866
>>All ready? I'm gonna 
open the door for you.

1080
00:44:56,866 --> 00:44:59,566
After spending a few days 
helping this family downsize,

1081
00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:01,166
I was really excited 
to bring them in

1082
00:45:01,166 --> 00:45:03,066
and to show them the 
work we had done.

1083
00:45:05,866 --> 00:45:06,700
Come on in!

1084
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:09,466
What do you think? 
It's been a while.

1085
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:12,166
>>Oh my gosh.

1086
00:45:12,166 --> 00:45:13,333
>>How long has it been 
since you went over

1087
00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:14,533
to see the whole garage?

1088
00:45:15,366 --> 00:45:16,733
>>20 years.

1089
00:45:16,733 --> 00:45:18,166
>>When we bought the house.

1090
00:45:18,166 --> 00:45:20,766
>>A lot of space. Annemarie, 
what'd you do with it?

1091
00:45:20,766 --> 00:45:23,500
>>Oh, I'm gonna try and 
find something to do

1092
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:24,766
with it before my husband does.

1093
00:45:24,766 --> 00:45:26,933
>>Oh my goodness, 
this is wonderful.

1094
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:30,533
>>This is kind of an 
appetizer just to get you

1095
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:32,466
excited to know 
that it can be done.

1096
00:45:32,466 --> 00:45:33,700
Let's get into the basement

1097
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,600
and actually see the 
rest of the space.

1098
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:41,433
(cheerful music)

1099
00:45:41,433 --> 00:45:43,266
(Nancy laughing)

1100
00:45:43,266 --> 00:45:45,266
[Matt] What do you think?

1101
00:45:45,266 --> 00:45:46,800
>>Oh my gosh.

1102
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,533
>>Come over here with me, 
I'll show you what we did.

1103
00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:49,333
>>Oh, wow.

1104
00:45:50,666 --> 00:45:54,366
>>Lots of space. Your 
husband helped us a lot here.

1105
00:45:54,366 --> 00:45:57,600
He had really 
labeled everything.

1106
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,566
And so all we had to do was 
basically get it out of the way

1107
00:46:00,566 --> 00:46:01,833
and then set up the shelves

1108
00:46:01,833 --> 00:46:03,633
and then put it the way 
he had it organized.

1109
00:46:03,633 --> 00:46:06,066
He knew where 
everything wanted to go.

1110
00:46:06,066 --> 00:46:07,766
And then this was the best part.

1111
00:46:07,766 --> 00:46:10,766
The stuff he wasn't sure about, 
he hadn't gone through yet,

1112
00:46:10,766 --> 00:46:11,766
is right behind you.

1113
00:46:14,033 --> 00:46:17,400
>>You know, it's 
amazing. Really, totally.

1114
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,466
>>But one of the 
other goals for me

1115
00:46:20,466 --> 00:46:22,500
was to get this thing 
ready for you to actually,

1116
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:24,900
if you do want to sell 
it, go through box to box,

1117
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:26,233
pick what you want to keep.

1118
00:46:26,233 --> 00:46:28,033
But now an appraiser 
coming here,

1119
00:46:28,033 --> 00:46:31,200
pretty quickly let you 
know what they can do.

1120
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,433
>>It's great.

1121
00:46:32,433 --> 00:46:34,000
>>Okay, now I want to 
do my favorite part.

1122
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,900
I want to go upstairs. We're 
gonna get (indistinct),

1123
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,033
and we're gonna go through 
the entire legacy list.

1124
00:46:40,066 --> 00:46:40,900
>>You ready?

1125
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:42,233
>>Yes.

1126
00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:43,500
>>All right. Let's do it.

1127
00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:47,666
(gentle cheerful music)

1128
00:46:49,866 --> 00:46:52,833
So this is really the first 
time I wish I had my kids here.

1129
00:46:54,233 --> 00:46:57,000
I got to look at 
dinosaur poop this week.

1130
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,266
I got to hold a medieval axe.

1131
00:47:00,266 --> 00:47:03,700
I even got to look at 
John Lennon's hair.

1132
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:04,633
(all giggling)

1133
00:47:04,633 --> 00:47:06,566
This is not a normal week.

1134
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:10,533
For you guys I think it's-

1135
00:47:10,533 --> 00:47:11,533
>>It's normal.

1136
00:47:11,533 --> 00:47:12,900
>>It's normal.

1137
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,833
>>It's not normal 
for most people.

1138
00:47:14,833 --> 00:47:17,300
It was awesome. It 
was really cool.

1139
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:18,900
It's really special. It was fun.

1140
00:47:20,866 --> 00:47:23,000
And it's more I got 
to know about Frank.

1141
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,966
I think that was his point.

1142
00:47:24,966 --> 00:47:27,433
Especially getting to talk 
to you guys this week,

1143
00:47:27,433 --> 00:47:29,066
I got to hear your 
version of it.

1144
00:47:30,266 --> 00:47:32,266
And even when you're 
sad, you're smiling.

1145
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:36,500
All right, so I want to go 
through some of these items.

1146
00:47:37,933 --> 00:47:42,100
All right, first item you'd 
asked me for was the cunieform.

1147
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,366
This is what you 
asked me to find.

1148
00:47:46,366 --> 00:47:50,800
>>Yes, this is 
why I'm a teacher.

1149
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,833
This-- my father is the reason.

1150
00:47:54,833 --> 00:47:57,833
He was my greatest teacher.

1151
00:47:57,833 --> 00:48:00,900
He inspired me to 
want to be a teacher.

1152
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,633
And I teach kids how to write.

1153
00:48:05,766 --> 00:48:07,666
You know, and this 
is the first writing.

1154
00:48:07,666 --> 00:48:09,866
This is where it all began.

1155
00:48:09,866 --> 00:48:11,633
>>It's really cool.

1156
00:48:11,633 --> 00:48:14,966
All right, second item 
was a little different.

1157
00:48:17,166 --> 00:48:18,566
This is battery tester.

1158
00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:20,166
It's the one-- I 
better hand it to you.

1159
00:48:20,166 --> 00:48:21,700
What is that?

1160
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:22,966
>>This is a volt meter.

1161
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,800
When he was a teenager, 
he and his father

1162
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,466
used to repair televisions 
when you could repair them

1163
00:48:29,466 --> 00:48:31,433
with tubes and everything.

1164
00:48:31,433 --> 00:48:34,766
This is his volt meter 
from like mid '40s on.

1165
00:48:35,933 --> 00:48:37,300
>>So it's where it started.

1166
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:39,666
>>Yeah, and it's hardly 
ever left his hand.

1167
00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:41,666
>>How does it make 
you feel to see that?

1168
00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:56,666
>>Sad.

1169
00:48:57,966 --> 00:48:59,400
But close.

1170
00:49:03,266 --> 00:49:04,500
This is Frank.

1171
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:08,566
It's a volt meter, but 
he repaired everything,

1172
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,233
he took care of things, he 
took care of his family,

1173
00:49:13,233 --> 00:49:16,233
he took care of our 
needs in the household,

1174
00:49:16,233 --> 00:49:19,800
he was always ready to step 
in and fix things, really,

1175
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,833
any problems, he's solved them.

1176
00:49:28,166 --> 00:49:29,133
Problem solver.

1177
00:49:33,033 --> 00:49:34,933
>>I keep saying, 
I wish I met him.

1178
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:38,833
You know, he created 
an amazing family.

1179
00:49:38,833 --> 00:49:40,666
Like, y'all know 
you're good people

1180
00:49:41,533 --> 00:49:42,766
but like, y'all are amazing.

1181
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:45,400
We haven't been here that long.

1182
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,666
We feel like we're a 
part of the family.

1183
00:49:46,666 --> 00:49:50,400
You know, it's just that 
comes from the top down.

1184
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,100
This is a very eclectic group.

1185
00:49:53,266 --> 00:49:55,233
Everything I bring 
out I've never gone

1186
00:49:55,233 --> 00:49:58,166
and one of the original 
things of writing,

1187
00:49:58,166 --> 00:49:59,466
then a battery tester.

1188
00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:03,366
Now a turtle fossil.

1189
00:50:03,366 --> 00:50:04,500
(all laughing)

1190
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:05,300
>>There it is!

1191
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,466
>>What do you guys 
know about that?

1192
00:50:09,466 --> 00:50:11,700
>>Well, I can't touch it

1193
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:13,433
because I don't have my 
little cotton gloves.

1194
00:50:13,433 --> 00:50:17,166
But I mean, I remember 
being in his workshop

1195
00:50:17,166 --> 00:50:21,700
and just cleaning it all the 
time him standing over me

1196
00:50:21,700 --> 00:50:25,066
and saying, "Can you 
believe this is millions

1197
00:50:25,066 --> 00:50:26,566
and millions of years old?"

1198
00:50:28,666 --> 00:50:31,500
>>So we took that to the museum

1199
00:50:32,666 --> 00:50:37,100
and believe it was 50 
million plus years old.

1200
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:38,500
>>Oh my gosh.

1201
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:40,766
>>I've never held anything over

1202
00:50:40,766 --> 00:50:42,300
50 million years old before.

1203
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:43,133
I have now.

1204
00:50:45,166 --> 00:50:47,600
All right, now we're 
getting into the good stuff.

1205
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,366
You asked me to 
find dinosaur eggs.

1206
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:57,666
I did not find 
dinosaur eggs, plural.

1207
00:50:57,666 --> 00:50:59,166
I did find a piece.

1208
00:51:01,033 --> 00:51:02,400
I'll take their word for it.

1209
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,733
One thing I want 
to ask Frank was,

1210
00:51:05,733 --> 00:51:08,966
did he ever have a clue 
about all the DNA stuff

1211
00:51:08,966 --> 00:51:11,266
that he had in this house?

1212
00:51:11,266 --> 00:51:13,000
Because the future 
of that science

1213
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,166
is really, really interesting.

1214
00:51:15,166 --> 00:51:17,100
And I wonder if he 
thought about that?

1215
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,833
>>He did. He talked about 
the future all the time.

1216
00:51:20,833 --> 00:51:24,833
He was very forward thinking. 
And he definitely did.

1217
00:51:26,366 --> 00:51:28,866
>>We got dinosaur 
DNA in this house.

1218
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:30,966
Nice.

1219
00:51:32,866 --> 00:51:33,933
The next item.

1220
00:51:33,933 --> 00:51:37,000
>>Ah!

1221
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,833
>>There it is.

1222
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,566
>>The geode.

1223
00:51:40,566 --> 00:51:42,933
All right, you all 
have spoken about it.

1224
00:51:44,233 --> 00:51:46,233
Tell me about this. 
How was it acquired?

1225
00:51:46,233 --> 00:51:49,300
>>We went to Colorado

1226
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:53,700
and we found a store 
that had geodes.

1227
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:56,233
And Frank was drawn 
to this geode.

1228
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:58,600
I don't know why.

1229
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,900
And actually, it probably 
started his rock collection.

1230
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,200
That's another collection.

1231
00:52:04,566 --> 00:52:07,266
>>This one stood on a 
pedestal in the living room,

1232
00:52:07,266 --> 00:52:11,366
in the TV room, right 
behind the couch.

1233
00:52:11,366 --> 00:52:12,866
And so whenever you walked in,

1234
00:52:12,866 --> 00:52:15,066
you know, between the 
kitchen, the living room,

1235
00:52:15,066 --> 00:52:16,800
every day that you 
were in the house,

1236
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,100
the geode was right there..

1237
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,033
>>I wanted to know 
what his legacy was.

1238
00:52:22,033 --> 00:52:25,866
>>The word that comes to 
mind for me, is discovery.

1239
00:52:25,866 --> 00:52:30,866
Because he was always 
pushing, pushing us to explore

1240
00:52:32,033 --> 00:52:34,133
and to, you know, turn 
over the next stone

1241
00:52:34,133 --> 00:52:38,366
and to really take 
in all the world

1242
00:52:38,366 --> 00:52:40,866
and everything and 
contribute to it.

1243
00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:43,566
>>I think he wanted us 
to experience so much

1244
00:52:43,566 --> 00:52:46,666
and so much out of life 
too and different cultures.

1245
00:52:46,666 --> 00:52:49,400
So I think experiences

1246
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,833
is what I think of when 
I think of my grandpa.

1247
00:52:52,833 --> 00:52:54,200
>>Nancy how about you?

1248
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:58,166
>>Definitely family, 
family first.

1249
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:03,666
But to open yourself 
up to new experiences,

1250
00:53:03,666 --> 00:53:05,800
to keep learning, 
to keep growing,

1251
00:53:06,966 --> 00:53:09,000
to be positive, to 
learn from mistakes,

1252
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,066
move forward, just keep moving.

1253
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,133
>>Annemarie, you got us 
here, you get the last word.

1254
00:53:16,133 --> 00:53:17,933
What are you thinking?

1255
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:23,433
>>I came across a poem 
from Maya Angelou,

1256
00:53:23,433 --> 00:53:27,900
there's one stanza 
that just struck me.

1257
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:30,800
It's called "When 
Great Trees Fall."

1258
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,666
So at the end of 
the poem, it says,

1259
00:53:33,666 --> 00:53:35,800
And when great souls die,

1260
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,233
after a period of peace blooms

1261
00:53:38,233 --> 00:53:41,200
slowly and always irregularly.

1262
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,400
Spaces filled with a kind of 
soothing electric vibration.

1263
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,933
Our senses restored 
never to be the same.

1264
00:53:48,933 --> 00:53:52,233
Whisper to us. They existed.

1265
00:53:52,233 --> 00:53:53,900
They existed.

1266
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:58,200
We can be, be and be 
better, for they existed.

1267
00:53:59,666 --> 00:54:03,533
And I kind of feel like that's 
where we are now as a family.

1268
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:08,533
Like, we're all better 
because he exists.

1269
00:54:15,133 --> 00:54:16,766
>>Grief's a crazy thing.

1270
00:54:16,766 --> 00:54:18,500
Life is cyclical as we see.

1271
00:54:20,366 --> 00:54:22,133
Someday you guys will be moms.

1272
00:54:22,133 --> 00:54:24,500
Someday you're 
gonna be a grandma.

1273
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:28,300
And they're gonna hear 
a lot about Frank,

1274
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,000
they're gonna hear a lot 
about this collection.

1275
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,533
And they're gonna know this guy

1276
00:54:32,533 --> 00:54:33,500
because he existed.

1277
00:54:34,966 --> 00:54:37,166
>>Thank you. 
>>Thank you guys.

1278
00:54:37,166 --> 00:54:38,700
>>Thank you very much for that.

1279
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,233
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1280
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,066
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1281
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1287
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00:55:34,333 --> 00:55:37,033
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1298
00:55:38,466 --> 00:55:41,000
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1299
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,033
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1300
00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:53,600
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1301
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,800
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1302
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1303
00:56:58,466 --> 00:57:01,366
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1304
00:57:01,366 --> 00:57:03,566
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