WEBVTT 00:00.900 --> 00:02.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Coming up, Matt and his team 00:02.433 --> 00:06.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% help a couple downsize their sprawling ancestral home 00:06.500 --> 00:09.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% filled with hundreds of family heirlooms. 00:09.333 --> 00:11.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Six generations of stuff in the house. 00:11.733 --> 00:13.333 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Nobody threw anything out. 00:13.333 --> 00:14.166 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>There he is. 00:14.166 --> 00:15.633 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>And along the way, 00:15.633 --> 00:19.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% learn the truth about the property's troubling history. 00:19.433 --> 00:21.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>The reality is we're on land. 00:21.333 --> 00:23.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% People from the Civil War lived here. 00:23.033 --> 00:24.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% There were slaves on this property. 00:24.966 --> 00:26.600 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>I sort of wanna make sure 00:26.600 --> 00:28.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that my children aren't burdened with it. 00:30.733 --> 00:31.900 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>I'm Matt Paxton. 00:31.900 --> 00:32.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Let's do it, man. 00:33.800 --> 00:35.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% My team of specialists, 00:35.533 --> 00:38.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Jaime, Mike, and Avi, 00:38.200 --> 00:41.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% help me help people downsize their homes 00:41.266 --> 00:43.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and settle estates. 00:43.066 --> 00:44.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% As the largest population of baby boomers 00:44.933 --> 00:46.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% in American history 00:46.066 --> 00:48.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% transition towards retirement. 00:48.066 --> 00:51.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% they and their families face the overwhelming task 00:51.200 --> 00:53.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of emptying their homes to move. 00:53.300 --> 00:54.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We help them sift through a lifetime 00:54.933 --> 00:58.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% of possessions, heirlooms, and collectibles. 00:58.466 --> 00:59.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Oh, my gosh. 00:59.900 --> 01:01.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>She's gonna love that. 01:01.233 --> 01:03.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>To help them find the missing family treasures 01:03.533 --> 01:05.666 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% that mean the most to them. 01:05.666 --> 01:06.766 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Oh, my goodness! 01:06.766 --> 01:08.000 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Jackie Robinson. 01:08.000 --> 01:09.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And along the way, they'll discover 01:09.533 --> 01:12.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that the most important museum in the world 01:12.200 --> 01:14.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% may be in their family's basement. 01:14.300 --> 01:15.866 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Oh! 01:15.866 --> 01:17.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I've never seen that. That is cool looking. 01:17.933 --> 01:19.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>From attics to cellars, 01:19.500 --> 01:20.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% closets to cupboards, 01:20.866 --> 01:23.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we uncover the memories they want to preserve. 01:23.700 --> 01:24.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% This is living history. 01:24.800 --> 01:26.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is what we're here to find. 01:26.700 --> 01:29.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And discover the compelling, personal, 01:29.500 --> 01:33.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and often historical stories spanning generations 01:33.433 --> 01:35.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that are their family's legacy. 01:41.733 --> 01:43.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>[Female Announcer] Support for Legacy List 01:43.000 --> 01:44.933 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% comes from MakeSpace. 01:44.933 --> 01:49.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MakeSpace picks up, stores and return your items on demand. 01:49.000 --> 01:50.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Available for home or business. 01:50.600 --> 01:52.900 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% MakeSpace provides professional movers, 01:52.900 --> 01:56.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% plus bins, blankets and a digital photo inventory. 01:56.466 --> 01:59.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% You can find us at makespace.com. 01:59.233 --> 02:01.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% And by ensure long-term care 02:01.733 --> 02:04.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% where we believe aging at home near friends and family 02:04.833 --> 02:07.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is ever more possible for more people. 02:07.333 --> 02:10.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% Learn more at insureltc.com. 02:11.500 --> 02:15.000 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AARP Virginia offering family caregiving support 02:15.000 --> 02:17.733 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% with prepare to care and down sizing and decluttering 02:17.733 --> 02:20.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%   on line workshops designed to help organize and 02:20.233 --> 02:21.633 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% assess family needs 02:21.633 --> 02:23.066 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% Find the complete online workshop schedule 02:23.066 --> 02:26.900 align:left position:17.5% line:11% size:72.5% At AARP.org/virtual VA 02:27.266 --> 02:29.966 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% The Ruth Camp Campbell Foundation 02:31.766 --> 02:34.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% (bright upbeat music) 02:36.133 --> 02:37.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I'm on my way to Leesburg, Virginia 02:37.166 --> 02:38.833 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% to meet Libby Devlin. 02:40.266 --> 02:43.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% She and her husband, Nick, own the Historic Rockland Farms. 02:44.333 --> 02:46.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's a massive property. 02:46.100 --> 02:47.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% They're thinking about selling the home, 02:47.466 --> 02:49.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but before they do that, 02:49.066 --> 02:51.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they've got to downsize a lot of items. 02:51.433 --> 02:54.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% The hardest part about downsizing is getting started 02:54.066 --> 02:56.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and that's why they brought our team in. 02:56.000 --> 02:57.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We're gonna go through the house, 02:57.200 --> 02:58.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% help them declutter a little bit, 02:58.500 --> 03:00.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and hopefully find some really awesome treasures 03:00.700 --> 03:01.866 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% along the way. 03:01.866 --> 03:02.700 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% >>Hey! 03:02.700 --> 03:03.900 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% >>Libby! 03:03.900 --> 03:05.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Good to meet you! >>You made it! 03:05.133 --> 03:06.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>All right, we can't hug anymore, 03:06.066 --> 03:07.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% so I'm gonna do the elbows. 03:07.333 --> 03:08.633 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% This is amazing. 03:08.633 --> 03:11.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It's been in my family for over 200 years. 03:11.433 --> 03:12.666 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>200 years. 03:12.666 --> 03:14.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>And if you look all the way up there, 03:14.266 --> 03:18.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you can see my great-great-great grandfather's initials 03:18.366 --> 03:20.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% who built the house in 1822. 03:20.866 --> 03:24.133 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>I heard it was big. I didn't realize how big it is. 03:24.133 --> 03:25.500 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% How far does it go? 03:25.500 --> 03:26.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>600 acres, 03:26.833 --> 03:29.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and it goes all the way to the Potomac River. 03:29.100 --> 03:31.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% We have about a mile of frontage on the Potomac River. 03:31.800 --> 03:34.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Six generations of stuff in the house. 03:34.266 --> 03:35.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Nobody threw anything out. 03:35.833 --> 03:37.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>So every generation kept everything. 03:37.800 --> 03:39.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And now, who's here? Who lives here? 03:39.200 --> 03:40.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>- [Libby] Just me and my husband. 03:40.700 --> 03:44.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And I guess it's kind of come down to us to figure it out. 03:44.000 --> 03:45.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Let's do it. 03:45.233 --> 03:46.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I'm a little slow, I broke my foot, 03:46.733 --> 03:47.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% so bear with me on the steps. 03:47.933 --> 03:49.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>How did you do that? 03:49.000 --> 03:50.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>I fell off of the street. 03:50.500 --> 03:51.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>How do you fall off a street? 03:51.433 --> 03:53.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>That's a very good question. 03:58.300 --> 04:00.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% [Matt] This is amazing. 04:01.666 --> 04:03.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% [Matt] Gorgeous paintings on the steps. 04:03.500 --> 04:05.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Goes three stories up 04:05.733 --> 04:08.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and another large basement underneath. 04:08.533 --> 04:09.466 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Who is this? 04:09.466 --> 04:10.700 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>- [Libby] This is Ollie. 04:10.700 --> 04:14.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% He would like to be in everybody's 04:14.133 --> 04:15.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>life. >>center of attention. 04:15.333 --> 04:17.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Okay. Well, hello, Ollie. 04:17.333 --> 04:19.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% [Matt] All right, this is incredible. 04:19.066 --> 04:20.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Talk to me. What do you know about this clock? 04:20.366 --> 04:21.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I see a lot of clocks. 04:21.933 --> 04:23.400 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>- [Libby] I don't know. 04:23.400 --> 04:24.600 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's a grandfather clock. 04:24.600 --> 04:25.433 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% >>Correct. 04:25.433 --> 04:26.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>I don't really know 04:26.600 --> 04:28.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% anything about it. >>All right. 04:28.033 --> 04:30.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>This is special, but what you really need to see 04:30.300 --> 04:31.366 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% are these windows. 04:31.366 --> 04:33.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% This is really special to me. 04:33.500 --> 04:36.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So this is George Rust's signature. 04:36.433 --> 04:37.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Well, I'm seeing a lot of signatures. 04:37.866 --> 04:39.133 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Walk me through this. 04:39.133 --> 04:42.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>So whenever we have a family wedding here, 04:42.300 --> 04:44.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% the wedding party all signs 04:44.900 --> 04:47.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% with a diamond tip pen in the window. 04:47.000 --> 04:50.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So this is my and my husband's wedding. 04:50.233 --> 04:51.966 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% And this is... 04:51.966 --> 04:54.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% [Libby] Let me see. This is my sister up here. 04:54.400 --> 04:56.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% My parents are over down there. 04:56.033 --> 04:57.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And my brother. 04:57.900 --> 05:00.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I have never seen this. This is so cool. 05:00.600 --> 05:02.333 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% This is a real legacy. 05:02.333 --> 05:04.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>It really is, yeah. 05:04.533 --> 05:05.566 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Oh, my gosh. 05:09.300 --> 05:12.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Okay, so this is the formal living room. 05:12.033 --> 05:12.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Very formal. 05:12.900 --> 05:15.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>And this is a portrait 05:15.633 --> 05:17.900 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% of General George Rust. 05:17.900 --> 05:20.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% That's my great-great-great grandfather. 05:20.333 --> 05:21.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Great-great-great grandfather. 05:21.166 --> 05:22.433 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>I got it. Yeah. 05:22.433 --> 05:26.966 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% This is his wife, Maria Marlow Claggett. 05:26.966 --> 05:30.300 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% She had an unfortunate death. 05:30.300 --> 05:33.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The women back then wore very big skirts 05:33.966 --> 05:37.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and the houses were heated by big fireplaces. 05:37.900 --> 05:40.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And it was quite a common thing I've been told, 05:40.300 --> 05:42.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is that she actually caught fire, 05:42.466 --> 05:44.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% her dress caught fire, and died. 05:44.700 --> 05:45.933 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Wow. 05:45.933 --> 05:48.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>So yeah, that was a sad ending. 05:48.266 --> 05:50.400 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Holy cow. Okay. 05:50.400 --> 05:52.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And now she lives on forever in your formal room. 05:54.433 --> 05:57.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>And then I wanted to show you this. 05:57.033 --> 06:00.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% He was head of the artillery for Harper's Ferry 06:00.000 --> 06:01.633 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and this is his gun. 06:01.633 --> 06:03.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>This is incredible, and it is insanely heavy. 06:03.833 --> 06:05.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I know. How did they ever shoot? 06:05.266 --> 06:07.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>Gosh, you could do workouts with this thing. 06:07.000 --> 06:09.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>You could. You totally could. 06:09.800 --> 06:11.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I don't know how they could shoot 06:11.133 --> 06:13.033 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% with any accuracy with it. 06:13.033 --> 06:14.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% The weight of those things. 06:14.766 --> 06:16.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>I mean, this is really heavy just to hold it up. 06:16.900 --> 06:17.866 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Golly day. 06:19.700 --> 06:21.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>And then I have to show you this. 06:21.300 --> 06:24.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>Yeah. This is really nice folk art, obviously. 06:24.066 --> 06:25.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Yeah. It's cloggers. 06:27.900 --> 06:29.300 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Wow. 06:29.300 --> 06:31.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>And some guy put it together with old carburetors, 06:31.300 --> 06:33.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and it's just a really fun piece. 06:33.466 --> 06:35.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Well, it's a spectacular piece. 06:35.133 --> 06:36.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's Appalachian folk art. 06:36.366 --> 06:37.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I'm in love with this. 06:37.200 --> 06:38.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>It's great, isn't it? 06:42.900 --> 06:45.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% [Libby] Okay, so here's the dining room. 06:45.033 --> 06:45.866 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Wow. 06:47.033 --> 06:47.866 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Who's this? 06:47.866 --> 06:50.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>This is Ida Lee Rust. 06:50.100 --> 06:52.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So she has quite a story about her. 06:52.733 --> 06:56.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% She was the second wife 06:56.200 --> 06:58.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of Armistead Thomson Mason Rust. 06:58.700 --> 07:01.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% When he married Ida Lee, they had 11 children, 07:01.700 --> 07:03.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% plus the three from the first wife. 07:03.966 --> 07:07.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Then Armistead died, and it was after the Civil War, 07:07.633 --> 07:09.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% the place was in debt, 07:09.466 --> 07:12.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and Ida Lee somehow managed to pull it out of debt 07:12.966 --> 07:15.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and keep it in the family by herself. 07:15.100 --> 07:17.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>So the amazing property that we're standing on 07:17.466 --> 07:20.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% would not exist without this woman? 07:20.066 --> 07:22.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So you have a special place? >>She's kind of my idol. 07:22.800 --> 07:24.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>I love it. 07:24.100 --> 07:26.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This looks like Mozart's high school yearbook. 07:26.400 --> 07:27.666 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% What's going on here? 07:27.666 --> 07:29.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>This is the Lee line. 07:29.866 --> 07:32.166 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% And that's Richard Henry Lee. 07:32.166 --> 07:34.200 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% I don't know how many great grandfather 07:34.200 --> 07:36.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% and signer of the Declaration of Independence. 07:36.033 --> 07:37.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Okay, so someone in your family 07:37.533 --> 07:39.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% signed the Declaration of Independence? 07:39.133 --> 07:40.666 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% >>Correct. 07:40.666 --> 07:43.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>It's awesome and it's a heavy obligation as well. 07:43.433 --> 07:44.600 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 07:44.600 --> 07:45.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>There's a lot. >>There's a lot here. 07:45.700 --> 07:47.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Going on. >>There's a lot here. 07:47.000 --> 07:49.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>One of the concerns I had about this property 07:49.400 --> 07:51.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is there's an obvious negative history here. 07:51.266 --> 07:53.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Libby and her family immediately acknowledged it, 07:53.866 --> 07:56.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they said look, we are concerned about this 07:56.166 --> 07:58.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we know we need to do more and learn more 07:58.433 --> 08:01.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% to understand the things that happened on this property. 08:02.733 --> 08:04.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% [Matt] Where's your husband? 08:04.033 --> 08:05.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Oh, he's probably fiddling with something 08:05.933 --> 08:07.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% outside in the gardens. 08:07.033 --> 08:08.533 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>All right, cool. 08:08.533 --> 08:10.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Well, let's go meet him and we'll see what we can do. 08:13.733 --> 08:16.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% [Matt] Wow. Look at this place. 08:16.266 --> 08:18.066 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Holy cow. 08:18.066 --> 08:19.333 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% It's huge. 08:19.333 --> 08:21.566 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>It is. Lots of gardens. 08:21.566 --> 08:22.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I can see why they call it Rockland. 08:22.800 --> 08:25.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Nick is out here somewhere, I think. 08:25.633 --> 08:27.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>There he is right there. 08:27.066 --> 08:28.033 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% >>Hey! >>Hey, Nick! 08:28.033 --> 08:29.233 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% >>There he is. >>Hi! 08:29.233 --> 08:31.133 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >>Look who I have. >>How are you? 08:31.133 --> 08:32.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Good to meet you, man. 08:32.200 --> 08:33.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>You too. >>This is incredible. 08:33.600 --> 08:34.800 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Thank you. 08:34.800 --> 08:36.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I learned a lot about your family inside. 08:36.500 --> 08:39.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Maybe we can sit over there and go over the Legacy List? 08:39.200 --> 08:40.400 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>That'd be great. 08:40.400 --> 08:41.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>All right, cool. >>Let's do it. 08:41.066 --> 08:41.866 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Let's do it. 08:41.866 --> 08:42.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Ollie, you first. 08:44.600 --> 08:45.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Waiting for her daddy. 08:50.800 --> 08:53.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% [Matt] Most people that call me are about to move, 08:53.200 --> 08:54.800 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% they're ready to downsize, 08:54.800 --> 08:56.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we're not there yet with you guys. 08:56.300 --> 08:57.133 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Where are you at mentally? 08:57.133 --> 08:58.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Good question. 08:58.533 --> 09:00.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I just feel like we're getting to the point 09:00.400 --> 09:04.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% where we need to transition to the next chapter 09:04.166 --> 09:06.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because we're not getting any younger 09:06.366 --> 09:08.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and I don't wanna die here. 09:11.400 --> 09:12.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I want a simpler life. 09:12.866 --> 09:15.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>Yeah, I need a break. This is just a ton of work. 09:15.766 --> 09:16.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>It weighs on you every day. 09:16.966 --> 09:18.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I can see you're tearing up already. 09:18.333 --> 09:20.333 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>I love the place. 09:20.333 --> 09:22.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I've grown up loving it, 09:22.566 --> 09:24.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% but at the same time, 09:24.100 --> 09:27.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it sort of is an all-consuming project 09:27.333 --> 09:29.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% being a steward of this property. 09:29.633 --> 09:32.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Sometimes you wanna do your own thing. 09:32.366 --> 09:33.600 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% It's hard. 09:33.600 --> 09:36.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>How do you let go of those glass windows 09:36.700 --> 09:39.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that has 200 years of marriage? 09:39.733 --> 09:43.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>With my and my husband's name in it. 09:43.166 --> 09:45.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Something I've been really trying to work through. 09:45.533 --> 09:46.466 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 09:46.466 --> 09:47.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% If you include Libby's kids, 09:47.933 --> 09:51.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you have eight generations of people 09:51.900 --> 09:53.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that she feels like she's letting down. 09:53.800 --> 09:55.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% [Matt] It's Legacy List time. 09:55.000 --> 09:57.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And what a Legacy List is is real simple. 09:57.400 --> 09:59.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's just a few items that mean something 09:59.666 --> 10:01.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% to you and your family. 10:01.100 --> 10:03.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And a lot of times, you know where they are, 10:03.066 --> 10:05.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or you know about where they are, 10:05.066 --> 10:06.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and then sometimes you just wanna learn 10:06.300 --> 10:08.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% more information about it. 10:08.000 --> 10:09.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And we're here to help you with all of those. 10:09.466 --> 10:11.133 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I'm gonna start with you. 10:11.133 --> 10:12.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 10:12.633 --> 10:14.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Because weddings are such a big part of Rockland, 10:14.866 --> 10:17.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% so many family members have gotten married here. 10:17.100 --> 10:18.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% You saw the windows. 10:18.900 --> 10:23.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% My great grandmother had a wedding dress, 10:23.166 --> 10:24.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% it was up in the attic, 10:24.600 --> 10:26.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and I know that during my wedding, 10:26.600 --> 10:29.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it was displayed on a mannequin, 10:29.500 --> 10:32.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I just don't know what's happened to it. 10:32.500 --> 10:34.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I think it might be up in the attic. 10:34.366 --> 10:37.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% It would be really meaningful to find that. 10:39.600 --> 10:41.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >>All right, Ollie. You good? 10:41.066 --> 10:41.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>Ollie, you're done? >>All right, Ollie's done. 10:41.733 --> 10:43.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Ah, thank you. 10:43.100 --> 10:44.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Ollie doesn't wanna move either. 10:44.466 --> 10:46.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I mean, that's the problem. 10:46.500 --> 10:47.433 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% All right. 10:47.433 --> 10:49.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Nick, what's your first item? 10:49.633 --> 10:51.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>A little while back, 10:51.100 --> 10:54.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% the Potomac River was very low, it was a drought, 10:54.300 --> 10:56.300 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and I had a kayak out there, 10:56.300 --> 10:58.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and I spied a millstone. 10:58.933 --> 11:01.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Since you have a crew here, 11:01.200 --> 11:04.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% maybe we can drag it out of the river. 11:04.566 --> 11:06.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>A millstone. Is it this big, we thinking? 11:06.666 --> 11:07.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>It's not this big. 11:07.966 --> 11:09.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>How long have you wanted to get this? 11:09.666 --> 11:12.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Well, I've seen this down there 11:12.000 --> 11:14.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% for a good four years now 11:14.366 --> 11:16.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I never dreamed that I'd be able to, 11:16.933 --> 11:19.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but it's something I'd love to do. 11:19.000 --> 11:20.166 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 11:20.166 --> 11:23.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Do you have any scuba divers? 11:23.166 --> 11:24.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Sure. We'll find some stuff. 11:24.100 --> 11:24.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 11:26.300 --> 11:29.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>I mean, we always say we'll help you find anything. 11:29.366 --> 11:30.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Yeah. I took your word on that. 11:30.833 --> 11:32.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>You might test me on this one. 11:32.533 --> 11:33.800 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% All right. 11:35.966 --> 11:37.500 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% What's next? 11:37.500 --> 11:41.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>About 25 years ago when my grandfather was alive, 11:41.100 --> 11:43.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% my grandfather called up my brother 11:43.533 --> 11:47.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they had this idea of putting together a time capsule. 11:47.133 --> 11:48.933 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% My brother designed the time capsule 11:48.933 --> 11:51.966 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% and my grandfather pretty much decided what would go in it, 11:53.200 --> 11:54.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% the historical things that would go in it. 11:54.933 --> 11:56.166 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And so I'd love to- 11:56.166 --> 11:57.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>That's really cool. >>If we could figure out 11:57.200 --> 11:58.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% how to crack it open. >>Okay. 11:58.500 --> 11:59.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Gosh, you guys are pushing me. 11:59.733 --> 12:02.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% So we got a millstone, 12:02.400 --> 12:04.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I got to go diving in a creek, 12:04.366 --> 12:05.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we're gonna open up a time capsule. 12:05.700 --> 12:06.900 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% I love it. 12:06.900 --> 12:08.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Nick, what you got? 12:08.466 --> 12:11.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% [Nick] Okay well, there's some really good art in the place. 12:11.533 --> 12:12.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Yes, there is. 12:12.366 --> 12:13.633 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>There's Audubons 12:13.633 --> 12:17.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and then there's a John Beard painting. 12:17.800 --> 12:19.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Is that Audubon on the stairwell, 12:19.733 --> 12:21.000 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% is that original? 12:21.000 --> 12:22.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah, yeah. 12:22.733 --> 12:25.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And then we think we might have an Inness. 12:25.600 --> 12:27.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>That was right- >>On the staircase. 12:27.533 --> 12:30.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% We know that there were a number of real Inness' here, 12:30.400 --> 12:32.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so we thought perhaps this might be one. 12:32.433 --> 12:34.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>So I have a guy on my team that'll come in, 12:34.300 --> 12:36.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and he's one of the top experts in the country on art. 12:36.466 --> 12:37.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% He'll know immediately. 12:37.900 --> 12:41.133 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >>Yeah, please. >>That'd be great. 12:41.133 --> 12:42.833 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >>All right, Libby, you got any other ones? 12:42.833 --> 12:44.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>I know that Ida Lee, 12:44.700 --> 12:47.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% who's kind of one of my heroes 12:47.266 --> 12:50.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% for managing to keep this place in the family, 12:50.766 --> 12:54.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% she always had a diary and wrote in her diary, 12:54.766 --> 12:58.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and I would love to find that diary 12:58.500 --> 13:01.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% to see what wisdom is in there. 13:01.466 --> 13:04.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>When I started hearing about the diary of Ida Lee, 13:04.033 --> 13:06.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I realized Libby wants to be the hero, 13:06.333 --> 13:07.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% she wants to save this place, 13:07.966 --> 13:11.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and that's when the story kinda came out for me. 13:11.066 --> 13:13.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>None of my ancestors ever figured out what 13:13.700 --> 13:15.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% was gonna be, 13:15.833 --> 13:17.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% how it was gonna end up, 13:17.633 --> 13:20.166 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and I sort of wanna make sure 13:20.166 --> 13:22.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that my children aren't burdened with it. 13:22.033 --> 13:23.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>So you bring up a good point here. 13:23.733 --> 13:26.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% The reality is we're on land, 13:26.233 --> 13:28.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% people from the Civil War lived here, 13:28.233 --> 13:30.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% there were slaves on this property, 13:30.266 --> 13:32.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and yet this is a very modern property 13:32.433 --> 13:33.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% that's changing as well. 13:33.700 --> 13:35.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I drove up and there's a Black Lives Matter sign. 13:36.500 --> 13:37.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So there's a lot going on here. 13:37.900 --> 13:39.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>My daughters, 13:39.100 --> 13:41.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% they put up the Black Lives Matter sign, 13:41.233 --> 13:43.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and my daughters are very determined. 13:43.933 --> 13:44.766 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% They get it. 13:46.300 --> 13:49.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% It does, it weighs on me, definitely, and the family. 13:49.033 --> 13:50.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>And it probably weighs on them. 13:50.566 --> 13:55.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>On the one hand, if I had to let go of this place, 13:55.200 --> 13:59.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% it would be really literally heart-wrenching for me, 13:59.533 --> 14:04.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but at the same time, it would be very freeing for me. 14:04.366 --> 14:06.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>The little house and one acre of land 14:07.966 --> 14:09.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% next to a trout stream. 14:11.500 --> 14:14.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Libby absolutely lives in a museum. 14:14.633 --> 14:17.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's very difficult to get away from this obligation 14:17.366 --> 14:20.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% when you live inside it 24/7. 14:20.100 --> 14:21.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'm excited to see what we find. 14:21.800 --> 14:22.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I just wanna really thank you 14:22.966 --> 14:25.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% for letting us into your home, 14:25.000 --> 14:26.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and letting us discuss things 14:26.200 --> 14:28.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that are not always easy to discuss, 14:28.066 --> 14:32.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because sometimes saving a family legacy, 14:32.033 --> 14:34.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% sometimes we wanna hide some of this stuff, right, 14:34.466 --> 14:36.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and you've really allowed us to just talk about everything. 14:36.433 --> 14:37.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So thank you. >>We need to address it. 14:37.433 --> 14:39.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Thank you for helping us out. 14:39.266 --> 14:40.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Okay. Then let's go get started. 14:40.633 --> 14:41.466 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Great. 14:48.533 --> 14:50.200 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >>Oh, hey, Jaime. >>Hey, guys. 14:50.200 --> 14:51.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% How's it going? 14:51.566 --> 14:52.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Good, good. 14:52.833 --> 14:54.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>What's up, everybody? 14:54.000 --> 14:55.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Hey there. >>What's up, Matt? 14:56.833 --> 14:57.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Do you have something to tell us? 14:57.833 --> 15:00.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Yeah. I broke my foot. 15:00.066 --> 15:02.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I was walking down the street, a flat street, 15:02.966 --> 15:05.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and I literally fell off the road and broke my foot. 15:05.566 --> 15:06.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>That takes skill. 15:06.400 --> 15:07.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Only you. 15:07.833 --> 15:09.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>I know- I'll be a little slower than normal, 15:09.566 --> 15:11.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% so I'll need your help. 15:11.133 --> 15:12.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% This place is called Rockland. 15:13.500 --> 15:14.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% It has a cool name. 15:14.700 --> 15:17.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's been in this family since it was built. 15:17.100 --> 15:18.600 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% 200 years. 15:18.600 --> 15:20.133 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So this is pre-Civil War. 15:20.133 --> 15:23.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So for you, lots of old military history, lots of guns. 15:23.333 --> 15:24.833 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >>Excited for that. 15:24.833 --> 15:26.600 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >>Basement's awesome for you. Just tons to pick at. 15:26.600 --> 15:28.000 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% I mean tons. 15:28.000 --> 15:29.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And lots of old vintage clothes. 15:29.966 --> 15:31.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They used to host weddings here. 15:31.600 --> 15:33.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Oh, cool. 15:33.100 --> 15:34.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>There's something I've never seen done at weddings 15:34.400 --> 15:35.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% in this house 15:35.233 --> 15:36.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% that you're gonna love. 15:36.066 --> 15:36.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>I'm excited. 15:36.900 --> 15:38.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>This place is awesome. 15:38.066 --> 15:39.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But here's the challenge with this family. 15:39.600 --> 15:42.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Normally our clients, they know what they're doing, 15:42.733 --> 15:44.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and these people are stuck. 15:44.066 --> 15:45.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% They need a kick in the butt. 15:45.500 --> 15:47.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>The good news is we don't have that sentimental 15:47.900 --> 15:50.600 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% attachment and we can help them figure out ways 15:50.600 --> 15:52.400 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% to get these into new homes. 15:52.400 --> 15:54.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>There are some very complicated stories 15:54.233 --> 15:56.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% on this land as well. 15:56.100 --> 15:58.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we're gonna be talking about some real heavy issues here 15:58.966 --> 16:01.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and trying to get them to let go. 16:01.666 --> 16:04.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>I'm just excited to see a little bit more of the 16:04.733 --> 16:06.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% property and also to see inside the house. 16:06.833 --> 16:07.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I'm sure it's like a museum. 16:07.866 --> 16:10.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>All right, let's go. 16:10.000 --> 16:11.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Are you sure you're up for that? 16:11.200 --> 16:12.166 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Yes, I can do it. 16:20.566 --> 16:23.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% There's an active farm here. They've got lots of cattle. 16:23.566 --> 16:25.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Yeah. I mean, they've got it all. 16:25.633 --> 16:28.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Every time I walk the property, I see something new. 16:28.733 --> 16:30.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It really is an incredible property. 16:35.333 --> 16:38.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>I always love looking through old vintage clothing 16:38.500 --> 16:41.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% A lot of my clients get stuck when it comes 16:41.000 --> 16:43.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% to going through clothing, either their own clothing 16:43.966 --> 16:45.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or clothing that they've held on to 16:45.600 --> 16:47.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% from previous generations. 16:47.266 --> 16:48.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You keep a lot of it over time, 16:48.966 --> 16:50.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it does end up taking up a lot of space, 16:50.900 --> 16:54.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so it's a great place to start decluttering. 16:54.300 --> 16:55.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Libby had a lot of stuff in the attic, 16:55.933 --> 16:58.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and so I had a good feeling 16:58.100 --> 17:00.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that the wedding dress might be up there 17:00.366 --> 17:03.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because the rest of the house was pretty pristine. 17:03.833 --> 17:05.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Look, here's a hint. 17:06.566 --> 17:08.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% [Libby] See these shoes? 17:08.300 --> 17:10.066 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Oh, my gosh. 17:10.066 --> 17:11.500 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Cool. 17:11.500 --> 17:13.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Yeah, let's grab these things and take them downstairs 17:13.333 --> 17:15.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% where it's a little bit cooler and look through them. 17:17.566 --> 17:19.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Can you get all that? 17:20.333 --> 17:21.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Get that door out of the way. 17:22.800 --> 17:24.033 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% All right. 17:24.033 --> 17:26.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>With Libby, she had a lot of pieces 17:26.400 --> 17:28.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% that she had held on to, or had been passed down from her 17:28.900 --> 17:30.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% from previous generations, 17:30.366 --> 17:32.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and so that gave her hesitation 17:32.166 --> 17:35.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% in wanting to go through them and get rid of them. 17:35.300 --> 17:36.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% [Jaime] Look how tiny these are. 17:36.533 --> 17:38.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I know. >>They're size 34. 17:39.166 --> 17:40.100 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>34? 17:41.500 --> 17:43.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>I mean, these wouldn't have been children's shoes. 17:43.000 --> 17:44.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Well, one thing I was wondering, 17:44.400 --> 17:46.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% could these have been the shoes 17:46.200 --> 17:49.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% that my great-grandmother wore with her wedding? 17:49.066 --> 17:50.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Maybe. 17:50.300 --> 17:52.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Because she was a very small woman. 17:52.033 --> 17:53.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 17:53.300 --> 17:56.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This looks like a modern day romper, if you will, 17:56.866 --> 17:59.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% where it's like the top and the bottom all put together. 17:59.833 --> 18:03.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So it's made by Spalding, so maybe it was for some type- 18:03.366 --> 18:04.866 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>1917. 18:04.866 --> 18:06.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I mean, when you find things like this in your 18:06.733 --> 18:09.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% attic, are you inclined to want to hang on to them 18:09.166 --> 18:12.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because you know that they were part of your family? 18:12.900 --> 18:15.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Where are you in the process of being able to let things go? 18:16.933 --> 18:18.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Oh, that's hard 18:18.166 --> 18:20.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because obviously that's some vintage thing, 18:20.733 --> 18:22.700 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% but I would never use it. 18:22.700 --> 18:24.200 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Right. 18:24.200 --> 18:26.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% We don't need to hang on to that. You can let this go. 18:26.333 --> 18:27.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% This looks like- 18:27.433 --> 18:28.533 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Long underwear? 18:28.533 --> 18:30.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Yeah, long underwear, like pajamas. 18:30.900 --> 18:31.700 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Yep. 18:32.800 --> 18:34.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They're like the long underwear. 18:34.633 --> 18:35.466 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Long johns. 18:35.466 --> 18:36.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Long johns. 18:36.833 --> 18:37.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Out of Pittsburgh. 18:37.866 --> 18:39.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>So it was one of the Rusts 18:39.433 --> 18:41.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% because it was Pittsburgh. 18:41.166 --> 18:42.600 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 18:42.600 --> 18:44.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Once we started talking about it and going through it, 18:44.333 --> 18:46.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I found that the decisions were coming easier to her 18:46.633 --> 18:48.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and she was really ready to let go. 18:48.633 --> 18:50.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So I'm gonna guess you'll be okay 18:50.033 --> 18:51.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% parting with these as well? 18:51.766 --> 18:52.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Yeah, definitely. 18:52.766 --> 18:54.333 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>How about your husband? 18:54.333 --> 18:55.300 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% He won't want them? 18:56.733 --> 18:59.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>I don't think he'd want his butt hanging out there. 19:02.166 --> 19:04.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>So it looks like we found some cool stuff 19:04.333 --> 19:05.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that did belong to your family, 19:05.933 --> 19:07.766 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% but it's not your great-grandmother's wedding dress, 19:07.766 --> 19:09.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% which is really what you're hoping to find. 19:09.166 --> 19:11.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So I'm gonna run back upstairs. 19:11.166 --> 19:12.600 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 19:12.600 --> 19:13.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>And if I find anything, I'll bring it down. 19:13.533 --> 19:14.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I have a really good feeling 19:14.833 --> 19:16.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that it's up there. >>I hope you find it. 19:16.933 --> 19:19.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Yes. So wish me luck. 19:19.166 --> 19:20.300 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Okay. Good luck. 19:20.300 --> 19:21.800 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>All right. 19:21.800 --> 19:23.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I really felt the importance 19:23.566 --> 19:26.266 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% of finding her grandmother's wedding dress 19:26.266 --> 19:29.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because the history of Rockland is intertwined 19:29.433 --> 19:31.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% with all of these family weddings. 19:31.133 --> 19:34.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So I really felt the pressure to find this dress. 19:35.800 --> 19:36.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>All right, there's something I wanna show you 19:36.900 --> 19:38.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% over here in the corner. >>What's that? 19:38.400 --> 19:39.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Check it out. 19:39.866 --> 19:41.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I always like to have Avi with me 19:41.133 --> 19:43.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% when I'm looking at guns and artillery. 19:43.200 --> 19:45.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% What do you think that is? >>This is a musket, sir. 19:45.366 --> 19:46.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>A musket. 19:46.500 --> 19:48.600 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Yeah, a single-shot musket. 19:48.600 --> 19:51.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Someone might call us The Two Musketeers. 19:52.700 --> 19:55.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>When you have to work a gun like this, 19:55.000 --> 19:57.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% a muzzleload, which is loaded in front, 19:57.833 --> 19:59.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you have to pull out the ram right here, 20:01.033 --> 20:04.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and flip it over after you put the powder in, 20:04.833 --> 20:06.066 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% the mini ball. 20:06.066 --> 20:08.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>What I'm realizing is the old saying, 20:08.433 --> 20:09.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% the white of their eyes. 20:10.966 --> 20:13.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You gotta be that close to shoot 'em. 20:13.800 --> 20:16.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>And that's the big reason why that was even stated 20:16.300 --> 20:18.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% because if they weren't that close 20:18.200 --> 20:20.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% the likelihood of you hitting it is lower. 20:20.000 --> 20:21.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>So you're doing this at the same time 20:21.633 --> 20:23.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that dude right over there is doing it. 20:23.166 --> 20:24.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Running at you. 20:24.166 --> 20:25.133 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>That's crazy. 20:25.133 --> 20:27.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Then you have to cock. 20:27.100 --> 20:28.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I know people say 20:28.266 --> 20:30.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you're a little half-cocked sometimes, 20:30.533 --> 20:31.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that's where the terminology came from. 20:31.900 --> 20:34.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>That's half-cocked? >>Being half-cocked. 20:34.066 --> 20:37.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Because many soldiers, if not trained well, 20:37.100 --> 20:39.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% would try to fire this gun in a half-cocked position, 20:39.833 --> 20:41.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and it wouldn't fire. 20:41.533 --> 20:43.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>Interesting. So that's where the term came from. 20:43.733 --> 20:45.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>That's where the term comes from. 20:45.000 --> 20:48.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% 18 years old, you're running face-to-face 20:48.700 --> 20:50.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with another man across from him 20:50.833 --> 20:53.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% trying to load this gun and fire. 20:54.100 --> 20:55.400 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Crazy. 20:55.400 --> 20:56.633 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Hard to imagine. 20:56.633 --> 20:58.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I can't even get my son to mow the lawn. 20:58.766 --> 21:00.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Can't imagine a kid doing all this. 21:00.766 --> 21:02.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Sending them into battle. 21:02.500 --> 21:04.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>A lot of the families that we work with, 21:04.400 --> 21:07.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% guns become a romantic part of their history, 21:07.000 --> 21:08.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and Rockland is no different. 21:08.700 --> 21:10.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I mean, there was apparently a famous duel, 21:10.966 --> 21:13.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% actually right across the river from this property, 21:13.200 --> 21:15.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% where a good family friend was actually killed, 21:15.466 --> 21:18.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and they actually got the property back into the family 21:18.633 --> 21:20.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% because of this duel. 21:20.266 --> 21:22.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Dueling dates back to the Middle Ages 21:22.733 --> 21:25.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% when knights would resolve their differences 21:25.000 --> 21:27.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% by engaging in mortal combat. 21:27.700 --> 21:31.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% These days, if you get into a public argument with someone, 21:31.100 --> 21:33.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you settle the affair on Twitter, 21:33.733 --> 21:36.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but it wasn't that long ago that matters of honor 21:36.733 --> 21:39.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% were settled with three simple words. 21:39.733 --> 21:41.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Pistols at dawn. 21:43.166 --> 21:46.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% The first published code of dueling appeared in Ireland 21:46.666 --> 21:48.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and established a series of rules 21:48.600 --> 21:52.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that noblemen could follow when settling matters of honor. 21:52.466 --> 21:55.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% During the 17th and early 18th centuries, 21:55.400 --> 21:57.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% swords were the weapons of choice, 21:57.866 --> 21:59.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% but by the late 18th century, 21:59.800 --> 22:03.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% duels were more commonly fought using pistols. 22:03.866 --> 22:05.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Once a challenge was issued, 22:05.700 --> 22:07.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% it was difficult to turn down 22:07.900 --> 22:10.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% unless you wanted to be marked as a coward 22:10.133 --> 22:11.466 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% for the rest of your life. 22:13.000 --> 22:17.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% A proper duel was a dignified affair and had strict rules. 22:19.133 --> 22:21.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Participants would meet at a chosen spot, 22:21.233 --> 22:23.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% usually accompanied by a second, 22:23.666 --> 22:26.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% who would ensure the rules were followed. 22:26.600 --> 22:28.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% The men would face their opponents 22:28.300 --> 22:32.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% at an agreed upon distance with loaded pistols in hand. 22:32.666 --> 22:35.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Each party would fire one shot. 22:36.600 --> 22:39.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% If neither was hit, and the challenger satisfied, 22:39.100 --> 22:41.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the duel would be declared over 22:41.133 --> 22:44.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% with both men's honor still intact. 22:45.800 --> 22:48.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Dueling was popular in the Americas as well, 22:48.800 --> 22:51.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% especially in the South. 22:51.433 --> 22:53.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Andrew Jackson, our seventh president, 22:53.933 --> 22:55.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% fought dozens of duels, 22:55.666 --> 22:59.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% with some estimates as high as 100. 22:59.300 --> 23:01.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% But the most famous American duel 23:01.533 --> 23:04.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% was fought on July 11th, 1804, 23:04.533 --> 23:07.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, 23:07.966 --> 23:11.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% two men who were long-time rivals. 23:11.066 --> 23:14.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Many believe Hamilton never planned to aim at Burr 23:14.600 --> 23:17.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% hoping instead to fire a shot into the air 23:17.233 --> 23:19.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and resolve the matter peacefully, 23:20.166 --> 23:22.400 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% but Burr wasn't as merciful 23:22.400 --> 23:24.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and shot Hamilton in the stomach. 23:25.666 --> 23:28.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The former secretary of treasury 23:28.000 --> 23:32.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and inspiration for one of Broadway's biggest musicals 23:32.033 --> 23:34.200 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% died the next day. 23:34.200 --> 23:39.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Duels continued, even among U.S. congressmen for decades. 23:39.200 --> 23:40.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% It was only after the country 23:40.900 --> 23:45.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% endured four years of violence brought on by the Civil War 23:45.000 --> 23:48.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that the practice of dueling met its match. 23:53.300 --> 23:54.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Matt is telling us where we're all 23:54.633 --> 23:56.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% gonna be picking and working, 23:56.900 --> 23:59.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and, of course, I get the basement, 23:59.400 --> 24:01.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but this wasn't any ordinary basement. 24:03.666 --> 24:05.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% [Mike] So what happened here, Nick? 24:05.900 --> 24:07.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>This was the catchall room. 24:07.966 --> 24:10.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Just, I guess, throwing stuff in here. 24:10.500 --> 24:13.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>As I understand it, this is the room 24:13.066 --> 24:15.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that we are going to help you with declutter. 24:15.200 --> 24:18.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I know you guys have struggled with this room for awhile. 24:18.600 --> 24:20.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% What has been the biggest challenge for you? 24:20.333 --> 24:22.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I know there's treasures in here. 24:22.566 --> 24:24.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Maybe you can help me with that. 24:24.233 --> 24:26.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Libby had mentioned that seven generations 24:26.500 --> 24:28.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% had passed through this house, 24:28.000 --> 24:30.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% so I was pretty certain we were gonna find things 24:30.400 --> 24:32.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that dated back hundreds of years, 24:32.066 --> 24:34.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and sure enough, we did. 24:34.166 --> 24:37.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% [Mike] General George Rust. 24:37.133 --> 24:39.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Oh, is that General George Rust's razor? 24:39.000 --> 24:40.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Pretty important name to your family. 24:40.100 --> 24:41.300 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>It's a big name. 24:41.300 --> 24:44.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% How about this painting? How do I get to it? 24:44.300 --> 24:47.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>This is what we see in attics and basements. 24:47.466 --> 24:50.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Stuff gets tossed in here, and piled on top of. 24:50.366 --> 24:51.633 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Take a look. 24:51.633 --> 24:53.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Yeah, let's see what we got here. 24:53.266 --> 24:55.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>This is where we used to hang the hams. 24:55.966 --> 24:56.800 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Right here. 24:58.266 --> 24:59.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>Why don't I go ahead and dust this off real quick? 24:59.466 --> 25:01.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% See what we're working with here. 25:03.566 --> 25:05.066 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>There he is. 25:05.066 --> 25:06.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I'll tell you what, this is pretty cool. 25:06.400 --> 25:07.366 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 25:07.366 --> 25:08.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Is it a print? What is it? 25:08.666 --> 25:09.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>It's a print. 25:10.900 --> 25:13.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I'm just trying to see if there's any kind of signature 25:13.466 --> 25:16.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% or a printer's mark on it, but I don't see anything, 25:16.833 --> 25:18.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% but it's beautiful. 25:18.100 --> 25:19.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>It is beautiful. I wanna hang this. 25:19.800 --> 25:21.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Yeah. Let's get it out of the basement 25:21.400 --> 25:22.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and get it to where people can see it. 25:22.700 --> 25:24.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>I think so. 25:24.233 --> 25:25.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>At this point, Nick, I'm gonna get my guys in here 25:25.766 --> 25:27.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and we're gonna get started. 25:27.033 --> 25:27.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Let's go for it. 25:27.866 --> 25:28.700 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>All right. 25:35.466 --> 25:36.766 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% >>I've worked on and off with Avi 25:36.766 --> 25:38.300 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% for over 20 years now. 25:38.300 --> 25:39.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We were friends in high school. 25:39.800 --> 25:42.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And people think that he just is a cleaner and an expert. 25:42.466 --> 25:45.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% People don't realize that Avi is also an ordained minister, 25:45.500 --> 25:47.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% he is a community leader, 25:47.433 --> 25:50.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and he does a lot with civil rights work in our town. 25:50.800 --> 25:53.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I wanted him to really tell me what his opinions were 25:53.733 --> 25:55.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% of the entire story of the property, 25:55.866 --> 25:58.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% not just the positive stuff in the house. 25:58.700 --> 26:01.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So Avi, this was a working farm, 26:01.066 --> 26:03.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% for, gosh, almost 180 years. 26:05.166 --> 26:07.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And obviously the people that did the work 26:07.433 --> 26:09.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% were enslaved people, 26:09.433 --> 26:11.666 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and this is where they lived. 26:13.200 --> 26:14.633 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>A lot of emotions. 26:14.633 --> 26:15.900 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Yeah, like what? 26:17.133 --> 26:21.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Just realizing that people who look like me, 26:23.600 --> 26:24.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% through families, 26:26.566 --> 26:29.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% through pain, through suffering, 26:31.200 --> 26:33.033 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% I'm thankful. 26:33.033 --> 26:37.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I'm thankful and really grateful for what they did, 26:37.400 --> 26:38.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% that they endured that, 26:39.966 --> 26:41.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and I'm able to stand here today, 26:41.766 --> 26:46.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% talking with you as a black man, because of them. 26:48.166 --> 26:50.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% There are people still suffering because of this. 26:50.266 --> 26:51.500 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Yes. Absolutely. 26:51.500 --> 26:53.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>And so we can't just let it go. 26:53.700 --> 26:56.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% We have to talk about it. We have to have this dialogue. 26:56.666 --> 26:59.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>So Libby really wants to know more about this. 26:59.900 --> 27:01.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% She wants to do more. 27:01.266 --> 27:03.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% She doesn't know what we can do. 27:03.466 --> 27:05.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I'd like for you to sit down with her. 27:05.000 --> 27:07.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Would you be willing to sit with her and kinda help her? 27:07.866 --> 27:09.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>I would love to. 27:09.833 --> 27:12.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The great thing about our work is the stories 27:12.033 --> 27:14.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% we learn about these families 27:14.200 --> 27:16.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and just having the opportunity 27:16.100 --> 27:19.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% to bring our own perspective to it. 27:19.000 --> 27:22.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So I'm really happy to hear that Libby's open 27:22.100 --> 27:24.200 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% to have that conversation, 27:24.200 --> 27:26.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% understanding that it's a burden for her, 27:26.200 --> 27:29.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and I wanna be there to help talk her through it. 27:29.100 --> 27:31.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>We find history in people's attics and in their 27:31.900 --> 27:33.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% homes and this is history. 27:33.700 --> 27:34.866 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 27:34.866 --> 27:37.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It's not comfortable, but it's history, 27:37.333 --> 27:40.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and what I've learned from you is we gotta talk about it. 27:40.533 --> 27:41.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>We gotta talk about it. 27:45.966 --> 27:48.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Most of my clients have held on to 27:48.200 --> 27:51.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% either their wedding dress or their mother's wedding dress. 27:51.400 --> 27:54.500 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% It's very sentimental. It reminds them of a very happy time. 27:54.500 --> 27:56.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They hope that they'll be able to pass it down 27:56.200 --> 27:57.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% to the next generation. 27:57.733 --> 28:00.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% That's what makes it harder to part with wedding dresses 28:00.666 --> 28:04.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and why we find them being held on to so frequently. 28:05.466 --> 28:08.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I felt really relieved that I found the wedding dress 28:08.500 --> 28:11.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% because I knew how important it was for Libby. 28:12.233 --> 28:14.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The style that it was, the two piece style, 28:14.300 --> 28:15.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% is somewhat trendy these days, 28:15.900 --> 28:18.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so it was really, really cool to see something 28:18.933 --> 28:21.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% from so long ago that is really relevant 28:21.233 --> 28:23.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and kind of current right now to the trend. 28:24.800 --> 28:27.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>No garment is scrutinized, stressed over, 28:27.966 --> 28:31.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and envied more than the dress a bride wears 28:31.366 --> 28:33.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% on her wedding day. 28:33.433 --> 28:36.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's the centerpiece of an age old ritual 28:36.300 --> 28:39.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% with a history as colorful as a bridesmaid's bouquet. 28:42.600 --> 28:46.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Public marriages date back more than 4,000 years. 28:46.833 --> 28:49.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Back then, wedding dresses were a way 28:49.066 --> 28:52.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% for a family to show off its social status. 28:52.133 --> 28:53.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Weddings were less about 28:53.400 --> 28:55.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% the bride making a fashion statement 28:55.500 --> 28:58.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and more about the joining of two families, 28:58.300 --> 29:01.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% often strategic unions arranged by the parents. 29:02.933 --> 29:06.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In Ancient Rome, marriages were an important social event, 29:06.033 --> 29:09.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% celebrated with large parties and feasts. 29:10.333 --> 29:13.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Wedding dresses varied from culture to culture. 29:13.566 --> 29:16.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% In Spain, brides wear black dresses 29:16.133 --> 29:19.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to show their devotion until death. 29:20.133 --> 29:22.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Hindu ceremonies call for bright saris, 29:22.700 --> 29:24.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% often red with gold embroidery, 29:24.900 --> 29:29.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% symbolizing commitment, spirituality, and fertility. 29:29.200 --> 29:30.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% The bride might also apply 29:30.666 --> 29:33.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% a dash of red Kakuma powder for good luck. 29:35.166 --> 29:38.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% As trade routes between Europe and the East opened up, 29:38.433 --> 29:41.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a variety of new fabrics became available. 29:41.833 --> 29:45.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So when did brides start wearing white? 29:45.433 --> 29:48.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was none other than Queen Victoria herself, 29:48.566 --> 29:51.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% who in 1840 kicked off the tradition 29:51.166 --> 29:53.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% of wearing white on your wedding day. 29:53.600 --> 29:56.233 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% The practice quickly flourished amongst brides 29:56.233 --> 30:00.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in high society, and the tradition was born. 30:00.600 --> 30:03.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The white wedding dress trend really took root 30:03.100 --> 30:06.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with middle-class brides after World War II. 30:06.433 --> 30:07.700 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% The reason? 30:07.700 --> 30:09.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Advanced laundry techniques 30:09.733 --> 30:12.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% ensured white dresses stayed white. 30:14.400 --> 30:17.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Wedding dresses today, like weddings themselves, 30:17.500 --> 30:20.300 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% come in all shapes and sizes. 30:20.300 --> 30:24.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% They've evolved from being a symbol of a family status 30:24.200 --> 30:28.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to an expression of the bride's individuality and style. 30:33.233 --> 30:34.166 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>You mind if we take a look 30:34.166 --> 30:35.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in some of these other cabinets? 30:35.500 --> 30:36.466 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Let me show you. 30:36.466 --> 30:38.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>This may be uranium glass. 30:38.066 --> 30:39.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% If it is true uranium glass, 30:39.766 --> 30:43.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it has uranium to give it the green color. 30:44.666 --> 30:45.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% What do we have here? 30:45.866 --> 30:47.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I think this is what Libby and I used 30:47.600 --> 30:49.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% to cut our wedding cake with. 30:49.366 --> 30:50.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Whoa, whoa, whoa, 30:50.600 --> 30:52.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you're telling me at your wedding 30:52.633 --> 30:55.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in front of however many people were there, 30:56.500 --> 30:58.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you pulled this out to cut the wedding cake? 30:58.166 --> 31:00.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I did because my wife told me to. 31:01.966 --> 31:03.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Was she holding the sword 31:03.866 --> 31:05.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% when she ordered you to do that? 31:05.300 --> 31:07.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I think we were holding it together. 31:07.533 --> 31:09.000 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>That's amazing. 31:09.000 --> 31:11.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Whether it's by conversation or through your items, 31:11.900 --> 31:15.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I'm really getting a better picture for just who you are. 31:15.900 --> 31:17.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>We like to have a little bit of fun, 31:17.133 --> 31:18.666 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% make people laugh. 31:18.666 --> 31:20.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I think you underplay it a little bit. 31:20.966 --> 31:23.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I can keep something like that around. 31:23.366 --> 31:26.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% We'll do it for our 50th anniversary. 31:32.233 --> 31:33.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Yeah. It's fun showing you around. 31:33.866 --> 31:35.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Yeah, it's been great. 31:35.666 --> 31:37.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I'm just amazed, I continue to be amazed 31:37.800 --> 31:40.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% at how it just keeps going on and on and on. 31:40.533 --> 31:43.233 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>It does. It does. 31:43.233 --> 31:45.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>I will say every step of the way has been beautiful. 31:45.766 --> 31:48.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% What I love about what we do 31:48.333 --> 31:51.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is, of course, helping them downsize 31:51.333 --> 31:54.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% with the physical stuff is always great, 31:54.566 --> 31:57.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but also helping them work through the clutter 31:57.100 --> 31:58.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that's keeping them from moving forward 31:58.666 --> 32:01.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% that's not just the stuff. 32:01.000 --> 32:03.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I feel like it's also part of who we are. 32:03.633 --> 32:07.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So having a chance to sit with Libby 32:07.433 --> 32:12.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and talk through some of that clutter, I consider a gift. 32:12.033 --> 32:17.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% When did you realize what was happening here at Rockland 32:18.200 --> 32:20.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% in terms of having enslaved labor? 32:20.100 --> 32:22.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Not 'till like maybe I was a teenager. 32:22.633 --> 32:25.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% When I used to come and visit my grandparents here, 32:26.600 --> 32:29.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% we would stay in 32:29.433 --> 32:31.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% what they referred to as the quarters. 32:31.233 --> 32:32.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And of course, as a little girl, 32:32.500 --> 32:35.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I didn't know why it was named the quarters. 32:36.500 --> 32:39.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And then we've always since called it the quarters, 32:39.200 --> 32:41.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I don't even know if that's proper, 32:41.233 --> 32:45.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% that's really right to be calling it that still. 32:45.166 --> 32:46.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>How did that make you feel, though? 32:46.800 --> 32:50.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% How did you feel when you realized 32:50.066 --> 32:51.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that there were enslaved people here? 32:54.200 --> 32:55.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>I guess a little ashamed 32:55.900 --> 32:59.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% not knowing what to do with that knowledge. 32:59.033 --> 33:00.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's sort of embarrassing. 33:02.000 --> 33:05.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% But it's part of this place. 33:05.533 --> 33:07.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I don't think a lot was said about it 33:07.166 --> 33:09.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% when I was growing up when I'd come visit here. 33:09.766 --> 33:11.000 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Sure. 33:11.000 --> 33:12.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I don't think a lot was acknowledged 33:12.700 --> 33:17.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% about how horrible that was. 33:17.433 --> 33:18.700 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Right. 33:18.700 --> 33:20.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>It was just sort of glazed over. 33:20.200 --> 33:24.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% But knowing that there were people treated differently 33:25.466 --> 33:27.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% than the other people that lived here, 33:27.666 --> 33:31.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they were all living in the same place, 33:31.200 --> 33:33.366 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% it's hurtful. 33:33.366 --> 33:35.366 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% It's not my values. 33:35.366 --> 33:39.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I love what you said about acknowledgement. 33:39.133 --> 33:42.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I think we're all in a space of acknowledgement. 33:42.766 --> 33:46.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And you're wondering where and how, 33:46.666 --> 33:48.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% but you're starting right now. 33:48.200 --> 33:49.400 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Right. 33:49.400 --> 33:51.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It takes difficult conversations like this 33:51.900 --> 33:53.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to move us forward collectively. 33:54.566 --> 33:56.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>My wheels are turning. 33:56.933 --> 34:00.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think it's the result of this show, actually, 34:00.366 --> 34:02.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% talking to Matt, talking to you. 34:02.066 --> 34:07.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Maybe someday there can be conversations here at Rockland 34:07.000 --> 34:11.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% with a diverse group of people to educate each other. 34:11.366 --> 34:14.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I love the fact that you're open 34:14.066 --> 34:15.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% to bringing people together. 34:15.966 --> 34:17.200 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Absolutely. 34:17.200 --> 34:18.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>In a space that was so divisive, right? 34:18.600 --> 34:20.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I think that's the true way to heal. 34:20.866 --> 34:23.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% We have to address the pain, 34:23.233 --> 34:27.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% to know it's there, to know the wound does exist, 34:27.200 --> 34:30.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but begin to heal by having these conversations, 34:30.100 --> 34:33.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and not just conversations, but building relationships. 34:33.500 --> 34:34.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Connections, yeah. 34:34.433 --> 34:35.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>That we build connection. 34:35.700 --> 34:38.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% That we find likeness in each other. 34:40.033 --> 34:42.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>And we can learn from each other. 34:43.833 --> 34:45.333 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>I love that. 34:45.333 --> 34:47.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% What I understand about where we are today in this country 34:47.400 --> 34:49.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% is there's a lot of brokenness. 34:49.100 --> 34:50.366 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I run to that stuff. 34:51.266 --> 34:53.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Those are the places I wanna be 34:53.333 --> 34:55.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because that's where you can make a difference. 35:06.666 --> 35:08.200 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >>Libby was right. 35:08.200 --> 35:11.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% There was a time capsule in the attic. 35:11.000 --> 35:13.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% This is basically Marine grade PVC pipe, 35:13.200 --> 35:14.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% so it's gonna date it. 35:14.466 --> 35:16.033 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% It's not that old. 35:16.033 --> 35:17.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Yeah, it couldn't be that old. 35:17.400 --> 35:19.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I mean, this is not a Civil War time capsule, 35:19.600 --> 35:21.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% but who knows what's in it? 35:21.100 --> 35:22.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>I'll tell you with this family, you never know. 35:22.366 --> 35:24.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Yeah. Let me get this thing open. 35:30.666 --> 35:33.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I'm gonna let you help me out with this. 35:33.300 --> 35:35.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I'm gonna loosen it up first. 35:35.566 --> 35:37.300 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% All right. You got it. 35:37.300 --> 35:38.200 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>I appreciate it. 35:42.966 --> 35:44.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>You need help? 35:44.100 --> 35:45.400 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>There we go. 35:45.400 --> 35:47.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>All right, holy cow. >>Okay. Okay. 35:47.233 --> 35:48.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Look at this. 35:48.466 --> 35:50.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% What their grandfather did is really cool. 35:50.366 --> 35:54.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% He took a lot of time putting all these things together. 35:54.033 --> 35:56.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% 1969. First man to walk on the moon. 35:56.900 --> 35:58.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I hope the next generation will appreciate all the work 35:58.733 --> 35:59.666 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% that he went to. 35:59.666 --> 36:02.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% To take the time to do all this. 36:02.166 --> 36:03.400 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Oh! 36:03.400 --> 36:06.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>The very last Sears catalog. 36:06.533 --> 36:07.966 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Man. 36:07.966 --> 36:09.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>Now this is really cool 36:09.500 --> 36:11.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% 'cause a lot of times I find the original Sears catalogs, 36:11.566 --> 36:13.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% your houses were built. 36:13.100 --> 36:16.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You'd buy a kit from the Sears catalog. 36:16.133 --> 36:19.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>My whole Christmas came out of the Sears catalog. 36:19.500 --> 36:20.933 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Oh, that's cool. 36:20.933 --> 36:23.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It can slide. I know exactly what that is. 36:25.700 --> 36:27.333 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>That the casing? 36:27.333 --> 36:28.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>These are cool. 36:29.433 --> 36:31.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Every good engineer would have one. 36:32.466 --> 36:33.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Now I know nothing about this family, 36:33.966 --> 36:37.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but man, the time capsule is making us know some stuff. 36:37.633 --> 36:40.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>This an education. This is definitely an education. 36:40.400 --> 36:41.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% National Geographic. 36:42.633 --> 36:44.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% 1993 was a significant year. 36:44.766 --> 36:47.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>This was just the year they decided to do it. 36:47.100 --> 36:48.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Everything would've come out of this. 36:48.766 --> 36:52.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>You just see a whole family's entire history 36:52.300 --> 36:53.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% unfold right before your eyes. 36:53.800 --> 36:56.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% What that means to us means something 36:56.300 --> 36:57.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so totally different to the family. 36:57.866 --> 37:01.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>It makes me wanna go make one for my kids, 37:01.100 --> 37:02.166 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% for their kids. 37:02.166 --> 37:03.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>I was thinking about that too. 37:03.700 --> 37:04.800 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>This is really cool. 37:11.700 --> 37:13.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% [Matt] There's so much nice furniture and paintings 37:13.900 --> 37:15.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% in this house, I've got to bring Lex in. 37:15.600 --> 37:16.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Even though they're not selling this stuff, 37:16.900 --> 37:18.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I still wanna know what it's worth, 37:18.366 --> 37:20.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but, most importantly, I just need Lex to look at it 37:20.333 --> 37:22.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% so I know everything that's here. 37:23.866 --> 37:24.800 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Lex. 37:24.800 --> 37:26.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Hey, man. How are you, dude? 37:26.333 --> 37:27.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I'm well. >>Good to see you. 37:27.833 --> 37:29.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>This place is amazing >>It's amazing, isn't it? 37:29.566 --> 37:31.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Rockland. It's incredible. 37:31.066 --> 37:35.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% This house is filled with lots of cool furniture, 37:35.500 --> 37:36.733 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% lots of old books. 37:36.733 --> 37:38.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Every floor has a library. 37:38.666 --> 37:40.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>That's pretty amazing. 37:40.000 --> 37:42.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>All right, I feel like we always start 37:42.200 --> 37:43.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>with a clock. 37:43.900 --> 37:46.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It's a beautiful form. It's a great clock. 37:46.366 --> 37:48.300 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Is it George Fix? 37:48.300 --> 37:51.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>George Fix was a Reading, Pennsylvania clockmaker. 37:51.200 --> 37:53.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Nothing in this house is for sale really, 37:53.400 --> 37:54.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but if it was for sale, 37:54.633 --> 37:55.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% what would something like this go for? 37:55.800 --> 37:57.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Well, it's great size, great proportions, 37:57.000 --> 37:58.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% great surface, known maker. 37:58.633 --> 38:01.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Probably conservatively in the 15,000, 38:01.566 --> 38:04.400 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% maybe on a good day pushing into 20. 38:04.400 --> 38:05.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% But it's a great piece. 38:06.733 --> 38:07.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Now when I walked in the door, though, 38:07.666 --> 38:08.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I saw something right away. 38:08.633 --> 38:09.766 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% >>You did? >>I did. 38:09.766 --> 38:11.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And from a distance, I could tell 38:11.666 --> 38:13.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% what it related to artist-wise. 38:13.166 --> 38:14.133 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Is it over there? 38:14.133 --> 38:15.366 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% >>It is. >>Alright. 38:15.366 --> 38:16.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% That's actually why I called you. 38:16.466 --> 38:17.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Okay, cool. >>Let's go check it out. 38:17.666 --> 38:19.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The family was very curious about an Inness. 38:19.300 --> 38:21.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It was hanging up on the stairwell. 38:21.300 --> 38:23.133 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And it's actually the first thing that Lex looked at. 38:23.133 --> 38:24.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% When he walked in the front door, 38:24.233 --> 38:25.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I could see him peering at it. 38:25.633 --> 38:27.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% >>Right away, it has the earmarks 38:27.933 --> 38:29.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of an artist named George Inness 38:29.166 --> 38:31.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% who was one of the more important 38:31.400 --> 38:34.266 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% 19th century landscape artists of the latter half. 38:34.266 --> 38:37.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>And there were five or six in this house. 38:37.900 --> 38:39.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% >>Really? >>At one time. 38:39.100 --> 38:41.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>Okay. >>So the family is curious. 38:41.300 --> 38:42.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Right. >>Is this an Inness? 38:42.833 --> 38:44.033 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 38:44.033 --> 38:45.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The paintings of this particular period, 38:45.233 --> 38:47.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% which would be called American Tonalism, 38:47.266 --> 38:49.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% was influenced by the European Barbizon. 38:49.800 --> 38:52.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% They tend to be very loosely painted 38:52.000 --> 38:53.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% in comparison to the Hudson River School, 38:53.933 --> 38:55.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% which is where he started out. 38:55.033 --> 38:56.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% So tighter. 38:56.233 --> 38:57.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Well, that's what I was wondering. 38:57.166 --> 38:58.333 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So these aren't detailed. 38:58.333 --> 38:59.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>They're not, and they're not meant to be. 38:59.866 --> 39:01.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's supposed to be more of an atmospheric picture. 39:01.933 --> 39:02.766 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Stunning. 39:02.766 --> 39:04.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And I love the rainbow. 39:04.400 --> 39:06.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Did you see if it was signed? 39:06.400 --> 39:07.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>I don't see the signature. 39:07.900 --> 39:09.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It's possible it's buried under here. 39:09.766 --> 39:11.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Sure, and that does happen. 39:11.233 --> 39:14.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Let's see what kind of markings are over here. 39:14.066 --> 39:15.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% What do you see on the back? 39:15.733 --> 39:18.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Well, that's an early backboard. 39:18.166 --> 39:19.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% What would probably be wise 39:19.566 --> 39:21.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% is if we could get permission from the owners 39:21.500 --> 39:23.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to maybe take it out of the frame 39:23.100 --> 39:25.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we might reveal a signature that... 39:25.133 --> 39:27.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It does look like it has slid down. 39:27.033 --> 39:29.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>I'm really curious if there's a signature there. 39:29.766 --> 39:31.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% We would need to go 39:31.000 --> 39:32.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% into a temperature controlled environment 39:32.933 --> 39:37.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% to take it off of the frame to get 100% verification, 39:37.466 --> 39:41.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but every part of this painting added up for Lex. 39:41.800 --> 39:43.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% He's pretty confident it's an Inness. 39:43.366 --> 39:45.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% What would something like this go for, 39:45.100 --> 39:45.933 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% if it's an Inness? 39:45.933 --> 39:47.300 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>If it's an Inness, 39:47.300 --> 39:48.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and if it's unsigned, 39:48.700 --> 39:50.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% probably in this market, 39:52.433 --> 39:54.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% 20 to 30, between that range. 39:54.100 --> 39:55.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >>What if it's signed? 39:55.566 --> 39:57.600 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >>If it's signed, it could push a little harder. 39:58.766 --> 40:00.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I dig this. I know it is a library chair. 40:00.900 --> 40:02.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% What do you know about something like this? 40:02.333 --> 40:04.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>Okay, so this is a metamorphic library chair. 40:04.600 --> 40:06.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So what you would do with something like this, 40:06.533 --> 40:08.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it'll have a latch, there we go, 40:08.900 --> 40:10.333 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and you bring it forward. 40:11.733 --> 40:15.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And so you would have not only a chair in your library, 40:15.966 --> 40:18.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but steps to climb up to the books 40:18.200 --> 40:20.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that you couldn't reach. >>That's super cool. 40:20.200 --> 40:21.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% We've got three more floors. 40:21.833 --> 40:24.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>I'll take a walk and see what the rest looks like. 40:31.200 --> 40:32.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>One of the items on the Legacy List 40:32.933 --> 40:34.166 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% is actually for Nick. 40:34.166 --> 40:36.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Pulling a millstone out of the river. 40:36.600 --> 40:38.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I didn't know how that was gonna work, 40:38.133 --> 40:41.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but I was really interested to see how it would play out. 40:42.266 --> 40:43.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>So what's the best way for me to get... 40:43.700 --> 40:45.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I see it looks like a pretty high. 40:45.200 --> 40:46.700 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>It's pretty high. Yeah. 40:46.700 --> 40:49.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You go down to the river and there's a kayak there, 40:49.966 --> 40:52.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and then you're gonna have to go upstream a bit 40:52.633 --> 40:54.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and then come up the limestone. 40:54.333 --> 40:55.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>So it's two lefts? 40:55.766 --> 40:57.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Kinda like Mount Everest. It's just two lefts. 40:57.800 --> 41:00.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% This is not something I was expecting, but why not? 41:00.433 --> 41:01.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's kind of an adventure and let's go 41:01.766 --> 41:03.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and see if we can find this millstone. 41:11.100 --> 41:12.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Look at this. Gorgeous. 41:14.966 --> 41:18.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I feel like Jacques Cousteau pulling through the Amazon 41:19.466 --> 41:21.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% looking for a stone table. 41:21.900 --> 41:23.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>What's this chain for? 41:23.133 --> 41:25.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Well, I got the millstone hooked up. 41:25.433 --> 41:26.666 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% >>You did? 41:26.666 --> 41:29.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Yeah. Spent all day yesterday hooking it up. 41:29.266 --> 41:31.033 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>This is super cool. 41:31.033 --> 41:33.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Normally Matt is the one messing with us. 41:33.333 --> 41:34.600 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I think we're gonna use this 41:34.600 --> 41:36.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% as an opportunity to mess with him. 41:36.400 --> 41:37.466 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Okay. 41:37.466 --> 41:38.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>There's Ollie. 41:39.500 --> 41:40.600 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Hey, Matt! 41:40.600 --> 41:41.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>What's up, dudes? 41:41.933 --> 41:43.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>How's it going, Matt? 41:43.166 --> 41:45.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>It's a harrowing adventure, man. 41:45.033 --> 41:47.400 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>I think you're almost there. 41:47.400 --> 41:48.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>What do you think, Nick? Is that too far? 41:48.633 --> 41:49.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Back up, back up. 41:51.066 --> 41:52.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Are you guys sure it's over here? 41:52.500 --> 41:54.233 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Yeah, absolutely. 41:54.233 --> 41:56.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You let us worry about spotting it, okay? 41:57.700 --> 41:59.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I'm on the shore here. I don't see it. 41:59.600 --> 42:00.533 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% >>No, no. 42:00.533 --> 42:01.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>You went too far. Go back. 42:01.933 --> 42:03.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>I kind of feel like 42:04.200 --> 42:05.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% maybe you guys know where this thing is. 42:05.966 --> 42:07.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Hey, Matt, I think it's right there. 42:07.533 --> 42:08.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>I think I'm right at it. 42:08.366 --> 42:09.666 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Yeah. That's where. 42:09.666 --> 42:10.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>That's where we're trying to 42:10.700 --> 42:12.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% get you to go the whole time. 42:12.733 --> 42:15.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>You see that vine, or that rope, I guess it is? 42:15.000 --> 42:15.833 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 42:15.833 --> 42:16.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>That's tied to it. 42:16.900 --> 42:18.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>That's tied to it! 42:18.700 --> 42:21.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I feel like Mike might've had some fun with me on this one. 42:21.966 --> 42:23.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So what do you want me to do here? 42:23.433 --> 42:24.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Just get out of the way and let you guys pull it up? 42:24.900 --> 42:26.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I guess. >>That would be great. 42:28.966 --> 42:30.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Fernando, let's go. 42:30.933 --> 42:32.200 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Mike, 42:32.200 --> 42:34.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% he may not hear me, so I'll talk to you 42:34.200 --> 42:36.233 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and then you talk to him. >>Okay. Got it. 42:46.000 --> 42:48.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>Okay! We got it all hooked up. 42:48.333 --> 42:49.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% We're ready to go, okay? 42:49.566 --> 42:52.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>Let's do it. Here we go. 42:52.433 --> 42:54.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% [Nick] There it is. >>It's a beauty. 42:54.600 --> 42:56.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>It's like a shark coming out of the water, man. 42:56.300 --> 42:57.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Yeah, I think this tractor 42:57.700 --> 42:59.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% just blows through everything. 42:59.133 --> 42:59.966 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 43:00.900 --> 43:02.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Just went right past that rock. 43:02.733 --> 43:03.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>What does that next rock look like? 43:03.966 --> 43:06.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Oh, it's gonna pull it right off. 43:06.766 --> 43:07.600 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% There it is. 43:10.800 --> 43:12.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's gorgeous. I can see why you want it. 43:12.866 --> 43:14.600 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% >>Yeah. >>Beautiful. 43:14.600 --> 43:15.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Keep it going! 43:21.100 --> 43:22.033 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% >>Alright. 43:24.766 --> 43:25.800 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% That's awesome. 43:25.800 --> 43:27.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>I think my job is done. 43:27.000 --> 43:29.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Hey, man, we got it! >>We did it! 43:30.566 --> 43:32.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>True leader knows when to lead and when to follow. 43:34.400 --> 43:36.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>What does this moment mean for you? 43:36.033 --> 43:38.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>It's quite gratifying. I love it. 43:38.433 --> 43:40.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's been down there for five years about, I think. 43:40.866 --> 43:43.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Seeing it, it's taunted me, and we did it. 43:43.300 --> 43:46.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>This will be one that we talk about for a long time. 43:46.033 --> 43:47.133 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Okay, good. 43:53.500 --> 43:57.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I think Libby wanted to find this diary. 43:57.100 --> 44:00.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I think Libby was looking for any type of words of wisdom. 44:00.533 --> 44:03.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Ida Lee essentially saved the farm, 44:03.766 --> 44:08.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and that's what Libby is wondering if she should do now. 44:08.066 --> 44:09.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Are you having any luck over there? 44:09.900 --> 44:10.733 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>I wish I was. 44:13.066 --> 44:14.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% In a house that large, 44:14.966 --> 44:17.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it's like finding a needle in a haystack. 44:17.100 --> 44:18.366 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Ooh. 44:18.366 --> 44:19.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>This house keeps going and going. 44:19.766 --> 44:22.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It does. There's a room for every occasion. 44:22.966 --> 44:25.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I mean, there's so many places that things 44:25.066 --> 44:28.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% could be stowed away and hidden and just forgotten about. 44:28.666 --> 44:31.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% There's nooks and crannies. There's drawers everywhere. 44:31.633 --> 44:32.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>Treasure hunt. 44:32.566 --> 44:33.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Look at all these portraits. 44:35.700 --> 44:38.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I wonder how long they had to sit to be painted like that? 44:38.733 --> 44:41.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% They had to hold that facial expression. 44:41.233 --> 44:42.600 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 44:42.600 --> 44:44.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Ah, the portrait painting. 44:44.866 --> 44:46.366 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% For hundreds of years, 44:46.366 --> 44:48.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% no self-respecting member of society 44:48.966 --> 44:51.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% would ever think of not having a painting 44:51.566 --> 44:54.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% of a dead relative hanging somewhere in their house. 44:55.800 --> 44:57.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The more important the relative, 44:57.900 --> 44:59.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% the more prominent the placement. 45:01.700 --> 45:03.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The practice of immortalizing oneself 45:03.966 --> 45:06.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% dates back to Ancient Egypt. 45:06.566 --> 45:10.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Rulers were commonly depicted on stone or clay 45:10.200 --> 45:12.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% in a highly stylized way 45:12.033 --> 45:14.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that rarely looked anything like them. 45:15.900 --> 45:18.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The Greeks and Romans honored their dead 45:18.133 --> 45:21.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% with lifelike busts made out of stone. 45:21.300 --> 45:23.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It wasn't until the Middle Ages 45:23.766 --> 45:26.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that portraits began to take hold. 45:26.466 --> 45:30.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Rich donors would pay artists to paint their likenesses, 45:30.166 --> 45:34.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% usually in frescoes or on paneled blocks of wood. 45:35.566 --> 45:38.266 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Portrait painting flourished during the Renaissance. 45:38.266 --> 45:39.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% And it wasn't just nobility. 45:41.033 --> 45:43.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Everyone was getting in on the act, 45:43.400 --> 45:47.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% including a shy acquaintance of Leonardo da Vinci 45:47.300 --> 45:49.800 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% by the name of Lisa. 45:49.800 --> 45:53.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Da Vinci reportedly worked on his masterpiece for years, 45:53.833 --> 45:57.400 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% which might explain the expression on his subject's face. 45:58.900 --> 46:00.566 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% By the 18th century, 46:00.566 --> 46:04.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% anyone who was anyone had their portrait painted, 46:04.566 --> 46:07.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% from members of the Royal Family, to military leaders, 46:07.766 --> 46:09.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and titans of business. 46:10.433 --> 46:13.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Portraits were realistic and well lit 46:13.000 --> 46:15.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and usually depicted the subject 46:15.233 --> 46:17.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% wearing the latest fashion of the day. 46:19.100 --> 46:21.400 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Portraits were and still are 46:21.400 --> 46:23.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% a symbol of power and immortality. 46:24.933 --> 46:27.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Every president since George Washington 46:27.233 --> 46:29.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% has had their portrait painted, 46:29.333 --> 46:31.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% not without controversy. 46:31.466 --> 46:33.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% When Teddy Roosevelt's family 46:33.100 --> 46:36.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% said his looked like a mewing cat, 46:36.566 --> 46:38.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% he had the painting destroyed 46:38.333 --> 46:41.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and commissioned a new artist. 46:41.000 --> 46:43.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Herbert Hoover's portrait was completed 46:43.166 --> 46:46.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% 23 years after he left office. 46:46.733 --> 46:49.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% John Kennedy's after he was assassinated. 46:50.833 --> 46:54.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But thanks to the power of portrait painting, 46:54.133 --> 46:57.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% immortality is just a brush stroke away. 47:01.333 --> 47:03.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>All right, Lex, why are we back here? 47:03.066 --> 47:05.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>We are back here, as you suggested, 47:05.533 --> 47:08.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% for me to walk around and look closer at everything. 47:08.066 --> 47:11.266 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I wanted to know the origins where it comes from, 47:11.266 --> 47:13.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and most of the time when we are doing 47:13.566 --> 47:17.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% attributions of region, we're basing it on the woods. 47:17.600 --> 47:20.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Not woods like the mahogany or walnut 47:20.166 --> 47:21.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% that are used on the exterior, 47:21.700 --> 47:24.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but what's on the interiors, called the secondary woods. 47:24.666 --> 47:26.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And initially I took a look at these drawers 47:26.933 --> 47:28.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and I looked at the woods, 47:28.433 --> 47:31.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and I was vacillating between a couple of woods, 47:31.600 --> 47:33.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and it turns out it's cypress, 47:33.133 --> 47:35.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% which means North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia. 47:35.833 --> 47:37.433 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Kind of exciting. 47:37.433 --> 47:39.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Furniture of this type of the southern states 47:39.400 --> 47:41.133 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% is fairly rare. 47:41.133 --> 47:43.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So I took the piece apart even more, 47:43.200 --> 47:45.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and on the top of this secretary part, 47:45.433 --> 47:50.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% it says Isaac Coleman made and sold August 25th of 1809. 47:51.166 --> 47:52.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>This is 210 years old? 47:52.433 --> 47:53.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Yeah. 210 years old. 47:53.966 --> 47:58.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Between the intricate inlay and the marquetry shell, 47:58.800 --> 48:00.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% there's some burl inlay. 48:00.500 --> 48:03.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's a great piece of North Carolina furniture. 48:03.733 --> 48:05.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>So obviously they're not gonna sell the furniture, 48:05.366 --> 48:07.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but if they were trying to sell it, what would this go for? 48:07.733 --> 48:09.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% >>So I talked to some colleagues, 48:09.433 --> 48:12.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and, conservatively, I think a 30 to $50,000 estimate 48:12.933 --> 48:14.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% would be appropriate. 48:14.200 --> 48:17.466 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% If it went to auction, it could do very well. 48:21.633 --> 48:24.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>We've given Libby and Nick a headstart. 48:26.166 --> 48:27.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% We got the attic cleaned out. 48:27.366 --> 48:29.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% We got some of the basement cleaned out. 48:30.333 --> 48:31.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Finally, we're gonna get to sit down 48:31.800 --> 48:33.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and go through the Legacy List. 48:35.466 --> 48:37.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% [Matt] Normally we're here to clean the house out, 48:38.800 --> 48:40.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and we didn't do that this week. 48:40.800 --> 48:42.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% So the last couple of days, 48:42.000 --> 48:43.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% we did declutter some rooms in the attic 48:43.800 --> 48:46.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and we cleaned out some of the rooms in the basement. 48:46.600 --> 48:49.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>That's great, yeah. Get me started. 48:49.133 --> 48:50.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% >>A little bit. 48:50.833 --> 48:55.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You physically carry this weight on you on a daily basis. 48:56.300 --> 48:57.100 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 48:57.100 --> 48:58.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>It's so obvious. 48:58.866 --> 48:59.866 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 48:59.866 --> 49:01.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% It's kind of like... 49:01.533 --> 49:05.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Well, we always joke that we don't own Rockland, 49:05.366 --> 49:07.233 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Rockland owns us. 49:07.233 --> 49:08.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>And it does. I've seen that. 49:08.833 --> 49:10.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Just all encompassing. 49:10.633 --> 49:13.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>Nick is able to enjoy this place. 49:13.433 --> 49:14.533 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>True. I do. 49:16.000 --> 49:18.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Nick could have fun in a cardboard box. 49:18.666 --> 49:19.566 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I've learned that. 49:19.566 --> 49:20.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>That's true. 49:20.500 --> 49:22.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>But I feel the weight for you. 49:22.600 --> 49:25.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And the hardest part about downsizing, 49:25.600 --> 49:27.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% to me, it's the fear. 49:27.400 --> 49:29.300 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% If I stay, what do I miss? 49:29.300 --> 49:31.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% If I go, what do I miss? 49:33.100 --> 49:35.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% We're gonna go through the Legacy List, 49:35.200 --> 49:39.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and my hopes is that we can just plant that seed 49:39.200 --> 49:41.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and help you kinda figure out where you're gonna go next. 49:41.333 --> 49:45.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So the first item on the Legacy List was the wedding dress. 49:45.100 --> 49:46.700 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Right. 49:46.700 --> 49:48.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Whoa. Whoa. 49:48.100 --> 49:50.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I find wedding dresses every day. 49:50.100 --> 49:52.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Really? >>And almost everybody. 49:52.033 --> 49:54.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% But this one's a little special 49:54.133 --> 49:56.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because of how big a deal weddings have been 49:56.766 --> 49:57.666 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% on this property. 49:57.666 --> 49:59.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Absolutely. Yeah. 49:59.833 --> 50:01.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>I love that. 50:01.500 --> 50:02.900 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% >>Yeah, I do too. 50:02.900 --> 50:05.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% This is my great grandmother's 50:05.000 --> 50:08.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% on my father's mother's side. 50:08.200 --> 50:11.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So her favorite flower was the black-eyed Susan 50:11.866 --> 50:15.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and these embroidered flowers are, 50:15.333 --> 50:19.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think it's supposed to represent the black-eyed Susan. 50:19.033 --> 50:20.666 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Well, it's gorgeous. 50:20.666 --> 50:24.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>Look at the Victorian neck line. Wow. 50:24.533 --> 50:25.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>How does it make you feel? 50:25.900 --> 50:27.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There's no wrong answer. >>Special. 50:27.800 --> 50:30.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% It's like a thing that I've been wondering where it was 50:30.233 --> 50:32.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and it's so great to have it back. 50:32.266 --> 50:34.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Now I wanna display it. 50:37.600 --> 50:40.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>This next item was really cool for me. 50:40.600 --> 50:45.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It is absolutely an awesome time capsule. 50:47.000 --> 50:49.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% A time capsule's supposed give you a look back in time. 50:49.766 --> 50:52.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It wasn't the 1800s. It was 1993. 50:52.500 --> 50:55.300 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Avi and I both actually graduated from high school in 1993, 50:55.300 --> 50:57.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so we got to go through this time capsule. 50:57.733 --> 50:58.566 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Man. 50:58.566 --> 51:00.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% There were VHS tapes. 51:00.866 --> 51:02.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Oh, yeah. Interesting. 51:02.133 --> 51:03.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>There were lots of different things. 51:03.633 --> 51:06.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% The thing I loved the most was the Sears catalog. 51:07.733 --> 51:10.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% By the way, intricately detailed. 51:10.366 --> 51:11.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Everything is labeled. 51:11.900 --> 51:15.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Everything is wrapped in saran wrap or protective plastic. 51:15.000 --> 51:18.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% There's even a catalog of every item that is in here. 51:18.566 --> 51:21.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Although, it's not that long ago, a lot has changed. 51:21.433 --> 51:22.666 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 51:22.666 --> 51:25.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>If the goal was to set out with his grandson 51:25.133 --> 51:28.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% to do a project that gave us a glimpse back in time, 51:28.366 --> 51:30.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% they absolutely achieved it. 51:30.266 --> 51:32.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>That's great. That's amazing. 51:35.000 --> 51:36.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>When I came to visit, 51:36.166 --> 51:37.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% the first time I walked in this house, 51:37.566 --> 51:38.966 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% first thing I saw 51:38.966 --> 51:41.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% was that beautiful painting on the stairwell. 51:41.933 --> 51:42.966 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Possibly Inness. 51:42.966 --> 51:44.466 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Right. 51:44.466 --> 51:47.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I had to bring in one of my top experts. 51:47.033 --> 51:48.533 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Lex came in. 51:48.533 --> 51:51.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He was drawn so quickly to that Inness. 51:51.800 --> 51:53.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He's like, I know what that is. 51:53.366 --> 51:54.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% >>Really? >>Yeah? 51:54.566 --> 51:56.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>He knew. He said it's gotta be. 51:56.400 --> 51:57.633 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And it wasn't, by the way, 51:57.633 --> 51:59.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I thought the rainbow would be the reason. 51:59.433 --> 52:00.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 52:00.633 --> 52:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>It's not. It's the specific brush strokes. 52:02.166 --> 52:03.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>Oh, interesting. Wow. 52:03.933 --> 52:06.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>He said that's an Inness and it's probably not signed. 52:06.366 --> 52:09.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% He said the typical brush strokes that are on that 52:09.200 --> 52:10.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% was later in his career. 52:10.333 --> 52:11.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He was a very prolific painter. 52:11.600 --> 52:13.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So by the end, he stopped signing them. 52:13.900 --> 52:15.200 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Oh, okay. 52:15.200 --> 52:18.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>He would like to get it off the frame, 52:18.200 --> 52:20.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but we were at about 99% that that's an Inness. 52:20.933 --> 52:22.166 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Wow. 52:22.166 --> 52:24.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>And it's a really, really nice painting. 52:24.200 --> 52:25.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>I almost didn't wanna show it to you 52:25.866 --> 52:27.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because I was afraid you were gonna say 52:27.900 --> 52:29.566 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% it's not an Inness. 52:29.566 --> 52:31.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>He said he'd be shocked if it wasn't. 52:31.166 --> 52:33.233 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% >>Really? That's exciting for me. 52:33.233 --> 52:34.066 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Wow. 52:35.033 --> 52:36.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>He's one of my favorites. 52:36.533 --> 52:38.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Yeah. You love the Hudson River painters. 52:38.666 --> 52:40.300 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Well, yeah. 52:40.300 --> 52:41.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>But that's a beautiful piece, 52:41.766 --> 52:44.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and I think that's came from the ancestors, correct? 52:44.000 --> 52:45.466 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Yes, yes. 52:45.466 --> 52:46.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Yes, absolutely. 52:46.700 --> 52:47.966 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% That was here. 52:47.966 --> 52:49.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% >>It's always been here. 52:49.333 --> 52:50.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% [Nick] It was up in the attic. 52:50.266 --> 52:51.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>You knew it was in the attic. 52:52.566 --> 52:54.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% So beautiful piece. 52:54.100 --> 52:57.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% As much grief as I've given you for this being a museum, 52:57.333 --> 52:58.433 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% it kinda is. 52:58.433 --> 52:59.366 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 52:59.366 --> 53:00.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >>You got stuff that needs to be 53:00.433 --> 53:02.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% in museums in this house, 53:02.266 --> 53:03.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% which is really, really awesome. 53:06.466 --> 53:09.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% [Matt] I wanna go to my last Legacy List item, 53:09.900 --> 53:13.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% which is, I think, your hero, Ida Lee Rust. 53:13.066 --> 53:14.333 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Yes. 53:14.333 --> 53:15.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>She's kind of the hero of this property. 53:15.633 --> 53:17.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% >>Yeah. >>She saved it. 53:17.333 --> 53:20.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>She did. She got it out of debt. 53:20.400 --> 53:21.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>She did as a single mom, right? 53:21.833 --> 53:23.233 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>Single mom. Yeah. 53:23.233 --> 53:26.200 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% She educated all 14 children. 53:26.200 --> 53:27.733 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>All right, here is a picture 53:27.733 --> 53:30.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% that we found of Ida Lee. 53:30.266 --> 53:32.100 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% >>Wow. 53:32.100 --> 53:33.033 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Wow. 53:34.433 --> 53:37.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>And then here is a picture of Ida with her family, 53:38.333 --> 53:39.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% with all of her kids. 53:39.766 --> 53:41.033 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Oh, yeah. 53:41.033 --> 53:42.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And that's all the kids? 53:42.566 --> 53:43.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>That's a lot of the kids. >>Or at least some of them 53:43.933 --> 53:45.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% >>It's a full batch. 53:45.600 --> 53:48.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>We gotta frame these. I mean, that's great. 53:48.000 --> 53:51.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I loved your connection to Ida. 53:51.766 --> 53:53.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You're kind of in the Ida Lee situation, 53:53.500 --> 53:56.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% not as bad as death and a war, 53:56.266 --> 53:58.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but are you gonna save the place or not? 53:58.533 --> 54:01.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>Well, that's what I keep praying to all my 54:01.600 --> 54:05.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% ancestors her is a big one of them, saying help me out here. 54:05.866 --> 54:07.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>I get why we're looking for words 54:07.566 --> 54:08.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% of wisdom from Ida Lee. 54:08.733 --> 54:10.233 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% >>Yeah. >>Okay. 54:10.233 --> 54:12.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% [Matt] I wasn't able to find those words of wisdom, 54:12.033 --> 54:14.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but I was able to find some words of wisdom. 54:16.066 --> 54:18.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Here is a letter from a cousin 54:18.433 --> 54:20.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% on the Lee side of your family. 54:20.633 --> 54:23.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I want you to read this sentence right here for me. 54:23.666 --> 54:26.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >>I do not like to take the responsibility 54:26.533 --> 54:29.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% of urging an immediate sale of Rockland, 54:29.500 --> 54:33.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and yet I do not see what else can be done. 54:34.566 --> 54:36.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% The estate is getting deeper and deeper in debt. 54:38.066 --> 54:40.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Now the interest, taxes, and insurance 54:40.633 --> 54:43.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% takes all the place can make, 54:43.000 --> 54:45.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so there's nothing left for the family 54:45.166 --> 54:47.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but to borrow more money to live on. 54:47.700 --> 54:50.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% This cannot go on very long, you know. 54:51.466 --> 54:52.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% >>What's the date on that? 54:52.933 --> 54:54.233 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>1889. 54:54.233 --> 54:56.600 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% December, 1889. 54:56.600 --> 55:00.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>So 1889, someone is really having the same 55:00.633 --> 55:03.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% discussion that you're having right now. 55:03.366 --> 55:06.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I covered up the date on this letter 55:06.000 --> 55:09.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because I wanted Libby to see that the ancestors 55:09.433 --> 55:13.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% that she admires so much had the exact same struggles 55:13.166 --> 55:14.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% that she has today. 55:14.700 --> 55:17.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's not Ida Lee's words. That's well after Ida Lee. 55:18.933 --> 55:20.166 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% >>Yeah. 55:20.166 --> 55:21.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% >>But this is a hard thing to do. 55:22.500 --> 55:23.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% This burden you're carrying, 55:25.033 --> 55:26.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% it's not just yours. 55:26.966 --> 55:28.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's been going on a long time. 55:30.866 --> 55:33.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I think this place is amazing and it's changed me 55:33.233 --> 55:35.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% in the few short days I was here. 55:36.733 --> 55:40.100 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% >>Maybe with my girls here, 55:40.100 --> 55:41.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I thought, well, maybe there's ways 55:41.766 --> 55:46.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% that we could have 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56:11.433 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >>Absolutely. 56:11.433 --> 56:12.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% >>And if that's the choice that was made 56:12.633 --> 56:14.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% in your downsizing process, then awesome. 56:15.833 --> 56:17.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And you might also decide in two years, 56:17.433 --> 56:18.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% you know what, we're leaving. 56:20.033 --> 56:20.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And that's okay too. 56:22.100 --> 56:23.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Well, we hope we helped a little bit. 56:23.466 --> 56:24.966 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% >>You did. 56:24.966 --> 56:26.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% >>And when you do wanna clean out the rest of the 56:26.366 --> 56:27.800 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% room, give us a call. 56:27.800 --> 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