WEBVTT 00:04.503 --> 00:06.737 align:start >>BRANDON: WE LOOK AHEAD INTO 00:06.740 --> 00:07.638 align:start 2021. 00:07.641 --> 00:08.672 align:start COVID-19'S IMPACT ON THE 00:08.675 --> 00:09.841 align:start LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 00:09.844 --> 00:11.809 align:start A POTENTIAL FIGHT OVER EMERGENCY 00:11.812 --> 00:13.411 align:start POWERS. 00:13.414 --> 00:14.812 align:start PLUS, REDISTRICTING, THE BUDGET 00:14.815 --> 00:16.213 align:start AND MORE ON INDIANA WEEK IN 00:16.216 --> 00:37.735 align:start REVIEW FOR THE WEEK ENDING 00:37.738 --> 00:39.771 align:start JANUARY 1ST, 2021. 00:39.774 --> 00:41.839 align:start >>>THIS WEEK, WE LOOK AHEAD TO 00:41.842 --> 00:43.373 align:start THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE SESSION...A 00:43.376 --> 00:44.241 align:start SESSION THAT'S ALMOST CERTAIN TO 00:44.244 --> 00:47.178 align:start BE DOMINATED, IN ONE WAY OR 00:47.181 --> 00:48.312 align:start ANOTHER, BY COVID-19. 00:48.315 --> 00:50.314 align:start THE TONE OF THE SESSION WAS 00:50.317 --> 00:51.315 align:start LIKELY SET ON ORGANIZATION DAY 00:51.318 --> 00:52.283 align:start IN NOVEMBER, WHEN LEADERS OF 00:52.286 --> 00:53.851 align:start BOTH PARTIES TALKED ABOUT THE 00:53.854 --> 00:54.852 align:start LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE 00:54.855 --> 00:56.053 align:start COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND HOW THEY 00:56.056 --> 00:57.989 align:start WOULD INFLUENCE LAWMAKERS' 00:57.992 --> 00:59.357 align:start AGENDAS THIS YEAR. 00:59.360 --> 01:00.491 align:start HOUSE SPEAKER TODD HUSTON SAID 01:00.494 --> 01:01.793 align:start HE'S LEARNED THAT THE HOOSIER 01:01.796 --> 01:02.960 align:start STATE'S POOR PUBLIC HEALTH HAS 01:02.963 --> 01:03.628 align:start HAD A DISPROPORTIONATELY 01:03.631 --> 01:05.663 align:start NEGATIVE IMPACT DURING THE 01:05.666 --> 01:06.864 align:start PANDEMIC. 01:06.867 --> 01:08.466 align:start >>REP. TODD HUSTON: WE HAVE TO 01:08.469 --> 01:10.334 align:start CREATE INCENTIVES AND POLICIES 01:10.337 --> 01:11.836 align:start TO HELP HOOSIERS BE HEALTHIER. 01:11.839 --> 01:13.170 align:start AND THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS 01:13.173 --> 01:15.673 align:start WILL BRING LEGISLATION FORWARD 01:15.676 --> 01:17.475 align:start THIS SESSION TO DO JUST THAT. 01:17.478 --> 01:18.409 align:start >>BRANDON: SENATE MINORITY 01:18.412 --> 01:19.710 align:start LEADER GREG TAYLOR SAYS THE 01:19.713 --> 01:20.277 align:start PANDEMIC EXPOSED SHARP 01:20.280 --> 01:21.212 align:start DISPARITIES THAT ALREADY 01:21.215 --> 01:23.915 align:start EXISTED. 01:23.918 --> 01:26.384 align:start >>SEN. GREG TAYLOR: AND YES, 01:26.387 --> 01:27.985 align:start COMMUNITIES OF COLOR HAVE NOW 01:27.988 --> 01:29.019 align:start MOVED TO THE FOREFRONT AND ARE 01:29.022 --> 01:30.754 align:start MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM THIS 01:30.757 --> 01:31.422 align:start VIRUS. 01:31.425 --> 01:32.456 align:start >>BRANDON: THE LEGISLATIVE 01:32.459 --> 01:35.792 align:start SESSION'S SCHEDULED START IS 01:35.795 --> 01:37.394 align:start JANUARY 4. 01:37.397 --> 01:38.529 align:start JUST HOW MUCH WILL COVID-19 01:38.532 --> 01:39.763 align:start DOMINATE THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE 01:39.766 --> 01:41.466 align:start SESSION? 01:41.469 --> 01:42.533 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 01:42.536 --> 01:44.034 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL: 01:44.037 --> 01:46.270 align:start DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY 01:46.273 --> 01:47.037 align:start REPUBLICAN JENNIFER HALLOWELL 01:47.040 --> 01:47.438 align:start JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 01:47.441 --> 01:49.107 align:start LAWMAKERS AND 01:49.110 --> 01:51.342 align:start NIKI KELLY, STATEHOUSE REPORTER 01:51.345 --> 01:51.576 align:start FOR THE FORT WAYNE JOURNAL 01:51.579 --> 01:53.144 align:start GAZETTE. 01:53.147 --> 01:53.678 align:start I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 01:53.681 --> 01:55.079 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 01:55.082 --> 01:59.950 align:start SMITH. 01:59.953 --> 02:01.752 align:start JENNIFER HALLOWELL, HOW MUCH 02:01.755 --> 02:05.156 align:start -- IF YOU ARE A LAWMAKER THAT 02:05.159 --> 02:05.723 align:start WANTS TO GET SOMETHING DONE NOT 02:05.726 --> 02:09.560 align:start DIRECTLY RELATED TO COVID HOW 02:09.563 --> 02:10.261 align:start DIFFICULT WILL THAT BE IN THE 02:10.264 --> 02:12.530 align:start 2021 SESSION? 02:12.533 --> 02:14.131 align:start >> IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. 02:14.134 --> 02:16.901 align:start IT'S A BUDGET SESSION AND 02:16.904 --> 02:18.035 align:start EVERYTHING WILL BE DOMINATED BY 02:18.038 --> 02:20.905 align:start COVID AND THE SCHEDULE MAY END 02:20.908 --> 02:23.107 align:start UP CHANGING. 02:23.110 --> 02:26.510 align:start BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE GOING 02:26.513 --> 02:27.912 align:start TO BE A LOT OF ISSUES, SOME 02:27.915 --> 02:29.846 align:start DIRECTLY COVID RELATED AND SOME 02:29.849 --> 02:31.682 align:start FRANKLY, ISSUES THAT WERE 02:31.685 --> 02:33.317 align:start BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE 02:33.320 --> 02:36.520 align:start OF THE PANDEMIC. 02:36.523 --> 02:39.089 align:start YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE BROADBAND 02:39.092 --> 02:41.725 align:start ACCESS, ISSUES AS THE SPEAKER 02:41.728 --> 02:43.360 align:start MENTIONED, A LOT OF THINGS THAT 02:43.363 --> 02:45.529 align:start REALLY WE REALIZED OUR BIGGER 02:45.532 --> 02:47.932 align:start ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED 02:47.935 --> 02:50.568 align:start THROUGH THIS TIME PERIOD. 02:50.571 --> 02:52.336 align:start AND SO THERE WILL BE SECOND AND 02:52.339 --> 02:54.071 align:start THIRD LAYER EFFECTS OF ISSUES 02:54.074 --> 02:56.574 align:start THAT COME TOGETHER. 02:56.577 --> 02:56.840 align:start ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE TO PASS A 02:56.843 --> 03:00.144 align:start BUDGET. 03:00.147 --> 03:01.312 align:start THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO MUCH 03:01.315 --> 03:03.147 align:start MORE THAN THAT CERTAINLY READ 03:03.150 --> 03:04.282 align:start DISTRICTING WILL HAVE TO TAKE 03:04.285 --> 03:07.585 align:start PLACE ALSO. 03:07.588 --> 03:08.986 align:start BUT I THINK THAT IT WILL BE A 03:08.989 --> 03:11.922 align:start CHALLENGE SOMETIMES FOR US TO 03:11.925 --> 03:12.890 align:start ADDRESS ISSUES THAT MAY NOT FALL 03:12.893 --> 03:15.526 align:start DIRECTLY IN LINE. 03:15.529 --> 03:17.128 align:start >> WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT 03:17.131 --> 03:18.395 align:start REDISTRICTING AND THE BUDGETING 03:18.398 --> 03:22.333 align:start AND A SECOND. 03:22.336 --> 03:23.400 align:start ANN DELANEY, IN SOME WAYS IT'S 03:23.403 --> 03:26.604 align:start COVID NINETEENS FOCUS WILL BRING 03:26.607 --> 03:27.338 align:start NEW LIFE TO ISSUES WE'VE DEBATED 03:27.341 --> 03:28.805 align:start FOR YEARS. 03:28.808 --> 03:30.207 align:start I THINK ABOUT INCREASING THE 03:30.210 --> 03:32.310 align:start CIGARETTE TAX SOMETHING THAT'S 03:32.313 --> 03:34.679 align:start BEEN DEBATED AND PASSED BY THE 03:34.682 --> 03:36.146 align:start HOUSE IN MULTIPLE PAST SESSIONS. 03:36.149 --> 03:38.082 align:start WITH THE RENEWED FOCUS ON HEALTH 03:38.085 --> 03:41.218 align:start OUTCOMES AND THE NEED FOR 03:41.221 --> 03:41.652 align:start REVENUE GIVE LIFE TO THAT AMONG 03:41.655 --> 03:43.087 align:start COVID-19? 03:43.090 --> 03:46.957 align:start >> YOU WOULD HOPE SO. 03:46.960 --> 03:48.358 align:start THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO PUT CAPS 03:48.361 --> 03:49.293 align:start ON CIGARETTES AND IT WOULD GIVE 03:49.296 --> 03:50.995 align:start US MONEY. 03:50.998 --> 03:53.163 align:start I'M HAPPY TO HEAR SPEAKER 03:53.166 --> 03:54.164 align:start HOUSTON TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO 03:54.167 --> 03:56.166 align:start ADDRESS PUBLIC HEALTH AND I HOPE 03:56.169 --> 03:59.570 align:start AS PART OF THAT WHEN YOU TALK 03:59.573 --> 04:00.705 align:start ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT WE ARE 48 04:00.708 --> 04:03.040 align:start OUT OF THE 50TH STATES AND WHAT 04:03.043 --> 04:04.942 align:start WE SPEND ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND 04:04.945 --> 04:06.377 align:start THAT REFLECTS THE FACT THAT 04:06.380 --> 04:08.312 align:start NATURALLY OUR POOR HEALTH 04:08.315 --> 04:10.681 align:start SHOWING REFLECTS THE FACT THAT 04:10.684 --> 04:12.716 align:start WE ARE 48 OUT OF 50 ON WHERE WE 04:12.719 --> 04:13.784 align:start STAND ON EDUCATION AND EARLY 04:13.787 --> 04:16.654 align:start TREATMENT AND INTERVENTION IN 04:16.657 --> 04:17.521 align:start NUTRITION AND ALL OF THE THINGS 04:17.524 --> 04:18.656 align:start THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO PUBLIC 04:18.659 --> 04:21.925 align:start HEALTH SO I AM GLAD TO HEAR HE 04:21.928 --> 04:23.527 align:start WILL MAKE THAT A FOCUS BUT TO DO 04:23.530 --> 04:24.528 align:start THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE 04:24.531 --> 04:27.098 align:start REVENUE. 04:27.101 --> 04:28.132 align:start THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE OFF THEIR 04:28.135 --> 04:29.533 align:start NO CAPS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES 04:29.536 --> 04:33.304 align:start HANG OUT AND START THINKING 04:33.307 --> 04:35.506 align:start ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC CITIZENS 04:35.509 --> 04:39.076 align:start OF INDIANA NEED TO GET AND STAY 04:39.079 --> 04:42.079 align:start HEALTHY AND REALLY TO REWARD 04:42.082 --> 04:42.747 align:start THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SO 04:42.750 --> 04:44.515 align:start EXEMPLARY SINCE THIS CRISIS. 04:44.518 --> 04:47.551 align:start YOUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND 04:47.554 --> 04:49.119 align:start WORKERS IN THE NURSING HOME, 04:49.122 --> 04:51.121 align:start TEACHERS ABOVE AND BEYOND. 04:51.124 --> 04:53.824 align:start ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE 04:53.827 --> 04:57.628 align:start STEPPED UP DESPITE THE RISK, WE 04:57.631 --> 04:59.330 align:start NEED TO HAVE OUR PRIORITIES 04:59.333 --> 05:00.731 align:start REFLECT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. 05:00.734 --> 05:02.333 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, JENNIFER 05:02.336 --> 05:03.634 align:start HOLLOWELL ALLUDED TO THIS WHICH 05:03.637 --> 05:05.303 align:start IS WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT 05:05.306 --> 05:07.938 align:start EXACTLY THE SESSION WILL LOOK 05:07.941 --> 05:10.107 align:start LIKE IN TERMS OF HOW COVID MIGHT 05:10.110 --> 05:12.176 align:start DIRECTLY IMPACT IN TERMS OF 05:12.179 --> 05:14.478 align:start PEOPLE GETTING THE VIRUS AND 05:14.481 --> 05:16.047 align:start HAVING TO QUARANTINE AND DOES 05:16.050 --> 05:16.314 align:start THAT POTENTIALLY LEAD TO A 05:16.317 --> 05:18.182 align:start SHUTDOWN. 05:18.185 --> 05:20.484 align:start DO WE HAVE THOSE ANSWERS FOR HOW 05:20.487 --> 05:22.987 align:start THE HOUSE AND SENATE ARE SORT OF 05:22.990 --> 05:23.587 align:start TRYING TO AVOID SOME OF THOSE 05:23.590 --> 05:26.724 align:start THINGS. 05:26.727 --> 05:27.858 align:start >> I THINK THEY ARE STILL 05:27.861 --> 05:29.760 align:start FINALIZING PROTOCOLS ON TESTING, 05:29.763 --> 05:31.929 align:start WHO THEY HAVE TO LET KNOW IF 05:31.932 --> 05:32.396 align:start THEY'VE HAD EXPOSURE, THAT TYPE 05:32.399 --> 05:34.732 align:start OF THING. 05:34.735 --> 05:35.733 align:start EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH EXPECTS 05:35.736 --> 05:37.668 align:start SOME SORT OF SLOW DOWN OR SHUT 05:37.671 --> 05:39.737 align:start DOWN AT SOME POINT. 05:39.740 --> 05:42.339 align:start TO GET THAT MANY PEOPLE AROUND 05:42.342 --> 05:44.341 align:start EACH OTHER DAY-AFTER-DAY AFTER 05:44.344 --> 05:46.377 align:start DAY AND NOT EXPECT SOME CASES 05:46.380 --> 05:49.347 align:start JUST IS NOT REALISTIC. 05:49.350 --> 05:51.181 align:start AND DEPENDING HOW BAD THE 05:51.184 --> 05:53.183 align:start SHUTDOWNS ARE, MAYBE SWITCHED TO 05:53.186 --> 05:55.686 align:start TAKING SOME TIME OFF AND WORKING 05:55.689 --> 05:59.089 align:start MORE IN MAY AND JUNE INSTEAD. 05:59.092 --> 05:59.490 align:start AND THAT MIGHT ALSO HELP SOME 05:59.493 --> 06:02.827 align:start LOGISTICAL ISSUES. 06:02.830 --> 06:03.861 align:start >> THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE 06:03.864 --> 06:07.464 align:start INFORMATION TO REDISTRICT AND I 06:07.467 --> 06:08.866 align:start WILL REMIND THE AUDIENCE THAT 06:08.869 --> 06:10.901 align:start THE DEADLINE TO ADJOURN THE 06:10.904 --> 06:12.470 align:start SESSION IS APRIL 29 BUT THAT 06:12.473 --> 06:14.538 align:start DEADLINE EXIST IN STATE LAW AND 06:14.541 --> 06:16.507 align:start IS EASY TO CHANGE OR SAY ONE 06:16.510 --> 06:18.375 align:start YEAR IF THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN. 06:18.378 --> 06:20.310 align:start JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR 06:20.313 --> 06:23.113 align:start NO PARTICULAR REASON. 06:23.116 --> 06:24.314 align:start JON SCHWANTES, LAWMAKERS HAVE 06:24.317 --> 06:26.316 align:start ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO 06:26.319 --> 06:27.518 align:start LIMIT THE BILLS THEY ARE 06:27.521 --> 06:28.953 align:start CONSIDERING BECAUSE THE REALITY 06:28.956 --> 06:30.687 align:start OF ALL OF THIS IS IT WILL NOT BE 06:30.690 --> 06:32.890 align:start A NORMAL SESSION IN EVERY SINGLE 06:32.893 --> 06:33.990 align:start WAY AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE 06:33.993 --> 06:35.325 align:start TO GET NEARLY AS MUCH DONE AS I 06:35.328 --> 06:36.827 align:start WOULD LIKE TO. 06:36.830 --> 06:39.129 align:start IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HOOSIERS 06:39.132 --> 06:42.466 align:start SHOULD EXPECT FOR ONE YEAR? 06:42.469 --> 06:45.302 align:start >> THERE WILL BE A CONTRACTION 06:45.305 --> 06:48.072 align:start INCAPACITY AND IT MAY TRANSLATE 06:48.075 --> 06:48.939 align:start INTO A LAMENT MEANING THERE ARE 06:48.942 --> 06:52.142 align:start FEWER BILLS INTRODUCED BY 06:52.145 --> 06:53.710 align:start MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE. 06:53.713 --> 06:55.312 align:start I DO THINK THE VAST MAJORITY 06:55.315 --> 06:58.515 align:start WILL EITHER HAVE A DIRECT FOCUS 06:58.518 --> 06:59.416 align:start ON COVID-19 ISSUES OR TO THE 06:59.419 --> 07:02.486 align:start EXTENT SOMEBODY CAN TAKE AN 07:02.489 --> 07:04.154 align:start ISSUE AND ARGUE IN SOME 07:04.157 --> 07:07.525 align:start TANGENTIAL FASHION THIS WILL 07:07.528 --> 07:10.127 align:start BENEFIT THE STATE IF AND WHEN 07:10.130 --> 07:11.728 align:start THE NEXT PANDEMIC ROLES AROUND, 07:11.731 --> 07:15.032 align:start WE WILL SEE THAT. 07:15.035 --> 07:16.333 align:start I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED FOR 07:16.336 --> 07:18.435 align:start INSTANCE, DURING THE BUDGET 07:18.438 --> 07:19.436 align:start PROCEEDINGS TO SEE ANY AND ALL 07:19.439 --> 07:21.705 align:start THE UNIVERSITIES CERTAINLY THE 07:21.708 --> 07:24.208 align:start RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND STATES 07:24.211 --> 07:26.844 align:start MAKE A PITCH FOR ANY PLANS 07:26.847 --> 07:28.912 align:start THEY'VE HAD STORED IN THE CLOSET 07:28.915 --> 07:30.514 align:start FOR ADDITIONAL SCIENTIFIC 07:30.517 --> 07:32.983 align:start RESEARCH, VACCINATION RESEARCH, 07:32.986 --> 07:33.384 align:start CUTTING EDGE IN TERMS OF THOSE 07:33.387 --> 07:35.185 align:start TYPES OF THINGS. 07:35.188 --> 07:37.488 align:start IF THERE WOULD BE AN APPETITE IN 07:37.491 --> 07:39.890 align:start THE CAPITAL BUDGET OR OPERATING 07:39.893 --> 07:40.290 align:start FOR EXPANSION IT WOULD PROBABLY 07:40.293 --> 07:42.326 align:start HAPPEN. 07:42.329 --> 07:44.128 align:start LASTLY, I'M NOT SURE THEY WOULD 07:44.131 --> 07:46.530 align:start EVEN NEED TO CHANGE THE LAW AND 07:46.533 --> 07:48.466 align:start THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT, BUT 07:48.469 --> 07:49.733 align:start WITHOUT A STATE BUDGET THE 07:49.736 --> 07:51.502 align:start SIMPLEST SOLUTION IS FOR THE 07:51.505 --> 07:53.804 align:start GOVERNOR TO CALL THEM BACK INTO 07:53.807 --> 07:55.071 align:start SESSION I WOULD ASSUME SINCE THE 07:55.074 --> 07:56.607 align:start MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS AND 07:56.610 --> 07:59.510 align:start HOUSE AND SENATE AND A 07:59.513 --> 08:00.577 align:start REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, THEY COULD 08:00.580 --> 08:02.312 align:start WORK TOGETHER WITHOUT HAVING TO 08:02.315 --> 08:03.948 align:start ENACT LEGISLATION TO CHANGE THE 08:03.951 --> 08:05.950 align:start SCHEDULE AND THE MANNER IN WHICH 08:05.953 --> 08:07.718 align:start SPECIAL SESSIONS ARE CALLED. 08:07.721 --> 08:11.788 align:start >> SPEAKING OF THE GOVERNOR AND 08:11.791 --> 08:12.389 align:start THE MAJORITIES WORKING TO GATHER 08:12.392 --> 08:13.023 align:start ... 08:13.026 --> 08:13.691 align:start >>>A MAJORITY OF HOOSIERS SAY 08:13.694 --> 08:14.558 align:start THE GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY POWERS 08:14.561 --> 08:15.158 align:start SHOULD BE MORE LIMITED - THAT'S 08:15.161 --> 08:15.993 align:start ACCORDING TO THE LATEST EDITION 08:15.996 --> 08:17.160 align:start OF THE BALL STATE HOOSIER 08:17.163 --> 08:18.228 align:start SURVEY. 08:18.231 --> 08:19.497 align:start THE LATEST POLL OF 600 HOOSIERS 08:19.500 --> 08:20.631 align:start SHOWS THAT 60 PERCENT OF 08:20.634 --> 08:22.366 align:start RESPONDENTS SUPPORT CHANGING 08:22.369 --> 08:23.434 align:start INDIANA LAW TO REQUIRE THE 08:23.437 --> 08:24.869 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO APPROVE ANY 08:24.872 --> 08:28.071 align:start EXTENSION OF A GOVERNOR'S 08:28.074 --> 08:29.139 align:start EMERGENCY ORDER BEYOND 30 DAYS. 08:29.142 --> 08:31.108 align:start THAT INCLUDES 56 PERCENT OF 08:31.111 --> 08:32.509 align:start DEMOCRATS AND 63 PERCENT OF 08:32.512 --> 08:33.510 align:start REPUBLICANS IN THE SURVEY. 08:33.513 --> 08:34.912 align:start THE SURVEY RESULTS COME AHEAD OF 08:34.915 --> 08:36.580 align:start A LIKELY DEBATE IN THE 2021 08:36.583 --> 08:37.881 align:start SESSION OVER MANY REPUBLICAN 08:37.884 --> 08:39.850 align:start LAWMAKERS' DESIRE TO CURTAIL THE 08:39.853 --> 08:41.752 align:start GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY POWERS. 08:41.755 --> 08:43.153 align:start BALL STATE POLITICAL SCIENTIST 08:43.156 --> 08:44.555 align:start CHARLES TAYLOR SAYS IT WILL BE A 08:44.558 --> 08:46.790 align:start TEST OF GOVERNOR ERIC HOLCOMB'S 08:46.793 --> 08:48.359 align:start LEADERSHIP AND SWAY OVER THE 08:48.362 --> 08:50.327 align:start GOP-CONTROLLED GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 08:50.330 --> 08:52.496 align:start >>CHARLES TAYLOR: TO TRY AND 08:52.499 --> 08:55.232 align:start TALK THEM DOWN FROM ANY 08:55.235 --> 08:57.401 align:start PROPOSALS THAT WOULD SEVERELY 08:57.404 --> 08:59.203 align:start LIMIT FUTURE GOVERNORS OR LIMIT 08:59.206 --> 09:00.037 align:start HIM IN HIS SECOND TERM. 09:00.040 --> 09:01.372 align:start >>BRANDON: LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 09:01.375 --> 09:07.678 align:start HAVE ALREADY SAID THEY INTEND TO 09:07.681 --> 09:11.815 align:start AT LEAST DEBATE THE ISSUE. 09:11.818 --> 09:13.884 align:start AND ALIGNING, WE ARE 9-10 09:13.887 --> 09:17.254 align:start MONTHS WITH THE GOVERNOR 09:17.257 --> 09:18.222 align:start ESTABLISHING THIS PUBLIC HEALTH 09:18.225 --> 09:18.922 align:start EMERGENCY ISSUING EXECUTIVE 09:18.925 --> 09:22.626 align:start ORDER AFTER EXECUTIVE ORDER TO 09:22.629 --> 09:23.627 align:start CONFRONT IT WITH NO LITERAL 09:23.630 --> 09:26.530 align:start INPUT FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 09:26.533 --> 09:28.098 align:start AT THE GOVERNOR HAS SAID HE'S 09:28.101 --> 09:29.500 align:start TALKED TO LEGISLATIVE LEADERS SO 09:29.503 --> 09:32.069 align:start SHOULD THEY TIGHTEN THEIR 09:32.072 --> 09:36.506 align:start CONTROL OR ASSERT MORE AUTHORITY 09:36.509 --> 09:37.307 align:start OVER THESE -- THE GOVERNOR. 09:37.310 --> 09:43.113 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW IF I TAKE THE 09:43.116 --> 09:45.148 align:start GOVERNOR AT HIS WORD BUT I HAVE 09:45.151 --> 09:46.450 align:start NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE 09:46.453 --> 09:48.251 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHILE THIS WAS 09:48.254 --> 09:50.721 align:start GOING ON AND I DON'T KNOW HOW 09:50.724 --> 09:52.589 align:start REALISTIC IT IS TO SET AN 09:52.592 --> 09:53.724 align:start ARBITRARY 30 DAY DEADLINE. 09:53.727 --> 09:55.325 align:start WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEVERE 09:55.328 --> 09:57.595 align:start PANDEMIC AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU 09:57.598 --> 10:01.799 align:start CAN'T GET A QUORUM OR YOU HAVE 10:01.802 --> 10:03.900 align:start LEGISLATORS WHO ARE EITHER 10:03.903 --> 10:05.936 align:start WORRIED ABOUT CONTRACTING 10:05.939 --> 10:09.640 align:start WHATEVER THE NEXT PANDEMIC IS OR 10:09.643 --> 10:10.674 align:start ARE ALREADY UNDER THE WEATHER? 10:10.677 --> 10:12.676 align:start WHAT HAPPENS THEN? 10:12.679 --> 10:15.345 align:start THE EMERGENCY ORDER JUST EXPIRES 10:15.348 --> 10:16.480 align:start EVEN AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED IT 10:16.483 --> 10:18.682 align:start THE MOST. 10:18.685 --> 10:20.684 align:start WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. 10:20.687 --> 10:23.220 align:start GOV. ERIC HOLCOMB DID NOT MAKE 10:23.223 --> 10:24.154 align:start HIS RIGHT WING HAPPY BECAUSE HE 10:24.157 --> 10:26.290 align:start PRESUMABLY DID SO MUCH AND 10:26.293 --> 10:27.524 align:start DIDN'T MAKE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE 10:27.527 --> 10:30.127 align:start WORRIED ABOUT THE HEALTH AND 10:30.130 --> 10:31.728 align:start SAFETY OF HOOSIERS BECAUSE HE 10:31.731 --> 10:33.330 align:start DID TOO LITTLE. 10:33.333 --> 10:34.565 align:start I THINK YOU CHALK THAT UP. 10:34.568 --> 10:39.503 align:start THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN EVERY YEAR 10:39.506 --> 10:40.904 align:start BUT IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND A 10:40.907 --> 10:43.507 align:start GOVERNOR, WHEN YOU CAN'T PREDICT 10:43.510 --> 10:46.477 align:start WHAT THE NEXT CRISIS IS IS NOT 10:46.480 --> 10:48.111 align:start VERY GOOD PUBLIC POLICY. 10:48.114 --> 10:50.247 align:start >> JENNIFER IS HOLCOMB HEADED 10:50.250 --> 10:53.383 align:start FOR A FIGHT OVER THIS ISSUE? 10:53.386 --> 10:54.184 align:start >> I UNDERSTAND THERE HAVE BEEN 10:54.187 --> 10:56.186 align:start DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST 10:56.189 --> 10:57.788 align:start SEVERAL MONTHS AND I THINK THERE 10:57.791 --> 11:01.925 align:start ARE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE RAISED 11:01.928 --> 11:03.227 align:start CONCENS, BUT ULTIMATELY AS ANN 11:03.230 --> 11:05.696 align:start AND OTHERS HAVE INDICATED, THE 11:05.699 --> 11:07.197 align:start GOVERNOR HAS TO BE ABLE TO 11:07.200 --> 11:09.366 align:start OPERATE AND RUN THE STATE AND 11:09.369 --> 11:13.203 align:start IT'S NOT ALWAYS FEASIBLE OR 11:13.206 --> 11:15.372 align:start ADVISABLE TO BRING 150 11:15.375 --> 11:16.674 align:start LEGISLATORS TO INDIANAPOLIS 11:16.677 --> 11:19.142 align:start DURING A PANDEMIC. 11:19.145 --> 11:19.677 align:start SO I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME 11:19.680 --> 11:24.414 align:start DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BUT I 11:24.417 --> 11:26.249 align:start DON'T EXPECT IT WILL BE A 11:26.252 --> 11:27.150 align:start CONTENTIOUS ISSUE. 11:27.153 --> 11:29.319 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, WOULD YOU 11:29.322 --> 11:31.722 align:start PREDICT WE WOULD SEE CHANGES TO 11:31.725 --> 11:32.956 align:start THE GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY POWER 11:32.959 --> 11:34.158 align:start AUTHORITIES? 11:34.161 --> 11:35.792 align:start >> AT THE EDGES WE MIGHT SEE 11:35.795 --> 11:39.830 align:start SOME CHANGES AND IT MIGHT BE 11:39.833 --> 11:42.899 align:start SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL LAYER OF 11:42.902 --> 11:45.269 align:start REVIEW BY THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH 11:45.272 --> 11:47.904 align:start WHETHER -- I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD 11:47.907 --> 11:49.273 align:start NECESSARILY REQUIRE A QUORUM FOR 11:49.276 --> 11:52.542 align:start THE REASONS ANN MENTIONED. 11:52.545 --> 11:54.745 align:start HOW DO YOU GET 150 PEOPLE OR 2/3 11:54.748 --> 11:56.346 align:start OF THOSE PEOPLE TO INDIANAPOLIS 11:56.349 --> 11:59.550 align:start TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. 11:59.553 --> 12:01.318 align:start MAYBE SOME SORT OF LEADERSHIP 12:01.321 --> 12:04.721 align:start REVIEW OR SOME OTHER GROUP THAT 12:04.724 --> 12:07.391 align:start MIGHT BE EASIER TO CONVENE. 12:07.394 --> 12:11.795 align:start BUT I DOUBT WE WILL GO BACK TO 12:11.798 --> 12:13.864 align:start WHAT WE HAD FOR INSTANCE, THIS 12:13.867 --> 12:15.499 align:start ALL CAME OUT OF HURRICANE 12:15.502 --> 12:17.300 align:start KATRINA AND THE AFTERMATH ONE 12:17.303 --> 12:19.436 align:start STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WERE 12:19.439 --> 12:20.003 align:start SAYING IF NOT A HURRICANE I 12:20.006 --> 12:23.474 align:start DOUBT A HURRICANE WILL HIT 12:23.477 --> 12:25.108 align:start INDIANA, BUT IF SOME SIMILAR 12:25.111 --> 12:26.076 align:start DISASTER WITH THAT SIGNIFICANT 12:26.079 --> 12:27.944 align:start IMPACT, WHAT WOULD WE DO SO I 12:27.947 --> 12:30.313 align:start DON'T THINK WE WILL GO BACK TO 12:30.316 --> 12:31.281 align:start BEFORE THAT WHEN THERE WAS 12:31.284 --> 12:34.084 align:start NOTHING ON THE BOOKS. 12:34.087 --> 12:35.919 align:start JUST SOME WORK AT THE MARGINS. 12:35.922 --> 12:36.753 align:start >> NIKI KELLY IN TERMS OF THE 12:36.756 --> 12:39.156 align:start CHALLENGES OF SOMETHING 12:39.159 --> 12:40.524 align:start HAPPENING TO THAT EMERGENCY 12:40.527 --> 12:41.558 align:start AUTHORITY, WE BOTH TALKED TO 12:41.561 --> 12:43.327 align:start REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS AND THERE'S 12:43.330 --> 12:44.928 align:start NOT A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO 12:44.931 --> 12:47.998 align:start DON'T LIKE ALL THE POWER THAT 12:48.001 --> 12:49.466 align:start ERIC HOLCOMB HAS HAD FOR THE 12:49.469 --> 12:50.901 align:start LAST TEN MONTHS. 12:50.904 --> 12:54.671 align:start >> VIRTUALLY EVERY GOP LAWMAKER 12:54.674 --> 12:55.272 align:start I TALKED TO WANTS SOME SORT OF 12:55.275 --> 12:56.506 align:start DISCUSSION. 12:56.509 --> 12:59.509 align:start THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN 12:59.512 --> 13:01.111 align:start A 30 DAY OR NOTHING OR NINE 13:01.114 --> 13:02.913 align:start MONTHS OR TEN MONTHS AND KEEP 13:02.916 --> 13:04.648 align:start REVIEWING IT AND SOME THINGS 13:04.651 --> 13:06.650 align:start I'VE HEARD ARE BASICALLY SAYING 13:06.653 --> 13:08.685 align:start MAYBE DO IT FOR THREE MONTHS AND 13:08.688 --> 13:09.319 align:start THEN THE LEGISLATURE WOULD HAVE 13:09.322 --> 13:11.555 align:start TO ACT. 13:11.558 --> 13:13.223 align:start SO TO ANN'S POINT FROM EARLIER, 13:13.226 --> 13:18.262 align:start IF THEY COULDN'T GET THERE OR 13:18.265 --> 13:20.264 align:start WHATEVER IT WOULD REQUIRE LIKE A 13:20.267 --> 13:23.567 align:start PROACTIVE VOTE TO STOP IT. 13:23.570 --> 13:24.234 align:start SO THAT IS ONE OPTION ON THE 13:24.237 --> 13:25.135 align:start TABLE. 13:25.138 --> 13:26.203 align:start >>>2021 IS A REDISTRICTING YEAR, 13:26.206 --> 13:27.037 align:start AND INDIANA VOTER ADVOCACY 13:27.040 --> 13:28.071 align:start GROUPS ARE CREATING WHAT THEY'RE 13:28.074 --> 13:30.006 align:start CALLING A "SHADOW" REDISTRICTING 13:30.009 --> 13:31.008 align:start COMMISSION TO GIVE HOOSIERS AN 13:31.011 --> 13:32.008 align:start INDEPENDENT CONTRAST WHEN 13:32.011 --> 13:35.579 align:start LAWMAKERS REDRAW LEGISLATIVE 13:35.582 --> 13:37.414 align:start DISTRICT LINES. 13:37.417 --> 13:37.948 align:start GROUPS LIKE COMMON CAUSE INDIANA 13:37.951 --> 13:39.482 align:start HAVE LONG CALLED FOR AN 13:39.485 --> 13:40.217 align:start INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING 13:40.220 --> 13:41.685 align:start COMMISSION TO DRAW INDIANA'S 13:41.688 --> 13:43.020 align:start LEGISLATIVE MAPS. 13:43.023 --> 13:44.454 align:start TAKING IT OUT OF THE HANDS OF 13:44.457 --> 13:45.488 align:start LAWMAKERS, THEY SAY, WILL RESULT 13:45.491 --> 13:47.090 align:start IN FAIRER, MORE COMPETITIVE 13:47.093 --> 13:48.692 align:start DISTRICTS. 13:48.695 --> 13:50.093 align:start SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM RODRIC 13:50.096 --> 13:51.428 align:start BRAY - WHOSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS 13:51.431 --> 13:52.496 align:start HAS LONG OPPOSED SUCH A 13:52.499 --> 13:53.897 align:start COMMISSION - HAS SAID A TRULY 13:53.900 --> 13:55.165 align:start INDEPENDENT BODY WOULD BE 13:55.168 --> 13:56.834 align:start DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO 13:56.837 --> 13:58.235 align:start PUT TOGETHER. 13:58.238 --> 13:59.169 align:start >>SEN. RODRIC BRAY: YOU CAN SAY 13:59.172 --> 14:00.504 align:start IT'S A NONPARTISAN BOARD THAT 14:00.507 --> 14:02.506 align:start YOU WOULD APPOINT. 14:02.509 --> 14:03.640 align:start BUT EVERYBODY COMES TO THE POLL 14:03.643 --> 14:05.742 align:start OR ANY POSITION WITH SOME 14:05.745 --> 14:07.143 align:start POLITICAL INTEREST. 14:07.146 --> 14:08.378 align:start AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO 14:08.381 --> 14:10.848 align:start APPOINT THAT NONPARTISAN PERSON 14:10.851 --> 14:12.849 align:start ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE AN 14:12.852 --> 14:13.550 align:start INTEREST IN WHAT THAT PERSON'S 14:13.553 --> 14:15.085 align:start PHILOSOPHY IS EITHER, WHETHER 14:15.088 --> 14:15.819 align:start IT'S PUBLICLY KNOWN OR NOT. 14:15.822 --> 14:17.587 align:start >>BRANDON: BUT COMMON CAUSE 14:17.590 --> 14:19.156 align:start INDIANA DIRECTOR JULIA VAUGHN 14:19.159 --> 14:19.756 align:start SAID THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS 14:19.759 --> 14:20.757 align:start SHADOW COMMISSION HOPES TO 14:20.760 --> 14:22.626 align:start DISPEL. 14:22.629 --> 14:23.560 align:start SHE SAYS THE GROUP WILL INCLUDE 14:23.563 --> 14:24.594 align:start REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS AND 14:24.597 --> 14:26.162 align:start PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELONG TO 14:26.165 --> 14:27.330 align:start EITHER PARTY. 14:27.333 --> 14:28.465 align:start THE SHADOW COMMISSION HAS NO 14:28.468 --> 14:30.133 align:start ACTUAL POWER. 14:30.136 --> 14:31.234 align:start IT SERVES AS A PUBLIC 14:31.237 --> 14:39.276 align:start ALTERNATIVE TO WHATEVER MAPS 14:39.279 --> 14:40.143 align:start LAWMAKERS DRAW IN 2021. 14:40.146 --> 14:42.446 align:start >> JENNIFER ALL COME TO YOU ON 14:42.449 --> 14:43.179 align:start THIS QUESTION DO YOU THINK THIS 14:43.182 --> 14:45.582 align:start SHADOW COMMISSION THEY ARE 14:45.585 --> 14:46.883 align:start CALLING IT WILL HAVE ANY 14:46.886 --> 14:51.988 align:start PRACTICAL EFFECT ON THE 14:51.991 --> 14:53.490 align:start REDISTRICTING PROCESS THIS YEAR? 14:53.493 --> 14:54.892 align:start >> I DON'T THINK -- YOU KNOW I 14:54.895 --> 15:01.064 align:start DON'T THINK IT WILL. 15:01.067 --> 15:01.864 align:start I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH PRO TEM 15:01.867 --> 15:06.503 align:start SENATOR BRADY. 15:06.506 --> 15:07.204 align:start IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A 15:07.207 --> 15:10.407 align:start GROUP WITHOUT BIAS. 15:10.410 --> 15:13.810 align:start EVERYONE IS GOING TO BRING BIAS 15:13.813 --> 15:16.046 align:start TO THE SITUATION AND WHETHER 15:16.049 --> 15:19.582 align:start IT'S DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS 15:19.585 --> 15:20.650 align:start NONPROFITS ET CETERA THEY HAVE 15:20.653 --> 15:22.085 align:start POLITICAL LEANINGS AND FRANKLY, 15:22.088 --> 15:24.721 align:start I THINK IT IS BETTER TO LEAVE 15:24.724 --> 15:26.089 align:start THE PROCESS UP TO PEOPLE WHO 15:26.092 --> 15:27.023 align:start REPRESENT THE VOTERS OF THE 15:27.026 --> 15:29.459 align:start STATE. 15:29.462 --> 15:31.662 align:start THEY HAVE BOTH THE SPEAKER AND 15:31.665 --> 15:34.231 align:start SENATOR PRO TEM HAVE SAID THAT 15:34.234 --> 15:36.867 align:start THEY WILL HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS 15:36.870 --> 15:38.902 align:start AND IT WILL BE A TRANSPARENT 15:38.905 --> 15:41.271 align:start PROCESS AND SO THE PUBLIC WILL 15:41.274 --> 15:42.706 align:start HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN 15:42.709 --> 15:45.742 align:start AND SHAPE THAT PROCESS. 15:45.745 --> 15:47.978 align:start BUT I BELIEVE IT IS AS IT SHOULD 15:47.981 --> 15:50.246 align:start BE, A DECISION MADE BY 15:50.249 --> 15:50.547 align:start LEGISLATORS WHO ARE ELECTED BY 15:50.550 --> 15:51.915 align:start VOTERS. 15:51.918 --> 15:54.084 align:start >> ANN DELANEY WILL THIS 15:54.087 --> 15:54.985 align:start COMMISSION HAVE ANY PRACTICAL 15:54.988 --> 15:58.221 align:start EFFECT? 15:58.224 --> 16:00.223 align:start >> I THINK IT MIGHT SHAME THE 16:00.226 --> 16:00.590 align:start REPUBLICANS INTO DOING SOMETHING 16:00.593 --> 16:03.126 align:start A LITTLE MORE FAIR. 16:03.129 --> 16:05.962 align:start WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE 16:05.965 --> 16:07.130 align:start DISTRICTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE 16:07.133 --> 16:08.131 align:start A THEOLOGIAN TO JUSTIFY THE 16:08.134 --> 16:09.099 align:start PARAMETERS OF THE DISTRICTS THAT 16:09.102 --> 16:11.935 align:start HAVE BEEN DRAWN. 16:11.938 --> 16:14.270 align:start I FIND IT REALLY IRONIC WHEN THE 16:14.273 --> 16:15.105 align:start SENATOR SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE A 16:15.108 --> 16:17.840 align:start NONPARTISAN COMMISSION. 16:17.843 --> 16:20.110 align:start YOU CAN HAVE NONPARTISAN FACTS 16:20.113 --> 16:21.311 align:start AND STATISTICS AND ALL IN AREAS 16:21.314 --> 16:24.647 align:start OF INTEREST AND BOUNDARIES AND 16:24.650 --> 16:25.282 align:start THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE. 16:25.285 --> 16:29.319 align:start INSTEAD OF HAVING A NONPARTISAN 16:29.322 --> 16:30.921 align:start BOARD, HE WANTS TO HAVE THE MOST 16:30.924 --> 16:31.721 align:start PARTISAN GROUP MAKE THE 16:31.724 --> 16:34.657 align:start DECISION. 16:34.660 --> 16:35.192 align:start THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOLDING 16:35.195 --> 16:36.526 align:start THOSE PIECES AND YOU'D THINK 16:36.529 --> 16:38.528 align:start THEY DON'T WANT TO PROTECT THEM. 16:38.531 --> 16:39.930 align:start THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY 16:39.933 --> 16:41.131 align:start SHOULD CHOOSE THEIR VOTERS 16:41.134 --> 16:43.033 align:start RATHER THAN HAVE VOTERS CHOOSE 16:43.036 --> 16:46.669 align:start THEM AND THEY'VE TAKEN IT TO AN 16:46.672 --> 16:47.938 align:start ART FORM WITH COMPUTERS SO IT'S 16:47.941 --> 16:50.507 align:start THE HEIGHT OF HYPOCRISY FOR HIM 16:50.510 --> 16:52.509 align:start TO SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE 16:52.512 --> 16:54.110 align:start NONPARTISANSHIP WHEN HE AND HIS 16:54.113 --> 16:56.713 align:start CAUCUS AND THE CAUCUS IN THE 16:56.716 --> 16:58.915 align:start HOUSE ARE THE MOST PARTISAN OF 16:58.918 --> 17:00.751 align:start ALL. 17:00.754 --> 17:01.518 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, I ASKED 17:01.521 --> 17:03.920 align:start ORIGINALLY ABOUT PRACTICAL 17:03.923 --> 17:05.722 align:start EFFECT AND I WANT TO ASK THAT 17:05.725 --> 17:07.924 align:start AGAIN, BUT NOT IN THE SHORT-TERM 17:07.927 --> 17:09.158 align:start AND LONG-TERM, VOTER ADVOCACY 17:09.161 --> 17:10.927 align:start GROUPS CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR 17:10.930 --> 17:13.029 align:start AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION TO 17:13.032 --> 17:15.065 align:start DRAW LINES INTO THE NEXT DECADE 17:15.068 --> 17:16.332 align:start BEFORE WE DRAW DISTRICT LINES 17:16.335 --> 17:18.835 align:start AGAIN TEN YEARS FROM NOW. 17:18.838 --> 17:21.304 align:start WILL HAVING THIS GROUP DESIGN A 17:21.307 --> 17:23.139 align:start MAP AND BE ABLE TO CONTRAST THAT 17:23.142 --> 17:25.242 align:start WITH WHATEVER LAWMAKERS COME UP 17:25.245 --> 17:26.676 align:start WITH INTO THE FUTURE, WILL THAT 17:26.679 --> 17:30.747 align:start GIVE THEM MORE HOPE THAT CHANGE 17:30.750 --> 17:32.715 align:start COMES IN THE FUTURE? 17:32.718 --> 17:35.185 align:start >> MAYBE. 17:35.188 --> 17:37.720 align:start I DOUBT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, 17:37.723 --> 17:39.990 align:start IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME. 17:39.993 --> 17:41.525 align:start THE MAPS THE SUPER MAJORITY WANT 17:41.528 --> 17:43.660 align:start TO PRODUCE WILL IN THE END BE 17:43.663 --> 17:45.128 align:start THE MAPS THE REPUBLICAN SUPER 17:45.131 --> 17:47.531 align:start MAJORITIES WANT TO PRODUCE. 17:47.534 --> 17:51.334 align:start CLEARLY AS WE SEE FEWER AND 17:51.337 --> 17:52.736 align:start FEWER CONTESTED RACES, WHILE WE 17:52.739 --> 17:53.903 align:start SEE VOTER TURNOUT SUFFERING 17:53.906 --> 17:56.239 align:start ACCORDINGLY WITH THIS PAST 17:56.242 --> 17:57.307 align:start ELECTION BEING A BIT OF AN 17:57.310 --> 17:58.141 align:start EXCEPTION BECAUSE PERS BECAUSE 17:58.144 --> 18:00.477 align:start PRESIDENTIAL CONTESTS. 18:00.480 --> 18:05.448 align:start I THINK WE GET TO A POINT WHERE 18:05.451 --> 18:06.683 align:start PEOPLE SEE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 18:06.686 --> 18:08.918 align:start RACES IN OUR LEGISLATIVE 18:08.921 --> 18:10.520 align:start DISTRICT SO WE CAN VOTE FOR IT. 18:10.523 --> 18:11.221 align:start CLEARLY THE CURRENT SYSTEM 18:11.224 --> 18:13.256 align:start DISCOURAGES THAT. 18:13.259 --> 18:15.391 align:start IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE POLITICS 18:15.394 --> 18:16.426 align:start OUT OF IT YOU COULD SAY WITH THE 18:16.429 --> 18:20.130 align:start EMERGENCE OF ARTIFICIAL 18:20.133 --> 18:21.898 align:start INTELLIGENCE YOU COULD -- I'M 18:21.901 --> 18:23.333 align:start ONLY BEING HALF FACETIOUS. 18:23.336 --> 18:25.034 align:start YOU COULD HAVE AN ALGORITHM THAT 18:25.037 --> 18:27.337 align:start WOULD BE A STARTING POINT. 18:27.340 --> 18:28.171 align:start OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE WILL SAY 18:28.174 --> 18:30.106 align:start HUMANS WRITE THE ALGORITHMS AND 18:30.109 --> 18:35.011 align:start THAT'S TRUE, BUT IF YOU WANTED 18:35.014 --> 18:36.613 align:start TO HAVE A STARTING POINT WHERE 18:36.616 --> 18:37.280 align:start IT'S BLINDLY POPULATION CENTERS 18:37.283 --> 18:40.951 align:start AND THE NOTION OF HAVING 18:40.954 --> 18:43.119 align:start CONTIGUOUS AREAS AND THOSE TYPES 18:43.122 --> 18:44.587 align:start OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A 18:44.590 --> 18:46.455 align:start STARTING POINT. 18:46.458 --> 18:47.057 align:start >> THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. 18:47.060 --> 18:47.957 align:start >>>LAWMAKERS WILL WRITE A NEW, 18:47.960 --> 18:49.493 align:start TWO-YEAR STATE BUDGET THIS 18:49.496 --> 18:51.461 align:start SESSION - AND IT'S NOT NEARLY AS 18:51.464 --> 18:52.428 align:start ROSY AS ANYONE WOULD HAVE HOPED. 18:52.431 --> 18:54.397 align:start AS WE TAPE THIS, WE DON'T KNOW 18:54.400 --> 18:55.198 align:start WHAT THE LATEST REVENUE FORECAST 18:55.201 --> 18:56.366 align:start LOOKS LIKE...BUT IT'S LIKELY 18:56.369 --> 18:58.067 align:start LEGISLATORS WILL HAVE TO MAKE 18:58.070 --> 18:58.802 align:start PLENTY OF TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT 18:58.805 --> 18:59.936 align:start SPENDING THE NEXT COUPLE OF 18:59.939 --> 19:04.340 align:start YEARS AS THE PANDEMIC HAS 19:04.343 --> 19:06.343 align:start WREAKED HAVOC ON STATE FINANCES. 19:06.346 --> 19:07.677 align:start GOVERNOR HOLCOMB WAS ABLE TO 19:07.680 --> 19:08.311 align:start ENSURE K-12 SCHOOLS GOT THEIR 19:08.314 --> 19:10.580 align:start FULL FUNDING FOR THE CURRENT 19:10.583 --> 19:12.782 align:start BUDGET YEAR. 19:12.785 --> 19:14.050 align:start HOWEVER...NIKI KELLY, WILL 19:14.053 --> 19:17.454 align:start SCHOOLS BE SPARED THE KNIFE IN 19:17.457 --> 19:21.157 align:start THE UPCOMING BUDGET? 19:21.160 --> 19:22.758 align:start WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY? 19:22.761 --> 19:26.096 align:start >> IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD 19:26.099 --> 19:27.897 align:start TO AVOID THAT. 19:27.900 --> 19:31.668 align:start MAYBE EVEN HOPING FOR STATUS QUO 19:31.671 --> 19:34.304 align:start BUDGET WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION. 19:34.307 --> 19:36.173 align:start OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE 19:36.176 --> 19:37.807 align:start $7 MILLION A YEAR SPENT ON K-12 19:37.810 --> 19:41.144 align:start A 1 PERCENT INCREASE AS A AMOUNT 19:41.147 --> 19:42.912 align:start OF MONEY TO FIND NEW REVENUE OR 19:42.915 --> 19:44.714 align:start TAKE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE. 19:44.717 --> 19:46.449 align:start >> TO NIKI'S POINT IS A STATUS 19:46.452 --> 19:48.117 align:start QUO BUDGET GETTING THE SAME 19:48.120 --> 19:49.186 align:start MONEY THEY GOT IN THE LAST STATE 19:49.189 --> 19:53.789 align:start BUDGET IS THAT REALLY THE BEST 19:53.792 --> 19:53.924 align:start CASE SCENARIO FOR A LOT OF FO 19:53.927 --> 19:55.725 align:start FOLKS? 19:55.728 --> 19:57.727 align:start >> REALISTICALLY IT PROBABLY 19:57.730 --> 20:00.196 align:start WOULD BE ABOUT AS GOOD AS WE 20:00.199 --> 20:01.731 align:start MIGHT EXPECT WHICH IS TOUGH 20:01.734 --> 20:04.367 align:start BECAUSE ONE COULD ARGUE IN THE 20:04.370 --> 20:07.270 align:start WAKE OF THE PANDEMIC THERE NEVER 20:07.273 --> 20:10.306 align:start HAS BEEN A GREATER NEED FOR 20:10.309 --> 20:13.076 align:start EDUCATION FUNDING BECAUSE JUST 20:13.079 --> 20:15.545 align:start THE FATE OF THE PANEMIC WE HAVE 20:15.548 --> 20:18.114 align:start KIDS WHO REALLY HAVE BEEN DEALT 20:18.117 --> 20:18.682 align:start A SIGNIFICANT BLOW IN THEIR 20:18.685 --> 20:21.284 align:start FUNDAMENTAL SKILL DEVELOPMENT 20:21.287 --> 20:23.352 align:start ESPECIALLY IN THE PRIMARY GRADES 20:23.355 --> 20:23.586 align:start WITH MATH AND BASIC ENGLISH AND 20:23.589 --> 20:27.090 align:start GRAMMAR. 20:27.093 --> 20:28.825 align:start YOU WOULD ARGUE IF EVER THERE 20:28.828 --> 20:30.927 align:start WAS A TIME TO BUMP IT UP THIS 20:30.930 --> 20:32.529 align:start WOULD BE IT BUT THAT WISH AND 20:32.532 --> 20:35.765 align:start THE REALITY OF TIGHT BUDGETS 20:35.768 --> 20:36.465 align:start WILL UNDOUBTEDLY COLLIDE. 20:36.468 --> 20:38.501 align:start >> THAT'S THE CASE WITH A LOT OF 20:38.504 --> 20:39.902 align:start ISSUES WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY 20:39.905 --> 20:41.238 align:start FOCUSED ON LOOKING FOR BROADBAND 20:41.241 --> 20:43.540 align:start AND WHERE TO FIND THE MONEY FOR 20:43.543 --> 20:43.840 align:start THAT WHEN YOU NEED IT MORE THAN 20:43.843 --> 20:46.509 align:start EVER. 20:46.512 --> 20:49.145 align:start JENNIFER HOLLOWELL AS WE LOOK 20:49.148 --> 20:49.912 align:start AHEAD TO THE STATE BUDGET HOW 20:49.915 --> 20:51.948 align:start MUCH WILL END UP BEING 20:51.951 --> 20:54.117 align:start DETERMINED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE 20:54.120 --> 20:55.852 align:start GET MORE FEDERAL RELIEF AND WHEN 20:55.855 --> 20:59.856 align:start I SAY FEDERAL RELIEF DIRECTLY TO 20:59.859 --> 21:01.591 align:start STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 21:01.594 --> 21:04.494 align:start >> THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR 21:04.497 --> 21:07.397 align:start AND CERTAINLY WHERE SHOULD THAT 21:07.400 --> 21:11.501 align:start THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON COULD 21:11.504 --> 21:11.935 align:start COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD 21:11.938 --> 21:12.268 align:start HELP STATE AND LOCAL 21:12.271 --> 21:13.470 align:start COMMUNITIES. 21:13.473 --> 21:15.538 align:start WE CLEARLY NEED MORE COVID 21:15.541 --> 21:16.005 align:start RELIEF FUNDING AND THE SOONER 21:16.008 --> 21:22.111 align:start THE BETTER. 21:22.114 --> 21:24.681 align:start I WILL SAY KEEP IN MIND GOV. 21:24.684 --> 21:26.683 align:start ERIC HOLCOMB AND THE REPUBLICAN 21:26.686 --> 21:28.718 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY INCREASE THE 21:28.721 --> 21:31.855 align:start K-12 EDUCATION BUDGET IN THE 21:31.858 --> 21:34.824 align:start LAST CYCLE BY $760 MILLION WHICH 21:34.827 --> 21:36.459 align:start IS GREAT AND CERTAINLY A GOOD 21:36.462 --> 21:38.361 align:start PLACE TO START. 21:38.364 --> 21:40.830 align:start THE GOVERNOR HAS STATED THAT 21:40.833 --> 21:44.367 align:start EDUCATION IS A PRIORITY, THE 21:44.370 --> 21:45.702 align:start HOUSE SPEAKER AS AS WELL AS THE 21:45.705 --> 21:48.104 align:start SENATOR PRO TEM SO IT'S GOING TO 21:48.107 --> 21:49.105 align:start BE A TOP PRIORITY BUT WE ARE 21:49.108 --> 21:51.441 align:start GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME 21:51.444 --> 21:52.041 align:start DECISIONS AND IT'S GOING TO BE A 21:52.044 --> 21:55.578 align:start REALLY DIFFICULT BUDGET CYCLE 21:55.581 --> 21:58.814 align:start AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO 21:58.817 --> 22:00.150 align:start BE DISAPPOINTED. 22:00.153 --> 22:01.317 align:start >> ANN DELANEY IF EDUCATION 22:01.320 --> 22:03.519 align:start SIMPLY CAN'T GET A BUDGET 22:03.522 --> 22:05.521 align:start INCREASE IN THE NEXT TWO-YEAR 22:05.524 --> 22:07.523 align:start STATE BUDGET IS IT HARD TO BLAME 22:07.526 --> 22:10.226 align:start LAWMAKERS FOR THAT? 22:10.229 --> 22:13.596 align:start >> I THINK IT IS. 22:13.599 --> 22:15.699 align:start THE ENTIRE YEAR BUDGET IS 22:15.702 --> 22:16.833 align:start CONFIRMED BY SPENDING AND IT'S 22:16.836 --> 22:19.168 align:start ALSO BEEN DETERMINED BY REVENUE 22:19.171 --> 22:21.104 align:start AND WASHINGTON SHOULD HELP AND 22:21.107 --> 22:22.906 align:start LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR THE 22:22.909 --> 22:25.508 align:start DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE PROPOSE 22:25.511 --> 22:25.742 align:start FUNDING FOR LOCAL AND STATE 22:25.745 --> 22:27.510 align:start BUDGETS. 22:27.513 --> 22:28.945 align:start IT'S MITCH MCCONNELL WHO WON'T 22:28.948 --> 22:30.346 align:start LET THAT OCCUR. 22:30.349 --> 22:32.315 align:start NUMBER ONE. 22:32.318 --> 22:32.548 align:start NUMBER TWO THERE ARE REVENUE 22:32.551 --> 22:35.084 align:start SOURCES. 22:35.087 --> 22:38.087 align:start THAT IS THERE. 22:38.090 --> 22:42.091 align:start WE COULD ROLLBACK THAT THE 22:42.094 --> 22:43.092 align:start INCOME TAX MIKE PENCE PUT IN AND 22:43.095 --> 22:45.161 align:start THE CORPORATE TAX THAT'S GOING 22:45.164 --> 22:45.895 align:start THROUGH. 22:45.898 --> 22:47.497 align:start THERE ARE WAYS TO INCREASE 22:47.500 --> 22:48.498 align:start REVENUE. 22:48.501 --> 22:49.165 align:start THE GOVERNOR HAD PROMISED 22:49.168 --> 22:52.435 align:start TEACHERS NOT JUST THAT THEY 22:52.438 --> 22:54.404 align:start WOULD BE, TOLD BUT THAT WE WOULD 22:54.407 --> 22:54.971 align:start ACTUALLY BEGIN TO FUND THEM 22:54.974 --> 22:57.974 align:start COMMENSURATE WITH THEIR 22:57.977 --> 22:59.509 align:start CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS AND IF YOU 22:59.512 --> 23:01.577 align:start ARE GOING TO FLAT LINE OR CUT 23:01.580 --> 23:09.252 align:start THE BUDGET YOU WILL NOT DO THAT 23:09.255 --> 23:15.492 align:start AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. 23:15.495 --> 23:17.227 align:start AND STOCKING OR HOUSES AND IT 23:17.230 --> 23:19.262 align:start DOESN'T REQUIRE THE STATE HAVE 23:19.265 --> 23:25.468 align:start THE INPUT AND IF THE GOVERNOR 23:25.471 --> 23:26.269 align:start FAILS TO LIVE UP TO HIS PROMISE 23:26.272 --> 23:27.404 align:start YES. 23:27.407 --> 23:28.805 align:start >> LET'S NOT FORGET TEACHER 23:28.808 --> 23:31.073 align:start SALARY NOT DETERMINED BY THE 23:31.076 --> 23:34.310 align:start STATE BUT THE LOCAL SCHOOLS. 23:34.313 --> 23:38.681 align:start >> IT'S DETERMINED BY WAYS TO 23:38.684 --> 23:41.384 align:start MAKE IT DETERMINED BY THE STATE. 23:41.387 --> 23:41.951 align:start >> THEY HAVE RESISTED. 23:41.954 --> 23:42.719 align:start THEY'VE RESISTED DOING THAT. 23:42.722 --> 23:43.319 align:start VERY QUICKLY ... 23:43.322 --> 23:43.953 align:start >>>2020 BROUGHT A RENEWED FOCUS 23:43.956 --> 23:44.654 align:start ON RACIAL INEQUITY AND POLICE 23:44.657 --> 23:45.655 align:start VIOLENCE IN THE WAKE OF THE 23:45.658 --> 23:46.789 align:start KILLINGS OF GEORGE FLOYD AND 23:46.792 --> 23:47.657 align:start BREONNA TAYLOR, AMONG OTHERS. 23:47.660 --> 23:49.124 align:start IT'S PROMPTED THE INDIANA BLACK 23:49.127 --> 23:49.626 align:start LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS TO DEVELOP AN 23:49.629 --> 23:51.828 align:start EVEN MORE ROBUST AGENDA FOR 23:51.831 --> 23:53.229 align:start 2021. 23:53.232 --> 23:54.864 align:start AND REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE 23:54.867 --> 23:55.898 align:start GREG STEUERWALD IS PRIVATELY 23:55.901 --> 23:56.499 align:start WORKING ON WHAT HOPES TO BE A 23:56.502 --> 23:59.068 align:start CONSENSUS AGENDA FOR POLICE 23:59.071 --> 24:00.169 align:start REFORM ISSUES. 24:00.172 --> 24:02.305 align:start ANN DELANEY, WILL WE SEE THE 24:02.308 --> 24:04.207 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASS ANY POLICE 24:04.210 --> 24:05.508 align:start REFORM LEGISLATION IN 2021...AND 24:05.511 --> 24:10.613 align:start IF IT DOES, WILL IT BE SOMETHING 24:10.616 --> 24:12.782 align:start THE BLACK CAUCUS WILL SUPPORT? 24:12.785 --> 24:14.918 align:start VERY QUICKLY. 24:14.921 --> 24:17.487 align:start >> I THINK THE REPRESENTATIVE IS 24:17.490 --> 24:18.288 align:start WORKING HARD TO COME UP WITH A 24:18.291 --> 24:20.523 align:start COMPROMISE SOLUTION THAT I THINK 24:20.526 --> 24:23.526 align:start IT WILL NOT BE EVERYTHING THE 24:23.529 --> 24:25.194 align:start BLACK CAUCUS WANTS BUT WILL BE 24:25.197 --> 24:26.462 align:start AN IMPROVEMENT. 24:26.465 --> 24:27.530 align:start WE HAVE TO GET REPUBLICAN RURAL 24:27.533 --> 24:29.532 align:start LEGISLATURES TO SAY IT LET THE 24:29.535 --> 24:31.534 align:start CITIES DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM. 24:31.537 --> 24:33.936 align:start THIS IS PART OF THE DIFFICULTY. 24:33.939 --> 24:37.740 align:start THEY WANT TO INTRUDE THEMSELVES 24:37.743 --> 24:38.541 align:start ON HOW DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF 24:38.544 --> 24:40.543 align:start RACIAL INEQUALITY IN THE 24:40.546 --> 24:41.478 align:start CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND 24:41.481 --> 24:42.812 align:start THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. 24:42.815 --> 24:44.881 align:start LET THE LOCALS DEAL WITH THIS 24:44.884 --> 24:47.283 align:start AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEM WILL GO 24:47.286 --> 24:48.151 align:start AWAY AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO 24:48.154 --> 24:51.087 align:start CAST THE TERRIBLE VOTES. 24:51.090 --> 24:53.823 align:start THAT WOULD BE THE WAY THE BLACK 24:53.826 --> 24:55.858 align:start CAUCUS SHOULD HAVE THIS HAPPEN. 24:55.861 --> 24:57.093 align:start >> JENNIFER HOLLOWELL WILL THERE 24:57.096 --> 24:59.762 align:start BE POLICE REFORM LEGISLATION THE 24:59.765 --> 25:02.832 align:start KIND THE BLACK OFFICE WOULD 25:02.835 --> 25:03.867 align:start SUPPORT? 25:03.870 --> 25:05.435 align:start >> ROBUST DISCUSSION WILL BE HAD 25:05.438 --> 25:07.103 align:start AROUND THIS. 25:07.106 --> 25:10.306 align:start I DO THINK SOMETHING WILL PASS 25:10.309 --> 25:11.574 align:start AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT WILL BE 25:11.577 --> 25:15.511 align:start MORE THAN WHAT ANYONE COULD HAVE 25:15.514 --> 25:17.280 align:start IMAGINED A YEAR AGO AND ALSO I 25:17.283 --> 25:18.448 align:start WOULD JUST POINT OUT GOVERNOR 25:18.451 --> 25:19.848 align:start HOLCOMB HAS TAKEN STEPS WITH THE 25:19.851 --> 25:24.387 align:start STATE POLICE TO MAKE CHANGES AT 25:24.390 --> 25:26.589 align:start THE STATE LEVEL. 25:26.592 --> 25:28.157 align:start >> AT THE STATE POLICE ACADEMY. 25:28.160 --> 25:28.457 align:start >>>THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 25:28.460 --> 25:29.058 align:start FOR THIS WEEK. 25:29.061 --> 25:29.992 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 25:29.995 --> 25:31.661 align:start DELANEY, 25:31.664 --> 25:32.962 align:start REPUBLICAN JENNIFER HALLOWELL 25:32.965 --> 25:33.963 align:start JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 25:33.966 --> 25:35.398 align:start LAWMAKERS AND 25:35.401 --> 25:36.533 align:start NIKI KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE 25:36.536 --> 25:38.334 align:start JOURNAL GAZETTE. 25:38.337 --> 25:41.871 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 25:41.874 --> 25:43.072 align:start PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 25:43.075 --> 25:44.474 align:start WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 25:44.477 --> 25:45.608 align:start YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 25:45.611 --> 25:47.910 align:start DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 25:47.913 --> 25:49.245 align:start WFYI APP. 25:49.248 --> 25:55.084 align:start I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 25:55.087 --> 25:57.353 align:start PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 25:57.356 --> 25:57.687 align:start STAYS SAFE, STAY HEALTHY, HAPPY 25:57.690 --> 25:58.354 align:start NEW YEAR AND 25:58.357 --> 26:05.194 align:start JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 26:05.197 --> 26:26.449 align:start CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK.