WEBVTT 00:02.001 --> 00:05.001 >> Jim Shella: MIKE PENCE MAKES 00:05.001 --> 00:06.002 HIS CHOICE TO 00:06.002 --> 00:07.007 LEAD THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILD 00:07.007 --> 00:08.017 SERVICES. 00:08.017 --> 00:10.018 IS IT A GOOD ONE? 00:10.018 --> 00:11.013 IS THE GOVERNOR'S ON TRACK WITH 00:11.013 --> 00:12.011 HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE DANI 00:12.011 --> 00:13.006 THE DEER CASE? 00:13.006 --> 00:14.023 THE FIRST OFFICIAL MEETING 00:14.023 --> 00:16.023 BETWEEN PENCE AND GLENDA RITZ, A 00:16.023 --> 00:18.001 MASS TRANSIT BILL ADVANCES, AND 00:18.001 --> 00:19.000 THE GAY MARRIAGE DEBATE IS ON 00:19.000 --> 00:20.022 HOLD. 00:20.022 --> 00:22.009 THAT PLUS THE INDY 500 WINNER 00:22.009 --> 00:23.021 HITS A MARITAL WALL AND MORE ON 00:23.021 --> 00:25.013 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE 01:33.022 --> 01:35.002 THIS WEEK.. GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE 01:35.002 --> 01:36.012 APPOINTED A NEW DIRECTOR OF THE 01:36.012 --> 01:38.009 DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SERVICES. 01:38.009 --> 01:39.018 THE SELECTION OF LAKE COUNTY 01:39.018 --> 01:40.024 JUVENILE JUDGE MARY BETH 01:40.024 --> 01:41.021 BONAVENTURA IS A SOURCE OF PRIDE 01:41.021 --> 01:43.008 FOR PENCE. 01:43.008 --> 01:44.021 HE SAID IT'S AN 01:44.021 --> 01:46.000 ANNOUNCEMENT OF --QUOTE-- 01:46.000 --> 01:47.011 ENORMOUS IMPORTANCE AS 01:47.011 --> 01:49.010 BONVENTURA TAKES OVER THE AGENCY 01:49.010 --> 01:50.017 THAT HAS FACED A SCANDAL 01:50.017 --> 01:51.024 SURROUNDING FORMER DIRECTOR 01:51.024 --> 01:53.010 JAMES PAYNE AND CRITICISM OVER A 01:53.010 --> 01:54.019 NUMBER OF CHILD DEATHS. 01:54.019 --> 01:55.027 JUDGE BONVENTURA HAS A HIGH 01:55.027 --> 01:57.011 PROFILE AFTER 31 YEARS ON THE 01:57.011 --> 01:59.023 BENCH THAT INCLUDED APPEARANCES 01:59.023 --> 02:01.022 IN A GROUNDBREAKING DOCUMENTARY 02:01.022 --> 02:03.002 SERIES ON JUVENILE JUSTICE IN 02:03.002 --> 02:04.011 LAKE COUNTY THAT AIRED ON A 02:09.019 --> 02:10.021 (I TRULY BELIEVE THAT 02:10.021 --> 02:12.011 MARY BETH BONAVENTURA IS 02:12.025 --> 02:15.025 UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO LEAD THE 02:15.025 --> 02:17.007 DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SERVICES IN 02:17.007 --> 02:19.022 THE STATE OF INDIANA.) 02:19.022 --> 02:20.014 (THE 02:20.014 --> 02:22.014 EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE GAINED 02:22.014 --> 02:25.014 SERVING THE PEOPLE IN LAKE 02:25.014 --> 02:28.010 COUNTY HAS JUST SET ME UP TO 02:28.010 --> 02:31.003 COME HERE AND TRY TO HELP THE 02:31.003 --> 02:33.007 PEOPLE STATEWIDE IN THE WAY, IN 02:33.007 --> 02:35.003 THE METHODS AND SKILLS THAT I'VE 02:35.003 --> 02:36.013 ATTAINED SERVING AS JUDGE IN 02:40.018 --> 02:41.027 WILL JUDGE BONAVENTURA RIGHT THE 02:41.027 --> 02:43.008 SHIP AT DSC? 02:43.008 --> 02:45.023 IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 02:45.023 --> 02:47.003 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL 02:47.003 --> 02:48.012 DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY REPUBBICAN 02:48.012 --> 02:50.000 MIKE MCDANIEL JON SCHWANTES, THE 02:50.000 --> 02:51.018 HOST OF INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND 02:51.018 --> 02:53.020 JOHN KETZENBERGER, PRESIDENT OF 02:53.020 --> 02:54.025 THE INDIANA FISCAL POLICY 02:54.025 --> 02:56.004 INSTITUTE I'M WISH-TV STATEHOUSE 02:56.004 --> 02:57.013 REPORTER JIM SHELLA ANN DELANEY, 03:01.003 --> 03:03.001 . 03:03.006 --> 03:06.006 >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD CHOICE, 03:06.006 --> 03:08.007 EVAN BAYH APPOINTED TO 03:08.018 --> 03:11.018 THE BENCH YEARS AGO, AND THE 03:11.018 --> 03:14.007 REVIEWS OF HER PERFORMANCE 03:14.007 --> 03:15.014 VERY POSITIVE, I'M HOPING THE 03:15.014 --> 03:16.029 SHE HAS THE 03:16.029 --> 03:17.025 ADMINISTRATIVE SKILLS AS WELL. 03:17.025 --> 03:18.028 THE DEPARTMENT IS A 03:20.009 --> 03:23.009 MESS, IT HAS BEEN FOR YEARS, THE 03:23.009 --> 03:25.025 WHOLE ATTITUDE ISN'T 03:25.025 --> 03:26.020 GEARED TO PROTECTING CHILDREN 03:26.020 --> 03:29.017 FIRST, THAT IS HER 03:29.017 --> 03:31.000 REPUTATION, AND IF SHE CAN GET 03:31.000 --> 03:32.001 THAT BUREAUCRACY IN 03:32.001 --> 03:33.012 LINE, I THINK IT WILL BE AN 03:33.012 --> 03:34.009 GREAT APPOINTMENT. 03:34.009 --> 03:37.003 >> WHILE YOU SAY IT WAS A MESS, 03:37.006 --> 03:40.006 JOHN RYAN WAS THE CHIEF 03:40.029 --> 03:43.029 OF STAFF UNDER JIM PAYNE AND 03:43.029 --> 03:46.020 TOOK OVER WHEN MANY 03:46.020 --> 03:47.023 DEPARTED, AND JUDGE BONVENTURA 03:48.012 --> 03:51.012 SAID SHE COULDN'T DO 03:51.012 --> 03:53.015 THIS WITHOUT RYAN. 03:53.015 --> 03:56.012 >> BECAUSE SHE'S A QUALITY GUY, 03:56.012 --> 03:58.025 THIS IS A FREIGHT 03:58.025 --> 04:00.021 CHOICE BY THE GOVERNOR. BEING 04:00.021 --> 04:02.006 WELL RECEIVED BY 04:02.006 --> 04:03.024 REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE, 04:03.024 --> 04:05.010 THE TIMES OF NORTHWEST 04:05.010 --> 04:07.017 INDIANA EDITORIAL LIDS IT IS 04:07.026 --> 04:10.026 LAKE'S COUNTY LOSS AND THE 04:10.026 --> 04:13.026 STATE'S GAIN, SO IT'S A VERY 04:13.026 --> 04:15.008 POPULAR CHOICE, ANN IS 04:15.008 --> 04:17.022 RIGHT, THIS IS A HUGE 04:17.022 --> 04:19.018 DEPARTMENT, AND SHE SEEMS TO GET 04:19.018 --> 04:21.013 IT, AT LEAST IN HER INITIAL 04:21.013 --> 04:22.024 COMMENTS BUT WHAT THIS 04:22.024 --> 04:24.028 TAKES AND HOW HARD THIS JOB IS 04:24.028 --> 04:26.023 FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THE 04:26.023 --> 04:28.016 KIND OF DECISIONS IN VERY TOUGH 04:28.016 --> 04:29.025 SITUATIONS, I THINK SHE 04:29.025 --> 04:31.010 WILL BE A GREAT ONE. 04:31.010 --> 04:33.023 >> DOESN'T HURT FOR MIKE PENCE 04:33.023 --> 04:34.027 TO DO SOME LAKE COUNTY 04:34.027 --> 04:36.007 OUTREACH. 04:36.007 --> 04:38.015 >> I'M SURE THAT DOESN'T HURT. 04:38.015 --> 04:39.026 AS MIKE SEGMENTED, 04:39.026 --> 04:41.023 THERE WERE LOTS OF VERY 04:41.023 --> 04:43.022 COMPLIMENTARY THINGS SAID BY 04:43.022 --> 04:44.022 LAKE COUNTY DEMOCRATS AND OTHERS 04:44.022 --> 04:45.026 WHO HAVE WORKED WITH 04:45.026 --> 04:48.020 HER OVER THE YEARS AND FOUND HER 04:48.020 --> 04:50.003 TO BE A QUALITY 04:50.003 --> 04:51.018 INDIVIDUAL ON THE BENCH AND HER 04:51.018 --> 04:52.021 WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, 04:52.021 --> 04:54.004 I THINK IT SCORES ON ALL OF 04:54.004 --> 04:55.027 THOSE APPOINTMENTS. I 04:55.027 --> 04:58.004 DON'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY, BUT 04:58.004 --> 04:59.020 JUDGING FROM WHAT 04:59.020 --> 05:00.017 EVERYBODY HAS SAID, MEDIUM FROM 05:00.017 --> 05:02.022 BOTH SIDES OF THE 05:02.022 --> 05:04.004 AISLE, IT'S A GOOD PEOPLE, WHO 05:04.004 --> 05:05.013 THERE HAVE BEEN STRAINED 05:05.013 --> 05:07.001 RELATIONSHIPS AT TIMES BETWEEN 05:08.008 --> 05:11.008 THE AGENCY AND JUDGES 05:11.008 --> 05:12.019 AROUND THE STATE. AND ONE WOULD 05:12.019 --> 05:13.024 PRESUME TO HAVE 05:13.024 --> 05:15.024 SOMEBODY WHO HAS HER BACKGROUND 05:15.024 --> 05:16.026 AND CREDENTIALS, SHE'S 05:16.026 --> 05:19.006 A MEMBER OF THE CLUB, IF YOU 05:19.006 --> 05:20.009 WILL, WHO BETTER, MAYBE, 05:20.009 --> 05:22.004 TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE 05:22.004 --> 05:24.005 TENSIONS AND BUILD A NEW SORT 05:24.005 --> 05:25.020 OF COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT WITH 05:25.020 --> 05:28.004 JUDGES ACROSS THE STATE. 05:28.004 --> 05:30.007 >> I MENTIONED THIS DOCUMENTARY 05:30.007 --> 05:31.019 THAT SHE APPEARED IN, 05:33.023 --> 05:36.023 WE'RE NOT USED TO CAMERAS IN 05:38.008 --> 05:41.008 INDIANA COURTROOMS, MUCH 05:41.008 --> 05:42.021 LESS JUVENILE, SO. AND SHE MADE 05:42.021 --> 05:44.020 A STRONG APERSONS ON 05:44.020 --> 05:46.010 TELEVISION, DO YOU EXPECT SHE 05:46.010 --> 05:47.021 WILL HAVE A HIGHER 05:47.021 --> 05:48.016 PROFILE? 05:48.027 --> 05:51.027 >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, I 05:51.027 --> 05:52.029 THINK IT'S GOOD FOR 05:52.029 --> 05:54.023 SUN TO BE OUT THERE ADVOCATING 05:54.023 --> 05:55.023 ON BEHALF OF THE 05:55.023 --> 05:58.003 CHILDREN WHO NEED IT IN THE 05:58.003 --> 06:01.001 STATE, AND I WOULD NOTE 06:01.001 --> 06:03.026 JUDGE PAYNE CAME FROM THE RANKS 06:03.026 --> 06:06.001 OF JUVENILE JOURNAL, 06:06.001 --> 06:07.006 HOPEFULLY SHE WILL TAKE 06:07.006 --> 06:09.005 LEADERSHIP, SHE DID A FIRM 06:09.005 --> 06:11.017 POLICY AND THEN SHE CAN GET 06:11.017 --> 06:13.011 EMPTION TO BUY INTO THIS, 06:13.011 --> 06:14.027 BECAUSE THE CRITICAL PIECE, SHE 06:14.027 --> 06:16.001 TALKED ABOUT THE PEOPLE 06:17.010 --> 06:20.010 WHO HAVE TO GO INTO HOMES, 06:20.010 --> 06:23.008 CASEWORKERS WHO HAVE TO MAKE 06:23.008 --> 06:24.002 QUICK ADJUSTMENTS, VERY 06:24.002 --> 06:25.024 STRESSFUL, DIFFICULT JOBS, 06:25.024 --> 06:27.025 THEY'RE THE KEY COMPONENT HERE, 06:29.017 --> 06:32.017 AND I HOPE SHE CAN LEAD 06:32.017 --> 06:34.001 THEM FORWARD WITH GOOD POLICY 06:34.001 --> 06:35.005 BACKED UP BY 06:35.005 --> 06:36.002 ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT AND TAKE 06:36.002 --> 06:37.018 CARE OF THE PROBLEM OF 06:37.018 --> 06:39.012 CHILDREN HURT AND EVEN KILLED IN 06:39.012 --> 06:39.029 SITUATIONS THAT CAN BE 06:39.029 --> 06:40.029 BE 06:40.029 --> 06:42.005 AVOIDED IF POSSIBLE. 06:42.005 --> 06:44.009 >> IF SHE SETS THE TONE, THAT'S 06:44.009 --> 06:45.022 WHAT IT'S GOING TO 06:45.022 --> 06:46.022 TAKE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE 06:46.022 --> 06:48.024 DIFFICULT JOBS, AND THE TONE IN 06:48.024 --> 06:50.027 RECENT YEARS, AND WHEN TALKING 06:51.006 --> 06:54.006 ABOUT HIGH PROFILE, HARD 06:54.022 --> 06:57.022 TO TALK ABOUT A DCS HEAD HIGHER 06:57.022 --> 06:59.024 PROFILE THAN JAMES 06:59.024 --> 07:01.001 PAYNE, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IF YOU 07:01.001 --> 07:03.005 SET A PROFILE SAYING 07:03.005 --> 07:05.016 THE FIRST SHE COULD AND THIRD 07:05.020 --> 07:08.020 OBJECTIVE OF THE AGENCY 07:08.020 --> 07:10.009 IS TO PROTECT CHILDREN, NOT 07:10.020 --> 07:13.020 REUNITE FAMILIES, THAT'S 07:13.020 --> 07:15.019 NOT THE ATTITUDE DCS NEEDS, THAT 07:15.019 --> 07:17.023 HAS BEEN THE ATTITUDE. 07:17.023 --> 07:19.015 ADMINISTRATION, SO IF SHE SETS A 07:19.015 --> 07:20.016 DIFFERENT TONE, I 07:20.016 --> 07:21.011 THINK WE CAN SEE DIFFERENT 07:21.011 --> 07:22.029 RESULTS. 07:22.029 --> 07:24.019 >> I THINK EVERYBODY WISHES HER 07:24.019 --> 07:26.010 WELL, BUT THE CHALLENGE 07:26.010 --> 07:27.024 FOR HER, THERE'S SO MANY 07:27.024 --> 07:29.000 ATTENTION ON THE AGENCY 07:29.000 --> 07:30.002 BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN 07:30.002 --> 07:32.028 RECENT YEARS IN SOME OF THE 07:32.028 --> 07:34.014 HIGH PROFILE LAPSES, IF YOU WANT 07:35.009 --> 07:38.009 TO SAY OR SITUATIONS 07:38.009 --> 07:40.000 WHERE CHILDREN EITHER WERE 07:40.000 --> 07:40.022 HARMED OR DIED. 07:40.022 --> 07:41.022 >> AND PROBLEMS WITH THE CALL 07:41.022 --> 07:43.001 CENTER. 07:43.024 --> 07:46.024 >> AND THE CHALLENGE FOR HER 07:46.024 --> 07:49.006 SEEMS THIS, ANYBODY IN 07:49.006 --> 07:50.020 THAT POSITION. THE SCOREBOARD 07:50.020 --> 07:51.026 NEVER LIGHTS UP IF YOU 07:51.026 --> 07:54.008 SUCCEED, BECAUSE IF YOU SUCCEED 07:55.013 --> 07:58.013 AND SAVE A CHILD FROM A 07:58.013 --> 08:00.014 BAD SITUATION, IT NEVER -- YOU 08:00.014 --> 08:01.025 JUST DON'T KNOW, IT 08:01.025 --> 08:03.022 HAPPENS IN PRIVATE, THE ONLY 08:03.022 --> 08:05.021 TIME THE SCORE BOTHERED 08:05.021 --> 08:07.004 SHOWS UP, IT'S A NEGATIVE WAY 08:07.004 --> 08:09.022 WHEN SOMETHING FALLS 08:09.022 --> 08:11.020 THROUGH THE CRACKS, SOMEBODY 08:11.020 --> 08:13.025 HARMED OR WHO SHOULD HAVE 08:13.025 --> 08:15.016 BEFORE SHIELDED BY THE STATE AND 08:15.016 --> 08:18.007 ISN'T, SHE GOES INTO 08:18.007 --> 08:19.004 IT WITH THE TOUCH CHALLENGE? 08:19.004 --> 08:21.007 HOW DO YOU PROVE YOU ARE 08:21.007 --> 08:23.006 DOING THE JOB WHICH EANS THE 08:23.006 --> 08:24.007 ABSENCE OF BED NEWS? 08:24.028 --> 08:28.000 >> WELL, YOU CAN START BY HAVING 08:28.000 --> 08:29.020 NO CHILD WHO HAS BEEN 08:29.020 --> 08:32.008 UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE DCS 08:32.008 --> 08:33.011 AND ON THE SCREEN REUNION 08:33.011 --> 08:35.024 NIGHT WITH A FAMILY THAT 08:37.007 --> 08:40.007 ULTIMATELY ENDS UP KILLING 08:40.007 --> 08:41.018 THAT CHILD IT'S JUST LIKE NO 08:41.018 --> 08:42.013 PRESS IS GOOD PRESS. 08:43.023 --> 08:46.001 >> GOVERNOR PENCE REQUESTED A 08:46.001 --> 08:46.023 BRIEFING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF 08:46.023 --> 08:47.013 NATURAL RESOURCES THIS WEEK 08:47.013 --> 08:48.008 REGARDING THE PROSECUTION OF A 08:48.008 --> 08:49.006 CONNERSVILLE COUPLE. 08:49.006 --> 08:50.007 JEFF COUNCELLOR AND 08:50.007 --> 08:51.009 HIS WIFE JENNIFER NURSED AN 08:51.009 --> 08:53.021 INJURED DEER NAMED "DANI" BACK 08:53.021 --> 08:54.018 TO HEALTH. 08:54.018 --> 08:55.013 BUT, INDIANA LAW PROHIBITS THE 08:55.013 --> 08:57.003 POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMALS. 08:57.003 --> 08:58.003 AND, THE COUPLE NOW FACES 08:58.003 --> 08:58.029 CHARGES. 08:58.029 --> 08:59.024 THEIR PLIGHT HAS SPARKED OUTRAGE 08:59.024 --> 09:01.004 AROUND THE COUNTRY BUT THE 09:01.004 --> 09:01.027 GOVERNOR SAYS DNR ACTED 09:05.002 --> 09:06.012 >> ALL ADMIRE COMPASSION FOR AN 09:06.012 --> 09:07.007 INJURED ANIMAL 09:07.007 --> 09:08.017 BUT THIS IS A STATE OF 09:08.017 --> 09:10.026 LAWS. 09:10.026 --> 09:12.005 AND, AS GOVERNOR OF INDIANA, MY 09:12.005 --> 09:14.021 FOCUS IS GOING TO BE TO ENSURE 09:15.027 --> 09:18.027 THAT OUR LAWS ARE FAIRLY AND 09:26.021 --> 09:28.023 THAT WAS THE GOVERN ON 09:28.023 --> 09:30.021 WEDNESDAY, HE HAS SINCE 09:31.019 --> 09:34.019 APPARENTLY CHANGED HIS POSITION, 09:34.019 --> 09:35.026 THERE'S A DNR RELEASE 09:35.026 --> 09:37.029 AND SAID AT THE GOVERNOR'S 09:37.029 --> 09:39.004 REQUEST, THEY'RE NOT GOING 09:39.004 --> 09:40.017 TO CARRY OUT PROSECUTION OF THIS 09:40.017 --> 09:42.005 COUPLE. 09:42.013 --> 09:45.013 >> I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNOR 09:45.013 --> 09:46.019 MISREAD IT, WHEN A DNR 09:46.019 --> 09:48.019 PERSON FOLLOWS THE LETTER OF THE 09:48.019 --> 09:51.001 LAW AND DIDN'T USE 09:51.001 --> 09:53.012 COMMON SENSE, IN MY OPINION, HE 09:53.012 --> 09:55.004 FOLD THE LAW, NO 09:55.004 --> 09:57.012 QUESTION ABOUT THAT, BUT THE 09:58.022 --> 10:01.022 GOVERNOR DID ASK THEM TO 10:01.022 --> 10:04.010 REEVALUATE, AND THE DNR ASKING 10:04.010 --> 10:06.020 TO BE DISMISSED, TO 10:06.020 --> 10:09.012 BAMBI GAIT, WILL SOON BE BEHIND 10:09.012 --> 10:10.020 US, AND I ALWAYS GET A 10:10.020 --> 10:12.028 KICK OUT OF THE VERY PEOPLE WHO 10:12.028 --> 10:14.024 COMPLAINS ABOUT THESE 10:14.024 --> 10:16.002 KINDS OF SITUATIONS, TAKING AWAY 10:16.011 --> 10:19.011 FROM THE DEBATES ON 10:19.011 --> 10:21.028 THINGS LIKE JOBS ARE THE SAME 10:21.028 --> 10:23.006 ONES THAT FANNED THIS 10:23.006 --> 10:25.005 FLAME ALL WEEK. 10:25.005 --> 10:27.006 >> MY TAKE WAS THIS WASN'T THE 10:27.006 --> 10:29.002 BIGGEST ISSUE BUT 10:29.002 --> 10:30.029 SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY 10:30.029 --> 10:32.023 UNDERSTANDS EXCEPT IT 10:32.023 --> 10:34.002 APPEARED -- IT APPEARED 10:34.002 --> 10:34.024 INITIALLY THAT THE GOVERNOR 10:34.024 --> 10:37.003 DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. 10:37.003 --> 10:39.004 >> I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT 10:39.004 --> 10:40.023 HAPPENED, AND THEN WHEN 10:40.023 --> 10:42.028 THE OUT RAGE CAME, AND I DON'T 10:42.028 --> 10:44.011 THINK IT WAS FANNED OR 10:44.011 --> 10:46.009 FLAMED BY POLITICIANS ON EAST 10:46.009 --> 10:47.009 SIDE, I THINK PEOPLE WHO 10:47.021 --> 10:50.021 READ ABOUT THIS SAID WHAT ARE 10:50.021 --> 10:52.005 THEY THINKING? IN ANY 10:52.005 --> 10:54.006 CASE, PEOPLE BREAK THE LAW ALL 10:55.009 --> 10:58.009 THE TIME, OKAY? AND 10:58.015 --> 11:01.015 THAT'S WHAT PRODUCE MATERIAL 11:01.015 --> 11:03.000 DISCRETION IS ALL ABOUT, 11:03.000 --> 11:05.008 YOU GO AFTER THOSE THAT DESERVE 11:05.008 --> 11:06.013 PROSECUTION, THIS WAS A 11:06.013 --> 11:08.020 CLASSIC CASE, AND THEY SHOULD 11:08.020 --> 11:09.008 HAVE SENSED IT FROM THE 11:10.023 --> 11:13.023 BEGINNING. 11:14.018 --> 11:17.018 >> BUT IT ENDS UP -- I THINK 11:17.018 --> 11:20.004 SHAWN EBER HEART THE 11:20.004 --> 11:21.004 COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES THE DNR 11:21.004 --> 11:23.024 HAD IT RIGHT WHEN HE 11:23.024 --> 11:25.025 ESSENTIALLY MADE THE SAME 11:25.025 --> 11:27.027 ARGUMENT ANN DID, LET'S APPLY 11:27.027 --> 11:29.003 A LITTLE COMMON SENSE HERE. 11:29.003 --> 11:31.018 APPARENTLY THE PEOPLE WHO 11:31.018 --> 11:33.012 NURSED THIS DEAR BACK TO LIFE A 11:33.023 --> 11:36.023 COUPLE OF YEARS AGO 11:37.027 --> 11:40.027 THINK THEY SAW IT ACROSS A FIELD 11:40.027 --> 11:43.009 YESTERDAY, SO RIGHT, 11:43.009 --> 11:46.007 IT'S A HAPPY ENDING, BUT I WAS 11:46.007 --> 11:46.026 SICK AND TIRED OF THAT 11:46.026 --> 11:49.022 SHORE BY THE END OF THE WEEK. 11:50.002 --> 11:53.002 >> BUT SERIOUSLY, WAS THIS ABOUT 11:53.002 --> 11:55.010 THE DEAR OR ABOUT THE 11:55.010 --> 11:57.007 GOVERNOR'S HANDLING? 11:57.007 --> 11:59.002 >> I THINK WE COLLECTIVELY MADE 11:59.002 --> 12:00.015 IT MORE COMPLICATE THAN 12:00.015 --> 12:02.005 IT NEEDED TO BE WHEN WE STARTED% 12:02.005 --> 12:04.010 TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE 12:04.014 --> 12:07.014 OF GOVERNMENT IS IS MIKE PENCE 12:07.014 --> 12:09.000 AS A CHAMPION OF SMALL 12:09.000 --> 12:10.011 GOVERNMENT AND NOT LOOK OVER 12:10.011 --> 12:12.000 YOUR SHOULDER ALL THE 12:12.000 --> 12:15.000 TIME -- THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS 12:15.000 --> 12:17.027 ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT A 12:17.027 --> 12:19.011 CUTE LILLY DEAR NAMED DANI, 12:19.011 --> 12:21.004 THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO 12:21.004 --> 12:22.025 KNOW, YOU SEE THE PICTURE, DONE. 12:22.025 --> 12:25.026 AND THE REASON -- 12:25.026 --> 12:28.009 LET'S SAY THIS IS, EVERGLADES, 12:28.009 --> 12:30.018 FLORIDA DEALING WITH ITS 12:31.011 --> 12:34.011 INVASIVE PIE NONES, IF THIS 12:35.001 --> 12:38.001 COUPLE HAD SOMEHOW RESCUED 12:38.001 --> 12:40.018 AN INJURIED PIE NONE, I DON'T 12:40.018 --> 12:42.007 THINK THERE WOULD BE THIS 12:42.007 --> 12:43.001 GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT. 12:44.010 --> 12:45.019 TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 12:45.019 --> 12:46.005 EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 12:46.005 --> 12:46.028 UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 12:46.028 --> 12:47.021 QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR 12:47.021 --> 12:48.010 ICEMILLER E-MAIL AND TEXT 13:18.006 --> 13:19.015 GOVERNOR PENCE AND STATE SCHOOL 13:19.015 --> 13:20.020 SUPERINTENDENT GLENDA RITZ MET 13:20.020 --> 13:22.003 THIS WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME 13:22.003 --> 13:23.012 SINCE TAKING OFFICE. 13:23.012 --> 13:25.002 IT'S A MEETING 13:25.002 --> 13:26.000 THAT TOOK PLACE IN RITZ'S 13:26.000 --> 13:26.027 STATEHOUSE OFFICE AND AT HER 13:26.027 --> 13:28.010 INVITATION. 13:28.010 --> 13:30.005 THE TWO FOUND COMMON GROUND 13:30.005 --> 13:31.012 REGARDING VOCATIONAL EDUCATION 13:31.012 --> 13:32.025 AND RITZ SAID SHE PASSED UP THE 13:32.025 --> 13:34.002 OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP THE 13:34.002 --> 13:35.010 PENCE BUDGET WHICH INCREASES 13:35.010 --> 13:36.023 SCHOOL SPENDING BY JUST 13:36.023 --> 13:38.019 1-PERCENT.. (SOT) ((GLENDA 13:38.019 --> 13:39.018 RITZ/(D) STATE SCHOOL 13:39.018 --> 13:40.019 SUPERINTENDENT: NO, WE DIDN'T 13:40.019 --> 13:41.012 TALK ABOUT BUDGET AT ALL. 13:41.012 --> 13:42.014 WE SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT 13:42.014 --> 13:43.012 STUDENTS, PHILOSOPHICAL 13:56.014 --> 13:57.007 KETZENBERGER, DOES IT SURPRISE 13:57.007 --> 13:58.001 YOU THAT THE GOVERNOR WENT TO 14:02.018 --> 14:05.018 >> I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD 14:05.018 --> 14:07.000 POLITICS. IT LOOKS GOOD WHEN 14:07.000 --> 14:08.022 HE'S WALKING ACROSS THE 14:08.022 --> 14:09.011 STATEHOUSE AND OVER TO HER 14:09.011 --> 14:10.016 OFFICE. 14:10.016 --> 14:13.014 >> ACTUALLY, HE CAME IN FROM THE 14:13.014 --> 14:15.008 PARKING LOT AND WENT 14:15.008 --> 14:18.000 DIRECTLY INTO HER OFFICE. 14:18.000 --> 14:19.001 >> FROM WHERE HE PARKS -- THANK 14:19.001 --> 14:21.001 YOU FOR THE OUTLINE OF 14:21.001 --> 14:22.018 THE STATEHOUSE, JIM. TO ANSWER 14:22.018 --> 14:24.017 YOUR QUESTION, IT'S A 14:24.017 --> 14:27.009 SMART POLITICAL THING TO DO, AND 14:27.009 --> 14:28.017 IT DOES MAKE SENSE 14:28.017 --> 14:30.011 POLITICALLY FOR HIM TO GO TO HER 14:30.011 --> 14:32.021 OFFICE, AND IT WAS A 14:32.021 --> 14:33.023 GOOD IDEA. I'M GLAD THEY DID 14:33.023 --> 14:35.017 IT. 14:35.017 --> 14:37.020 >> THESE TWO ARE GOING TO BE FUN 14:37.020 --> 14:40.001 TO WATCH. 14:40.001 --> 14:42.028 >> SURE, AND YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE 14:42.028 --> 14:44.023 THE FACT: JUST LOOK AT 14:44.023 --> 14:47.011 THEIR POSITIONS, THEY COULD NOT 14:47.011 --> 14:47.027 BE -- 14:47.027 --> 14:50.024 >> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF 14:50.024 --> 14:51.009 PEOPLE WHO EXPECT 14:51.009 --> 14:53.004 TENSION. 14:53.014 --> 14:56.014 >> TIP LATE WHEN IT GETS TO 14:56.014 --> 14:58.016 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND 14:58.016 --> 15:00.004 VOCATIONAL EDUCATION, AFTER 15:02.012 --> 15:05.012 THAT, IT STOPS, THE 15:05.012 --> 15:07.011 QUESTION IN MY MIND, HOW LONG 15:07.011 --> 15:09.025 CAN THEY BE THIS VERY 15:09.025 --> 15:11.007 MUCH SMILING, COLLEGIATE, MAYBE 15:11.007 --> 15:13.005 THE HONEYMOON CAN LAST 15:13.005 --> 15:15.017 A LONG TIME, BUT AT SOME POINT 15:15.017 --> 15:18.003 THE POLICY WILL HAVE TO 15:19.016 --> 15:22.016 RAIN ON THE NICENESS PARADE. 15:25.012 --> 15:28.012 SUEELLEN REED GOT ALONG WITH 15:28.012 --> 15:29.028 THE, 15:29.028 --> 15:32.012 THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T LIKE IT. 15:32.012 --> 15:34.017 >> I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASANTLY 15:34.017 --> 15:36.029 SURPRISED. HOW WELL 15:37.006 --> 15:40.006 THESE TWO GET ALONG, THEY'VE MET 15:40.006 --> 15:42.027 THREE TIMES SINCE 15:44.015 --> 15:47.015 SHE'S BEEN ELECTED, AND THE VOC, 15:47.017 --> 15:50.017 ED IS ONE AREA THEY DO 15:50.017 --> 15:52.001 AGREE ON, AND PEOPLE FORGET, 15:52.001 --> 15:54.002 MIKE'S WIFE BEING A 15:54.002 --> 15:56.007 TEACHER, THERE'S GOING TO BE A 15:56.007 --> 15:57.021 LOT MORE COOPERATION 15:57.021 --> 15:59.013 THAN PEOPLE THINK BETWEEN GLENDA 15:59.013 --> 16:00.019 RITZ AND MIKE PENCE 16:00.021 --> 16:03.021 LONG HAUL, THEY WANT TO MEET 16:03.021 --> 16:05.017 REGULARLY, THIS IS NOT 16:05.017 --> 16:08.009 NEWS THAT HE WENT TO HER OFFICE, 16:08.009 --> 16:11.002 MIKE GETS IT, HE GOT 16:11.002 --> 16:13.014 ALL KINDS OF STYLE POINTS A WEEK 16:13.014 --> 16:15.006 AGO FOR WALKING IN THE 16:15.006 --> 16:17.002 HOUSE AND SENATE AND SAYING 16:17.002 --> 16:19.006 HELLO, AND HAD DEMOCRATS 16:19.006 --> 16:20.022 AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE SAYING WE 16:20.022 --> 16:22.009 NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN 16:22.009 --> 16:24.004 BEFORE, HE GETS IT, YOU'LL SEE 16:24.004 --> 16:25.006 HIM AROUND THE BUILDING, 16:25.006 --> 16:27.013 HE WANTS TO WORK WITH PEOPLE. 16:27.019 --> 16:30.019 >> THE REAL TEST COMES WITH 16:30.019 --> 16:31.029 ISSUES SUCH AS VOUCHER 16:31.029 --> 16:33.025 EXPANSION COMES UP. 16:33.025 --> 16:36.013 >> THERE'S ALWAYS GOING OBJECT 16:36.013 --> 16:38.019 DIFFERENCES JON. 16:38.019 --> 16:40.029 >> SO THEY'LL GET ALONG, WILL 16:40.029 --> 16:41.016 THEY WORK TOGETHER? 16:41.016 --> 16:44.009 >> I THINK THEY WILL WORK 16:44.009 --> 16:46.027 TOGETHER, SHE'S COMMITTED TO 16:46.027 --> 16:47.029 BETTERING EDUCATION, HE SAYS HE 16:47.029 --> 16:50.025 IS AS WELL, SHE'S NOT 16:50.025 --> 16:52.024 POLITICAL. THE REASON SHE RAN 16:52.024 --> 16:53.017 WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS 16:53.017 --> 16:54.026 INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE OF 16:54.026 --> 16:56.000 EDUCATION IN INDIANA, AND 16:56.000 --> 16:58.004 IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S IN THE 16:58.004 --> 16:59.020 GOVERNOR'S INTEREST TO HAVE 16:59.020 --> 17:01.021 THE EDUCATION IN INDIANA BE 17:01.021 --> 17:02.012 BRIGHTER, THEY OUGHT TO GET 17:02.012 --> 17:03.004 ALONG. 17:04.003 --> 17:06.009 THE BILL THAT COULD LEAD TO A 17:06.009 --> 17:07.000 NEW MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM IN 17:07.000 --> 17:07.022 CENTRAL INDIANA ADVANCED IN THE 17:07.022 --> 17:08.015 GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS WEEK. 17:08.015 --> 17:09.007 (VO) A COMMITTEE IN THE 17:09.007 --> 17:10.007 INDIANA HOUSE VOTED 11-TO-1 FOR 17:10.007 --> 17:11.003 THE MEASURE THAT CALLS FOR A 17:11.003 --> 17:12.018 REFERENDUM ON A LOCAL INCOME TAX 17:12.018 --> 17:13.013 HIKE IN HAMILTON ANN MARION 17:13.013 --> 17:14.018 COUNTIES. 17:14.018 --> 17:16.003 THE MONEY WOULD BE USED TO BUILD 17:16.003 --> 17:17.001 A BETTER BUS SYSTEM. 17:17.001 --> 17:18.005 THE PLAN HAS THE SUPPORT OF 17:18.005 --> 17:19.006 MAYOR GREG BALLARD BUT FAILED TO 17:19.006 --> 17:21.003 WIN APPROVAL IN TWO PREVIOUS 17:21.004 --> 17:24.004 SESSIONS OF THE LEGISLATURE.. 17:24.004 --> 17:24.028 (SOT) ((RON GIFFORD/INDY 17:24.028 --> 17:26.001 CONNECT NOW: I THINK A LOT OF 17:26.001 --> 17:27.008 LEGISLATORS UNDERSTAND NOW THAT 17:27.008 --> 17:28.017 LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FACE A LOT OF 17:28.017 --> 17:30.011 DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AND THAT 17:30.011 --> 17:32.005 LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE DIFFERENT 17:32.005 --> 17:33.026 NEEDS AND THEY NEED DIFFERENT 17:33.026 --> 17:35.001 WAYS TO DEAL WITH THOSE NEEDS 17:35.001 --> 17:36.010 AND THE TRADITIONAL WAYS OF 17:36.010 --> 17:37.023 FUNDING, PROPERTY TAX, INCOME 17:37.023 --> 17:38.025 TAX AND THE LIKE, MAY BE NOT BE 17:38.025 --> 17:39.021 SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THOSE 17:42.011 --> 17:45.011 NEEDS IN THE FUTURE. 17:45.011 --> 17:46.001 JON SCHWANTES, 17:46.001 --> 17:47.000 HAVE ATTITUDES CHANGED REGARDING 17:50.028 --> 17:53.028 >> I THINK IT APPEARS THERE IS 17:53.028 --> 17:55.015 MOVEMENT IN SOME 17:55.015 --> 17:56.025 SECTORS, OVER INDIVIDUALS, FOR 17:56.025 --> 17:57.014 INSTANCE THE SENATE, 17:57.025 --> 18:00.025 THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE OF A 18:02.018 --> 18:05.018 THEME OF SKEPTICISM THAN IN 18:05.018 --> 18:07.010 THE HOUSE, SO THE SMOOTHNESS 18:07.010 --> 18:09.016 GOING FOR THIS BILL MAY BE 18:09.029 --> 18:12.029 EARLY ON AND THEN THE QUESTION 18:12.029 --> 18:14.003 MARKS WILL ARISE, BUT 18:14.003 --> 18:16.018 HOW THIS WAS POSITIONED THIS 18:16.018 --> 18:18.021 WEEK, THE STATEMENTS THAT 18:18.021 --> 18:19.028 CAME OUT AFTER THE VOTE, 18:19.028 --> 18:21.021 EVERYBODY WAS SAYING THIS IS 18:21.021 --> 18:23.014 ALL ABOUT GIVING LOCALS THE 18:23.016 --> 18:26.018 OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR 18:26.018 --> 18:29.003 OWN DECISION, ALMOST AS IF YOU 18:29.022 --> 18:32.022 ARE WRITING THE NOTE TO 18:32.022 --> 18:34.013 GROVER NORQUIST, WE'RE NOT 18:34.013 --> 18:36.009 WRITING FOR A TAX INCREASE, 18:36.009 --> 18:37.025 THE POLL THAT WISH-TV DID WITH 18:37.025 --> 18:39.008 BALL STATE BACK BEFORE 18:39.008 --> 18:41.019 THE SESSION SHOWED THAT THERE 18:41.019 --> 18:44.019 MAY NOT BE AS MUCH OF AN 18:44.019 --> 18:46.003 OPPOSITION TO TAX INCREASES AS 18:46.003 --> 18:48.009 CONVENTIONAL WISDOM COME 18:48.009 --> 18:50.004 WOULD DICTATION, AS LONG AS 18:50.004 --> 18:52.024 THERE ARE CAUSES, AND IF 18:52.024 --> 18:54.015 THIS CASE THERE ARE SPECIFIC 18:54.015 --> 18:56.012 BENEFICIARIES. 18:56.012 --> 18:57.029 >> MIKE PENCE HAS SIGNED THAT 18:57.029 --> 19:00.015 AND HASN'T TAKEN A 19:00.015 --> 19:02.018 POSITION ON THIS BILL, DOES THIS 19:02.018 --> 19:03.018 NEED MIKE PENCE'S 19:03.018 --> 19:05.003 SUPPORT? 19:05.019 --> 19:08.019 >> IF IT'S GOING TO GET ENACTED, 19:08.019 --> 19:10.013 IT DOES, I THINK THIS 19:10.013 --> 19:11.021 WHOLE GROVER NORQUIST THING IS 19:11.021 --> 19:13.026 INTERESTING. THIS IS, 19:13.026 --> 19:15.011 SERIOUSLY ABOUT LOCAL DETERMINE 19:15.011 --> 19:16.022 NATION, AND IT'S A 19:16.022 --> 19:17.017 LONG-STANDING ISSUE BETWEEN THE 19:17.017 --> 19:19.008 LEGISLATURE AND LOCAL 19:19.008 --> 19:20.028 GOVERNMENT. IS IT A TAX 19:20.028 --> 19:22.023 INCREASE IF THE LEGISLATURE 19:22.023 --> 19:24.019 ALLOWS A LOCAL COMMUNITY TO 19:25.009 --> 19:28.009 DETERMINE WHAT IT NEEDS AND 19:30.003 --> 19:33.003 HOW TO PAY TO THAT, AND I THINK 19:33.003 --> 19:34.026 GROVER NORQUIST OUGHT 19:34.026 --> 19:36.020 TO GET HIS HEAD OUT OF LOCAL 19:36.020 --> 19:37.012 BUSINESS -- 19:37.012 --> 19:39.016 >> THAT WAS CLOSE. 19:42.023 --> 19:45.023 >> IT WAS, BUT HE NEEDS TO BUTT 19:45.023 --> 19:47.020 OUT, AND ALLOW PEOPLE, 19:47.020 --> 19:48.024 STATES TO GOVERNOR THEMSELVES 19:48.024 --> 19:51.019 AND LET PEOPLE MAKE 19:51.019 --> 19:52.008 DECISIONS FOR THEIR OWN 19:52.008 --> 19:53.009 CONSTITUENCY. 19:53.016 --> 19:56.016 >> THIS NOW HAS TO GO TO THE 19:56.016 --> 19:57.002 HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS 19:57.002 --> 19:58.025 COMMITTEE. 19:59.024 --> 20:02.024 >> THIS IS GOOD PROGRESS. 20:02.024 --> 20:04.006 REPRESENTATIVE GOT IT OUT 20:04.006 --> 20:05.025 WITH A SOLID MA GURLET, IF YOU 20:05.025 --> 20:07.013 ARE DEVELOPING A 20:07.013 --> 20:10.003 WAREHOUSE BUSINESS WHICH WE ARE 20:10.003 --> 20:11.023 IN CENTRAL INDIANA AND 20:11.023 --> 20:13.020 NOT PAYING THOSE JOBS ALL THAT 20:13.020 --> 20:15.004 MUCH, WE NEED A 20:15.004 --> 20:16.014 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO GET 20:16.014 --> 20:18.028 THEY SEE PEOPLE TO WORK, 20:18.028 --> 20:21.000 IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU WANT JOBS, 20:21.000 --> 20:23.004 IF YOU WANT TO BE A 20:23.004 --> 20:24.008 HIGH CLASS CITY, YOU HAVE TO 20:24.008 --> 20:25.017 HAVE A PUBLIC 20:25.017 --> 20:26.007 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT 20:26.007 --> 20:27.028 WORKS. 20:27.028 --> 20:28.023 >> THIRD TIME A CHARM? 20:29.021 --> 20:32.021 >> THEY HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, 20:32.021 --> 20:34.009 NOW GOES TO WAYS AND 20:34.009 --> 20:35.021 MEANS COMMITTEE, WHERE THE 20:35.021 --> 20:37.026 CHAIRMAN TOLD ME HE PLANS TO 20:37.026 --> 20:39.022 MOVE ON IT QUICKLY, BUT IT WILL 20:39.022 --> 20:40.018 BE A BONDING AUTHORITY, 20:40.018 --> 20:42.026 NOT A MAJOR PART OF THE 20:43.007 --> 20:46.007 DISCUSSION THE FIRST TIME 20:47.002 --> 20:50.002 AROUND, A WHOLE ANOTHER ASPECT, 20:50.002 --> 20:51.022 BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY 20:51.022 --> 20:53.018 MOVEMENT ABOUT LETTING THIS GO 20:53.018 --> 20:54.027 FORWARD AND LETTING 20:54.027 --> 20:56.022 LOCALS DECIDE, MADE A LOT OF 20:56.022 --> 20:57.012 PROGRESS IN A SHORT PERIOD 20:57.012 --> 20:59.001 OF TIME. 20:59.001 --> 21:01.007 >> THERE MAY BE SOME EXPANSION 21:01.007 --> 21:01.024 OF THE BUS SYSTEM AND 21:01.024 --> 21:02.016 RAIL. 21:02.016 --> 21:03.010 >> WE NEED BOTH. 21:04.015 --> 21:06.023 THERE MAY BE NO GAY MARRIAGE 21:06.023 --> 21:07.029 DEBATE IN THE INDIANA GENERAL 21:07.029 --> 21:08.027 ASSEMBLY THIS YEAR. 21:08.027 --> 21:09.028 LEADERS MAY POSTPONE IT TILL 21:09.028 --> 21:10.028 NEXT YEAR. 21:10.028 --> 21:11.024 (TAKE VO) SENATE GOP LEADER 21:11.024 --> 21:12.018 DAVID LONG SAYS CONSIDERATION OF 21:12.018 --> 21:13.019 A PERMANENT BAN ON GAY MARRIAGE 21:13.019 --> 21:14.029 HAS BEEN DELAYED AND A JOINT 21:14.029 --> 21:16.002 ANNOUNCEMENT BY HIM AND SPEAKER 21:16.002 --> 21:16.028 BRIAN BOSMA IS SCHEDULED FOR 21:16.028 --> 21:18.027 LATE NEXT WEEK. 21:18.027 --> 21:20.004 ONE FACTOR IN THE DECISION IS A 21:20.004 --> 21:21.026 CASE NOW PENDING IN THE SUPREME 21:21.026 --> 21:23.028 COURT.. (WIPE TO SOT) ((I 21:24.003 --> 21:27.005 THINK IT'S INADVISABLE TO MOVE 21:27.005 --> 21:29.017 FORWARD WITH THE UNITED STATES 21:29.017 --> 21:30.017 SUPREME COURT HAVING THE 21:30.017 --> 21:31.028 QUESTION BEFORE IT BUT I'M NOT 21:31.028 --> 21:33.000 MAKING THAT DECISION BY MYSELF 21:33.000 --> 21:34.007 AND TALKING TO FOLKS ON BOTH 21:34.007 --> 21:35.014 SIDES OF THE ISSUE AND RECEIVING 21:35.014 --> 21:37.013 THEIR OPINIONS AS WELL. 21:37.013 --> 21:38.017 )) ((YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER 21:38.017 --> 21:39.028 CRITICAL ISSUES TO ADDRESS. 21:39.028 --> 21:41.010 WE WANTED TO PUT OUR FOCUS ON 21:41.010 --> 21:43.006 THAT. 21:43.006 --> 21:44.007 THE TIME IS COMING TO COME TO A 21:44.007 --> 21:46.014 DECISION ON THAT. 21:46.014 --> 21:47.012 )) ( ON CAM ) MIKE MCDANIEL, 21:47.012 --> 21:48.011 IS THAT A DEAD ISSUE FOR THIS 21:53.008 --> 21:56.008 >> I PROBABLY WOULD SAY IT IS. 21:56.008 --> 21:57.016 DAVID LONG HAS 21:57.016 --> 21:59.009 PRESIDENT PRO TEM IN THE SENATE 21:59.009 --> 22:00.018 AND SAID WE'VE GOT 22:00.018 --> 22:01.023 OTHER THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT, 22:01.023 --> 22:03.012 BRIAN BOSMA QUOTED 22:03.012 --> 22:04.026 CONTINUOUSLY AS SAYING IT'S NOT 22:04.026 --> 22:05.026 OUR PRIORITY. THE TWO 22:05.026 --> 22:08.011 OF THEM HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR 22:08.011 --> 22:09.021 CAUCUSES PAUSE NOW UP 22:09.021 --> 22:10.023 AGAINST THE TIME FRAME OF 22:10.023 --> 22:13.000 WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO ACT 22:13.000 --> 22:15.002 ON IT OR NOT. I THINK AFTER 22:15.002 --> 22:17.001 THEY COME OUT OF THE 22:17.001 --> 22:18.010 CAUCUS, THE DECISION WILL MAKE 22:18.010 --> 22:19.021 TO APPROXIMATES THIS 22:19.021 --> 22:21.016 YEAR, SIT BACK AND SEE WHAT THE 22:21.016 --> 22:23.006 SUPREME COURT DOES. 22:23.006 --> 22:24.021 >> IS IT REALISTIC TO THINK THAT 22:24.021 --> 22:26.019 THE SUPREME COURT WILL 22:26.019 --> 22:27.021 MAKE THIS A MOOT POINT? 22:27.023 --> 22:30.023 >> NO, IT PROBABLY IS NOT. BUT 22:30.023 --> 22:32.008 HAVING SAID THAT, 22:32.008 --> 22:34.013 ATTITUDES ARE CHANGING AT A VERY 22:34.013 --> 22:37.008 RAPID PACE, AND WHEN 22:37.008 --> 22:38.029 YOU HAVE ALL THE BECAME BUSINESS 22:38.029 --> 22:40.020 COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL 22:40.020 --> 22:43.000 INDIANA ALL PRESSING NOT TO PASS 22:43.020 --> 22:46.020 THIS, IT SEEMS TO ME, 22:46.020 --> 22:48.026 LETTING SOMETIME GO BY AND 22:48.026 --> 22:50.020 SEEING WHETHER THE ATTITUDES 22:50.020 --> 22:53.013 ARE THE SAME NEXT YEAR, AND THEY 22:54.005 --> 22:57.005 SHOULD BE APPLAUDED 22:57.005 --> 22:58.023 FOR TAKING THAT CONTROVERSIAL 22:58.023 --> 22:59.016 ISSUE OFF THE TABLE. 22:59.016 --> 23:01.024 >> I THINK AS ANN SAID, THE 23:01.024 --> 23:03.006 POLLING MOVING IN THAT 23:03.008 --> 23:06.008 DIRECTION, SO IF IT DOES GET ON 23:06.008 --> 23:08.005 THE BALLOT IN 2014, I 23:08.005 --> 23:09.010 DON'T THINK A FOREGONE 23:09.010 --> 23:11.006 CONCLUSION EITHER WAY, IT WILL 23:11.006 --> 23:12.006 BE AN INTERESTING CAMPAIGN, AND 23:12.006 --> 23:13.001 WE'LL SEE WHAT THE WILL 23:13.001 --> 23:13.025 OF THE PEOPLE IS. 23:17.008 --> 23:20.008 . IF IT PASSES 2013 OR 14, IT 23:20.008 --> 23:22.017 BECOMES A REFERENDUM IN 23:22.017 --> 23:23.014 NOVEMBER 2014. SHOULD 23:23.014 --> 23:25.002 REPUBLICANS BE CONCERNED THAT 23:25.002 --> 23:26.014 HAVING AT THAT ON THE BALLOT 23:26.014 --> 23:28.011 COULD HURT THEIR 23:28.011 --> 23:29.017 CANDIDATES AT THIS POINT? 23:29.017 --> 23:31.025 >> I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ISSUE 23:31.025 --> 23:33.014 PERHAPS THAT'S EVOLVED AS 23:33.014 --> 23:35.015 QUICKLY AS THIS ONE, IF YOU HAVE 23:35.015 --> 23:37.018 ASKED ME THAT QUESTION 23:37.018 --> 23:39.013 FIVE YEARS AGO, I WOULD HAVE 23:39.013 --> 23:40.023 BEEN DEFINITIVE IT 23:41.014 --> 23:44.014 WOULDN'T HURT THEM AT ALL, PRIOR 23:44.014 --> 23:46.025 TO THE 2012 REFERENDA 23:46.025 --> 23:48.027 AROUND THE COUNTRY, ALL OF WHICH 23:48.027 --> 23:49.028 DECIDED IN FAVOR OF 23:49.028 --> 23:51.027 GAY MARRIAGE, BEFORE THAT, THERE 23:51.027 --> 23:53.018 WAS A HISTORY OF IT 23:53.018 --> 23:55.021 BEING USED AS A DRIVER TO GET 23:55.021 --> 23:58.008 PEOPLE TO THE POLLS. FOR 23:58.008 --> 23:59.025 REPUBLICANS, THANKS, BUT NOW, 23:59.025 --> 24:02.024 BECAUSE OF THESE EVOLVING 24:02.024 --> 24:04.004 OPINIONS,, AND I SHOULD SAY, 24:04.004 --> 24:06.000 THIS IS A FASCINATING 24:06.000 --> 24:07.028 ISSUE, AND ONE YOU WILL PROBABLY 24:07.028 --> 24:08.029 WANT TO TUNE INTO 24:08.029 --> 24:11.019 "INDIANA LAWMAKERS" THIS WEEK ON 24:12.002 --> 24:15.002 MANY OF THESE SAME 24:15.028 --> 24:18.028 TELL VAGUE STATIONS WHERE WE 24:18.028 --> 24:20.029 DEVOTE THE WHOLE HALF HOUR 24:20.029 --> 24:21.016 TO GAY MARRIAGE. 24:21.016 --> 24:22.009 >> 24:27.023 --> 24:28.015 THREE-TIME INDY 500 CHAMP DARIO 24:28.015 --> 24:29.006 FRANCHITTI AND ACTRESS ASHLEY 24:29.006 --> 24:31.003 JUDD ARE CALLING IT QUITS. 24:31.003 --> 24:31.026 (VO) THE HIGH-PROFILE PAIR 24:31.026 --> 24:32.019 ARE DIVORCING AFTER MORE THAN 10 24:32.019 --> 24:34.020 YEARS OF MARRIAGE. 24:34.020 --> 24:36.009 IN A STATEMENT.. THEY SAID THE 24:36.009 --> 24:37.015 DECISION WAS MUTUAL AND THEY 24:37.015 --> 24:39.010 WOULD ALWAYS BE FAMILY. 24:39.010 --> 24:40.025 JUDD TWEETED "FAMILY FOREVER." 24:40.025 --> 24:42.000 SHE IS RUMORED TO BE CONSIDERING 24:42.000 --> 24:42.025 A RUN FOR A SENATE SEAT IN 24:42.025 --> 24:44.005 KENTUCKY. 24:44.005 --> 24:45.012 (VO OUT) ANN DELANEY, WILL 24:45.012 --> 24:46.008 SHE HAVE BETTER LUCK IN POLITICS 24:46.008 --> 24:47.009 IF SHE'S NOT MARRIED TO SOMEONE 24:47.026 --> 24:50.026 FROM SCOTLAND?, 24:50.026 --> 24:53.010 >> I DIDN'T REALLY THINK IT WAS 24:53.010 --> 24:55.016 A DISABILITY TO BE 24:55.016 --> 24:57.011 MARRIED TO SOMEONE FROM SCOTT 24:59.001 --> 25:02.001 LAP, IS THAT NOW A 25:02.023 --> 25:05.023 TERRORIST HEY CONVENTION OR HIS 25:05.023 --> 25:06.009 ACCENT THAT BOTHERS 25:06.009 --> 25:07.001 YOU. 25:07.001 --> 25:09.022 >> WILL HE BE A BETTER DRIVER IF 25:09.022 --> 25:11.022 HE DOESN'T HAVE A SPOT 25:11.023 --> 25:14.023 IN HIS PIT TAKEN UP BY SOMEONE 25:14.023 --> 25:16.019 READING A BOOK. 25:16.019 --> 25:19.006 >> THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS 25:19.006 --> 25:20.025 ME ABOUT ASHLEY JUDD IS 25:21.001 --> 25:24.001 SHE'S A HUGE UNIVERSE OF 25:24.001 --> 25:24.019 KENTUCKY BASKETBALL FAN. 25:24.019 --> 25:25.013 >> 25:28.017 --> 25:29.008 THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 25:29.008 --> 25:29.028 FOR THIS WEEK. 25:29.028 --> 25:30.025 OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 25:30.025 --> 25:31.022 DELANEY REPUBLICAN MIKE 25:31.022 --> 25:32.020 MCDANIEL JON SCHWANTES OF 25:32.020 --> 25:33.025 INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND JOHN 25:33.025 --> 25:34.022 KETZENBERGER OF THE INDIANA 25:34.022 --> 25:35.016 FISCAL POLICY INSTITUTE IF 25:35.016 --> 25:36.010 YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 25:36.010 --> 25:37.011 PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 25:37.011 --> 25:38.010 WFYI.ORG/PODCAST OR, STARTING 25:38.010 --> 25:39.012 MONDAY, YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET 25:39.012 --> 25:40.010 IT ON DEMAND FROM XFINITY OR 25:40.010 --> 25:41.023 BRIGHTHOUSE NETWORKS. 25:41.023 --> 25:45.023 I'M JIM SHELLA OF WISH-TV.