>> Jim Shella: MIKE PENCE MAKES

HIS CHOICE TO

LEAD THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILD

SERVICES.

IS IT A GOOD ONE?

IS THE GOVERNOR'S ON TRACK WITH

HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE DANI

THE DEER CASE?

THE FIRST OFFICIAL MEETING

BETWEEN PENCE AND GLENDA RITZ, A

MASS TRANSIT BILL ADVANCES, AND

THE GAY MARRIAGE DEBATE IS ON

HOLD.

THAT PLUS THE INDY 500 WINNER

HITS A MARITAL WALL AND MORE ON

INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE

THIS WEEK.. GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE

APPOINTED A NEW DIRECTOR OF THE

DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SERVICES.

THE SELECTION OF LAKE COUNTY

JUVENILE JUDGE MARY BETH

BONAVENTURA IS A SOURCE OF PRIDE

FOR PENCE.

HE SAID IT'S AN

ANNOUNCEMENT OF --QUOTE--

ENORMOUS IMPORTANCE AS

BONVENTURA TAKES OVER THE AGENCY

THAT HAS FACED A SCANDAL

SURROUNDING FORMER DIRECTOR

JAMES PAYNE AND CRITICISM OVER A

NUMBER OF CHILD DEATHS.

JUDGE BONVENTURA HAS A HIGH

PROFILE AFTER 31 YEARS ON THE

BENCH THAT INCLUDED APPEARANCES

IN A GROUNDBREAKING DOCUMENTARY

SERIES ON JUVENILE JUSTICE IN

LAKE COUNTY THAT AIRED ON A

(I TRULY BELIEVE THAT

MARY BETH BONAVENTURA IS

UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO LEAD THE

DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SERVICES IN

THE STATE OF INDIANA.)

(THE

EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE GAINED

SERVING THE PEOPLE IN LAKE

COUNTY HAS JUST SET ME UP TO

COME HERE AND TRY TO HELP THE

PEOPLE STATEWIDE IN THE WAY, IN

THE METHODS AND SKILLS THAT I'VE

ATTAINED SERVING AS JUDGE IN

WILL JUDGE BONAVENTURA RIGHT THE

SHIP AT DSC?

IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR

INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL

DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY REPUBBICAN

MIKE MCDANIEL JON SCHWANTES, THE

HOST OF INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND

JOHN KETZENBERGER, PRESIDENT OF

THE INDIANA FISCAL POLICY

INSTITUTE I'M WISH-TV STATEHOUSE

REPORTER JIM SHELLA ANN DELANEY,

.

>> I THINK IT IS A GOOD CHOICE,

EVAN BAYH APPOINTED TO

THE BENCH YEARS AGO, AND THE

REVIEWS OF HER PERFORMANCE

VERY POSITIVE, I'M HOPING THE

SHE HAS THE

ADMINISTRATIVE SKILLS AS WELL.

THE DEPARTMENT IS A

MESS, IT HAS BEEN FOR YEARS, THE

WHOLE ATTITUDE ISN'T

GEARED TO PROTECTING CHILDREN

FIRST, THAT IS HER

REPUTATION, AND IF SHE CAN GET

THAT BUREAUCRACY IN

LINE, I THINK IT WILL BE AN

GREAT APPOINTMENT.

>> WHILE YOU SAY IT WAS A MESS,

JOHN RYAN WAS THE CHIEF

OF STAFF UNDER JIM PAYNE AND

TOOK OVER WHEN MANY

DEPARTED, AND JUDGE BONVENTURA

SAID SHE COULDN'T DO

THIS WITHOUT RYAN.

>> BECAUSE SHE'S A QUALITY GUY,

THIS IS A FREIGHT

CHOICE BY THE GOVERNOR. BEING

WELL RECEIVED BY

REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE,

THE TIMES OF NORTHWEST

INDIANA EDITORIAL LIDS IT IS

LAKE'S COUNTY LOSS AND THE

STATE'S GAIN, SO IT'S A VERY

POPULAR CHOICE, ANN IS

RIGHT, THIS IS A HUGE

DEPARTMENT, AND SHE SEEMS TO GET

IT, AT LEAST IN HER INITIAL

COMMENTS BUT WHAT THIS

TAKES AND HOW HARD THIS JOB IS

FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THE

KIND OF DECISIONS IN VERY TOUGH

SITUATIONS, I THINK SHE

WILL BE A GREAT ONE.

>> DOESN'T HURT FOR MIKE PENCE

TO DO SOME LAKE COUNTY

OUTREACH.

>> I'M SURE THAT DOESN'T HURT.

AS MIKE SEGMENTED,

THERE WERE LOTS OF VERY

COMPLIMENTARY THINGS SAID BY

LAKE COUNTY DEMOCRATS AND OTHERS

WHO HAVE WORKED WITH

HER OVER THE YEARS AND FOUND HER

TO BE A QUALITY

INDIVIDUAL ON THE BENCH AND HER

WORK IN THE COMMUNITY,

I THINK IT SCORES ON ALL OF

THOSE APPOINTMENTS. I

DON'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY, BUT

JUDGING FROM WHAT

EVERYBODY HAS SAID, MEDIUM FROM

BOTH SIDES OF THE

AISLE, IT'S A GOOD PEOPLE, WHO

THERE HAVE BEEN STRAINED

RELATIONSHIPS AT TIMES BETWEEN

THE AGENCY AND JUDGES

AROUND THE STATE. AND ONE WOULD

PRESUME TO HAVE

SOMEBODY WHO HAS HER BACKGROUND

AND CREDENTIALS, SHE'S

A MEMBER OF THE CLUB, IF YOU

WILL, WHO BETTER, MAYBE,

TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE

TENSIONS AND BUILD A NEW SORT

OF COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT WITH

JUDGES ACROSS THE STATE.

>> I MENTIONED THIS DOCUMENTARY

THAT SHE APPEARED IN,

WE'RE NOT USED TO CAMERAS IN

INDIANA COURTROOMS, MUCH

LESS JUVENILE, SO. AND SHE MADE

A STRONG APERSONS ON

TELEVISION, DO YOU EXPECT SHE

WILL HAVE A HIGHER

PROFILE?

>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, I

THINK IT'S GOOD FOR

SUN TO BE OUT THERE ADVOCATING

ON BEHALF OF THE

CHILDREN WHO NEED IT IN THE

STATE, AND I WOULD NOTE

JUDGE PAYNE CAME FROM THE RANKS

OF JUVENILE JOURNAL,

HOPEFULLY SHE WILL TAKE

LEADERSHIP, SHE DID A FIRM

POLICY AND THEN SHE CAN GET

EMPTION TO BUY INTO THIS,

BECAUSE THE CRITICAL PIECE, SHE

TALKED ABOUT THE PEOPLE

WHO HAVE TO GO INTO HOMES,

CASEWORKERS WHO HAVE TO MAKE

QUICK ADJUSTMENTS, VERY

STRESSFUL, DIFFICULT JOBS,

THEY'RE THE KEY COMPONENT HERE,

AND I HOPE SHE CAN LEAD

THEM FORWARD WITH GOOD POLICY

BACKED UP BY

ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT AND TAKE

CARE OF THE PROBLEM OF

CHILDREN HURT AND EVEN KILLED IN

SITUATIONS THAT CAN BE

BE

AVOIDED IF POSSIBLE.

>> IF SHE SETS THE TONE, THAT'S

WHAT IT'S GOING TO

TAKE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE

DIFFICULT JOBS, AND THE TONE IN

RECENT YEARS, AND WHEN TALKING

ABOUT HIGH PROFILE, HARD

TO TALK ABOUT A DCS HEAD HIGHER

PROFILE THAN JAMES

PAYNE, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IF YOU

SET A PROFILE SAYING

THE FIRST SHE COULD AND THIRD

OBJECTIVE OF THE AGENCY

IS TO PROTECT CHILDREN, NOT

REUNITE FAMILIES, THAT'S

NOT THE ATTITUDE DCS NEEDS, THAT

HAS BEEN THE ATTITUDE.

ADMINISTRATION, SO IF SHE SETS A

DIFFERENT TONE, I

THINK WE CAN SEE DIFFERENT

RESULTS.

>> I THINK EVERYBODY WISHES HER

WELL, BUT THE CHALLENGE

FOR HER, THERE'S SO MANY

ATTENTION ON THE AGENCY

BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN

RECENT YEARS IN SOME OF THE

HIGH PROFILE LAPSES, IF YOU WANT

TO SAY OR SITUATIONS

WHERE CHILDREN EITHER WERE

HARMED OR DIED.

>> AND PROBLEMS WITH THE CALL

CENTER.

>> AND THE CHALLENGE FOR HER

SEEMS THIS, ANYBODY IN

THAT POSITION. THE SCOREBOARD

NEVER LIGHTS UP IF YOU

SUCCEED, BECAUSE IF YOU SUCCEED

AND SAVE A CHILD FROM A

BAD SITUATION, IT NEVER -- YOU

JUST DON'T KNOW, IT

HAPPENS IN PRIVATE, THE ONLY

TIME THE SCORE BOTHERED

SHOWS UP, IT'S A NEGATIVE WAY

WHEN SOMETHING FALLS

THROUGH THE CRACKS, SOMEBODY

HARMED OR WHO SHOULD HAVE

BEFORE SHIELDED BY THE STATE AND

ISN'T, SHE GOES INTO

IT WITH THE TOUCH CHALLENGE?

HOW DO YOU PROVE YOU ARE

DOING THE JOB WHICH EANS THE

ABSENCE OF BED NEWS?

>> WELL, YOU CAN START BY HAVING

NO CHILD WHO HAS BEEN

UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE DCS

AND ON THE SCREEN REUNION

NIGHT WITH A FAMILY THAT

ULTIMATELY ENDS UP KILLING

THAT CHILD IT'S JUST LIKE NO

PRESS IS GOOD PRESS.

>> GOVERNOR PENCE REQUESTED A

BRIEFING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

NATURAL RESOURCES THIS WEEK

REGARDING THE PROSECUTION OF A

CONNERSVILLE COUPLE.

JEFF COUNCELLOR AND

HIS WIFE JENNIFER NURSED AN

INJURED DEER NAMED "DANI" BACK

TO HEALTH.

BUT, INDIANA LAW PROHIBITS THE

POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMALS.

AND, THE COUPLE NOW FACES

CHARGES.

THEIR PLIGHT HAS SPARKED OUTRAGE

AROUND THE COUNTRY BUT THE

GOVERNOR SAYS DNR ACTED

>> ALL ADMIRE COMPASSION FOR AN

INJURED ANIMAL

BUT THIS IS A STATE OF

LAWS.

AND, AS GOVERNOR OF INDIANA, MY

FOCUS IS GOING TO BE TO ENSURE

THAT OUR LAWS ARE FAIRLY AND

THAT WAS THE GOVERN ON

WEDNESDAY, HE HAS SINCE

APPARENTLY CHANGED HIS POSITION,

THERE'S A DNR RELEASE

AND SAID AT THE GOVERNOR'S

REQUEST, THEY'RE NOT GOING

TO CARRY OUT PROSECUTION OF THIS

COUPLE.

>> I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNOR

MISREAD IT, WHEN A DNR

PERSON FOLLOWS THE LETTER OF THE

LAW AND DIDN'T USE

COMMON SENSE, IN MY OPINION, HE

FOLD THE LAW, NO

QUESTION ABOUT THAT, BUT THE

GOVERNOR DID ASK THEM TO

REEVALUATE, AND THE DNR ASKING

TO BE DISMISSED, TO

BAMBI GAIT, WILL SOON BE BEHIND

US, AND I ALWAYS GET A

KICK OUT OF THE VERY PEOPLE WHO

COMPLAINS ABOUT THESE

KINDS OF SITUATIONS, TAKING AWAY

FROM THE DEBATES ON

THINGS LIKE JOBS ARE THE SAME

ONES THAT FANNED THIS

FLAME ALL WEEK.

>> MY TAKE WAS THIS WASN'T THE

BIGGEST ISSUE BUT

SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY

UNDERSTANDS EXCEPT IT

APPEARED -- IT APPEARED

INITIALLY THAT THE GOVERNOR

DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

>> I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT

HAPPENED, AND THEN WHEN

THE OUT RAGE CAME, AND I DON'T

THINK IT WAS FANNED OR

FLAMED BY POLITICIANS ON EAST

SIDE, I THINK PEOPLE WHO

READ ABOUT THIS SAID WHAT ARE

THEY THINKING? IN ANY

CASE, PEOPLE BREAK THE LAW ALL

THE TIME, OKAY? AND

THAT'S WHAT PRODUCE MATERIAL

DISCRETION IS ALL ABOUT,

YOU GO AFTER THOSE THAT DESERVE

PROSECUTION, THIS WAS A

CLASSIC CASE, AND THEY SHOULD

HAVE SENSED IT FROM THE

BEGINNING.

>> BUT IT ENDS UP -- I THINK

SHAWN EBER HEART THE

COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES THE DNR

HAD IT RIGHT WHEN HE

ESSENTIALLY MADE THE SAME

ARGUMENT ANN DID, LET'S APPLY

A LITTLE COMMON SENSE HERE.

APPARENTLY THE PEOPLE WHO

NURSED THIS DEAR BACK TO LIFE A

COUPLE OF YEARS AGO

THINK THEY SAW IT ACROSS A FIELD

YESTERDAY, SO RIGHT,

IT'S A HAPPY ENDING, BUT I WAS

SICK AND TIRED OF THAT

SHORE BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

>> BUT SERIOUSLY, WAS THIS ABOUT

THE DEAR OR ABOUT THE

GOVERNOR'S HANDLING?

>> I THINK WE COLLECTIVELY MADE

IT MORE COMPLICATE THAN

IT NEEDED TO BE WHEN WE STARTED%

TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE

OF GOVERNMENT IS IS MIKE PENCE

AS A CHAMPION OF SMALL

GOVERNMENT AND NOT LOOK OVER

YOUR SHOULDER ALL THE

TIME -- THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS

ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT A

CUTE LILLY DEAR NAMED DANI,

THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO

KNOW, YOU SEE THE PICTURE, DONE.

AND THE REASON --

LET'S SAY THIS IS, EVERGLADES,

FLORIDA DEALING WITH ITS

INVASIVE PIE NONES, IF THIS

COUPLE HAD SOMEHOW RESCUED

AN INJURIED PIE NONE, I DON'T

THINK THERE WOULD BE THIS

GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT.

TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK.

EACH WEEK WE POSE AN

UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL

QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR

ICEMILLER E-MAIL AND TEXT

GOVERNOR PENCE AND STATE SCHOOL

SUPERINTENDENT GLENDA RITZ MET

THIS WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME

SINCE TAKING OFFICE.

IT'S A MEETING

THAT TOOK PLACE IN RITZ'S

STATEHOUSE OFFICE AND AT HER

INVITATION.

THE TWO FOUND COMMON GROUND

REGARDING VOCATIONAL EDUCATION

AND RITZ SAID SHE PASSED UP THE

OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP THE

PENCE BUDGET WHICH INCREASES

SCHOOL SPENDING BY JUST

1-PERCENT.. (SOT) ((GLENDA

RITZ/(D) STATE SCHOOL

SUPERINTENDENT: NO, WE DIDN'T

TALK ABOUT BUDGET AT ALL.

WE SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT

STUDENTS, PHILOSOPHICAL

KETZENBERGER, DOES IT SURPRISE

YOU THAT THE GOVERNOR WENT TO

>> I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD

POLITICS. IT LOOKS GOOD WHEN

HE'S WALKING ACROSS THE

STATEHOUSE AND OVER TO HER

OFFICE.

>> ACTUALLY, HE CAME IN FROM THE

PARKING LOT AND WENT

DIRECTLY INTO HER OFFICE.

>> FROM WHERE HE PARKS -- THANK

YOU FOR THE OUTLINE OF

THE STATEHOUSE, JIM. TO ANSWER

YOUR QUESTION, IT'S A

SMART POLITICAL THING TO DO, AND

IT DOES MAKE SENSE

POLITICALLY FOR HIM TO GO TO HER

OFFICE, AND IT WAS A

GOOD IDEA. I'M GLAD THEY DID

IT.

>> THESE TWO ARE GOING TO BE FUN

TO WATCH.

>> SURE, AND YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE

THE FACT: JUST LOOK AT

THEIR POSITIONS, THEY COULD NOT

BE --

>> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF

PEOPLE WHO EXPECT

TENSION.

>> TIP LATE WHEN IT GETS TO

WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND

VOCATIONAL EDUCATION, AFTER

THAT, IT STOPS, THE

QUESTION IN MY MIND, HOW LONG

CAN THEY BE THIS VERY

MUCH SMILING, COLLEGIATE, MAYBE

THE HONEYMOON CAN LAST

A LONG TIME, BUT AT SOME POINT

THE POLICY WILL HAVE TO

RAIN ON THE NICENESS PARADE.

SUEELLEN REED GOT ALONG WITH

THE,

THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T LIKE IT.

>> I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASANTLY

SURPRISED. HOW WELL

THESE TWO GET ALONG, THEY'VE MET

THREE TIMES SINCE

SHE'S BEEN ELECTED, AND THE VOC,

ED IS ONE AREA THEY DO

AGREE ON, AND PEOPLE FORGET,

MIKE'S WIFE BEING A

TEACHER, THERE'S GOING TO BE A

LOT MORE COOPERATION

THAN PEOPLE THINK BETWEEN GLENDA

RITZ AND MIKE PENCE

LONG HAUL, THEY WANT TO MEET

REGULARLY, THIS IS NOT

NEWS THAT HE WENT TO HER OFFICE,

MIKE GETS IT, HE GOT

ALL KINDS OF STYLE POINTS A WEEK

AGO FOR WALKING IN THE

HOUSE AND SENATE AND SAYING

HELLO, AND HAD DEMOCRATS

AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE SAYING WE

NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN

BEFORE, HE GETS IT, YOU'LL SEE

HIM AROUND THE BUILDING,

HE WANTS TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

>> THE REAL TEST COMES WITH

ISSUES SUCH AS VOUCHER

EXPANSION COMES UP.

>> THERE'S ALWAYS GOING OBJECT

DIFFERENCES JON.

>> SO THEY'LL GET ALONG, WILL

THEY WORK TOGETHER?

>> I THINK THEY WILL WORK

TOGETHER, SHE'S COMMITTED TO

BETTERING EDUCATION, HE SAYS HE

IS AS WELL, SHE'S NOT

POLITICAL. THE REASON SHE RAN

WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS

INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE OF

EDUCATION IN INDIANA, AND

IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S IN THE

GOVERNOR'S INTEREST TO HAVE

THE EDUCATION IN INDIANA BE

BRIGHTER, THEY OUGHT TO GET

ALONG.

THE BILL THAT COULD LEAD TO A

NEW MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM IN

CENTRAL INDIANA ADVANCED IN THE

GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS WEEK.

(VO) A COMMITTEE IN THE

INDIANA HOUSE VOTED 11-TO-1 FOR

THE MEASURE THAT CALLS FOR A

REFERENDUM ON A LOCAL INCOME TAX

HIKE IN HAMILTON ANN MARION

COUNTIES.

THE MONEY WOULD BE USED TO BUILD

A BETTER BUS SYSTEM.

THE PLAN HAS THE SUPPORT OF

MAYOR GREG BALLARD BUT FAILED TO

WIN APPROVAL IN TWO PREVIOUS

SESSIONS OF THE LEGISLATURE..

(SOT) ((RON GIFFORD/INDY

CONNECT NOW: I THINK A LOT OF

LEGISLATORS UNDERSTAND NOW THAT

LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FACE A LOT OF

DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AND THAT

LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE DIFFERENT

NEEDS AND THEY NEED DIFFERENT

WAYS TO DEAL WITH THOSE NEEDS

AND THE TRADITIONAL WAYS OF

FUNDING, PROPERTY TAX, INCOME

TAX AND THE LIKE, MAY BE NOT BE

SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THOSE

NEEDS IN THE FUTURE.

JON SCHWANTES,

HAVE ATTITUDES CHANGED REGARDING

>> I THINK IT APPEARS THERE IS

MOVEMENT IN SOME

SECTORS, OVER INDIVIDUALS, FOR

INSTANCE THE SENATE,

THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE OF A

THEME OF SKEPTICISM THAN IN

THE HOUSE, SO THE SMOOTHNESS

GOING FOR THIS BILL MAY BE

EARLY ON AND THEN THE QUESTION

MARKS WILL ARISE, BUT

HOW THIS WAS POSITIONED THIS

WEEK, THE STATEMENTS THAT

CAME OUT AFTER THE VOTE,

EVERYBODY WAS SAYING THIS IS

ALL ABOUT GIVING LOCALS THE

OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR

OWN DECISION, ALMOST AS IF YOU

ARE WRITING THE NOTE TO

GROVER NORQUIST, WE'RE NOT

WRITING FOR A TAX INCREASE,

THE POLL THAT WISH-TV DID WITH

BALL STATE BACK BEFORE

THE SESSION SHOWED THAT THERE

MAY NOT BE AS MUCH OF AN

OPPOSITION TO TAX INCREASES AS

CONVENTIONAL WISDOM COME

WOULD DICTATION, AS LONG AS

THERE ARE CAUSES, AND IF

THIS CASE THERE ARE SPECIFIC

BENEFICIARIES.

>> MIKE PENCE HAS SIGNED THAT

AND HASN'T TAKEN A

POSITION ON THIS BILL, DOES THIS

NEED MIKE PENCE'S

SUPPORT?

>> IF IT'S GOING TO GET ENACTED,

IT DOES, I THINK THIS

WHOLE GROVER NORQUIST THING IS

INTERESTING. THIS IS,

SERIOUSLY ABOUT LOCAL DETERMINE

NATION, AND IT'S A

LONG-STANDING ISSUE BETWEEN THE

LEGISLATURE AND LOCAL

GOVERNMENT. IS IT A TAX

INCREASE IF THE LEGISLATURE

ALLOWS A LOCAL COMMUNITY TO

DETERMINE WHAT IT NEEDS AND

HOW TO PAY TO THAT, AND I THINK

GROVER NORQUIST OUGHT

TO GET HIS HEAD OUT OF LOCAL

BUSINESS --

>> THAT WAS CLOSE.

>> IT WAS, BUT HE NEEDS TO BUTT

OUT, AND ALLOW PEOPLE,

STATES TO GOVERNOR THEMSELVES

AND LET PEOPLE MAKE

DECISIONS FOR THEIR OWN

CONSTITUENCY.

>> THIS NOW HAS TO GO TO THE

HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS

COMMITTEE.

>> THIS IS GOOD PROGRESS.

REPRESENTATIVE GOT IT OUT

WITH A SOLID MA GURLET, IF YOU

ARE DEVELOPING A

WAREHOUSE BUSINESS WHICH WE ARE

IN CENTRAL INDIANA AND

NOT PAYING THOSE JOBS ALL THAT

MUCH, WE NEED A

TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO GET

THEY SEE PEOPLE TO WORK,

IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU WANT JOBS,

IF YOU WANT TO BE A

HIGH CLASS CITY, YOU HAVE TO

HAVE A PUBLIC

TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT

WORKS.

>> THIRD TIME A CHARM?

>> THEY HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO,

NOW GOES TO WAYS AND

MEANS COMMITTEE, WHERE THE

CHAIRMAN TOLD ME HE PLANS TO

MOVE ON IT QUICKLY, BUT IT WILL

BE A BONDING AUTHORITY,

NOT A MAJOR PART OF THE

DISCUSSION THE FIRST TIME

AROUND, A WHOLE ANOTHER ASPECT,

BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY

MOVEMENT ABOUT LETTING THIS GO

FORWARD AND LETTING

LOCALS DECIDE, MADE A LOT OF

PROGRESS IN A SHORT PERIOD

OF TIME.

>> THERE MAY BE SOME EXPANSION

OF THE BUS SYSTEM AND

RAIL.

>> WE NEED BOTH.

THERE MAY BE NO GAY MARRIAGE

DEBATE IN THE INDIANA GENERAL

ASSEMBLY THIS YEAR.

LEADERS MAY POSTPONE IT TILL

NEXT YEAR.

(TAKE VO) SENATE GOP LEADER

DAVID LONG SAYS CONSIDERATION OF

A PERMANENT BAN ON GAY MARRIAGE

HAS BEEN DELAYED AND A JOINT

ANNOUNCEMENT BY HIM AND SPEAKER

BRIAN BOSMA IS SCHEDULED FOR

LATE NEXT WEEK.

ONE FACTOR IN THE DECISION IS A

CASE NOW PENDING IN THE SUPREME

COURT.. (WIPE TO SOT) ((I

THINK IT'S INADVISABLE TO MOVE

FORWARD WITH THE UNITED STATES

SUPREME COURT HAVING THE

QUESTION BEFORE IT BUT I'M NOT

MAKING THAT DECISION BY MYSELF

AND TALKING TO FOLKS ON BOTH

SIDES OF THE ISSUE AND RECEIVING

THEIR OPINIONS AS WELL.

)) ((YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER

CRITICAL ISSUES TO ADDRESS.

WE WANTED TO PUT OUR FOCUS ON

THAT.

THE TIME IS COMING TO COME TO A

DECISION ON THAT.

)) ( ON CAM ) MIKE MCDANIEL,

IS THAT A DEAD ISSUE FOR THIS

>> I PROBABLY WOULD SAY IT IS.

DAVID LONG HAS

PRESIDENT PRO TEM IN THE SENATE

AND SAID WE'VE GOT

OTHER THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT,

BRIAN BOSMA QUOTED

CONTINUOUSLY AS SAYING IT'S NOT

OUR PRIORITY. THE TWO

OF THEM HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR

CAUCUSES PAUSE NOW UP

AGAINST THE TIME FRAME OF

WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO ACT

ON IT OR NOT. I THINK AFTER

THEY COME OUT OF THE

CAUCUS, THE DECISION WILL MAKE

TO APPROXIMATES THIS

YEAR, SIT BACK AND SEE WHAT THE

SUPREME COURT DOES.

>> IS IT REALISTIC TO THINK THAT

THE SUPREME COURT WILL

MAKE THIS A MOOT POINT?

>> NO, IT PROBABLY IS NOT. BUT

HAVING SAID THAT,

ATTITUDES ARE CHANGING AT A VERY

RAPID PACE, AND WHEN

YOU HAVE ALL THE BECAME BUSINESS

COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL

INDIANA ALL PRESSING NOT TO PASS

THIS, IT SEEMS TO ME,

LETTING SOMETIME GO BY AND

SEEING WHETHER THE ATTITUDES

ARE THE SAME NEXT YEAR, AND THEY

SHOULD BE APPLAUDED

FOR TAKING THAT CONTROVERSIAL

ISSUE OFF THE TABLE.

>> I THINK AS ANN SAID, THE

POLLING MOVING IN THAT

DIRECTION, SO IF IT DOES GET ON

THE BALLOT IN 2014, I

DON'T THINK A FOREGONE

CONCLUSION EITHER WAY, IT WILL

BE AN INTERESTING CAMPAIGN, AND

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE WILL

OF THE PEOPLE IS.

. IF IT PASSES 2013 OR 14, IT

BECOMES A REFERENDUM IN

NOVEMBER 2014. SHOULD

REPUBLICANS BE CONCERNED THAT

HAVING AT THAT ON THE BALLOT

COULD HURT THEIR

CANDIDATES AT THIS POINT?

>> I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ISSUE

PERHAPS THAT'S EVOLVED AS

QUICKLY AS THIS ONE, IF YOU HAVE

ASKED ME THAT QUESTION

FIVE YEARS AGO, I WOULD HAVE

BEEN DEFINITIVE IT

WOULDN'T HURT THEM AT ALL, PRIOR

TO THE 2012 REFERENDA

AROUND THE COUNTRY, ALL OF WHICH

DECIDED IN FAVOR OF

GAY MARRIAGE, BEFORE THAT, THERE

WAS A HISTORY OF IT

BEING USED AS A DRIVER TO GET

PEOPLE TO THE POLLS. FOR

REPUBLICANS, THANKS, BUT NOW,

BECAUSE OF THESE EVOLVING

OPINIONS,, AND I SHOULD SAY,

THIS IS A FASCINATING

ISSUE, AND ONE YOU WILL PROBABLY

WANT TO TUNE INTO

"INDIANA LAWMAKERS" THIS WEEK ON

MANY OF THESE SAME

TELL VAGUE STATIONS WHERE WE

DEVOTE THE WHOLE HALF HOUR

TO GAY MARRIAGE.

>>

THREE-TIME INDY 500 CHAMP DARIO

FRANCHITTI AND ACTRESS ASHLEY

JUDD ARE CALLING IT QUITS.

(VO) THE HIGH-PROFILE PAIR

ARE DIVORCING AFTER MORE THAN 10

YEARS OF MARRIAGE.

IN A STATEMENT.. THEY SAID THE

DECISION WAS MUTUAL AND THEY

WOULD ALWAYS BE FAMILY.

JUDD TWEETED "FAMILY FOREVER."

SHE IS RUMORED TO BE CONSIDERING

A RUN FOR A SENATE SEAT IN

KENTUCKY.

(VO OUT) ANN DELANEY, WILL

SHE HAVE BETTER LUCK IN POLITICS

IF SHE'S NOT MARRIED TO SOMEONE

FROM SCOTLAND?,

>> I DIDN'T REALLY THINK IT WAS

A DISABILITY TO BE

MARRIED TO SOMEONE FROM SCOTT

LAP, IS THAT NOW A

TERRORIST HEY CONVENTION OR HIS

ACCENT THAT BOTHERS

YOU.

>> WILL HE BE A BETTER DRIVER IF

HE DOESN'T HAVE A SPOT

IN HIS PIT TAKEN UP BY SOMEONE

READING A BOOK.

>> THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS

ME ABOUT ASHLEY JUDD IS

SHE'S A HUGE UNIVERSE OF

KENTUCKY BASKETBALL FAN.

>>

THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW

FOR THIS WEEK.

OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN

DELANEY REPUBLICAN MIKE

MCDANIEL JON SCHWANTES OF

INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND JOHN

KETZENBERGER OF THE INDIANA

FISCAL POLICY INSTITUTE IF

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