WEBVTT 00:00.833 --> 00:01.500 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% On the record 00:01.500 --> 00:02.166 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% is brought to 00:02.166 --> 00:06.000 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% you by Steve and Adele Dufilho. 00:08.233 --> 00:10.033 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% San Antonio is a fast 00:10.033 --> 00:10.966 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% growing, fast 00:10.966 --> 00:11.966 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% moving community 00:11.966 --> 00:13.766 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% with something new happening 00:13.766 --> 00:14.933 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% every day. 00:14.933 --> 00:16.100 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% That's why each week 00:16.100 --> 00:17.833 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% we go on the record 00:17.833 --> 00:19.166 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% with the news makers 00:19.166 --> 00:21.166 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% who are driving this change. 00:21.166 --> 00:23.200 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Then we gather at the Reporters 00:23.200 --> 00:24.433 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Roundtable to talk about 00:24.433 --> 00:25.833 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% the latest news stories 00:25.833 --> 00:27.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% with the journalists 00:27.066 --> 00:28.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% behind those stories. 00:28.833 --> 00:31.433 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Join us now as we go on the. 00:40.800 --> 00:41.366 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Hi, everybody. 00:41.366 --> 00:42.166 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I'm Randi Beamer, 00:42.166 --> 00:43.200 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and thank you for joining us 00:43.200 --> 00:44.266 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% for this edition of 00:44.266 --> 00:45.166 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% On the Record 00:45.166 --> 00:45.466 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% as we're 00:45.466 --> 00:46.766 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% finally getting a break 00:46.766 --> 00:48.133 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% from the heat. 00:48.133 --> 00:48.733 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% The city of San 00:48.733 --> 00:49.766 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Antonio is deciding 00:49.766 --> 00:51.200 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% how to spend some money 00:51.200 --> 00:52.533 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% that we made, 00:52.533 --> 00:54.066 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% basically the city made 00:54.066 --> 00:55.800 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% because it was so hot. 00:55.800 --> 00:56.700 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Joining us to talk about 00:56.700 --> 00:58.500 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% that is Councilman Mario Bravo. 00:58.500 --> 00:59.166 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% District one. 00:59.166 --> 00:59.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Thank you very much 00:59.800 --> 01:00.833 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% for coming in. 01:00.833 --> 01:01.566 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% First of all, people 01:01.566 --> 01:02.266 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% might wonder, wait, 01:02.266 --> 01:04.033 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% how do we make extra money? 01:04.033 --> 01:06.400 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% CPS made so much extra money 01:06.700 --> 01:08.266 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% because of all of this. 01:08.266 --> 01:10.266 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Heat. $50 million. 01:10.266 --> 01:12.800 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Well, you know, CPS energy 01:12.800 --> 01:14.033 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% has to charge more 01:14.033 --> 01:15.366 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% when they have to pay more 01:15.366 --> 01:16.133 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% for their fuels. 01:16.133 --> 01:16.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Natural gas 01:16.733 --> 01:18.266 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% prices are twice as high 01:18.266 --> 01:18.900 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% this year, 01:18.900 --> 01:19.666 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% this summer than they 01:19.666 --> 01:20.633 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% were a year ago. 01:20.633 --> 01:22.833 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% So that's an added factor. 01:22.833 --> 01:24.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Another added factor is 01:24.500 --> 01:25.166 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% that people 01:25.166 --> 01:26.000 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% are using more energy 01:26.000 --> 01:27.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% because it's been hotter. 01:27.200 --> 01:28.233 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% You know, 01:28.466 --> 01:30.233 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% a usual July in San Antonio, 01:30.233 --> 01:31.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% we have about two to two days 01:31.566 --> 01:32.066 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% that are hundred 01:32.066 --> 01:33.000 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% degrees or hotter. 01:33.000 --> 01:34.666 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% This July, we had 17 days 01:34.666 --> 01:35.166 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that were a hundred 01:35.166 --> 01:36.033 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% degrees or hotter. 01:36.033 --> 01:37.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% It's actually the hottest. 01:37.433 --> 01:38.700 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Summer on record in 01:38.700 --> 01:39.600 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% San Antonio. 01:39.600 --> 01:40.733 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% It's just 01:40.733 --> 01:41.333 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% not something 01:41.333 --> 01:42.000 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that should be passed 01:42.000 --> 01:43.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% on to consumers 01:43.000 --> 01:45.366 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% as they get those. 01:45.366 --> 01:47.733 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% As CPS Energy has the costs 01:47.733 --> 01:48.133 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that they could 01:48.133 --> 01:49.066 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% automatically pass 01:49.066 --> 01:49.933 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% that on 01:49.933 --> 01:50.566 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% to consumers 01:50.566 --> 01:51.733 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% instead of whatever percentage 01:51.733 --> 01:52.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that they're getting, 01:52.333 --> 01:53.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% they're still taking it. 01:53.466 --> 01:55.000 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% Well, CPS energy, 01:55.000 --> 01:57.100 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% you know, has to charge the 01:57.100 --> 01:58.266 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% they have a set rate 01:58.266 --> 01:59.833 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and then they have a fuel cost. 01:59.833 --> 02:00.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And so those two are 02:00.833 --> 02:02.200 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% what the customer sees 02:02.200 --> 02:03.333 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and pays. 02:03.533 --> 02:04.900 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% I think when we talk about 02:04.900 --> 02:05.966 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% the additional 50 million 02:05.966 --> 02:06.633 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% in revenue 02:06.633 --> 02:07.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that's what the city 02:07.333 --> 02:09.533 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% gets because the city gets 14% 02:09.533 --> 02:10.433 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% of all revenues 02:10.433 --> 02:11.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% that go into CPS energy 02:11.500 --> 02:13.366 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% because the city invested into 02:13.366 --> 02:14.966 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% CPS energy and owns them. 02:14.966 --> 02:15.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% And so the big question 02:15.933 --> 02:17.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% is, should customers 02:17.333 --> 02:18.933 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% get that money back 02:18.933 --> 02:20.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% since basically 02:20.000 --> 02:21.333 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% it's extra money 02:21.333 --> 02:23.266 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that the city has or 02:23.266 --> 02:23.633 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% the city 02:23.633 --> 02:24.200 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% has to figure out 02:24.200 --> 02:24.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% how to deal with that. 02:24.900 --> 02:26.266 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% And you have a 02:26.266 --> 02:27.400 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and the answer for that. 02:27.400 --> 02:28.700 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% I do have an answer for that. 02:28.700 --> 02:29.600 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% So one proposal 02:29.600 --> 02:30.166 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that's been put on 02:30.166 --> 02:30.966 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% the table is 02:30.966 --> 02:32.633 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% do we just 02:32.700 --> 02:33.466 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% do we give back 02:33.466 --> 02:35.066 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% some of this excess revenue 02:35.066 --> 02:36.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% and the average 02:36.700 --> 02:37.966 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% ratepayer would get 02:37.966 --> 02:39.433 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% a rebate on one bill, 02:39.433 --> 02:40.633 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% one time, 3 million. 02:40.633 --> 02:41.133 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% Dollars. 02:41.133 --> 02:42.666 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% On average, it would be $31. 02:42.666 --> 02:43.433 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% There's 40 companies 02:43.433 --> 02:43.900 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that would get over 02:43.900 --> 02:45.133 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% 100,001 company 02:45.133 --> 02:46.500 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% that would get $1,000,000 back. 02:46.500 --> 02:47.066 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Right. 02:47.400 --> 02:49.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% But what my plan does 02:49.700 --> 02:51.000 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% is it recognizes 02:51.000 --> 02:52.100 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that the only reason 02:52.100 --> 02:54.100 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% we have this additional revenue 02:54.100 --> 02:54.566 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% is because 02:54.566 --> 02:55.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% we've had an extremely 02:55.500 --> 02:56.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% hot summer 02:56.733 --> 02:57.600 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% we can expect 02:57.600 --> 02:58.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% to have more of these. 02:58.933 --> 03:00.066 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% So we're going to have these 03:00.066 --> 03:01.100 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% more challenging bills 03:01.100 --> 03:02.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% in the future. 03:02.000 --> 03:03.033 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% We're going to have this 03:03.033 --> 03:04.366 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% these excess temperatures. 03:04.366 --> 03:06.466 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Let's use that excess revenue 03:06.466 --> 03:07.933 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% to address that problem. 03:07.933 --> 03:09.266 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% How are you going to do that? 03:09.266 --> 03:09.766 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% You have it in 03:09.766 --> 03:11.100 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% different buckets in terms 03:11.100 --> 03:12.033 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% of how you want to spend 03:12.033 --> 03:13.200 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that money, that 50 million. 03:13.200 --> 03:13.933 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Yeah, I do. 03:13.933 --> 03:15.100 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% And so one bucket 03:15.100 --> 03:16.633 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% is weatherization 03:16.633 --> 03:18.600 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% for low income homes, right? 03:18.600 --> 03:19.200 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% A lot of people have 03:19.200 --> 03:20.133 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% drafty homes, 03:20.133 --> 03:21.400 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and so their energy bills 03:21.400 --> 03:22.933 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% are going to be a lot higher, 03:22.933 --> 03:24.100 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% whether it's really cold 03:24.100 --> 03:25.200 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% or really hot. 03:25.200 --> 03:26.166 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Let's protect them. 03:26.166 --> 03:27.233 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Against high energy bills 03:27.233 --> 03:28.066 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% going forward 03:28.066 --> 03:29.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% by weatherizing their homes 03:29.433 --> 03:30.266 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% or helping them 03:30.266 --> 03:31.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% with energy efficiency 03:31.500 --> 03:32.166 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% upgrades. 03:32.166 --> 03:33.200 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% It's the same thing 03:33.200 --> 03:35.033 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that is being offered 03:35.033 --> 03:36.200 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% with the inflation reduction 03:36.200 --> 03:38.066 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% act right now, 03:38.066 --> 03:40.033 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% but those are only that is 03:40.033 --> 03:40.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% for you to be eligible 03:40.933 --> 03:41.533 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% for that. 03:41.533 --> 03:42.366 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% You actually have 03:42.366 --> 03:44.266 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% to have a high income and you 03:44.266 --> 03:44.700 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% you use 03:44.700 --> 03:46.333 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% a federal tax rebate for that 03:46.333 --> 03:47.600 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% so if you're low income, 03:47.600 --> 03:48.433 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% what do you do? 03:48.433 --> 03:49.000 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% Well, my 03:49.000 --> 03:51.066 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% this is this bucket in my plan 03:51.066 --> 03:52.600 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% would help those 03:52.600 --> 03:53.400 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% those individuals. 03:53.400 --> 03:54.300 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% And this is 03:54.300 --> 03:55.366 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% part of the city budget 03:56.500 --> 03:57.200 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% work that you're going 03:57.200 --> 03:57.966 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% through right now. 03:57.966 --> 03:59.466 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% During the 2023 budget 03:59.466 --> 04:01.233 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that we vote on in 04:01.233 --> 04:02.433 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% just a few weeks. 04:02.433 --> 04:03.100 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% And if we back up 04:03.100 --> 04:04.066 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% just to the average person 04:04.066 --> 04:04.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% who says, you know, 04:04.800 --> 04:05.633 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% that's great 04:05.633 --> 04:07.066 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% but put that in the budget 04:07.066 --> 04:07.766 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% elsewhere, 04:07.766 --> 04:08.533 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I could use that 04:08.533 --> 04:10.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% extra $31 back in my pocket. 04:10.566 --> 04:12.766 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And I think on it on face value 04:12.766 --> 04:13.466 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% that's fair 04:13.466 --> 04:15.133 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% that's reasonable to do 04:15.133 --> 04:15.766 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% but it doesn't 04:15.766 --> 04:17.500 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% solve our problem. Right. 04:17.500 --> 04:18.166 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% And so 04:18.166 --> 04:18.733 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% we're going to be 04:18.733 --> 04:19.900 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% in a situation 04:19.900 --> 04:20.400 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% where that where 04:20.400 --> 04:20.833 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% we're going to have 04:20.833 --> 04:21.733 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% excess revenues 04:21.733 --> 04:22.433 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% next winter 04:22.433 --> 04:23.966 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% because of the war in Ukraine, 04:23.966 --> 04:25.233 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% because of sky 04:25.233 --> 04:27.200 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% rocketing natural gas prices. 04:27.200 --> 04:28.366 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% If we have another heatwave, 04:28.366 --> 04:30.466 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% which is very likely next year, 04:30.466 --> 04:31.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% it might not be as bad. 04:31.500 --> 04:33.266 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% It might it might be worse. 04:33.266 --> 04:33.633 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% We're going to be 04:33.633 --> 04:34.533 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% in the same problem. 04:34.533 --> 04:35.000 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% And so we're 04:35.000 --> 04:36.366 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% just going to be coming 04:36.366 --> 04:36.566 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% you know, 04:36.566 --> 04:37.333 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% people are going to be having 04:37.333 --> 04:38.566 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% to be having this conversation 04:38.566 --> 04:39.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% over and over again. 04:39.366 --> 04:40.566 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Oh, we made too much 04:40.566 --> 04:41.900 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% money off energy. 04:41.900 --> 04:43.133 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Should we give a little back? 04:43.133 --> 04:43.666 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Should we give 04:43.666 --> 04:44.633 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% a little back instead? 04:44.633 --> 04:45.000 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Why don't we 04:45.000 --> 04:45.800 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% address the problem? 04:45.800 --> 04:46.566 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% And there are other ways 04:46.566 --> 04:47.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that you want to address this 04:47.566 --> 04:49.200 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% with more trees. 04:49.200 --> 04:50.366 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% We talk about the urban heat 04:50.366 --> 04:51.566 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% island effect. 04:51.566 --> 04:52.133 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% San Antonio 04:52.133 --> 04:52.866 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% has had it for years. 04:52.866 --> 04:54.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Every every city has it. 04:54.200 --> 04:55.500 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% But you think there are ways 04:55.500 --> 04:56.066 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that we can go 04:56.066 --> 04:57.800 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% about addressing that 04:57.800 --> 04:59.000 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% with some of this money? 04:59.000 --> 04:59.933 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Absolutely. 04:59.933 --> 05:01.366 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% You know, on a day 05:01.366 --> 05:02.733 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% when it might be 95 degrees 05:02.733 --> 05:03.733 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% in our surrounding areas, 05:03.733 --> 05:04.600 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% maybe in Petite 05:04.600 --> 05:06.133 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Seguin Castroville, 05:06.133 --> 05:07.333 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% it might be five, 05:07.333 --> 05:08.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% eight degrees hotter 05:08.366 --> 05:09.133 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% in San Antonio 05:09.133 --> 05:09.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% because we've cut down 05:09.900 --> 05:10.766 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% so many trees 05:10.766 --> 05:11.500 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% and replaced them 05:11.500 --> 05:13.700 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% with asphalt and concrete 05:13.700 --> 05:14.733 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% that heat up. 05:14.733 --> 05:16.366 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% If we start planting more trees 05:16.366 --> 05:17.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% back in our urban core, 05:17.900 --> 05:18.766 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% we can start cooling 05:18.766 --> 05:19.800 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% our city down. 05:19.800 --> 05:21.533 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% And then your air conditioner 05:21.533 --> 05:22.633 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% doesn't have to work as hard 05:22.633 --> 05:24.400 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and you better quality of life 05:24.400 --> 05:25.700 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% when you go out in the summer. 05:25.700 --> 05:27.366 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Now, where are the city 05:27.366 --> 05:28.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% council members on this 05:28.233 --> 05:28.933 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% right now? 05:29.033 --> 05:29.266 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% You know, 05:29.266 --> 05:30.700 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% we heard that they were split. 05:30.700 --> 05:32.166 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% It's hard to count votes 05:32.166 --> 05:33.366 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% and get a yay 05:33.366 --> 05:34.633 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% nay at this point, 05:34.633 --> 05:36.033 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% at least on this, 05:36.033 --> 05:36.933 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% which means I guess 05:36.933 --> 05:38.466 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% it's it's close. It's possible. 05:38.466 --> 05:39.633 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Where do you think you are 05:39.633 --> 05:40.500 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and get the support? 05:40.500 --> 05:41.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% We didn't have a lot 05:41.366 --> 05:41.933 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% of heads up 05:41.933 --> 05:42.566 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% that we were going to have 05:42.566 --> 05:43.766 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% this additional revenue. 05:43.766 --> 05:44.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And so people didn't 05:44.700 --> 05:45.500 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% have a lot of time 05:45.500 --> 05:47.466 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% to put together proposals. 05:47.466 --> 05:49.433 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% I will tell you at this point 05:49.433 --> 05:50.866 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% now my proposal 05:50.866 --> 05:51.733 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% has more traction 05:51.733 --> 05:52.233 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% than any other 05:52.233 --> 05:53.233 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% proposal out there. 05:54.200 --> 05:55.600 position:45% line:84.67% size:45% And 05:55.600 --> 05:56.300 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% I think it's 05:56.300 --> 05:57.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% something that people see 05:57.366 --> 05:58.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% as a reasonable plan. 05:58.700 --> 05:59.600 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% And we're getting support 05:59.600 --> 06:01.100 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% from outside of city council 06:01.100 --> 06:02.666 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% from a lot of 06:02.666 --> 06:03.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% other media 06:03.733 --> 06:05.533 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and other elected officials. 06:05.533 --> 06:06.100 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% What about 06:06.100 --> 06:07.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% the rest of the city 06:07.066 --> 06:07.933 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% budget in terms 06:07.933 --> 06:09.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% of spending on weatherization 06:09.566 --> 06:10.200 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and this kind of thing, 06:10.200 --> 06:11.966 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% preparing for higher natural 06:11.966 --> 06:12.800 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% gas bills? 06:12.800 --> 06:14.000 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% How much more is the city going 06:14.000 --> 06:14.966 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to spend on that? 06:14.966 --> 06:16.000 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% So aside 06:16.000 --> 06:16.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% from the 50 million you. 06:16.900 --> 06:17.266 position:42.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Want, 06:17.266 --> 06:19.133 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% so the city isn't 06:19.133 --> 06:20.133 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% spending on that. 06:20.133 --> 06:21.633 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% CPS Energy has a program 06:21.633 --> 06:22.533 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% that's been 06:23.000 --> 06:24.466 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% already authorized by council 06:24.466 --> 06:26.233 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to spend on that. 06:26.233 --> 06:26.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% But, you know, 06:26.700 --> 06:27.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% one opportunity we have 06:27.900 --> 06:28.800 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% is if the city does it, 06:28.800 --> 06:30.300 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% we can show CPS energy 06:30.300 --> 06:31.700 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% how we think it should be done. 06:31.700 --> 06:32.066 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Well, thanks 06:32.066 --> 06:33.033 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% very much for coming in. 06:33.033 --> 06:33.800 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% We appreciate it. 06:33.800 --> 06:34.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Let us know how that goes 06:34.900 --> 06:35.766 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% and when will the vote be, 06:35.766 --> 06:36.300 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% by the way, on. 06:36.300 --> 06:37.533 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% That September 15th. 06:37.533 --> 06:38.966 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% September 15th. 06:38.966 --> 06:40.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Mario Bravo, councilman 06:40.233 --> 06:41.600 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% for District one. Thanks. 06:41.600 --> 06:42.233 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Thanks for having me. 06:46.266 --> 06:47.233 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% What do you think should 06:47.233 --> 06:48.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% happen to the building 06:48.233 --> 06:49.000 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% that houses 06:49.000 --> 06:51.066 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% the Institute of Texan Cultures 06:51.066 --> 06:51.800 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% downtown? 06:51.800 --> 06:52.133 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Well, right 06:52.133 --> 06:53.400 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% now, UTSA 06:53.400 --> 06:54.266 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% is soliciting 06:54.266 --> 06:54.666 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% public 06:54.666 --> 06:55.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% input about 06:55.733 --> 06:56.933 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that as they decide 06:56.933 --> 06:58.466 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% the future for the building. 06:58.466 --> 06:59.666 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Joining us to talk about it 06:59.666 --> 07:00.800 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% is Kathy Rhodes, 07:00.800 --> 07:01.566 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% who is president 07:01.566 --> 07:02.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% of the San Antonio 07:02.300 --> 07:03.466 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Conservation Society. 07:03.466 --> 07:04.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Thank you for coming in. 07:04.466 --> 07:05.033 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Thank you. 07:05.033 --> 07:07.100 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And you have definite opinions 07:07.100 --> 07:08.100 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% on what should 07:08.100 --> 07:09.666 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and should not happen 07:09.666 --> 07:10.433 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to that building. 07:10.433 --> 07:11.133 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I've heard people 07:11.133 --> 07:13.400 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% say it's outdated. 07:13.400 --> 07:15.500 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% It's a big brick 07:15.666 --> 07:16.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% that is in 07:16.733 --> 07:18.300 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% the middle of a place 07:18.300 --> 07:19.400 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that could be turned into 07:19.400 --> 07:20.400 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% something beautiful 07:20.400 --> 07:21.966 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and very pedestrian friendly 07:21.966 --> 07:22.833 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% or a great place 07:22.833 --> 07:24.033 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% for development. 07:24.033 --> 07:24.833 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Why keep it? 07:24.833 --> 07:26.033 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% What do you tell them? 07:26.200 --> 07:27.233 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% It's it's 07:27.233 --> 07:29.000 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% a historic building now. 07:29.000 --> 07:30.433 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Anything built 07:30.433 --> 07:33.933 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% before 1970 to 50 years is 07:33.933 --> 07:36.033 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% historic plus that is 07:37.033 --> 07:38.266 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% a it was built as 07:38.266 --> 07:39.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% a permanent building. 07:39.700 --> 07:41.433 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% The walls are very thick. 07:41.433 --> 07:43.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% It's like a bunker almost 07:43.366 --> 07:44.600 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% it would be very difficult 07:44.600 --> 07:45.333 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% to tear down. 07:45.333 --> 07:47.066 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Now, some people say, well, the 07:47.066 --> 07:48.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% buildings from Hemisfair 07:48.466 --> 07:48.933 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% weren't 07:48.933 --> 07:50.800 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% built as permanent buildings. 07:50.800 --> 07:53.366 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% That one was by statute yes. 07:53.666 --> 07:54.233 position:42.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Yes. 07:54.233 --> 07:55.466 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% What was it 07:55.466 --> 07:57.666 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% originally then 07:57.666 --> 07:59.633 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% designed to do after. 07:59.633 --> 08:00.066 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% It was 08:00.066 --> 08:01.633 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% designed to be permanent. 08:01.633 --> 08:03.466 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% We have that is in the was. 08:03.466 --> 08:04.666 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Designed to be anything 08:04.666 --> 08:06.200 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% specific after. 08:06.200 --> 08:06.500 position:42.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% That, 08:06.500 --> 08:07.533 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I can't tell you, 08:07.533 --> 08:08.533 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% but it was a place 08:08.533 --> 08:09.433 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% for all cultures 08:09.433 --> 08:10.333 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to come together. 08:10.333 --> 08:11.066 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% So cultures 08:11.066 --> 08:12.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that helped settle Texas 08:12.200 --> 08:13.100 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to come together. 08:13.100 --> 08:13.966 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% What do you 08:13.966 --> 08:14.933 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% what do you say to those people 08:14.933 --> 08:16.566 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% who say it would cost 08:16.566 --> 08:17.800 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% a tremendous amount of money, 08:17.800 --> 08:20.666 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% millions of dollars to rehab it 08:21.200 --> 08:23.800 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and to get it up to code 08:23.800 --> 08:24.433 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% or speed 08:24.433 --> 08:26.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% to do to even a museum? 08:26.900 --> 08:28.600 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% I'd like to see the figures. 08:29.600 --> 08:30.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% I don't think those 08:30.300 --> 08:31.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% figures have been done yet. 08:31.433 --> 08:32.033 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% They may have 08:32.033 --> 08:33.466 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% and we not know about them, 08:33.466 --> 08:35.633 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% but we're the Conservation 08:35.633 --> 08:36.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Society is right now 08:36.833 --> 08:38.066 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% concerned about the building 08:38.066 --> 08:39.066 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% grades of school. 08:39.066 --> 08:40.200 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Kids have been there 08:40.200 --> 08:40.933 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% to be educated 08:40.933 --> 08:43.166 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% about Texas history. 08:43.533 --> 08:45.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% It's a tourism aspect from 08:45.433 --> 08:47.033 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% from a tourism side of people 08:47.033 --> 08:48.266 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% coming into town. 08:48.266 --> 08:50.133 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% It attracted a lot of visitors. 08:50.133 --> 08:51.233 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% So I don't know. 08:51.233 --> 08:52.533 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% I'm sure it was budget cuts 08:52.533 --> 08:53.233 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% and covered 08:53.233 --> 08:54.166 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and that sort of thing. 08:54.166 --> 08:55.266 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% I'm sure a lot of different 08:55.266 --> 08:56.200 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% things played into. 08:56.200 --> 08:57.233 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% And there have been articles 08:57.233 --> 08:58.400 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% written more recently 08:58.400 --> 08:59.600 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% in terms of tourism 08:59.600 --> 09:01.800 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% that it isn't the draw 09:02.133 --> 09:03.233 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% that it once was. 09:03.233 --> 09:03.900 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% You go down there 09:03.900 --> 09:04.333 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% and then that 09:04.333 --> 09:05.666 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% there's no one there. 09:05.666 --> 09:07.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% And even before COVID, 09:07.233 --> 09:09.100 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% their numbers were way, 09:09.100 --> 09:09.700 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% way down. 09:09.700 --> 09:10.700 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% Well, and part of 09:10.700 --> 09:12.366 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% it was keeping 09:12.366 --> 09:13.533 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% the exhibits modern 09:13.533 --> 09:14.233 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% and the dome show 09:14.233 --> 09:14.833 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% working and that. 09:14.833 --> 09:15.633 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% So I think 09:15.633 --> 09:16.833 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% it was just a confluence 09:16.833 --> 09:17.566 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% of different 09:17.566 --> 09:18.433 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% things that happened 09:18.433 --> 09:19.233 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% and it was probably 09:19.233 --> 09:20.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% nobody's fault. 09:20.000 --> 09:22.500 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% But what do you think 09:22.500 --> 09:23.266 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% is going to happen now 09:23.266 --> 09:24.400 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% with the input 09:24.400 --> 09:25.600 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% that they're soliciting 09:25.600 --> 09:27.233 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% from UTSA, 09:27.233 --> 09:28.333 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% they're going to decide 09:28.333 --> 09:29.233 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% what to do with that building, 09:29.233 --> 09:30.000 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% whether to sell it. 09:30.000 --> 09:31.300 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% There are different ideas 09:31.300 --> 09:31.900 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% of what to do, 09:31.900 --> 09:33.566 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% sell it and let somebody decide 09:33.566 --> 09:35.066 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% what to do with the building, 09:35.066 --> 09:35.833 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% tear it down, 09:35.833 --> 09:37.000 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% use it for a new space, 09:37.000 --> 09:38.400 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% for something for UTSA, 09:40.333 --> 09:40.800 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% which of 09:40.800 --> 09:42.500 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% those options to you 09:42.500 --> 09:44.000 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% is most feasible. 09:44.000 --> 09:45.466 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Well, I would like to keep it, 09:45.466 --> 09:46.700 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% but we received a letter 09:46.700 --> 09:47.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% a couple of weeks ago 09:47.700 --> 09:49.566 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% from the UTSA people, 09:49.566 --> 09:50.600 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and they have turned it 09:50.600 --> 09:51.233 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% over to, 09:51.233 --> 09:51.733 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I believe, their 09:51.733 --> 09:52.866 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% director of finance, 09:52.866 --> 09:53.700 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and they're going to further 09:53.700 --> 09:54.766 position:42.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% study 09:55.066 --> 09:55.966 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% all parts of it, 09:55.966 --> 09:57.633 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% including environmental impact 09:57.633 --> 09:59.566 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and those kind of things. 09:59.566 --> 10:01.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% So that report 10:01.000 --> 10:03.000 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% won't be released until May, 10:03.000 --> 10:04.566 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% according to their letter. 10:04.566 --> 10:05.200 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Now, in terms 10:05.200 --> 10:07.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% of keeping it as a museum 10:07.466 --> 10:08.333 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and some of the people 10:08.333 --> 10:09.866 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% we've talked to here 10:09.866 --> 10:12.300 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% say it is basically so dark 10:12.300 --> 10:14.000 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% and old 10:14.000 --> 10:16.100 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% in terms of its facilities 10:16.100 --> 10:17.766 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that you would have 10:17.766 --> 10:19.133 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% to basically 10:19.133 --> 10:20.366 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% gut the building 10:20.366 --> 10:23.200 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% from the inside to make it 10:23.200 --> 10:25.566 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% a 21st century kind of museum. 10:26.466 --> 10:27.000 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% Would you 10:27.000 --> 10:27.833 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% is there a way 10:27.833 --> 10:28.566 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to get that money 10:28.566 --> 10:29.800 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% at the same time? As saving it? 10:29.800 --> 10:30.033 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% I mean, 10:30.033 --> 10:30.500 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% is that one 10:30.500 --> 10:32.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% of your proposals, as 10:32.066 --> 10:32.433 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% you know, 10:32.433 --> 10:33.333 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% maybe save it, 10:33.333 --> 10:34.200 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% but we will 10:34.200 --> 10:34.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% come up with the money. 10:34.933 --> 10:36.366 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% It could be at one time 10:36.366 --> 10:37.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% it was under the state 10:37.933 --> 10:40.200 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and then it was put under UTSA. 10:40.600 --> 10:42.033 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% So there are all sorts 10:42.033 --> 10:43.100 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% of different scenarios 10:43.100 --> 10:45.233 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and we've only had two or three 10:45.233 --> 10:46.666 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% committee meetings of 10:46.666 --> 10:47.533 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% various people 10:47.533 --> 10:49.033 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% that just kind of came together 10:50.333 --> 10:51.966 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% and are looking at that and 10:51.966 --> 10:53.066 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% thinking about that 10:53.066 --> 10:54.333 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and getting all the information 10:54.333 --> 10:54.966 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% on the building 10:54.966 --> 10:55.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and that sort of thing. 10:55.900 --> 10:56.166 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% So we're 10:56.166 --> 10:57.600 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% in the very early stages. 10:57.600 --> 10:59.200 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% This is one of those battles 10:59.200 --> 10:59.766 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that you had to 10:59.766 --> 11:00.966 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% look ahead down the road 11:00.966 --> 11:02.166 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% and say 11:02.166 --> 11:03.400 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% this was going to happen 11:03.400 --> 11:04.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% at some point. Right? 11:04.833 --> 11:05.300 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% And how about 11:05.300 --> 11:06.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% the federal building? 11:06.366 --> 11:08.266 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% And that's an that's also. 11:08.266 --> 11:09.700 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% On John Wooden Courthouse. 11:09.700 --> 11:12.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Board board, minute board 11:12.633 --> 11:14.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% motion that we worry 11:14.066 --> 11:15.633 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% about that as well. 11:15.633 --> 11:16.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% We hear some good things 11:16.900 --> 11:17.933 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% about that, 11:17.933 --> 11:18.766 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% that somebody may 11:18.766 --> 11:19.633 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% put something in it 11:19.633 --> 11:21.133 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and not destroy the structure 11:21.133 --> 11:22.033 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% because it also 11:22.033 --> 11:23.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% is midcentury modern. 11:23.900 --> 11:26.666 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And people don't think because 11:27.866 --> 11:28.733 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% I don't like to think 11:28.733 --> 11:30.800 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% I'm historic in the 50. 11:30.800 --> 11:33.166 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Anything over. 50. Yes. 11:33.166 --> 11:33.533 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% You know, 11:33.533 --> 11:34.000 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% they don't think 11:34.000 --> 11:35.966 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that's important, but it is. 11:35.966 --> 11:37.200 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% So you don't 11:37.200 --> 11:37.933 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% you see a lot of 11:37.933 --> 11:38.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% older buildings 11:38.700 --> 11:39.466 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% in San Antonio 11:39.466 --> 11:40.533 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% really old buildings 11:40.533 --> 11:41.966 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% which gave us our charm 11:41.966 --> 11:42.600 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% and our culture. 11:42.600 --> 11:44.100 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% But but you don't kind 11:44.100 --> 11:45.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% of think of mid-century 11:45.233 --> 11:46.666 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% modern as being historic. 11:46.666 --> 11:47.666 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% That's not in the realm 11:47.666 --> 11:48.933 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% of consciousness right now. 11:48.933 --> 11:50.333 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% But now technically, they are. 11:50.333 --> 11:50.866 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% They are. 11:50.866 --> 11:51.733 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Well, thank you very much, 11:51.733 --> 11:52.333 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Kathy Rhodes. 11:52.333 --> 11:53.266 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% And for more information, 11:53.266 --> 11:54.733 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% the Conservation Society 11:54.733 --> 11:55.733 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% has a website, right? 11:55.733 --> 11:56.533 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Yes, we do. 11:56.533 --> 11:57.200 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% All right. 11:57.300 --> 11:58.066 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Appreciate you coming in. 11:58.066 --> 11:58.566 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Thank you. 12:02.466 --> 12:03.300 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% For a number of years 12:03.300 --> 12:03.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% now, we've 12:03.733 --> 12:05.866 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% heard about the digital divide 12:05.866 --> 12:07.000 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% in San Antonio, how 12:07.000 --> 12:07.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% so many people 12:07.700 --> 12:08.666 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% don't have access 12:08.666 --> 12:10.133 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to broadband, but 12:10.133 --> 12:11.133 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% because of what the city 12:11.133 --> 12:12.333 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% of San Antonio 12:12.333 --> 12:12.833 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and Bear 12:12.833 --> 12:13.233 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% County 12:13.233 --> 12:14.666 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% are now doing about that. 12:14.666 --> 12:16.633 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% We were just named a digital 12:16.633 --> 12:18.633 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% inclusion trailblazer 12:18.866 --> 12:19.600 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Here to talk about 12:19.600 --> 12:20.633 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that is Bryan Diller, 12:20.633 --> 12:22.166 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% the chief innovation officer 12:22.166 --> 12:23.833 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% for the city of San Antonio. 12:23.833 --> 12:25.100 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Thanks for coming in. 12:25.100 --> 12:26.500 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% This is one of those stories 12:26.500 --> 12:27.233 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that highlights 12:27.233 --> 12:28.200 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% what we're doing. 12:28.200 --> 12:29.033 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% But also 12:29.033 --> 12:31.266 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% how much we still have to do. 12:31.300 --> 12:32.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Yet where are we in 12:32.433 --> 12:33.666 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% terms of access 12:33.666 --> 12:34.933 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% to broadband in the area? 12:34.933 --> 12:35.266 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Right. 12:35.266 --> 12:36.166 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% So luckily, 12:36.166 --> 12:37.200 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% the city of San Antonio 12:37.200 --> 12:39.166 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% was ahead of the curve in 2019 12:39.166 --> 12:39.966 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% when we launched our digital 12:39.966 --> 12:41.000 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% divide assessment, 12:41.000 --> 12:41.666 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% really understanding 12:41.666 --> 12:42.333 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% what the landscape 12:42.333 --> 12:42.866 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% looks like 12:42.866 --> 12:43.866 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% on all three legs of the stool 12:43.866 --> 12:45.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% of digital inclusion. 12:45.366 --> 12:46.133 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% At that time 12:46.133 --> 12:47.666 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% we were at 20% of our residents 12:47.666 --> 12:48.900 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% don't have access to broadband 12:48.900 --> 12:49.300 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% Internet 12:49.300 --> 12:50.066 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% at affordable 12:50.066 --> 12:52.000 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% and quality rates. 12:52.000 --> 12:53.066 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% So that's really where 12:53.066 --> 12:54.366 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% we're still at 12:54.366 --> 12:55.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% the pandemic at solve 12:55.366 --> 12:56.300 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% some of those issues. 12:56.300 --> 12:57.133 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But really we're looking 12:57.133 --> 12:58.033 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% at digital literacy 12:58.033 --> 12:59.066 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% as another piece of that. 12:59.066 --> 13:00.300 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% So even though we were able 13:00.300 --> 13:02.066 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% to distribute hotspots 13:02.066 --> 13:02.900 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% these are areas 13:02.900 --> 13:03.466 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that don't have 13:03.466 --> 13:04.600 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% the infrastructure backbone 13:04.600 --> 13:06.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% to provide quality rates 13:06.200 --> 13:07.700 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% on those hotspots. 13:07.700 --> 13:08.833 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% So we're really looking forward 13:08.833 --> 13:10.333 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% with our new 13:10.333 --> 13:11.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% our new approaches 13:11.800 --> 13:13.233 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% to embed 13:13.233 --> 13:14.466 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% this fiber connectivity 13:14.466 --> 13:15.500 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% to the home. 13:15.500 --> 13:16.000 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% That's really 13:16.000 --> 13:16.833 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% what's going to close the gap 13:16.833 --> 13:17.666 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% for those 20% 13:17.666 --> 13:18.233 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% of those residents. 13:18.233 --> 13:18.900 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% Now being named, 13:18.900 --> 13:19.900 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% a digital inclusion 13:19.900 --> 13:21.766 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% trailblazer means things 13:21.766 --> 13:22.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% like we have a team 13:22.800 --> 13:24.300 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that's dedicated to that now. 13:24.300 --> 13:25.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% There's a nonprofit here 13:25.900 --> 13:27.566 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that's dedicated to that 13:27.566 --> 13:29.200 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% but other than that, 13:29.200 --> 13:30.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% what does it mean? 13:30.300 --> 13:31.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% So it's really about 13:31.366 --> 13:32.233 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% do you have a plan 13:32.233 --> 13:33.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and are you executing 13:33.333 --> 13:34.233 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% or are you putting money 13:34.233 --> 13:35.000 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% where your mouth is, or 13:35.000 --> 13:35.766 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% are you actually 13:35.766 --> 13:37.200 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% walking the walk 13:37.200 --> 13:38.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% The city of San Antonio, 13:38.200 --> 13:39.166 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% as I mentioned two years ago, 13:39.166 --> 13:40.000 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% we started off with this, 13:40.000 --> 13:41.300 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% but the pandemic pushed them 13:41.300 --> 13:41.933 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% into a position 13:41.933 --> 13:43.633 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% where we needed to do things. 13:43.633 --> 13:44.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% So we have a digital 13:44.366 --> 13:45.166 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% equity roadmap 13:45.166 --> 13:45.700 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that we're actually 13:45.700 --> 13:47.400 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% executing on with our partners, 13:47.400 --> 13:48.333 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% our community partners. 13:48.333 --> 13:49.633 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% So we're two community partners 13:49.633 --> 13:50.933 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% tied into that. 13:50.933 --> 13:51.600 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Not to mention, 13:51.600 --> 13:52.466 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% we've already started 13:52.466 --> 13:53.766 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% spending on infrastructure 13:53.766 --> 13:54.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% pieces like Connected 13:54.700 --> 13:55.766 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Bee on the classroom, 13:55.766 --> 13:56.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% as well as we have 13:56.433 --> 13:57.833 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% an RFP on the streets right now 13:57.833 --> 13:59.333 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% that we're offering up 13:59.333 --> 14:02.066 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% contracts to connect residents 14:02.066 --> 14:03.500 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% to the Internet at affordable 14:03.500 --> 14:04.200 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% and quality speed. 14:04.200 --> 14:05.700 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% The pandemic really exposed 14:05.700 --> 14:07.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% so many households 14:07.433 --> 14:09.166 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% not having broadband, kids 14:09.166 --> 14:10.433 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% not being able to do, 14:10.433 --> 14:13.100 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% you know, remote learning and 14:13.100 --> 14:14.400 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% basically a mind shift 14:14.400 --> 14:15.133 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% that we need to think of it 14:15.133 --> 14:16.600 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% as a utility 14:16.600 --> 14:16.933 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% that it's 14:16.933 --> 14:19.300 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% not just some kind of luxury 14:19.300 --> 14:20.333 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% to have broadband. 14:20.333 --> 14:20.966 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Absolutely. 14:20.966 --> 14:22.233 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% It's definitely a lifeline. 14:22.233 --> 14:22.966 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% I mean, you talk about 14:22.966 --> 14:24.166 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% digital economy in certain 14:24.166 --> 14:25.933 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% aspects from financial access 14:25.933 --> 14:27.066 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% to institutions 14:27.066 --> 14:28.333 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% to education and workforce. 14:28.333 --> 14:29.133 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% But we also talk about 14:29.133 --> 14:30.433 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% social isolation 14:30.433 --> 14:31.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% among our seniors. 14:31.300 --> 14:32.900 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% A lot of them were locked in. 14:32.900 --> 14:34.033 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% They couldn't make contact. 14:34.033 --> 14:35.066 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% And that's a health impact 14:35.066 --> 14:36.300 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% that at the end of the day. 14:36.300 --> 14:37.400 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% So it's definitely important 14:37.400 --> 14:38.633 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% for us to really wrap around 14:38.633 --> 14:39.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% that holistic approach 14:39.500 --> 14:40.266 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% to digital inclusion. 14:40.266 --> 14:41.566 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% You talked about the three legs 14:41.566 --> 14:43.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% of the digital stool, 14:43.333 --> 14:43.766 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% so to speak. 14:43.766 --> 14:43.966 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% What are 14:43.966 --> 14:45.000 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% what are we talking about there 14:45.000 --> 14:45.833 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% when literacy 14:45.833 --> 14:47.400 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% as well as connectivity? 14:47.400 --> 14:47.633 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% So we're 14:47.633 --> 14:48.400 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% talking about broadband 14:48.400 --> 14:49.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% infrastructure. 14:49.000 --> 14:49.833 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Do you have the Internet 14:49.833 --> 14:50.633 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% at your home? 14:50.633 --> 14:51.933 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% If I got your Internet at home, 14:51.933 --> 14:53.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% do you have the proper device 14:53.566 --> 14:54.600 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% to do what you need to do? 14:54.600 --> 14:56.133 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% So kids can't do homework 14:56.133 --> 14:56.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% on their cell phones 14:56.900 --> 14:58.233 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% for very long. 14:58.233 --> 14:59.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% And then the third piece is 14:59.433 --> 15:00.600 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% I get to an Internet, 15:00.600 --> 15:01.566 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% I get you a device. 15:01.566 --> 15:02.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% But at the end of day, 15:02.233 --> 15:03.133 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% do you know how or what 15:03.133 --> 15:04.066 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% to use it for? 15:04.066 --> 15:04.433 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% That's a 15:04.433 --> 15:05.333 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% digital literacy piece. 15:05.333 --> 15:06.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% We have to attack that 15:06.500 --> 15:07.533 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% from all three of those legs. 15:07.533 --> 15:08.366 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% And we take those 15:08.366 --> 15:08.900 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% a lot of people 15:08.900 --> 15:10.133 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% take those for granted 15:10.133 --> 15:10.733 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% that, well, 15:10.733 --> 15:11.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% if you have a computer, 15:11.500 --> 15:12.600 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% you know how to use it. 15:12.600 --> 15:13.433 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Everybody should know 15:13.433 --> 15:14.266 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% how to use a computer 15:14.266 --> 15:14.866 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% or it's not 15:14.866 --> 15:16.566 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that hard these days. 15:16.566 --> 15:17.600 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But if you're getting it 15:17.600 --> 15:18.466 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% for the first time, 15:18.466 --> 15:19.400 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% you've never had it. 15:19.400 --> 15:22.166 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% It is or can be confusing. 15:22.200 --> 15:23.600 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Absolutely. It's intimidating. 15:23.600 --> 15:24.300 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% At the end of the day. 15:24.300 --> 15:24.800 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% So how do you 15:24.800 --> 15:25.966 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% how do you deal with that? 15:25.966 --> 15:26.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% What are the programs 15:26.900 --> 15:27.700 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% to deal with that? Right. 15:27.700 --> 15:29.033 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% So we've actually funded 15:29.033 --> 15:30.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% quite a few opportunities 15:30.466 --> 15:31.166 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% there, especially 15:31.166 --> 15:31.933 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% for our seniors, 15:31.933 --> 15:32.833 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% our older adults. 15:32.833 --> 15:33.666 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% So we've got boats 15:33.666 --> 15:34.433 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that we funded 15:34.433 --> 15:36.233 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% at a grant amount last year, 15:36.233 --> 15:36.833 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% and then we put it 15:36.833 --> 15:38.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% into this year's budget. 15:38.366 --> 15:39.266 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% We also are funding 15:39.266 --> 15:40.566 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% a group called Oasis, 15:40.566 --> 15:42.066 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and both of those really train 15:42.066 --> 15:43.333 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% those senior adults 15:43.333 --> 15:44.833 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% on how to use it Internet, 15:44.833 --> 15:45.733 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% how to utilize it 15:45.733 --> 15:46.933 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% for their benefit rather 15:46.933 --> 15:48.300 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% than, you know, jumping in 15:48.300 --> 15:49.066 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% and being afraid 15:49.066 --> 15:49.666 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% to utilize 15:49.666 --> 15:50.600 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% those different aspects 15:50.600 --> 15:51.166 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% and be 15:51.166 --> 15:52.333 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% honestly kind of insecure 15:52.333 --> 15:52.733 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% about it. 15:52.733 --> 15:53.200 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% At the end of the. 15:53.200 --> 15:55.266 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Day, and the bond issue, 15:55.266 --> 15:55.900 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% there was talk 15:55.900 --> 15:57.066 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% of putting some money in 15:57.066 --> 15:58.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% for digital connectivity. 15:58.900 --> 16:00.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And you said there is 16:00.333 --> 16:01.666 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% some mention of it in there, 16:01.666 --> 16:02.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% but it's basically 16:02.433 --> 16:03.566 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% just for builders. 16:03.566 --> 16:04.533 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% It has to be 16:04.533 --> 16:05.466 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% it has to be embedded 16:05.466 --> 16:06.466 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% in each of the approaches, 16:06.466 --> 16:07.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% whether it's streets 16:07.066 --> 16:07.933 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% and sidewalks 16:07.933 --> 16:08.633 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% or the affordable 16:08.633 --> 16:09.333 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% housing measures. 16:09.333 --> 16:10.400 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% We have to be cognizant 16:10.400 --> 16:10.866 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% of building 16:10.866 --> 16:12.233 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% in that digital inclusion piece 16:12.233 --> 16:13.200 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% into those projects, 16:13.200 --> 16:13.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% rather than it being 16:13.833 --> 16:14.533 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% a stone bucket. 16:14.533 --> 16:15.966 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% And what about the funding? 16:15.966 --> 16:17.033 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Because we were talking 16:17.033 --> 16:19.033 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% I was reading in one article 16:19.033 --> 16:19.533 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% last year, you're 16:19.533 --> 16:21.100 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% talking about $600 million 16:21.100 --> 16:22.666 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% would be needed overall 16:22.666 --> 16:24.733 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% to get San Antonio 100% 16:25.033 --> 16:27.100 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% connectivity and broadband. 16:27.100 --> 16:29.000 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Where is anywhere near 16:29.000 --> 16:30.300 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% that kind of money coming from? 16:30.300 --> 16:30.633 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Right. 16:30.633 --> 16:31.600 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% So the city is leveraging 16:31.600 --> 16:33.133 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% what we can at this point. 16:33.133 --> 16:34.733 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% We've got about $6.9, 16:34.733 --> 16:36.500 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% $6.9 million in our coffers 16:36.500 --> 16:38.166 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% right now for digital inclusion 16:38.166 --> 16:38.933 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that's going to be leveraged 16:38.933 --> 16:39.533 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% through that RFP 16:39.533 --> 16:40.266 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% that I mentioned. 16:40.266 --> 16:40.833 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Bear Counties 16:40.833 --> 16:41.766 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% put in 25 million. 16:41.766 --> 16:42.400 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% But as you mentioned, it's 16:42.400 --> 16:43.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% just a drop in the bucket. 16:43.433 --> 16:44.033 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% We are looking 16:44.033 --> 16:44.766 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% the private sector 16:44.766 --> 16:45.033 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% to help 16:45.033 --> 16:46.566 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% specifically ISP's 16:46.566 --> 16:47.800 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% and telecoms to focus in on 16:47.800 --> 16:48.200 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% those areas 16:48.200 --> 16:49.266 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% have been underserved 16:49.266 --> 16:51.066 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% for years, decades where there. 16:51.066 --> 16:52.566 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Was that six or 7 million 16:52.566 --> 16:53.900 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% where does that go directly? 16:53.900 --> 16:55.733 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% Does that go to. 16:55.733 --> 16:56.866 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% So they tend to that is it 16:56.866 --> 16:57.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% will go to infrastructure 16:57.900 --> 16:58.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% in our most underserved 16:58.933 --> 17:00.133 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% unserved neighborhoods 17:00.133 --> 17:01.366 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% which if you look at our equity 17:01.366 --> 17:02.266 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% at this map, it's 17:02.266 --> 17:03.166 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% exactly where you think 17:03.166 --> 17:04.133 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% it is, the south, south 17:04.133 --> 17:05.600 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% side, west side, any side. 17:05.600 --> 17:06.833 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% And we don't have much time. 17:06.833 --> 17:07.866 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% But you are our chief 17:07.866 --> 17:08.866 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% innovation officer. 17:08.866 --> 17:09.333 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% And we talked 17:09.333 --> 17:10.200 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% just briefly before 17:10.200 --> 17:10.900 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% about some of the things 17:10.900 --> 17:12.666 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that you were working on 17:12.666 --> 17:14.166 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% what are those right now? 17:14.166 --> 17:15.066 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% A lot of smart city 17:15.066 --> 17:16.666 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% solutions on the outside. 17:16.666 --> 17:17.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% You know, externally, 17:17.366 --> 17:19.500 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% we just launched a survey piece 17:19.500 --> 17:20.366 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that will be going 17:20.366 --> 17:21.300 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% until November seven. 17:21.300 --> 17:21.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% So we'll be in 17:21.700 --> 17:22.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% a lot of neighborhoods 17:22.500 --> 17:23.533 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% doing that. 17:23.533 --> 17:24.200 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% We have a research 17:24.200 --> 17:24.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and development team 17:24.900 --> 17:25.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that we really try 17:25.433 --> 17:25.900 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% to experiment 17:25.900 --> 17:26.933 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% with city services, try 17:26.933 --> 17:27.533 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% to improve them 17:27.533 --> 17:28.333 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% from city residents 17:28.333 --> 17:30.000 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% at a small scale. 17:30.000 --> 17:30.800 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And then, of course, 17:30.800 --> 17:31.733 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% we always do 17:31.733 --> 17:32.933 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% internal performance 17:32.933 --> 17:33.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% excellence pieces, 17:33.800 --> 17:35.200 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% making sure that city services 17:35.200 --> 17:36.833 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% are continuously improved 17:36.833 --> 17:38.066 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% as we move into the future. 17:38.066 --> 17:38.600 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% We're just talking 17:38.600 --> 17:39.466 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% about smarter 17:39.466 --> 17:41.100 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% cities, things just quicker 17:41.100 --> 17:41.766 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% more efficient. 17:41.766 --> 17:42.166 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% It doesn't 17:42.166 --> 17:43.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% necessarily have to mean, 17:43.466 --> 17:44.300 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% although it does include, 17:44.300 --> 17:45.200 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% I guess, 17:45.400 --> 17:46.233 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% automated driving 17:46.233 --> 17:46.833 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and that kind of thing. 17:46.833 --> 17:47.433 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Down the road. 17:47.433 --> 17:48.500 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Down the road, we want. 17:48.500 --> 17:48.966 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% To make sure it's 17:48.966 --> 17:49.966 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% not getting dropped in our lap 17:49.966 --> 17:50.800 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and that we're aware of what's. 17:50.800 --> 17:51.300 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Coming. 17:51.300 --> 17:51.633 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% All right. 17:51.633 --> 17:52.366 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Well, thank you very much, 17:52.366 --> 17:53.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Brian Dillon, chief 17:53.300 --> 17:54.266 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% innovation officer 17:54.266 --> 17:55.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% for the city of San Antonio. 17:55.566 --> 17:56.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Thanks for coming in. 17:56.333 --> 17:56.700 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Thank you so 17:56.700 --> 17:57.166 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% much for having me. 18:00.766 --> 18:00.900 position:45% line:84.67% size:45% On. 18:00.900 --> 18:01.800 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% Reporters Roundtable. 18:01.800 --> 18:02.233 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% This week, 18:02.233 --> 18:03.533 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% we're looking at the city's 18:03.533 --> 18:04.600 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% housing bond 18:04.600 --> 18:05.666 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that was passed 18:05.666 --> 18:08.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% in May for $150 billion. 18:08.200 --> 18:09.333 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% And it hit a milestone 18:09.333 --> 18:10.400 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% this week. 18:10.600 --> 18:11.800 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Here to join us to talk about 18:11.800 --> 18:13.000 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% that is Ben Ali. 18:13.000 --> 18:14.433 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Though not just a reporter, 18:14.433 --> 18:15.533 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% not just an editor, 18:15.533 --> 18:16.766 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% but the publisher 18:16.766 --> 18:17.333 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% of the San 18:17.333 --> 18:18.133 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Antonio Herald 18:18.133 --> 18:20.433 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and you went really in-depth 18:20.733 --> 18:22.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% on this whole issue. 18:22.900 --> 18:23.833 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% What happened 18:23.833 --> 18:24.933 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% or what's happening right now 18:24.933 --> 18:26.400 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% with this whole bond issue? 18:26.400 --> 18:28.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% And I guess there's 18:28.433 --> 18:29.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% a little controversy here 18:29.366 --> 18:29.733 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% in terms 18:29.733 --> 18:30.666 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% of whether they're 18:30.666 --> 18:32.366 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% moving too quickly 18:32.366 --> 18:34.000 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% and trying to 18:34.000 --> 18:34.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% get these requests 18:34.800 --> 18:36.166 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% for proposals. Sure. 18:36.166 --> 18:37.666 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% So this is 18:37.666 --> 18:39.266 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% a very complicated bond. 18:39.266 --> 18:39.633 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% I mean, 18:39.766 --> 18:41.166 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% all bonds are complicated. 18:41.166 --> 18:42.433 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% It's $150 million 18:42.433 --> 18:43.233 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% for the housing bond. 18:43.233 --> 18:44.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% It was approved last May. 18:44.466 --> 18:45.833 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% And then just a week ago, 18:45.833 --> 18:47.266 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% the city issued 18:47.266 --> 18:48.266 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% what they called a request 18:48.266 --> 18:48.966 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% for proposals, 18:48.966 --> 18:50.066 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% which is when they go out 18:50.066 --> 18:52.033 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% and try to find developers 18:52.033 --> 18:53.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% to build the houses, 18:53.333 --> 18:54.800 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% the housing, rehab, the 18:54.800 --> 18:56.266 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% housing and so forth, 18:57.700 --> 18:58.466 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% but basically, 18:58.466 --> 19:01.733 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% the the arguments are that, 19:01.733 --> 19:03.900 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% you know, finding 19:03.900 --> 19:04.566 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% building affordable 19:04.566 --> 19:05.100 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% housing is very, 19:05.100 --> 19:06.400 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% very complicated. 19:06.400 --> 19:07.400 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Especially building 19:07.400 --> 19:08.133 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% affordable housing 19:08.133 --> 19:09.200 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that meets the lower 19:09.200 --> 19:11.666 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% or lower income levels. 19:11.666 --> 19:14.033 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% The poor in San Antonio, 19:14.600 --> 19:15.800 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that's what this housing bond 19:15.800 --> 19:17.666 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% was designed to do. 19:17.666 --> 19:20.300 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And some folks are saying that 19:20.300 --> 19:21.600 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% the city, 19:21.600 --> 19:22.866 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Mayor Nierenberg, are sort of 19:22.866 --> 19:24.500 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% rushing the process. 19:24.500 --> 19:25.433 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% The mayor's argument 19:25.433 --> 19:27.166 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% is that there are projects 19:27.166 --> 19:28.433 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that are ready to go now, 19:28.433 --> 19:30.533 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and we can't let those projects 19:31.266 --> 19:32.433 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% slip away. 19:32.433 --> 19:34.200 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% Those projects already have 19:34.200 --> 19:34.633 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% a lot of them 19:34.633 --> 19:36.000 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% have federal funding 19:36.000 --> 19:37.266 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% committed to them, 19:37.266 --> 19:38.600 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% other forms of funding. 19:38.600 --> 19:39.433 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% And if we don't 19:39.433 --> 19:41.600 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% get those projects built ASAP, 19:41.600 --> 19:42.933 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% we may lose them. 19:42.933 --> 19:44.366 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% And that's happened 19:44.366 --> 19:45.633 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% already with some 19:45.633 --> 19:46.433 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% because of the changes 19:46.433 --> 19:47.300 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% in financing 19:47.300 --> 19:49.233 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% and writing percentages 19:49.233 --> 19:49.833 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that they can't 19:49.833 --> 19:50.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% they can't make work. 19:50.900 --> 19:51.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% A lot of it has to do 19:51.833 --> 19:53.200 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% with inflation, inflation. 19:53.200 --> 19:54.366 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% So the rising cost 19:54.366 --> 19:55.966 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% of construction 19:55.966 --> 19:58.633 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% materials, labor, et cetera. 19:58.633 --> 19:59.866 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% Another huge factor 19:59.866 --> 20:00.933 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% is the fluctuation 20:00.933 --> 20:02.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% in interest rates. 20:02.300 --> 20:04.866 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% And so so those 20:05.133 --> 20:05.966 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% those changes 20:05.966 --> 20:08.333 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and the they form a gap. 20:08.333 --> 20:10.200 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% And so the developer ends up 20:10.200 --> 20:11.433 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% having to kind of 20:11.433 --> 20:12.500 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% redo their numbers 20:12.500 --> 20:13.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% to try to make 20:13.700 --> 20:14.866 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% the project work. 20:14.866 --> 20:16.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And how many projects 20:16.066 --> 20:16.800 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% are we talking about here 20:16.800 --> 20:17.033 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% where there's 20:17.033 --> 20:18.466 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% $150 million bond? 20:18.466 --> 20:18.966 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% You talked about 20:18.966 --> 20:19.733 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% how there are 20:19.733 --> 20:22.033 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% five different buckets 20:22.033 --> 20:23.300 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% that are within 20:23.300 --> 20:24.800 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that hundred and $50 million, 20:24.800 --> 20:25.466 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% the biggest of which 20:25.466 --> 20:26.766 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% I guess is home rehab. 20:26.766 --> 20:27.200 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Right. 20:27.200 --> 20:27.966 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% So, so, 20:27.966 --> 20:30.700 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% so the home rehab is not an RFP 20:31.066 --> 20:32.100 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that those are just 20:32.100 --> 20:33.166 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% if you own a home, 20:33.166 --> 20:35.333 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% you can apply for 20:35.333 --> 20:36.833 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% funding from the bond 20:36.833 --> 20:38.533 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% it's $45 million. 20:38.533 --> 20:38.800 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% So it's 20:38.800 --> 20:40.866 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% nearly a third of the overall 20:41.033 --> 20:43.233 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% 150 million housing bond. 20:43.700 --> 20:44.766 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% And so the city's 20:44.766 --> 20:45.533 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% really encouraging 20:45.533 --> 20:46.566 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% folks to you know 20:46.566 --> 20:47.466 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% if you own a home 20:47.466 --> 20:48.266 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and it's 20:48.266 --> 20:49.100 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% targeted for people 20:49.100 --> 20:51.166 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% who make 30% or below 20:51.166 --> 20:52.266 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% the area of median income. 20:52.266 --> 20:54.400 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% So so the poorest 20:54.400 --> 20:56.100 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% the lowest income of the 20:56.100 --> 20:57.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% of homeowners in San Antonio. 20:57.566 --> 20:59.866 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% 22,000 for a family of three. 21:00.166 --> 21:01.400 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Yeah it's around that range. 21:01.400 --> 21:01.900 position:42.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Yeah. 21:01.900 --> 21:03.066 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% And so so folks 21:03.066 --> 21:04.266 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% so the city really wants to 21:04.266 --> 21:05.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% to get the word out there 21:05.466 --> 21:06.933 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that folks can apply 21:06.933 --> 21:08.700 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and the home repairs 21:08.700 --> 21:09.533 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% it ranges from 21:09.533 --> 21:10.800 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% sort of minor stuff 21:11.966 --> 21:12.200 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% you know 21:12.200 --> 21:13.400 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% windows doors 21:13.400 --> 21:14.000 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% stuff like that 21:14.000 --> 21:16.466 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% to foundations roofs 21:16.466 --> 21:17.933 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and so it really runs 21:17.933 --> 21:18.533 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% the gamut but. 21:18.533 --> 21:18.800 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Really 21:18.800 --> 21:20.600 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% increasing the housing stock 21:20.600 --> 21:22.800 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% and renovating and rentals 21:22.800 --> 21:24.466 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% and houses as well. 21:24.466 --> 21:24.966 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% That's what 21:24.966 --> 21:25.833 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% we're talking about here 21:25.833 --> 21:26.800 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% in terms of 21:26.800 --> 21:27.866 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% whether there's been enough 21:27.866 --> 21:28.600 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% advocates say 21:28.600 --> 21:29.266 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% there may have 21:29.266 --> 21:31.333 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% not been enough brainstorming 21:31.566 --> 21:32.166 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% going on 21:32.166 --> 21:33.666 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% to find innovative ways 21:33.666 --> 21:34.600 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% to make this possible 21:34.600 --> 21:35.933 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% for the course of the poor. 21:35.933 --> 21:36.333 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% Right. 21:36.333 --> 21:38.433 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% So so again, 21:38.433 --> 21:40.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% to to build housing 21:40.300 --> 21:41.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that meets the lower 21:41.900 --> 21:42.533 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% or lower 21:42.533 --> 21:44.300 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% levels of affordability, 21:44.300 --> 21:45.566 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% it really does 21:45.566 --> 21:47.066 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% take some ingenuity. 21:47.066 --> 21:47.966 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And you really need, 21:47.966 --> 21:49.566 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% you know, the city 21:49.566 --> 21:50.633 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and other housing experts 21:50.633 --> 21:51.500 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% have describe 21:51.500 --> 21:52.366 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% you need layers 21:52.366 --> 21:53.566 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and layers of subsidies. 21:53.566 --> 21:54.533 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And so you're getting subsidies 21:54.533 --> 21:55.700 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% from the city, 21:55.700 --> 21:56.966 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% possibly from the county, 21:56.966 --> 21:57.933 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% from the federal government 21:57.933 --> 21:59.333 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% just to make this happen. 21:59.333 --> 22:00.666 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% And so what housing 22:00.666 --> 22:01.333 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% advocates are saying 22:01.333 --> 22:01.633 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% is now 22:01.633 --> 22:03.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% we have $150 million 22:03.366 --> 22:05.166 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% in this housing bond 22:05.166 --> 22:05.933 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% this doesn't come 22:05.933 --> 22:06.700 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% this only comes around 22:06.700 --> 22:07.966 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% once every five years. 22:07.966 --> 22:09.233 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% This is the first of its kind 22:09.233 --> 22:10.133 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% in recent memory 22:10.133 --> 22:11.566 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% for San Antonio. 22:11.566 --> 22:12.466 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% This this is 22:12.466 --> 22:13.000 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% these are 22:13.266 --> 22:14.433 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% precious resources 22:14.433 --> 22:15.900 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that should be spent 22:15.900 --> 22:17.933 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% on the poorest of the poor, 22:17.933 --> 22:20.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% not like the median tiers 22:20.400 --> 22:22.733 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% of 30. Percent of A.m.i. 22:22.733 --> 22:24.900 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% And then there's a 60% 22:24.900 --> 22:26.000 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% median income that 22:26.000 --> 22:27.233 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% apparently more 22:27.233 --> 22:28.766 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% of these projects would be 22:28.766 --> 22:30.166 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% aimed at. Correct. 22:30.166 --> 22:32.266 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% So so currently in the pipeline 22:32.266 --> 22:33.133 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% the city has a list 22:33.133 --> 22:34.166 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% of all the developments 22:34.166 --> 22:35.400 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% that are that are ready to go. 22:35.400 --> 22:36.300 position:45% line:84.67% size:45% Now 22:36.533 --> 22:37.066 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% they just need a 22:37.066 --> 22:38.100 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% little extra funding 22:38.100 --> 22:39.500 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% or they might have their 22:39.500 --> 22:39.966 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% own funding. 22:39.966 --> 22:42.200 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But the majority of those 22:42.200 --> 22:43.533 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% are hitting that 60%. 22:43.533 --> 22:45.633 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% Amy which the city does 22:45.633 --> 22:47.033 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% define as affordable 22:47.033 --> 22:49.133 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% housing for San Antonio. 22:49.133 --> 22:51.400 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But the bond was designed 22:51.400 --> 22:54.766 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% for folks in that 30% and below 22:54.866 --> 22:56.000 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% three median income range 22:56.000 --> 22:57.100 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% or even up to 50 22:57.100 --> 22:58.766 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% but like in those lower 22:58.766 --> 22:59.800 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% tiers so. 22:59.800 --> 23:00.566 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% So what do you think's going 23:00.566 --> 23:01.300 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% to happen in terms 23:01.300 --> 23:02.266 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% of most of these projects 23:02.266 --> 23:02.533 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% they are 23:02.533 --> 23:04.466 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% going ahead with the RPI 23:04.466 --> 23:06.266 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% as they are. 23:06.266 --> 23:08.266 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% So the city will they'll get 23:09.500 --> 23:10.200 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% developers will 23:10.200 --> 23:11.333 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% respond to 23:11.333 --> 23:13.266 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% the solicitation 23:13.266 --> 23:13.700 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% the city 23:13.700 --> 23:15.366 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% has different committees 23:15.366 --> 23:16.300 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% form that 23:16.300 --> 23:16.866 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% those committees 23:16.866 --> 23:17.833 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% are made up of city 23:17.833 --> 23:19.500 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% officials and housing you know 23:19.500 --> 23:20.866 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% community folks 23:20.866 --> 23:21.366 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% and they're 23:21.366 --> 23:22.266 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% they're going to grade 23:22.266 --> 23:24.633 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% you know the solicit 23:24.633 --> 23:25.266 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% the projects 23:25.266 --> 23:26.800 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% and see if they meet 23:26.800 --> 23:28.200 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% those different levels of EMI. 23:28.200 --> 23:29.566 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% But but that's going to be 23:29.566 --> 23:30.466 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% we're going to 23:30.466 --> 23:31.666 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% we're going to see 23:31.666 --> 23:32.500 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% how that shakes out. 23:32.500 --> 23:33.200 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% And so there's going to be 23:33.200 --> 23:34.066 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% some controversy there 23:34.066 --> 23:35.300 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% because housing advocates say 23:35.300 --> 23:36.100 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% it's not aimed 23:36.100 --> 23:37.166 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% at the right people right now 23:37.166 --> 23:38.033 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% or some of them aren't 23:38.033 --> 23:39.200 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% aimed at the right people. 23:39.200 --> 23:40.133 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Right. Right. 23:40.133 --> 23:41.766 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% But if that would slow it down 23:41.766 --> 23:42.300 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% even more, 23:42.300 --> 23:42.900 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% would that slow 23:42.900 --> 23:44.800 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% the pipeline down even further? 23:44.800 --> 23:45.433 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Well, it's 23:45.433 --> 23:46.200 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% very important to note 23:46.200 --> 23:47.566 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% that the city is reserving 23:47.566 --> 23:48.333 position:27.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% half of the money 23:48.333 --> 23:49.100 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% they have 23:49.100 --> 23:49.900 position:37.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% for these 23:49.900 --> 23:51.666 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% for rental production 23:51.666 --> 23:53.666 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and rehab and home production, 23:54.133 --> 23:54.766 position:32.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% the reserving 23:54.766 --> 23:56.833 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% half of the money now. 23:56.833 --> 23:57.533 position:20% line:84.67% size:70% And they're going to do 23:57.533 --> 23:58.400 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% another solicitation 23:58.400 --> 23:59.033 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% in the spring. 23:59.033 --> 23:59.333 position:40% line:84.67% size:50% And so 23:59.333 --> 24:00.566 position:15% line:84.67% size:75% that's their way of saying, 24:00.566 --> 24:00.766 position:42.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% like, 24:00.766 --> 24:01.733 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% we want to get 24:01.733 --> 24:02.666 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% take care of the projects 24:02.666 --> 24:03.700 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% that are ready now, 24:03.700 --> 24:04.600 position:25% line:84.67% size:65% but we want to give 24:04.600 --> 24:05.800 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% those other projects 24:05.800 --> 24:07.366 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% time to come up with 24:07.366 --> 24:08.233 position:22.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% more innovative ways 24:08.233 --> 24:09.233 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% to do affordable housing. 24:09.233 --> 24:09.400 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% Well, you. 24:09.400 --> 24:10.033 position:30% line:84.67% size:60% Did a great job 24:10.033 --> 24:11.400 position:10% line:84.67% size:80% explaining this in this article 24:11.400 --> 24:12.700 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% that you already have online 24:12.700 --> 24:13.166 position:35% line:84.67% size:55% and you're 24:13.333 --> 24:14.633 position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% you have more in the pipeline 24:14.633 --> 24:16.000 position:17.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% as well. 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