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- [Male Voice] Coming up on 
Legacy List with Matt Paxton.

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The team is in Columbus, 
Ohio to help an NBA legend

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and his wife settle 
into their forever home.

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Over the years, the family 
has moved several times

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and many of their belongings 
are still in boxes.

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- [Cheryl] Wall-to-wall, 
floor-to-ceiling, front-to-back.

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- [Matt] That includes 
a treasure trove

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of championship collectibles.

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- Autographed by 
Shaquille O'Neil.

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- [Mike] Oh my gosh.

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- [Matt] I'm Matt Paxton.

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Let's do it, man.

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My team of specialists, 
Jaime, Mike and Avi

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help me help people 
downsize their homes

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and settle estates.

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As the largest population 
of baby boomers

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in American history 
transition towards retirement,

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they and their families 
face the overwhelming task

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of emptying their homes to move.

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We help them sift through 
a lifetime of possessions-

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- Bingo.

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- [Matt] heirlooms 
and collectibles...

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We have a literally 
found a piece of history.

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To help them find the 
missing family treasures

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that mean the most to them.

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- Oh, my goodness. 
- [Matt] Jackie Robinson.

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And along the way,

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they'll discover that the most 
important museum in the world

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may be in their 
family's basement.

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- Oh. 
- Oh.

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- I've never seen that.

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That is cool looking.

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- From attics to cellars, 
closets to cupboards,

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we uncover the memories 
they want to preserve.

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This is living history.

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This is what we're here to find.

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Let's go. 
- Let's go.

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- [Matt] And discover 
the compelling, personal,

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and often historical stories

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spanning generations that 
are their family's legacy.

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(upbeat music stops) 
(birds chirping)

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- [Female Voice] 
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(upbeat cheerful music starts)

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- Today I'm in Columbus, Ohio, 
capital of the Buckeye state.

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I'm here to meet Jim 
and Cheryl Cleamons.

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They've been moving for 20 
years because of Jim's job,

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and now that they're retired,

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they need help settling 
into their forever home

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because they're tired 
of living out of boxes.

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(upbeat cheerful music)

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(soft knocking)

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Hello, hello. 
- Hey.

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How are you.

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So good to meet you.

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- Good to finally 
meet you in person.

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- Yes, sir. 
- Coach, good to see you, man.

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- Nice to see you.

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- Thank you, thank you.

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This is awesome. 
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- Very cool.

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Tell me why we're here.

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Give me the whole story.

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- We're literally downsizing.

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We're kind of downsizing 
different than most people do.

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Instead of downsizing 
in actual house size

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we're taking multiple 
houses that we have here

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and downsizing them into one.

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- Everywhere you've lived you 
all have boxes in each place.

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- Oh, yeah.

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So we have boxes from 
New Orleans, from Dallas,

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from Chicago, from Los Angeles.

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Oh, my God.

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And there's Oklahoma, Milwaukee-

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- Everything. 
- and New York.

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So yeah.

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- So it's all now to come here.

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- All here in Ohio. 
- Okay.

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All right, and that's 
where we're retiring.

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- This is where we are.

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- Okay, are we retired or not?

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- This is where we are.

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I'm too young to retire. 
- Fair enough, okay.

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All right, all right.

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Okay, are you retired, 
or you're not?

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- I'm still active- 
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- and if the right job 
or opportunity came along

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I would certainly think about it

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because it's still in my blood.

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- Okay.

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Jim's career is amazing.

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As a player he played 
with Jerry West,

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Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor.

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He even won a NBA 
Championship as a rookie

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and then he went on to 
coach with Phil Jackson

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and some of the best.

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Kobe, Shaq and Jordan 
and Pippen with Chicago.

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You are a teacher educator. 
- [Jim] Yes.

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- [Matt] You were a player. 
- [Jim] Yes.

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- And then the world would 
label you a coach at one point.

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- Well, I don't mind 
what others say.

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I do.

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I would hope that the 
proof is in the pudding

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as to how well I do it and 
those that listened to me

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and understand what 
I'm trying to do

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is make our communities 
and our young people

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who want to aspire 
to be athletes, make 
them better people.

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- Okay.

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The proof is in the 
pudding with your story.

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You've won a few championships.

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- I've been fortunate enough 
to go to 12 NBA Championships

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and of the 12 I've been 
to our teams have won 10.

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- Okay, so nine as a teacher-

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- One as a player. 
- one as a player.

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- Kinda cool. 
- It is very cool.

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- [Cheryl] It is very cool. 
- [Matt] It is very cool.

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- [Cheryl] Yeah. 
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- All right, so this is 
where the real stuff is.

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- Yes.

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We're getting there. 
- All right.

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- [Cheryl] We're getting there.

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- [Matt] So walk 
me through this.

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How did we get like this?

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'Cause you're an ordered person.

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- I got stuck.

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- Okay, when?

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- I got stuck here.

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- What got y'all stuck?

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What do you think?

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- Time. 
- Sentiment.

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- Sentiment, okay.

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- I look at the boxes 
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who knows where they're from?

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Can be from 10 different cities.

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- [Cheryl] It could be.

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- Jim's got his first year 
off in a very long time

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and although I think 
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ready to go again, they finally 
got a pause in his career

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and they can unpack 
all their stuff.

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How much of this stuff 
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- Oh, 75.

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- There's a lot of emotions

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and the kids have 
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and we don't want to discard 
anything that they want.

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So we have been, not 
necessarily dysfunctional,

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but waiting to get together.

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- We've given them the 
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through the 
beginnings of college.

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Now, it's my turn to help them.

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- Okay.

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How many kids do y'all have?

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- We have two daughters.

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- Oh, you remembered.

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Okay, good.

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Just wanted to see 
if you remember.

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- Yeah. 
- All right,

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so we got all these 
boxes over here

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and then we've got all 
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but I know it doesn't add up.

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Where's the real volume?

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- Okay, you ready? 
- I'm ready.

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- All right, here we go.

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- [Matt] Show me this.

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- [Jim] You got 
your eyes closed?

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- [Cheryl] There's 
two doors, remember?

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- [Matt] All right.

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- So we're talking about 
wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling,

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front-to-back.

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- Okay, this is real. 
- It's just a little bit.

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It's real.

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- Crates, furniture.

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I mean, it's really 
two garages deep.

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It's doable.

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I mean, I've got a big 
team we'll bring in here.

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What's this space do 
when we're done with it?

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It'll be emptied.

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- It's a house.

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- A house for this car?

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- Yes. 
- All right, this is gorgeous.

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- My mom bought it from 
my brother in 1973.

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He learned how to drive on it.

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And then he taught my sister

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and then she learned 
how to drive on it.

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And then she taught 
me how to drive on it.

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It's not allowed to 
leave the family.

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- [Matt] All right. 
- [Jim] Not at this point.

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- [Matt] This is going 
to be a lot of work,

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but if we can empty this 
space, get it more organized,

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make enough space for this 
car, uncover a few items,

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will this be enough to 
get you guys started?

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- That'd be great to 
get to get me started.

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- So the only thing left 
to do is for us go inside.

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I'm want to sit down

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and I want to learn about 
everything on your Legacy List.

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- Okay.

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- Are you ready?

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- Let's do it. 
- Okay.

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- We're here to help you as 
opposed to kind of save you.

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A lot of families are lost.

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They don't know what to do.

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Think y'all just 
need help physically.

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It's a little different.

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So the stuff part 
is pretty easy.

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All right, we're going to 
organize the room behind me.

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Then we're going to spend 
majority of the time

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in the garage. 
- Yes.

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- That's the real, I think, 
holding everybody back, right.

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Normally, we have you 
guys just kind of go away

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and let us do our thing, but 
I think, one, I want you there

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just because you 
know all the answers

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and I just want to hear 
your stories to be honest.

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So I hope that you'll 
be there with us.

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It's a lot, but we can do it.

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All right, main reason 
we're here, Legacy List.

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- Okay. 
- And I am very excited

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to hear what's on your 
ultimate Legacy List.

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- Oh, well we do 
have a few items

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that are out there that 
we're kind of looking for.

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- Okay.

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- Quite frankly, I think 
I've got some sports jewelry

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out there.

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- Okay, walk me through 
the sports jewelry.

253
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What is that?

254
00:09:12,833 --> 00:09:14,600
- When they won a championship,

255
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,800
I worked really hard for 
it too so I got a gift.

256
00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,400
- So as a girlfriend, 
I got a necklace,

257
00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,200
and as a wife, I got 
a couple of rings too.

258
00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,700
- Okay, so the wives 
or the partners,

259
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they also get some type of...

260
00:09:26,633 --> 00:09:30,900
- They can get if their 
significant other-

261
00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:32,166
- Are as amazing as yours.

262
00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:33,900
- Yes, and they deem that.

263
00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:38,866
- So I have one pendant 
and I think three rings.

264
00:09:40,366 --> 00:09:42,800
- Okay, I've never seen any 
of these championship rings.

265
00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,300
I don't know what 
they would look like.

266
00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:47,733
If by any chance, would 
you have a ring to show me

267
00:09:47,733 --> 00:09:48,833
what it would look 
like or anything?

268
00:09:48,833 --> 00:09:49,833
- I have a couple.

269
00:09:49,833 --> 00:09:51,300
You wanna see them?

270
00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:52,666
- Yeah, I'd love to 
see at least one.

271
00:09:52,666 --> 00:09:54,133
Yeah.

272
00:09:54,133 --> 00:09:56,433
When I realized I was going 
to Jim Cleamons house,

273
00:09:56,433 --> 00:09:59,733
I got excited because I 
know he's got 10 NBA rings,

274
00:09:59,733 --> 00:10:00,966
but I was glad he 
knew where they were.

275
00:10:00,966 --> 00:10:02,966
So they weren't on 
the Legacy List.

276
00:10:02,966 --> 00:10:05,600
Man, this is...

277
00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,000
I mean, this is real history.

278
00:10:07,933 --> 00:10:08,766
- It's pretty cool, isn't it?

279
00:10:08,766 --> 00:10:10,266
- It's really cool.

280
00:10:10,266 --> 00:10:11,266
You have 10 rings.

281
00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:14,866
Do you ever just wear 
them out, like all 10?

282
00:10:14,866 --> 00:10:16,000
I can't see you do it.

283
00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:20,600
- As proud as I 
am of those rings,

284
00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,866
my favorite is not 
a championship ring.

285
00:10:24,866 --> 00:10:28,766
It's a ring that was given 
to us as team members

286
00:10:28,766 --> 00:10:32,766
in commemorance of 
winning 33 games in a row.

287
00:10:32,766 --> 00:10:33,900
- [Cheryl] It's 
still the record too.

288
00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:35,833
- Yeah, it's still the record.

289
00:10:35,833 --> 00:10:37,533
Most wins in a row.

290
00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:38,800
And I was kind of just trying

291
00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,100
to act like I'd 
been there before

292
00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:41,633
and not show that I 
was really excited,

293
00:10:41,633 --> 00:10:45,000
but it was fascinating to 
actually hold these things.

294
00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,400
So what else do we have?

295
00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,933
- He still has the 
training and practice books

296
00:10:48,933 --> 00:10:51,000
from during his time

297
00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,300
and they should be in 
a box in the garage

298
00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:54,266
and that's on the list.

299
00:10:54,266 --> 00:10:55,533
- That's on the Legacy List?

300
00:10:55,533 --> 00:10:56,800
- That's on the 
list to look for.

301
00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,866
- Each day we have 
a practice plan.

302
00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:03,800
It's almost like a teacher's.

303
00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,533
Which were accomplished today?

304
00:11:05,533 --> 00:11:08,966
- So the equation for 
success is in these books.

305
00:11:08,966 --> 00:11:10,500
Okay.

306
00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:12,233
- We've got like 
little pink shoes.

307
00:11:12,233 --> 00:11:14,766
Little girl's dance shoes

308
00:11:14,766 --> 00:11:17,900
that our little dancer, 
our daughter, Imani.

309
00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:21,600
- And she's now...

310
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,533
- Wizards dancer.

311
00:11:22,533 --> 00:11:24,966
- She's now a Wizards dancer.

312
00:11:24,966 --> 00:11:26,166
And you started off as a dancer.

313
00:11:26,166 --> 00:11:27,866
- I danced, yes.

314
00:11:27,866 --> 00:11:29,000
I'm a World Champion 
Cheerleader.

315
00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,533
- There it is.

316
00:11:30,533 --> 00:11:33,166
(Cheryl laughs)

317
00:11:34,433 --> 00:11:35,933
- [Matt] All right, 
what else we have?

318
00:11:35,933 --> 00:11:39,600
- So he's got some scrapbooks 
that were created for them.

319
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,833
- Yeah, walk me through that.

320
00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:43,100
You said someone 
gave you as a gift.

321
00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:45,233
- Yeah, we had a young man

322
00:11:45,233 --> 00:11:48,200
who worked in the sports 
information department.

323
00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,600
Unbeknownst to me he'd 
been keeping a scrapbook

324
00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,533
of basically my 
entire college career

325
00:11:55,533 --> 00:11:57,733
and they were in 
binders like this.

326
00:11:57,733 --> 00:11:59,233
- Wow.

327
00:11:59,233 --> 00:12:03,500
- But he taken the time to 
put this together for me

328
00:12:04,933 --> 00:12:06,600
and like I said, it was 
one of the kindest gestures

329
00:12:07,633 --> 00:12:08,666
someone's ever done.

330
00:12:08,666 --> 00:12:10,233
I know we had it.

331
00:12:10,233 --> 00:12:12,300
Now, the question is, 
do we still have it?

332
00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:17,266
- So my grandma, 
bless her heart,

333
00:12:17,266 --> 00:12:19,966
she used to hand 
make our quilts.

334
00:12:19,966 --> 00:12:22,400
So she used to hand 
cut her patterns

335
00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,366
and it looked like 
a little baby doll

336
00:12:24,366 --> 00:12:26,133
and she'd created 
these little squares.

337
00:12:26,133 --> 00:12:29,166
And then when you flip the 
quilt over, it was very cool

338
00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:31,366
because they were made 
out of flour sacks.

339
00:12:31,366 --> 00:12:35,033
And so it would say Birmingham 
Alabama Flour Company

340
00:12:35,033 --> 00:12:36,500
so it was like...

341
00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:40,600
And so it was pretty cool and 
I'm very attached to them.

342
00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,100
So hopefully it's there.

343
00:12:44,333 --> 00:12:45,266
- All right, what 
else do we have?

344
00:12:45,266 --> 00:12:46,766
- I have a couple more things.

345
00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:48,300
- I'm in.

346
00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,700
- One thing that I think 
means a lot to both of us

347
00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:53,000
is our wedding 
brooms are out there.

348
00:12:54,433 --> 00:12:56,600
I'm not sure if you 
know what those are.

349
00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,866
- You would jump the broom.

350
00:12:57,866 --> 00:12:59,666
- Absolutely, we did, 
and there's the picture.

351
00:12:59,666 --> 00:13:01,300
- Walk me through the 
historical significance

352
00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:04,300
- Of jumping the broom? 
- Yeah.

353
00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:07,800
- During slavery, slaves 
weren't allowed to marry.

354
00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,900
So it signified their 
commitment to each other

355
00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:16,500
and that's the moment 
that they became connected

356
00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:17,300
and married.

357
00:13:20,966 --> 00:13:25,200
- Jumping the broom is a popular 
ritual at black weddings.

358
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,400
Once a couple is pronounced 
married, they hold hands,

359
00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,033
face the crowd and jump over 
a broomstick on the floor.

360
00:13:33,466 --> 00:13:36,433
It's a custom that's been 
around for hundreds of years.

361
00:13:36,433 --> 00:13:40,300
When enslaved couples were 
forbidden from legally marrying,

362
00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:41,733
they would jump the broom

363
00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:44,700
to signify their 
commitment to each other.

364
00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:47,966
Some speculate the 
practice started in Ghana.

365
00:13:47,966 --> 00:13:51,400
Other historians trace it 
back to the Romany communities

366
00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,300
of 18th century Wales.

367
00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:55,866
You might need a broom

368
00:13:55,866 --> 00:13:58,900
to sweep up after another 
popular wedding tradition,

369
00:13:58,900 --> 00:14:00,600
throwing rice,

370
00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,400
possibly dating back 
to the ancient Romans.

371
00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,100
The ritual is meant to symbolize 
fertility and prosperity.

372
00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:12,466
These days some couples 
go against the grain

373
00:14:12,466 --> 00:14:15,166
and opt for pedals 
or even bubbles.

374
00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,866
A Jewish wedding ceremony

375
00:14:17,866 --> 00:14:20,866
ends with stomping on 
a cloth-wrapped glass.

376
00:14:20,866 --> 00:14:23,633
Traditionally, the 
groom does the smashing.

377
00:14:23,633 --> 00:14:26,633
Nowadays, both 
spouses may take part.

378
00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:28,600
Some interpret the broken glass

379
00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,766
as a reminder of 
life's fragility.

380
00:14:31,766 --> 00:14:33,633
Even at joyous ceremonies,

381
00:14:33,633 --> 00:14:36,533
we carry the sorrow 
of our ancestors.

382
00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:40,500
As soon as the glass breaks 
guests shout mazel tov.

383
00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:43,233
Which marriage tradition

384
00:14:43,233 --> 00:14:47,300
is actually a relatively 
recent invention?

385
00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:49,800
Diamond engagement rings.

386
00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,633
Turns out diamonds are 
a girl's best friend

387
00:14:52,633 --> 00:14:54,766
thanks to marketers.

388
00:14:54,766 --> 00:14:57,366
In 1947, ad copywriter,

389
00:14:57,366 --> 00:15:00,633
Mary Francis Garrity 
coined the famous slogan,

390
00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:02,933
"A diamond is forever."

391
00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:06,400
and the diamond ring 
took off in popularity.

392
00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,400
Whatever you do to say "I do"

393
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,933
the memories and keepsakes 
can last a lifetime.

394
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,866
- So yeah, the final 
thing on the list.

395
00:15:18,866 --> 00:15:20,300
Most of the stuff been out there

396
00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,300
it's been packed for 
the last 16 years

397
00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:24,066
since hurricane Katrina.

398
00:15:24,066 --> 00:15:25,066
- Oh, you were there?

399
00:15:25,066 --> 00:15:26,266
- Oh, yes, my birthday weekend.

400
00:15:26,266 --> 00:15:28,066
We were having a birthday party

401
00:15:28,066 --> 00:15:31,300
until we got jumped in the 
car with 1.5 million people

402
00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:34,366
and drove away from New Orleans,

403
00:15:34,366 --> 00:15:38,300
in what, walls of water?

404
00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:40,166
- Man, I can't imagine.

405
00:15:41,966 --> 00:15:43,166
Coach, you're pretty Zen, man.

406
00:15:43,166 --> 00:15:44,466
You're pretty chill.

407
00:15:44,466 --> 00:15:46,333
I'm curious, hearing 
these stories,

408
00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:48,800
what does it make you 
think, make you feel?

409
00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,600
- Thankful that it 
wasn't any worse.

410
00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:58,866
Being caught on a 
bridge, sun shining,

411
00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,966
and within the next 45 
minutes it's pitch dark.

412
00:16:05,966 --> 00:16:06,800
- Still on the bridge.

413
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,666
- Still on the bridge.

414
00:16:07,666 --> 00:16:09,000
Bumper to bumper.

415
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,400
- The water was- 
- We were bumper to bumper.

416
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,433
- We could not see 
anything around us.

417
00:16:13,433 --> 00:16:15,466
We were just kind of in the car

418
00:16:15,466 --> 00:16:17,766
just waiting to 
see what happens.

419
00:16:17,766 --> 00:16:19,266
- That was really emotional

420
00:16:19,266 --> 00:16:22,266
to think that like, they 
just took what they could

421
00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:24,566
and they left and they hoped 
they'd get out of there.

422
00:16:24,566 --> 00:16:28,000
And that really puts 
a lot in perspective.

423
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,833
- Ironically, we were 
unpacking our house

424
00:16:31,833 --> 00:16:35,300
'cause we had just moved in 
it when we had evacuated.

425
00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:36,766
- So it was all packed up.

426
00:16:36,766 --> 00:16:38,333
- So it was still in the garage 
packed up for the most part

427
00:16:38,333 --> 00:16:39,566
and all over the house.

428
00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:41,233
So literally things that 
are out there packed,

429
00:16:41,233 --> 00:16:44,366
they've been packed since 2005.

430
00:16:44,366 --> 00:16:45,866
- Well, I was worried

431
00:16:45,866 --> 00:16:48,000
we'd have nothing to talk 
about other than basketball.

432
00:16:48,933 --> 00:16:50,600
Clearly, that's not the case.

433
00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,066
We've got a lot to talk about.

434
00:16:52,966 --> 00:16:54,233
I've got my marching orders.

435
00:16:54,233 --> 00:16:55,200
This is...

436
00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,166
I'm excited to get in there.

437
00:16:58,166 --> 00:17:01,233
There's some real actual 
history in your garage.

438
00:17:05,966 --> 00:17:09,266
(upbeat cheerful music)

439
00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:13,700
- [Cheryl] All 
right, where is he?

440
00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:14,866
He's hiding.

441
00:17:14,866 --> 00:17:15,700
- Yeah, there he is. 
- There he is.

442
00:17:15,700 --> 00:17:16,966
- What's up guys.

443
00:17:16,966 --> 00:17:17,800
- [Avi] How's it going? 
- [Mike] Hi, Matt.

444
00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,000
- [Jaime] Hey.

445
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,433
- Welcome to Columbus.

446
00:17:20,433 --> 00:17:21,266
- [Avi] Thanks. 
- [Jaime] This is beautiful.

447
00:17:21,266 --> 00:17:22,100
- Ohio, Ohio.

448
00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:23,066
- Beautiful home.

449
00:17:23,066 --> 00:17:24,400
Great family.

450
00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,900
We have a lot of 
work to do this week.

451
00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:28,166
- What else is new?

452
00:17:28,166 --> 00:17:28,966
- Did Gabe send to 
you the research?

453
00:17:28,966 --> 00:17:29,900
- Yup.

454
00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:30,700
- Jim and Cheryl Cleamons.

455
00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:32,266
Amazing family.

456
00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:36,533
You know, was an NBA 
coach for many years.

457
00:17:36,533 --> 00:17:40,266
They've moved over 10 
times over 20 years.

458
00:17:40,266 --> 00:17:41,400
- [Mike] Wow. 
- That's a lot of moves.

459
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,700
- [Matt] Yeah. 
- That's overwhelming.

460
00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:44,866
- That's why we're here- 
- Yeah.

461
00:17:44,866 --> 00:17:46,100
- all right. 
- It's interesting

462
00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:47,566
to be on this side 
of it, you know.

463
00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,466
Like, usually we're in a house 
to help somebody move out,

464
00:17:50,466 --> 00:17:52,433
but this time they moved in

465
00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:53,666
and we're still 
trying to help them

466
00:17:53,666 --> 00:17:55,166
kind of figure out 
where things go.

467
00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:56,166
- They need to settle.

468
00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:57,366
- Yeah. 
- Yeah.

469
00:17:57,366 --> 00:17:58,800
And they've just 
never been able to,

470
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,833
because they've always 
been moving to the next job

471
00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:02,100
and they're just stuck.

472
00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,600
It's really weighing them down.

473
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,200
I mean, their whole 
life is on hold.

474
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,400
- Yeah.

475
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,733
The task of unpacking 
is very daunting.

476
00:18:09,733 --> 00:18:11,433
Especially when you have boxes

477
00:18:11,433 --> 00:18:14,500
that you haven't looked 
at in 15 or 20 years.

478
00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:18,233
So I can understand why 
Cheryl and Jim are hesitant

479
00:18:18,233 --> 00:18:20,566
to really start the 
unpacking process.

480
00:18:20,566 --> 00:18:23,766
- Legacy List is wedding brooms.

481
00:18:23,766 --> 00:18:24,700
- Wedding brooms. 
- Wedding brooms.

482
00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:26,100
- The original wedding rooms.

483
00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:29,300
Cheryl was a professional 
dancer in the NBA

484
00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:30,966
with the Chicago Bulls,

485
00:18:30,966 --> 00:18:35,033
and then now, this daughter, 
she just became a dancer

486
00:18:35,033 --> 00:18:36,466
for the Washington Wizards.

487
00:18:36,466 --> 00:18:38,000
- What? 
- Yeah,

488
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,833
and so now we've got to find 
her little baby dance shoes

489
00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:42,700
which is pretty cool.

490
00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:46,033
Cheryl's grandma was 
a quilter in Alabama.

491
00:18:46,033 --> 00:18:47,266
- Oh, wow.

492
00:18:47,266 --> 00:18:48,533
- Just amazing, 
beautiful quilts.

493
00:18:48,533 --> 00:18:49,766
We've got to find those.

494
00:18:49,766 --> 00:18:51,566
We've got a whole bunch 
of stuff from Katrina.

495
00:18:51,566 --> 00:18:53,133
So we just want to 
put that to the side

496
00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:54,766
so the family can 
really go through that.

497
00:18:54,766 --> 00:18:56,166
That's going to be 
really important

498
00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,766
to go through those boxes.

499
00:18:57,766 --> 00:19:00,600
And then we've got a ton 
of sports memorabilia.

500
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,300
And when I say a 
ton, I mean a ton.

501
00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:06,466
- As I started to learn 
about Jim and his career,

502
00:19:06,466 --> 00:19:10,366
I was so excited because 
I was a huge Bulls fan,

503
00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:11,833
huge Lakers fan

504
00:19:11,833 --> 00:19:15,400
and I could not wait to see 
what kind of memorabilia he had.

505
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,066
- Just remember when you 
find a pair of shoes,

506
00:19:17,066 --> 00:19:19,466
they don't necessarily just 
go right into the donation.

507
00:19:19,466 --> 00:19:20,866
(laughing)

508
00:19:20,866 --> 00:19:22,100
- It could be Michael Jordan's.

509
00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,366
- It could be Kobe's 
or it could be Shaq's.

510
00:19:23,366 --> 00:19:24,500
I think you'll know if 
you find Shaq's shoes.

511
00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:25,633
- Yeah. 
- Yeah.

512
00:19:25,633 --> 00:19:27,100
(crosstalk)

513
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,333
- Anything they can donate 
to make someone's life better

514
00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:30,333
they would like to do that.

515
00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:31,800
- Cool.

516
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,166
- So re-homing is the 
word we're gonna use here?

517
00:19:33,166 --> 00:19:34,400
Donating.

518
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,966
We're not really looking 
at sell as an option.

519
00:19:36,966 --> 00:19:39,233
So you and I will start 
picking out here this morning

520
00:19:39,233 --> 00:19:42,200
and then I need you to 
bring the full team in.

521
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,366
And I mean, we really need 
to be able to pull a car

522
00:19:45,366 --> 00:19:47,033
into that garage.

523
00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:48,433
- Are you going to show 
us what's behind the door?

524
00:19:48,433 --> 00:19:49,366
- [Matt] Do you want to see it?

525
00:19:49,366 --> 00:19:50,300
- [Jaime] I do want to see it.

526
00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:51,800
- [Mike] Rip the bandaid off.

527
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,600
- [Matt] Okay, here we go.

528
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,733
- [Jaime] Oh, yeah, 
you weren't lying.

529
00:19:54,733 --> 00:19:55,666
- [Matt] No, it's a lot.

530
00:19:55,666 --> 00:19:57,000
- [Jaime] You we're not lying.

531
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,833
Oh, my goodness.

532
00:19:57,833 --> 00:19:59,166
- When I looked at it,

533
00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:01,600
it looked like it was 
just a two car garage.

534
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,766
I didn't realize how 
far back it went.

535
00:20:03,766 --> 00:20:05,000
- All right, we'll 
see you in a bit.

536
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,266
- All, right we will see you. 
- Good luck.

537
00:20:10,166 --> 00:20:12,533
(upbeat cheerful music)

538
00:20:12,533 --> 00:20:13,466
- Furniture.

539
00:20:13,466 --> 00:20:14,566
A lot of furniture on the side.

540
00:20:14,566 --> 00:20:17,866
(upbeat cheerful music)

541
00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:22,600
- When you walk into 
the living room,

542
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,700
you expect it to be a 
room you can live in.

543
00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:27,066
In this case, not so much.

544
00:20:27,066 --> 00:20:30,566
- It honestly looked like the 
moving truck had just left.

545
00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:32,133
- One, two, three.

546
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,800
Let's just go against 
the side of the house.

547
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,066
- Okay.

548
00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:41,500
- This is great.

549
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,500
- Oh, my God.

550
00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:45,733
Keeping you back out here.

551
00:20:47,466 --> 00:20:50,800
- Avi and I found a ton of 
stuff in the family room.

552
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,266
We found boxes full of 
old board games, puzzles,

553
00:20:55,266 --> 00:20:57,666
a box of crayons that 
belong to their daughters

554
00:20:57,666 --> 00:20:58,933
when they were little

555
00:20:58,933 --> 00:21:01,200
that still smelled 
like crayons smell.

556
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,633
Does that not bring 
back your childhood?

557
00:21:02,633 --> 00:21:05,333
- God, I'm at my desk in 
first grade right now.

558
00:21:07,833 --> 00:21:10,400
(upbeat music)

559
00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:13,100
- Hey Mike, come 
here real quick.

560
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,066
I need help with this.

561
00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:15,000
- All right.

562
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,966
- Just pull on the outside.

563
00:21:17,166 --> 00:21:18,700
- I think I found 
some cool stuff.

564
00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:19,533
Whoa.

565
00:21:19,533 --> 00:21:20,633
Yep, I did.

566
00:21:20,633 --> 00:21:22,066
Pretty quickly,

567
00:21:22,066 --> 00:21:25,133
Mike and I find incredible 
basketball history.

568
00:21:25,133 --> 00:21:27,833
Look at all these balls. 
- Oh my God.

569
00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:28,666
What is that?

570
00:21:28,666 --> 00:21:29,500
- It's Mr Cleamons'.

571
00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:31,033
- 1993.

572
00:21:31,033 --> 00:21:32,233
- Oh, no way.

573
00:21:32,233 --> 00:21:35,600
- This is the 1993 
Chicago Bulls.

574
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,100
To sit there and hold a ball 
from the NBA Championship game

575
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,533
signed by all these 
amazing players.

576
00:21:42,533 --> 00:21:44,533
That was a really special thing.

577
00:21:44,533 --> 00:21:45,766
Michael Jordan there.

578
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:48,100
- Oh, my gosh.

579
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,600
Look where he signed it.

580
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,666
- Of course.

581
00:21:50,666 --> 00:21:52,533
(Matt laughs)

582
00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:56,066
Wow, man, this is crazy.

583
00:21:56,066 --> 00:21:57,633
- It should be in 
a museum somewhere,

584
00:21:57,633 --> 00:22:00,200
but it is in this garage.

585
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,566
- What team is that?

586
00:22:01,566 --> 00:22:02,800
That would be '91. 
- This is Bill Kurt, right.

587
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,966
- '91 World Champion.

588
00:22:03,966 --> 00:22:05,433
- Will Perdue.

589
00:22:05,433 --> 00:22:07,133
- I've never found 
anything like this.

590
00:22:07,133 --> 00:22:07,933
- Yeah.

591
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,300
- Thing is insane.

592
00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:12,566
- If I had one of these, I 
would build a shrine for it.

593
00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:13,833
- I mean, and I get it.

594
00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,333
I guess once you, you 
know, have this many,

595
00:22:16,333 --> 00:22:17,400
you get like-

596
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,433
- A little jaded.

597
00:22:18,433 --> 00:22:19,700
- Yeah, it's not as big a deal

598
00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:21,900
when you got, you 
know, 10 of them.

599
00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:24,000
(upbeat music)

600
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,600
- [Male Voice] Basketball.

601
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,533
It's a sport played 
around the world,

602
00:22:28,533 --> 00:22:31,733
but its roots are 
uniquely American.

603
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:37,100
It all begins in Springfield, 
Massachusetts in 1891.

604
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,833
A YMCA instructor by the 
name of James Naismith

605
00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:43,433
wants to keep bored 
students distracted

606
00:22:43,433 --> 00:22:47,000
while they're stuck indoors 
throughout a harsh winter.

607
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,233
His solution, peach baskets.

608
00:22:50,233 --> 00:22:52,433
He nails two on wooden poles

609
00:22:52,433 --> 00:22:55,933
and challenges students to 
throw the ball into a basket.

610
00:22:55,933 --> 00:22:58,533
The first game is chaos.

611
00:22:58,533 --> 00:23:03,333
Players tackle each other and 
only a single basket is made.

612
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:07,533
Naismith realizes he has 
to set some ground rules.

613
00:23:07,533 --> 00:23:11,600
The most important, no 
running with the ball.

614
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,266
Naismith writes up the 
first official rule book

615
00:23:14,266 --> 00:23:17,900
and the game of 
basketball takes off.

616
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:19,766
It's a big hit with colleges

617
00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:22,600
and in 1946, a 
professional league,

618
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,500
the Basketball Association 
of America is formed.

619
00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:30,400
The league is a success, but 
it takes another four years

620
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,800
before the first 
African-American player,

621
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,900
Chuck Cooper is drafted.

622
00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:39,066
The college game takes even 
longer to accept black players.

623
00:23:39,066 --> 00:23:43,633
The watershed moment 
comes on March 19th, 1966.

624
00:23:43,633 --> 00:23:46,366
That's the night an 
all-black starting five

625
00:23:46,366 --> 00:23:48,100
from Texas Western College

626
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:51,666
defeats the powerful and 
all-white team from Kentucky

627
00:23:51,666 --> 00:23:53,166
for the National Championship.

628
00:23:54,666 --> 00:23:56,366
Colleges across the country

629
00:23:56,366 --> 00:23:59,200
slowly began offering 
scholarships to players

630
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,900
based on talent, not skin color.

631
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,366
For over 50 years,

632
00:24:04,366 --> 00:24:07,566
the popularity of both 
college and pro basketball

633
00:24:07,566 --> 00:24:09,800
has been a slam dunk.

634
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,333
Thanks to television rights 
and superstar players

635
00:24:13,333 --> 00:24:16,500
basketball is now a 
billion dollar business

636
00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:18,600
that spans the globe.

637
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,200
Basketball has come a long 
way since that first game

638
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,400
and its future looks 
down right peachy.

639
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,566
(children chattering)

640
00:24:27,566 --> 00:24:30,200
(upbeat rock music)

641
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,600
- I just don't want to...

642
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,633
- All right, I'll 
go through these.

643
00:24:32,633 --> 00:24:35,633
- Yeah, this is unbelievable.

644
00:24:35,633 --> 00:24:36,800
I know that color.

645
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,133
- Oh, no.

646
00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:38,966
I've got this.

647
00:24:38,966 --> 00:24:39,766
- Take that.

648
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,333
- I think I know what this is.

649
00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:43,900
- You know that's Lakers colors.

650
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:45,166
- Yeah.

651
00:24:45,166 --> 00:24:46,833
He coached for them 
and played for them.

652
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,266
- Oh, my gosh.

653
00:24:51,266 --> 00:24:53,133
- Shaquille O'Neil, 34.

654
00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:53,966
Look at the back.

655
00:24:53,966 --> 00:24:55,266
Look on the number.

656
00:24:55,266 --> 00:24:56,466
(Mike gasps)

657
00:24:56,466 --> 00:24:58,266
Autographed by Shaquille O'Neil.

658
00:24:58,266 --> 00:24:59,700
- Oh, my gosh.

659
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,166
That is crazy. 
- Holy cow.

660
00:25:02,166 --> 00:25:03,900
Shaq Diesel.

661
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,133
As a guy that grew up 
watching basketball,

662
00:25:06,133 --> 00:25:08,300
this is an incredible 
garage to clean out,

663
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,166
but we have to 
remember, for Cheryl,

664
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:11,600
this is just her husband's junk

665
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,833
and she's been hauling 
it around for 25 years

666
00:25:13,833 --> 00:25:15,400
and she just wants it gone.

667
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800
(upbeat cheerful music ends)

668
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,100
(upbeat cheerful music)

669
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:27,433
- One of the things we found

670
00:25:27,433 --> 00:25:28,633
as we were looking 
through the boxes

671
00:25:28,633 --> 00:25:30,466
was one of the 
Legacy List items.

672
00:25:30,466 --> 00:25:31,733
It was the quilt.

673
00:25:31,733 --> 00:25:32,866
Quilts?

674
00:25:32,866 --> 00:25:34,300
- Some of them.

675
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:37,066
It was actually in a box 
with some other baby blankets

676
00:25:37,066 --> 00:25:38,666
that belong to their daughters.

677
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,466
Look at that. 
- [Avi] Oh, yeah.

678
00:25:43,466 --> 00:25:46,100
- I think when we have 
these family heirlooms

679
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:50,133
that were actually handmade 
by generations past,

680
00:25:50,133 --> 00:25:53,266
it adds another layer 
of sentimental value

681
00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:56,666
and that's why I think this 
quilt is important to Cheryl.

682
00:25:56,666 --> 00:25:58,900
- This is awesome find here.

683
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,233
We're looking forward to 
sharing it with Cheryl.

684
00:26:07,633 --> 00:26:09,966
(upbeat music)

685
00:26:09,966 --> 00:26:11,800
- Look at this.

686
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,200
Michael Jordan autograph.

687
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,466
- '92. 
- '92.

688
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:19,066
- Wow.

689
00:26:19,066 --> 00:26:20,933
- 99 out of a hundred times

690
00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:23,366
I tell everybody 
recycle the magazines.

691
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,633
Not this stack, man. 
- No.

692
00:26:27,633 --> 00:26:28,733
- Look at this.

693
00:26:28,733 --> 00:26:29,600
Dude, what.

694
00:26:31,166 --> 00:26:32,633
This is insane.

695
00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:33,866
It's amazing.

696
00:26:33,866 --> 00:26:35,966
All the collectibles 
have skyrocketed,

697
00:26:35,966 --> 00:26:37,933
especially sports memorabilia, 
and it was really fascinating

698
00:26:37,933 --> 00:26:42,900
to see how much history 
was in that garage.

699
00:26:43,533 --> 00:26:46,100
(upbeat music)

700
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,466
- All right, I mean we... 
- The tri...

701
00:26:48,466 --> 00:26:49,666
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

702
00:26:49,666 --> 00:26:51,033
The triangle offense.

703
00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:52,166
- Yeah.

704
00:26:52,166 --> 00:26:53,866
I mean, this is insane, dude.

705
00:26:53,866 --> 00:26:55,733
This is coach's notes.

706
00:26:55,733 --> 00:26:56,966
- Oh.

707
00:26:56,966 --> 00:26:58,633
- Coach's notes from 
those Bulls teams.

708
00:26:58,633 --> 00:27:03,200
He's taking these at practices 
and developing plays.

709
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,033
- That's awesome.

710
00:27:05,033 --> 00:27:07,233
One of the really key factors

711
00:27:07,233 --> 00:27:08,733
of collecting is the provenance

712
00:27:08,733 --> 00:27:11,100
and being able to trace 
the history of the items.

713
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,966
There is no question 
he was right there

714
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:16,033
and he was getting 
these things signed

715
00:27:16,033 --> 00:27:18,633
from the players 
and coaches himself.

716
00:27:18,633 --> 00:27:20,900
- I guess this would be 
handed out to the players

717
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:22,300
to tell how long ago it was.

718
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:23,400
Hand them handouts.

719
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,833
It's like, go memorize this.

720
00:27:24,833 --> 00:27:26,266
All right, okay, look.

721
00:27:26,266 --> 00:27:28,466
I mean, we're not even 
putting a dent in this room

722
00:27:28,466 --> 00:27:30,400
and we're all ready 
have found more work

723
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,400
than you could ever have.

724
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Let's call Jaime 
and Avi in here.

725
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,733
- All right.

726
00:27:34,733 --> 00:27:36,200
- Got to get everybody in here.

727
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,200
Kind of an all hands on 
deck to go through all this.

728
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,033
- Okay.

729
00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:41,000
(upbeat music ends)

730
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,933
(upbeat music starts)

731
00:27:53,066 --> 00:27:54,866
- Me and my team, 
we're going to start

732
00:27:54,866 --> 00:27:57,533
and we're going 
to need you or Jim

733
00:27:57,533 --> 00:27:59,900
to really help us make 
some of these decisions.

734
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:00,766
- I'm confident

735
00:28:02,233 --> 00:28:03,766
80% Of the furniture that's 
in here could be donated.

736
00:28:03,766 --> 00:28:04,900
- Okay.

737
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:06,566
As soon as I met Cheryl,

738
00:28:06,566 --> 00:28:09,133
I knew she was a 
take-charge kind of woman.

739
00:28:09,133 --> 00:28:10,833
She was going to be able 
to make the decisions

740
00:28:10,833 --> 00:28:13,933
that we needed to be made in 
a really efficient manner.

741
00:28:14,933 --> 00:28:16,100
- Where are we starting?

742
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:17,966
- Well, I mean, you know,

743
00:28:17,966 --> 00:28:19,900
we've got this 
furniture right here.

744
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,300
I think it's like a 
Murphy bed or something.

745
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:22,833
- It is.

746
00:28:22,833 --> 00:28:26,600
It's a Murphy bed and it is 
usable and it's a donation.

747
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,533
- All right.

748
00:28:27,533 --> 00:28:28,866
- So we need to find it a home.

749
00:28:28,866 --> 00:28:30,400
- [Mike] Boom. 
- [Cheryl] Okay, excellent.

750
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,333
- Done.

751
00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:32,266
- The tall one behind you.

752
00:28:33,166 --> 00:28:34,900
- All right. 
- Boom.

753
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:35,800
- Boom. 
- I like this process.

754
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,733
I'm all in, let's go.

755
00:28:36,733 --> 00:28:38,266
- I see there's a lot of clothes

756
00:28:38,266 --> 00:28:41,133
and I'm sure there's a lot 
more back here somewhere.

757
00:28:41,133 --> 00:28:42,400
Is there anywhere in particular

758
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,500
we should look at 
donating them to?

759
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:45,766
- I always thought

760
00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:47,700
that when people got 
out of incarceration

761
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:48,800
they got something,

762
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,333
but they are 
released with nothing

763
00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:51,900
and they're put 
in work programs.

764
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:55,000
And so I thought it'd be a good 
place to maybe find a place

765
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,566
that could help them with 
some of these clothes.

766
00:28:57,566 --> 00:28:58,966
And then I know

767
00:28:58,966 --> 00:29:01,766
that the Urban League of 
Columbus has My Brother's Closet

768
00:29:01,766 --> 00:29:03,200
and I know

769
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,433
that a few of these clothes 
could work well there.

770
00:29:04,433 --> 00:29:06,733
I think that would 
be helpful for them.

771
00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:08,166
- All right, that's great.

772
00:29:08,166 --> 00:29:10,833
There's some big 
pieces of furniture.

773
00:29:10,833 --> 00:29:12,233
Like this is big.

774
00:29:12,233 --> 00:29:13,933
- Yeah, there's something 
bigger back there.

775
00:29:13,933 --> 00:29:16,200
Maybe two or three things 
that are bigger back here.

776
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,133
- All right, well, the good news

777
00:29:17,133 --> 00:29:19,933
is with big pieces of furniture

778
00:29:19,933 --> 00:29:23,100
they create big pockets 
of space when they leave.

779
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,333
- That's awesome.

780
00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:26,133
- So we get a few 
of those things out

781
00:29:26,133 --> 00:29:28,366
we're well on our way to 
fitting a car in here.

782
00:29:28,366 --> 00:29:30,333
- That's cool. 
- All right.

783
00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:31,833
Thanks, Cheryl.

784
00:29:31,833 --> 00:29:34,900
- I can do that.

785
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:37,433
(upbeat music)

786
00:29:40,966 --> 00:29:43,533
- I've moved my 
kids and it's a lot.

787
00:29:43,533 --> 00:29:45,233
It's a lot to put on a 
family to pick them up

788
00:29:45,233 --> 00:29:49,066
and move them one time and 
they've done it 10 plus times.

789
00:29:49,066 --> 00:29:50,700
I mean, these girls are amazing

790
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,500
to know they've had to pack up

791
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,766
and move over and 
over and over again.

792
00:29:55,666 --> 00:29:57,300
- How many times have we moved?

793
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,466
- I honestly can't say.

794
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,400
I don't know how many 
times we've moved.

795
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,500
Mostly when we were younger

796
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,933
and then it stopped once 
we got into high school.

797
00:30:07,933 --> 00:30:12,166
- I remember moving back 
and forth to New Orleans

798
00:30:12,166 --> 00:30:13,666
and California.

799
00:30:13,666 --> 00:30:16,900
- A big advantage of that for 
me is that we're very close.

800
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:18,566
Like we're very good friends.

801
00:30:18,566 --> 00:30:21,466
And I know a lot of people 
have sibling rivalries

802
00:30:21,466 --> 00:30:22,666
and stuff like that,

803
00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:24,700
but I go to Rose all 
the time for everything.

804
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:26,966
She's basically my best friend.

805
00:30:26,966 --> 00:30:29,633
So moving a lot 
created a bond with us

806
00:30:29,633 --> 00:30:31,433
because I know what 
she's going through,

807
00:30:31,433 --> 00:30:33,066
she knows what 
I'm going through.

808
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,166
- This family had a unique bond.

809
00:30:38,166 --> 00:30:41,166
They've moved across the 
country and back again,

810
00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:43,233
but they've always 
done it together.

811
00:30:43,233 --> 00:30:46,066
And now they're here 
to really put roots

812
00:30:46,066 --> 00:30:48,000
in what's going to 
be their family home.

813
00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:51,733
- We're very happy 
that you're here

814
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:53,366
to help us get rid of stuff

815
00:30:53,366 --> 00:30:56,800
and it won't be hard for 
anyone except for my dad.

816
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,633
- Yes. 
- Yes.

817
00:30:57,633 --> 00:30:59,766
(both laughing)

818
00:30:59,766 --> 00:31:03,266
My mom is very much like 
if we're not using it,

819
00:31:03,266 --> 00:31:06,566
if we haven't thought about 
it, and we see it, it's out.

820
00:31:06,566 --> 00:31:08,133
We clearly don't need 
it at this point.

821
00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:12,900
And I totally agree, 
but my dad, I think

822
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:17,300
he feels kind of more 
deeply connected to items

823
00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:18,800
than the rest of us do.

824
00:31:19,966 --> 00:31:21,400
He's definitely 
going to be the one

825
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,366
to try and hold on 
to as much as he can.

826
00:31:25,833 --> 00:31:29,000
- So we have some clothes to 
go through, it looks like.

827
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,200
- Okay.

828
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,466
Yes, we do. 
- Yes, we do.

829
00:31:32,466 --> 00:31:33,666
And you know,

830
00:31:33,666 --> 00:31:34,833
I tell people that it's 
okay to keep things

831
00:31:34,833 --> 00:31:36,833
that are sentimental,

832
00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:38,633
but we do have to make 
some tough decisions-

833
00:31:38,633 --> 00:31:40,133
- We will.

834
00:31:40,133 --> 00:31:42,166
- and we've identified some 
great local organizations

835
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:43,600
that we are going 
to donate things to.

836
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,100
So I'll let pick out something

837
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:47,600
and tell me why you're 
ready to get rid of it.

838
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,066
- Okay, those.

839
00:31:49,066 --> 00:31:50,933
And if I got one of those 
I probably got five.

840
00:31:50,933 --> 00:31:52,366
- Okay, so we can 
let this one go.

841
00:31:52,366 --> 00:31:53,933
- We can let that one go.

842
00:31:53,933 --> 00:31:56,033
- Okay, I'll hold on to the 
ones we're going to donate.

843
00:31:56,033 --> 00:31:57,966
Now, I see some 
suits over here too.

844
00:31:57,966 --> 00:32:00,500
Are these suits that you 
would wear for games?

845
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:02,166
I mean, I always notice.

846
00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:04,700
I may not be the biggest 
sports aficionado,

847
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:07,966
but I do notice that the 
coaches are always dressed.

848
00:32:07,966 --> 00:32:09,900
- I'm not employed right now

849
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:11,133
so I don't have 
to worry about it.

850
00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:12,600
- No.

851
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,933
Jim was ultimately ready to 
let go of a lot of these items,

852
00:32:18,366 --> 00:32:20,666
but not before he told the 
story of what each one meant.

853
00:32:20,666 --> 00:32:22,933
- This team did 
some special stuff

854
00:32:22,933 --> 00:32:27,566
and because they invite 
us back to give us these

855
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,800
in commemoration of 
the year that we had

856
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,033
that year in that team, 
I got to keep this.

857
00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:35,333
- Absolutely.

858
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:36,666
Yeah, that's definitely a keep.

859
00:32:36,666 --> 00:32:38,700
- Yeah, that's a 
keeper right there.

860
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,833
- All right, onto the next rack.

861
00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:41,833
I see some jackets over there.

862
00:32:41,833 --> 00:32:44,100
- Well, this used to be 
one of my favorite jackets.

863
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,400
This was an expensive suit.

864
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,200
I remember buying this suit.

865
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,366
(laughing)

866
00:32:48,366 --> 00:32:49,633
Okay.

867
00:32:49,633 --> 00:32:50,900
- Now, that's why a lot 
of people keep things

868
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:52,766
instead of donating 
them when they should,

869
00:32:52,766 --> 00:32:54,066
because of what 
they paid for them.

870
00:32:54,066 --> 00:32:55,766
It's really about, are 
you going to use it?

871
00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:56,933
Go with your gut.

872
00:32:56,933 --> 00:32:58,200
- Go with my gut?

873
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Well, once again, we're 
doing someone a solid.

874
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,966
- We're donating them 
to the community.

875
00:33:04,966 --> 00:33:06,733
They're absolutely 
going to be used.

876
00:33:07,933 --> 00:33:09,533
- And they're going 
to want to look good.

877
00:33:09,533 --> 00:33:11,033
And I think that 
we should go ahead

878
00:33:11,033 --> 00:33:12,800
and make sure that 
they look good.

879
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,833
Dress for success.

880
00:33:13,833 --> 00:33:15,100
- Dress for success.

881
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:15,900
That's awesome.

882
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,700
(upbeat music)

883
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:23,633
- I mean, here we are.

884
00:33:23,633 --> 00:33:26,066
More than 15 years after Katrina

885
00:33:26,066 --> 00:33:28,300
and some of the things 
that they pack then

886
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:29,833
are still in boxes.

887
00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:31,766
I bet this is going to be a 
really emotional experience

888
00:33:31,766 --> 00:33:33,733
to go through these boxes.

889
00:33:33,733 --> 00:33:35,800
- What is definitely trash?

890
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,566
- Almost everything 
Christmasy is trash.

891
00:33:37,566 --> 00:33:39,266
- Okay, I'm going to get 
all the Christmas together.

892
00:33:39,266 --> 00:33:40,766
- If you put it all together...

893
00:33:40,766 --> 00:33:41,700
- And then I'm gong to let 
you make that decision.

894
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:42,633
- Just a little bit, yeah.

895
00:33:42,633 --> 00:33:43,866
- I'm just not feeling

896
00:33:43,866 --> 00:33:45,866
like I need to make 
any decisions for you.

897
00:33:45,866 --> 00:33:47,833
I want to set it up so 
you can make them quickly.

898
00:33:47,833 --> 00:33:48,766
- Yeah, that's 
what I would love.

899
00:33:48,766 --> 00:33:50,066
- When you've been waiting

900
00:33:50,066 --> 00:33:52,200
to have your garage 
cleaned this long,

901
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:55,766
it's scary when it 
actually happens.

902
00:33:55,766 --> 00:33:56,800
- I'm sorry, I'm about to cry.

903
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,766
I don't want to cry.

904
00:33:57,766 --> 00:33:58,466
- No, you don't need to cry.

905
00:33:58,466 --> 00:33:59,400
It's all right.

906
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,433
Thank you for trusting us.

907
00:34:00,433 --> 00:34:01,600
I know this is hard.

908
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,000
As we start to 
unpack these boxes,

909
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,933
we have to be very careful.

910
00:34:03,933 --> 00:34:05,133
We have to go at the right pace

911
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:06,866
and we have to keep 
Cheryl in charge

912
00:34:06,866 --> 00:34:09,566
or otherwise it's just 
too much emotion happening

913
00:34:09,566 --> 00:34:10,766
at the same time.

914
00:34:10,766 --> 00:34:12,166
- I think we'll get all 
the sports together,

915
00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:14,300
all the holiday together, 
all the pictures,

916
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:15,800
put those together,

917
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,900
and then you can start to make 
your decisions pretty quick.

918
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:18,700
Okay.

919
00:34:20,133 --> 00:34:21,666
You know, we've got a 
lot of basketball history

920
00:34:21,666 --> 00:34:23,100
in this house, but we also 
have a lot of US history.

921
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:24,800
I mean, Katrina is 
a massive event.

922
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,166
One of the biggest 
meteorological events

923
00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:28,600
in our nation's history.

924
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,733
(upbeat ominous music)

925
00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:34,000
- Hurricanes, they're 
a force of nature,

926
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,833
capable of destroying 
everything in their path.

927
00:34:37,833 --> 00:34:41,433
When warm air rises, 
surrounding air rushes in

928
00:34:41,433 --> 00:34:42,900
to replace it.

929
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:46,466
Storm clouds are formed and 
thanks to the Earth's rotation,

930
00:34:46,466 --> 00:34:50,500
begin to spin like 
giant atmospheric tops.

931
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:52,866
When the winds reach 
sustained speeds

932
00:34:52,866 --> 00:34:57,833
of at least 74 miles per hour, 
they're called a hurricane.

933
00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:02,066
As these super storms approach 
land, they're given names.

934
00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:03,933
The tradition of naming storms

935
00:35:03,933 --> 00:35:06,566
started with meteorologist 
Clement Wragge

936
00:35:06,566 --> 00:35:09,000
in the late 19th century.

937
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,433
How did he pick the names? 
(thunder claps)

938
00:35:11,433 --> 00:35:13,833
Good old fashion grudges.

939
00:35:13,833 --> 00:35:18,700
He named weather events after 
politicians he disliked.

940
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,733
Starting in 1953

941
00:35:20,733 --> 00:35:25,033
the National Hurricane Center 
began naming Atlantic storms.

942
00:35:25,033 --> 00:35:28,466
Originally, they were 
only named after women,

943
00:35:28,466 --> 00:35:30,900
but that changed in 1979

944
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,366
when activist Roxcy 
Bolton pointed out

945
00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:35,766
that women shouldn't 
take all the blame

946
00:35:35,766 --> 00:35:38,100
for natural disasters.

947
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:42,833
The deadliest hurricane in US 
history took place in 1900.

948
00:35:42,833 --> 00:35:45,500
That's when the city 
of Galveston, Texas

949
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:47,900
was hit by a hurricane 
packing winds

950
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,866
of over 140 miles per hour.

951
00:35:50,866 --> 00:35:54,000
Over 10,000 people 
lost their lives

952
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,733
and another 10,000 
were left homeless.

953
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,800
And then there was 
Hurricane Katrina.

954
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,866
On August 29th, 2005, 
Hurricane Katrina made landfall

955
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:10,266
near New Orleans with winds 
up to 170 miles per hour.

956
00:36:11,733 --> 00:36:16,100
Levees catastrophically  failed 
and 80% of the city flooded.

957
00:36:17,433 --> 00:36:19,800
Many were unable to evacuate

958
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,366
and thousands were 
forced to flee the city.

959
00:36:23,366 --> 00:36:27,233
All in all over 1 million 
Gulf Coast residents

960
00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:28,766
fled their homes.

961
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:34,766
Still, many residents returned 
to rebuild their communities.

962
00:36:35,666 --> 00:36:37,300
Neighbors delivered groceries.

963
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,600
Volunteers provided 
free medical care.

964
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,300
In times of 
unprecedented tragedy,

965
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:47,100
people demonstrate 
extraordinary generosity.

966
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:51,033
It seems the one thing a 
hurricane can't destroy

967
00:36:51,033 --> 00:36:52,633
is the human spirit.

968
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,966
(upbeat music)

969
00:37:01,366 --> 00:37:02,833
- We were lucky enough

970
00:37:02,833 --> 00:37:04,533
that Jim was ready to 
donate some of these suits

971
00:37:04,533 --> 00:37:07,166
and the Urban League was 
going to be the beneficiary.

972
00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:12,966
- [Jaime] You got it?

973
00:37:12,966 --> 00:37:13,766
- Yeah.

974
00:37:19,966 --> 00:37:22,933
(indistinct)

975
00:37:22,933 --> 00:37:24,533
- There we go.

976
00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:25,866
Hello.

977
00:37:25,866 --> 00:37:27,200
- Hey, how are you today? 
- How are you?

978
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,333
I'm Jaime, nice to meet you.

979
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:29,333
- Nice to see you. 
- I'm Avi.

980
00:37:29,333 --> 00:37:30,166
Nice to meet you.

981
00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:31,366
- Nice to see you too.

982
00:37:31,366 --> 00:37:33,266
Avi, I love that name. 
- [Avi] Thank you.

983
00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:34,733
- Well, thank you 
for coming over today

984
00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:37,066
to learn more about 
My Brother's Closet.

985
00:37:37,066 --> 00:37:38,500
- Absolutely.

986
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:39,533
Would love to hear a 
little bit more about it.

987
00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:40,366
What you all do?

988
00:37:40,366 --> 00:37:41,300
- Sure.

989
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,600
Probably about eight years ago,

990
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,900
our workforce development 
program manager

991
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,900
was saying that I'm 
trying to get people,

992
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,133
when they were coming in to 
do their mock interviews,

993
00:37:51,133 --> 00:37:53,233
we're trying to get 
them ready for work.

994
00:37:53,233 --> 00:37:55,233
And he said, but we really 
want to get them ready,

995
00:37:55,233 --> 00:37:58,500
not just with the verbal 
cues and communications,

996
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,333
but how do we help people to 
start looking more appropriate?

997
00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:04,533
So he asked if it was okay 
if I went to a local cleaners

998
00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:06,300
and picked up the 
shirts that, you know,

999
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,666
people abandon their 
clothes for a long time.

1000
00:38:09,666 --> 00:38:12,633
And then one day we 
had one of our clients.

1001
00:38:12,633 --> 00:38:14,400
We were trying to get him 
ready for the next day

1002
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,000
for his interview and we said 
you need to put on your tie

1003
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,133
and tuck your shirt in.

1004
00:38:21,033 --> 00:38:22,166
And he was really resistant.

1005
00:38:22,166 --> 00:38:24,433
He finally tucked his shirt in

1006
00:38:24,433 --> 00:38:26,966
and his belt was a coat hanger.

1007
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:30,000
And that's what 
he had to lift up.

1008
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,833
And so from there that just 
inspired the program manager

1009
00:38:33,833 --> 00:38:36,633
at the time, and myself, and 
said we've got to make sure

1010
00:38:36,633 --> 00:38:38,100
we get people suited and booted

1011
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,200
because it really plays 
into their psyche.

1012
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,700
- Absolutely.

1013
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:44,300
- For them to feel good about 
going to a job interview...

1014
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:45,900
- You look good, you play good.

1015
00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:46,766
- Exactly.

1016
00:38:46,766 --> 00:38:48,266
Absolutely.

1017
00:38:48,266 --> 00:38:49,633
- Do you want to take a 
look at what we brought in

1018
00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:51,166
just to make sure

1019
00:38:51,166 --> 00:38:54,066
that it's, you know, up to 
the standards of donation?

1020
00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:55,466
- Oh, sure, and you know,

1021
00:38:55,466 --> 00:38:59,700
especially because these 
clothes are all ready, you know,

1022
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:01,766
been laundered.

1023
00:39:01,766 --> 00:39:03,300
That's really important.

1024
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:04,100
Oh gosh.

1025
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,300
And these are also...

1026
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,733
These sizes are tall men sizes

1027
00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:09,333
and that's really 
important to us

1028
00:39:09,333 --> 00:39:12,500
because a lot of 
times the tall men...

1029
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:13,900
Oh, and there's even 
new stuff in here too.

1030
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:15,533
That's really impressive.

1031
00:39:15,533 --> 00:39:17,066
Yeah, these are tall men...

1032
00:39:17,066 --> 00:39:20,300
And a lot of times our big 
and tall men get left out

1033
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,600
because there's not a lot 
of inventory for them.

1034
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,833
So this is fantastic.

1035
00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:24,966
- Awesome.

1036
00:39:24,966 --> 00:39:27,033
Donating these 
clothes was a win-win.

1037
00:39:27,033 --> 00:39:28,600
I got them out of the garage

1038
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,400
and into the hands of someone 
who really needed them.

1039
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,300
- Columbus is very lucky 
to have the Urban League

1040
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:36,566
and your leadership 
and this program.

1041
00:39:36,566 --> 00:39:38,000
- This makes a difference 
when you're trying

1042
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,333
to get people out of 
generational poverty.

1043
00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:42,500
So we appreciate the 
county commissioners

1044
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,400
and a lot of the corporate 
community and folks who just...

1045
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,533
Even we have some old board 
members who came in last week.

1046
00:39:47,533 --> 00:39:49,366
I got some suits, right.

1047
00:39:49,366 --> 00:39:50,300
I'm retired now.

1048
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:51,366
Let me get rid of these suits

1049
00:39:51,366 --> 00:39:52,500
and put them in the right place.

1050
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:53,333
- Yeah. 
- That's great.

1051
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:54,133
- That's amazing.

1052
00:39:58,333 --> 00:40:00,633
(upbeat music)

1053
00:40:00,633 --> 00:40:02,133
- We're going through the garage

1054
00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:04,900
and there are still Legacy 
List items to be found.

1055
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:06,700
We weren't having much 
luck in the house.

1056
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:11,200
So with the clock winding 
down, we pulled in everybody.

1057
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,600
The whole family was there.

1058
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,666
We were determined 
to get this done.

1059
00:40:14,666 --> 00:40:17,400
(paper rustling)

1060
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:21,800
- That is awesome.

1061
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,200
- The garage was a 
really big emotional job

1062
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
and thank goodness Mike 
and his team were there

1063
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,366
because they really were 
able to focus in with Cheryl

1064
00:40:28,366 --> 00:40:30,233
and get a lot done 
in the garage.

1065
00:40:38,833 --> 00:40:41,800
(upbeat music)

1066
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,533
You can read a line about coach 
Cleamons as a professional,

1067
00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:46,100
but I wanted to get to know 
a little more about him

1068
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:46,866
as a person.

1069
00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:50,100
I was really lucky to meet 
with his old college teammate,

1070
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,600
JT at St. John arena, where 
they played basketball.

1071
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,133
St. John arena.

1072
00:40:55,133 --> 00:40:58,166
So it's been a few years 
since you've been here.

1073
00:40:58,166 --> 00:40:59,433
- Over half of my life.

1074
00:40:59,433 --> 00:41:00,833
What you mean it's 
been a few years?

1075
00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:02,033
- More than half of your life.

1076
00:41:02,033 --> 00:41:02,866
- Yes, indeed.

1077
00:41:02,866 --> 00:41:04,333
50 something years.

1078
00:41:04,333 --> 00:41:06,866
- Obviously we're not 
playing ball here anymore.

1079
00:41:06,866 --> 00:41:08,233
They've got teams practicing.

1080
00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:09,700
- Right, yeah.

1081
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,333
- I've been spending the 
last couple of days with Jim

1082
00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:13,333
and he's quiet.

1083
00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:14,766
He's humble.

1084
00:41:14,766 --> 00:41:17,366
And then you get these pockets 
of just like intensity.

1085
00:41:17,366 --> 00:41:20,466
- Oh, he's smart.

1086
00:41:20,466 --> 00:41:21,900
- Super smart. 
- Smart.

1087
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,333
- When we were going 
through his garage

1088
00:41:23,333 --> 00:41:25,866
we found a lot of his 
practice notes from the NBA.

1089
00:41:25,866 --> 00:41:27,866
And this dude cares 
more about practice

1090
00:41:27,866 --> 00:41:28,700
than he does about the game. 
- Oh, yeah.

1091
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:31,100
Cleamon was the same.

1092
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,500
He practiced hard, 
he played hard.

1093
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:35,266
I think that's what got 
the respect of the guys

1094
00:41:35,266 --> 00:41:36,933
'cause you didn't settle down.

1095
00:41:36,933 --> 00:41:38,833
When Clem was on 
your defense wide,

1096
00:41:38,833 --> 00:41:39,933
you had to be ready.

1097
00:41:39,933 --> 00:41:40,900
You had to be ready.

1098
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,200
That's how he'd always been.

1099
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,700
'Cause it seemed like 
he always had a plan.

1100
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,266
- We're finding notes on like, 
you know, Pippen, Jordan.

1101
00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:47,933
I mean some of the 
best players ever,

1102
00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:50,100
and he's writing notes 
on how to talk to them.

1103
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,233
Not necessarily 
what the play is.

1104
00:41:53,233 --> 00:41:54,533
- I think early on,

1105
00:41:54,533 --> 00:41:56,166
he was always grooming 
us how to be a coach.

1106
00:41:56,166 --> 00:41:57,433
That's what coaches used to do.

1107
00:41:57,433 --> 00:41:59,366
Clem was a general on the floor.

1108
00:41:59,366 --> 00:42:01,433
- He was the boss. 
- He was general on the floor.

1109
00:42:01,433 --> 00:42:02,700
No question about it.

1110
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:03,833
He knew everybody, where 
it's going, everything.

1111
00:42:03,833 --> 00:42:05,300
So this is during the game.

1112
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:06,466
Smart.

1113
00:42:06,466 --> 00:42:07,700
He just took care of business.

1114
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:09,200
That's what he did. 
- That's awesome.

1115
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,633
Well, everything you're 
saying adds up to the guy

1116
00:42:11,633 --> 00:42:12,666
we're talking about.

1117
00:42:12,666 --> 00:42:14,166
- Oh, yeah.

1118
00:42:14,166 --> 00:42:16,200
- It was really cool to 
walk in the St John Arena

1119
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,933
and see Jim's picture 
up on the wall

1120
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:21,900
with all these 
accolades and awards.

1121
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:23,900
This is a show about legacy

1122
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:26,633
and rarely do I meet 
a living legacy.

1123
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,633
(upbeat music ends)

1124
00:42:35,433 --> 00:42:37,800
(slow music)

1125
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:48,800
All right.

1126
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,433
We are here a few days 
later, very long days.

1127
00:42:53,533 --> 00:42:55,800
You all have moved so much.

1128
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,100
I think packing is a lot 
easier than unpacking,

1129
00:42:59,333 --> 00:43:01,866
but we came here to help 
you clean out the garage

1130
00:43:01,866 --> 00:43:03,100
to kind of get that jumpstart.

1131
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,800
And I'm happy to say 
we achieved that.

1132
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,666
- I realized early on 
that we needed help.

1133
00:43:14,166 --> 00:43:16,900
The magnitude of what you 
guys have done to help us,

1134
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:19,300
all the work that you 
and your crew has done

1135
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:20,500
has been just remarkable.

1136
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:22,733
So we're very appreciative.

1137
00:43:22,733 --> 00:43:25,733
- We appreciate you 
guys letting us in here.

1138
00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:27,033
Let's not look over the fact

1139
00:43:27,033 --> 00:43:31,666
I got to hold 10 
championship rings this week.

1140
00:43:32,566 --> 00:43:33,066
For me, that's really cool.

1141
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,366
I like that I don't 
see, you know...

1142
00:43:36,366 --> 00:43:38,100
Your whole life's 
not about that.

1143
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:40,400
You know, you were 
gone, how many years?

1144
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,600
It's decades, right?

1145
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,066
- Yep.

1146
00:43:43,066 --> 00:43:44,300
- Two decades.

1147
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:46,500
- You've been gone 
20 years working

1148
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,033
and you work those 20 
years to retire together.

1149
00:43:50,233 --> 00:43:53,033
You just keep coming 
up as the glue, right.

1150
00:43:53,033 --> 00:43:54,066
So I wrote a couple 
of labels down

1151
00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:55,933
and I forgot to list here.

1152
00:43:55,933 --> 00:43:57,433
- Okay. 
- I've got wife.

1153
00:43:57,433 --> 00:43:58,200
I've got mom.

1154
00:43:59,366 --> 00:44:00,900
I got videographer.

1155
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:05,133
I've got cook, homeworker, 
and of course, we got dancer.

1156
00:44:05,133 --> 00:44:05,933
- Yeah.

1157
00:44:07,233 --> 00:44:08,566
- [Matt] I love this picture. 
- [Cheryl] Do you?

1158
00:44:08,566 --> 00:44:10,066
- [Matt] Fierce. 
- [Cheryl] Yeah?

1159
00:44:10,066 --> 00:44:11,333
- You're going at it.

1160
00:44:11,333 --> 00:44:13,700
- Yeah, I haven't 
seen that in a while.

1161
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,133
- What are you thinking?

1162
00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:18,033
- Well, he's right there 
on the sideline watching.

1163
00:44:18,033 --> 00:44:20,466
(laughing)

1164
00:44:20,466 --> 00:44:22,366
- I saw Cheryl,

1165
00:44:22,366 --> 00:44:26,433
my first night as assistant 
coach for the Chicago Bulls.

1166
00:44:26,433 --> 00:44:28,366
I'm there for a job too.

1167
00:44:28,366 --> 00:44:32,466
And so she just my eye, 
but I'm there to work

1168
00:44:32,466 --> 00:44:35,266
and she's doing her 
job and that was it.

1169
00:44:36,166 --> 00:44:37,100
- [Matt] I love it.

1170
00:44:40,566 --> 00:44:41,700
- All right, you'd asked me

1171
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:42,833
to find your 
grandmother's quilt.

1172
00:44:42,833 --> 00:44:44,100
- Yes.

1173
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,466
- We found a quilt, but 
it's a well-used quilt.

1174
00:44:47,466 --> 00:44:48,533
- Yes, it is.

1175
00:44:48,533 --> 00:44:49,466
- It's homemade.

1176
00:44:49,466 --> 00:44:50,833
- Do you remember this quilt?

1177
00:44:50,833 --> 00:44:51,633
- I do.

1178
00:44:52,933 --> 00:44:55,600
This would be my 
biological father's mother.

1179
00:44:57,166 --> 00:45:00,200
I think she stitched 
every article of 
clothing that she had.

1180
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,066
She and her sister, 
they would quilt

1181
00:45:03,066 --> 00:45:04,700
and they would cut 
little patterns

1182
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:09,566
and save little pieces 
of fabrics from curtains

1183
00:45:09,566 --> 00:45:12,266
or, you know, just scraps 
that they would find

1184
00:45:12,266 --> 00:45:17,233
and you know, just 
create pieces of love.

1185
00:45:18,566 --> 00:45:20,100
- This was a simple 
item, but I love it

1186
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,966
because you grab it 
and you can hug it

1187
00:45:23,166 --> 00:45:24,200
and you can think 
of your family.

1188
00:45:27,233 --> 00:45:30,266
All right, the next item 
you guys asked us to find

1189
00:45:32,333 --> 00:45:33,333
was the brooms.

1190
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,333
- Look at you.

1191
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,966
I explained to you a 
little bit of the history

1192
00:45:39,966 --> 00:45:42,100
about what jumping 
the broom means.

1193
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:44,900
So when Jim and I 
wed we were older.

1194
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:46,633
Late bloomers that we are.

1195
00:45:46,633 --> 00:45:48,200
We were the only 
two that stood up.

1196
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,100
We didn't have a best 
man or a maid of honor

1197
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:51,633
or matron of honor.

1198
00:45:51,633 --> 00:45:55,666
So the two people that would 
have been those surprised us

1199
00:45:55,666 --> 00:45:57,266
with the brooms.

1200
00:45:57,266 --> 00:45:58,666
- Oh, that's cool.

1201
00:45:58,666 --> 00:45:59,800
- So yes.

1202
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,833
- So one represents...

1203
00:46:01,833 --> 00:46:04,733
- The gentleman that would 
have been Jim's best man

1204
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:06,066
and the other one 
is from the woman

1205
00:46:06,066 --> 00:46:08,000
that would have been 
my matron of honor.

1206
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,900
Somewhere there's a picture 
of us jumping in mid air.

1207
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:12,166
- Yeah.

1208
00:46:12,166 --> 00:46:13,400
Not only did we find 
the wedding brooms,

1209
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,500
but we also found 
the wedding picture

1210
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:17,666
after a bunch of searching.

1211
00:46:17,666 --> 00:46:19,166
It was very well packed.

1212
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:21,000
Almost hidden.

1213
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:24,600
We didn't find it until a 
few minutes ago honestly.

1214
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,766
(all laughing)

1215
00:46:25,766 --> 00:46:27,233
- I believe it.

1216
00:46:27,233 --> 00:46:31,300
- I loved that your wedding 
brooms were a part of your list.

1217
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:33,300
Where will these 
go in this house?

1218
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,333
- Well, probably hang 
them over the entries.

1219
00:46:36,333 --> 00:46:39,566
Yeah, because they're 
there to bring good fortune

1220
00:46:39,566 --> 00:46:42,200
and good energy and 
spirit into the home.

1221
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,433
- I like it.

1222
00:46:43,433 --> 00:46:47,233
And at the end of 
the day is a family.

1223
00:46:47,233 --> 00:46:49,133
- And that's a very 
special picture.

1224
00:46:49,133 --> 00:46:53,133
- Yeah, that's my dad's 
first visit to Disneyland.

1225
00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:55,866
That's one of my favorite 
family pictures of us all.

1226
00:46:55,866 --> 00:46:56,966
- [Cheryl] It was a good day.

1227
00:46:56,966 --> 00:46:58,300
- It was a really good day.

1228
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:02,400
- Well, let's go over 
what we didn't find.

1229
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,766
We didn't find a lot 
of things, actually.

1230
00:47:06,166 --> 00:47:08,400
We didn't find everything 
and that makes sense

1231
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,233
because this family has 
moved over 10 times.

1232
00:47:11,233 --> 00:47:14,066
Lots of times stuff 
gets lost in a move.

1233
00:47:14,066 --> 00:47:15,533
Didn't find the dance shoes.

1234
00:47:17,066 --> 00:47:18,333
I found some of your plays.

1235
00:47:18,333 --> 00:47:20,633
I didn't find, I think, 
full playbooks books,

1236
00:47:20,633 --> 00:47:22,800
but I did find some books

1237
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,700
They had your notes in them 
and I didn't find your pendant.

1238
00:47:27,133 --> 00:47:28,266
Don't mean they're 
not out there.

1239
00:47:28,266 --> 00:47:29,800
- That's true.

1240
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,266
- We did find something today 
that we didn't expect to find.

1241
00:47:33,833 --> 00:47:34,666
- Know what this is?

1242
00:47:34,666 --> 00:47:35,700
- Do not.

1243
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:37,133
- All right.

1244
00:47:37,133 --> 00:47:38,133
- I think I do.

1245
00:47:38,133 --> 00:47:39,133
- You know what this is?

1246
00:47:39,133 --> 00:47:40,400
- Yeah.

1247
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,366
- This is basically 
like a keepsake box

1248
00:47:41,366 --> 00:47:42,933
of your older sister.

1249
00:47:42,933 --> 00:47:43,866
- Yeah.

1250
00:47:43,866 --> 00:47:45,333
- What do you remember about it?

1251
00:47:45,333 --> 00:47:49,066
- This is like during 
the era of the playhouse

1252
00:47:49,066 --> 00:47:50,266
and everything.

1253
00:47:50,266 --> 00:47:52,300
So we are going through 
inspirational quotes

1254
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:55,066
and things that we thought 
would make us smile

1255
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,900
and make us imagine and dream.

1256
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:00,700
I don't know what 
she put in it per se,

1257
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:04,500
but I do remember seeing 
the box always in her room.

1258
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,733
- You've got quotes

1259
00:48:05,733 --> 00:48:08,166
from arguably one of 
the best movies ever.

1260
00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:09,400
"Coming to America".

1261
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,333
- We were young watching that.

1262
00:48:11,333 --> 00:48:12,600
- And Ralph Waldo Emerson.

1263
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,300
I'll let you read one.

1264
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,866
- "Happiness is a perfume 
you cannot pour on others

1265
00:48:19,866 --> 00:48:23,766
without getting a few 
drops on yourself."

1266
00:48:23,766 --> 00:48:27,500
- Your children are putting 
positive in front of them,

1267
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,033
setting goals and it's so cool

1268
00:48:30,033 --> 00:48:34,400
to see how your daughters 
put that into their lives.

1269
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,633
I mean, it's a 
show about legacy.

1270
00:48:36,633 --> 00:48:38,666
What do you think 
your legacy really is?

1271
00:48:38,666 --> 00:48:39,766
Is it rings?

1272
00:48:39,766 --> 00:48:40,900
- No, no.

1273
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:42,266
- What is it?

1274
00:48:42,266 --> 00:48:44,100
- We have, you know, our quilt.

1275
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,800
It represents love and security.

1276
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,800
Okay, we have brooms 
that represent good vibes

1277
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:54,066
and you know, clean house.

1278
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,100
- Well, we donated an enormous 
amount of clothes today.

1279
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,266
- We donated an 
enormous amount, yes.

1280
00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:03,000
- People will be wearing those 
suits tomorrow, all right.

1281
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,566
And they're going to 
get jobs interviews.

1282
00:49:04,566 --> 00:49:07,133
They're going to get 
their life back on track.

1283
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,800
- You know, we're so 
fortunate and really blessed

1284
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,766
that between Imani and Rose, 
they're the next generation

1285
00:49:18,533 --> 00:49:22,266
and hopefully what 
we pass on to them,

1286
00:49:22,266 --> 00:49:27,233
they'll be able to pass 
on to their families.

1287
00:49:31,666 --> 00:49:33,166
- This was an item we did find.

1288
00:49:34,266 --> 00:49:35,566
You know what this is?

1289
00:49:35,566 --> 00:49:37,066
- Yes, I think so.

1290
00:49:37,066 --> 00:49:41,700
- This is the scrapbook 
that you asked us to find.

1291
00:49:42,466 --> 00:49:44,066
It has been weathered.

1292
00:49:44,066 --> 00:49:45,000
You were not kidding.

1293
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,833
This is an extensive book.

1294
00:49:46,833 --> 00:49:48,300
It is amazing that somebody

1295
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:52,066
that was not family 
did this for you.

1296
00:49:52,066 --> 00:49:55,066
For him, the thing 
that he liked the most

1297
00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:56,933
was that scrapbook.

1298
00:49:56,933 --> 00:50:00,000
I think it was a personal 
gift and it was something

1299
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,800
that someone worked 
really hard to make.

1300
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,733
And you can really see 
the emotion in Jim's eyes.

1301
00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:06,300
He was really just happy.

1302
00:50:09,233 --> 00:50:11,266
You have some amazing things up.

1303
00:50:11,266 --> 00:50:15,033
You've got unlimited 
autographs of amazing athletes.

1304
00:50:15,033 --> 00:50:16,533
But to you, they're friends.

1305
00:50:16,533 --> 00:50:20,233
You got some game balls that 
are absolutely incredible

1306
00:50:20,233 --> 00:50:21,833
that people have 
only read about.

1307
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,566
I mean, I was looking 
at some game balls

1308
00:50:25,566 --> 00:50:29,900
and then found a Shaq Jersey.

1309
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:34,900
It's a little big and it's 
autographed, you know.

1310
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:36,433
An autographed Shaq jersey.

1311
00:50:36,433 --> 00:50:38,300
All right, you're just 
like, yeah, whatever.

1312
00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:39,200
- Yeah.

1313
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,333
When you're like eight

1314
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:43,233
and you walk up 
and meet Pau Gasol

1315
00:50:43,233 --> 00:50:46,666
and you're like, 
hi, you're tall.

1316
00:50:46,666 --> 00:50:47,900
That's all you get.

1317
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:49,900
- I found a picture 
of your sister,

1318
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:52,166
or you, being held 
by Phil Jackson.

1319
00:50:52,166 --> 00:50:53,166
- That was my sister.

1320
00:50:53,166 --> 00:50:54,000
I was like, what.

1321
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,266
That's Phil Jackson.

1322
00:50:55,266 --> 00:50:57,333
- I mean we found 
so many cool things.

1323
00:50:57,333 --> 00:50:58,466
I found this.

1324
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:00,933
This is your...

1325
00:51:00,933 --> 00:51:01,866
We're tiny back here.

1326
00:51:01,866 --> 00:51:03,233
This is our last item, okay.

1327
00:51:03,233 --> 00:51:04,633
This was not on your list.

1328
00:51:04,633 --> 00:51:06,266
This was on my Legacy List.

1329
00:51:06,266 --> 00:51:07,066
- Okay.

1330
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:09,366
I love this.

1331
00:51:09,366 --> 00:51:11,166
This is a Lakers.

1332
00:51:11,166 --> 00:51:12,666
- A cookout.

1333
00:51:12,666 --> 00:51:13,900
They were putting together 
a cookbook or something.

1334
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:15,166
- I think he's got to tell us.

1335
00:51:15,166 --> 00:51:16,400
- Oh, okay. 
Just hold on.

1336
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,200
- I collect very 
random cookbooks.

1337
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,700
- Do you really? 
- I do.

1338
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:24,000
- With my career I have 
a few random collections.

1339
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,100
I love flat pennies 
and weird cookbooks.

1340
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:30,500
And I actually had a 
cookbook for the LA Lakers

1341
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:32,200
that Jim and Cheryl were in.

1342
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,733
- You have that...

1343
00:51:33,733 --> 00:51:34,933
You did not get that 
out of my kitchen?

1344
00:51:34,933 --> 00:51:37,100
- No, this is mine. 
(Cheryl laughs)

1345
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:38,533
- [Cheryl] What are the odds?

1346
00:51:38,533 --> 00:51:39,900
- Swear to God.

1347
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:41,766
This is mine that I 
brought from home.

1348
00:51:44,266 --> 00:51:45,566
- Oh, yeah.

1349
00:51:45,566 --> 00:51:47,900
- And there and behold.

1350
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:49,100
- There you are.

1351
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,066
- You're in there too.

1352
00:51:50,066 --> 00:51:50,766
- [Cheryl] I forgot about that.

1353
00:51:50,766 --> 00:51:52,033
- There you are.

1354
00:51:52,033 --> 00:51:54,066
Y'all are in a random 
cook book I've got.

1355
00:51:54,066 --> 00:51:56,366
- A random cook 
book that you have.

1356
00:51:56,366 --> 00:51:57,666
(laughing)

1357
00:51:57,666 --> 00:51:59,633
- As silly as this is, 
it wraps it up for me.

1358
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,066
Yeah, you've had a crazy career

1359
00:52:03,766 --> 00:52:06,400
and you have 
supported all of this.

1360
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,333
Raised your children.

1361
00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:08,800
You guys somehow made it work,

1362
00:52:10,233 --> 00:52:11,900
but you're still just a family.

1363
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:14,866
- And that's a pretty 
representative picture of...

1364
00:52:14,866 --> 00:52:16,533
- Yeah. 
- Yeah.

1365
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:17,666
- Yeah. 
- Yeah.

1366
00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:21,400
- A lot of people 
are going through

1367
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,900
what y'all going 
through right now.

1368
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:24,766
Downsizing, but 
more importantly,

1369
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,233
someone's been on the 
road for a long time

1370
00:52:28,233 --> 00:52:30,200
and now someone's coming home.

1371
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,733
What kind of advice can 
you give to families

1372
00:52:31,733 --> 00:52:32,966
that are going through it?

1373
00:52:32,966 --> 00:52:36,966
- The downsizing, 
do it together.

1374
00:52:36,966 --> 00:52:38,000
I'd say that.

1375
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:42,266
When that person comes 
home for retiring,

1376
00:52:42,266 --> 00:52:45,233
that that's a good 
activity to do together.

1377
00:52:46,766 --> 00:52:50,433
I think your team, they 
have the best idea.

1378
00:52:50,433 --> 00:52:51,933
Ground rules.

1379
00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:54,133
Not just for downsizing,

1380
00:52:54,133 --> 00:52:57,000
but ground rules for there's 
somebody in the house

1381
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,766
all day long when you've 
been the stay-at-home mom

1382
00:53:00,766 --> 00:53:02,500
and you know, this 
has been your job.

1383
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:03,966
And now all of a sudden

1384
00:53:03,966 --> 00:53:06,800
there's a colleague in 
your kitchen all the time.

1385
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,233
You know, ground rules

1386
00:53:08,233 --> 00:53:10,233
and you just establish 
the ground rules.

1387
00:53:10,233 --> 00:53:15,200
And you know, for us, I think 
what you said, we communicate.

1388
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:17,533
- And you can take your time.

1389
00:53:17,533 --> 00:53:18,800
It took 20 years to 
accumulate all this stuff.

1390
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,200
And I could go 
through it in a week.

1391
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,333
That's not realistic, you know.

1392
00:53:23,333 --> 00:53:24,966
And not to borrow 
from sports theme,

1393
00:53:24,966 --> 00:53:28,000
but y'all didn't 
build championship 
teams in one season.

1394
00:53:29,666 --> 00:53:34,166
It takes time and y'all are 
actually doing a really good job

1395
00:53:35,333 --> 00:53:36,700
compared to a lot of my clients.

1396
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:39,166
- We're grateful 
that you helped us.

1397
00:53:39,166 --> 00:53:40,400
- But for the first time ever,

1398
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,100
you don't have to worry 
about packing back up.

1399
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,266
You can finally unpack.

1400
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:54,533
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1403
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1426
00:55:08,533 --> 00:55:13,500
♪ All I want

1427
00:55:14,733 --> 00:55:19,366
♪ And all I ever think 
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1428
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,966
♪ Please come here to me

1429
00:55:27,166 --> 00:55:31,466
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1430
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:35,333
- Yeah, that's a Rose original.

1431
00:55:35,333 --> 00:55:37,833
- Yeah. 
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