1 00:00:04,266 --> 00:00:06,866 Governor Jones is a wonderful person. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,933 He was an excellent governor. 3 00:00:09,933 --> 00:00:14,000 More reactions on the death of former Governor Brereton Jones. 4 00:00:15,066 --> 00:00:18,200 Well, I think it's really easy 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,366 and accurate to say that he was well ahead of his time. 6 00:00:22,466 --> 00:00:25,000 Remembering Governor Jones as a crusader 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,033 for health care reform. 8 00:00:28,033 --> 00:00:28,966 We birthed him. 9 00:00:28,966 --> 00:00:30,100 We got to meet him. 10 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:32,166 And unfortunately, we had to bury him. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,933 A mother who lost a child to stillbirth 12 00:00:35,933 --> 00:00:39,400 shares her story and her mission to prevent others 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,700 from experiencing the same loss. 14 00:00:43,366 --> 00:00:46,366 Production of Kentucky Edition is made possible in part 15 00:00:46,366 --> 00:00:50,033 by the KET Endowment for Kentuck Productions, the Leonard Press 16 00:00:50,033 --> 00:00:53,166 Endowment for Public Affairs and the KET Millennium 17 00:00:53,166 --> 00:00:53,933 Fund. 18 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:07,366 Good evening. 19 00:01:07,366 --> 00:01:10,800 Welcome to Kentucky Edition On this Tuesday, September, 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,866 the 19th. I'm Renee Shaw. 21 00:01:12,866 --> 00:01:15,966 Thank you for spending some of your Tuesday night with us. 22 00:01:16,533 --> 00:01:19,200 Former Governor Brereton Jones is expected 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,900 to lie in state in the Capitol Rotunda. 24 00:01:22,233 --> 00:01:25,300 The former governor died at the age of 84. 25 00:01:25,466 --> 00:01:29,466 He was governor from 1991 to 1995. 26 00:01:29,766 --> 00:01:32,566 Governor Jones's funeral has yet to be announced. 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,100 We'll bring you more details as we get them. 28 00:01:35,433 --> 00:01:37,133 Today, Governor Andy Beshear 29 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:40,400 announced flags at state buildings will fly at half 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,500 staff until sundown on the day of interment. 31 00:01:43,833 --> 00:01:47,466 Some of our guests on last night's Kentucky Tonight knew 32 00:01:47,466 --> 00:01:49,000 and worked with Governor Jones 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,633 and they shared their thoughts about him in the future. 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Governor Jones is a wonderful person. 35 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:57,700 He was an excellent governor. He worked very hard. 36 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,800 He loved the Commonwealth of Kentucky. 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,533 He especially loved central Kentucky and horse country. 38 00:02:02,533 --> 00:02:05,100 And he did a lot of good things while he was in office. 39 00:02:05,133 --> 00:02:06,700 And he will be missed. And 40 00:02:07,666 --> 00:02:10,066 our thoughts and prayers are with the family. 41 00:02:10,066 --> 00:02:12,700 And I had the opportunity to work with him 42 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:17,133 very closely for several years and not a finer person. 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,966 So we're going to we're going to miss Governor Jones. 44 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:22,733 Richardson Jones was 45 00:02:22,733 --> 00:02:24,666 I would consider him a friend. 46 00:02:24,666 --> 00:02:27,166 We interacted on many levels. 47 00:02:27,166 --> 00:02:28,433 He did a lot of good things. 48 00:02:28,433 --> 00:02:30,533 He was a positive individual. 49 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:31,933 It was easy to talk to. 50 00:02:31,933 --> 00:02:34,800 He was very much involved and invested. 51 00:02:35,433 --> 00:02:37,766 And it's shocking to me, you know, 52 00:02:37,866 --> 00:02:39,100 something never would have thought 53 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:41,300 that would have happened and just found out about it 54 00:02:41,733 --> 00:02:42,766 a few hours ago. 55 00:02:42,766 --> 00:02:45,400 But he'll be missed. 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,833 Former Kentucky Congressman, State attorney general and state 57 00:02:49,833 --> 00:02:53,233 auditor Ben Chandler had known Governor Jones since Jones 58 00:02:53,233 --> 00:02:54,033 and his wife 59 00:02:54,033 --> 00:02:57,500 arrived in Woodford County, Kentucky, in the 1970s. 60 00:02:57,833 --> 00:03:01,166 Chandler, also a Democrat, was elected as state auditor 61 00:03:01,166 --> 00:03:03,833 when Jones became governor in 1991. 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,466 Chandler reflected on Jones's legacy 63 00:03:06,466 --> 00:03:09,733 as a champion of transformative health care that sought 64 00:03:09,733 --> 00:03:12,766 to widen access for the state's most vulnerable. 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,333 He had a 66 00:03:15,333 --> 00:03:19,266 way about him, a sincerity and a genuine this about him, 67 00:03:19,266 --> 00:03:21,900 particularly when it came to 68 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:24,500 certain issues that affected the people that that 69 00:03:24,533 --> 00:03:27,633 he represented that really were outstanding 70 00:03:27,633 --> 00:03:31,966 and one of them, of course, was his concern about health. 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,166 That's very health care. 72 00:03:33,166 --> 00:03:37,466 And he he made that a signature part of his life 73 00:03:37,466 --> 00:03:40,366 and he made it that that because he cared deeply 74 00:03:41,066 --> 00:03:43,700 and it was transformative and perhaps even 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 more progressive than the time would allow or even now. 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,100 Well, I think it's really easy 77 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:53,333 and accurate to say that he was well ahead of his time. 78 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:57,466 And I would go so far as to say he's still ahead of his time. 79 00:03:57,466 --> 00:03:59,633 We still haven't caught up with his vision 80 00:04:00,066 --> 00:04:02,166 of what health care ought to be in this country. 81 00:04:02,166 --> 00:04:05,433 He wanted to see everybody covered in a sensible way, 82 00:04:05,766 --> 00:04:07,533 and he put his career on the line 83 00:04:07,533 --> 00:04:11,266 to make that effort and had some early success. 84 00:04:11,933 --> 00:04:14,833 I think, you know, a lot of the industries 85 00:04:14,833 --> 00:04:17,833 and the powers that be in the health care industry 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,466 conspired against what he was trying to do. 87 00:04:21,466 --> 00:04:23,900 But but he cared deeply about it. 88 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:27,900 And I'll never forget him talking about how unfair it was 89 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:32,066 for a person to have a sickness, you know, often 90 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:36,500 not of their own doing, you know, cancer or diabetes 91 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:39,800 or what have you, some some preexisting condition. 92 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:45,133 And then because you had it, you also had the opportunity 93 00:04:45,133 --> 00:04:46,633 to lose everything that you'd worked 94 00:04:46,633 --> 00:04:49,600 your life to, to get, you know, it cost you. 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,200 It would cause you 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,866 to be bankrupt, essentially, and you couldn't get insurance. 97 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,100 And he just felt very deeply that that was unfair. 98 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:58,200 And he spent 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,133 a good part of his life trying to do something about it, 100 00:05:01,366 --> 00:05:03,666 the undoing of that health care reform act. 101 00:05:03,666 --> 00:05:04,500 Do you think that 102 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:07,633 that somehow douses his legacy or contribution 103 00:05:07,666 --> 00:05:08,833 to the political landscape? 104 00:05:08,833 --> 00:05:11,633 Well, I mean, ultimately, it was not 105 00:05:12,166 --> 00:05:14,666 successful here in Kentucky, But 106 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:18,100 number one, it should have been it was the right thing to do. 107 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:21,966 And I don't think it harms his legacy at all. 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,833 I mean, all you can do, having been in public life 109 00:05:25,133 --> 00:05:26,566 most of my life, 110 00:05:26,566 --> 00:05:29,366 I can tell you all you can do is give it your best effort 111 00:05:29,466 --> 00:05:33,133 and sometimes your best effort enough. 112 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,466 But he did get it done. 113 00:05:35,466 --> 00:05:37,600 He put his effort forward. 114 00:05:37,866 --> 00:05:41,633 It was a far seeing, thoughtful process 115 00:05:42,033 --> 00:05:45,733 that would have helped a whole lot of people, 116 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:47,933 the most vulnerable amongst us. 117 00:05:47,933 --> 00:05:50,933 And in my mind, that's what government ultimately is about. 118 00:05:50,933 --> 00:05:54,733 It's try to help those who are most vulnerable. 119 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,233 And that's what Governor Jones tried to do. 120 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:59,366 He was involved in the health care thing long 121 00:05:59,366 --> 00:06:01,300 before the health care reform. 122 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:02,800 I don't know if 123 00:06:02,966 --> 00:06:05,766 that many people remember, but he was trying to get 124 00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:09,633 people insured and put together a coalition, 125 00:06:09,633 --> 00:06:14,400 a private coalition of health care providers to provide free 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,533 care for people in need before he even got into public service. 127 00:06:18,833 --> 00:06:22,733 So he was he really walked the walk when it came to this. 128 00:06:22,733 --> 00:06:26,133 And I know I have a great deal of admiration for that. 129 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:26,666 Yeah. 130 00:06:27,666 --> 00:06:29,233 Governor Jones was also 131 00:06:29,233 --> 00:06:32,366 known for his contributions to the horse racing industry. 132 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,533 We have this statement 133 00:06:33,533 --> 00:06:36,666 from Keeneland President and CEO Shannon Arvin. 134 00:06:36,966 --> 00:06:40,033 Quote, He believed in racing and worked tirelessly 135 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:43,133 to improve our sport as a founding member of Breeders 136 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:46,166 Cup and the Kentucky Equine Education Project. 137 00:06:46,366 --> 00:06:47,466 A member of the Board 138 00:06:47,466 --> 00:06:50,433 of the Jockey Club and by championing formation 139 00:06:50,433 --> 00:06:54,000 of the Kentucky Breeders Incentive Fund and quote 140 00:06:54,666 --> 00:06:57,100 and in addition to being a founding member 141 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:59,033 of the Breeders Cup, Governor Jones 142 00:06:59,033 --> 00:07:01,633 was treasurer of the Breeders Cup board of directors 143 00:07:01,833 --> 00:07:03,300 in the 1980s. 144 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:04,200 Here's a statement 145 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,733 from Drew Fleming, president and CEO of Breeders Cup Limited. 146 00:07:08,033 --> 00:07:11,433 Quote, Not only did he position Breeders Cup for a long term 147 00:07:11,433 --> 00:07:15,033 success as a founding member, but as governor of Kentucky. 148 00:07:15,066 --> 00:07:17,666 He tirelessly promoted the thoroughbred industry 149 00:07:17,866 --> 00:07:19,500 while simultaneously building 150 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:24,000 a legacy that will live on through Airdrie Stud and quote. 151 00:07:25,166 --> 00:07:26,633 Turning now to politics. 152 00:07:26,633 --> 00:07:30,500 Planned Parenthood Action Kentucky says it will run ads 153 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:33,600 in opposition to Kentucky general election candidates 154 00:07:33,866 --> 00:07:35,900 who oppose abortion rights. 155 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:36,700 The group's state 156 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:40,300 director, Tamara Wieder, put out this statement, quote, 157 00:07:40,433 --> 00:07:43,466 Since the Dobbs decision, we've watched voters speak out 158 00:07:43,466 --> 00:07:46,233 and make clear with the defeat of Amendment two 159 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:49,500 that they do not want politicians making decisions 160 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,500 about their bodies, families and health care, 161 00:07:51,766 --> 00:07:55,400 or prosecuting nurses and doctors for doing their jobs. 162 00:07:55,666 --> 00:07:57,600 But antiabortion politicians 163 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,566 like Daniel Cameron refuse to refuse to listen. 164 00:08:00,833 --> 00:08:04,000 Instead, he continues to attack our reproduce two freedoms 165 00:08:04,266 --> 00:08:05,300 and threaten to further 166 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:08,433 erode our access to basic health care, unquote. 167 00:08:09,166 --> 00:08:11,700 Yesterday, in an interview with U.S. 168 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:13,000 Radio in Louisville, 169 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,133 Attorney General Cameron said he would sign an abortion 170 00:08:16,133 --> 00:08:19,933 bill that provided exceptions for rape and incest. 171 00:08:20,233 --> 00:08:23,233 A spokesperson for Governor Andy Beshear said Cameron's 172 00:08:23,233 --> 00:08:27,500 opposition to those exceptions has been documented many times 173 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:31,133 and that that is either, quote, a political move or a lie. 174 00:08:32,733 --> 00:08:33,233 Kentucky 175 00:08:33,233 --> 00:08:37,400 Democrats took their legal fight over GOP drawn boundaries 176 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,066 for state, legislative and congressional districts 177 00:08:40,066 --> 00:08:42,433 to the state's highest court today. 178 00:08:42,433 --> 00:08:45,600 It comes after a front line circuit court judge ruled 179 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,400 the maps were gerrymandered 180 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,733 but did not violate Kentucky's Constitution. 181 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:53,133 Now, here are the maps in question. 182 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:56,200 House Bill two redrew state House districts. 183 00:08:56,233 --> 00:08:58,666 The bill became law last January. 184 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,200 And here's the newly drawn U.S. 185 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,300 Congressional District map. 186 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,833 It also became law last January with the passage of Senate 187 00:09:06,833 --> 00:09:08,066 Bill three. 188 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:11,033 Representing the plaintiff, attorney Michael Newberry 189 00:09:11,566 --> 00:09:14,566 argued GOP lawmakers offered no reasons 190 00:09:14,566 --> 00:09:16,600 for why they made the changes they did 191 00:09:17,733 --> 00:09:19,266 to Justice. Nicole and Justice. 192 00:09:19,266 --> 00:09:20,700 Six questions about 193 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:23,833 What did the legislature say the purpose was for x or Y or Z. 194 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:26,033 The answer is nothing. 195 00:09:26,033 --> 00:09:27,366 I want to be very clear. 196 00:09:27,366 --> 00:09:29,800 Mr. Trendy may have speculated about something, and Mr. 197 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,900 Maddox this morning offered some potential reasons. 198 00:09:32,266 --> 00:09:33,500 There was no evidence 199 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:35,966 offered of the reasons for either of the maps. 200 00:09:36,233 --> 00:09:38,266 The position below was as a matter of law. 201 00:09:38,466 --> 00:09:41,733 It's our discretion and courts need to butt out. 202 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:44,266 That's been their position all along. 203 00:09:44,266 --> 00:09:45,633 So they didn't offer any evidence. 204 00:09:45,633 --> 00:09:47,033 They just tried to poke holes in ours. 205 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,700 Vic Maddox is an attorney in 206 00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:52,500 the Kentucky Attorney General's office. 207 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:55,800 He pushed back against claims of Partizan gerrymandering, 208 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,866 saying his opponents want to strip the 209 00:09:57,866 --> 00:10:01,266 responsibility from lawmakers and give it to machines. 210 00:10:02,233 --> 00:10:04,833 The Kentucky Democratic Party is asking this court 211 00:10:04,833 --> 00:10:08,266 to institute a revolution in redistricting. 212 00:10:08,466 --> 00:10:11,366 It wants social science metrics 213 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,433 that have been created in the last five or six years. 214 00:10:15,866 --> 00:10:18,733 This mapping ensemble and this efficiency gap 215 00:10:19,033 --> 00:10:23,200 to be used to take away the authority for redistricting 216 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,333 from the third floor of this building 217 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:27,166 to the computer lab of Harvard 218 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:29,466 and the faculty Lounge of Benefit, MIT 219 00:10:30,966 --> 00:10:33,300 Chief Justice Lawrence Van Meter said the court 220 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:36,266 would issue a ruling as soon as possible. 221 00:10:37,466 --> 00:10:39,300 What's working and what isn't? 222 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:41,533 At Kentucky's colleges and universities. 223 00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:43,033 Well, we talked about the state of 224 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:45,400 higher education last night on Kentucky. 225 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,233 Tonight, our panel included some of the state's leaders 226 00:10:48,233 --> 00:10:49,033 in education, 227 00:10:49,033 --> 00:10:51,200 including two university presidents 228 00:10:51,433 --> 00:10:53,566 and two members of the Kentucky General Assembly. 229 00:10:53,833 --> 00:10:56,933 They talked about enrollment, the cost of college education 230 00:10:56,933 --> 00:11:00,200 and federal help that isn't always being used. 231 00:11:00,933 --> 00:11:03,166 You know, there's too many students 232 00:11:03,633 --> 00:11:06,833 not going to a college or university in Kentucky. 233 00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:08,133 It's about 50%. 234 00:11:08,133 --> 00:11:10,233 Dr. Thompson can correct me on anything 235 00:11:10,233 --> 00:11:12,500 I'll say this evening, but it's about 50% 236 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:14,433 and it's declined for the last few years. 237 00:11:14,433 --> 00:11:18,433 So this enrollment challenge is very difficult for all of us. 238 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:20,533 Nationally, there's 239 00:11:20,533 --> 00:11:24,366 about 1.3 1.4 million less college 240 00:11:24,366 --> 00:11:27,166 going students than in 2020 241 00:11:28,166 --> 00:11:30,633 today versus 2020. 242 00:11:30,633 --> 00:11:33,733 So that challenge, whether you're an independent, 243 00:11:33,733 --> 00:11:35,966 private institution or a public institution, 244 00:11:35,966 --> 00:11:39,300 a large flagship institution, we're all facing this challenge. 245 00:11:39,566 --> 00:11:40,333 The point being 246 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:44,166 is that we're focused on what's good for this economy. 247 00:11:44,166 --> 00:11:48,033 We have a goal of 60 by 30 and 60% 248 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:51,800 of all of our citizens in Kentucky needs to have 249 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,933 a post-secondary credential that matters 250 00:11:54,166 --> 00:11:55,933 in order to build the workforce 251 00:11:55,933 --> 00:11:57,966 and continuing to build the economy. 252 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:02,033 Proud to say we're at 55%, and that's by the year 2030. 253 00:12:02,300 --> 00:12:04,466 60%, 2030? Yes, ma'am. 254 00:12:04,466 --> 00:12:06,400 So that's working. 255 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,300 What's not working? 256 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,100 We still have to do a lot better in our financial oversight. 257 00:12:10,266 --> 00:12:12,100 We have to still do better 258 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:15,633 looking at how we're serving our adult population. 259 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:19,100 We have to do better in serving our low income populations. 260 00:12:19,233 --> 00:12:21,800 Now, my numbers, I hear I hear what's being said here, 261 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,100 but my numbers, the ones I look at and I think from the budget 262 00:12:26,366 --> 00:12:29,766 suggests that about one third of that money 263 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:33,133 historically would come from the student, 264 00:12:33,133 --> 00:12:36,000 about two thirds from the state, roughly. 265 00:12:36,433 --> 00:12:38,633 And now that's flipped, 266 00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:41,166 at least from my perspective and the information 267 00:12:41,166 --> 00:12:42,633 I've been receiving. 268 00:12:42,633 --> 00:12:45,566 Well, that's bound to create 269 00:12:45,566 --> 00:12:46,866 a problem, 270 00:12:46,866 --> 00:12:49,233 particularly for those who are on the lower income level. 271 00:12:49,233 --> 00:12:49,900 And that's 272 00:12:50,333 --> 00:12:53,366 that's probably my most primary concern at this point. 273 00:12:53,633 --> 00:12:55,866 $54 million was the number. 274 00:12:55,866 --> 00:12:59,333 $54 million of federal financial aid is left on the table 275 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:02,766 every year by Kentucky families to help a family 276 00:13:02,766 --> 00:13:05,366 get that first generation student across the finish line. 277 00:13:05,866 --> 00:13:07,166 It is a perceived cost. 278 00:13:07,166 --> 00:13:09,466 And when we do go as as President McFadden said, 279 00:13:09,466 --> 00:13:11,200 and look at the return on the investment 280 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,666 over the lifetime of an earner, it is significant. 281 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:16,733 So if there are two key takeaways from your program 282 00:13:16,733 --> 00:13:19,466 tonight, families need to pursue every opportunity 283 00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:20,633 because the cost can be 284 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:23,000 minimized in ways that are very beneficial 285 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:27,800 to offsetting any any tuition cost and room and board cost. 286 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,766 So, number one, if you've got a student in your home 287 00:13:31,133 --> 00:13:33,200 or in your family that wants to go to college, 288 00:13:33,633 --> 00:13:35,500 the men and women in post-secondary education 289 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,966 in Kentucky want to help make that happen. 290 00:13:37,966 --> 00:13:39,733 So let's all work together to get that done. 291 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:43,833 We covered a lot of ground last night, including the U.S. 292 00:13:43,833 --> 00:13:45,066 Supreme Court's decision 293 00:13:45,066 --> 00:13:47,800 ending race based considerations on admissions. 294 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,600 You can see the full hour discussion online on demand 295 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,400 at Kate Dawgs kuci tonight. 296 00:13:56,566 --> 00:14:00,833 Workers at two Ford plants in Louisville are still on the job 297 00:14:00,833 --> 00:14:02,300 as the United Auto Workers 298 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:05,333 Union says its strike could expand soon. 299 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:07,933 It's day five of the strike. 300 00:14:07,933 --> 00:14:08,666 So far, 301 00:14:08,666 --> 00:14:09,966 workers have stopped working 302 00:14:09,966 --> 00:14:12,900 at three plants in Michigan, Missouri and Ohio. 303 00:14:13,233 --> 00:14:14,200 The UAW 304 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,533 says if the strike hasn't been resolved by Friday, workers 305 00:14:17,533 --> 00:14:20,500 at some other plants will also walk off the job. 306 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:22,500 And it's not clear which ones. 307 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:25,366 UAW Local 862 represents 308 00:14:25,366 --> 00:14:29,300 12,500 workers at the two Louisville Ford plants. 309 00:14:29,633 --> 00:14:31,666 The union wants higher pay for workers 310 00:14:31,833 --> 00:14:35,066 and the end of a quote, two tiered system that means 311 00:14:35,066 --> 00:14:38,566 lower pay and fewer benefits for newer workers. 312 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:43,366 Lexington could change its alcohol sales law. 313 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,133 And a western Kentucky 314 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:48,633 man is getting creative as he looks for a kidney donor. 315 00:14:48,866 --> 00:14:51,033 Our Toby Gibbs has all of that and more. 316 00:14:51,033 --> 00:14:53,233 And our Tuesday look at what's happening. 317 00:14:53,766 --> 00:14:55,800 The headlines around Kentucky, 318 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:07,333 the Lexington Fayette Urban County Council 319 00:15:07,333 --> 00:15:10,800 could change sale hours for alcoholic drinks on Sundays. 320 00:15:11,066 --> 00:15:13,833 WVXU reports that the proposed change 321 00:15:13,833 --> 00:15:17,533 would allow businesses to sell alcohol starting at 6 a.m. 322 00:15:17,533 --> 00:15:19,133 instead of 11 a.m.. 323 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:20,866 This new start time would be in line 324 00:15:20,866 --> 00:15:23,033 with sale hours for the rest of the week. 325 00:15:23,033 --> 00:15:24,566 Council members plan to discuss 326 00:15:24,566 --> 00:15:28,533 the proposed change in November. 327 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,166 Last week, the Bardstown City Council discussed a proposal 328 00:15:32,333 --> 00:15:34,466 that would limit where the homeless population 329 00:15:34,466 --> 00:15:37,500 is allowed to congregate in the city's downtown area. 330 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,433 The Nelson County Gazette reports 331 00:15:39,433 --> 00:15:42,833 the proposed ordinance would ban homeless people from camping 332 00:15:42,833 --> 00:15:46,866 or being on city owned or leased property between 8 p.m. 333 00:15:46,866 --> 00:15:48,066 and 8 a.m.. 334 00:15:48,066 --> 00:15:50,500 The ordinance also prohibits homeless people 335 00:15:50,666 --> 00:15:53,100 from living in abandoned or vacant properties. 336 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,200 If approved, violators could be cited for third 337 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,366 degree criminal trespassing, which is a misdemeanor. 338 00:16:01,633 --> 00:16:02,900 A memorial service and 339 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:05,733 stair climb was held at Eastern Kentucky University 340 00:16:05,933 --> 00:16:09,100 to remember the lives lost during the 911 attacks. 341 00:16:09,366 --> 00:16:12,866 The Richmond Register reports that ex College of Justice, 342 00:16:12,866 --> 00:16:16,700 Safety and Military Science hosted the event last Monday. 343 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:19,633 The event included a retelling of that day 344 00:16:19,633 --> 00:16:21,733 from a local retired firefighter. 345 00:16:21,733 --> 00:16:24,500 A bell ringing to honor the thousands of people who died. 346 00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:27,666 And a video showing reactions and news coverage 347 00:16:27,666 --> 00:16:30,000 from that day. 348 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,066 A 55 year old veteran has found unique ways to find 349 00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:37,533 a kidney donor through a yard sign and t shirt campaign. 350 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,533 The Paducah Sun reports that Anthony Cobb is hoping 351 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:43,400 his efforts will get him closer to a kidney transplant 352 00:16:43,666 --> 00:16:46,466 after undergoing a heart catheterization procedure 353 00:16:46,466 --> 00:16:47,666 in 2020. 354 00:16:47,666 --> 00:16:49,800 In the meantime, Cobb is on dialysis 355 00:16:50,033 --> 00:16:51,866 to maintain his kidney function. 356 00:16:52,966 --> 00:16:54,966 With headlines around Kentucky, 357 00:16:54,966 --> 00:16:57,466 I'm Toby Gibbs. 358 00:17:03,766 --> 00:17:06,733 Last year, Congress passed a resolution declaring 359 00:17:06,733 --> 00:17:10,600 September 19 National Stillbirth Prevention Day. 360 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:14,300 The day honors the more than 20,000 American families 361 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,966 who lose a baby to stillbirth every year. 362 00:17:17,366 --> 00:17:19,633 Supporters of new federal legislation aimed 363 00:17:19,633 --> 00:17:22,600 at increasing awareness and education about stillbirth 364 00:17:22,866 --> 00:17:25,133 say if passed, fewer families 365 00:17:25,133 --> 00:17:27,500 will have to suffer this profound loss. 366 00:17:28,166 --> 00:17:31,333 It is a bit mind blowing that it's 2023 367 00:17:31,333 --> 00:17:33,066 and we're still having this conversation. 368 00:17:33,066 --> 00:17:35,466 Stillbirth is a crisis in the United States. 369 00:17:35,466 --> 00:17:36,400 Every single year 370 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,900 we lose more than 21,000 babies to stillbirth. So 371 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:43,266 our organization exists to raise awareness about stillbirth. 372 00:17:43,266 --> 00:17:45,333 We are most known for our count 373 00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:47,566 the Stillbirth Prevention Program. 374 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,166 It is an awareness program for expectant parents 375 00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:50,633 in the third 376 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:52,733 trimester of pregnancy to get to know their baby's 377 00:17:52,733 --> 00:17:54,833 normal movement patterns in the third trimester 378 00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:57,266 and to speak up if they notice a change. 379 00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:58,700 And the reason why that's important 380 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:01,066 is because there's a lot of research 381 00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:03,066 that shows a change in a baby's movements 382 00:18:03,066 --> 00:18:06,300 in the third trimester is an early indication 383 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:08,100 that sometimes the only indication that 384 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:10,200 there might be something going wrong with that pregnancy. 385 00:18:10,333 --> 00:18:13,700 It's not always possible to determine the actual cause, 386 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:14,333 but we know that 387 00:18:14,333 --> 00:18:16,966 there are some risk factors that increase the mother's 388 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:19,066 chances of having a stillbirth. 389 00:18:19,066 --> 00:18:20,200 So, for example, 390 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,066 if a mother is above a certain age 391 00:18:22,066 --> 00:18:24,833 and that is in our population above the age of 35, 392 00:18:24,833 --> 00:18:27,033 she's at an increased risk of stillbirth. 393 00:18:27,033 --> 00:18:30,566 If she's a smoker, if she has high blood sugars, 394 00:18:30,566 --> 00:18:32,633 which is otherwise known as diabetes, 395 00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:34,600 has high blood pressures as well. 396 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,366 Those could be contributing factors. 397 00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:38,966 Now, sometimes also the babies are not formed 398 00:18:38,966 --> 00:18:40,266 the way that they're supposed to 399 00:18:40,266 --> 00:18:42,066 and they have structural abnormalities 400 00:18:42,066 --> 00:18:45,000 and that can put the baby at an increased risk of a stillbirth. 401 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,300 And unfortunately, 402 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:49,066 despite all of our efforts and everything that we can do, 403 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,766 we can definitely decrease the number dramatically. 404 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,000 But we can't prevent all stillbirths. 405 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,700 But it is a team effort. 406 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,833 So we always tell our expecting mothers 407 00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:01,233 whether they're high risk or low risk, to 408 00:19:02,033 --> 00:19:04,200 keep a close eye on the baby's kick count. 409 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,433 And if she's not feeling the baby move, 410 00:19:06,766 --> 00:19:10,333 then that would be an indication for her to call her doctors. 411 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,566 The count, the kicks AB has saved lives. 412 00:19:12,566 --> 00:19:14,200 We have saved 413 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,266 more than 100 lives that we know of collecting stories 414 00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:20,900 for moms and doctors in 35 states and in five countries. 415 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:24,133 And Iowa, where we started, we've seen a 32% stillbirth 416 00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:24,933 rate reduction. 417 00:19:24,933 --> 00:19:28,833 So behind all of that data and the numbers of babies 418 00:19:28,833 --> 00:19:32,333 that we know we can save are real life stories of moms 419 00:19:32,333 --> 00:19:34,900 who write us and doctors who write us and say, 420 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:38,200 I was paying attention, I was using your app. 421 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,133 I noticed a change in my baby's movements. 422 00:19:40,133 --> 00:19:41,666 I alerted my doctor. 423 00:19:41,666 --> 00:19:42,566 They ran tests. 424 00:19:42,566 --> 00:19:44,866 They noticed that my baby was in distress 425 00:19:44,866 --> 00:19:48,666 and they made a decision to get that baby here safely. 426 00:19:48,666 --> 00:19:49,933 The risk of stillbirth, 427 00:19:49,933 --> 00:19:52,600 you know, generally is about one in 160. 428 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,233 But if you follow the ultrasound schedule, that is for 429 00:19:58,233 --> 00:20:01,166 those people that are deemed to be high risk of stillbirth, 430 00:20:01,533 --> 00:20:03,900 and they do what we call a biophysical profile, 431 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:04,766 which is when they look 432 00:20:04,766 --> 00:20:06,500 at certain things in the baby to tell us 433 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:09,600 that the baby is healthy and happy, that number drops 434 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,100 to one in 1250. 435 00:20:12,666 --> 00:20:15,666 We see the tide changing in America. 436 00:20:15,666 --> 00:20:18,100 That stillbirth has often been overlooked. 437 00:20:18,433 --> 00:20:19,966 But I would say in the last two years 438 00:20:19,966 --> 00:20:22,266 we are really starting to see Congress pay attention. 439 00:20:22,266 --> 00:20:24,333 We're seeing public health leaders pay attention. 440 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:26,266 The Maternal and Child Health Stillbirth Prevention 441 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:28,500 Act was introduced in Congress this summer. 442 00:20:28,733 --> 00:20:31,900 There's overwhelming bipartisan support for it in both chambers 443 00:20:32,533 --> 00:20:35,366 because everybody wants babies to arrive safely. 444 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,266 And what this legislation would do 445 00:20:37,266 --> 00:20:38,633 is add the words stillbirth 446 00:20:38,633 --> 00:20:40,700 and Stillbirth Prevention to Title five. 447 00:20:40,733 --> 00:20:41,900 There is some confusion 448 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,133 with some state health departments 449 00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:45,766 about whether they can even use their title $5. 450 00:20:46,166 --> 00:20:48,000 And it's also 451 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,533 they're taking their cues from Congress 452 00:20:49,533 --> 00:20:51,266 because that's where the money comes from. 453 00:20:51,266 --> 00:20:54,733 So if Congress isn't listing it as a priority, then it's also 454 00:20:55,366 --> 00:20:57,400 become not a priority for them. 455 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,700 And that needs to change because there are so many proven 456 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,433 intervention efforts that if you just had that education 457 00:21:05,433 --> 00:21:07,200 there, that lives would be saved. 458 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,300 We just need to have more of the conversation 459 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,833 in the prenatal space with more expectant parents. 460 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,500 Members of Healthy Birth Day 461 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:18,366 are on Capitol Hill today speaking to lawmakers 462 00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:20,700 about stillbirth prevention legislation. 463 00:21:20,966 --> 00:21:23,766 One law of a mother has also been a vocal supporter 464 00:21:23,766 --> 00:21:25,933 of stillbirth, prevention and education. 465 00:21:25,933 --> 00:21:26,633 Ray Hofmann. 466 00:21:26,633 --> 00:21:28,800 Jagger has written about her experience 467 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:31,900 losing a child to stillbirth in 2021. 468 00:21:32,233 --> 00:21:33,733 She says more than a quarter 469 00:21:33,733 --> 00:21:37,433 of all stillbirths can be prevented with education 470 00:21:37,433 --> 00:21:40,233 and information sharing. 471 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,566 I think the problem with understanding stillbirth 472 00:21:42,566 --> 00:21:44,933 is that it's so stigmatized people don't talk about it. 473 00:21:45,166 --> 00:21:48,500 I think the first step to prevention is telling our story. 474 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,600 We knew Tim Fox Allen, 475 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,466 but we had as much planned as possible. 476 00:21:53,466 --> 00:21:54,266 We had a name, 477 00:21:54,266 --> 00:21:57,733 we had a nursery already, we had lots of clothes. 478 00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:59,666 We had all the things that someone would have 479 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:00,666 when they're expecting 480 00:22:00,666 --> 00:22:03,366 to have a living baby that breathes grace. 481 00:22:03,366 --> 00:22:05,633 Pregnancy with Evie was very uneventful, 482 00:22:05,633 --> 00:22:07,900 successful, as I think we naively assumed 483 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:10,133 that foxes would be the same way. 484 00:22:10,133 --> 00:22:12,933 And I remember thinking, know, this is just another visit. 485 00:22:12,933 --> 00:22:15,066 We had a textbook normal, healthy pregnancy. 486 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,566 It was our 32 week 487 00:22:16,566 --> 00:22:18,633 checkup. The OB went to find the heartbeat 488 00:22:18,633 --> 00:22:20,566 and she couldn't find it. 489 00:22:20,566 --> 00:22:23,100 And then she tried another machine and couldn't find it. 490 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,933 And then the reality set in that, Oh, our baby doesn't 491 00:22:26,933 --> 00:22:28,733 have a heartbeat. That means our baby is dead. 492 00:22:28,733 --> 00:22:34,633 And that was when our reality changed as we know it. 493 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,966 I begged to be induced that day, 494 00:22:36,966 --> 00:22:38,200 even though I knew that our baby 495 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,166 was going to be born on Thanksgiving Day. 496 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:43,766 But I think we both, especially Rae, wanted to induce 497 00:22:44,766 --> 00:22:45,566 and just 498 00:22:46,066 --> 00:22:49,900 be done with the nightmares as soon as possible. 499 00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:51,700 But turns out it's not super soon. 500 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:53,700 It was still like 24 hours 501 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,666 from when he was finally born. 502 00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:58,466 So it was it was a long time. 503 00:22:58,466 --> 00:23:00,400 It's cruel in our country 504 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,166 because there is no place to birth 505 00:23:02,166 --> 00:23:04,233 where you don't hear the sounds of moving 506 00:23:04,233 --> 00:23:07,200 heartbeats and babies crying for the first time in their moms 507 00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:09,700 so happy that they have this baby. 508 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:13,000 And then you are in between those rooms and it's silent. 509 00:23:13,366 --> 00:23:15,166 You hear no heartbeat. 510 00:23:15,166 --> 00:23:16,366 Your doctor is not coming in 511 00:23:16,366 --> 00:23:17,833 or your nurse to check on the baby. 512 00:23:17,833 --> 00:23:20,333 And you know, is the baby safe? Is the baby going to be born? 513 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,800 You are just there on your own 514 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000 trying to come to terms with the fact that 515 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,400 you are going to meet your baby just like everyone else. 516 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:29,866 But then you have to also plan a funeral. 517 00:23:29,866 --> 00:23:31,000 So we birthed him. 518 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,966 He was real. 519 00:23:32,966 --> 00:23:35,800 He existed. He had a name. 520 00:23:36,566 --> 00:23:38,066 We got to hold him. 521 00:23:38,066 --> 00:23:42,400 And I think that helped me. 522 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,366 This reminds us that although he is not with us 523 00:23:45,366 --> 00:23:47,100 now, he was real. 524 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,233 We birthed him. We got to meet him 525 00:23:49,233 --> 00:23:51,233 and unfortunately, we had to bury him. 526 00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:53,600 But he's very much still a part of our lives. 527 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,366 And having him here reminds our daughter 528 00:23:56,366 --> 00:23:58,766 that, you know, she had a brother 529 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,666 that isn't here and that he's still a part of our family. 530 00:24:02,966 --> 00:24:06,200 We have created a space for him in our family 531 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,033 where he can be talked about and it's not as much of 532 00:24:10,033 --> 00:24:11,800 a hard thing to bring up anymore. 533 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,266 He is just fully synthesized into our family with us. 534 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:16,333 I think what we needed from anyone, 535 00:24:16,333 --> 00:24:19,966 which we didn't know was someone to just sit with us 536 00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:21,700 and be with us and not say anything 537 00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:23,433 because what what is there to say, really? 538 00:24:23,433 --> 00:24:26,733 Words fall short and then we really wanted 539 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:29,733 people to just ask questions what he looked like. 540 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:33,700 And even now we love when anyone mentions his name. 541 00:24:33,866 --> 00:24:35,833 I am a mom of three. 542 00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:38,700 One, you know, is not here with us on Earth. 543 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,300 And then I have two babies 544 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:42,833 when we hold the ball and you mix it with nap time. 545 00:24:42,833 --> 00:24:46,800 My husband and I both realize that it is entirely up to 546 00:24:47,366 --> 00:24:50,133 the birthing person to advocate 547 00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:53,166 for themselves to find out how to have a living baby. 548 00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:55,233 So the next time we wanted to have a baby, 549 00:24:55,233 --> 00:24:57,133 we had to learn about count the kicks 550 00:24:57,133 --> 00:24:59,033 and making sure we were getting accurate kick 551 00:24:59,033 --> 00:25:00,300 counting measures. 552 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:02,000 We had to learn 553 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,766 what to ask for as far as different ultrasounds 554 00:25:04,766 --> 00:25:06,000 and non stress tests, 555 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,833 and many people don't know those things 556 00:25:07,833 --> 00:25:10,866 until something goes horribly wrong and they lose their baby. 557 00:25:11,633 --> 00:25:13,433 The longest nine months of my life, 558 00:25:14,566 --> 00:25:15,300 you know, after you've 559 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,733 been through a stillbirth, it sort of pulls the veil away 560 00:25:19,533 --> 00:25:22,000 a little bit and you realize 561 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,233 and nothing is guaranteed to anyone. 562 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,400 And anything can happen even if it's a less 563 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,766 than 1% of the time can happen. 564 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,133 And it was hard 565 00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:35,500 up until the day I was born 566 00:25:35,866 --> 00:25:38,133 to allow ourselves 567 00:25:39,366 --> 00:25:41,533 the possibility that he was going to make it. 568 00:25:41,533 --> 00:25:44,033 There's this whole when you're in you 569 00:25:44,533 --> 00:25:46,700 that you feel I can never be 570 00:25:47,833 --> 00:25:50,233 filled again because it's just 571 00:25:50,233 --> 00:25:52,633 sadness and grief for so long. 572 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,500 And when I comes, there's 573 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:59,366 it's not a replacement, but there's, 574 00:25:59,366 --> 00:26:02,366 there's space in you that that sort of gets filled again. 575 00:26:02,366 --> 00:26:04,100 You've been been in the valley 576 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,133 and now you're you're up up again. 577 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:11,566 Oh oh, now your star sigh is are sweet 578 00:26:11,566 --> 00:26:15,000 and happy rainbow baby who is just happy to be here 579 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,166 And we know we have a baby to hold 580 00:26:17,166 --> 00:26:19,166 and we know that life is short and to cherish 581 00:26:19,433 --> 00:26:22,266 every single moment we have with him and our daughter. 582 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,400 The Jaggers say that unlike many parents 583 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,466 who lose a child to stillbirth, they had an autopsy done 584 00:26:29,466 --> 00:26:31,600 to determine what caused Fox's death. 585 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,966 They found out he had an entire uterine growth restriction, 586 00:26:35,233 --> 00:26:37,933 which is preventable. 587 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,433 They add color and beauty to the great outdoors, 588 00:26:45,433 --> 00:26:48,133 and butterflies are more than just decorations. 589 00:26:48,133 --> 00:26:49,400 How a Frankford nursery 590 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 is teaching people about the role they play 591 00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:53,500 in the balance of Nature. 592 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,466 You'll see that and much more tomorrow 593 00:26:55,466 --> 00:26:59,200 night on Kentucky Edition at 630 Eastern, 530 Central, 594 00:26:59,366 --> 00:27:01,433 where we connect, inform and inspire. 595 00:27:01,666 --> 00:27:04,700 You can get to us all the ways you see on your screen 596 00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:05,833 through Facebook 597 00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:09,566 and Instagram and download our app on PBS video app. 598 00:27:09,566 --> 00:27:12,633 You can see our show there on your mobile device and smart TV 599 00:27:12,833 --> 00:27:16,733 and send us a story idea and public affairs act, dawg. 600 00:27:17,033 --> 00:27:18,366 Thank you so much for watching. 601 00:27:18,366 --> 00:27:19,700 I'm Rene Shore and I hope to see you 602 00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,500 right back here again tomorrow night. Take good care.