1 00:00:04,503 --> 00:00:06,737 >>BRANDON: WE LOOK AHEAD INTO 2 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:07,638 2021. 3 00:00:07,641 --> 00:00:08,672 COVID-19'S IMPACT ON THE 4 00:00:08,675 --> 00:00:09,841 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 5 00:00:09,844 --> 00:00:11,809 A POTENTIAL FIGHT OVER EMERGENCY 6 00:00:11,812 --> 00:00:13,411 POWERS. 7 00:00:13,414 --> 00:00:14,812 PLUS, REDISTRICTING, THE BUDGET 8 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:16,213 AND MORE ON INDIANA WEEK IN 9 00:00:16,216 --> 00:00:37,735 REVIEW FOR THE WEEK ENDING 10 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:39,771 JANUARY 1ST, 2021. 11 00:00:39,774 --> 00:00:41,839 >>>THIS WEEK, WE LOOK AHEAD TO 12 00:00:41,842 --> 00:00:43,373 THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE SESSION...A 13 00:00:43,376 --> 00:00:44,241 SESSION THAT'S ALMOST CERTAIN TO 14 00:00:44,244 --> 00:00:47,178 BE DOMINATED, IN ONE WAY OR 15 00:00:47,181 --> 00:00:48,312 ANOTHER, BY COVID-19. 16 00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:50,314 THE TONE OF THE SESSION WAS 17 00:00:50,317 --> 00:00:51,315 LIKELY SET ON ORGANIZATION DAY 18 00:00:51,318 --> 00:00:52,283 IN NOVEMBER, WHEN LEADERS OF 19 00:00:52,286 --> 00:00:53,851 BOTH PARTIES TALKED ABOUT THE 20 00:00:53,854 --> 00:00:54,852 LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE 21 00:00:54,855 --> 00:00:56,053 COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND HOW THEY 22 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:57,989 WOULD INFLUENCE LAWMAKERS' 23 00:00:57,992 --> 00:00:59,357 AGENDAS THIS YEAR. 24 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,491 HOUSE SPEAKER TODD HUSTON SAID 25 00:01:00,494 --> 00:01:01,793 HE'S LEARNED THAT THE HOOSIER 26 00:01:01,796 --> 00:01:02,960 STATE'S POOR PUBLIC HEALTH HAS 27 00:01:02,963 --> 00:01:03,628 HAD A DISPROPORTIONATELY 28 00:01:03,631 --> 00:01:05,663 NEGATIVE IMPACT DURING THE 29 00:01:05,666 --> 00:01:06,864 PANDEMIC. 30 00:01:06,867 --> 00:01:08,466 >>REP. TODD HUSTON: WE HAVE TO 31 00:01:08,469 --> 00:01:10,334 CREATE INCENTIVES AND POLICIES 32 00:01:10,337 --> 00:01:11,836 TO HELP HOOSIERS BE HEALTHIER. 33 00:01:11,839 --> 00:01:13,170 AND THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS 34 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:15,673 WILL BRING LEGISLATION FORWARD 35 00:01:15,676 --> 00:01:17,475 THIS SESSION TO DO JUST THAT. 36 00:01:17,478 --> 00:01:18,409 >>BRANDON: SENATE MINORITY 37 00:01:18,412 --> 00:01:19,710 LEADER GREG TAYLOR SAYS THE 38 00:01:19,713 --> 00:01:20,277 PANDEMIC EXPOSED SHARP 39 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,212 DISPARITIES THAT ALREADY 40 00:01:21,215 --> 00:01:23,915 EXISTED. 41 00:01:23,918 --> 00:01:26,384 >>SEN. GREG TAYLOR: AND YES, 42 00:01:26,387 --> 00:01:27,985 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR HAVE NOW 43 00:01:27,988 --> 00:01:29,019 MOVED TO THE FOREFRONT AND ARE 44 00:01:29,022 --> 00:01:30,754 MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM THIS 45 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:31,422 VIRUS. 46 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:32,456 >>BRANDON: THE LEGISLATIVE 47 00:01:32,459 --> 00:01:35,792 SESSION'S SCHEDULED START IS 48 00:01:35,795 --> 00:01:37,394 JANUARY 4. 49 00:01:37,397 --> 00:01:38,529 JUST HOW MUCH WILL COVID-19 50 00:01:38,532 --> 00:01:39,763 DOMINATE THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE 51 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,466 SESSION? 52 00:01:41,469 --> 00:01:42,533 IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 53 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:44,034 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL: 54 00:01:44,037 --> 00:01:46,270 DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY 55 00:01:46,273 --> 00:01:47,037 REPUBLICAN JENNIFER HALLOWELL 56 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,438 JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 57 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,107 LAWMAKERS AND 58 00:01:49,110 --> 00:01:51,342 NIKI KELLY, STATEHOUSE REPORTER 59 00:01:51,345 --> 00:01:51,576 FOR THE FORT WAYNE JOURNAL 60 00:01:51,579 --> 00:01:53,144 GAZETTE. 61 00:01:53,147 --> 00:01:53,678 I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 62 00:01:53,681 --> 00:01:55,079 STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 63 00:01:55,082 --> 00:01:59,950 SMITH. 64 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:01,752 JENNIFER HALLOWELL, HOW MUCH 65 00:02:01,755 --> 00:02:05,156 -- IF YOU ARE A LAWMAKER THAT 66 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:05,723 WANTS TO GET SOMETHING DONE NOT 67 00:02:05,726 --> 00:02:09,560 DIRECTLY RELATED TO COVID HOW 68 00:02:09,563 --> 00:02:10,261 DIFFICULT WILL THAT BE IN THE 69 00:02:10,264 --> 00:02:12,530 2021 SESSION? 70 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,131 >> IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. 71 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:16,901 IT'S A BUDGET SESSION AND 72 00:02:16,904 --> 00:02:18,035 EVERYTHING WILL BE DOMINATED BY 73 00:02:18,038 --> 00:02:20,905 COVID AND THE SCHEDULE MAY END 74 00:02:20,908 --> 00:02:23,107 UP CHANGING. 75 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:26,510 BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE GOING 76 00:02:26,513 --> 00:02:27,912 TO BE A LOT OF ISSUES, SOME 77 00:02:27,915 --> 00:02:29,846 DIRECTLY COVID RELATED AND SOME 78 00:02:29,849 --> 00:02:31,682 FRANKLY, ISSUES THAT WERE 79 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:33,317 BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE 80 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,520 OF THE PANDEMIC. 81 00:02:36,523 --> 00:02:39,089 YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE BROADBAND 82 00:02:39,092 --> 00:02:41,725 ACCESS, ISSUES AS THE SPEAKER 83 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:43,360 MENTIONED, A LOT OF THINGS THAT 84 00:02:43,363 --> 00:02:45,529 REALLY WE REALIZED OUR BIGGER 85 00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:47,932 ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED 86 00:02:47,935 --> 00:02:50,568 THROUGH THIS TIME PERIOD. 87 00:02:50,571 --> 00:02:52,336 AND SO THERE WILL BE SECOND AND 88 00:02:52,339 --> 00:02:54,071 THIRD LAYER EFFECTS OF ISSUES 89 00:02:54,074 --> 00:02:56,574 THAT COME TOGETHER. 90 00:02:56,577 --> 00:02:56,840 ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE TO PASS A 91 00:02:56,843 --> 00:03:00,144 BUDGET. 92 00:03:00,147 --> 00:03:01,312 THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO MUCH 93 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:03,147 MORE THAN THAT CERTAINLY READ 94 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:04,282 DISTRICTING WILL HAVE TO TAKE 95 00:03:04,285 --> 00:03:07,585 PLACE ALSO. 96 00:03:07,588 --> 00:03:08,986 BUT I THINK THAT IT WILL BE A 97 00:03:08,989 --> 00:03:11,922 CHALLENGE SOMETIMES FOR US TO 98 00:03:11,925 --> 00:03:12,890 ADDRESS ISSUES THAT MAY NOT FALL 99 00:03:12,893 --> 00:03:15,526 DIRECTLY IN LINE. 100 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:17,128 >> WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT 101 00:03:17,131 --> 00:03:18,395 REDISTRICTING AND THE BUDGETING 102 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:22,333 AND A SECOND. 103 00:03:22,336 --> 00:03:23,400 ANN DELANEY, IN SOME WAYS IT'S 104 00:03:23,403 --> 00:03:26,604 COVID NINETEENS FOCUS WILL BRING 105 00:03:26,607 --> 00:03:27,338 NEW LIFE TO ISSUES WE'VE DEBATED 106 00:03:27,341 --> 00:03:28,805 FOR YEARS. 107 00:03:28,808 --> 00:03:30,207 I THINK ABOUT INCREASING THE 108 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:32,310 CIGARETTE TAX SOMETHING THAT'S 109 00:03:32,313 --> 00:03:34,679 BEEN DEBATED AND PASSED BY THE 110 00:03:34,682 --> 00:03:36,146 HOUSE IN MULTIPLE PAST SESSIONS. 111 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:38,082 WITH THE RENEWED FOCUS ON HEALTH 112 00:03:38,085 --> 00:03:41,218 OUTCOMES AND THE NEED FOR 113 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:41,652 REVENUE GIVE LIFE TO THAT AMONG 114 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:43,087 COVID-19? 115 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:46,957 >> YOU WOULD HOPE SO. 116 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,358 THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO PUT CAPS 117 00:03:48,361 --> 00:03:49,293 ON CIGARETTES AND IT WOULD GIVE 118 00:03:49,296 --> 00:03:50,995 US MONEY. 119 00:03:50,998 --> 00:03:53,163 I'M HAPPY TO HEAR SPEAKER 120 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:54,164 HOUSTON TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO 121 00:03:54,167 --> 00:03:56,166 ADDRESS PUBLIC HEALTH AND I HOPE 122 00:03:56,169 --> 00:03:59,570 AS PART OF THAT WHEN YOU TALK 123 00:03:59,573 --> 00:04:00,705 ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT WE ARE 48 124 00:04:00,708 --> 00:04:03,040 OUT OF THE 50TH STATES AND WHAT 125 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:04,942 WE SPEND ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND 126 00:04:04,945 --> 00:04:06,377 THAT REFLECTS THE FACT THAT 127 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:08,312 NATURALLY OUR POOR HEALTH 128 00:04:08,315 --> 00:04:10,681 SHOWING REFLECTS THE FACT THAT 129 00:04:10,684 --> 00:04:12,716 WE ARE 48 OUT OF 50 ON WHERE WE 130 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:13,784 STAND ON EDUCATION AND EARLY 131 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:16,654 TREATMENT AND INTERVENTION IN 132 00:04:16,657 --> 00:04:17,521 NUTRITION AND ALL OF THE THINGS 133 00:04:17,524 --> 00:04:18,656 THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO PUBLIC 134 00:04:18,659 --> 00:04:21,925 HEALTH SO I AM GLAD TO HEAR HE 135 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:23,527 WILL MAKE THAT A FOCUS BUT TO DO 136 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:24,528 THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE 137 00:04:24,531 --> 00:04:27,098 REVENUE. 138 00:04:27,101 --> 00:04:28,132 THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE OFF THEIR 139 00:04:28,135 --> 00:04:29,533 NO CAPS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES 140 00:04:29,536 --> 00:04:33,304 HANG OUT AND START THINKING 141 00:04:33,307 --> 00:04:35,506 ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC CITIZENS 142 00:04:35,509 --> 00:04:39,076 OF INDIANA NEED TO GET AND STAY 143 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:42,079 HEALTHY AND REALLY TO REWARD 144 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:42,747 THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SO 145 00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:44,515 EXEMPLARY SINCE THIS CRISIS. 146 00:04:44,518 --> 00:04:47,551 YOUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND 147 00:04:47,554 --> 00:04:49,119 WORKERS IN THE NURSING HOME, 148 00:04:49,122 --> 00:04:51,121 TEACHERS ABOVE AND BEYOND. 149 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:53,824 ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE 150 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:57,628 STEPPED UP DESPITE THE RISK, WE 151 00:04:57,631 --> 00:04:59,330 NEED TO HAVE OUR PRIORITIES 152 00:04:59,333 --> 00:05:00,731 REFLECT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. 153 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:02,333 >> NIKI KELLY, JENNIFER 154 00:05:02,336 --> 00:05:03,634 HOLLOWELL ALLUDED TO THIS WHICH 155 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:05,303 IS WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT 156 00:05:05,306 --> 00:05:07,938 EXACTLY THE SESSION WILL LOOK 157 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:10,107 LIKE IN TERMS OF HOW COVID MIGHT 158 00:05:10,110 --> 00:05:12,176 DIRECTLY IMPACT IN TERMS OF 159 00:05:12,179 --> 00:05:14,478 PEOPLE GETTING THE VIRUS AND 160 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:16,047 HAVING TO QUARANTINE AND DOES 161 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:16,314 THAT POTENTIALLY LEAD TO A 162 00:05:16,317 --> 00:05:18,182 SHUTDOWN. 163 00:05:18,185 --> 00:05:20,484 DO WE HAVE THOSE ANSWERS FOR HOW 164 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:22,987 THE HOUSE AND SENATE ARE SORT OF 165 00:05:22,990 --> 00:05:23,587 TRYING TO AVOID SOME OF THOSE 166 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:26,724 THINGS. 167 00:05:26,727 --> 00:05:27,858 >> I THINK THEY ARE STILL 168 00:05:27,861 --> 00:05:29,760 FINALIZING PROTOCOLS ON TESTING, 169 00:05:29,763 --> 00:05:31,929 WHO THEY HAVE TO LET KNOW IF 170 00:05:31,932 --> 00:05:32,396 THEY'VE HAD EXPOSURE, THAT TYPE 171 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,732 OF THING. 172 00:05:34,735 --> 00:05:35,733 EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH EXPECTS 173 00:05:35,736 --> 00:05:37,668 SOME SORT OF SLOW DOWN OR SHUT 174 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:39,737 DOWN AT SOME POINT. 175 00:05:39,740 --> 00:05:42,339 TO GET THAT MANY PEOPLE AROUND 176 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,341 EACH OTHER DAY-AFTER-DAY AFTER 177 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,377 DAY AND NOT EXPECT SOME CASES 178 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:49,347 JUST IS NOT REALISTIC. 179 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:51,181 AND DEPENDING HOW BAD THE 180 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:53,183 SHUTDOWNS ARE, MAYBE SWITCHED TO 181 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:55,686 TAKING SOME TIME OFF AND WORKING 182 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:59,089 MORE IN MAY AND JUNE INSTEAD. 183 00:05:59,092 --> 00:05:59,490 AND THAT MIGHT ALSO HELP SOME 184 00:05:59,493 --> 00:06:02,827 LOGISTICAL ISSUES. 185 00:06:02,830 --> 00:06:03,861 >> THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE 186 00:06:03,864 --> 00:06:07,464 INFORMATION TO REDISTRICT AND I 187 00:06:07,467 --> 00:06:08,866 WILL REMIND THE AUDIENCE THAT 188 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:10,901 THE DEADLINE TO ADJOURN THE 189 00:06:10,904 --> 00:06:12,470 SESSION IS APRIL 29 BUT THAT 190 00:06:12,473 --> 00:06:14,538 DEADLINE EXIST IN STATE LAW AND 191 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:16,507 IS EASY TO CHANGE OR SAY ONE 192 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,375 YEAR IF THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN. 193 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:20,310 JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR 194 00:06:20,313 --> 00:06:23,113 NO PARTICULAR REASON. 195 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:24,314 JON SCHWANTES, LAWMAKERS HAVE 196 00:06:24,317 --> 00:06:26,316 ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO 197 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:27,518 LIMIT THE BILLS THEY ARE 198 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:28,953 CONSIDERING BECAUSE THE REALITY 199 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:30,687 OF ALL OF THIS IS IT WILL NOT BE 200 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:32,890 A NORMAL SESSION IN EVERY SINGLE 201 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:33,990 WAY AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE 202 00:06:33,993 --> 00:06:35,325 TO GET NEARLY AS MUCH DONE AS I 203 00:06:35,328 --> 00:06:36,827 WOULD LIKE TO. 204 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:39,129 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HOOSIERS 205 00:06:39,132 --> 00:06:42,466 SHOULD EXPECT FOR ONE YEAR? 206 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:45,302 >> THERE WILL BE A CONTRACTION 207 00:06:45,305 --> 00:06:48,072 INCAPACITY AND IT MAY TRANSLATE 208 00:06:48,075 --> 00:06:48,939 INTO A LAMENT MEANING THERE ARE 209 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:52,142 FEWER BILLS INTRODUCED BY 210 00:06:52,145 --> 00:06:53,710 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE. 211 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:55,312 I DO THINK THE VAST MAJORITY 212 00:06:55,315 --> 00:06:58,515 WILL EITHER HAVE A DIRECT FOCUS 213 00:06:58,518 --> 00:06:59,416 ON COVID-19 ISSUES OR TO THE 214 00:06:59,419 --> 00:07:02,486 EXTENT SOMEBODY CAN TAKE AN 215 00:07:02,489 --> 00:07:04,154 ISSUE AND ARGUE IN SOME 216 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:07,525 TANGENTIAL FASHION THIS WILL 217 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:10,127 BENEFIT THE STATE IF AND WHEN 218 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:11,728 THE NEXT PANDEMIC ROLES AROUND, 219 00:07:11,731 --> 00:07:15,032 WE WILL SEE THAT. 220 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:16,333 I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED FOR 221 00:07:16,336 --> 00:07:18,435 INSTANCE, DURING THE BUDGET 222 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:19,436 PROCEEDINGS TO SEE ANY AND ALL 223 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:21,705 THE UNIVERSITIES CERTAINLY THE 224 00:07:21,708 --> 00:07:24,208 RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND STATES 225 00:07:24,211 --> 00:07:26,844 MAKE A PITCH FOR ANY PLANS 226 00:07:26,847 --> 00:07:28,912 THEY'VE HAD STORED IN THE CLOSET 227 00:07:28,915 --> 00:07:30,514 FOR ADDITIONAL SCIENTIFIC 228 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:32,983 RESEARCH, VACCINATION RESEARCH, 229 00:07:32,986 --> 00:07:33,384 CUTTING EDGE IN TERMS OF THOSE 230 00:07:33,387 --> 00:07:35,185 TYPES OF THINGS. 231 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:37,488 IF THERE WOULD BE AN APPETITE IN 232 00:07:37,491 --> 00:07:39,890 THE CAPITAL BUDGET OR OPERATING 233 00:07:39,893 --> 00:07:40,290 FOR EXPANSION IT WOULD PROBABLY 234 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:42,326 HAPPEN. 235 00:07:42,329 --> 00:07:44,128 LASTLY, I'M NOT SURE THEY WOULD 236 00:07:44,131 --> 00:07:46,530 EVEN NEED TO CHANGE THE LAW AND 237 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:48,466 THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT, BUT 238 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:49,733 WITHOUT A STATE BUDGET THE 239 00:07:49,736 --> 00:07:51,502 SIMPLEST SOLUTION IS FOR THE 240 00:07:51,505 --> 00:07:53,804 GOVERNOR TO CALL THEM BACK INTO 241 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:55,071 SESSION I WOULD ASSUME SINCE THE 242 00:07:55,074 --> 00:07:56,607 MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS AND 243 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:59,510 HOUSE AND SENATE AND A 244 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:00,577 REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, THEY COULD 245 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:02,312 WORK TOGETHER WITHOUT HAVING TO 246 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:03,948 ENACT LEGISLATION TO CHANGE THE 247 00:08:03,951 --> 00:08:05,950 SCHEDULE AND THE MANNER IN WHICH 248 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:07,718 SPECIAL SESSIONS ARE CALLED. 249 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:11,788 >> SPEAKING OF THE GOVERNOR AND 250 00:08:11,791 --> 00:08:12,389 THE MAJORITIES WORKING TO GATHER 251 00:08:12,392 --> 00:08:13,023 ... 252 00:08:13,026 --> 00:08:13,691 >>>A MAJORITY OF HOOSIERS SAY 253 00:08:13,694 --> 00:08:14,558 THE GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY POWERS 254 00:08:14,561 --> 00:08:15,158 SHOULD BE MORE LIMITED - THAT'S 255 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:15,993 ACCORDING TO THE LATEST EDITION 256 00:08:15,996 --> 00:08:17,160 OF THE BALL STATE HOOSIER 257 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:18,228 SURVEY. 258 00:08:18,231 --> 00:08:19,497 THE LATEST POLL OF 600 HOOSIERS 259 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:20,631 SHOWS THAT 60 PERCENT OF 260 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:22,366 RESPONDENTS SUPPORT CHANGING 261 00:08:22,369 --> 00:08:23,434 INDIANA LAW TO REQUIRE THE 262 00:08:23,437 --> 00:08:24,869 GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO APPROVE ANY 263 00:08:24,872 --> 00:08:28,071 EXTENSION OF A GOVERNOR'S 264 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:29,139 EMERGENCY ORDER BEYOND 30 DAYS. 265 00:08:29,142 --> 00:08:31,108 THAT INCLUDES 56 PERCENT OF 266 00:08:31,111 --> 00:08:32,509 DEMOCRATS AND 63 PERCENT OF 267 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:33,510 REPUBLICANS IN THE SURVEY. 268 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:34,912 THE SURVEY RESULTS COME AHEAD OF 269 00:08:34,915 --> 00:08:36,580 A LIKELY DEBATE IN THE 2021 270 00:08:36,583 --> 00:08:37,881 SESSION OVER MANY REPUBLICAN 271 00:08:37,884 --> 00:08:39,850 LAWMAKERS' DESIRE TO CURTAIL THE 272 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,752 GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY POWERS. 273 00:08:41,755 --> 00:08:43,153 BALL STATE POLITICAL SCIENTIST 274 00:08:43,156 --> 00:08:44,555 CHARLES TAYLOR SAYS IT WILL BE A 275 00:08:44,558 --> 00:08:46,790 TEST OF GOVERNOR ERIC HOLCOMB'S 276 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:48,359 LEADERSHIP AND SWAY OVER THE 277 00:08:48,362 --> 00:08:50,327 GOP-CONTROLLED GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 278 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:52,496 >>CHARLES TAYLOR: TO TRY AND 279 00:08:52,499 --> 00:08:55,232 TALK THEM DOWN FROM ANY 280 00:08:55,235 --> 00:08:57,401 PROPOSALS THAT WOULD SEVERELY 281 00:08:57,404 --> 00:08:59,203 LIMIT FUTURE GOVERNORS OR LIMIT 282 00:08:59,206 --> 00:09:00,037 HIM IN HIS SECOND TERM. 283 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,372 >>BRANDON: LEGISLATIVE LEADERS 284 00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:07,678 HAVE ALREADY SAID THEY INTEND TO 285 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:11,815 AT LEAST DEBATE THE ISSUE. 286 00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:13,884 AND ALIGNING, WE ARE 9-10 287 00:09:13,887 --> 00:09:17,254 MONTHS WITH THE GOVERNOR 288 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:18,222 ESTABLISHING THIS PUBLIC HEALTH 289 00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:18,922 EMERGENCY ISSUING EXECUTIVE 290 00:09:18,925 --> 00:09:22,626 ORDER AFTER EXECUTIVE ORDER TO 291 00:09:22,629 --> 00:09:23,627 CONFRONT IT WITH NO LITERAL 292 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:26,530 INPUT FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 293 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:28,098 AT THE GOVERNOR HAS SAID HE'S 294 00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:29,500 TALKED TO LEGISLATIVE LEADERS SO 295 00:09:29,503 --> 00:09:32,069 SHOULD THEY TIGHTEN THEIR 296 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:36,506 CONTROL OR ASSERT MORE AUTHORITY 297 00:09:36,509 --> 00:09:37,307 OVER THESE -- THE GOVERNOR. 298 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:43,113 >> I DON'T KNOW IF I TAKE THE 299 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:45,148 GOVERNOR AT HIS WORD BUT I HAVE 300 00:09:45,151 --> 00:09:46,450 NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE 301 00:09:46,453 --> 00:09:48,251 GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHILE THIS WAS 302 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:50,721 GOING ON AND I DON'T KNOW HOW 303 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:52,589 REALISTIC IT IS TO SET AN 304 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:53,724 ARBITRARY 30 DAY DEADLINE. 305 00:09:53,727 --> 00:09:55,325 WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEVERE 306 00:09:55,328 --> 00:09:57,595 PANDEMIC AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU 307 00:09:57,598 --> 00:10:01,799 CAN'T GET A QUORUM OR YOU HAVE 308 00:10:01,802 --> 00:10:03,900 LEGISLATORS WHO ARE EITHER 309 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:05,936 WORRIED ABOUT CONTRACTING 310 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:09,640 WHATEVER THE NEXT PANDEMIC IS OR 311 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:10,674 ARE ALREADY UNDER THE WEATHER? 312 00:10:10,677 --> 00:10:12,676 WHAT HAPPENS THEN? 313 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,345 THE EMERGENCY ORDER JUST EXPIRES 314 00:10:15,348 --> 00:10:16,480 EVEN AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED IT 315 00:10:16,483 --> 00:10:18,682 THE MOST. 316 00:10:18,685 --> 00:10:20,684 WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. 317 00:10:20,687 --> 00:10:23,220 GOV. ERIC HOLCOMB DID NOT MAKE 318 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,154 HIS RIGHT WING HAPPY BECAUSE HE 319 00:10:24,157 --> 00:10:26,290 PRESUMABLY DID SO MUCH AND 320 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:27,524 DIDN'T MAKE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE 321 00:10:27,527 --> 00:10:30,127 WORRIED ABOUT THE HEALTH AND 322 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:31,728 SAFETY OF HOOSIERS BECAUSE HE 323 00:10:31,731 --> 00:10:33,330 DID TOO LITTLE. 324 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:34,565 I THINK YOU CHALK THAT UP. 325 00:10:34,568 --> 00:10:39,503 THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN EVERY YEAR 326 00:10:39,506 --> 00:10:40,904 BUT IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND A 327 00:10:40,907 --> 00:10:43,507 GOVERNOR, WHEN YOU CAN'T PREDICT 328 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:46,477 WHAT THE NEXT CRISIS IS IS NOT 329 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,111 VERY GOOD PUBLIC POLICY. 330 00:10:48,114 --> 00:10:50,247 >> JENNIFER IS HOLCOMB HEADED 331 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:53,383 FOR A FIGHT OVER THIS ISSUE? 332 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:54,184 >> I UNDERSTAND THERE HAVE BEEN 333 00:10:54,187 --> 00:10:56,186 DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST 334 00:10:56,189 --> 00:10:57,788 SEVERAL MONTHS AND I THINK THERE 335 00:10:57,791 --> 00:11:01,925 ARE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE RAISED 336 00:11:01,928 --> 00:11:03,227 CONCENS, BUT ULTIMATELY AS ANN 337 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:05,696 AND OTHERS HAVE INDICATED, THE 338 00:11:05,699 --> 00:11:07,197 GOVERNOR HAS TO BE ABLE TO 339 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,366 OPERATE AND RUN THE STATE AND 340 00:11:09,369 --> 00:11:13,203 IT'S NOT ALWAYS FEASIBLE OR 341 00:11:13,206 --> 00:11:15,372 ADVISABLE TO BRING 150 342 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:16,674 LEGISLATORS TO INDIANAPOLIS 343 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:19,142 DURING A PANDEMIC. 344 00:11:19,145 --> 00:11:19,677 SO I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME 345 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:24,414 DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BUT I 346 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:26,249 DON'T EXPECT IT WILL BE A 347 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:27,150 CONTENTIOUS ISSUE. 348 00:11:27,153 --> 00:11:29,319 >> JON SCHWANTES, WOULD YOU 349 00:11:29,322 --> 00:11:31,722 PREDICT WE WOULD SEE CHANGES TO 350 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:32,956 THE GOVERNOR'S EMERGENCY POWER 351 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:34,158 AUTHORITIES? 352 00:11:34,161 --> 00:11:35,792 >> AT THE EDGES WE MIGHT SEE 353 00:11:35,795 --> 00:11:39,830 SOME CHANGES AND IT MIGHT BE 354 00:11:39,833 --> 00:11:42,899 SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL LAYER OF 355 00:11:42,902 --> 00:11:45,269 REVIEW BY THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH 356 00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:47,904 WHETHER -- I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD 357 00:11:47,907 --> 00:11:49,273 NECESSARILY REQUIRE A QUORUM FOR 358 00:11:49,276 --> 00:11:52,542 THE REASONS ANN MENTIONED. 359 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,745 HOW DO YOU GET 150 PEOPLE OR 2/3 360 00:11:54,748 --> 00:11:56,346 OF THOSE PEOPLE TO INDIANAPOLIS 361 00:11:56,349 --> 00:11:59,550 TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. 362 00:11:59,553 --> 00:12:01,318 MAYBE SOME SORT OF LEADERSHIP 363 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:04,721 REVIEW OR SOME OTHER GROUP THAT 364 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,391 MIGHT BE EASIER TO CONVENE. 365 00:12:07,394 --> 00:12:11,795 BUT I DOUBT WE WILL GO BACK TO 366 00:12:11,798 --> 00:12:13,864 WHAT WE HAD FOR INSTANCE, THIS 367 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:15,499 ALL CAME OUT OF HURRICANE 368 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:17,300 KATRINA AND THE AFTERMATH ONE 369 00:12:17,303 --> 00:12:19,436 STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WERE 370 00:12:19,439 --> 00:12:20,003 SAYING IF NOT A HURRICANE I 371 00:12:20,006 --> 00:12:23,474 DOUBT A HURRICANE WILL HIT 372 00:12:23,477 --> 00:12:25,108 INDIANA, BUT IF SOME SIMILAR 373 00:12:25,111 --> 00:12:26,076 DISASTER WITH THAT SIGNIFICANT 374 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:27,944 IMPACT, WHAT WOULD WE DO SO I 375 00:12:27,947 --> 00:12:30,313 DON'T THINK WE WILL GO BACK TO 376 00:12:30,316 --> 00:12:31,281 BEFORE THAT WHEN THERE WAS 377 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:34,084 NOTHING ON THE BOOKS. 378 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,919 JUST SOME WORK AT THE MARGINS. 379 00:12:35,922 --> 00:12:36,753 >> NIKI KELLY IN TERMS OF THE 380 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:39,156 CHALLENGES OF SOMETHING 381 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:40,524 HAPPENING TO THAT EMERGENCY 382 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,558 AUTHORITY, WE BOTH TALKED TO 383 00:12:41,561 --> 00:12:43,327 REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS AND THERE'S 384 00:12:43,330 --> 00:12:44,928 NOT A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO 385 00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:47,998 DON'T LIKE ALL THE POWER THAT 386 00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:49,466 ERIC HOLCOMB HAS HAD FOR THE 387 00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:50,901 LAST TEN MONTHS. 388 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:54,671 >> VIRTUALLY EVERY GOP LAWMAKER 389 00:12:54,674 --> 00:12:55,272 I TALKED TO WANTS SOME SORT OF 390 00:12:55,275 --> 00:12:56,506 DISCUSSION. 391 00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:59,509 THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN 392 00:12:59,512 --> 00:13:01,111 A 30 DAY OR NOTHING OR NINE 393 00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:02,913 MONTHS OR TEN MONTHS AND KEEP 394 00:13:02,916 --> 00:13:04,648 REVIEWING IT AND SOME THINGS 395 00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:06,650 I'VE HEARD ARE BASICALLY SAYING 396 00:13:06,653 --> 00:13:08,685 MAYBE DO IT FOR THREE MONTHS AND 397 00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:09,319 THEN THE LEGISLATURE WOULD HAVE 398 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:11,555 TO ACT. 399 00:13:11,558 --> 00:13:13,223 SO TO ANN'S POINT FROM EARLIER, 400 00:13:13,226 --> 00:13:18,262 IF THEY COULDN'T GET THERE OR 401 00:13:18,265 --> 00:13:20,264 WHATEVER IT WOULD REQUIRE LIKE A 402 00:13:20,267 --> 00:13:23,567 PROACTIVE VOTE TO STOP IT. 403 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:24,234 SO THAT IS ONE OPTION ON THE 404 00:13:24,237 --> 00:13:25,135 TABLE. 405 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:26,203 >>>2021 IS A REDISTRICTING YEAR, 406 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:27,037 AND INDIANA VOTER ADVOCACY 407 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,071 GROUPS ARE CREATING WHAT THEY'RE 408 00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:30,006 CALLING A "SHADOW" REDISTRICTING 409 00:13:30,009 --> 00:13:31,008 COMMISSION TO GIVE HOOSIERS AN 410 00:13:31,011 --> 00:13:32,008 INDEPENDENT CONTRAST WHEN 411 00:13:32,011 --> 00:13:35,579 LAWMAKERS REDRAW LEGISLATIVE 412 00:13:35,582 --> 00:13:37,414 DISTRICT LINES. 413 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:37,948 GROUPS LIKE COMMON CAUSE INDIANA 414 00:13:37,951 --> 00:13:39,482 HAVE LONG CALLED FOR AN 415 00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:40,217 INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING 416 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:41,685 COMMISSION TO DRAW INDIANA'S 417 00:13:41,688 --> 00:13:43,020 LEGISLATIVE MAPS. 418 00:13:43,023 --> 00:13:44,454 TAKING IT OUT OF THE HANDS OF 419 00:13:44,457 --> 00:13:45,488 LAWMAKERS, THEY SAY, WILL RESULT 420 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:47,090 IN FAIRER, MORE COMPETITIVE 421 00:13:47,093 --> 00:13:48,692 DISTRICTS. 422 00:13:48,695 --> 00:13:50,093 SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM RODRIC 423 00:13:50,096 --> 00:13:51,428 BRAY - WHOSE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS 424 00:13:51,431 --> 00:13:52,496 HAS LONG OPPOSED SUCH A 425 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:53,897 COMMISSION - HAS SAID A TRULY 426 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:55,165 INDEPENDENT BODY WOULD BE 427 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:56,834 DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO 428 00:13:56,837 --> 00:13:58,235 PUT TOGETHER. 429 00:13:58,238 --> 00:13:59,169 >>SEN. RODRIC BRAY: YOU CAN SAY 430 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:00,504 IT'S A NONPARTISAN BOARD THAT 431 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:02,506 YOU WOULD APPOINT. 432 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:03,640 BUT EVERYBODY COMES TO THE POLL 433 00:14:03,643 --> 00:14:05,742 OR ANY POSITION WITH SOME 434 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:07,143 POLITICAL INTEREST. 435 00:14:07,146 --> 00:14:08,378 AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO 436 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:10,848 APPOINT THAT NONPARTISAN PERSON 437 00:14:10,851 --> 00:14:12,849 ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE AN 438 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:13,550 INTEREST IN WHAT THAT PERSON'S 439 00:14:13,553 --> 00:14:15,085 PHILOSOPHY IS EITHER, WHETHER 440 00:14:15,088 --> 00:14:15,819 IT'S PUBLICLY KNOWN OR NOT. 441 00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:17,587 >>BRANDON: BUT COMMON CAUSE 442 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:19,156 INDIANA DIRECTOR JULIA VAUGHN 443 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:19,756 SAID THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS 444 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:20,757 SHADOW COMMISSION HOPES TO 445 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,626 DISPEL. 446 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:23,560 SHE SAYS THE GROUP WILL INCLUDE 447 00:14:23,563 --> 00:14:24,594 REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS AND 448 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:26,162 PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELONG TO 449 00:14:26,165 --> 00:14:27,330 EITHER PARTY. 450 00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:28,465 THE SHADOW COMMISSION HAS NO 451 00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:30,133 ACTUAL POWER. 452 00:14:30,136 --> 00:14:31,234 IT SERVES AS A PUBLIC 453 00:14:31,237 --> 00:14:39,276 ALTERNATIVE TO WHATEVER MAPS 454 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:40,143 LAWMAKERS DRAW IN 2021. 455 00:14:40,146 --> 00:14:42,446 >> JENNIFER ALL COME TO YOU ON 456 00:14:42,449 --> 00:14:43,179 THIS QUESTION DO YOU THINK THIS 457 00:14:43,182 --> 00:14:45,582 SHADOW COMMISSION THEY ARE 458 00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:46,883 CALLING IT WILL HAVE ANY 459 00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:51,988 PRACTICAL EFFECT ON THE 460 00:14:51,991 --> 00:14:53,490 REDISTRICTING PROCESS THIS YEAR? 461 00:14:53,493 --> 00:14:54,892 >> I DON'T THINK -- YOU KNOW I 462 00:14:54,895 --> 00:15:01,064 DON'T THINK IT WILL. 463 00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:01,864 I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH PRO TEM 464 00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:06,503 SENATOR BRADY. 465 00:15:06,506 --> 00:15:07,204 IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A 466 00:15:07,207 --> 00:15:10,407 GROUP WITHOUT BIAS. 467 00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:13,810 EVERYONE IS GOING TO BRING BIAS 468 00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:16,046 TO THE SITUATION AND WHETHER 469 00:15:16,049 --> 00:15:19,582 IT'S DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS 470 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:20,650 NONPROFITS ET CETERA THEY HAVE 471 00:15:20,653 --> 00:15:22,085 POLITICAL LEANINGS AND FRANKLY, 472 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:24,721 I THINK IT IS BETTER TO LEAVE 473 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:26,089 THE PROCESS UP TO PEOPLE WHO 474 00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:27,023 REPRESENT THE VOTERS OF THE 475 00:15:27,026 --> 00:15:29,459 STATE. 476 00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:31,662 THEY HAVE BOTH THE SPEAKER AND 477 00:15:31,665 --> 00:15:34,231 SENATOR PRO TEM HAVE SAID THAT 478 00:15:34,234 --> 00:15:36,867 THEY WILL HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS 479 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:38,902 AND IT WILL BE A TRANSPARENT 480 00:15:38,905 --> 00:15:41,271 PROCESS AND SO THE PUBLIC WILL 481 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:42,706 HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN 482 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:45,742 AND SHAPE THAT PROCESS. 483 00:15:45,745 --> 00:15:47,978 BUT I BELIEVE IT IS AS IT SHOULD 484 00:15:47,981 --> 00:15:50,246 BE, A DECISION MADE BY 485 00:15:50,249 --> 00:15:50,547 LEGISLATORS WHO ARE ELECTED BY 486 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:51,915 VOTERS. 487 00:15:51,918 --> 00:15:54,084 >> ANN DELANEY WILL THIS 488 00:15:54,087 --> 00:15:54,985 COMMISSION HAVE ANY PRACTICAL 489 00:15:54,988 --> 00:15:58,221 EFFECT? 490 00:15:58,224 --> 00:16:00,223 >> I THINK IT MIGHT SHAME THE 491 00:16:00,226 --> 00:16:00,590 REPUBLICANS INTO DOING SOMETHING 492 00:16:00,593 --> 00:16:03,126 A LITTLE MORE FAIR. 493 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:05,962 WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE 494 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:07,130 DISTRICTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE 495 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,131 A THEOLOGIAN TO JUSTIFY THE 496 00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:09,099 PARAMETERS OF THE DISTRICTS THAT 497 00:16:09,102 --> 00:16:11,935 HAVE BEEN DRAWN. 498 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:14,270 I FIND IT REALLY IRONIC WHEN THE 499 00:16:14,273 --> 00:16:15,105 SENATOR SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE A 500 00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:17,840 NONPARTISAN COMMISSION. 501 00:16:17,843 --> 00:16:20,110 YOU CAN HAVE NONPARTISAN FACTS 502 00:16:20,113 --> 00:16:21,311 AND STATISTICS AND ALL IN AREAS 503 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:24,647 OF INTEREST AND BOUNDARIES AND 504 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:25,282 THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE. 505 00:16:25,285 --> 00:16:29,319 INSTEAD OF HAVING A NONPARTISAN 506 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:30,921 BOARD, HE WANTS TO HAVE THE MOST 507 00:16:30,924 --> 00:16:31,721 PARTISAN GROUP MAKE THE 508 00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:34,657 DECISION. 509 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:35,192 THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOLDING 510 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:36,526 THOSE PIECES AND YOU'D THINK 511 00:16:36,529 --> 00:16:38,528 THEY DON'T WANT TO PROTECT THEM. 512 00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:39,930 THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY 513 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:41,131 SHOULD CHOOSE THEIR VOTERS 514 00:16:41,134 --> 00:16:43,033 RATHER THAN HAVE VOTERS CHOOSE 515 00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:46,669 THEM AND THEY'VE TAKEN IT TO AN 516 00:16:46,672 --> 00:16:47,938 ART FORM WITH COMPUTERS SO IT'S 517 00:16:47,941 --> 00:16:50,507 THE HEIGHT OF HYPOCRISY FOR HIM 518 00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:52,509 TO SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE 519 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:54,110 NONPARTISANSHIP WHEN HE AND HIS 520 00:16:54,113 --> 00:16:56,713 CAUCUS AND THE CAUCUS IN THE 521 00:16:56,716 --> 00:16:58,915 HOUSE ARE THE MOST PARTISAN OF 522 00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:00,751 ALL. 523 00:17:00,754 --> 00:17:01,518 >> JON SCHWANTES, I ASKED 524 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:03,920 ORIGINALLY ABOUT PRACTICAL 525 00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:05,722 EFFECT AND I WANT TO ASK THAT 526 00:17:05,725 --> 00:17:07,924 AGAIN, BUT NOT IN THE SHORT-TERM 527 00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:09,158 AND LONG-TERM, VOTER ADVOCACY 528 00:17:09,161 --> 00:17:10,927 GROUPS CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR 529 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,029 AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION TO 530 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:15,065 DRAW LINES INTO THE NEXT DECADE 531 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:16,332 BEFORE WE DRAW DISTRICT LINES 532 00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:18,835 AGAIN TEN YEARS FROM NOW. 533 00:17:18,838 --> 00:17:21,304 WILL HAVING THIS GROUP DESIGN A 534 00:17:21,307 --> 00:17:23,139 MAP AND BE ABLE TO CONTRAST THAT 535 00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:25,242 WITH WHATEVER LAWMAKERS COME UP 536 00:17:25,245 --> 00:17:26,676 WITH INTO THE FUTURE, WILL THAT 537 00:17:26,679 --> 00:17:30,747 GIVE THEM MORE HOPE THAT CHANGE 538 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:32,715 COMES IN THE FUTURE? 539 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:35,185 >> MAYBE. 540 00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:37,720 I DOUBT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, 541 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,990 IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME. 542 00:17:39,993 --> 00:17:41,525 THE MAPS THE SUPER MAJORITY WANT 543 00:17:41,528 --> 00:17:43,660 TO PRODUCE WILL IN THE END BE 544 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:45,128 THE MAPS THE REPUBLICAN SUPER 545 00:17:45,131 --> 00:17:47,531 MAJORITIES WANT TO PRODUCE. 546 00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:51,334 CLEARLY AS WE SEE FEWER AND 547 00:17:51,337 --> 00:17:52,736 FEWER CONTESTED RACES, WHILE WE 548 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:53,903 SEE VOTER TURNOUT SUFFERING 549 00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:56,239 ACCORDINGLY WITH THIS PAST 550 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:57,307 ELECTION BEING A BIT OF AN 551 00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:58,141 EXCEPTION BECAUSE PERS BECAUSE 552 00:17:58,144 --> 00:18:00,477 PRESIDENTIAL CONTESTS. 553 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,448 I THINK WE GET TO A POINT WHERE 554 00:18:05,451 --> 00:18:06,683 PEOPLE SEE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 555 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,918 RACES IN OUR LEGISLATIVE 556 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:10,520 DISTRICT SO WE CAN VOTE FOR IT. 557 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:11,221 CLEARLY THE CURRENT SYSTEM 558 00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:13,256 DISCOURAGES THAT. 559 00:18:13,259 --> 00:18:15,391 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE POLITICS 560 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:16,426 OUT OF IT YOU COULD SAY WITH THE 561 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:20,130 EMERGENCE OF ARTIFICIAL 562 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:21,898 INTELLIGENCE YOU COULD -- I'M 563 00:18:21,901 --> 00:18:23,333 ONLY BEING HALF FACETIOUS. 564 00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:25,034 YOU COULD HAVE AN ALGORITHM THAT 565 00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:27,337 WOULD BE A STARTING POINT. 566 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:28,171 OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE WILL SAY 567 00:18:28,174 --> 00:18:30,106 HUMANS WRITE THE ALGORITHMS AND 568 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:35,011 THAT'S TRUE, BUT IF YOU WANTED 569 00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:36,613 TO HAVE A STARTING POINT WHERE 570 00:18:36,616 --> 00:18:37,280 IT'S BLINDLY POPULATION CENTERS 571 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:40,951 AND THE NOTION OF HAVING 572 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:43,119 CONTIGUOUS AREAS AND THOSE TYPES 573 00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:44,587 OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A 574 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,455 STARTING POINT. 575 00:18:46,458 --> 00:18:47,057 >> THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. 576 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:47,957 >>>LAWMAKERS WILL WRITE A NEW, 577 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,493 TWO-YEAR STATE BUDGET THIS 578 00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:51,461 SESSION - AND IT'S NOT NEARLY AS 579 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:52,428 ROSY AS ANYONE WOULD HAVE HOPED. 580 00:18:52,431 --> 00:18:54,397 AS WE TAPE THIS, WE DON'T KNOW 581 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,198 WHAT THE LATEST REVENUE FORECAST 582 00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:56,366 LOOKS LIKE...BUT IT'S LIKELY 583 00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:58,067 LEGISLATORS WILL HAVE TO MAKE 584 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:58,802 PLENTY OF TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT 585 00:18:58,805 --> 00:18:59,936 SPENDING THE NEXT COUPLE OF 586 00:18:59,939 --> 00:19:04,340 YEARS AS THE PANDEMIC HAS 587 00:19:04,343 --> 00:19:06,343 WREAKED HAVOC ON STATE FINANCES. 588 00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:07,677 GOVERNOR HOLCOMB WAS ABLE TO 589 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,311 ENSURE K-12 SCHOOLS GOT THEIR 590 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:10,580 FULL FUNDING FOR THE CURRENT 591 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,782 BUDGET YEAR. 592 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:14,050 HOWEVER...NIKI KELLY, WILL 593 00:19:14,053 --> 00:19:17,454 SCHOOLS BE SPARED THE KNIFE IN 594 00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:21,157 THE UPCOMING BUDGET? 595 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,758 WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY? 596 00:19:22,761 --> 00:19:26,096 >> IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD 597 00:19:26,099 --> 00:19:27,897 TO AVOID THAT. 598 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:31,668 MAYBE EVEN HOPING FOR STATUS QUO 599 00:19:31,671 --> 00:19:34,304 BUDGET WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION. 600 00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:36,173 OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU HAVE 601 00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:37,807 $7 MILLION A YEAR SPENT ON K-12 602 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,144 A 1 PERCENT INCREASE AS A AMOUNT 603 00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:42,912 OF MONEY TO FIND NEW REVENUE OR 604 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:44,714 TAKE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE. 605 00:19:44,717 --> 00:19:46,449 >> TO NIKI'S POINT IS A STATUS 606 00:19:46,452 --> 00:19:48,117 QUO BUDGET GETTING THE SAME 607 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,186 MONEY THEY GOT IN THE LAST STATE 608 00:19:49,189 --> 00:19:53,789 BUDGET IS THAT REALLY THE BEST 609 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:53,924 CASE SCENARIO FOR A LOT OF FO 610 00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:55,725 FOLKS? 611 00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:57,727 >> REALISTICALLY IT PROBABLY 612 00:19:57,730 --> 00:20:00,196 WOULD BE ABOUT AS GOOD AS WE 613 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,731 MIGHT EXPECT WHICH IS TOUGH 614 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:04,367 BECAUSE ONE COULD ARGUE IN THE 615 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:07,270 WAKE OF THE PANDEMIC THERE NEVER 616 00:20:07,273 --> 00:20:10,306 HAS BEEN A GREATER NEED FOR 617 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:13,076 EDUCATION FUNDING BECAUSE JUST 618 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:15,545 THE FATE OF THE PANEMIC WE HAVE 619 00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:18,114 KIDS WHO REALLY HAVE BEEN DEALT 620 00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:18,682 A SIGNIFICANT BLOW IN THEIR 621 00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:21,284 FUNDAMENTAL SKILL DEVELOPMENT 622 00:20:21,287 --> 00:20:23,352 ESPECIALLY IN THE PRIMARY GRADES 623 00:20:23,355 --> 00:20:23,586 WITH MATH AND BASIC ENGLISH AND 624 00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:27,090 GRAMMAR. 625 00:20:27,093 --> 00:20:28,825 YOU WOULD ARGUE IF EVER THERE 626 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:30,927 WAS A TIME TO BUMP IT UP THIS 627 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:32,529 WOULD BE IT BUT THAT WISH AND 628 00:20:32,532 --> 00:20:35,765 THE REALITY OF TIGHT BUDGETS 629 00:20:35,768 --> 00:20:36,465 WILL UNDOUBTEDLY COLLIDE. 630 00:20:36,468 --> 00:20:38,501 >> THAT'S THE CASE WITH A LOT OF 631 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:39,902 ISSUES WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY 632 00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:41,238 FOCUSED ON LOOKING FOR BROADBAND 633 00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:43,540 AND WHERE TO FIND THE MONEY FOR 634 00:20:43,543 --> 00:20:43,840 THAT WHEN YOU NEED IT MORE THAN 635 00:20:43,843 --> 00:20:46,509 EVER. 636 00:20:46,512 --> 00:20:49,145 JENNIFER HOLLOWELL AS WE LOOK 637 00:20:49,148 --> 00:20:49,912 AHEAD TO THE STATE BUDGET HOW 638 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:51,948 MUCH WILL END UP BEING 639 00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:54,117 DETERMINED BY WHETHER OR NOT WE 640 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:55,852 GET MORE FEDERAL RELIEF AND WHEN 641 00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:59,856 I SAY FEDERAL RELIEF DIRECTLY TO 642 00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:01,591 STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 643 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:04,494 >> THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR 644 00:21:04,497 --> 00:21:07,397 AND CERTAINLY WHERE SHOULD THAT 645 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,501 THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON COULD 646 00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:11,935 COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD 647 00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:12,268 HELP STATE AND LOCAL 648 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:13,470 COMMUNITIES. 649 00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:15,538 WE CLEARLY NEED MORE COVID 650 00:21:15,541 --> 00:21:16,005 RELIEF FUNDING AND THE SOONER 651 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:22,111 THE BETTER. 652 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,681 I WILL SAY KEEP IN MIND GOV. 653 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:26,683 ERIC HOLCOMB AND THE REPUBLICAN 654 00:21:26,686 --> 00:21:28,718 GENERAL ASSEMBLY INCREASE THE 655 00:21:28,721 --> 00:21:31,855 K-12 EDUCATION BUDGET IN THE 656 00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:34,824 LAST CYCLE BY $760 MILLION WHICH 657 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,459 IS GREAT AND CERTAINLY A GOOD 658 00:21:36,462 --> 00:21:38,361 PLACE TO START. 659 00:21:38,364 --> 00:21:40,830 THE GOVERNOR HAS STATED THAT 660 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:44,367 EDUCATION IS A PRIORITY, THE 661 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:45,702 HOUSE SPEAKER AS AS WELL AS THE 662 00:21:45,705 --> 00:21:48,104 SENATOR PRO TEM SO IT'S GOING TO 663 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:49,105 BE A TOP PRIORITY BUT WE ARE 664 00:21:49,108 --> 00:21:51,441 GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME 665 00:21:51,444 --> 00:21:52,041 DECISIONS AND IT'S GOING TO BE A 666 00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:55,578 REALLY DIFFICULT BUDGET CYCLE 667 00:21:55,581 --> 00:21:58,814 AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO 668 00:21:58,817 --> 00:22:00,150 BE DISAPPOINTED. 669 00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:01,317 >> ANN DELANEY IF EDUCATION 670 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,519 SIMPLY CAN'T GET A BUDGET 671 00:22:03,522 --> 00:22:05,521 INCREASE IN THE NEXT TWO-YEAR 672 00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:07,523 STATE BUDGET IS IT HARD TO BLAME 673 00:22:07,526 --> 00:22:10,226 LAWMAKERS FOR THAT? 674 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:13,596 >> I THINK IT IS. 675 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:15,699 THE ENTIRE YEAR BUDGET IS 676 00:22:15,702 --> 00:22:16,833 CONFIRMED BY SPENDING AND IT'S 677 00:22:16,836 --> 00:22:19,168 ALSO BEEN DETERMINED BY REVENUE 678 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:21,104 AND WASHINGTON SHOULD HELP AND 679 00:22:21,107 --> 00:22:22,906 LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR THE 680 00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:25,508 DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE PROPOSE 681 00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:25,742 FUNDING FOR LOCAL AND STATE 682 00:22:25,745 --> 00:22:27,510 BUDGETS. 683 00:22:27,513 --> 00:22:28,945 IT'S MITCH MCCONNELL WHO WON'T 684 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:30,346 LET THAT OCCUR. 685 00:22:30,349 --> 00:22:32,315 NUMBER ONE. 686 00:22:32,318 --> 00:22:32,548 NUMBER TWO THERE ARE REVENUE 687 00:22:32,551 --> 00:22:35,084 SOURCES. 688 00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:38,087 THAT IS THERE. 689 00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:42,091 WE COULD ROLLBACK THAT THE 690 00:22:42,094 --> 00:22:43,092 INCOME TAX MIKE PENCE PUT IN AND 691 00:22:43,095 --> 00:22:45,161 THE CORPORATE TAX THAT'S GOING 692 00:22:45,164 --> 00:22:45,895 THROUGH. 693 00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:47,497 THERE ARE WAYS TO INCREASE 694 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:48,498 REVENUE. 695 00:22:48,501 --> 00:22:49,165 THE GOVERNOR HAD PROMISED 696 00:22:49,168 --> 00:22:52,435 TEACHERS NOT JUST THAT THEY 697 00:22:52,438 --> 00:22:54,404 WOULD BE, TOLD BUT THAT WE WOULD 698 00:22:54,407 --> 00:22:54,971 ACTUALLY BEGIN TO FUND THEM 699 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:57,974 COMMENSURATE WITH THEIR 700 00:22:57,977 --> 00:22:59,509 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS AND IF YOU 701 00:22:59,512 --> 00:23:01,577 ARE GOING TO FLAT LINE OR CUT 702 00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:09,252 THE BUDGET YOU WILL NOT DO THAT 703 00:23:09,255 --> 00:23:15,492 AND THAT'S INEXCUSABLE. 704 00:23:15,495 --> 00:23:17,227 AND STOCKING OR HOUSES AND IT 705 00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:19,262 DOESN'T REQUIRE THE STATE HAVE 706 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:25,468 THE INPUT AND IF THE GOVERNOR 707 00:23:25,471 --> 00:23:26,269 FAILS TO LIVE UP TO HIS PROMISE 708 00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:27,404 YES. 709 00:23:27,407 --> 00:23:28,805 >> LET'S NOT FORGET TEACHER 710 00:23:28,808 --> 00:23:31,073 SALARY NOT DETERMINED BY THE 711 00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:34,310 STATE BUT THE LOCAL SCHOOLS. 712 00:23:34,313 --> 00:23:38,681 >> IT'S DETERMINED BY WAYS TO 713 00:23:38,684 --> 00:23:41,384 MAKE IT DETERMINED BY THE STATE. 714 00:23:41,387 --> 00:23:41,951 >> THEY HAVE RESISTED. 715 00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:42,719 THEY'VE RESISTED DOING THAT. 716 00:23:42,722 --> 00:23:43,319 VERY QUICKLY ... 717 00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:43,953 >>>2020 BROUGHT A RENEWED FOCUS 718 00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:44,654 ON RACIAL INEQUITY AND POLICE 719 00:23:44,657 --> 00:23:45,655 VIOLENCE IN THE WAKE OF THE 720 00:23:45,658 --> 00:23:46,789 KILLINGS OF GEORGE FLOYD AND 721 00:23:46,792 --> 00:23:47,657 BREONNA TAYLOR, AMONG OTHERS. 722 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:49,124 IT'S PROMPTED THE INDIANA BLACK 723 00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:49,626 LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS TO DEVELOP AN 724 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:51,828 EVEN MORE ROBUST AGENDA FOR 725 00:23:51,831 --> 00:23:53,229 2021. 726 00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:54,864 AND REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE 727 00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:55,898 GREG STEUERWALD IS PRIVATELY 728 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:56,499 WORKING ON WHAT HOPES TO BE A 729 00:23:56,502 --> 00:23:59,068 CONSENSUS AGENDA FOR POLICE 730 00:23:59,071 --> 00:24:00,169 REFORM ISSUES. 731 00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:02,305 ANN DELANEY, WILL WE SEE THE 732 00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:04,207 GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASS ANY POLICE 733 00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:05,508 REFORM LEGISLATION IN 2021...AND 734 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:10,613 IF IT DOES, WILL IT BE SOMETHING 735 00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:12,782 THE BLACK CAUCUS WILL SUPPORT? 736 00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:14,918 VERY QUICKLY. 737 00:24:14,921 --> 00:24:17,487 >> I THINK THE REPRESENTATIVE IS 738 00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:18,288 WORKING HARD TO COME UP WITH A 739 00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:20,523 COMPROMISE SOLUTION THAT I THINK 740 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:23,526 IT WILL NOT BE EVERYTHING THE 741 00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:25,194 BLACK CAUCUS WANTS BUT WILL BE 742 00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:26,462 AN IMPROVEMENT. 743 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:27,530 WE HAVE TO GET REPUBLICAN RURAL 744 00:24:27,533 --> 00:24:29,532 LEGISLATURES TO SAY IT LET THE 745 00:24:29,535 --> 00:24:31,534 CITIES DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM. 746 00:24:31,537 --> 00:24:33,936 THIS IS PART OF THE DIFFICULTY. 747 00:24:33,939 --> 00:24:37,740 THEY WANT TO INTRUDE THEMSELVES 748 00:24:37,743 --> 00:24:38,541 ON HOW DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF 749 00:24:38,544 --> 00:24:40,543 RACIAL INEQUALITY IN THE 750 00:24:40,546 --> 00:24:41,478 CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND 751 00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:42,812 THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. 752 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,881 LET THE LOCALS DEAL WITH THIS 753 00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:47,283 AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEM WILL GO 754 00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:48,151 AWAY AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO 755 00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:51,087 CAST THE TERRIBLE VOTES. 756 00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:53,823 THAT WOULD BE THE WAY THE BLACK 757 00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:55,858 CAUCUS SHOULD HAVE THIS HAPPEN. 758 00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:57,093 >> JENNIFER HOLLOWELL WILL THERE 759 00:24:57,096 --> 00:24:59,762 BE POLICE REFORM LEGISLATION THE 760 00:24:59,765 --> 00:25:02,832 KIND THE BLACK OFFICE WOULD 761 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:03,867 SUPPORT? 762 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:05,435 >> ROBUST DISCUSSION WILL BE HAD 763 00:25:05,438 --> 00:25:07,103 AROUND THIS. 764 00:25:07,106 --> 00:25:10,306 I DO THINK SOMETHING WILL PASS 765 00:25:10,309 --> 00:25:11,574 AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT WILL BE 766 00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:15,511 MORE THAN WHAT ANYONE COULD HAVE 767 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,280 IMAGINED A YEAR AGO AND ALSO I 768 00:25:17,283 --> 00:25:18,448 WOULD JUST POINT OUT GOVERNOR 769 00:25:18,451 --> 00:25:19,848 HOLCOMB HAS TAKEN STEPS WITH THE 770 00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:24,387 STATE POLICE TO MAKE CHANGES AT 771 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:26,589 THE STATE LEVEL. 772 00:25:26,592 --> 00:25:28,157 >> AT THE STATE POLICE ACADEMY. 773 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:28,457 >>>THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 774 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:29,058 FOR THIS WEEK. 775 00:25:29,061 --> 00:25:29,992 OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 776 00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,661 DELANEY, 777 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:32,962 REPUBLICAN JENNIFER HALLOWELL 778 00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:33,963 JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 779 00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:35,398 LAWMAKERS AND 780 00:25:35,401 --> 00:25:36,533 NIKI KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE 781 00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:38,334 JOURNAL GAZETTE. 782 00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:41,871 IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 783 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:43,072 PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 784 00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:44,474 WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 785 00:25:44,477 --> 00:25:45,608 YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 786 00:25:45,611 --> 00:25:47,910 DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 787 00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:49,245 WFYI APP. 788 00:25:49,248 --> 00:25:55,084 I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 789 00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:57,353 PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 790 00:25:57,356 --> 00:25:57,687 STAYS SAFE, STAY HEALTHY, HAPPY 791 00:25:57,690 --> 00:25:58,354 NEW YEAR AND 792 00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:05,194 JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 793 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:26,449 CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK.