- [Male Voice] Coming up on

 

Legacy List with Matt Paxton.

The team is in Columbus,

 

Ohio to help an NBA legend

and his wife settle

 

into their forever home.

Over the years, the family

 

has moved several times

and many of their belongings

 

are still in boxes.

- [Cheryl] Wall-to-wall,

 

floor-to-ceiling, front-to-back.

- [Matt] That includes

 

a treasure trove

of championship collectibles.

- Autographed by

 

Shaquille O'Neil.

- [Mike] Oh my gosh.

 

- [Matt] I'm Matt Paxton.

Let's do it, man.

 

My team of specialists,

 

Jaime, Mike and Avi

help me help people

 

downsize their homes

and settle estates.

As the largest population

 

of baby boomers

in American history

 

transition towards retirement,

they and their families

 

face the overwhelming task

of emptying their homes to move.

We help them sift through

 

a lifetime of possessions-

- Bingo.

- [Matt] heirlooms

 

and collectibles...

We have a literally

 

found a piece of history.

To help them find the

 

missing family treasures

that mean the most to them.

- Oh, my goodness.

 

- [Matt] Jackie Robinson.

And along the way,

they'll discover that the most

 

important museum in the world

may be in their

 

family's basement.

- Oh.

 

- Oh.

 

- I've never seen that.

That is cool looking.

- From attics to cellars,

 

closets to cupboards,

we uncover the memories

 

they want to preserve.

This is living history.

This is what we're here to find.

Let's go.

 

- Let's go.

- [Matt] And discover

 

the compelling, personal,

and often historical stories

spanning generations that

 

are their family's legacy.

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(birds chirping)

 

- [Female Voice]

 

Funding for Legacy List

is provided by Bekins Van Lines.

At Bekins, our

 

goal is to provide

a smooth and simple

 

moving experience

no matter the size or

 

distance of your move.

Bekins is ready to

 

help you get there.

You can find us at bekins.com.

Bekins.

This is Moving.

- [Female Voice]

 

FirstLight Home Care.

Committed to providing safe

 

and compassionate home services

for you and your family.

FirstLight believes personal

 

relationships and engagement

are as important as mobility,

 

bathing and personal hygiene.

Details at

 

firstlighthomecare.com.

 

- [Female Voice]

 

The Mavins Group,

a downsizing real estate sales

 

and move management company

 

committed to easing the

 

emotional and physical demands

of beginning a

 

new stage of life.

 

The Mavins Group.

So much more than a move.

 

- [Female Voice]

 

Insure Long Term Care,

where we believe

 

that aging at home,

your friends and family

 

is ever more possible

for more people.

Learn more at insureltc.com.

 

- [Female Voice] And by the

 

Ruth Camp Campbell Foundation.

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- Today I'm in Columbus, Ohio,

 

capital of the Buckeye state.

I'm here to meet Jim

 

and Cheryl Cleamons.

They've been moving for 20

 

years because of Jim's job,

and now that they're retired,

they need help settling

 

into their forever home

because they're tired

 

of living out of boxes.

(upbeat cheerful music)

 

(soft knocking)

 

Hello, hello.

 

- Hey.

How are you.

So good to meet you.

- Good to finally

 

meet you in person.

- Yes, sir.

 

- Coach, good to see you, man.

- Nice to see you.

- Thank you, thank you.

This is awesome.

 

- Yeah.

- Very cool.

(upbeat cheerful music)

Tell me why we're here.

Give me the whole story.

- We're literally downsizing.

We're kind of downsizing

 

different than most people do.

Instead of downsizing

 

in actual house size

we're taking multiple

 

houses that we have here

and downsizing them into one.

- Everywhere you've lived you

 

all have boxes in each place.

- Oh, yeah.

So we have boxes from

 

New Orleans, from Dallas,

from Chicago, from Los Angeles.

Oh, my God.

And there's Oklahoma, Milwaukee-

- Everything.

 

- and New York.

So yeah.

- So it's all now to come here.

- All here in Ohio.

 

- Okay.

All right, and that's

 

where we're retiring.

- This is where we are.

- Okay, are we retired or not?

- This is where we are.

I'm too young to retire.

 

- Fair enough, okay.

All right, all right.

Okay, are you retired,

 

or you're not?

- I'm still active-

 

- Okay.

- and if the right job

 

or opportunity came along

I would certainly think about it

because it's still in my blood.

- Okay.

Jim's career is amazing.

As a player he played

 

with Jerry West,

Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor.

He even won a NBA

 

Championship as a rookie

and then he went on to

 

coach with Phil Jackson

and some of the best.

Kobe, Shaq and Jordan

 

and Pippen with Chicago.

 

You are a teacher educator.

 

- [Jim] Yes.

- [Matt] You were a player.

 

- [Jim] Yes.

- And then the world would

 

label you a coach at one point.

- Well, I don't mind

 

what others say.

I do.

 

I would hope that the

 

proof is in the pudding

as to how well I do it and

 

those that listened to me

and understand what

 

I'm trying to do

is make our communities

 

and our young people

who want to aspire

 

to be athletes, make

 

them better people.

- Okay.

The proof is in the

 

pudding with your story.

 

You've won a few championships.

- I've been fortunate enough

 

to go to 12 NBA Championships

and of the 12 I've been

 

to our teams have won 10.

- Okay, so nine as a teacher-

- One as a player.

 

- one as a player.

- Kinda cool.

 

- It is very cool.

- [Cheryl] It is very cool.

 

- [Matt] It is very cool.

- [Cheryl] Yeah.

 

(upbeat cheerful music)

- All right, so this is

 

where the real stuff is.

- Yes.

We're getting there.

 

- All right.

- [Cheryl] We're getting there.

- [Matt] So walk

 

me through this.

How did we get like this?

'Cause you're an ordered person.

- I got stuck.

- Okay, when?

- I got stuck here.

- What got y'all stuck?

What do you think?

- Time.

 

- Sentiment.

- Sentiment, okay.

- I look at the boxes

 

and I think, gosh,

who knows where they're from?

Can be from 10 different cities.

- [Cheryl] It could be.

- Jim's got his first year

 

off in a very long time

and although I think

 

he's kind of on the bench

ready to go again, they finally

 

got a pause in his career

and they can unpack

 

all their stuff.

How much of this stuff

 

is your adult children's?

- Oh, 75.

- There's a lot of emotions

and the kids have

 

been in college

and we don't want to discard

 

anything that they want.

So we have been, not

 

necessarily dysfunctional,

but waiting to get together.

- We've given them the

 

opportunity through high school,

through the

 

beginnings of college.

Now, it's my turn to help them.

- Okay.

How many kids do y'all have?

 

- We have two daughters.

- Oh, you remembered.

Okay, good.

Just wanted to see

 

if you remember.

- Yeah.

 

- All right,

so we got all these

 

boxes over here

and then we've got all

 

these boxes over here,

but I know it doesn't add up.

Where's the real volume?

- Okay, you ready?

 

- I'm ready.

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- All right, here we go.

- [Matt] Show me this.

- [Jim] You got

 

your eyes closed?

- [Cheryl] There's

 

two doors, remember?

- [Matt] All right.

- So we're talking about

 

wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling,

front-to-back.

- Okay, this is real.

 

- It's just a little bit.

It's real.

- Crates, furniture.

 

I mean, it's really

 

two garages deep.

It's doable.

I mean, I've got a big

 

team we'll bring in here.

What's this space do

 

when we're done with it?

It'll be emptied.

- It's a house.

- A house for this car?

- Yes.

 

- All right, this is gorgeous.

- My mom bought it from

 

my brother in 1973.

 

He learned how to drive on it.

And then he taught my sister

and then she learned

 

how to drive on it.

And then she taught

 

me how to drive on it.

It's not allowed to

 

leave the family.

- [Matt] All right.

 

- [Jim] Not at this point.

- [Matt] This is going

 

to be a lot of work,

but if we can empty this

 

space, get it more organized,

make enough space for this

 

car, uncover a few items,

will this be enough to

 

get you guys started?

- That'd be great to

 

get to get me started.

- So the only thing left

 

to do is for us go inside.

I'm want to sit down

and I want to learn about

 

everything on your Legacy List.

- Okay.

- Are you ready?

- Let's do it.

 

- Okay.

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- We're here to help you as

 

opposed to kind of save you.

A lot of families are lost.

They don't know what to do.

Think y'all just

 

need help physically.

It's a little different.

 

So the stuff part

 

is pretty easy.

All right, we're going to

 

organize the room behind me.

Then we're going to spend

 

majority of the time

in the garage.

 

- Yes.

 

- That's the real, I think,

 

holding everybody back, right.

Normally, we have you

 

guys just kind of go away

and let us do our thing, but

 

I think, one, I want you there

just because you

 

know all the answers

and I just want to hear

 

your stories to be honest.

So I hope that you'll

 

be there with us.

It's a lot, but we can do it.

All right, main reason

 

we're here, Legacy List.

- Okay.

 

- And I am very excited

to hear what's on your

 

ultimate Legacy List.

- Oh, well we do

 

have a few items

that are out there that

 

we're kind of looking for.

- Okay.

- Quite frankly, I think

 

I've got some sports jewelry

out there.

- Okay, walk me through

 

the sports jewelry.

What is that?

- When they won a championship,

I worked really hard for

 

it too so I got a gift.

- So as a girlfriend,

 

I got a necklace,

and as a wife, I got

 

a couple of rings too.

- Okay, so the wives

 

or the partners,

they also get some type of...

- They can get if their

 

significant other-

- Are as amazing as yours.

- Yes, and they deem that.

- So I have one pendant

 

and I think three rings.

 

- Okay, I've never seen any

 

of these championship rings.

I don't know what

 

they would look like.

If by any chance, would

 

you have a ring to show me

what it would look

 

like or anything?

- I have a couple.

You wanna see them?

- Yeah, I'd love to

 

see at least one.

Yeah.

When I realized I was going

 

to Jim Cleamons house,

I got excited because I

 

know he's got 10 NBA rings,

but I was glad he

 

knew where they were.

So they weren't on

 

the Legacy List.

Man, this is...

I mean, this is real history.

 

- It's pretty cool, isn't it?

- It's really cool.

You have 10 rings.

 

Do you ever just wear

 

them out, like all 10?

I can't see you do it.

 

- As proud as I

 

am of those rings,

my favorite is not

 

a championship ring.

It's a ring that was given

 

to us as team members

in commemorance of

 

winning 33 games in a row.

- [Cheryl] It's

 

still the record too.

- Yeah, it's still the record.

Most wins in a row.

And I was kind of just trying

to act like I'd

 

been there before

and not show that I

 

was really excited,

but it was fascinating to

 

actually hold these things.

So what else do we have?

- He still has the

 

training and practice books

from during his time

and they should be in

 

a box in the garage

and that's on the list.

- That's on the Legacy List?

- That's on the

 

list to look for.

- Each day we have

 

a practice plan.

 

It's almost like a teacher's.

Which were accomplished today?

- So the equation for

 

success is in these books.

Okay.

- We've got like

 

little pink shoes.

Little girl's dance shoes

that our little dancer,

 

our daughter, Imani.

 

- And she's now...

- Wizards dancer.

- She's now a Wizards dancer.

And you started off as a dancer.

- I danced, yes.

I'm a World Champion

 

Cheerleader.

- There it is.

(Cheryl laughs)

 

- [Matt] All right,

 

what else we have?

- So he's got some scrapbooks

 

that were created for them.

- Yeah, walk me through that.

You said someone

 

gave you as a gift.

- Yeah, we had a young man

who worked in the sports

 

information department.

Unbeknownst to me he'd

 

been keeping a scrapbook

of basically my

 

entire college career

and they were in

 

binders like this.

- Wow.

- But he taken the time to

 

put this together for me

 

and like I said, it was

 

one of the kindest gestures

 

someone's ever done.

I know we had it.

Now, the question is,

 

do we still have it?

 

- So my grandma,

 

bless her heart,

she used to hand

 

make our quilts.

So she used to hand

 

cut her patterns

and it looked like

 

a little baby doll

and she'd created

 

these little squares.

And then when you flip the

 

quilt over, it was very cool

because they were made

 

out of flour sacks.

And so it would say Birmingham

 

Alabama Flour Company

so it was like...

And so it was pretty cool and

 

I'm very attached to them.

So hopefully it's there.

 

- All right, what

 

else do we have?

- I have a couple more things.

- I'm in.

- One thing that I think

 

means a lot to both of us

is our wedding

 

brooms are out there.

 

I'm not sure if you

 

know what those are.

- You would jump the broom.

- Absolutely, we did,

 

and there's the picture.

- Walk me through the

 

historical significance

- Of jumping the broom?

 

- Yeah.

- During slavery, slaves

 

weren't allowed to marry.

So it signified their

 

commitment to each other

and that's the moment

 

that they became connected

and married.

 

- Jumping the broom is a popular

 

ritual at black weddings.

Once a couple is pronounced

 

married, they hold hands,

face the crowd and jump over

 

a broomstick on the floor.

 

It's a custom that's been

 

around for hundreds of years.

When enslaved couples were

 

forbidden from legally marrying,

they would jump the broom

to signify their

 

commitment to each other.

Some speculate the

 

practice started in Ghana.

Other historians trace it

 

back to the Romany communities

of 18th century Wales.

You might need a broom

to sweep up after another

 

popular wedding tradition,

throwing rice,

possibly dating back

 

to the ancient Romans.

The ritual is meant to symbolize

 

fertility and prosperity.

These days some couples

 

go against the grain

and opt for pedals

 

or even bubbles.

 

A Jewish wedding ceremony

ends with stomping on

 

a cloth-wrapped glass.

Traditionally, the

 

groom does the smashing.

Nowadays, both

 

spouses may take part.

Some interpret the broken glass

as a reminder of

 

life's fragility.

Even at joyous ceremonies,

we carry the sorrow

 

of our ancestors.

As soon as the glass breaks

 

guests shout mazel tov.

 

Which marriage tradition

is actually a relatively

 

recent invention?

Diamond engagement rings.

Turns out diamonds are

 

a girl's best friend

thanks to marketers.

In 1947, ad copywriter,

Mary Francis Garrity

 

coined the famous slogan,

"A diamond is forever."

and the diamond ring

 

took off in popularity.

Whatever you do to say "I do"

the memories and keepsakes

 

can last a lifetime.

 

- So yeah, the final

 

thing on the list.

Most of the stuff been out there

it's been packed for

 

the last 16 years

since hurricane Katrina.

- Oh, you were there?

- Oh, yes, my birthday weekend.

We were having a birthday party

until we got jumped in the

 

car with 1.5 million people

and drove away from New Orleans,

in what, walls of water?

- Man, I can't imagine.

 

Coach, you're pretty Zen, man.

You're pretty chill.

I'm curious, hearing

 

these stories,

what does it make you

 

think, make you feel?

- Thankful that it

 

wasn't any worse.

 

Being caught on a

 

bridge, sun shining,

 

and within the next 45

 

minutes it's pitch dark.

- Still on the bridge.

- Still on the bridge.

Bumper to bumper.

- The water was-

 

- We were bumper to bumper.

- We could not see

 

anything around us.

We were just kind of in the car

just waiting to

 

see what happens.

- That was really emotional

to think that like, they

 

just took what they could

and they left and they hoped

 

they'd get out of there.

And that really puts

 

a lot in perspective.

- Ironically, we were

 

unpacking our house

'cause we had just moved in

 

it when we had evacuated.

- So it was all packed up.

- So it was still in the garage

 

packed up for the most part

and all over the house.

So literally things that

 

are out there packed,

they've been packed since 2005.

- Well, I was worried

we'd have nothing to talk

 

about other than basketball.

 

Clearly, that's not the case.

We've got a lot to talk about.

 

I've got my marching orders.

This is...

 

I'm excited to get in there.

There's some real actual

 

history in your garage.

 

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- [Cheryl] All

 

right, where is he?

He's hiding.

- Yeah, there he is.

 

- There he is.

- What's up guys.

- [Avi] How's it going?

 

- [Mike] Hi, Matt.

- [Jaime] Hey.

- Welcome to Columbus.

- [Avi] Thanks.

 

- [Jaime] This is beautiful.

- Ohio, Ohio.

- Beautiful home.

Great family.

We have a lot of

 

work to do this week.

- What else is new?

- Did Gabe send to

 

you the research?

- Yup.

- Jim and Cheryl Cleamons.

Amazing family.

You know, was an NBA

 

coach for many years.

They've moved over 10

 

times over 20 years.

- [Mike] Wow.

 

- That's a lot of moves.

- [Matt] Yeah.

 

- That's overwhelming.

- That's why we're here-

 

- Yeah.

- all right.

 

- It's interesting

to be on this side

 

of it, you know.

Like, usually we're in a house

 

to help somebody move out,

but this time they moved in

and we're still

 

trying to help them

kind of figure out

 

where things go.

- They need to settle.

- Yeah.

 

- Yeah.

And they've just

 

never been able to,

because they've always

 

been moving to the next job

and they're just stuck.

It's really weighing them down.

I mean, their whole

 

life is on hold.

- Yeah.

The task of unpacking

 

is very daunting.

Especially when you have boxes

that you haven't looked

 

at in 15 or 20 years.

So I can understand why

 

Cheryl and Jim are hesitant

to really start the

 

unpacking process.

- Legacy List is wedding brooms.

- Wedding brooms.

 

- Wedding brooms.

- The original wedding rooms.

Cheryl was a professional

 

dancer in the NBA

with the Chicago Bulls,

and then now, this daughter,

 

she just became a dancer

for the Washington Wizards.

- What?

 

- Yeah,

and so now we've got to find

 

her little baby dance shoes

which is pretty cool.

Cheryl's grandma was

 

a quilter in Alabama.

- Oh, wow.

- Just amazing,

 

beautiful quilts.

We've got to find those.

We've got a whole bunch

 

of stuff from Katrina.

So we just want to

 

put that to the side

so the family can

 

really go through that.

That's going to be

 

really important

to go through those boxes.

And then we've got a ton

 

of sports memorabilia.

And when I say a

 

ton, I mean a ton.

- As I started to learn

 

about Jim and his career,

I was so excited because

 

I was a huge Bulls fan,

huge Lakers fan

and I could not wait to see

 

what kind of memorabilia he had.

- Just remember when you

 

find a pair of shoes,

they don't necessarily just

 

go right into the donation.

(laughing)

- It could be Michael Jordan's.

- It could be Kobe's

 

or it could be Shaq's.

I think you'll know if

 

you find Shaq's shoes.

- Yeah.

 

- Yeah.

(crosstalk)

- Anything they can donate

 

to make someone's life better

they would like to do that.

- Cool.

- So re-homing is the

 

word we're gonna use here?

Donating.

We're not really looking

 

at sell as an option.

So you and I will start

 

picking out here this morning

and then I need you to

 

bring the full team in.

And I mean, we really need

 

to be able to pull a car

into that garage.

- Are you going to show

 

us what's behind the door?

- [Matt] Do you want to see it?

- [Jaime] I do want to see it.

- [Mike] Rip the bandaid off.

- [Matt] Okay, here we go.

- [Jaime] Oh, yeah,

 

you weren't lying.

- [Matt] No, it's a lot.

- [Jaime] You we're not lying.

Oh, my goodness.

- When I looked at it,

it looked like it was

 

just a two car garage.

I didn't realize how

 

far back it went.

- All right, we'll

 

see you in a bit.

- All, right we will see you.

 

- Good luck.

 

(upbeat cheerful music)

- Furniture.

A lot of furniture on the side.

(upbeat cheerful music)

 

- When you walk into

 

the living room,

you expect it to be a

 

room you can live in.

In this case, not so much.

- It honestly looked like the

 

moving truck had just left.

 

- One, two, three.

 

Let's just go against

 

the side of the house.

- Okay.

- This is great.

- Oh, my God.

 

Keeping you back out here.

 

- Avi and I found a ton of

 

stuff in the family room.

We found boxes full of

 

old board games, puzzles,

a box of crayons that

 

belong to their daughters

when they were little

that still smelled

 

like crayons smell.

Does that not bring

 

back your childhood?

- God, I'm at my desk in

 

first grade right now.

 

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- Hey Mike, come

 

here real quick.

I need help with this.

- All right.

- Just pull on the outside.

 

- I think I found

 

some cool stuff.

Whoa.

Yep, I did.

Pretty quickly,

Mike and I find incredible

 

basketball history.

Look at all these balls.

 

- Oh my God.

What is that?

- It's Mr Cleamons'.

- 1993.

- Oh, no way.

- This is the 1993

 

Chicago Bulls.

To sit there and hold a ball

 

from the NBA Championship game

signed by all these

 

amazing players.

That was a really special thing.

Michael Jordan there.

 

- Oh, my gosh.

Look where he signed it.

- Of course.

(Matt laughs)

Wow, man, this is crazy.

- It should be in

 

a museum somewhere,

but it is in this garage.

- What team is that?

That would be '91.

 

- This is Bill Kurt, right.

- '91 World Champion.

- Will Perdue.

- I've never found

 

anything like this.

- Yeah.

 

- Thing is insane.

- If I had one of these, I

 

would build a shrine for it.

- I mean, and I get it.

I guess once you, you

 

know, have this many,

you get like-

- A little jaded.

- Yeah, it's not as big a deal

when you got, you

 

know, 10 of them.

(upbeat music)

- [Male Voice] Basketball.

It's a sport played

 

around the world,

but its roots are

 

uniquely American.

 

It all begins in Springfield,

 

Massachusetts in 1891.

A YMCA instructor by the

 

name of James Naismith

wants to keep bored

 

students distracted

while they're stuck indoors

 

throughout a harsh winter.

His solution, peach baskets.

He nails two on wooden poles

and challenges students to

 

throw the ball into a basket.

The first game is chaos.

Players tackle each other and

 

only a single basket is made.

Naismith realizes he has

 

to set some ground rules.

The most important, no

 

running with the ball.

Naismith writes up the

 

first official rule book

and the game of

 

basketball takes off.

It's a big hit with colleges

and in 1946, a

 

professional league,

the Basketball Association

 

of America is formed.

The league is a success, but

 

it takes another four years

before the first

 

African-American player,

Chuck Cooper is drafted.

The college game takes even

 

longer to accept black players.

The watershed moment

 

comes on March 19th, 1966.

That's the night an

 

all-black starting five

from Texas Western College

defeats the powerful and

 

all-white team from Kentucky

for the National Championship.

 

Colleges across the country

slowly began offering

 

scholarships to players

based on talent, not skin color.

For over 50 years,

the popularity of both

 

college and pro basketball

has been a slam dunk.

Thanks to television rights

 

and superstar players

basketball is now a

 

billion dollar business

that spans the globe.

Basketball has come a long

 

way since that first game

and its future looks

 

down right peachy.

(children chattering)

(upbeat rock music)

- I just don't want to...

- All right, I'll

 

go through these.

- Yeah, this is unbelievable.

I know that color.

- Oh, no.

I've got this.

- Take that.

 

- I think I know what this is.

- You know that's Lakers colors.

- Yeah.

He coached for them

 

and played for them.

 

- Oh, my gosh.

- Shaquille O'Neil, 34.

Look at the back.

Look on the number.

(Mike gasps)

Autographed by Shaquille O'Neil.

- Oh, my gosh.

That is crazy.

 

- Holy cow.

Shaq Diesel.

As a guy that grew up

 

watching basketball,

this is an incredible

 

garage to clean out,

but we have to

 

remember, for Cheryl,

this is just her husband's junk

and she's been hauling

 

it around for 25 years

and she just wants it gone.

(upbeat cheerful music ends)

(upbeat cheerful music)

 

- One of the things we found

as we were looking

 

through the boxes

was one of the

 

Legacy List items.

It was the quilt.

Quilts?

- Some of them.

It was actually in a box

 

with some other baby blankets

that belong to their daughters.

 

Look at that.

 

- [Avi] Oh, yeah.

- I think when we have

 

these family heirlooms

that were actually handmade

 

by generations past,

it adds another layer

 

of sentimental value

and that's why I think this

 

quilt is important to Cheryl.

- This is awesome find here.

 

We're looking forward to

 

sharing it with Cheryl.

 

(upbeat music)

- Look at this.

Michael Jordan autograph.

 

- '92.

 

- '92.

 

- Wow.

- 99 out of a hundred times

I tell everybody

 

recycle the magazines.

 

Not this stack, man.

 

- No.

- Look at this.

Dude, what.

 

This is insane.

It's amazing.

All the collectibles

 

have skyrocketed,

especially sports memorabilia,

 

and it was really fascinating

to see how much history

 

was in that garage.

 

(upbeat music)

- All right, I mean we...

 

- The tri...

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

The triangle offense.

- Yeah.

I mean, this is insane, dude.

This is coach's notes.

- Oh.

- Coach's notes from

 

those Bulls teams.

He's taking these at practices

 

and developing plays.

- That's awesome.

One of the really key factors

of collecting is the provenance

and being able to trace

 

the history of the items.

There is no question

 

he was right there

and he was getting

 

these things signed

from the players

 

and coaches himself.

- I guess this would be

 

handed out to the players

to tell how long ago it was.

Hand them handouts.

It's like, go memorize this.

All right, okay, look.

I mean, we're not even

 

putting a dent in this room

and we're all ready

 

have found more work

than you could ever have.

Let's call Jaime

 

and Avi in here.

- All right.

- Got to get everybody in here.

Kind of an all hands on

 

deck to go through all this.

- Okay.

(upbeat music ends)

 

(upbeat music starts)

 

- Me and my team,

 

we're going to start

and we're going

 

to need you or Jim

to really help us make

 

some of these decisions.

- I'm confident

 

80% Of the furniture that's

 

in here could be donated.

- Okay.

As soon as I met Cheryl,

I knew she was a

 

take-charge kind of woman.

She was going to be able

 

to make the decisions

that we needed to be made in

 

a really efficient manner.

 

- Where are we starting?

- Well, I mean, you know,

we've got this

 

furniture right here.

I think it's like a

 

Murphy bed or something.

- It is.

It's a Murphy bed and it is

 

usable and it's a donation.

- All right.

- So we need to find it a home.

- [Mike] Boom.

 

- [Cheryl] Okay, excellent.

- Done.

- The tall one behind you.

 

- All right.

 

- Boom.

- Boom.

 

- I like this process.

I'm all in, let's go.

- I see there's a lot of clothes

and I'm sure there's a lot

 

more back here somewhere.

Is there anywhere in particular

we should look at

 

donating them to?

- I always thought

that when people got

 

out of incarceration

they got something,

but they are

 

released with nothing

and they're put

 

in work programs.

And so I thought it'd be a good

 

place to maybe find a place

that could help them with

 

some of these clothes.

And then I know

that the Urban League of

 

Columbus has My Brother's Closet

and I know

that a few of these clothes

 

could work well there.

I think that would

 

be helpful for them.

- All right, that's great.

There's some big

 

pieces of furniture.

Like this is big.

- Yeah, there's something

 

bigger back there.

Maybe two or three things

 

that are bigger back here.

- All right, well, the good news

is with big pieces of furniture

they create big pockets

 

of space when they leave.

- That's awesome.

- So we get a few

 

of those things out

we're well on our way to

 

fitting a car in here.

- That's cool.

 

- All right.

Thanks, Cheryl.

- I can do that.

(upbeat music)

 

- I've moved my

 

kids and it's a lot.

It's a lot to put on a

 

family to pick them up

and move them one time and

 

they've done it 10 plus times.

I mean, these girls are amazing

to know they've had to pack up

and move over and

 

over and over again.

 

- How many times have we moved?

- I honestly can't say.

 

I don't know how many

 

times we've moved.

Mostly when we were younger

and then it stopped once

 

we got into high school.

- I remember moving back

 

and forth to New Orleans

and California.

- A big advantage of that for

 

me is that we're very close.

Like we're very good friends.

And I know a lot of people

 

have sibling rivalries

and stuff like that,

but I go to Rose all

 

the time for everything.

She's basically my best friend.

So moving a lot

 

created a bond with us

because I know what

 

she's going through,

she knows what

 

I'm going through.

 

- This family had a unique bond.

They've moved across the

 

country and back again,

but they've always

 

done it together.

And now they're here

 

to really put roots

in what's going to

 

be their family home.

 

- We're very happy

 

that you're here

to help us get rid of stuff

and it won't be hard for

 

anyone except for my dad.

- Yes.

 

- Yes.

(both laughing)

My mom is very much like

 

if we're not using it,

if we haven't thought about

 

it, and we see it, it's out.

We clearly don't need

 

it at this point.

And I totally agree,

 

but my dad, I think

he feels kind of more

 

deeply connected to items

than the rest of us do.

 

He's definitely

 

going to be the one

to try and hold on

 

to as much as he can.

 

- So we have some clothes to

 

go through, it looks like.

- Okay.

Yes, we do.

 

- Yes, we do.

And you know,

I tell people that it's

 

okay to keep things

that are sentimental,

but we do have to make

 

some tough decisions-

- We will.

- and we've identified some

 

great local organizations

that we are going

 

to donate things to.

So I'll let pick out something

and tell me why you're

 

ready to get rid of it.

- Okay, those.

And if I got one of those

 

I probably got five.

- Okay, so we can

 

let this one go.

- We can let that one go.

- Okay, I'll hold on to the

 

ones we're going to donate.

Now, I see some

 

suits over here too.

Are these suits that you

 

would wear for games?

I mean, I always notice.

I may not be the biggest

 

sports aficionado,

but I do notice that the

 

coaches are always dressed.

- I'm not employed right now

so I don't have

 

to worry about it.

- No.

Jim was ultimately ready to

 

let go of a lot of these items,

 

but not before he told the

 

story of what each one meant.

- This team did

 

some special stuff

and because they invite

 

us back to give us these

 

in commemoration of

 

the year that we had

that year in that team,

 

I got to keep this.

- Absolutely.

Yeah, that's definitely a keep.

- Yeah, that's a

 

keeper right there.

- All right, onto the next rack.

I see some jackets over there.

- Well, this used to be

 

one of my favorite jackets.

This was an expensive suit.

I remember buying this suit.

(laughing)

Okay.

- Now, that's why a lot

 

of people keep things

instead of donating

 

them when they should,

because of what

 

they paid for them.

It's really about, are

 

you going to use it?

Go with your gut.

- Go with my gut?

Well, once again, we're

 

doing someone a solid.

- We're donating them

 

to the community.

They're absolutely

 

going to be used.

 

- And they're going

 

to want to look good.

And I think that

 

we should go ahead

and make sure that

 

they look good.

Dress for success.

- Dress for success.

That's awesome.

 

(upbeat music)

- I mean, here we are.

More than 15 years after Katrina

and some of the things

 

that they pack then

are still in boxes.

I bet this is going to be a

 

really emotional experience

to go through these boxes.

- What is definitely trash?

- Almost everything

 

Christmasy is trash.

- Okay, I'm going to get

 

all the Christmas together.

- If you put it all together...

- And then I'm gong to let

 

you make that decision.

- Just a little bit, yeah.

- I'm just not feeling

like I need to make

 

any decisions for you.

I want to set it up so

 

you can make them quickly.

- Yeah, that's

 

what I would love.

- When you've been waiting

to have your garage

 

cleaned this long,

 

it's scary when it

 

actually happens.

- I'm sorry, I'm about to cry.

I don't want to cry.

- No, you don't need to cry.

It's all right.

Thank you for trusting us.

I know this is hard.

As we start to

 

unpack these boxes,

we have to be very careful.

We have to go at the right pace

and we have to keep

 

Cheryl in charge

or otherwise it's just

 

too much emotion happening

at the same time.

- I think we'll get all

 

the sports together,

all the holiday together,

 

all the pictures,

put those together,

and then you can start to make

 

your decisions pretty quick.

Okay.

 

You know, we've got a

 

lot of basketball history

in this house, but we also

 

have a lot of US history.

I mean, Katrina is

 

a massive event.

One of the biggest

 

meteorological events

in our nation's history.

(upbeat ominous music)

- Hurricanes, they're

 

a force of nature,

capable of destroying

 

everything in their path.

When warm air rises,

 

surrounding air rushes in

to replace it.

Storm clouds are formed and

 

thanks to the Earth's rotation,

begin to spin like

 

giant atmospheric tops.

When the winds reach

 

sustained speeds

of at least 74 miles per hour,

 

they're called a hurricane.

 

As these super storms approach

 

land, they're given names.

The tradition of naming storms

started with meteorologist

 

Clement Wragge

in the late 19th century.

How did he pick the names?

 

(thunder claps)

Good old fashion grudges.

He named weather events after

 

politicians he disliked.

Starting in 1953

the National Hurricane Center

 

began naming Atlantic storms.

Originally, they were

 

only named after women,

but that changed in 1979

when activist Roxcy

 

Bolton pointed out

that women shouldn't

 

take all the blame

for natural disasters.

The deadliest hurricane in US

 

history took place in 1900.

That's when the city

 

of Galveston, Texas

was hit by a hurricane

 

packing winds

of over 140 miles per hour.

Over 10,000 people

 

lost their lives

and another 10,000

 

were left homeless.

 

And then there was

 

Hurricane Katrina.

 

On August 29th, 2005,

 

Hurricane Katrina made landfall

 

near New Orleans with winds

 

up to 170 miles per hour.

 

Levees catastrophically failed

 

and 80% of the city flooded.

 

Many were unable to evacuate

and thousands were

 

forced to flee the city.

All in all over 1 million

 

Gulf Coast residents

fled their homes.

 

Still, many residents returned

 

to rebuild their communities.

 

Neighbors delivered groceries.

Volunteers provided

 

free medical care.

In times of

 

unprecedented tragedy,

people demonstrate

 

extraordinary generosity.

It seems the one thing a

 

hurricane can't destroy

is the human spirit.

 

(upbeat music)

 

- We were lucky enough

that Jim was ready to

 

donate some of these suits

and the Urban League was

 

going to be the beneficiary.

 

- [Jaime] You got it?

- Yeah.

 

(indistinct)

- There we go.

Hello.

- Hey, how are you today?

 

- How are you?

I'm Jaime, nice to meet you.

- Nice to see you.

 

- I'm Avi.

Nice to meet you.

- Nice to see you too.

Avi, I love that name.

 

- [Avi] Thank you.

- Well, thank you

 

for coming over today

to learn more about

 

My Brother's Closet.

- Absolutely.

Would love to hear a

 

little bit more about it.

What you all do?

- Sure.

Probably about eight years ago,

our workforce development

 

program manager

was saying that I'm

 

trying to get people,

when they were coming in to

 

do their mock interviews,

we're trying to get

 

them ready for work.

And he said, but we really

 

want to get them ready,

not just with the verbal

 

cues and communications,

but how do we help people to

 

start looking more appropriate?

So he asked if it was okay

 

if I went to a local cleaners

and picked up the

 

shirts that, you know,

people abandon their

 

clothes for a long time.

And then one day we

 

had one of our clients.

We were trying to get him

 

ready for the next day

for his interview and we said

 

you need to put on your tie

and tuck your shirt in.

 

And he was really resistant.

He finally tucked his shirt in

and his belt was a coat hanger.

 

And that's what

 

he had to lift up.

And so from there that just

 

inspired the program manager

at the time, and myself, and

 

said we've got to make sure

we get people suited and booted

because it really plays

 

into their psyche.

- Absolutely.

- For them to feel good about

 

going to a job interview...

- You look good, you play good.

- Exactly.

Absolutely.

- Do you want to take a

 

look at what we brought in

just to make sure

that it's, you know, up to

 

the standards of donation?

- Oh, sure, and you know,

especially because these

 

clothes are all ready, you know,

been laundered.

That's really important.

Oh gosh.

And these are also...

These sizes are tall men sizes

and that's really

 

important to us

because a lot of

 

times the tall men...

Oh, and there's even

 

new stuff in here too.

That's really impressive.

Yeah, these are tall men...

And a lot of times our big

 

and tall men get left out

because there's not a lot

 

of inventory for them.

So this is fantastic.

- Awesome.

Donating these

 

clothes was a win-win.

I got them out of the garage

and into the hands of someone

 

who really needed them.

- Columbus is very lucky

 

to have the Urban League

and your leadership

 

and this program.

- This makes a difference

 

when you're trying

to get people out of

 

generational poverty.

So we appreciate the

 

county commissioners

and a lot of the corporate

 

community and folks who just...

Even we have some old board

 

members who came in last week.

I got some suits, right.

I'm retired now.

Let me get rid of these suits

and put them in the right place.

- Yeah.

 

- That's great.

- That's amazing.

 

(upbeat music)

- We're going through the garage

and there are still Legacy

 

List items to be found.

We weren't having much

 

luck in the house.

So with the clock winding

 

down, we pulled in everybody.

The whole family was there.

We were determined

 

to get this done.

(paper rustling)

 

- That is awesome.

- The garage was a

 

really big emotional job

and thank goodness Mike

 

and his team were there

because they really were

 

able to focus in with Cheryl

and get a lot done

 

in the garage.

 

(upbeat music)

You can read a line about coach

 

Cleamons as a professional,

but I wanted to get to know

 

a little more about him

as a person.

 

I was really lucky to meet

 

with his old college teammate,

JT at St. John arena, where

 

they played basketball.

St. John arena.

So it's been a few years

 

since you've been here.

- Over half of my life.

What you mean it's

 

been a few years?

- More than half of your life.

- Yes, indeed.

50 something years.

- Obviously we're not

 

playing ball here anymore.

They've got teams practicing.

- Right, yeah.

- I've been spending the

 

last couple of days with Jim

and he's quiet.

He's humble.

And then you get these pockets

 

of just like intensity.

- Oh, he's smart.

- Super smart.

 

- Smart.

- When we were going

 

through his garage

we found a lot of his

 

practice notes from the NBA.

And this dude cares

 

more about practice

than he does about the game.

 

- Oh, yeah.

Cleamon was the same.

He practiced hard,

 

he played hard.

I think that's what got

 

the respect of the guys

'cause you didn't settle down.

When Clem was on

 

your defense wide,

you had to be ready.

You had to be ready.

That's how he'd always been.

'Cause it seemed like

 

he always had a plan.

- We're finding notes on like,

 

you know, Pippen, Jordan.

I mean some of the

 

best players ever,

and he's writing notes

 

on how to talk to them.

Not necessarily

 

what the play is.

- I think early on,

he was always grooming

 

us how to be a coach.

That's what coaches used to do.

Clem was a general on the floor.

- He was the boss.

 

- He was general on the floor.

No question about it.

He knew everybody, where

 

it's going, everything.

So this is during the game.

Smart.

He just took care of business.

That's what he did.

 

- That's awesome.

Well, everything you're

 

saying adds up to the guy

we're talking about.

- Oh, yeah.

- It was really cool to

 

walk in the St John Arena

and see Jim's picture

 

up on the wall

with all these

 

accolades and awards.

This is a show about legacy

and rarely do I meet

 

a living legacy.

 

(upbeat music ends)

 

(slow music)

 

All right.

We are here a few days

 

later, very long days.

 

You all have moved so much.

I think packing is a lot

 

easier than unpacking,

 

but we came here to help

 

you clean out the garage

to kind of get that jumpstart.

And I'm happy to say

 

we achieved that.

 

- I realized early on

 

that we needed help.

 

The magnitude of what you

 

guys have done to help us,

all the work that you

 

and your crew has done

has been just remarkable.

So we're very appreciative.

- We appreciate you

 

guys letting us in here.

Let's not look over the fact

I got to hold 10

 

championship rings this week.

 

For me, that's really cool.

 

I like that I don't

 

see, you know...

Your whole life's

 

not about that.

You know, you were

 

gone, how many years?

It's decades, right?

- Yep.

- Two decades.

- You've been gone

 

20 years working

and you work those 20

 

years to retire together.

 

You just keep coming

 

up as the glue, right.

So I wrote a couple

 

of labels down

and I forgot to list here.

- Okay.

 

- I've got wife.

I've got mom.

 

I got videographer.

I've got cook, homeworker,

 

and of course, we got dancer.

- Yeah.

 

- [Matt] I love this picture.

 

- [Cheryl] Do you?

- [Matt] Fierce.

 

- [Cheryl] Yeah?

- You're going at it.

- Yeah, I haven't

 

seen that in a while.

- What are you thinking?

- Well, he's right there

 

on the sideline watching.

(laughing)

- I saw Cheryl,

my first night as assistant

 

coach for the Chicago Bulls.

I'm there for a job too.

And so she just my eye,

 

but I'm there to work

and she's doing her

 

job and that was it.

 

- [Matt] I love it.

 

- All right, you'd asked me

to find your

 

grandmother's quilt.

- Yes.

- We found a quilt, but

 

it's a well-used quilt.

- Yes, it is.

- It's homemade.

- Do you remember this quilt?

- I do.

 

This would be my

 

biological father's mother.

 

I think she stitched

 

every article of

 

clothing that she had.

She and her sister,

 

they would quilt

and they would cut

 

little patterns

and save little pieces

 

of fabrics from curtains

or, you know, just scraps

 

that they would find

and you know, just

 

create pieces of love.

 

- This was a simple

 

item, but I love it

because you grab it

 

and you can hug it

 

and you can think

 

of your family.

 

All right, the next item

 

you guys asked us to find

 

was the brooms.

 

- Look at you.

 

I explained to you a

 

little bit of the history

about what jumping

 

the broom means.

So when Jim and I

 

wed we were older.

Late bloomers that we are.

We were the only

 

two that stood up.

We didn't have a best

 

man or a maid of honor

or matron of honor.

So the two people that would

 

have been those surprised us

with the brooms.

- Oh, that's cool.

- So yes.

- So one represents...

- The gentleman that would

 

have been Jim's best man

and the other one

 

is from the woman

that would have been

 

my matron of honor.

Somewhere there's a picture

 

of us jumping in mid air.

- Yeah.

Not only did we find

 

the wedding brooms,

but we also found

 

the wedding picture

after a bunch of searching.

It was very well packed.

 

Almost hidden.

 

We didn't find it until a

 

few minutes ago honestly.

(all laughing)

- I believe it.

- I loved that your wedding

 

brooms were a part of your list.

Where will these

 

go in this house?

- Well, probably hang

 

them over the entries.

Yeah, because they're

 

there to bring good fortune

and good energy and

 

spirit into the home.

- I like it.

And at the end of

 

the day is a family.

- And that's a very

 

special picture.

- Yeah, that's my dad's

 

first visit to Disneyland.

That's one of my favorite

 

family pictures of us all.

- [Cheryl] It was a good day.

- It was a really good day.

 

- Well, let's go over

 

what we didn't find.

We didn't find a lot

 

of things, actually.

 

We didn't find everything

 

and that makes sense

because this family has

 

moved over 10 times.

Lots of times stuff

 

gets lost in a move.

Didn't find the dance shoes.

 

I found some of your plays.

I didn't find, I think,

 

full playbooks books,

but I did find some books

They had your notes in them

 

and I didn't find your pendant.

 

Don't mean they're

 

not out there.

- That's true.

- We did find something today

 

that we didn't expect to find.

 

- Know what this is?

- Do not.

- All right.

- I think I do.

- You know what this is?

- Yeah.

- This is basically

 

like a keepsake box

of your older sister.

- Yeah.

- What do you remember about it?

- This is like during

 

the era of the playhouse

and everything.

So we are going through

 

inspirational quotes

and things that we thought

 

would make us smile

 

and make us imagine and dream.

I don't know what

 

she put in it per se,

but I do remember seeing

 

the box always in her room.

- You've got quotes

from arguably one of

 

the best movies ever.

"Coming to America".

- We were young watching that.

- And Ralph Waldo Emerson.

 

I'll let you read one.

 

- "Happiness is a perfume

 

you cannot pour on others

without getting a few

 

drops on yourself."

- Your children are putting

 

positive in front of them,

setting goals and it's so cool

to see how your daughters

 

put that into their lives.

I mean, it's a

 

show about legacy.

What do you think

 

your legacy really is?

Is it rings?

- No, no.

- What is it?

- We have, you know, our quilt.

It represents love and security.

 

Okay, we have brooms

 

that represent good vibes

 

and you know, clean house.

 

- Well, we donated an enormous

 

amount of clothes today.

- We donated an

 

enormous amount, yes.

- People will be wearing those

 

suits tomorrow, all right.

And they're going to

 

get jobs interviews.

They're going to get

 

their life back on track.

 

- You know, we're so

 

fortunate and really blessed

that between Imani and Rose,

 

they're the next generation

 

and hopefully what

 

we pass on to them,

they'll be able to pass

 

on to their families.

 

- This was an item we did find.

 

You know what this is?

- Yes, I think so.

- This is the scrapbook

 

that you asked us to find.

 

It has been weathered.

You were not kidding.

This is an extensive book.

It is amazing that somebody

that was not family

 

did this for you.

For him, the thing

 

that he liked the most

was that scrapbook.

I think it was a personal

 

gift and it was something

that someone worked

 

really hard to make.

And you can really see

 

the emotion in Jim's eyes.

He was really just happy.

 

You have some amazing things up.

You've got unlimited

 

autographs of amazing athletes.

But to you, they're friends.

You got some game balls that

 

are absolutely incredible

that people have

 

only read about.

 

I mean, I was looking

 

at some game balls

and then found a Shaq Jersey.

It's a little big and it's

 

autographed, you know.

An autographed Shaq jersey.

All right, you're just

 

like, yeah, whatever.

- Yeah.

When you're like eight

and you walk up

 

and meet Pau Gasol

and you're like,

 

hi, you're tall.

That's all you get.

- I found a picture

 

of your sister,

or you, being held

 

by Phil Jackson.

- That was my sister.

I was like, what.

That's Phil Jackson.

- I mean we found

 

so many cool things.

I found this.

 

This is your...

We're tiny back here.

This is our last item, okay.

This was not on your list.

This was on my Legacy List.

- Okay.

 

I love this.

This is a Lakers.

- A cookout.

They were putting together

 

a cookbook or something.

- I think he's got to tell us.

- Oh, okay.

 

Just hold on.

- I collect very

 

random cookbooks.

- Do you really?

 

- I do.

- With my career I have

 

a few random collections.

I love flat pennies

 

and weird cookbooks.

And I actually had a

 

cookbook for the LA Lakers

that Jim and Cheryl were in.

- You have that...

You did not get that

 

out of my kitchen?

- No, this is mine.

 

(Cheryl laughs)

- [Cheryl] What are the odds?

- Swear to God.

This is mine that I

 

brought from home.

 

- Oh, yeah.

- And there and behold.

- There you are.

- You're in there too.

- [Cheryl] I forgot about that.

- There you are.

Y'all are in a random

 

cook book I've got.

- A random cook

 

book that you have.

(laughing)

- As silly as this is,

 

it wraps it up for me.

 

Yeah, you've had a crazy career

 

and you have

 

supported all of this.

Raised your children.

You guys somehow made it work,

 

but you're still just a family.

- And that's a pretty

 

representative picture of...

- Yeah.

 

- Yeah.

- Yeah.

 

- Yeah.

 

- A lot of people

 

are going through

what y'all going

 

through right now.

Downsizing, but

 

more importantly,

 

someone's been on the

 

road for a long time

and now someone's coming home.

What kind of advice can

 

you give to families

that are going through it?

- The downsizing,

 

do it together.

I'd say that.

 

When that person comes

 

home for retiring,

that that's a good

 

activity to do together.

 

I think your team, they

 

have the best idea.

Ground rules.

Not just for downsizing,

but ground rules for there's

 

somebody in the house

all day long when you've

 

been the stay-at-home mom

and you know, this

 

has been your job.

And now all of a sudden

there's a colleague in

 

your kitchen all the time.

You know, ground rules

and you just establish

 

the ground rules.

And you know, for us, I think

 

what you said, we communicate.

 

- And you can take your time.

It took 20 years to

 

accumulate all this stuff.

And I could go

 

through it in a week.

That's not realistic, you know.

And not to borrow

 

from sports theme,

but y'all didn't

 

build championship

 

teams in one season.

 

It takes time and y'all are

 

actually doing a really good job

 

compared to a lot of my clients.

- We're grateful

 

that you helped us.

- But for the first time ever,

you don't have to worry

 

about packing back up.

You can finally unpack.

 

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