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>> David: A spy in the

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spotlight at senate

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confirmation hearings.

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Can Claudia Tenney hold on to

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her seat in Congress, and

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Eric Schneiderman resigns

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in disgrace.

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Stay tuned.

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"Ivory Tower" is next.

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>> Good evening.

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Welcome to "Ivory Tower."

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I'm David Chanatry from Utica

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college.

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I'm joined tonight by Lisa Dolak

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from the College of Law at

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Syracuse University, Bob Spitzer

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from SUNY Cortland,

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Tim Byrnes from Colgate

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university and Kristi Anderson

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from the Maxwell school at

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Syracuse University.

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Spies work in the shadows but

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yesterday Gina Haspel was in the

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spotlight at her confirmation

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hearings to be director of the

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CIA.

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Haspel appears to be uniquely

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suited to lead the agency except

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for her role running one of the

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black sites where detainees were

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water boarding and then

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destroying the tapes of the

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enhanced interrogations.

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She pledged not to restart the

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programs if confirmed and said

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she knows right from wrong.

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Lisa, should her role in that

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episode be disqualifying to run

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the CIA?

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I mean her role in that episode

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is very concerning I'm concerned

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about both things you mentioned,

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the role in the black site, the

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destruction of evidence pending

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investigation but I don't

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believe it should be

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disqualifying and I do think she

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is uniquely suited for the role

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and particularly for the time

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that we are in, including

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because of her expertise on

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things like Russia.

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She's an expert on Russian and

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Russian spies.

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And the fact that she is widely

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supported by employees and

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agents in the CIA and many

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former intelligence experts,

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including John Brennan, Obama's

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CIA chief and that's because of

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her qualifications for the job

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and because the concern is if

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not her, who might Donald Trump

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appoint to this post?

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And this is what I'm talking

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about being in unique times.

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I mean I think even if that

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weren't the case, honestly, if

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we weren't worried about who

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Donald Trump might appoint and

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given his, you know, tendency to

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pick people that are not

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qualified to politicize

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appointments, and his sort of

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antipathy toward intelligence

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services, even if we weren't

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worried about that, I still

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think I would support her

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because of her qualifications

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and because she said it wouldn't

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happen again under her... go she

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said she followed her moral

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compass and I don't have much

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confidence in her moral compass.

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The torture regime put in place

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by the Obama administration and

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not properly litigated by the

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Barack Obama is one of the

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darkest moments in American

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history and what we have now as

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Lisa is saying is a soft

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consensus like, well, you know,

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this is someone we want to have

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in charge of the CIA, which

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means that what happened before

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is sort of basically okay.

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And the fact of the matter is

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that Gina Haspel is a criminal

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and I came with notes today.

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This is the 1984 convention

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against torture signed by Ronald

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Reagan and confirmed by the

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United States that which makes

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it according to the United

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States constitution, the highest

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law in the land.

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Each state party should take

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effective legislative measures

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to prevent act of torture in any

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territory under this

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jurisdiction.

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No exceptional circumstances

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whatsoever may be invoked as

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justification of torture and

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order from a superior officer or

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public officer play not be the

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authority.

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If this is not enough, this is

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the U.S. criminal code of the

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U.S. government.

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Whoever attempted to commit

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torture should be imprisoned not

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more than 20 years.

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And a person who conspires to

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commit an offense should be

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subject to the same penalty.

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She is lucky she is not in a

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tribunal in the Hague.

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The fact that the United States

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senate is going to confirm her

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to head the CIA is a stain on

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American history.

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>> I thought the thing that she

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said which was most shocking and

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I have to say that I do have

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some sympathy for Lisa's

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position in the sense that she

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is a woman, she has come up

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through the ranks.

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She is not an appointee

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President Trump would make.

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When she was asked whether she

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thought water boarding or

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torture was wrong, she said I

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don't know if the word was wrong

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or moral, she would note answer

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that.

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She said I can't answer that.

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I think it was effective at

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getting people who were involved

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in 9/11 or whatever...

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>> She backed off the

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effectiveness line a little bit.

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>> She said I don't think we can

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say it is effective or not.

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She said we got information.

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I don't think it is knowable,

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she said.

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>> We got... I thought she was

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saying... the point is that she

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wasn't saying it was morally

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wrong.

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>> She was parsing the words.

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Harris pressed her on the

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morality.

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Let's be perfectly clear.

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Torture is appalling,

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counterproductive.

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It doesn't help you.

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That, to me is the bottom line.

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>> The bottom line is (all

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talking at once)

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>> It's a crime.

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>> No dispute.

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>> Putting criminals in

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charge...

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>> The problem is that the order

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came from the top.

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She was a functionary.

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It was chain dick Cheney who

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leaned on the CIA because they

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panicked after 2001.

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>> You can't say that a crime

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that you committed was ordered

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by a higher officer, that's a

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violation of international and

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national law.

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>> I accept all that but we have

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accepted and within the United

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States we have not done

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prosecutions as you pointed out,

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as a consequence of all this and

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it would have started right at

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the top.

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So here we are in 2018, and Lisa

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has it right.

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She has two things-- three

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things going for her.

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One is that she has been through

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this torture stuff and she-- my

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sense, for what it's worth, is

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that she understands that this

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is not useful, okay.

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Leaving law aside.

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Secondly, she does know the CIA.

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Third she knows Russia well.

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And that probably is arguably

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the most important thing at this

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juncture.

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And who would we get if she

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pulls out from trump?

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It's only going to be worse.

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Yes, she should be confirmed.

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I understand I agree 100% but

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it's a long trail that leads

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right back to dick Cheney and

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she wasn't an independent

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functionary who decided on her

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own one day she was going to

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torture.

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>> There was D.O.J. cover for

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that.

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>> John who sits at berk whether

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I law school said they wrote a

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memo in which he says torture is

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okay.

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That was awful.

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>> An order from a superior

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officer or public authority may

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not be invoked as justification

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of torture.

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When he said water boarding was

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not torture, that was nonsense.

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Gina Haspel knew that.

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She oversaw water boarding which

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is a crime.

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I keep saying the same thing.

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We can talk about her

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qualifications and the difficult

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moments we are in.

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She is a criminal and should be

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held accountable.

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>> There are dozens and dozens

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of criminal in that category.

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>> You would be saying that

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George W. Bush and dick Cheney

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should face...

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>> You are darned right they

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should.

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Sights a stain in American

07:52.338 --> 07:56.843 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80%
history and Barack Obama... it

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requires a government signatory

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investigates and, prosecutes

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crimes and Obama didn't do it.

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So Obama is guilty under this as

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well.

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It's an outrage what we have

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allowed to happen in this

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country.

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>> The best we can have because

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there will never be the

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prosecutions, never, never going

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to happen.

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The best we can do is remember

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the history and never damn do it

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again.

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>> It is worth pointing out that

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senator John McCain last night

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released a statement saying that

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her, Haspel's refusal to

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acknowledge torture's immorality

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is disqualifying.

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>> And there was a letter from

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100 retired military officers

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and officials saying they did

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not support her nomination

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because of the...

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>> Look, I commend him for his

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consistency on the issue and for

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his courage in speaking out.

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I'm a little less impressed with

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some of what I see as some of

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the grandstanding by some of the

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Democratic senators, because I

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think in some cases, you almost

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can hear them... it's almost

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like they know she is going to

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be confirmed and so it's easy

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for them to come out and express

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their outrage.

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And, you know, among the people

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who were complicit in this were

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some of the very people who were

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read in on this back in... at

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the time.

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>> Absolutely but they're not

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being put in charge of the CIA.

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>> I understand that.

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>> You think there are people

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still in the CIA who

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participated in that torture?

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>> Of course there are.

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>> She knew, bob, she knew that

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the faces of those CIA agents on

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tore torturing those people that

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it's a crime and if their faces

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were known they might be

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prosecuted internationally and

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nationally.

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She destroyed evidence.

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>> Yes, she did.

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(all talking at once)

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>> She wrote a memo for her

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boss...

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>> She was carrying out.

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>> And to the White House's

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surprise as well.

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They didn't know they were going

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to destroy the tapes.

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Now we do have to move on.

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So the 22nd congressional

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district that includes Utica,

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Binghamton and parts in between,

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Madison County, for instance, is

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thought to be one of the races

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that Democrats have targeted in

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this fall's mid term elections.

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The Republican incumbent

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representative Claudia Tenney

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has thrown quite a lot of red

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meat to the base and that has

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her party concerned she will

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lose the seat.

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Kristi, will her comments cost

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her, in a district that has

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generally been considered to be

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moderate, moderate-right?

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>> I think they may cost her and

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one evidence that they may be

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already is that there is a Zogby

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poll out who has her opponent,

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Anthony Brindisi leading her

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47-40.

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Even by a little bit more when

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the undecided were pushed to

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make or take a stand.

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And Brindisi, interestingly is

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continually emphasizing his

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willingness to work across the

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aisle.

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That he has done that in the

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Assembly and would do that for

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the good of the district and so

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on.

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Tenney has chosen, and I think

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she will stick with it... she

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seems very consistent around

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this, a kind of appeal to the

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base, fairly narrow base way of

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campaigning and being, really.

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It's interesting because I read

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somewhere in an article about

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her that a pew center poll had

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found that 19% of Republicans

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were really angry at the

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government.

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Now this is down from the number

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who are angry at the government

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under Obama but way up from

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those that are angry at the

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government the Obama

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administration say.

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Tenney and other Republicans

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have chosen to both support

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trump and support trump in this

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way, to kind of channel they

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motion of frustration and anger

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at the government.

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And she does this all the time.

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I mean the best example, which I

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was just amazed at is when she

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said this thing, which you

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probably all heard about the

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Democrats or mass murderers

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tending to be Democrats.

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She was criticized by the former

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holders of her seat, two

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Republicans and a democrat,

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bowler and Hannah and when she

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was confronted with their

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criticism, she referred to all

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three of them as swamp creatures

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raising their bloody hands out

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of their political grave.

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I mean that's only going to

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appeal to the 19% who is really

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angry at everybody, including

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their former members of

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Congress.

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It just seems like a not very

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strategic thing.

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>> She would certainly double

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down.

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>> That's exactly it.

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Doubling down.

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She issued a statement recently

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not just a generic statement but

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a very strong statement in

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support of trump's pulling out

12:52.138 --> 12:53.739 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80%
of the Iran nuclear deal.

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She is really a mini trump.

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It's not just that she is siding

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generally in a general way with

12:59.845 --> 13:00.946 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80%
Donald Trump and his agenda but

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she really mimics his rhetoric

13:03.649 --> 13:04.350 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80%
constantly.

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And historically that strategy

13:07.553 --> 13:08.954 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80%
has worked for her.

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She is in the House of

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Representatives.

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She was elected and reelected

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several times in the state

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Assembly being pretty hard right

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but there are a couple of things

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about the Zogby poll and where

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she stands right now.

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It is pretty unusual for a

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challenger to be up about I

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seven points over an incumbent

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and that does not bode well for

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her; however, there is one other

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thing about the poll that

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provides her with an opening and

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that's the fact that roughly

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half the people who were polled

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said they didn't know anything

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about Anthony Brindisi.

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He is a blind slate in the minds

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of a lot of voters and that

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provides her with an opportunity

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to define him in her terms in

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negative ways to try and drive

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down her numbers so that she,

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you know, might find a way to

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get...

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>> Brindisi is the state

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representative from the Utica

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area so much of the district

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never heard of him.

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>> She has called him a

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socialist and you remember when

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he first declared that he was

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running, she went after his

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father and got all the Italians

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in Utica all riled up.

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So she hasn't taken up that

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opportunity much yet, I don't

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think.

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You are right...

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>> I think you are right.

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She hasn't but that's is her one

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opening.

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>> When she is challenged about

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her outrageousness or

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trumpiness.

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She said I know my district.

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I know my people is what she

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says.

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Polls be damned.

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>> But she may well.

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It is interesting the contrast

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between her and someone like

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Katko...

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>> Or Richard Hannah.

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>> Richard Hannah who was her

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predecessor.

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But I mean I'm talking about

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their presence or tactics to

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deal with trump and to find a

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path forward in districts that

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are, you know, somewhat similar.

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They're both...

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>> Katko's is more Democratic.

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>> When we talked about her two

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years ago, I said, I remember

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saying well I can see how she

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could get elected because she is

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so aggressive and that race was

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so odd, running against a woman

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from Binghamton people didn't

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know.

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>> And it was...

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>> I said at the time, I said I

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can't see how she will get

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reelected because that district,

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she may know the district but I

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think she makes stuff up.

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When she said she knows the

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district better, that means she

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talked to her family.

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She is completely full of

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nonsense but it got her elected

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once but I will be very

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surprised if she gets reelected

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because this red meat Hillary

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Clinton should go to jail, mass

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murderers are Democrats, et

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cetera, etc., I don't see that

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playing well in a district that

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has a long history of, yes, it's

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Republican in terms of

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identification, but it's

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Republican in the sense of real,

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if there are any moderate

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Republicans left, the kind who

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elected boller and hannah.

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>> It's a two candidate race.

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She won with 46% of the vote two

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years ago.

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She has got to get over 50%, she

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has to appeal to a greater

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degree to moderates, undecided

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because in this district there

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is a hard core that loves

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everything she has to say when

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she is sounding like trump but

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I don't think that puts you over

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50% even in this district.

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>> I would say the people of

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Hamilton, New York are well

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motivated to get her out of

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office so she doesn't continue

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to stain the name of Colgate

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university.

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>> Six months is a long time.

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>> It is.

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>> That's right.

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And the district did vote for

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President Trump pretty

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substantially.

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>> Unlike Katko's.

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>> Now, New York, New York State

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and to an extent national

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politics were up ended this week

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with the stunning accusations of

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assault against now former state

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Attorney General Eric

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Schneiderman.

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He resigned his position hours

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after the New Yorkers published

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the allegations.

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The state legislature will

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appoint an interim Attorney

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General possibly as soon as next

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week.

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There has been some reporting

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that this has been kind of an

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open secret that Schneiderman

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had sort of a shady personal

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life and that liberals are being

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hypocrites for looking the other

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way.

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Bob Spitzer, that got your

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attention.

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>> Well, it did.

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And that criticism doesn't come

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as a surprise.

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First Schneiderman was a

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complete shock, I think he was

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to most people.

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Secondly particularly in the

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light of how aggressively he has

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advanced the idea of legislation

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or other legal protections to

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women who do come forward to

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talk about being harassed and

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accosted and everything else.

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But we look at the recent

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history of these kinds of

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scandals and how Democrats

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versus Republicans have

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responded.

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So he... so Schneiderman

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resigned within three hours of

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the story coming out that

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appeared in the New Yorker, a

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shocking story by the way, if

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you can get through it.

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Remember Eliot Spitzer, no

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relation.

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He was gone-- he was governor,

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he was a relation but suddenly

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he wasn't... Eliot Spitzer

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resigned within a day.

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Al Franken out in Minnesota was

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gone within a few days.

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And those allegations were not

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quite as clear cut, I think but

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look at primary Republicans,

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David vitter, the Republican

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senator from Louisiana, he hung

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on, he stayed on.

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The current governor of

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Maryland, a Republican governor

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Eric greitens.

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>> Missouri.

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>> Thank you.

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He is adamantly denying

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everything and Republican state

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legislature is moving ahead with

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impeachment.

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That's how bad they want him

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out.

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Rory Moore, Doug Blankenship--

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Don Blankenship killed 29 miner

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running coal mines in

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West Virginia, but a different

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kind of scandal but people died

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because of his lousy stewardship

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of his own coal mine.

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Those people pursuing higher

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office are all hanging on.

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My joke was to a friend of mine

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that if Schneiderman had been a

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Republican, he would have used

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the opportunity of announcing

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his resignation to announce his

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run for the U.S. Senate if he

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had been a Republican.

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Maybe the partisan split I'm

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describing isn't really there

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but if you look at the cases, it

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makes me wonder why and I don't

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really have a good answer.

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I just want to wonder why.

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>> Schneiderman is the pinnacle

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of hypocrisy, for hip to be, you

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know, pushing this, saying he is

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going to, you know, prosecute or

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look into what the Weinstein

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mess and champion of women and

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the fact that he was the state's

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chief law enforcement officer.

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That puts you in a different

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position.

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I'm not, you know, sort of okay

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with all of that litany of

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people that you listed but the

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people who hold themselves out

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and take the job of being the

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chief law enforcement officer,

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I'm sorry, that puts you in a

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different class.

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>> Not just enforcing the law

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but creating new laws.

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He was instrumental in this law

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that said choking was, you

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know... and he was doing it.

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>> While he was doing it.

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>> Incredible.

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>> It is just jaw dropping.

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Really depressing.

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The hypocrisy of it that this

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litany of misbehavior is so

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common among powerful men.

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It's depressing.

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I say that as a person

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interested in politics.

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I say that as a man.

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I say that as a human being.

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The hypocrisy and cruelty of it

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is shocking and horrible.

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>> I can't get into their heads.

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Someone like him who was being

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actively hypocritical.

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Elliot spitzer, that doesn't

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seem so bad.

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>> Hooker, big deal.

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>> And didn't Schneiderman, and

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I think about all these other

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guys, you know, Matt Lauer and

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all these other guys, didn't

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they think it would catch up

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with them?

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They must have been suffering,

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not that I care but.

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>> You wonder.

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>> Katy said on her show what is

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it about New York State politics

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and the commentator sitting next

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to her talked about the lawless

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culture of male entitlement.

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>> In Albany specifically.

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>> Now that leads us directly to

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the fs.

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Lisa.

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>> Kind of staying on the same

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subject.

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Town and country gets my f for

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inviting Monica Lewinsky to the

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summit and then when Bill

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Clinton said he would attend,

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disinvited Lewinsky.

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Even in the me too era, town and

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country and too many other

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people still don't get that Bill

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Clinton abused his power and

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privilege and took advantage of

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a 24-year-old intern and has yet

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to pay the price.

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>> Okay.

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>> I'm giving an f to George

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Mason university and the koch

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brothers.

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They have been funding faculty

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positions at various

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universities for many years but

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we learned last week actually

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that, in fact, they had been

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exerting undue influence with

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the okay of the leaders of

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George Mason university in

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Virginia, to actually shape and

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manipulate who was accepted and

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hired for various faculty

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positions.

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It's completely wrong.

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It violates a fundamental

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boundary line about who gets to

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work as a faculty members in

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various departments, especially

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economics departments.

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It's a terrible abuse of money

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and power.

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>> Tim.

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>> I never thought I would say

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this all these years later.

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An f to Oliver north, the new

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president of the national rifle

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association who said this week

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about the Iranian deal, never

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believe an Iranian because if

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their lips are moving, they're

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lying.

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I mean what a ridiculous thing

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to say about millions of people

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but especially by Oliver north

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who illegally sold arms to Iran

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and criminally lied about it.

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Do these people ever go away?

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>> An f to nick Mulvaney current

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head of the consumer financial

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protection bureau who is working

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basically to kill his agency.

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Since coming into office he has

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halted all new investigations,

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frozen hiring, stopped data

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collection, cut off access to a

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consumer complaint.

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Payday lenders, Mulvaney has

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dropped most of the cases

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against these people.

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>> And the as Lisa.

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>> My a to the Trump

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Administration for securing the

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release of three prisoners who

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had been held by North Korea.

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It's hard to imagine the joy

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that those people, their

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families and friends are

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experiencing.

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>> I'm giving an a to the fact

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that Don blank inship--

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blankenship, the former owner of

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an avaricious mining company

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came in third after poll results

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indicated otherwise for the

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Republican primary in the U.S.

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Senate.

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Third is a lot better than

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first.

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>> Tim.

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>> An a to five moderate G.O.P.

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house members who have issued a

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motion to dismiss to force Paul

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Ryan to get a vote on docket to

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the floor of the house.

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They're not really moderates.

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They serve in purple districts

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worried about reelection but

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they're getting close to forcing

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Paul Ryan to bring a DACA vote

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to the house.

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It will be a small chink in the

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Hastert rule and I hope they

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succeed.

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>> Teacher appreciation week.

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So an a to all teachers,

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especially those who protest

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their declining wages and the

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horribly insufficient funding

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for education in their state.

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They have been successful and we

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should be appreciative to all of

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them for standing up for quality

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education.

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>> I want to thank you a

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question, Tim because I think

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last week I had to give a little

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sideline.

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We need another one.

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The vote on DACA that you are

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saying they are trying to force

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Paul Ryan to hold the vote house

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does it work?

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>> If they get a market in the

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House of Representatives.

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They can force the vote.

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The Hastert is he won't bring a

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vote to the floor unless a

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majority of Republicans are

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supporting it.

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This is a small group of

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Republicans trying to vote with

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Democrats to force a vote and

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they will all vote to codify

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DACA and Ryan will lose.

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>> And perhaps the Hastert rule

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will...

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>> I doubt it but we can hope.

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>> Will go away?

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>> If they get 20 Republicans,

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then the discharge petition

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forces that on to the house

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despite what the leader...

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>> U.S. governance would be

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dramatically different if the

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House of Representatives

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operated by majority rule.

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>> Thank you and thanks for

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joining us.

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