1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,133 (rhythmic music) 2 00:00:02,133 --> 00:00:03,066 - [Announcer] Coming up. 3 00:00:03,066 --> 00:00:05,133 Matt is in Birmingham, Alabama, 4 00:00:05,133 --> 00:00:07,666 to help two sisters downsize a home 5 00:00:07,666 --> 00:00:10,700 filled with cherished family mementos. 6 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:12,166 - Oh, look at these. - Yes. 7 00:00:12,166 --> 00:00:13,100 - No way. 8 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:14,266 - [Announcer] Many of the items 9 00:00:14,266 --> 00:00:16,700 date back to the Civil Rights Movement. 10 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:18,066 - Holy cow. 11 00:00:18,066 --> 00:00:19,833 Dr. King's funeral. 12 00:00:19,833 --> 00:00:21,566 - [Announcer] Emotions run high 13 00:00:21,566 --> 00:00:26,366 as the team literally holds history in their hands. 14 00:00:26,366 --> 00:00:29,066 - This particular job has had me feeling the most pain. 15 00:00:30,633 --> 00:00:31,733 - I'm Matt Paxton. 16 00:00:31,733 --> 00:00:32,533 Let's do it, man. 17 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:38,033 My team of specialists, Jaime, Mike, and Avi, 18 00:00:38,033 --> 00:00:42,966 help me help people downsize their homes and settle estates. 19 00:00:42,966 --> 00:00:45,033 As the largest population of baby boomers 20 00:00:45,033 --> 00:00:47,900 in American history transition towards retirement, 21 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:51,000 they and their families face the overwhelming task 22 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,133 of emptying their homes to move. 23 00:00:53,133 --> 00:00:55,766 We help them sift through a lifetime of possessions. 24 00:00:55,766 --> 00:00:56,733 - Bingo. 25 00:00:56,733 --> 00:00:58,200 - Heirlooms, and collectibles. 26 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,166 And we have literally-- - There it is. 27 00:00:59,166 --> 00:01:00,700 - Found a piece of history. 28 00:01:00,700 --> 00:01:03,333 To help them find the missing family treasures 29 00:01:03,333 --> 00:01:04,866 that mean the most to them. 30 00:01:04,866 --> 00:01:07,466 - Oh my goodness. - Jackie Robinson. 31 00:01:07,466 --> 00:01:09,000 And along the way, 32 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,966 they'll discover that the most important museum in the world 33 00:01:11,966 --> 00:01:14,166 may be in their family's basement. 34 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:15,700 - Oh. - Oh. 35 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:16,600 - I've never seen that. 36 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,066 That is cool looking. 37 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:20,700 - From attics to cellars, closets to cupboards, 38 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,466 we uncover the memories they want to preserve. 39 00:01:23,466 --> 00:01:24,933 This is living history. 40 00:01:24,933 --> 00:01:25,933 This is what we're here to find. 41 00:01:25,933 --> 00:01:27,133 Let's go. 42 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:28,900 And discover the compelling, personal 43 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:33,266 and often historical stories spanning generations 44 00:01:33,266 --> 00:01:35,200 that are their family's legacy. 45 00:01:40,566 --> 00:01:42,366 - [Announcer] Funding for "Legacy List" 46 00:01:42,366 --> 00:01:45,766 is provided by Wheaton Worldwide Moving. 47 00:01:45,766 --> 00:01:48,000 Wheaton's number one goal is to help you, 48 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,833 your loved ones, and your belongings, 49 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:52,533 get to your new home quickly and safely. 50 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:55,700 You can find us at wheatonworldwide.com. 51 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:58,666 Wheaton Worldwide Moving, we Move Your Life. 52 00:01:58,666 --> 00:02:00,233 FirstLight Home Care, 53 00:02:00,233 --> 00:02:02,533 committed to providing safe and compassionate home services 54 00:02:02,533 --> 00:02:04,500 for you and your family. 55 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,766 FirstLight believes personal relationships and engagement 56 00:02:06,766 --> 00:02:10,633 are as important as mobility, bathing, and personal hygiene. 57 00:02:10,633 --> 00:02:14,100 Details at firstlighthomecare.com. 58 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:19,066 ♪ Take me to place on a holiday ♪ 59 00:02:19,866 --> 00:02:22,800 ♪ A place on a holiday 60 00:02:26,366 --> 00:02:28,466 - Today I'm in Birmingham, Alabama 61 00:02:28,466 --> 00:02:30,766 on my way to meet Lisa McNair. 62 00:02:30,766 --> 00:02:32,633 She needs our help decluttering her house, 63 00:02:32,633 --> 00:02:35,800 because it is filled to the brim with family mementos. 64 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:39,933 This is gonna be a tough clean out, 65 00:02:39,933 --> 00:02:42,633 because this family's history is deeply connected 66 00:02:42,633 --> 00:02:44,366 to the struggle for Civil Rights. 67 00:02:49,166 --> 00:02:51,800 (door knocking) 68 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,266 Lisa, how are you? - How are you? 69 00:02:54,266 --> 00:02:55,666 - Good to see you. 70 00:02:55,666 --> 00:02:56,900 How are you? - Good to see you. 71 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:58,833 - Good to see you. - Who is this? 72 00:02:58,833 --> 00:02:59,900 - This is Banjo. 73 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:01,200 - Banjo, what's up. 74 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,600 - Banjo, this is our new friend, Matt. 75 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,933 He's gonna help us out. 76 00:03:04,933 --> 00:03:06,400 - This house is huge. 77 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,800 - Yes, my parents bought it in 1959. 78 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,966 - Okay. 79 00:03:09,966 --> 00:03:11,633 - And it was a little small house. 80 00:03:11,633 --> 00:03:12,833 - Okay. 81 00:03:12,833 --> 00:03:15,133 - So they've had two renovations since then. 82 00:03:16,566 --> 00:03:18,000 - Your parents have both passed away. 83 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,766 - Yeah, Mama passed away in January. 84 00:03:19,766 --> 00:03:21,233 - So she just passed? - Yeah, she just passed. 85 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:22,733 - So who lives here now? 86 00:03:22,733 --> 00:03:25,633 - Me, and my sister and her husband. 87 00:03:25,633 --> 00:03:27,100 - Okay. 88 00:03:27,266 --> 00:03:29,500 - Every bedroom has its own bath, so nobody is in the way. 89 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:31,166 - So, nobody on top of each other, okay. - Yeah. Yea 90 00:03:31,166 --> 00:03:32,433 - And what's the goal? 91 00:03:32,433 --> 00:03:34,100 - When Momma was alive and when she was well, 92 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:35,966 she was an excellent housekeeper, 93 00:03:35,966 --> 00:03:37,966 and so we'd like to start purging in 94 00:03:37,966 --> 00:03:40,300 and making it look nice again. 95 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:42,233 Like she would've wanted. 96 00:03:42,233 --> 00:03:44,466 - So I'm guessing we've got generations of stuff. 97 00:03:44,466 --> 00:03:46,233 - So many generations of things. 98 00:03:46,233 --> 00:03:47,833 - And it falls on you and your sister. 99 00:03:47,833 --> 00:03:49,200 - Right. - To deal with it. 100 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:56,233 - [Lisa] My older sister, Denise, 101 00:03:56,233 --> 00:03:57,433 was killed in the bombing 102 00:03:57,433 --> 00:04:00,900 of the 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963. 103 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,033 She was 11 when she was killed. 104 00:04:03,033 --> 00:04:04,800 - Man, what a heavy situation 105 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,066 to be such a big part of the Civil Rights Movement, 106 00:04:08,066 --> 00:04:11,266 and yet you never met her in real life. 107 00:04:11,266 --> 00:04:12,466 - Right, it's very odd. 108 00:04:13,866 --> 00:04:15,666 All my life, that picture has been in our den 109 00:04:15,666 --> 00:04:17,866 or in our living room. 110 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:19,200 Daddy shot that picture. 111 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,800 He was a professional photographer. 112 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,666 First African American legislature from this county, 113 00:04:24,666 --> 00:04:27,600 from an area that was not all Black. 114 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,033 So that was really a big deal. 115 00:04:30,033 --> 00:04:31,433 - Really big deal. 116 00:04:31,433 --> 00:04:34,566 - We all knew the story of the four girls dying 117 00:04:34,566 --> 00:04:36,800 in the bombing of 16th Street Baptist Church. 118 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,200 But it's a whole different thing 119 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,833 when you know that the grieving happened in these walls. 120 00:04:43,433 --> 00:04:46,733 - So this was mom and dad's master bedroom. 121 00:04:46,733 --> 00:04:48,566 - It was. - Yeah. 122 00:04:48,566 --> 00:04:52,033 - So it feels like the world's biggest linen closet. 123 00:04:52,033 --> 00:04:54,600 I see this in every house I go to. 124 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,100 As soon as a person passes away, 125 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:59,133 that room, people either don't want to go into it. 126 00:04:59,133 --> 00:04:59,933 - Yeah. 127 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:01,333 - [Matt] It's weird to go back into it or something. 128 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:02,733 - Yeah, we had some trouble going into it. 129 00:05:02,733 --> 00:05:03,666 - Okay, I get that. - Yeah. 130 00:05:03,666 --> 00:05:05,833 Well, we do want it purged and cleaned, 131 00:05:05,833 --> 00:05:08,766 just because I feel like Mama's spirit is saying, 132 00:05:08,766 --> 00:05:10,133 "If y'all don't clean my room, 133 00:05:10,133 --> 00:05:12,033 "I'm gonna come back and haunt you." 134 00:05:12,033 --> 00:05:13,833 - I'm afraid to ask this. 135 00:05:13,833 --> 00:05:15,100 What does the garage look like? 136 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:17,733 (Lisa laughing) 137 00:05:19,766 --> 00:05:21,800 - This is the garage. 138 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,433 Don't pass out. - Okay. 139 00:05:26,233 --> 00:05:28,900 I'm known for cleaning messy places. 140 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:31,400 This does not disappoint. 141 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,766 We can do it. - Yeah. 142 00:05:32,766 --> 00:05:34,366 - But, wow. - Yeah. 143 00:05:34,366 --> 00:05:36,566 - Do you think any of the Legacy List items, 144 00:05:36,566 --> 00:05:38,133 any kind of that stuff, will I find out here? 145 00:05:38,133 --> 00:05:40,233 - Do you mind? Yes. - Okay. 146 00:05:40,233 --> 00:05:42,100 - They might be in here because when Daddy died, 147 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:46,500 people just helped us straighten up the house 148 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:48,933 and move boxes out here. 149 00:05:48,933 --> 00:05:52,000 And so I'm not sure that things I thought were in the house 150 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,966 or not here, and I don't want anything to be lost. 151 00:05:54,966 --> 00:05:57,233 - Okay, and that is exactly why people call us. 152 00:05:57,233 --> 00:05:59,200 This is part of the goal that you brought us here. 153 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,500 You really need this space clean. 154 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:01,933 - I really need this space clean. 155 00:06:01,933 --> 00:06:03,366 - Okay, what will it be when we're done? 156 00:06:03,366 --> 00:06:06,000 - Well, I would like to put a car in here. 157 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,166 - Okay. 158 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:08,633 - I like this wall mostly to be 159 00:06:08,633 --> 00:06:11,500 where we have Kim's things 160 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:14,666 that she uses over here and maybe a table. 161 00:06:14,666 --> 00:06:16,766 - So some of Kim's stuff needs to stay, 162 00:06:16,766 --> 00:06:18,666 a little bit of your stuff needs to stay, 163 00:06:18,666 --> 00:06:20,633 and we're gonna go through some of your parents' stuff. 164 00:06:20,633 --> 00:06:23,233 And then really, I mean, 75% of this 165 00:06:23,233 --> 00:06:24,633 needs to get outta here. - Yeah. 166 00:06:24,633 --> 00:06:25,500 Needs to leave. 167 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:26,766 - Okay, all right. 168 00:06:26,766 --> 00:06:28,833 Before we get my team in here to start cleaning, 169 00:06:28,833 --> 00:06:30,700 let's go find a place to sit down 170 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:32,066 and go over the legacy list. 171 00:06:32,066 --> 00:06:34,900 - Sounds good. (mellow music) 172 00:06:39,633 --> 00:06:40,800 - I know you got history, 173 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,933 but y'all are struggling 174 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:44,733 with just normal problems of caretakers. 175 00:06:44,733 --> 00:06:47,100 You've been taking care of your family for a long time, 176 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:48,866 and now it's time for you and your sister 177 00:06:48,866 --> 00:06:50,566 to take care of yourself. - Right. 178 00:06:51,466 --> 00:06:53,233 - So let's go over, the physical work we need to do 179 00:06:53,233 --> 00:06:54,233 is pretty simple. 180 00:06:54,233 --> 00:06:55,733 We need to clean out this garage. - Right. 181 00:06:55,733 --> 00:06:58,200 - Make it a living space for you and your sister, 182 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,866 and hopefully get at least one car in there. 183 00:06:59,866 --> 00:07:00,766 - Um-hmm. 184 00:07:01,033 --> 00:07:01,733 - [Matt] And then hopefully we're gonna have time 185 00:07:01,733 --> 00:07:03,333 to get into your parents' room 186 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:04,166 and make that a better guest room. 187 00:07:04,166 --> 00:07:05,400 - Yes. - Okay. 188 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,566 - [Lisa] That's exactly right. 189 00:07:06,566 --> 00:07:08,733 - I need to hear about the legacy list. 190 00:07:08,733 --> 00:07:10,433 And as a reminder, a legacy list 191 00:07:10,433 --> 00:07:13,900 is a list of five or six items in your family 192 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:16,100 that really tell the family history and legacy 193 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:18,733 way beyond our time. 194 00:07:18,733 --> 00:07:19,900 - Okay. 195 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:21,400 - Some people need help finding the items. 196 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,333 Some people just need more information on those items. 197 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:24,566 - [Lisa] Okay. 198 00:07:24,566 --> 00:07:26,066 - So I'm anxious to hear what you got. 199 00:07:26,066 --> 00:07:29,966 - There's a trunk with some of her Denise's things in it. 200 00:07:29,966 --> 00:07:31,266 - Okay. - We had a art gallery, 201 00:07:31,266 --> 00:07:35,200 and my dad had a Denise Memorial Room. 202 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,966 So when we sold the business, 203 00:07:36,966 --> 00:07:40,033 we loaned all those items 204 00:07:40,033 --> 00:07:42,133 to the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute. 205 00:07:42,133 --> 00:07:43,400 - Okay. 206 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,333 - These are the things that we just have here 207 00:07:44,333 --> 00:07:46,566 that we never let them have. 208 00:07:46,566 --> 00:07:48,900 And it's a possibility that we could share them 209 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:51,633 with maybe another museum, the Smithsonian 210 00:07:51,633 --> 00:07:52,866 or something like that. - Okay. 211 00:07:52,866 --> 00:07:54,433 So some of those items that we find 212 00:07:54,433 --> 00:07:55,600 you'd be open to donating them. 213 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,233 - Yeah. - To other museums. 214 00:07:57,233 --> 00:07:58,300 Temporarily. - Yes, that's correct. 215 00:07:58,300 --> 00:07:59,633 - Okay. 216 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:07,533 - Next thing, anything pertaining to the bombing, 217 00:08:07,533 --> 00:08:11,133 There should be some books and telegrams 218 00:08:11,133 --> 00:08:14,900 and sympathy cards from that time. 219 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:17,966 I know there's a telegram from Dr. and Mrs. King, 220 00:08:17,966 --> 00:08:19,233 and I'd like to find that. 221 00:08:19,233 --> 00:08:20,733 - Yes. 222 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:24,266 - And then I think there's a telegram from Jackie Kennedy, 223 00:08:24,266 --> 00:08:25,900 and I'd like to find that. 224 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:28,700 I grew up after Denise was killed, 225 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:32,700 so I knew about her, always have known about her, 226 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:36,100 but it's weird because it's a piece of history 227 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:38,000 that you weren't a part of. 228 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,400 And so for now it's like, 229 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,366 how do I carry that legacy of her life on? 230 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:48,933 - What's your next item? 231 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:49,933 - Okay. 232 00:08:49,933 --> 00:08:50,933 Daddy's cameras. 233 00:08:50,933 --> 00:08:52,633 Daddy had a myriad of cameras. 234 00:08:52,633 --> 00:08:54,166 - Okay. 235 00:08:54,166 --> 00:08:55,866 - He was actually one of the many freelance photographers 236 00:08:55,866 --> 00:08:58,333 who worked for "Ebony" and "Jet Magazine". 237 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:03,200 So he has his own collection of historic negatives 238 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,533 during the movement, Dr. King and other famous people 239 00:09:06,533 --> 00:09:08,200 who came here to Birmingham. 240 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,700 - He was also taking pictures. 241 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:10,800 - Right. 242 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,000 - Not only participating in the history 243 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,100 as it happened in the city, 244 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:14,366 but he was documenting it as well. 245 00:09:14,366 --> 00:09:15,200 - Documenting it as well. 246 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,000 - Wow. - Yeah. 247 00:09:19,266 --> 00:09:20,533 - All right, what else do you have? 248 00:09:20,533 --> 00:09:22,133 - Congressional gold medal. 249 00:09:22,133 --> 00:09:24,433 - I've found a lot of things in my life. 250 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:26,866 I have not held one of these medals. 251 00:09:26,866 --> 00:09:29,800 And this was for your, I guess, all four girls? 252 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,100 - It was all four girls. 253 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:34,166 - So you got to sit in office with Obama? 254 00:09:34,166 --> 00:09:35,466 - I got to, got to go up in there. 255 00:09:35,466 --> 00:09:37,033 - What did your mom think about that? 256 00:09:37,033 --> 00:09:38,600 - You know, it's interesting. 257 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,100 She had Alzheimer's at that point, 258 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,866 so we were worried that she wouldn't really know 259 00:09:42,866 --> 00:09:43,800 what was going on. 260 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,866 She was on point that whole day. 261 00:09:46,866 --> 00:09:48,100 She was just really on point. 262 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:49,766 - She was back. - She was back. 263 00:09:49,766 --> 00:09:52,200 He was just so gracious and kind. 264 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,033 He took over the wheelchair. 265 00:09:54,033 --> 00:09:55,133 - He pushed it. 266 00:09:55,133 --> 00:09:58,066 - And he pushed her behind the desk next to him. 267 00:09:58,066 --> 00:09:59,266 (Lisa laughing) 268 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:01,366 - Not to be overly dramatic, but my God, 269 00:10:01,366 --> 00:10:05,366 to think of where your mom came in her life. 270 00:10:05,366 --> 00:10:09,966 From Birmingham, Alabama, a very challenging time, 271 00:10:09,966 --> 00:10:12,366 specifically, and raised relations, a challenging city, 272 00:10:12,366 --> 00:10:13,833 to say the least, 273 00:10:13,833 --> 00:10:15,000 all the way to being pushed around 274 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 by the first Black President. 275 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,166 - Yeah. - That is. 276 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:18,533 - That was very cool. - Amazing, ugh. 277 00:10:18,533 --> 00:10:20,133 - Very, very cool. 278 00:10:20,133 --> 00:10:21,533 Very, very cool. 279 00:10:21,533 --> 00:10:23,133 And he spoke so eloquently 280 00:10:23,133 --> 00:10:27,866 about the sacrifice of losing their child that they made, 281 00:10:27,866 --> 00:10:30,333 that he would not be where he is today. 282 00:10:30,333 --> 00:10:33,466 Were not for that sacrifice and many, many others. 283 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:35,866 And then I think he kissed her on the cheek. 284 00:10:35,866 --> 00:10:37,700 That, she all often talked about. 285 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:40,333 (Lisa laughing) 286 00:10:43,566 --> 00:10:45,066 So, two more. - All right. 287 00:10:45,066 --> 00:10:48,933 - The item I'm most looking for is some recordings. 288 00:10:48,933 --> 00:10:50,633 - Okay. - Of my mother. 289 00:10:50,633 --> 00:10:55,066 My mother was a classically trained vocalist, 290 00:10:55,066 --> 00:10:58,866 and she held a concert at 16th Street Baptist Church 291 00:10:58,866 --> 00:11:00,733 for their organ fund. 292 00:11:00,733 --> 00:11:02,966 And early 2000s, 293 00:11:02,966 --> 00:11:07,566 I had the reel to reels made to CDs. 294 00:11:07,566 --> 00:11:09,866 And I don't know where any of that is. 295 00:11:09,866 --> 00:11:11,766 - So we're looking for reel to reel and CDs? 296 00:11:11,766 --> 00:11:12,966 - Yeah. - Either one would be fine. 297 00:11:12,966 --> 00:11:14,233 - Yeah, either one would be fine. 298 00:11:14,233 --> 00:11:15,033 - All right. 299 00:11:19,233 --> 00:11:22,066 - The next item Kim really would like to find, 300 00:11:22,066 --> 00:11:24,000 and I'd love to have it too, 301 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,966 is Mama's Bible and her notes for prayer. 302 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,533 She would get up every morning and read a Bible, 303 00:11:33,533 --> 00:11:37,500 and then pray for the people in this spiral bound binder. 304 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:40,133 And she would just pray for everybody. 305 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:42,533 - Your mom sounds amazing. 306 00:11:42,533 --> 00:11:43,466 - She was. 307 00:11:43,466 --> 00:11:45,766 She was the best mama ever. 308 00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:47,966 - How long did she have Alzheimer's? 309 00:11:47,966 --> 00:11:50,333 - Diagnosed from '07. - Okay. 310 00:11:50,333 --> 00:11:52,133 - Until she died in January. 311 00:11:52,133 --> 00:11:53,433 Over the time, 312 00:11:53,433 --> 00:11:55,400 you just lose a little bit of your loved one. 313 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,900 It's the long goodbye. 314 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:59,200 So there've been periods over this last, 315 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,633 you know, 10, 15 years 316 00:12:00,633 --> 00:12:03,233 where I'll be in the car thinking about her, 317 00:12:03,233 --> 00:12:06,566 the big pieces of her that I've lost, 318 00:12:06,566 --> 00:12:08,733 and I just cried driving 319 00:12:08,733 --> 00:12:10,866 down the road, you know, missing her. 320 00:12:15,533 --> 00:12:17,800 - All right, well, we got a lot of stuff to find, 321 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,766 but we've got a whole lot of work to do in the garage, 322 00:12:20,766 --> 00:12:21,966 but I think we can do it. 323 00:12:21,966 --> 00:12:23,400 - [Lisa] Cool. 324 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,900 - We're gonna be real careful, 325 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:26,333 because I know the depth of the history of the things 326 00:12:26,333 --> 00:12:27,600 we're gonna find. 327 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,033 They really should be in museums. 328 00:12:29,033 --> 00:12:30,333 A lot of it. 329 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:31,433 - Thank you. - And we're super excited. 330 00:12:31,433 --> 00:12:33,166 - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 331 00:12:33,166 --> 00:12:34,966 - I am too. - Yeah. 332 00:12:34,966 --> 00:12:37,533 (mellow music) 333 00:12:44,966 --> 00:12:48,333 I got to learn a lot about Lisa and her family yesterday, 334 00:12:48,333 --> 00:12:50,700 and I'm glad I get to sit down with Kim today, 335 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:53,233 get to know her before my whole team arrives. 336 00:12:53,233 --> 00:12:55,066 What was it like when you moved back here? 337 00:12:55,066 --> 00:12:56,400 First of all, 338 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,900 when did you move back into this house? 339 00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:59,933 - So I moved back in 2011. 340 00:12:59,933 --> 00:13:01,366 My husband and I. 341 00:13:01,366 --> 00:13:04,000 I became primary caregiver of my parents 342 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,900 pretty much upon arrival. - Yeah. 343 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:08,233 - You just take a backseat 344 00:13:08,233 --> 00:13:10,400 to a lot of things that you've got going on. 345 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,033 - So you moved back home at 40, 346 00:13:12,033 --> 00:13:16,533 started a business, full-time caregiver to your mom. 347 00:13:16,533 --> 00:13:17,933 - And dad. - And dad at the time. 348 00:13:17,933 --> 00:13:19,433 - Um- hmm. 349 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:21,200 - Then both of them pass and Covid. 350 00:13:22,666 --> 00:13:24,600 I can see why the house is full. 351 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,833 - Yeah, yeah. 352 00:13:25,833 --> 00:13:27,066 - I call it survival mode. 353 00:13:27,066 --> 00:13:29,366 Last 10 years you've been in survival mode. 354 00:13:29,366 --> 00:13:30,866 - Yeah, yeah. 355 00:13:30,866 --> 00:13:32,866 - If I can just get up and then get mom taken care of, 356 00:13:32,866 --> 00:13:34,833 and then the next day it's all right, 357 00:13:34,833 --> 00:13:35,833 well, if I can just get to bed by 11. 358 00:13:35,833 --> 00:13:37,300 - Yeah, yeah. 359 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:38,600 - After meeting Kim and Lisa 360 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,600 it's really clear what needs to happen. 361 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,400 We need to clear this house 362 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,600 so they can get their lives back and move forward. 363 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,166 (upbeat music) 364 00:13:50,433 --> 00:13:52,433 - I was not expecting this. 365 00:13:52,433 --> 00:13:53,700 I see a big garage. 366 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:56,333 - This is huge. - Man it's huge. 367 00:13:56,333 --> 00:13:57,800 - Uh- oh. 368 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,900 - Oh, no, no. - No, no, no. 369 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:02,233 - Oh my gosh. 370 00:14:04,366 --> 00:14:05,933 - Well, don't you look comfortable. 371 00:14:05,933 --> 00:14:08,066 - Hey, y'all. - Oh my God. 372 00:14:08,066 --> 00:14:11,100 - You have truly embraced the southern lifestyle. 373 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:12,766 - We're in Alabama. 374 00:14:12,766 --> 00:14:14,666 - That has to be sweet tea though, right? 375 00:14:14,666 --> 00:14:15,900 - It is, it's pretty good. 376 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:17,633 It's a calm before the storm, I would say. 377 00:14:17,633 --> 00:14:19,466 - That's what I was worried about. 378 00:14:19,466 --> 00:14:21,000 - Yeah. - Big house. 379 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,566 - Huge house. - Huge house. 380 00:14:22,566 --> 00:14:23,800 - Yeah. 381 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,033 - So it started off as a tiny little house. 382 00:14:25,033 --> 00:14:26,233 That's where the family moved here, 383 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:28,333 and then they added on twice. 384 00:14:28,333 --> 00:14:29,600 - Wow. - And now 385 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,700 mom and dad have both passed away recently. 386 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:33,900 And it's the two sisters. 387 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:34,833 - Okay. - Lisa and Kim, 388 00:14:34,833 --> 00:14:36,300 they live here, 389 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:39,266 but they all live in one little section of it. 390 00:14:39,266 --> 00:14:40,300 - Why? 391 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:41,833 - Well, it's one of these things 392 00:14:41,833 --> 00:14:44,600 where they both moved back to take care of their mom. 393 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,900 And so for the last decade, 394 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:47,600 they've really been caretakers in this home. 395 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,366 - Wow. 396 00:14:48,733 --> 00:14:50,433 - So although it's their home and they grew up in it, 397 00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:52,433 it really hadn't been their home. 398 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:54,533 They both run their own businesses. 399 00:14:54,533 --> 00:14:57,000 So they have the space to run their business here. 400 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,300 I think they love this house. 401 00:14:58,300 --> 00:15:00,200 And I sent you guys the research with. 402 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,733 - Yeah. Their sister Denise, 403 00:15:01,733 --> 00:15:04,333 when everything that happened at 16th Street Baptist Church, 404 00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:06,933 like there's real history in this house. 405 00:15:06,933 --> 00:15:07,466 - Yeah. 406 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:09,133 - And they're kind of afraid to touch it. 407 00:15:09,133 --> 00:15:10,633 And then they've got the normal respect 408 00:15:10,633 --> 00:15:12,433 for their mom and their dad and all of that stuff. 409 00:15:12,433 --> 00:15:13,966 - I mean, even in this process, 410 00:15:13,966 --> 00:15:15,266 they're still taking care of mom. 411 00:15:15,266 --> 00:15:17,466 I mean, it's still trying to take care of-- 412 00:15:17,466 --> 00:15:20,933 - They're more concerned about preserving 413 00:15:20,933 --> 00:15:22,866 their sister's history and their mom's history 414 00:15:22,866 --> 00:15:24,366 and their dad's history. - Yeah. 415 00:15:24,366 --> 00:15:26,866 - Than they are about having their own life in this space. 416 00:15:26,866 --> 00:15:27,800 - Yeah. 417 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:28,733 - And I think that's gonna be 418 00:15:28,733 --> 00:15:29,966 one of our challenges this week, 419 00:15:29,966 --> 00:15:31,700 is to get them to think of this as their home. 420 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:33,133 - Yeah. 421 00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:34,466 - Mike, you got your hands full of the garage. 422 00:15:34,466 --> 00:15:35,933 - Okay. 423 00:15:35,933 --> 00:15:37,400 - I'm here for you, I'm here for you. 424 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,033 - Well, here's the good news. 425 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:40,233 We're in Alabama. 426 00:15:40,233 --> 00:15:43,000 Every room is hot. (Avi laughing) 427 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,466 - There's no difference. 428 00:15:44,466 --> 00:15:46,400 So you'll just be a little closer to the outside. 429 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,866 Avi and I, we're gonna hit a couple of the rooms inside. 430 00:15:48,866 --> 00:15:51,000 I sent you guys the full legacy list. 431 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,900 We know it's here, 432 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:54,966 but we don't have a clue where it was put. 433 00:15:54,966 --> 00:15:56,200 - Yeah. 434 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,400 - This is gonna be a big gift for them 435 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,666 to get this thing organized and livable. 436 00:15:59,666 --> 00:16:01,900 - Yeah, I mean, the history's never gonna go away, 437 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:03,933 but we can make their life easier 438 00:16:03,933 --> 00:16:06,300 by organizing everything for 'em. 439 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:07,533 - We'll be waiting for our sweet tea. 440 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:08,766 - All right, we'll see you this afternoon. 441 00:16:08,766 --> 00:16:09,800 - Yeah, I'll be holding my breath. 442 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,600 - [Avi] Big maybe. 443 00:16:21,033 --> 00:16:22,400 There's so much here to go through. 444 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,566 - All right. - Okay. 445 00:16:23,566 --> 00:16:24,800 - Lots to go through in here, man. 446 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,166 So this is where they lived. 447 00:16:27,166 --> 00:16:30,100 - Okay, it's a good chance we might find quite a bit here. 448 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:32,400 I mean, just based on them being in this room a lot. 449 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,266 - Yeah, I mean, from my experience with clients, 450 00:16:34,266 --> 00:16:37,766 like they hide their most important things where they are. 451 00:16:37,766 --> 00:16:39,333 All right, let's clear this off. 452 00:16:39,333 --> 00:16:40,800 - That's a good idea, I think. 453 00:16:42,233 --> 00:16:45,700 Oh, I need a central place to bring some things. 454 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:48,966 - Love being in a hot garage with you. 455 00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:51,133 Oh, what are we walking into? 456 00:16:51,133 --> 00:16:51,933 Oh. - Oh. 457 00:16:54,066 --> 00:16:57,300 - Oh my God. (both laughing) 458 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:00,366 - All right, okay, deep breath. 459 00:17:00,366 --> 00:17:02,400 - Yeah, tell me, walk me through it. 460 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,333 - Okay, we've got three generations 461 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:09,300 and two small businesses right here. 462 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:12,100 - Garages are great spaces to store things, 463 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:14,266 because you can shut both doors 464 00:17:14,266 --> 00:17:16,200 and you don't have to see what's in there. 465 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 - The good news is, I think we do anything in here, 466 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,966 it's gonna look way better. 467 00:17:19,966 --> 00:17:21,233 - I agree with you. 468 00:17:21,233 --> 00:17:22,566 I'm gonna let you assign me a spot. 469 00:17:22,566 --> 00:17:24,533 - How about right here? - Love it. 470 00:17:24,533 --> 00:17:26,066 - [Mike] And I've been eyeballing 471 00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:27,800 this little nook back there. 472 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,633 - Okay. 473 00:17:28,633 --> 00:17:29,566 - And you know, 474 00:17:29,566 --> 00:17:30,900 I think what we should do 475 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:31,933 is just kind of work towards each other. 476 00:17:31,933 --> 00:17:33,166 - [Jaime] Okay. 477 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:34,100 - Let's focus on the little stuff, 478 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:35,100 because I've got my crew coming. 479 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:36,600 We'll take care of the furniture 480 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,100 and everything that's big and heavy. 481 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,566 - Yeah, okay, that sounds like a great plan. 482 00:17:39,566 --> 00:17:41,533 Get on back there. - Okay. 483 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,233 Jamie, you are not gonna believe this. 484 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,066 - What? - I found this notebook. 485 00:17:49,066 --> 00:17:50,300 - Okay. 486 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:51,833 - And just opened up to a random page. 487 00:17:51,833 --> 00:17:56,066 At the very top, it says, this could take about 12 months. 488 00:17:56,066 --> 00:17:58,133 (Jaime laughing) 489 00:17:58,133 --> 00:18:00,700 (mellow music) 490 00:18:06,833 --> 00:18:10,033 - Lots of gauze, lots of medical supplies. 491 00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:12,500 - You know what I see with a lot of families 492 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:15,433 is as soon as the person passes away, 493 00:18:15,433 --> 00:18:17,966 they just walk out of the room. 494 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:18,800 - Just release it. 495 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,466 - And I think they just, 496 00:18:20,466 --> 00:18:23,066 they work so hard to care that when it's, 497 00:18:23,066 --> 00:18:24,600 they don't have to care more, they just need the rest. 498 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,400 I think they just shut the door. 499 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,600 Honestly. 500 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:28,466 - It makes sense. 501 00:18:28,466 --> 00:18:30,000 I tell you, to me, 502 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,566 it takes a lot of courage to even allow us to be here. 503 00:18:32,566 --> 00:18:34,233 - Absolutely. 504 00:18:34,233 --> 00:18:36,200 - You think about. - Totally. 505 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,500 - I mean, I keep just thinking about 506 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:39,966 what this family has gone through 507 00:18:39,966 --> 00:18:42,600 and how courageous like they have been. 508 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,200 - Dude, if I went through half of what they've gone through, 509 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,000 I would shut the door and never speak to someone again. 510 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,766 - Ever. - Anyone? 511 00:18:49,766 --> 00:18:50,866 Yeah, I would just give up. 512 00:18:50,866 --> 00:18:52,533 And they just keep going. 513 00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:55,066 (mellow music) 514 00:18:59,333 --> 00:19:01,233 - So, lots of stuff with the catering business 515 00:19:01,233 --> 00:19:02,700 in here for sure. 516 00:19:04,733 --> 00:19:07,400 Paper straws, you know I love those. 517 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,600 - Oh yeah. 518 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,633 Jaime, Jaime, Jaime. 519 00:19:10,633 --> 00:19:11,966 - What? 520 00:19:11,966 --> 00:19:13,133 - Look what I found. 521 00:19:13,133 --> 00:19:14,266 - Whatcha got? 522 00:19:16,366 --> 00:19:18,300 - These may be the dad's cameras. 523 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:19,466 - Oh. - Yeah. 524 00:19:19,466 --> 00:19:22,433 Look at this bad boy. - Look at that. 525 00:19:22,433 --> 00:19:24,200 - I haven't found many of these, 526 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,166 but you can tell when you find one 527 00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:29,233 that this person was a serious photographer. 528 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:32,133 Kim and Lisa's dad, he was right there. 529 00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:33,433 Martin Luther King. - Yes. 530 00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:34,900 - Rosa Parks. 531 00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:36,633 This very camera with. - With that camera. 532 00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:37,900 - Yeah. 533 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:40,566 - I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it. 534 00:19:40,566 --> 00:19:41,933 - I mean, it's also probably something 535 00:19:41,933 --> 00:19:43,866 that he would've used in his studio as well. 536 00:19:43,866 --> 00:19:44,700 Definitely this. 537 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,100 This thing is heavy. 538 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:46,933 You're not toting this around. 539 00:19:46,933 --> 00:19:48,466 - No. - No. 540 00:19:48,466 --> 00:19:49,566 Yeah, I mean, this one at least has a handle on it. 541 00:19:49,566 --> 00:19:51,000 - Yeah. - This is amazing. 542 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,333 A lot of people think that their things belong in museums. 543 00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:56,533 These items actually do. 544 00:19:56,533 --> 00:20:01,500 (pencil scratching) (bell pinging) 545 00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:09,100 - All right, so back to organizing. 546 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,566 This is my favorite thing right here. 547 00:20:10,566 --> 00:20:14,633 They're storing something that says, don't use. 548 00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:16,033 (both laughing) 549 00:20:16,033 --> 00:20:17,366 Oh, I love it. - Oh, man. 550 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:20,133 Let's see. 551 00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:26,166 Oh, Matt. 552 00:20:26,166 --> 00:20:27,133 - What do you got there? 553 00:20:27,133 --> 00:20:28,766 Pictures? - Pictures. 554 00:20:28,766 --> 00:20:30,233 - Oh man. 555 00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:31,966 - My heart's beating fast right now, man. 556 00:20:31,966 --> 00:20:33,233 I'm telling you. 557 00:20:33,233 --> 00:20:34,366 - Look at this. This is his right? 558 00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:35,166 - My goodness. 559 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,833 Looks like we got negatives. 560 00:20:37,833 --> 00:20:39,566 - Those slides. - Here we go, man. 561 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,566 You know what's cool about this is this particular picture 562 00:20:46,566 --> 00:20:48,600 was a screen saver on my phone for years. 563 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,033 - Get outta here. - Yeah. 564 00:20:50,033 --> 00:20:51,300 - What is it? 565 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:52,333 - From 16th Street Baptist Church. 566 00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:53,500 - It is. - Yeah. 567 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:55,066 - Wow. 568 00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:57,633 - How much had you studied of this story before we got here? 569 00:20:57,633 --> 00:21:00,333 - For Black Americans it's kind of a pivotal point, 570 00:21:00,333 --> 00:21:02,466 you know, in the Civil Rights Movement. 571 00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:03,766 - Yeah. 572 00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:05,100 - So like, there was a story I heard 573 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,433 virtually all my life. 574 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:08,900 Just the tragedy behind it, 575 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:13,866 but how it moved that movement forward. 576 00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:18,200 (upbeat music) 577 00:21:19,933 --> 00:21:23,400 - [Announcer] In 1963, the 16th Street Baptist Church 578 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,133 was one of the largest black churches in Birmingham. 579 00:21:26,133 --> 00:21:29,666 And a meeting place where Civil Rights leaders organized 580 00:21:29,666 --> 00:21:31,666 to end segregation. 581 00:21:31,666 --> 00:21:34,700 Led by Martin Luther King and Fred Shuttlesworth, 582 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:38,133 black citizens left their pews to stage boycotts, 583 00:21:38,133 --> 00:21:40,666 arranged sit-ins and marched peacefully 584 00:21:40,666 --> 00:21:42,100 through the streets. 585 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:45,600 They were beaten and arrested by the thousands. 586 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,300 White clergymen had criticized 587 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:52,000 the protests as unwise and untimely. 588 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,800 Couldn't demonstrators just wait a little longer? 589 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,700 While sitting in jail, Dr. King composed a response. 590 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:03,700 He wrote, "I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign 591 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:06,433 "that was well timed in the view of those 592 00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:10,133 "who have not suffered from the disease of segregation. 593 00:22:10,133 --> 00:22:14,166 "This wait has almost always meant never. 594 00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:18,066 "We must come to see that justice too long delayed 595 00:22:18,066 --> 00:22:20,100 "is justice denied." 596 00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:25,200 School children soon joined King in the streets. 597 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,866 Police Chief, Bull Hunter, 598 00:22:26,866 --> 00:22:31,666 retaliated with high pressure fire hoses and attack dogs. 599 00:22:31,666 --> 00:22:34,666 All eyes were on Birmingham. 600 00:22:34,666 --> 00:22:37,800 Things reached a boiling point on September 15th 601 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,400 when KKK members planted sticks of dynamite 602 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,300 at the 16th Street Baptist Church. 603 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:47,233 The explosion killed four young girls 604 00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:49,366 getting ready for Sunday service. 605 00:22:49,366 --> 00:22:51,933 Addie Mae Collins, Carole Robertson, 606 00:22:51,933 --> 00:22:54,266 Cynthia Wesley, and Denise McNair. 607 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,966 When King heard the news, 608 00:22:56,966 --> 00:23:00,433 he sent a telegram to Alabama Governor George Wallace, 609 00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:02,233 a committed segregationist. 610 00:23:02,233 --> 00:23:06,266 "The blood of our children is on your hands." 611 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:09,533 The bombing compelled lawmakers 612 00:23:09,533 --> 00:23:12,733 to pass the Civil Rights Act the next year. 613 00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:17,066 Still, justice was too long delayed. 614 00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:20,033 It took over a decade for the first Klansmen 615 00:23:20,033 --> 00:23:21,600 to be held responsible. 616 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,533 Two other conspirators weren't convicted 617 00:23:24,533 --> 00:23:27,000 until the early 2000s. 618 00:23:29,833 --> 00:23:31,900 - Personal portraits. 619 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,900 No way. 620 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:36,766 - What do you got? 621 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,500 Dr. King's funeral? 622 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:44,033 1968 in Atlanta. 623 00:23:44,033 --> 00:23:46,266 - Do you see that? - What? 624 00:23:46,266 --> 00:23:49,033 - Oh, my gracious. 625 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:52,900 - Man. - What? 626 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:54,233 - Holy cow. 627 00:24:04,066 --> 00:24:06,900 - Oh my gosh. - Look at this, man. 628 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:08,566 - I'm shaking man. - 1968. 629 00:24:08,566 --> 00:24:09,366 - I'm shaking. 630 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,633 I'm shaking, man. 631 00:24:12,633 --> 00:24:15,700 His lens, his perspective, puts me right there. 632 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:18,033 I just really appreciate, you know, 633 00:24:18,033 --> 00:24:19,533 that he was able to continue on 634 00:24:19,533 --> 00:24:22,533 capturing those moments after losing his daughter 635 00:24:22,533 --> 00:24:24,566 in such a tragic way. 636 00:24:24,566 --> 00:24:26,633 I think every picture from that point on 637 00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:29,466 would've just been a representation of freedom. 638 00:24:29,466 --> 00:24:31,200 Like this is for her. 639 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,133 You know, this is for Denise. 640 00:24:33,133 --> 00:24:34,866 Those are the contact sheets, right? 641 00:24:34,866 --> 00:24:35,666 - Yeah. 642 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,466 Dude, this is Dr. King and-- 643 00:24:38,466 --> 00:24:39,666 - Ralph Abernathy. - Ralph Abernathy. 644 00:24:39,666 --> 00:24:41,700 This is them leaving jail. 645 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:42,966 - Oh. 646 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:47,966 - And then speaking at the 16th Street Baptist Church. 647 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,333 - This is just after Martin Luther King's letter 648 00:24:55,333 --> 00:24:57,600 from a Birmingham jail. - Yeah. 649 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,866 - You know, you hear about this. 650 00:24:58,866 --> 00:24:59,700 - Yeah. 651 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:01,366 - And it's one thing, right? 652 00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:03,000 You try to imagine yourself 653 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 in that moment, like, what was going on. 654 00:25:06,166 --> 00:25:07,633 This just brings me a little closer. 655 00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:11,066 Their father was behind the lens. 656 00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:12,633 - Yeah. 657 00:25:12,633 --> 00:25:16,366 - Of this shot, and we're in their home. 658 00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:17,833 - Yeah. 659 00:25:17,833 --> 00:25:19,833 - I keep thinking, you know, he was on the sidelines, 660 00:25:19,833 --> 00:25:21,033 but not really. 661 00:25:21,033 --> 00:25:22,233 He was in it. 662 00:25:22,233 --> 00:25:23,266 He was taking pictures, but he was playing. 663 00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:24,666 - He was in it. - Yeah. 664 00:25:24,666 --> 00:25:27,266 - And we found a piece of history. 665 00:25:28,433 --> 00:25:30,200 It's not often we find things like this. 666 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,733 I mean, Black American's history is not often recorded. 667 00:25:42,733 --> 00:25:44,333 - So here's a question. 668 00:25:45,533 --> 00:25:47,000 I have this box of personal items, 669 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,466 and inside of it is a box, but the box is taped. 670 00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:52,466 What do you normally do when you come across 671 00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:54,133 something like that? 672 00:25:54,133 --> 00:25:55,066 Do you take it to the client 673 00:25:55,066 --> 00:25:56,300 and ask them if you can open it? 674 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:58,500 - That's a really case by case basis. 675 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:00,066 - Yeah. 676 00:26:00,066 --> 00:26:02,166 - For this house, given how little time we've got, 677 00:26:02,166 --> 00:26:05,066 If we have to wait for them, we'll never get done. 678 00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:05,866 - Okay. 679 00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:09,433 My gosh, this is heavy. - What is it? 680 00:26:10,933 --> 00:26:15,633 - It's like a, oh, it's like three pretty hefty binders. 681 00:26:16,766 --> 00:26:19,233 But this label says all telegrams. 682 00:26:19,233 --> 00:26:20,200 - Okay. 683 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,400 - Okay. - All right. 684 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:24,800 Let's see what we got here. 685 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,500 Oh, look at these. 686 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,466 Our love and sincere blessings are with you 687 00:26:28,466 --> 00:26:30,300 in this hour of bereavement. 688 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,466 Mr. and Mrs. James High. 689 00:26:32,466 --> 00:26:33,966 - And these are from like strangers 690 00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:35,400 sending their condolences. 691 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,966 I mean, that's just-- - Well, the story 692 00:26:36,966 --> 00:26:39,066 was headline news all over the world. 693 00:26:39,066 --> 00:26:40,600 - I know. 694 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,300 Dear Maxine and Chris, 695 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,633 we cannot find words to express how we feel at this time, 696 00:26:44,633 --> 00:26:47,033 but please know that we are very much affected. 697 00:26:47,033 --> 00:26:49,900 We will always remember our little flower girl. 698 00:26:50,766 --> 00:26:52,866 - It just blows my mind. 699 00:26:52,866 --> 00:26:57,633 There's very few moments where history just turns. 700 00:26:57,633 --> 00:26:58,900 This is one of those moments. 701 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:00,200 - Absolutely. 702 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,333 These were artifacts from American history 703 00:27:03,333 --> 00:27:05,733 amongst empty moving boxes. 704 00:27:05,733 --> 00:27:07,133 - When you have all this, 705 00:27:07,133 --> 00:27:08,933 it's really attractive to just say, 706 00:27:08,933 --> 00:27:11,666 well, back up a dumpster or a truck. 707 00:27:11,666 --> 00:27:12,866 - Yep. - And just get it out. 708 00:27:12,866 --> 00:27:14,133 - Yep. - But these are the kinds 709 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:16,700 of things, once they're gone, they're gone. 710 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:17,900 - Yep. 711 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:19,100 Well, we're not gonna let it happen. 712 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:19,900 - Amen. - No. 713 00:27:21,033 --> 00:27:23,933 (pencil scratching) (bell pinging) 714 00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,500 (mellow music) 715 00:27:38,566 --> 00:27:40,800 - You know, one thing about this family, they had a, 716 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,166 although it looks messy, they got a lot of structure. 717 00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:44,400 - Yeah, yeah. - To it. 718 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,300 - Yeah, I mean, things are together, you know. 719 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:51,000 It's just, Matt. - Yeah. 720 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,266 What did you find over there? 721 00:28:00,766 --> 00:28:02,800 Oh, I wonder if that's the prayer book 722 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,666 or that's the family bible? 723 00:28:03,666 --> 00:28:07,833 - No. - Oh my gosh. 724 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:11,300 It's Denise's Bible. 725 00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:14,066 Wow. 726 00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:22,366 - And I imagine this is what kind of makes the work hard 727 00:28:22,366 --> 00:28:26,300 for Lisa and Kim to find things like this. 728 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:27,733 - Yeah, I wouldn't want to go through this room either. 729 00:28:27,733 --> 00:28:28,966 - I'm, I'm, you know, 730 00:28:28,966 --> 00:28:31,800 it's just hard not to picture this little girl 731 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,033 holding this Bible in this church. 732 00:28:34,033 --> 00:28:35,800 And this bomb is going off. 733 00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:42,100 It's really hard to imagine what the McNairs went through 734 00:28:43,066 --> 00:28:43,933 in that moment. 735 00:28:46,133 --> 00:28:49,600 That could have been my little girls. 736 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,166 I'm not sure I would've had the same grace. 737 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:56,766 Oh, bro. 738 00:28:56,766 --> 00:29:00,233 This particular job is probably had me the most excited 739 00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:04,500 and in feeling the most pain all in one. 740 00:29:05,633 --> 00:29:08,100 You know, I think people forget sometimes 741 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,266 that it's humans attached to these stories. 742 00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:12,266 - Yeah. - Like, it's people 743 00:29:12,266 --> 00:29:16,666 who have experienced these moments and gone through. 744 00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:19,866 And I think when you hear it in the classroom sometimes 745 00:29:19,866 --> 00:29:22,433 it's just you understand what happened. 746 00:29:22,433 --> 00:29:24,633 You understand that there was a loss of life. 747 00:29:24,633 --> 00:29:26,700 Then you move on to the next chapter. 748 00:29:28,566 --> 00:29:31,700 - The fact that she wrote it in her handwriting on the side. 749 00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:33,666 And when you're a little kid, 750 00:29:33,666 --> 00:29:34,966 you put your name on it because you don't have anything. 751 00:29:34,966 --> 00:29:36,333 - Exactly. 752 00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:37,500 - You're happy to have it. - You're happy. 753 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:38,866 Yeah. - She was happy to have that. 754 00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:41,400 - I might need a little break. 755 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,200 - Take it. 756 00:29:45,866 --> 00:29:47,000 Why don't you take a minute. 757 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,366 Go break, go do whatever you need to do. 758 00:29:48,366 --> 00:29:49,733 - Yeah. I think I need a minute. 759 00:29:51,033 --> 00:29:53,833 - Do your thing. - I need a minute. 760 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,733 We know that Black families were terrorized 761 00:30:02,733 --> 00:30:03,833 in there own homes. 762 00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:08,933 In the face of death, tragedy, they persevered. 763 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,066 I'm here because of them. 764 00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:15,433 Those are the heroes. 765 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,500 Those are heroes. 766 00:30:20,266 --> 00:30:22,833 (mellow music) 767 00:30:38,233 --> 00:30:40,400 - Yeah, this is the Congressional gold medal 768 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,733 that was given to the family 769 00:30:41,733 --> 00:30:44,666 by the Obama administration and Congress. 770 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,200 Nothing gets voted unanimously by Congress these days. 771 00:30:52,466 --> 00:30:53,633 There they are. 772 00:30:55,233 --> 00:30:56,300 Lisa and their mom. 773 00:30:57,966 --> 00:31:00,400 Look, there she is with President Obama. 774 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:04,800 Every family has history. 775 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,733 This family is history. 776 00:31:08,666 --> 00:31:12,933 (pencil scratching) (bell pinging) 777 00:31:12,933 --> 00:31:15,466 (mellow music) 778 00:31:19,466 --> 00:31:21,066 - [Announcer] The Congressional gold medal 779 00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:24,533 is the highest civilian honor that Congress can bestow. 780 00:31:24,533 --> 00:31:27,566 First given out in 1776, 781 00:31:27,566 --> 00:31:29,233 early medals honored those 782 00:31:29,233 --> 00:31:32,066 who distinguished themselves in battle. 783 00:31:32,066 --> 00:31:35,066 Later, Congress expanded the range of honorees 784 00:31:35,066 --> 00:31:39,100 to recognized excellence in all kinds of worthy fields. 785 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,400 Thomas Edison received the medal 786 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,600 for being a prolific inventor. 787 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,533 He's best known for developing the phonograph. 788 00:31:46,533 --> 00:31:48,333 His less celebrated designs 789 00:31:48,333 --> 00:31:50,933 include the world's biggest rock crusher, 790 00:31:50,933 --> 00:31:53,266 and a doll that sang nursery rhymes. 791 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,766 Rosa Parks was given a medal for standing up for herself 792 00:31:58,766 --> 00:32:00,566 by remaining seated. 793 00:32:00,566 --> 00:32:03,233 She said the medal was encouragement 794 00:32:03,233 --> 00:32:07,400 for all of us to continue until all have rights. 795 00:32:08,733 --> 00:32:11,033 Other recipients may be lesser known, 796 00:32:11,033 --> 00:32:14,033 but their accomplishments are still significant. 797 00:32:14,033 --> 00:32:17,900 The Navajo Code Talkers received Congressional gold medals 798 00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:22,033 for communicating secret intelligence during World War II. 799 00:32:22,033 --> 00:32:24,300 For her contributions to medical research, 800 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:27,000 Mary Lasker received the Congressional gold medal. 801 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,333 In the 1940s, cancer was taboo, 802 00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:32,900 barely talked about outside the family. 803 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,700 Lasker not only helped lift the stigma, 804 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:39,033 she successfully lobbied the government to fund research. 805 00:32:39,033 --> 00:32:40,800 (bell pinging) 806 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,833 One of the youngest awardees was Roland Boucher 807 00:32:43,833 --> 00:32:46,200 who received the prize for rescuing friends 808 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,033 who had fallen through the ice of Lake Champlain. 809 00:32:50,033 --> 00:32:52,933 When asked how it felt to be a hero, 810 00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:56,700 Roland humbly replied, "I would rather be at home." 811 00:32:58,133 --> 00:33:00,733 Congressional gold medals have been given out 812 00:33:00,733 --> 00:33:02,566 to distinguished honorees 813 00:33:02,566 --> 00:33:06,833 ranging from war heroes to world leaders, 814 00:33:06,833 --> 00:33:10,566 to four little girls who became a flashpoint 815 00:33:10,566 --> 00:33:13,000 in the fight for equal rights. 816 00:33:25,633 --> 00:33:27,100 - Now that we've had a chance 817 00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:28,633 to go through some of the things in the garage, 818 00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:30,200 I wanted to pull Lisa aside 819 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,966 and start going through the closets. 820 00:33:31,966 --> 00:33:33,433 When's the last time you've really 821 00:33:33,433 --> 00:33:34,966 looked in these closets? 822 00:33:34,966 --> 00:33:38,233 - I was in there the week Mama died 823 00:33:38,233 --> 00:33:41,033 looking for something that I hadn't been able to find 824 00:33:41,033 --> 00:33:43,133 and I didn't go very far. 825 00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:44,400 - Yeah. 826 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,800 - But that was the last time I was in this one. 827 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,033 - Okay. 828 00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:48,533 And I just kind of wanna talk about, you know, 829 00:33:48,533 --> 00:33:50,566 where you are in the process of letting go of those things 830 00:33:50,566 --> 00:33:51,766 that belong to mom. 831 00:33:51,766 --> 00:33:53,366 And I noticed some of dad's stuff 832 00:33:53,366 --> 00:33:54,900 still in the closet as well in the bedroom. 833 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,400 - Right, right, right. 834 00:33:57,566 --> 00:33:58,700 - So kind of talk me through 835 00:33:58,700 --> 00:33:59,966 where you're getting stuck. 836 00:33:59,966 --> 00:34:00,733 - Okay. 837 00:34:01,633 --> 00:34:03,600 What we need to do is pick some 838 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,333 that we're going to keep. 839 00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:06,000 - Okay. 840 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,200 - Not that we're going to wear them. 841 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,100 - Right. 842 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,966 - But I had an idea that I wanted 843 00:34:09,966 --> 00:34:13,233 to have quilts made of some of their clothes. 844 00:34:13,233 --> 00:34:16,366 One of each parent for me and my sister. 845 00:34:16,366 --> 00:34:18,633 - I love that idea. - Thank you. 846 00:34:18,633 --> 00:34:20,533 So we need to go through here 847 00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:24,500 and decide what clothes would make the best quilt. 848 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:26,700 And then the rest of 'em we would give away. 849 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:27,966 - Yeah. 850 00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,333 It's really important to go through closets 851 00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:30,800 from top to bottom, 852 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,333 because you really never know what you're gonna find. 853 00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:35,566 Like this debutante ball gown. 854 00:34:35,566 --> 00:34:39,066 - It's a debutante dress that I wore at the debutante ball 855 00:34:39,066 --> 00:34:42,433 and my mom was part of the first class 856 00:34:42,433 --> 00:34:46,966 of African Americans here in Birmingham to be debutantes. 857 00:34:46,966 --> 00:34:49,366 She and the Imperial Club started it. 858 00:34:49,366 --> 00:34:50,533 - Wow. 859 00:34:50,533 --> 00:34:52,300 - And so when it came my turn, I said, 860 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,066 "Well, I wanna honor mom and be a legacy." 861 00:34:55,066 --> 00:34:56,433 - Yeah. - And be a debutante. 862 00:34:56,433 --> 00:34:57,766 So this was my dress. 863 00:34:57,766 --> 00:35:00,766 - And what year was that approximately? 864 00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:02,166 How long have you been saving this? 865 00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:04,833 - '83, '82, '83. - Okay. 866 00:35:04,833 --> 00:35:06,500 - Yeah, yeah. 867 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:09,066 Mama went to the store, this gown store, 868 00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:11,266 and took me and one of her best friends 869 00:35:11,266 --> 00:35:14,933 who sewed and she had a little notebook and a pencil. 870 00:35:14,933 --> 00:35:18,400 And once we found the dress that she wanted me to have, 871 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,900 she drew the dress in a notebook 872 00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:24,466 and then took it home and made this dress for me. 873 00:35:24,466 --> 00:35:25,933 - Wow. - Yeah. 874 00:35:25,933 --> 00:35:27,600 - So this is like a one of a kind. 875 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,066 - Yeah, yeah. 876 00:35:29,066 --> 00:35:30,333 - Becoming a debutante. 877 00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:35,233 It's traditionally been a white societal thing. 878 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,133 Talk me through like what the significance of that was 879 00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:39,900 for your mom and then for you. 880 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,866 - Well, I think it's often downplayed 881 00:35:41,866 --> 00:35:43,700 that Black people didn't have class. 882 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:48,233 We weren't sophisticated, we weren't smart, but we are. 883 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:49,200 And we were. 884 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,700 And we cared about things. 885 00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:55,666 And we wanted to have class, and culture and education 886 00:35:55,666 --> 00:35:57,166 just like anybody else. 887 00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:59,566 So I was very proud to be able to represent the family 888 00:35:59,566 --> 00:36:00,733 and do that. 889 00:36:04,633 --> 00:36:06,133 - [Announcer] Young women of means 890 00:36:06,133 --> 00:36:10,033 have been attending debutante balls for hundreds of years. 891 00:36:10,033 --> 00:36:13,733 It was a way for them to be introduced to society. 892 00:36:13,733 --> 00:36:15,600 It was also a way for a family 893 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600 to announce their daughter's willingness 894 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,900 to marry into an exclusive aristocratic circle. 895 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,433 With origins in England, 896 00:36:23,433 --> 00:36:26,100 Debutante balls first appeared in the US 897 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,000 in the early 19th century 898 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,066 and became especially popular in southern society. 899 00:36:32,066 --> 00:36:34,366 The Christmas cotillion in Savannah, Georgia 900 00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:36,766 is known to be one of the oldest in America, 901 00:36:36,766 --> 00:36:39,400 beginning in 1817. 902 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600 These formal affairs were intended 903 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,300 to show off a young woman's etiquette and grace. 904 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:48,500 The dress code, a floor length ballgown 905 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,466 and long white gloves, of course. 906 00:36:51,866 --> 00:36:54,600 Most debutantes performed the classic curtsy. 907 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,733 But some Texas ladies take it to the extreme 908 00:36:57,733 --> 00:36:59,533 with the Texas dip. 909 00:36:59,533 --> 00:37:01,233 In this elaborate curtsy, 910 00:37:01,233 --> 00:37:05,133 the Deb lowers herself practically all the way to the ground 911 00:37:05,133 --> 00:37:07,866 and bows with her arms outstretched. 912 00:37:07,866 --> 00:37:10,266 That's no easy task in heels. 913 00:37:11,833 --> 00:37:14,366 The first official Black debutante ball 914 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:17,700 took place in New Orleans in 1895. 915 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,566 These coming out events served a different purpose 916 00:37:20,566 --> 00:37:22,666 than that of their white counterparts. 917 00:37:22,666 --> 00:37:25,133 Black communities reclaimed the ritual 918 00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:27,033 to focus less on marriage 919 00:37:27,033 --> 00:37:30,633 and more on demonstrating achievements. 920 00:37:30,633 --> 00:37:34,600 Debutantes gained mentors and performed community service. 921 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,566 These ceremonies were seen as a celebration 922 00:37:37,566 --> 00:37:39,300 of young Black women. 923 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,900 By the 1930s, debutante balls were a mainstay 924 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,233 in Black social circles due in large part to the efforts 925 00:37:46,233 --> 00:37:48,400 of Black sororities, fraternities, 926 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,966 and community organizations that would host them. 927 00:37:52,033 --> 00:37:54,033 In today's modern society, 928 00:37:54,033 --> 00:37:56,666 debutante balls are no longer appealing 929 00:37:56,666 --> 00:38:00,833 to many young women who see the custom as outdated. 930 00:38:00,833 --> 00:38:03,600 But there are many others who embrace the idea 931 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,366 of one day being the belle of the ball. 932 00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,833 (upbeat music) 933 00:38:18,733 --> 00:38:21,333 - Now that the work in the house is almost complete, 934 00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:22,566 Jaime, Avi and I are gonna go 935 00:38:22,566 --> 00:38:24,666 to the 16th Street Baptist Church. 936 00:38:24,666 --> 00:38:27,633 - This is such a huge part of the family's history 937 00:38:27,633 --> 00:38:30,466 and we really needed to be in the space 938 00:38:30,466 --> 00:38:31,566 where it all started. 939 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,933 - I think it's a way to really connect ourselves 940 00:38:36,933 --> 00:38:38,933 more to the family and also the community. 941 00:38:38,933 --> 00:38:40,166 - How are ya? - Wonderful, yourself? 942 00:38:40,166 --> 00:38:41,133 Thank for meeting us, doing great. 943 00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:42,400 - Reverend Price, 944 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,433 thank you for having us here and letting us in. 945 00:38:44,433 --> 00:38:45,266 - You're quite welcome. 946 00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:46,400 - To the church. 947 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,500 We've been at the McNair House 948 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:49,966 and we're finding so much history 949 00:38:49,966 --> 00:38:52,200 and of course it all leads back to here. 950 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,566 - Well, Maxine McNair was a member 951 00:38:53,566 --> 00:38:55,066 at the 16th Street Baptist Church 952 00:38:55,066 --> 00:38:56,933 and she was a faithful member. 953 00:38:56,933 --> 00:38:59,366 So that's not surprising that you would find 954 00:38:59,366 --> 00:39:01,933 things that relate to the church in their household. 955 00:39:04,033 --> 00:39:06,000 - I know you've been here for 20 years 956 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,866 and when you arrived, what did you find when you got here? 957 00:39:10,366 --> 00:39:13,033 I found the church wanted to be more than being a museum. 958 00:39:13,033 --> 00:39:13,966 - Right. 959 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:15,933 - But also wanted to be known as being the active ministry. 960 00:39:15,933 --> 00:39:19,700 So, the challenge was to make the story 961 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:22,666 a part of history. 962 00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:27,200 People got angry, but they turned their anger into activism. 963 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,433 - Yeah. - Yeah. 964 00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:29,466 - They turned their anger into action. 965 00:39:29,466 --> 00:39:30,400 - Right. - Yes. they were angry 966 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,900 that the church was bombed. 967 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:33,533 Yes, they were angry that four girls lost their lives, 968 00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:38,133 but they began to advocate for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. 969 00:39:38,133 --> 00:39:41,333 They began to advocate for the 1965 Voting Rights Act 970 00:39:41,333 --> 00:39:43,566 and the bitter days of Birmingham became better days. 971 00:39:43,566 --> 00:39:46,266 And the lesson that was taught that day, 972 00:39:46,266 --> 00:39:49,100 a love that forgives, is a lesson that this church 973 00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,666 has been living out. 974 00:39:50,666 --> 00:39:52,966 - I love these moments of outreach, you know, 975 00:39:52,966 --> 00:39:55,900 where the church could have easily insulated itself, 976 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:58,300 but instead you turn outward 977 00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:02,166 and you show God's love through your openness, 978 00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:04,900 through your ability and willingness 979 00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:07,666 to continue to connect with the community. 980 00:40:07,666 --> 00:40:10,133 - This congregation for decades 981 00:40:10,133 --> 00:40:13,033 has really turned tragedy into triumph. 982 00:40:13,033 --> 00:40:16,800 For me, being in Birmingham for the first time, 983 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,333 I'm really realizing how much happened here. 984 00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:21,300 And I'm just curious, 985 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:26,133 what's the story that you want people to walk away knowing? 986 00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:28,100 - That Birmingham is a part of the American story. 987 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:29,066 - Yeah. 988 00:40:29,066 --> 00:40:30,566 - That the story of Birmingham 989 00:40:30,566 --> 00:40:32,433 is just as important as the story in Philadelphia 990 00:40:32,433 --> 00:40:33,666 with the Liberty Bell. 991 00:40:33,666 --> 00:40:35,200 Just as important as what happened 992 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,433 at the Boston Harbor with the Tea Party, 993 00:40:37,433 --> 00:40:40,433 at Gettysburg, at Valley Forge. 994 00:40:40,433 --> 00:40:44,433 That Americans have always fought for freedom of justice. 995 00:40:44,433 --> 00:40:46,033 And foot soldiers was on the front line 996 00:40:46,033 --> 00:40:48,833 to make sure that African Americans who were different 997 00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:50,466 would not be viewed deficient. 998 00:40:50,466 --> 00:40:53,033 And they wanted to make sure that they were 999 00:40:53,033 --> 00:40:54,300 a part of that American Dream. 1000 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:57,033 And that happened here in Birmingham, Alabama. 1001 00:40:57,033 --> 00:40:58,533 - Well, Reverend Price, 1002 00:40:58,533 --> 00:41:00,066 I'm just thankful that you've given us this opportunity, 1003 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:01,633 you know, just to sharing your space, 1004 00:41:01,633 --> 00:41:04,266 the space that God has given Alabama. 1005 00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:05,400 - You're quite welcome. 1006 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,900 Thank you for coming. 1007 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,700 And thank you for getting our story out to the masses. 1008 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,366 ♪ The sweet, sweet touch of Heaven ♪ 1009 00:41:15,366 --> 00:41:17,566 - The 16th Street Baptist Church once representing tragedy, 1010 00:41:17,566 --> 00:41:21,200 but now more than ever, it represents unity. 1011 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:25,800 - Yeah, there. 1012 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,433 ♪ The sweet, sweet touch of love ♪ 1013 00:41:30,433 --> 00:41:33,300 - History is evolving and yes, it repeats itself. 1014 00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:34,800 And that's the scary part. 1015 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,800 - I mean, I don't remember like the specific lesson on. 1016 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,566 - If there was one. - If there was one. 1017 00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:42,000 Exactly. - Yeah. 1018 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,500 - Oh, it was a line item in a book. 1019 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:44,900 - Yeah. 1020 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:46,966 - If you don't educate yourself, this will happen again. 1021 00:41:46,966 --> 00:41:48,766 But if you go and you learn and you experience 1022 00:41:48,766 --> 00:41:50,566 and you meet the people and you learn the tragedy 1023 00:41:50,566 --> 00:41:53,833 and you learn the love, that's when change happens. 1024 00:41:53,833 --> 00:41:56,366 (mellow music) 1025 00:42:09,066 --> 00:42:11,433 - While Matt and the rest of the team are at the church, 1026 00:42:11,433 --> 00:42:13,100 it's time for me and my crew 1027 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:14,866 to get Lisa and Kim in the garage 1028 00:42:14,866 --> 00:42:16,800 to make some really hard decisions. 1029 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,766 What is your ultimate goal with this space? 1030 00:42:19,766 --> 00:42:22,533 - Lisa wanted a car to fit in here. 1031 00:42:22,533 --> 00:42:23,800 - Okay. 1032 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,833 - But I don't have that expectation. 1033 00:42:25,833 --> 00:42:28,900 I would just like to see there to be some order 1034 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:32,000 and catering things be better organized. 1035 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000 - Kim and Lisa's expectations for the garage 1036 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,233 are pretty reasonable. 1037 00:42:35,233 --> 00:42:36,900 But that doesn't mean it's gonna be easy. 1038 00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:38,900 Let's talk about the record player. 1039 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:40,100 - Okay. 1040 00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,133 - Bad news is, this doesn't work. 1041 00:42:42,133 --> 00:42:43,200 - Okay, go, not keep. 1042 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,700 - All right. 1043 00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:46,733 - But I want the records that are inside. 1044 00:42:46,733 --> 00:42:47,633 - Records, of course. 1045 00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:48,566 We're gonna save those. 1046 00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:50,633 Okay, I see catering cart. 1047 00:42:50,633 --> 00:42:52,300 - Keep. - Okay. 1048 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:54,066 I geek out on posters y'all. 1049 00:42:54,066 --> 00:42:55,033 (Lisa and Kim laughing) 1050 00:42:55,033 --> 00:42:56,000 I'm just being honest with you. 1051 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,333 - So do you still want them or? 1052 00:42:58,333 --> 00:43:00,066 - I don't think so. 1053 00:43:00,066 --> 00:43:01,100 You know, some of-- - Poster geek, 1054 00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,633 you might get a prize today, 1055 00:43:02,633 --> 00:43:03,433 because I don't. 1056 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,466 - Right. - Those are. 1057 00:43:12,466 --> 00:43:14,066 - We can chuck it. - Okay, very good. 1058 00:43:14,066 --> 00:43:16,066 - This can go. 1059 00:43:16,066 --> 00:43:17,133 It was a couple of nice sets, 1060 00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:19,300 but that can go. 1061 00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:21,800 But now I need to see what the of this is. 1062 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,366 (mellow music) 1063 00:43:33,233 --> 00:43:34,466 - Are you okay? 1064 00:43:36,466 --> 00:43:40,300 - A lot of time clutter accumulates because of grief. 1065 00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:43,133 Well, this family has experienced a lot of grief. 1066 00:43:46,233 --> 00:43:48,800 (upbeat music) 1067 00:43:57,833 --> 00:44:00,866 - I really hope this gives Kim and Lisa a jumpstart 1068 00:44:00,866 --> 00:44:02,200 and I was honored to be a part 1069 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,866 of moving this family forward. 1070 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600 - You know, it's really amazing what Mike, his team 1071 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,233 and Kim and Lisa did together 1072 00:44:15,233 --> 00:44:17,033 to get this garage cleaned out. 1073 00:44:17,033 --> 00:44:19,700 Although we didn't finish their parents' bedroom, 1074 00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:21,766 we did give them kind of the start and the jump 1075 00:44:21,766 --> 00:44:23,666 that they needed to finish the rest of the house 1076 00:44:23,666 --> 00:44:25,033 on their own. 1077 00:44:25,033 --> 00:44:27,366 (mellow music) 1078 00:44:27,366 --> 00:44:28,566 Y'all were more involved 1079 00:44:29,766 --> 00:44:31,333 than we normally have families being. 1080 00:44:31,333 --> 00:44:33,366 How did it feel to go through the garage? 1081 00:44:35,033 --> 00:44:36,600 - It was a lot. 1082 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,066 - Yeah, it's overwhelming, 1083 00:44:38,066 --> 00:44:41,033 but it's like you're pushing through, you're doing the work. 1084 00:44:41,033 --> 00:44:42,500 - It's hard. - Yeah, yeah. 1085 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:44,700 - It's full for a reason. 1086 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,000 - But I think it's a jump start for the two of us. 1087 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,233 - We actually were purging, 1088 00:44:50,233 --> 00:44:54,733 making decisions without them being emotional 1089 00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:56,700 and as much as we could. 1090 00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,800 So it was nice to fill up a garbage can 1091 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,766 and put it on the road. 1092 00:45:00,766 --> 00:45:03,966 - I mean, y'all actually got rid of about 2000 pounds. 1093 00:45:03,966 --> 00:45:04,966 - Wow. - Of stuff. 1094 00:45:04,966 --> 00:45:05,766 - That's awesome. 1095 00:45:07,566 --> 00:45:08,933 - Tell me about your mom. 1096 00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:11,133 It would take a heck of a woman 1097 00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:14,933 to actually even be noticed next to your dad. 1098 00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:16,933 - Yeah, this is true. - He was a presence. 1099 00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:18,333 - [Kim] Yes he was. 1100 00:45:18,333 --> 00:45:20,333 - And your mom absolutely stood on her own. 1101 00:45:20,333 --> 00:45:24,033 - You imagine your only child's been murdered. 1102 00:45:24,033 --> 00:45:25,766 I mean, she could very have easily 1103 00:45:25,766 --> 00:45:29,000 have gone to her bed and stayed there, but she didn't. 1104 00:45:30,466 --> 00:45:32,800 And that really took a lot of guts and a lot of courage 1105 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,700 and a lot of strength and faith from within. 1106 00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,200 - Yeah. 1107 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,800 - She treated everybody like they were important. 1108 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,400 That everybody was just the same. 1109 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,866 She gave them love and respect and you know, that's just, 1110 00:45:43,866 --> 00:45:46,800 I think that's why so many people were in love with her. 1111 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,733 - I know. 1112 00:45:47,733 --> 00:45:49,400 - I am gonna wear gloves, 1113 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,533 because some of the pictures we're gonna touch, 1114 00:45:51,533 --> 00:45:53,766 some of the papers we're gonna touch, very important. 1115 00:45:54,966 --> 00:45:56,500 Unfortunately, I was unable to find 1116 00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,166 the official recording of your mom singing. 1117 00:45:59,166 --> 00:46:00,366 - Oh. 1118 00:46:00,366 --> 00:46:02,500 - I did find. - Her concert program. 1119 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:04,900 - The concert. - Oh good. 1120 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,066 - [Matt] Even the Reverend said 1121 00:46:06,066 --> 00:46:07,233 that she was a really good singer. 1122 00:46:07,233 --> 00:46:08,733 - She was excellent. 1123 00:46:08,733 --> 00:46:13,500 She could have been in New New York and the opera, 1124 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,766 but her dad didn't want her to go that far. 1125 00:46:16,766 --> 00:46:19,466 - And I noticed, guess who was the main sponsor on that. 1126 00:46:19,466 --> 00:46:21,600 (Lisa and Kim laughing) 1127 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,900 - I love it. 1128 00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:24,366 - That I thought that was the coolest part. 1129 00:46:24,366 --> 00:46:25,933 - That is very cool. 1130 00:46:25,933 --> 00:46:27,466 - [Matt] Your dad was the main sponsor. 1131 00:46:27,466 --> 00:46:28,733 Smart man. 1132 00:46:28,733 --> 00:46:30,933 - That's wonderful. 1133 00:46:30,933 --> 00:46:34,200 - But man, a lot of other local sponsors too. 1134 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,400 - Yeah. - That's awesome. 1135 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,700 - This community came together. 1136 00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:38,933 - Yeah. 1137 00:46:38,933 --> 00:46:40,100 - Everybody put a dollar or two in 1138 00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:41,166 to make sure things would happen. 1139 00:46:41,166 --> 00:46:42,733 - That's awesome. 1140 00:46:46,033 --> 00:46:47,400 - Your dad was a character, obviously. 1141 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,333 - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. 1142 00:46:48,333 --> 00:46:49,300 - Tell me about your dad. 1143 00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,000 - He was really smart. 1144 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,066 His mind was always turning turn and turn and turning. 1145 00:46:54,066 --> 00:46:57,666 He loved being out in the public and meeting people. 1146 00:46:57,666 --> 00:46:59,266 He loved people, he really did. 1147 00:46:59,266 --> 00:47:01,233 He genuinely loved everyone he met 1148 00:47:01,233 --> 00:47:05,266 and connected with people in such a wonderful way. 1149 00:47:05,266 --> 00:47:08,400 He was a larger than life person. 1150 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,400 - We found a lot of his cameras. 1151 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,566 - That's awesome. - That's beautiful. 1152 00:47:12,566 --> 00:47:13,466 - That's great. 1153 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,433 - This is a nice camera. 1154 00:47:16,433 --> 00:47:18,333 He worked with some of the major magazines. 1155 00:47:18,333 --> 00:47:20,900 - Any daddy always had a lot going on. 1156 00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:24,100 So to get him to stop and put a collection together, 1157 00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:26,400 we basically had to sit on him 1158 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,000 and make him select photographs 1159 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,733 that he would wanna show. 1160 00:47:30,733 --> 00:47:32,000 - Now we're onto color pictures 1161 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,566 of Martin Luther King's funeral. 1162 00:47:33,566 --> 00:47:35,233 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1163 00:47:35,233 --> 00:47:37,400 - Maybe y'all are used to how close you are 1164 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,333 to so much history. 1165 00:47:39,333 --> 00:47:40,866 - Yeah, we are. 1166 00:47:40,866 --> 00:47:42,100 - Yeah. - We are. 1167 00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:43,766 - But there were so many other people, 1168 00:47:43,766 --> 00:47:45,200 - Hundreds. 1169 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,966 - who had a hand in making the change. 1170 00:47:53,033 --> 00:47:55,800 - Now we're gonna talk about the actual bombings. 1171 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,466 These are some clippings we found. 1172 00:47:58,466 --> 00:48:00,633 It just really surprised me. 1173 00:48:00,633 --> 00:48:03,733 I mean, you pretty much, if it was in the paper, 1174 00:48:03,733 --> 00:48:05,400 your mom has it. 1175 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,066 - Yeah. - She saved them all. 1176 00:48:08,233 --> 00:48:11,433 And then we got to read this from your mom. 1177 00:48:13,166 --> 00:48:15,666 This is all the telegrams. 1178 00:48:16,866 --> 00:48:20,300 And what amazed me is there were hundreds 1179 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:22,933 and hundreds and hundreds of sympathies 1180 00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:24,733 from around the world. 1181 00:48:24,733 --> 00:48:26,200 And then we found some, 1182 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,433 some pretty hateful telegrams as well. 1183 00:48:28,433 --> 00:48:30,800 People went out of their way to say negative things. 1184 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,933 - Oh wow. - And this is what I loved. 1185 00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:37,800 Your mom had a note on it and it said to forgive. 1186 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,733 - Oh, that's awesome. 1187 00:48:38,733 --> 00:48:39,900 She was awesome like that. 1188 00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:41,233 - That was her. 1189 00:48:41,233 --> 00:48:43,600 She and a family friend were putting 1190 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,900 a bunch of these books together 1191 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:50,700 and I was just like, just the enormity of it all. 1192 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:51,933 You know, it's just not something 1193 00:48:51,933 --> 00:48:53,966 you want to just put in the trash. 1194 00:48:53,966 --> 00:48:56,366 When you see stuff like this, it's history. 1195 00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:02,200 - Talked about your mom, we've talked about your dad, 1196 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,433 we've talked about the bombing. 1197 00:49:04,433 --> 00:49:06,466 Wanna talk about your sister? 1198 00:49:06,466 --> 00:49:07,600 - Okay. - Denise. 1199 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,100 You never met her, 1200 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,366 but of course you know her. 1201 00:49:10,366 --> 00:49:12,733 This picture was pretty iconic. 1202 00:49:12,733 --> 00:49:14,433 It was in the "Look Magazine". 1203 00:49:14,433 --> 00:49:16,300 We did find the doll. 1204 00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:18,866 - Oh, that is the doll. 1205 00:49:18,866 --> 00:49:20,633 - It was in the garage. 1206 00:49:20,633 --> 00:49:23,300 Such an iconic thing for a little girl. 1207 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:24,500 - Mm-hmm. 1208 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:26,466 - This is a museum quality thing. 1209 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:30,266 I'll hand it to you. 1210 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:35,833 - My hope is that people learn about the story 1211 00:49:35,833 --> 00:49:39,100 of Denise and hear about it 1212 00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,066 and feel the hurt that we experienced 1213 00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:46,466 and realize how bad it was. 1214 00:49:46,466 --> 00:49:49,066 You know, racism is where its ugly head again 1215 00:49:49,066 --> 00:49:51,400 in the last few years. 1216 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,966 And we have to look to these events 1217 00:49:53,966 --> 00:49:58,200 to remember, oh yeah, okay, let me pull it back my anger. 1218 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,700 Let me try to talk to my neighbor 1219 00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:04,566 or my friend about something and not go there. 1220 00:50:04,566 --> 00:50:07,900 Because that can lead to such terrible things. 1221 00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:11,000 - I looked and looked for your mom's prayer book 1222 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,333 and I could not find it. 1223 00:50:12,333 --> 00:50:13,700 - Oh. 1224 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,133 - We found this buried in your mom's stuff. 1225 00:50:16,133 --> 00:50:17,900 Believe this is your sister's. 1226 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:19,733 - Oh, her Bible. 1227 00:50:19,733 --> 00:50:22,400 - But it's got her name written. 1228 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,666 - Hmm. - That's cool. 1229 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,700 - Did y'all know this was here? 1230 00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:27,900 - No. - No. 1231 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:29,733 - This is a letter. 1232 00:50:29,733 --> 00:50:30,900 I think that's your mom's handwriting. 1233 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,433 - Mm. - Oh wow. 1234 00:50:34,433 --> 00:50:37,133 It says, "My gloves and handkerchief 1235 00:50:37,133 --> 00:50:41,200 "someone gave me September 15th, 1963." 1236 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,433 That's the day of the bomb. - That's the day. 1237 00:50:44,333 --> 00:50:45,633 I'll take a look at it. 1238 00:50:50,466 --> 00:50:52,266 This. - Wow. 1239 00:50:52,266 --> 00:50:55,800 - In a strange way reminds me of Jackie Kennedy 1240 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,800 standing up there with blood on her clothes. 1241 00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,566 - Totally. 1242 00:51:00,866 --> 00:51:03,666 - You know, and look how dirty they are. 1243 00:51:03,666 --> 00:51:08,633 She was probably like walking around trying to find her. 1244 00:51:11,766 --> 00:51:12,566 Wow. 1245 00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:16,733 You know, we have the piece of concrete. 1246 00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:19,166 That was, it hit her in the head. 1247 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,800 And we have it on loan to the Civil Rights Institute. 1248 00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:29,900 And you know, when I hear people say that, 1249 00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:33,100 "Oh, this isn't real. It isn't history. It didn't happen." 1250 00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,066 You know, like, no, it really did. 1251 00:51:36,166 --> 00:51:37,166 It really did happen. 1252 00:51:44,066 --> 00:51:47,200 - Then we found this, the Congressional Gold medal. 1253 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,200 - Okay. 1254 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,766 - This is a big deal. 1255 00:51:49,766 --> 00:51:51,166 - Yeah, it is. 1256 00:51:51,166 --> 00:51:52,700 - Trophies aren't what matter. 1257 00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:57,000 It's what you did to get the trophy that matters. 1258 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,066 You come from such a big family. 1259 00:51:59,066 --> 00:52:01,500 Like even last name means so much. 1260 00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:02,800 I think good comes at everything, 1261 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,500 but sometimes it takes longer to find it. 1262 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:05,733 - Mm-hmm. 1263 00:52:05,733 --> 00:52:08,166 - What good did come outta all of this? 1264 00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:11,333 - I think the ability to, 1265 00:52:11,333 --> 00:52:15,433 for people to see hate right there on its face 1266 00:52:15,433 --> 00:52:17,633 and realize, whoa, 1267 00:52:18,966 --> 00:52:21,166 I might have participated in some of that. 1268 00:52:21,166 --> 00:52:25,300 Let me change the way that I think. 1269 00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:29,633 So I think the changing of of the lives of others 1270 00:52:29,633 --> 00:52:32,833 is part of the good that has come from this. 1271 00:52:35,933 --> 00:52:40,900 ♪ One thing that I learned 1272 00:52:43,166 --> 00:52:48,133 ♪ This life was made for love 1273 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,366 ♪ No good on my own 1274 00:52:55,333 --> 00:52:58,200 ♪ And we need each other 1275 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,266 - I think some other good things happened, too. 1276 00:53:00,266 --> 00:53:02,933 (Kim and Lisa laughing) 1277 00:53:02,933 --> 00:53:04,500 - Who are these pretty ladies? 1278 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:05,633 - That's us. 1279 00:53:05,633 --> 00:53:07,200 - At a piano recital. 1280 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,433 - That painting sitting right behind you. 1281 00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:15,700 It's a road, "Corner of Tragedy and Triumph". 1282 00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,100 I'll remember this one. 1283 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:18,600 I help a lot of people, 1284 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,100 but I'll remember this one for the rest of my life. 1285 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,566 The downsizing part of this, 1286 00:53:21,566 --> 00:53:24,166 Let's keep working at it slowly, 1287 00:53:24,166 --> 00:53:27,133 because I don't want this house to hold you back 1288 00:53:27,133 --> 00:53:30,233 from the difference y'all could make in the world. 1289 00:53:30,233 --> 00:53:31,600 - Right. - It'd be silly. 1290 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,766 - And it won't. 1291 00:53:32,766 --> 00:53:33,900 Well, we thank you all. 1292 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:35,933 This has been just a pleasure. 1293 00:53:35,933 --> 00:53:37,300 Everybody's been awesome work with. 1294 00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:38,566 - It's amazing. 1295 00:53:38,566 --> 00:53:41,333 I'm excited to stay in touch with y'all. 1296 00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:42,833 - Please do. - Yes, absolutely. 1297 00:53:42,833 --> 00:53:44,266 - Anything we can do to help, please let us know. 1298 00:53:44,266 --> 00:53:45,066 Thank you. 1299 00:53:46,333 --> 00:53:51,166 ♪ All right, all right, it'll be ♪ 1300 00:53:51,166 --> 00:53:52,966 - [Announcer] Funding for "Legacy List" 1301 00:53:52,966 --> 00:53:55,466 is provided by Bekins Van Lines 1302 00:53:55,466 --> 00:53:57,633 at Bekins, our goal is to provide 1303 00:53:57,633 --> 00:54:00,066 a smooth and simple moving experience. 1304 00:54:00,066 --> 00:54:02,400 No matter the size or distance of your move. 1305 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,200 Bekins is ready to help you get there. 1306 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,600 You can find us at bekins.com. 1307 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,233 Bekins, this is moving. 1308 00:54:09,233 --> 00:54:10,933 FirstLight Home Care committed 1309 00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:13,200 to providing safe and compassionate home services 1310 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,066 for you and your family. 1311 00:54:15,066 --> 00:54:17,766 FirstLight believes personal relationships and engagement 1312 00:54:17,766 --> 00:54:21,200 are as important as mobility, bathing, and personal hygiene. 1313 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,833 Details at firstlighthomecare.com. 1314 00:54:37,266 --> 00:54:40,233 ♪ All right, all right, all right ♪ 1315 00:54:40,233 --> 00:54:42,900 ♪ All right, all right 1316 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:47,000 ♪ It'll be all right, all right, all right ♪ 1317 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,033 ♪ All right, all right. 1318 00:54:49,033 --> 00:54:53,400 ♪ It'll be all right, all right, all right ♪ 1319 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,333 ♪ All right, all right 1320 00:54:55,333 --> 00:54:59,333 ♪ It'll be all right, all right, all right ♪ 1321 00:54:59,333 --> 00:55:03,000 ♪ All right, all right, it'll be ♪ 1322 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,333 - [Announcer] Visit mylegacylist.com 1323 00:55:05,333 --> 00:55:06,966 to learn more about this show 1324 00:55:06,966 --> 00:55:09,766 and the tips, tools, and resources to help you 1325 00:55:09,766 --> 00:55:13,433 or a loved one with big life transitions like this one. 1326 00:55:13,433 --> 00:55:16,933 That's www.mylegacylist.com. 1327 00:55:29,533 --> 00:55:31,833 (upbeat music)