WEBVTT 00:07.173 --> 00:08.539 align:start >> BANNING TRANS STUDENTS FROM 00:08.542 --> 00:10.575 align:start SPORTS. 00:10.578 --> 00:12.109 align:start ABSENTEE MAIL-IN VOTING 00:12.112 --> 00:12.643 align:start RESTRICTED. 00:12.646 --> 00:14.379 align:start PLUS, CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL 00:14.382 --> 00:15.246 align:start CURRICULUM BILL AND MORE ON 00:15.249 --> 00:21.252 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE 00:21.255 --> 00:23.587 align:start WEEK ENDING JANUARY 28, 2022. 00:23.590 --> 00:25.689 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 00:25.692 --> 00:28.793 align:start MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 00:28.796 --> 00:30.561 align:start OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 00:30.564 --> 00:31.763 align:start STATIONS. 00:31.766 --> 00:32.763 align:start >> THIS WEEK, PROTESTS ERUPTED 00:32.766 --> 00:33.364 align:start IN THE INDIANA HOUSE CHAMBER 00:33.367 --> 00:35.700 align:start FOLLOWING A COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL 00:35.703 --> 00:36.366 align:start OF A BILL RESTRICTING 00:36.369 --> 00:38.903 align:start TRANSGENDER GIRLS' ACCESS TO 00:38.906 --> 00:39.503 align:start SCHOOL SPORTS. THE VOTE CAME 00:39.506 --> 00:40.738 align:start AFTER HOURS OF TESTIMONY FROM 00:40.741 --> 00:42.940 align:start HOOSIERS WHO MOSTLY OPPOSE THE 00:42.943 --> 00:44.775 align:start MEASURE. 00:44.778 --> 00:47.611 align:start >> THE LEGISLATION WOULD 00:47.614 --> 00:48.746 align:start PROHIBIT TRANSGENDER GIRLS FROM 00:48.749 --> 00:49.480 align:start JOINING GIRLS SCHOOL SPORTS 00:49.483 --> 00:50.981 align:start TEAMS. REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE 00:50.984 --> 00:52.383 align:start MICHELLE DAVIS IS ITS AUTHOR. 00:52.386 --> 00:53.684 align:start >> REP. MICHELLE DAVIS 00:53.687 --> 00:56.620 align:start (R-WHITELAND): THE PURPOSE OF 00:56.623 --> 00:57.221 align:start THIS BILL IS TO MAINTAIN FAIR 00:57.224 --> 00:57.755 align:start COMPETITION IN GIRLS SPORTS. 00:57.758 --> 01:00.791 align:start >> BUT MANY PEOPLE OPPOSED TO 01:00.794 --> 01:02.226 align:start THE BILL SAY IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO 01:02.229 --> 01:02.860 align:start DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AN 01:02.863 --> 01:04.762 align:start ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE GROUP OF 01:04.765 --> 01:05.296 align:start CHILDREN. CHRIS PAULSEN FROM 01:05.299 --> 01:08.299 align:start INDIANA YOUTH GROUP JOINED 01:08.302 --> 01:08.832 align:start SEVERAL OTHERS WHO POINTED OUT 01:08.835 --> 01:09.400 align:start THE MENTAL HEALTH RISKS 01:09.403 --> 01:11.769 align:start TRANSGENDER YOUTH FACE, 01:11.772 --> 01:12.770 align:start ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR IDENTITY 01:12.773 --> 01:15.239 align:start IS TARGETED BY POLITICIANS. 01:15.242 --> 01:16.073 align:start >> CHRIS PAULSEN: THE TREVOR 01:16.076 --> 01:20.077 align:start PROJECT'S 2021 SURVEY OF NEARLY 01:20.080 --> 01:21.779 align:start 35 THOUSAND YOUTH AGES 13 TO 24 01:21.782 --> 01:24.782 align:start SHOW THAT MORE THAN 50 PERCENT 01:24.785 --> 01:27.185 align:start OF TRANSGENDER YOUTH HAVE 01:27.188 --> 01:28.653 align:start SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED SUICIDE IN 01:28.656 --> 01:29.019 align:start THE PAST YEAR. 01:29.022 --> 01:29.653 align:start >> THE BILL 01:29.656 --> 01:31.722 align:start PASSED THE FULL HOUSE THURSDAY. 01:31.725 --> 01:31.989 align:start WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS BILL 01:31.992 --> 01:36.727 align:start SOLVING? 01:36.730 --> 01:39.230 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 01:39.233 --> 01:40.231 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANE.L 01:40.234 --> 01:40.698 align:start DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY. 01:40.701 --> 01:43.367 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 01:43.370 --> 01:44.735 align:start JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 01:44.738 --> 01:45.469 align:start LAWMAKERS, AND NIKI KELLY, 01:45.472 --> 01:46.003 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE FORT 01:46.006 --> 01:48.739 align:start WAYNE JOURNAL GAZETTE. 01:48.742 --> 01:49.940 align:start I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 01:49.943 --> 01:50.141 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 01:50.144 --> 01:52.776 align:start SMITH. 01:52.779 --> 01:53.944 align:start ANN DELANEY, DOESN'T THE IHSAA 01:53.947 --> 01:57.781 align:start ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE 01:57.784 --> 01:58.883 align:start TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE? 01:58.886 --> 02:00.451 align:start DO THEY NOT? 02:00.454 --> 02:01.952 align:start >> THEY DO. 02:01.955 --> 02:02.487 align:start IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESS, AS A 02:02.490 --> 02:04.354 align:start MATTER OF FACT. 02:04.357 --> 02:06.857 align:start THIS ISN'T ABOUT FAIRNESS, IT'S 02:06.860 --> 02:08.025 align:start ABOUT HATRED. 02:08.028 --> 02:10.094 align:start I THINK REPRESENTATIVE TONYA 02:10.097 --> 02:12.630 align:start PFAFF SAID IT VERY WELL. 02:12.633 --> 02:12.830 align:start IT'S A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A 02:12.833 --> 02:15.166 align:start PROBLEM. 02:15.169 --> 02:15.733 align:start THEY COULDN'T EVEN POINT TO 02:15.736 --> 02:16.767 align:start SOMEONE DEFINITIVELY WHO FIT 02:16.770 --> 02:21.806 align:start INTO THIS CATEGORY. 02:21.809 --> 02:23.774 align:start AND THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE 02:23.777 --> 02:26.243 align:start HUNDREDS OF TEENAGE BOYS LINING 02:26.246 --> 02:27.244 align:start UP TO GET SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, 02:27.247 --> 02:29.980 align:start AND THE TRAUMA THAT THAT 02:29.983 --> 02:32.116 align:start CHANGE -- THE CHANGES THAT THAT 02:32.119 --> 02:33.651 align:start MEANS TO THEIR LIVES GOING 02:33.654 --> 02:35.352 align:start FORWARD, ALL TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL 02:35.355 --> 02:37.888 align:start BASKETBALL IS RIDICULOUS. 02:37.891 --> 02:41.058 align:start I MEAN, SHE IS SINGLING OUT 02:41.061 --> 02:42.426 align:start PEOPLE JUST TO SHOW THAT SHE IS, 02:42.429 --> 02:43.661 align:start AGAIN, FAR TO THE RIGHT, WHICH 02:43.664 --> 02:44.595 align:start IS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS 02:44.598 --> 02:47.198 align:start ON THIS. 02:47.201 --> 02:49.500 align:start AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE UNANIMOUS 02:49.503 --> 02:50.234 align:start ON OPPOSING THIS AS THEY SHOULD 02:50.237 --> 02:51.435 align:start BE. 02:51.438 --> 02:52.737 align:start BECAUSE IT DOES DISCRIMINATE. 02:52.740 --> 02:53.804 align:start AND BY THE WAY, IT ONLY 02:53.807 --> 02:55.506 align:start DISCRIMINATES ONE WAY, IT 02:55.509 --> 02:56.607 align:start DISCRIMINATES AGAINST BOYS WHO 02:56.610 --> 02:57.975 align:start HAVE THE SEX CHANGE OPERATION 02:57.978 --> 03:00.611 align:start BECOME GIRLS. 03:00.614 --> 03:01.913 align:start WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER? 03:01.916 --> 03:02.980 align:start THAT DOES OCCUR. 03:02.983 --> 03:05.983 align:start ARE WE GOING TO SAY IT IS OKAY 03:05.986 --> 03:08.252 align:start FOR THEM TO PLAY, OR ARE THEY 03:08.255 --> 03:09.853 align:start SAYING WOMEN AREN'T VERY GOOD AT 03:09.856 --> 03:12.590 align:start SPORTS ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T 03:12.593 --> 03:13.824 align:start MATTER IN THAT CONTEXT. 03:13.827 --> 03:16.561 align:start THE WHOLE BILL IS RIDICULOUS. 03:16.564 --> 03:17.628 align:start ALL IT DOES IS STIR UP THE 03:17.631 --> 03:19.763 align:start REPUBLICAN BASE TO HATE ANOTHER 03:19.766 --> 03:21.899 align:start GROUP OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE THEIR 03:21.902 --> 03:23.634 align:start PROBLEMS, AND HAVE THEIR 03:23.637 --> 03:25.569 align:start ADVERSITY TO FACE ON THEIR OWN 03:25.572 --> 03:27.104 align:start WITHOUT THIS ADDITIONAL BURDEN. 03:27.107 --> 03:28.139 align:start >> MIKE O'BRIEN, FAIRNESS AND 03:28.142 --> 03:32.109 align:start COMPETITION IS WHAT WE HEARD 03:32.112 --> 03:32.443 align:start FROM THE PROPONENTS OF THIS 03:32.446 --> 03:34.178 align:start BILL. 03:34.181 --> 03:36.847 align:start ARE YOU BUYING THAT? 03:36.850 --> 03:38.916 align:start >> FIRST, I DON'T THINK THIS IS 03:38.919 --> 03:41.685 align:start DRIVEN BY HATRED AT ALL. 03:41.688 --> 03:42.787 align:start I THINK IT IS DRIVEN BY 03:42.790 --> 03:44.521 align:start MISUNDERSTANDING, FEAR, CONCERN 03:44.524 --> 03:44.788 align:start FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME 03:44.791 --> 03:48.392 align:start SCHOOLS. 03:48.395 --> 03:49.660 align:start AND THE POLITICS OF THIS, ANN'S 03:49.663 --> 03:51.395 align:start WRONG, THIS ISN'T FAR RIGHT. 03:51.398 --> 03:55.466 align:start WHAT IS DRIVING THIS ARE 03:55.469 --> 03:58.135 align:start COMMUNITIES THAT ARE 03:58.138 --> 03:59.803 align:start TRADITIONALLY MODERATE, DRIVING 03:59.806 --> 04:02.206 align:start A LOT OF THE CONCERN HERE WHERE 04:02.209 --> 04:03.140 align:start YOU HAVE A VERY VOCAL 04:03.143 --> 04:05.176 align:start TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. 04:05.179 --> 04:07.311 align:start I THINK IF YOU WENT TO PLACES 04:07.314 --> 04:08.379 align:start THAT WE BELIEVE ARE 04:08.382 --> 04:14.051 align:start TRANSITIONING FROM A REPUBLICAN 04:14.054 --> 04:16.754 align:start TO A DEMOCRAT AREA, MAYBE PURPLE 04:16.757 --> 04:20.157 align:start AREAS, THE -- THEY WERE MAYBE, I 04:20.160 --> 04:22.993 align:start THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE 04:22.996 --> 04:24.762 align:start POLITICAL DIAGRAM OF THESE 04:24.765 --> 04:26.196 align:start PEOPLE, FOR GAY MARRIAGE AND 04:26.199 --> 04:27.431 align:start AGAINST TRANSGENDER ATHLETES. 04:27.434 --> 04:28.299 align:start IS THIS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF 04:28.302 --> 04:29.867 align:start A PROBLEM? 04:29.870 --> 04:30.768 align:start THERE IS NO EXAMPLES OF THIS 04:30.771 --> 04:32.770 align:start HERE. 04:32.773 --> 04:34.438 align:start I DO THINK REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS 04:34.441 --> 04:37.308 align:start IS CORRECT THAT WE'RE HEADING 04:37.311 --> 04:38.942 align:start THAT DIRECTION WHERE THIS IS 04:38.945 --> 04:41.879 align:start GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. 04:41.882 --> 04:42.079 align:start AGAIN, ANN, I STRUGGLE WITH 04:42.082 --> 04:48.286 align:start THIS. 04:48.289 --> 04:50.187 align:start I WAS WAY OUT IN FRONT ON THE 04:50.190 --> 04:51.688 align:start GAY MARRIAGE ISSUE, WORKED WITH 04:51.691 --> 04:54.291 align:start CHRIS PAULSEN IF YOU LOOK AT 04:54.294 --> 04:55.326 align:start PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT 04:55.329 --> 04:57.227 align:start HATEFUL, VERY REASONABLE AND 04:57.230 --> 04:58.796 align:start LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND SAY I 04:58.799 --> 05:00.765 align:start JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT YET. 05:00.768 --> 05:02.733 align:start >> YOU THINK THAT'S THE 05:02.736 --> 05:05.035 align:start MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR A SEX 05:05.038 --> 05:05.770 align:start CHANGE OPERATION, TO PLAY 05:05.773 --> 05:07.405 align:start SPORTS? 05:07.408 --> 05:09.206 align:start >> I THINK IF -- IT'S HARD 05:09.209 --> 05:10.207 align:start ENOUGH TO BE A TEENAGER, IF 05:10.210 --> 05:10.540 align:start YO'RE TRANSGENDER IT IS 05:10.543 --> 05:15.012 align:start IMPOSSIBLE. 05:15.015 --> 05:17.548 align:start IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH 05:17.551 --> 05:20.251 align:start THAT PROCESS, IT'S -- THAT'S A 05:20.254 --> 05:20.851 align:start MONUMENTAL THING IN YOUR LIFE, I 05:20.854 --> 05:21.952 align:start DON'T THINK PLAYING MEN'S 05:21.955 --> 05:22.319 align:start BASKETBALL IS THE NEXT THING ON 05:22.322 --> 05:23.854 align:start YOUR LIST. 05:23.857 --> 05:25.089 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, AS WE'VE HEARD 05:25.092 --> 05:26.957 align:start NOW, DEBATE IN THE COMMITTEE, 05:26.960 --> 05:28.325 align:start AND THEN ON THE FLOOR, ARE 05:28.328 --> 05:31.328 align:start REPUBLICANS WHO ARE PUSHING THIS 05:31.331 --> 05:33.163 align:start BILL DOING A GOOD JOB TO 05:33.166 --> 05:35.065 align:start INDICATING THIS IS -- THESE ARE 05:35.068 --> 05:35.265 align:start THE EXACT REASONS WHY WE NEED 05:35.268 --> 05:37.435 align:start IT? 05:37.438 --> 05:38.569 align:start >> WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE 05:38.572 --> 05:42.873 align:start FOCUSING ON ONE THING ONLY, 05:42.876 --> 05:45.242 align:start WHICH IS THEY'RE SAYING THERE IS 05:45.245 --> 05:48.112 align:start UNFAIR PERFORMANCE EDGES. 05:48.115 --> 05:50.114 align:start THAT SOMEONE WHO IS BORN A MALE, 05:50.117 --> 05:51.515 align:start HAS BETTER LUNG CAPACITY, 05:51.518 --> 05:52.416 align:start TALLER, MORE MUSCLE MASS, THINGS 05:52.419 --> 05:54.518 align:start LIKE THAT. 05:54.521 --> 05:55.419 align:start THEY'RE FOCUSING ON SORT OF THE 05:55.422 --> 05:58.856 align:start ADVANTAGES THAT THAT WOULD GIVE 05:58.859 --> 06:00.591 align:start IF THEY WOULD THEN TRANSITION TO 06:00.594 --> 06:01.959 align:start A FEMALE SPORT. 06:01.962 --> 06:03.761 align:start THE FASCINATING PART ABOUT MOST 06:03.764 --> 06:06.397 align:start OF IT, THERE ARE EXAMPLES OUT 06:06.400 --> 06:08.766 align:start THERE THAT CAUSE ISSUES, BUT 06:08.769 --> 06:09.800 align:start MOSTLY IN COLLEGIATE SPORTS, THE 06:09.803 --> 06:11.736 align:start BILL ORIGINALLY COVERED COLLEGE 06:11.739 --> 06:13.704 align:start SPORTS, THEY TOOK IT OUT WITHOUT 06:13.707 --> 06:16.774 align:start A WORD OF EXPLANATION. 06:16.777 --> 06:18.342 align:start I THINK WE CAN ALL SURMISE THAT 06:18.345 --> 06:20.344 align:start THE NCAA WAS PROBABLY NOT A FAN 06:20.347 --> 06:21.044 align:start OF IT. 06:21.047 --> 06:23.847 align:start THAT'S THE ARENA WHERE WE'RE 06:23.850 --> 06:26.417 align:start SEEING SOME OF THESE ISSUES 06:26.420 --> 06:28.819 align:start HAPPEN MORE THAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. 06:28.822 --> 06:30.287 align:start AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. 06:30.290 --> 06:30.488 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES -- WE'VE 06:30.491 --> 06:32.556 align:start SEEN -- 06:32.559 --> 06:34.758 align:start >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE IS 06:34.761 --> 06:34.992 align:start NOTHING FAIR, I'M SORRY, GO 06:34.995 --> 06:36.427 align:start AHEAD. 06:36.430 --> 06:39.296 align:start >> WE'VE SEEN OTHER BILLS LIKE 06:39.299 --> 06:41.298 align:start THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, SOME A 06:41.301 --> 06:42.800 align:start LOT STRICTER THAN THIS ONE. 06:42.803 --> 06:44.000 align:start A LOT OF THOSE BILLS HAVE 06:44.003 --> 06:47.171 align:start RECEIVED A LOT MORE NATIONAL 06:47.174 --> 06:48.772 align:start ATTENTION THAN I FEEL LIKE 06:48.775 --> 06:50.707 align:start INDIANA'S BILL IS GETTING. 06:50.710 --> 06:52.109 align:start NOT SAYING IT IS GETTING NO 06:52.112 --> 06:53.844 align:start ATTENTION, BUT CERTAINLY NOT ON 06:53.847 --> 06:57.948 align:start THE SCALE OF OTHER STATES. 06:57.951 --> 06:59.049 align:start WHY IS THIS ONE SORT OF FLYING 06:59.052 --> 07:00.784 align:start UNDER THE RADAR? 07:00.787 --> 07:02.653 align:start >> I THINK IF INDIANA HAD BEEN 07:02.656 --> 07:05.189 align:start THE FIRST STATE TO ADDRESS THIS 07:05.192 --> 07:06.623 align:start IN A LEGISLATIVE FASHION OR AT 07:06.626 --> 07:08.192 align:start LEAST THROUGH A PROPOSED 07:08.195 --> 07:10.060 align:start LEGISLATION, IT PROBABLY WOULD 07:10.063 --> 07:10.994 align:start HAVE BEEN A PROMINENT NATIONAL 07:10.997 --> 07:13.864 align:start STORY. 07:13.867 --> 07:15.032 align:start YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET IN 07:15.035 --> 07:16.433 align:start DISCUSSIONS OF WHY VARIOUS 07:16.436 --> 07:18.068 align:start EDITORIAL DECISIONS ARE MADE AND 07:18.071 --> 07:20.471 align:start WHAT CONSTITUTES NEWS. 07:20.474 --> 07:22.372 align:start AS EACH STATE WRESTLES WITH 07:22.375 --> 07:23.407 align:start THIS, IT PROBABLY BECOMES -- I'M 07:23.410 --> 07:24.775 align:start NOT SAYING IT IS ANY LESS 07:24.778 --> 07:27.211 align:start SIGNIFICANT TO THE PEOPLE 07:27.214 --> 07:29.947 align:start AFFECTED BY THE POTENTIAL LAW, 07:29.950 --> 07:32.316 align:start BUT IN TERMS OF IT BEING A 07:32.319 --> 07:34.351 align:start NATIONAL NEWS STORY, IT STARTS 07:34.354 --> 07:36.420 align:start TO DIMINISH A BIT. 07:36.423 --> 07:38.355 align:start AND I THINK IT'S MORE -- IF YOU 07:38.358 --> 07:40.023 align:start LOOK AT IT NARROWLY ABOUT THE 07:40.026 --> 07:43.694 align:start COVERAGE IT RECEIVED, IT IS MORE 07:43.697 --> 07:46.129 align:start ABOUT THAT PROBABLY THAN 07:46.132 --> 07:48.432 align:start ANYTHING MORE NUANCED ABOUT THE 07:48.435 --> 07:49.800 align:start FINE POINTS OF THE BILL HERE ARE 07:49.803 --> 07:51.969 align:start HOW IT'S BEING DEBATED. 07:51.972 --> 07:53.704 align:start >> I WANT TO JUST MAKE ONE 07:53.707 --> 07:55.205 align:start POINT, THERE IS NOTHING FAIR 07:55.208 --> 07:57.241 align:start ABOUT SPORTS RIGHT NOW. 07:57.244 --> 07:58.809 align:start IF YOUR PARENTS HAVE THE MONEY, 07:58.812 --> 08:00.678 align:start THEY PUT YOU ON A TRAVELING TEAM 08:00.681 --> 08:04.181 align:start AND TAKE YOU PLACES, PAY FOR 08:04.184 --> 08:05.616 align:start SUMMER CAMPS, YOU HAVE A 08:05.619 --> 08:07.518 align:start TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE OVER KIDS 08:07.521 --> 08:07.851 align:start WHOSE PARENTS DON'T HAVE THOSE 08:07.854 --> 08:08.485 align:start RESOURCES. 08:08.488 --> 08:10.254 align:start NOBODY IS WORRIED ABOUT THE 08:10.257 --> 08:11.922 align:start FAIRNESS OF THAT PART OF IT, 08:11.925 --> 08:12.189 align:start WHICH I FIND REALLY KIND OF 08:12.192 --> 08:14.024 align:start IRONIC 08:14.027 --> 08:15.659 align:start >> I AM SURPRISED THAT ANN MADE 08:15.662 --> 08:18.529 align:start THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE 08:18.532 --> 08:20.731 align:start BILL IS CRAFTED SO IT DEALS ONLY 08:20.734 --> 08:22.299 align:start WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ARE 08:22.302 --> 08:24.735 align:start BORN GENETICALLY BORN AS MALES, 08:24.738 --> 08:27.137 align:start AND ARE TRANSITIONING TO FEMALE. 08:27.140 --> 08:29.874 align:start IT DOES SEEM THAT IF IN FACT 08:29.877 --> 08:32.610 align:start THIS IS ALL ABOUT FAIRNESS, ONE 08:32.613 --> 08:33.911 align:start COULD ARGUE THAT THE BILL SHOULD 08:33.914 --> 08:38.982 align:start BE BROADENED, AT LEAST THE 08:38.985 --> 08:40.517 align:start LANGUAGE, TO SAY IF YOU'RE 08:40.520 --> 08:41.718 align:start COMPETING OUTSIDE THE SPORT 08:41.721 --> 08:41.886 align:start CLASSIFICATION IN WHICH YOU WERE 08:41.889 --> 08:44.755 align:start BORN. 08:44.758 --> 08:46.490 align:start I CAN SEE PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS 08:46.493 --> 08:50.094 align:start PICKING -- NARROWLY DEFINING THE 08:50.097 --> 08:50.227 align:start LAW IN A WAY IT SHOULDN'T BE. 08:50.230 --> 08:50.828 align:start >> 08:50.831 --> 08:51.295 align:start TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 08:51.298 --> 08:51.895 align:start EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 08:51.898 --> 08:52.830 align:start UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 08:52.833 --> 08:55.366 align:start QUESTION. 08:55.369 --> 08:56.767 align:start THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: 08:56.770 --> 08:57.400 align:start SHOULD TRANSGENDER STUDENTS BE 08:57.403 --> 08:59.403 align:start BANNED FROM PARTICIPATING IN 08:59.406 --> 09:02.372 align:start GIRLS' HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS? 09:02.375 --> 09:02.839 align:start A, YES, OR B, NO. 09:02.842 --> 09:03.373 align:start LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: 09:03.376 --> 09:04.775 align:start WILL THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 09:04.778 --> 09:08.512 align:start ELIMINATE INDIANA'S LICENSE 09:08.515 --> 09:08.779 align:start REQUIREMENT TO CARRY A HANDGUN 09:08.782 --> 09:11.515 align:start THIS YEAR? 09:11.518 --> 09:13.717 align:start THIS ONE WAS CLOSER THAN I WAS 09:13.720 --> 09:15.653 align:start EXPECTING, 44% YES, 56 NO. 09:15.656 --> 09:17.654 align:start I SUGGEST THE CHANCES ARE A LOT 09:17.657 --> 09:19.656 align:start HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT WE'LL FIND 09:19.659 --> 09:20.724 align:start OUT IN THE COMING WEEKS. 09:20.727 --> 09:22.025 align:start IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 09:22.028 --> 09:27.230 align:start IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 09:27.233 --> 09:28.165 align:start AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 09:28.168 --> 09:31.368 align:start CHANGES TO AN ELECTIONS BILL IN 09:31.371 --> 09:32.769 align:start A HOUSE COMMITTEE THIS WEEK WILL 09:32.772 --> 09:35.272 align:start MAKE IT HARDER FOR HOOSIERS TO 09:35.275 --> 09:36.674 align:start VOTE ABSENTEE BY MAIL. 09:36.677 --> 09:37.908 align:start >> THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE 09:37.911 --> 09:39.276 align:start APPROVED LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, IF 09:39.279 --> 09:40.777 align:start YOU WANT TO VOTE ABSENTEE BY 09:40.780 --> 09:43.080 align:start MAIL, YOU MUST ATTEST THAT YOU 09:43.083 --> 09:44.715 align:start WON'T BE AVAILABLE ON ELECTION 09:44.718 --> 09:45.349 align:start DAY OR - AND THIS IS THE NEW 09:45.352 --> 09:48.785 align:start PART - ANY TIME IN THE 28 DAYS 09:48.788 --> 09:50.487 align:start BEFORE THE ELECTION, WHEN EARLY 09:50.490 --> 09:51.588 align:start VOTING IS AVAILABLE. 09:51.591 --> 09:52.789 align:start REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE TIM 09:52.792 --> 09:53.490 align:start WESCO. 09:53.493 --> 09:56.126 align:start >> REP. TIM WESCO (R-OSCEOLA): I 09:56.129 --> 09:56.760 align:start BELIEVE THE BEST POLICY IS TO 09:56.763 --> 09:58.462 align:start ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE IN 09:58.465 --> 09:59.430 align:start PERSON, WHETHER ON ELECTION DAY 09:59.433 --> 09:59.697 align:start OR IN PERSON EARLY, AS MUCH AS 09:59.700 --> 10:00.897 align:start POSSIBLE. 10:00.900 --> 10:03.233 align:start >> DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE ED 10:03.236 --> 10:04.768 align:start DELANEY SAYS THAT PUTS A GREATER 10:04.771 --> 10:06.503 align:start BURDEN ON VOTERS, PARTICULARLY 10:06.506 --> 10:07.103 align:start IN COUNTIES WITH FEW EARLY 10:07.106 --> 10:07.738 align:start VOTING LOCATIONS. AND HE 10:07.741 --> 10:09.539 align:start QUESTIONED WHY THE CHANGE IS 10:09.542 --> 10:10.540 align:start NECESSARY. 10:10.543 --> 10:11.742 align:start >> REP. ED 10:11.745 --> 10:12.542 align:start DELANEY(D-INDIANAPOLIS): I THINK 10:12.545 --> 10:14.611 align:start THE ANSWER'S APPARENT. THE 10:14.614 --> 10:16.146 align:start ANSWER IS, WE WANT TO REDUCE THE 10:16.149 --> 10:18.615 align:start NUMBER OF VOTERS. WHY DON'T YOU 10:18.618 --> 10:20.250 align:start JUST SAY THAT. 10:20.253 --> 10:20.784 align:start >> THE BILL IS UP FOR PASSAGE IN 10:20.787 --> 10:23.187 align:start THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. 10:23.190 --> 10:23.787 align:start >> MIKE O'BRIEN, WHY NOT JUST 10:23.790 --> 10:27.458 align:start GET RID OF ABSENTEE MAIL-IN 10:27.461 --> 10:31.528 align:start VOTING ENTIRELY? 10:31.531 --> 10:34.798 align:start I'M NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE 10:34.801 --> 10:36.767 align:start ELECTION DAY OR 28 DAYS BEFORE. 10:36.770 --> 10:40.671 align:start >> I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS A 10:40.674 --> 10:43.173 align:start WEIRD DEAL, THIS -- BECAUSE I 10:43.176 --> 10:44.341 align:start ALWAYS VOTED ABSENTEE, OR VOTE 10:44.344 --> 10:45.943 align:start IN PERSON EARLY. 10:45.946 --> 10:46.410 align:start I WAS NEVER AVAILABLE ON 10:46.413 --> 10:48.479 align:start ELECTION DAY. 10:48.482 --> 10:50.113 align:start I WAS ALWAYS WORKING ELECTIONS, 10:50.116 --> 10:52.750 align:start MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THE EASY WAY 10:52.753 --> 10:55.018 align:start OUT HERE AND -- NOW I CAN'T 10:55.021 --> 10:56.787 align:start ANYMORE WITHOUT JUST STRAIGHT UP 10:56.790 --> 11:00.157 align:start BEING -- VIOLATING THE SPIRIT OF 11:00.160 --> 11:01.425 align:start THE LAW BEFORE. 11:01.428 --> 11:04.261 align:start THE ACTUALLY LETTER. 11:04.264 --> 11:05.328 align:start THAT WAS THE POINT BEFORE, BEING 11:05.331 --> 11:06.096 align:start UNAVAILABLE WHEN GIVEN THE 11:06.099 --> 11:07.364 align:start OPPORTUNITY IN PERSON. 11:07.367 --> 11:09.532 align:start I'M A TRADITIONALIST, I 11:09.535 --> 11:12.035 align:start THINK -- I WOULD THINK WE MADE 11:12.038 --> 11:13.036 align:start IT WIDELY AND WILDLY AVAILABLE 11:13.039 --> 11:15.805 align:start VOTING IN THE LAST 20 YEARS IN 11:15.808 --> 11:16.873 align:start THIS STATE, CONTRARY TO WHAT 11:16.876 --> 11:19.176 align:start DEMOCRATS THINK, WHETHER VOTE 11:19.179 --> 11:21.244 align:start CENTERS OR SATELLITE VOTING, 11:21.247 --> 11:22.779 align:start EARLY VOTING FOR 30 DAYS, OR 11:22.782 --> 11:24.714 align:start VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, WHICH IS 11:24.717 --> 11:26.983 align:start WHAT WE DID TO START, IT WASN'T 11:26.986 --> 11:28.452 align:start THAT LONG AGO THAT WE DID THAT. 11:28.455 --> 11:30.987 align:start VAST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THIS 11:30.990 --> 11:34.391 align:start STATE. 11:34.394 --> 11:35.592 align:start FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE SOME 11:35.595 --> 11:37.327 align:start IDEOLOGICAL RIGID -- AS TIM 11:37.330 --> 11:39.129 align:start WESCO SAID, WE HAVE BEEN LIVING 11:39.132 --> 11:40.397 align:start ON THE HONOR SYSTEM FOREVER, I 11:40.400 --> 11:42.733 align:start THINK IT HAS WORKED. 11:42.736 --> 11:44.334 align:start BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR OWN 11:44.337 --> 11:47.070 align:start OPERATIONS THAT RECRUIT THEIR 11:47.073 --> 11:47.537 align:start OWN VOTERS TO VOTE ABSENTEE AND 11:47.540 --> 11:50.140 align:start VOTE EARLY. 11:50.143 --> 11:51.608 align:start SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT, 11:51.611 --> 11:54.344 align:start THEY'RE TRADITIONALISTS WHO WANT 11:54.347 --> 11:55.479 align:start VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, THE 11:55.482 --> 11:57.948 align:start ELECTION OSTENSIBLY ENDS 30 DAYS 11:57.951 --> 11:59.382 align:start BEFORE ELECTION DAY FOR A LOT OF 11:59.385 --> 12:00.484 align:start PEOPLE, CAMPAIGNS DON'T LIKE 12:00.487 --> 12:01.618 align:start THAT, CANDIDATES DON'T LIKE 12:01.621 --> 12:03.019 align:start THAT, THE ENVIRONMENT CAN 12:03.022 --> 12:03.853 align:start CHANGE, THIS AND THAT. 12:03.856 --> 12:05.789 align:start I DON'T THINK THIS WAS 12:05.792 --> 12:07.357 align:start NECESSARILY BROKEN IN INDIANA. 12:07.360 --> 12:10.494 align:start BUT I DO THINK CONTRARY TO WHAT 12:10.497 --> 12:12.730 align:start DEMOCRATS THINK, WE HAVE MADE IT 12:12.733 --> 12:16.299 align:start MUCH EASIER TO VOTE IN INDIANA 12:16.302 --> 12:17.501 align:start OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. 12:17.504 --> 12:23.240 align:start >> [LAUGHTER] HOLD THAT THOUGHT. 12:23.243 --> 12:24.775 align:start >> I KNOW YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT 12:24.778 --> 12:26.476 align:start MIKE SAID. 12:26.479 --> 12:30.981 align:start TIM WESCO REFERENCED. 12:30.984 --> 12:31.982 align:start INDIANA DOES THIS ABSENTEE 12:31.985 --> 12:33.517 align:start VOTING LARGELY ON THE -- NOBODY 12:33.520 --> 12:37.988 align:start IS CHECKING THIS. 12:37.991 --> 12:38.722 align:start IS THIS REALLY GOING TO AFFECT 12:38.725 --> 12:41.191 align:start HOW VOTERS VOTE? 12:41.194 --> 12:43.260 align:start >> WELL, YOU COULD HAVE A 12:43.263 --> 12:46.130 align:start SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY FINDS 12:46.133 --> 12:48.498 align:start OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO SENT IN 12:48.501 --> 12:50.267 align:start AN ABSENTEE BALLOT WAS PRESENT 12:50.270 --> 12:50.534 align:start AND HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST THAT 12:50.537 --> 12:52.002 align:start PERSON. 12:52.005 --> 12:53.837 align:start THERE ARE CRIMINALS -- IF YOU 12:53.840 --> 12:55.839 align:start CHANGE YOUR MIND OR YOU THINK 12:55.842 --> 12:57.207 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, OR YOU 12:57.210 --> 13:00.010 align:start THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE GONE 13:00.013 --> 13:00.677 align:start AND YOU'RE HERE, THERE ARE ALL 13:00.680 --> 13:02.145 align:start KINDS OF THINGS WHERE SOMEBODY 13:02.148 --> 13:03.213 align:start COULD MAKE TROUBLE BASED ON A 13:03.216 --> 13:04.748 align:start CRIMINAL PROSECUTION NOW, THE 13:04.751 --> 13:06.350 align:start HONOR SYSTEM APPARENTLY IS NO 13:06.353 --> 13:07.117 align:start LONGER GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS 13:07.120 --> 13:09.186 align:start STATE REPRESENTATIVE. 13:09.189 --> 13:11.087 align:start HE WANTS CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. 13:11.090 --> 13:13.156 align:start BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS 13:13.159 --> 13:15.225 align:start CAME OUT THE SAME WEEK THAT THE 13:15.228 --> 13:17.160 align:start CIVIC HEALTH INDEX CAME OUT, AND 13:17.163 --> 13:20.130 align:start INDIANA, DESPITE WHAT MIKE SAID, 13:20.133 --> 13:22.332 align:start HAS GONE FROM BEING 41st IN THE 13:22.335 --> 13:24.067 align:start STATE -- AMONG THE STATES TO 13:24.070 --> 13:26.403 align:start 46th IN THE STATE. 13:26.406 --> 13:28.772 align:start YEARS AGO, YEARS AGO, WE WERE IN 13:28.775 --> 13:30.874 align:start THE TOP 10 IN TERMS OF TURNOUT. 13:30.877 --> 13:32.075 align:start NOW, NOT ONLY THE BOTTOM 10, 13:32.078 --> 13:33.544 align:start WE'RE IN THE BOTTOM 5. 13:33.547 --> 13:35.179 align:start SO WE HAVE NOT MADE IT EASIER 13:35.182 --> 13:36.914 align:start FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE. 13:36.917 --> 13:39.983 align:start WE HAVE PUT REPEATED OBSTACLES 13:39.986 --> 13:43.120 align:start IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE VOTING. 13:43.123 --> 13:44.755 align:start >> THOSE STATS DON'T MATTER. 13:44.758 --> 13:46.122 align:start >> PARENTS DON'T -- REPUBLICANS 13:46.125 --> 13:47.758 align:start DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO VOTE. 13:47.761 --> 13:48.725 align:start >> WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR 13:48.728 --> 13:51.762 align:start IN VOTER MOTIVATION? 13:51.765 --> 13:54.264 align:start >> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 13:54.267 --> 13:55.198 align:start AND THE CIVIC HEALTH INDEX 13:55.201 --> 13:55.565 align:start ITSELF SHOWS HOW MUCH WE'VE 13:55.568 --> 13:57.201 align:start SLIPPED. 13:57.204 --> 13:58.769 align:start >> I THINK IT SHOWS HOW WE HAVE 13:58.772 --> 13:59.603 align:start NO COMPETITIVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 13:59.606 --> 14:01.371 align:start IN INDIANA. 14:01.374 --> 14:05.609 align:start BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO 14:05.612 --> 14:08.278 align:start GO VOTE IS BECAUSE IT'S 14:08.281 --> 14:08.711 align:start COMPETITIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF 14:08.714 --> 14:09.613 align:start GERRYMANDERING. 14:09.616 --> 14:10.013 align:start >> IT IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF 14:10.016 --> 14:15.919 align:start GERRYMANDERING. 14:15.922 --> 14:16.186 align:start THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO 14:16.189 --> 14:18.521 align:start COMPETITION. 14:18.524 --> 14:18.689 align:start BECAUSE YOU GERRYMANDERED IT SO 14:18.692 --> 14:20.357 align:start WELL. 14:20.360 --> 14:20.523 align:start >> YOU'RE A THIRD PLACE PARTY, 14:20.526 --> 14:22.959 align:start ANN. 14:22.962 --> 14:23.327 align:start WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER 14:23.330 --> 14:24.761 align:start CONSERVATIVES 14:24.764 --> 14:26.897 align:start >> YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU 14:26.900 --> 14:28.131 align:start WOULD BE HAPPY ENOUGH THAT THE 14:28.134 --> 14:29.600 align:start GERRYMANDERING RESULTS THAT YOU 14:29.603 --> 14:30.767 align:start WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RESTRICT 14:30.770 --> 14:33.436 align:start REGISTRATION AND VOTING, BUT 14:33.439 --> 14:37.107 align:start THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS. 14:37.110 --> 14:38.675 align:start >> YOU'RE JUST ABSURD. 14:38.678 --> 14:40.777 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, DO YOU FEEL 14:40.780 --> 14:42.379 align:start LIKE THIS IS -- I FEEL LIKE I'M 14:42.382 --> 14:43.980 align:start ASKING A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT I 14:43.983 --> 14:48.385 align:start ASKED ON THE LAST TOPIC. 14:48.388 --> 14:48.718 align:start WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THIS 14:48.721 --> 14:50.254 align:start LEGISLATION? 14:50.257 --> 14:52.822 align:start >> PROBABLY NO NEED. 14:52.825 --> 14:53.257 align:start THE MOTIVATION, I THINK, IS CUT 14:53.260 --> 14:55.558 align:start AND DRIED. 14:55.561 --> 14:55.759 align:start REPUBLICANS WANT FEWER PEOPLE TO 14:55.762 --> 14:58.362 align:start VOTE. 14:58.365 --> 15:02.198 align:start THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 15:02.201 --> 15:05.302 align:start LET'S NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. 15:05.305 --> 15:07.036 align:start IT'S -- I AGREE WITH MIKE THAT 15:07.039 --> 15:08.071 align:start IDEALLY WE'D ALL -- I LOVE THE 15:08.074 --> 15:09.239 align:start TRADITION OF EVERYBODY GOING TO 15:09.242 --> 15:11.374 align:start THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. 15:11.377 --> 15:12.575 align:start IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A 15:12.578 --> 15:15.345 align:start BIPARTISAN COMMISSION, FEDERAL 15:15.348 --> 15:19.883 align:start COMMISSION, I THINK IT WAS 15:19.886 --> 15:23.920 align:start CO-CHAIRED MAYBE BY GERALD FORD 15:23.923 --> 15:25.322 align:start AND JIMMY CARTER, LET'S MAKE 15:25.325 --> 15:26.390 align:start THIS SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT 15:26.393 --> 15:28.125 align:start EVERYBODY WORKS TOGETHER. 15:28.128 --> 15:29.125 align:start I WOULD LOVE THAT, WE DON'T LIVE 15:29.128 --> 15:32.762 align:start IN LA LA LAND. 15:32.765 --> 15:34.064 align:start SEEMS TO ME, WELL, WE CAN DEBATE 15:34.067 --> 15:35.598 align:start THE VOTER SECURITY. 15:35.601 --> 15:37.434 align:start BUT WE CAN'T DEBATE THE 15:37.437 --> 15:38.635 align:start MOTIVATION HERE, WHICH IS TO 15:38.638 --> 15:38.969 align:start REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 15:38.972 --> 15:41.237 align:start VOTING. 15:41.240 --> 15:46.543 align:start THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR. 15:46.546 --> 15:48.778 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, TIM WESCO KIND OF 15:48.781 --> 15:51.214 align:start INDIRECTLY CAST SOME DOUBT ON 15:51.217 --> 15:52.749 align:start THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF 15:52.752 --> 15:52.983 align:start MAIL-IN VOTING DURING THAT HOUSE 15:52.986 --> 15:54.718 align:start COMMITTEE. 15:54.721 --> 15:55.585 align:start IS THERE ANY WIDE EVIDENCE OF 15:55.588 --> 15:57.821 align:start WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD WHEN IT 15:57.824 --> 15:59.422 align:start COMES TO MAIL-IN VOTING. 15:59.425 --> 16:00.890 align:start WE HAVE STATES WHO FOR TWO 16:00.893 --> 16:02.459 align:start DECADES HAVE BEEN DOING 16:02.462 --> 16:04.761 align:start EXCLUSIVELY MAIL-IN VOTING? 16:04.764 --> 16:06.730 align:start >> NO, THERE ISN'T. 16:06.733 --> 16:07.998 align:start SURE, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND AN 16:08.001 --> 16:08.264 align:start OCCASIONAL INSTANCE HERE OR 16:08.267 --> 16:08.831 align:start THERE. 16:08.834 --> 16:10.400 align:start SOMETIMES IT IS ON THE 16:10.403 --> 16:11.201 align:start REPUBLICAN SIDE AND SOMETIMES ON 16:11.204 --> 16:12.769 align:start THE DEMOCRAT SIDE. 16:12.772 --> 16:14.804 align:start ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE WITH 16:14.807 --> 16:16.706 align:start THIS WHOLE NOTION OF THE ENTIRE 16:16.709 --> 16:17.540 align:start MONTH BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE. 16:17.543 --> 16:20.010 align:start THIS 28 DAYS THING. 16:20.013 --> 16:22.045 align:start FOR A LOT OF COUNTIES, THOUGH, 16:22.048 --> 16:22.412 align:start THAT -- YOU CAN'T VOTE ALL 28 16:22.415 --> 16:24.748 align:start DAYS. 16:24.751 --> 16:26.049 align:start A LOT OF COUNTIES JUST HAVE 16:26.052 --> 16:27.117 align:start SATURDAY VOTING. 16:27.120 --> 16:28.485 align:start REALLY THAT'S FOUR ADDITIONAL 16:28.488 --> 16:29.486 align:start DAYS YOU CAN VOTE. 16:29.489 --> 16:32.088 align:start NOT 28. 16:32.091 --> 16:33.723 align:start SO REALLY IS A WIDE VARIETY, 16:33.726 --> 16:34.090 align:start DEPENDING WHERE YOU LIVE. 16:34.093 --> 16:36.426 align:start >> YEAH. 16:36.429 --> 16:37.828 align:start NOT JUST WHAT DAYS, EVEN WHAT 16:37.831 --> 16:41.698 align:start HOURS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 16:41.701 --> 16:41.965 align:start SOME DAYS IT'S FOUR HOURS IN THE 16:41.968 --> 16:44.768 align:start MORNING. 16:44.771 --> 16:46.370 align:start >> WE SHOULD PROBABLY POINT OUT 16:46.373 --> 16:48.772 align:start DONALD TRUMP RELIED ON MAIL-IN 16:48.775 --> 16:51.241 align:start VOTING MOST OF HIS LIFE, 16:51.244 --> 16:54.644 align:start CERTAINLY IN THE LAST ELECTION. 16:54.647 --> 16:56.313 align:start >> PROBABLY CORRUPT 16:56.316 --> 16:57.047 align:start >> THE INDIANA HOUSE APPROVED A 16:57.050 --> 16:57.514 align:start CONTROVERSIAL SCHOOL CONTENT AND 16:57.517 --> 16:59.516 align:start CURRICULUM BILL THIS WEEK. 16:59.519 --> 17:00.117 align:start INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S 17:00.120 --> 17:00.717 align:start JEANIE LINDSAY REPORTS, 17:00.720 --> 17:01.651 align:start LAWMAKERS PASSED THE MEASURE 17:01.654 --> 17:02.719 align:start AFTER MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A 17:02.722 --> 17:03.920 align:start PHALF OF DISCUSSION ON THE HOUS 17:03.923 --> 17:06.322 align:start FLOOR. 17:06.325 --> 17:08.758 align:start >> LAWMAKERS MADE A FEW CHANGES 17:08.761 --> 17:10.393 align:start TO HOUSE BILL 1134 BEFORE THE 17:10.396 --> 17:12.729 align:start HOUSE APPROVED IT. BILL AUTHOR 17:12.732 --> 17:14.330 align:start REP. TONY COOK SAYS THEY AIM TO 17:14.333 --> 17:16.733 align:start ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT THE BILL 17:16.736 --> 17:17.400 align:start WOULD ADD ONTO SCHOOLS' 17:17.403 --> 17:19.402 align:start WORKLOADS OR PREVENT TEACHERS 17:19.405 --> 17:20.604 align:start FROM CONDEMNING RACISM. BUT 17:20.607 --> 17:23.273 align:start CONCERNS PERSISTED FROM SOME 17:23.276 --> 17:23.907 align:start LAWMAKERS, LIKE REPRESENTATIVE 17:23.910 --> 17:24.774 align:start CAROLYN JACKSON, ABOUT HOW THE 17:24.777 --> 17:27.244 align:start OVERALL LEGISLATION COULD IMPACT 17:27.247 --> 17:27.677 align:start SCHOOLS - ESPECIALLY AS THE 17:27.680 --> 17:28.778 align:start PANDEMIC CONTINUES. 17:28.781 --> 17:32.749 align:start >> REP. CAROLYN JACKSON 17:32.752 --> 17:34.084 align:start (D-HAMMOND): I THINK WE NEED TO 17:34.087 --> 17:36.753 align:start STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE 17:36.756 --> 17:37.354 align:start SITUATION BEFORE WE CREATE 17:37.357 --> 17:39.622 align:start ANOTHER OBSTACLE AND FALL ON OUR 17:39.625 --> 17:43.126 align:start FACE. 17:43.129 --> 17:43.727 align:start >> MANY LAWMAKERS OPPOSED TO THE 17:43.730 --> 17:44.861 align:start BILL WORRY IT COULD REDUCE THE 17:44.864 --> 17:46.196 align:start NUMBER OF TEACHERS WILLING TO 17:46.199 --> 17:51.267 align:start WORK IN THE STATE. THE HOUSE 17:51.270 --> 17:54.471 align:start APPROVED THE LEGISLATION 60 TO 17:54.474 --> 17:55.739 align:start 37. IT NOW HEADS TO THE SENATE. 17:55.742 --> 17:57.140 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, BEFORE THEY 17:57.143 --> 17:58.875 align:start PASSED THE BILL OVER TO THE 17:58.878 --> 17:59.943 align:start SENATE, THEY CHANGED THE BILL IN 17:59.946 --> 18:02.912 align:start A NINE-PAGE AMENDMENT. 18:02.915 --> 18:04.781 align:start ANY TIME YOU HAVE A NINE-PAGE 18:04.784 --> 18:08.785 align:start AMENDMENT TO A PIECE OF 18:08.788 --> 18:12.388 align:start LEGISLATION, THAT'S A GOOD BILL. 18:12.391 --> 18:15.492 align:start CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF THE 18:15.495 --> 18:20.763 align:start CHANGES TO THE BILL? 18:20.766 --> 18:24.767 align:start >> MOST WERE TWEAKING, IT LIMITS 18:24.770 --> 18:26.236 align:start THE DAMAGES, IT WAS TEACHERS 18:26.239 --> 18:27.403 align:start HAVING TO POST CURRICULUM, IF 18:27.406 --> 18:28.972 align:start THEY STUMBLED UPON AN ARTICLE 18:28.975 --> 18:31.107 align:start THE NIGHT BEFORE, DO THEY HAVE 18:31.110 --> 18:33.943 align:start TO RUN IMMEDIATELY AND POST IT 18:33.946 --> 18:35.011 align:start BEFORE CLASS, OR WILL THEY BE IN 18:35.014 --> 18:37.314 align:start VIOLATION OF THE LAW? 18:37.317 --> 18:39.282 align:start THEY BACKED THAT DOWN A LITTLE 18:39.285 --> 18:40.750 align:start TO BE A LITTLE LESS, I GUESS, 18:40.753 --> 18:42.418 align:start ONEROUS, ON THAT SIDE. 18:42.421 --> 18:43.820 align:start BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND 18:43.823 --> 18:45.421 align:start PURPOSES, IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE 18:45.424 --> 18:45.956 align:start SAME BILL IT'S BEEN THE WHOLE 18:45.959 --> 18:48.257 align:start TIME. 18:48.260 --> 18:50.026 align:start THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN 18:50.029 --> 18:53.263 align:start CHANGING THE DIVISIVE CONCEPT 18:53.266 --> 18:54.664 align:start LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, WHICH IS 18:54.667 --> 18:55.365 align:start THE WHOLE REASON THERE IS 18:55.368 --> 18:57.800 align:start DIVISION ON THE BILL. 18:57.803 --> 18:59.135 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, TO THAT END, 18:59.138 --> 19:00.103 align:start THE SENATE KILLED OFF ITS 19:00.106 --> 19:02.805 align:start VERSION OF THIS MEASURE. 19:02.808 --> 19:03.140 align:start IT SAID THERE WAS NO PATH 19:03.143 --> 19:04.373 align:start FORWARD. 19:04.376 --> 19:06.309 align:start THAT'S WHAT THE VERY BRIEF 4:00 19:06.312 --> 19:07.844 align:start P.M. ON A FRIDAY STATEMENT SAID. 19:07.847 --> 19:10.046 align:start IF THERE IS NO PATH FORWARD ON 19:10.049 --> 19:11.915 align:start THAT BILL, WHY WOULD THERE BE A 19:11.918 --> 19:13.950 align:start PATH FORWARD ON THIS BILL? 19:13.953 --> 19:16.452 align:start >> THIS ASSUMES THERE IS. 19:16.455 --> 19:19.289 align:start I MEAN, I THINK THE SENATE CAN 19:19.292 --> 19:21.124 align:start MAYBE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE HERE. 19:21.127 --> 19:22.058 align:start I THINK THERE IS CLEARLY 19:22.061 --> 19:23.159 align:start ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT. 19:23.162 --> 19:24.494 align:start VARIOUS BILLS HAVE BEEN 19:24.497 --> 19:26.462 align:start INTRODUCED, SOME DEAL WITH 19:26.465 --> 19:27.864 align:start NARROW PORTIONS OF THIS WHOLE 19:27.867 --> 19:30.466 align:start REFORM PACKAGE WITH PARENTAL 19:30.469 --> 19:31.401 align:start INVOLVEMENT AND PARENTAL INPUT. 19:31.404 --> 19:33.436 align:start OTHERS ARE MUCH BROADER. 19:33.439 --> 19:36.539 align:start SO WHAT I THINK WE COULD SEE 19:36.542 --> 19:39.109 align:start COME OUT OF THIS IS ATTEMPTS AT 19:39.112 --> 19:40.377 align:start MORE TRANSPARENCY. 19:40.380 --> 19:44.414 align:start FORMALIZED POSTING OF COURSE 19:44.417 --> 19:44.781 align:start LESSONS AND COURSE MATERIALS, 19:44.784 --> 19:46.983 align:start CURRICULA. 19:46.986 --> 19:47.717 align:start AND INVOLVEMENT, MANDATORY 19:47.720 --> 19:48.951 align:start INVOLVEMENT OF THE PUBLIC AND 19:48.954 --> 19:51.287 align:start SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS IN TERMS 19:51.290 --> 19:57.293 align:start OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A 19:57.296 --> 19:58.795 align:start SAY WITHOUT IMPOSING VERY 19:58.798 --> 20:00.797 align:start SPECIFIC BUT STILL SUBJECT TO 20:00.800 --> 20:03.266 align:start DEBATE GUIDELINES ABOUT WHAT CAN 20:03.269 --> 20:05.402 align:start BE TAUGHT OR THE REVIEW PROCESS. 20:05.405 --> 20:07.236 align:start BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON 20:07.239 --> 20:10.073 align:start SOCIAL STUDIES, AND LANGUAGE 20:10.076 --> 20:10.307 align:start ARTS IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT 20:10.310 --> 20:12.775 align:start WAY. 20:12.778 --> 20:19.015 align:start IF YOU PUT THE WHOLE CURRICULA 20:19.018 --> 20:20.250 align:start TO AN ADVISORY PANEL, I CAN SEE 20:20.253 --> 20:20.617 align:start CREATIONISM VERSUS EVOLUTION 20:20.620 --> 20:22.518 align:start CREEPING IN. 20:22.521 --> 20:24.120 align:start I CAN SEE WHEN YOU HAVE A 20:24.123 --> 20:25.455 align:start PERSONAL FINANCE CLASS AND 20:25.458 --> 20:27.324 align:start STUDENTS ARE GIVEN A FAKE POT OF 20:27.327 --> 20:28.791 align:start MONEY TO LEARN HOW TO INVEST IN 20:28.794 --> 20:31.127 align:start THE STOCK MARKET, THERE ARE 20:31.130 --> 20:32.795 align:start PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU ARE CREATING 20:32.798 --> 20:33.796 align:start A BUNCH OF CUTTHROAT CAPITALISTS 20:33.799 --> 20:36.600 align:start WITH NO HEART. 20:36.603 --> 20:38.268 align:start THIS WHOLE THING POTENTIALLY, 20:38.271 --> 20:40.003 align:start THAT'S A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION 20:40.006 --> 20:42.772 align:start IN TERMS OF REALITY. 20:42.775 --> 20:45.241 align:start IT DOES SEEM THAT CRITICS ARE 20:45.244 --> 20:47.110 align:start WORRIED A LOT ABOUT GRIDLOCK 20:47.113 --> 20:50.880 align:start HERE, AND THE BURDEN THAT WOULD 20:50.883 --> 20:52.215 align:start BE CREATED BY THIS MULTI-LAYERED 20:52.218 --> 20:53.416 align:start APPROACH TO CURRICULUM APPROVAL. 20:53.419 --> 20:55.752 align:start >> MIKE O'BRIEN, IF THE SENATE 20:55.755 --> 20:57.153 align:start TOOK OUT THE DIVISIVE CONCEPTS 20:57.156 --> 20:58.288 align:start LANGUAGE AND WE WERE LEFT WITH A 20:58.291 --> 20:59.456 align:start LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM 20:59.459 --> 21:03.226 align:start TEACHERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY 21:03.229 --> 21:04.727 align:start HAVE TO POST ONLINE AND THESE 21:04.730 --> 21:06.028 align:start PARENT -- THESE CURRICULUM 21:06.031 --> 21:08.364 align:start COMMITTEES THAT PARENTS WOULD 21:08.367 --> 21:10.166 align:start PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN AT THE 21:10.169 --> 21:12.001 align:start SCHOOL BOARD AND DISTRICT LEVEL. 21:12.004 --> 21:15.104 align:start IF THAT'S ALL THE BILL WAS LEFT 21:15.107 --> 21:15.805 align:start WITH, DOES THIS HAVE IS A MUCH 21:15.808 --> 21:16.706 align:start EASIER PATH FORWARD? 21:16.709 --> 21:18.875 align:start >> PROBABLY. 21:18.878 --> 21:20.677 align:start BUT I THINK THE GOAL NEEDS TO BE 21:20.680 --> 21:21.144 align:start TRANSPARENCY AND NOT CONTROL FOR 21:21.147 --> 21:23.246 align:start PARENTS. 21:23.249 --> 21:23.880 align:start AND TAKE THIS OFF THE TEACHER'S 21:23.883 --> 21:25.815 align:start PLATE ENTIRELY. 21:25.818 --> 21:28.851 align:start MOVE THIS ENTIRELY TO A SCHOOL 21:28.854 --> 21:30.420 align:start BOARD, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF 21:30.423 --> 21:30.686 align:start PARENTAL COMMITTEE ADVISORY 21:30.689 --> 21:33.389 align:start ROLE. 21:33.392 --> 21:36.426 align:start BUT WHERE ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE 21:36.429 --> 21:36.759 align:start ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS 21:36.762 --> 21:38.428 align:start ULTIMATELY. 21:38.431 --> 21:39.495 align:start LET THEM POST WHAT -- LET THEM 21:39.498 --> 21:41.798 align:start DIRECT THE CORPORATION POST WHAT 21:41.801 --> 21:44.767 align:start THEY WANT TO POST IN THE LEAST 21:44.770 --> 21:47.070 align:start ONEROUS WAY POSSIBLE. 21:47.073 --> 21:49.205 align:start PUTTING TEACHERS IN THIS 21:49.208 --> 21:51.274 align:start SITUATION, THEY AREN'T PREPPING 21:51.277 --> 21:58.181 align:start MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY ARE 21:58.184 --> 22:00.183 align:start PREPPING THE NIGHT BEFORE, 11:00 22:00.186 --> 22:03.720 align:start OR 12:00 AT NIGHT, ONCE THEY GET 22:03.723 --> 22:06.656 align:start THEIR OWN KIDS TO BED. 22:06.659 --> 22:07.056 align:start THIS HAS GOT TO BE ON 22:07.059 --> 22:09.258 align:start TRANSPARENCY. 22:09.261 --> 22:11.160 align:start THE ONEROUS HAS GOT TO BE ON THE 22:11.163 --> 22:12.762 align:start PARENTS TO DO THE WORK TO GO ASK 22:12.765 --> 22:14.697 align:start THOSE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF THEM 22:14.700 --> 22:16.733 align:start ARE DOING THAT. 22:16.736 --> 22:19.235 align:start THEY'RE DOING IT IN A PRETTY 22:19.238 --> 22:20.570 align:start HOSTILE WAY, I WISH IT WAS MORE 22:20.573 --> 22:22.305 align:start THOUGHTFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE. 22:22.308 --> 22:23.106 align:start TO PUT THIS ON TEACHER'S PLATE 22:23.109 --> 22:24.307 align:start IS TOO MUCH. 22:24.310 --> 22:26.576 align:start >> ANN DeLANEY, TO WHAT MIKE 22:26.579 --> 22:27.810 align:start JUST TALKED ABOUT, IF THE SENATE 22:27.813 --> 22:30.179 align:start CANGES THE BILL TO BE WHAT MIKE 22:30.182 --> 22:34.784 align:start JUST INDICATED, TAKING IT OFF 22:34.787 --> 22:37.454 align:start THE TEACHERS, FOCUSING ON 22:37.457 --> 22:38.788 align:start TRANSPARENCY, IS THAT A GOOD 22:38.791 --> 22:41.858 align:start PIECE OF LEGISLATION? 22:41.861 --> 22:42.224 align:start >> CERTAINLY BETTER PIECE OF 22:42.227 --> 22:44.394 align:start LEGISLATION. 22:44.397 --> 22:46.529 align:start THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 22:46.532 --> 22:48.398 align:start HAVE THOUGHT CONTROL, AN EQUAL 22:48.401 --> 22:49.799 align:start APPROACH TO ANY ISSUE NO MATTER 22:49.802 --> 22:52.702 align:start HOW HORRIFIC THAT HAS BEEN IN 22:52.705 --> 22:52.969 align:start THE PAST HISTORY OF THE WORLD IS 22:52.972 --> 22:55.238 align:start RIDICULOUS. 22:55.241 --> 22:59.442 align:start I AGREE WITH MIKE. 22:59.445 --> 22:59.943 align:start WE'VE PUT ENOUGH BURDEN ON 22:59.946 --> 23:02.145 align:start TEACHERS. 23:02.148 --> 23:02.745 align:start IT IS ALREADY A DIFFICULT ENOUGH 23:02.748 --> 23:03.980 align:start PROFESSION, MADE MUCH MORE 23:03.983 --> 23:06.149 align:start DIFFICULT BY THE PANDEMIC, NOW 23:06.152 --> 23:07.250 align:start WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER 23:07.253 --> 23:11.688 align:start ON THAT, IT'S CRAZY. 23:11.691 --> 23:12.555 align:start IF PARENTS WANT TO HAVE A 23:12.558 --> 23:13.823 align:start CURRICULUM ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN 23:13.826 --> 23:15.491 align:start THEIR DISTRICT WHERE THEY CAN 23:15.494 --> 23:16.826 align:start DISCUSS A TIME, PARENTS CAN 23:16.829 --> 23:20.763 align:start ALREADY PICK UP THE TEXTBOOK, 23:20.766 --> 23:23.432 align:start THEY CAN ALREADY TALK TO THE 23:23.435 --> 23:24.700 align:start TEACHERS, OR EMAIL THE TEACHERS 23:24.703 --> 23:26.235 align:start AND ASK ABOUT THE CURRICULUM. 23:26.238 --> 23:27.771 align:start THERE IS NO BARRIER TO THAT NOW. 23:27.774 --> 23:29.305 align:start AND IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 23:29.308 --> 23:31.140 align:start IT, THEY CAN GO TO THE PRINCIPAL 23:31.143 --> 23:33.276 align:start OR THE SUPERINTENDENT, OR THEY 23:33.279 --> 23:34.644 align:start CAN GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. 23:34.647 --> 23:36.379 align:start WHY THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO GET 23:36.382 --> 23:37.980 align:start IN THE MIDDLE OF ISSUES WHERE 23:37.983 --> 23:39.282 align:start THEY CAN BE DEALT WITH ON A 23:39.285 --> 23:41.784 align:start LOCAL LEVEL IS BEYOND ME. 23:41.787 --> 23:44.754 align:start AND ANYTHING THAT PUTS MORE ON 23:44.757 --> 23:45.021 align:start THE TEACHERS' PLATE IS A BAD 23:45.024 --> 23:47.156 align:start IDEA. 23:47.159 --> 23:48.391 align:start WITH THIS BILL AND THIS CONCEPT, 23:48.394 --> 23:49.659 align:start WE'RE ALREADY THE LAUGHINGSTOCK 23:49.662 --> 23:50.793 align:start OF THE COUNTRY. 23:50.796 --> 23:52.295 align:start WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT AT 23:52.298 --> 23:53.663 align:start THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO 23:53.666 --> 23:53.863 align:start RECRUIT NEW BUSINESS INTO THIS 23:53.866 --> 23:56.733 align:start STATE. 23:56.736 --> 23:56.866 align:start LOTS OF LUCK WITH THAT. 23:56.869 --> 23:57.467 align:start >> 23:57.470 --> 23:58.401 align:start INDIANA LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 23:58.404 --> 24:00.737 align:start INDICATED RECENTLY THE GENERAL 24:00.740 --> 24:02.071 align:start ASSEMBLY WILL LIKELY HOLD OFF ON 24:02.074 --> 24:03.272 align:start ANY MAJOR ANTI-ABORTION 24:03.275 --> 24:03.939 align:start LEGISLATION THIS SESSION. 24:03.942 --> 24:04.540 align:start LAWMAKERS WANT TO WAIT FOR THE 24:04.543 --> 24:05.441 align:start US SUPREME COURT TO RULE ON THE 24:05.444 --> 24:08.578 align:start ISSUE LATER THIS YEAR BEFORE 24:08.581 --> 24:09.245 align:start TAKING ACTION. 24:09.248 --> 24:10.613 align:start >> THE FUTURE OF ABORTION RIGHTS 24:10.616 --> 24:12.148 align:start MAY BE DECIDED BY THE SUPREME 24:12.151 --> 24:14.617 align:start COURT THIS YEAR. AND INDIANA 24:14.620 --> 24:15.251 align:start SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM RODRIC 24:15.254 --> 24:15.819 align:start BRAY SAYS IT'S BEST TO WAIT FOR 24:15.822 --> 24:16.752 align:start THE DECISION BEFORE PASSING 24:16.755 --> 24:17.220 align:start LEGISLATION. 24:17.223 --> 24:18.688 align:start >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 24:18.691 --> 24:20.756 align:start (R-MARTINSVILLE): TO TRY AND 24:20.759 --> 24:24.760 align:start ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT MIGHT SAY 24:24.763 --> 24:27.463 align:start AND DRAFT LEGISLATION TO 24:27.466 --> 24:29.299 align:start ANTICIPATE EVERY POSSIBLE 24:29.302 --> 24:30.433 align:start SOLUTION OR OPINION THAT THEY 24:30.436 --> 24:31.467 align:start COULD COME OUT WITH JUST LOOKS 24:31.470 --> 24:32.035 align:start COMPLETELY UNDOABLE TO ME. SO, I 24:32.038 --> 24:33.202 align:start DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO TRY. 24:33.205 --> 24:35.238 align:start >> BUT ONCE THE COURT RULES, 24:35.241 --> 24:36.105 align:start BRAY SAYS HE MIGHT ASK THE 24:36.108 --> 24:36.372 align:start GOVERNOR TO CALL A SPECIAL 24:36.375 --> 24:38.374 align:start SESSION. 24:38.377 --> 24:39.275 align:start >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 24:39.278 --> 24:40.710 align:start (R-MARTINSVILLE): I THINK WE'LL 24:40.713 --> 24:41.344 align:start HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ADVOCATING 24:41.347 --> 24:42.078 align:start THAT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY 24:42.081 --> 24:43.012 align:start LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO TO MAKE A 24:43.015 --> 24:43.846 align:start CHANGE HERE IN THE STATE, IF 24:43.849 --> 24:45.281 align:start THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. 24:45.284 --> 24:46.282 align:start >> THE COURT'S RULINGS COULD 24:46.285 --> 24:48.751 align:start MEAN EVERYTHING FROM BANNING 24:48.754 --> 24:49.451 align:start ABORTION OUTRIGHT TO RESTRICTING 24:49.454 --> 24:54.357 align:start HOW LONG INTO PREGNANCY PEOPLE 24:54.360 --> 24:55.592 align:start CAN ACCESS ABORTION CARE. 24:55.595 --> 24:56.759 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, WILL GOP 24:56.762 --> 24:58.728 align:start CONSTITUENTS FOR WHOM ABORTION 24:58.731 --> 24:59.962 align:start IS ONE OF, IF NOT THE MOST 24:59.965 --> 25:03.800 align:start IMPORTANT ISSUE BE OKAY WITH 25:03.803 --> 25:07.136 align:start THIS WAIT-AND-SEE APPROACH? 25:07.139 --> 25:08.904 align:start >> THEY'LL BE DISAPPOINTED. 25:08.907 --> 25:10.806 align:start IF THERE WERE LEGISLATION, IT 25:10.809 --> 25:11.307 align:start WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JULY 25:11.310 --> 25:12.275 align:start 1. 25:12.278 --> 25:13.843 align:start THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IS 25:13.846 --> 25:15.278 align:start EXPECTED IN LATE JUNE. 25:15.281 --> 25:18.481 align:start AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT MAKES 25:18.484 --> 25:20.616 align:start SENSE TO WAIT AND SEE. 25:20.619 --> 25:22.184 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, CHANCES VERY HIGH 25:22.187 --> 25:23.920 align:start WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION 25:23.923 --> 25:25.588 align:start LATER THIS YEAR ON ABORTION? 25:25.591 --> 25:27.957 align:start >> WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALL 25:27.960 --> 25:28.324 align:start DEPENDS ON HOW THAT RULING COMES 25:28.327 --> 25:30.226 align:start DOWN. 25:30.229 --> 25:45.241 align:start IF THEY IN ANY WAY GIVE STATES 25:45.244 --> 25:45.575 align:start MORE RIGHT TO CURTAIL ABORTION, 25:45.578 --> 25:46.242 align:start ABSOLUTELY. 25:46.245 --> 25:46.576 align:start THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 25:46.579 --> 25:47.110 align:start FOR THIS WEEK. 25:47.113 --> 25:47.443 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 25:47.446 --> 25:47.910 align:start DELANEY. 25:47.913 --> 25:48.411 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 25:48.414 --> 25:48.744 align:start JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 25:48.747 --> 25:49.312 align:start LAWMAKERS. 25:49.315 --> 25:49.779 align:start AND NIKI KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE 25:49.782 --> 25:50.379 align:start JOURNAL GAZETTE. 25:50.382 --> 25:50.980 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 25:50.983 --> 25:51.580 align:start PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 25:51.583 --> 25:52.381 align:start WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 25:52.384 --> 25:53.115 align:start YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 25:53.118 --> 25:56.485 align:start DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 25:56.488 --> 25:57.053 align:start WFYI APP. 25:57.056 --> 25:59.221 align:start I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 25:59.224 --> 26:03.259 align:start PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 26:03.262 --> 26:04.794 align:start STAY SAFE, STAY HEALTHY, PLEASE 26:04.797 --> 26:05.428 align:start GET VACCINATED IF YOU CAN. 26:05.431 --> 26:08.598 align:start JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 26:08.601 --> 26:08.665 align:start CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK. 26:08.733 --> 26:16.573 align:start ♪♪ 26:28.486 --> 26:31.454 align:start ♪♪ 26:35.427 --> 26:38.595 align:start >> THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE 26:38.598 --> 26:42.031 align:start SOLELY THOSE OF THE PANELISTS, 26:42.034 --> 26:43.232 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS A WFYI 26:43.235 --> 26:43.833 align:start PRODUCTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH 26:43.836 --> 26:52.441 align:start INDIANA'S PUBLIC BROADCASTING 26:52.444 --> 26:53.608 align:start STATIONS. 26:53.611 --> 26:53.842 align:start >> BANNING TRANS STUDENTS FROM 26:53.845 --> 26:55.878 align:start SPORTS. 26:55.881 --> 26:57.412 align:start ABSENTEE MAIL-IN VOTING 26:57.415 --> 26:57.946 align:start RESTRICTED. 26:57.949 --> 26:59.682 align:start PLUS, CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL 26:59.685 --> 27:00.549 align:start CURRICULUM BILL AND MORE ON 27:00.552 --> 27:06.555 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE 27:06.558 --> 27:08.890 align:start WEEK ENDING JANUARY 28, 2022. 27:08.893 --> 27:10.992 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 27:10.995 --> 27:14.096 align:start MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 27:14.099 --> 27:15.864 align:start OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 27:15.867 --> 27:17.066 align:start STATIONS. 27:17.069 --> 27:18.066 align:start >> THIS WEEK, PROTESTS ERUPTED 27:18.069 --> 27:18.667 align:start IN THE INDIANA HOUSE CHAMBER 27:18.670 --> 27:21.003 align:start FOLLOWING A COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL 27:21.006 --> 27:21.669 align:start OF A BILL RESTRICTING 27:21.672 --> 27:24.206 align:start TRANSGENDER GIRLS' ACCESS TO 27:24.209 --> 27:24.806 align:start SCHOOL SPORTS. THE VOTE CAME 27:24.809 --> 27:26.041 align:start AFTER HOURS OF TESTIMONY FROM 27:26.044 --> 27:28.243 align:start HOOSIERS WHO MOSTLY OPPOSE THE 27:28.246 --> 27:30.078 align:start MEASURE. 27:30.081 --> 27:32.914 align:start >> THE LEGISLATION WOULD 27:32.917 --> 27:34.049 align:start PROHIBIT TRANSGENDER GIRLS FROM 27:34.052 --> 27:34.783 align:start JOINING GIRLS SCHOOL SPORTS 27:34.786 --> 27:36.284 align:start TEAMS. REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE 27:36.287 --> 27:37.686 align:start MICHELLE DAVIS IS ITS AUTHOR. 27:37.689 --> 27:38.987 align:start >> REP. MICHELLE DAVIS 27:38.990 --> 27:41.923 align:start (R-WHITELAND): THE PURPOSE OF 27:41.926 --> 27:42.524 align:start THIS BILL IS TO MAINTAIN FAIR 27:42.527 --> 27:43.058 align:start COMPETITION IN GIRLS SPORTS. 27:43.061 --> 27:46.094 align:start >> BUT MANY PEOPLE OPPOSED TO 27:46.097 --> 27:47.529 align:start THE BILL SAY IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO 27:47.532 --> 27:48.163 align:start DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AN 27:48.166 --> 27:50.065 align:start ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE GROUP OF 27:50.068 --> 27:50.599 align:start CHILDREN. CHRIS PAULSEN FROM 27:50.602 --> 27:53.602 align:start INDIANA YOUTH GROUP JOINED 27:53.605 --> 27:54.135 align:start SEVERAL OTHERS WHO POINTED OUT 27:54.138 --> 27:54.703 align:start THE MENTAL HEALTH RISKS 27:54.706 --> 27:57.072 align:start TRANSGENDER YOUTH FACE, 27:57.075 --> 27:58.073 align:start ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR IDENTITY 27:58.076 --> 28:00.542 align:start IS TARGETED BY POLITICIANS. 28:00.545 --> 28:01.376 align:start >> CHRIS PAULSEN: THE TREVOR 28:01.379 --> 28:05.380 align:start PROJECT'S 2021 SURVEY OF NEARLY 28:05.383 --> 28:07.082 align:start 35 THOUSAND YOUTH AGES 13 TO 24 28:07.085 --> 28:10.085 align:start SHOW THAT MORE THAN 50 PERCENT 28:10.088 --> 28:12.488 align:start OF TRANSGENDER YOUTH HAVE 28:12.491 --> 28:13.956 align:start SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED SUICIDE IN 28:13.959 --> 28:14.322 align:start THE PAST YEAR. 28:14.325 --> 28:14.956 align:start >> THE BILL 28:14.959 --> 28:17.025 align:start PASSED THE FULL HOUSE THURSDAY. 28:17.028 --> 28:17.292 align:start WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS BILL 28:17.295 --> 28:22.030 align:start SOLVING? 28:22.033 --> 28:24.533 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 28:24.536 --> 28:25.534 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANE.L 28:25.537 --> 28:26.001 align:start DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY. 28:26.004 --> 28:28.670 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 28:28.673 --> 28:30.038 align:start JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 28:30.041 --> 28:30.772 align:start LAWMAKERS, AND NIKI KELLY, 28:30.775 --> 28:31.306 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE FORT 28:31.309 --> 28:34.042 align:start WAYNE JOURNAL GAZETTE. 28:34.045 --> 28:35.243 align:start I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 28:35.246 --> 28:35.444 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 28:35.447 --> 28:38.079 align:start SMITH. 28:38.082 --> 28:39.247 align:start ANN DELANEY, DOESN'T THE IHSAA 28:39.250 --> 28:43.084 align:start ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE 28:43.087 --> 28:44.186 align:start TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE? 28:44.189 --> 28:45.754 align:start DO THEY NOT? 28:45.757 --> 28:47.255 align:start >> THEY DO. 28:47.258 --> 28:47.790 align:start IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESS, AS A 28:47.793 --> 28:49.657 align:start MATTER OF FACT. 28:49.660 --> 28:52.160 align:start THIS ISN'T ABOUT FAIRNESS, IT'S 28:52.163 --> 28:53.328 align:start ABOUT HATRED. 28:53.331 --> 28:55.397 align:start I THINK REPRESENTATIVE TONYA 28:55.400 --> 28:57.933 align:start PFAFF SAID IT VERY WELL. 28:57.936 --> 28:58.133 align:start IT'S A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A 28:58.136 --> 29:00.469 align:start PROBLEM. 29:00.472 --> 29:01.036 align:start THEY COULDN'T EVEN POINT TO 29:01.039 --> 29:02.070 align:start SOMEONE DEFINITIVELY WHO FIT 29:02.073 --> 29:07.109 align:start INTO THIS CATEGORY. 29:07.112 --> 29:09.077 align:start AND THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE 29:09.080 --> 29:11.546 align:start HUNDREDS OF TEENAGE BOYS LINING 29:11.549 --> 29:12.547 align:start UP TO GET SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, 29:12.550 --> 29:15.283 align:start AND THE TRAUMA THAT THAT 29:15.286 --> 29:17.419 align:start CHANGE -- THE CHANGES THAT THAT 29:17.422 --> 29:18.954 align:start MEANS TO THEIR LIVES GOING 29:18.957 --> 29:20.655 align:start FORWARD, ALL TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL 29:20.658 --> 29:23.191 align:start BASKETBALL IS RIDICULOUS. 29:23.194 --> 29:26.361 align:start I MEAN, SHE IS SINGLING OUT 29:26.364 --> 29:27.729 align:start PEOPLE JUST TO SHOW THAT SHE IS, 29:27.732 --> 29:28.964 align:start AGAIN, FAR TO THE RIGHT, WHICH 29:28.967 --> 29:29.898 align:start IS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS 29:29.901 --> 29:32.501 align:start ON THIS. 29:32.504 --> 29:34.803 align:start AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE UNANIMOUS 29:34.806 --> 29:35.537 align:start ON OPPOSING THIS AS THEY SHOULD 29:35.540 --> 29:36.738 align:start BE. 29:36.741 --> 29:38.040 align:start BECAUSE IT DOES DISCRIMINATE. 29:38.043 --> 29:39.107 align:start AND BY THE WAY, IT ONLY 29:39.110 --> 29:40.809 align:start DISCRIMINATES ONE WAY, IT 29:40.812 --> 29:41.910 align:start DISCRIMINATES AGAINST BOYS WHO 29:41.913 --> 29:43.278 align:start HAVE THE SEX CHANGE OPERATION 29:43.281 --> 29:45.914 align:start BECOME GIRLS. 29:45.917 --> 29:47.216 align:start WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER? 29:47.219 --> 29:48.283 align:start THAT DOES OCCUR. 29:48.286 --> 29:51.286 align:start ARE WE GOING TO SAY IT IS OKAY 29:51.289 --> 29:53.555 align:start FOR THEM TO PLAY, OR ARE THEY 29:53.558 --> 29:55.156 align:start SAYING WOMEN AREN'T VERY GOOD AT 29:55.159 --> 29:57.893 align:start SPORTS ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T 29:57.896 --> 29:59.127 align:start MATTER IN THAT CONTEXT. 29:59.130 --> 30:01.864 align:start THE WHOLE BILL IS RIDICULOUS. 30:01.867 --> 30:02.931 align:start ALL IT DOES IS STIR UP THE 30:02.934 --> 30:05.066 align:start REPUBLICAN BASE TO HATE ANOTHER 30:05.069 --> 30:07.202 align:start GROUP OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE THEIR 30:07.205 --> 30:08.937 align:start PROBLEMS, AND HAVE THEIR 30:08.940 --> 30:10.872 align:start ADVERSITY TO FACE ON THEIR OWN 30:10.875 --> 30:12.407 align:start WITHOUT THIS ADDITIONAL BURDEN. 30:12.410 --> 30:13.442 align:start >> MIKE O'BRIEN, FAIRNESS AND 30:13.445 --> 30:17.412 align:start COMPETITION IS WHAT WE HEARD 30:17.415 --> 30:17.746 align:start FROM THE PROPONENTS OF THIS 30:17.749 --> 30:19.481 align:start BILL. 30:19.484 --> 30:22.150 align:start ARE YOU BUYING THAT? 30:22.153 --> 30:24.219 align:start >> FIRST, I DON'T THINK THIS IS 30:24.222 --> 30:26.988 align:start DRIVEN BY HATRED AT ALL. 30:26.991 --> 30:28.090 align:start I THINK IT IS DRIVEN BY 30:28.093 --> 30:29.824 align:start MISUNDERSTANDING, FEAR, CONCERN 30:29.827 --> 30:30.091 align:start FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME 30:30.094 --> 30:33.695 align:start SCHOOLS. 30:33.698 --> 30:34.963 align:start AND THE POLITICS OF THIS, ANN'S 30:34.966 --> 30:36.698 align:start WRONG, THIS ISN'T FAR RIGHT. 30:36.701 --> 30:40.769 align:start WHAT IS DRIVING THIS ARE 30:40.772 --> 30:43.438 align:start COMMUNITIES THAT ARE 30:43.441 --> 30:45.106 align:start TRADITIONALLY MODERATE, DRIVING 30:45.109 --> 30:47.509 align:start A LOT OF THE CONCERN HERE WHERE 30:47.512 --> 30:48.443 align:start YOU HAVE A VERY VOCAL 30:48.446 --> 30:50.479 align:start TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. 30:50.482 --> 30:52.614 align:start I THINK IF YOU WENT TO PLACES 30:52.617 --> 30:53.682 align:start THAT WE BELIEVE ARE 30:53.685 --> 30:59.354 align:start TRANSITIONING FROM A REPUBLICAN 30:59.357 --> 31:02.057 align:start TO A DEMOCRAT AREA, MAYBE PURPLE 31:02.060 --> 31:05.460 align:start AREAS, THE -- THEY WERE MAYBE, I 31:05.463 --> 31:08.296 align:start THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE 31:08.299 --> 31:10.065 align:start POLITICAL DIAGRAM OF THESE 31:10.068 --> 31:11.499 align:start PEOPLE, FOR GAY MARRIAGE AND 31:11.502 --> 31:12.734 align:start AGAINST TRANSGENDER ATHLETES. 31:12.737 --> 31:13.602 align:start IS THIS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF 31:13.605 --> 31:15.170 align:start A PROBLEM? 31:15.173 --> 31:16.071 align:start THERE IS NO EXAMPLES OF THIS 31:16.074 --> 31:18.073 align:start HERE. 31:18.076 --> 31:19.741 align:start I DO THINK REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS 31:19.744 --> 31:22.611 align:start IS CORRECT THAT WE'RE HEADING 31:22.614 --> 31:24.245 align:start THAT DIRECTION WHERE THIS IS 31:24.248 --> 31:27.182 align:start GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. 31:27.185 --> 31:27.382 align:start AGAIN, ANN, I STRUGGLE WITH 31:27.385 --> 31:33.589 align:start THIS. 31:33.592 --> 31:35.490 align:start I WAS WAY OUT IN FRONT ON THE 31:35.493 --> 31:36.991 align:start GAY MARRIAGE ISSUE, WORKED WITH 31:36.994 --> 31:39.594 align:start CHRIS PAULSEN IF YOU LOOK AT 31:39.597 --> 31:40.629 align:start PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT 31:40.632 --> 31:42.530 align:start HATEFUL, VERY REASONABLE AND 31:42.533 --> 31:44.099 align:start LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND SAY I 31:44.102 --> 31:46.068 align:start JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT YET. 31:46.071 --> 31:48.036 align:start >> YOU THINK THAT'S THE 31:48.039 --> 31:50.338 align:start MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR A SEX 31:50.341 --> 31:51.073 align:start CHANGE OPERATION, TO PLAY 31:51.076 --> 31:52.708 align:start SPORTS? 31:52.711 --> 31:54.509 align:start >> I THINK IF -- IT'S HARD 31:54.512 --> 31:55.510 align:start ENOUGH TO BE A TEENAGER, IF 31:55.513 --> 31:55.843 align:start YO'RE TRANSGENDER IT IS 31:55.846 --> 32:00.315 align:start IMPOSSIBLE. 32:00.318 --> 32:02.851 align:start IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH 32:02.854 --> 32:05.554 align:start THAT PROCESS, IT'S -- THAT'S A 32:05.557 --> 32:06.154 align:start MONUMENTAL THING IN YOUR LIFE, I 32:06.157 --> 32:07.255 align:start DON'T THINK PLAYING MEN'S 32:07.258 --> 32:07.622 align:start BASKETBALL IS THE NEXT THING ON 32:07.625 --> 32:09.157 align:start YOUR LIST. 32:09.160 --> 32:10.392 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, AS WE'VE HEARD 32:10.395 --> 32:12.260 align:start NOW, DEBATE IN THE COMMITTEE, 32:12.263 --> 32:13.628 align:start AND THEN ON THE FLOOR, ARE 32:13.631 --> 32:16.631 align:start REPUBLICANS WHO ARE PUSHING THIS 32:16.634 --> 32:18.466 align:start BILL DOING A GOOD JOB TO 32:18.469 --> 32:20.368 align:start INDICATING THIS IS -- THESE ARE 32:20.371 --> 32:20.568 align:start THE EXACT REASONS WHY WE NEED 32:20.571 --> 32:22.738 align:start IT? 32:22.741 --> 32:23.872 align:start >> WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE 32:23.875 --> 32:28.176 align:start FOCUSING ON ONE THING ONLY, 32:28.179 --> 32:30.545 align:start WHICH IS THEY'RE SAYING THERE IS 32:30.548 --> 32:33.415 align:start UNFAIR PERFORMANCE EDGES. 32:33.418 --> 32:35.417 align:start THAT SOMEONE WHO IS BORN A MALE, 32:35.420 --> 32:36.818 align:start HAS BETTER LUNG CAPACITY, 32:36.821 --> 32:37.719 align:start TALLER, MORE MUSCLE MASS, THINGS 32:37.722 --> 32:39.821 align:start LIKE THAT. 32:39.824 --> 32:40.722 align:start THEY'RE FOCUSING ON SORT OF THE 32:40.725 --> 32:44.159 align:start ADVANTAGES THAT THAT WOULD GIVE 32:44.162 --> 32:45.894 align:start IF THEY WOULD THEN TRANSITION TO 32:45.897 --> 32:47.262 align:start A FEMALE SPORT. 32:47.265 --> 32:49.064 align:start THE FASCINATING PART ABOUT MOST 32:49.067 --> 32:51.700 align:start OF IT, THERE ARE EXAMPLES OUT 32:51.703 --> 32:54.069 align:start THERE THAT CAUSE ISSUES, BUT 32:54.072 --> 32:55.103 align:start MOSTLY IN COLLEGIATE SPORTS, THE 32:55.106 --> 32:57.039 align:start BILL ORIGINALLY COVERED COLLEGE 32:57.042 --> 32:59.007 align:start SPORTS, THEY TOOK IT OUT WITHOUT 32:59.010 --> 33:02.077 align:start A WORD OF EXPLANATION. 33:02.080 --> 33:03.645 align:start I THINK WE CAN ALL SURMISE THAT 33:03.648 --> 33:05.647 align:start THE NCAA WAS PROBABLY NOT A FAN 33:05.650 --> 33:06.347 align:start OF IT. 33:06.350 --> 33:09.150 align:start THAT'S THE ARENA WHERE WE'RE 33:09.153 --> 33:11.720 align:start SEEING SOME OF THESE ISSUES 33:11.723 --> 33:14.122 align:start HAPPEN MORE THAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. 33:14.125 --> 33:15.590 align:start AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. 33:15.593 --> 33:15.791 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES -- WE'VE 33:15.794 --> 33:17.859 align:start SEEN -- 33:17.862 --> 33:20.061 align:start >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE IS 33:20.064 --> 33:20.295 align:start NOTHING FAIR, I'M SORRY, GO 33:20.298 --> 33:21.730 align:start AHEAD. 33:21.733 --> 33:24.599 align:start >> WE'VE SEEN OTHER BILLS LIKE 33:24.602 --> 33:26.601 align:start THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, SOME A 33:26.604 --> 33:28.103 align:start LOT STRICTER THAN THIS ONE. 33:28.106 --> 33:29.303 align:start A LOT OF THOSE BILLS HAVE 33:29.306 --> 33:32.474 align:start RECEIVED A LOT MORE NATIONAL 33:32.477 --> 33:34.075 align:start ATTENTION THAN I FEEL LIKE 33:34.078 --> 33:36.010 align:start INDIANA'S BILL IS GETTING. 33:36.013 --> 33:37.412 align:start NOT SAYING IT IS GETTING NO 33:37.415 --> 33:39.147 align:start ATTENTION, BUT CERTAINLY NOT ON 33:39.150 --> 33:43.251 align:start THE SCALE OF OTHER STATES. 33:43.254 --> 33:44.352 align:start WHY IS THIS ONE SORT OF FLYING 33:44.355 --> 33:46.087 align:start UNDER THE RADAR? 33:46.090 --> 33:47.956 align:start >> I THINK IF INDIANA HAD BEEN 33:47.959 --> 33:50.492 align:start THE FIRST STATE TO ADDRESS THIS 33:50.495 --> 33:51.926 align:start IN A LEGISLATIVE FASHION OR AT 33:51.929 --> 33:53.495 align:start LEAST THROUGH A PROPOSED 33:53.498 --> 33:55.363 align:start LEGISLATION, IT PROBABLY WOULD 33:55.366 --> 33:56.297 align:start HAVE BEEN A PROMINENT NATIONAL 33:56.300 --> 33:59.167 align:start STORY. 33:59.170 --> 34:00.335 align:start YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET IN 34:00.338 --> 34:01.736 align:start DISCUSSIONS OF WHY VARIOUS 34:01.739 --> 34:03.371 align:start EDITORIAL DECISIONS ARE MADE AND 34:03.374 --> 34:05.774 align:start WHAT CONSTITUTES NEWS. 34:05.777 --> 34:07.675 align:start AS EACH STATE WRESTLES WITH 34:07.678 --> 34:08.710 align:start THIS, IT PROBABLY BECOMES -- I'M 34:08.713 --> 34:10.078 align:start NOT SAYING IT IS ANY LESS 34:10.081 --> 34:12.514 align:start SIGNIFICANT TO THE PEOPLE 34:12.517 --> 34:15.250 align:start AFFECTED BY THE POTENTIAL LAW, 34:15.253 --> 34:17.619 align:start BUT IN TERMS OF IT BEING A 34:17.622 --> 34:19.654 align:start NATIONAL NEWS STORY, IT STARTS 34:19.657 --> 34:21.723 align:start TO DIMINISH A BIT. 34:21.726 --> 34:23.658 align:start AND I THINK IT'S MORE -- IF YOU 34:23.661 --> 34:25.326 align:start LOOK AT IT NARROWLY ABOUT THE 34:25.329 --> 34:28.997 align:start COVERAGE IT RECEIVED, IT IS MORE 34:29.000 --> 34:31.432 align:start ABOUT THAT PROBABLY THAN 34:31.435 --> 34:33.735 align:start ANYTHING MORE NUANCED ABOUT THE 34:33.738 --> 34:35.103 align:start FINE POINTS OF THE BILL HERE ARE 34:35.106 --> 34:37.272 align:start HOW IT'S BEING DEBATED. 34:37.275 --> 34:39.007 align:start >> I WANT TO JUST MAKE ONE 34:39.010 --> 34:40.508 align:start POINT, THERE IS NOTHING FAIR 34:40.511 --> 34:42.544 align:start ABOUT SPORTS RIGHT NOW. 34:42.547 --> 34:44.112 align:start IF YOUR PARENTS HAVE THE MONEY, 34:44.115 --> 34:45.981 align:start THEY PUT YOU ON A TRAVELING TEAM 34:45.984 --> 34:49.484 align:start AND TAKE YOU PLACES, PAY FOR 34:49.487 --> 34:50.919 align:start SUMMER CAMPS, YOU HAVE A 34:50.922 --> 34:52.821 align:start TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE OVER KIDS 34:52.824 --> 34:53.154 align:start WHOSE PARENTS DON'T HAVE THOSE 34:53.157 --> 34:53.788 align:start RESOURCES. 34:53.791 --> 34:55.557 align:start NOBODY IS WORRIED ABOUT THE 34:55.560 --> 34:57.225 align:start FAIRNESS OF THAT PART OF IT, 34:57.228 --> 34:57.492 align:start WHICH I FIND REALLY KIND OF 34:57.495 --> 34:59.327 align:start IRONIC 34:59.330 --> 35:00.962 align:start >> I AM SURPRISED THAT ANN MADE 35:00.965 --> 35:03.832 align:start THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE 35:03.835 --> 35:06.034 align:start BILL IS CRAFTED SO IT DEALS ONLY 35:06.037 --> 35:07.602 align:start WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ARE 35:07.605 --> 35:10.038 align:start BORN GENETICALLY BORN AS MALES, 35:10.041 --> 35:12.440 align:start AND ARE TRANSITIONING TO FEMALE. 35:12.443 --> 35:15.177 align:start IT DOES SEEM THAT IF IN FACT 35:15.180 --> 35:17.913 align:start THIS IS ALL ABOUT FAIRNESS, ONE 35:17.916 --> 35:19.214 align:start COULD ARGUE THAT THE BILL SHOULD 35:19.217 --> 35:24.285 align:start BE BROADENED, AT LEAST THE 35:24.288 --> 35:25.820 align:start LANGUAGE, TO SAY IF YOU'RE 35:25.823 --> 35:27.021 align:start COMPETING OUTSIDE THE SPORT 35:27.024 --> 35:27.189 align:start CLASSIFICATION IN WHICH YOU WERE 35:27.192 --> 35:30.058 align:start BORN. 35:30.061 --> 35:31.793 align:start I CAN SEE PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS 35:31.796 --> 35:35.397 align:start PICKING -- NARROWLY DEFINING THE 35:35.400 --> 35:35.530 align:start LAW IN A WAY IT SHOULDN'T BE. 35:35.533 --> 35:36.131 align:start >> 35:36.134 --> 35:36.598 align:start TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 35:36.601 --> 35:37.198 align:start EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 35:37.201 --> 35:38.133 align:start UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 35:38.136 --> 35:40.669 align:start QUESTION. 35:40.672 --> 35:42.070 align:start THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: 35:42.073 --> 35:42.703 align:start SHOULD TRANSGENDER STUDENTS BE 35:42.706 --> 35:44.706 align:start BANNED FROM PARTICIPATING IN 35:44.709 --> 35:47.675 align:start GIRLS' HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS? 35:47.678 --> 35:48.142 align:start A, YES, OR B, NO. 35:48.145 --> 35:48.676 align:start LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: 35:48.679 --> 35:50.078 align:start WILL THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 35:50.081 --> 35:53.815 align:start ELIMINATE INDIANA'S LICENSE 35:53.818 --> 35:54.082 align:start REQUIREMENT TO CARRY A HANDGUN 35:54.085 --> 35:56.818 align:start THIS YEAR? 35:56.821 --> 35:59.020 align:start THIS ONE WAS CLOSER THAN I WAS 35:59.023 --> 36:00.956 align:start EXPECTING, 44% YES, 56 NO. 36:00.959 --> 36:02.957 align:start I SUGGEST THE CHANCES ARE A LOT 36:02.960 --> 36:04.959 align:start HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT WE'LL FIND 36:04.962 --> 36:06.027 align:start OUT IN THE COMING WEEKS. 36:06.030 --> 36:07.328 align:start IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 36:07.331 --> 36:12.533 align:start IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 36:12.536 --> 36:13.468 align:start AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 36:13.471 --> 36:16.671 align:start CHANGES TO AN ELECTIONS BILL IN 36:16.674 --> 36:18.072 align:start A HOUSE COMMITTEE THIS WEEK WILL 36:18.075 --> 36:20.575 align:start MAKE IT HARDER FOR HOOSIERS TO 36:20.578 --> 36:21.977 align:start VOTE ABSENTEE BY MAIL. 36:21.980 --> 36:23.211 align:start >> THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE 36:23.214 --> 36:24.579 align:start APPROVED LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, IF 36:24.582 --> 36:26.080 align:start YOU WANT TO VOTE ABSENTEE BY 36:26.083 --> 36:28.383 align:start MAIL, YOU MUST ATTEST THAT YOU 36:28.386 --> 36:30.018 align:start WON'T BE AVAILABLE ON ELECTION 36:30.021 --> 36:30.652 align:start DAY OR - AND THIS IS THE NEW 36:30.655 --> 36:34.088 align:start PART - ANY TIME IN THE 28 DAYS 36:34.091 --> 36:35.790 align:start BEFORE THE ELECTION, WHEN EARLY 36:35.793 --> 36:36.891 align:start VOTING IS AVAILABLE. 36:36.894 --> 36:38.092 align:start REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE TIM 36:38.095 --> 36:38.793 align:start WESCO. 36:38.796 --> 36:41.429 align:start >> REP. TIM WESCO (R-OSCEOLA): I 36:41.432 --> 36:42.063 align:start BELIEVE THE BEST POLICY IS TO 36:42.066 --> 36:43.765 align:start ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE IN 36:43.768 --> 36:44.733 align:start PERSON, WHETHER ON ELECTION DAY 36:44.736 --> 36:45.000 align:start OR IN PERSON EARLY, AS MUCH AS 36:45.003 --> 36:46.200 align:start POSSIBLE. 36:46.203 --> 36:48.536 align:start >> DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE ED 36:48.539 --> 36:50.071 align:start DELANEY SAYS THAT PUTS A GREATER 36:50.074 --> 36:51.806 align:start BURDEN ON VOTERS, PARTICULARLY 36:51.809 --> 36:52.406 align:start IN COUNTIES WITH FEW EARLY 36:52.409 --> 36:53.041 align:start VOTING LOCATIONS. AND HE 36:53.044 --> 36:54.842 align:start QUESTIONED WHY THE CHANGE IS 36:54.845 --> 36:55.843 align:start NECESSARY. 36:55.846 --> 36:57.045 align:start >> REP. ED 36:57.048 --> 36:57.845 align:start DELANEY(D-INDIANAPOLIS): I THINK 36:57.848 --> 36:59.914 align:start THE ANSWER'S APPARENT. THE 36:59.917 --> 37:01.449 align:start ANSWER IS, WE WANT TO REDUCE THE 37:01.452 --> 37:03.918 align:start NUMBER OF VOTERS. WHY DON'T YOU 37:03.921 --> 37:05.553 align:start JUST SAY THAT. 37:05.556 --> 37:06.087 align:start >> THE BILL IS UP FOR PASSAGE IN 37:06.090 --> 37:08.490 align:start THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. 37:08.493 --> 37:09.090 align:start >> MIKE O'BRIEN, WHY NOT JUST 37:09.093 --> 37:12.761 align:start GET RID OF ABSENTEE MAIL-IN 37:12.764 --> 37:16.831 align:start VOTING ENTIRELY? 37:16.834 --> 37:20.101 align:start I'M NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE 37:20.104 --> 37:22.070 align:start ELECTION DAY OR 28 DAYS BEFORE. 37:22.073 --> 37:25.974 align:start >> I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS A 37:25.977 --> 37:28.476 align:start WEIRD DEAL, THIS -- BECAUSE I 37:28.479 --> 37:29.644 align:start ALWAYS VOTED ABSENTEE, OR VOTE 37:29.647 --> 37:31.246 align:start IN PERSON EARLY. 37:31.249 --> 37:31.713 align:start I WAS NEVER AVAILABLE ON 37:31.716 --> 37:33.782 align:start ELECTION DAY. 37:33.785 --> 37:35.416 align:start I WAS ALWAYS WORKING ELECTIONS, 37:35.419 --> 37:38.053 align:start MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THE EASY WAY 37:38.056 --> 37:40.321 align:start OUT HERE AND -- NOW I CAN'T 37:40.324 --> 37:42.090 align:start ANYMORE WITHOUT JUST STRAIGHT UP 37:42.093 --> 37:45.460 align:start BEING -- VIOLATING THE SPIRIT OF 37:45.463 --> 37:46.728 align:start THE LAW BEFORE. 37:46.731 --> 37:49.564 align:start THE ACTUALLY LETTER. 37:49.567 --> 37:50.631 align:start THAT WAS THE POINT BEFORE, BEING 37:50.634 --> 37:51.399 align:start UNAVAILABLE WHEN GIVEN THE 37:51.402 --> 37:52.667 align:start OPPORTUNITY IN PERSON. 37:52.670 --> 37:54.835 align:start I'M A TRADITIONALIST, I 37:54.838 --> 37:57.338 align:start THINK -- I WOULD THINK WE MADE 37:57.341 --> 37:58.339 align:start IT WIDELY AND WILDLY AVAILABLE 37:58.342 --> 38:01.108 align:start VOTING IN THE LAST 20 YEARS IN 38:01.111 --> 38:02.176 align:start THIS STATE, CONTRARY TO WHAT 38:02.179 --> 38:04.479 align:start DEMOCRATS THINK, WHETHER VOTE 38:04.482 --> 38:06.547 align:start CENTERS OR SATELLITE VOTING, 38:06.550 --> 38:08.082 align:start EARLY VOTING FOR 30 DAYS, OR 38:08.085 --> 38:10.017 align:start VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, WHICH IS 38:10.020 --> 38:12.286 align:start WHAT WE DID TO START, IT WASN'T 38:12.289 --> 38:13.755 align:start THAT LONG AGO THAT WE DID THAT. 38:13.758 --> 38:16.290 align:start VAST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THIS 38:16.293 --> 38:19.694 align:start STATE. 38:19.697 --> 38:20.895 align:start FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE SOME 38:20.898 --> 38:22.630 align:start IDEOLOGICAL RIGID -- AS TIM 38:22.633 --> 38:24.432 align:start WESCO SAID, WE HAVE BEEN LIVING 38:24.435 --> 38:25.700 align:start ON THE HONOR SYSTEM FOREVER, I 38:25.703 --> 38:28.036 align:start THINK IT HAS WORKED. 38:28.039 --> 38:29.637 align:start BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR OWN 38:29.640 --> 38:32.373 align:start OPERATIONS THAT RECRUIT THEIR 38:32.376 --> 38:32.840 align:start OWN VOTERS TO VOTE ABSENTEE AND 38:32.843 --> 38:35.443 align:start VOTE EARLY. 38:35.446 --> 38:36.911 align:start SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT, 38:36.914 --> 38:39.647 align:start THEY'RE TRADITIONALISTS WHO WANT 38:39.650 --> 38:40.782 align:start VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, THE 38:40.785 --> 38:43.251 align:start ELECTION OSTENSIBLY ENDS 30 DAYS 38:43.254 --> 38:44.685 align:start BEFORE ELECTION DAY FOR A LOT OF 38:44.688 --> 38:45.787 align:start PEOPLE, CAMPAIGNS DON'T LIKE 38:45.790 --> 38:46.921 align:start THAT, CANDIDATES DON'T LIKE 38:46.924 --> 38:48.322 align:start THAT, THE ENVIRONMENT CAN 38:48.325 --> 38:49.156 align:start CHANGE, THIS AND THAT. 38:49.159 --> 38:51.092 align:start I DON'T THINK THIS WAS 38:51.095 --> 38:52.660 align:start NECESSARILY BROKEN IN INDIANA. 38:52.663 --> 38:55.797 align:start BUT I DO THINK CONTRARY TO WHAT 38:55.800 --> 38:58.033 align:start DEMOCRATS THINK, WE HAVE MADE IT 38:58.036 --> 39:01.602 align:start MUCH EASIER TO VOTE IN INDIANA 39:01.605 --> 39:02.804 align:start OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. 39:02.807 --> 39:08.543 align:start >> [LAUGHTER] HOLD THAT THOUGHT. 39:08.546 --> 39:10.078 align:start >> I KNOW YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT 39:10.081 --> 39:11.779 align:start MIKE SAID. 39:11.782 --> 39:16.284 align:start TIM WESCO REFERENCED. 39:16.287 --> 39:17.285 align:start INDIANA DOES THIS ABSENTEE 39:17.288 --> 39:18.820 align:start VOTING LARGELY ON THE -- NOBODY 39:18.823 --> 39:23.291 align:start IS CHECKING THIS. 39:23.294 --> 39:24.025 align:start IS THIS REALLY GOING TO AFFECT 39:24.028 --> 39:26.494 align:start HOW VOTERS VOTE? 39:26.497 --> 39:28.563 align:start >> WELL, YOU COULD HAVE A 39:28.566 --> 39:31.433 align:start SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY FINDS 39:31.436 --> 39:33.801 align:start OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO SENT IN 39:33.804 --> 39:35.570 align:start AN ABSENTEE BALLOT WAS PRESENT 39:35.573 --> 39:35.837 align:start AND HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST THAT 39:35.840 --> 39:37.305 align:start PERSON. 39:37.308 --> 39:39.140 align:start THERE ARE CRIMINALS -- IF YOU 39:39.143 --> 39:41.142 align:start CHANGE YOUR MIND OR YOU THINK 39:41.145 --> 39:42.510 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, OR YOU 39:42.513 --> 39:45.313 align:start THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE GONE 39:45.316 --> 39:45.980 align:start AND YOU'RE HERE, THERE ARE ALL 39:45.983 --> 39:47.448 align:start KINDS OF THINGS WHERE SOMEBODY 39:47.451 --> 39:48.516 align:start COULD MAKE TROUBLE BASED ON A 39:48.519 --> 39:50.051 align:start CRIMINAL PROSECUTION NOW, THE 39:50.054 --> 39:51.653 align:start HONOR SYSTEM APPARENTLY IS NO 39:51.656 --> 39:52.420 align:start LONGER GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS 39:52.423 --> 39:54.489 align:start STATE REPRESENTATIVE. 39:54.492 --> 39:56.390 align:start HE WANTS CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. 39:56.393 --> 39:58.459 align:start BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS 39:58.462 --> 40:00.528 align:start CAME OUT THE SAME WEEK THAT THE 40:00.531 --> 40:02.463 align:start CIVIC HEALTH INDEX CAME OUT, AND 40:02.466 --> 40:05.433 align:start INDIANA, DESPITE WHAT MIKE SAID, 40:05.436 --> 40:07.635 align:start HAS GONE FROM BEING 41st IN THE 40:07.638 --> 40:09.370 align:start STATE -- AMONG THE STATES TO 40:09.373 --> 40:11.706 align:start 46th IN THE STATE. 40:11.709 --> 40:14.075 align:start YEARS AGO, YEARS AGO, WE WERE IN 40:14.078 --> 40:16.177 align:start THE TOP 10 IN TERMS OF TURNOUT. 40:16.180 --> 40:17.378 align:start NOW, NOT ONLY THE BOTTOM 10, 40:17.381 --> 40:18.847 align:start WE'RE IN THE BOTTOM 5. 40:18.850 --> 40:20.482 align:start SO WE HAVE NOT MADE IT EASIER 40:20.485 --> 40:22.217 align:start FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE. 40:22.220 --> 40:25.286 align:start WE HAVE PUT REPEATED OBSTACLES 40:25.289 --> 40:28.423 align:start IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE VOTING. 40:28.426 --> 40:30.058 align:start >> THOSE STATS DON'T MATTER. 40:30.061 --> 40:31.425 align:start >> PARENTS DON'T -- REPUBLICANS 40:31.428 --> 40:33.061 align:start DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO VOTE. 40:33.064 --> 40:34.028 align:start >> WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR 40:34.031 --> 40:37.065 align:start IN VOTER MOTIVATION? 40:37.068 --> 40:39.567 align:start >> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 40:39.570 --> 40:40.501 align:start AND THE CIVIC HEALTH INDEX 40:40.504 --> 40:40.868 align:start ITSELF SHOWS HOW MUCH WE'VE 40:40.871 --> 40:42.504 align:start SLIPPED. 40:42.507 --> 40:44.072 align:start >> I THINK IT SHOWS HOW WE HAVE 40:44.075 --> 40:44.906 align:start NO COMPETITIVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 40:44.909 --> 40:46.674 align:start IN INDIANA. 40:46.677 --> 40:50.912 align:start BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO 40:50.915 --> 40:53.581 align:start GO VOTE IS BECAUSE IT'S 40:53.584 --> 40:54.014 align:start COMPETITIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF 40:54.017 --> 40:54.916 align:start GERRYMANDERING. 40:54.919 --> 40:55.316 align:start >> IT IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF 40:55.319 --> 41:01.222 align:start GERRYMANDERING. 41:01.225 --> 41:01.489 align:start THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO 41:01.492 --> 41:03.824 align:start COMPETITION. 41:03.827 --> 41:03.992 align:start BECAUSE YOU GERRYMANDERED IT SO 41:03.995 --> 41:05.660 align:start WELL. 41:05.663 --> 41:05.826 align:start >> YOU'RE A THIRD PLACE PARTY, 41:05.829 --> 41:08.262 align:start ANN. 41:08.265 --> 41:08.630 align:start WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER 41:08.633 --> 41:10.064 align:start CONSERVATIVES 41:10.067 --> 41:12.200 align:start >> YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU 41:12.203 --> 41:13.434 align:start WOULD BE HAPPY ENOUGH THAT THE 41:13.437 --> 41:14.903 align:start GERRYMANDERING RESULTS THAT YOU 41:14.906 --> 41:16.070 align:start WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RESTRICT 41:16.073 --> 41:18.739 align:start REGISTRATION AND VOTING, BUT 41:18.742 --> 41:22.410 align:start THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS. 41:22.413 --> 41:23.978 align:start >> YOU'RE JUST ABSURD. 41:23.981 --> 41:26.080 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, DO YOU FEEL 41:26.083 --> 41:27.682 align:start LIKE THIS IS -- I FEEL LIKE I'M 41:27.685 --> 41:29.283 align:start ASKING A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT I 41:29.286 --> 41:33.688 align:start ASKED ON THE LAST TOPIC. 41:33.691 --> 41:34.021 align:start WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THIS 41:34.024 --> 41:35.557 align:start LEGISLATION? 41:35.560 --> 41:38.125 align:start >> PROBABLY NO NEED. 41:38.128 --> 41:38.560 align:start THE MOTIVATION, I THINK, IS CUT 41:38.563 --> 41:40.861 align:start AND DRIED. 41:40.864 --> 41:41.062 align:start REPUBLICANS WANT FEWER PEOPLE TO 41:41.065 --> 41:43.665 align:start VOTE. 41:43.668 --> 41:47.501 align:start THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 41:47.504 --> 41:50.605 align:start LET'S NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. 41:50.608 --> 41:52.339 align:start IT'S -- I AGREE WITH MIKE THAT 41:52.342 --> 41:53.374 align:start IDEALLY WE'D ALL -- I LOVE THE 41:53.377 --> 41:54.542 align:start TRADITION OF EVERYBODY GOING TO 41:54.545 --> 41:56.677 align:start THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. 41:56.680 --> 41:57.878 align:start IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A 41:57.881 --> 42:00.648 align:start BIPARTISAN COMMISSION, FEDERAL 42:00.651 --> 42:05.186 align:start COMMISSION, I THINK IT WAS 42:05.189 --> 42:09.223 align:start CO-CHAIRED MAYBE BY GERALD FORD 42:09.226 --> 42:10.625 align:start AND JIMMY CARTER, LET'S MAKE 42:10.628 --> 42:11.693 align:start THIS SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT 42:11.696 --> 42:13.428 align:start EVERYBODY WORKS TOGETHER. 42:13.431 --> 42:14.428 align:start I WOULD LOVE THAT, WE DON'T LIVE 42:14.431 --> 42:18.065 align:start IN LA LA LAND. 42:18.068 --> 42:19.367 align:start SEEMS TO ME, WELL, WE CAN DEBATE 42:19.370 --> 42:20.901 align:start THE VOTER SECURITY. 42:20.904 --> 42:22.737 align:start BUT WE CAN'T DEBATE THE 42:22.740 --> 42:23.938 align:start MOTIVATION HERE, WHICH IS TO 42:23.941 --> 42:24.272 align:start REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 42:24.275 --> 42:26.540 align:start VOTING. 42:26.543 --> 42:31.846 align:start THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR. 42:31.849 --> 42:34.081 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, TIM WESCO KIND OF 42:34.084 --> 42:36.517 align:start INDIRECTLY CAST SOME DOUBT ON 42:36.520 --> 42:38.052 align:start THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF 42:38.055 --> 42:38.286 align:start MAIL-IN VOTING DURING THAT HOUSE 42:38.289 --> 42:40.021 align:start COMMITTEE. 42:40.024 --> 42:40.888 align:start IS THERE ANY WIDE EVIDENCE OF 42:40.891 --> 42:43.124 align:start WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD WHEN IT 42:43.127 --> 42:44.725 align:start COMES TO MAIL-IN VOTING. 42:44.728 --> 42:46.193 align:start WE HAVE STATES WHO FOR TWO 42:46.196 --> 42:47.762 align:start DECADES HAVE BEEN DOING 42:47.765 --> 42:50.064 align:start EXCLUSIVELY MAIL-IN VOTING? 42:50.067 --> 42:52.033 align:start >> NO, THERE ISN'T. 42:52.036 --> 42:53.301 align:start SURE, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND AN 42:53.304 --> 42:53.567 align:start OCCASIONAL INSTANCE HERE OR 42:53.570 --> 42:54.134 align:start THERE. 42:54.137 --> 42:55.703 align:start SOMETIMES IT IS ON THE 42:55.706 --> 42:56.504 align:start REPUBLICAN SIDE AND SOMETIMES ON 42:56.507 --> 42:58.072 align:start THE DEMOCRAT SIDE. 42:58.075 --> 43:00.107 align:start ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE WITH 43:00.110 --> 43:02.009 align:start THIS WHOLE NOTION OF THE ENTIRE 43:02.012 --> 43:02.843 align:start MONTH BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE. 43:02.846 --> 43:05.313 align:start THIS 28 DAYS THING. 43:05.316 --> 43:07.348 align:start FOR A LOT OF COUNTIES, THOUGH, 43:07.351 --> 43:07.715 align:start THAT -- YOU CAN'T VOTE ALL 28 43:07.718 --> 43:10.051 align:start DAYS. 43:10.054 --> 43:11.352 align:start A LOT OF COUNTIES JUST HAVE 43:11.355 --> 43:12.420 align:start SATURDAY VOTING. 43:12.423 --> 43:13.788 align:start REALLY THAT'S FOUR ADDITIONAL 43:13.791 --> 43:14.789 align:start DAYS YOU CAN VOTE. 43:14.792 --> 43:17.391 align:start NOT 28. 43:17.394 --> 43:19.026 align:start SO REALLY IS A WIDE VARIETY, 43:19.029 --> 43:19.393 align:start DEPENDING WHERE YOU LIVE. 43:19.396 --> 43:21.729 align:start >> YEAH. 43:21.732 --> 43:23.131 align:start NOT JUST WHAT DAYS, EVEN WHAT 43:23.134 --> 43:27.001 align:start HOURS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 43:27.004 --> 43:27.268 align:start SOME DAYS IT'S FOUR HOURS IN THE 43:27.271 --> 43:30.071 align:start MORNING. 43:30.074 --> 43:31.673 align:start >> WE SHOULD PROBABLY POINT OUT 43:31.676 --> 43:34.075 align:start DONALD TRUMP RELIED ON MAIL-IN 43:34.078 --> 43:36.544 align:start VOTING MOST OF HIS LIFE, 43:36.547 --> 43:39.947 align:start CERTAINLY IN THE LAST ELECTION. 43:39.950 --> 43:41.616 align:start >> PROBABLY CORRUPT 43:41.619 --> 43:42.350 align:start >> THE INDIANA HOUSE APPROVED A 43:42.353 --> 43:42.817 align:start CONTROVERSIAL SCHOOL CONTENT AND 43:42.820 --> 43:44.819 align:start CURRICULUM BILL THIS WEEK. 43:44.822 --> 43:45.420 align:start INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S 43:45.423 --> 43:46.020 align:start JEANIE LINDSAY REPORTS, 43:46.023 --> 43:46.954 align:start LAWMAKERS PASSED THE MEASURE 43:46.957 --> 43:48.022 align:start AFTER MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A 43:48.025 --> 43:49.223 align:start PHALF OF DISCUSSION ON THE HOUS 43:49.226 --> 43:51.625 align:start FLOOR. 43:51.628 --> 43:54.061 align:start >> LAWMAKERS MADE A FEW CHANGES 43:54.064 --> 43:55.696 align:start TO HOUSE BILL 1134 BEFORE THE 43:55.699 --> 43:58.032 align:start HOUSE APPROVED IT. BILL AUTHOR 43:58.035 --> 43:59.633 align:start REP. TONY COOK SAYS THEY AIM TO 43:59.636 --> 44:02.036 align:start ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT THE BILL 44:02.039 --> 44:02.703 align:start WOULD ADD ONTO SCHOOLS' 44:02.706 --> 44:04.705 align:start WORKLOADS OR PREVENT TEACHERS 44:04.708 --> 44:05.907 align:start FROM CONDEMNING RACISM. BUT 44:05.910 --> 44:08.576 align:start CONCERNS PERSISTED FROM SOME 44:08.579 --> 44:09.210 align:start LAWMAKERS, LIKE REPRESENTATIVE 44:09.213 --> 44:10.077 align:start CAROLYN JACKSON, ABOUT HOW THE 44:10.080 --> 44:12.547 align:start OVERALL LEGISLATION COULD IMPACT 44:12.550 --> 44:12.980 align:start SCHOOLS - ESPECIALLY AS THE 44:12.983 --> 44:14.081 align:start PANDEMIC CONTINUES. 44:14.084 --> 44:18.052 align:start >> REP. CAROLYN JACKSON 44:18.055 --> 44:19.387 align:start (D-HAMMOND): I THINK WE NEED TO 44:19.390 --> 44:22.056 align:start STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE 44:22.059 --> 44:22.657 align:start SITUATION BEFORE WE CREATE 44:22.660 --> 44:24.925 align:start ANOTHER OBSTACLE AND FALL ON OUR 44:24.928 --> 44:28.429 align:start FACE. 44:28.432 --> 44:29.030 align:start >> MANY LAWMAKERS OPPOSED TO THE 44:29.033 --> 44:30.164 align:start BILL WORRY IT COULD REDUCE THE 44:30.167 --> 44:31.499 align:start NUMBER OF TEACHERS WILLING TO 44:31.502 --> 44:36.570 align:start WORK IN THE STATE. THE HOUSE 44:36.573 --> 44:39.774 align:start APPROVED THE LEGISLATION 60 TO 44:39.777 --> 44:41.042 align:start 37. IT NOW HEADS TO THE SENATE. 44:41.045 --> 44:42.443 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, BEFORE THEY 44:42.446 --> 44:44.178 align:start PASSED THE BILL OVER TO THE 44:44.181 --> 44:45.246 align:start SENATE, THEY CHANGED THE BILL IN 44:45.249 --> 44:48.215 align:start A NINE-PAGE AMENDMENT. 44:48.218 --> 44:50.084 align:start ANY TIME YOU HAVE A NINE-PAGE 44:50.087 --> 44:54.088 align:start AMENDMENT TO A PIECE OF 44:54.091 --> 44:57.691 align:start LEGISLATION, THAT'S A GOOD BILL. 44:57.694 --> 45:00.795 align:start CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF THE 45:00.798 --> 45:06.066 align:start CHANGES TO THE BILL? 45:06.069 --> 45:10.070 align:start >> MOST WERE TWEAKING, IT LIMITS 45:10.073 --> 45:11.539 align:start THE DAMAGES, IT WAS TEACHERS 45:11.542 --> 45:12.706 align:start HAVING TO POST CURRICULUM, IF 45:12.709 --> 45:14.275 align:start THEY STUMBLED UPON AN ARTICLE 45:14.278 --> 45:16.410 align:start THE NIGHT BEFORE, DO THEY HAVE 45:16.413 --> 45:19.246 align:start TO RUN IMMEDIATELY AND POST IT 45:19.249 --> 45:20.314 align:start BEFORE CLASS, OR WILL THEY BE IN 45:20.317 --> 45:22.617 align:start VIOLATION OF THE LAW? 45:22.620 --> 45:24.585 align:start THEY BACKED THAT DOWN A LITTLE 45:24.588 --> 45:26.053 align:start TO BE A LITTLE LESS, I GUESS, 45:26.056 --> 45:27.721 align:start ONEROUS, ON THAT SIDE. 45:27.724 --> 45:29.123 align:start BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND 45:29.126 --> 45:30.724 align:start PURPOSES, IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE 45:30.727 --> 45:31.259 align:start SAME BILL IT'S BEEN THE WHOLE 45:31.262 --> 45:33.560 align:start TIME. 45:33.563 --> 45:35.329 align:start THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN 45:35.332 --> 45:38.566 align:start CHANGING THE DIVISIVE CONCEPT 45:38.569 --> 45:39.967 align:start LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, WHICH IS 45:39.970 --> 45:40.668 align:start THE WHOLE REASON THERE IS 45:40.671 --> 45:43.103 align:start DIVISION ON THE BILL. 45:43.106 --> 45:44.438 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, TO THAT END, 45:44.441 --> 45:45.406 align:start THE SENATE KILLED OFF ITS 45:45.409 --> 45:48.108 align:start VERSION OF THIS MEASURE. 45:48.111 --> 45:48.443 align:start IT SAID THERE WAS NO PATH 45:48.446 --> 45:49.676 align:start FORWARD. 45:49.679 --> 45:51.612 align:start THAT'S WHAT THE VERY BRIEF 4:00 45:51.615 --> 45:53.147 align:start P.M. ON A FRIDAY STATEMENT SAID. 45:53.150 --> 45:55.349 align:start IF THERE IS NO PATH FORWARD ON 45:55.352 --> 45:57.218 align:start THAT BILL, WHY WOULD THERE BE A 45:57.221 --> 45:59.253 align:start PATH FORWARD ON THIS BILL? 45:59.256 --> 46:01.755 align:start >> THIS ASSUMES THERE IS. 46:01.758 --> 46:04.592 align:start I MEAN, I THINK THE SENATE CAN 46:04.595 --> 46:06.427 align:start MAYBE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE HERE. 46:06.430 --> 46:07.361 align:start I THINK THERE IS CLEARLY 46:07.364 --> 46:08.462 align:start ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT. 46:08.465 --> 46:09.797 align:start VARIOUS BILLS HAVE BEEN 46:09.800 --> 46:11.765 align:start INTRODUCED, SOME DEAL WITH 46:11.768 --> 46:13.167 align:start NARROW PORTIONS OF THIS WHOLE 46:13.170 --> 46:15.769 align:start REFORM PACKAGE WITH PARENTAL 46:15.772 --> 46:16.704 align:start INVOLVEMENT AND PARENTAL INPUT. 46:16.707 --> 46:18.739 align:start OTHERS ARE MUCH BROADER. 46:18.742 --> 46:21.842 align:start SO WHAT I THINK WE COULD SEE 46:21.845 --> 46:24.412 align:start COME OUT OF THIS IS ATTEMPTS AT 46:24.415 --> 46:25.680 align:start MORE TRANSPARENCY. 46:25.683 --> 46:29.717 align:start FORMALIZED POSTING OF COURSE 46:29.720 --> 46:30.084 align:start LESSONS AND COURSE MATERIALS, 46:30.087 --> 46:32.286 align:start CURRICULA. 46:32.289 --> 46:33.020 align:start AND INVOLVEMENT, MANDATORY 46:33.023 --> 46:34.254 align:start INVOLVEMENT OF THE PUBLIC AND 46:34.257 --> 46:36.590 align:start SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS IN TERMS 46:36.593 --> 46:42.596 align:start OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A 46:42.599 --> 46:44.098 align:start SAY WITHOUT IMPOSING VERY 46:44.101 --> 46:46.100 align:start SPECIFIC BUT STILL SUBJECT TO 46:46.103 --> 46:48.569 align:start DEBATE GUIDELINES ABOUT WHAT CAN 46:48.572 --> 46:50.705 align:start BE TAUGHT OR THE REVIEW PROCESS. 46:50.708 --> 46:52.539 align:start BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON 46:52.542 --> 46:55.376 align:start SOCIAL STUDIES, AND LANGUAGE 46:55.379 --> 46:55.610 align:start ARTS IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT 46:55.613 --> 46:58.078 align:start WAY. 46:58.081 --> 47:04.318 align:start IF YOU PUT THE WHOLE CURRICULA 47:04.321 --> 47:05.553 align:start TO AN ADVISORY PANEL, I CAN SEE 47:05.556 --> 47:05.920 align:start CREATIONISM VERSUS EVOLUTION 47:05.923 --> 47:07.821 align:start CREEPING IN. 47:07.824 --> 47:09.423 align:start I CAN SEE WHEN YOU HAVE A 47:09.426 --> 47:10.758 align:start PERSONAL FINANCE CLASS AND 47:10.761 --> 47:12.627 align:start STUDENTS ARE GIVEN A FAKE POT OF 47:12.630 --> 47:14.094 align:start MONEY TO LEARN HOW TO INVEST IN 47:14.097 --> 47:16.430 align:start THE STOCK MARKET, THERE ARE 47:16.433 --> 47:18.098 align:start PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU ARE CREATING 47:18.101 --> 47:19.099 align:start A BUNCH OF CUTTHROAT CAPITALISTS 47:19.102 --> 47:21.903 align:start WITH NO HEART. 47:21.906 --> 47:23.571 align:start THIS WHOLE THING POTENTIALLY, 47:23.574 --> 47:25.306 align:start THAT'S A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION 47:25.309 --> 47:28.075 align:start IN TERMS OF REALITY. 47:28.078 --> 47:30.544 align:start IT DOES SEEM THAT CRITICS ARE 47:30.547 --> 47:32.413 align:start WORRIED A LOT ABOUT GRIDLOCK 47:32.416 --> 47:36.183 align:start HERE, AND THE BURDEN THAT WOULD 47:36.186 --> 47:37.518 align:start BE CREATED BY THIS MULTI-LAYERED 47:37.521 --> 47:38.719 align:start APPROACH TO CURRICULUM APPROVAL. 47:38.722 --> 47:41.055 align:start >> MIKE O'BRIEN, IF THE SENATE 47:41.058 --> 47:42.456 align:start TOOK OUT THE DIVISIVE CONCEPTS 47:42.459 --> 47:43.591 align:start LANGUAGE AND WE WERE LEFT WITH A 47:43.594 --> 47:44.759 align:start LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM 47:44.762 --> 47:48.529 align:start TEACHERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY 47:48.532 --> 47:50.030 align:start HAVE TO POST ONLINE AND THESE 47:50.033 --> 47:51.331 align:start PARENT -- THESE CURRICULUM 47:51.334 --> 47:53.667 align:start COMMITTEES THAT PARENTS WOULD 47:53.670 --> 47:55.469 align:start PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN AT THE 47:55.472 --> 47:57.304 align:start SCHOOL BOARD AND DISTRICT LEVEL. 47:57.307 --> 48:00.407 align:start IF THAT'S ALL THE BILL WAS LEFT 48:00.410 --> 48:01.108 align:start WITH, DOES THIS HAVE IS A MUCH 48:01.111 --> 48:02.009 align:start EASIER PATH FORWARD? 48:02.012 --> 48:04.178 align:start >> PROBABLY. 48:04.181 --> 48:05.980 align:start BUT I THINK THE GOAL NEEDS TO BE 48:05.983 --> 48:06.447 align:start TRANSPARENCY AND NOT CONTROL FOR 48:06.450 --> 48:08.549 align:start PARENTS. 48:08.552 --> 48:09.183 align:start AND TAKE THIS OFF THE TEACHER'S 48:09.186 --> 48:11.118 align:start PLATE ENTIRELY. 48:11.121 --> 48:14.154 align:start MOVE THIS ENTIRELY TO A SCHOOL 48:14.157 --> 48:15.723 align:start BOARD, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF 48:15.726 --> 48:15.989 align:start PARENTAL COMMITTEE ADVISORY 48:15.992 --> 48:18.692 align:start ROLE. 48:18.695 --> 48:21.729 align:start BUT WHERE ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE 48:21.732 --> 48:22.062 align:start ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS 48:22.065 --> 48:23.731 align:start ULTIMATELY. 48:23.734 --> 48:24.798 align:start LET THEM POST WHAT -- LET THEM 48:24.801 --> 48:27.101 align:start DIRECT THE CORPORATION POST WHAT 48:27.104 --> 48:30.070 align:start THEY WANT TO POST IN THE LEAST 48:30.073 --> 48:32.373 align:start ONEROUS WAY POSSIBLE. 48:32.376 --> 48:34.508 align:start PUTTING TEACHERS IN THIS 48:34.511 --> 48:36.577 align:start SITUATION, THEY AREN'T PREPPING 48:36.580 --> 48:43.484 align:start MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY ARE 48:43.487 --> 48:45.486 align:start PREPPING THE NIGHT BEFORE, 11:00 48:45.489 --> 48:49.023 align:start OR 12:00 AT NIGHT, ONCE THEY GET 48:49.026 --> 48:51.959 align:start THEIR OWN KIDS TO BED. 48:51.962 --> 48:52.359 align:start THIS HAS GOT TO BE ON 48:52.362 --> 48:54.561 align:start TRANSPARENCY. 48:54.564 --> 48:56.463 align:start THE ONEROUS HAS GOT TO BE ON THE 48:56.466 --> 48:58.065 align:start PARENTS TO DO THE WORK TO GO ASK 48:58.068 --> 49:00.000 align:start THOSE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF THEM 49:00.003 --> 49:02.036 align:start ARE DOING THAT. 49:02.039 --> 49:04.538 align:start THEY'RE DOING IT IN A PRETTY 49:04.541 --> 49:05.873 align:start HOSTILE WAY, I WISH IT WAS MORE 49:05.876 --> 49:07.608 align:start THOUGHTFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE. 49:07.611 --> 49:08.409 align:start TO PUT THIS ON TEACHER'S PLATE 49:08.412 --> 49:09.610 align:start IS TOO MUCH. 49:09.613 --> 49:11.879 align:start >> ANN DeLANEY, TO WHAT MIKE 49:11.882 --> 49:13.113 align:start JUST TALKED ABOUT, IF THE SENATE 49:13.116 --> 49:15.482 align:start CANGES THE BILL TO BE WHAT MIKE 49:15.485 --> 49:20.087 align:start JUST INDICATED, TAKING IT OFF 49:20.090 --> 49:22.757 align:start THE TEACHERS, FOCUSING ON 49:22.760 --> 49:24.091 align:start TRANSPARENCY, IS THAT A GOOD 49:24.094 --> 49:27.161 align:start PIECE OF LEGISLATION? 49:27.164 --> 49:27.527 align:start >> CERTAINLY BETTER PIECE OF 49:27.530 --> 49:29.697 align:start LEGISLATION. 49:29.700 --> 49:31.832 align:start THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 49:31.835 --> 49:33.701 align:start HAVE THOUGHT CONTROL, AN EQUAL 49:33.704 --> 49:35.102 align:start APPROACH TO ANY ISSUE NO MATTER 49:35.105 --> 49:38.005 align:start HOW HORRIFIC THAT HAS BEEN IN 49:38.008 --> 49:38.272 align:start THE PAST HISTORY OF THE WORLD IS 49:38.275 --> 49:40.541 align:start RIDICULOUS. 49:40.544 --> 49:44.745 align:start I AGREE WITH MIKE. 49:44.748 --> 49:45.246 align:start WE'VE PUT ENOUGH BURDEN ON 49:45.249 --> 49:47.448 align:start TEACHERS. 49:47.451 --> 49:48.048 align:start IT IS ALREADY A DIFFICULT ENOUGH 49:48.051 --> 49:49.283 align:start PROFESSION, MADE MUCH MORE 49:49.286 --> 49:51.452 align:start DIFFICULT BY THE PANDEMIC, NOW 49:51.455 --> 49:52.553 align:start WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER 49:52.556 --> 49:56.991 align:start ON THAT, IT'S CRAZY. 49:56.994 --> 49:57.858 align:start IF PARENTS WANT TO HAVE A 49:57.861 --> 49:59.126 align:start CURRICULUM ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN 49:59.129 --> 50:00.794 align:start THEIR DISTRICT WHERE THEY CAN 50:00.797 --> 50:02.129 align:start DISCUSS A TIME, PARENTS CAN 50:02.132 --> 50:06.066 align:start ALREADY PICK UP THE TEXTBOOK, 50:06.069 --> 50:08.735 align:start THEY CAN ALREADY TALK TO THE 50:08.738 --> 50:10.003 align:start TEACHERS, OR EMAIL THE TEACHERS 50:10.006 --> 50:11.538 align:start AND ASK ABOUT THE CURRICULUM. 50:11.541 --> 50:13.074 align:start THERE IS NO BARRIER TO THAT NOW. 50:13.077 --> 50:14.608 align:start AND IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 50:14.611 --> 50:16.443 align:start IT, THEY CAN GO TO THE PRINCIPAL 50:16.446 --> 50:18.579 align:start OR THE SUPERINTENDENT, OR THEY 50:18.582 --> 50:19.947 align:start CAN GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. 50:19.950 --> 50:21.682 align:start WHY THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO GET 50:21.685 --> 50:23.283 align:start IN THE MIDDLE OF ISSUES WHERE 50:23.286 --> 50:24.585 align:start THEY CAN BE DEALT WITH ON A 50:24.588 --> 50:27.087 align:start LOCAL LEVEL IS BEYOND ME. 50:27.090 --> 50:30.057 align:start AND ANYTHING THAT PUTS MORE ON 50:30.060 --> 50:30.324 align:start THE TEACHERS' PLATE IS A BAD 50:30.327 --> 50:32.459 align:start IDEA. 50:32.462 --> 50:33.694 align:start WITH THIS BILL AND THIS CONCEPT, 50:33.697 --> 50:34.962 align:start WE'RE ALREADY THE LAUGHINGSTOCK 50:34.965 --> 50:36.096 align:start OF THE COUNTRY. 50:36.099 --> 50:37.598 align:start WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT AT 50:37.601 --> 50:38.966 align:start THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO 50:38.969 --> 50:39.166 align:start RECRUIT NEW BUSINESS INTO THIS 50:39.169 --> 50:42.036 align:start STATE. 50:42.039 --> 50:42.169 align:start LOTS OF LUCK WITH THAT. 50:42.172 --> 50:42.770 align:start >> 50:42.773 --> 50:43.704 align:start INDIANA LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 50:43.707 --> 50:46.040 align:start INDICATED RECENTLY THE GENERAL 50:46.043 --> 50:47.374 align:start ASSEMBLY WILL LIKELY HOLD OFF ON 50:47.377 --> 50:48.575 align:start ANY MAJOR ANTI-ABORTION 50:48.578 --> 50:49.242 align:start LEGISLATION THIS SESSION. 50:49.245 --> 50:49.843 align:start LAWMAKERS WANT TO WAIT FOR THE 50:49.846 --> 50:50.744 align:start US SUPREME COURT TO RULE ON THE 50:50.747 --> 50:53.881 align:start ISSUE LATER THIS YEAR BEFORE 50:53.884 --> 50:54.548 align:start TAKING ACTION. 50:54.551 --> 50:55.916 align:start >> THE FUTURE OF ABORTION RIGHTS 50:55.919 --> 50:57.451 align:start MAY BE DECIDED BY THE SUPREME 50:57.454 --> 50:59.920 align:start COURT THIS YEAR. AND INDIANA 50:59.923 --> 51:00.554 align:start SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM RODRIC 51:00.557 --> 51:01.122 align:start BRAY SAYS IT'S BEST TO WAIT FOR 51:01.125 --> 51:02.055 align:start THE DECISION BEFORE PASSING 51:02.058 --> 51:02.523 align:start LEGISLATION. 51:02.526 --> 51:03.991 align:start >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 51:03.994 --> 51:06.059 align:start (R-MARTINSVILLE): TO TRY AND 51:06.062 --> 51:10.063 align:start ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT MIGHT SAY 51:10.066 --> 51:12.766 align:start AND DRAFT LEGISLATION TO 51:12.769 --> 51:14.602 align:start ANTICIPATE EVERY POSSIBLE 51:14.605 --> 51:15.736 align:start SOLUTION OR OPINION THAT THEY 51:15.739 --> 51:16.770 align:start COULD COME OUT WITH JUST LOOKS 51:16.773 --> 51:17.338 align:start COMPLETELY UNDOABLE TO ME. SO, I 51:17.341 --> 51:18.505 align:start DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO TRY. 51:18.508 --> 51:20.541 align:start >> BUT ONCE THE COURT RULES, 51:20.544 --> 51:21.408 align:start BRAY SAYS HE MIGHT ASK THE 51:21.411 --> 51:21.675 align:start GOVERNOR TO CALL A SPECIAL 51:21.678 --> 51:23.677 align:start SESSION. 51:23.680 --> 51:24.578 align:start >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 51:24.581 --> 51:26.013 align:start (R-MARTINSVILLE): I THINK WE'LL 51:26.016 --> 51:26.647 align:start HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ADVOCATING 51:26.650 --> 51:27.381 align:start THAT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY 51:27.384 --> 51:28.315 align:start LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO TO MAKE A 51:28.318 --> 51:29.149 align:start CHANGE HERE IN THE STATE, IF 51:29.152 --> 51:30.584 align:start THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. 51:30.587 --> 51:31.585 align:start >> THE COURT'S RULINGS COULD 51:31.588 --> 51:34.054 align:start MEAN EVERYTHING FROM BANNING 51:34.057 --> 51:34.754 align:start ABORTION OUTRIGHT TO RESTRICTING 51:34.757 --> 51:39.660 align:start HOW LONG INTO PREGNANCY PEOPLE 51:39.663 --> 51:40.895 align:start CAN ACCESS ABORTION CARE. 51:40.898 --> 51:42.062 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, WILL GOP 51:42.065 --> 51:44.031 align:start CONSTITUENTS FOR WHOM ABORTION 51:44.034 --> 51:45.265 align:start IS ONE OF, IF NOT THE MOST 51:45.268 --> 51:49.103 align:start IMPORTANT ISSUE BE OKAY WITH 51:49.106 --> 51:52.439 align:start THIS WAIT-AND-SEE APPROACH? 51:52.442 --> 51:54.207 align:start >> THEY'LL BE DISAPPOINTED. 51:54.210 --> 51:56.109 align:start IF THERE WERE LEGISLATION, IT 51:56.112 --> 51:56.610 align:start WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JULY 51:56.613 --> 51:57.578 align:start 1. 51:57.581 --> 51:59.146 align:start THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IS 51:59.149 --> 52:00.581 align:start EXPECTED IN LATE JUNE. 52:00.584 --> 52:03.784 align:start AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT MAKES 52:03.787 --> 52:05.919 align:start SENSE TO WAIT AND SEE. 52:05.922 --> 52:07.487 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, CHANCES VERY HIGH 52:07.490 --> 52:09.223 align:start WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION 52:09.226 --> 52:10.891 align:start LATER THIS YEAR ON ABORTION? 52:10.894 --> 52:13.260 align:start >> WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALL 52:13.263 --> 52:13.627 align:start DEPENDS ON HOW THAT RULING COMES 52:13.630 --> 52:15.529 align:start DOWN. 52:15.532 --> 52:30.544 align:start IF THEY IN ANY WAY GIVE STATES 52:30.547 --> 52:30.878 align:start MORE RIGHT TO CURTAIL ABORTION, 52:30.881 --> 52:31.545 align:start ABSOLUTELY. 52:31.548 --> 52:31.879 align:start THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 52:31.882 --> 52:32.413 align:start FOR THIS WEEK. 52:32.416 --> 52:32.746 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 52:32.749 --> 52:33.213 align:start DELANEY. 52:33.216 --> 52:33.714 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 52:33.717 --> 52:34.047 align:start JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 52:34.050 --> 52:34.615 align:start LAWMAKERS. 52:34.618 --> 52:35.082 align:start AND NIKI KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE 52:35.085 --> 52:35.682 align:start JOURNAL GAZETTE. 52:35.685 --> 52:36.283 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 52:36.286 --> 52:36.883 align:start PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 52:36.886 --> 52:37.684 align:start WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 52:37.687 --> 52:38.418 align:start YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 52:38.421 --> 52:41.788 align:start DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 52:41.791 --> 52:42.356 align:start WFYI APP. 52:42.359 --> 52:44.524 align:start I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 52:44.527 --> 52:48.562 align:start PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 52:48.565 --> 52:50.097 align:start STAY SAFE, STAY HEALTHY, PLEASE 52:50.100 --> 52:50.731 align:start GET VACCINATED IF YOU CAN. 52:50.734 --> 52:53.901 align:start JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 52:53.904 --> 52:53.968 align:start CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK. 52:54.036 --> 53:01.876 align:start ♪♪ 53:13.789 --> 53:16.757 align:start ♪♪ 53:20.730 --> 53:23.898 align:start >> THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE 53:23.901 --> 53:27.334 align:start SOLELY THOSE OF THE PANELISTS, 53:27.337 --> 53:28.535 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS A WFYI 53:28.538 --> 53:29.136 align:start PRODUCTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH 53:29.139 --> 53:30.604 align:start INDIANA'S PUBLIC BROADCASTING