[♪♪] Good evening. I’m Renee Shaw. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to a special, 90-minute edition of Kentucky Tonight with five Republican candidates for governor. We are joined in our Lexington studio by: Kelly Craft, former U.S. ambassador to Canada and to the United Nations; Daniel Cameron, Kentucky Attorney General; Ryan Quarles, Kentucky commissioner of agriculture; former attorney Eric Deters, and Somerset mayor Alan Keck. These five candidates met our criteria to appear and accepted our invitations. We want to hear from you. Send us your questions by Twitter at K-Y TONIGHT K-E-T. Send an email to K-Y TONIGHT at K-E-T dot O-R-G. Or use the web form at K-E-T dot O-R-G slash K-Y TONIGHT. Or you can call 1-800-494-7605. Welcome to our candidates. As a reminder to our candidates, and to inform the viewing audience, the candidates have been given instructions on decorum, which include: no disruptive, threatening, or inappropriate behavior during the program. Candidates are to remain seated, and not approach another candidate on the set at any time. SO WITH THOSE RULES, REEMPHASIZE THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. >> WE WANT TO START WITH WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR AND DELVE INTO THE ISSUES AND WE'LL SPRINKLE IN QUESTIONS FROM AUDIENCE MEMBERS AS WE GO ALONG. BY ALPHABETICAL ORDER WE WILL START WITH YOU GENERAL CAMERON. LET'S ASK YOU WHY YOU WANT TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR AND I WANT TO REMIND OUR AUDIENCE AND YOU IN 2019 WHEN YOU RAN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL YOU SAID THAT THE POLITICAL PICNIC YOU SAID QUOTE THE LAST FOUR AG'S WERE MORE QUOTE ASPIRING GOVERNORS THAN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. I'M RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND NOTHING ELSE END QUOTE FROM. THAT STATEMENT ON VIDEO IT IS ASSUMED YOU ASPIRE TO BE A TWO-TERM ATTORNEY GENERAL. WHAT CHANGED YOUR MIND AND WHY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE NOW READY TO BE GOVERNOR? >> WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW ANDY BESHEAR WAS GOING TO SHUTDOWN OUR STATE FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS. WE NOW HAVE LEARNING LOSS FROM OUR KIDS BECAUSE HE DECIDED TO SHUTDOWN OUR STATE FOR TWO YEARS. HE SHUTDOWN SMALL BUSINESSES FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS. I WAS AT THE TIP OF THE ATMOSPHERE IN TERMS OF CHALLENGING AND PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY SHUTDOWN CHURCHES AND ALLOWED BIG BOX STORES TO STAY OPEN. I WAS IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO STAND UP FOR THE VALUES AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY AND FEEL LIKE WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AND TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP IN A COUNTER TO BESHEAR THAT MERIT ALONE WE FELT CALLED TO JUMP INTO THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR AND FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S DONALD J. TRUMP WHO ENDORSED THIS CAMPAIGN OR 100 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHO HAVE ENDORSED THIS CAMPAIGN OR KENTUCKY RIGHT TO LIFE WE ARE IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO BUILD A COALITION OF FOLKS THAT NOT ONLY CAN WIN THE MAY 16TH PRIMARY AND CAN ALSO RETIRE ANDY BESHEAR IN NOVEMBER. >> Renee: FOR THOSE THAT ACCUSE YOU OF JUMPING LINE THAT YOU PERHAPS HAVE A THIN LINE OF EXPERIENCE THAT YOU NEEDED TO WAIT YOUR TURN AND PAY YOUR DUES YOU SAY WHAT? >> WELL, I SAY LOOK AT THE TRACK RECORD. I AM THE ONLY CANDIDATE HERE TONIGHT THAT CAN SAY WHEN GOVERNOR BESHEAR SHUTDOWN CHURCHES I WENT INTO FEDERAL COURT AND AFTER NINE DAYS GOT CHURCHES REOPENED IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF KEN. WHEN PRESIDENT BIDEN TRIED TO FORCE VACCINE MANDATES ON OUR STATE I WENT INTO FEDERAL COURT AND GOT THE VACCINE MANDATES STOPPED IN THE COMMONWEALTH. AND BECAUSE OF THE WORK OF MY OFFICE SINCE LAST AUGUST, AT -- THE ABORTION FELLS HAVE BEEN CLOSED AND I'M THE CANDIDATE THAT BROUGHT IN $900 MILLION TO THE STATE. AND AS A WAY OF CONTRAST ULTIMATELY THIS RACE AND I KNOW VIEWERS YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS IS ABOUT RETIRING ANDY BESHEAR FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN NOVEMBER. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC, HE FILED A LOT OF LAWSUITS BUT HE BROUGHT ZERO DOLLARS INTO THE STATE. IN THREE YEARS, I AM IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING $900 MILLION INTO THE COMMONWEALTH TO FIGHT THIS OPIOID EPIDEMIC. >> Renee: THE GOVERNOR HAS REFUTED THAT AND SAID IT DATES BACK TO JAQUES CONWAY WHEN HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HE HAD FILED SUITS AND YOU FILED JUST ONE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE -- >> IF I MAY, RENEE. FILING SUITS IS ONE THING AND BRINGING ZERO DOLLARS INTO THE STATE WHICH IS WHAT ANDY BESHEAR DID. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING IN 900 MILLION AND THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. >> Renee: FINAL QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IF ELECTED GOVERNOR AND IF THERE WAS A VACANCY IN 2026 AND KENTUCKY FOR A U.S. SENATE SEAT DO YOU VOW TONIGHT THAT YOU WOULD FINISH YOUR TERM IF ELECTED AS GOVERNOR FOR THE WHOLE FOUR YEARS AND NOT SEEK THAT OPEN KENTUCKY U.S. SENATE SEAT. >> I'M RUNNING TO BE THE GOVERNOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY AND HELP SERVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS DECADE AS THE GOVERNOR. WE HAVE HAD FAILED LEADERSHIP FROM ANDY BESHEAR. LOCKDOWNS AND SHUTDOWNS, DEMORALIZATION OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY, HIGHER MURDER RATES IN OUR LARGEST CITIES. WE NEED NEW DIRECTION SOMEONE WHO REFLECTS THE VALUES OF THE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN OF ALL 120 COUNTIES. THAT IS WHY I'M RUNNING AND WHY PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP ENDORSED THIS CAMPAIGN AND 100 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS ENDORSED THIS CAMPAIGN. >> Renee: HAS ANY MEMBER OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ENDORSED THIS CAMPAIGN? >> HUFF AND -- THE LIST GOES ON OF INDIVIDUALS. >> Renee: AMBASSADOR CRAFT WELCOME. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> THIS IS YOUR FIRST GO AT ELECTED POLITICS. YOU'VE BEEN IN APPOINTED POSITIONS AND WE'LL HEAR MORE LATER ABOUT THE WHAT. WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THE WHY. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW YOUR BEST SUITED TO BE GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY? >> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO THE AUDIENCE THAT IS WATCHING THIS EVENING. AND I WAS REMINDED UPON MY ARRIVAL THIS EVENING WITH OVER 100 PEOPLE. WE WILL COAL MINERS, WE HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE HAD STUDENTS FROM COMMONWEALTH BAPTIST COLLEGE, WE HAD STUDENTS FROM CLAYS MILL BAPTIST CHURCH AND WE HAD CHURCH. THIS IS WHY I'M RUNNING. IT IS MORE THAN JUST THIS ELECTION IT'S FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. AND THE ISSUES I'VE TALKED ABOUT I'VE BEEN TRAVELING THE STATE. I JUST HAD MY 100TH KITCHEN TABLE EVENT LAST EVENING I I'VE BEEN TRAVELING THE STATE LISTENING TO KENTUCKIANS AND THEIR ISSUES I WILL TAKE THEIR VOICE TO FRANKFURT. THE ISSUES THEY SPEAK ABOUT, EDUCATION, I UNDERSTAND EDUCATION. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF REMOVING THE WOKE IDEOLOGIES OF REMOVING ANYTHING THAT IS AN OBSTACLE BETWEEN OUR CHILDREN, OUR TEACHES AND OUR PARENTS. >> Renee: I WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT. YOUR CAMPAIGN IN THE AD SEEMED TO EMBRACE NATIONALLY TRENDING MESSAGES AND ISSUES SUCH AS CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND TRANSGENDER ISSUES AND MANY KENTUCKIANS BELIEVE THOSE ISSUES ARE FAR REMOVED FROM THEIR ORDINARY DAILY LIVES AND THEY ARE SAYING PERHAPS YOU ARE FEEDING INTO AN FUELING THE CULTURE WARS THAT ARE PART OF THE POLITICAL DIVISION THAT WE SEE SO MUCH NOW. TO THAT CRITICISM, WHY HAVE YOU LEANED INTO THOSE ISSUES MORE THAN KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES LIKE THE CHE OR WORKFORCE? ECONOMY OR WORKFORCE? I'M LEANING INTO ISSUES I'M HEARING AT PEOPLE'S KITCHEN TABLES. PARENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ENGAGED IN THEIR CHILD'S EDUCATION. AND CHILDREN DESERVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR PARENTS ENGAGED IN THEIR EDUCATION. I HAVE TEACHERS AND PARENTS REACHING OUT TO ME SENDING ME READING MATERIAL, BOOKS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THEIR LIBRARY, THAT I COULDN'T READ ON TELEVISION NOR SAY ON RADIO BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN F.C.C. VIOLATION. WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR TEACHERS WHO HAVE A PASSION TO TEACH THE POWER TO BE ABLE TO TEACH SKILLS, KNOWLEDGE, ARITHMETIC, WRITING HOPEFULLY CURSIVE AND READING, RESPONSIBILITY. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT POWER. THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE SPENT THEIR ENTIRE CAREER DOING. I JUST MET WITH A FOOTBALL COACH FROM BRYANT STATION WHO TEACHES MATH HE WANTS NOTHING MORE THAN TO BE ABLE TO TEACH HIS STUDENTS SO THEY CAN REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. >> Renee: AND IN 2019 WHEN REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR MATT BEVIN WENT AFTER PUBLIC EDUCATION AND EDUCATORS WE SAW HOW THAT ENDED UP AND HE LOST TO ANDY BESHEAR BY 5,000 VOTES. DO YOU FEAR YOU ARE SENDING A MESSAGE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT COULD ENDER YOU THE SAME FATE? >> MY MOM WAS A TEACHER. WE HAVE COPARTNERED AND CREATED THE CRAFT ACADEMY THE MOREHEAD STATE UNIVERSITY. EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT TO ME. I'M SPEAKING WITH TEACHERS, I'M SPEAKING WITH PARENTS, THEY ALL WANT THE SAME THING. THEY WANT THEIR STUDENTS, OUR CHILDREN, OUR GRANDCHILDREN, TO BE TAUGHT SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE NOT TO BE TAUGHT THE WOKE IDEOLOGIES. THEY WANT TO HAVE KIDS HAVE AN EDUCATION WHERE THE SCHOOLS ARE FIT FOR THEM. NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN HAVE TO CHANGE THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO FIT WITH THIS BUREAUCRACY. >> Renee: I'M GOING TO GO NOW TO ALAN KECK WHO IS THE SOMERSET MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS YOUR FIRST STATE-WIDE CAMPAIGN. YOU WERE ELECTED SOMERSET MAYOR IN 2018 AND THE POPULATION IS ABOUT 12,000. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Renee: ARE YOU PREPARED TO BE THE STATE'S C.E.O. GIVEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE NOT SO MUCH EXPERIENCE IN ELECTED OFFICE AND WHAT TYPE OF VOTER ARE YOU TRYING TO APPEAL TO IN THIS RACE? >> I THINK I'M THE MOST QUALIFIED IT IS NOT A TRADITIONAL PATH. WE SEE THE NORMAL LADDER WHERE YOU RUN FOR OFFICE AND YOU PAY YOUR DUES AS YOU MENTIONED AND YOU RUN FOR GOVERNOR WE'VE SEEN IT ACROSS COUNTLESS ELECTIONS. MY PATH IS DIFFERENT. I AM A C.E.O. AND I WAS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE WE HELPED RUN A FAMILY BUSINESS. I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES OF THE ECONOMY FROM GROUND ZERO OF HIRING AND FIRING AND MAKING A PAYROLL. I'VE SIGNED THE FRONT OF PAYCHECKS THOUSANDS OF THEM AND I UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLE IN KENTUCKY IN THAT VAIN I TOOK THOSE SKILLS TO MAIN STREET AND WE PUT SOMERSET ON A ROCKET SHIP. WE ARE A TOP 10% IN POPULATION ONE OF THE LARGEST MUNICIPAL BUDGETS AND LIKE KENTUCKY'S ECONOMY WE WEREN'T GROWING LIKE THE COMMONWEALTH. AND I BUILT A TEAM I CAST VISION AND NOW SOMERSET IS. PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE ARE SAYING HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GETTING IT DONE? ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I'M IN THE RACE I WANT EVERYBODY ACROSS OUR STATE TO TELL OUR STORY AND TO START TO SUCCEED BECAUSE I'M SICK OF LOSING. I'M SICK OF GETTING OUR BUTT KICKED BY TENNESSEE, INDIANA AND OHIO. AM I QUALIFIED? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I AM THE MOST QUALIFIED. THIS IS A GREAT FIELD. THERE ARE QUALITY PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE RIGHT INTEREST AT HEART. BUT MY EXPERIENCE AIS UNIQUE AND OUR VISION IS UNIQUE AND WE'LL TELLING THAT STORY. >> Renee: YOU ARE UP AGAINST WELL RESOURCED COMPETITORS WHY WASN'T THAT ENOUGH TO DETER YOU TO GET INTO THE RACE? >> I CARE ABOUT THE ISSUES. WHEN WE LAUNCHED THE GAME PLAN I SAID WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER IN THIS RACE. I WILL NOT BE AS WELL FINANCED AS MY COMPETITORS I'M REMINDED OF THAT EVERYDAY BUT I WANT THE CONVERSATION TO BE ABOUT WHAT CAN TRANSFORM KENTUCKY. WHY ARE WE 44TH AND THE 48TH IN EVERYTHING? WHEN WE LAUNCHED ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY, ON EDUCATION AND PRO FAMILY POLICY, I'M HAPPY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS. WORKFORCE IS A SUBJECT THAT WE HEAR ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY NOW. EDUCATION IS A FOCAL POINT AS YOU MENTIONED AND IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE A STRONG KENTUCKY. I'M PROUD I'VE LED THE WAY IN THE DISCUSSIONS. ALAN KECK WILL MAKE SURE THESE THINGS REACH THE FINISH LINE. >> COMMISSIONER QUARELS THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO GO BACK WHEN YOU RAN FOR THE STATE HOUSE 2010, YOU SAID THAT YOUR WINNING MESSAGE WAS THEN ESSENTIALLY WHY KEEP SENDING THE SAME PEOPLE TO FRANKFURT IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THE STATE'S DIRECTION. FOR REPUBLICAN VOTERS WHO ARE STILL LOOKING FOR FRESH PERSPECTIVES AND LESS IMPRESSED BY ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES AND GOVERNOR INSIDERS WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER THEM? >> WELL, I HAVE EIGHT YEARS OF RUNNING THE SECOND LARGEST EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCY IN KENTUCKY. WE HAVE DONE IT SCANDAL FREE AND CUT THE BUDGET FIVE TIMES. I WORK WITH THE ASSEMBLY AND FOCUSED ON RESULTS AND WE NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY WHERE IS THE URGENCY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT DRAG DOWN KENTUCKY. WE HAVE EXTREME POVERTY. I SEE IT EVERY WEEK WHEN I TRAVEL KENTUCKY. THERE ARE PARTS OF OUR STATE THAT MIGHT REMIND FOLKS OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. WHERE IS THE URGENCY TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS? THE BESHEAR FAMILY DYNASTY HAS BEEN IN CONTROL OF OUR STATE IN SOME CAPACITY FOR 24 YEARS. AND WHAT HAPPENED? OUR PENSIONS ARE WEAKENED OUR EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES ARE THE SAME AND OUR RANKS HAVE NOT IMPROVES. I GREW UP DIFFERENTLY. MY DADDY WASN'T GOVERNOR I GREW UP ON A TOBACCO FARM AND EARNED MY WAY THROUGH STARTED WORKING AT AGE SIX FOR A DOLLAR AN HOUR. AND THAT IS THE NEXT WORK ETHIC I WILL BRING. WHEN BESHEAR SHUTDOWN OUR ECONOMY I AM THE FIRST PERSON ON THE STAGE TO TAKE HIM TO COURT WHEN HE REFUSED TO WORK WITH OUR AGRIBUSINESSES AND SUCCESSFULLY KEPT KENTUCKY OPEN. I HAVE 500 KENTUCKY OWNED [AUDIO INTERRUPTION] I'M TAKING A PLAY OUT OF RAND PAUL'S PLAYBOOK AND WORK ON THE GRASSROOTS. I HAVE 230 PLUS ENDORSEMENTS. I'M PROUD OF THAT. IT REFLECTS THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE GRASSROOTS CANDIDATE. I'M RUNNING TO UNITE OUR STATE. IT'S BEEN DECADES SINCE WE'VE HAD A GOVERNOR THAT WORKS WITH THE KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND WE NEED TO BE LOOKING BEYOND A ONE-YEAR OR TWO YEAR KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD MENTALITY. WE NEED A LONG-TERM GROWTH SET FIX PROBLEMS LET'S MAKE KENTUCKY THE BEST VERSION OF ITSELF GOVERNOR. >> Renee: AS YOU ATTEMPT TO TRY TO UNITE KENTUCKY DOES THAT MEAN YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE YOUR POSITIONS MORE TO THE CENTER? >> I GREW UP IN A FAMILY WHERE YOU VALUE YOUR VALUES YOU VALUE WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN. AND STAND STRONG WITH YOUR CONVICTIONS AND I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT... MOST KENTUCKIANS ARE CONSERVATIVES. BUT I HAVE THE TRACK RECORD OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. I'VE DONE IT AS AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER WE PASSED DOZENS OF BILLS. I WORK WITH THE KENTUCKY ASSEMBLY AND IT'S ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER. I WANT THIS RACE TO BE BASED OFF WHO HAS THE BEST IDEAS. I THINK WE AS KENTUCKIANS DESERVE THAT IN THIS PRIMARY. WE'RE GOING TO WORK HARD, I CHALLENGE KENTUCKIANS TO CHOOSE AND NOMINATE THE REPUBLICAN WHO HAS THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING ANDY BESHEAR. I AM THE MOST QUALIFIED IN THIS RACE AS A FORMER LEGISLATOR, EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCY HEAD AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WE CAN BEAT ANDY BESHEAR IN THE FALL IF I'M NOMINATED BECAUSE I CAN UNITE OUR STATE TOGETHER. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> Renee: YOU SAY YOU ARE RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR TO REPRESENT THE DISENCHANTED PEOPLE, UPSET WITH TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT YOU ARE REPUBLICAN WITH LIBERTARIAN LEANINGS YOU ARE FOR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU WORK TO DO FOR AS GOVERNOR? >> UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY, KENTUCKY HAS WAY TOO MANY PROBLEMS. I HAVE A MEME WE HAVE BEEN USING FOREVER WHICH SETS FORTH WHERE KENTUCKY RANKS IN NEARLY EVERY CATEGORY. AND IT'S SAD. THE REASON WHY I'M RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR I HOST AN EVENT UP IN NORTHERN KENTUCKY CALLED THE FREEDOM FEST, 8,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP TWO YEARS AGO. LAST YEAR 15,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP. AND PEOPLE STARTED ASKING ME THEY SAID ERIC WHY DON'T YOU RUN FOR GOVERNOR AND I DECIDE DECIDED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR. FIRST OFF, I AM THE NONCAREER POLITICIAN RUNNING FOR OFFICE FOR KENTUCKY GOVERNOR. I BRING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MINDSET TO KENTUCKY THAN THESE OTHER CANDIDATES DO. I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN LAW, BUSINESS, REAL ESTATE, MEDIA. BUT MY BIGGEST THING THAT I WANT TO DO IS TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE. I AM RUNNING TO BE THE VOICE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I MAY BE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE, BUT I ALSO HAVE THE LONGER TRACK RECORD FOR GENUINELY FIGHTING FOR PEOPLE. THEY TALK ABOUT THEY'VE DONE WHEN THEY WERE IN POLITICAL OFFICE FOR ALL THESE MANDATES AND AGAINST ANDY BESHEAR. THE LAW FIRM I AM ASSOCIATED FOUGHT TWO YEARS FOR FREE FOR 5,000 HEALTHCARE WORKERS DENSE A MANDATE. I WENT TO JAIL FIGHTING FOR VICTIMS OF A CINCINNATI DOCTOR WHO DID UNNECESSARY SPINE SURGERIES ON PEOPLE AND I WENT TO JAIL FOR CONTEMPT FIGHTING FOR THEM. I'M REPRESENTING THE TRUCKERS, THE WAITRESSES, THE MINERS, THE WORKERS, UNION OR NOT, ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING. I'M RUNNING FOR THEM. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS YOU MENTIONED ABOUT YOUR LAW BACKGROUND AND I WANT TO BRING UP THE POINT IN JUNE 17TH, 2021 AN OPINION AND ORDERED AND ISSUED BY THE KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT IN THE CASE OF CHARLES DETERS VERSUS THE BAR AND YOU DO NOT PROCESS THE REQUISITE FITNESS AND MORAL QUALIFICATION TO PRACTICE LAW. THE OPINION CONCLUSION STATES DETERS PRACTICE OF LAW IS NOT GOVERNED BY CONSTITUTION, RULE OF LAW OR PROCEDURE IT IS ANARCHY. GIVEN THAT DECISION BY THE STATE'S HIGHEST COURT WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU AS GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY? >> WELL, THE REALITY IS THE PEOPLE TRUST ME BECAUSE I FOUGHT THAT BATTLE. FIRST OFF, THAT COURT WHO ISSUED THAT OPINION IS A DEMOCRATIC COURT. THEY DON'T CARE FOR THE LIKES OF ME BECAUSE I FIGHT FOR PEOPLE. AND THAT INCLUDES FIGHTING AGAINST THE SYSTEM. I WILL SAY HERE ON KET ON STATE-WIDE TELEVISION THERE IS NO MORE CORRUPT SYSTEM THAN THE KENTUCKY COURT SYSTEM. THE LEGAL SYSTEM. THERE'S NO GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE CORRUPT THAN THE LAWYERS IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. BIG FIRM LAWYERS I BATTLE EVERYDAY. AND I TOOK THEM ON AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT. THE KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT DOESN'T LIKE ME, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T FOLLOW THEIR RULES. THEY ARE STUPID RULES THAT HOLD BACK PEOPLE GETTING THEIR JUSTICE MANY I WILL FIGHT FOR JUSTICE. I AM PROUD, I AM PROUD OF MY BATTLE AGAINST THE KENTUCKY BAR ASSOCIATION AND THE KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT. >> Renee: IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, YOU PLEADED GUILTY TO TWO COUNTS OF HARASSING COMMUNICATIONS AND A SINGLE COUNT OF MENACING ALL MISDEMEANORS AND YOU FACED A CHARGE OF CRIMINAL TRESPASSING AND THAT WAS DROPPED. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THOSE ACTIONS THAT LED UP TO THE CHARGES AND YOUR PLEADING? >> YES, I'M PROUD OF THAT AS WELL. AND LET ME EXPLAIN. SEE THE RANK-AND-FILE KENTUCKIANS GET ME. THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ALL ABOUT. THAT SITUATION THAT YOU BROUGHT UP INVOLVED MY NEPHEW TRYING TO HIT MY WIFE WITH HIS TRUCK AS HE DROVE BY HER ALL SUMMER LONG. ACTUALLY TRYING TO SCARE HER. I'M GETTING MY MAIL ONE DAY AND HE FLIPS ME OFF AND I HAD ENOUGH. I WENT AFTER HIM TO TELL HIM TO STOP. NEVER THREATENED HIM. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU KNOW WHAT MENACING IS IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY IF YOU SCARE SOMEBODY, IF YOU SCARE SOMEBODY SO I PLED GUILTY. IT IS MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. ALL THE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS, HOW MANY KENTUCKIANS WOULD PUT UP WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS HARASSING THEIR WIFE WITH A TRUCK ACTING LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO RUN OVER THEM? I DIDN'T AND I WON'T. I'LL NEVER PUT UP WITH IT. >> Renee: FINAL QUESTION TO YOU. TODAY YOU FILED AA LAWSUIT IN FAYETTE CIRCUIT COURT THAT IS CHALLENGING THE RESIDENCY OF AMBASSADOR KELLY CRAFT. WHAT ARE THE GROUNDS? >> THE GROUNDS ARE EVERYTHING IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND IT'S MY OPINION THAT BASED UPON THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT KELLY CRAFT HAS NOT LIVED IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY FOR A CONSECUTIVE PERIOD OF TIME OF SIX YEARS UNDER THE STATE CONSTITUTION. SHE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CREATED A LEGAL DOMICILE BUT THAT IS NOT IT. MY ROADMAP IS THE HUNTER BATES CASE. THE CASE HE GOT REMOVED BY AN OLDHAM COUNTY JUDGE HE WAS WORKING IN WASHINGTON D.C. ALL THE TIME. CLAIMED TO BE IN OLDHAM KENTUCKY CITIZEN IT IS MY BELIEF SHE IS NOT A RESIDENT OF KENTUCKY THAT SHE ACTUALLY LIVES IN OKLAHOMA AND THE LAWSUIT LAY IT IS OUT. >> Renee: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE LAWSUIT? >> WHAT THE LAWSUIT SAYS A RELIEF THRASH A JUDGE SAYS SHE IS NOT QUALIFIED BY RESIDENCY TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY. >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I WAS BORN IN KENTUCKY I WAS RAISED IN KENTUCKY. I GRADUATED FROM PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL AND UNIVERSIT UNIVERSITYF KENTUCKY. I RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE I HAVE A HOME HERE MY ONLY HOME. I PAY MY TAXES HERE. I WAS VETTED BY THE F.B.I., THE STATE DEPARTMENT, DONALD TRUMP AND THE U.S. SENATE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. ON MY CONFIRMATION PAPERS IT READS KELLY CRAFT OF KENTUCKY. I'VE BEEN TRAVELING THIS STATE AND NO ONE IS ASKING ME WHETHER OR NOT I AM A KENTUCKIAN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT I CARE ABOUT THEM. I AM TRAVELING AND I'M LISTENING TO THEIR ISSUES. AND I'M GOING TO TAKE THEIR ISSUES TAKE THEIR VOICE TO FRANKFURT. >> Renee: DO YOU HAVE DUAL RESIDENCY IN OKLAHOMA? >> NO, I DO NOT. >> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT WE KNOW YOU ARE PROBABLY CONCERNED ABOUT AND WE'LL START WITH REACTION TO THE LOUISVILLE MASS SHOOTING AND GUN LAWS AND POLICIES. I WILL TRY TO ALTERNATE. WE ARE I SHOULD SAY WE ARE ALL EXTENDING OUR WELL WISHES TO LMPD NICK WILT WHO CONTINUES TO SHOW PROGRESS THANKFULLY AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE HEAD IN THE BANK SHOOTING ON APRIL 10TH. TO YOU MS. CRAFT AND ASK YOU BESIDES GIVING THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND ACCOLADES FOR THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT'S QUICK RESPONSE THEY RESPONDED WITHIN THREE MINUTES OF GETTING THE FIRST CALL ABOUT THAT TRAGEDY DID YOU PAUSE YOUR CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES AND VISIT THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE TO SHARE IN THE COLLECTIVE GRIEF OF THAT COMMUNITY, WHY OR WHY NOT? >> I IMMEDIATELY TEXTED LOUISVILLE MAYOR GREENBURG TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES. WE WERE TRAVELING. I WAS TRAVELING WITH REILLY GAINS THAT DAY. AND SHE FELT KENTUCKY. BECAUSE SHE HAD JUST HAD THE HEARTACHE OF HAVING A SHOOTING IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE. SHE UNDERSTOOD THE HEARTACHE AND THE PAIN THAT KENTUCKIANS WERE SUFFERING. MY HEART GOES OUT TO THOSE AND I WANT TO SAY THAT OUR PROUD, BRAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT ARRIVED WITHIN THREE MINUTES. CITIZENS WERE HELPING LAW ENFORCEMENT. OUR EMT'S THEY WERE ABLE TO PREVENT ADDITIONAL TRAGEDY AND TO SAVE THE LIVES. BUT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE RESOURCES FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON RESOURCES TO HELP THEM TO MONITOR SOCIAL MEDIA, TO MONITOR OTHER DEVICES TO BE ABLE TO INTERCEPT. WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON OUR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. >> Renee: AND WHAT ABOUT FOCUSING ON GUN ACCESS AND GUN CONTROL. ARE YOU FOR ANY MEASURES THAT WOULD POSSIBLY HELP TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THESE INCIDENTS FROM HAPPENING? >> RENEE I'M NOT TOUCHING THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND DUE PROCESS. WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE FOLLOW THE RULES THAT ARE CURRENTLY WRITTEN. AND WE HAVE TO OPEN THE CONVERSATION OF MENTAL HEALTH OF MENTAL ILLNESS. >> Renee: A "FOX NEWS" POLL SHOWS MOST VOTERS FAVOR THE FOLLOWING PROPOSALS. 87% FAVOR REQUIRING CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ALL GUN BUYERS. 81% IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE LEGAL AGE TO BUY A GUN TO 21. 80% IN FAVOR OF REQUIRING MENTAL HEALTH CHECKS ON GUN BUYERS. 80% ARE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING POLICE TO TAKE GUNS FROM THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. 77% BY 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD. COMMISSIONER QUARELS DO YOU AGREE WITH ANY OF THOSE PROPOSALS WHEN IT COMES TO GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION? >> I TELL YOU WHAT I AGREE WITH IS WE NEED TO SHIFT THE FOCUS TO MENTAL HEALTH. I'VE ACTUAL -- >> Renee: THAT MEANS NO TO ANY OF THOSE PROPOSALS? >> I GOT MY FIRST GUN WHEN I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. I WAS TAUGHT HOW TO RESPECT FIRE FIREARMS AND I LEARNED HOW TO SHOOT IT THROUGH KENTUCKY 4H. WE NEED MORE GUN SAFETY TRAINING ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT GROW UP LEARNING ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IT'S ABOUT PERSONAL PROTECTION AND HUNTING MYSELF. >> Renee: WHAT ABOUT SAFETY LOCK BOXES? >> THINK THAT IS A PERSON DECISION FOR FAMILIES. THAT I THINK THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT COULD BE RESPECTED AND OUR DUE PROCESS RIGHTS BE RESPECTED. THE HOUSEHOLD I GREW UP IN IS LIKE COUNTLESS OTHER KENTUCKIANS I WAS PROUD MY DAD TAUGHT ME HOW TO SHOOT A GUN. BOUGHT HIM ONE FOR CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUSH GUN SAFETY AND 4H SPORTS AND HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITIONS IN KENTUCKY. WHAT WE DID AT THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE TWO YEARS WE STARTED RAISING HOPE KENTUCKY. WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS PROGRAM, THAT WE STARTED COLLABORATING WITH LOUISVILLE COLLEGE OF NURSING AND OTHERS THAT FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS. STRESS INDICATORS AND SUICIDE PREVENTION INCLUDING MARKERS THAT WOULD HELP IDENTIFY SELF HARM OR HARM TO OTHERS. WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE. I PULLED A HALF A MILLION GRANT FROM THE USDA, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PUT IN ANOTHER HALF MILLION I HAVE A PROGRAM ALREADY IN PLACE THAT I THINK WE CAN SCALE UPSTATE WIDE. AND WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THE STIGMA THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. >> Renee: SO FOR THOSE WHO DO SUFFER FROM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CARRY GUNS? >> BEFORE ANY KENTUCKIAN, BEFORE ANY AMERICAN HAS ANY RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM THEY ARE OWED THEIR DUE PROCESS RIGHTS WHICH IS ENSHRINED IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. >> Renee: Mr. KECK SAME KERS OF QUESTIONS TO YOU. >> THERE WERE A BUNCH I WILL START BY TALKING ABOUT WHAT I'VE DONE. WHEN THE WORLD SAID DEFUND THE POLICE WE DOUBLED DOWN AND ADDED A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE BUDGET. RESOURCES ARE NECESSARY. STATE-WIDE I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO 300 TROOPERS SHORT AND WE HAVE A GOVERNOR THAT TALKS ABOUT GIVING RAISES AND SENT THOSE TROOPERS TO CHURCHES ON EASTER SUNDAY WE HAVE TO BACK THE BADGE IN WORD AND DEED. THERE ARE COMMON SENSE THINGS. THE "FOX NEWS" POLL IS INTERESTING THEY POLLED A QUESTION THAT EXISTS WE HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. YOU HAVE TO PASS ONE TO BUY A GUN LEGALLY ANYWAY. AND SO THAT IS A MEASURE THAT IS ALREADY THERE. I DO THINK WE HAVE AN OLIVE BRANCH ON MURDER WEAPONS. I THINK IT'S INSANE THOSE ARE BEING SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BID BIDDER. >> Renee: WE KNOW THAT LOUISVILLE MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] >> IT IS A MURDER WEAPON AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT GRIEVING FAMILY KNOWING THAT THAT GUN IS GOING TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S MANTLE. I RECOGNIZE THE ARGUMENT IS WELL THAT MONEY IS GOING TO A SMALL POLICE DEPARTMENT. BE A BETTER LEADER AND FIND MORE MONEY. THAT IS HOW WE GAVE 40% RAISES TO POLICE OFFICERS. >> Renee: DO YOU FAVOR THAT MS. CRAFT? >> I'M NOT GOING TO TOUCH THE SECOND AMENDMENT OR DUE PROCESS. >> IT DOESN'T DISTURB THE SECOND AMENDMENT THEY CAN BUY A DIFFERENT GUN JUST DON'T BUY THE MURDER WEAPON. >> Renee: YOU ARE FINE WITH GUNS USED IN A COMMISSION IN AUCTION AND PUT BACK ON THE STREETS? >> I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM OUR POLICE. THEY ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME WITH RESOURCES, LACK OF RESOURCES, AND DEFUNDING THE POLICE I'M NOT GOING TO SEND THAT MESSAGE TO INDIVIDUALS THAT BENEFIT FROM THE SALE OF WEAPONS. >> COMMISSIONER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. >> THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS PASSED THAT BILL IT'S UNFAIR TO ASSOCIATE THAT WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY PERIOD. WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AND SECONDLY IF YOU GO TO THE KENTUCKY STATE POLICE.ORG WEBSITE THEY SAY THEY BENEFIT FROM THE SALES TO GIVE OFFICERS BODY ARMOR AND NECESSARY RESOURCES THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. >> Renee: ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF REPEAL OR NO, THOUGH THE LAW WAS PASSED? >> I RESPECT THE LAW PASSED. >> ARE YOU FINISHED Mr. KECK. >> NO, BUT I WILL SAVE IT FOR LATER. >> GENERAL CAMERON AND ASK YOU ABOUT THAT DO YOU FAVOR THE PROPOSALS THAT THE "FOX NEWS" POLL HAD PUT FORTH FOR THOSE RESPONDENTS TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SUPPORT? >> NO, I DON'T SUPPORT ANY GUN CONTROL. SECOND AMENDMENT IS ZACCARO SAINT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT IT FOR KENTUCKIANS ALL ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH. SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME IN LOUISVILLE THAT WANT TO SUPPORT GUN CONTROL. I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT. BUT BACK TO THE LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME, I OFFERED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A RENAL SOLUTION AND MEANT WE WOULD BE TAKING ACTION ON THIS ISSUE. AND THAT WAS TO PUT A KENTUCKY STATE POLICE POST IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. AGAIN IF WE HAVE A VIOLENT CRIME ISSUE, IF WE WANT TO TAKE A MEANINGFUL STEP TO ADDRESS IT, LET'S PUT A KENTUCKY STATE POLICE POST THERE. >> Renee: DID YOU TALK TO THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING THAT? >> LET ME SAY THIS. GOVERNOR BESHEAR CAME OUT AND SAID THAT COULDN'T DO THAT IT EXPRESSED A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH IS COMPLETELY ABSURD. YOU GO 40 MINUTES SOUTH TO ELIZABETHTOWN, KENTUCKY MY HOMETOWN THERE IS A KENTUCKY STATE POLICE POST IN ELIZABETHTOWN BUT NO ONE GOES AROUND AND SAID THAT THE WE DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE ELIZABETHTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IN FACT, THE HEAD OF THE LOUISVILLE FOP SAID WE NEED HELP ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH LABOR FORCE AND WORKFORCE WITH OUR LOUISVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> Renee: THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION WHERE WOULD THE STATE TROOPERS COME FROM? OTHER RURAL AREAS AND WOULDN'T THOSE RURAL AREAS SUFFER A SHORTAGE OF TROOPERS THEY NEED? >> THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT TO BE A LEADER. GOVERNOR BESHEAR SAT ON HIS HANDS THE LAST THREE YEARS. A GOOD AND STRONG GOVERNOR WOULD BE IN OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW ENCOURAGING AND RECRUITING FOLKS TO JOIN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT RANKS. BUT ANDY BESHEAR BECAUSE HE IS BEHOLDEN TO THE FAR LEFT OF HIS PARTY CAN SAY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO JOIN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY. THAT IS WHY OVER 100 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS HAVE ENDORSED MY CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT I WILL STAND UP FOR THEM. I WILL HELP IN MAKING SURE THAT WE BRING MORE KENTUCKY STATE POLICE INTO THE RANKS SO WE CAN HAVE A POLICE POST IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT GOVERNOR BESHEAR DID AND WE WILL HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE IN NOVEMBER. >> FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT BUT I HAVE A POSITION THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN EVERYBODY THAT IS SITTING ON THIS PLATFORM TONIGHT. I ASKED THE QUESTION WHEN PEOPLE DIE, IT'S ALWAYS SAD IT'S ALWAYS WRONG. BUT I ASK THE QUESTION DID THAT BANK IN LOUISVILLE DID THEY HAVE A POLICY AGAINST PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THAT BANK BEING ABLE TO CARRY A GUN WHILE THEY WORKED IN THAT BANK? I THINK THAT I STAND WITH KENTUCKIANS ACROSS THE STATE I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE GUN VIOLENCE THAT HAPPENS WHERE THE VIOLENCE COMES FROM THOSE SHOOTING AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING SHOT ARE NOT ARMED. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT AND PRAISE THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE FOR ENACTING THE LAW THAT GIVES US SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IN EVERY SCHOOL. I SUPPORT A LAW THAT WOULD ALLOW PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THERE'S CHILDREN TO ALLOW VETERANS, RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS, MILITARY PEOPLE TO BE ARMED. YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ABOUT THE GUN. IT'S ABOUT THE SHOOTER. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT JEFFERSON COUNTY. JEFFERSON COUNTY'S ISSUE IS A CRIME PROBLEM. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE HOW BAD JEFFERSON COUNTY'S CRIME PROBLEM IS. AND WHY IS IT BAD? BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE. AND GUESS WHAT? THERE'S CRIME EVERYPLACE. WHAT DO THEY FOCUS ON THEY FOCUS ON THE SHOOTING AT THE BANK NOT EVERYBODY ELSE GETTING SHOT EVERY NIGHT. >> Renee: SINCE YOU ARE A PROPONENT OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT, CAMPUS CARRY IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT ADJOURNED, THERE WAS PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO ALLOW THOSE OVER THE AGE OF 21 TO CARRY A GUN ON PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES. HOUSE BILL 542. IT DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE. DO YOU FAVOR A MEASURE THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE OVER THE AGE OF 21 TO CARRY ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND UNIVERSITIES? >> I SUPPORT IT 100%. WHEN YOU JOIN THE MILITARY YOU ARE YOUNGER THAN THAT, WHEN YOU ARE SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING TO COLLEGE AND YOU ARE 21 YOU ARE ABLE TO DRINK, 21-YEAR-OLD SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IF THERE IS A SHOOTING ON THAT CAMPUS. I PERSONALLY CARRY A .380 PISTOL AT ALL TIMES. NOT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS AGAINST THE RULES. I FEEL SAFE BECAUSE I'M ARMED. KENTUCKIANS FEEL SAFE WHEN THEY ARE ARMED AND THAT INCLUDES 21-YEAR-OLDS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES. >> Renee: GENERAL CAMERON YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT MEASURE? >> YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND A DIME'S BIT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US US ON THE ISSUE OF PROTECTING THE SECOND AMENDMENT. AGAIN, THIS LEGISLATION OR OTHERS WE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE IN THE POSITION OF PROTECTING THE SECOND AMENDMENT. >> Renee: EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND YOU BACK THE BLUE. BUT DURING THE COMMITTEE TESTIMONY, THERE WERE UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS WHO SAID WE'RE NOT FOR THIS. THE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS ARE NOT FOR THIS. AND EVEN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SAID THIS IS A PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE. THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE. GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU BACK THE BLUE IS NOT THAT INCON GRUNTD? >> MY LOYALTY IS FOR THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND OUR KENTUCKY CONSTITUTION AND OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT AND I WILL ALWAYS STAND FIRM FOR THAT AND THAT AS ATTORNEY GENERAL I'VE DONE. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION JUST TRIED TO CHANGE THE RULES TO REGULATE PISTOL BRACED STABILIZERS. I WENT WENT INTO FEDERAL COURT TO GET THAT STOPPED. MY ROLE AS THE TECHNOLOGY IS TO STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF ALL 120 COUNTIES. I DID THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC. AGAIN WHEN GOVERNOR BESHEAR TOLD YOU WHO WAS A WINNER AND WHO WAS A LOSER AND WHO WAS ESSENTIAL AND WHO WAS NONESSENTIAL, I WENT TO FEDERAL COURT AND GOT CHURCHES REOPENED. I'VE DONE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS I WILL STAND UP FOR YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS YOU NEED A FIGHTER TO BE YOUR NEXT GOVERNOR AND THAT IS ME. >> Renee: THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH DAYLIGHT. I WON'T WASTE A LOT OF TIME YOU AGREE WITH CAMPUS CARRY? >> I'M OPEN TO IT I SHOT WITH THE U.K. RIFLE TEAM ON CAMPUS. THEY PRODUCE OLYMPIANS. >> Renee: SO THAT IS A YES. >> I HAVE A STAFFER WHO IS 20 YEARS OLD, GOES TO U OF L AND THERE IS A SHOOTING WITHIN EARSHOT OF MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT I'D BE OPEN TO IT. >> YES, MA'AM? >> THE SECOND AMENDMENT DOES NOT END WHERE THE COLLEGE CAMPUS BEGINS. >> Renee: OK. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AND WE ARE GETTING QUESTIONS FROM VIEWERS. >> IT IS NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY UNIVERSITIES ARE OWNED BY TAXPAYERS. >> PROPERTY RIGHTS. >> Renee: WE ARE GETTING QUESTIONS FROM THE VIEWERS WE ARE GOING TO COMPILE THOSE IN A MOMENT. LET'S TALK ABOUT COVID. MORE THAN 18,000 KENTUCKIANS HAVE DIED FROM COVID SINCE 2020. SOME OF YOU ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE GOVERNOR AND RIGHT NOW DURING THIS CONVERSATION, SUED THE GOVERNOR WE KNOW ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BUT I HAVE TO ASK YOU, IF THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC IF THE ONSET OF THE PANDEMIC WHICH IS GLOBAL THAT SO MUCH WAS UNKNOWN, WOULD YOU HAVE PRACTICED ANY MITIGATION MEASURES SUCH AS FACE COVERINGS? COMMISSIONER QUARELS? >> NO, I THINK I GOT A CLEAR RECORD OF CHALLENGING THE GOVERNOR. AGAIN FIRST PERSON TO CHALLENGE HIM SUCCESSFULLY TO KEEP KENTUCKY'S ECONOMY OPEN. I ALSO THINK THAT RON DE SANTIS SHOWED US YOU CAN KEEP THE ECONOMY OPEN AND WALK AND CHEW BUBBLE GUM AT THE SAME TIME AND RAND PAUL WAS RIGHT I'M GRAD HE IS GOING AFTER Dr. FAUCI. THE ECONOMIC HARM THAT GOVERNOR BESHEAR HAS DONE TO KENTUCKY IS IRREPREHENSIBLE. HE SHUTDOWN FAMILY BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS AND VIOLATED OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS WHEN HE SENT POLICE TO OUR CHURCHES ON EASTER SUNDAY. >> Renee: WOULD YOU HAVE EVER USED MITIGATION MEASURES WHEN SO MUCH WAS UNKNOWN ABOUT THE DISEASE SUCH AS FACE COVERINGS? >> AT THE BEGINNING NOBODY KNEW MUCH ABOUT THIS NOVEL CORONAVIRUS. IN AGRICULTURE, WE DEAL WITH CORONAVIRUSES ALL THE TIME WITH OUR ANIMAL HEALTH. I'VE EXPERIENCED AND QUARANTINE PROTOCOL. ONE THING I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY I WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO OUR BUSINESS GROUPS. I WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO OUR RESTAURANTS HE SHUTDOWN TWICE. WE NEEDED TO HAVE COMMON SENSE THERE. AND I THINK THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR THAT HE RULED BY A COMMITTEE OF ONE AND OTHER STATES NEIGHBORING STATES HAD MORE FREEDOM DURING COVID. >> Renee: SAME QUESTION MAYOR KECK? >> WELL, I'VE LED DURING THIS FOLKS CAN LOOK AT MY RECORD AS MAYOR. I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SAME THINGS. I WAS TALKING THE PHONE CALLS CS FROM SINGLE MOMS WHO ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEY ARE ASKING ME HOW IN THE WORLD AM I SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE? I CAN'T GO TO WORK. I CAN'T GET AHOLD OF AN UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE SOMEHOW THAT HAS BEEN LOST IN THIS DISCUSSION. THE GRAVEST DISASTER OF THE BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION IS HE PUT PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS AND IT DIDN'T HAVE THE COMPETENCE TO GET THEM PAID. HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE? THEY WANTED THEIR GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING AND I DID. I COMMEND THE EFFORTS OF THE GENERAL ON CHURCHES. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE WAS A LOT OF SILENCE EXCEPT FROM ME ON APRIL 20TH, I SUBMITTED PLANS TO REOPEN OUR ECONOMY AND IT ENDED UP GETTING DONE 12 DAYS BEFORE RON DE SANTIS. WE SUBMITTED MORE IN MAY. I THINK THE FOLKS THE VOTERS OF KENTUCKY CAN LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND SEE. I HAD THE PHONE CALLS SAYING BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS HOW DARE YOU. AND I SAID WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS. PRESIDENT TRUMP WORE A MASK. HE OPENED OPEN WAKES WARP SPEED AND GET THE VACCINE DONE. THERE'S SO MUCH ON THIS ISSUE. THE NCAA TOURNAMENT WAS SHUTDOWN AND ACC FOOTBALL HAD STADIUMS HALF FULL. I WOULD CHALLENGE FOLKS. DPOOGLE ALAN KECK "FOX NEWS" AND WE TALKED ABOUT REOPENING STRATEGIES IN THE HEART LAND BEING DIFFERENT THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. WE LED IN THAT ISSUE AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE. >> Renee: AMBASSADOR CRAFT WE KNOW YOU ARE ALL PRO-LIFE AND MANY PEOPLE HAD THE QUESTION ABOUT PRO-LIFE VALUES EXTENDING BEYOND THE UNBORN. IF YOU WERE ELECTED WOULD YOU STRIVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN PROTECTING LIBERTIES AND PROTECTING LIFE BEYOND THE UNBORN IN CASE OF A GLOBAL HEALTH EMERGENCY SUCH AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED? >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE COVID TO THE SHUTDOWNS? >> Renee: SURE. >> GOVERNOR BESHEAR MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO SHUTDOWN OUR STATE. NOW, I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK AND TALK ABOUT THE FIRST TWO WEEKS BECAUSE WE WERE ALL FOLLOWING OUR PRESIDENTIAL OUR ADMINISTRATION'S GUIDELINES. BUT HE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION BEYOND THAT TO SHUTDOWN THE STATE. HE WAS GIVING UNCONDITIONAL, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS BASICALLY TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO WORK. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? KENTUCKY IS NUMBER ONE IN CHILD ABUSE. KENTUCKY. >> Renee: ARE YOU SAYING CHILD ABUSE RATES ARE UP BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWNS? >> BECAUSE CHILDREN WERE NOT IN SCHOOL WITH THE TEACHERS THAT CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THEM. CHILDREN WERE AT HOME AND HOME MANY TIMES WITHOUT PARENTS THERE OR WITH PARENTS THAT THE DRUG ABUSE ESCALATED. SO NOW WE HAVE CHILDREN WITHOUT PARENTS BECAUSE OF THE OVERDOSE DEATHS. WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN AND WE NEED TO BE LOOKING FORWARD AND BE PREPARED SO THAT WE WILL NEVER SHUTDOWN OUR SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT YET SEEN THE MENTAL HEALTH CONSEQUENCES THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE VERY POOR DECISIONS THAT THIS GOVERNOR MADE. >> Renee: WHAT WOULD YOU DO? IF THERE WERE TO BE ANOTHER GLOBAL HEALTH PANDEMIC, WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY? >> WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE NOTE FROM THE PAST. I WOULD MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE DO NOT SHUTDOWN OUR SCHOOLS, THAT WE DO NOT SHUTDOWN OUR BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR STATE WAS DAMAGED. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS SAME QUESTION? >> I'M SOMEBODY THAT BELIEVES THAT THE COVID QUOTE-UNQUOTE PANDEMIC WAS OVERBLOWN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. AND UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF LIVES WERE HARMED AND DAMAGED. WHAT DO WE KNOW NOW? WE KNOW THAT THEY PHONIED UP THE COVID DEATHS AND INJURIES. WE KNOW HOSPITALS WERE GETTING PAID EXTRA. THEY WERE GETTING PAID EXTRA MONEY IF SOMEBODY GOT COVID AND PAYING IF SOMEBODY DIED FROM COVID. I STAND WITH SCOTT ATLAS WHO WROTE A WONDERFUL BOOK WHAT WENT ON INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE. I WOULD NOT SHUTDOWN THIS STATE AT ALL UNLESS IT WAS THE BUBONIC PLAGUE. YOU GET IT YOU'RE GOING TO DIE. WE KNEW VERY EARLY ON CHILDREN WEREN'T GETTING COVID. AND IF THEY DID GET COVID THEY DIDN'T DIE. YOU HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO GETTING COVID AND YOU COULD HAVE SAID, HEY IF YOU ARE SICK, OVERWEIGHT, DIABETIC YOU GOT LUNG ISSUES YOU BE MORE CAREFUL. EVERYBODY ELSE WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE ROAD. THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE TO THE STATE OF KENTUCKY AND KENTUCKIANS AND THE SICKEST MOST EVIL THING THAT THIS GOVERNOR AND CORPORATE HEALTHCARE DID IS THEY MADE HEALTHCARE WORKERS DECIDE BETWEEN THEIR CAREER AND GETTING A VAX THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. AND IT IS THE WORST THING THAT'S EVER BEEN DONE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SINCE SLAVERY. >> Renee: GENERAL CAMERON THE LAST WORD AND WE'LL MOVE ON? >> I NEED A LITTLE BIT LONGER. LOOK, THE CHALLENGE WAS THAT AT THE BEGINNING THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BY ANDY BESHEAR LACKED COMMON SENSE. FOR INSTANCE AT SOME POINT HE TOLD FOLKS IF YOU LEFT THE STATE AND COME BACK YOU HAD TO QUARANTINE FOR A PERIOD OF 14-DAYS IF YOU LIVED IN NORTHERN KENTUCKY AND GO TO MOSTLY SUNNY AND BARBECUE THAT IS A 20 MINUTE RIDE WOULD GET YOU A 14-DAY QUARANTINE. IF YOU LIKED BARBECUE AND WANTED TO TRAVEL TO WEST KENTUCKY MOONLIGHT OR OLD HICKORY YOU COULD MAKE THAT TRIP AND DIDN'T HAVE TO QUARANTINE THAT DID NOT MAKE SENSE AND IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND I WENT INTO FEDERAL COURT AND GOT THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER OVERTURNED. AGAIN, HE SHUTDOWN CHURCHES HE SHUTDOWN SMALL BUSINESSES BUT BIG BUSINESSES GOT TO STAY OPEN. OUR VIEW MOST OF US WOULD AGREE IS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING ALLOW ONE SET OF FOLKS TO PLAY BY A SET OF RULES ALLOW EVERYBODY TO PLAY BY THE SAME RULES. HE PICKED WINNERS AND LOSERS AND WE'RE SUFFERING IT. >> Renee: NOW A SERIES OF QUESTIONS FROM VIEWERS. THIS IS FROM BOB: QUOTE HE SAYS YOU SAID YOU SUPPORT THE POLICE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOUISVILLE SHOOTING BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POLICE INJURED DURING THE INSURRECTION ON JANUARY 6TH? >> IS THAT FOR ME. >> Renee: THAT IS FOR YOU GENERAL CAMERON. >> JANUARY 6 WAS A DIFFICULT MOMENT. BUT AS I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, PRESIDENT TRUMP KNOWS THAT I AM A FIGHTER HERE IN KENTUCKY AND KNOWS I STAND UP FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND THERE'S NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL IN KENTUCKY EXCEPT MAYBE ONE THAT KELLY'S FOUND THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR. AND I AM GOING TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR THEM WHETHER SOMEONE ASKS A QUESTION LIKE THAT OR NOT I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO STAND UP FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY AND I THINK THEY KNOW I'VE HAD THEIR BACK. >> Renee: AND YOU CHARACTERIZED JANUARY 6 AS AN INSURRECTION? >> JANUARY 6 WAS A CHALLENGE AND WE'VE HAD PROTESTS. LOOK, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THERE WERE PROTESTS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY IN 2020 PEOPLE WERE BURNING DOWN BUILDINGS, DESTROYING HOMES, AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FIT INTO THE FAR LEFT'S NARRATIVE. WE NEED TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE. IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY IN LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY DURING 2020 AS WELL. >> Renee: THIS QUESTION I WANT TO START WITH MAYOR KECK ON. >> MAY I RESPOND. LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL APPRECIATING MERRICK GARLAND COMING INTO LOUISVILLE THIS WOKE DOJ ALLOWING MERRICK GARLAND OF SAYING I APPRECIATE HIM BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT HE'S GOING TO NOW OVERSEE THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT BACKING THE BLUE? WE NEED TO HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. I HAVE BEEN SITTING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT I'VE BEEN TRAVELING ACROSS THE STATE. AND I CANLE IT YOU WHAT THEY NEED THEY NEED RESOURCES. THEY NEED RESOURCES ON THE STREET WITH THEM AND THEY NEED RESOURCES WITHIN THEIR OFFICE. >> Renee: GENERAL CAMERON YOUR RESPONSE? >> KELLY'S BEEN SITTING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HAS ONE TO OPENLY AND PUBLICLY SUPPORT HER. I'VE GOT OVER 100 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT HAVE SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED THIS CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR. I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THEM WHETHER KELLY CRAFT SENDS $10 MILLION ATTACKING ME OR NOT. I'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT I WILL STAND FIRM FOR YOU AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOR WHETHER THEY PROTEST ON MY FRONT LAWN I'M DEMONSTRATED THAT. REGARDLY IN KELLY COMES UP WITH [INAUDIBLE] >> THE DOJ HAD A SEPARATE RESPONSIBILITY FROM WHAT WE DID IN TERMS OF OUR INVESTIGATION IN LOUISVILLE. I RESPECT THAT DECISION THAT THEY MADE. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT KELLY IS SOMEHOW MADE A DETERMINATION THAT I COULD HAVE STOOD AT THE OHIO RIVER AND TOLD THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THEY COULDN'T COME INTO THE STATE. SHE IS NAIVE OR DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS WORKED. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS? >> I AM THE ONLY PERSON RUNNING FOR KENTUCKY GOVERNOR WHO PUBLICLY SAID JANUARY 6 IS MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING AND THEY ARE POLITICAL PRISONERS. I WANT TO ASK MS. CRAFT SHE IS THE ONLY PERSON RUNNING FOR KENTUCKY GOVERNOR ON THIS PLATFORM TONIGHT WHO PRAISED ANDY BESHEAR'S HANDLING OF THE COVID PANDEMIC WHEN IT WAS GOING ON. AND SHE ACTUALLY SAID SHE WANTED TO LIFT HIM UP IN EVERYTHING ELSE. I WILL COME TO THE GENERAL'S DEFENSE. YOU KNOW WHAT? LOUISVILLE HAS ISSUES. HE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THEY HAD ISSUES. MERRICK GARLAND? SHE WANTS TO HIT HIM WITH MERRICK GARLAND? JOE BIDEN'S LEFT WING CORRUPT DOJ ATTORNEY GENERAL? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IS SHE GOING TO SIDE WITH HIM. PROBABLY BECAUSE SHE SIDES TO THE GLOBALISTS. >> Renee: TO THE FIRST ACCUSATION ABOUT LIFTING THE GOVERNOR UP. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY FOR A MINUTE. OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PRESS AND READ, IS CURRENTLY UNDER ETHICS INVESTIGATION. >> HOLD ON. HOLD ON. >> LET ME GIVE YOU THE FACTS THE FACTS ARE VERY CLEAR. OUR LEGISLATORS PASSED A RULE THAT BANS A GAMING COMPANY FROM BEING IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL ACCEPTED $129,000 IN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS. THE NEXT DAY, PACEMATIC USED THE STATE OF KENTUCKY IN THE COURTS. OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO KNEW THAT OUR LEGISLATORS BANNED PACEMATIC, CHOSE THOSE DONATIONS OVER REPRESENTING THE STATE OF KENTUCKY AGAINST THIS LAWSUIT. SO I BELIEVE THAT HE OWES THE STATE OF KENTUCKY AN EXPLANATION. >> Renee: GENERAL CAMERON YOUR EXPLANATION. >> THE FIRST IS THAT KELLY HAS NOT DONE HER HOMEWORK. AND THE FACT THAT KELLY WAS DESPERATE AND AGAIN, LOOK, THIS IS ALL COME ABOUT BECAUSE KELLY SPENT AS YOU KNOW, YOU SPENT SIX MONTHS TELLING FOLKS YOU WERE GOING TO GET THE DONALD TRUMP ENFORCEMENT YOU HAD HIM AT THE DERBY AND I GOT THE ENDORSEMENT AND YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN SCRAMBLING EVER SINCE. SO WHAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY IS SHE GOT SOMEBODY WHO LACKS CREDIBILITY TO FILE A COMPLAINT HE HAS HIS OWN CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS ON TOP OF THAT WHEN HE RAN FOR SCHOOL BOARD HE IS A WHITE GUY PRETENDED TO BE BLACK THIS IS WHO HAS FILED THIS BOGUS ETHICS COMPLAINT AGAINST ME. THE FIRST THING I AM RECUSED FROM THE CASE. AND THE SECOND THING AND KELLY ELUDED TO THIS. OUR OFFICE IS DEFENDING THE LEGISLATION THAT PURPORTEDLY WOULD HELP PACEMATIC. THIS IS A CRAZY NOTION. >> Renee: DID YOU NOT SIGN THE CHANGE OF VENUE FORM? >> I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING. WE ARE RECUSED FROM THIS CASE. BUT KELLY SPENT $10 MILLION ATTACKING ME. WHEN I'M THE NOMINEE I HOPE SHE WILL BE WILLING TO PART WITH MORE OF THAT MONEY TO HELP ME BEAT ANDY BESHEAR. >> EVERYBODY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS RUNNING FOR REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WHO IS DEFENDED DONALD TRUMP SINCE 2015. I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO IS AGAINST MITCH McCONNELL EVERYONE EXCEPT ME IS WORRIED ABOUT MITCH McCONNELL. I AM AGAINST MITCH McCONNELL I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO DEFENDED TRUMP. HE IS GETTING SUBPOENAS AND GETTING HIS HOUSE SEARCHED AND INDICTED. THE IMPEACHMENT AND EVERYTHING FOR FOUR YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN SILENT EXCEPT ME. I'VE SPOKEN UP FOR DONALD TRUMP FROM DAY ONE AND WHY I GOT THE TRUMP FOR BIKERS AND RANK-AND-FILE TRUMP VOTERS KNOW I AM THE TRUMP CANDIDATE. >> Renee: TRUMP DID NOT ENDORSE YOU HE ENDORSED DANIEL CAMERON. >> AND YOU KNOW HOW LOYAL I AM TO DONALD TRUMP? I'M STILL SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP. HE IS THE SITTING ATTORNEY GENERAL SO DONALD TRUMP DECIDED TO ENDORSE THE SITTING ATTORNEY GENERAL. >> Renee: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT TRUMP WON THE 2020 ELECTION? >> I AM THE ONLY PERSON ON THE STAGE THAT SAYS THEY'VE STOLE IT. >> I HAVE BEEN LEADING A COMMUNITY IN KENTUCKY TALKING ABOUT KENTUCKY ISSUES. I LOOK FOR A DAY WHEN WE DON'T WAIT FROM CRUMBS FOR WASHINGTON TO COME AND SAVE US. HONESTLY, THE LAST 10 MINUTES ARE WHY PEOPLE ARE SICK OF POLITICS IN AMERICA. HE SAID WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A PILE OF MONEY TO TEAR EACH OTHER DOWN I WANT TO LIFT UP KENTUCKY. >> KUMBAYA DOESN'T WORK. >> IT'S WORKED IN SOMERSET. >> NO IT HASN'T. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE? >> HE HAS BEEN PRESIDENT FOR YEARS. >> I THINK TRUMP WON KENTUCKY BIG AND ANY FRAUD IS ONE TOO MANY IN AMERICA. >> BUT THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS YES OR NO. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN IS OUR PRESIDENT. >> Renee: DID PRESIDENT BIDEN WIN THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE? >> DONALD TRUMP WON BIG IN KENTUCKY AND I THINK THERE'S REASON TO QUESTION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW IN VARIOUS CITIES AROUND THE UNITED STATES. BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO 2023. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT MATTERS TO KENTUCKIANS. >> Renee: AND THESE QUESTIONS MATTER TO KENTUCKIANS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING FROM KENTUCKIANS. >> YOU RECUSED YOURSELF SO WHY DIDN'T YOU RETURN THE 29,000 DOLLARS IN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PACEMATIC TO YOUR CAMPAIGN? AND THE 100,000 DONATION FROM PACEMATIC TO YOUR SUPER PACT? >> KELLY I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE SUPER PATH. AS I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A COORDINATION ISSUE WITH YOUR HUSBAND JOE CRAFT AND THAT IS UNDER INVESTIGATION RIGHT NOW. BUT BACK TO THE REAL POINT HERE. >> WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE MY HUSBAND OUT OF IT. >> Renee: MS. CRAFT I WANT YOU TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT THIS. APPARENTLY THERE WAS REPORTING THAT THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE COMMONWEALTH PACT A GROUP THAT IS SUPPORTING YOUR CAMPAIGN, IS YOUR HUSBAND JOE CRAFT WHO GAVE THE GROUP 1.5 MILLION. THE HEAD OF THE KENTUCKY REGISTRY OF ELECTION FINANCE SAID QUOTE IT CERTAINLY RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL COORDINATION BETWEEN YOUR CAMPAIGN AND THE PACT WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW. YOUR RESPONSE? >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. >> Renee: DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CONTRIBUTION? >> I DID NOT, NO I WAS NOT AWARE OF MY HUSBAND'S CONTRIBUTIONS. AND YOU KNOW FURTHERMORE, MEN FOR DECADES FOR DECADES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT STRONG WOMEN. AND LET ME TELL YOU I'VE BEEN SITTING AT KITCHEN TABLES WITH STRONG WOMEN. I'VE BEEN SITTING WITH THAT SINGLE MOM WHO IS WORKING TWO AND THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET. I'VE BEEN SITTING WITH A GRANDMOTHER RAISING HER GRANDCHILDREN WITH A VERY PROUD FEMALE VETERAN THAT SERVED OUR COUNTRY. I'VE BEEN SITTING WITH STRONG WOMEN. THEY ARE NOT ASKING ABOUT MY HUSBAND. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT? THAT SINGLE MOM THAT IS WORKING TWO AND THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET, SHE IS ASKING WHY ABLE-BODIED KENTUCKIANS ARE NOT WORKING. THAT GRANDMOTHER THAT IS RAISING HER GRANDSONS HER NAME IS DOROTHY. SHE IS ASKING WHEN AM I GOING TO STOP MAKING CHOICES BETWEEN MY UTILITY BILLS AND BUYING GROCERIES. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS YOUR COMMENT AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT. >> KELLY CRAFT IS SAYING MY HUSBAND ISN'T GOING TO BE IN THIS. HER HUSBAND IS FINANCING HER CAMPAIGN AND THEY ARE TRYING TO BUY THE GOVERNORSHIP AND YOU KNOW WHAT KELLY? YOU GOT A COMMERCIAL HITTING DANIEL CAMERON ABOUT HIS CONNECTIONS WITH MITCH McCONNELL. I'M READING FROM JOE TONIGHT MILLION DOLLAR CHECKS TO THE McCONNELL SENATE LEADERSHIP FUND BY JOE CRAFT. YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND PLAY BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL AISLE, DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN YOU TRY TO BUY POLITICIANS AND BUY KENTUCKY AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. >> Renee: RESPONSE AMBASSADOR CRAFT? >> I'VE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ELECT REPUBLICANS LEADERS IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. >> AND DEMOCRATS. >> AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. I HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY. MY HUSBAND AND I BOTH TO ELECT PRESIDENT TRUMP THE FIRST TIME. >> NO, YOU DIDN'T YOU PAID THE MONEY FOR THE AMBASSADORSHIP, YOU BOUGHT AN AMBASSADORSHIP. >> THAT WE PROTECT OUR STATE, WE PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY AND RULE OF LAW AND WE PROTECT KENTUCKIANS. >> WE NEEDED TO PROTECT KENTUCKIANS FROM AN OKLAHOMAN FROM FROM BUYING THE STATE. >> I'VE NOT SEEN YOU OUT SITTING AT PEOPLE'S TABLES. I'VE NOT SEEN YOU OUT TALKING TO PEOPLE AND LISTENING. >> KELLY I GIVE OUT MY PERSONAL CELLPHONE NUMBER TO EVERY KENTUCKIAN AND ANSWERED A MILLION QUESTIONS. DO YOU GIVE OUT YOUR PERSON CELLPHONE SO THEY CAN CALL YOU. >> Renee: LET'S STICK TO THE ISSUES. LET'S TALK ABOUT KENTUCKY ISSUES WE ARE GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT BUDGET AND TAX POLICY LET'S GO THERE AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A PROPOSAL ABOUT MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY AND WORK REQUIREMENTS. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNOR. AND COMMISSIONER QUARELS I WILL START WITH YOU IF THAT IS OK. AS YOU KNOW IF THE LAST COUPLE OF SESSIONS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THERE HAS BEEN A CHIPPING AWAY OF THE AUTHORITY AND POWER OF THE GOVERNOR AND GREATER ASSERTION OF LEGISLATIVE INDEPENDENCE THAT STARTED WITH GOVERNOR BROWN AND REACHED FULL TILT. THE GOVERNOR SUBMITS A BUDGET BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. THE GOVERNOR CAN SUBMIT HIS PRIORITIES AND THE STATE OF COMMONWEALTH BUT THAT CAN BE SHELVED AS WELL. IN THIS LAST BUDGET SESSION IN 2022 WE KNOW THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS SUBMITTED THEIR BUDGET A WEEK BEFORE THE GOVERNOR SUBMITTED HIS. GIVEN THE DIMINISHED ROLE AND AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNOR WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE IT AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE ROLE OF THE GOVERNOR ACTUALLY IS AND WOULD YOU ASSUME AS GOVERNOR? >> RENEE THANKS FOR GETTING US BACK ON TRACK. DANIEL BOON SAID IT MUST BE A KENTUCKY KIND OF PLACE AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS CANDIDATES TO TALK ABOUT BRING OUT THE BEST IN PEOPLE AND HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR KENTUCKY. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR THAT WE BRING OUT OUR BEST IDEAS AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO DO TONIGHT AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO. YES, AS GOVERNOR I WILL SUBMIT A BUDGET. THIS DECEMBER TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO CONSIDER. AND IT WILL DO NUMBER ONE IT WILL RETURN EVERY DOLLAR OF SEVERANCE TAX BACK TO THE COUNTIES FROM WHICH IT CAME FROM. SECONDLY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE STATE OR DEATH TAX WE ARE ONE OF 17 STATES THAT STILL HAS THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'VE PRO BUSINESS GROWTH TAX CODE. KENTUCKY RANKED ONE OF THE WORST PLACES TO RETIRE TO. WE HAVE TWO MAJOR MILITARIES INSTALLATIONS AND A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T WANT TO COME BACK TO KENTUCKY AFTER SERVING A LIFETIME IN UNIFORM. AS GOVERNOR, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. ONE REASON WHY THE HOUSE PASS PUT OUT A BUDGET BEFORE THE GOVERNOR DID IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR RIGHT NOW BESHEAR IS IRRELEVANT WITH THE KENTUCKY GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND HE PROVED IT THROUGH 90 VETOES AN HISTORIC HIGH. WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING TO BRING US TOGETHER. I AM A FORMER LEGISLATOR. IMAGINE A DAY WHEN WE HAVE A STATE OF STABILITY IN FRANKFURT, A GOVERNOR WHO SITS WITH LEGISLATIVE LEADERS OF BOTH PARTIES NOT IN JANUARY BUT IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER AND SAYS THESE ARE THE THREE TO FIVE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO HELP KENTUCKY IMPROVE UPON. I WANT TO BRING THAT STABILITY I AM THE IDEAS CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE. GIVE US A CHANCE BECAUSE WE NEED SOMEONE WHO BRINGS YOU GO TOGETHER. >> Renee: WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS MORE FUNDING AND WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS CUTTING? >> RIGHT NOW IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE OUR STEP DOWN APPROACH TOWARDS ELIMINATING THE STATE INCOME TAX THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO DO BUSINESS IN KENTUCKY. SAVE DOLLARS AND THE BACK POCKETS OF KENTUCKIANS. THAT IS STEP NUMBER ONE. >> Renee: DO YOU AGREE WITH THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX? >> AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE RESTRICTDED TO OCCUPATIONAL TAX, INSURANCE TAX AND PROPERTY TAX. BUT BEFORE WE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS PASSED WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE THE SIGNATURE OF THE GOVERNOR SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO THE GOVERNOR IS. IF THE CONSTITUTIONAL INITIATIVE IS PUT ON THE BALLOT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE INVEST IN PUBLIC EDUCATION, 47% OF THE STATE'S 14 BILLION BUDGET GOES TO K12 AND HIGHER EDUCATION AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A GOOD ROI ON EDUCATION IN KENTUCKY AND THAT INCLUDES A CONVERSATION ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION WHICH HAS NOT BEEN REFORMED FOR 26 YEARS. HOUSE BILL 1 IN 1997 AND THE COST OF EDUCATION IS AFFORDABLE AND THAT OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS ARE ALIGNED WITH WHAT EMPLOYERS ARE LOOKING FOR. >> Renee: DO YOU THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE REALIGNMENT WITH HIGHER-ED DID NOT GET A REFORM SINCE 1997 SEVERING THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES FROM U.K. >> THAT IS RIGHT. >> Renee: DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S NOT SERVING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WELL OR WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO CHANGE? >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE AS TAXPAYERS GET A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. WE NEED MORE VOCATIONAL AND TRADE JOBS IN KENTUCKY. WELDERS, HVAC, CARPENTERS, ELECTRICIANS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAMS ARE BETTER ALIGNED FOR CAREER PATHWAYS STARTING FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE UP. THERE IS A WELDING SCHOOL IN KENTUCKY UP IN FLEMING COUNTY THAT EVERY MONTH THERE IS A 20-YEAR-OLD KENTUCKIANS WHO HAS A STARTING SALARY OF $100,000 A YEAR. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF JOBS AND REALIGNMENT WE NEED TO PUSH OUT I HAVE A DOCTORATE IN EDUCATION I CAN BE THE EDUCATION GOVERNOR THAT CAN MAKE SURE WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WE ARE A SMALL STATE WITH BIG PROBLEMS WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST OUT OF OUR INVESTMENT. >> Renee: MAYOR KECK YOUR IDEAS ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION? >> WHY DO I WANT TO BE GOVERNOR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE POWER. LEADERS WILL GET THINGS DONE. I WANTED TO TRANSFORM THE KENTUCKY I LUNCH WE ARE NOT REACHING WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF. A GOOD LEADER IS GOING TO CAST VISION THEY THINK OF YEARS AND DECADES. >> Renee: GIVE US A CONCRETE EXAMPLE WHAT YOUR VISION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION LOOKS LIKE AND A BUDGET PRIORITY THAT YOU WOULD MAKE FRONT AND CENTER? >> I WOULD LOVE TO. LET'S START WITH THE BUDGET, LET'S LEAN INTO TOURISM AND ARTS. WE DID THAT IN SOMERSET. WE'VE HAD GROWTH AT THE COMMISSIONER SAID. PROPERTY TAX, INSURANCE, OCCUPATIONAL BECAUSE WE'VE GROWN OVER TWICE AS THE REST OF THE DAY. HIGHER-ED LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT BEING TOO LONG. THIS GUY IS A MACHINE HE DID 27 HOURS A SEMESTER AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT. SHOULD IS BE A THREE-YEAR PROGRAM. REDUCING THE COST AND THE TIME-FRAME SO FOLKS CAN GET TO WORK SINCE WE HAVE A WORKFORCE CRISIS. >> Renee: IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE COST YOU ALSO ANTE UP ON THE STATE FUNDING. >> SURE THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. I WILL GO BACK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEG MURDER WEAPONS TO BUY BODY ARMOR WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE FEWER MURDERS. >> Renee: HOW? >> WE ARE GOING TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOCUS ON HOPE AND OPPORTUNITY. PEOPLE COMMIT A CRIME BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE OPTIONS. >> Renee: HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY GIVE ME A STRATEGY? >> PRO FAMILY POLICY. WHY DOES THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LIFE STOP AT BIRTH. SHOULD WE GIVE PARENTAL LEAVE FOR THOSE STARTING A FAMILY. SHOULD WE FOCUS ON INCENTIVES FUNDING FOR CHILDCARE SO THE FAMILY UNIT GETS STRONGER. KENTUCKY CAN LEAD THE WAY. PRO FAMILY POLICY ALSO HELP REDUCE CRIME AND HELP OUR WORKFORCE AND OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM WILL BE STRONGER BECAUSE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES WON'T EXIST AS MUCH WHEN THAT FAMILY UNIT IS SECURE. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS? >> WELL, WE NEED A COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF OUR TAX SYSTEM. I HAVE LISTENED TO THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF KENTUCKIANS. THEY GET HIT WITH THE ANNUAL TAX ON THEIR VEHICLES. THEY GET HIT WITH THE DEATH TAX. THEY GET HIT WITH BUSINESS TAX, CORPORATE TAX MY CAMPAIGN IS LESS GOVERNMENT MORE FREEDOM. WE NEED MASSIVE TAX REFORM. >> Renee: WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? GIVE ME A SPECIFIC. >> NO INCOME TAX. >> Renee: AND THAT IS ON THE TRACK NOW. >> I TAKE GREAT EXCEPTION WITH RYAN IS A PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN. HE'S GOT HIS ROBOTIC SPEECH THAT HE GIVES BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN A TWO-TERM AGRICULTURE COMMISSIONER AND HE HAS TO FIND ANOTHER JOB SO HE IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR. I AM THE PERSON, RYAN, PUT OUT 200 POSITIONS AND PUT OUT 500 VIDEOS ON POSITIONS THERE IS NOT A CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR WHO HASN'T PUT OUT MORE POLICIES AND MORE POSITIONS. I DO 10 FACEBOOK LIVES A DAY. PEOPLE WILL GET TIRED OF SEEING THEM. AND HE IS STARTING TO COPY MY POLICIES. HE COPIED BY IDEA OF NO MORE THE GOVERNOR'S NAME ON THE ENTRY WAY. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED MASSIVE TAX REFORM AND YOU KNOW WHY? TO CREATE JOBS. LESS TAXES, LESS REGULATIONS WE CREATE JOBS. IF YOU TALK TO EASTERN KENTUCKY WESTERN KENTUCKY LOUISVILLE EVERYPLACE IT'S CALLED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S THE OLD RONALD REAGAN WAY YOU CUT TAXES AND CUT REGULATIONS AND THIS ECONOMY WOULD ROAR. NOT JUST FOR THE BIG CORPORATE COMPANIES, I'M TALKING ABOUT MAIN STREET, FAMILY BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? ALAN KECK IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT SIGNS A CHECK. I HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYER. I AM STILL AN EMPLOYER. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO MEET A PAYROLL. YOU CAN TALK TO ANY BUSINESSMAN IN KENTUCKY SMALL BUSINESS, MEDIUM, FAMILY AND THEY ARE TIRED OF THE REGULATIONS. THEY ARE TIRED OF THE BUREAUCRACY. THEY ARE TIRED OF THE TAXES. AND WHEN ANDY BESHEAR SHUTDOWN THE STATE, KELLY WAS TRYING TO SAY IT AND HER MIND WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE THE REALITY WAS IT WASN'T CHILD ABUSE PEOPLE COULD NOT GET THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT BECAUSE OF THE BUREAUCRACY. WE HAVE A BUREAUCRACY WITH DRIVER'S LICENSE. THE STATE OF KENTUCKY IS FILLED WITH A BUREAUCRATIC MESS AND I WILL GO IN THERE AND I WILL TEAR IT APART AND FIX IT. >> Renee: GENERAL CAMERON I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MS. CRAFT MENTIONED AND THAT'S ABOUT MEDICAID WORK REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE GET SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND YOU AT A RECENT STOP PROPOSED THAT. TALK ABOUT YOUR PROPOSAL AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW-UP. >> WELL, LOOK, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNOR EXPANDED MEDICAID A YEAR AGO AND WHAT HE DID WAS EXPAND IT TO ABLE-BODIED PARTICIPANTS. BEFORE THAT, MEDICAID WAS FOR MEDICALLY NECESSARY OR MEANS TESTED. BUT HE EXPANDED TO ABLED BODIED PARTICIPANTS BUT PUT NO WORK REQUIREMENT ON IT. AS ALL OF US HAVE STATED WE HAVE A WORKFORCE AND LABOR PARTICIPATION CRISIS IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY. IF WE HAVE SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ON-LINE WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING. I HEAR FROM FOLKS IN JOB RECRUITERS ACROSS KENTUCKY WHO SAY THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUTURE ABILITY TO FILL THESE JOBS BECAUSE OF THE ABYSMAL WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION RATE. SO IT'S MY VIEW THAT MEDICAID AND I THINK A LOT OF VIEWERS BELIEVE THIS, SHOULD BE A TRANSITORY PROGRAM UNLESS MEDICALLY NECESSARY OR MEANS TESTED. THOSE ABLED BODY PARTICIPANTS WE HAVE TO GET THEM BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO STAY ON MEDICAID FOR THEIR LIFE. >> Renee: GIVE US SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THE WORK REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE LIKE? COULD IT BE COMMUNITY SERVICE OR ENROLLED IN A HIGHER EDUCATION EXPERIENCE? AND THIS SOUNDS SIMILAR TO SOMETHING THAT GOVERNOR BEVIN TRIED. >> IT CAN BE VOLUNTEER. 20 HOURS. LOOK, AND LET ME JUST SAY TO THOSE LISTENING, IF YOU ARE A MOTHER WHO HAS A BABY AT HOME AND AREN'T ABLE TO GET OUT INTO THE WORKFORCE YET THAT IS OK. THIS IS NOT TARGETED OR APPLYING TO YOU. I WANT FOLKS THAT PARTICULARLY HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THE ABLE-BODIED COMMON I WENT THEM TO GO OUT INTO THE WORKFORCE AND HELP WITH OUR WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION RATE. >> Renee: IF THEY DON'T IT COULD AFFECT MEDICAID 100,000 KENTUCKIANS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET BACK INTO TH THE WORKFORCE. MEDICAID HAS TO BE A TRANSITORY PROGRAM IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SOMETHING FOR ABLE-BODIED INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY STAY ON FOR THEIR LIFE. >> Renee: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> I THINK MEDICAID SHOULD BE A PATHWAY FOR DIGNITY. IT NEEDS TO CREATE A PATHWAY FOR ABLE-BODIED KENTUCKIANS. THOSE WHO CAN WORK WHETHER IT'S MAKING CERTAIN THAT THEY APPLY FOR JOBS THAT THEY HAVE COMMUNITY SERVICE, THAT THEY ARE ATTENDING EDUCATION COURSES, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A PATHWAY TO TAKE THEM FROM POVERTY TO WORK. THAT'S DIGNITY. AND YOU KNOW I HAVE AN ECONOMIC PLAN. I NEGOTIATED THE LARGEST TRADE DEAL IN AMERICAN HISTORY. U.S. MCA, UNITED STATES MEXICO CANADA AGREEMENT. THAT TRADE DEAL BROUGHT MILLIONS OF JOBS TO AMERICA. IT PREVENTED US FROM OUTSOURCING JOBS TO CHINA. I WAS ABLE TO BRING THOUSANDS OF JOBS TO THE STATE OF KENTUCKY AND TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY FROM OUR FAMILY FARMS OUR SMALL, MEDIUM SIZED BUSINESSES. TO OUR AUTO MANUFACTURING AND KENTUCKY IS GOING TO HAVE AN ENERGY REVOLUTION. THIS COUNTRY IS. AND WE HAVE TO BE READY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE AND MORE ELECTRICITY AND THAT ELECTRICITY IS GOING TO BE HELPING FAMILIES GROW, CREATE JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT KENTUCKY HAS ABUNDANCE OF. WHAT IS OUR EDGE? FOSSIL-FUELS. >> Renee: I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF THAT CONVERSATION WE ARE ASKING OTHER KETS THEIR POSITION WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENERGY NEEDS OF KENTUCKY SHOULD IT BE EXTENDED MORE THAN JUST COAL? DO YOU EMBRACE NUCLEAR POWER? SOLAR RENEWABLE OPTIONS AS WELL? >> I EMBRACE WHAT IS GOING TO BE A FREE MARKET VALUE WHAT IS GOING TO GROW OUR ECONOMY AND RIGHT NOW KENTUCKY HAS AN EDGE WITH OUR FOSSIL-FUELS. YOU KNOW, I'M TIRED OF LOSING JOBS TO TENNESSEE. I WANT US TO WIN. IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE TENNESSEE WAS 20 YEARS AGO, HOW DID THEY GET TO WHERE THEY ARE TODAY? IT'S BECAUSE THEY ELECTED BUSINESS LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND HOW TO CREATE JOBS. I HAVE PERSONALLY MY FAMILY HAS CREATED THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN THIS STATE. I UNDERSTAND HOW TO CREATE JOBS. WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR FOSSIL-FUEL INDUSTRY, WHICH IS RELIABLE, AFFORDABLE, ABUNDANT WHETHER IT'S FOSSIL-FUELS, NUCLEAR, GAS, WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN WHATEVER IT IS PROVIDES KENTUCKY WITH THE LOWEST COST UTILITIES WITH THE ADVANTAGE WHEN WE'RE COMPETING WITH TENNESSEE, INDIANA, OHIO, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO WIN ON THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD. WE HAVE TO WIN IN THE ECONOMY. >> Renee: COMMISSIONER QUARELS. LET'S GO BACK TO THE OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT MEDICAID WORK REQUIREMENTS, FAVOR? >> I BELIEVE SO. WE NEED TO GET KENTUCKY BACK TO WORK AND STOP PEOPLE FROM SITTING AT HOME AND WATCHING NETFLIX ALL DAY. I GREW UP ON A FAMILY FARM THE CONCEPT OF NOT WORKING WAS NOT AN OPTION FOR ME. EVERYTHING I HAVE I'VE EARNED ON MY OWN AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT GREW UP THAT WAY. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO THINK LIKE YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE RAISED LIKE YOU. THAT IS WHO I AM AS A PERSON. I AM A HARD WORKER. FOR ME WHENEVER PEOPLE ARE HEALTHY ABLE-BODIED KENTUCKIANS IT TAKES AWAY FROM THOSE THAT TRULY DO NEED BENEFITS LIKE THE DISABLED AND THOSE THAT TRULY NEED HELP. I WORK WITH VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ALL THE TIME WITH MY FOOD INSECURITY INITIATIVE. HUNGER INITIATIVE WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET BACK TO WORK EMPLOYERS NEED IT. WE HAVE A 56% PARTICIPATION RATE AND WE NEED TO BE 70%. ON DAY ONE WE ARE GOING TO APPOINT A TASK FORCE THAT FOCUSES ON WORKFORCE IN KENTUCKY. IT'S ABOUT BENEFITS REFORM NUMBER TWO, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, NUMBER THREE, TRAINING BETWEEN JOB FROM JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT KENTUCKIANS ARE ADEQUATELY TRAINED. AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH OUR EMPLOYERS IN THE KENTUCKY CHAMBER TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY I BELIEVE IN AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ENERGY IS PRODUCED HERE IN AMERICA SO WE ARE NOT DEPENDING ON FOREIGN COUNTRIES FOR OUR FUEL OR ECONOMIC FREEDOM AND THAT INCLUDES EMBRACING THE NATURAL RESOURCES WHETHER IT'S COAL, TIMBER, ROBUST AGRICULTURE, AS WELL. AND THEN ONE THING IS SUSTAINABLE AVIATION FUEL. WE ARE AN AVIATION HUB OF THE UNITED STATES. LAST YEAR UNITED AIRLINES FILLED UP A PLANE FROM CHICAGO TO WASHINGTON D.C. AND RAN IT ON SOYBEAN BASED RENEWABLE FUEL. AND WE GROW A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF SOYBEANS IMAGINE THE DAY WHEN WE CAN REFINE THAT SOYBEAN INTO JET FUEL WITH NO STATE IS GOING AFTER THIS. THESE ARE THE BIG IDEAS THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING IN MY CAMPAIGN. SO WHY NOT HAVE HOMEGROWN AMERICAN KENTUCKY ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. >> Renee: AND DO YOU AGREE WITH BROADENING THAT ENERGY PORTFOLIO TO INCLUDE NUCLEAR AND SOLAR? >> YES, ALL THE ABOVE APPROACH. AS LONG AS IT'S FREE MARKET DRIVEN. >> Renee: MAYOR KECK? >> THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE I THINK MY LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN HE HAVE DENT. THE FOLKS I'M SHARING THE STAGE WITH TONIGHT HAD BEEN CANDIDATES FOR MONTHS WHEN I FILED. AND WE LAUNCHED WITH A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IDEA OF TAKING CARE OF THE WORKING POOR INSTEAD OF PAYING THOSE UNWILLING TO WORK. 100,000 PEOPLE THIS COULD AFFECT WE HAVE 160,000 UNFILLED JOBS. OUR UNEMPLOYMENT IS ZERO. AND IT IS ANOTHER AREA THAT I KEEP POINTING BACK TO IT, BUT IN SOMERSET WE'RE DOING REENTRY TRAINING IN OUR JAILS WE'RE TRAINING WOMEN HOW TO WELD AND THEY LEAVE WITH A CAREER. ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE MIGHT DISAGREE HE ADVOCATED TO PAY PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO WORK AND WE ARE FIGHTING THE GOVERNOR. >> SPEND OUR RESOURCES GETTING BACK TO WORK THAN SIT HOME AND DO NOTHING. >> AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO WORK. THEY DIDN'T NEED A BONUS. ABLE-BODIED KENTUCKIANS THEY NEED TO BE BACK TO WORK. THOSE THAT NEED SOME OF THAT BENEFIT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN A ONE-TIME STILL CHECK WE ARE TALKING A SAFETY NET NOT A HAMMOCK. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS? >> I'M FOR ALL THE ABOVE I'M AGAINST SOLAR FARMS I WANT KENTUCKY FARMS BEING FOR AGRICULTURE I'M FOR NUCLEAR ENERGY BUT WE HAVE TO PROTECT, COAL, COAL, COAL. I GET TIRED OF KELLY CLAIMING SHE CREATED JOBS WHEN IT IS HER HUSBAND THAT CREATED JOBS AND I FILED A LAUNDRY LIST SHE ACTS LIKE SHE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE. THEY DON'T HAVE ABOUT MINE MINERS THE NUMBER OF INFRACTIONS AND MISTREATMENT OF COAL MINERS IS LONG. >> HAVE YOU BEEN DOWN TO A COAL MINE? >> YES. >> THOSE ARE THE HARDEST. >> I GOT HARLEN COUNTY ROOTS YOU ARE FROM GLASGOW. >> EXCUSE ME. ALLOW ME TO SPEAK. KENTUCKIANS DESERVE MORE THAN THIS, ERIC. >> KELLY. >> KENTUCKIANS DESERVE CIVIL DISCOURSE. I'VE BEEN TRAVELING ACROSS THE STATE. >> YOU ATTACKED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND YOU RUN NEGATIVE ADS AND YOU DON'T LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS ON YOU AND PLAY THE WOMAN CARD. >> Renee: LET'S TURN BACK TO ISSUE WE HAVE 10 PRECIOUS MINUTES REMAINING. THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT EDUCATION WE WANT TO GET TO FIRST. HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THE CURRENT EDUCATION COMMISSIONER? CAN YOU DISMANTLE THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION? >> YES, YOU CAN. >> Renee: ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS A SEPARATE AGENCY THAT IS NOT UNDER CONTROL OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT THAT? >> YOU WILL WRITE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ASKING OUR LEGISLATORS TO RATIFY REORGANIZING THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. >> Renee: DOES ANYONE ELSE FAVOR THE DISMANTLING AND REFRESH BOOT? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> Mr. DETERS. >> GENERAL CAMERON. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT KELLY MEANS BY DISMANTLE WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMISSIONER AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IN JASON GLASS WHO GOES BEFORE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND TELLS THEM THAT IF A TEACHER AT ALL EXPRESSES ANY CONCERN OR RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE GENDER IDEOLOGY CURRICULUM THAT THEY NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER. THE RIGHT ANSWER IS THAT JASON GLASS NEEDS TO FIND ANOTHER JOB. AS THE NEXT GOVERNOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY I WILL MAKE SURE TO WORK WITH OUR LEGISLATURE TO APPOINT NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION THAT REFLECT OUR SLAULS THAT ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT READING, WRITING AND MATH AS OPPOSED TO SCHOOLS BEING INCUBATORS FOR PROGRESSIVE IDEAS AND THAT BOARD WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. >> Renee: PROGRESSIVE IDEAS WE'VE HEARD ABOUT WOKISM AND THERE IS CRITICAL RACE THEORY HAPPENING IN OUR SCHOOLS WHICH IT IS NOT. DO YOU HAVE PROOF OTHERWISE GENERAL CAMERON? >> LOOK, CRT IS A CURRICULUM I'M THINKING ABOUT AND TALKING ABOUT CRT AS AN IDEA. I KNOW IN A SCHOOL. >> Renee: BUT CRT YOU DO NOT HAVE PROVE. >> FOR INSTANCE IN 2020 STUDENTS IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NOT EVEN A HIGH SCHOOL IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WERE BEING ASKED TO ANALYZE THE BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS. NOW THEY ARE SPENDING RESOURCES AND SPECIAL TIME IN A CLASS ANALYZING THAT, DISCUSSING AND DEBATING THAT AS OPPOSED TO WORKING ON READING, WRITING AND MATH. SO YOU CAN SAY THAT CRT AS A CURRICULUM IS NOT IN SCHOOLS I'M SAYING THAT CLT AS AN IDEA IS CREEPING INTO OUR SCHOOLS. >> Renee: Mr. DETERS. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF CRT IS IN THE SCHOOL I OPPOSE IT. I'M FORESCHOOL CHOICE, CHAFORTER SKELS AND HOME SCHOOLS I WOULD FIRE GLASS BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. AND WHAT KELLY IS TRYING TO IMPLY IS THIS I'M GOING TO READ IT SHE CAN'T DO IT. BUT WE NEED A STRONG PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE GOING TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS. >> Renee: WELL AND EVEN SCHOOL CHOICE ADVOCATES WILL SAY AND THEY HAVE ON THIS PROGRAM, THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION TRADITIONAL PUBLIC EDUCATION WILL BE THE MAINSTREAM MOST USED MODALITY FOR EDUCATING KENTUCKY'S CHILDREN AND THE NATION'S CHILDREN. TO YOU Mr. QUARELS, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE REALITY OF WOKISM, WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS AND CRT AND THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT AND WHERE YOU STAND? >> WELL TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE I THINK WOKISM IS SYNONYMOUS WITH CANCEL CULTURE. WE NEED TO BE MORE ACCEPTING IN SOCIETY IF YOU MAKE ONE MISTAKE IN LIFE YOUR CAREER IS NOT OVER. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT PARENTS HAVE A SAY SO IN WHAT THEIR KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO IN THE CLASSROOM. I AM THE SON OF PUBLIC SCHOOLTEACHERS SHE SPENT 30 YEARS IN THE CLASSROOM. I CHERISH OUR TEACHERS THEY ARE TRYING TO TEACH AND RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS. I SUPPORT DISCIPLINE SO TEACHERS CAN TAKE CONTROL. >> Renee: THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LAST SESSION. >> I THINK ONE ITERATION HAS BEEN DONE AND IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE WE HAVE TO SEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. AND I'M ALSO A BIG SUPPORTER OF OUR HOME SCHOOL COMMUNITY IN KENTUCKY. WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THAT WE GIVE OUR TEACHERS A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT. I TALKED TO A TEACHER TODAY ON THE PHONE. >> Renee: MORE PAY. >> THAT IS PART OF IT. >> IT'S ABOUT HAVING A WORK ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY FEEL RESPECTED IN THE CLASSROOM. AND SIMILAR TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT WE HAVE A WORK ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY HAVE RESPECT FOR TEACH ANDS, RESPECT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THAT IS ONE THING WE NEED TO FOCUS ON NOT JUST TEACHER RECRUITMENT BUT RETENTION WHICH IS A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW WITHHOLDING ON TO THE TEACHERS THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYED. >> AND NOT TALK ABOUT IT IN AN ELECTION YEAR EVERY SINGLE DAY. >> IF YOU ARE A TEACHER AT HOME WATCHING THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO LIE TO YOU AND TELL YOU THAT WE DON'T APPRECIATE YOU AND RESPECT YOU. I'M MARRIED TO A SCHOOLTEACHERS, MACKENZIE CAMERON TOLD IN SCHOOLS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND I WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY THAT IS HERE WE VALUE YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND KNOW THAT THERE ARE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS WHETHER IT BE GOVERNOR DE SANTIS IN FLORIDA OR SANDERS IN ARKANSAS, ARE LEADING ON THE ISSUE OF EDUCATION. WHO ARE MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE PAY RAISES WHETHER IT BE STARTING SALARIES OR BUMPS THAT COME ALONG THE WAY. ANDY BESHEAR GIVES LIP SERVICE TO TEACHERS BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE YOUR BACK. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A TEACHER THAT IS AT ALL EXPRESSED ANY RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE GENDER IDEOLOGY CREEPING INTO THE SCHOOLS. >> Renee: TO THE POINT OF GOVERNOR BESHEAR HAD A 5% PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS BEFORE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE ALSO SUPPORTED. I WANT TO GO TO -- >> ON THAT POINT. THE PROBLEM THAT ANDY BESHEAR HAS AND THE REASON HE HAS DONE NOTHING OF CONSEQUENCE IN HIS FIRST TERM, IS TO THE POINT THAT A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN MAKING TODAY. HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE LEGISLATURE. >> YOU CANNOT ASK FOR A 5% RAISE ON AN ELECTION YEAR. WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR TEACHERS SALARIES EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. MY MOM WAS A TEACHER. I UNDERSTAND HOW TO BUILD A SCHOOL. WE HAVE THE CRAFT ACADEMY. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING TEACHERS THAT FEEL APPRECIATED. >> RENEE I DON'T KNOW IF KELLY WAS AGREEING WITH ME OR CUTTING ME OFF. >> Renee: Mr. KERK BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET Mr. KECK. >> I LIKE THAT IDEA. >> Renee: TALK TO US ABOUT ELEVATION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION AND WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES REMAINING, SCHOOL CHOICE ARE YOU FOR IT OR AGAINST IT AND HOW WOULD YOU INSURE THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT THEY DON'T JUST PICK THE STUDENTS HIGH PERFORMING AND ACCOUNT MEASURES WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCES? >> I THINK IT'S BEEN A LIE FROM THE LEFT FOR A LONGTIME THAT YOU CAN'T SUPPORT SCHOOL CHOICE AND PUBLIC SCHOOL. I AM THE PRODUCT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS MY THREE DAUGHTERS I LIVE PUBLIC SCHOOL EVERYDAY. AND THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THAT I SEE ABSOLUTELY ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY CARE DEEPLY AND IMMENSELY. ACCOUNTABILITY IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD DEMAND IN EXCHANGE FOR RAISES. KENTUCKIANS ARE SICK OF PROMISES FROM POLITICIANS AND THEY NEVER GET DELIVERED WHAT THE GOVERNOR WILL NOT TELL YOU HOW HE IS GOING TO FUND IT. THE FOLKS ON THIS PLATFORM WE WILL GROW AN ECONOMY TO ALLOW US TO PAY TEACHERS WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. >> I DECIDED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE HURTING. PEOPLE WHO NEED A CHAMPION TO FIGHT FOR THEM. THAT IS WHY I'M RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR. AND WHAT KENTUCKY NEEDS RIGHT NOW IS SOMEBODY THAT WILL FIGHT FOR YOU. WHO IS NOT A CAREER POLITICIAN, WHO UNDERSTANDS YOUR PLIGHT. I WANT TO BE YOUR VOICE. GET BEHIND ME, SUPPORT ME, VOTE FOR ME. AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY KENTUCKY DOES THINGS. WE'RE LAST IN ALMOST ANYTHING AND I WASN'T ON THE JOB. WE NEED TO MAKE KENTUCKY GREAT AGAIN. LET'S DO IT TOGETHER. >> Renee: 30 SECONDS GENERAL CAMERON FOR A CLOSING STATEMENT. >> TOGETHER YOU AND I CAN HAVE A BETTER AND BRIGHTER KENTUCKY. WE CAN HAVE ONE IN WHICH WE PRIORITIZE THE RIGHTS OF PARENTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES OF THEIR KIDS. WE CAN HAVE A COMMONWEALTH IN WHICH WE KEEP OUR STREETS SAFE FROM CRIME AND DRUGS WE CAN HAVE A COMMONWEALTH WHICH WE EMPOWER AND SUPPORT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY. THAT WE LOOK OUT FOR THE UNBORN OUR MOST VULNERABLE THAT IS THE TYPE OF COMMONWEALTH WE CAN HAVE. >> Renee: MS. CRAFT? >> I AM THE ONLY ONE WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT JOBS, WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT EDUCATION, AND WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT THIS DEADLY FENTANYL THE ONLY ONE THAT LIVED IT, EXPERIENCED IT AND CREATED IT. WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE FAMILY TABLE AND PUT GOD AT THE CENTER OF THE FAMILY TABLE THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING. >> MY MOM TAUGHT ME THAT A TEASPOON OF HONEY GOES FURTHER THAN A JAR OF VINEGAR. LET ME BE THE CANDIDATE THAT UNITES OUR STATE HAS THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING ANDY BESHEAR IN THE FALL. KENTUCKY HAS HAD A LOT OF ROUGH TIMES. WE RANK LOW IN EVERYTHING. SHE HAS WENT BETTER TEARS LET ME BE THE MAN THAT DRIVES THOSE TEARS AND UNITES OUR STATE. >> Renee: Mr. KECK. >> JUST LIKE PRESIDENT REAGAN ASKED ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? AND I WANT TO DO THE COMMON SENSE CHANGE AGENT AND SUGGESTS THAT WE CAN GET KENTUCKY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. >> Renee: I NEED ANOTHER HOUR TO GET TO EVERYTHING. WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. WE WILL HAVE MORE INTERVIEWS NEXT WEEK WITH CANDIDATES ON "KENTUCKY TONIGHT" AT 8:00 P.M. EASTERN AND JOIN US EACH WEEKNIGHT FOR KENTUCKY EDITION AND JOIN BILL BRYANT AND A PANEL OF JOURNALISTS ON "COMMENT ON KENTUCKY". THANK YOU FOR WATCHING AND TAKE GOOD CARE AND I WILL SEE YOU SOON. 8