1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,266 COMING UP TONIGHT ON KENTUCKY LIFE 2 00:00:10,366 --> 00:00:12,366 A TASTE OF KENTUCKY'S BOURBON HISTORY 3 00:00:12,466 --> 00:00:15,400 WITH A FIFTH GENERATION DISTILLER IN MARION COUNTY 4 00:00:16,133 --> 00:00:18,633 WE'LL PAY TRIBUTE TO THE LATE MINNIE BLACK 5 00:00:18,733 --> 00:00:21,133 THE "GOURD LADY" FROM EAST BERNSTADT, KENTUCKY 6 00:00:21,866 --> 00:00:24,433 AND REVISIT ONE OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS EVENTS 7 00:00:24,533 --> 00:00:26,033 IN THE HISTORY OF KENTUCKY 8 00:00:26,133 --> 00:00:28,833 THE FAMED HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD 9 00:00:33,933 --> 00:00:36,000 GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO KENTUCKY LIFE 10 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:37,933 I'M BYRON CRAWFORD, YOUR HOST 11 00:00:38,033 --> 00:00:40,866 WELL, IF YOU HAVE A TASTE FOR THINGS TRULY KENTUCKY 12 00:00:40,966 --> 00:00:42,933 THEN YOU'VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE 13 00:00:43,033 --> 00:00:45,200 WITH US TONIGHT, YOU'LL TRAVEL BACK IN TIME 14 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:47,300 TO WHEN A LEGEND WAS BORN 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,100 THE FAMED FEUD BETWEEN THE HATFIELDS AND THE McCOYS 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,566 IT'S A LEGACY 17 00:00:52,666 --> 00:00:55,366 THAT FOREVER CHANGED THE WAY MOUNTAIN PEOPLE ARE VIEWED 18 00:00:55,466 --> 00:00:56,633 BUT AS YOU'LL SEE 19 00:00:56,733 --> 00:00:59,500 IT'S A STORY THAT ENDURES BOTH AS ROMANTIC MYTH 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,933 AND DOCUMENTED FACT 21 00:01:01,766 --> 00:01:04,966 FIRST WE'RE GOING TO SAMPLE A LEGEND OF A DIFFERENT KIND 22 00:01:05,066 --> 00:01:07,500 THE FINE QUALITIES OF KENTUCKY BOURBON WHISKEY 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,166 MAKE IT A SOUGHT AFTER PRODUCT 24 00:01:09,266 --> 00:01:10,966 BY CONNOISSEURS FROM NEAR AND FAR 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,200 THE SAMUELS' FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THE WHISKEY BUSINESS 26 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:15,800 FOR FIVE GENERATIONS 27 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:19,100 AND SINCE 1953, IT'S TURNED OUT MAKER'S MARK 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,733 AT THE QUAINT DISTILLERY IN MARION COUNTY AT LORETTO 29 00:01:22,833 --> 00:01:25,633 IN THIS PROFILE, WE LEARN A LITTLE FAMILY HISTORY 30 00:01:25,733 --> 00:01:29,400 ALONG WITH THE STORY OF THE RISE OF THE KENTUCKY BOURBON INDUSTRY 31 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:34,066 KENTUCKY IS FAMOUS FOR ITS BLUEGRASS FIELDS 32 00:01:34,166 --> 00:01:36,133 AND THOROUGHBRED HORSES 33 00:01:36,233 --> 00:01:38,400 AT ONE TIME, MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE MENTIONED 34 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:41,500 KENTUCKY BOURBON WHISKEY IN THE SAME BREATH 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,166 BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED 36 00:01:43,266 --> 00:01:45,366 AMERICANS STILL DRINK 37 00:01:45,466 --> 00:01:48,066 BUT THEY DRINK ONLY HALF AS MUCH BOURBON TODAY 38 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:49,566 AS THEY DID 20 YEARS AGO 39 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:54,333 STILL, ALL IS NOT BLEAK IN BOURBON COUNTRY 40 00:01:54,433 --> 00:01:58,300 WAREHOUSES FULL OF AGING BOURBON STILL DOT THE COUNTRYSIDE 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,266 AND A GROWING EXPORT TRADE TO EUROPE, ASIA AND AUSTRALIA 42 00:02:02,366 --> 00:02:04,166 HAS STIMULATED NEW OPTIMISM 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,233 AS THE REST OF THE WORLD DISCOVERS 44 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:08,233 THIS UNIQUELY AMERICAN SPIRIT 45 00:02:09,033 --> 00:02:12,700 WHEN EASTERNERS FIRST STARTED SETTLING HERE, IN 1774 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,100 KENTUCKY WAS PART OF VIRGINIA 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,166 PROBABLY THE FIRST WHISKEY WAS MADE WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO OF THE FIRST SETTLEMENT 48 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:22,633 IN 1780, THE VIRGINIA LEGISLATURE 49 00:02:22,733 --> 00:02:25,133 DIVIDED KENTUCKY INTO THREE COUNTIES 50 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:28,600 BY 1786, THERE WERE SEVEN 51 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:30,500 INCLUDING BOURBON COUNTY 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,366 NAMED FOR THE FRENCH ROYAL FAMILY 53 00:02:32,466 --> 00:02:35,000 IN GRATITUDE FOR IT'S HELP DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR 54 00:02:36,433 --> 00:02:39,000 THE MOST IMPORTANT SETTLEMENT IN BOURBON COUNTY 55 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:40,600 WAS LIMESTONE 56 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:42,400 WHICH LATER BECAME MAYSVILLE 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,033 FOR MANY YEARS, THIS WAS THE REGION'S MAIN PORT 58 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:47,633 ON THE OHIO RIVER 59 00:02:47,733 --> 00:02:50,433 FROM WHICH WHISKEY AND OTHER GOODS WERE FLOATED DOWNRIVER 60 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:51,700 TO NEW ORLEANS FOR SALE 61 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:55,933 ANY WHISKEY SHIPPED FROM THE PORT OF LIMESTONE 62 00:02:56,033 --> 00:02:58,933 WAS LIABLE TO BE CONSIDERED A PRODUCT OF BOURBON COUNTY 63 00:02:59,033 --> 00:03:00,633 REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT WAS MADE 64 00:03:02,066 --> 00:03:05,566 EVEN AFTER LIMESTONE BECAME PART OF MASON COUNTY 65 00:03:05,666 --> 00:03:07,800 AND LATER WHEN OTHER COUNTIES WERE FORMED 66 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:10,633 MANY STILL CALLED THE REGION, "OLD BOURBON" 67 00:03:11,433 --> 00:03:14,300 AS THE DEMAND FOR "OLD BOURBON" WHISKEY GREW 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,600 OTHER DISTILLERS HERE 69 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:18,066 AND IN ADJACENT STATES BEGAN TO USE THE NAME 70 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,966 PIONEER DISTILLERS WERE MAINLY FARMERS 71 00:03:23,066 --> 00:03:25,200 THEY DISTILLED THEIR OWN GRAIN 72 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:27,200 AND MAYBE SOME FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS 73 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:29,466 MAKING WHISKEY IN A STILL LIKE THIS ONE 74 00:03:29,566 --> 00:03:32,433 WAS AS COMMON AS MAKING SAUSAGE OR BAKING BREAD 75 00:03:33,633 --> 00:03:35,900 THIS INDUSTRY EVOLVED SLOWLY 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,266 AND IT'S PRETTY HARD TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON WHEN 77 00:03:38,366 --> 00:03:39,866 IT STARTED 78 00:03:39,966 --> 00:03:41,833 OR REALLY WHEN IT STARTED TO LOOK LIKE AN INDUSTRY 79 00:03:41,933 --> 00:03:44,933 AND MUCH LESS LIKE A DIVISION OF AGRICULTURE 80 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:49,133 UH, I GUESS REALLY, IT WAS THE EARLY 1840s 81 00:03:49,233 --> 00:03:52,933 WHEN WISE KENTUCKY FARMERS WHO KNEW HOW TO MAKE WHISKEY 82 00:03:53,033 --> 00:03:55,566 DECIDED THAT THEY NEEDED TO FLIP THE PROCESS AROUND 83 00:03:55,666 --> 00:04:00,133 AND INSTEAD OF HAVING FARMERS WITH EXCESS GRAIN DRIVE THE PROCESS 84 00:04:00,233 --> 00:04:04,266 HAVE CUSTOMERS LOOKING FOR GOOD RED WHISKEY 85 00:04:04,366 --> 00:04:05,133 DRIVE THE PROCESS 86 00:04:05,233 --> 00:04:06,566 AND HAVE THE FARMERS 87 00:04:06,666 --> 00:04:08,833 THE AGRICULTURAL DIMENSION RESPOND TO IT 88 00:04:08,933 --> 00:04:10,533 SO IT WAS MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER 89 00:04:10,633 --> 00:04:14,066 WHICH WOULD MAKE ME THE FIFTH IN THE LINE OF "COMMERCIAL" 90 00:04:14,166 --> 00:04:15,533 DISTILLERS 91 00:04:15,633 --> 00:04:18,066 BUT IN FACT IT WAS MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER'S GRANDFATHER 92 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:20,066 ROBERT SAMUELS 93 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:25,800 WHO MUSTERED OUT OF THE UH, PENNSYLVANIA MILITIA IN THE SPRING OF 1780 94 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:27,733 AS A DISTILLER FOR WASHINGTON'S ARMY 95 00:04:27,833 --> 00:04:29,466 AND CAME TO KENTUCKY 96 00:04:29,566 --> 00:04:31,633 UH, WITH A LAND GRANT 97 00:04:31,733 --> 00:04:33,100 WITH A CORN WRIT 98 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,300 WHICH WAS THE FIRST FORM OF HOMESTEADING IN THE COUNTRY 99 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,433 AND SET UP UH, A SMALL FARM 100 00:04:38,533 --> 00:04:42,300 AND PROVIDED DISTILLING SERVICES FOR NEIGHBORING FARMERS 101 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,866 WHO GREW TOO MUCH GRAIN TO FEED IT ALL TO THE CATTLE 102 00:04:45,966 --> 00:04:48,366 SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE INDUSTRY 103 00:04:48,466 --> 00:04:50,233 I THINK, AS A COTTAGE INDUSTRY 104 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:53,933 BUT IT WAS REALLY UH, IN THE EARLY 1840s 105 00:04:54,033 --> 00:04:56,366 THAT YOU STARTED TO SEE THE COMMERCIAL DISTILLERIES DEVELOP 106 00:04:56,766 --> 00:05:00,433 THEN YOU COME TO THE OLD T.W. SAMUELS PLANT 107 00:05:00,533 --> 00:05:03,000 THE SAMUELS FAMILY BUILT THEIR FIRST DISTILLERY 108 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:05,533 ON OR NEAR THIS SITE IN 1844 109 00:05:06,633 --> 00:05:08,700 THE DISTILLERY CLOSED YEARS AGO 110 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,700 AND THE WAREHOUSES WERE SOLD TO HEAVEN HILL AND MAKER'S MARK 111 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:16,566 AND THAT'S WHERE THE SAMUELS FAMILY MAKES WHISKEY TODAY 112 00:05:16,666 --> 00:05:18,400 AT MAKER'S MARK IN MARION COUNTY 113 00:05:19,266 --> 00:05:20,700 BUT THE DEEDSVILLE PLANT 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,966 AND ITS OWNER BILL SAMUELS' GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER 115 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:26,033 ARE REMEMBERED FOR THEIR UNIQUE ROLE 116 00:05:26,133 --> 00:05:28,066 IN THE HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR 117 00:05:28,733 --> 00:05:30,500 HE WAS A LARGE MAN 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,366 HE WAS ABOUT SIX SIX 119 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:36,300 UH, IN, IN THOSE DAYS WAS QUITE LARGE 120 00:05:37,066 --> 00:05:42,566 UH, HE HAD AN... HE HAD AN OLDER BROTHER, DR. REUBEN SAMUELS 121 00:05:42,666 --> 00:05:45,266 WHO MARRIED JESSE AND FRANK JAMES' MOTHER 122 00:05:45,366 --> 00:05:46,433 AND RAISED THEM 123 00:05:46,533 --> 00:05:47,566 DID A WONDERFUL JOB 124 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:50,566 AND UH, AS A RESULT 125 00:05:50,666 --> 00:05:55,466 ENDED UP IN SOMEWHAT OF A CARETAKER... ROLE 126 00:05:55,566 --> 00:05:58,500 WITH QUANTRELL'S ARMY 127 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,100 AS THEY CAME TO KENTUCKY 128 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,366 TO AVOID THE DEMISE OF THE LATTER PERIOD OF THE WAR 129 00:06:03,466 --> 00:06:05,233 THEY CAME DIRECTLY TO NELSON COUNTY 130 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:08,500 WHERE MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS HIGH SHERIFF 131 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:12,800 SO UH, THEY GOT WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR 132 00:06:12,900 --> 00:06:16,766 A PARDON WAS WORKED OUT IN JULY 25th 133 00:06:16,866 --> 00:06:19,233 AND IT ENDED UP BEING THE FINAL SURRENDER 134 00:06:19,333 --> 00:06:22,666 OF AN ARMED CONFEDERATE BAND OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR 135 00:06:22,766 --> 00:06:25,100 AND IT HAPPENED RIGHT AT A DISTILLERY 136 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,733 OUR OLD FAMILY DISTILLERY IN NELSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY 137 00:06:28,833 --> 00:06:30,533 DID NOT HAPPEN AT APPOMATTOX COURTHOUSE 138 00:06:30,633 --> 00:06:32,166 AS GENERAL LEE THOUGHT 139 00:06:33,766 --> 00:06:35,666 BUT IT WAS BACK HERE SOME 90 DAYS LATER 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,266 THIS PLACE WAS FOUNDED AS A DISTILLERY FARM 141 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:40,900 BY THE BURKES FAMILY 142 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,866 WHO WERE UH, WERE FROM SCOTLAND 143 00:06:42,966 --> 00:06:44,366 THEY CAME OVER ABOUT 1800 144 00:06:44,466 --> 00:06:47,166 A LAND GRANT UH, FROM VIRGINIA 145 00:06:47,266 --> 00:06:50,433 AND UH, THEY STARTED MAKING WHISKEY IN A SPORADIC WAY 146 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:51,866 AS MANY OF US DID 147 00:06:51,966 --> 00:06:56,400 THIS, THIS WAS UH, FAIRLY TYPICAL DISTILLERY 148 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:58,500 200 BUSHEL SIZE 149 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,633 WHICH IS WHAT WE OPERATE TODAY 150 00:07:00,733 --> 00:07:05,766 SO UH, IN A, IN A SENSE YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THE DISTILLERY 151 00:07:05,866 --> 00:07:09,800 AS IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED IN THE 1870s, 1880s 152 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:14,400 BECAUSE THE PHYSICAL INTEGRITY OF THE PLACE IS INTACT 153 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:18,033 OR WE USE IT TO OPERATE IT AT THE SAME CAPACITY 154 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:20,466 IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE OPERATED 120 YEARS AGO 155 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:24,533 UH, BUT THE BURKES FAMILY, THEY STARTED AND THEY STOPPED 156 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:26,366 THEY WERE FIRST SUCCESSFUL 157 00:07:26,466 --> 00:07:28,366 AND THEN NEXT GENERATION WASN'T SO SUCCESSFUL 158 00:07:28,466 --> 00:07:30,933 AND THEN THERE WAS A CHOLERA EPIDEMIC 159 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:33,933 THEN WE HAD UH, PROHIBITION 160 00:07:34,033 --> 00:07:36,300 AND THAT, THAT KNOCKED US ALL A LOOP 161 00:07:36,666 --> 00:07:39,466 DAD BOUGHT IT IN 1953 AND STARTED 162 00:07:39,566 --> 00:07:43,500 STARTED THE MOVE TOWARD MAKING HIS STYLE OF WHISKEY 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,133 AND IT'S IDEALLY SUITED IT FOR THAT GREAT WATER 164 00:07:46,233 --> 00:07:47,800 SMALL SIZE 165 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:49,433 ISOLATED 166 00:07:49,533 --> 00:07:51,066 UH, AND WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE 167 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:52,666 THE COMPANY WAS GOING TO WORK AS A COMPANY 168 00:07:52,766 --> 00:07:56,966 STARTED THE UH, THE RESTORATION OF THE OLD 19th CENTURY PLANT 169 00:07:57,066 --> 00:08:00,366 WHICH IS, WHICH HAS BEEN A LOT OF FUN AND GOOD THERAPY 170 00:08:00,633 --> 00:08:02,000 I THINK MAKING A GREAT WHISKEY 171 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:04,533 MAKING A DISTINCTIVE WHISKEY IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN 172 00:08:04,633 --> 00:08:08,066 THAN, THAN UH, THAN DOING ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S DISTINCTIVE 173 00:08:08,166 --> 00:08:12,166 NUMBER ONE YOU HAVE... YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SELF-CONFIDENCE TO 174 00:08:12,266 --> 00:08:17,533 TO FREE ALL THE TRADITION BOUND BURDENS 175 00:08:17,633 --> 00:08:20,533 AND YOU NEED TO WANT TO DO IT REAL BAD 176 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:23,766 AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY DISTINGUISHED MY FATHER 177 00:08:23,866 --> 00:08:26,000 UH, FINANCIALLY HE DIDN'T NEED TO DO ANY OF THIS STUFF 178 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:28,433 IT WAS, IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE BURDEN 179 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:30,233 AND IT WAS AN AWESOME RISK 180 00:08:30,333 --> 00:08:31,966 AND, AND IT WORKED 181 00:08:32,066 --> 00:08:34,533 AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT BEFORE MY FATHER WENT OFF 182 00:08:34,633 --> 00:08:36,300 TO THAT GREAT DISTILLERY IN THE SKY 183 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,933 HE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GO WITH HIS HEAD UP 184 00:08:38,033 --> 00:08:40,166 AND THAT MEANT CREATE A BETTER WHISKEY 185 00:08:40,266 --> 00:08:42,000 THAN ANYBODY IN THE FAMILY HAD EVER DONE 186 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:43,766 SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER 187 00:08:43,866 --> 00:08:45,000 AND I THINK HE'S DONE IT 188 00:08:46,566 --> 00:08:50,466 BOURBON WHISKEY WAS RECOGNIZED AS A DISTINCTLY AMERICAN PRODUCT 189 00:08:50,566 --> 00:08:53,833 BY THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS IN 1964 190 00:08:53,933 --> 00:08:55,433 TO BE CALLED "BOURBON WHISKEY" 191 00:08:55,533 --> 00:08:59,133 IT MUST BE MADE FROM A MASH CONTAINING 51 % CORN 192 00:08:59,233 --> 00:09:01,566 AND LESSER AMOUNTS OF WHEAT, RYE AND BARLEY 193 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:03,733 ALONG WITH SOME YEAST AND LIMESTONE WATER 194 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:05,833 BILL SAMUELS, SR. 195 00:09:05,933 --> 00:09:09,266 ARRIVED AT HIS SPECIAL MIX OF GRAINS BY BAKING BREAD 196 00:09:09,366 --> 00:09:11,300 SEEMS HE DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT SIX YEARS 197 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,800 FOR THE BOURBON TO AGE 198 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:14,966 SO HE TRIED OUT DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS IN THE KITCHEN 199 00:09:15,066 --> 00:09:16,266 RATHER THAN THE DISTILLERY 200 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:20,433 NOW KENTUCKY LIFE PAYS TRIBUTE TO A SPECIAL LADY 201 00:09:20,533 --> 00:09:22,100 FROM EAST BERNSTADT, KENTUCKY 202 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,800 WHO WAS KNOWN FAR AND WIDE AS "THE GOURD LADY" 203 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,400 FROM THE GOURDS WHICH CHANGED WITH EVERY SEASON 204 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:32,066 MINNIE BLACK SUMMONED UP CREATURES, MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS 205 00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:33,266 EVEN PEOPLE 206 00:09:33,366 --> 00:09:35,300 INCLUDING A NUMBER OF SELF PORTRAITS 207 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,633 A VETERAN OF THE TONIGHT SHOW AND DAVID LETTERMAN 208 00:09:37,733 --> 00:09:39,266 AS WELL AS KET 209 00:09:39,366 --> 00:09:41,266 HERE NOW, IS THE LATE MINNIE BLACK 210 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:49,033 I'VE BEEN CARVING GOURDS AROUND 25 YEARS OR MAYBE MORE 211 00:09:49,133 --> 00:09:50,266 I DON'T KNOW 212 00:09:50,366 --> 00:09:52,366 I BEGAN TO... I RAISED THE GOURDS 213 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:54,800 AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS RAISING THEM FOR 214 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:58,300 AND I... 'CAUSE I JUST LOVED TO WATCH THEM GROW 215 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,933 AND UH, MY GRANDCHILDREN LIKED TO PLAY WITH THEM, YOU KNOW 216 00:10:02,033 --> 00:10:03,366 AND THEY'D PLAY WITH THEM 217 00:10:03,466 --> 00:10:07,800 AND THEN I BEGAN TO SEE STRANGE THINGS IN GOURDS 218 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:11,733 THEY... THEY MADE SO MANY DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SIZES 219 00:10:11,833 --> 00:10:16,733 AND UH, THE VARIETIES UNTIL IT REMINDS YOU OF SOME... 220 00:10:16,833 --> 00:10:18,833 KIND OF A CREATURE, MAYBE OR A BIRD 221 00:10:18,933 --> 00:10:21,166 AND SO THAT WAY I GOT STARTED 222 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:24,033 I MADE THIS ONE FIRST 223 00:10:24,133 --> 00:10:28,700 AND THAT DON'T... IT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE ME 224 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,033 IT RESEMBLES ME A LITTLE BIT 225 00:10:30,133 --> 00:10:32,133 ALTHOUGH I THOUGHT I LOOKED BETTER THAN THAT 226 00:10:32,566 --> 00:10:36,466 AND I DIDN'T USE... THE HAIR THAT I HAD CUT OFF 227 00:10:36,566 --> 00:10:38,533 THE CURL... THE END... MY HAIR YOU KNOW 228 00:10:38,633 --> 00:10:39,666 I'D SAVE IT 229 00:10:39,766 --> 00:10:43,300 AND I'D PUT THE LIGHTER GRAY ON THE FIRST ONE 230 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,133 AND THEN DOWN THAT WAY YOU NOTICE THEY'RE STILL DARKER 231 00:10:46,233 --> 00:10:50,266 WELL, NOW... THEN I MADE THIS ONE NEXT 232 00:10:50,366 --> 00:10:51,833 AND THEN THAT ONE 233 00:10:51,933 --> 00:10:54,466 SO I'LL TELL YOU AND SHOW YOU HOW 234 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:57,700 THIS, THESE ARE MOLDED ON A LITTLE GOURD 235 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,166 SEE THIS IS A LITTLE GOURD 236 00:10:59,266 --> 00:11:01,066 AND I DID THIS WITH A LITTLE TROWEL 237 00:11:01,166 --> 00:11:06,833 IT'S JUST LIKE UH, A PAINTER'S YOU KNOW, PALETTE LIKE 238 00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:10,000 AND I, AND WHERE I MOLDED THE NOSE 239 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:11,633 I'D TAKE MY FINGER, YOU KNOW 240 00:11:11,733 --> 00:11:13,433 AND I... NOW THAT'S HARD TO DO 241 00:11:13,533 --> 00:11:16,433 I HAVE A BOOK ON UH, PREHISTORIC ANIMALS 242 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:17,566 AND THIS IS ONE 243 00:11:17,666 --> 00:11:20,600 IT'S CALLED A "STEGOSAURUS" 244 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,466 SEE, I LIKE THIS DUDE 245 00:11:23,566 --> 00:11:26,566 BECAUSE I DID TRY PRETTY, PRETTY HARD 246 00:11:26,666 --> 00:11:29,233 TO MAKE HIM EXACTLY LIKE THE PICTURE 247 00:11:29,333 --> 00:11:30,566 THIS IS ALL GOURD 248 00:11:30,666 --> 00:11:32,133 YOU SEE NOW, LISTEN 249 00:11:32,233 --> 00:11:33,300 HERE'S A GOURD 250 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,266 THIS ONE AND THIS ONE 251 00:11:36,366 --> 00:11:38,633 THIS ONE HERE IS FROM HERE DOWN TO... 252 00:11:38,733 --> 00:11:40,066 YOU SEE, THERE'S WHERE IT GREW ON THE VINE 253 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,800 WELL, THIS IS PIECES OF GOURDS 254 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:44,033 THEY'RE CHEWED OUT 255 00:11:44,133 --> 00:11:46,200 WITH A LITTLE UTILITY KNIFE 256 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:49,166 AND HERE'S WHERE I USED MY SCULPTURE MOLD, YOU SEE 257 00:11:49,266 --> 00:11:51,566 I DUG OUT A LITTLE RIDGE IN THERE AND STUCK THEM... 258 00:11:51,666 --> 00:11:54,066 AND PUT THE SCULPTURE MOLD ON EACH SIDE 259 00:11:54,166 --> 00:11:55,733 AND THAT HARDENED 260 00:11:55,833 --> 00:11:59,066 AND SEE HERE, I PUT... WHERE YOU PUT THE EYES 261 00:11:59,166 --> 00:12:02,500 I MADE HIS... AND EVEN HIT'S GOT EYELASHES, YOU SEE 262 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,966 AND SOME I HAVE TEETH IN 263 00:12:05,066 --> 00:12:06,566 BUT THIS ONE DON'T HAVE TEETH 264 00:12:07,233 --> 00:12:12,766 AND THEN I USE UH, THE, THE GOURD SEED FOR TOENAILS 265 00:12:12,866 --> 00:12:15,266 I MADE ALL THESE INSTRUMENTS MYSELF 266 00:12:15,366 --> 00:12:17,066 I RAISED THE GOURDS IN THE GARDEN 267 00:12:17,166 --> 00:12:18,766 AND THEN MADE THEM INTO THE INSTRUMENT 268 00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:22,333 NOW THIS IS THE INSTRUMENT I MOSTLY PLAY 269 00:12:22,433 --> 00:12:23,433 IN OUR ENTERTAINMENTS 270 00:12:24,033 --> 00:12:25,866 IT'S CALLED THE "TRIPLE DRUM" 271 00:12:25,966 --> 00:12:28,266 NOW THIS IS MY LITTLE VIOLIN 272 00:12:28,866 --> 00:12:30,266 OR SOME CALL IT A FIDDLE 273 00:12:30,366 --> 00:12:32,433 COURSE THE OLD, THAT'S CALLED THE OLD TIME WAY, YOU KNOW 274 00:12:32,533 --> 00:12:33,200 FIDDLE 275 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:35,700 AND UH, THIS BOW 276 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,833 THE BOW IS MADE FROM HOR- THE, THE HAIR OUT OF A HORSE'S TAIL 277 00:12:40,933 --> 00:12:42,600 AND UH, COURSE YOU SEE HERE 278 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:44,933 I JUST MADE THIS UP TO MAKE IT FUNNY LOOKING 279 00:12:46,066 --> 00:12:49,600 (Playing violin) 280 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:50,933 IT'S NOT IN VERY GOOD TUNE 281 00:12:51,366 --> 00:12:54,233 AND YOU KNOW WHEN I STARTED RAISING GOURDS IS... 282 00:12:54,333 --> 00:12:56,500 THEY'S SOME PEOPLE RAISES THEM REAL LARGE 283 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,266 THEY CALL THE "NIGERIAN GIANT" 284 00:12:58,366 --> 00:13:00,800 WELL, I WAS WANTING TO RAISE ONE OF THOSE GOURDS SO BAD 285 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:05,166 THE IDEA CAME TO ME TO DRAW MY PICTURE HERE 286 00:13:05,266 --> 00:13:07,033 WITH THE GOURD, SEE 287 00:13:07,133 --> 00:13:08,633 AND THIS IS WOODBURNING 288 00:13:08,733 --> 00:13:11,466 THAT UH, OUTLINE IS WOODBURNING 289 00:13:11,566 --> 00:13:15,533 AND THERE'S THE YEAR THAT I, THAT I MADE THIS, SEE 290 00:13:15,633 --> 00:13:21,633 AND HERE IS WHAT I SAID, THIS LITTLE VERSE THAT I SAID 291 00:13:21,733 --> 00:13:23,533 I SAID, "LET IT BE SAID 292 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:25,200 "AS I LIE IN MY CASKET 293 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:26,500 "SHE RAISED A GOURD 294 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,800 LARGE AS A BUSHEL BASKET" 295 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:31,633 AND HERE THEN, IS THE YEAR I WAS BORN 296 00:13:31,733 --> 00:13:33,200 AND THE DATE 297 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,500 AND ON THIS SIDE 298 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,700 I'M LEAVING THIS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO 299 00:13:46,466 --> 00:13:47,933 MINNIE WAS IN HER EARLY 90s 300 00:13:48,033 --> 00:13:50,466 WHEN SHE MADE HER NETWORK TELEVISION APPEARANCES 301 00:13:50,566 --> 00:13:52,300 AND YOU CAN STILL VIEW HER WORK TODAY 302 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,033 IN EAST BERNSTADT IN LAUREL COUNTY AT MINNIE'S GOURD MUSEUM 303 00:13:56,133 --> 00:13:57,233 A FORMER COUNTRY STORE 304 00:13:58,666 --> 00:14:00,533 MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO 305 00:14:00,633 --> 00:14:04,333 EVENTS TOOK PLACE IN PIKE COUNTY AND MINGO COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA 306 00:14:04,433 --> 00:14:07,066 THAT WOULD LIVE FOREVER IN THE PUBLIC IMAGINATION 307 00:14:08,066 --> 00:14:10,466 TWO LOCAL FAMILIES BECAME EMBROILED IN A FEUD 308 00:14:10,566 --> 00:14:12,300 THAT ONCE TAKEN UP BY THE MEDIA 309 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,066 TOOK ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN 310 00:14:14,166 --> 00:14:16,666 THAT WENT FAR BEYOND THE ACTUAL EVENTS 311 00:14:16,766 --> 00:14:19,066 THAT HAPPENED AT THE CLOSE OF THE 19th CENTURY 312 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:22,900 THE NAMES ARE AS COLORFUL AS THE EVENTS TRAGIC 313 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,866 WILLIAM ANDERSON "DEVIL ANSE" HATFIELD 314 00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:28,600 AND RANDOLPH "OLD RANNELL" McCOY 315 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:31,366 SOON TOURISTS EAGER TO CONNECT WITH THE PAST 316 00:14:31,466 --> 00:14:34,766 WILL BE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE FAMED HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD 317 00:14:34,866 --> 00:14:36,233 WITH THE HELP OF A TOUR 318 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:39,466 DESIGNED BY OFFICIALS IN PIKE AND MINGO COUNTIES 319 00:14:39,566 --> 00:14:42,200 IT'S A CHAPTER IN THE HISTORY OF THE STATE AND THE NATION 320 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,100 THAT CONTINUES TO FASCINATE US 321 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,166 THOUGH MANY BEAR THE SCARS OF ITS LEGACY 322 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:51,666 IN THE LAST HALF OF THE 19th CENTURY 323 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:54,033 THE TUG FORK OF THE BIG SANDY RIVER 324 00:14:54,133 --> 00:14:56,700 WHICH INCLUDED PARTS OF KENTUCKY AND WEST VIRGINIA 325 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,800 LAY UNTOUCHED 326 00:14:58,533 --> 00:15:02,000 HERE PEOPLE LIVED MUCH LIKE THEIR ANCESTORS HAD FOR GENERATIONS 327 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:04,300 THE ECONOMY AND DAILY LIVES OF THESE PEOPLE 328 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,033 WERE ISOLATED FROM THE FORCES OF MARKET CAPITALISM 329 00:15:07,133 --> 00:15:08,966 THAT HAD BEEN TRANSFORMING THE REST OF THE NATION 330 00:15:09,066 --> 00:15:10,466 SINCE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION 331 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:16,633 THIS WAS AND STILL IS THE HOME OF THE HATFIELDS AND THE McCOYS 332 00:15:16,733 --> 00:15:18,100 THEY WERE SUBSISTENCE FARMERS 333 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,800 WHO HAD LIVED PEACEFULLY TOGETHER FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS 334 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:24,366 BUT THEIR NAMES LIVE IN AMERICAN FOLKLORE 335 00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:28,100 UNDER THE STEREOTYPE OF WARRING, LAWLESS MOUNTAINEERS 336 00:15:28,633 --> 00:15:32,500 BASICALLY THE HARM THAT WAS DONE, MOST OF ALL 337 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,333 WAS THE FACT THAT WE WERE LABELED 338 00:15:35,433 --> 00:15:38,300 UH, AND I MIGHT EVEN SAY THAT UH 339 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,066 THAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WAS 340 00:15:40,166 --> 00:15:42,100 THAT PEOPLE FROM EASTERN KENTUCKY 341 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,533 WERE WORTHLESS AND UH, NO-GOOD PEOPLE 342 00:15:45,633 --> 00:15:48,033 UH, WOULDN'T WORK, LAZY AND THAT KIND OF THING 343 00:15:48,133 --> 00:15:50,333 THAT, THAT WAS THE STEREOTYPE THAT HAS HARMED 344 00:15:50,433 --> 00:15:51,533 NOT ONLY EASTERN KENTUCKY 345 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:53,433 IT HAS HARMED THE ENTIRE STATE 346 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:56,200 THE FEUD DIED OUT AROUND 1897 347 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:59,800 BUT LIVED ON IN CHEAP NOVELS AND SILENT FILMS 348 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:02,733 BY ONE COUNT, MORE THAN 300 NICKELODEON FEATURES 349 00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:06,833 ABOUT MOONSHINING AND FEUDING WERE MADE BETWEEN 1910 AND 1916 350 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:15,566 THE STORY OF THE HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD REMAINS ENDURINGLY POPULAR 351 00:16:15,666 --> 00:16:18,500 IT'S PEPPERED WITH ROMANCE, DANGER AND DEATH 352 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,100 ALL ELEMENTS FASCINATING ENOUGH 353 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,833 TO DRAW FEUD ENTHUSIASTS TO PIKE COUNTY, KENTUCKY 354 00:16:22,933 --> 00:16:25,300 AND MINGO COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA EVERY YEAR 355 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,700 IN RESPONSE, THE LEGEND HAS INSPIRED OFFICIALS OF BOTH STATES 356 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,100 TO CREATE A GUIDED TOUR 357 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,666 FOR THE CURIOUS WHO SEEK OUT THE SITES WHERE BLOOD WAS SPILLED 358 00:16:33,766 --> 00:16:35,800 DURING THE YEARS OF THE FAMED HATFIELD-McCOY FEUD 359 00:16:36,833 --> 00:16:39,833 Johnson: DEVIL ANSE HATFIELD WAS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS, OF COURSE 360 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:41,500 AND UH, RANDOLPH McCOY 361 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,166 THEY WERE THE TWO WHO MORE ROMANTICIZED 362 00:16:44,266 --> 00:16:48,466 THAN ANYONE ELSE AS THE PERPETUATORS OF UH, THE UH, FEUD 363 00:16:48,566 --> 00:16:51,133 AND OF COURSE ROSEANNA AND JOHNSE 364 00:16:51,233 --> 00:16:55,200 WERE UH, WERE VERY FAVORITE UH, CHARACTERS 365 00:16:55,733 --> 00:16:57,700 UH, THERE WAS ELLISON HATFIELD 366 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,566 OF COURSE ASA HARMON McCOY WAS UH, WAS THE FIRST ONE KILLED 367 00:17:01,666 --> 00:17:03,333 UH, FATALITY IN THAT 368 00:17:03,433 --> 00:17:05,400 UH, AND UH, FRANK PHILLIPS 369 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:09,300 WAS UH, IN CHARGE OF THE SOME OF THE POSSES 370 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,966 LEGALLY AND NON-LEGALLY AS IT TURNED OUT 371 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:15,800 IN THE PUBLIC IMAGINATION 372 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,966 THE FEUD LASTED HUNDREDS OF YEARS 373 00:17:18,066 --> 00:17:19,633 HUNDREDS WERE KILLED 374 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:20,966 UNTRUE 375 00:17:21,066 --> 00:17:24,700 BY MOST SCHOLARLY ACCOUNTS IT LASTED BUT 12 YEARS 376 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,033 AND ONLY 12 PEOPLE DIED AS A DIRECT RESULT 377 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:29,100 IT ALL STARTED, IT'S SAID 378 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,166 WITH THE DEATH OF HARMON McCOY AT THE CLOSE OF THE CIVIL WAR 379 00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:33,933 HE FOUGHT FOR THE UNION 380 00:17:34,033 --> 00:17:36,000 AND MOST HATFIELDS AND McCOYS ALIKE 381 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:37,366 SYMPATHIZED WITH THE REBELS 382 00:17:38,433 --> 00:17:39,966 DETAILS OF HIS DEATH VARY 383 00:17:40,066 --> 00:17:41,633 BUT APPARENTLY HE WAS FOUND DEAD 384 00:17:41,733 --> 00:17:43,800 FOLLOWING WORDS WITH THE LOCAL REBEL LEAD 385 00:17:45,366 --> 00:17:49,066 13 YEARS LATER, A DISPUTE AROSE OVER OWNERSHIP OF PIGS 386 00:17:49,166 --> 00:17:51,633 BETWEEN RANNELL McCOY AND FLOYD HATFIELD 387 00:17:51,733 --> 00:17:53,600 A COUSIN OF HATFIELD PATRIARCH, DEVIL ANSE 388 00:17:54,866 --> 00:17:57,266 CONTRARY TO HOTHEADED HILLBILLY STEREOTYPES 389 00:17:57,366 --> 00:17:59,000 THE MATTER WAS DECIDED IN COURT 390 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:00,433 NOT WITH A RIFLE 391 00:18:01,266 --> 00:18:02,600 BUT TESTIMONY IN THE TRIAL 392 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:04,600 DECIDED IN FAVOR OF THE HATFIELDS 393 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:06,066 LEFT SOME McCOYS SEETHING 394 00:18:07,133 --> 00:18:10,666 BILL STATEN WHO TESTIFIED FOR THE HATFIELDS WOUND UP DEAD 395 00:18:10,766 --> 00:18:13,266 AND HIS KILLERS ACQUITTED ON GROUNDS OF SELF DEFENSE 396 00:18:13,933 --> 00:18:16,066 THE HOG TRIAL MADE A SENSATION 397 00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:19,700 AND UH, THAT ACCENTUATED THE FLAVOR OF THE, OF THE FEUD 398 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,366 UH, SHORTLY AFTER THAT CAME UH, BILL STATEN'S MURDER 399 00:18:24,466 --> 00:18:29,033 UH, AND THEN AFTER THAT ROSEANNA RAN AWAY WITH JOHNSE HATFIELD 400 00:18:30,166 --> 00:18:31,300 ROMANCE ENTERS THE PICTURE 401 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,566 WHEN THE GOOD LOOKING SON OF DEVIL ANSE HATFIELD 402 00:18:33,666 --> 00:18:35,800 AND THE DEMURE DAUGHTER OF RANNELL McCOY 403 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:38,666 FELL HEAD OVER HEELS IN LOVE ON ELECTION DAY 1880 404 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,100 DEVIL ANSE WOULDN'T CONSENT TO A MARRIAGE TO A McCOY 405 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,600 ANOTHER ELECTION DAY BROUGHT MORE TROUBLE 406 00:18:46,266 --> 00:18:47,200 DETAILS VARY 407 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:48,900 BUT WHEN THE SUN SET THAT DAY 408 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,400 ELLISON HATFIELD, BROTHER OF DEVIL ANSE 409 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,700 HAD BEEN STABBED AND SHOT AND LAY NEAR DEATH 410 00:18:55,166 --> 00:18:57,433 HIS ACCUSED ASSAILANTS WERE ARRESTED 411 00:18:57,533 --> 00:18:59,266 ON THEIR WAY TO JAIL IN PIKEVILLE 412 00:18:59,366 --> 00:19:01,866 A POSSE LED BY DEVIL ANSE HATFIELD 413 00:19:01,966 --> 00:19:03,233 CAPTURED THE MEN 414 00:19:03,333 --> 00:19:06,266 AND TOOK THEM TO A REMOTE CABIN IN WEST VIRGINIA 415 00:19:06,366 --> 00:19:07,400 HATFIELD TERRITORY 416 00:19:08,666 --> 00:19:10,266 DEVIL ANSE'S SENTENCE 417 00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:13,166 IF HIS BROTHER LIVED, THE McCOYS WOULD LIVE 418 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,966 BUT ELLISON HATFIELD DID NOT SURVIVE HIS INJURIES 419 00:19:18,066 --> 00:19:19,266 AND WHAT FOLLOWED 420 00:19:19,366 --> 00:19:21,533 WAS THE MOST FAMOUS AND BLOODY ACTION OF THE FEUD 421 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:23,666 ANSE AND ABOUT 20 OTHERS 422 00:19:23,766 --> 00:19:26,833 TOOK THE McCOY BOYS BACK ACROSS THE RIVER TO KENTUCKY 423 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,333 TIED THEM TO SOME PAWPAW BUSHES AND SHOT THEM IN COLD BLOOD. 424 00:19:31,733 --> 00:19:33,000 INDICTMENTS WERE ISSUED 425 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:34,566 BUT NO ONE WAS ARRESTED 426 00:19:35,666 --> 00:19:37,033 FIVE YEARS WENT BY 427 00:19:38,266 --> 00:19:40,400 OLD RANNELL McCOY DIDN'T TAKE UP ARMS 428 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:42,800 BUT SOUGHT JUSTICE THROUGH LEGAL CHANNELS 429 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:45,166 HE REPEATEDLY PETITIONED FOR THE KILLERS ARRESTS 430 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:50,766 THEN PERRY CLINE A DISTANT McCOY RELATIVE AND PIKEVILLE LAWYER 431 00:19:50,866 --> 00:19:53,233 PERSUADED THE GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY TO OFFER REWARDS 432 00:19:53,333 --> 00:19:55,333 FOR DEVIL ANSE AND THE OTHERS IN WEST VIRGINIA 433 00:19:56,466 --> 00:19:58,033 CLINE HAD HIS OWN AX TO GRIND 434 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,033 YEARS BEFORE, HE HAD LOST A DISPUTE WITH DEVIL ANSE 435 00:20:02,133 --> 00:20:03,766 OVER A VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY 436 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,233 PERRY CLINE DECIDED THAT HE WAS GOING TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR 437 00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:12,900 AND ASK THE GOVERNOR IF HE WOULD UH, ESCALATE THE WHOLE UH THING 438 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,400 IN ORDER TO QUIET IT 439 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:17,400 TO BRING IT ALL OUT AND, AND TO TELL IT TO THE PAPERS 440 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:19,533 TO UH, GET EVERYBODY EXCITED ABOUT IT 441 00:20:19,633 --> 00:20:21,233 SO THAT WE COULD GET SOME ACTION 442 00:20:21,333 --> 00:20:25,033 GET SOME UH, APPROPRIATE MILITIA ACTION 443 00:20:25,133 --> 00:20:27,600 AND FINALLY THEN TO COME IN AND QUIET IT 444 00:20:28,666 --> 00:20:31,400 THE STATE OF KENTUCKY BEGAN EXTRADITION PROCEEDINGS 445 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:33,633 AND INDEED THE FEUD HEATED UP 446 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:37,100 PRIVATE DETECTIVES LIKE FRANK PHILLIPS WENT INTO THE MOUNTAINS 447 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,833 DEVIL ANSE'S UNCLE WAS KILLED IN WEST VIRGINIA 448 00:20:39,933 --> 00:20:42,133 IN RETALIATION, THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA 449 00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:45,100 OFFERED REWARDS FOR THE McCOY INVADERS 450 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,733 BUT THE HATFIELDS HAD PLANNED THEIR OWN REVENGE 451 00:20:48,666 --> 00:20:51,466 OLD RANNELL McCOY'S HOME WAS BURNED TO THE GROUND 452 00:20:51,566 --> 00:20:53,266 HIS WIFE WAS BEATEN NEARLY TO DEATH 453 00:20:53,366 --> 00:20:55,933 AND HIS DAUGHTER ALAFARE SLAIN BRUTALLY IN THE SNOW 454 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:59,666 THIS CREATED A NATIONAL SENSATION 455 00:20:59,766 --> 00:21:02,066 RUMORS FLEW THAT WHOLE COMMUNITIES WERE HARMED 456 00:21:02,633 --> 00:21:04,900 BOTH STATES ANNOUNCED PLANS TO SEND IN TROOPS 457 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,000 BUT WHEN EMISSARIES RETURNED WITH THE NEWS 458 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:09,833 THAT ONLY A FEW FAMILIES WERE INVOLVED 459 00:21:09,933 --> 00:21:11,200 AND THE VALLEY WAS QUIET 460 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:12,366 THE PLANS WERE DROPPED 461 00:21:14,466 --> 00:21:16,233 THE VIOLENCE MAY HAVE ENDED 462 00:21:16,333 --> 00:21:19,400 BUT NEWSPAPER COVERAGE AND LEGAL BATTLES HAD JUST HEATED UP 463 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,333 WEST VIRGINIA CLAIMED 464 00:21:21,433 --> 00:21:24,200 KENTUCKY HAD IGNORED PROPER EXTRADITION PROCEEDINGS 465 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:25,866 THE CASE CONTINUED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS 466 00:21:25,966 --> 00:21:28,300 AND WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT 467 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,666 WEST VIRGINIA LOST 468 00:21:30,766 --> 00:21:32,333 AND MURDER TRIALS ENSUED 469 00:21:34,133 --> 00:21:39,600 IN SEPTEMBER 1889 EIGHT HATFIELD SUPPORTERS WERE SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON 470 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:43,933 ELLISON MOUNTS CONVICTED OF THE MURDER OF OLD RANNELL McCOY'S DAUGHTER ALAFARE 471 00:21:44,033 --> 00:21:46,733 WAS HANGED IN FEBRUARY 1890 472 00:21:46,833 --> 00:21:49,800 WOULD DEVIL ANSE RIDE INTO PIKEVILLE THIRSTY FOR REVENGE? 473 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:53,766 DESPITE RUMORS THERE WERE NO FURTHER INCIDENTS 474 00:21:54,733 --> 00:21:57,433 AFTER 12 YEARS AND 12 DEATHS 475 00:21:57,533 --> 00:21:59,066 THE FEUD WAS FINALLY OVER 476 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,333 Johnson: WE CAN'T LOOK AT ONE ASPECT OF THE FEUD 477 00:22:03,433 --> 00:22:05,666 WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE OTHER ASPECT OF THE FEUD 478 00:22:05,766 --> 00:22:07,666 THERE'S, THERE IS THE LEGEND SIDE OF THE FEUD 479 00:22:07,766 --> 00:22:09,000 WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL STORY 480 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,300 AND CAN ENCOMPASS A WONDERFUL LOVE STORY 481 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,833 UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE LEGAL SIDE OF THE FEUD 482 00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:16,600 AND UH, AND THAT'S KIND OF A NICE STORY TOO 483 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:20,600 MAYBE NOT AS BEAUTIFUL BUT, BUT IT'S UH, IT'S LOGICAL 484 00:22:21,933 --> 00:22:24,733 THE PRESS PLAYED UP THE TRAGIC ROMANCE OF ROSEANNA McCOY 485 00:22:24,833 --> 00:22:26,200 AND JOHNSE HATFIELD 486 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:29,200 AS A ROMEO AND JULIET AFFAIR 487 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:30,733 ROSEANNA'S LIFE WAS A SAD ONE 488 00:22:30,833 --> 00:22:34,800 AS SHE REFUSED JOHNSE'S REPEATED REQUEST FOR HER HAND IN MARRIAGE 489 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:37,666 SHE LEFT HER HOME AND WENT TO LIVE WITH AN AUNT 490 00:22:37,766 --> 00:22:40,200 BUT SHE'S SAID TO HAVE REMAINED TRUE TO HER LOVE 491 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:42,566 WHEN SHE HEARD THAT HER BROTHERS, McCOYS 492 00:22:42,666 --> 00:22:44,600 PLANNED TO AMBUSH JOHNSE 493 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:46,933 ARREST HIM FOR MOONSHINING AND TAKE HIM TO JAIL 494 00:22:47,033 --> 00:22:49,266 SHE RACED TO THE HATFIELD HOME ON HORSEBACK 495 00:22:49,366 --> 00:22:50,700 BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON TO WARN HIM 496 00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:55,833 ROSEANNA BORE JOHNSE A CHILD, SARAH ELIZABETH 497 00:22:55,933 --> 00:22:57,633 THE LIFE OF THE INFANT WAS CLAIMED, HOWEVER 498 00:22:57,733 --> 00:23:00,333 WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF BIRTH DURING AN OUTBREAK OF MEASLES 499 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,633 HISTORIANS TODAY ARE EXAMINING THE CAUSES OF THE FEUD 500 00:23:05,733 --> 00:23:07,233 WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE MOUNTAINS 501 00:23:08,433 --> 00:23:09,700 HISTORIAN ALTINA WALLER 502 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,933 SPENT TEN YEARS WITH THE HATFIELDS AND McCOYS 503 00:23:12,033 --> 00:23:13,966 POURING OVER OLD COURT DOCUMENTS 504 00:23:14,066 --> 00:23:17,233 AND HER BOOK FEUD IS CONSIDERED THE REAL STORY BY MANY 505 00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:22,100 CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF 506 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,100 THE FEUD WASN'T SIMPLY AN ESCALATION OF NORMAL BEHAVIOR 507 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,900 PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED AND FRIGHTENED 508 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,533 MANY DIDN'T KNOW THEY LIVED IN A PLACE 509 00:23:29,633 --> 00:23:31,266 WHERE SUCH THINGS COULD HAPPEN 510 00:23:31,366 --> 00:23:33,433 PRIMARILY THEY DID BRING IT TO AN END 511 00:23:33,533 --> 00:23:36,966 AND THEY HAVE INTERMARRIED MANY, MANY TIMES SINCE THAT TIME 512 00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:40,166 UH, THE POLITICAL STRUGGLES ACTUALLY DID NOT, UH 513 00:23:40,266 --> 00:23:42,866 INTERFERE WITH THE PROCESSES OF 514 00:23:42,966 --> 00:23:45,333 OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT IN THE COUNTY 515 00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:47,400 UH, THEY WENT TO COURT AND THEY GOT THINGS DONE 516 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,966 AND THEY WENT HOME AND WENT TO BED THE SAME WAY THEY DID BEFORE 517 00:23:51,066 --> 00:23:53,966 UH, AND THEIR NEIGHBORS WERE AS FRIENDLY AS THEY WERE BEFORE 518 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:55,633 SO IT, IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG REALLY 519 00:23:55,733 --> 00:23:59,266 FOR IT TO ACTUALLY QUIET UH, AND IN THIS DAY 520 00:23:59,366 --> 00:24:02,066 YOU, YOU JUST REALLY DON'T HEAR TOO MUCH ABOUT IT AT ALL 521 00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:05,966 ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE OF THE EASTERN KENTUCKY, VIRGINIA 522 00:24:06,066 --> 00:24:07,133 AND WEST VIRGINIA MOUNTAINS 523 00:24:07,233 --> 00:24:09,266 BLAME THE FEUD AND ITS SENSATIONAL COVERAGE 524 00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:11,000 FOR NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES 525 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:13,966 MANY ALSO RECOGNIZE ITS VALUE IN PROMOTING TOURISM 526 00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:16,233 TO ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH 527 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:20,900 AND WHILE LEGEND MAY NEVER BE FULLY SEPARATED FROM FACT 528 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,366 THIS UNIQUE PIECE OF AMERICAN HISTORY 529 00:24:23,466 --> 00:24:25,633 CAN SERVE AS A GATEWAY TO THE MOUNTAINS 530 00:24:25,733 --> 00:24:28,700 AND THE FASCINATING EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE LONG AGO 531 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,466 Johnson: I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DOCUMENT UH, ALL OF THESE THINGS 532 00:24:33,566 --> 00:24:37,800 BECAUSE WE ARE ACCUSED OF SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THIS 533 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:42,733 UH, IF IT INDEED HAD A LOT TO DO WITH UH, ROSEANNA AND JOHNSE 534 00:24:42,833 --> 00:24:44,200 THAT NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED 535 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:45,766 IT NEEDS TO BE FIRM AND SURE 536 00:24:45,866 --> 00:24:49,533 BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A TOURISM INDUSTRY ON THAT PACKAGE 537 00:24:49,633 --> 00:24:51,533 AND WE'RE TRYING NOW TO DO THAT 538 00:24:57,633 --> 00:24:59,466 THOUGH THE FEUD IS MOST OFTEN CITED 539 00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:02,133 AS THE SOURCE FOR "HILLBILLY" STEREOTYPES 540 00:25:02,233 --> 00:25:05,000 WHICH EMERGED IN BOOKS AND MOVIES ABOUT THE REGION 541 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:08,033 OTHERS CREDIT TENNESSEE WRITER MARY MURFREE 542 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:10,366 IN HER SHORT STORIES PUBLISHED IN THE 1880s 543 00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:12,800 SHE ESTABLISHED FICTIONAL STOCK CHARACTERS 544 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:15,133 SUCH AS THE "DAISY MAE" MOUNTAIN GIRL 545 00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:17,666 THE "GRANNY" FIGURE AND THE DOMINEERING PATRIARCH 546 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:22,233 WELL, OUR JOURNEY TONIGHT HAS TAKEN US INTO KENTUCKY'S PAST 547 00:25:22,333 --> 00:25:25,400 FROM THE FIRST SETTLERS WHO TURNED THEIR CORN INTO WHISKEY 548 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:26,766 AND BEGAN A TRADITION 549 00:25:26,866 --> 00:25:29,833 THAT CONTINUES TO DEFINE WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A KENTUCKIAN 550 00:25:29,933 --> 00:25:33,700 TRUE INDIVIDUALS LIKE MINNIE BLACK WHO LIVED HER 97 YEARS 551 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600 TO THE TUNE OF HER OWN DRUMMER 552 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,133 CREATING NEW OBJECTS FROM NATURE'S OWN ART 553 00:25:38,233 --> 00:25:40,533 THAT SHE GREW IN HER BACKYARD 554 00:25:40,633 --> 00:25:43,200 AND THE TRAGIC DEATHS AMONG TWO PROUD FAMILIES 555 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,500 THE HATFIELDS AND McCOYS 556 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,400 THEIR STORY CAPTIVATES US BECAUSE OF ITS VIOLENCE 557 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,066 BUT FOR ILL OR FOR GOOD 558 00:25:50,166 --> 00:25:52,700 THEIR HISTORY IS A PART OF THE HISTORY OF ALL OF US 559 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,800 WHO CALL OURSELVES KENTUCKIANS 560 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:57,266 THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS EVENING 561 00:25:57,366 --> 00:25:59,500 YOU'LL WANT TO MAKE A NOTE TO JOIN ME NEXT WEEK 562 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,966 WHEN WE VISIT A PAGE IN THE KENTUCKY LIFE SONGBOOK 563 00:26:03,066 --> 00:26:05,366 WE'LL MEET CRAIG PIERPONT OF EDMONTON 564 00:26:05,466 --> 00:26:07,900 WHO BLENDS HIS LOVE OF MUSIC AND WOODWORKING 565 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,100 INTO THE PROFESSION OF MAKING MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS 566 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,000 WE'LL CATCH A RISING STAR 567 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:16,333 GREG TURE, WHO HAS TAKEN THE WORLD OF OPERA BY STORM 568 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