>> DAVID: NEO-NAZIS AND A

PRESIDENT UNDER FIRE;

THE FEDS WANT TO KNOW WHO

PROTESTED AT THE INAUGURATION,

AND A POSSIBLE I-81 COMPROMISE.

STAY TUNED.

"IVORY TOWER" IS NEXT.

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>> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO

"IVORY TOWER."

I'M DAVID CHANATRY FROM UTICA

COLLEGE.

I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY LISA DOLAK

FROM THE SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY

COLLEGE OF LAW, KRISTI ANDERSON

FROM THE MAXWELL SCHOOL AT

SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY; TIM BYRNES

FROM COLGATE UNIVERSITY AND TARA

ROSS FROM ONONDAGA COMMUNITY

COLLEGE.

THIS HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT WEEK

FOR THE COUNTRY AFTER THE DEADLY

RALLY IN CHARLOTTESVILLE,

VIRGINIA.

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN

CRITICIZED ACROSS THE POLITICAL

SPECTRUM FOR HIS BOTH SIDES

COMMENTS, C.A.T. MONUMENTS HAVE

BEEN YANKED DOWN.

AND QUESTIONS ARE BEING RAISED

ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT

PROTECTIONS IN THE FACE OF

SOMEONE ASSERTING THEIR SECOND

AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

WHERE DOES THIS ALL LEAD?

IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE

IRRECONCILABLE CAMPS.

HOW STABLE IS THE COUNTRY?

>> I THINK WE HAVE A STABLE

COUNTRY.

I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOME

DISCUSSION AROUND THE SUBJECT OF

WHETHER WE WERE POISED FOR THE

NEXT CIVIL WAR AND IT STEMMED

FROM AN ARTICLE IN THE

NEW YORKER WRITTEN BY ROBYN

WRIGHT.

I THINK THE ARTICLE WAS, IN SOME

RESPECTS, IRRESPONSIBLE IN TERMS

OF THE POSITION IT OUTLINED.

I DON'T IN ANY WAY MEAN TO

UNDERSTATE THE SIGNIFICANCE AND

SERIOUSNESS AROUND THE VIOLENCE

WE'VE SEEN AND THE POTENTIAL FOR

MORE OF IT AND THE HATE AND

EVERYTHING THERE, ESPECIALLY

WHEN WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS

DEFENDING AS SO CALLED GOOD

PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE

SPEWING RACIAL HATE AND WHITE

NATIONALISM AND WHITE

SUPREMACIST SENTIMENTS AND

THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR

INSTITUTIONS WILL GO A LONG WAY

TO KEEPING THIS A STABLE COUNTRY

AND I THINK IN PARTICULAR THE

MEDIA HAS AN OBLIGATION TO BE

VERY RESPONSIBLE WITH REGARD TO,

YOU KNOW, COVERING AND FOCUSING

ON WHAT IS GOING ON, BUT NOT

OVERSTATING THE NUMBER OF

PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO ARE

INVOLVED IN STOKING THIS KIND OF

HATE AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THESE KIND OF

SENTIMENTS AROUND WE ARE POISED

FOR THE NEXT CIVIL WAR.

I THINK WE MAY BE POISED FOR THE

KINDS OF VIOLENT SKIRMISHES WE

SAW IN THE FIFTH, 60s, 70S,

THINGS LIKE THAT BUT NOTHING

THAT WOULD RESEMBLE THE LAST

CIVIL WAR.

>> I THINK IN FAIRNESS THAT

ARTICLE WAS SUGGESTING THAT

CIVIL WAR SOMETHING MORE

ALONG...

>> THEN YOU DON'T USE THAT TERM,

CIVIL WAR, OKAY.

I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF MY

CRITICISM OF THE ARTICLE.

TWO THINGS THE ARTICLE SAID THAT

WERE IMPORTANT TO ME AND THAT IS

THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A RISK

WHEN SO MANY MEMBERS OF THE

PUBLIC HAVE SO LITTLE CONFIDENCE

AND FAITH IN OUR INSTITUTIONS

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE

REALLY SEEN A SIGNIFICANT

DECLINE IN.

>> AND WE HAVE SEEN A

SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN PART

BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENTS OF

LEADERS AND ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT'S SO IMPORTANT HERE IS TO

THINK ABOUT HOW POLITICAL

LEADERS AND OTHER LEADERS, TOO,

CULTURAL AND SO ON, HAVE AN

IMPACT ON THIS.

I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT PLACES

THAT DID HAVE REAL CIVIL WARS,

YOU KNOW, THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA

OR RWANDA, GENOCIDE AND STUFF,

IT WASN'T THAT... THERE

CERTAINLY WERE ETHNIC AND OTHER

DIFFERENCES, RELIGIOUS

DIFFERENCES THAT WERE DEEPLY

EMBEDDED, BUT THEY DIDN'T

PRODUCE THE CONFLICTS BY

THEMSELVES.

THERE WERE ENTREPRENEURIAL

POLITICAL LEADERS WHO FOSTERED

THAT AND BROUGHT THAT OUT AND

THAT'S WHAT IS SO SCARY, I

THINK, ABOUT TRUMP.

>> FROM A PEACEFUL MULTIETHNIC

SOCIETY TO... I DON'T THINK WE

ARE HEADED TOWARDS GETTYSBURG

AND APPOMATTOX BUT A TAKE A

SCARIER VIEW THAN LISA.

WHITE SUPREMACY IS A FRINGE

ELEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES AND

IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT

WHITE RESENTMENT ISN'T.

WHITE RESENTMENT IS AT THE VERY

HEART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

HAS BEEN THERE SINCE BARRY

GOLDWATER IN OPPOSITION OF THE

CIVIL RIGHTS ACT, NIXON, RONALD

REAGAN STARTING HIS CAMPAIGN IN

PHILADELPHIA AND MISSISSIPPI.

WILLY HORTON.

THIS IS A MAJOR PART OF THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY'S CULTURE AND

COALITION IS THIS IDEA THAT

WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING

MARGINALIZED AND MISTREATED IN

OUR SOCIETY AND THEN YOU HAVE A

PRESIDENT WHO IS AN OPEN

APOLOGIST FOR THIS SORT OF THING

TRYING TO SAY THE VIOLENCE IS

COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND

WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WHITE

SUPREMACISTS AND NAZIS, THEY'RE

SEEKING VIOLENT CONFLICTS.

THAT'S WHY HERE IN

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND WHY THEY'RE

GOING TO BE AT TEXAS TECH.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

THEN YOU HAVE ELEMENTS TO

COUNTERPROTEST THEM AND YOU HAVE

THE CLASHES, THE PRESIDENT SAYS

THERE IS VIOLENCE ON THE LEFT,

THE COMMIE TERRORISTS, THAT'S

WHAT THE NEO-NAZIS SAY.

THEN PEOPLE HAVE TO CHOOSE SIDES

AND YOU HAVE THE WHITE

RESENTMENT TURNS INTO APOLOGY

FOR NAZIISM.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS HEADED

BUT IT IS HEADED IN A VERY BAD

PLACE VERY FAST AND WE NEED TO

HAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN ITS

SORT OF INSTITUTIONAL FORM SAY

THIS IS WRONG.

WE REJECT THIS AND THE PRESIDENT

OF THE UNITED STATES, WHO NOT

ONLY IS AN APOLOGIST FOR NAZIS

BUT IN YESTERDAY HIS TWEETS

ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL HERITAGE AND

CULTURE OF THE SOUTH NEEDS TO BE

PRESERVED IN PARKS, THIS IS, TO

ME, QUITE... I'M TRYING TO LIMIT

MY ADJECTIVES SO I'M NOT FEEDING

INTO WHAT LISA IS SAYING BUT I

THINK IT'S VERY DANGEROUS

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE

ASKED TO CHOOSE SIDES BETWEEN

WHITE RESENTMENT AND LEFT WING

TERRORISM.

>> AND WHAT IS GETTING LOST IN

ALL OF THIS FOCUS ON THE

MONUMENTS AND THE PROTESTS IS

WHAT THAT WHITE RESENTMENT IS

ALL ABOUT AND THAT GETS BACK TO

THE WHOLE ISSUE OF STABILITY AND

WHETHER OR NOT AMERICA IS A

STABLE COUNTRY.

AND HOW WE DEFINE THAT STABILITY

BECAUSE REALLY WHEN MOST PEOPLE

TALK ABOUT OUR STABLE COUNTRY,

WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS

ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND THAT'S

WHERE THE WHITE RESENTMENT COMES

IN IS THIS FEELING THAT THEY'RE

LOSING SOMETHING THEY HAD A

RIGHT TO ALL THE ALL ALONG AND

THE REASON THEY'RE LOSING THE

ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IS BECAUSE

OF OTHER PEOPLE.

WE ARE LOSING OUR POWER, NOT

ONLY OUR PROSPERITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOCKED

ME THIS WEEK WAS FOX INTERVIEWED

A BURCH OF CONSERVATIVES IN THE

SOUTH.

SOME LOCAL LEADERS BUT SOME JUST

ORDINARY PEOPLE AND THEY HAD A

VARIETY OF VIEWS BUT ONE OF THE

THINGS THAT STRUCK ME AND

SURPRISED ME WAS HOW MANY OF

THEM OUR COUNTRY IS VERY

DIFFICULT DIVIDED AND IT'S

BARACK OBAMA'S FAULT.

HE DID THIS.

HE DID THIS JUST BY BEING

HIMSELF, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT

REALLY DID IT WAS ALL THE

REPUBLICANS AND PEOPLE ON THE

OTHER SIDE WHO SAID HE IS

DIVISIVE.

FRAMED THAT WAY BY THEIR

LEADERS.

>> VIEWERS ARE GOING TO GET

TIRED OF HEARING ME SAY THIS BUT

HISTORY WILL NOT BE AT ALL

CONFUSED ABOUT THIS.

WE HAD AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN

PRESIDENT FOLLOWED BY THE

FOUNDER AND SPOKESMAN OF THE

MOVEMENT AND THIS IS RACIAL

RESENTMENT WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN

PARTY AND VERY DEEP BUT BEFORE

WE MOVE ON I WANT TO POINT OUT

THAT BLUNT VIOLENT ANTI-SEMITISM

REALLY SHOCKING.

PEOPLE MARCHING AROUND

CHARLOTTESVILLE VIRGINIA

CHANTING VIEW JEWS WILL NOT

REPLACE US AND THE PRESIDENT OF

THE UNITED STATES SAYING THERE

WERE VERY FINE PEOPLE IN THAT

MARCH.

THAT IS AN UNBELIEVABLE THING TO

SAY AND HE SAID IT WHILE THEY

STOOD RIGHT NEXT TO HIM AND NOW

WE HEAR GARY COHEN IS APPALLED

BY THAT.

LET'S SEE WHAT HE DOES BY THAT.

AND IVANKA IS ON VACATION IN

VERMONT.

>> THEY MANAGED A FEW WELL TIMED

VACATIONS.

YOU MENTIONED THE MONUMENT ISSUE

AND THERE ARE SEVERAL WHICH ARE

NOW, MANY WHEN-- MANY WHICH

PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE DOWN.

POTENTIAL FLASH POINTS AT EVERY

ONE OF THEM.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> AND THE PRESIDENT IS ON THE

SIDE OF THE PEOPLE WHO THINK

THAT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PART OF

OUR HISTORY THAT NEEDS TO BE

PRESERVED.

IT'S REALLY UNBELIEVABLE.

WE'VE GOTTEN SO USED TO

OUTRAGEOUS THINGS COMING FROM

THE WHITE HOUSE THAT YOU LOOK ON

TWITTER AND YOU SEE THE

PRESIDENT SAYS THIS IS OUR

BEAUTIFUL CULTURE IN HISTORY

THAT MUST BE PRESERVED.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES SAID THAT.

NOT SOME MAYOR IN A SMALL TOWN

IN KENTUCKY.

THIS IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES.

>> I FOUND VERY INTERESTING THAT

A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE

FAMILIES OF ROBERT E. LEE AND

SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHOSE

STATUES ARE BEING TORN DOWN HAVE

COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF BRINGING

THEM DOWN.

>> IN PART ROBERT E. LEE

HIMSELF, WHEN HE WAS APPROACHED

AFTER THE WAR ABOUT PUTTING UP

STATUES OF HIMSELF APPARENTLY

WROTE YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT.

WE NEED TO HEAL THE WOUNDS.

IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD

NOT PUT UP STATUES OF C.A.T.

GENERALS BASICALLY.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO UNITE A

COUNTRY WHICH I THOUGHT WAS

INTERESTING.

>> THAT WAS DURING THE

RECONSTRUCTION PERIOD AND THEN

THAT ENDED.

NOW THERE WAS ANOTHER VIOLENT

PROTEST BACK IN JANUARY AT

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S INAUGURATION.

NOW FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE

ISSUED A SEARCH WARRANT TO THE

COMPANY WHICH HOSTED THE WEBSITE

USED TO PLAN THE PROTEST.

THEY WANT DATA ON PEOPLE WHO

VISITED THE SITE, CIVIL

LIBERTARIANS AND TECH COMPANIES

ARE CRYING FOUL AND THE COMPANY

IS RESISTING AND A COURT HEARING

IS SCHEDULED FOR TODAY.

THIS IS TOO WIDE A NET PERHAPS

TO CAST?

>> I'M A CIVIL LIBERTARIAN

CRYING FOUL.

YOU ARE ASKING FOR 1.3 MILLION

PEOPLE WHO VISITED THE SITE.

IF I'M SITTING AT MY OFFICE AT

COLGATE UNIVERSITY AND THINKING

PEOPLE ARE PLANNING A PROTEST,

LET'S SEE WHAT THIS IS ABOUT AND

I CLICK ON IT, THEN JEFF

SESSIONS GETS MY I.P. ADDRESS TO

SEE WHAT I'M DOING?

WE HAVE GIVEN UP SO MUCH PRIVACY

BECAUSE WE LIVE OUR LIVES ONLINE

AND I HAVE KIND OF COME TO TERMS

WITH THAT.

I BUY THINGS ON AMAZON.

I USE THE INTERNET EVERY DAY.

I COMMUNICATE WITH MY FRIENDS

AND LOVED ONES BY EMAIL AND

TEXT.

BUT JUST BY CLICKING ON A SITE

TO FIND OUT ABOUT A POLITICAL

EVENT THEN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

GETS ELECTRONIC DATA ON ME?

THAT REALLY STRIKES ME AS...

THAT'S NOT A SLIPPERY SLOPE,

THAT'S DOWN THE END OF THE

SLOPE.

>> IT ALSO SEEMS WASTEFUL

INEFFICIENT AND NOT A GOOD WAY

TO PURSUE THIS.

THESE PEOPLE WENT TO THE

INAUGURATION WITH THE INTENTION

OF CAUSING DISRUPTION AND

SMASHING WINDOWS AND SO ON AND

THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT, I THINK,

ON THE WEBSITE.

BUT AND 200 PEOPLE WERE

IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED SO THERE

WAS A BIG POLICE PRESENCE OF THE

CAPITOL POLICE.

200 PEOPLE ARRESTED, A NUMBER OF

THEM WERE DISMISSED.

THE CHARGES WERE DISMISSED BUT

THEY'VE GOT EVIDENCE ABOUT A

LOOT OF PEOPLE-- A LOT OF PEOPLE

INJURING FOLKS OR DOING PROPERTY

DAMAGE.

PURSUE THOSE THINGS.

PROSECUTE THOSE PEOPLE.

WHY DO THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND

FIND OUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE

JUST BEEN SITTING IN THEIR

OFFICES IN COLGATE OR MAYBE

SHOWED UP BUT NO EVIDENCE THAT

THEY DID ANYTHING.

WHY DO THEY NEED THIS?

>> I'M WITH YOU ON THIS.

THE MERE FACT AND THERE MAY BE

OTHER PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED

THE WRONGFUL ACTS, RIGHT?

BUT IT'S NOT... IS THIS REALLY

THE PRIORITY OF THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT?

THERE IS NOTHING MORE PRESSING

FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO

UNDERTAKE?

I HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE

YESTERDAY.

I WAS IN MY OFFICE THINKING

ABOUT THE SHOW AND I WAS

THINKING ABOUT A MEDIA REPORT I

HEARD THIS WEEK I HAVEN'T BEEN

ABLE TO TRACK DOWN.

I WAS IN MY CAR AND I HEARD

THERE WAS A PEACEFUL, YOU KNOW,

RIGHT WING PROTEST A MONTH OR SO

AGO AND MEMBER OF THIS LEFT WING

GROUP SHOWED UP AND THIS IS WHAT

WAS SAID ON THE SHOW, SET UPON

THESE PEACEFUL PROTESTORS AND

THE POINT THAT WAS MADE AT THE

TIME WAS THAT THE MEDIA HADN'T

COVERED THAT.

I WAS TRYING TO TRACK THAT DOWN

AND I STARTED TO TYPE IN AND I

STOPPED NOT BECAUSE OF THE

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT BUT EVERYBODY

IS WATCHING, MY EMPLOYERS, I

MEAN WHO NODES.

BUT AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO DO

ACADEMIC RESEARCH.

>> THE POINT IS TO INTIMIDATE

AND LIMIT THE DEGREE TO WHICH

PEOPLE CAN ORGANIZE ONLINE.

THAT'S THE POINT OF IT.

>> YOUR EXPERIENCE WHAT IS WE

NEED TO FEAR IS THAT RIGHT NOW

IT'S A PROTEST AT THE

INAUGURATION.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE NEXT?

WHAT TYPE OF PROTEST ARE THEY

GOING TO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT,

WHAT TYPE OF PROTESTORS ARE THEY

GOING TO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT AND

HOW FAR DOES IT GO?

DOES IT GO FROM THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT TO THE STATE'S

ATTORNEY GENERAL WANTING SIMILAR

TYPES OF INFORMATION ABOUT

SOMETHING THAT OCCURS ON THE

STATE LEVEL.

WHERE DOES THIS STOP?

THAT'S MY BIG FEAR ASIDE FROM,

OF COURSE, THE VIOLATION OF

PRIVACY, ET CETERA.

WHERE DOES THIS STOP ONCE YOU GO

DOWN THAT ROAD?

>> THAT COULD STOP TODAY IN A

COURTROOM, RIGHT?

>> YEAH, THAT'S ONE MORE THING

WE HAVE TO SAY HERE.

PROSECUTORS, IT'S NOT SURPRISING

WHEN THEY ASK FOR TOO MUCH.

IT'S NOT SURPRISING WHEN ANY

LAWYER ASKS FOR TOO MUCH BUT IT

WAS A SUPERIOR COURT JUDGE THAT

ISSUED THE WARRANT.

THERE IS GOING TO BE A HEARING

TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO

LAY THE BLAME, TOO, ON THE

JUDGE.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT COMPUTER

WARRANTS ARE A LITTLE BIT

DIFFERENT FROM WARRANTS THAT ARE

ISSUED OFF THE COMPUTER AND

THERE IS THIS SORT OF TRADITION

IN WHICH A NUMBER OF FEDERAL

MAGISTRATE JUDGES AND OTHERS

HAVE PUSHED BACK AGAINST OF SORT

OF THIS TWO-STEP WARRANT WHERE

YOU GIVE EVERYTHING, THEY ASK

FOR EVERYTHING AND THEY GO

THROUGH IT AND THEY ACT ON WHAT

IS ACTUALLY ACTIONABLE,

SUPPOSEDLY BUT IT'S VERY SCARY

THE NOTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

JUSTICE.

>> I HAPPEN TO HEAR SOMEONE FROM

THE COMPANY, THE WEB HOSTER ON

THE RADIO SAYING THEY GET ABOUT

400 REQUESTS A YEAR LIKE THIS,

MAYBE NOT THIS BROAD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE COMPANY

IS.

MAYBE THAT'S NORMAL BUT IT

SEEMED LIKE AN AWFUL LOT TO ME.

CLOSER TO HOME, THE MUCH

ANTICIPATED STUDY EVALUATING THE

OPTIONS FOR DEALING WITH THE

CRUMBLING I-81 INTERSTATE

THROUGH THE HEART OF SYRACUSE

IS, THE STUDY IS SUPPOSED TO BE

RELEASED THIS SUMMER, NOT MUCH

TIME LEFT IN THE SUMMER.

STATE SENATOR JOHN DeFRANCISCO

AND ASSEMBLYMAN MAGNARELLI

PROPOSED A HYBRID OF THE TUNNEL

AND GRID OPTIONS FOR THE

ROADWAY.

SO TARA, DOES THIS COMBINATION

SEEM TO MAKE ANY SENSE FROM YOUR

POINT OF VIEW?

>> IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU THINK

ABOUT IT FROM THE FACT THAT IN

THAT WAY VARIOUS PARTS OF THE

COMMUNITY ARE SORT OF SHARING

THE PAIN AND I THINK THAT'S

REALLY WHAT THE COMPROMISE IS

ABOUT IS VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF

COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF

THE BIG ISSUES HAS BEEN ALL

ALONG THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO

THE THOROUGHFARE, BUSINESSES ARE

GOING TO BE REMOVED AND WILL

HAVE TO FIND NEW PLACES OF

BUSINESS, IT WILL IMPACT CERTAIN

NEIGHBORHOODS.

IF YOU SHIFT EVERYTHING TO A

PATH THAT GOES AROUND THE CITY,

IT SHIFTS THE IMPACT OF THE

TRAVEL AND MORE, EXCUSE ME

SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES WILL SUFFER

MORE.

SO THIS SORT OF PROPOSAL MAKES

VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY

SHARE THE PAIN SO TO SPEAK.

BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T RESOLVE

THE PROBLEM IN THAT A WE ARE

STILL MOVING WAY TOO SLOW ON

DOING WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO

DO WITH 81.

IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A

DECISION.

AND B: WHICH EVER WAY YOU GO,

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC

SHIFT AND IF YOU WANT TO BUILD

BUSINESS IN SYRACUSE, THAT

TRAFFIC SHIFT AT SOME POINT IS

GOING TO INCLUDE INCREASED

TRAFFIC SO IT REALLY DOESN'T

SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

>> THE OTHER THING IS THAT, WELL

TWO POINTS I WOULD MAKE.

ONE IS THAT A LOT OF THE

OPPOSITION IN THIS NEW STUDY

THAT CLAIMS THAT THE D.O.T. IS

WRONG AND SO ON IS ALL ON THE

PART OF PEOPLE, THE DESTINY

FOLKS AND PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.

AND YOU KNOW, THEIR POSITION HAS

ALWAYS STRUCK ME BASED ON THE

ASSUMPTION THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST

DRIVING PAST ON 81 AND SUDDENLY

SAY OH THERE IS A MALL, I'LL

STOP IN.

THAT'S NOT HOW IT HAPPENED.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE DESTINY

IS.

IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE, YOU GO

THERE.

THE SECOND RELATED POINT, I DUG

AROUND TO FIND THE TRAFFIC

ESTIMATES THAT I THINK COME

THROUGH THE D.O.T. OR COMMUTING

TIME ESTIMATES AND BASICALLY SO

THEY DID IT FROM, YOU KNOW,

CICERO TO DOWNTOWN, FROM

BALDWINSVILLE TO DESTINY, I

THINK INNER CITY DESTINATIONS

DOWNTOWN ST. JOE'S AND DESTINY

AND VARIOUS SUBURBS.

AND THEY DID IT IN PEAK HOURS

AND OTHER TIMES.

THERE IS BASICALLY NO

DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO

MINUTES DIFFERENCE IN TIMES.

MAYBE 24 INSTEAD OF 23 MINUTES

OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO

TRAFFIC... WE HAVE VERY FEW

TRAFFIC PROBLEMS HERE.

YOU CAN GET EVERY PLACE EASILY.

THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE MUCH

IF THERE ARE ALL THESE OPTIONS

IN THE COMMUNITY GRID.

PEOPLE GET PLACES IN CLEVER

WAYS.

AND THE IDEA THAT THIS IS JUST

GOING TO GET RID OF BUSINESS,

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOING TO

BUSINESSES ON THE NORTH SIDE OR

ANYWHERE ELSE OR MAKE IT, YOU

KNOW, INTOLERABLY DIFFICULT FOR

PEOPLE TO COMMUTE IS WRONG I

THINK.

THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF OTHER

ARGUMENTS FOR TAKING DOWN THIS

TERRIBLE STRUCTURE IN THE MIDDLE

OF THE CITY, INCLUDING HOW

SUCCESSFUL THESE GETTING RID OF

THESE OVERHEAD HIGHWAYS HAVE

BEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND IN

SATISFY AND MILWAUKEE AND

PORTLAND.

>> I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF

TAKING IT DOWN.

A TUNNEL AND GRID COMBINATION

MIGHT BE BEST WAY TO GET TO IT

AT THE END, I DON'T KNOW BUT

HERE WE HAVE POLITICIANS I DON'T

TRUST, ESPECIALLY SENATOR

DeFRANCISCO USING A STUDY I

DON'T TRUST PUT TOGETHER BY

PEOPLE WHO HAVE ECONOMIC

INTERESTS WHICH APPARENTLY COST

FOUR GRAND DONE IN SOMEBODY'S

HOUSE OVER THE WEEKEND.

I DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUS AT

ALL.

I'M WAITING FOR THE REPORT.

I AGREE WITH TARA IT SHOULDN'T

TAKE THIS LONG BUT WHEN THE

REPORT COMES, YOU WEIGH THE

COST, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT,

WEIGH THE CULTURAL ADVANTAGES OF

THE VARIOUS PROPOSALS AND MAKE A

DECISION THROUGH A DEMOCRATIC

PROCESS BUT I DO NOT TRUST THIS

STUDY AND THESE POLITICIANS ONE

TINY BIT.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA

WHETHER A SIMILAR PROCESS OR

PROJECT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE

WORLD HAS BEEN STUDIED FOR SO

LONG OR TAKEN SO LONG?

IS THIS UNUSUAL?

IT SEEMS VERY UNUSUAL TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW.

>> I MEAN MILWAUKEE MIGHT BE THE

ONE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THEY DID

TAKE SOMETIME TO THINK ABOUT

THIS.

BUT IT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE, AND

THIS IS PROBABLY OVERLY

GENERALIZED STATEMENT THAT

PLANNERS AND PEOPLE WHO CARE

ABOUT SUSTAINABLE WALKABLE

BIKABLE CITIES ARE ALL ON THE

SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY GRID.

I MEAN THAT THIS IS THE FUTURE.

>> OKAY.

NOW LET'S GET OUT THE GRADE

BOOK.

SCHOOL IS ABOUT TO START.

LISA.

>> MASON MICHIGAN HOMEOWNER

JAMES FREIGHTER GETS AN F TRYING

TO SELL HIS HOUSE BUT HE GETS AN

F BECAUSE NEXT TO HIS FOR SALE

BY OWNER SALE HE HAS ANOTHER

SIGN THAT SAYS TERMS, NO

FOREIGNERS.

IRAQ VET.

ASIDE FROM THE HATEFUL ASPECT OF

THIS, THIS IS CONCERNING BECAUSE

AS THE MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF

CIVIL RIGHTS HAS RECOGNIZED THIS

MAY ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO THINK

THIS IS OKAY TO PUT THESE KINDS

OF SIGNS ON YOUR LAWN AND

THANKFULLY THE DEPARTMENT OF

CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE FILED A

COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM.

>> KRISTI.

>> AN F TO DONALD TRUMP FOR EVEN

THINKING ABOUT PARDONING SHERIFF

JOSEPH ARPIO OF PHOENIX.

IT WOULD TAKE A WHILE TO LIST

THE OFFENSES.

IN 2011 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

SAID HIS DEPUTIES HAD ENGAGED IN

THE WORST PATTERNS OF RACIAL

PROFILING THEY HAD EVER

INVESTIGATED, A FEDERAL JUDGE

FOUND HE WAS SPENDING SO MUCH

TIME HARASSING LATINOS HIS

DEPARTMENT WAS IGNORING ACTUAL

CRIME.

COURTS HAVE FOUND HIS JAILS

UNCONSTITUTIONALLY INHUMANE.

HOWEVER THE PRESIDENT CALLED HIM

A GREAT AMERICAN PATRIOT WHO HAS

DONE A LOT IN THE FIGHT AGAINST

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

>> TIM.

>> IN THE REALM OF PETTY TRUMP

FAMILY CORRUPTION WE ARE HAPPY

TO READ THIS WEEK A LOT OF

ORGANIZATIONS ARE PULLING OUT OF

THEIR MAR LAGO HOMES.

BUT NOT GORSUCH WHO HAS AGREED

TO GIVE A SPEECH AT THE TRUMP

INTERNATIONAL HOTEL AT A

CONFERENCE WHENNER PEOPLE WILL

PAY TO ATTEND.

THIS IS AT THE SAME TIME THE

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL BE

GOING FOR THE APPEARING IN FRONT

OF THE SUPREME COURT.

GORSUCH THINKS IT IS OKAY TO

MAKE MONEY FOR THE PRESIDENT

WHILE ASSESSING THE PRESIDENT'S

CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS.

THAT'S A HUGE F FOR JUSTICE

GORSUCH.

>> MY F TO THE U.S. HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES FOR PASSING

LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD ALLOW

HUNTERS IN ALASKA TO KILL BLACK

BEARS AND THEIR MOTHERS IN THEIR

DENS.

THIS IS OVERTURNING A FAIR CHASE

RULE THAT WAS PUT INTO EXISTENCE

BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION

AND THIS ALL BASICALLY MAKES IT

EASIER TO KILL BLACK BEAR

MOTHERS WHO ARE ESPECIALLY KNOWN

FOR THEIR VOLATILITY WHEN THEIR

CUBS ARE BEING HARMED.

>> MY F GOES TO ESPN FOR TRYING

TO BE CLEVER AND INSTEAD JUST

BEING REALLY DUMP OR REALLY TONE

DEAF MOST LIKELY BOTH.

THE NETWORK HELD A FANTASY

FOOTBALL AUCTION COMPLETE WITH

FAST TALKING AUCTIONEER IN WHICH

THE FANTASY LEAGUE OWNERS MOST

WHITE BID ON THE PLAYERS MOST

BLACK.

IT HAD ALL THE OPTICS OF A SLAVE

AUCTION.

IT WAS BAD TIMING THAT THE

SEGMENT RAN THIS WEEK OF ALL

WEEKS BUT STILL WHAT WERE THEY

THINKING?

A'S.

>> TO A GROUP OF TEENAGERS IN

BOSTON WHO DISCOVERED THE GARDEN

AGREED TO HOST THREE FUNDRAISERS

TO BEN BENEFIT THE STATE'S

RECREATION TO CONSTRUCT THE NEW

FACILITY.

AS A RESULT THE GARDEN HAS

AGREED TO PAY 1.6 TRILLION TO

THE DEPARTMENT.

THE TEENS SAY THAT THREE

FUNDRAISERS A YEAR OVER ALL

THOSE YEARS ADDS UP TO MORE THAN

$12 MILLION MORE THAN THAT AND

THEY VOW TO KEEP FIGHTING BUT

KUDOS TO THEM AND I HOPE IT

IMPORTANT TENDS A LIFE LONG

COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY ACTION

AND DEMANDING ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> AN A TO ALL THE WOMEN WHO IN

PART THANKS TO DONALD TRUMP'S

ELECTION ARE PLANNING TO RUN FOR

OFFICE.

EMILY'S LIST THAT ENCOURAGES AND

SUPPORTS PROGRESSIVE WOMEN

CANDIDATES REPORTED THAT

INQUIRIES FOR WOMEN RUNNING FOR

OFFICE ON THE LOCAL OR STATE OR

NATIONAL LEVEL HAVE GONE FROM

900 DURING THIS STAGE OF THE

2016 ELECTION CYCLE TO 11,000

THIS YEAR.

>> AN A TO THE NEWS THIS WEEK.

THE FIRST LEGAL VICTORY FOR

VICTIMS OF THE OUTLAW U.S.

TORTURE REGIME.

TWO VICTIM AND A THIRD MAN

REACHED A SETTLEMENT WITH THE

TWO DISREPUTABLE PSYCHIATRISTS

THAT LED THE PROGRAM THAT LED TO

HUMILIATION, EXTREME PAIN AND

ONE DEATH.

IT IS NOT THE CRIMINAL REMEDY WE

REQUIRE BUT IT'S A START.

>> MY A GOES TO BRENT WARFIELD

OF UNITED MOTORCYCLE ENTHUSIAST

AND NUMEROUS INDIANA BIKERS WHO

JOINED TOGETHER TO ESCORT AN

11-YEAR-OLD PHIL MICK TO SCHOOL.

HE HAS BEEN BULLIED IN SCHOOL

BEFORE AND THEY DECIDED THEY

WOULD TAKE HIM TO HIS FIRST DAY

OF CLASSES.

SO AN A TO ALL OF THEM.

>> NOW MY A, A BIT OF A THEME

THIS WEEK, TO NEW YORK GIANTS

LINE BACKER DEVYN KINARD STARTED

AN ONLINE READING CLUB FOR

SCHOOL AGE KIDS A PASSIONATE

READER HIMSELF, HE CHOSE THE

BOOKS TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD AND

ALCHEMIST, REREAD THEM ALONG

WITH THE GROUP, ASKED PRETTY

SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO START AN

ONLINE DISCUSSION AND RESPONDED

TO ALL THE KIDS COMMENTS.

HE TOLD "THE NEW YORK TIMES"

KIDS NEED TO READ TO LEARN AND

GAIN PERSPECTIVE RATHER THAN

DOING MINDLESS THINGS, SOMETHING

I WISH SOME FAMILY MEMBERS OF

MINE MIGHT PAY ATTENTION TO.

SO HE IS ON MY FAVORITE TEAM AND

NOW MY NEW FAVORITE PLAYER.

ALL THE TEXTING AND INSTAGRAM

THAT, ANYWAY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LETTERS I

JUST WANT TO MENTION QUICKLY.

WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM RICH

HELMS FROM CLEVELAND, OHIO, GLAD

THAT RICH IS WATCHING AND HE

COMMENTED ON THE TABLE SAW

DISCUSSION LAST WEEK SAID THAT

THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF ANY

NEW SAFETY DEVICE MUST BE

WEIGHED AGAINST THE COST AND IN

THIS PARTICULAR CASE THE COST IS

HIGH.

WE ARE TOLD BY HOWIE RHINE IT IS

$200 IN THAT CASE TO HAVE A SAFE

TABLE SAW AND MICHAEL McCABE

JUST WROTE IN QUICKLY AND SAID

WITH SOME ADVICE SAID DRINK ONLY

THE GOOD STUFF BECAUSE WE CAN'T

BE SURE WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS

GOING TO DO WITH REGARDS TO THE

KID IN NORTH KOREA.

WITH THAT IT'S TIME TO CLOSE.

WRITE US WITH YOUR COMMENTS OR

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FOR ALL OF US, THANKS FOR

WATCHING AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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