1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:08,539 >> BANNING TRANS STUDENTS FROM 2 00:00:08,542 --> 00:00:10,575 SPORTS. 3 00:00:10,578 --> 00:00:12,109 ABSENTEE MAIL-IN VOTING 4 00:00:12,112 --> 00:00:12,643 RESTRICTED. 5 00:00:12,646 --> 00:00:14,379 PLUS, CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL 6 00:00:14,382 --> 00:00:15,246 CURRICULUM BILL AND MORE ON 7 00:00:15,249 --> 00:00:21,252 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE 8 00:00:21,255 --> 00:00:23,587 WEEK ENDING JANUARY 28, 2022. 9 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:25,689 >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 10 00:00:25,692 --> 00:00:28,793 MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 11 00:00:28,796 --> 00:00:30,561 OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 12 00:00:30,564 --> 00:00:31,763 STATIONS. 13 00:00:31,766 --> 00:00:32,763 >> THIS WEEK, PROTESTS ERUPTED 14 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:33,364 IN THE INDIANA HOUSE CHAMBER 15 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:35,700 FOLLOWING A COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL 16 00:00:35,703 --> 00:00:36,366 OF A BILL RESTRICTING 17 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:38,903 TRANSGENDER GIRLS' ACCESS TO 18 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:39,503 SCHOOL SPORTS. THE VOTE CAME 19 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:40,738 AFTER HOURS OF TESTIMONY FROM 20 00:00:40,741 --> 00:00:42,940 HOOSIERS WHO MOSTLY OPPOSE THE 21 00:00:42,943 --> 00:00:44,775 MEASURE. 22 00:00:44,778 --> 00:00:47,611 >> THE LEGISLATION WOULD 23 00:00:47,614 --> 00:00:48,746 PROHIBIT TRANSGENDER GIRLS FROM 24 00:00:48,749 --> 00:00:49,480 JOINING GIRLS SCHOOL SPORTS 25 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:50,981 TEAMS. REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE 26 00:00:50,984 --> 00:00:52,383 MICHELLE DAVIS IS ITS AUTHOR. 27 00:00:52,386 --> 00:00:53,684 >> REP. MICHELLE DAVIS 28 00:00:53,687 --> 00:00:56,620 (R-WHITELAND): THE PURPOSE OF 29 00:00:56,623 --> 00:00:57,221 THIS BILL IS TO MAINTAIN FAIR 30 00:00:57,224 --> 00:00:57,755 COMPETITION IN GIRLS SPORTS. 31 00:00:57,758 --> 00:01:00,791 >> BUT MANY PEOPLE OPPOSED TO 32 00:01:00,794 --> 00:01:02,226 THE BILL SAY IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO 33 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:02,860 DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AN 34 00:01:02,863 --> 00:01:04,762 ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE GROUP OF 35 00:01:04,765 --> 00:01:05,296 CHILDREN. CHRIS PAULSEN FROM 36 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:08,299 INDIANA YOUTH GROUP JOINED 37 00:01:08,302 --> 00:01:08,832 SEVERAL OTHERS WHO POINTED OUT 38 00:01:08,835 --> 00:01:09,400 THE MENTAL HEALTH RISKS 39 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:11,769 TRANSGENDER YOUTH FACE, 40 00:01:11,772 --> 00:01:12,770 ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR IDENTITY 41 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:15,239 IS TARGETED BY POLITICIANS. 42 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:16,073 >> CHRIS PAULSEN: THE TREVOR 43 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:20,077 PROJECT'S 2021 SURVEY OF NEARLY 44 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,779 35 THOUSAND YOUTH AGES 13 TO 24 45 00:01:21,782 --> 00:01:24,782 SHOW THAT MORE THAN 50 PERCENT 46 00:01:24,785 --> 00:01:27,185 OF TRANSGENDER YOUTH HAVE 47 00:01:27,188 --> 00:01:28,653 SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED SUICIDE IN 48 00:01:28,656 --> 00:01:29,019 THE PAST YEAR. 49 00:01:29,022 --> 00:01:29,653 >> THE BILL 50 00:01:29,656 --> 00:01:31,722 PASSED THE FULL HOUSE THURSDAY. 51 00:01:31,725 --> 00:01:31,989 WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS BILL 52 00:01:31,992 --> 00:01:36,727 SOLVING? 53 00:01:36,730 --> 00:01:39,230 IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 54 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,231 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANE.L 55 00:01:40,234 --> 00:01:40,698 DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY. 56 00:01:40,701 --> 00:01:43,367 REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 57 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:44,735 JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 58 00:01:44,738 --> 00:01:45,469 LAWMAKERS, AND NIKI KELLY, 59 00:01:45,472 --> 00:01:46,003 STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE FORT 60 00:01:46,006 --> 00:01:48,739 WAYNE JOURNAL GAZETTE. 61 00:01:48,742 --> 00:01:49,940 I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 62 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:50,141 STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 63 00:01:50,144 --> 00:01:52,776 SMITH. 64 00:01:52,779 --> 00:01:53,944 ANN DELANEY, DOESN'T THE IHSAA 65 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:57,781 ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE 66 00:01:57,784 --> 00:01:58,883 TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE? 67 00:01:58,886 --> 00:02:00,451 DO THEY NOT? 68 00:02:00,454 --> 00:02:01,952 >> THEY DO. 69 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:02,487 IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESS, AS A 70 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:04,354 MATTER OF FACT. 71 00:02:04,357 --> 00:02:06,857 THIS ISN'T ABOUT FAIRNESS, IT'S 72 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:08,025 ABOUT HATRED. 73 00:02:08,028 --> 00:02:10,094 I THINK REPRESENTATIVE TONYA 74 00:02:10,097 --> 00:02:12,630 PFAFF SAID IT VERY WELL. 75 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:12,830 IT'S A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A 76 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:15,166 PROBLEM. 77 00:02:15,169 --> 00:02:15,733 THEY COULDN'T EVEN POINT TO 78 00:02:15,736 --> 00:02:16,767 SOMEONE DEFINITIVELY WHO FIT 79 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:21,806 INTO THIS CATEGORY. 80 00:02:21,809 --> 00:02:23,774 AND THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE 81 00:02:23,777 --> 00:02:26,243 HUNDREDS OF TEENAGE BOYS LINING 82 00:02:26,246 --> 00:02:27,244 UP TO GET SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, 83 00:02:27,247 --> 00:02:29,980 AND THE TRAUMA THAT THAT 84 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:32,116 CHANGE -- THE CHANGES THAT THAT 85 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:33,651 MEANS TO THEIR LIVES GOING 86 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:35,352 FORWARD, ALL TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL 87 00:02:35,355 --> 00:02:37,888 BASKETBALL IS RIDICULOUS. 88 00:02:37,891 --> 00:02:41,058 I MEAN, SHE IS SINGLING OUT 89 00:02:41,061 --> 00:02:42,426 PEOPLE JUST TO SHOW THAT SHE IS, 90 00:02:42,429 --> 00:02:43,661 AGAIN, FAR TO THE RIGHT, WHICH 91 00:02:43,664 --> 00:02:44,595 IS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS 92 00:02:44,598 --> 00:02:47,198 ON THIS. 93 00:02:47,201 --> 00:02:49,500 AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE UNANIMOUS 94 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:50,234 ON OPPOSING THIS AS THEY SHOULD 95 00:02:50,237 --> 00:02:51,435 BE. 96 00:02:51,438 --> 00:02:52,737 BECAUSE IT DOES DISCRIMINATE. 97 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:53,804 AND BY THE WAY, IT ONLY 98 00:02:53,807 --> 00:02:55,506 DISCRIMINATES ONE WAY, IT 99 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:56,607 DISCRIMINATES AGAINST BOYS WHO 100 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:57,975 HAVE THE SEX CHANGE OPERATION 101 00:02:57,978 --> 00:03:00,611 BECOME GIRLS. 102 00:03:00,614 --> 00:03:01,913 WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER? 103 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:02,980 THAT DOES OCCUR. 104 00:03:02,983 --> 00:03:05,983 ARE WE GOING TO SAY IT IS OKAY 105 00:03:05,986 --> 00:03:08,252 FOR THEM TO PLAY, OR ARE THEY 106 00:03:08,255 --> 00:03:09,853 SAYING WOMEN AREN'T VERY GOOD AT 107 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:12,590 SPORTS ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T 108 00:03:12,593 --> 00:03:13,824 MATTER IN THAT CONTEXT. 109 00:03:13,827 --> 00:03:16,561 THE WHOLE BILL IS RIDICULOUS. 110 00:03:16,564 --> 00:03:17,628 ALL IT DOES IS STIR UP THE 111 00:03:17,631 --> 00:03:19,763 REPUBLICAN BASE TO HATE ANOTHER 112 00:03:19,766 --> 00:03:21,899 GROUP OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE THEIR 113 00:03:21,902 --> 00:03:23,634 PROBLEMS, AND HAVE THEIR 114 00:03:23,637 --> 00:03:25,569 ADVERSITY TO FACE ON THEIR OWN 115 00:03:25,572 --> 00:03:27,104 WITHOUT THIS ADDITIONAL BURDEN. 116 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:28,139 >> MIKE O'BRIEN, FAIRNESS AND 117 00:03:28,142 --> 00:03:32,109 COMPETITION IS WHAT WE HEARD 118 00:03:32,112 --> 00:03:32,443 FROM THE PROPONENTS OF THIS 119 00:03:32,446 --> 00:03:34,178 BILL. 120 00:03:34,181 --> 00:03:36,847 ARE YOU BUYING THAT? 121 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:38,916 >> FIRST, I DON'T THINK THIS IS 122 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:41,685 DRIVEN BY HATRED AT ALL. 123 00:03:41,688 --> 00:03:42,787 I THINK IT IS DRIVEN BY 124 00:03:42,790 --> 00:03:44,521 MISUNDERSTANDING, FEAR, CONCERN 125 00:03:44,524 --> 00:03:44,788 FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME 126 00:03:44,791 --> 00:03:48,392 SCHOOLS. 127 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:49,660 AND THE POLITICS OF THIS, ANN'S 128 00:03:49,663 --> 00:03:51,395 WRONG, THIS ISN'T FAR RIGHT. 129 00:03:51,398 --> 00:03:55,466 WHAT IS DRIVING THIS ARE 130 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:58,135 COMMUNITIES THAT ARE 131 00:03:58,138 --> 00:03:59,803 TRADITIONALLY MODERATE, DRIVING 132 00:03:59,806 --> 00:04:02,206 A LOT OF THE CONCERN HERE WHERE 133 00:04:02,209 --> 00:04:03,140 YOU HAVE A VERY VOCAL 134 00:04:03,143 --> 00:04:05,176 TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. 135 00:04:05,179 --> 00:04:07,311 I THINK IF YOU WENT TO PLACES 136 00:04:07,314 --> 00:04:08,379 THAT WE BELIEVE ARE 137 00:04:08,382 --> 00:04:14,051 TRANSITIONING FROM A REPUBLICAN 138 00:04:14,054 --> 00:04:16,754 TO A DEMOCRAT AREA, MAYBE PURPLE 139 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:20,157 AREAS, THE -- THEY WERE MAYBE, I 140 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,993 THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE 141 00:04:22,996 --> 00:04:24,762 POLITICAL DIAGRAM OF THESE 142 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:26,196 PEOPLE, FOR GAY MARRIAGE AND 143 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:27,431 AGAINST TRANSGENDER ATHLETES. 144 00:04:27,434 --> 00:04:28,299 IS THIS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF 145 00:04:28,302 --> 00:04:29,867 A PROBLEM? 146 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:30,768 THERE IS NO EXAMPLES OF THIS 147 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:32,770 HERE. 148 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:34,438 I DO THINK REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS 149 00:04:34,441 --> 00:04:37,308 IS CORRECT THAT WE'RE HEADING 150 00:04:37,311 --> 00:04:38,942 THAT DIRECTION WHERE THIS IS 151 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:41,879 GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. 152 00:04:41,882 --> 00:04:42,079 AGAIN, ANN, I STRUGGLE WITH 153 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:48,286 THIS. 154 00:04:48,289 --> 00:04:50,187 I WAS WAY OUT IN FRONT ON THE 155 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:51,688 GAY MARRIAGE ISSUE, WORKED WITH 156 00:04:51,691 --> 00:04:54,291 CHRIS PAULSEN IF YOU LOOK AT 157 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:55,326 PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT 158 00:04:55,329 --> 00:04:57,227 HATEFUL, VERY REASONABLE AND 159 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:58,796 LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND SAY I 160 00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:00,765 JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT YET. 161 00:05:00,768 --> 00:05:02,733 >> YOU THINK THAT'S THE 162 00:05:02,736 --> 00:05:05,035 MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR A SEX 163 00:05:05,038 --> 00:05:05,770 CHANGE OPERATION, TO PLAY 164 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:07,405 SPORTS? 165 00:05:07,408 --> 00:05:09,206 >> I THINK IF -- IT'S HARD 166 00:05:09,209 --> 00:05:10,207 ENOUGH TO BE A TEENAGER, IF 167 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:10,540 YO'RE TRANSGENDER IT IS 168 00:05:10,543 --> 00:05:15,012 IMPOSSIBLE. 169 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:17,548 IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH 170 00:05:17,551 --> 00:05:20,251 THAT PROCESS, IT'S -- THAT'S A 171 00:05:20,254 --> 00:05:20,851 MONUMENTAL THING IN YOUR LIFE, I 172 00:05:20,854 --> 00:05:21,952 DON'T THINK PLAYING MEN'S 173 00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:22,319 BASKETBALL IS THE NEXT THING ON 174 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:23,854 YOUR LIST. 175 00:05:23,857 --> 00:05:25,089 >> NIKI KELLY, AS WE'VE HEARD 176 00:05:25,092 --> 00:05:26,957 NOW, DEBATE IN THE COMMITTEE, 177 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,325 AND THEN ON THE FLOOR, ARE 178 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:31,328 REPUBLICANS WHO ARE PUSHING THIS 179 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:33,163 BILL DOING A GOOD JOB TO 180 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:35,065 INDICATING THIS IS -- THESE ARE 181 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:35,265 THE EXACT REASONS WHY WE NEED 182 00:05:35,268 --> 00:05:37,435 IT? 183 00:05:37,438 --> 00:05:38,569 >> WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE 184 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:42,873 FOCUSING ON ONE THING ONLY, 185 00:05:42,876 --> 00:05:45,242 WHICH IS THEY'RE SAYING THERE IS 186 00:05:45,245 --> 00:05:48,112 UNFAIR PERFORMANCE EDGES. 187 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:50,114 THAT SOMEONE WHO IS BORN A MALE, 188 00:05:50,117 --> 00:05:51,515 HAS BETTER LUNG CAPACITY, 189 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:52,416 TALLER, MORE MUSCLE MASS, THINGS 190 00:05:52,419 --> 00:05:54,518 LIKE THAT. 191 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:55,419 THEY'RE FOCUSING ON SORT OF THE 192 00:05:55,422 --> 00:05:58,856 ADVANTAGES THAT THAT WOULD GIVE 193 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:00,591 IF THEY WOULD THEN TRANSITION TO 194 00:06:00,594 --> 00:06:01,959 A FEMALE SPORT. 195 00:06:01,962 --> 00:06:03,761 THE FASCINATING PART ABOUT MOST 196 00:06:03,764 --> 00:06:06,397 OF IT, THERE ARE EXAMPLES OUT 197 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,766 THERE THAT CAUSE ISSUES, BUT 198 00:06:08,769 --> 00:06:09,800 MOSTLY IN COLLEGIATE SPORTS, THE 199 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:11,736 BILL ORIGINALLY COVERED COLLEGE 200 00:06:11,739 --> 00:06:13,704 SPORTS, THEY TOOK IT OUT WITHOUT 201 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,774 A WORD OF EXPLANATION. 202 00:06:16,777 --> 00:06:18,342 I THINK WE CAN ALL SURMISE THAT 203 00:06:18,345 --> 00:06:20,344 THE NCAA WAS PROBABLY NOT A FAN 204 00:06:20,347 --> 00:06:21,044 OF IT. 205 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:23,847 THAT'S THE ARENA WHERE WE'RE 206 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:26,417 SEEING SOME OF THESE ISSUES 207 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:28,819 HAPPEN MORE THAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. 208 00:06:28,822 --> 00:06:30,287 AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. 209 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:30,488 >> JON SCHWANTES -- WE'VE 210 00:06:30,491 --> 00:06:32,556 SEEN -- 211 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:34,758 >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE IS 212 00:06:34,761 --> 00:06:34,992 NOTHING FAIR, I'M SORRY, GO 213 00:06:34,995 --> 00:06:36,427 AHEAD. 214 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:39,296 >> WE'VE SEEN OTHER BILLS LIKE 215 00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:41,298 THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, SOME A 216 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:42,800 LOT STRICTER THAN THIS ONE. 217 00:06:42,803 --> 00:06:44,000 A LOT OF THOSE BILLS HAVE 218 00:06:44,003 --> 00:06:47,171 RECEIVED A LOT MORE NATIONAL 219 00:06:47,174 --> 00:06:48,772 ATTENTION THAN I FEEL LIKE 220 00:06:48,775 --> 00:06:50,707 INDIANA'S BILL IS GETTING. 221 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:52,109 NOT SAYING IT IS GETTING NO 222 00:06:52,112 --> 00:06:53,844 ATTENTION, BUT CERTAINLY NOT ON 223 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:57,948 THE SCALE OF OTHER STATES. 224 00:06:57,951 --> 00:06:59,049 WHY IS THIS ONE SORT OF FLYING 225 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:00,784 UNDER THE RADAR? 226 00:07:00,787 --> 00:07:02,653 >> I THINK IF INDIANA HAD BEEN 227 00:07:02,656 --> 00:07:05,189 THE FIRST STATE TO ADDRESS THIS 228 00:07:05,192 --> 00:07:06,623 IN A LEGISLATIVE FASHION OR AT 229 00:07:06,626 --> 00:07:08,192 LEAST THROUGH A PROPOSED 230 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:10,060 LEGISLATION, IT PROBABLY WOULD 231 00:07:10,063 --> 00:07:10,994 HAVE BEEN A PROMINENT NATIONAL 232 00:07:10,997 --> 00:07:13,864 STORY. 233 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:15,032 YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET IN 234 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:16,433 DISCUSSIONS OF WHY VARIOUS 235 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,068 EDITORIAL DECISIONS ARE MADE AND 236 00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:20,471 WHAT CONSTITUTES NEWS. 237 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:22,372 AS EACH STATE WRESTLES WITH 238 00:07:22,375 --> 00:07:23,407 THIS, IT PROBABLY BECOMES -- I'M 239 00:07:23,410 --> 00:07:24,775 NOT SAYING IT IS ANY LESS 240 00:07:24,778 --> 00:07:27,211 SIGNIFICANT TO THE PEOPLE 241 00:07:27,214 --> 00:07:29,947 AFFECTED BY THE POTENTIAL LAW, 242 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:32,316 BUT IN TERMS OF IT BEING A 243 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,351 NATIONAL NEWS STORY, IT STARTS 244 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:36,420 TO DIMINISH A BIT. 245 00:07:36,423 --> 00:07:38,355 AND I THINK IT'S MORE -- IF YOU 246 00:07:38,358 --> 00:07:40,023 LOOK AT IT NARROWLY ABOUT THE 247 00:07:40,026 --> 00:07:43,694 COVERAGE IT RECEIVED, IT IS MORE 248 00:07:43,697 --> 00:07:46,129 ABOUT THAT PROBABLY THAN 249 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:48,432 ANYTHING MORE NUANCED ABOUT THE 250 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:49,800 FINE POINTS OF THE BILL HERE ARE 251 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,969 HOW IT'S BEING DEBATED. 252 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:53,704 >> I WANT TO JUST MAKE ONE 253 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:55,205 POINT, THERE IS NOTHING FAIR 254 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:57,241 ABOUT SPORTS RIGHT NOW. 255 00:07:57,244 --> 00:07:58,809 IF YOUR PARENTS HAVE THE MONEY, 256 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,678 THEY PUT YOU ON A TRAVELING TEAM 257 00:08:00,681 --> 00:08:04,181 AND TAKE YOU PLACES, PAY FOR 258 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:05,616 SUMMER CAMPS, YOU HAVE A 259 00:08:05,619 --> 00:08:07,518 TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE OVER KIDS 260 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:07,851 WHOSE PARENTS DON'T HAVE THOSE 261 00:08:07,854 --> 00:08:08,485 RESOURCES. 262 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:10,254 NOBODY IS WORRIED ABOUT THE 263 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:11,922 FAIRNESS OF THAT PART OF IT, 264 00:08:11,925 --> 00:08:12,189 WHICH I FIND REALLY KIND OF 265 00:08:12,192 --> 00:08:14,024 IRONIC 266 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:15,659 >> I AM SURPRISED THAT ANN MADE 267 00:08:15,662 --> 00:08:18,529 THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE 268 00:08:18,532 --> 00:08:20,731 BILL IS CRAFTED SO IT DEALS ONLY 269 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:22,299 WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ARE 270 00:08:22,302 --> 00:08:24,735 BORN GENETICALLY BORN AS MALES, 271 00:08:24,738 --> 00:08:27,137 AND ARE TRANSITIONING TO FEMALE. 272 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:29,874 IT DOES SEEM THAT IF IN FACT 273 00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:32,610 THIS IS ALL ABOUT FAIRNESS, ONE 274 00:08:32,613 --> 00:08:33,911 COULD ARGUE THAT THE BILL SHOULD 275 00:08:33,914 --> 00:08:38,982 BE BROADENED, AT LEAST THE 276 00:08:38,985 --> 00:08:40,517 LANGUAGE, TO SAY IF YOU'RE 277 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,718 COMPETING OUTSIDE THE SPORT 278 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:41,886 CLASSIFICATION IN WHICH YOU WERE 279 00:08:41,889 --> 00:08:44,755 BORN. 280 00:08:44,758 --> 00:08:46,490 I CAN SEE PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS 281 00:08:46,493 --> 00:08:50,094 PICKING -- NARROWLY DEFINING THE 282 00:08:50,097 --> 00:08:50,227 LAW IN A WAY IT SHOULDN'T BE. 283 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:50,828 >> 284 00:08:50,831 --> 00:08:51,295 TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 285 00:08:51,298 --> 00:08:51,895 EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 286 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:52,830 UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 287 00:08:52,833 --> 00:08:55,366 QUESTION. 288 00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:56,767 THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: 289 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:57,400 SHOULD TRANSGENDER STUDENTS BE 290 00:08:57,403 --> 00:08:59,403 BANNED FROM PARTICIPATING IN 291 00:08:59,406 --> 00:09:02,372 GIRLS' HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS? 292 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:02,839 A, YES, OR B, NO. 293 00:09:02,842 --> 00:09:03,373 LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: 294 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:04,775 WILL THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 295 00:09:04,778 --> 00:09:08,512 ELIMINATE INDIANA'S LICENSE 296 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:08,779 REQUIREMENT TO CARRY A HANDGUN 297 00:09:08,782 --> 00:09:11,515 THIS YEAR? 298 00:09:11,518 --> 00:09:13,717 THIS ONE WAS CLOSER THAN I WAS 299 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,653 EXPECTING, 44% YES, 56 NO. 300 00:09:15,656 --> 00:09:17,654 I SUGGEST THE CHANCES ARE A LOT 301 00:09:17,657 --> 00:09:19,656 HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT WE'LL FIND 302 00:09:19,659 --> 00:09:20,724 OUT IN THE COMING WEEKS. 303 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:22,025 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 304 00:09:22,028 --> 00:09:27,230 IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 305 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:28,165 AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 306 00:09:28,168 --> 00:09:31,368 CHANGES TO AN ELECTIONS BILL IN 307 00:09:31,371 --> 00:09:32,769 A HOUSE COMMITTEE THIS WEEK WILL 308 00:09:32,772 --> 00:09:35,272 MAKE IT HARDER FOR HOOSIERS TO 309 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:36,674 VOTE ABSENTEE BY MAIL. 310 00:09:36,677 --> 00:09:37,908 >> THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE 311 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,276 APPROVED LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, IF 312 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:40,777 YOU WANT TO VOTE ABSENTEE BY 313 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:43,080 MAIL, YOU MUST ATTEST THAT YOU 314 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:44,715 WON'T BE AVAILABLE ON ELECTION 315 00:09:44,718 --> 00:09:45,349 DAY OR - AND THIS IS THE NEW 316 00:09:45,352 --> 00:09:48,785 PART - ANY TIME IN THE 28 DAYS 317 00:09:48,788 --> 00:09:50,487 BEFORE THE ELECTION, WHEN EARLY 318 00:09:50,490 --> 00:09:51,588 VOTING IS AVAILABLE. 319 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:52,789 REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE TIM 320 00:09:52,792 --> 00:09:53,490 WESCO. 321 00:09:53,493 --> 00:09:56,126 >> REP. TIM WESCO (R-OSCEOLA): I 322 00:09:56,129 --> 00:09:56,760 BELIEVE THE BEST POLICY IS TO 323 00:09:56,763 --> 00:09:58,462 ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE IN 324 00:09:58,465 --> 00:09:59,430 PERSON, WHETHER ON ELECTION DAY 325 00:09:59,433 --> 00:09:59,697 OR IN PERSON EARLY, AS MUCH AS 326 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:00,897 POSSIBLE. 327 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:03,233 >> DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE ED 328 00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:04,768 DELANEY SAYS THAT PUTS A GREATER 329 00:10:04,771 --> 00:10:06,503 BURDEN ON VOTERS, PARTICULARLY 330 00:10:06,506 --> 00:10:07,103 IN COUNTIES WITH FEW EARLY 331 00:10:07,106 --> 00:10:07,738 VOTING LOCATIONS. AND HE 332 00:10:07,741 --> 00:10:09,539 QUESTIONED WHY THE CHANGE IS 333 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:10,540 NECESSARY. 334 00:10:10,543 --> 00:10:11,742 >> REP. ED 335 00:10:11,745 --> 00:10:12,542 DELANEY(D-INDIANAPOLIS): I THINK 336 00:10:12,545 --> 00:10:14,611 THE ANSWER'S APPARENT. THE 337 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,146 ANSWER IS, WE WANT TO REDUCE THE 338 00:10:16,149 --> 00:10:18,615 NUMBER OF VOTERS. WHY DON'T YOU 339 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:20,250 JUST SAY THAT. 340 00:10:20,253 --> 00:10:20,784 >> THE BILL IS UP FOR PASSAGE IN 341 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:23,187 THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. 342 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:23,787 >> MIKE O'BRIEN, WHY NOT JUST 343 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:27,458 GET RID OF ABSENTEE MAIL-IN 344 00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:31,528 VOTING ENTIRELY? 345 00:10:31,531 --> 00:10:34,798 I'M NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE 346 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:36,767 ELECTION DAY OR 28 DAYS BEFORE. 347 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:40,671 >> I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS A 348 00:10:40,674 --> 00:10:43,173 WEIRD DEAL, THIS -- BECAUSE I 349 00:10:43,176 --> 00:10:44,341 ALWAYS VOTED ABSENTEE, OR VOTE 350 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:45,943 IN PERSON EARLY. 351 00:10:45,946 --> 00:10:46,410 I WAS NEVER AVAILABLE ON 352 00:10:46,413 --> 00:10:48,479 ELECTION DAY. 353 00:10:48,482 --> 00:10:50,113 I WAS ALWAYS WORKING ELECTIONS, 354 00:10:50,116 --> 00:10:52,750 MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THE EASY WAY 355 00:10:52,753 --> 00:10:55,018 OUT HERE AND -- NOW I CAN'T 356 00:10:55,021 --> 00:10:56,787 ANYMORE WITHOUT JUST STRAIGHT UP 357 00:10:56,790 --> 00:11:00,157 BEING -- VIOLATING THE SPIRIT OF 358 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,425 THE LAW BEFORE. 359 00:11:01,428 --> 00:11:04,261 THE ACTUALLY LETTER. 360 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:05,328 THAT WAS THE POINT BEFORE, BEING 361 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:06,096 UNAVAILABLE WHEN GIVEN THE 362 00:11:06,099 --> 00:11:07,364 OPPORTUNITY IN PERSON. 363 00:11:07,367 --> 00:11:09,532 I'M A TRADITIONALIST, I 364 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:12,035 THINK -- I WOULD THINK WE MADE 365 00:11:12,038 --> 00:11:13,036 IT WIDELY AND WILDLY AVAILABLE 366 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:15,805 VOTING IN THE LAST 20 YEARS IN 367 00:11:15,808 --> 00:11:16,873 THIS STATE, CONTRARY TO WHAT 368 00:11:16,876 --> 00:11:19,176 DEMOCRATS THINK, WHETHER VOTE 369 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:21,244 CENTERS OR SATELLITE VOTING, 370 00:11:21,247 --> 00:11:22,779 EARLY VOTING FOR 30 DAYS, OR 371 00:11:22,782 --> 00:11:24,714 VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, WHICH IS 372 00:11:24,717 --> 00:11:26,983 WHAT WE DID TO START, IT WASN'T 373 00:11:26,986 --> 00:11:28,452 THAT LONG AGO THAT WE DID THAT. 374 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:30,987 VAST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THIS 375 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:34,391 STATE. 376 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:35,592 FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE SOME 377 00:11:35,595 --> 00:11:37,327 IDEOLOGICAL RIGID -- AS TIM 378 00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:39,129 WESCO SAID, WE HAVE BEEN LIVING 379 00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:40,397 ON THE HONOR SYSTEM FOREVER, I 380 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,733 THINK IT HAS WORKED. 381 00:11:42,736 --> 00:11:44,334 BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR OWN 382 00:11:44,337 --> 00:11:47,070 OPERATIONS THAT RECRUIT THEIR 383 00:11:47,073 --> 00:11:47,537 OWN VOTERS TO VOTE ABSENTEE AND 384 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:50,140 VOTE EARLY. 385 00:11:50,143 --> 00:11:51,608 SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT, 386 00:11:51,611 --> 00:11:54,344 THEY'RE TRADITIONALISTS WHO WANT 387 00:11:54,347 --> 00:11:55,479 VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, THE 388 00:11:55,482 --> 00:11:57,948 ELECTION OSTENSIBLY ENDS 30 DAYS 389 00:11:57,951 --> 00:11:59,382 BEFORE ELECTION DAY FOR A LOT OF 390 00:11:59,385 --> 00:12:00,484 PEOPLE, CAMPAIGNS DON'T LIKE 391 00:12:00,487 --> 00:12:01,618 THAT, CANDIDATES DON'T LIKE 392 00:12:01,621 --> 00:12:03,019 THAT, THE ENVIRONMENT CAN 393 00:12:03,022 --> 00:12:03,853 CHANGE, THIS AND THAT. 394 00:12:03,856 --> 00:12:05,789 I DON'T THINK THIS WAS 395 00:12:05,792 --> 00:12:07,357 NECESSARILY BROKEN IN INDIANA. 396 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,494 BUT I DO THINK CONTRARY TO WHAT 397 00:12:10,497 --> 00:12:12,730 DEMOCRATS THINK, WE HAVE MADE IT 398 00:12:12,733 --> 00:12:16,299 MUCH EASIER TO VOTE IN INDIANA 399 00:12:16,302 --> 00:12:17,501 OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. 400 00:12:17,504 --> 00:12:23,240 >> [LAUGHTER] HOLD THAT THOUGHT. 401 00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:24,775 >> I KNOW YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT 402 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:26,476 MIKE SAID. 403 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:30,981 TIM WESCO REFERENCED. 404 00:12:30,984 --> 00:12:31,982 INDIANA DOES THIS ABSENTEE 405 00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:33,517 VOTING LARGELY ON THE -- NOBODY 406 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,988 IS CHECKING THIS. 407 00:12:37,991 --> 00:12:38,722 IS THIS REALLY GOING TO AFFECT 408 00:12:38,725 --> 00:12:41,191 HOW VOTERS VOTE? 409 00:12:41,194 --> 00:12:43,260 >> WELL, YOU COULD HAVE A 410 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:46,130 SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY FINDS 411 00:12:46,133 --> 00:12:48,498 OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO SENT IN 412 00:12:48,501 --> 00:12:50,267 AN ABSENTEE BALLOT WAS PRESENT 413 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:50,534 AND HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST THAT 414 00:12:50,537 --> 00:12:52,002 PERSON. 415 00:12:52,005 --> 00:12:53,837 THERE ARE CRIMINALS -- IF YOU 416 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,839 CHANGE YOUR MIND OR YOU THINK 417 00:12:55,842 --> 00:12:57,207 YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, OR YOU 418 00:12:57,210 --> 00:13:00,010 THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE GONE 419 00:13:00,013 --> 00:13:00,677 AND YOU'RE HERE, THERE ARE ALL 420 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,145 KINDS OF THINGS WHERE SOMEBODY 421 00:13:02,148 --> 00:13:03,213 COULD MAKE TROUBLE BASED ON A 422 00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:04,748 CRIMINAL PROSECUTION NOW, THE 423 00:13:04,751 --> 00:13:06,350 HONOR SYSTEM APPARENTLY IS NO 424 00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:07,117 LONGER GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS 425 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,186 STATE REPRESENTATIVE. 426 00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:11,087 HE WANTS CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. 427 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,156 BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS 428 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:15,225 CAME OUT THE SAME WEEK THAT THE 429 00:13:15,228 --> 00:13:17,160 CIVIC HEALTH INDEX CAME OUT, AND 430 00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:20,130 INDIANA, DESPITE WHAT MIKE SAID, 431 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,332 HAS GONE FROM BEING 41st IN THE 432 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,067 STATE -- AMONG THE STATES TO 433 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:26,403 46th IN THE STATE. 434 00:13:26,406 --> 00:13:28,772 YEARS AGO, YEARS AGO, WE WERE IN 435 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:30,874 THE TOP 10 IN TERMS OF TURNOUT. 436 00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:32,075 NOW, NOT ONLY THE BOTTOM 10, 437 00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:33,544 WE'RE IN THE BOTTOM 5. 438 00:13:33,547 --> 00:13:35,179 SO WE HAVE NOT MADE IT EASIER 439 00:13:35,182 --> 00:13:36,914 FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE. 440 00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:39,983 WE HAVE PUT REPEATED OBSTACLES 441 00:13:39,986 --> 00:13:43,120 IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE VOTING. 442 00:13:43,123 --> 00:13:44,755 >> THOSE STATS DON'T MATTER. 443 00:13:44,758 --> 00:13:46,122 >> PARENTS DON'T -- REPUBLICANS 444 00:13:46,125 --> 00:13:47,758 DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO VOTE. 445 00:13:47,761 --> 00:13:48,725 >> WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR 446 00:13:48,728 --> 00:13:51,762 IN VOTER MOTIVATION? 447 00:13:51,765 --> 00:13:54,264 >> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 448 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:55,198 AND THE CIVIC HEALTH INDEX 449 00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:55,565 ITSELF SHOWS HOW MUCH WE'VE 450 00:13:55,568 --> 00:13:57,201 SLIPPED. 451 00:13:57,204 --> 00:13:58,769 >> I THINK IT SHOWS HOW WE HAVE 452 00:13:58,772 --> 00:13:59,603 NO COMPETITIVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 453 00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:01,371 IN INDIANA. 454 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:05,609 BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO 455 00:14:05,612 --> 00:14:08,278 GO VOTE IS BECAUSE IT'S 456 00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:08,711 COMPETITIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF 457 00:14:08,714 --> 00:14:09,613 GERRYMANDERING. 458 00:14:09,616 --> 00:14:10,013 >> IT IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF 459 00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:15,919 GERRYMANDERING. 460 00:14:15,922 --> 00:14:16,186 THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO 461 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:18,521 COMPETITION. 462 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:18,689 BECAUSE YOU GERRYMANDERED IT SO 463 00:14:18,692 --> 00:14:20,357 WELL. 464 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:20,523 >> YOU'RE A THIRD PLACE PARTY, 465 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,959 ANN. 466 00:14:22,962 --> 00:14:23,327 WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER 467 00:14:23,330 --> 00:14:24,761 CONSERVATIVES 468 00:14:24,764 --> 00:14:26,897 >> YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU 469 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:28,131 WOULD BE HAPPY ENOUGH THAT THE 470 00:14:28,134 --> 00:14:29,600 GERRYMANDERING RESULTS THAT YOU 471 00:14:29,603 --> 00:14:30,767 WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RESTRICT 472 00:14:30,770 --> 00:14:33,436 REGISTRATION AND VOTING, BUT 473 00:14:33,439 --> 00:14:37,107 THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS. 474 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:38,675 >> YOU'RE JUST ABSURD. 475 00:14:38,678 --> 00:14:40,777 >> JON SCHWANTES, DO YOU FEEL 476 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:42,379 LIKE THIS IS -- I FEEL LIKE I'M 477 00:14:42,382 --> 00:14:43,980 ASKING A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT I 478 00:14:43,983 --> 00:14:48,385 ASKED ON THE LAST TOPIC. 479 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:48,718 WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THIS 480 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:50,254 LEGISLATION? 481 00:14:50,257 --> 00:14:52,822 >> PROBABLY NO NEED. 482 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:53,257 THE MOTIVATION, I THINK, IS CUT 483 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:55,558 AND DRIED. 484 00:14:55,561 --> 00:14:55,759 REPUBLICANS WANT FEWER PEOPLE TO 485 00:14:55,762 --> 00:14:58,362 VOTE. 486 00:14:58,365 --> 00:15:02,198 THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 487 00:15:02,201 --> 00:15:05,302 LET'S NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. 488 00:15:05,305 --> 00:15:07,036 IT'S -- I AGREE WITH MIKE THAT 489 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:08,071 IDEALLY WE'D ALL -- I LOVE THE 490 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:09,239 TRADITION OF EVERYBODY GOING TO 491 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:11,374 THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. 492 00:15:11,377 --> 00:15:12,575 IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A 493 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:15,345 BIPARTISAN COMMISSION, FEDERAL 494 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:19,883 COMMISSION, I THINK IT WAS 495 00:15:19,886 --> 00:15:23,920 CO-CHAIRED MAYBE BY GERALD FORD 496 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:25,322 AND JIMMY CARTER, LET'S MAKE 497 00:15:25,325 --> 00:15:26,390 THIS SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT 498 00:15:26,393 --> 00:15:28,125 EVERYBODY WORKS TOGETHER. 499 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:29,125 I WOULD LOVE THAT, WE DON'T LIVE 500 00:15:29,128 --> 00:15:32,762 IN LA LA LAND. 501 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:34,064 SEEMS TO ME, WELL, WE CAN DEBATE 502 00:15:34,067 --> 00:15:35,598 THE VOTER SECURITY. 503 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,434 BUT WE CAN'T DEBATE THE 504 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:38,635 MOTIVATION HERE, WHICH IS TO 505 00:15:38,638 --> 00:15:38,969 REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 506 00:15:38,972 --> 00:15:41,237 VOTING. 507 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,543 THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR. 508 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:48,778 >> NIKI KELLY, TIM WESCO KIND OF 509 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:51,214 INDIRECTLY CAST SOME DOUBT ON 510 00:15:51,217 --> 00:15:52,749 THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF 511 00:15:52,752 --> 00:15:52,983 MAIL-IN VOTING DURING THAT HOUSE 512 00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:54,718 COMMITTEE. 513 00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:55,585 IS THERE ANY WIDE EVIDENCE OF 514 00:15:55,588 --> 00:15:57,821 WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD WHEN IT 515 00:15:57,824 --> 00:15:59,422 COMES TO MAIL-IN VOTING. 516 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:00,890 WE HAVE STATES WHO FOR TWO 517 00:16:00,893 --> 00:16:02,459 DECADES HAVE BEEN DOING 518 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:04,761 EXCLUSIVELY MAIL-IN VOTING? 519 00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:06,730 >> NO, THERE ISN'T. 520 00:16:06,733 --> 00:16:07,998 SURE, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND AN 521 00:16:08,001 --> 00:16:08,264 OCCASIONAL INSTANCE HERE OR 522 00:16:08,267 --> 00:16:08,831 THERE. 523 00:16:08,834 --> 00:16:10,400 SOMETIMES IT IS ON THE 524 00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:11,201 REPUBLICAN SIDE AND SOMETIMES ON 525 00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,769 THE DEMOCRAT SIDE. 526 00:16:12,772 --> 00:16:14,804 ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE WITH 527 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,706 THIS WHOLE NOTION OF THE ENTIRE 528 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:17,540 MONTH BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE. 529 00:16:17,543 --> 00:16:20,010 THIS 28 DAYS THING. 530 00:16:20,013 --> 00:16:22,045 FOR A LOT OF COUNTIES, THOUGH, 531 00:16:22,048 --> 00:16:22,412 THAT -- YOU CAN'T VOTE ALL 28 532 00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:24,748 DAYS. 533 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:26,049 A LOT OF COUNTIES JUST HAVE 534 00:16:26,052 --> 00:16:27,117 SATURDAY VOTING. 535 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,485 REALLY THAT'S FOUR ADDITIONAL 536 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:29,486 DAYS YOU CAN VOTE. 537 00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:32,088 NOT 28. 538 00:16:32,091 --> 00:16:33,723 SO REALLY IS A WIDE VARIETY, 539 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:34,090 DEPENDING WHERE YOU LIVE. 540 00:16:34,093 --> 00:16:36,426 >> YEAH. 541 00:16:36,429 --> 00:16:37,828 NOT JUST WHAT DAYS, EVEN WHAT 542 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:41,698 HOURS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 543 00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:41,965 SOME DAYS IT'S FOUR HOURS IN THE 544 00:16:41,968 --> 00:16:44,768 MORNING. 545 00:16:44,771 --> 00:16:46,370 >> WE SHOULD PROBABLY POINT OUT 546 00:16:46,373 --> 00:16:48,772 DONALD TRUMP RELIED ON MAIL-IN 547 00:16:48,775 --> 00:16:51,241 VOTING MOST OF HIS LIFE, 548 00:16:51,244 --> 00:16:54,644 CERTAINLY IN THE LAST ELECTION. 549 00:16:54,647 --> 00:16:56,313 >> PROBABLY CORRUPT 550 00:16:56,316 --> 00:16:57,047 >> THE INDIANA HOUSE APPROVED A 551 00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:57,514 CONTROVERSIAL SCHOOL CONTENT AND 552 00:16:57,517 --> 00:16:59,516 CURRICULUM BILL THIS WEEK. 553 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:00,117 INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S 554 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,717 JEANIE LINDSAY REPORTS, 555 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,651 LAWMAKERS PASSED THE MEASURE 556 00:17:01,654 --> 00:17:02,719 AFTER MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A 557 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:03,920 PHALF OF DISCUSSION ON THE HOUS 558 00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:06,322 FLOOR. 559 00:17:06,325 --> 00:17:08,758 >> LAWMAKERS MADE A FEW CHANGES 560 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:10,393 TO HOUSE BILL 1134 BEFORE THE 561 00:17:10,396 --> 00:17:12,729 HOUSE APPROVED IT. BILL AUTHOR 562 00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,330 REP. TONY COOK SAYS THEY AIM TO 563 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,733 ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT THE BILL 564 00:17:16,736 --> 00:17:17,400 WOULD ADD ONTO SCHOOLS' 565 00:17:17,403 --> 00:17:19,402 WORKLOADS OR PREVENT TEACHERS 566 00:17:19,405 --> 00:17:20,604 FROM CONDEMNING RACISM. BUT 567 00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:23,273 CONCERNS PERSISTED FROM SOME 568 00:17:23,276 --> 00:17:23,907 LAWMAKERS, LIKE REPRESENTATIVE 569 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:24,774 CAROLYN JACKSON, ABOUT HOW THE 570 00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:27,244 OVERALL LEGISLATION COULD IMPACT 571 00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:27,677 SCHOOLS - ESPECIALLY AS THE 572 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,778 PANDEMIC CONTINUES. 573 00:17:28,781 --> 00:17:32,749 >> REP. CAROLYN JACKSON 574 00:17:32,752 --> 00:17:34,084 (D-HAMMOND): I THINK WE NEED TO 575 00:17:34,087 --> 00:17:36,753 STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE 576 00:17:36,756 --> 00:17:37,354 SITUATION BEFORE WE CREATE 577 00:17:37,357 --> 00:17:39,622 ANOTHER OBSTACLE AND FALL ON OUR 578 00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:43,126 FACE. 579 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:43,727 >> MANY LAWMAKERS OPPOSED TO THE 580 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:44,861 BILL WORRY IT COULD REDUCE THE 581 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:46,196 NUMBER OF TEACHERS WILLING TO 582 00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:51,267 WORK IN THE STATE. THE HOUSE 583 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:54,471 APPROVED THE LEGISLATION 60 TO 584 00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:55,739 37. IT NOW HEADS TO THE SENATE. 585 00:17:55,742 --> 00:17:57,140 >> NIKI KELLY, BEFORE THEY 586 00:17:57,143 --> 00:17:58,875 PASSED THE BILL OVER TO THE 587 00:17:58,878 --> 00:17:59,943 SENATE, THEY CHANGED THE BILL IN 588 00:17:59,946 --> 00:18:02,912 A NINE-PAGE AMENDMENT. 589 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:04,781 ANY TIME YOU HAVE A NINE-PAGE 590 00:18:04,784 --> 00:18:08,785 AMENDMENT TO A PIECE OF 591 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:12,388 LEGISLATION, THAT'S A GOOD BILL. 592 00:18:12,391 --> 00:18:15,492 CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF THE 593 00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:20,763 CHANGES TO THE BILL? 594 00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:24,767 >> MOST WERE TWEAKING, IT LIMITS 595 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:26,236 THE DAMAGES, IT WAS TEACHERS 596 00:18:26,239 --> 00:18:27,403 HAVING TO POST CURRICULUM, IF 597 00:18:27,406 --> 00:18:28,972 THEY STUMBLED UPON AN ARTICLE 598 00:18:28,975 --> 00:18:31,107 THE NIGHT BEFORE, DO THEY HAVE 599 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,943 TO RUN IMMEDIATELY AND POST IT 600 00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:35,011 BEFORE CLASS, OR WILL THEY BE IN 601 00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:37,314 VIOLATION OF THE LAW? 602 00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:39,282 THEY BACKED THAT DOWN A LITTLE 603 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,750 TO BE A LITTLE LESS, I GUESS, 604 00:18:40,753 --> 00:18:42,418 ONEROUS, ON THAT SIDE. 605 00:18:42,421 --> 00:18:43,820 BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND 606 00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:45,421 PURPOSES, IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE 607 00:18:45,424 --> 00:18:45,956 SAME BILL IT'S BEEN THE WHOLE 608 00:18:45,959 --> 00:18:48,257 TIME. 609 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:50,026 THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN 610 00:18:50,029 --> 00:18:53,263 CHANGING THE DIVISIVE CONCEPT 611 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:54,664 LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, WHICH IS 612 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:55,365 THE WHOLE REASON THERE IS 613 00:18:55,368 --> 00:18:57,800 DIVISION ON THE BILL. 614 00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:59,135 >> JON SCHWANTES, TO THAT END, 615 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,103 THE SENATE KILLED OFF ITS 616 00:19:00,106 --> 00:19:02,805 VERSION OF THIS MEASURE. 617 00:19:02,808 --> 00:19:03,140 IT SAID THERE WAS NO PATH 618 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:04,373 FORWARD. 619 00:19:04,376 --> 00:19:06,309 THAT'S WHAT THE VERY BRIEF 4:00 620 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:07,844 P.M. ON A FRIDAY STATEMENT SAID. 621 00:19:07,847 --> 00:19:10,046 IF THERE IS NO PATH FORWARD ON 622 00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:11,915 THAT BILL, WHY WOULD THERE BE A 623 00:19:11,918 --> 00:19:13,950 PATH FORWARD ON THIS BILL? 624 00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:16,452 >> THIS ASSUMES THERE IS. 625 00:19:16,455 --> 00:19:19,289 I MEAN, I THINK THE SENATE CAN 626 00:19:19,292 --> 00:19:21,124 MAYBE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE HERE. 627 00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:22,058 I THINK THERE IS CLEARLY 628 00:19:22,061 --> 00:19:23,159 ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT. 629 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,494 VARIOUS BILLS HAVE BEEN 630 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:26,462 INTRODUCED, SOME DEAL WITH 631 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:27,864 NARROW PORTIONS OF THIS WHOLE 632 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:30,466 REFORM PACKAGE WITH PARENTAL 633 00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:31,401 INVOLVEMENT AND PARENTAL INPUT. 634 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:33,436 OTHERS ARE MUCH BROADER. 635 00:19:33,439 --> 00:19:36,539 SO WHAT I THINK WE COULD SEE 636 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:39,109 COME OUT OF THIS IS ATTEMPTS AT 637 00:19:39,112 --> 00:19:40,377 MORE TRANSPARENCY. 638 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:44,414 FORMALIZED POSTING OF COURSE 639 00:19:44,417 --> 00:19:44,781 LESSONS AND COURSE MATERIALS, 640 00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:46,983 CURRICULA. 641 00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:47,717 AND INVOLVEMENT, MANDATORY 642 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,951 INVOLVEMENT OF THE PUBLIC AND 643 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:51,287 SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS IN TERMS 644 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:57,293 OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A 645 00:19:57,296 --> 00:19:58,795 SAY WITHOUT IMPOSING VERY 646 00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:00,797 SPECIFIC BUT STILL SUBJECT TO 647 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,266 DEBATE GUIDELINES ABOUT WHAT CAN 648 00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:05,402 BE TAUGHT OR THE REVIEW PROCESS. 649 00:20:05,405 --> 00:20:07,236 BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON 650 00:20:07,239 --> 00:20:10,073 SOCIAL STUDIES, AND LANGUAGE 651 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:10,307 ARTS IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT 652 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:12,775 WAY. 653 00:20:12,778 --> 00:20:19,015 IF YOU PUT THE WHOLE CURRICULA 654 00:20:19,018 --> 00:20:20,250 TO AN ADVISORY PANEL, I CAN SEE 655 00:20:20,253 --> 00:20:20,617 CREATIONISM VERSUS EVOLUTION 656 00:20:20,620 --> 00:20:22,518 CREEPING IN. 657 00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:24,120 I CAN SEE WHEN YOU HAVE A 658 00:20:24,123 --> 00:20:25,455 PERSONAL FINANCE CLASS AND 659 00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:27,324 STUDENTS ARE GIVEN A FAKE POT OF 660 00:20:27,327 --> 00:20:28,791 MONEY TO LEARN HOW TO INVEST IN 661 00:20:28,794 --> 00:20:31,127 THE STOCK MARKET, THERE ARE 662 00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:32,795 PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU ARE CREATING 663 00:20:32,798 --> 00:20:33,796 A BUNCH OF CUTTHROAT CAPITALISTS 664 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:36,600 WITH NO HEART. 665 00:20:36,603 --> 00:20:38,268 THIS WHOLE THING POTENTIALLY, 666 00:20:38,271 --> 00:20:40,003 THAT'S A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION 667 00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:42,772 IN TERMS OF REALITY. 668 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:45,241 IT DOES SEEM THAT CRITICS ARE 669 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:47,110 WORRIED A LOT ABOUT GRIDLOCK 670 00:20:47,113 --> 00:20:50,880 HERE, AND THE BURDEN THAT WOULD 671 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:52,215 BE CREATED BY THIS MULTI-LAYERED 672 00:20:52,218 --> 00:20:53,416 APPROACH TO CURRICULUM APPROVAL. 673 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:55,752 >> MIKE O'BRIEN, IF THE SENATE 674 00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:57,153 TOOK OUT THE DIVISIVE CONCEPTS 675 00:20:57,156 --> 00:20:58,288 LANGUAGE AND WE WERE LEFT WITH A 676 00:20:58,291 --> 00:20:59,456 LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM 677 00:20:59,459 --> 00:21:03,226 TEACHERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY 678 00:21:03,229 --> 00:21:04,727 HAVE TO POST ONLINE AND THESE 679 00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:06,028 PARENT -- THESE CURRICULUM 680 00:21:06,031 --> 00:21:08,364 COMMITTEES THAT PARENTS WOULD 681 00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:10,166 PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN AT THE 682 00:21:10,169 --> 00:21:12,001 SCHOOL BOARD AND DISTRICT LEVEL. 683 00:21:12,004 --> 00:21:15,104 IF THAT'S ALL THE BILL WAS LEFT 684 00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:15,805 WITH, DOES THIS HAVE IS A MUCH 685 00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:16,706 EASIER PATH FORWARD? 686 00:21:16,709 --> 00:21:18,875 >> PROBABLY. 687 00:21:18,878 --> 00:21:20,677 BUT I THINK THE GOAL NEEDS TO BE 688 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,144 TRANSPARENCY AND NOT CONTROL FOR 689 00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:23,246 PARENTS. 690 00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:23,880 AND TAKE THIS OFF THE TEACHER'S 691 00:21:23,883 --> 00:21:25,815 PLATE ENTIRELY. 692 00:21:25,818 --> 00:21:28,851 MOVE THIS ENTIRELY TO A SCHOOL 693 00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:30,420 BOARD, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF 694 00:21:30,423 --> 00:21:30,686 PARENTAL COMMITTEE ADVISORY 695 00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:33,389 ROLE. 696 00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:36,426 BUT WHERE ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE 697 00:21:36,429 --> 00:21:36,759 ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS 698 00:21:36,762 --> 00:21:38,428 ULTIMATELY. 699 00:21:38,431 --> 00:21:39,495 LET THEM POST WHAT -- LET THEM 700 00:21:39,498 --> 00:21:41,798 DIRECT THE CORPORATION POST WHAT 701 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:44,767 THEY WANT TO POST IN THE LEAST 702 00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:47,070 ONEROUS WAY POSSIBLE. 703 00:21:47,073 --> 00:21:49,205 PUTTING TEACHERS IN THIS 704 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:51,274 SITUATION, THEY AREN'T PREPPING 705 00:21:51,277 --> 00:21:58,181 MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY ARE 706 00:21:58,184 --> 00:22:00,183 PREPPING THE NIGHT BEFORE, 11:00 707 00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:03,720 OR 12:00 AT NIGHT, ONCE THEY GET 708 00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:06,656 THEIR OWN KIDS TO BED. 709 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:07,056 THIS HAS GOT TO BE ON 710 00:22:07,059 --> 00:22:09,258 TRANSPARENCY. 711 00:22:09,261 --> 00:22:11,160 THE ONEROUS HAS GOT TO BE ON THE 712 00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:12,762 PARENTS TO DO THE WORK TO GO ASK 713 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:14,697 THOSE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF THEM 714 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:16,733 ARE DOING THAT. 715 00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:19,235 THEY'RE DOING IT IN A PRETTY 716 00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:20,570 HOSTILE WAY, I WISH IT WAS MORE 717 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:22,305 THOUGHTFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE. 718 00:22:22,308 --> 00:22:23,106 TO PUT THIS ON TEACHER'S PLATE 719 00:22:23,109 --> 00:22:24,307 IS TOO MUCH. 720 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:26,576 >> ANN DeLANEY, TO WHAT MIKE 721 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:27,810 JUST TALKED ABOUT, IF THE SENATE 722 00:22:27,813 --> 00:22:30,179 CANGES THE BILL TO BE WHAT MIKE 723 00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:34,784 JUST INDICATED, TAKING IT OFF 724 00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:37,454 THE TEACHERS, FOCUSING ON 725 00:22:37,457 --> 00:22:38,788 TRANSPARENCY, IS THAT A GOOD 726 00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:41,858 PIECE OF LEGISLATION? 727 00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:42,224 >> CERTAINLY BETTER PIECE OF 728 00:22:42,227 --> 00:22:44,394 LEGISLATION. 729 00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:46,529 THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 730 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:48,398 HAVE THOUGHT CONTROL, AN EQUAL 731 00:22:48,401 --> 00:22:49,799 APPROACH TO ANY ISSUE NO MATTER 732 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:52,702 HOW HORRIFIC THAT HAS BEEN IN 733 00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:52,969 THE PAST HISTORY OF THE WORLD IS 734 00:22:52,972 --> 00:22:55,238 RIDICULOUS. 735 00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:59,442 I AGREE WITH MIKE. 736 00:22:59,445 --> 00:22:59,943 WE'VE PUT ENOUGH BURDEN ON 737 00:22:59,946 --> 00:23:02,145 TEACHERS. 738 00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:02,745 IT IS ALREADY A DIFFICULT ENOUGH 739 00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:03,980 PROFESSION, MADE MUCH MORE 740 00:23:03,983 --> 00:23:06,149 DIFFICULT BY THE PANDEMIC, NOW 741 00:23:06,152 --> 00:23:07,250 WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER 742 00:23:07,253 --> 00:23:11,688 ON THAT, IT'S CRAZY. 743 00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:12,555 IF PARENTS WANT TO HAVE A 744 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:13,823 CURRICULUM ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN 745 00:23:13,826 --> 00:23:15,491 THEIR DISTRICT WHERE THEY CAN 746 00:23:15,494 --> 00:23:16,826 DISCUSS A TIME, PARENTS CAN 747 00:23:16,829 --> 00:23:20,763 ALREADY PICK UP THE TEXTBOOK, 748 00:23:20,766 --> 00:23:23,432 THEY CAN ALREADY TALK TO THE 749 00:23:23,435 --> 00:23:24,700 TEACHERS, OR EMAIL THE TEACHERS 750 00:23:24,703 --> 00:23:26,235 AND ASK ABOUT THE CURRICULUM. 751 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:27,771 THERE IS NO BARRIER TO THAT NOW. 752 00:23:27,774 --> 00:23:29,305 AND IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 753 00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:31,140 IT, THEY CAN GO TO THE PRINCIPAL 754 00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:33,276 OR THE SUPERINTENDENT, OR THEY 755 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:34,644 CAN GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. 756 00:23:34,647 --> 00:23:36,379 WHY THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO GET 757 00:23:36,382 --> 00:23:37,980 IN THE MIDDLE OF ISSUES WHERE 758 00:23:37,983 --> 00:23:39,282 THEY CAN BE DEALT WITH ON A 759 00:23:39,285 --> 00:23:41,784 LOCAL LEVEL IS BEYOND ME. 760 00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:44,754 AND ANYTHING THAT PUTS MORE ON 761 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:45,021 THE TEACHERS' PLATE IS A BAD 762 00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:47,156 IDEA. 763 00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:48,391 WITH THIS BILL AND THIS CONCEPT, 764 00:23:48,394 --> 00:23:49,659 WE'RE ALREADY THE LAUGHINGSTOCK 765 00:23:49,662 --> 00:23:50,793 OF THE COUNTRY. 766 00:23:50,796 --> 00:23:52,295 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT AT 767 00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:53,663 THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO 768 00:23:53,666 --> 00:23:53,863 RECRUIT NEW BUSINESS INTO THIS 769 00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:56,733 STATE. 770 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:56,866 LOTS OF LUCK WITH THAT. 771 00:23:56,869 --> 00:23:57,467 >> 772 00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:58,401 INDIANA LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 773 00:23:58,404 --> 00:24:00,737 INDICATED RECENTLY THE GENERAL 774 00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:02,071 ASSEMBLY WILL LIKELY HOLD OFF ON 775 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:03,272 ANY MAJOR ANTI-ABORTION 776 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:03,939 LEGISLATION THIS SESSION. 777 00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:04,540 LAWMAKERS WANT TO WAIT FOR THE 778 00:24:04,543 --> 00:24:05,441 US SUPREME COURT TO RULE ON THE 779 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,578 ISSUE LATER THIS YEAR BEFORE 780 00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:09,245 TAKING ACTION. 781 00:24:09,248 --> 00:24:10,613 >> THE FUTURE OF ABORTION RIGHTS 782 00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:12,148 MAY BE DECIDED BY THE SUPREME 783 00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:14,617 COURT THIS YEAR. AND INDIANA 784 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:15,251 SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM RODRIC 785 00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:15,819 BRAY SAYS IT'S BEST TO WAIT FOR 786 00:24:15,822 --> 00:24:16,752 THE DECISION BEFORE PASSING 787 00:24:16,755 --> 00:24:17,220 LEGISLATION. 788 00:24:17,223 --> 00:24:18,688 >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 789 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,756 (R-MARTINSVILLE): TO TRY AND 790 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:24,760 ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT MIGHT SAY 791 00:24:24,763 --> 00:24:27,463 AND DRAFT LEGISLATION TO 792 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:29,299 ANTICIPATE EVERY POSSIBLE 793 00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:30,433 SOLUTION OR OPINION THAT THEY 794 00:24:30,436 --> 00:24:31,467 COULD COME OUT WITH JUST LOOKS 795 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:32,035 COMPLETELY UNDOABLE TO ME. SO, I 796 00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:33,202 DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO TRY. 797 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:35,238 >> BUT ONCE THE COURT RULES, 798 00:24:35,241 --> 00:24:36,105 BRAY SAYS HE MIGHT ASK THE 799 00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:36,372 GOVERNOR TO CALL A SPECIAL 800 00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:38,374 SESSION. 801 00:24:38,377 --> 00:24:39,275 >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 802 00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:40,710 (R-MARTINSVILLE): I THINK WE'LL 803 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:41,344 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ADVOCATING 804 00:24:41,347 --> 00:24:42,078 THAT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY 805 00:24:42,081 --> 00:24:43,012 LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO TO MAKE A 806 00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:43,846 CHANGE HERE IN THE STATE, IF 807 00:24:43,849 --> 00:24:45,281 THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. 808 00:24:45,284 --> 00:24:46,282 >> THE COURT'S RULINGS COULD 809 00:24:46,285 --> 00:24:48,751 MEAN EVERYTHING FROM BANNING 810 00:24:48,754 --> 00:24:49,451 ABORTION OUTRIGHT TO RESTRICTING 811 00:24:49,454 --> 00:24:54,357 HOW LONG INTO PREGNANCY PEOPLE 812 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:55,592 CAN ACCESS ABORTION CARE. 813 00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:56,759 >> JON SCHWANTES, WILL GOP 814 00:24:56,762 --> 00:24:58,728 CONSTITUENTS FOR WHOM ABORTION 815 00:24:58,731 --> 00:24:59,962 IS ONE OF, IF NOT THE MOST 816 00:24:59,965 --> 00:25:03,800 IMPORTANT ISSUE BE OKAY WITH 817 00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:07,136 THIS WAIT-AND-SEE APPROACH? 818 00:25:07,139 --> 00:25:08,904 >> THEY'LL BE DISAPPOINTED. 819 00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:10,806 IF THERE WERE LEGISLATION, IT 820 00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:11,307 WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JULY 821 00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:12,275 1. 822 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:13,843 THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IS 823 00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,278 EXPECTED IN LATE JUNE. 824 00:25:15,281 --> 00:25:18,481 AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT MAKES 825 00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:20,616 SENSE TO WAIT AND SEE. 826 00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:22,184 >> NIKI KELLY, CHANCES VERY HIGH 827 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:23,920 WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION 828 00:25:23,923 --> 00:25:25,588 LATER THIS YEAR ON ABORTION? 829 00:25:25,591 --> 00:25:27,957 >> WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALL 830 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,324 DEPENDS ON HOW THAT RULING COMES 831 00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:30,226 DOWN. 832 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:45,241 IF THEY IN ANY WAY GIVE STATES 833 00:25:45,244 --> 00:25:45,575 MORE RIGHT TO CURTAIL ABORTION, 834 00:25:45,578 --> 00:25:46,242 ABSOLUTELY. 835 00:25:46,245 --> 00:25:46,576 THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 836 00:25:46,579 --> 00:25:47,110 FOR THIS WEEK. 837 00:25:47,113 --> 00:25:47,443 OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 838 00:25:47,446 --> 00:25:47,910 DELANEY. 839 00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:48,411 REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 840 00:25:48,414 --> 00:25:48,744 JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 841 00:25:48,747 --> 00:25:49,312 LAWMAKERS. 842 00:25:49,315 --> 00:25:49,779 AND NIKI KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE 843 00:25:49,782 --> 00:25:50,379 JOURNAL GAZETTE. 844 00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:50,980 IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 845 00:25:50,983 --> 00:25:51,580 PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 846 00:25:51,583 --> 00:25:52,381 WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 847 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:53,115 YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 848 00:25:53,118 --> 00:25:56,485 DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 849 00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:57,053 WFYI APP. 850 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,221 I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 851 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:03,259 PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 852 00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:04,794 STAY SAFE, STAY HEALTHY, PLEASE 853 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:05,428 GET VACCINATED IF YOU CAN. 854 00:26:05,431 --> 00:26:08,598 JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 855 00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:08,665 CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK. 856 00:26:08,733 --> 00:26:16,573 ♪♪ 857 00:26:28,486 --> 00:26:31,454 ♪♪ 858 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:38,595 >> THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE 859 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:42,031 SOLELY THOSE OF THE PANELISTS, 860 00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:43,232 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS A WFYI 861 00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:43,833 PRODUCTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH 862 00:26:43,836 --> 00:26:52,441 INDIANA'S PUBLIC BROADCASTING 863 00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:53,608 STATIONS. 864 00:26:53,611 --> 00:26:53,842 >> BANNING TRANS STUDENTS FROM 865 00:26:53,845 --> 00:26:55,878 SPORTS. 866 00:26:55,881 --> 00:26:57,412 ABSENTEE MAIL-IN VOTING 867 00:26:57,415 --> 00:26:57,946 RESTRICTED. 868 00:26:57,949 --> 00:26:59,682 PLUS, CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL 869 00:26:59,685 --> 00:27:00,549 CURRICULUM BILL AND MORE ON 870 00:27:00,552 --> 00:27:06,555 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE 871 00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:08,890 WEEK ENDING JANUARY 28, 2022. 872 00:27:08,893 --> 00:27:10,992 >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 873 00:27:10,995 --> 00:27:14,096 MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 874 00:27:14,099 --> 00:27:15,864 OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 875 00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:17,066 STATIONS. 876 00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:18,066 >> THIS WEEK, PROTESTS ERUPTED 877 00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:18,667 IN THE INDIANA HOUSE CHAMBER 878 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:21,003 FOLLOWING A COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL 879 00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:21,669 OF A BILL RESTRICTING 880 00:27:21,672 --> 00:27:24,206 TRANSGENDER GIRLS' ACCESS TO 881 00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:24,806 SCHOOL SPORTS. THE VOTE CAME 882 00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:26,041 AFTER HOURS OF TESTIMONY FROM 883 00:27:26,044 --> 00:27:28,243 HOOSIERS WHO MOSTLY OPPOSE THE 884 00:27:28,246 --> 00:27:30,078 MEASURE. 885 00:27:30,081 --> 00:27:32,914 >> THE LEGISLATION WOULD 886 00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:34,049 PROHIBIT TRANSGENDER GIRLS FROM 887 00:27:34,052 --> 00:27:34,783 JOINING GIRLS SCHOOL SPORTS 888 00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:36,284 TEAMS. REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE 889 00:27:36,287 --> 00:27:37,686 MICHELLE DAVIS IS ITS AUTHOR. 890 00:27:37,689 --> 00:27:38,987 >> REP. MICHELLE DAVIS 891 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:41,923 (R-WHITELAND): THE PURPOSE OF 892 00:27:41,926 --> 00:27:42,524 THIS BILL IS TO MAINTAIN FAIR 893 00:27:42,527 --> 00:27:43,058 COMPETITION IN GIRLS SPORTS. 894 00:27:43,061 --> 00:27:46,094 >> BUT MANY PEOPLE OPPOSED TO 895 00:27:46,097 --> 00:27:47,529 THE BILL SAY IT'S ANOTHER WAY TO 896 00:27:47,532 --> 00:27:48,163 DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AN 897 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,065 ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE GROUP OF 898 00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:50,599 CHILDREN. CHRIS PAULSEN FROM 899 00:27:50,602 --> 00:27:53,602 INDIANA YOUTH GROUP JOINED 900 00:27:53,605 --> 00:27:54,135 SEVERAL OTHERS WHO POINTED OUT 901 00:27:54,138 --> 00:27:54,703 THE MENTAL HEALTH RISKS 902 00:27:54,706 --> 00:27:57,072 TRANSGENDER YOUTH FACE, 903 00:27:57,075 --> 00:27:58,073 ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR IDENTITY 904 00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:00,542 IS TARGETED BY POLITICIANS. 905 00:28:00,545 --> 00:28:01,376 >> CHRIS PAULSEN: THE TREVOR 906 00:28:01,379 --> 00:28:05,380 PROJECT'S 2021 SURVEY OF NEARLY 907 00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:07,082 35 THOUSAND YOUTH AGES 13 TO 24 908 00:28:07,085 --> 00:28:10,085 SHOW THAT MORE THAN 50 PERCENT 909 00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:12,488 OF TRANSGENDER YOUTH HAVE 910 00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:13,956 SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED SUICIDE IN 911 00:28:13,959 --> 00:28:14,322 THE PAST YEAR. 912 00:28:14,325 --> 00:28:14,956 >> THE BILL 913 00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:17,025 PASSED THE FULL HOUSE THURSDAY. 914 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:17,292 WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS BILL 915 00:28:17,295 --> 00:28:22,030 SOLVING? 916 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,533 IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 917 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:25,534 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANE.L 918 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:26,001 DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY. 919 00:28:26,004 --> 00:28:28,670 REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 920 00:28:28,673 --> 00:28:30,038 JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 921 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:30,772 LAWMAKERS, AND NIKI KELLY, 922 00:28:30,775 --> 00:28:31,306 STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE FORT 923 00:28:31,309 --> 00:28:34,042 WAYNE JOURNAL GAZETTE. 924 00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:35,243 I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 925 00:28:35,246 --> 00:28:35,444 STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 926 00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:38,079 SMITH. 927 00:28:38,082 --> 00:28:39,247 ANN DELANEY, DOESN'T THE IHSAA 928 00:28:39,250 --> 00:28:43,084 ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE 929 00:28:43,087 --> 00:28:44,186 TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE? 930 00:28:44,189 --> 00:28:45,754 DO THEY NOT? 931 00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:47,255 >> THEY DO. 932 00:28:47,258 --> 00:28:47,790 IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESS, AS A 933 00:28:47,793 --> 00:28:49,657 MATTER OF FACT. 934 00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:52,160 THIS ISN'T ABOUT FAIRNESS, IT'S 935 00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:53,328 ABOUT HATRED. 936 00:28:53,331 --> 00:28:55,397 I THINK REPRESENTATIVE TONYA 937 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,933 PFAFF SAID IT VERY WELL. 938 00:28:57,936 --> 00:28:58,133 IT'S A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A 939 00:28:58,136 --> 00:29:00,469 PROBLEM. 940 00:29:00,472 --> 00:29:01,036 THEY COULDN'T EVEN POINT TO 941 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:02,070 SOMEONE DEFINITIVELY WHO FIT 942 00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:07,109 INTO THIS CATEGORY. 943 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:09,077 AND THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE 944 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,546 HUNDREDS OF TEENAGE BOYS LINING 945 00:29:11,549 --> 00:29:12,547 UP TO GET SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, 946 00:29:12,550 --> 00:29:15,283 AND THE TRAUMA THAT THAT 947 00:29:15,286 --> 00:29:17,419 CHANGE -- THE CHANGES THAT THAT 948 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:18,954 MEANS TO THEIR LIVES GOING 949 00:29:18,957 --> 00:29:20,655 FORWARD, ALL TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL 950 00:29:20,658 --> 00:29:23,191 BASKETBALL IS RIDICULOUS. 951 00:29:23,194 --> 00:29:26,361 I MEAN, SHE IS SINGLING OUT 952 00:29:26,364 --> 00:29:27,729 PEOPLE JUST TO SHOW THAT SHE IS, 953 00:29:27,732 --> 00:29:28,964 AGAIN, FAR TO THE RIGHT, WHICH 954 00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:29,898 IS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS 955 00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:32,501 ON THIS. 956 00:29:32,504 --> 00:29:34,803 AND THE DEMOCRATS WERE UNANIMOUS 957 00:29:34,806 --> 00:29:35,537 ON OPPOSING THIS AS THEY SHOULD 958 00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:36,738 BE. 959 00:29:36,741 --> 00:29:38,040 BECAUSE IT DOES DISCRIMINATE. 960 00:29:38,043 --> 00:29:39,107 AND BY THE WAY, IT ONLY 961 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:40,809 DISCRIMINATES ONE WAY, IT 962 00:29:40,812 --> 00:29:41,910 DISCRIMINATES AGAINST BOYS WHO 963 00:29:41,913 --> 00:29:43,278 HAVE THE SEX CHANGE OPERATION 964 00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:45,914 BECOME GIRLS. 965 00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:47,216 WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER? 966 00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:48,283 THAT DOES OCCUR. 967 00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:51,286 ARE WE GOING TO SAY IT IS OKAY 968 00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:53,555 FOR THEM TO PLAY, OR ARE THEY 969 00:29:53,558 --> 00:29:55,156 SAYING WOMEN AREN'T VERY GOOD AT 970 00:29:55,159 --> 00:29:57,893 SPORTS ANYWAY, SO IT DOESN'T 971 00:29:57,896 --> 00:29:59,127 MATTER IN THAT CONTEXT. 972 00:29:59,130 --> 00:30:01,864 THE WHOLE BILL IS RIDICULOUS. 973 00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:02,931 ALL IT DOES IS STIR UP THE 974 00:30:02,934 --> 00:30:05,066 REPUBLICAN BASE TO HATE ANOTHER 975 00:30:05,069 --> 00:30:07,202 GROUP OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE THEIR 976 00:30:07,205 --> 00:30:08,937 PROBLEMS, AND HAVE THEIR 977 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:10,872 ADVERSITY TO FACE ON THEIR OWN 978 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:12,407 WITHOUT THIS ADDITIONAL BURDEN. 979 00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:13,442 >> MIKE O'BRIEN, FAIRNESS AND 980 00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:17,412 COMPETITION IS WHAT WE HEARD 981 00:30:17,415 --> 00:30:17,746 FROM THE PROPONENTS OF THIS 982 00:30:17,749 --> 00:30:19,481 BILL. 983 00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:22,150 ARE YOU BUYING THAT? 984 00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:24,219 >> FIRST, I DON'T THINK THIS IS 985 00:30:24,222 --> 00:30:26,988 DRIVEN BY HATRED AT ALL. 986 00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:28,090 I THINK IT IS DRIVEN BY 987 00:30:28,093 --> 00:30:29,824 MISUNDERSTANDING, FEAR, CONCERN 988 00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:30,091 FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME 989 00:30:30,094 --> 00:30:33,695 SCHOOLS. 990 00:30:33,698 --> 00:30:34,963 AND THE POLITICS OF THIS, ANN'S 991 00:30:34,966 --> 00:30:36,698 WRONG, THIS ISN'T FAR RIGHT. 992 00:30:36,701 --> 00:30:40,769 WHAT IS DRIVING THIS ARE 993 00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:43,438 COMMUNITIES THAT ARE 994 00:30:43,441 --> 00:30:45,106 TRADITIONALLY MODERATE, DRIVING 995 00:30:45,109 --> 00:30:47,509 A LOT OF THE CONCERN HERE WHERE 996 00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:48,443 YOU HAVE A VERY VOCAL 997 00:30:48,446 --> 00:30:50,479 TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. 998 00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:52,614 I THINK IF YOU WENT TO PLACES 999 00:30:52,617 --> 00:30:53,682 THAT WE BELIEVE ARE 1000 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:59,354 TRANSITIONING FROM A REPUBLICAN 1001 00:30:59,357 --> 00:31:02,057 TO A DEMOCRAT AREA, MAYBE PURPLE 1002 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:05,460 AREAS, THE -- THEY WERE MAYBE, I 1003 00:31:05,463 --> 00:31:08,296 THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE 1004 00:31:08,299 --> 00:31:10,065 POLITICAL DIAGRAM OF THESE 1005 00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:11,499 PEOPLE, FOR GAY MARRIAGE AND 1006 00:31:11,502 --> 00:31:12,734 AGAINST TRANSGENDER ATHLETES. 1007 00:31:12,737 --> 00:31:13,602 IS THIS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF 1008 00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:15,170 A PROBLEM? 1009 00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,071 THERE IS NO EXAMPLES OF THIS 1010 00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:18,073 HERE. 1011 00:31:18,076 --> 00:31:19,741 I DO THINK REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS 1012 00:31:19,744 --> 00:31:22,611 IS CORRECT THAT WE'RE HEADING 1013 00:31:22,614 --> 00:31:24,245 THAT DIRECTION WHERE THIS IS 1014 00:31:24,248 --> 00:31:27,182 GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. 1015 00:31:27,185 --> 00:31:27,382 AGAIN, ANN, I STRUGGLE WITH 1016 00:31:27,385 --> 00:31:33,589 THIS. 1017 00:31:33,592 --> 00:31:35,490 I WAS WAY OUT IN FRONT ON THE 1018 00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:36,991 GAY MARRIAGE ISSUE, WORKED WITH 1019 00:31:36,994 --> 00:31:39,594 CHRIS PAULSEN IF YOU LOOK AT 1020 00:31:39,597 --> 00:31:40,629 PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT 1021 00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:42,530 HATEFUL, VERY REASONABLE AND 1022 00:31:42,533 --> 00:31:44,099 LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND SAY I 1023 00:31:44,102 --> 00:31:46,068 JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT YET. 1024 00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:48,036 >> YOU THINK THAT'S THE 1025 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,338 MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR A SEX 1026 00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:51,073 CHANGE OPERATION, TO PLAY 1027 00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:52,708 SPORTS? 1028 00:31:52,711 --> 00:31:54,509 >> I THINK IF -- IT'S HARD 1029 00:31:54,512 --> 00:31:55,510 ENOUGH TO BE A TEENAGER, IF 1030 00:31:55,513 --> 00:31:55,843 YO'RE TRANSGENDER IT IS 1031 00:31:55,846 --> 00:32:00,315 IMPOSSIBLE. 1032 00:32:00,318 --> 00:32:02,851 IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH 1033 00:32:02,854 --> 00:32:05,554 THAT PROCESS, IT'S -- THAT'S A 1034 00:32:05,557 --> 00:32:06,154 MONUMENTAL THING IN YOUR LIFE, I 1035 00:32:06,157 --> 00:32:07,255 DON'T THINK PLAYING MEN'S 1036 00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:07,622 BASKETBALL IS THE NEXT THING ON 1037 00:32:07,625 --> 00:32:09,157 YOUR LIST. 1038 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,392 >> NIKI KELLY, AS WE'VE HEARD 1039 00:32:10,395 --> 00:32:12,260 NOW, DEBATE IN THE COMMITTEE, 1040 00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:13,628 AND THEN ON THE FLOOR, ARE 1041 00:32:13,631 --> 00:32:16,631 REPUBLICANS WHO ARE PUSHING THIS 1042 00:32:16,634 --> 00:32:18,466 BILL DOING A GOOD JOB TO 1043 00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:20,368 INDICATING THIS IS -- THESE ARE 1044 00:32:20,371 --> 00:32:20,568 THE EXACT REASONS WHY WE NEED 1045 00:32:20,571 --> 00:32:22,738 IT? 1046 00:32:22,741 --> 00:32:23,872 >> WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE 1047 00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:28,176 FOCUSING ON ONE THING ONLY, 1048 00:32:28,179 --> 00:32:30,545 WHICH IS THEY'RE SAYING THERE IS 1049 00:32:30,548 --> 00:32:33,415 UNFAIR PERFORMANCE EDGES. 1050 00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:35,417 THAT SOMEONE WHO IS BORN A MALE, 1051 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,818 HAS BETTER LUNG CAPACITY, 1052 00:32:36,821 --> 00:32:37,719 TALLER, MORE MUSCLE MASS, THINGS 1053 00:32:37,722 --> 00:32:39,821 LIKE THAT. 1054 00:32:39,824 --> 00:32:40,722 THEY'RE FOCUSING ON SORT OF THE 1055 00:32:40,725 --> 00:32:44,159 ADVANTAGES THAT THAT WOULD GIVE 1056 00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:45,894 IF THEY WOULD THEN TRANSITION TO 1057 00:32:45,897 --> 00:32:47,262 A FEMALE SPORT. 1058 00:32:47,265 --> 00:32:49,064 THE FASCINATING PART ABOUT MOST 1059 00:32:49,067 --> 00:32:51,700 OF IT, THERE ARE EXAMPLES OUT 1060 00:32:51,703 --> 00:32:54,069 THERE THAT CAUSE ISSUES, BUT 1061 00:32:54,072 --> 00:32:55,103 MOSTLY IN COLLEGIATE SPORTS, THE 1062 00:32:55,106 --> 00:32:57,039 BILL ORIGINALLY COVERED COLLEGE 1063 00:32:57,042 --> 00:32:59,007 SPORTS, THEY TOOK IT OUT WITHOUT 1064 00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:02,077 A WORD OF EXPLANATION. 1065 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,645 I THINK WE CAN ALL SURMISE THAT 1066 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,647 THE NCAA WAS PROBABLY NOT A FAN 1067 00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:06,347 OF IT. 1068 00:33:06,350 --> 00:33:09,150 THAT'S THE ARENA WHERE WE'RE 1069 00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:11,720 SEEING SOME OF THESE ISSUES 1070 00:33:11,723 --> 00:33:14,122 HAPPEN MORE THAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. 1071 00:33:14,125 --> 00:33:15,590 AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. 1072 00:33:15,593 --> 00:33:15,791 >> JON SCHWANTES -- WE'VE 1073 00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:17,859 SEEN -- 1074 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:20,061 >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE IS 1075 00:33:20,064 --> 00:33:20,295 NOTHING FAIR, I'M SORRY, GO 1076 00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:21,730 AHEAD. 1077 00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:24,599 >> WE'VE SEEN OTHER BILLS LIKE 1078 00:33:24,602 --> 00:33:26,601 THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, SOME A 1079 00:33:26,604 --> 00:33:28,103 LOT STRICTER THAN THIS ONE. 1080 00:33:28,106 --> 00:33:29,303 A LOT OF THOSE BILLS HAVE 1081 00:33:29,306 --> 00:33:32,474 RECEIVED A LOT MORE NATIONAL 1082 00:33:32,477 --> 00:33:34,075 ATTENTION THAN I FEEL LIKE 1083 00:33:34,078 --> 00:33:36,010 INDIANA'S BILL IS GETTING. 1084 00:33:36,013 --> 00:33:37,412 NOT SAYING IT IS GETTING NO 1085 00:33:37,415 --> 00:33:39,147 ATTENTION, BUT CERTAINLY NOT ON 1086 00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:43,251 THE SCALE OF OTHER STATES. 1087 00:33:43,254 --> 00:33:44,352 WHY IS THIS ONE SORT OF FLYING 1088 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:46,087 UNDER THE RADAR? 1089 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:47,956 >> I THINK IF INDIANA HAD BEEN 1090 00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:50,492 THE FIRST STATE TO ADDRESS THIS 1091 00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:51,926 IN A LEGISLATIVE FASHION OR AT 1092 00:33:51,929 --> 00:33:53,495 LEAST THROUGH A PROPOSED 1093 00:33:53,498 --> 00:33:55,363 LEGISLATION, IT PROBABLY WOULD 1094 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:56,297 HAVE BEEN A PROMINENT NATIONAL 1095 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,167 STORY. 1096 00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:00,335 YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET IN 1097 00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:01,736 DISCUSSIONS OF WHY VARIOUS 1098 00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:03,371 EDITORIAL DECISIONS ARE MADE AND 1099 00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:05,774 WHAT CONSTITUTES NEWS. 1100 00:34:05,777 --> 00:34:07,675 AS EACH STATE WRESTLES WITH 1101 00:34:07,678 --> 00:34:08,710 THIS, IT PROBABLY BECOMES -- I'M 1102 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,078 NOT SAYING IT IS ANY LESS 1103 00:34:10,081 --> 00:34:12,514 SIGNIFICANT TO THE PEOPLE 1104 00:34:12,517 --> 00:34:15,250 AFFECTED BY THE POTENTIAL LAW, 1105 00:34:15,253 --> 00:34:17,619 BUT IN TERMS OF IT BEING A 1106 00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:19,654 NATIONAL NEWS STORY, IT STARTS 1107 00:34:19,657 --> 00:34:21,723 TO DIMINISH A BIT. 1108 00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,658 AND I THINK IT'S MORE -- IF YOU 1109 00:34:23,661 --> 00:34:25,326 LOOK AT IT NARROWLY ABOUT THE 1110 00:34:25,329 --> 00:34:28,997 COVERAGE IT RECEIVED, IT IS MORE 1111 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,432 ABOUT THAT PROBABLY THAN 1112 00:34:31,435 --> 00:34:33,735 ANYTHING MORE NUANCED ABOUT THE 1113 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:35,103 FINE POINTS OF THE BILL HERE ARE 1114 00:34:35,106 --> 00:34:37,272 HOW IT'S BEING DEBATED. 1115 00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:39,007 >> I WANT TO JUST MAKE ONE 1116 00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,508 POINT, THERE IS NOTHING FAIR 1117 00:34:40,511 --> 00:34:42,544 ABOUT SPORTS RIGHT NOW. 1118 00:34:42,547 --> 00:34:44,112 IF YOUR PARENTS HAVE THE MONEY, 1119 00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:45,981 THEY PUT YOU ON A TRAVELING TEAM 1120 00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:49,484 AND TAKE YOU PLACES, PAY FOR 1121 00:34:49,487 --> 00:34:50,919 SUMMER CAMPS, YOU HAVE A 1122 00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:52,821 TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE OVER KIDS 1123 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:53,154 WHOSE PARENTS DON'T HAVE THOSE 1124 00:34:53,157 --> 00:34:53,788 RESOURCES. 1125 00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:55,557 NOBODY IS WORRIED ABOUT THE 1126 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,225 FAIRNESS OF THAT PART OF IT, 1127 00:34:57,228 --> 00:34:57,492 WHICH I FIND REALLY KIND OF 1128 00:34:57,495 --> 00:34:59,327 IRONIC 1129 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:00,962 >> I AM SURPRISED THAT ANN MADE 1130 00:35:00,965 --> 00:35:03,832 THE POINT EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE 1131 00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:06,034 BILL IS CRAFTED SO IT DEALS ONLY 1132 00:35:06,037 --> 00:35:07,602 WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE ARE 1133 00:35:07,605 --> 00:35:10,038 BORN GENETICALLY BORN AS MALES, 1134 00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:12,440 AND ARE TRANSITIONING TO FEMALE. 1135 00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:15,177 IT DOES SEEM THAT IF IN FACT 1136 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,913 THIS IS ALL ABOUT FAIRNESS, ONE 1137 00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:19,214 COULD ARGUE THAT THE BILL SHOULD 1138 00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:24,285 BE BROADENED, AT LEAST THE 1139 00:35:24,288 --> 00:35:25,820 LANGUAGE, TO SAY IF YOU'RE 1140 00:35:25,823 --> 00:35:27,021 COMPETING OUTSIDE THE SPORT 1141 00:35:27,024 --> 00:35:27,189 CLASSIFICATION IN WHICH YOU WERE 1142 00:35:27,192 --> 00:35:30,058 BORN. 1143 00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:31,793 I CAN SEE PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS 1144 00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:35,397 PICKING -- NARROWLY DEFINING THE 1145 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,530 LAW IN A WAY IT SHOULDN'T BE. 1146 00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:36,131 >> 1147 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:36,598 TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 1148 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:37,198 EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 1149 00:35:37,201 --> 00:35:38,133 UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 1150 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:40,669 QUESTION. 1151 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:42,070 THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: 1152 00:35:42,073 --> 00:35:42,703 SHOULD TRANSGENDER STUDENTS BE 1153 00:35:42,706 --> 00:35:44,706 BANNED FROM PARTICIPATING IN 1154 00:35:44,709 --> 00:35:47,675 GIRLS' HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS? 1155 00:35:47,678 --> 00:35:48,142 A, YES, OR B, NO. 1156 00:35:48,145 --> 00:35:48,676 LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: 1157 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,078 WILL THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1158 00:35:50,081 --> 00:35:53,815 ELIMINATE INDIANA'S LICENSE 1159 00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:54,082 REQUIREMENT TO CARRY A HANDGUN 1160 00:35:54,085 --> 00:35:56,818 THIS YEAR? 1161 00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:59,020 THIS ONE WAS CLOSER THAN I WAS 1162 00:35:59,023 --> 00:36:00,956 EXPECTING, 44% YES, 56 NO. 1163 00:36:00,959 --> 00:36:02,957 I SUGGEST THE CHANCES ARE A LOT 1164 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,959 HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT WE'LL FIND 1165 00:36:04,962 --> 00:36:06,027 OUT IN THE COMING WEEKS. 1166 00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:07,328 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 1167 00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:12,533 IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 1168 00:36:12,536 --> 00:36:13,468 AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 1169 00:36:13,471 --> 00:36:16,671 CHANGES TO AN ELECTIONS BILL IN 1170 00:36:16,674 --> 00:36:18,072 A HOUSE COMMITTEE THIS WEEK WILL 1171 00:36:18,075 --> 00:36:20,575 MAKE IT HARDER FOR HOOSIERS TO 1172 00:36:20,578 --> 00:36:21,977 VOTE ABSENTEE BY MAIL. 1173 00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:23,211 >> THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE 1174 00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:24,579 APPROVED LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, IF 1175 00:36:24,582 --> 00:36:26,080 YOU WANT TO VOTE ABSENTEE BY 1176 00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:28,383 MAIL, YOU MUST ATTEST THAT YOU 1177 00:36:28,386 --> 00:36:30,018 WON'T BE AVAILABLE ON ELECTION 1178 00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:30,652 DAY OR - AND THIS IS THE NEW 1179 00:36:30,655 --> 00:36:34,088 PART - ANY TIME IN THE 28 DAYS 1180 00:36:34,091 --> 00:36:35,790 BEFORE THE ELECTION, WHEN EARLY 1181 00:36:35,793 --> 00:36:36,891 VOTING IS AVAILABLE. 1182 00:36:36,894 --> 00:36:38,092 REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE TIM 1183 00:36:38,095 --> 00:36:38,793 WESCO. 1184 00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:41,429 >> REP. TIM WESCO (R-OSCEOLA): I 1185 00:36:41,432 --> 00:36:42,063 BELIEVE THE BEST POLICY IS TO 1186 00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:43,765 ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO VOTE IN 1187 00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:44,733 PERSON, WHETHER ON ELECTION DAY 1188 00:36:44,736 --> 00:36:45,000 OR IN PERSON EARLY, AS MUCH AS 1189 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:46,200 POSSIBLE. 1190 00:36:46,203 --> 00:36:48,536 >> DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE ED 1191 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:50,071 DELANEY SAYS THAT PUTS A GREATER 1192 00:36:50,074 --> 00:36:51,806 BURDEN ON VOTERS, PARTICULARLY 1193 00:36:51,809 --> 00:36:52,406 IN COUNTIES WITH FEW EARLY 1194 00:36:52,409 --> 00:36:53,041 VOTING LOCATIONS. AND HE 1195 00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:54,842 QUESTIONED WHY THE CHANGE IS 1196 00:36:54,845 --> 00:36:55,843 NECESSARY. 1197 00:36:55,846 --> 00:36:57,045 >> REP. ED 1198 00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:57,845 DELANEY(D-INDIANAPOLIS): I THINK 1199 00:36:57,848 --> 00:36:59,914 THE ANSWER'S APPARENT. THE 1200 00:36:59,917 --> 00:37:01,449 ANSWER IS, WE WANT TO REDUCE THE 1201 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:03,918 NUMBER OF VOTERS. WHY DON'T YOU 1202 00:37:03,921 --> 00:37:05,553 JUST SAY THAT. 1203 00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:06,087 >> THE BILL IS UP FOR PASSAGE IN 1204 00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:08,490 THE HOUSE NEXT WEEK. 1205 00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:09,090 >> MIKE O'BRIEN, WHY NOT JUST 1206 00:37:09,093 --> 00:37:12,761 GET RID OF ABSENTEE MAIL-IN 1207 00:37:12,764 --> 00:37:16,831 VOTING ENTIRELY? 1208 00:37:16,834 --> 00:37:20,101 I'M NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE 1209 00:37:20,104 --> 00:37:22,070 ELECTION DAY OR 28 DAYS BEFORE. 1210 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:25,974 >> I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS A 1211 00:37:25,977 --> 00:37:28,476 WEIRD DEAL, THIS -- BECAUSE I 1212 00:37:28,479 --> 00:37:29,644 ALWAYS VOTED ABSENTEE, OR VOTE 1213 00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:31,246 IN PERSON EARLY. 1214 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:31,713 I WAS NEVER AVAILABLE ON 1215 00:37:31,716 --> 00:37:33,782 ELECTION DAY. 1216 00:37:33,785 --> 00:37:35,416 I WAS ALWAYS WORKING ELECTIONS, 1217 00:37:35,419 --> 00:37:38,053 MIGHT AS WELL TAKE THE EASY WAY 1218 00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:40,321 OUT HERE AND -- NOW I CAN'T 1219 00:37:40,324 --> 00:37:42,090 ANYMORE WITHOUT JUST STRAIGHT UP 1220 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:45,460 BEING -- VIOLATING THE SPIRIT OF 1221 00:37:45,463 --> 00:37:46,728 THE LAW BEFORE. 1222 00:37:46,731 --> 00:37:49,564 THE ACTUALLY LETTER. 1223 00:37:49,567 --> 00:37:50,631 THAT WAS THE POINT BEFORE, BEING 1224 00:37:50,634 --> 00:37:51,399 UNAVAILABLE WHEN GIVEN THE 1225 00:37:51,402 --> 00:37:52,667 OPPORTUNITY IN PERSON. 1226 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:54,835 I'M A TRADITIONALIST, I 1227 00:37:54,838 --> 00:37:57,338 THINK -- I WOULD THINK WE MADE 1228 00:37:57,341 --> 00:37:58,339 IT WIDELY AND WILDLY AVAILABLE 1229 00:37:58,342 --> 00:38:01,108 VOTING IN THE LAST 20 YEARS IN 1230 00:38:01,111 --> 00:38:02,176 THIS STATE, CONTRARY TO WHAT 1231 00:38:02,179 --> 00:38:04,479 DEMOCRATS THINK, WHETHER VOTE 1232 00:38:04,482 --> 00:38:06,547 CENTERS OR SATELLITE VOTING, 1233 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:08,082 EARLY VOTING FOR 30 DAYS, OR 1234 00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:10,017 VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, WHICH IS 1235 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:12,286 WHAT WE DID TO START, IT WASN'T 1236 00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:13,755 THAT LONG AGO THAT WE DID THAT. 1237 00:38:13,758 --> 00:38:16,290 VAST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THIS 1238 00:38:16,293 --> 00:38:19,694 STATE. 1239 00:38:19,697 --> 00:38:20,895 FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE SOME 1240 00:38:20,898 --> 00:38:22,630 IDEOLOGICAL RIGID -- AS TIM 1241 00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:24,432 WESCO SAID, WE HAVE BEEN LIVING 1242 00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:25,700 ON THE HONOR SYSTEM FOREVER, I 1243 00:38:25,703 --> 00:38:28,036 THINK IT HAS WORKED. 1244 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,637 BOTH PARTIES HAVE THEIR OWN 1245 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,373 OPERATIONS THAT RECRUIT THEIR 1246 00:38:32,376 --> 00:38:32,840 OWN VOTERS TO VOTE ABSENTEE AND 1247 00:38:32,843 --> 00:38:35,443 VOTE EARLY. 1248 00:38:35,446 --> 00:38:36,911 SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT, 1249 00:38:36,914 --> 00:38:39,647 THEY'RE TRADITIONALISTS WHO WANT 1250 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:40,782 VOTING ON ELECTION DAY, THE 1251 00:38:40,785 --> 00:38:43,251 ELECTION OSTENSIBLY ENDS 30 DAYS 1252 00:38:43,254 --> 00:38:44,685 BEFORE ELECTION DAY FOR A LOT OF 1253 00:38:44,688 --> 00:38:45,787 PEOPLE, CAMPAIGNS DON'T LIKE 1254 00:38:45,790 --> 00:38:46,921 THAT, CANDIDATES DON'T LIKE 1255 00:38:46,924 --> 00:38:48,322 THAT, THE ENVIRONMENT CAN 1256 00:38:48,325 --> 00:38:49,156 CHANGE, THIS AND THAT. 1257 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,092 I DON'T THINK THIS WAS 1258 00:38:51,095 --> 00:38:52,660 NECESSARILY BROKEN IN INDIANA. 1259 00:38:52,663 --> 00:38:55,797 BUT I DO THINK CONTRARY TO WHAT 1260 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,033 DEMOCRATS THINK, WE HAVE MADE IT 1261 00:38:58,036 --> 00:39:01,602 MUCH EASIER TO VOTE IN INDIANA 1262 00:39:01,605 --> 00:39:02,804 OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. 1263 00:39:02,807 --> 00:39:08,543 >> [LAUGHTER] HOLD THAT THOUGHT. 1264 00:39:08,546 --> 00:39:10,078 >> I KNOW YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT 1265 00:39:10,081 --> 00:39:11,779 MIKE SAID. 1266 00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:16,284 TIM WESCO REFERENCED. 1267 00:39:16,287 --> 00:39:17,285 INDIANA DOES THIS ABSENTEE 1268 00:39:17,288 --> 00:39:18,820 VOTING LARGELY ON THE -- NOBODY 1269 00:39:18,823 --> 00:39:23,291 IS CHECKING THIS. 1270 00:39:23,294 --> 00:39:24,025 IS THIS REALLY GOING TO AFFECT 1271 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:26,494 HOW VOTERS VOTE? 1272 00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,563 >> WELL, YOU COULD HAVE A 1273 00:39:28,566 --> 00:39:31,433 SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY FINDS 1274 00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:33,801 OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO SENT IN 1275 00:39:33,804 --> 00:39:35,570 AN ABSENTEE BALLOT WAS PRESENT 1276 00:39:35,573 --> 00:39:35,837 AND HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST THAT 1277 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,305 PERSON. 1278 00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,140 THERE ARE CRIMINALS -- IF YOU 1279 00:39:39,143 --> 00:39:41,142 CHANGE YOUR MIND OR YOU THINK 1280 00:39:41,145 --> 00:39:42,510 YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE, OR YOU 1281 00:39:42,513 --> 00:39:45,313 THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE GONE 1282 00:39:45,316 --> 00:39:45,980 AND YOU'RE HERE, THERE ARE ALL 1283 00:39:45,983 --> 00:39:47,448 KINDS OF THINGS WHERE SOMEBODY 1284 00:39:47,451 --> 00:39:48,516 COULD MAKE TROUBLE BASED ON A 1285 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,051 CRIMINAL PROSECUTION NOW, THE 1286 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:51,653 HONOR SYSTEM APPARENTLY IS NO 1287 00:39:51,656 --> 00:39:52,420 LONGER GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS 1288 00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:54,489 STATE REPRESENTATIVE. 1289 00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:56,390 HE WANTS CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. 1290 00:39:56,393 --> 00:39:58,459 BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS 1291 00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:00,528 CAME OUT THE SAME WEEK THAT THE 1292 00:40:00,531 --> 00:40:02,463 CIVIC HEALTH INDEX CAME OUT, AND 1293 00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:05,433 INDIANA, DESPITE WHAT MIKE SAID, 1294 00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:07,635 HAS GONE FROM BEING 41st IN THE 1295 00:40:07,638 --> 00:40:09,370 STATE -- AMONG THE STATES TO 1296 00:40:09,373 --> 00:40:11,706 46th IN THE STATE. 1297 00:40:11,709 --> 00:40:14,075 YEARS AGO, YEARS AGO, WE WERE IN 1298 00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:16,177 THE TOP 10 IN TERMS OF TURNOUT. 1299 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:17,378 NOW, NOT ONLY THE BOTTOM 10, 1300 00:40:17,381 --> 00:40:18,847 WE'RE IN THE BOTTOM 5. 1301 00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,482 SO WE HAVE NOT MADE IT EASIER 1302 00:40:20,485 --> 00:40:22,217 FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE. 1303 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:25,286 WE HAVE PUT REPEATED OBSTACLES 1304 00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:28,423 IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE VOTING. 1305 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,058 >> THOSE STATS DON'T MATTER. 1306 00:40:30,061 --> 00:40:31,425 >> PARENTS DON'T -- REPUBLICANS 1307 00:40:31,428 --> 00:40:33,061 DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO VOTE. 1308 00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:34,028 >> WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR 1309 00:40:34,031 --> 00:40:37,065 IN VOTER MOTIVATION? 1310 00:40:37,068 --> 00:40:39,567 >> AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 1311 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:40,501 AND THE CIVIC HEALTH INDEX 1312 00:40:40,504 --> 00:40:40,868 ITSELF SHOWS HOW MUCH WE'VE 1313 00:40:40,871 --> 00:40:42,504 SLIPPED. 1314 00:40:42,507 --> 00:40:44,072 >> I THINK IT SHOWS HOW WE HAVE 1315 00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:44,906 NO COMPETITIVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 1316 00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:46,674 IN INDIANA. 1317 00:40:46,677 --> 00:40:50,912 BECAUSE THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO 1318 00:40:50,915 --> 00:40:53,581 GO VOTE IS BECAUSE IT'S 1319 00:40:53,584 --> 00:40:54,014 COMPETITIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF 1320 00:40:54,017 --> 00:40:54,916 GERRYMANDERING. 1321 00:40:54,919 --> 00:40:55,316 >> IT IS EXACTLY BECAUSE OF 1322 00:40:55,319 --> 00:41:01,222 GERRYMANDERING. 1323 00:41:01,225 --> 00:41:01,489 THAT IS WHY THERE IS NO 1324 00:41:01,492 --> 00:41:03,824 COMPETITION. 1325 00:41:03,827 --> 00:41:03,992 BECAUSE YOU GERRYMANDERED IT SO 1326 00:41:03,995 --> 00:41:05,660 WELL. 1327 00:41:05,663 --> 00:41:05,826 >> YOU'RE A THIRD PLACE PARTY, 1328 00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:08,262 ANN. 1329 00:41:08,265 --> 00:41:08,630 WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER 1330 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,064 CONSERVATIVES 1331 00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:12,200 >> YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU 1332 00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:13,434 WOULD BE HAPPY ENOUGH THAT THE 1333 00:41:13,437 --> 00:41:14,903 GERRYMANDERING RESULTS THAT YOU 1334 00:41:14,906 --> 00:41:16,070 WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RESTRICT 1335 00:41:16,073 --> 00:41:18,739 REGISTRATION AND VOTING, BUT 1336 00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:22,410 THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS. 1337 00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:23,978 >> YOU'RE JUST ABSURD. 1338 00:41:23,981 --> 00:41:26,080 >> JON SCHWANTES, DO YOU FEEL 1339 00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:27,682 LIKE THIS IS -- I FEEL LIKE I'M 1340 00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:29,283 ASKING A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT I 1341 00:41:29,286 --> 00:41:33,688 ASKED ON THE LAST TOPIC. 1342 00:41:33,691 --> 00:41:34,021 WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THIS 1343 00:41:34,024 --> 00:41:35,557 LEGISLATION? 1344 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,125 >> PROBABLY NO NEED. 1345 00:41:38,128 --> 00:41:38,560 THE MOTIVATION, I THINK, IS CUT 1346 00:41:38,563 --> 00:41:40,861 AND DRIED. 1347 00:41:40,864 --> 00:41:41,062 REPUBLICANS WANT FEWER PEOPLE TO 1348 00:41:41,065 --> 00:41:43,665 VOTE. 1349 00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:47,501 THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 1350 00:41:47,504 --> 00:41:50,605 LET'S NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH. 1351 00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:52,339 IT'S -- I AGREE WITH MIKE THAT 1352 00:41:52,342 --> 00:41:53,374 IDEALLY WE'D ALL -- I LOVE THE 1353 00:41:53,377 --> 00:41:54,542 TRADITION OF EVERYBODY GOING TO 1354 00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:56,677 THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY. 1355 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,878 IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A 1356 00:41:57,881 --> 00:42:00,648 BIPARTISAN COMMISSION, FEDERAL 1357 00:42:00,651 --> 00:42:05,186 COMMISSION, I THINK IT WAS 1358 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:09,223 CO-CHAIRED MAYBE BY GERALD FORD 1359 00:42:09,226 --> 00:42:10,625 AND JIMMY CARTER, LET'S MAKE 1360 00:42:10,628 --> 00:42:11,693 THIS SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT 1361 00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:13,428 EVERYBODY WORKS TOGETHER. 1362 00:42:13,431 --> 00:42:14,428 I WOULD LOVE THAT, WE DON'T LIVE 1363 00:42:14,431 --> 00:42:18,065 IN LA LA LAND. 1364 00:42:18,068 --> 00:42:19,367 SEEMS TO ME, WELL, WE CAN DEBATE 1365 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:20,901 THE VOTER SECURITY. 1366 00:42:20,904 --> 00:42:22,737 BUT WE CAN'T DEBATE THE 1367 00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:23,938 MOTIVATION HERE, WHICH IS TO 1368 00:42:23,941 --> 00:42:24,272 REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 1369 00:42:24,275 --> 00:42:26,540 VOTING. 1370 00:42:26,543 --> 00:42:31,846 THAT IS PRETTY CLEAR. 1371 00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:34,081 >> NIKI KELLY, TIM WESCO KIND OF 1372 00:42:34,084 --> 00:42:36,517 INDIRECTLY CAST SOME DOUBT ON 1373 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,052 THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF 1374 00:42:38,055 --> 00:42:38,286 MAIL-IN VOTING DURING THAT HOUSE 1375 00:42:38,289 --> 00:42:40,021 COMMITTEE. 1376 00:42:40,024 --> 00:42:40,888 IS THERE ANY WIDE EVIDENCE OF 1377 00:42:40,891 --> 00:42:43,124 WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD WHEN IT 1378 00:42:43,127 --> 00:42:44,725 COMES TO MAIL-IN VOTING. 1379 00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:46,193 WE HAVE STATES WHO FOR TWO 1380 00:42:46,196 --> 00:42:47,762 DECADES HAVE BEEN DOING 1381 00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:50,064 EXCLUSIVELY MAIL-IN VOTING? 1382 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:52,033 >> NO, THERE ISN'T. 1383 00:42:52,036 --> 00:42:53,301 SURE, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND AN 1384 00:42:53,304 --> 00:42:53,567 OCCASIONAL INSTANCE HERE OR 1385 00:42:53,570 --> 00:42:54,134 THERE. 1386 00:42:54,137 --> 00:42:55,703 SOMETIMES IT IS ON THE 1387 00:42:55,706 --> 00:42:56,504 REPUBLICAN SIDE AND SOMETIMES ON 1388 00:42:56,507 --> 00:42:58,072 THE DEMOCRAT SIDE. 1389 00:42:58,075 --> 00:43:00,107 ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE WITH 1390 00:43:00,110 --> 00:43:02,009 THIS WHOLE NOTION OF THE ENTIRE 1391 00:43:02,012 --> 00:43:02,843 MONTH BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE. 1392 00:43:02,846 --> 00:43:05,313 THIS 28 DAYS THING. 1393 00:43:05,316 --> 00:43:07,348 FOR A LOT OF COUNTIES, THOUGH, 1394 00:43:07,351 --> 00:43:07,715 THAT -- YOU CAN'T VOTE ALL 28 1395 00:43:07,718 --> 00:43:10,051 DAYS. 1396 00:43:10,054 --> 00:43:11,352 A LOT OF COUNTIES JUST HAVE 1397 00:43:11,355 --> 00:43:12,420 SATURDAY VOTING. 1398 00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:13,788 REALLY THAT'S FOUR ADDITIONAL 1399 00:43:13,791 --> 00:43:14,789 DAYS YOU CAN VOTE. 1400 00:43:14,792 --> 00:43:17,391 NOT 28. 1401 00:43:17,394 --> 00:43:19,026 SO REALLY IS A WIDE VARIETY, 1402 00:43:19,029 --> 00:43:19,393 DEPENDING WHERE YOU LIVE. 1403 00:43:19,396 --> 00:43:21,729 >> YEAH. 1404 00:43:21,732 --> 00:43:23,131 NOT JUST WHAT DAYS, EVEN WHAT 1405 00:43:23,134 --> 00:43:27,001 HOURS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 1406 00:43:27,004 --> 00:43:27,268 SOME DAYS IT'S FOUR HOURS IN THE 1407 00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:30,071 MORNING. 1408 00:43:30,074 --> 00:43:31,673 >> WE SHOULD PROBABLY POINT OUT 1409 00:43:31,676 --> 00:43:34,075 DONALD TRUMP RELIED ON MAIL-IN 1410 00:43:34,078 --> 00:43:36,544 VOTING MOST OF HIS LIFE, 1411 00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:39,947 CERTAINLY IN THE LAST ELECTION. 1412 00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:41,616 >> PROBABLY CORRUPT 1413 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,350 >> THE INDIANA HOUSE APPROVED A 1414 00:43:42,353 --> 00:43:42,817 CONTROVERSIAL SCHOOL CONTENT AND 1415 00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:44,819 CURRICULUM BILL THIS WEEK. 1416 00:43:44,822 --> 00:43:45,420 INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S 1417 00:43:45,423 --> 00:43:46,020 JEANIE LINDSAY REPORTS, 1418 00:43:46,023 --> 00:43:46,954 LAWMAKERS PASSED THE MEASURE 1419 00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:48,022 AFTER MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A 1420 00:43:48,025 --> 00:43:49,223 PHALF OF DISCUSSION ON THE HOUS 1421 00:43:49,226 --> 00:43:51,625 FLOOR. 1422 00:43:51,628 --> 00:43:54,061 >> LAWMAKERS MADE A FEW CHANGES 1423 00:43:54,064 --> 00:43:55,696 TO HOUSE BILL 1134 BEFORE THE 1424 00:43:55,699 --> 00:43:58,032 HOUSE APPROVED IT. BILL AUTHOR 1425 00:43:58,035 --> 00:43:59,633 REP. TONY COOK SAYS THEY AIM TO 1426 00:43:59,636 --> 00:44:02,036 ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT THE BILL 1427 00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:02,703 WOULD ADD ONTO SCHOOLS' 1428 00:44:02,706 --> 00:44:04,705 WORKLOADS OR PREVENT TEACHERS 1429 00:44:04,708 --> 00:44:05,907 FROM CONDEMNING RACISM. BUT 1430 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:08,576 CONCERNS PERSISTED FROM SOME 1431 00:44:08,579 --> 00:44:09,210 LAWMAKERS, LIKE REPRESENTATIVE 1432 00:44:09,213 --> 00:44:10,077 CAROLYN JACKSON, ABOUT HOW THE 1433 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,547 OVERALL LEGISLATION COULD IMPACT 1434 00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:12,980 SCHOOLS - ESPECIALLY AS THE 1435 00:44:12,983 --> 00:44:14,081 PANDEMIC CONTINUES. 1436 00:44:14,084 --> 00:44:18,052 >> REP. CAROLYN JACKSON 1437 00:44:18,055 --> 00:44:19,387 (D-HAMMOND): I THINK WE NEED TO 1438 00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:22,056 STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE 1439 00:44:22,059 --> 00:44:22,657 SITUATION BEFORE WE CREATE 1440 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,925 ANOTHER OBSTACLE AND FALL ON OUR 1441 00:44:24,928 --> 00:44:28,429 FACE. 1442 00:44:28,432 --> 00:44:29,030 >> MANY LAWMAKERS OPPOSED TO THE 1443 00:44:29,033 --> 00:44:30,164 BILL WORRY IT COULD REDUCE THE 1444 00:44:30,167 --> 00:44:31,499 NUMBER OF TEACHERS WILLING TO 1445 00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:36,570 WORK IN THE STATE. THE HOUSE 1446 00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:39,774 APPROVED THE LEGISLATION 60 TO 1447 00:44:39,777 --> 00:44:41,042 37. IT NOW HEADS TO THE SENATE. 1448 00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:42,443 >> NIKI KELLY, BEFORE THEY 1449 00:44:42,446 --> 00:44:44,178 PASSED THE BILL OVER TO THE 1450 00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:45,246 SENATE, THEY CHANGED THE BILL IN 1451 00:44:45,249 --> 00:44:48,215 A NINE-PAGE AMENDMENT. 1452 00:44:48,218 --> 00:44:50,084 ANY TIME YOU HAVE A NINE-PAGE 1453 00:44:50,087 --> 00:44:54,088 AMENDMENT TO A PIECE OF 1454 00:44:54,091 --> 00:44:57,691 LEGISLATION, THAT'S A GOOD BILL. 1455 00:44:57,694 --> 00:45:00,795 CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF THE 1456 00:45:00,798 --> 00:45:06,066 CHANGES TO THE BILL? 1457 00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:10,070 >> MOST WERE TWEAKING, IT LIMITS 1458 00:45:10,073 --> 00:45:11,539 THE DAMAGES, IT WAS TEACHERS 1459 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:12,706 HAVING TO POST CURRICULUM, IF 1460 00:45:12,709 --> 00:45:14,275 THEY STUMBLED UPON AN ARTICLE 1461 00:45:14,278 --> 00:45:16,410 THE NIGHT BEFORE, DO THEY HAVE 1462 00:45:16,413 --> 00:45:19,246 TO RUN IMMEDIATELY AND POST IT 1463 00:45:19,249 --> 00:45:20,314 BEFORE CLASS, OR WILL THEY BE IN 1464 00:45:20,317 --> 00:45:22,617 VIOLATION OF THE LAW? 1465 00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:24,585 THEY BACKED THAT DOWN A LITTLE 1466 00:45:24,588 --> 00:45:26,053 TO BE A LITTLE LESS, I GUESS, 1467 00:45:26,056 --> 00:45:27,721 ONEROUS, ON THAT SIDE. 1468 00:45:27,724 --> 00:45:29,123 BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND 1469 00:45:29,126 --> 00:45:30,724 PURPOSES, IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE 1470 00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:31,259 SAME BILL IT'S BEEN THE WHOLE 1471 00:45:31,262 --> 00:45:33,560 TIME. 1472 00:45:33,563 --> 00:45:35,329 THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN 1473 00:45:35,332 --> 00:45:38,566 CHANGING THE DIVISIVE CONCEPT 1474 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:39,967 LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, WHICH IS 1475 00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:40,668 THE WHOLE REASON THERE IS 1476 00:45:40,671 --> 00:45:43,103 DIVISION ON THE BILL. 1477 00:45:43,106 --> 00:45:44,438 >> JON SCHWANTES, TO THAT END, 1478 00:45:44,441 --> 00:45:45,406 THE SENATE KILLED OFF ITS 1479 00:45:45,409 --> 00:45:48,108 VERSION OF THIS MEASURE. 1480 00:45:48,111 --> 00:45:48,443 IT SAID THERE WAS NO PATH 1481 00:45:48,446 --> 00:45:49,676 FORWARD. 1482 00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:51,612 THAT'S WHAT THE VERY BRIEF 4:00 1483 00:45:51,615 --> 00:45:53,147 P.M. ON A FRIDAY STATEMENT SAID. 1484 00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:55,349 IF THERE IS NO PATH FORWARD ON 1485 00:45:55,352 --> 00:45:57,218 THAT BILL, WHY WOULD THERE BE A 1486 00:45:57,221 --> 00:45:59,253 PATH FORWARD ON THIS BILL? 1487 00:45:59,256 --> 00:46:01,755 >> THIS ASSUMES THERE IS. 1488 00:46:01,758 --> 00:46:04,592 I MEAN, I THINK THE SENATE CAN 1489 00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:06,427 MAYBE SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE HERE. 1490 00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:07,361 I THINK THERE IS CLEARLY 1491 00:46:07,364 --> 00:46:08,462 ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT. 1492 00:46:08,465 --> 00:46:09,797 VARIOUS BILLS HAVE BEEN 1493 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,765 INTRODUCED, SOME DEAL WITH 1494 00:46:11,768 --> 00:46:13,167 NARROW PORTIONS OF THIS WHOLE 1495 00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:15,769 REFORM PACKAGE WITH PARENTAL 1496 00:46:15,772 --> 00:46:16,704 INVOLVEMENT AND PARENTAL INPUT. 1497 00:46:16,707 --> 00:46:18,739 OTHERS ARE MUCH BROADER. 1498 00:46:18,742 --> 00:46:21,842 SO WHAT I THINK WE COULD SEE 1499 00:46:21,845 --> 00:46:24,412 COME OUT OF THIS IS ATTEMPTS AT 1500 00:46:24,415 --> 00:46:25,680 MORE TRANSPARENCY. 1501 00:46:25,683 --> 00:46:29,717 FORMALIZED POSTING OF COURSE 1502 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:30,084 LESSONS AND COURSE MATERIALS, 1503 00:46:30,087 --> 00:46:32,286 CURRICULA. 1504 00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:33,020 AND INVOLVEMENT, MANDATORY 1505 00:46:33,023 --> 00:46:34,254 INVOLVEMENT OF THE PUBLIC AND 1506 00:46:34,257 --> 00:46:36,590 SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS IN TERMS 1507 00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:42,596 OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A 1508 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:44,098 SAY WITHOUT IMPOSING VERY 1509 00:46:44,101 --> 00:46:46,100 SPECIFIC BUT STILL SUBJECT TO 1510 00:46:46,103 --> 00:46:48,569 DEBATE GUIDELINES ABOUT WHAT CAN 1511 00:46:48,572 --> 00:46:50,705 BE TAUGHT OR THE REVIEW PROCESS. 1512 00:46:50,708 --> 00:46:52,539 BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON 1513 00:46:52,542 --> 00:46:55,376 SOCIAL STUDIES, AND LANGUAGE 1514 00:46:55,379 --> 00:46:55,610 ARTS IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT 1515 00:46:55,613 --> 00:46:58,078 WAY. 1516 00:46:58,081 --> 00:47:04,318 IF YOU PUT THE WHOLE CURRICULA 1517 00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:05,553 TO AN ADVISORY PANEL, I CAN SEE 1518 00:47:05,556 --> 00:47:05,920 CREATIONISM VERSUS EVOLUTION 1519 00:47:05,923 --> 00:47:07,821 CREEPING IN. 1520 00:47:07,824 --> 00:47:09,423 I CAN SEE WHEN YOU HAVE A 1521 00:47:09,426 --> 00:47:10,758 PERSONAL FINANCE CLASS AND 1522 00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:12,627 STUDENTS ARE GIVEN A FAKE POT OF 1523 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:14,094 MONEY TO LEARN HOW TO INVEST IN 1524 00:47:14,097 --> 00:47:16,430 THE STOCK MARKET, THERE ARE 1525 00:47:16,433 --> 00:47:18,098 PEOPLE WHO SAY YOU ARE CREATING 1526 00:47:18,101 --> 00:47:19,099 A BUNCH OF CUTTHROAT CAPITALISTS 1527 00:47:19,102 --> 00:47:21,903 WITH NO HEART. 1528 00:47:21,906 --> 00:47:23,571 THIS WHOLE THING POTENTIALLY, 1529 00:47:23,574 --> 00:47:25,306 THAT'S A BIT OF AN EXAGGERATION 1530 00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:28,075 IN TERMS OF REALITY. 1531 00:47:28,078 --> 00:47:30,544 IT DOES SEEM THAT CRITICS ARE 1532 00:47:30,547 --> 00:47:32,413 WORRIED A LOT ABOUT GRIDLOCK 1533 00:47:32,416 --> 00:47:36,183 HERE, AND THE BURDEN THAT WOULD 1534 00:47:36,186 --> 00:47:37,518 BE CREATED BY THIS MULTI-LAYERED 1535 00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:38,719 APPROACH TO CURRICULUM APPROVAL. 1536 00:47:38,722 --> 00:47:41,055 >> MIKE O'BRIEN, IF THE SENATE 1537 00:47:41,058 --> 00:47:42,456 TOOK OUT THE DIVISIVE CONCEPTS 1538 00:47:42,459 --> 00:47:43,591 LANGUAGE AND WE WERE LEFT WITH A 1539 00:47:43,594 --> 00:47:44,759 LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM 1540 00:47:44,762 --> 00:47:48,529 TEACHERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY 1541 00:47:48,532 --> 00:47:50,030 HAVE TO POST ONLINE AND THESE 1542 00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:51,331 PARENT -- THESE CURRICULUM 1543 00:47:51,334 --> 00:47:53,667 COMMITTEES THAT PARENTS WOULD 1544 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:55,469 PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN AT THE 1545 00:47:55,472 --> 00:47:57,304 SCHOOL BOARD AND DISTRICT LEVEL. 1546 00:47:57,307 --> 00:48:00,407 IF THAT'S ALL THE BILL WAS LEFT 1547 00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:01,108 WITH, DOES THIS HAVE IS A MUCH 1548 00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:02,009 EASIER PATH FORWARD? 1549 00:48:02,012 --> 00:48:04,178 >> PROBABLY. 1550 00:48:04,181 --> 00:48:05,980 BUT I THINK THE GOAL NEEDS TO BE 1551 00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:06,447 TRANSPARENCY AND NOT CONTROL FOR 1552 00:48:06,450 --> 00:48:08,549 PARENTS. 1553 00:48:08,552 --> 00:48:09,183 AND TAKE THIS OFF THE TEACHER'S 1554 00:48:09,186 --> 00:48:11,118 PLATE ENTIRELY. 1555 00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:14,154 MOVE THIS ENTIRELY TO A SCHOOL 1556 00:48:14,157 --> 00:48:15,723 BOARD, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF 1557 00:48:15,726 --> 00:48:15,989 PARENTAL COMMITTEE ADVISORY 1558 00:48:15,992 --> 00:48:18,692 ROLE. 1559 00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:21,729 BUT WHERE ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE 1560 00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:22,062 ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS 1561 00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:23,731 ULTIMATELY. 1562 00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:24,798 LET THEM POST WHAT -- LET THEM 1563 00:48:24,801 --> 00:48:27,101 DIRECT THE CORPORATION POST WHAT 1564 00:48:27,104 --> 00:48:30,070 THEY WANT TO POST IN THE LEAST 1565 00:48:30,073 --> 00:48:32,373 ONEROUS WAY POSSIBLE. 1566 00:48:32,376 --> 00:48:34,508 PUTTING TEACHERS IN THIS 1567 00:48:34,511 --> 00:48:36,577 SITUATION, THEY AREN'T PREPPING 1568 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:43,484 MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY ARE 1569 00:48:43,487 --> 00:48:45,486 PREPPING THE NIGHT BEFORE, 11:00 1570 00:48:45,489 --> 00:48:49,023 OR 12:00 AT NIGHT, ONCE THEY GET 1571 00:48:49,026 --> 00:48:51,959 THEIR OWN KIDS TO BED. 1572 00:48:51,962 --> 00:48:52,359 THIS HAS GOT TO BE ON 1573 00:48:52,362 --> 00:48:54,561 TRANSPARENCY. 1574 00:48:54,564 --> 00:48:56,463 THE ONEROUS HAS GOT TO BE ON THE 1575 00:48:56,466 --> 00:48:58,065 PARENTS TO DO THE WORK TO GO ASK 1576 00:48:58,068 --> 00:49:00,000 THOSE QUESTIONS, A LOT OF THEM 1577 00:49:00,003 --> 00:49:02,036 ARE DOING THAT. 1578 00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,538 THEY'RE DOING IT IN A PRETTY 1579 00:49:04,541 --> 00:49:05,873 HOSTILE WAY, I WISH IT WAS MORE 1580 00:49:05,876 --> 00:49:07,608 THOUGHTFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE. 1581 00:49:07,611 --> 00:49:08,409 TO PUT THIS ON TEACHER'S PLATE 1582 00:49:08,412 --> 00:49:09,610 IS TOO MUCH. 1583 00:49:09,613 --> 00:49:11,879 >> ANN DeLANEY, TO WHAT MIKE 1584 00:49:11,882 --> 00:49:13,113 JUST TALKED ABOUT, IF THE SENATE 1585 00:49:13,116 --> 00:49:15,482 CANGES THE BILL TO BE WHAT MIKE 1586 00:49:15,485 --> 00:49:20,087 JUST INDICATED, TAKING IT OFF 1587 00:49:20,090 --> 00:49:22,757 THE TEACHERS, FOCUSING ON 1588 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,091 TRANSPARENCY, IS THAT A GOOD 1589 00:49:24,094 --> 00:49:27,161 PIECE OF LEGISLATION? 1590 00:49:27,164 --> 00:49:27,527 >> CERTAINLY BETTER PIECE OF 1591 00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:29,697 LEGISLATION. 1592 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,832 THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO 1593 00:49:31,835 --> 00:49:33,701 HAVE THOUGHT CONTROL, AN EQUAL 1594 00:49:33,704 --> 00:49:35,102 APPROACH TO ANY ISSUE NO MATTER 1595 00:49:35,105 --> 00:49:38,005 HOW HORRIFIC THAT HAS BEEN IN 1596 00:49:38,008 --> 00:49:38,272 THE PAST HISTORY OF THE WORLD IS 1597 00:49:38,275 --> 00:49:40,541 RIDICULOUS. 1598 00:49:40,544 --> 00:49:44,745 I AGREE WITH MIKE. 1599 00:49:44,748 --> 00:49:45,246 WE'VE PUT ENOUGH BURDEN ON 1600 00:49:45,249 --> 00:49:47,448 TEACHERS. 1601 00:49:47,451 --> 00:49:48,048 IT IS ALREADY A DIFFICULT ENOUGH 1602 00:49:48,051 --> 00:49:49,283 PROFESSION, MADE MUCH MORE 1603 00:49:49,286 --> 00:49:51,452 DIFFICULT BY THE PANDEMIC, NOW 1604 00:49:51,455 --> 00:49:52,553 WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER 1605 00:49:52,556 --> 00:49:56,991 ON THAT, IT'S CRAZY. 1606 00:49:56,994 --> 00:49:57,858 IF PARENTS WANT TO HAVE A 1607 00:49:57,861 --> 00:49:59,126 CURRICULUM ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN 1608 00:49:59,129 --> 00:50:00,794 THEIR DISTRICT WHERE THEY CAN 1609 00:50:00,797 --> 00:50:02,129 DISCUSS A TIME, PARENTS CAN 1610 00:50:02,132 --> 00:50:06,066 ALREADY PICK UP THE TEXTBOOK, 1611 00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:08,735 THEY CAN ALREADY TALK TO THE 1612 00:50:08,738 --> 00:50:10,003 TEACHERS, OR EMAIL THE TEACHERS 1613 00:50:10,006 --> 00:50:11,538 AND ASK ABOUT THE CURRICULUM. 1614 00:50:11,541 --> 00:50:13,074 THERE IS NO BARRIER TO THAT NOW. 1615 00:50:13,077 --> 00:50:14,608 AND IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 1616 00:50:14,611 --> 00:50:16,443 IT, THEY CAN GO TO THE PRINCIPAL 1617 00:50:16,446 --> 00:50:18,579 OR THE SUPERINTENDENT, OR THEY 1618 00:50:18,582 --> 00:50:19,947 CAN GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. 1619 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:21,682 WHY THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO GET 1620 00:50:21,685 --> 00:50:23,283 IN THE MIDDLE OF ISSUES WHERE 1621 00:50:23,286 --> 00:50:24,585 THEY CAN BE DEALT WITH ON A 1622 00:50:24,588 --> 00:50:27,087 LOCAL LEVEL IS BEYOND ME. 1623 00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:30,057 AND ANYTHING THAT PUTS MORE ON 1624 00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:30,324 THE TEACHERS' PLATE IS A BAD 1625 00:50:30,327 --> 00:50:32,459 IDEA. 1626 00:50:32,462 --> 00:50:33,694 WITH THIS BILL AND THIS CONCEPT, 1627 00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:34,962 WE'RE ALREADY THE LAUGHINGSTOCK 1628 00:50:34,965 --> 00:50:36,096 OF THE COUNTRY. 1629 00:50:36,099 --> 00:50:37,598 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT AT 1630 00:50:37,601 --> 00:50:38,966 THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO 1631 00:50:38,969 --> 00:50:39,166 RECRUIT NEW BUSINESS INTO THIS 1632 00:50:39,169 --> 00:50:42,036 STATE. 1633 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:42,169 LOTS OF LUCK WITH THAT. 1634 00:50:42,172 --> 00:50:42,770 >> 1635 00:50:42,773 --> 00:50:43,704 INDIANA LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 1636 00:50:43,707 --> 00:50:46,040 INDICATED RECENTLY THE GENERAL 1637 00:50:46,043 --> 00:50:47,374 ASSEMBLY WILL LIKELY HOLD OFF ON 1638 00:50:47,377 --> 00:50:48,575 ANY MAJOR ANTI-ABORTION 1639 00:50:48,578 --> 00:50:49,242 LEGISLATION THIS SESSION. 1640 00:50:49,245 --> 00:50:49,843 LAWMAKERS WANT TO WAIT FOR THE 1641 00:50:49,846 --> 00:50:50,744 US SUPREME COURT TO RULE ON THE 1642 00:50:50,747 --> 00:50:53,881 ISSUE LATER THIS YEAR BEFORE 1643 00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:54,548 TAKING ACTION. 1644 00:50:54,551 --> 00:50:55,916 >> THE FUTURE OF ABORTION RIGHTS 1645 00:50:55,919 --> 00:50:57,451 MAY BE DECIDED BY THE SUPREME 1646 00:50:57,454 --> 00:50:59,920 COURT THIS YEAR. AND INDIANA 1647 00:50:59,923 --> 00:51:00,554 SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM RODRIC 1648 00:51:00,557 --> 00:51:01,122 BRAY SAYS IT'S BEST TO WAIT FOR 1649 00:51:01,125 --> 00:51:02,055 THE DECISION BEFORE PASSING 1650 00:51:02,058 --> 00:51:02,523 LEGISLATION. 1651 00:51:02,526 --> 00:51:03,991 >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 1652 00:51:03,994 --> 00:51:06,059 (R-MARTINSVILLE): TO TRY AND 1653 00:51:06,062 --> 00:51:10,063 ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT MIGHT SAY 1654 00:51:10,066 --> 00:51:12,766 AND DRAFT LEGISLATION TO 1655 00:51:12,769 --> 00:51:14,602 ANTICIPATE EVERY POSSIBLE 1656 00:51:14,605 --> 00:51:15,736 SOLUTION OR OPINION THAT THEY 1657 00:51:15,739 --> 00:51:16,770 COULD COME OUT WITH JUST LOOKS 1658 00:51:16,773 --> 00:51:17,338 COMPLETELY UNDOABLE TO ME. SO, I 1659 00:51:17,341 --> 00:51:18,505 DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO TRY. 1660 00:51:18,508 --> 00:51:20,541 >> BUT ONCE THE COURT RULES, 1661 00:51:20,544 --> 00:51:21,408 BRAY SAYS HE MIGHT ASK THE 1662 00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:21,675 GOVERNOR TO CALL A SPECIAL 1663 00:51:21,678 --> 00:51:23,677 SESSION. 1664 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,578 >> SEN. RODRIC BRAY 1665 00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:26,013 (R-MARTINSVILLE): I THINK WE'LL 1666 00:51:26,016 --> 00:51:26,647 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ADVOCATING 1667 00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:27,381 THAT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY 1668 00:51:27,384 --> 00:51:28,315 LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO TO MAKE A 1669 00:51:28,318 --> 00:51:29,149 CHANGE HERE IN THE STATE, IF 1670 00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:30,584 THERE'S A POSSIBILITY. 1671 00:51:30,587 --> 00:51:31,585 >> THE COURT'S RULINGS COULD 1672 00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:34,054 MEAN EVERYTHING FROM BANNING 1673 00:51:34,057 --> 00:51:34,754 ABORTION OUTRIGHT TO RESTRICTING 1674 00:51:34,757 --> 00:51:39,660 HOW LONG INTO PREGNANCY PEOPLE 1675 00:51:39,663 --> 00:51:40,895 CAN ACCESS ABORTION CARE. 1676 00:51:40,898 --> 00:51:42,062 >> JON SCHWANTES, WILL GOP 1677 00:51:42,065 --> 00:51:44,031 CONSTITUENTS FOR WHOM ABORTION 1678 00:51:44,034 --> 00:51:45,265 IS ONE OF, IF NOT THE MOST 1679 00:51:45,268 --> 00:51:49,103 IMPORTANT ISSUE BE OKAY WITH 1680 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:52,439 THIS WAIT-AND-SEE APPROACH? 1681 00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:54,207 >> THEY'LL BE DISAPPOINTED. 1682 00:51:54,210 --> 00:51:56,109 IF THERE WERE LEGISLATION, IT 1683 00:51:56,112 --> 00:51:56,610 WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JULY 1684 00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:57,578 1. 1685 00:51:57,581 --> 00:51:59,146 THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IS 1686 00:51:59,149 --> 00:52:00,581 EXPECTED IN LATE JUNE. 1687 00:52:00,584 --> 00:52:03,784 AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IT MAKES 1688 00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:05,919 SENSE TO WAIT AND SEE. 1689 00:52:05,922 --> 00:52:07,487 >> NIKI KELLY, CHANCES VERY HIGH 1690 00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:09,223 WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION 1691 00:52:09,226 --> 00:52:10,891 LATER THIS YEAR ON ABORTION? 1692 00:52:10,894 --> 00:52:13,260 >> WELL, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ALL 1693 00:52:13,263 --> 00:52:13,627 DEPENDS ON HOW THAT RULING COMES 1694 00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:15,529 DOWN. 1695 00:52:15,532 --> 00:52:30,544 IF THEY IN ANY WAY GIVE STATES 1696 00:52:30,547 --> 00:52:30,878 MORE RIGHT TO CURTAIL ABORTION, 1697 00:52:30,881 --> 00:52:31,545 ABSOLUTELY. 1698 00:52:31,548 --> 00:52:31,879 THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 1699 00:52:31,882 --> 00:52:32,413 FOR THIS WEEK. 1700 00:52:32,416 --> 00:52:32,746 OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 1701 00:52:32,749 --> 00:52:33,213 DELANEY. 1702 00:52:33,216 --> 00:52:33,714 REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 1703 00:52:33,717 --> 00:52:34,047 JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 1704 00:52:34,050 --> 00:52:34,615 LAWMAKERS. 1705 00:52:34,618 --> 00:52:35,082 AND NIKI KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE 1706 00:52:35,085 --> 00:52:35,682 JOURNAL GAZETTE. 1707 00:52:35,685 --> 00:52:36,283 IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 1708 00:52:36,286 --> 00:52:36,883 PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 1709 00:52:36,886 --> 00:52:37,684 WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 1710 00:52:37,687 --> 00:52:38,418 YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 1711 00:52:38,421 --> 00:52:41,788 DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 1712 00:52:41,791 --> 00:52:42,356 WFYI APP. 1713 00:52:42,359 --> 00:52:44,524 I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 1714 00:52:44,527 --> 00:52:48,562 PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 1715 00:52:48,565 --> 00:52:50,097 STAY SAFE, STAY HEALTHY, PLEASE 1716 00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:50,731 GET VACCINATED IF YOU CAN. 1717 00:52:50,734 --> 00:52:53,901 JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 1718 00:52:53,904 --> 00:52:53,968 CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK. 1719 00:52:54,036 --> 00:53:01,876 ♪♪ 1720 00:53:13,789 --> 00:53:16,757 ♪♪ 1721 00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:23,898 >> THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE 1722 00:53:23,901 --> 00:53:27,334 SOLELY THOSE OF THE PANELISTS, 1723 00:53:27,337 --> 00:53:28,535 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS A WFYI 1724 00:53:28,538 --> 00:53:29,136 PRODUCTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH 1725 00:53:29,139 --> 00:53:30,604 INDIANA'S PUBLIC BROADCASTING