WEBVTT 00:00.666 --> 00:02.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% Coming up on Kentucky Life... 00:02.366 --> 00:04.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% Journey into Mammoth Cave to unlock stories 00:04.900 --> 00:07.166 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% left on the walls  by Civil War soldiers. 00:07.766 --> 00:09.566 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% Visit Kentucky Wool Works 00:09.800 --> 00:11.533 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% where a passion  for sustainability 00:11.766 --> 00:14.533 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% and sheep farming combined  for some amazing works. 00:15.000 --> 00:17.300 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% Learn more about  the Frazier History Museum 00:17.533 --> 00:19.300 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% where the world meets Kentucky, 00:19.633 --> 00:21.833 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% and savor  a unique culinary fusion 00:22.066 --> 00:23.833 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% of local and Afghan cuisine 00:24.133 --> 00:26.800 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% at Owensboro's  Windy Hollow Biscuit House. 00:27.200 --> 00:30.066 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% All that's next on Kentucky Life. 00:30.400 --> 00:33.400 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:52.5% [intro music playing] 00:47.400 --> 00:49.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% Hey, everybody and welcome to Kentucky Life. 00:49.800 --> 00:51.200 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% áI'm your host, Chip Polston. 00:51.466 --> 00:53.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% áNow today I'm here with the Kentucky Life crew 00:53.966 --> 00:57.266 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% áat the Frazier History Museum in downtown Louisville. 00:57.666 --> 01:00.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% á It's billed as where the world  meets Kentucky, 01:00.333 --> 01:01.433 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% á where you can learn  about everything 01:01.666 --> 01:03.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% from great state rivalries, 01:03.800 --> 01:05.433 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% think cats  and cards on that one, 01:05.700 --> 01:09.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% to seeing George Washington's  actual long rifle. 01:09.333 --> 01:10.966 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% We'll learn more  about all this in a moment. 01:11.200 --> 01:13.833 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% áBut first, deep in the heart of Kentucky 01:14.066 --> 01:15.566 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% álies a world-renowned site 01:15.800 --> 01:18.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% áthat many of us are familiar with, Mammoth Cave. 01:18.800 --> 01:20.166 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:52.5% And not too long ago, 01:20.400 --> 01:23.133 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% I got to go on a remarkable adventure there. 01:23.600 --> 01:25.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% You see Mammoth Cave holds a treasure trove 01:26.000 --> 01:29.066 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% of human histories dating back literally thousands of years. 01:29.433 --> 01:31.200 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% But from the Civil War era, 01:31.433 --> 01:34.300 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% graffiti was left behind on cave walls 01:34.533 --> 01:36.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% from both Confederate and Union soldiers. 01:37.200 --> 01:39.500 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% And we got to see how researchers 01:39.766 --> 01:42.400 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% are taking what was scratched on cave walls 01:42.633 --> 01:44.500 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% more than 150 years ago 01:44.866 --> 01:46.900 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% and through some modern day detective work 01:47.233 --> 01:49.333 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% are finding the stories of soldiers 01:49.566 --> 01:51.133 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% who left their names behind. 01:51.533 --> 01:54.500 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:37.5% [music playing] 02:05.766 --> 02:06.733 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% Well, here we are outside 02:06.966 --> 02:08.766 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% of the main historic entrance to Mammoth Cave. 02:09.000 --> 02:09.966 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% This is Joe Douglas. 02:10.300 --> 02:12.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% He's a professor of History at Volunteer State College. 02:12.533 --> 02:14.033 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% Joe, thanks for being our guide today. 02:14.366 --> 02:15.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% You're welcome, Chip. I'm glad to be here. 02:15.966 --> 02:17.966 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:22.5% So, folks are probably used to seeing 02:18.200 --> 02:20.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% stalactites and stalagmites when they go down into caves. 02:21.333 --> 02:23.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% We're gonna see graffiti today. 02:23.533 --> 02:25.866 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% How common is something like that to be able to be seen? 02:26.366 --> 02:27.500 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Well, historic graffiti 02:27.733 --> 02:29.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% áis actually fairly common in caves, 02:29.566 --> 02:33.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% ábut Mammoth Cave has some of the best and a lot of it, 02:33.466 --> 02:35.600 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and people would write their names in the cave. 02:36.433 --> 02:38.400 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Not accepted today, don't do this today. 02:38.633 --> 02:39.766 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% -Chip: Right.  -But in the past, 02:40.000 --> 02:40.966 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% people did do that. 02:41.200 --> 02:42.700 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% And if it's more than 50 years old, 02:42.933 --> 02:44.766 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% the Park Service considers it historic 02:45.600 --> 02:47.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and we are interested in who those people were, 02:48.200 --> 02:49.166 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% why they were here, 02:49.400 --> 02:50.366 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% what they did when they were here. 02:50.600 --> 02:52.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So the cave itself really did gain prominence 02:52.900 --> 02:54.700 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% around the time of the Civil War. 02:55.033 --> 02:56.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% Why were soldiers in the cave? 02:57.000 --> 02:58.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% What was the draw for them to be down there? 02:58.966 --> 03:00.066 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% The cave was famous. 03:00.600 --> 03:02.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% By that period of time, 03:02.233 --> 03:04.266 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% many people were coming  to the cave already. 03:04.833 --> 03:07.866 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% We estimate probably 4,000  to 5,000 visitors were here 03:08.100 --> 03:09.066 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% in the summers normally. 03:09.300 --> 03:12.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% It had a lot of cultural  and personal significance 03:12.333 --> 03:13.400 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% to the people who came here. 03:13.633 --> 03:14.600 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So they were here, they just wanted 03:14.833 --> 03:15.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% to go check it out because they heard about it. 03:16.133 --> 03:17.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% They heard about it. They wanted to see it. 03:17.966 --> 03:20.100 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% They wanted to write home  to their parents and others 03:20.366 --> 03:21.333 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% that they had seen the cave. 03:21.766 --> 03:23.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And they were also  a little bit possessive. 03:24.200 --> 03:26.666 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% It was a site  that was so famous. 03:26.900 --> 03:28.466 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% It would be prestigious 03:28.800 --> 03:31.266 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% if your side,  the Union or the Confederate, 03:31.533 --> 03:32.666 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% controlled it, owned it, 03:33.000 --> 03:34.800 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% could show it, and that sort of thing. 03:35.033 --> 03:36.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% Well, I want to go check it out. 03:36.233 --> 03:37.200 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% -You ready to go? -I'm ready. 03:37.433 --> 03:38.400 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% -Let's do it. -Let's go. 03:38.966 --> 03:41.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% [instrumental music playing] 03:48.200 --> 03:50.166 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% Chip: So, Joe,  Civil War soldiers 03:50.400 --> 03:52.966 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% who had lived  in the regimented life of camp, 03:53.600 --> 03:55.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% then they came upon a place like this, 03:55.800 --> 03:58.100 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% what was that like for them to go from that camp life 03:58.333 --> 03:59.933 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% to actually being in a cave like this? 04:00.233 --> 04:01.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% It was really great for them 04:01.833 --> 04:04.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% because it was a break,  a diversion away from the, 04:04.700 --> 04:06.433 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% as you said,  regimented life of camp. 04:07.366 --> 04:09.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% And it was different  from the landscapes 04:09.600 --> 04:10.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% that they were going through. 04:10.866 --> 04:12.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% It was just an unusual space. 04:13.300 --> 04:14.433 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% They really enjoyed it. 04:14.666 --> 04:17.233 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% It had interesting curiosities  to look at. 04:17.633 --> 04:20.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% [instrumental music playing] 04:24.466 --> 04:25.433 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% Chip: Why is this, 04:25.766 --> 04:27.666 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% as a result, historically important? 04:27.900 --> 04:30.066 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% And how different is it from a paper document 04:30.300 --> 04:31.600 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% or something that you might come across? 04:31.833 --> 04:34.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% What they write tends to be a little bit different 04:34.800 --> 04:35.766 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% than in a paper document. 04:36.000 --> 04:37.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% It tends to be spontaneous. 04:37.900 --> 04:39.700 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:42.5% It also tells us 04:39.933 --> 04:41.533 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% sort of what the soldiers  were thinking 04:41.766 --> 04:43.233 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% at a particular time. 04:43.500 --> 04:45.933 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% It must be remarkable  for local Kentuckians 04:46.166 --> 04:48.933 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% who can come in here and see their great, great grandfathers 04:49.166 --> 04:50.366 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% or grandmothers, 04:50.600 --> 04:51.700 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% because women came in the cave too, 04:51.933 --> 04:53.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% see their names written on the wall. 04:59.433 --> 05:02.266 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% Chip: So, Joe,  what was the real motivation 05:02.500 --> 05:04.833 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% for soldiers to want to leave  their mark in the cave? 05:05.066 --> 05:07.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Did they just want to say hello  and that they'd done it 05:07.500 --> 05:08.900 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% or was there  a bigger motivation there? 05:09.300 --> 05:11.233 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% Joe: Yes, they're trying  to simply show, 05:11.466 --> 05:12.433 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% I am here. 05:12.733 --> 05:14.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% It's also a mark of achievement 05:14.300 --> 05:16.166 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% -like, I made it back this far. -Right. 05:16.400 --> 05:17.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% Joe: But then there's  more than that, 05:17.966 --> 05:20.366 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% instead of identifying  with the hometown, 05:20.600 --> 05:22.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% they're identifying  with the regiment 05:22.500 --> 05:25.300 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% like the Indiana or Illinois  or Kentucky regiment 05:25.600 --> 05:26.566 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% that they're serving in. 05:27.000 --> 05:30.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% The Confederate names  are more concentrated 05:30.600 --> 05:33.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% because they generally  did not have guides. 05:33.266 --> 05:35.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% - They came in unaccompanied.  -Chip: Okay. 05:35.266 --> 05:36.233 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% Joe: So they tended to go 05:36.466 --> 05:38.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% to the easy-to-get-to  large areas. 05:38.800 --> 05:41.100 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% -Chip: Right.  -Joe: Later, the Union soldiers 05:41.333 --> 05:42.466 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% did employ guides. 05:42.833 --> 05:44.733 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% And so they're in some  of the more remote 05:44.966 --> 05:46.333 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% and distant areas. 05:47.166 --> 05:50.133 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% [dramatic music playing] 06:01.133 --> 06:05.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% So this is Thomas Quirk,  says, Lexington, 06:05.433 --> 06:08.100 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% then it says,  Morgan's Squadron 1862. 06:08.666 --> 06:10.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% Later, he becomes a scout,  a trusted scout, 06:11.200 --> 06:12.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% reported directly  to General Morgan 06:13.300 --> 06:15.600 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and they called it  Quirk's Scouts. 06:16.333 --> 06:19.700 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% And we found these two Confederate soldiers 06:19.933 --> 06:23.466 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% who are clearly identifiable and they put their unit. 06:24.266 --> 06:26.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% And this other one even wrote, Rebel Soldier. 06:26.866 --> 06:30.000 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% This is prepared, so this  is planned or pre-planned, 06:30.266 --> 06:33.066 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% he definitely darkened  the surface with the oil lamp. 06:33.566 --> 06:35.300 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% So you have the Confederates 06:35.533 --> 06:39.233 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% and then now the Union soldier  in the same spot contesting it. 06:39.500 --> 06:40.533 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% Chip: Separated by feet, 06:40.766 --> 06:42.066 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - basically. Wow.  -Joe: Mere feet. 06:42.766 --> 06:44.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Joe, how personally fulfilling is it 06:44.933 --> 06:46.833 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% when you have that eureka moment back here 06:47.066 --> 06:48.133 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% when you find a name 06:48.366 --> 06:49.833 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% and you're able to actually put that together 06:50.066 --> 06:52.233 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% with the historical record and learn who that person is? 06:52.466 --> 06:55.166 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% It's very exciting. It is like a detective story. 06:55.800 --> 06:58.600 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% We find the name, then we try  to locate who they are. 06:58.833 --> 07:00.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% Then we try to build  a biography of them. 07:00.866 --> 07:04.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% The Union soldiers are frankly easier to identify 07:04.500 --> 07:05.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% than the Confederate soldiers. 07:06.033 --> 07:07.333 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% We have the hotel register 07:07.566 --> 07:09.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% from the later stages  of the war 07:09.266 --> 07:10.800 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and they would write  their hometown 07:11.033 --> 07:12.000 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% or where they were going, 07:12.266 --> 07:14.033 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% and so we have  additional information. 07:16.333 --> 07:18.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% And you said they would take basically an oil lamp 07:19.066 --> 07:20.800 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% and use the flame from the oil lamp 07:21.200 --> 07:23.800 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% and guide that along to kind of delineate 07:24.033 --> 07:25.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% what the thing was  they were trying to draw. 07:25.466 --> 07:26.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% Joe: That's right.  So they had oil lamps 07:27.166 --> 07:28.166 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% with chimneys on them 07:28.600 --> 07:31.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% and you could use that to leave  the mark where you wanted it. 07:31.400 --> 07:32.633 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% You could use candles. 07:32.866 --> 07:34.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Some of them would  actually use torches. 07:35.000 --> 07:37.500 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% And of course,  pencils were easy to carry, 07:37.733 --> 07:39.766 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% widely available by the time of the Civil War, 07:40.066 --> 07:41.966 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% and so you see a lot of pencil marks as well. 07:48.500 --> 07:50.933 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% Joe, how is it that we can still see 07:51.400 --> 07:52.433 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% pencil marks 07:52.733 --> 07:54.400 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% that are close to 200 years old? 07:54.633 --> 07:55.733 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:22.5% And some  of these other markings 07:55.966 --> 07:56.933 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% that are here in the cave, 07:57.166 --> 07:58.333 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% they look  like they were done yesterday, 07:58.566 --> 07:59.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% but they're several  100 years old. 07:59.766 --> 08:00.900 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% Why can we still see those? 08:01.466 --> 08:02.933 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% Joe: We're far enough in the cave now 08:03.166 --> 08:04.866 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% that this  is a very stable environment, 08:05.200 --> 08:06.666 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% the temperature  doesn't fluctuate, 08:06.900 --> 08:08.233 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% the humidity doesn't fluctuate. 08:08.466 --> 08:11.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% There's no exposure  to sunlight or UV. 08:11.900 --> 08:14.433 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% There's no rain,  there's no erosion. 08:14.800 --> 08:16.866 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% And so it will remain  down here, 08:17.466 --> 08:18.900 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% I mean, almost indefinitely. 08:19.400 --> 08:21.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% They are a record,  a historical, 08:21.666 --> 08:23.233 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% and frankly genealogical record, 08:23.466 --> 08:24.966 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% -which has often been ignored. -Wow. 08:27.333 --> 08:28.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% Of the thousands of names 08:28.833 --> 08:30.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% written on the walls  in Mammoth Cave, 08:30.766 --> 08:34.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% researchers have identified  more than 40 Civil War soldiers 08:35.066 --> 08:37.766 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% with many more  waiting to be discovered. 08:39.333 --> 08:42.133 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% Shon Wylie and Kathy Meyer became friends 08:42.366 --> 08:44.033 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% over a shared love of sheep 08:44.266 --> 08:46.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% as sheep farmers are want to do. 08:46.766 --> 08:49.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% What came next though was an idea for a company, 08:49.400 --> 08:52.500 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% Kentucky Wool Works, that illustrates their passion 08:52.800 --> 08:53.900 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% for sustainability 08:54.133 --> 08:56.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and the reclaiming of discarded things. 08:56.566 --> 08:59.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Now, Sean and Cathy believe in responsible farming. 08:59.433 --> 09:01.466 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% They believe in reusing materials 09:01.700 --> 09:03.166 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% destined for a landfill. 09:03.533 --> 09:06.200 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% And of course, they believe in sheep. 09:13.500 --> 09:18.133 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% Shon: To me, natural fiber  only gets better with age. 09:18.366 --> 09:19.633 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% áWhy throw it away? 09:19.866 --> 09:21.666 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% áLet's just repurpose it. 09:21.900 --> 09:26.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% Let's create something new  out of something old, 09:26.300 --> 09:28.000 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% the fabric is so beautiful. 09:28.966 --> 09:30.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Kathy: The way to be profitable 09:30.733 --> 09:32.833 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% for a farmer  is to be sustainable. 09:33.266 --> 09:35.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And there's really no other livestock 09:36.266 --> 09:39.866 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% in the world that is anymore sustainable than the sheep. 09:56.266 --> 09:57.833 align:start position:45% line:79.33% size:12.5% Shon: I'm come checking on Heather. 09:58.900 --> 09:59.933 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Actually, it's good. 10:00.666 --> 10:04.233 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% This is the first rinse here. 10:06.066 --> 10:07.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Where are these two in the process? 10:08.133 --> 10:10.833 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% They have already gone through the rinse 10:11.066 --> 10:13.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and then gone through, so I drained them. 10:15.833 --> 10:16.800 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:32.5% [dog barking] 10:17.766 --> 10:18.733 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% [birds chirping] 10:19.500 --> 10:23.266 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Shon: So my background  was as a journalism major 10:23.500 --> 10:25.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% and then I worked for several years 10:25.566 --> 10:26.766 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% in the racing industry. 10:27.766 --> 10:30.400 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% When my husband  and I decided to add sheep 10:30.633 --> 10:32.266 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% into the mix on our farm, 10:32.500 --> 10:35.600 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:20% we went  to the UK's UProfit program 10:35.833 --> 10:38.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and we were immediately  hooked up with Kathy, 10:38.800 --> 10:41.700 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% who we were told was our very local expert. 10:43.866 --> 10:47.100 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% I like mentoring new sheep people. 10:47.600 --> 10:52.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I have about 43 years  of sheep production, 10:54.233 --> 10:57.600 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% dos and don'ts  filed away in my head. 10:59.366 --> 11:02.166 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% áAnd after we talked about it 11:02.400 --> 11:04.366 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% á and talked  about the possibilities, 11:04.600 --> 11:06.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% we decided that we needed to, 11:06.800 --> 11:09.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% to take this leap  and do this business 11:10.166 --> 11:11.833 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% and educate people. 11:12.066 --> 11:15.400 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% And by golly, we have done that. 11:19.566 --> 11:20.533 align:start position:45% line:79.33% size:12.5% Shon: This is what it looks like 11:20.766 --> 11:22.533 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% coming directly off  of the sheep. 11:25.066 --> 11:29.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Kathy: What we do here  is we repurpose natural fibers 11:29.233 --> 11:31.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% that would otherwise  end up in landfills. 11:32.033 --> 11:34.666 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% Old blankets that people send to Goodwill, 11:34.900 --> 11:36.433 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% that's a treasure to us. 11:37.233 --> 11:40.833 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% We can take a wool blanket  with some moth holes 11:41.066 --> 11:44.766 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% and turn it  into a dog coat or a... 11:45.933 --> 11:47.833 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% What we decide to call this, Angela? 11:48.066 --> 11:49.233 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:42.5% A Japanese shawl? 11:49.466 --> 11:50.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% Yeah, it's a Japanese shawl. 11:50.900 --> 11:52.033 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% It's a circle shawl. 11:52.266 --> 11:54.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% -A Japanese circle shawl. -Mm-hm. 11:54.900 --> 11:58.166 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% We can combine that natural fiber 11:59.033 --> 12:02.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% and that fabric that was headed  for the landfill 12:03.333 --> 12:06.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and make a product  that is very wanted 12:06.900 --> 12:11.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% by people who are conscious about the environment. 12:13.333 --> 12:14.866 align:start position:45% line:79.33% size:12.5% Shon: So we're here in the basement 12:15.100 --> 12:16.233 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:42.5% of McIntyre Hall, 12:16.466 --> 12:19.133 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% which is one of the very historic buildings 12:19.366 --> 12:22.233 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% on the campus of what used to be 12:22.466 --> 12:24.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% the Millersburg  Military Institute 12:24.566 --> 12:26.833 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% and is now known  as Mustard Seed Hill. 12:27.066 --> 12:30.866 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% Mustard Seed Hill is part of Community Ventures' 12:31.366 --> 12:35.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% revitalization effort of Millersburg, the whole town. 12:35.666 --> 12:37.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% When they renovated the building, 12:38.333 --> 12:41.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% they specifically created the space for us 12:41.900 --> 12:43.533 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% with floors that can get wet, 12:43.766 --> 12:46.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% a commercial sink where we can process our fleece. 12:46.733 --> 12:50.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% And yeah, the fact that that we're in the business 12:51.066 --> 12:56.266 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% of sustainable natural fiber and reclaiming fabrics 12:56.500 --> 12:58.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% does go hand in hand with a town 12:58.800 --> 12:59.933 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% that is being reclaimed. 13:01.233 --> 13:02.200 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% [birds chirping] 13:05.100 --> 13:06.066 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% [sheep bleating] 13:06.633 --> 13:07.600 align:start position:45% line:84.67% size:12.5% Away. 13:11.133 --> 13:14.266 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% Actual sustainability to me  is a product 13:14.500 --> 13:18.433 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% that is naturally occurring 13:18.833 --> 13:21.700 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and there's not much  more naturally occurring 13:22.166 --> 13:24.333 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% than the wool  on the back of my sheep. 13:25.133 --> 13:26.100 align:start position:45% line:84.67% size:12.5% Stay! 13:27.366 --> 13:32.666 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% They're the most efficient  converters of grass, water 13:33.100 --> 13:37.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% to meat, milk and fiber  that there is on the planet. 13:38.700 --> 13:40.066 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% And that is my job. 13:40.666 --> 13:43.600 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% I manage all these  little factories 13:43.833 --> 13:48.500 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:22.5% that turn periodic rain and soil 13:48.733 --> 13:53.333 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% and then grass into meat, milk and fiber. 13:57.233 --> 13:59.166 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% Shon: I would say  in this day and age, 13:59.400 --> 14:02.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% it's even more important  to teach the next generation 14:02.366 --> 14:03.866 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% about sustainability. 14:04.100 --> 14:06.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% And so we do have special days, 14:07.266 --> 14:09.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% one of which is what we call Shepherd's Day 14:10.166 --> 14:11.966 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% where we invite people in, 14:12.200 --> 14:14.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% especially people  who are new to the business 14:14.500 --> 14:16.333 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% or thinking about  being in the business 14:17.000 --> 14:17.966 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% [indistinct chatter] 14:18.500 --> 14:19.466 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% [sheep bleating] 14:19.933 --> 14:23.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% Shon: We very much want  to see other producers 14:23.266 --> 14:25.266 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% and farmers succeed. 14:25.566 --> 14:28.433 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% This is carded, all the fibers are aligned. 14:28.666 --> 14:31.133 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% You can spin it right from this, 14:31.366 --> 14:33.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% you can pull off a strip, draft it. 14:33.700 --> 14:36.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% We do tend to have  like a greater good in mind 14:37.100 --> 14:40.366 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% for the sheep themselves,  the survival of the wool breeds 14:41.366 --> 14:44.433 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% and the survival of farmers in this day and age. 14:49.133 --> 14:52.233 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% Everything's made out of wool from our sheep. 14:52.866 --> 14:54.900 align:start position:45% line:79.33% size:12.5% Shon: It's sort of a labor of love 14:55.133 --> 14:59.633 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% to start out with a sheep  that then has a lamb 15:00.066 --> 15:02.900 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% that then grows up to be shorn. 15:03.566 --> 15:07.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% And then we take its fleece,  we wash it, 15:07.233 --> 15:10.400 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% we card it,  we spin it, we felt it, 15:10.966 --> 15:14.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and we combine it  with other reclaimed fabrics 15:14.500 --> 15:16.300 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% and we make  something useful from that. 15:16.533 --> 15:18.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I really think there's a lot of beauty in that. 15:21.166 --> 15:26.400 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% Kathy: It's just a nice way  to make a living with nature. 15:27.833 --> 15:29.733 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% And I consider myself very lucky 15:29.966 --> 15:31.033 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% to be able to do that. 15:32.300 --> 15:36.000 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% And it's just my passion. 15:39.500 --> 15:40.433 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% [bleating] 15:41.966 --> 15:43.700 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% Why do we do all this work, Shon? 15:43.933 --> 15:44.966 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% Well, you gotta do something. 15:45.200 --> 15:47.566 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% You gotta be here, might as well do sheep. 15:48.300 --> 15:49.233 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% [chuckles] 15:50.900 --> 15:52.800 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:17.5% So this is the Bourbon Bottle Hall 15:53.033 --> 15:54.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% here at the Frazier History Museum. 15:54.700 --> 15:59.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% 320 produced in Kentucky Bourbons on display here. 15:59.333 --> 16:00.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% It really is something to see, 16:00.700 --> 16:02.233 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% but there's a little bit of a secret 16:02.500 --> 16:03.466 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% at play in this room 16:03.700 --> 16:05.000 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% that not many people know about. 16:05.300 --> 16:07.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% But we're gonna let you in on it right now, 16:07.900 --> 16:08.866 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:37.5% check this out. 16:19.333 --> 16:21.566 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% So we've made it  through the secret passageway 16:21.800 --> 16:24.400 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% and now we're in the speakeasy here at the Frazier, 16:24.700 --> 16:26.633 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% joined by Al Capone, 16:26.866 --> 16:29.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% as you see over here, as well as Casey Harden. 16:29.633 --> 16:30.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% She's Senior Director of Engagement. 16:31.133 --> 16:32.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% Casey, thanks so much for being here with us today. 16:32.633 --> 16:33.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% It's my pleasure. Thank you. 16:33.833 --> 16:35.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% So, why is Al Capone in this speakeasy? 16:36.133 --> 16:37.700 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% áWell, most people don't realize 16:37.933 --> 16:39.866 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% áhe actually has a tie to Louisville. 16:40.266 --> 16:41.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% áHe used to come down from Chicago 16:41.966 --> 16:43.266 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% and stay in the Seelbach. 16:43.500 --> 16:45.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And if you go over  to Seelbach now, 16:45.333 --> 16:48.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% you can see the booth he stayed  in, the room he stayed in. 16:48.233 --> 16:49.466 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% And if you come  into our speakeasy 16:49.700 --> 16:50.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% here at the Frazier,  there's a video 16:51.133 --> 16:53.200 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% that tells the whole story  about his connection. 16:53.433 --> 16:55.433 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% áThat's really cool. And now, you all started 16:55.666 --> 16:58.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% áas a very specific type of museum 16:58.766 --> 16:59.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% áhere at the Frazier when you launched 17:00.200 --> 17:02.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% and that role though has evolved over the years. 17:02.800 --> 17:04.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% Tell me where you started and where you are now. 17:04.800 --> 17:05.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% When the Frazier Museum started, 17:06.200 --> 17:07.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% it actually was an arms museum, 17:07.700 --> 17:10.100 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% which means that our museum was made up of, 17:10.333 --> 17:12.100 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:22.5% you know, guns and armories and knights, 17:12.933 --> 17:15.300 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% because that was  Mr. Frazier's passion. 17:15.533 --> 17:16.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% He loved the history of it. 17:16.833 --> 17:19.200 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% He loved the decorative nature of the guns. 17:19.433 --> 17:22.166 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% And so we were telling history through that technology. 17:22.633 --> 17:25.433 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% We're a young museum, you know, in the sense of it 17:25.666 --> 17:29.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and we really listen  to the people of our city 17:29.300 --> 17:30.266 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% and the people of our state 17:30.500 --> 17:31.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% to really understand  what they wanted. 17:32.333 --> 17:35.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% And the evolution led us  to telling Kentucky history. 17:35.866 --> 17:37.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And you still have some of the armaments here, 17:38.066 --> 17:40.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% including one piece that's really cool. 17:40.666 --> 17:44.933 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% You've got George Washington's original long rifle. 17:45.166 --> 17:46.233 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% What's the story behind that, Casey? 17:46.466 --> 17:47.666 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% It is a crazy story. 17:47.933 --> 17:51.300 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% So, Mr. Frazier acquired the rifle in 2003, 17:51.766 --> 17:53.600 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% but obviously, the history goes way back. 17:53.833 --> 17:55.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% The gun was created for President Washington 17:56.333 --> 17:57.633 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:20% in 1791. 17:58.300 --> 18:00.266 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% And we don't really know  what happened to the gun, 18:00.500 --> 18:02.300 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% as he had it, you know,  did he use it? 18:02.533 --> 18:03.500 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Was it decorative? 18:03.733 --> 18:05.933 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% But it was found in the 1920s 18:06.433 --> 18:08.000 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% in a small town in Pennsylvania. 18:08.233 --> 18:11.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% So side note, check yard sales, check your attic, 18:11.266 --> 18:13.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% check all the places for that lost history, right? 18:13.600 --> 18:14.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% You might have a George Washington gun. 18:14.800 --> 18:17.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% You might have something of precious value. 18:17.800 --> 18:20.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% So it transitioned hands in the 1920s 18:20.733 --> 18:22.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and ended up being on display at Independence Hall 18:22.900 --> 18:25.000 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% in Philadelphia until the 1970s. 18:25.700 --> 18:29.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% It was taken off display, changed hands again until 2003 18:29.833 --> 18:31.100 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% -when Mr. Frazier purchased it -Right. 18:31.333 --> 18:32.800 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% because of that American history 18:33.433 --> 18:35.533 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and had it on display here at the Frazier. 18:35.766 --> 18:36.733 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% It really is a neat piece. 18:36.966 --> 18:38.600 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% And besides you all being a museum, 18:38.833 --> 18:39.800 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% you're the start 18:40.033 --> 18:41.466 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% of the Kentucky Bourbon Trail as well. 18:41.700 --> 18:42.666 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% Tell me how that ties up. 18:42.900 --> 18:44.533 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% So if you're here visiting Kentucky, 18:44.766 --> 18:46.100 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% wanting to go on the Bourbon trail, 18:46.466 --> 18:47.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% you would come to the Frazier. 18:47.833 --> 18:49.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% We have a beautiful  Welcome Center 18:49.466 --> 18:52.100 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% that has videos  and contents to guide you. 18:52.533 --> 18:53.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% You could come into the museum 18:54.200 --> 18:56.166 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% and visit  our Spirit of Kentucky exhibit, 18:56.400 --> 18:59.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% which we're in right now, and try and find the speakeasy. 18:59.700 --> 19:02.566 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% But our staff is so educated on the Bourbon trail, 19:02.800 --> 19:03.833 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% they'll be able to help you plan 19:04.066 --> 19:05.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% which distilleries you want to go to, 19:05.933 --> 19:07.700 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% is there Kentucky history  you want to look at as well? 19:07.933 --> 19:08.900 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% So we're here for it all. 19:09.133 --> 19:10.100 align:start position:45% line:79.33% size:12.5% Chip: It's a great launch point. 19:10.333 --> 19:12.333 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% So why is it so important for the Frazier 19:12.566 --> 19:15.133 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% to be a repository of history here in Kentucky? 19:15.700 --> 19:17.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% Kentucky history is so diverse. 19:18.133 --> 19:20.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% It's such a long, rich history 19:20.566 --> 19:23.800 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% and we want it to be a place  that people can go, 19:24.033 --> 19:27.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% where the world meets Kentucky,  where we can be a place from, 19:27.633 --> 19:29.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% people from the United States  or all over the world 19:29.866 --> 19:31.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% can come and learn  about Kentucky history. 19:31.566 --> 19:32.533 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Great. Casey Harden, 19:32.766 --> 19:34.266 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% Senior Director of Engagement here at the Frazier. 19:34.500 --> 19:36.133 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% Thanks so much for letting us be a part of all this today. 19:36.366 --> 19:37.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% Well, it was our pleasure. Thank you. 19:37.566 --> 19:38.700 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And it's fun to hang out with Al, too, right? 19:38.933 --> 19:40.033 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% It is, it is. He's a fun guy. 19:44.933 --> 19:46.100 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% Here's a puzzle for you. 19:46.333 --> 19:48.233 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% Where in Kentucky can you check out 19:48.466 --> 19:51.400 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% a collection of old school western movie memorabilia? 19:51.700 --> 19:54.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Order a hot serving of my two favorite food groups, 19:54.933 --> 19:55.900 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% biscuits and gravy, 19:56.266 --> 19:59.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% and be served some of the most authentic Afghan food around 19:59.866 --> 20:01.300 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% all in the same place? 20:01.666 --> 20:03.233 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% Well, the answer might surprise you. 20:03.466 --> 20:06.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% It's inside the Windy Hollow Biscuit House in Owensboro. 20:07.333 --> 20:09.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% There, a partnership between Windy Hollow 20:09.900 --> 20:11.566 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% and three Afghan refugees 20:11.866 --> 20:15.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% is introducing locals to the taste of Afghan cuisine 20:16.166 --> 20:19.466 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% and creating some lifelong friendships in the process. 20:20.400 --> 20:23.366 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:37.5% [music playing] 20:28.600 --> 20:30.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% Evelyn: Windy Hollow  Biscuit House came about 20:30.633 --> 20:34.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% after thinking a long time about the restaurant we have. 20:34.300 --> 20:35.733 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% So we have Windy Hollow Restaurant 20:35.966 --> 20:39.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% that's now been open 59 years. 20:40.133 --> 20:41.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% áThat's what I grew up doing. 20:41.533 --> 20:43.333 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% áI grew up in the restaurant business. 20:43.566 --> 20:45.366 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% áI've had other businesses out at Windy Hollow. 20:45.866 --> 20:47.500 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% áHallie grew up in the restaurant. 20:47.966 --> 20:50.433 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% Hallie: We kind of took it over  from my grandparents, 20:50.666 --> 20:52.066 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% Hal and Deanna Miller. 20:52.300 --> 20:55.266 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% A lot of people, this reminds  them of way back when -- 20:55.500 --> 20:57.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% it just reminds them of their childhood 20:58.000 --> 20:59.666 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:42.5% and their family. 20:59.900 --> 21:02.433 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% So we wanted  to carry on that legacy. 21:02.966 --> 21:06.766 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% Evelyn: For the last 27 years,  we've been Sundays only 21:07.000 --> 21:08.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and I wanted to do something else 21:08.766 --> 21:11.433 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% as I was getting ready to retire from my job. 21:11.833 --> 21:14.500 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% So after two or three years, 21:14.733 --> 21:16.900 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% we opened  as Windy Hollow Biscuit House 21:17.133 --> 21:18.933 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% to serve breakfast,  brunch and lunch. 21:20.033 --> 21:22.733 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% Years ago when I was working for a nonprofit, 21:24.066 --> 21:26.600 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% the first Burmese refugees were coming into town 21:26.833 --> 21:28.533 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% and Bowling Green had a significant number 21:28.833 --> 21:30.766 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% áand then they started coming here as well. 21:31.066 --> 21:32.033 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% áAnd that was the first time 21:32.266 --> 21:34.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% áthat we had gotten refugees like that. 21:34.266 --> 21:36.033 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:42.5% And then in 2021 21:36.266 --> 21:38.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% when the Afghan refugees  came through, 21:38.633 --> 21:40.433 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% I didn't know  anything about it. 21:41.100 --> 21:42.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% The only thing I knew about Afghanistan 21:43.133 --> 21:44.200 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% was what we read in the headlines 21:44.433 --> 21:46.600 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and I'll just be honest, none of it was good, right? 21:46.833 --> 21:49.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I mean, you just felt, you felt bad for everybody 21:49.466 --> 21:52.866 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% that was trapped in a situation that they couldn't get out of. 21:53.200 --> 21:54.800 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% I just honestly  did not know much 21:55.033 --> 21:57.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% about Afghans or Afghanistan, 21:57.900 --> 22:01.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% their culture or anything  until I met Khaibar. 22:03.300 --> 22:06.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% áWe are the first Afghan arrivals here in Owensboro. 22:07.433 --> 22:09.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% There was no preparation  for me. 22:09.566 --> 22:12.300 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% I landed in Kabul like  a day before the collapse. 22:12.766 --> 22:16.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% I took my family to Turkey and I left them there 22:16.500 --> 22:18.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% because the situation was getting bad. 22:18.933 --> 22:20.066 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% So I had to go back 22:20.300 --> 22:24.100 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% and I was working at that time with Mercy Corps International. 22:24.500 --> 22:26.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% áI was not expecting that I'm going 22:26.800 --> 22:28.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% áto the United States or anywhere. 22:29.233 --> 22:31.566 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% But when I landed in Kabul, everything was changed. 22:32.866 --> 22:34.833 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% The US Embassy agreed for us 22:35.066 --> 22:37.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% to come to the International  Airport of Kabul. 22:37.333 --> 22:39.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% We had to go there, one in the morning, 22:39.966 --> 22:41.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% three in the morning, specific location. 22:42.066 --> 22:45.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% But the crowd was so big and we were not allowed. 22:45.733 --> 22:47.066 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% We were beating  and the shootings 22:47.300 --> 22:48.333 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% and all those things. 22:48.566 --> 22:50.233 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% And luckily, it was the last attempt 22:50.466 --> 22:52.633 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% that we did and we entered into the airport 22:52.866 --> 22:55.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and then all the way to Germany 22:55.900 --> 22:57.933 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and then from Germany to Washington DC, 22:58.166 --> 23:00.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% and then from Washington DC, Virginia, and then Owensboro. 23:02.033 --> 23:04.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% I started working  for the Catholic Charities, 23:04.733 --> 23:06.100 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% of those were diocese. 23:06.966 --> 23:08.633 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% The colleagues were taking me around 23:08.866 --> 23:11.066 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% for the restaurants just to show me the town. 23:11.300 --> 23:12.733 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% My colleague Alex took me 23:12.966 --> 23:14.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% to the Windy Hollow  Biscuit House 23:15.066 --> 23:17.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and I had breakfast and I met Evelyn. 23:18.266 --> 23:19.766 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% I know Tariq since 10 years 23:20.366 --> 23:22.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% because we grew up in the same city. 23:22.333 --> 23:23.900 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% So one day we were talking in the office 23:24.133 --> 23:25.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and chatting and I said, "Yes, Tariq. 23:26.700 --> 23:28.600 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% He had a restaurant and you wanna open 23:28.833 --> 23:30.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% another restaurant here in Owensboro, 23:30.933 --> 23:32.266 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:57.5% can we have him there?" 23:32.966 --> 23:34.100 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% That's when we met Tariq. 23:34.900 --> 23:36.100 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:62.5% He started working for us 23:36.333 --> 23:38.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and he wanted to work  the front of the house. 23:38.533 --> 23:40.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% It was probably a couple of weeks before I said, 23:41.033 --> 23:42.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% "Oh, what did you do in Afghanistan?" 23:42.900 --> 23:43.933 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% And he said, "I owned a restaurant." 23:44.166 --> 23:46.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% So I was like, "Oh, well, you should cook for us." 23:47.000 --> 23:49.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And they did cook for us one night 23:49.333 --> 23:50.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:77.5% and we set up like three tables 23:51.000 --> 23:53.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and they had food  all across all the tables. 23:53.566 --> 23:55.100 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:67.5% And so we had talked about 23:55.333 --> 23:56.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% since we're not using  the building at night, 23:56.900 --> 23:58.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% wouldn't it be great to have them come in 23:59.100 --> 24:00.866 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% and do something at night? 24:01.100 --> 24:03.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% And it was, it really happened kind of that casually. 24:04.466 --> 24:05.433 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:37.5% [music playing] 24:08.400 --> 24:11.100 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Khaibar: The authentic  Afghan food I would say, 24:11.500 --> 24:15.466 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% it is between like the Iranian and Indian food. 24:15.700 --> 24:19.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% We take some masalas, garam masala from India 24:19.366 --> 24:21.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% and we take some coriander and mint from Iran. 24:22.300 --> 24:25.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I can describe it like a Middle Eastern comfort food. 24:26.433 --> 24:29.300 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Yeah. So, not spicy. 24:29.700 --> 24:31.333 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:15% -Yeah. -Not spicy, 24:31.566 --> 24:32.733 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% that's the Asian type. 24:32.966 --> 24:34.600 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% It's Mediterranean. 24:35.066 --> 24:36.033 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Yeah, Mediterranean. 24:36.400 --> 24:38.300 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:20% Khaibar: Africans eat a lot of rice. 24:38.600 --> 24:41.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% We have lamb, beef, potatoes, 24:42.233 --> 24:46.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% the vegetables, okra,  eggplant, cauliflower. 24:46.366 --> 24:48.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Evelyn: It's almost  like an Americanized version 24:48.900 --> 24:50.333 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% of something  that you didn't know 24:50.566 --> 24:51.533 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:52.5% that you might like. 24:51.800 --> 24:53.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And by that, I mean, it's not over spice. 24:53.966 --> 24:55.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I mean, Americans like a steak to taste like a steak, 24:55.933 --> 24:57.266 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% not like the seasoning they put on it. 24:57.666 --> 24:59.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% Well, their lamb tastes like lamb 25:00.066 --> 25:01.233 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% and it tastes like onions. 25:01.566 --> 25:04.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% I've had people say, well, I just like roasted potatoes. 25:04.733 --> 25:05.666 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:32.5% We have that. 25:05.900 --> 25:09.033 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% Well, they have rosh, which is roast beef 25:09.500 --> 25:11.566 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - and potato and a tomato.  - Yep. 25:11.900 --> 25:14.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So it doesn't have a lot of brown gravy on it. 25:14.333 --> 25:15.733 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% It doesn't have any brown gravy on it, 25:15.966 --> 25:18.000 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% but it is roast and it is a potato 25:18.300 --> 25:20.500 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% -and it is delicious. -Very good. 25:21.800 --> 25:23.133 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:17.5% Evelyn: There was an instant connection 25:23.366 --> 25:26.933 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% with Khaibar and Tariq,  and of course, Edris. 25:27.266 --> 25:28.600 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% They're kind of  like my little brothers 25:28.833 --> 25:30.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% that I really just wanna hug all the time 25:30.800 --> 25:31.933 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% and I want to pinch their cheeks 25:32.166 --> 25:33.133 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% every once in a while. 25:33.366 --> 25:36.166 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And I just want them to do good -- 25:36.400 --> 25:38.933 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% and they are, they don't need my help to do well 25:39.166 --> 25:40.933 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% and to cook well and to run a restaurant, 25:41.366 --> 25:43.100 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% but they've made our lives 25:44.433 --> 25:46.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% richer from knowing their cultures 25:47.133 --> 25:50.300 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% and learning and understanding. 25:50.700 --> 25:53.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% I wanna be part of their success in America. 25:54.033 --> 25:55.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Somebody was a part of our success 25:56.066 --> 25:57.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% and my family's success over the years 25:58.200 --> 25:59.766 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% and I wanna be a part of their success. 26:00.500 --> 26:02.466 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% Owensboro, the Owensboro community, 26:02.966 --> 26:05.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% the first impression from the United States 26:05.966 --> 26:08.566 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% that we have, it has been great. 26:09.366 --> 26:11.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% All the communities, the nonprofits, 26:11.933 --> 26:13.333 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% the resettlement agencies, 26:13.800 --> 26:15.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% the Islamic Center  and the churches, 26:15.900 --> 26:19.733 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:77.5% all of them has been very much  supportive and welcoming. 26:20.500 --> 26:22.600 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% No other places when I go outside this place 26:22.833 --> 26:26.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% give me that peace that Owensboro is giving me. 26:26.766 --> 26:28.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:72.5% They appreciate our presence. 26:29.400 --> 26:30.366 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% That is what 26:31.233 --> 26:32.600 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% is very much important  for us. 26:33.266 --> 26:36.233 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:37.5% [music playing] 26:44.166 --> 26:46.400 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% Well, we've had a great day exploring the treasures 26:46.633 --> 26:48.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% of the Frazier History Museum. 26:48.500 --> 26:49.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% And if you're wondering where it is, 26:50.000 --> 26:51.033 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% it's right across the street 26:51.266 --> 26:53.733 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% from the big giant Louisville Slugger baseball bat. 26:54.000 --> 26:55.433 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% You've been on main street in Louisville, 26:55.666 --> 26:56.633 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:20% you know what I'm talking about? 26:56.933 --> 26:59.333 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% Many thanks to everyone here for letting us share 26:59.566 --> 27:01.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% this remarkable treasure with you today. 27:01.633 --> 27:03.400 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% But for now, I'll leave you with this moment. 27:03.933 --> 27:08.033 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% I'm Chip Polston, cherishing this Kentucky life. 27:10.133 --> 27:13.100 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% [instrumental music playing]