WEBVTT 00:02.969 --> 00:07.171 align:start ♪ 00:07.174 --> 00:07.638 align:start LAWMAKERS DELAY THEIR UPCOMING 00:07.641 --> 00:08.840 align:start SPECIAL SESSION. 00:08.843 --> 00:10.408 align:start THE FIRST MAJOR FEDERAL GUN BILL 00:10.411 --> 00:11.642 align:start IN DECADES SIGNED INTO LAW. 00:11.645 --> 00:14.979 align:start PLUS, NEW LAWS TAKE EFFECT AND 00:14.982 --> 00:16.014 align:start MORE ON INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 00:16.017 --> 00:24.822 align:start FOR THE WEEK ENDING JULY 1, 00:24.825 --> 00:25.556 align:start 2022. 00:25.559 --> 00:27.425 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 00:27.428 --> 00:29.360 align:start MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 00:29.363 --> 00:32.496 align:start OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 00:32.499 --> 00:33.164 align:start STATIONS. 00:33.167 --> 00:34.198 align:start ABORTION WILL BE LEGAL IN 00:34.201 --> 00:34.732 align:start INDIANA FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 00:34.735 --> 00:35.333 align:start MONTH AFTER A SPECIAL SESSION 00:35.336 --> 00:35.933 align:start FOR INFLATION RELIEF AND 00:35.936 --> 00:40.071 align:start ABORTION HAS BEEN DELAYED UNTIL 00:40.074 --> 00:41.406 align:start JULY 25. 00:41.409 --> 00:42.006 align:start THE GOVERNOR LAST WEEK CALLED A 00:42.009 --> 00:45.142 align:start SPECIAL SESSION FOR JULY 6 TO 00:45.145 --> 00:45.743 align:start ENACT HIS INFLATION RELIEF 00:45.746 --> 00:47.145 align:start PROPOSAL THAT SENDS 225 DOLLARS 00:47.148 --> 00:50.915 align:start TO ANYONE WHO FILED TAXES IN 00:50.918 --> 00:52.016 align:start INDIANA LAST YEAR. 00:52.019 --> 00:52.883 align:start AFTER THE US SUPREME COURT'S 00:52.886 --> 00:53.484 align:start RULING STRIKING DOWN ABORTION 00:53.487 --> 00:55.786 align:start RIGHTS, THE LEGISLATURE WAS 00:55.789 --> 00:59.023 align:start EXPECTED TO INCLUDE AN ABORTION 00:59.026 --> 01:00.491 align:start BAN IN THAT SPECIAL SESSION. 01:00.494 --> 01:02.293 align:start THEY WILL•BUT NOT NEXT WEEK. IN 01:02.296 --> 01:03.995 align:start A STATEMENT, HOUSE SPEAKER TODD 01:03.998 --> 01:05.463 align:start HUSTON SAYS BECAUSE OF THE 01:05.466 --> 01:07.465 align:start INCREASED AGENDA, "LEADERS ARE 01:07.468 --> 01:08.966 align:start ANTICIPATING A MULTI-WEEK 01:08.969 --> 01:10.234 align:start SPECIAL SESSION VERSUS ONE OR 01:10.237 --> 01:11.436 align:start TWO DAYS." FOR LOGISTICAL 01:11.439 --> 01:13.971 align:start REASONS, HE SAYS, THEY DECIDED 01:13.974 --> 01:17.308 align:start TO HOLD OFF STARTING THEIR WORK 01:17.311 --> 01:18.075 align:start UNTIL THE LAST WEEK OF JULY. 01:18.078 --> 01:19.443 align:start THE INDIANA DEMOCRATIC PARTY 01:19.446 --> 01:21.112 align:start ACCUSED REPUBLICANS OF "WAITING 01:21.115 --> 01:22.813 align:start FOR THE DUST TO SETTLE" IN THE 01:22.816 --> 01:23.413 align:start AFTERMATH OF THE SUPREME COURT'S 01:23.416 --> 01:26.016 align:start RULING BEFORE TRYING TO BAN 01:26.019 --> 01:26.651 align:start ABORTION. 01:26.654 --> 01:28.452 align:start WHY THE DELAY? 01:28.455 --> 01:30.188 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 01:30.191 --> 01:31.655 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL 01:31.658 --> 01:34.425 align:start DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY 01:34.428 --> 01:35.593 align:start REPUBLICAN JOEY FOX 01:35.596 --> 01:37.494 align:start JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 01:37.497 --> 01:38.863 align:start LAWMAKERS AND 01:38.866 --> 01:40.998 align:start NIKI KELLY, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF 01:41.001 --> 01:42.900 align:start THE INDIANA CAPITOL CHRONICLE 01:42.903 --> 01:47.571 align:start I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 01:47.574 --> 01:54.545 align:start DIGITAL EDITOR LAUREN CHAPMAN, 01:54.548 --> 01:56.180 align:start IN FOR BRANDON SMITH THIS WEEK. 01:56.183 --> 01:56.780 align:start ANN DELANEY, LAWMAKERS HAVE HAD 01:56.783 --> 01:57.381 align:start AT LEAST TWO MONTHS SINCE A 01:57.384 --> 01:58.081 align:start SUPREME COURT RULING ON ABORTION 01:58.084 --> 02:01.852 align:start WAS LEAKED TO PREPARE FOR THIS. 02:01.855 --> 02:03.721 align:start WHY THE DELAY? 02:03.724 --> 02:05.456 align:start >> THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CAUCUSES 02:05.459 --> 02:08.659 align:start WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS. 02:08.662 --> 02:08.926 align:start THEY HAVE THE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY 02:08.929 --> 02:10.294 align:start CAUCUS. 02:10.297 --> 02:11.395 align:start THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT IN THE 02:11.398 --> 02:13.063 align:start MIDDLE. 02:13.066 --> 02:14.832 align:start ACTUALLY, IT'S JUST THE CRAZIES 02:14.835 --> 02:16.867 align:start AND A LITTLE BIT IN THE MIDDLE. 02:16.870 --> 02:18.269 align:start YOU'LL HAVE REPUBLICAN 02:18.272 --> 02:21.272 align:start LEGISLATURES WHO WILL ARGUE THAT 02:21.275 --> 02:21.572 align:start ABORTION IS MURDER IN EVERY 02:21.575 --> 02:25.309 align:start CIRCUMSTANCE. 02:25.312 --> 02:27.278 align:start DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S INCEST OR 02:27.281 --> 02:30.881 align:start RAPE OR HEALTH OF THE MOTHER. 02:30.884 --> 02:32.316 align:start THEY WANT THE MOST EGREGIOUS 02:32.319 --> 02:33.617 align:start LEGISLATION LIKE TEXAS AND 02:33.620 --> 02:35.019 align:start MISSOURI HAVE AND THEN YOU HAVE 02:35.022 --> 02:40.724 align:start PEOPLE A LITTLE MORE MODERATE 02:40.727 --> 02:42.993 align:start WHO WANT TO CAR — CARVE OUT 02:42.996 --> 02:44.328 align:start EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE AND INCEST 02:44.331 --> 02:46.664 align:start AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. 02:46.667 --> 02:50.935 align:start THEY CAN'T RECONCILE THAT. 02:50.938 --> 02:54.538 align:start IF IT'S MURDER, THEN A PERSON 02:54.541 --> 02:58.075 align:start IS, THEN THE FETUS IS A PERSON 02:58.078 --> 03:02.546 align:start FROM CONCEPTION. 03:02.549 --> 03:04.982 align:start THEN WHY AREN'T THERE DOMESTIC 03:04.985 --> 03:06.951 align:start SUPPORT ORDERS. 03:06.954 --> 03:11.289 align:start BUT YOU'LL HAVE GIRLS WHO ARE 03:11.292 --> 03:11.489 align:start TOLD TO CARRY THE BABY OR GO TO 03:11.492 --> 03:13.424 align:start JUVIE. 03:13.427 --> 03:19.096 align:start AND YOU'LL HAVE OLDER GIRLS WHO 03:19.099 --> 03:24.869 align:start ARE TOLD THEY'RE MURDERERS IF 03:24.872 --> 03:25.269 align:start THEY DON'T CARRY THE BABY TO 03:25.272 --> 03:26.003 align:start TERM. 03:26.006 --> 03:27.638 align:start IT'S HORRIBLE THAT THEY'RE 03:27.641 --> 03:30.641 align:start FORCING THEIR RELIGIOUS VIEWS ON 03:30.644 --> 03:31.208 align:start THE POPULATION OF INDIANA WHEN 03:31.211 --> 03:31.942 align:start THE POPULATION OF INDIANA 03:31.945 --> 03:32.910 align:start DOESN'T AGREE. 03:32.913 --> 03:35.112 align:start I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO 03:35.115 --> 03:36.513 align:start DO IS COME TO A CONSENSUS AMONG 03:36.516 --> 03:38.816 align:start THEMSELVES OF WHAT THIS 03:38.819 --> 03:39.049 align:start LEGISLATION WILL LOOK LIKE GOING 03:39.052 --> 03:41.452 align:start FORWARD. 03:41.455 --> 03:43.721 align:start GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. 03:43.724 --> 03:43.988 align:start >> JOEY, TALKING ABOUT THAT 03:43.991 --> 03:45.723 align:start CONSENSUS. 03:45.726 --> 03:46.824 align:start EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNOR 03:46.827 --> 03:47.258 align:start SAID THERE WASN'T ANY RED LINE 03:47.261 --> 03:49.793 align:start FOR HIM. 03:49.796 --> 03:50.327 align:start WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT OUT OF 03:50.330 --> 03:53.064 align:start REPUBLICANS? 03:53.067 --> 03:56.600 align:start >> YOU SHOULD BE HEARTENED BY 03:56.603 --> 03:59.069 align:start THIS PROCESS, SINCE ROE V. WADE 03:59.072 --> 04:01.806 align:start WAS DECIDED HAS BEEN DEMOCRATIC 04:01.809 --> 04:04.742 align:start SINCE THAT DAY. 04:04.745 --> 04:05.876 align:start WE HAVE SPENT DECADES TALKING 04:05.879 --> 04:08.346 align:start ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 04:08.349 --> 04:08.612 align:start WINNING MAJORITIES TIME AND TIME 04:08.615 --> 04:09.613 align:start AGAIN. 04:09.616 --> 04:10.748 align:start AND THEY'VE GIVEN THE 04:10.751 --> 04:13.751 align:start OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS QUESTION TO 04:13.754 --> 04:16.687 align:start BE DECIDED AT A DEMOCRATIC LEVEL 04:16.690 --> 04:16.954 align:start BY THE STATE. 04:16.957 --> 04:17.821 align:start [LAUGHTER] 04:17.824 --> 04:19.890 align:start >> DEMOCRATIC LEVEL. 04:19.893 --> 04:23.527 align:start >> I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS IS 04:23.530 --> 04:26.330 align:start GOING TO BE DELAYED A COUPLE 04:26.333 --> 04:27.632 align:start MORE WEEKS TO DEBATE WHAT ARE 04:27.635 --> 04:29.500 align:start TRULY LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES IS 04:29.503 --> 04:31.702 align:start TO THE CREDIT OF REPUBLICAN 04:31.705 --> 04:34.972 align:start LEADER AND WE SHOULD HAVE IT AT 04:34.975 --> 04:35.506 align:start A LOCAL LEVEL LIKE IT DID 40 04:35.509 --> 04:37.708 align:start YEARS AGO. 04:37.711 --> 04:38.942 align:start >> IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE 04:38.945 --> 04:40.444 align:start DEBATE, THEY SHOULD TAKE THE 04:40.447 --> 04:40.678 align:start DEBATE AROUND THE STATE TO GET 04:40.681 --> 04:41.579 align:start INPUT. 04:41.582 --> 04:43.747 align:start THEY'RE NOT DOING IT. 04:43.750 --> 04:44.782 align:start THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL THE 04:44.785 --> 04:46.684 align:start IMPORTANT DECISIONS LIKE THEY 04:46.687 --> 04:48.118 align:start ALWAYS DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS 04:48.121 --> 04:48.385 align:start ONCE THEY GET CONSENSUS 04:48.388 --> 04:49.987 align:start TOGETHER. 04:49.990 --> 04:51.622 align:start THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. 04:51.625 --> 04:54.191 align:start IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 04:54.194 --> 05:01.699 align:start FAIRNESS OR DEMOCRACY. 05:01.702 --> 05:05.002 align:start >> THAT'S ARI — A RIDICULOUS 05:05.005 --> 05:08.205 align:start ARGUMENT. 05:08.208 --> 05:09.807 align:start >> THE IT GUARANTEES THAT YOU 05:09.810 --> 05:12.409 align:start WILL HAVE ABORTION OUTLAWED AND 05:12.412 --> 05:14.178 align:start IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE 05:14.181 --> 05:15.145 align:start VOTERS WANT AT ALL. 05:15.148 --> 05:19.316 align:start >> PICK YOUR ARGUMENT. 05:19.319 --> 05:21.218 align:start YOU'RE GOING IN CIRCLES. 05:21.221 --> 05:26.457 align:start >> I DID. 05:26.460 --> 05:28.592 align:start >> GERRYMAMDERING. 05:28.595 --> 05:29.260 align:start BUT THEN YOU ARE MAKING AN 05:29.263 --> 05:30.627 align:start ARGUMENT. 05:30.630 --> 05:31.929 align:start >> THAT IS EXACTLY WHY YOUR 05:31.932 --> 05:33.731 align:start DECISIONS, YOUR DECISIONS ARE 05:33.734 --> 05:34.865 align:start MADE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH NO 05:34.868 --> 05:35.866 align:start REAL DEBATE. 05:35.869 --> 05:38.602 align:start THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. 05:38.605 --> 05:39.470 align:start >> ELECTED OFFICIALS. 05:39.473 --> 05:40.804 align:start >> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 05:40.807 --> 05:46.377 align:start SOME OF THE TRANSPARENCY. 05:46.380 --> 05:48.145 align:start A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE BEEN 05:48.148 --> 05:49.780 align:start SHOPPED OUT THAT REPUBLICANS ARE 05:49.783 --> 05:50.814 align:start HAVING LONGER SPACE TO HAVE MORE 05:50.817 --> 05:53.851 align:start TIME TO LISTEN TO FOLKS. 05:53.854 --> 05:55.453 align:start DO YOU THINK THIS DELAY WILL 05:55.456 --> 05:56.487 align:start HAVE ANY MORE LEVEL OF 05:56.490 --> 05:59.323 align:start TRANSPARENCY? 05:59.326 --> 06:00.390 align:start >> IT'S UNFOLDING ON TWO LEVELS 06:00.393 --> 06:02.192 align:start AND WE'RE HEARING BOTH LAYERS 06:02.195 --> 06:03.327 align:start NOW AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE 06:03.330 --> 06:05.162 align:start BOTH RIGHT OR BOTH WRONG. 06:05.165 --> 06:08.198 align:start HERE IS WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. 06:08.201 --> 06:09.900 align:start CERTAINLY THE OPTICS OF ANY 06:09.903 --> 06:12.035 align:start LEGISLATIVE DELIBERATIVE BODY 06:12.038 --> 06:14.405 align:start WOULD BE ENHANCED BY FOLLOWING 06:14.408 --> 06:14.738 align:start THE RULES SET FORTH BY THOSE 06:14.741 --> 06:16.874 align:start BODIES. 06:16.877 --> 06:18.609 align:start AND A ONE OR TWO DAY SPECIAL 06:18.612 --> 06:20.010 align:start SESSION WOULD HAVE REQUIRED BY 06:20.013 --> 06:22.747 align:start DEFINITION A SUSPENSION OF THE 06:22.750 --> 06:33.757 align:start RULES THAT THE HOUSE AND SENATE 06:33.760 --> 06:34.225 align:start PUT IN PLACE TO GUARANTEE PUBLIC 06:34.228 --> 06:35.826 align:start INPUT. 06:35.829 --> 06:39.897 align:start TO MAKE SURE THE VOTERS KNOW 06:39.900 --> 06:42.166 align:start WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR. 06:42.169 --> 06:43.901 align:start WE'VE SEEN BILLS RUSHED THROUGH 06:43.904 --> 06:47.738 align:start BEFORE OFTEN WITH ILL-EFFECT. 06:47.741 --> 06:49.774 align:start THEN YOU LAYER IN THE ISSUE OF 06:49.777 --> 06:50.908 align:start PUBLIC INPUT. 06:50.911 --> 06:52.910 align:start OPTICALLY, I THINK THIS IS 06:52.913 --> 06:55.813 align:start BETTER. 06:55.816 --> 06:56.246 align:start BUT LET'S NOT JOKE OR KID 06:56.249 --> 07:00.384 align:start OURSELVES. 07:00.387 --> 07:01.852 align:start AS ANN DOES, I THINK THERE IS 07:01.855 --> 07:04.321 align:start DISSENSION WITHIN THE RANKS. 07:04.324 --> 07:07.224 align:start IT'S A SUPER MAJORITY. 07:07.227 --> 07:10.194 align:start YOU HAVE LOTS OF VIEWS. 07:10.197 --> 07:12.896 align:start WE'VE SEEN REPUBLICANS SAY THEY 07:12.899 --> 07:15.232 align:start FAVOR EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, 07:15.235 --> 07:15.433 align:start INCEST, AND THE HEALTH OF THE 07:15.436 --> 07:16.500 align:start MOTHER. 07:16.503 --> 07:17.835 align:start OTHERS SAY NO. 07:17.838 --> 07:19.770 align:start REPUBLICANS HAVE FALLEN INTO THE 07:19.773 --> 07:20.704 align:start HABIT OF MAKING DECISIONS BEHIND 07:20.707 --> 07:23.207 align:start CLOSED DOORS. 07:23.210 --> 07:24.775 align:start I'M SURE IF DEMOCRATS HAD A 07:24.778 --> 07:25.442 align:start SUPERMAJORITY, THEY WOULD WANT 07:25.445 --> 07:27.244 align:start TO DO THE SAME. 07:27.247 --> 07:28.746 align:start BUT I THINK THE REPUBLICANS, IF 07:28.749 --> 07:30.481 align:start POSSIBLE, WOULD LIKE TO HASH 07:30.484 --> 07:32.950 align:start THIS OUT, KIND OF KEEP THE 07:32.953 --> 07:35.553 align:start UGLINESS OF THE DEBATE BEHIND 07:35.556 --> 07:37.888 align:start CLOSED DOORS SO THAT THEY CAN 07:37.891 --> 07:39.523 align:start COME FORTH WITH MORE OR LESS A 07:39.526 --> 07:41.025 align:start UNIFIED FRONT SO WHEN THEY DO 07:41.028 --> 07:45.295 align:start SOLICIT THE PUBLIC INPUT AND 07:45.298 --> 07:47.330 align:start THEY DO GO THROUGH THE NICETIES 07:47.333 --> 07:49.166 align:start OF A TRANSPARENT PROCESS, IT 07:49.169 --> 07:50.567 align:start JUST SEEMS NEATER AND CLEANER. 07:50.570 --> 07:52.102 align:start I THINK YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT TO A 07:52.105 --> 07:54.505 align:start CERTAIN EXTENT. 07:54.508 --> 07:56.073 align:start >> THANKS, JON. 07:56.076 --> 07:57.808 align:start >> NIKI, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF 07:57.811 --> 07:58.842 align:start WHAT LEGISLATION WILL LOOK LIKE 07:58.845 --> 07:59.243 align:start FROM LAWMAKERS? 07:59.246 --> 08:00.210 align:start >> WE DON'T. 08:00.213 --> 08:01.345 align:start AND THEY'RE NOT TALKING. 08:01.348 --> 08:01.612 align:start THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING PHONE 08:01.615 --> 08:04.748 align:start CALLS. 08:04.751 --> 08:06.049 align:start THEY'RE GIVING THE PLATITUDES OF 08:06.052 --> 08:07.284 align:start PROTECTING LIFE AND NOT GETTING 08:07.287 --> 08:09.319 align:start INTO THE DETAILS. 08:09.322 --> 08:10.820 align:start AS WE ALL KNOW THE DEVIL IS IN 08:10.823 --> 08:12.590 align:start THE DETAILS. 08:12.593 --> 08:13.790 align:start >> THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT 08:13.793 --> 08:15.459 align:start PROTECTING THE HEALTH OF WOMEN. 08:15.462 --> 08:17.595 align:start >> SOME ARE. 08:17.598 --> 08:19.730 align:start >> EVERYONE NOW IS CONSIDERING 08:19.733 --> 08:19.930 align:start THIS AN ABORTION SPECIAL 08:19.933 --> 08:22.232 align:start SESSION. 08:22.235 --> 08:23.334 align:start IT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED A 08:23.337 --> 08:25.435 align:start TAXPAYER REFUND. 08:25.438 --> 08:27.738 align:start I'M HEARING MORE DISSENSION ON 08:27.741 --> 08:28.372 align:start THAT ISSUE THAN THE ABORTION 08:28.375 --> 08:29.440 align:start ISSUE. 08:29.443 --> 08:30.774 align:start THE SENATE ESPECIALLY IS PUSHING 08:30.777 --> 08:31.108 align:start BACK ON THE IDEA OF A SECOND 08:31.111 --> 08:33.043 align:start REFUND. 08:33.046 --> 08:34.611 align:start THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE 08:34.614 --> 08:35.812 align:start TALKING GOING ON THAT TOPIC THAN 08:35.815 --> 08:38.282 align:start JUST THE ABORTION. 08:38.285 --> 08:40.751 align:start >> THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE. 08:40.754 --> 08:42.887 align:start WELL, THIS WEEK PRESIDENT JOE 08:42.890 --> 08:45.222 align:start BIDEN SIGNED INTO LAW THE FIRST 08:45.225 --> 08:47.324 align:start MAJOR GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION 08:47.327 --> 08:49.393 align:start PASSED BY CONGRESS IN NEARLY 30 08:49.396 --> 08:51.161 align:start YEARS. 08:51.164 --> 08:54.865 align:start INDIANA REPUBLICAN SENATORS 08:54.868 --> 09:00.203 align:start SPLIT ON THE BILL. 09:00.206 --> 09:00.771 align:start THE LEGISLATION 09:00.774 --> 09:03.507 align:start TODD YOUNG VOTING IN FAVOR AND 09:03.510 --> 09:04.574 align:start MIKE BRAUN VOTING AGAINST. 09:04.577 --> 09:05.142 align:start THE LEGISLATION INCLUDES 09:05.145 --> 09:05.776 align:start INCENTIVES FOR STATES TO PASS 09:05.779 --> 09:06.310 align:start SO-CALLED RED FLAG LAWS THAT 09:06.313 --> 09:06.977 align:start ALLOW GROUPS TO PETITION COURTS 09:06.980 --> 09:07.578 align:start TO REMOVE WEAPONS FROM PEOPLE 09:07.581 --> 09:08.311 align:start DEEMED A THREAT TO THEMSELVES OR 09:08.314 --> 09:08.512 align:start OTHERS. INDIANA ALREADY HAS ONE. 09:08.515 --> 09:09.112 align:start THE BILL 09:09.115 --> 09:09.680 align:start EXPANDS AN EXISTING LAW THAT 09:09.683 --> 09:10.314 align:start PREVENTS PEOPLE CONVICTED OF 09:10.317 --> 09:11.949 align:start DOMESTIC ABUSE FROM OWNING A GUN 09:11.952 --> 09:16.720 align:start TO INCLUDE DATING PARTNERS 09:16.723 --> 09:17.955 align:start RATHER THAN JUST SPOUSES AND 09:17.958 --> 09:18.956 align:start FORMER SPOUSES. AND IT EXPANDS 09:18.959 --> 09:19.557 align:start BACKGROUND CHECKS ON PEOPLE 09:19.560 --> 09:23.594 align:start BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 21 09:23.597 --> 09:24.227 align:start SEEKING TO BUY A GUN. 09:24.230 --> 09:24.861 align:start IN A 09:24.864 --> 09:25.863 align:start STATEMENT AFTER VOTING FOR THE 09:25.866 --> 09:27.064 align:start MEASURE, TODD YOUNG SAID, "WE 09:27.067 --> 09:28.799 align:start DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN 09:28.802 --> 09:30.667 align:start PROTECTING SECOND AMENDMENT 09:30.670 --> 09:31.335 align:start RIGHTS AND KEEPING GUNS AWAY 09:31.338 --> 09:32.002 align:start FROM THOSE WHO MIGHT BE A DANGER 09:32.005 --> 09:37.674 align:start TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. WE CAN 09:37.677 --> 09:38.275 align:start AND SHOULD DO BOTH." 09:38.278 --> 09:40.978 align:start JOEY FOX, ARE YOU SURPRISED BY 09:40.981 --> 09:41.211 align:start YOUNG'S VOTE? 09:41.214 --> 09:42.946 align:start >> NO. 09:42.949 --> 09:46.249 align:start I THINK THE QUOTE THAT YOU 09:46.252 --> 09:48.485 align:start PLAYED THERE AT THE END. 09:48.488 --> 09:49.720 align:start YOU CAN PROTECT THE SECOND 09:49.723 --> 09:51.521 align:start AMENDMENT AND YOU CAN BE 09:51.524 --> 09:53.991 align:start RESPONSIVE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS 09:53.994 --> 09:54.224 align:start AT THE SAME TIME ON WHAT THEY 09:54.227 --> 09:55.759 align:start WANT. 09:55.762 --> 09:57.060 align:start CERTAINLY, THE ADDITION OF RED 09:57.063 --> 09:59.463 align:start FLAG LAWS IN THIS IS PROBABLY 09:59.466 --> 10:01.131 align:start ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT 10:01.134 --> 10:02.499 align:start PIECES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE 10:02.502 --> 10:04.835 align:start STUDIES THEY'VE DONE OF 10:04.838 --> 10:07.137 align:start DIFFERENT PIECES OF POTENTIAL 10:07.140 --> 10:07.404 align:start GUN CONTROL MEASURES AND 10:07.407 --> 10:09.306 align:start LEGISLATION. 10:09.309 --> 10:12.376 align:start ALMOST ALL OF THEM WERE FOUND TO 10:12.379 --> 10:14.011 align:start DO PRACTICALLY NOTHING ON THE 10:14.014 --> 10:18.949 align:start MASS SHOOTING FRONT. 10:18.952 --> 10:21.318 align:start BUT WHAT THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH 10:21.321 --> 10:25.622 align:start DATA ON WERE RED FLAG LAWS. 10:25.625 --> 10:26.723 align:start AS A SECOND AMENDMENT SUPPORTER, 10:26.726 --> 10:28.458 align:start WERE MORE PREFERABLE BECAUSE 10:28.461 --> 10:31.762 align:start THEY HAVE JUDICIAL OUTLINES. 10:31.765 --> 10:35.165 align:start THERE IS A PROCESS AND YOU HAVE 10:35.168 --> 10:37.234 align:start THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET RIGHTS 10:37.237 --> 10:40.371 align:start RESTORED AND IT'S MUCH MORE FAIR 10:40.374 --> 10:42.773 align:start AND LESS DRACONIAN THAN MANY 10:42.776 --> 10:44.775 align:start DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE PREFERRED. 10:44.778 --> 10:45.008 align:start >> TO PUSH BACK ON THE RED FLAG 10:45.011 --> 10:52.616 align:start LAW. 10:52.619 --> 10:57.487 align:start WE HAD THE FEDEX SHOOTING. 10:57.490 --> 10:57.754 align:start >> WHEN THE MARIAN PROSECUTOR 10:57.757 --> 10:59.289 align:start REFUSES. 10:59.292 --> 11:01.258 align:start >> HE DOESN'T REFUSE. 11:01.261 --> 11:02.526 align:start >> IT'S NOT SURPRISING HE VOTED 11:02.529 --> 11:02.826 align:start FOR THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DO 11:02.829 --> 11:03.860 align:start ANYTHING. 11:03.863 --> 11:05.762 align:start THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT THING IT 11:05.765 --> 11:08.399 align:start DOES IS INCLUDE BOYFRIENDS IN 11:08.402 --> 11:11.135 align:start THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION. 11:11.138 --> 11:12.502 align:start THAT'S THE ONLY THING. THE RED 11:12.505 --> 11:16.106 align:start FLAG LAWS DON'T WORK. 11:16.109 --> 11:16.273 align:start YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO NOTIFY THE 11:16.276 --> 11:17.741 align:start JUDGE. 11:17.744 --> 11:19.443 align:start >> THERE'S NO DATA. 11:19.446 --> 11:20.177 align:start >> AND AFTER 48 HOURS YOU CAN GO 11:20.180 --> 11:21.445 align:start BUY A GUN. 11:21.448 --> 11:21.912 align:start THEN THE JUDGE HAS TO SET IT FOR 11:21.915 --> 11:23.447 align:start A HEARING. 11:23.450 --> 11:26.149 align:start THAT COULD BE 30 DAYS. 11:26.152 --> 11:28.685 align:start MEANWHILE NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE 11:28.688 --> 11:29.453 align:start NCIC AND YOU CAN GO OUT AND BUY 11:29.456 --> 11:32.589 align:start A GUN. 11:32.592 --> 11:34.257 align:start OR YOU CAN BUY A GUN IN INDIANA 11:34.260 --> 11:35.125 align:start AT ANY OF THE NON-FEDERALLY 11:35.128 --> 11:38.729 align:start LICENSED GUN DEALERS. 11:38.732 --> 11:39.129 align:start YOU CAN GET ALL THE GUNS YOU 11:39.132 --> 11:41.264 align:start POSSIBLY WANT. 11:41.267 --> 11:46.503 align:start THIS IS THE LEAST THEY COULD 11:46.506 --> 11:47.571 align:start POSSIBLY DO WHILE LOOKING TO 11:47.574 --> 11:49.372 align:start POSSIBLY DO SOMETHING. 11:49.375 --> 11:51.208 align:start IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, 11:51.211 --> 11:53.043 align:start YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE 11:53.046 --> 11:54.478 align:start 18-YEAR-OLDS BY AN ASSAULT 11:54.481 --> 11:55.011 align:start WEAPON WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO BUY 11:55.014 --> 11:56.980 align:start A BEER. 11:56.983 --> 11:59.182 align:start THE NRA HAS CONTROLLED 11:59.185 --> 12:01.852 align:start LEGISLATION IN THIS AREA AND NOW 12:01.855 --> 12:03.620 align:start WITH THE TRUMP APPOINTEES TO THE 12:03.623 --> 12:05.656 align:start SUPREME COURT, YOU HAVE YOUR 12:05.659 --> 12:07.424 align:start POLICE OFFICERS AT RISK WITH 12:07.427 --> 12:09.392 align:start CONCEALED WEAPONS EVERY PLACE. 12:09.395 --> 12:11.762 align:start NO LOCAL COMMUNITY CAN PASS A 12:11.765 --> 12:13.930 align:start LAW THAT DEALS EFFECTIVELY WITH 12:13.933 --> 12:14.898 align:start GUN CONTROL AND IT'S ALL DUE TO 12:14.901 --> 12:15.766 align:start REPUBLICANS BEING CONTROLLED BY 12:15.769 --> 12:18.502 align:start THE NRA. 12:18.505 --> 12:19.936 align:start I'M STARTING TO SEE SIGNS SAYING 12:19.939 --> 12:20.771 align:start PROTECT CHILDREN, NOT GUNS. 12:20.774 --> 12:23.874 align:start THEY'VE GONE TOO FAR. 12:23.877 --> 12:25.375 align:start WHEN WE HAD THE ASSAULT WEAPONS 12:25.378 --> 12:29.546 align:start BAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE A FRACTION 12:29.549 --> 12:30.881 align:start OF THE SHOOTINGS THAT WE HAVE. 12:30.884 --> 12:32.049 align:start THEY GET CONTROL OF THE CONGRESS 12:32.052 --> 12:37.121 align:start AND THEY REPEAL IT. 12:37.124 --> 12:38.121 align:start THEY'RE GOING TO OUTLAW ABORTION 12:38.124 --> 12:38.989 align:start ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 12:38.992 --> 12:40.957 align:start THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO. 12:40.960 --> 12:46.130 align:start THEY'RE SO EXTREME. 12:46.133 --> 12:46.530 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, MIKE BRAUN VOTED 12:46.533 --> 12:49.600 align:start AGAINST THIS. 12:49.603 --> 12:51.201 align:start IS THAT A SURPRISE? 12:51.204 --> 12:52.870 align:start >> NO, NOT I WASN'T SURPRISED BY 12:52.873 --> 12:55.405 align:start THAT AT ALL. 12:55.408 --> 12:56.740 align:start I WAS MORE SURPRISED BY TODD 12:56.743 --> 12:59.776 align:start YOUNG'S VOTE. 12:59.779 --> 13:01.445 align:start BUT HE HAS SHOWN MORE PENCHANT 13:01.448 --> 13:06.850 align:start TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE HARD-LINE 13:06.853 --> 13:08.418 align:start REPUBLICAN STANCES THAN BRAUN 13:08.421 --> 13:13.790 align:start HAS. 13:13.793 --> 13:16.193 align:start SOME MIGHT POINT TOWARD BRAUN'S 13:16.196 --> 13:19.396 align:start VOTE FOR A FUTURE RUN IN CASE HE 13:19.399 --> 13:21.131 align:start DECIDES NOT TO SEEK REELECTION. 13:21.134 --> 13:22.465 align:start >> JON, DOES THIS LEGISLATION 13:22.468 --> 13:31.141 align:start REALLY SAYING ABOUT THE CURRENT 13:31.144 --> 13:32.275 align:start STATE OF, OR THE CONGRESS' 13:32.278 --> 13:33.376 align:start APPETITE FOR GUN LEGISLATION? 13:33.379 --> 13:34.678 align:start >> I THINK THERE IS A 13:34.681 --> 13:37.781 align:start RECOGNITION ON THE PART OF 13:37.784 --> 13:44.521 align:start REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS, AND 13:44.524 --> 13:48.925 align:start LET'S USE MITCH Mc Mc — Mc 13:48.928 --> 13:49.926 align:start Mc MCCONNELL, THE SENATE 13:49.929 --> 13:52.662 align:start MAJORITY LEADER. 13:52.665 --> 13:53.964 align:start SORRY, MINORITY LEADER. 13:53.967 --> 13:54.164 align:start DIDN'T MEAN TO GIVE YOU A HEART 13:54.167 --> 13:58.468 align:start ATTACK. 13:58.471 --> 14:00.637 align:start THIS IS A GUY WITH A CAREER-LONG 14:00.640 --> 14:02.939 align:start A + RATING FROM THE NRA. 14:02.942 --> 14:03.373 align:start BUT HE SAID, THOUGH, IT IS 14:03.376 --> 14:08.745 align:start COMMON SENSE. 14:08.748 --> 14:10.247 align:start IT WILL HELP PROTECT THE 14:10.250 --> 14:12.782 align:start INNOCENT AND AT THE SAME TIME 14:12.785 --> 14:13.750 align:start PRESERVE VERY MUCH AND IN ITS 14:13.753 --> 14:15.952 align:start ENTIRETY THE SECOND AMENDMENT. 14:15.955 --> 14:16.219 align:start HE GAVE POLITICAL COVER TO OTHER 14:16.222 --> 14:20.690 align:start PEOPLE. 14:20.693 --> 14:22.893 align:start AND I THINK PART OF OF THAT 14:22.896 --> 14:24.094 align:start CALCULATION WAS THAT SELLS IN A 14:24.097 --> 14:26.062 align:start PRIMARY OR THE NOTION OF WHO IS 14:26.065 --> 14:28.097 align:start GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE OF A 14:28.100 --> 14:30.300 align:start GIVEN PARTY IS SOMEWHAT A 14:30.303 --> 14:34.604 align:start DIFFERENT EXERCISE COMPARED WITH 14:34.607 --> 14:37.040 align:start FACING THE ENTIRE ELECTORATE IN 14:37.043 --> 14:39.175 align:start A STATE LIKE INDIANA, AS IS THE 14:39.178 --> 14:46.316 align:start CASE WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER 14:46.319 --> 14:49.253 align:start STATE IN THE COUNTRY HAS HAD 14:49.256 --> 14:50.454 align:start MISFORTUNES AND EXPERIENCED 14:50.457 --> 14:53.657 align:start TRAGEDIES WITH MASS SHOOTINGS. 14:53.660 --> 14:56.526 align:start I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT 14:56.529 --> 15:02.666 align:start HOOSIERS PROBABLY WHILE THEY'RE 15:02.669 --> 15:04.501 align:start WILLING TO DID HE AL — GUARD THE 15:04.504 --> 15:06.403 align:start SECOND AMENDMENT RECOGNIZE THERE 15:06.406 --> 15:08.138 align:start SHOULD BE SOME EXCEPTIONS. 15:08.141 --> 15:10.440 align:start >> MAYBE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS OR 15:10.443 --> 15:10.741 align:start MAGAZINES WITH HUNDREDS OF 15:10.744 --> 15:12.208 align:start BULLETS. 15:12.211 --> 15:14.611 align:start >> MOST OF THE REPUBLICANS, 15:14.614 --> 15:16.146 align:start AMONG THE 15, THAT THREW THEIR 15:16.149 --> 15:17.814 align:start SUPPORT TO THIS ARE PEOPLE WHO 15:17.817 --> 15:19.416 align:start ARE EITHER RETIRING, ARE ALREADY 15:19.419 --> 15:20.417 align:start OUT OF THE MIX, OR NOT UP RIGHT 15:20.420 --> 15:23.553 align:start NOW. 15:23.556 --> 15:24.688 align:start SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S A 15:24.691 --> 15:24.888 align:start SURPRISE, THE SURPRISE IS TWO 15:24.891 --> 15:27.824 align:start THINGS. 15:27.827 --> 15:28.091 align:start ONE IS HE WAS VERY CAGEY THIS 15:28.094 --> 15:29.159 align:start TIME. 15:29.162 --> 15:30.193 align:start YOUNG WAS. 15:30.196 --> 15:30.493 align:start INTERVIEWS UP UNTIL 24 HOURS 15:30.496 --> 15:31.895 align:start BEFORE. 15:31.898 --> 15:32.695 align:start MAYBE I WILL, MAYBE I WON'T. 15:32.698 --> 15:33.897 align:start THAT'S ONE. 15:33.900 --> 15:36.400 align:start AND NUMBER TWO, HE IS ONE OF 15:36.403 --> 15:38.001 align:start ONLY TWO MEMBERS OF THE SENATE 15:38.004 --> 15:41.204 align:start WHO ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO BE ON 15:41.207 --> 15:42.739 align:start THE BALLOT THIS NEXT NOVEMBER 15:42.742 --> 15:44.841 align:start AND STILL TOOK THIS POSITION. 15:44.844 --> 15:46.576 align:start A LITTLE SURPRISING, BUT I THINK 15:46.579 --> 15:47.777 align:start FOR REASONS ARTICULATED HERE, IT 15:47.780 --> 15:49.980 align:start MAKES SENSE FOR HIM. 15:49.983 --> 15:51.948 align:start HE HASN'T BEEN AS BEHOLDEN TO 15:51.951 --> 15:53.049 align:start THE PARTY LINE AS. 15:53.052 --> 15:56.252 align:start >> HE TAKES A LOT OF MONEY FROM 15:56.255 --> 15:57.988 align:start THE NRA, THOUGH. 15:57.991 --> 15:59.122 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL KEEP 15:59.125 --> 16:02.759 align:start HIS A +. 16:02.762 --> 16:05.328 align:start >> THEY ALL DO. 16:05.331 --> 16:07.364 align:start >> TIME NOW FOR OUR VIEWER 16:07.367 --> 16:07.797 align:start FEEDBACK. 16:07.800 --> 16:08.331 align:start EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 16:08.334 --> 16:09.733 align:start UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 16:09.736 --> 16:10.334 align:start QUESTION. 16:10.337 --> 16:11.001 align:start THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: 16:11.004 --> 16:11.601 align:start ARE YOU SURPRISED U.S. SEN. TODD 16:11.604 --> 16:12.135 align:start YOUNG VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE 16:12.138 --> 16:12.336 align:start BIPARTISAN SENATE GUN BILL? 16:12.339 --> 16:12.802 align:start A. YES 16:12.805 --> 16:13.670 align:start B. NO 16:13.673 --> 16:14.271 align:start LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: 16:14.274 --> 16:15.405 align:start WAS DIEGO MORALES'S WIN AT THE 16:15.408 --> 16:21.745 align:start GOP CONVENTION A REBUKE OF GOV. 16:21.748 --> 16:24.080 align:start ERIC HOLCOMB? 16:24.083 --> 16:28.685 align:start 71% VOTED YES, 29% VOTED NO. 16:28.688 --> 16:29.352 align:start IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 16:29.355 --> 16:32.155 align:start IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 16:32.158 --> 16:33.356 align:start AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 16:33.359 --> 16:34.825 align:start A LOT OF VIEWERS AND LISTENERS 16:34.828 --> 16:36.360 align:start HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT INDIANA'S 16:36.363 --> 16:38.094 align:start NEW PERMITLESS HANDGUN CARRY 16:38.097 --> 16:39.329 align:start LAW, WHICH TAKES EFFECT THIS 16:39.332 --> 16:40.630 align:start WEEK. INDIANA PUBLIC 16:40.633 --> 16:43.367 align:start BROADCASTING'S BRANDON SMITH 16:43.370 --> 16:44.501 align:start ANSWERS SOME OF THE MOST COMMON 16:44.504 --> 16:52.209 align:start ABOUT WHAT THE LAW DOES AND 16:52.212 --> 16:52.843 align:start DOESN'T DO. 16:52.846 --> 16:53.443 align:start >> PREVIOUSLY, IF YOU WANTED TO 16:53.446 --> 16:54.011 align:start CARRY A HANDGUN IN PUBLIC IN 16:54.014 --> 16:54.644 align:start INDIANA, YOU NEEDED TO GET A 16:54.647 --> 16:55.245 align:start PERMIT FROM THE STATE TO DO SO. 16:55.248 --> 16:55.645 align:start STARTING FRIDAY, YOU NO LONGER 16:55.648 --> 16:56.446 align:start NEED THAT PERMIT. 16:56.449 --> 16:57.647 align:start THE NEW LAW DOES NOT IMPACT 16:57.650 --> 17:03.553 align:start BACKGROUND CHECKS WHEN YOU BUY A 17:03.556 --> 17:04.521 align:start GUN. IF SOMEONE PURCHASES A GUN 17:04.524 --> 17:06.589 align:start FROM WHAT'S KNOWN AS AN FFL, OR 17:06.592 --> 17:07.357 align:start DEALER, THEY UNDERGO A 17:07.360 --> 17:08.125 align:start BACKGROUND CHECK. THAT'S THE 17:08.128 --> 17:09.192 align:start MAJORITY OF GUN PURCHASES. 17:09.195 --> 17:13.530 align:start HOWEVER, IF YOU BUY A GUN IN A 17:13.533 --> 17:14.965 align:start PRIVATE SALE FROM SOMEONE WHO'S 17:14.968 --> 17:15.565 align:start NOT AN FFL DEALER, THERE IS NO 17:15.568 --> 17:16.199 align:start BACKGROUND CHECK. AND WITHOUT 17:16.202 --> 17:17.901 align:start THE CARRY PERMIT REQUIREMENT, 17:17.904 --> 17:19.703 align:start THERE WOULD NO LONGER BE ANY 17:19.706 --> 17:20.704 align:start BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE CARRYING 17:20.707 --> 17:21.771 align:start A HANDGUN IN PUBLIC. 17:21.774 --> 17:24.741 align:start THE LAW ALSO DOESN'T IMPACT OPEN 17:24.744 --> 17:26.142 align:start VERSUS CONCEALED CARRY IN 17:26.145 --> 17:27.343 align:start INDIANA. THE PERMIT SYSTEM 17:27.346 --> 17:29.179 align:start ALLOWED YOU TO CARRY A HANDGUN 17:29.182 --> 17:29.879 align:start IN PUBLIC, WHETHER YOU DID IT 17:29.882 --> 17:31.047 align:start OPENLY OR CONCEALED IT. THE NEW 17:31.050 --> 17:33.350 align:start LAW SIMPLY MEANS PEOPLE CAN 17:33.353 --> 17:34.384 align:start CARRY THEIR HANDGUN IN PUBLIC 17:34.387 --> 17:38.888 align:start WITHOUT A PERMIT•WHETHER OPEN OR 17:38.891 --> 17:39.622 align:start CONCEALED. 17:39.625 --> 17:40.390 align:start >> NIKI KELLY, DO YOU THINK MOST 17:40.393 --> 17:43.626 align:start PEOPLE WILL NOTICE THE LAW HAS 17:43.629 --> 17:45.061 align:start CHANGED? 17:45.064 --> 17:46.196 align:start >> NO, I MEAN I THINK THERE'S 17:46.199 --> 17:48.065 align:start PROBABLY A SMALL NUMBER OF 17:48.068 --> 17:52.102 align:start PEOPLE WHO WILL BE EXCITED TO BE 17:52.105 --> 17:53.436 align:start ABLE TO CARRY WITHOUT THE PERMIT 17:53.439 --> 17:54.704 align:start AS LONG AS THEY ARE STILL 17:54.707 --> 17:55.505 align:start CONSIDERED A PROPER PERSON. 17:55.508 --> 17:57.541 align:start THOSE RULES STILL APPLY. 17:57.544 --> 17:58.608 align:start I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO WILL 17:58.611 --> 17:58.975 align:start REALLY NOTICE ARE THE POLICE 17:58.978 --> 17:59.342 align:start OFFICERS. 17:59.345 --> 18:01.878 align:start >> YEAH. 18:01.881 --> 18:03.246 align:start >> AND EVERY TIME THEY PULL 18:03.249 --> 18:04.948 align:start SOMEONE OVER, I THINK IF THERE 18:04.951 --> 18:07.650 align:start WAS EVER CONCERN ABOUT A HANDGUN 18:07.653 --> 18:09.052 align:start BEING IN THE CAR OR QUESTION, 18:09.055 --> 18:10.587 align:start THEY COULD ALWAYS AT LEAST CHECK 18:10.590 --> 18:11.921 align:start IF THERE WAS A PERMIT. 18:11.924 --> 18:12.922 align:start NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THAT AS SORT 18:12.925 --> 18:16.092 align:start OF A BACKGROUND. 18:16.095 --> 18:16.760 align:start I THINK THAT'S WHY MANY POLICE 18:16.763 --> 18:20.463 align:start ORGANIZATIONS WERE AGAINST THE 18:20.466 --> 18:22.198 align:start BILL TO BEGIN WITH. 18:22.201 --> 18:24.634 align:start >> YEAH. 18:24.637 --> 18:26.169 align:start PUBLIC LIBRARY WHEN INDIANA'S 18:26.172 --> 18:27.871 align:start OPEN CARRY LAWS WENT INTO EFFECT 18:27.874 --> 18:29.406 align:start AND EXTENDED TO LIBRARIES. 18:29.409 --> 18:33.076 align:start DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO 18:33.079 --> 18:38.982 align:start NOTICE THIS CHANGE IN LAW? 18:38.985 --> 18:40.083 align:start >> I THINK NIKI'S SASS IS 18:40.086 --> 18:44.921 align:start — ASSESSMENT IS RIGHT ON. 18:44.924 --> 18:49.159 align:start IF YOU HOLD A BADGE AND A GUN 18:49.162 --> 18:50.026 align:start AND YOU'RE EMPOWERED TO ARREST 18:50.029 --> 18:50.326 align:start BAD GUYS AND BAD PEOPLE, YOU 18:50.329 --> 18:52.162 align:start CARE. 18:52.165 --> 18:58.101 align:start I THINK OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD 18:58.104 --> 19:00.036 align:start CARE MORE THAN THE AVERAGE 19:00.039 --> 19:02.272 align:start PERSON IS THOSE WHO HAVE 19:02.275 --> 19:03.206 align:start FESTIVALS AND LARGE EVENTS OR 19:03.209 --> 19:04.841 align:start CELEBRATIONS OR ANY GATHERING OF 19:04.844 --> 19:06.276 align:start A LOT OF PEOPLE, IF YOU OWN 19:06.279 --> 19:09.579 align:start PROPERTY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN 19:09.582 --> 19:11.347 align:start YOU'RE WONDERING WHO AM I, I'M 19:11.350 --> 19:11.581 align:start ASSESSING A CROWD OF SEVERAL 19:11.584 --> 19:14.184 align:start HUNDRED. 19:14.187 --> 19:16.052 align:start IN MY MIND I'M IMAGINING HOW 19:16.055 --> 19:20.423 align:start MANY OF THESE PEOPLE IF YOU RAN 19:20.426 --> 19:22.125 align:start THEM THROUGH A MAGNETOMETER, IT 19:22.128 --> 19:24.394 align:start WOULD BE GOING BEEP, BEEP, BEEP. 19:24.397 --> 19:24.727 align:start IT AFFECTS THAT KIND OF 19:24.730 --> 19:26.463 align:start INDIVIDUAL. 19:26.466 --> 19:29.766 align:start FOR THE MOST PART, IT AFOLLOWING 19:29.769 --> 19:30.867 align:start THE ACCIDENT — AFFECTS THE 19:30.870 --> 19:32.202 align:start CONCEALED CARRY. 19:32.205 --> 19:33.803 align:start >> NO, IT'S ALL TREATED THE 19:33.806 --> 19:35.872 align:start SAME. 19:35.875 --> 19:36.773 align:start >> INDIANA DOESN'T HAVE OPEN OR 19:36.776 --> 19:38.875 align:start CONCEALED. 19:38.878 --> 19:40.143 align:start >> IT HAS NOTHING NOW. 19:40.146 --> 19:41.277 align:start >> CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY. 19:41.280 --> 19:42.879 align:start >> THERE'S STILL RULES ABOUT 19:42.882 --> 19:45.015 align:start CARRYING A GUN. 19:45.018 --> 19:45.882 align:start >> I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, 19:45.885 --> 19:46.550 align:start EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE 19:46.553 --> 19:49.319 align:start A POINT. 19:49.322 --> 19:51.387 align:start WE'VE SEEN THAT WHERE SOMEBODY 19:51.390 --> 19:52.055 align:start MARCHES INTO A FESTIVAL WITH A 19:52.058 --> 19:54.457 align:start LONG GUN. 19:54.460 --> 19:54.891 align:start MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT BRANDISHING 19:54.894 --> 19:56.326 align:start IT. 19:56.329 --> 19:56.993 align:start >> UNTIL THEY HAVE THEIR TOES 19:56.996 --> 19:59.696 align:start STEPPED ON. 19:59.699 --> 20:01.665 align:start >> I DON'T THINK THAT MOST 20:01.668 --> 20:02.131 align:start HOOSIERS WILL PROBABLY NOTICE 20:02.134 --> 20:05.134 align:start IT. 20:05.137 --> 20:07.537 align:start >> POLICE BUDGETS MAY. 20:07.540 --> 20:08.371 align:start >> WELL, 20:08.374 --> 20:09.105 align:start THE NUMBER OF SPECIAL EDUCATION 20:09.108 --> 20:09.673 align:start TEACHERS IN INDIANA HAS DECLINED 20:09.676 --> 20:10.440 align:start BY ABOUT A THOUSAND OVER THE 20:10.443 --> 20:12.275 align:start LAST DECADE. AT THE SAME TIME, 20:12.278 --> 20:14.310 align:start THEY'RE SERVING MORE AND MORE 20:14.313 --> 20:16.246 align:start STUDENTS. FROM WFYI'S EDUCATION 20:16.249 --> 20:17.547 align:start DESK, DYLAN PEERS MCCOY REPORTS 20:17.550 --> 20:18.915 align:start THAT DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS ARE 20:18.918 --> 20:20.383 align:start TRYING TO CHIP AWAY AT THE 20:20.386 --> 20:26.423 align:start SHORTAGE BY TRAINING THEIR OWN 20:26.426 --> 20:26.990 align:start EDUCATORS. 20:26.993 --> 20:29.325 align:start >> INDIANA SCHOOLS ARE IN A 20:29.328 --> 20:29.859 align:start SCRAMBLE TO HIRE ENOUGH SPECIAL 20:29.862 --> 20:30.526 align:start EDUCATION TEACHERS AFTER THE 20:30.529 --> 20:33.797 align:start STATE ELIMINATED EMERGENCY 20:33.800 --> 20:34.664 align:start PERMITS FOR EDUCATORS WHO ARE 20:34.667 --> 20:37.667 align:start NOT FULLY QUALIFIED. 20:37.670 --> 20:38.635 align:start A NEW TRAINING PROGRAM AIMS TO 20:38.638 --> 20:40.270 align:start HELP FILL THE GAP. IT WILL 20:40.273 --> 20:41.504 align:start PREPARE CURRENT EDUCATORS FOR 20:41.507 --> 20:42.806 align:start LONG-TERM LICENSES IN SPECIAL 20:42.809 --> 20:43.673 align:start EDUCATION. 20:43.676 --> 20:44.608 align:start JAY ARTHUR IS THE PROGRAM 20:44.611 --> 20:48.678 align:start DIRECTOR AND A FORMER 20:48.681 --> 20:49.412 align:start SUPERINTENDENT. 20:49.415 --> 20:50.079 align:start JAY ARTHUR: THESE ARE FOLKS 20:50.082 --> 20:50.680 align:start WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN IN THE SEAT 20:50.683 --> 20:51.447 align:start AS A TEACHER OR AN EDUCATOR • 20:51.450 --> 20:55.352 align:start THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE. THEY JUST 20:55.355 --> 20:56.986 align:start DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT CREDENTIAL. 20:56.989 --> 20:57.620 align:start >> THE 11-MONTH PROGRAM IS FREE 20:57.623 --> 20:58.622 align:start FOR EDUCATORS. PARTICIPANTS WILL 20:58.625 --> 20:59.856 align:start WORK AS SPECIAL EDUCATION 20:59.859 --> 21:01.624 align:start TEACHERS THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL 21:01.627 --> 21:05.895 align:start YEAR. THEY WILL ALSO ATTEND A 21:05.898 --> 21:07.297 align:start BOOTCAMP AND MONTHLY CLASSES. 21:07.300 --> 21:10.266 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, WE DON'T 21:10.269 --> 21:11.368 align:start EXACTLY HAVE A SURPLUS OF 21:11.371 --> 21:11.968 align:start TEACHERS IN GENERAL. ARE WE 21:11.971 --> 21:15.438 align:start RISKING EXACERBATING ONE 21:15.441 --> 21:16.940 align:start SHORTAGE TO HELP SOLVE ANOTHER? 21:16.943 --> 21:19.475 align:start >> I SUPPOSE YOU COULD MAKE THAT 21:19.478 --> 21:22.412 align:start ARGUMENT, BUT THESE ARE KIDS WHO 21:22.415 --> 21:24.714 align:start HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS AND THEREFORE 21:24.717 --> 21:26.716 align:start THEY REQUIRE INSTRUCTION FROM 21:26.719 --> 21:28.785 align:start INDIVIDUALS WITH A LEVEL OF 21:28.788 --> 21:30.420 align:start EXPERTISE AND THE CREDENTIALS TO 21:30.423 --> 21:33.189 align:start PROVE IT THAT SEPARATES THEM 21:33.192 --> 21:34.090 align:start FROM QUOTE, UNQUOTE THE TYPICAL 21:34.093 --> 21:34.791 align:start CLASSROOM TEACHER. 21:34.794 --> 21:38.094 align:start THERE'S A NEED. 21:38.097 --> 21:42.532 align:start SO, YOU GOT TO ADDRESS THE NEED. 21:42.535 --> 21:44.867 align:start SURE, WILL IT TAKE FROM AN 21:44.870 --> 21:46.602 align:start ALREADY TOO-LIMITED POOL OF 21:46.605 --> 21:48.471 align:start INDIVIDUALS AND FURTHER 21:48.474 --> 21:51.207 align:start EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM, MAYBE IT 21:51.210 --> 21:51.474 align:start WILL, BUT WHAT'S THE 21:51.477 --> 21:56.346 align:start ALTERNATIVE? 21:56.349 --> 22:01.184 align:start IF WE WERE TRULY COMMITTED TO 22:01.187 --> 22:01.484 align:start EDUCATION FOR ALL HOOSIER 22:01.487 --> 22:02.485 align:start CHILDREN. 22:02.488 --> 22:03.886 align:start >> WE COULD PAY THEM MORE. 22:03.889 --> 22:05.855 align:start >> I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT SAY THAT. 22:05.858 --> 22:07.623 align:start >> IT'S THE TRUTH. 22:07.626 --> 22:09.926 align:start IT'S A TOUGH JOB, A SPECIAL 22:09.929 --> 22:11.427 align:start EDUCATION TEACHER. 22:11.430 --> 22:12.662 align:start >> THE GOVERNOR,. 22:12.665 --> 22:14.731 align:start >> WE'RE STILL BELOW WHERE WE 22:14.734 --> 22:15.799 align:start NEED TO BE. 22:15.802 --> 22:16.399 align:start PARTICULARLY WITH SPECIAL 22:16.402 --> 22:18.067 align:start EDUCATION TEACHERS. 22:18.070 --> 22:19.902 align:start WE HAVE TO MAKE IT DESIRABLE. 22:19.905 --> 22:21.537 align:start WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE 22:21.540 --> 22:23.173 align:start WE'RE COMPARABLE JUST BARELY 22:23.176 --> 22:27.376 align:start WITH SOME OF THE STATES AROUND 22:27.379 --> 22:29.645 align:start US, BUT WE'RE NOT SUPER STARS. 22:29.648 --> 22:30.646 align:start >> EVEN WHEN YOU DO HIT SOME 22:30.649 --> 22:31.914 align:start IMAGINARY THRESHOLD, THAT 22:31.917 --> 22:36.085 align:start DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 22:36.088 --> 22:37.987 align:start THE TURNOVER RATE AND BURNOUT 22:37.990 --> 22:39.288 align:start RATE AMONG SPECIAL ED. 22:39.291 --> 22:41.023 align:start >> IS VERY HIGH BECAUSE IT'S A 22:41.026 --> 22:42.258 align:start HARD JOB. 22:42.261 --> 22:44.728 align:start >> WE SPEND MORE PER STUDENT. 22:44.731 --> 22:49.699 align:start WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT THE 22:49.702 --> 22:52.936 align:start ONLY THING THAT SOLVES EDUCATION 22:52.939 --> 22:53.936 align:start PROBLEMS IS MORE DOLLARS. 22:53.939 --> 22:56.672 align:start >> JUST BECAUSE WE SPENT MORE 22:56.675 --> 22:57.006 align:start THAN BEFORE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S 22:57.009 --> 22:57.540 align:start ENOUGH. 22:57.543 --> 22:59.609 align:start >> THAT'S EXACTLY. 22:59.612 --> 23:00.710 align:start >> MY FRIEND ANN'S RESPONSE IS 23:00.713 --> 23:01.477 align:start ALWAYS MORE MONEY. 23:01.480 --> 23:03.446 align:start >> NO, IT'S NOT. 23:03.449 --> 23:04.381 align:start >> I WANT TEACHERS PAID 23:04.384 --> 23:05.615 align:start COMPARABLE TO THEIR EDUCATION 23:05.618 --> 23:06.883 align:start AND THE PRODUCT THEY'RE 23:06.886 --> 23:07.917 align:start DELIVERING. 23:07.920 --> 23:09.285 align:start AND SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS 23:09.288 --> 23:13.389 align:start OUGHT TO HAVE A BONUS BEYOND 23:13.392 --> 23:15.325 align:start THAT AND WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH. 23:15.328 --> 23:15.625 align:start >> BASIC ECONOMIC POLICIES APPLY 23:15.628 --> 23:17.226 align:start HERE. 23:17.229 --> 23:19.028 align:start IF YOU HAVE A SHORTAGE OF 23:19.031 --> 23:22.598 align:start SOMETHING, YOU RAISE THE PAY. 23:22.601 --> 23:24.233 align:start >> AND SOMEHOW IT GETS FILLED. 23:24.236 --> 23:25.502 align:start NOT WITH THE REPUBLICAN MODEL. 23:25.505 --> 23:28.138 align:start >> YOU GUYS DO NOT WANT THE 23:28.141 --> 23:28.537 align:start GOVERNOR DECIDING TEACHER 23:28.540 --> 23:30.273 align:start COMPENSATION. 23:30.276 --> 23:32.342 align:start >> WE WANT THEM TO PUT ENOUGH 23:32.345 --> 23:34.010 align:start MONEY IN THERE THAT THE LOCALS 23:34.013 --> 23:34.477 align:start HAVE THE OPTION OF PAYING THEM 23:34.480 --> 23:36.612 align:start ENOUGH. 23:36.615 --> 23:38.448 align:start >> THE GOVERNOR ESSENTIALLY HAS 23:38.451 --> 23:39.782 align:start WADED INTO THAT DEBATE ENOUGH TO 23:39.785 --> 23:41.518 align:start SAY IF THERE'S A THRESHOLD, I 23:41.521 --> 23:43.085 align:start WOULD LIKE YOU TO MAINTAIN, AND 23:43.088 --> 23:44.821 align:start IF YOU DON'T, YOU HAVE TO 23:44.824 --> 23:46.155 align:start EXPLAIN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. 23:46.158 --> 23:53.162 align:start >> THE NEXT TIME THE GOVERNOR 23:53.165 --> 23:56.499 align:start GETS ELECTED YOU DISAGREE WITH. 23:56.502 --> 23:57.233 align:start >> FINALLY, A NEW LAW THAT TOOK 23:57.236 --> 23:57.767 align:start EFFECT THIS WEEK BANS PEOPLE WHO 23:57.770 --> 23:58.434 align:start OWN BEARS OR BIG CATS - LIONS, 23:58.437 --> 23:59.569 align:start TIGER, LEOPARDS AND THE LIKE - 23:59.572 --> 24:00.169 align:start FROM ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO HAVE 24:00.172 --> 24:01.604 align:start PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH THOSE 24:01.607 --> 24:03.606 align:start ANIMALS. 24:03.609 --> 24:04.674 align:start ANN DELANEY, WHY ARE LAWMAKERS 24:04.677 --> 24:05.408 align:start INFRINGING ON MY GOD-GIVEN, 24:05.411 --> 24:08.478 align:start MILLENNIAL RIGHT TO BE MAULED BY 24:08.481 --> 24:09.612 align:start A LION? 24:09.615 --> 24:11.481 align:start >> YOU KNOW, LAUREN, THAT'S A 24:11.484 --> 24:12.482 align:start REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 24:12.485 --> 24:17.520 align:start [LAUGHTER] 24:17.523 --> 24:18.521 align:start I FRANKLY THINK THIS IS DARWIN 24:18.524 --> 24:19.522 align:start ISM AT ITS BEST. 24:19.525 --> 24:23.326 align:start IF YOU'RE DUMB ENOUGH TO HAVE A 24:23.329 --> 24:26.496 align:start PET LION, TIGER, OR BEAR, HEY WE 24:26.499 --> 24:27.997 align:start DON'T WANT THAT GENE POOL 24:28.000 --> 24:28.464 align:start CORRODING THE REST OF IT. 24:28.467 --> 24:29.732 align:start [LAUGHTER] 24:29.735 --> 24:35.171 align:start >> I HATE TO POINT OUT THIS WAS 24:35.174 --> 24:38.741 align:start OBVIOUSLY TARGETED AT ROADSIDE 24:38.744 --> 24:42.912 align:start OR SMALL ZOOS THAT LITERALLY 24:42.915 --> 24:44.914 align:start RAISE CUBS UP FOR PEOPLE TO PET 24:44.917 --> 24:45.648 align:start FOR $200 AND THEN THEY KILL THEM 24:45.651 --> 24:48.518 align:start WHEN THEY'RE TOO BIG. 24:48.521 --> 24:49.719 align:start THERE WAS A REASON BEHIND THE 24:49.722 --> 24:50.053 align:start BILL. 24:50.056 --> 24:51.921 align:start >> ABSOLUTELY. 24:51.924 --> 24:54.123 align:start JON, SHOULDN'T WE BE ALLOWED TO 24:54.126 --> 24:56.326 align:start PET LIONS, AND TIGERS, AND 24:56.329 --> 24:59.896 align:start BEARS, OH MY? 24:59.899 --> 25:03.199 align:start >> I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE 25:03.202 --> 25:04.801 align:start LIBERTARIAN PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. 25:04.804 --> 25:06.035 align:start THE FELINE INTERACTION. 25:06.038 --> 25:07.003 align:start YOU'RE A CAT OWNER. 25:07.006 --> 25:07.804 align:start YOU'RE A CAT OWNER. 25:07.807 --> 25:10.273 align:start I USED TO BE. 25:10.276 --> 25:12.275 align:start NOW I'M A DOG OWNER. 25:12.278 --> 25:14.544 align:start MY OLD CAT WAS SO VICIOUS IN A 25:14.547 --> 25:17.513 align:start SMALL PACKAGE THAT IT MIGHT HAVE 25:17.516 --> 25:17.747 align:start CONSTITUTED A VIOLATION OF THIS 25:17.750 --> 25:18.881 align:start STATUTE. 25:18.884 --> 25:19.682 align:start >> DID YOU EVER THINK IT MIGHT 25:19.685 --> 25:20.984 align:start HAVE BEEN YOU? 25:20.987 --> 25:21.951 align:start >> I MIGHT HAVE HAD THAT EFFECT 25:21.954 --> 25:24.420 align:start ON IT. 25:24.423 --> 25:24.820 align:start >> THAT WAS MY CAT THIS WEEK. 25:24.823 --> 25:27.256 align:start [LAUGHTER] 25:27.259 --> 25:27.423 align:start >> THIS IS WHY, ALL POLITICS IS 25:27.426 --> 25:28.558 align:start LOCAL. 25:28.561 --> 25:28.825 align:start THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING 25:28.828 --> 25:30.627 align:start ABOUT. 25:30.630 --> 25:33.029 align:start >> THIS IS THE KIND OF WORK THAT 25:33.032 --> 25:33.363 align:start OUR LAWMAKERS ARE WORKING TO 25:33.366 --> 25:35.298 align:start ADDRESS. 25:35.301 --> 25:36.766 align:start >> AND THEY ARE SO MUCH MORE 25:36.769 --> 25:39.435 align:start WORRIED ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF 25:39.438 --> 25:41.938 align:start ANIMALS THAN THEY ARE. 25:41.941 --> 25:44.240 align:start >> WE'LL NON-FEDERALLY NEVER 25:44.243 --> 25:47.477 align:start — NEVER HAVE OUR JOE EXOTIC. 25:47.480 --> 25:49.712 align:start >> WE DID HAVE A JOE EXOTIC. 25:49.715 --> 25:50.146 align:start >> I DIDN'T SEE A NETFLIX 25:50.149 --> 25:52.448 align:start SERIES. 25:52.451 --> 25:57.486 align:start >> IT WAS LITERALLY IN THAT 25:57.489 --> 25:58.187 align:start SERIES. 25:58.190 --> 25:58.454 align:start THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 25:58.457 --> 25:59.488 align:start FOR THIS WEEK. 25:59.491 --> 25:59.989 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 25:59.992 --> 26:00.456 align:start DELANEY 26:00.459 --> 26:00.990 align:start REPUBLICAN JOEY FOX 26:00.993 --> 26:01.324 align:start JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 26:01.327 --> 26:02.658 align:start LAWMAKERS AND. 26:02.661 --> 26:07.030 align:start NIKI KELLY OF THE INDIANA 26:07.033 --> 26:08.297 align:start CAPITOL CHRONICLE 26:08.300 --> 26:10.433 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 26:10.436 --> 26:12.335 align:start PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 26:12.338 --> 26:13.736 align:start WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 26:13.739 --> 26:15.605 align:start YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 26:15.608 --> 26:17.273 align:start DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 26:17.276 --> 26:18.474 align:start WFYI APP. 26:18.477 --> 26:20.576 align:start I'M LAUREN CHAPMAN OF INDIANA 26:20.579 --> 26:23.179 align:start PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 26:23.182 --> 26:29.018 align:start JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 26:29.021 --> 26:32.722 align:start CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK. 26:33.091 --> 26:37.193 align:start ♪ 26:37.196 --> 26:40.896 align:start >> THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE 26:40.899 --> 26:42.298 align:start SOLELY THOSE OF THE PANELISTS. 26:42.301 --> 26:44.167 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS A WFYI 26:44.170 --> 26:45.167 align:start PRODUCTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH