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COMING UP TONIGHT
ON<i> KENTUCKY LIFE </i>

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A TASTE OF KENTUCKY'S 
BOURBON HISTORY 

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WITH A FIFTH GENERATION
DISTILLER IN MARION COUNTY 

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WE'LL PAY TRIBUTE TO 
THE LATE MINNIE BLACK 

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THE "GOURD LADY" FROM 
EAST BERNSTADT, KENTUCKY 

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AND REVISIT ONE OF THE 
MOST NOTORIOUS EVENTS 

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IN THE HISTORY OF KENTUCKY 

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THE FAMED HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD 

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME
TO<i> KENTUCKY LIFE </i>

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I'M BYRON CRAWFORD, YOUR HOST 

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WELL, IF YOU HAVE A TASTE
FOR THINGS TRULY KENTUCKY 

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THEN YOU'VE COME 
TO THE RIGHT PLACE 

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WITH US TONIGHT, YOU'LL 
TRAVEL BACK IN TIME 

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TO WHEN A LEGEND WAS BORN 

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THE FAMED FEUD BETWEEN THE
HATFIELDS AND THE McCOYS 

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IT'S A LEGACY 

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THAT FOREVER CHANGED THE WAY
MOUNTAIN PEOPLE ARE VIEWED 

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BUT AS YOU'LL SEE 

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IT'S A STORY THAT ENDURES 
BOTH AS ROMANTIC MYTH 

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AND DOCUMENTED FACT 

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FIRST WE'RE GOING TO SAMPLE A
LEGEND OF A DIFFERENT KIND 

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THE FINE QUALITIES OF 
KENTUCKY BOURBON WHISKEY 

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MAKE IT A SOUGHT AFTER PRODUCT

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BY CONNOISSEURS 
FROM NEAR AND FAR 

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THE SAMUELS' FAMILY HAS BEEN 
IN THE WHISKEY BUSINESS 

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FOR FIVE GENERATIONS 

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AND SINCE 1953, IT'S
TURNED OUT MAKER'S MARK 

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AT THE QUAINT DISTILLERY 
IN MARION COUNTY AT LORETTO 

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IN THIS PROFILE, WE LEARN
A LITTLE FAMILY HISTORY 

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ALONG WITH THE STORY OF THE RISE
OF THE KENTUCKY BOURBON INDUSTRY

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KENTUCKY IS FAMOUS FOR 
ITS BLUEGRASS FIELDS 

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AND THOROUGHBRED HORSES 

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AT ONE TIME, MOST PEOPLE 
WOULD HAVE MENTIONED 

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KENTUCKY BOURBON WHISKEY 
IN THE SAME BREATH 

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BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED 

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AMERICANS STILL DRINK 

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BUT THEY DRINK ONLY HALF
AS MUCH BOURBON TODAY 

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AS THEY DID 20 YEARS AGO 

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STILL, ALL IS NOT BLEAK 
IN BOURBON COUNTRY 

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WAREHOUSES FULL OF AGING BOURBON
STILL DOT THE COUNTRYSIDE 

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AND A GROWING EXPORT TRADE TO
EUROPE, ASIA AND AUSTRALIA 

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HAS STIMULATED NEW OPTIMISM 

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AS THE REST OF THE 
WORLD DISCOVERS 

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THIS UNIQUELY
AMERICAN SPIRIT 

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WHEN EASTERNERS FIRST STARTED
SETTLING HERE, IN 1774 

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KENTUCKY WAS PART OF VIRGINIA 

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PROBABLY THE FIRST WHISKEY 
WAS MADE WITHIN A YEAR OR 
TWO OF THE FIRST SETTLEMENT 

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IN 1780, THE VIRGINIA
LEGISLATURE 

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DIVIDED KENTUCKY 
INTO THREE COUNTIES 

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BY 1786, THERE WERE SEVEN 

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INCLUDING BOURBON COUNTY 

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NAMED FOR THE 
FRENCH ROYAL FAMILY 

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IN GRATITUDE FOR IT'S HELP
DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR 

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THE MOST IMPORTANT SETTLEMENT
IN BOURBON COUNTY 

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WAS LIMESTONE 

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WHICH LATER BECAME MAYSVILLE 

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FOR MANY YEARS, THIS WAS 
THE REGION'S MAIN PORT 

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ON THE OHIO RIVER 

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FROM WHICH WHISKEY AND OTHER
GOODS WERE FLOATED DOWNRIVER 

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TO NEW ORLEANS FOR SALE 

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ANY WHISKEY SHIPPED FROM 
THE PORT OF LIMESTONE 

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WAS LIABLE TO BE CONSIDERED
A PRODUCT OF BOURBON COUNTY 

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REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT WAS MADE 

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EVEN AFTER LIMESTONE BECAME
PART OF MASON COUNTY 

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AND LATER WHEN OTHER
COUNTIES WERE FORMED 

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MANY STILL CALLED THE 
REGION, "OLD BOURBON" 

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AS THE DEMAND FOR "OLD 
BOURBON" WHISKEY GREW 

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OTHER DISTILLERS HERE

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AND IN ADJACENT STATES 
BEGAN TO USE THE NAME 

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PIONEER DISTILLERS
WERE MAINLY FARMERS 

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THEY DISTILLED THEIR OWN GRAIN 

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AND MAYBE SOME FOR 
THEIR NEIGHBORS 

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MAKING WHISKEY IN A 
STILL LIKE THIS ONE 

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WAS AS COMMON AS MAKING 
SAUSAGE OR BAKING BREAD 

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THIS INDUSTRY EVOLVED SLOWLY 

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AND IT'S PRETTY HARD TO 
PUT YOUR FINGER ON WHEN 

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IT STARTED 

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OR REALLY WHEN IT STARTED
TO LOOK LIKE AN INDUSTRY 

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AND MUCH LESS LIKE A
DIVISION OF AGRICULTURE 

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UH, I GUESS REALLY, IT 
WAS THE EARLY 1840s 

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WHEN WISE KENTUCKY FARMERS 
WHO KNEW HOW TO MAKE WHISKEY 

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DECIDED THAT THEY NEEDED
TO FLIP THE PROCESS AROUND 

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AND INSTEAD OF HAVING
FARMERS WITH EXCESS 
GRAIN DRIVE THE PROCESS 

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HAVE CUSTOMERS LOOKING 
FOR GOOD RED WHISKEY 

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DRIVE THE PROCESS 

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AND HAVE THE FARMERS 

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THE AGRICULTURAL 
DIMENSION RESPOND TO IT 

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SO IT WAS MY GREAT 
GREAT GRANDFATHER 

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WHICH WOULD MAKE ME THE FIFTH
IN THE LINE OF "COMMERCIAL" 

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DISTILLERS 

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BUT IN FACT IT WAS MY GREAT
GREAT GRANDFATHER'S GRANDFATHER

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ROBERT SAMUELS 

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WHO MUSTERED OUT OF THE 
UH, PENNSYLVANIA MILITIA 
IN THE SPRING OF 1780 

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AS A DISTILLER FOR 
WASHINGTON'S ARMY 

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AND CAME TO KENTUCKY 

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UH, WITH A LAND GRANT 

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WITH A CORN WRIT 

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WHICH WAS THE FIRST FORM OF
HOMESTEADING IN THE COUNTRY 

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AND SET UP UH, A SMALL FARM 

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AND PROVIDED DISTILLING SERVICES
FOR NEIGHBORING FARMERS 

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WHO GREW TOO MUCH GRAIN TO
FEED IT ALL TO THE CATTLE 

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SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE
BEGINNING OF THE INDUSTRY

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I THINK, AS A COTTAGE INDUSTRY 

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BUT IT WAS REALLY UH, 
IN THE EARLY 1840s 

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THAT YOU STARTED TO SEE THE
COMMERCIAL DISTILLERIES DEVELOP 

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THEN YOU COME TO THE 
OLD T.W. SAMUELS PLANT 

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THE SAMUELS FAMILY BUILT 
THEIR FIRST DISTILLERY 

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ON OR NEAR THIS SITE IN 1844 

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THE DISTILLERY CLOSED YEARS AGO 

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AND THE WAREHOUSES WERE SOLD TO
HEAVEN HILL AND MAKER'S MARK 

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AND THAT'S WHERE THE SAMUELS
FAMILY MAKES WHISKEY TODAY 

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AT MAKER'S MARK IN MARION COUNTY

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BUT THE DEEDSVILLE PLANT 

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AND ITS OWNER BILL SAMUELS'
GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER 

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ARE REMEMBERED FOR 
THEIR UNIQUE ROLE 

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IN THE HISTORY OF THE 
AMERICAN CIVIL WAR 

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HE WAS A LARGE MAN 

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HE WAS ABOUT SIX SIX 

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UH, IN, IN THOSE DAYS 
WAS QUITE LARGE 

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UH, HE HAD AN... HE HAD AN OLDER
BROTHER, DR. REUBEN SAMUELS 

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WHO MARRIED JESSE AND
FRANK JAMES' MOTHER 

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AND RAISED THEM 

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DID A WONDERFUL JOB 

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AND UH, AS A RESULT 

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ENDED UP IN SOMEWHAT OF
A CARETAKER... ROLE 

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WITH QUANTRELL'S ARMY 

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AS THEY CAME TO KENTUCKY 

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TO AVOID THE DEMISE OF THE
LATTER PERIOD OF THE WAR 

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THEY CAME DIRECTLY
TO NELSON COUNTY 

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WHERE MY GREAT GREAT 
GRANDFATHER WAS HIGH SHERIFF 

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SO UH, THEY GOT WHAT 
THEY WERE LOOKING FOR 

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A PARDON WAS WORKED
OUT IN JULY 25th 

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AND IT ENDED UP BEING 
THE FINAL SURRENDER 

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OF AN ARMED CONFEDERATE BAND 
OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR 

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AND IT HAPPENED RIGHT
AT A DISTILLERY 

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OUR OLD FAMILY DISTILLERY 
IN NELSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY 

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DID NOT HAPPEN AT 
APPOMATTOX COURTHOUSE 

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AS GENERAL LEE THOUGHT 

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BUT IT WAS BACK HERE 
SOME 90 DAYS LATER 

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THIS PLACE WAS FOUNDED
AS A DISTILLERY FARM 

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BY THE BURKES FAMILY 

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WHO WERE UH, WERE FROM SCOTLAND 

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THEY CAME OVER ABOUT 1800 

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A LAND GRANT UH, FROM VIRGINIA 

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AND UH, THEY STARTED MAKING
WHISKEY IN A SPORADIC WAY 

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AS MANY OF US DID 

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THIS, THIS WAS UH, FAIRLY
TYPICAL DISTILLERY 

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200 BUSHEL SIZE 

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WHICH IS WHAT WE OPERATE TODAY 

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SO UH, IN A, IN A SENSE YOU'RE
ABLE TO SEE THE DISTILLERY 

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AS IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED 
IN THE 1870s, 1880s 

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BECAUSE THE PHYSICAL INTEGRITY
OF THE PLACE IS INTACT 

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OR WE USE IT TO OPERATE 
IT AT THE SAME CAPACITY 

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IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE 
OPERATED 120 YEARS AGO 

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UH, BUT THE BURKES FAMILY, 
THEY STARTED AND THEY STOPPED 

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THEY WERE FIRST SUCCESSFUL

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AND THEN NEXT GENERATION 
WASN'T SO SUCCESSFUL 

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AND THEN THERE WAS
A CHOLERA EPIDEMIC 

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THEN WE HAD UH, PROHIBITION 

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AND THAT, THAT KNOCKED 
US ALL A LOOP 

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DAD BOUGHT IT IN 
1953 AND STARTED 

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STARTED THE MOVE TOWARD 
MAKING HIS STYLE OF WHISKEY 

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AND IT'S IDEALLY SUITED 
IT FOR THAT GREAT WATER 

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SMALL SIZE 

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ISOLATED 

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UH, AND WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE 

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THE COMPANY WAS GOING 
TO WORK AS A COMPANY 

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STARTED THE UH, THE RESTORATION
OF THE OLD 19th CENTURY PLANT 

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WHICH IS, WHICH HAS BEEN A
LOT OF FUN AND GOOD THERAPY 

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I THINK MAKING A GREAT WHISKEY 

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MAKING A DISTINCTIVE WHISKEY 
IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN 

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THAN, THAN UH, THAN DOING
ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S DISTINCTIVE

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NUMBER ONE YOU HAVE... YOU HAVE
TO HAVE THE SELF-CONFIDENCE TO 

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TO FREE ALL THE 
TRADITION BOUND BURDENS 

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AND YOU NEED TO WANT 
TO DO IT REAL BAD 

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AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY
DISTINGUISHED MY FATHER 

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UH, FINANCIALLY HE DIDN'T
NEED TO DO ANY OF THIS STUFF 

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IT WAS, IT WAS AN 
INCREDIBLE BURDEN 

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AND IT WAS AN AWESOME RISK 

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AND, AND IT WORKED 

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AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT
BEFORE MY FATHER WENT OFF 

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TO THAT GREAT DISTILLERY 
IN THE SKY 

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HE WANTED TO BE ABLE 
TO GO WITH HIS HEAD UP 

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AND THAT MEANT CREATE
A BETTER WHISKEY 

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THAN ANYBODY IN THE 
FAMILY HAD EVER DONE 

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SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER 

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AND I THINK HE'S DONE IT 

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BOURBON WHISKEY WAS RECOGNIZED
AS A DISTINCTLY AMERICAN PRODUCT

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BY THE UNITED STATES
CONGRESS IN 1964 

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TO BE CALLED "BOURBON WHISKEY" 

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IT MUST BE MADE FROM A 
MASH CONTAINING 51 % CORN 

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AND LESSER AMOUNTS OF 
WHEAT, RYE AND BARLEY 

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ALONG WITH SOME YEAST
AND LIMESTONE WATER 

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BILL SAMUELS, SR. 

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ARRIVED AT HIS SPECIAL MIX 
OF GRAINS BY BAKING BREAD 

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SEEMS HE DIDN'T WANT 
TO WAIT SIX YEARS 

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FOR THE BOURBON TO AGE 

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SO HE TRIED OUT DIFFERENT
COMBINATIONS IN THE KITCHEN 

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RATHER THAN THE DISTILLERY 

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NOW<i> KENTUCKY LIFE</i> PAYS
TRIBUTE TO A SPECIAL LADY 

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FROM EAST BERNSTADT, KENTUCKY 

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WHO WAS KNOWN FAR AND
WIDE AS "THE GOURD LADY" 

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FROM THE GOURDS WHICH 
CHANGED WITH EVERY SEASON 

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MINNIE BLACK SUMMONED UP
CREATURES, MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS 

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EVEN PEOPLE 

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INCLUDING A NUMBER
OF SELF PORTRAITS 

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A VETERAN OF THE<i> TONIGHT SHOW</i>&nbsp;
AND<i> DAVID LETTERMAN </i>

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AS WELL AS KET 

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HERE NOW, IS THE 
LATE MINNIE BLACK 

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I'VE BEEN CARVING GOURDS 
AROUND 25 YEARS OR MAYBE MORE 

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I DON'T KNOW 

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I BEGAN TO... I 
RAISED THE GOURDS 

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AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT 
I WAS RAISING THEM FOR 

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AND I... 'CAUSE I JUST
LOVED TO WATCH THEM GROW 

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AND UH, MY GRANDCHILDREN LIKED
TO PLAY WITH THEM, YOU KNOW 

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AND THEY'D PLAY WITH THEM 

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AND THEN I BEGAN TO SEE
STRANGE THINGS IN GOURDS 

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THEY... THEY MADE SO MANY
DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SIZES 

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AND UH, THE VARIETIES UNTIL
IT REMINDS YOU OF SOME... 

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KIND OF A CREATURE,
MAYBE OR A BIRD 

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AND SO THAT WAY I GOT STARTED 

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I MADE THIS ONE FIRST 

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AND THAT DON'T... IT
LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE ME 

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IT RESEMBLES ME A LITTLE BIT 

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ALTHOUGH I THOUGHT I
LOOKED BETTER THAN THAT 

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AND I DIDN'T USE... THE 
HAIR THAT I HAD CUT OFF 

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THE CURL... THE END...
MY HAIR YOU KNOW 

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I'D SAVE IT 

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AND I'D PUT THE LIGHTER
GRAY ON THE FIRST ONE 

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AND THEN DOWN THAT WAY YOU
NOTICE THEY'RE STILL DARKER 

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WELL, NOW... THEN I
MADE THIS ONE NEXT 

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AND THEN THAT ONE 

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SO I'LL TELL YOU 
AND SHOW YOU HOW 

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THIS, THESE ARE MOLDED
ON A LITTLE GOURD 

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SEE THIS IS A LITTLE GOURD 

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AND I DID THIS WITH
A LITTLE TROWEL 

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IT'S JUST LIKE UH, A PAINTER'S
YOU KNOW, PALETTE LIKE

11:06.933 --> 11:10.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:45%
AND I, AND WHERE I
MOLDED THE NOSE 

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I'D TAKE MY FINGER, YOU KNOW 

11:11.733 --> 11:13.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80%
AND I... NOW THAT'S HARD TO DO 

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I HAVE A BOOK ON UH,
PREHISTORIC ANIMALS 

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AND THIS IS ONE 

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IT'S CALLED A "STEGOSAURUS" 

11:20.700 --> 11:22.466 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:55%
SEE, I LIKE THIS DUDE 

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BECAUSE I DID TRY 
PRETTY, PRETTY HARD 

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TO MAKE HIM EXACTLY
LIKE THE PICTURE 

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THIS IS ALL GOURD 

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YOU SEE NOW, LISTEN 

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HERE'S A GOURD 

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THIS ONE AND THIS ONE 

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THIS ONE HERE IS FROM
HERE DOWN TO... 

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YOU SEE, THERE'S WHERE 
IT GREW ON THE VINE 

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WELL, THIS IS PIECES OF GOURDS 

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THEY'RE CHEWED OUT 

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WITH A LITTLE UTILITY KNIFE 

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AND HERE'S WHERE I USED MY
SCULPTURE MOLD, YOU SEE 

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I DUG OUT A LITTLE RIDGE IN
THERE AND STUCK THEM...

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AND PUT THE SCULPTURE
MOLD ON EACH SIDE 

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AND THAT HARDENED 

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AND SEE HERE, I PUT... 
WHERE YOU PUT THE EYES 

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I MADE HIS... AND EVEN HIT'S
GOT EYELASHES, YOU SEE 

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AND SOME I HAVE TEETH IN 

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BUT THIS ONE DON'T HAVE TEETH 

12:07.233 --> 12:12.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
AND THEN I USE UH, THE, THE
GOURD SEED FOR TOENAILS 

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I MADE ALL THESE 
INSTRUMENTS MYSELF 

12:15.366 --> 12:17.066 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
I RAISED THE GOURDS
IN THE GARDEN 

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AND THEN MADE THEM 
INTO THE INSTRUMENT 

12:19.333 --> 12:22.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40%
NOW THIS IS THE 
INSTRUMENT I MOSTLY PLAY 

12:22.433 --> 12:23.433 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:55%
IN OUR ENTERTAINMENTS 

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IT'S CALLED THE "TRIPLE DRUM" 

12:25.966 --> 12:28.266 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:75%
NOW THIS IS MY LITTLE VIOLIN 

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OR SOME CALL IT A FIDDLE 

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COURSE THE OLD, THAT'S CALLED
THE OLD TIME WAY, YOU KNOW 

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FIDDLE 

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AND UH, THIS BOW 

12:35.800 --> 12:40.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
THE BOW IS MADE FROM HOR- THE,
THE HAIR OUT OF A HORSE'S TAIL 

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AND UH, COURSE YOU SEE HERE

12:42.700 --> 12:44.933 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
I JUST MADE THIS UP TO 
MAKE IT FUNNY LOOKING 

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(Playing violin) 

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IT'S NOT IN VERY GOOD TUNE 

12:51.366 --> 12:54.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
AND YOU KNOW WHEN I STARTED
RAISING GOURDS IS... 

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THEY'S SOME PEOPLE RAISES
THEM REAL LARGE 

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THEY CALL THE "NIGERIAN GIANT" 

12:58.366 --> 13:00.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
WELL, I WAS WANTING TO RAISE
ONE OF THOSE GOURDS SO BAD 

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THE IDEA CAME TO ME 
TO DRAW MY PICTURE HERE 

13:05.266 --> 13:07.033 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:50%
WITH THE GOURD, SEE 

13:07.133 --> 13:08.633 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60%
AND THIS IS WOODBURNING 

13:08.733 --> 13:11.466 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80%
THAT UH, OUTLINE IS WOODBURNING 

13:11.566 --> 13:15.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:65%
AND THERE'S THE YEAR THAT
I, THAT I MADE THIS, SEE 

13:15.633 --> 13:21.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
AND HERE IS WHAT I SAID, THIS
LITTLE VERSE THAT I SAID 

13:21.733 --> 13:23.533 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60%
I SAID, "LET IT BE SAID 

13:23.633 --> 13:25.200 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60%
"AS I LIE IN MY CASKET 

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"SHE RAISED A GOURD 

13:26.600 --> 13:27.800 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:65%
LARGE AS A BUSHEL BASKET" 

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AND HERE THEN, IS 
THE YEAR I WAS BORN 

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AND THE DATE 

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AND ON THIS SIDE 

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I'M LEAVING THIS
FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO 

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MINNIE WAS IN HER EARLY 90s 

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WHEN SHE MADE HER NETWORK
TELEVISION APPEARANCES 

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AND YOU CAN STILL 
VIEW HER WORK TODAY 

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IN EAST BERNSTADT IN LAUREL
COUNTY AT MINNIE'S GOURD MUSEUM 

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A FORMER COUNTRY STORE 

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MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO 

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EVENTS TOOK PLACE IN PIKE COUNTY
AND MINGO COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA 

14:04.433 --> 14:07.066 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
THAT WOULD LIVE FOREVER 
IN THE PUBLIC IMAGINATION 

14:08.066 --> 14:10.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:65%
TWO LOCAL FAMILIES BECAME
EMBROILED IN A FEUD 

14:10.566 --> 14:12.300 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80%
THAT ONCE TAKEN UP BY THE MEDIA 

14:12.400 --> 14:14.066 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:65%
TOOK ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN 

14:14.166 --> 14:16.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
THAT WENT FAR BEYOND
THE ACTUAL EVENTS 

14:16.766 --> 14:19.066 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55%
THAT HAPPENED AT THE 
CLOSE OF THE 19th CENTURY 

14:20.100 --> 14:22.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:65%
THE NAMES ARE AS COLORFUL
AS THE EVENTS TRAGIC 

14:23.000 --> 14:25.866 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40%
WILLIAM ANDERSON
"DEVIL ANSE" HATFIELD 

14:25.966 --> 14:28.600 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80%
AND RANDOLPH "OLD RANNELL" McCOY

14:28.700 --> 14:31.366 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
SOON TOURISTS EAGER TO 
CONNECT WITH THE PAST 

14:31.466 --> 14:34.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
WILL BE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT 
THE FAMED HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD 

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WITH THE HELP OF A TOUR 

14:36.333 --> 14:39.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55%
DESIGNED BY OFFICIALS
IN PIKE AND MINGO COUNTIES 

14:39.566 --> 14:42.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
IT'S A CHAPTER IN THE HISTORY
OF THE STATE AND THE NATION 

14:42.300 --> 14:44.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80%
THAT CONTINUES TO FASCINATE US 

14:44.200 --> 14:46.166 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
THOUGH MANY BEAR THE
SCARS OF ITS LEGACY 

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IN THE LAST HALF OF 
THE 19th CENTURY 

14:51.766 --> 14:54.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
THE TUG FORK OF THE
BIG SANDY RIVER 

14:54.133 --> 14:56.700 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
WHICH INCLUDED PARTS OF
KENTUCKY AND WEST VIRGINIA 

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LAY UNTOUCHED 

14:58.533 --> 15:02.000 align:start position:20% line:74% size:60%
HERE PEOPLE LIVED MUCH 
LIKE THEIR ANCESTORS 
HAD FOR GENERATIONS 

15:02.100 --> 15:04.300 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55%
THE ECONOMY AND DAILY
LIVES OF THESE PEOPLE 

15:04.400 --> 15:07.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55%
WERE ISOLATED FROM THE
FORCES OF MARKET CAPITALISM 

15:07.133 --> 15:08.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70%
THAT HAD BEEN TRANSFORMING 
THE REST OF THE NATION 

15:09.066 --> 15:10.466 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:75%
SINCE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION 

15:11.900 --> 15:16.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75%
THIS WAS AND STILL IS THE HOME
OF THE HATFIELDS AND THE McCOYS 

15:16.733 --> 15:18.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:75%
THEY WERE SUBSISTENCE FARMERS 

15:18.200 --> 15:20.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
WHO HAD LIVED PEACEFULLY
TOGETHER FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS

15:21.433 --> 15:24.366 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
BUT THEIR NAMES LIVE
IN AMERICAN FOLKLORE 

15:24.466 --> 15:28.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
UNDER THE STEREOTYPE OF
WARRING, LAWLESS MOUNTAINEERS 

15:28.633 --> 15:32.500 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
BASICALLY THE HARM THAT
WAS DONE, MOST OF ALL 

15:32.600 --> 15:35.333 align:start position:30% line:10% size:45%
WAS THE FACT THAT
WE WERE LABELED 

15:35.433 --> 15:38.300 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40%
UH, AND I MIGHT 
EVEN SAY THAT UH 

15:38.400 --> 15:40.066 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:75%
THAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WAS

15:40.166 --> 15:42.100 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:45%
THAT PEOPLE FROM 
EASTERN KENTUCKY 

15:42.200 --> 15:45.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
WERE WORTHLESS AND 
UH, NO-GOOD PEOPLE 

15:45.633 --> 15:48.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60%
UH, WOULDN'T WORK, LAZY
AND THAT KIND OF THING 

15:48.133 --> 15:50.333 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50%
THAT, THAT WAS THE 
STEREOTYPE THAT HAS HARMED 

15:50.433 --> 15:51.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:65%
NOT ONLY EASTERN KENTUCKY 

15:51.633 --> 15:53.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80%
IT HAS HARMED THE ENTIRE STATE 

15:54.100 --> 15:56.200 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:75%
THE FEUD DIED OUT AROUND 1897 

15:56.300 --> 15:59.800 align:start position:20% line:10% size:55%
BUT LIVED ON IN CHEAP
NOVELS AND SILENT FILMS 

15:59.900 --> 16:02.733 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
BY ONE COUNT, MORE THAN 
300 NICKELODEON FEATURES 

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ABOUT MOONSHINING AND FEUDING 
WERE MADE BETWEEN 1910 AND 1916 

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THE STORY OF THE HATFIELD-McCOY
FEUD REMAINS ENDURINGLY POPULAR 

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IT'S PEPPERED WITH
ROMANCE, DANGER AND DEATH 

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ALL ELEMENTS FASCINATING ENOUGH

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TO DRAW FEUD ENTHUSIASTS 
TO PIKE COUNTY, KENTUCKY 

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AND MINGO COUNTY, 
WEST VIRGINIA EVERY YEAR 

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IN RESPONSE, THE LEGEND 
HAS INSPIRED OFFICIALS 
OF BOTH STATES 

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TO CREATE A GUIDED TOUR 

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FOR THE CURIOUS WHO SEEK OUT THE
SITES WHERE BLOOD WAS SPILLED 

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DURING THE YEARS OF THE 
FAMED HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD 

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Johnson:
DEVIL ANSE HATFIELD WAS ONE OF
THE MAIN CHARACTERS, OF COURSE 

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AND UH, RANDOLPH McCOY 

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THEY WERE THE TWO WHO
MORE ROMANTICIZED 

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THAN ANYONE ELSE AS THE
PERPETUATORS OF UH, THE UH, FEUD

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AND OF COURSE ROSEANNA 
AND JOHNSE 

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WERE UH, WERE VERY 
FAVORITE UH, CHARACTERS 

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UH, THERE WAS ELLISON HATFIELD 

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OF COURSE ASA HARMON McCOY WAS
UH, WAS THE FIRST ONE KILLED 

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UH, FATALITY IN THAT 

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UH, AND UH, FRANK PHILLIPS 

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WAS UH, IN CHARGE OF 
THE SOME OF THE POSSES 

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LEGALLY AND NON-LEGALLY
AS IT TURNED OUT 

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IN THE PUBLIC IMAGINATION 

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THE FEUD LASTED 
HUNDREDS OF YEARS 

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HUNDREDS WERE KILLED 

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UNTRUE 

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BY MOST SCHOLARLY ACCOUNTS 
IT LASTED BUT 12 YEARS 

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AND ONLY 12 PEOPLE DIED
AS A DIRECT RESULT 

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IT ALL STARTED, IT'S SAID 

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WITH THE DEATH OF HARMON McCOY
AT THE CLOSE OF THE CIVIL WAR 

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HE FOUGHT FOR THE UNION 

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AND MOST HATFIELDS
AND McCOYS ALIKE 

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SYMPATHIZED WITH THE REBELS 

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DETAILS OF HIS DEATH VARY 

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BUT APPARENTLY HE WAS FOUND DEAD

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FOLLOWING WORDS WITH 
THE LOCAL REBEL LEAD 

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13 YEARS LATER, A DISPUTE 
AROSE OVER OWNERSHIP OF PIGS 

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BETWEEN RANNELL McCOY
AND FLOYD HATFIELD 

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A COUSIN OF HATFIELD
PATRIARCH, DEVIL ANSE 

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CONTRARY TO HOTHEADED 
HILLBILLY STEREOTYPES 

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THE MATTER WAS DECIDED IN COURT 

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NOT WITH A RIFLE 

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BUT TESTIMONY IN THE TRIAL

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DECIDED IN FAVOR 
OF THE HATFIELDS 

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LEFT SOME McCOYS SEETHING 

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BILL STATEN WHO TESTIFIED FOR
THE HATFIELDS WOUND UP DEAD 

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AND HIS KILLERS ACQUITTED 
ON GROUNDS OF SELF DEFENSE 

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THE HOG TRIAL MADE A SENSATION 

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AND UH, THAT ACCENTUATED THE
FLAVOR OF THE, OF THE FEUD 

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UH, SHORTLY AFTER THAT CAME
UH, BILL STATEN'S MURDER 

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UH, AND THEN AFTER THAT ROSEANNA
RAN AWAY WITH JOHNSE HATFIELD 

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ROMANCE ENTERS THE PICTURE 

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WHEN THE GOOD LOOKING SON 
OF DEVIL ANSE HATFIELD 

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AND THE DEMURE DAUGHTER 
OF RANNELL McCOY 

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FELL HEAD OVER HEELS IN 
LOVE ON ELECTION DAY 1880 

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DEVIL ANSE WOULDN'T CONSENT
TO A MARRIAGE TO A McCOY 

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ANOTHER ELECTION DAY 
BROUGHT MORE TROUBLE 

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DETAILS VARY 

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BUT WHEN THE SUN SET THAT DAY 

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ELLISON HATFIELD, 
BROTHER OF DEVIL ANSE 

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HAD BEEN STABBED AND 
SHOT AND LAY NEAR DEATH 

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HIS ACCUSED ASSAILANTS 
WERE ARRESTED 

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ON THEIR WAY TO 
JAIL IN PIKEVILLE 

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A POSSE LED BY 
DEVIL ANSE HATFIELD 

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CAPTURED THE MEN 

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AND TOOK THEM TO A REMOTE
CABIN IN WEST VIRGINIA 

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HATFIELD TERRITORY 

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DEVIL ANSE'S SENTENCE 

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IF HIS BROTHER LIVED, 
THE McCOYS WOULD LIVE 

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BUT ELLISON HATFIELD DID
NOT SURVIVE HIS INJURIES 

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AND WHAT FOLLOWED 

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WAS THE MOST FAMOUS AND
BLOODY ACTION OF THE FEUD 

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ANSE AND ABOUT 20 OTHERS 

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TOOK THE McCOY BOYS BACK 
ACROSS THE RIVER TO KENTUCKY 

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TIED THEM TO SOME PAWPAW BUSHES 
AND SHOT THEM IN COLD BLOOD. 

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INDICTMENTS WERE ISSUED 

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BUT NO ONE WAS ARRESTED 

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FIVE YEARS WENT BY 

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OLD RANNELL McCOY 
DIDN'T TAKE UP ARMS 

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BUT SOUGHT JUSTICE 
THROUGH LEGAL CHANNELS 

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HE REPEATEDLY PETITIONED
FOR THE KILLERS ARRESTS 

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THEN PERRY CLINE A DISTANT McCOY
RELATIVE AND PIKEVILLE LAWYER 

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PERSUADED THE GOVERNOR OF
KENTUCKY TO OFFER REWARDS 

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FOR DEVIL ANSE AND THE 
OTHERS IN WEST VIRGINIA 

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CLINE HAD HIS OWN AX TO GRIND 

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YEARS BEFORE, HE HAD LOST
A DISPUTE WITH DEVIL ANSE 

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OVER A VALUABLE PIECE
OF PROPERTY 

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PERRY CLINE DECIDED THAT HE WAS
GOING TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR 

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AND ASK THE GOVERNOR IF HE WOULD
UH, ESCALATE THE WHOLE UH THING 

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IN ORDER TO QUIET IT 

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TO BRING IT ALL OUT AND, AND
TO TELL IT TO THE PAPERS 

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TO UH, GET EVERYBODY 
EXCITED ABOUT IT 

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SO THAT WE COULD GET SOME ACTION

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GET SOME UH, APPROPRIATE
MILITIA ACTION 

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AND FINALLY THEN TO
COME IN AND QUIET IT 

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THE STATE OF KENTUCKY BEGAN
EXTRADITION PROCEEDINGS 

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AND INDEED THE FEUD HEATED UP 

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PRIVATE DETECTIVES LIKE FRANK
PHILLIPS WENT INTO THE MOUNTAINS

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DEVIL ANSE'S UNCLE WAS
KILLED IN WEST VIRGINIA 

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IN RETALIATION, THE 
STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA 

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OFFERED REWARDS FOR
THE McCOY INVADERS 

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BUT THE HATFIELDS HAD 
PLANNED THEIR OWN REVENGE 

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OLD RANNELL McCOY'S HOME
WAS BURNED TO THE GROUND 

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HIS WIFE WAS BEATEN 
NEARLY TO DEATH 

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AND HIS DAUGHTER ALAFARE 
SLAIN BRUTALLY IN THE SNOW 

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THIS CREATED A 
NATIONAL SENSATION 

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RUMORS FLEW THAT WHOLE
COMMUNITIES WERE HARMED 

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BOTH STATES ANNOUNCED 
PLANS TO SEND IN TROOPS 

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BUT WHEN EMISSARIES 
RETURNED WITH THE NEWS 

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THAT ONLY A FEW FAMILIES
WERE INVOLVED 

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AND THE VALLEY WAS QUIET 

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THE PLANS WERE DROPPED 

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THE VIOLENCE MAY HAVE ENDED 

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BUT NEWSPAPER COVERAGE AND LEGAL
BATTLES HAD JUST HEATED UP 

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WEST VIRGINIA CLAIMED 

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KENTUCKY HAD IGNORED PROPER 
EXTRADITION PROCEEDINGS 

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THE CASE CONTINUED 
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS 

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AND WENT ALL THE WAY TO 
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT 

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WEST VIRGINIA LOST 

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AND MURDER TRIALS ENSUED 

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IN SEPTEMBER 1889 EIGHT 
HATFIELD SUPPORTERS WERE
SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON 

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ELLISON MOUNTS CONVICTED 
OF THE MURDER OF OLD RANNELL
McCOY'S DAUGHTER ALAFARE 

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WAS HANGED IN FEBRUARY 1890 

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WOULD DEVIL ANSE RIDE INTO
PIKEVILLE THIRSTY FOR REVENGE? 

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DESPITE RUMORS THERE WERE 
NO FURTHER INCIDENTS 

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AFTER 12 YEARS AND 12 DEATHS 

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THE FEUD WAS FINALLY OVER 

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Johnson:
WE CAN'T LOOK AT ONE 
ASPECT OF THE FEUD 

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WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE
OTHER ASPECT OF THE FEUD 

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THERE'S, THERE IS THE 
LEGEND SIDE OF THE FEUD 

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WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL STORY

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AND CAN ENCOMPASS A
WONDERFUL LOVE STORY 

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UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE
LEGAL SIDE OF THE FEUD 

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AND UH, AND THAT'S KIND
OF A NICE STORY TOO 

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MAYBE NOT AS BEAUTIFUL BUT, 
BUT IT'S UH, IT'S LOGICAL 

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THE PRESS PLAYED UP THE TRAGIC
ROMANCE OF ROSEANNA McCOY 

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AND JOHNSE HATFIELD 

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AS A ROMEO AND JULIET AFFAIR 

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ROSEANNA'S LIFE WAS A SAD ONE 

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AS SHE REFUSED JOHNSE'S REPEATED
REQUEST FOR HER HAND IN MARRIAGE

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SHE LEFT HER HOME AND WENT
TO LIVE WITH AN AUNT 

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BUT SHE'S SAID TO HAVE
REMAINED TRUE TO HER LOVE 

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WHEN SHE HEARD THAT
HER BROTHERS, McCOYS 

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PLANNED TO AMBUSH JOHNSE 

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ARREST HIM FOR MOONSHINING
AND TAKE HIM TO JAIL 

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SHE RACED TO THE HATFIELD 
HOME ON HORSEBACK 

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BY THE LIGHT OF THE 
MOON TO WARN HIM 

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ROSEANNA BORE JOHNSE A
CHILD, SARAH ELIZABETH 

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THE LIFE OF THE INFANT 
WAS CLAIMED, HOWEVER 

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WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF BIRTH
DURING AN OUTBREAK OF MEASLES 

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HISTORIANS TODAY ARE EXAMINING
THE CAUSES OF THE FEUD 

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WHAT WAS HAPPENING 
IN THE MOUNTAINS 

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HISTORIAN ALTINA WALLER

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SPENT TEN YEARS WITH THE
HATFIELDS AND McCOYS 

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POURING OVER OLD COURT DOCUMENTS

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AND HER BOOK<i> FEUD</i> IS CONSIDERED
THE REAL STORY BY MANY 

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CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF 

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THE FEUD WASN'T SIMPLY AN
ESCALATION OF NORMAL BEHAVIOR 

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PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED
AND FRIGHTENED 

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MANY DIDN'T KNOW THEY 
LIVED IN A PLACE 

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WHERE SUCH THINGS COULD HAPPEN 

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PRIMARILY THEY DID 
BRING IT TO AN END 

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AND THEY HAVE INTERMARRIED MANY,
MANY TIMES SINCE THAT TIME 

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UH, THE POLITICAL STRUGGLES
ACTUALLY DID NOT, UH 

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INTERFERE WITH THE PROCESSES OF

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OF THE PEOPLE WHO
WERE OUT IN THE COUNTY 

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UH, THEY WENT TO COURT
AND THEY GOT THINGS DONE 

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AND THEY WENT HOME AND WENT TO
BED THE SAME WAY THEY DID BEFORE

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UH, AND THEIR NEIGHBORS WERE AS
FRIENDLY AS THEY WERE BEFORE 

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SO IT, IT DIDN'T 
TAKE LONG REALLY 

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FOR IT TO ACTUALLY QUIET
UH, AND IN THIS DAY 

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YOU, YOU JUST REALLY DON'T HEAR
TOO MUCH ABOUT IT AT ALL 

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ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE OF THE
EASTERN KENTUCKY, VIRGINIA 

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AND WEST VIRGINIA MOUNTAINS 

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BLAME THE FEUD AND ITS
SENSATIONAL COVERAGE 

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FOR NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES 

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MANY ALSO RECOGNIZE ITS
VALUE IN PROMOTING TOURISM 

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TO ONE OF THE MOST
BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH 

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AND WHILE LEGEND MAY NEVER BE
FULLY SEPARATED FROM FACT 

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THIS UNIQUE PIECE 
OF AMERICAN HISTORY 

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CAN SERVE AS A GATEWAY 
TO THE MOUNTAINS 

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AND THE FASCINATING EVENTS 
THAT TOOK PLACE LONG AGO 

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Johnson:
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO
DOCUMENT UH, ALL OF THESE THINGS

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BECAUSE WE ARE ACCUSED OF SO
MANY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THIS 

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UH, IF IT INDEED HAD A LOT TO
DO WITH UH, ROSEANNA AND JOHNSE 

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THAT NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED 

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IT NEEDS TO BE FIRM AND SURE 

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BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A
TOURISM INDUSTRY ON THAT PACKAGE

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AND WE'RE TRYING NOW TO DO THAT 

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THOUGH THE FEUD IS
MOST OFTEN CITED 

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AS THE SOURCE FOR
"HILLBILLY" STEREOTYPES 

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WHICH EMERGED IN BOOKS AND
MOVIES ABOUT THE REGION 

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OTHERS CREDIT TENNESSEE 
WRITER MARY MURFREE 

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IN HER SHORT STORIES 
PUBLISHED IN THE 1880s 

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SHE ESTABLISHED FICTIONAL
STOCK CHARACTERS 

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SUCH AS THE "DAISY MAE"
MOUNTAIN GIRL 

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THE "GRANNY" FIGURE AND 
THE DOMINEERING PATRIARCH 

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WELL, OUR JOURNEY TONIGHT HAS
TAKEN US INTO KENTUCKY'S PAST 

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FROM THE FIRST SETTLERS WHO
TURNED THEIR CORN INTO WHISKEY 

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AND BEGAN A TRADITION 

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THAT CONTINUES TO DEFINE WHAT 
IT MEANS TO BE A KENTUCKIAN 

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TRUE INDIVIDUALS LIKE MINNIE
BLACK WHO LIVED HER 97 YEARS 

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TO THE TUNE OF HER OWN DRUMMER 

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CREATING NEW OBJECTS
FROM NATURE'S OWN ART 

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THAT SHE GREW IN HER BACKYARD 

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AND THE TRAGIC DEATHS 
AMONG TWO PROUD FAMILIES 

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THE HATFIELDS AND McCOYS 

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THEIR STORY CAPTIVATES US
BECAUSE OF ITS VIOLENCE 

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BUT FOR ILL OR FOR GOOD 

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THEIR HISTORY IS A PART OF 
THE HISTORY OF ALL OF US

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WHO CALL OURSELVES KENTUCKIANS 

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THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS EVENING

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YOU'LL WANT TO MAKE A NOTE
TO JOIN ME NEXT WEEK 

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WHEN WE VISIT A PAGE IN THE
<i> KENTUCKY LIFE</i> SONGBOOK 

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WE'LL MEET CRAIG PIERPONT
OF EDMONTON 

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WHO BLENDS HIS LOVE OF
MUSIC AND WOODWORKING 

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INTO THE PROFESSION OF 
MAKING MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS 

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WE'LL CATCH A RISING STAR 

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GREG TURE, WHO HAS TAKEN 
THE WORLD OF OPERA BY STORM 

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MEET A LOUISVILLE 
BAND, UNION TREE 

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WHO IS MAKING A LEAP OF FAITH
IN THE RECORDING INDUSTRY 

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AND SAMPLE KENTUCKY'S 
TRADITIONAL FOLK MUSIC 

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AT THE KENTUCKY STATE FAIR 

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I HOPE TO SEE YOU THEN 

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GOOD NIGHT 

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IF YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION
ON ANY OF OUR STORIES TONIGHT 

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OR WANT TO HEAR MORE 
ABOUT NEXT WEEK'S SHOW 

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