1 00:00:21,866 --> 00:00:25,700 WE'LL REVEAL THE GRAND MANSIONS 2 00:00:23,866 --> 00:00:26,966 AND GHOSTLY TALES OF OLD 3 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:27,666 LOUISVILLE WHEN "KENTUCKY LIFE" 4 00:00:26,966 --> 00:00:27,666 BEGINS RIGHT NOW. 5 00:00:38,733 --> 00:00:41,200 HELLO, I'M DOUG FLYNN, AND 6 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,400 WELCOME TO "KENTUCKY LIFE." 7 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,933 OR FOR TONIGHT'S SHOW, WE'RE 8 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,500 CALLING KENTUCKY AFTER LIFE. 9 00:00:44,933 --> 00:00:47,433 THE CAMERA CREW AND I SEEM TO 10 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,700 HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL PRACTICE 11 00:00:47,433 --> 00:00:50,433 PARLOR TO OURSELVES. 12 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:52,766 BUT DO WE REALLY? 13 00:00:50,433 --> 00:00:53,833 OR HAVE WE BEEN JOINED BY SOME 14 00:00:52,766 --> 00:00:55,800 LINGERING SPIRITS FROM THE 15 00:00:53,833 --> 00:00:57,900 HOUSE'S EARLIER YEARS? 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,333 MAYBE SOME OF THE VERY SAME 17 00:00:57,900 --> 00:01:00,833 SPIRITS RESPONSIBLE FOR OLD 18 00:00:59,333 --> 00:01:05,200 LOUISVILLE'S WORLDWIDE 19 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:08,100 REPUTATION FOR THE PARANORMAL. 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,666 >> OLD LOUISVILLE HAS ABOUT 45 21 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:11,066 SQUARE BLOCKS IN ITS HISTORIC 22 00:01:09,666 --> 00:01:15,966 PRESERVATION DISTRICT. 23 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:17,600 ROUGHLY 1400 STRUCTURES. 24 00:01:15,966 --> 00:01:17,900 THAT MAKES THEM VICTORIAN IN 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,833 STYLE. 26 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:20,900 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT VICTORIAN 27 00:01:19,833 --> 00:01:22,733 ARCHITECTURE, THEY THINK OF 28 00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:24,833 BEGINNINGER BREAD HOUSES. 29 00:01:22,733 --> 00:01:26,233 SORT OF WOOD AND SHINGLE HOUSES. 30 00:01:24,833 --> 00:01:27,600 AND HERE MOST HOUSES ARE BUILT 31 00:01:26,233 --> 00:01:28,833 OF STONE AND BRICK AND THIS WAS 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,700 A VERY AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOOD SO 33 00:01:28,833 --> 00:01:35,266 THEY COULD AFFORD THE MOST 34 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:36,366 EXPENSIVE BUILDING MATERIALS. 35 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:38,033 THE SOUTHERN EXPOSITION PUT 36 00:01:36,366 --> 00:01:38,300 LOUISVILLE AND THE STATE ON THE 37 00:01:38,033 --> 00:01:41,400 MAP. 38 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:42,233 >> THE SOUTHERN EXPOSITION WAS A 39 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,566 WORLD'S FAIR. 40 00:01:42,233 --> 00:01:45,300 IT WAS FORMED IN THE EARLY 41 00:01:44,566 --> 00:01:46,766 1880s BECAUSE OF THE 42 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:49,600 LOUISVILLE BOARD OF TRADE WANTED 43 00:01:46,766 --> 00:01:51,766 TO SHOWCASE LOUISVILLE AS A 44 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,366 WORLD PORT SO THEY DESIGNED 45 00:01:51,766 --> 00:01:55,000 THESE SOUTHERN EXPOSITION WHICH 46 00:01:53,366 --> 00:01:57,066 WAS AND STILL IS THE WORLD'S 47 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,300 LARGEST WOODEN STRUCTURE. 48 00:01:57,066 --> 00:01:59,500 PRESIDENT ARTHUR CONDUCTED THE 49 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:03,966 OPENING CEREMONIES. 50 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:05,833 AND THAT IS WHEN 4800 LIGHT 51 00:02:03,966 --> 00:02:07,066 BULBS THAT THOMAS EDISON'S MEN 52 00:02:05,833 --> 00:02:09,900 STRUNG CAME ON AND THE LIGHT 53 00:02:07,066 --> 00:02:11,866 BULB WAS SHOWCASED TO THE WORLD. 54 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:12,566 >> IT WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST FOR 55 00:02:11,866 --> 00:02:13,733 100 DAYS. 56 00:02:12,566 --> 00:02:15,333 PEOPLE AROUND HERE WERE SITTING 57 00:02:13,733 --> 00:02:17,233 ON PINS AND NEEDLES HOPING TO 58 00:02:15,333 --> 00:02:19,266 MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THEIR 59 00:02:17,233 --> 00:02:21,200 COSTS AND AS IT TURNS OUT IN 60 00:02:19,266 --> 00:02:22,366 THAT FIRST 88 DAYS, THEY SOLD 61 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,700 MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS A 62 00:02:22,366 --> 00:02:26,133 MILLION TICKETS AND SO, IT PUT 63 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:29,000 LOUISVILLE ON THE MAP AND IT WAS 64 00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:30,266 SUCH A HUGE HIT THEY OPEN THEY 65 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,066 OPENED IT UP THE NEXT YEAR. 66 00:02:30,266 --> 00:02:35,300 AND AFTER THEY TORE DOWN THE 67 00:02:32,066 --> 00:02:37,600 EXHIBIT HALL AND WE HAD THE 68 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:38,200 BIG.COMITY SPACE, THEY PUT IN 69 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,900 St. JAMES'S COURT. 70 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,333 >> FOR A GOOD 20 YEARS THAT WAS 71 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:42,000 THE MOST DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE 72 00:02:41,333 --> 00:02:44,633 IN THE CITY. 73 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,100 >> THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN 74 00:02:44,633 --> 00:02:47,133 DESIGNATED AS AMERICA'S MOST 75 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:48,966 HAUNTED NEIGHBORHOOD. 76 00:02:47,133 --> 00:02:49,866 THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE FEEL 77 00:02:48,966 --> 00:02:53,266 THE SPIRITS. 78 00:02:49,866 --> 00:02:54,766 THEY ARE ALWAYS WITH US. 79 00:02:53,266 --> 00:02:55,033 SOME ARE NOT SO FRIENDLY, MOST 80 00:02:54,766 --> 00:02:59,366 ARE. 81 00:02:55,033 --> 00:02:59,866 THE SPIRITS JUST WANT TO BE LEFT 82 00:02:59,366 --> 00:03:01,900 ALONE. 83 00:02:59,866 --> 00:03:03,500 THEY WERE NOT HARMFUL. 84 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:06,333 THEY HAVE A LONG HISTORY HERE. 85 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:08,933 >> DAVID DOMINE MOVED HERE AND 86 00:03:06,333 --> 00:03:09,700 HE FELL IN LOVE WITH 87 00:03:08,933 --> 00:03:11,166 VICTORIAN-OWNED LOUISVILLE. 88 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:11,866 EVERYWHERE HE WENT, PEOPLE HAD 89 00:03:11,166 --> 00:03:13,600 GHOST STORIES. 90 00:03:11,866 --> 00:03:14,833 THEY HAD STORIES ABOUT THE HOUSE 91 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,666 AND ODD THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN 92 00:03:14,833 --> 00:03:20,633 IN THEIR HOMES. 93 00:03:16,666 --> 00:03:22,266 AND SO HE BEGAN COMPILING THIS 94 00:03:20,633 --> 00:03:23,700 INFORMATION AND STARTED WRITING 95 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:26,600 BOOKS ABOUT IT. 96 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:28,233 IN 1999, I BOWL MINION HOUSE ON 97 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,033 THIRD STREET AND I MOVED IN, THE 98 00:03:28,233 --> 00:03:32,166 PREVIOUS OTHER THAN TOLD ME THAT 99 00:03:29,033 --> 00:03:33,366 THERE WAS A GHOST THAT WITH THE 100 00:03:32,166 --> 00:03:34,433 HOUSE AND I DIDN'T BELIEVE HER. 101 00:03:33,366 --> 00:03:37,633 I BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND A COUPLE 102 00:03:34,433 --> 00:03:38,500 OF MONTHS LATER, A COUPLE OF 103 00:03:37,633 --> 00:03:38,866 STRANGE THINGS STARTED 104 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:41,133 HAPPENING. 105 00:03:38,866 --> 00:03:41,433 I HAVE HEARD UNEXPLAINED FOOT 106 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:43,466 STEPS. 107 00:03:41,433 --> 00:03:49,133 AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CREEPS 108 00:03:43,466 --> 00:03:51,333 AND GROANS BUT I COULD HEAR HARD 109 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:53,033 SOLED SHOES WALKING AROUND 110 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:53,366 USUALLY ABOUT 3, 3:30 IN THE 111 00:03:53,033 --> 00:03:54,666 MORNING. 112 00:03:53,366 --> 00:03:56,066 I HAD PETS THAT ACT LIKE THEY 113 00:03:54,666 --> 00:03:56,333 COULD SEE THINGS THAT I COULDN'T 114 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:57,100 SEE. 115 00:03:56,333 --> 00:03:58,700 I WOULD WAKE UP IN THE MORNING 116 00:03:57,100 --> 00:03:59,900 TO THE INEXPLAINED SMELL OF 117 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:01,766 COFFEE IN THE KITCHEN AND 118 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:02,800 SMELLED LIKE SOMEONE HAD JUST 119 00:04:01,766 --> 00:04:05,600 BREWED IT. 120 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,633 NICE STRONG BLACK COFFEE I COULD 121 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,366 STAND AT THE STOVE AND SMELL IT 122 00:04:06,633 --> 00:04:08,866 LIKE IT WAS RIGHT THERE. 123 00:04:07,366 --> 00:04:11,233 ON AN OCCASION OR TWO, I SAW 124 00:04:08,866 --> 00:04:13,766 THINGS MOVE. 125 00:04:11,233 --> 00:04:14,266 I SAW A VASE SLIDE ACROSS A 126 00:04:13,766 --> 00:04:15,766 MANTLE SHELF. 127 00:04:14,266 --> 00:04:17,066 IF YOU ASKED ME TO GIVE AN 128 00:04:15,766 --> 00:04:18,633 ANSWER, I WOULD SAY I DON'T 129 00:04:17,066 --> 00:04:20,700 BELIEVE IN GHOSTS BUT DO I 130 00:04:18,633 --> 00:04:22,300 BELIEVE IN THE PARANORMAL? 131 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,266 I BELIEVE IN THE PARANORMAL. 132 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:24,033 THERE ARE THINGS OUT THERE WE 133 00:04:23,266 --> 00:04:26,100 JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. 134 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:26,500 THESE WOULD BE PARANORMAL 135 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,000 OCCURRENCES. 136 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:29,233 IT ALERTED ME TO THE POTENTIAL 137 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD AND SO 138 00:04:29,233 --> 00:04:32,766 I STARTED WRITING BOOKS ABOUT 139 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,466 THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT LED 140 00:04:32,766 --> 00:04:42,533 TO ME GIVING TOURS. 141 00:04:35,466 --> 00:04:46,533 BASED ON THE BOOKS, HE CAME UP 142 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:48,233 WITH THE FIRST GHOST TOO TOUR. 143 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:49,233 THE HE WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE 144 00:04:48,233 --> 00:04:50,366 THERE IS ENOUGH INFORMATION 145 00:04:49,233 --> 00:04:50,666 PACKED AS POSSIBLE INTO EACH 146 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:53,433 STORY. 147 00:04:50,666 --> 00:04:54,000 >> OUR GHOST TOUR IS CALLED THE 148 00:04:53,433 --> 00:04:54,600 AMERICA'S MOST HAUNT 149 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,166 NEIGHBORHOOD TOUR. 150 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,166 >> THE TOURS STARTED WITH JUST 151 00:04:57,166 --> 00:05:02,100 GUIDING PEOPLE AROUND IN GROUPS 152 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:03,600 WITH LANTERNS AND STOPPING IN 153 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:05,466 FRONT OF THE HAUNTED HOUSES. 154 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,800 WE HAVE MANY IN OLD LOUISVILLE. 155 00:05:05,466 --> 00:05:08,566 AND THEN HE WOULD TELL THE STORY 156 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,066 OF THE SPIRITS THAT LIVED IN 157 00:05:08,566 --> 00:05:14,233 THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE. 158 00:05:12,066 --> 00:05:14,700 HOW THEY DIED AND WHY THEY COME 159 00:05:14,233 --> 00:05:15,800 BACK TO HAUNT. 160 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,266 HE WOULD TAKE THE STORIES IN 161 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,833 EACH BOOK AND FOR THE NEXT 162 00:05:17,266 --> 00:05:19,266 YEAR'S TOUR, FEATURE THOSE 163 00:05:18,833 --> 00:05:21,100 HOUSES. 164 00:05:19,266 --> 00:05:21,433 >> ONE OF THE PLACES IS THE PINK 165 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:23,433 PALACE. 166 00:05:21,433 --> 00:05:25,366 ONE OF THE LOCAL LANDMARKS. 167 00:05:23,433 --> 00:05:25,666 YOU CAN'T MISS IT BECAUSE IT IS 168 00:05:25,366 --> 00:05:28,366 PINK. 169 00:05:25,666 --> 00:05:29,833 BUILT IN 1890 AND ORIGINALLY THE 170 00:05:28,366 --> 00:05:30,166 SAINT JAMES GENTLEMEN'S OUT AND 171 00:05:29,833 --> 00:05:31,200 CASINO. 172 00:05:30,166 --> 00:05:35,466 IT WAS A PRIVATE CLUBHOUSE. 173 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:37,200 THEY WOULD GATHER AND HAVE 174 00:05:35,466 --> 00:05:37,966 BOURBON AND SMOKE A 175 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,266 LOCALLY-ROLLED CIGAR, AND THINGS 176 00:05:37,966 --> 00:05:40,633 LIKE THAT AND EVENTUALLY IT WAS 177 00:05:39,266 --> 00:05:41,700 TURNED INTO A RESIDENCE LIKE IT 178 00:05:40,633 --> 00:05:44,233 IS TODAY. 179 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:46,600 AND IN THE 1960 IT IS WHEN IT 180 00:05:44,233 --> 00:05:47,066 ACQUIRED A REPUTATION AS BEING A 181 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,033 HAUNTED HOUSE. 182 00:05:47,066 --> 00:05:50,233 >> SUPPOSEDLY THERE IS A GHOST 183 00:05:48,033 --> 00:05:51,966 BY THE NAME OF AVERY HERE A 184 00:05:50,233 --> 00:05:53,133 DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN WHO 185 00:05:51,966 --> 00:05:54,600 MAKES APPEARANCES AT TIME WHENCE 186 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:58,066 PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE IN 187 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,566 DANGER SO HE IS WHAT THEY CALL A 188 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,700 CRISIS APPARITION. 189 00:05:58,566 --> 00:06:01,666 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GHOST IN YOUR 190 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:01,966 HOUSE, HE'S THE KIND THAT YOU 191 00:06:01,666 --> 00:06:03,133 WANT. 192 00:06:01,966 --> 00:06:04,666 HE SHOWED UP TO WARN YOU THAT 193 00:06:03,133 --> 00:06:05,733 YOU'RE IN DANGER AND SOMETHING 194 00:06:04,666 --> 00:06:06,766 IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. 195 00:06:05,733 --> 00:06:09,133 AND HE WAS FIRST DISCOVERED BY A 196 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:09,400 WOMAN LIVING THERE IN THE 1960 197 00:06:09,133 --> 00:06:11,133 OZ. 198 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,566 HER NAME WAS JENNIE AND HE 199 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:15,366 SHOWED UP AND MADE SEVERAL 200 00:06:13,566 --> 00:06:16,866 APPEARANCES AND STARTED 201 00:06:15,366 --> 00:06:18,300 WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING ON. 202 00:06:16,866 --> 00:06:19,033 AND TURNS OUT THERE WERE TWO 203 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:21,100 BUGLARIES OUTSIDE TRYING TO 204 00:06:19,033 --> 00:06:21,833 BREAK IN AND HE ALERT HER TO 205 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:22,866 THIS AND SAVED HER. 206 00:06:21,833 --> 00:06:23,700 AND THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, THINGS 207 00:06:22,866 --> 00:06:25,266 LIKE THIS HAVE HAPPENED. 208 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:26,500 THE CURRENT OWNERS KNOW THAT IF 209 00:06:25,266 --> 00:06:28,200 THEY SAY AVERY, THEY BETTER 210 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:30,200 WATCH OUT, SOMETHING IS AFOOT AT 211 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,300 THE PINK PALACE. 212 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,433 >> I HAVE HAD MANY PERSONAL 213 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:36,400 EXPERIENCES WITH THE SPIRITS 214 00:06:34,433 --> 00:06:39,300 THAT LIVE IN THIS HOUSE. 215 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,300 THE MAIN FOCUS OF MY HOUSE HAS 216 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:44,366 BEEN THE LITTLE GIRL IN THE 217 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:45,400 WHITE DRESS WHO STANDS ON THE 218 00:06:44,366 --> 00:06:47,300 STAIRS. 219 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:51,700 SHE'S BEEN SEEN BY FOUR PEOPLE 220 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:52,966 IN THE LAST 100 YEARS. 221 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:54,100 MY SON SAW THE LITTLE GIRL AND 222 00:06:52,966 --> 00:06:56,566 HE WAS LAST PERSON TO SEE HER 223 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:59,466 AND HE TOLD ME ABOUT HER AND I 224 00:06:56,566 --> 00:07:01,366 JUST BLEW IT OFF. 225 00:06:59,466 --> 00:07:02,433 AND IT WASN'T LATER UNTIL I MET 226 00:07:01,366 --> 00:07:06,033 DAVID AND I WAS TELLING HIM 227 00:07:02,433 --> 00:07:06,333 ABOUT THE HAPPENINGS IN THE 228 00:07:06,033 --> 00:07:07,500 HOUSE. 229 00:07:06,333 --> 00:07:09,200 HE DID THE RESEARCH ON MY HOUSE 230 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:10,700 TO FIND OUT THE FORMER OWNERS 231 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,500 AND INHABITANTS WERE. 232 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:22,266 AT ONE POINT, AROUND 1915, 1920, 233 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:23,200 A WOMAN LIVED HERE IN THE FRONT 234 00:07:22,266 --> 00:07:24,700 BEDROOM UPSTAIRS. 235 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,266 THEY WERE BORDERS AND THE LITTLE 236 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:27,366 GIRL RAN DOWN THE STAIRS IS AND 237 00:07:26,266 --> 00:07:30,400 OUT INTO THE STREET AND SHE WAS 238 00:07:27,366 --> 00:07:31,533 RUN OVER BY A CAR AND KILLED. 239 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,100 THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL 240 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:37,400 GENERATION OF FAMILY THAT GREW 241 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:39,000 UP IN THE HOUSE. 242 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,300 WE HAVE DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE THEY 243 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,033 HAVE SEEN THE SAME LITTLE GIRL 244 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:42,400 ON THE SAME STAIR. 245 00:07:41,033 --> 00:07:43,766 >> IN THE CENTER OF OLD 246 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,366 LOUISVILLE WE HAVE THE FAMOUS 247 00:07:43,766 --> 00:07:47,100 CENTRAL PARK. 248 00:07:44,366 --> 00:07:50,066 CENTRAL PARK WAS REDESIGNED IN 249 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:52,233 1905 BY FREDERICK OLMSTEAD, AND 250 00:07:50,066 --> 00:07:54,100 AT ONE TIME THIS IS WHERE THE 251 00:07:52,233 --> 00:07:58,266 DUPONT BROTHERS ANTOIN BEADERMAN 252 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:59,300 AND ALFRED VICTOR HAD A 253 00:07:58,266 --> 00:08:01,033 RESIDENCE. 254 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:02,533 AND SUPPOSEDLY ONE OF THE 255 00:08:01,033 --> 00:08:02,833 BROTHER BROTHERS THAT HAUNTS THE 256 00:08:02,533 --> 00:08:03,900 PARK. 257 00:08:02,833 --> 00:08:05,533 PEOPLE HAVE REPORTED HIM IN 258 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:09,600 THEIR HOUSES AS WELL BUT IT IS A 259 00:08:05,533 --> 00:08:11,500 TALL MAN IN A BLACK TUXEDO WITH 260 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,466 A GRAY SILK TOP HAT ON. 261 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:15,100 VERY OFTEN A GOLD CONTINUE 262 00:08:13,466 --> 00:08:16,433 WALKING CONTINUE AT HIS SIDE. 263 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:18,633 SUPPOSEDLY IT IS THE GHOST OF 264 00:08:16,433 --> 00:08:20,566 ALFRED VICTOR WHOM EVERYONE 265 00:08:18,633 --> 00:08:24,533 CALLED UNCLE FRED AND SUPPOSEDLY 266 00:08:20,566 --> 00:08:26,300 THE EVENING OF MAY 16, 1893, A 267 00:08:24,533 --> 00:08:27,833 MISTRESS OF HIS SHOWED UP AT THE 268 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:30,566 GALT HOUSE AND SHE ANNOUNCED SHE 269 00:08:27,833 --> 00:08:34,300 WAS PREGNANT BY HIM. 270 00:08:30,566 --> 00:08:36,166 HER NAME WAS MAGGIE PAYNE AND 271 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:37,866 SHE DEMANDED THAT HE ACKNOWLEDGE 272 00:08:36,166 --> 00:08:38,133 THE CHILD AND BRING IT UP AS HIS 273 00:08:37,866 --> 00:08:40,000 OWN. 274 00:08:38,133 --> 00:08:42,033 HE REFUSED AND MAGGIE PAYNE 275 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,800 PULLED OUT A PISTOL AND SHOT HIM 276 00:08:42,033 --> 00:08:46,533 STRAIGHT THROUGH THE HEART. 277 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,866 TODAY IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE 278 00:08:46,533 --> 00:08:48,100 SCANDAL. 279 00:08:46,866 --> 00:08:49,300 YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT WAS LIKE 280 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:50,700 IN VICTORIAN KENTUCKY. 281 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:53,700 A LOT OF THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS 282 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:54,766 WERE INDENTED TO THE DUPONTS AND 283 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,900 THEY PRINTED THE STORY THAT HE 284 00:08:54,766 --> 00:08:58,600 DECIDE OF THE HEART ATTACK. 285 00:08:55,900 --> 00:09:00,333 THE THEY IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS 286 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,666 SCANDALOUS TRAGEDY THAT UNCLE 287 00:09:00,333 --> 00:09:02,300 FRED AS HE'S KNOWN STILL HAUNTS 288 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:03,333 THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY. 289 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:07,533 >> INCREASE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 290 00:09:03,333 --> 00:09:09,133 TAKE THE TOURS FOR THE HISTORY, 291 00:09:07,533 --> 00:09:11,166 AND DAVID HAS DONE THE KIND OF 292 00:09:09,133 --> 00:09:13,866 RESEARCH THAT HE HAS DONE. 293 00:09:11,166 --> 00:09:18,233 IT IS VERY, VERY INTERESTING. 294 00:09:13,866 --> 00:09:19,933 A GHOST STORY THOUGH, SEASONS IT 295 00:09:18,233 --> 00:09:20,200 UP AND MAKES THE HISTORY LESS 296 00:09:19,933 --> 00:09:21,600 DRY. 297 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,400 IT IS A REAL GOOD FEELING TO 298 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,933 THIS HOME AND A LOT OF 299 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:29,000 TIMES-OVER TIME WHEN SOMEONE 300 00:09:25,933 --> 00:09:32,566 COMES IN, PEOPLE COME IN ON THE 301 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,866 TOUR, PEOPLE ASK US, YOU LIVE 302 00:09:32,566 --> 00:09:38,300 HERE? 303 00:09:32,866 --> 00:09:38,600 AND WE SAY, YEAH, YEAH, WE LIVE 304 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:39,700 HERE. 305 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,266 IT IS OUR HOME. 306 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:45,033 >> EACH HOUSE HAS A HISTORY AND 307 00:09:41,266 --> 00:09:46,500 IT IS WONDERFUL TO LEARN ABOUT 308 00:09:45,033 --> 00:09:47,500 NOT ONLY THE ARCHITECTURE BUT 309 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:50,933 WHO BUILT THE HOUSE. 310 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:52,200 HOW MUCH THEY COST. 311 00:09:50,933 --> 00:09:53,100 WHO LIVED THERE AND WHO DIED 312 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,833 THERE AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 313 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:55,366 HOUSE AFTER THE ORIGINAL OWNERS 314 00:09:54,833 --> 00:10:00,000 MOVED OUT. 315 00:09:55,366 --> 00:10:00,333 WE DON'T REALLY OWN THESE 316 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,166 HOUSES. 317 00:10:00,333 --> 00:10:02,500 WE ARE CARETAKERS. 318 00:10:01,166 --> 00:10:02,900 STRUCTURES HAVE A LIFE OF THEIR 319 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:04,266 OWN. 320 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:06,866 THEY COME TO LIFE. 321 00:10:04,266 --> 00:10:09,333 AND IT IS A PRIVILEGE AND AN 322 00:10:06,866 --> 00:10:14,700 HONOR TO LIVE IN ONE OF THESE 323 00:10:09,333 --> 00:10:17,566 HOMES SO FULL OF HISTORY. 324 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:18,733 >> NO ONE RIVALS OLD LOUISVILLE 325 00:10:17,566 --> 00:10:19,466 FOR BEING THE MOST HAUNTED 326 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:21,366 NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COUNTRY AND 327 00:10:19,466 --> 00:10:22,733 IT IS NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE I 328 00:10:21,366 --> 00:10:25,033 MYSELF HAVE INVESTIGATE OR 329 00:10:22,733 --> 00:10:27,266 RESEARCHED OVER 100 PROFESSED 330 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:30,000 CASE OF HAUNTING DOWN HERE. 331 00:10:27,266 --> 00:10:31,166 ONE OF THE PLACES IS THE COLD 332 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,066 WELL HOUSE WHICH IS SET TO BE 333 00:10:31,166 --> 00:10:33,933 ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S MOST 334 00:10:33,066 --> 00:10:37,633 HAUNTED MANSIONS. 335 00:10:33,933 --> 00:10:40,400 THE MANSION WAS BUILT BY CONRAD. 336 00:10:37,633 --> 00:10:43,600 >> THE CONRAD HOUSE SITS ON THE 337 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,266 ORIGINAL SITE OF THE SOUTHERN 338 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,433 EXPOSITION SAINT JAMES COURT 339 00:10:44,266 --> 00:10:46,466 WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIRST 340 00:10:45,433 --> 00:10:48,133 NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COUNTRY. 341 00:10:46,466 --> 00:10:50,733 THE CONRAD FAMILY LIVED HERE 342 00:10:48,133 --> 00:10:53,300 FIRST FROM ABOUT 1895 UNTIL 343 00:10:50,733 --> 00:10:55,566 ABOUT 1905. 344 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:56,866 ACTUALLY EMIGRATED TO 345 00:10:55,566 --> 00:10:57,400 LOUISVILLE, WHERE SOME OF HIS 346 00:10:56,866 --> 00:11:00,333 FAMILY WAS. 347 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,733 HE STARTED OFF WITH A SMALL 348 00:11:00,333 --> 00:11:04,133 TANNERY AND HE KEPT BUYING MORE 349 00:11:03,733 --> 00:11:06,033 BUSINESSES. 350 00:11:04,133 --> 00:11:08,866 >> HE ARRIVED IN LOUISVILLE AS A 351 00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:10,033 YOUNG MAN IN THE MID-1800S. 352 00:11:08,866 --> 00:11:12,633 TWO DOLLARS IN HIS POCKET AND 353 00:11:10,033 --> 00:11:13,600 JUST FINISHED HIS APPRENTICESHIP 354 00:11:12,633 --> 00:11:15,266 AND MADE THE WAY TO LOUISVILLE 355 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 AND TOOK THE $2 AND TURNED IT 356 00:11:15,266 --> 00:11:17,533 INTO AN EMPIRE. 357 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,166 BY THE END OF THE CENTURY, HE 358 00:11:17,533 --> 00:11:20,566 WAS ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST MEN IN 359 00:11:19,166 --> 00:11:22,033 THE CITY AND THIS WAS BUILT AS 360 00:11:20,566 --> 00:11:25,833 HIS RETIREMENT HOME. 361 00:11:22,033 --> 00:11:28,166 >> IT COST ABOUT $75,000 WHICH 362 00:11:25,833 --> 00:11:29,433 WITH CONVERSION WOULD HAVE BEEN 363 00:11:28,166 --> 00:11:33,533 CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS. 364 00:11:29,433 --> 00:11:34,800 SO THIS WAS AN ADVANCED 365 00:11:33,533 --> 00:11:36,566 BEAUTIFULLY CONSTRUCTED HOME IN 366 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:43,166 THE LATE 19TH CENTURY. 367 00:11:36,566 --> 00:11:44,433 WE HAVE AT LEAST 120FLEURIS DE . 368 00:11:43,166 --> 00:11:44,733 LIS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO 369 00:11:44,433 --> 00:11:46,133 COUNT. 370 00:11:44,733 --> 00:11:47,800 THE THROW BACK TO THE TIME 371 00:11:46,133 --> 00:11:49,966 THAT'S LIVED IN FRANCE. 372 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,600 WE WE HAVE A LOT OF UNIQUE 373 00:11:49,966 --> 00:11:54,100 FEATURES ABOUT THE HOUSE. 374 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,533 A NUMBER OF THINGS WE HAVE A 375 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:58,633 CHANDELIER IN THE LIBRARY THAT 376 00:11:56,533 --> 00:12:01,500 MRS. CALDWELL HAD CREATED AFTER 377 00:11:58,633 --> 00:12:02,666 CHANDELIER IN A HOME IN EUROPE 378 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,133 SHE SAW THAT SHE REALLY LIKED 379 00:12:02,666 --> 00:12:06,233 AND WE HAVE A FIREPLACE IN THE 380 00:12:04,133 --> 00:12:07,400 MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE WHICH A LOT 381 00:12:06,233 --> 00:12:09,066 OF PEOPLE WOULD QUESTION. 382 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,533 THE FLU ACTUALLY DESIGNED SO 383 00:12:09,066 --> 00:12:14,766 THAT IT KIND OF LEAVES SIDEWAYS 384 00:12:10,533 --> 00:12:20,333 AND GOES UP. 385 00:12:14,766 --> 00:12:25,133 SO THAT'S VERY UNIQUE. 386 00:12:20,333 --> 00:12:25,966 >> ONE DAY IN 1905, HE WAS GOING 387 00:12:25,133 --> 00:12:26,333 UP THE BACKSTAIRS AND COLLAPSED 388 00:12:25,966 --> 00:12:29,566 AND DIED. 389 00:12:26,333 --> 00:12:30,900 >> AND WE BELIEVED HE LAID IN 390 00:12:29,566 --> 00:12:32,266 STATE IN THE ROOM THAT HE WAS 391 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:39,600 SITTING IN WHICH IS THE PARLOR. 392 00:12:32,266 --> 00:12:41,466 AND THERE IS A HE WANTS TO MAKE 393 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,166 SURE THAT THE HOME IS TAKEN CARP 394 00:12:41,466 --> 00:12:43,833 OF AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING 395 00:12:42,166 --> 00:12:46,733 THAT WE CAN TO KEEP THE DOORS 396 00:12:43,833 --> 00:12:48,600 OPEN AND KEEP INTERESTED IN HIM. 397 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:50,433 >> AFTER HE DIED, SHE DID NOT 398 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,666 WANT TO STAY ON IN THE HOUSE SO 399 00:12:50,433 --> 00:12:52,133 SHE SOLD IT TO FRIEND, THE 400 00:12:51,666 --> 00:12:54,033 CALDWELL FAMILY. 401 00:12:52,133 --> 00:12:59,233 >> AND THEN WILLIAM CALDWELL 402 00:12:54,033 --> 00:13:00,700 PURCHASED IT IN 1905. 403 00:12:59,233 --> 00:13:01,666 LE THE OTHER THAN OF THE 404 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:03,733 CALDWELL COMPANY WHICH IS NOW 405 00:13:01,666 --> 00:13:05,800 KNOWN AS THE CALDWELL TANK 406 00:13:03,733 --> 00:13:07,033 COMPANY WERE THERE WERE VERY 407 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,233 WEALTHY, VERY EVIDENT BY JUST 408 00:13:07,033 --> 00:13:09,600 THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL IN THIS 409 00:13:09,233 --> 00:13:13,600 HOME. 410 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:16,766 HE AND HIS WIFE SPENT ABOUT TWO 411 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:19,433 YEARS REHABBING THE HOUSE OR 412 00:13:16,766 --> 00:13:20,533 MODERNIZING THE HOME. 413 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:21,300 MRS. CALDWELL SPENT SOME TIME IN 414 00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:22,600 EUROPE AND WANTED EVERYTHING TO 415 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:26,100 BE AT THE TOP OF THE LINE. 416 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,833 >> SO THEY LIVED IN THE HOUSE 417 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:30,566 FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS. 418 00:13:27,833 --> 00:13:32,500 AND THEN, IT BECAME THE ROSANNA 419 00:13:30,566 --> 00:13:34,133 HUGHES HOME FOR PRESBYTERIAN 420 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:36,300 WIDOWS AND SO THEY MAINTAINED 421 00:13:34,133 --> 00:13:39,466 THE HOME FROM SOME TIME IN THE 422 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:41,000 40s UNTIL 1987 WHEN ST. JAMES 423 00:13:39,466 --> 00:13:42,166 COURT HISTORIC FOUNDATION 424 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,233 PURCHASED THE HOME TO TURN IT 425 00:13:42,166 --> 00:13:44,833 INTO A MUSEUM. 426 00:13:43,233 --> 00:13:47,300 >> 427 00:13:44,833 --> 00:13:48,466 >> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE 428 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:49,533 WHO DIED IN THE HOUSE. 429 00:13:48,466 --> 00:13:51,733 NOT SURPRISING BUT THERE ARE A 430 00:13:49,533 --> 00:13:54,266 NUMBER OF GHOSTS SAID TO HAUNT 431 00:13:51,733 --> 00:13:56,566 THIS PLACE TODAY. 432 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:56,900 ONE SEEMS TO BE Mr. CONRAD 433 00:13:56,566 --> 00:13:57,866 HIMSELF. 434 00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:01,366 WHEN PEOPLE GO IN FOR THE 435 00:13:57,866 --> 00:14:03,400 REGULAR TOUR AS THE ARE OFFERED, 436 00:14:01,366 --> 00:14:04,466 PEOPLE WHO SNEAK OFF AND WANT TO 437 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,866 OPEN DOORS AND DRAWERS AND 438 00:14:04,466 --> 00:14:06,400 THINGS LIKE THAT AND SEE WHAT 439 00:14:05,866 --> 00:14:08,833 THEY CAN FIND. 440 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,933 THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE 441 00:14:08,833 --> 00:14:12,000 ENCOUNTERS WITH Mr. CONRAD. 442 00:14:09,933 --> 00:14:14,800 THEY SAY HE'S A VERY SHORT MAN. 443 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,933 HE SORT OF APPEARS AS A MISTY 444 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,966 APPARITION AND IT TAKES THE 445 00:14:15,933 --> 00:14:19,300 SHAPE OF A MAN WITH A GOATEE AND 446 00:14:18,966 --> 00:14:20,600 A HAT. 447 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:20,933 AND HE NEVER SAYS ANYTHING TO 448 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,533 ANYONE. 449 00:14:20,933 --> 00:14:23,866 HE JUST SHOWED UP AND STIRP 450 00:14:22,533 --> 00:14:26,233 STERNLY LOOKS AT THEM AND DOES 451 00:14:23,866 --> 00:14:27,433 THIS AS FAST TO SAY, YOU 452 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:28,500 SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS AND THEN 453 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,900 HE DISAPPEARED. 454 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,833 AND THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEARS, 455 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:32,233 LOTS OF PEOPLE REPORTED THIS 456 00:14:31,833 --> 00:14:33,933 APPARITION. 457 00:14:32,233 --> 00:14:37,033 JUST ONE OF MANY APPARITIONS 458 00:14:33,933 --> 00:14:37,266 THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY AFOOT. 459 00:14:37,033 --> 00:14:47,266 ,. 460 00:14:37,266 --> 00:14:48,333 >> SO THEY BELIEVE THEY STILL 461 00:14:47,266 --> 00:14:49,400 INHABIT THE OLD ROOM ON THE 462 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:50,000 SECOND FLOOR WHICH IS THE 463 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:55,666 SITTING ROOM. 464 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:57,833 IF WE MOVE THINGS, THEY TEND TO 465 00:14:55,666 --> 00:15:02,966 GET A LITTLE UPSET AND SO 466 00:14:57,833 --> 00:15:06,100 THEY'LL OPEN DOORS, OR MOVE 467 00:15:02,966 --> 00:15:09,400 THINGS SO WE'VE HAD THAT IN 468 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:10,700 STINTS AND ONE OF OUR -- WILL 469 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,466 SAY HELLO TO THEM IN THE 470 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:15,366 MORNING, TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE 471 00:15:13,466 --> 00:15:17,100 HAS TALKED TO THEM. 472 00:15:15,366 --> 00:15:19,133 SOMETIMES I THINK THAT THERE IS 473 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:20,500 A GHOST IN THE ELEVATOR WHEN IT 474 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:22,400 GOES UP BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE 475 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:22,800 NOISE RIGHT IN MY OFFICE AND IT 476 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,166 STARTLES ME. 477 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,700 >> MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH 478 00:15:24,166 --> 00:15:31,700 GHOSTS HERE, WAS I WAS GIVING A 479 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:34,200 TOUR ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND OUT 480 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:34,966 OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE, I SAW A 481 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,433 BALL OF LIGHT. 482 00:15:34,966 --> 00:15:38,166 AND THEN I THOUGHT MAYBE THE 483 00:15:36,433 --> 00:15:40,000 PEOPLE IN MY GROUP WERE SWINGING 484 00:15:38,166 --> 00:15:41,000 PURSES OR UMBRELLAS AND I TURNED 485 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,600 AROUND AND THEY WERE ALL 486 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,000 STANDING THERE. 487 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,333 AND MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD OTHER 488 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,433 EXPERIENCES HERE, I ONCE HAD A 489 00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:48,166 LADY WHO CAME THROUGH FOR A TOUR 490 00:15:46,433 --> 00:15:49,133 AND SHE ASKED TO SEE THE PIANO 491 00:15:48,166 --> 00:15:50,266 IN ONE OF THE ROOMS. 492 00:15:49,133 --> 00:15:52,833 AND WE WERE WALKING THROUGH, SHE 493 00:15:50,266 --> 00:15:54,300 SAID DO YOU HAVE -- AND I SAID 494 00:15:52,833 --> 00:15:56,033 YES, THINK WE PROBABLY DO SHE 495 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,700 SAID THERE IS A LADY STANDING 496 00:15:56,033 --> 00:15:59,333 RIGHT BEHIND YOU WEARING AN 497 00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:00,933 IVORY DRESS AND HER ARMS OUT 498 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,433 LIKE SHE'S ENCOMPASSING THE 499 00:16:00,933 --> 00:16:02,833 WHOLE HOUSE. 500 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:06,766 ONE TIME I WAS ON THE SECOND 501 00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:07,733 FLOOR, AND I SAW A GREAT SHADOW 502 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:09,100 FIGURE DARTING ACROSS. 503 00:16:07,733 --> 00:16:09,466 I THOUGHT IT WAS OUR ASSISTANT 504 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:10,900 DIRECTOR. 505 00:16:09,466 --> 00:16:12,400 AND I CAME DOWN AND ASKED HER 506 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:12,700 WHY HE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY 507 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,400 TOUR. 508 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:18,166 AND SHE SAID, I WASN'T THERE. 509 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,100 WE HAD A HOUSEKEEPER HERE IN THE 510 00:16:18,166 --> 00:16:20,600 HOUSE AND APPARENTLY, IT WAS 511 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:22,733 RAINING OUTSIDE. 512 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,466 SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE HERE. 513 00:16:22,733 --> 00:16:26,266 SHE HEARD A VOICE START SAYING 514 00:16:24,466 --> 00:16:27,766 HURRY, HURRY, CLOSE THE WINDOW, 515 00:16:26,266 --> 00:16:29,166 IT IS RAINING OUTSIDE. 516 00:16:27,766 --> 00:16:32,533 SHE WENT UPSTAIRS AND THE WINDOW 517 00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:34,933 WAS OPEN, IT WAS RAINING. 518 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:38,100 >> I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN 519 00:16:34,933 --> 00:16:38,933 AND JUST EXPLAIN, WOW, THIS IS 520 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:40,666 SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. 521 00:16:38,933 --> 00:16:41,866 JUST GETTING TO WORK WITH THE 522 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:43,966 VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE EXCITED TO BE 523 00:16:41,866 --> 00:16:45,133 HERE EVERY DAY AND TO TELL THE 524 00:16:43,966 --> 00:16:46,700 STORIES THAT WE DO. 525 00:16:45,133 --> 00:16:48,700 YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING AN IMPACT 526 00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:58,866 AND TRYING TO KEEP HISTORY 527 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:58,866 ALIVE. 528 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:08,800 >> THE DUPONT MANSION WAS BUILT 529 00:17:06,166 --> 00:17:09,133 AROUND 1882 BY THE DELAWARE 530 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,066 DUPONTS. 531 00:17:09,133 --> 00:17:15,500 IT IS ONE OF LOUISVILLE'S GRAND 532 00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:19,600 MANSIONS. 533 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:23,566 WE HAVE HAD GUESTS WHO HAVE FELT 534 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:26,566 THE PRESENCE, AND THEY HAVE 535 00:17:23,566 --> 00:17:32,000 SMELLED CIGAR SMOKE THAT WILL 536 00:17:26,566 --> 00:17:33,600 COME LATE AT NIGHT IN THE ROOM. 537 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,966 AND WE'RE A NON-SMOKING 538 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,166 FACILITY. 539 00:17:33,966 --> 00:17:38,933 THE STORY GOES THAT, IT IS 540 00:17:36,166 --> 00:17:46,066 INDEED Mr. DUPONT. 541 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:48,000 >> ON THE THIRD FLOOR, OF THE 542 00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:48,300 DUPONT MANSION, THERE WAS A BALL 543 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,200 ROOM. 544 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:53,200 THREE GUEST ROOMS ON THE THIRD 545 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,533 FLOOR NOW AND FROM TIME TO TIME, 546 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:58,166 THEY HEAR BALL ROOM MUSIC AND I 547 00:17:54,533 --> 00:17:58,533 THINK THAT IT IS JUST ANOTHER 548 00:17:58,166 --> 00:17:59,633 DIMENSION. 549 00:17:58,533 --> 00:18:03,033 THEY ARE ACCUSTOMED TO BEING IN 550 00:17:59,633 --> 00:18:04,766 THESE PLACES, IT WAS THEIR HOME 551 00:18:03,033 --> 00:18:06,266 AND YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING 552 00:18:04,766 --> 00:18:09,366 ON. 553 00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:11,100 >> FIRST CHURCH OF CHRIST 554 00:18:09,366 --> 00:18:11,866 SCIENTIST A BEAUTIFUL 555 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:14,766 NEOCLASSICAL SCIENTIST SO WE 556 00:18:11,866 --> 00:18:17,233 HAVE THE LADY OF STAIRS, ALWAYS 557 00:18:14,766 --> 00:18:19,866 A FLOWING WHITE GOWN AND DOWN IN 558 00:18:17,233 --> 00:18:21,400 A GIBSON GIRL HAIRDOO AND THEY 559 00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:22,666 USED TO SEE HER PACE BACK AND 560 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,400 FORTH ACROSS THE HUGE SET OF 561 00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:24,966 STEPS IN THE FRONT OF THE 562 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,066 STRUCTURE. 563 00:18:24,966 --> 00:18:27,800 THEY SAY YOU CAN HEAR HER SOBS 564 00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:31,166 IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT. 565 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,500 IT WAS A YOUNG WOMAN SHE CALLED 566 00:18:31,166 --> 00:18:33,033 Ms. GEE. 567 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:33,400 PROMINENT LOCAL FAMILY FROM 568 00:18:33,033 --> 00:18:36,566 BARDSTOWN. 569 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,966 THE STORY IS HER FAMILY ARRANGED 570 00:18:36,566 --> 00:18:40,600 A LUCRATIVE MARRIAGE. 571 00:18:38,966 --> 00:18:42,500 THEY PRESENTED THE MAN AND SHE 572 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,433 SAID NO THANK YOU BECAUSE SHE 573 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:46,966 HAD MET SOMEONE. 574 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:47,733 FELL IN LOVE WITH MISS G AND 575 00:18:46,966 --> 00:18:49,000 PROMISED THAT HE WOULD RETURN 576 00:18:47,733 --> 00:18:50,133 AND THEY WOULD BE MARRIED. 577 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,500 WHEN THE PARENTS FOUND OUT THEY 578 00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:53,533 SENT HER TO LOUISVILLE, TO LIVE 579 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,866 WITH AN AUNT AND UNCLE ON THIRD 580 00:18:53,533 --> 00:18:55,066 STREET. 581 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:58,233 BACK THEN, THE STEPS OF THE 582 00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:59,800 CHURCH WERE KIND OF RENDEZVOUS 583 00:18:58,233 --> 00:19:01,266 SPOT SO SHE WOULD SNEAK OUT AT 584 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,933 NIGHT AND MEET HER BOYFRIEND AND 585 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:05,733 AFTER SEVERAL WEEKS OF SNEAKING 586 00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:07,466 AROUND THEY DECIDE THEY'D WOULD 587 00:19:05,733 --> 00:19:09,033 RATHER RUN AWAY AND GET MARRIED. 588 00:19:07,466 --> 00:19:09,866 IT CAME TIME TO MEET AND THE 589 00:19:09,033 --> 00:19:11,800 YOUNG MAN NEVER MADE IT. 590 00:19:09,866 --> 00:19:14,200 HE WAS ONE OF SEVERAL HUNDRED 591 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:18,266 SOLDIERS WHO WERE STRUCK WITH 592 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,633 THE FLU AT CAMP ZACHARY TAYLOR. 593 00:19:18,266 --> 00:19:20,466 THAT'S WHEN WE HAD THE SPANISH 594 00:19:19,633 --> 00:19:21,566 FLU OUTBREAK. 595 00:19:20,466 --> 00:19:22,833 SHE WAITED TOP STAIRS AND 596 00:19:21,566 --> 00:19:24,400 FINALLY DID GIVE UP THINKING 597 00:19:22,833 --> 00:19:27,433 THAT SHE HAD BEEN GUILTED NOT 598 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,200 KNOWING THAT HER BOYFRIEND WAS 599 00:19:27,433 --> 00:19:29,200 ON HIS DEATH BED. 600 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,500 SHE WENT HOME AND CONTRACTED THE 601 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,900 FLU AS WELL AND THEY NEVER FOUND 602 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:34,666 OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO EACH OTHER. 603 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:36,266 WITHIN TWO DAYS, THEY WERE BOTH 604 00:19:34,666 --> 00:19:39,500 DEAD AND BURIED. 605 00:19:36,266 --> 00:19:40,800 THEY SAY MISS G'S GHOST HAUNTS 606 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:41,066 THE STAIRS WAITING FOR THE YOUNG 607 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,266 MAN. 608 00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:55,300 >> THIS WAS BUILT ABOUT 1887 BY 609 00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:55,300 RUSSELL HOUSTON 610 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,833 >> ALL THE WAY DOWN THE FIRST 611 00:20:03,533 --> 00:20:09,366 FLOOR THAT STAIRCASE SPATIALLY 612 00:20:05,833 --> 00:20:10,566 TAKES UP ESSENTIALLY A ROOM. 613 00:20:09,366 --> 00:20:13,300 ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE 614 00:20:10,566 --> 00:20:15,666 ARCHITECTS AND THE OWNERS OFTEN 615 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:18,066 SACRIFICED FUNCTIONALITY FOR 616 00:20:15,666 --> 00:20:19,400 FEATURES AND LOOKS. 617 00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:25,866 IMPORTANT THING TO THEM IN 618 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:28,033 BUILDING THAT STAIRCASE, WAS NOT 619 00:20:25,866 --> 00:20:29,400 EFFICIENCY TO GET UP AND 620 00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:32,033 DOWNSTAIRS, IT WAS TO CREATE A 621 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,800 SPECTACLE. 622 00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:34,133 THE WOODWORK IN THE VARIOUS 623 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,100 ROOMS. 624 00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:42,300 AND, EACH OF THOSE ROOMS ARE 625 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:43,633 PANELED OR TRIMMED WITH A 626 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:47,233 DIFFERENT LUXURIOUS WOOD. 627 00:20:43,633 --> 00:20:49,566 SUPPOSEDLY BACK IN THE 1890s 628 00:20:47,233 --> 00:20:50,966 NOT TOO LONG AFTER THE PLACE WAS 629 00:20:49,566 --> 00:20:52,066 BUILT, HIRED AS A TUTOR FOR THE 630 00:20:50,966 --> 00:20:54,666 CHILDREN OF THE FAMILY. 631 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:56,133 SUPPOSEDLY ONE OF THE CHILDREN 632 00:20:54,666 --> 00:20:57,366 WAS DEATHLY ILL. 633 00:20:56,133 --> 00:20:59,633 SHE WAS TRYING TO CONTACT THE 634 00:20:57,366 --> 00:21:00,700 SPIRIT OF THE DOCTOR SHE WAS 635 00:20:59,633 --> 00:21:01,833 CONDUCTING A SEYENS. 636 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:04,033 THE DOCTOR WHO SHE THOUGHT WAS 637 00:21:01,833 --> 00:21:05,533 ABLE TO CURE THIS CHILD HAD JUST 638 00:21:04,033 --> 00:21:07,766 DIED THE DAY BEFORE SO SHE 639 00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:09,766 REACHED OUT AND TRIED TO CONTACT 640 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:12,333 HIM ON THE OTHER SIDE. 641 00:21:09,766 --> 00:21:13,866 >> SHE WENT OVER TO THE CORNER 642 00:21:12,333 --> 00:21:16,300 OF PARK AND SIXTH STRAIGHT OVER 643 00:21:13,866 --> 00:21:17,500 ONE BLOCK FROM WHERE SHE HAD 644 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:19,700 BEEN LIVING. 645 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:21,166 SHE MET AN OLD WITCH AT THIS 646 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:23,466 TREE KNOWN AS THE WITCH'S TREE. 647 00:21:21,166 --> 00:21:25,266 >> THE ROGUE SPIRIT INTERCEPTED 648 00:21:23,466 --> 00:21:27,166 THE MESSAGES AND ENDED UP 649 00:21:25,266 --> 00:21:29,100 KILLING ANNIE WHIPPLE AS A WAY 650 00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:30,766 OF TEACHING HER A LESSON FOR 651 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:33,033 DABBLING IN THE BLACK ARTS. 652 00:21:30,766 --> 00:21:36,166 >> THE GUESTS THAT HAD STAYED 653 00:21:33,033 --> 00:21:38,866 HERE HAVE RECORDED A NUMBER OF 654 00:21:36,166 --> 00:21:42,266 DIFFERENT EVENTS AND ONE OF THE 655 00:21:38,866 --> 00:21:46,933 GUESTS THAT I HAD AMONGST 656 00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:48,433 BUSINESS GROUPS, BEGAN 657 00:21:46,933 --> 00:21:50,166 EXPLAINING A CERTAIN THING HE 658 00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:56,433 SAW ON THE SECOND FLOOR. 659 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:56,733 HE DESCRIBED IT AS A TRANSPARENT 660 00:21:56,433 --> 00:21:58,700 WOMAN. 661 00:21:56,733 --> 00:22:00,400 THE OTHER GENTLEMAN AT THE 662 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:04,900 BREAKFAST TABLE AND HIS EYES 663 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:06,633 WIDENED LIKE SAUCERS, AND HE 664 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:10,166 SAID, "THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT." 665 00:22:06,633 --> 00:22:16,033 GUESTS HAVE HEARD NOISES, THE 666 00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:17,800 MOST OFTEN REPEATED NOISE IS, 667 00:22:16,033 --> 00:22:18,666 THE WHIRLPOOL TUB IN THE MASTER 668 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,833 SUITE HAS BEEN TURNED ON IN THE 669 00:22:18,666 --> 00:22:25,666 MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WITH NO 670 00:22:20,833 --> 00:22:26,600 WATER RUNNING, NO PEOPLE IN 671 00:22:25,666 --> 00:22:28,400 THERE. 672 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,000 A WOMAN HAS BEEN SEEN COMING 673 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,300 DOWN THAT SWEEPING STAIRWAY. 674 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:37,300 DRESSED IN WHAT APPEARED TO BE 675 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:38,000 VICTORIAN GARB, OF 1880 TO 676 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:40,166 1890s ERA. 677 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,333 THE WOMAN DISAPPEARED AS SHE 678 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:46,766 NEARED THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS. 679 00:22:43,333 --> 00:22:48,133 >> 680 00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:49,500 >> THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE 681 00:22:48,133 --> 00:22:50,766 TRAGIC ONES IN OLD LOUISVILLE. 682 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:54,700 THE ICE BOY HAUNTS A BUILDING 683 00:22:50,766 --> 00:22:56,366 KNOWN AS THE St. JAMES FLATS. 684 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,066 PEOPLE FEARED THAT AN APARTMENT 685 00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:58,400 BUILDINGWOULD BRING DOWN THE 686 00:22:57,066 --> 00:23:00,233 VALUE OF HOUSING IN THE AREA AND 687 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,200 THE RESIDENTS OF STAY -- 688 00:23:00,233 --> 00:23:02,833 ST. JAMES COURT TOOK THE OWNER 689 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,666 TO COURT. 690 00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:06,333 HE WON THE CASE ON THE ARGUMENT 691 00:23:04,666 --> 00:23:08,100 THAT THE HOUSING WAS NEEDED IN 692 00:23:06,333 --> 00:23:09,433 OLD LOUISVILLE, AND, SO HE 693 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:10,600 PROCEEDED TO BUILD THE St. 694 00:23:09,433 --> 00:23:12,566 JAMES COURT FLATS. 695 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,700 THEY EXISTED IN HARMONY WITH THE 696 00:23:12,566 --> 00:23:16,166 REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL 697 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:18,833 THE NIGHT OF FEBRUARY 6, 1912. 698 00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:23,533 THAT NIGHT, THE BUILDING BURST 699 00:23:18,833 --> 00:23:25,200 INTO FLAMES AND THE TOP THREE 700 00:23:23,533 --> 00:23:25,566 STORIES WERE COMPLETELY 701 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,066 CONSUMED. 702 00:23:25,566 --> 00:23:29,033 BECAUSE IT WAS SO COLD WHERE THE 703 00:23:27,066 --> 00:23:30,833 FIREMEN TRIED TO PUT OUT THE 704 00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:34,166 FLAMES, THE WATER FROM THE HOSES 705 00:23:30,833 --> 00:23:37,333 HAD FROZEN ON THE HOUSE. 706 00:23:34,166 --> 00:23:39,700 AND SO THEY WERE GREETED BY THIS 707 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:41,833 RUIN OF ICE AND SOOT. 708 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:42,366 I WAS WRITHING UP LIKE A IS THAT 709 00:23:41,833 --> 00:23:43,866 LAG MIGHT. 710 00:23:42,366 --> 00:23:47,666 THEY WERE GLAD THAT NOBODY HAD 711 00:23:43,866 --> 00:23:48,666 PERISHED IN THE FIRE. 712 00:23:47,666 --> 00:23:50,400 BUT THAT'S WHEN THE STORIES 713 00:23:48,666 --> 00:23:51,366 STARTED TO SURFACE ABOUT THIS 714 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,200 LITTLE BOY THAT COULD BE SEEN IN 715 00:23:51,366 --> 00:23:54,500 FRONT OF THE HOUSE OR IN THE 716 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,400 FOUNTAIN AT THE ST. JAMES COURT. 717 00:23:54,500 --> 00:24:01,166 AND, IT TURNS OUT THAT THIS 718 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:02,300 LITTLE BOY WAS THE RESIDENT OF 719 00:24:01,166 --> 00:24:04,200 THE CAB BANK PATCH NEIGHBORHOOD. 720 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:05,266 HE WAS A GROCERY DELIVERY BOY 721 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,933 TRYING TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY FOR 722 00:24:05,266 --> 00:24:09,200 HIS FAMILY AND THAT NIGHT IT WAS 723 00:24:06,933 --> 00:24:10,533 SO COLD, BEFORE HE WENT OUT ON 724 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,966 ANOTHER DELIVERY, HE WANTED TO 725 00:24:10,533 --> 00:24:12,733 WARM UP FOR ONE MINUTE ON THE 726 00:24:11,966 --> 00:24:16,333 FIFTH FLOOR OF THE HOUSE. 727 00:24:12,733 --> 00:24:16,600 AND THAT IS WHEN THE FIRE BROKE 728 00:24:16,333 --> 00:24:18,466 OUT. 729 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,033 HE WAS TRAPPED UP THERE AND THEY 730 00:24:18,466 --> 00:24:20,366 FOUND HIS BODY HUDDLED IN A 731 00:24:20,033 --> 00:24:21,200 CORNER. 732 00:24:20,366 --> 00:24:22,666 PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE HE 733 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,966 WAS NOT FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY 734 00:24:22,666 --> 00:24:25,266 THEY COULD BURY THE STORY AND 735 00:24:23,966 --> 00:24:25,700 NOBODY WOULD KNOW THE 736 00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:27,666 DIFFERENCE. 737 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:32,400 AND SO THAT IS WHEN THE RUMORS 738 00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:33,700 STARTED TO SURFACE ABOUT THIS 739 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,000 LITTLE ICE BOY HAUNTING THE 740 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:36,033 COURT. 741 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,133 THEY SAY THAT MAYBE HE DOES IT 742 00:24:36,033 --> 00:24:37,800 BECAUSE HE WANTS US TO KNOW THAT 743 00:24:37,133 --> 00:24:39,500 HE'S HERE. 744 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,700 HE TENDS TO APPEAR IN DECEMBER 745 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:41,766 OR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, 746 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:44,833 NIGHTSWHEN THERE IS ICE AND SNOW 747 00:24:41,766 --> 00:24:48,833 ON THE GROUND THAT'S HOW HE GOT 748 00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:51,466 HIS NAME. 749 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:52,800 >> EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T 750 00:24:51,466 --> 00:24:54,000 PHYSICALLY SEE ANOTHER DIMENSION 751 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 OR A GHOST, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT 752 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,333 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT HAPPENS. 753 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:03,400 IF THERE WERE GHOSTS, THEY WOULD 754 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:05,233 CERTAINLY BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD 755 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:09,633 THAT'S 130 YEARS OLD AND HAS A 756 00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:14,700 LOT OF STORIES TO BE TOLD. 757 00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:17,633 >> DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE GHOSTS 758 00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:19,866 OF OLD LOUISVILLE? 759 00:25:17,633 --> 00:25:20,466 CAN THE STORIES ALL BE EXPLAINED 760 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:21,500 AWAY? 761 00:25:20,466 --> 00:25:22,600 WHETHER YOU BELIEVE OR NOT, 762 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,700 THOSE STORIES HAVE A WAY OF 763 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,466 BRINGING THE PAST BACK TO LIFE 764 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:26,766 SO I'M HAPPY TO KEEP AN OPEN 765 00:25:26,466 --> 00:25:28,300 MIND. 766 00:25:26,766 --> 00:25:29,566 AND AN EYE OVER MY SHOULDER. 767 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:32,500 THANK YOU FOR WATCHING TONIGHT.