1 00:00:04,566 --> 00:00:06,666 >>> THE INDIANA NATIONAL 2 00:00:06,666 --> 00:00:07,066 GUARD NOT PURSUING 3 00:00:07,066 --> 00:00:07,433 COURTS-MARTIAL. 4 00:00:07,433 --> 00:00:07,900 LAWMAKERS' CONSULTING 5 00:00:07,900 --> 00:00:08,433 WORK. PLUS SPEED CAMERAS 6 00:00:08,433 --> 00:00:08,900 CLOSE TO REALITY AND 7 00:00:08,900 --> 00:00:13,033 MORE. 8 00:00:13,033 --> 00:00:13,466 FROM THE TELEVISION 9 00:00:13,466 --> 00:00:13,933 STUDIOS AT WFYI, IT'S 10 00:00:13,933 --> 00:00:14,400 INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 11 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:14,933 FOR THE WEEK ENDING MARCH 12 00:00:14,933 --> 00:00:23,833 17, 2023. 13 00:00:23,833 --> 00:00:25,366 >>> INDIANA WEEK IN 14 00:00:25,366 --> 00:00:26,033 REVIEW IS MADE POSSIBLE 15 00:00:26,033 --> 00:00:29,433 BY THE SUPPORTERS OF 16 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:30,800 INDIANA PUBLIC 17 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,533 BROADCASTING STATIONS. 18 00:00:31,533 --> 00:00:32,566 >> THIS WEEK INDIANA 19 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:33,300 NATIONAL GUARD LEADERS 20 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:34,866 HAVE BEEN TELLING 21 00:00:34,866 --> 00:00:36,000 LAWMAKERS THEY ARE NOT 22 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,266 ABLE TO CONVENE GENERAL 23 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:39,933 COURTS MARSHAL TO ADDRESS 24 00:00:39,933 --> 00:00:41,666 SERIOUS TROOP MISCONDUCT 25 00:00:41,666 --> 00:00:42,666 INCLUDING FOUR SEXUAL 26 00:00:42,666 --> 00:00:44,533 SEXUAL SEXUAL 27 00:00:44,533 --> 00:00:45,633 ASSAULTINGSES LAST YEAR B 28 00:00:45,633 --> 00:00:47,866 IT NOW APPEARS THEY NEVER 29 00:00:47,866 --> 00:00:48,766 TRIEDFUL GUARD LEADERS 30 00:00:48,766 --> 00:00:49,733 AID THE ISSUE IS THAT THE 31 00:00:49,733 --> 00:00:52,133 POWER TO CONVENE A COURT 32 00:00:52,133 --> 00:00:53,966 MARSHAL IS EXCLUSIVE TO 33 00:00:53,966 --> 00:00:55,700 THE GOVERNOR, DOYLE 34 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:56,433 TESTIFIED TO THAT DURING 35 00:00:56,433 --> 00:00:57,900 A HEARING ON A BILL THAT 36 00:00:57,900 --> 00:00:59,633 WOULD GIVE HIM THE POUR 37 00:00:59,633 --> 00:01:01,133 TO CONVENE ONE TOO. 38 00:01:01,133 --> 00:01:03,066 >> AGREEANCE MISCONDUCT 39 00:01:03,066 --> 00:01:05,000 IN THE CASE OF SEXUAL 40 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,700 ASSAULT. 41 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:07,666 IS NOT BEING PUNISHED TO 42 00:01:07,666 --> 00:01:12,766 THE FULLEST EXTENT. 43 00:01:12,766 --> 00:01:14,433 >>> BUT THE GOVERNOR CAN 44 00:01:14,433 --> 00:01:16,666 ONLY CONVENE A COURT 45 00:01:16,666 --> 00:01:18,833 MARSHAL IF THE GUARD ASKS 46 00:01:18,833 --> 00:01:19,833 HIM TO DO SO. 47 00:01:19,833 --> 00:01:22,466 ERIC HOLCOMB SAYS HE HAS 48 00:01:22,466 --> 00:01:25,966 NEVER BEEN ASKED TO. 49 00:01:25,966 --> 00:01:26,600 LISA IS A SEXUAL ASSAULT 50 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,100 SURVIVOR AND SHE SAYS 51 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:29,266 THAT INFORMATION IS 52 00:01:29,266 --> 00:01:29,533 SHOCKING. 53 00:01:29,533 --> 00:01:31,700 >> IF YOU'RE WANTING TO 54 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:33,800 ADD THE GENERAL TO THE 55 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,500 CONVENING AUTHORITY AND 56 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:36,533 THE REASON THAT YOU GIVE 57 00:01:36,533 --> 00:01:38,066 IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR 58 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:39,433 HAS NOT BEEN CONVENING 59 00:01:39,433 --> 00:01:41,900 COURT MARSHALS AND THEN 60 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:43,333 THE INFORMATION COMES OUT 61 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:45,600 THAT YOU HAVEN'T 62 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,133 REQUESTED ANY COURT 63 00:01:48,133 --> 00:01:49,733 MARSHALS TO BE CONVENED 64 00:01:49,733 --> 00:01:50,766 THAT'S CONCERNING. 65 00:01:50,766 --> 00:01:55,900 >>> THE GUARD DECLINED TO 66 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:57,633 EXPLAIN DESPITE LEADERS 67 00:01:57,633 --> 00:01:59,200 SAYING CASES SHOULD BE 68 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,066 HAND THAT WAY. 69 00:02:00,066 --> 00:02:02,666 WHY IS THE GUARD BEING SO 70 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:04,100 EVASIVE ON THIS ISSUE? 71 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:06,566 IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION 72 00:02:06,566 --> 00:02:08,266 FOR OUR INDIANA WEEK IN 73 00:02:08,266 --> 00:02:10,366 REVIEW PANEL. 74 00:02:10,366 --> 00:02:10,833 DEMOCRAT ELISE SHROCK, 75 00:02:10,833 --> 00:02:11,333 REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN, 76 00:02:11,333 --> 00:02:11,800 JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF 77 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,266 INDIANA LAWMAKERS, AND 78 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:12,566 NIKI KELLY, 79 00:02:12,566 --> 00:02:13,033 EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF THE 80 00:02:13,033 --> 00:02:13,400 INDIANA CAPITAL 81 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:21,366 CHRONICLE. 82 00:02:21,366 --> 00:02:23,233 I'M INDIANA PUBLIC PUBLIC 83 00:02:23,233 --> 00:02:24,100 BROADCASTING STATE HOUSE 84 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:26,333 CHIEF BRANDON SMITH. 85 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:27,000 ELISE, IS THIS THE IS 86 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,200 PROBLEM OF THE GUARD'S 87 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:28,800 OWN MAKING? 88 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,266 >> YES AND I THINK THAT'S 89 00:02:31,266 --> 00:02:32,333 MAYBE WHY WE SHOULD TAKE 90 00:02:32,333 --> 00:02:34,800 A PAUSE, THAT WOULD BE MY 91 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,033 SUGGESTION, BECAUSE I 92 00:02:36,033 --> 00:02:37,933 THINK A LOT OF FOLKS ARE 93 00:02:37,933 --> 00:02:39,266 UNCLEAR WHY THIS IS 94 00:02:39,266 --> 00:02:40,700 HAPPENING, WHAT IT WOULD 95 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:42,733 MEAN. 96 00:02:42,733 --> 00:02:44,933 THE MOST CONSISTENT 97 00:02:44,933 --> 00:02:47,733 ANSWER THAT'S BEGUN GIVEN 98 00:02:47,733 --> 00:02:50,800 FOR THE COURT MARSHAL 99 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,666 PIECE IS POTENTIAL ABUSE 100 00:02:51,666 --> 00:02:54,466 WHICH IS NOT EVIDENCE 101 00:02:54,466 --> 00:02:57,333 BASED. 102 00:02:57,333 --> 00:02:58,333 THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION 103 00:02:58,333 --> 00:02:59,466 HAS BROUGHT ABOUT WAY 104 00:02:59,466 --> 00:03:04,166 MORE ISSUES, AND IT 105 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:04,966 AFFECTS A LOT OF 106 00:03:04,966 --> 00:03:06,233 DIFFERENT FOLKS INCLUDING 107 00:03:06,233 --> 00:03:07,300 NATIONAL GUARDS PEOPLE SO 108 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:08,600 I THINK WE CAN TAKE A 109 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,466 PAUSE SO WE CAN FIGURE 110 00:03:09,466 --> 00:03:10,766 OUT WHAT A GOING ON HERE. 111 00:03:10,766 --> 00:03:12,600 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE 112 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,833 ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH 113 00:03:15,833 --> 00:03:16,266 WHERE IT IS NOW. 114 00:03:16,266 --> 00:03:17,733 >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS 115 00:03:17,733 --> 00:03:18,200 BILL AND THERE ARE TWO 116 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,400 PARTS. 117 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,266 ONE IS THE GOVERNOR'S 118 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:22,933 AUTHORITY TO CALL A COURT 119 00:03:22,933 --> 00:03:23,366 MARSHAL. 120 00:03:23,366 --> 00:03:24,466 NOBODY HAD A PROBLEM WITH 121 00:03:24,466 --> 00:03:26,133 TAT, THE OTHER PART 122 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:27,333 PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED 123 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:28,833 ABOUT IS THE IDEA OF 124 00:03:28,833 --> 00:03:29,866 TAKING AWAY THE POWER OF 125 00:03:29,866 --> 00:03:30,533 A NATIONAL GUARD MEMBER 126 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:35,033 TO ASK FOR A COURT 127 00:03:35,033 --> 00:03:35,833 MARSHAL. 128 00:03:35,833 --> 00:03:36,566 THE PROBLEM EVERYONE 129 00:03:36,566 --> 00:03:38,000 AGREED TO IS ALSO 130 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,600 PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THE 131 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,300 ANSWER IS THE GOVERNOR IS 132 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:41,666 IMPEDIMENTS TO THIS. 133 00:03:41,666 --> 00:03:43,466 HAVE YOU ASKED? 134 00:03:43,466 --> 00:03:44,200 NO. 135 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,400 WHY HAVEN'T YOU ASKED? 136 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,933 >> THERE'S A LITTLE BIT 137 00:03:46,933 --> 00:03:50,666 OF THIS GOING ON, FINGER 138 00:03:50,666 --> 00:03:52,600 POINTING AT EACH OTHER. 139 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,066 I THIS THE PROBLEM WITH 140 00:03:55,066 --> 00:03:58,200 THIS -- THEY'RE TRYING TO 141 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,133 EXPAND THE AUTHORITY OF 142 00:03:59,133 --> 00:04:00,900 THE NATIONAL GUARD TO 143 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,333 RESOLVE AND INVESTIGATE 144 00:04:03,333 --> 00:04:05,666 THESE SITUATIONS. 145 00:04:05,666 --> 00:04:06,100 THAT'S GREAT AMOUNT. 146 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:07,600 THEN LEFT UNRESOLVED 147 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,633 BECAUSE NO SUB IS ONE IS 148 00:04:09,633 --> 00:04:11,100 TALKING TO EACH OTHER OR 149 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,966 THEY HAVE LIMITED 150 00:04:13,966 --> 00:04:14,233 RESOURCES. 151 00:04:14,233 --> 00:04:15,466 I THINK THIS LEGISLATURE 152 00:04:15,466 --> 00:04:17,100 WOULD BE MORE THAN 153 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:18,000 WILLING TO INVEST IN THE 154 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,200 NATIONAL GUARD TO HELP IF 155 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,966 THEY ASKED FOR THAT PART 156 00:04:21,966 --> 00:04:22,833 OF IT INSTEAD OF THE 157 00:04:22,833 --> 00:04:24,633 PROCESS CHANGES BUT GO 158 00:04:24,633 --> 00:04:25,333 FIGURE THAT IT. 159 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:26,333 THE PROBLEM IS THAT 160 00:04:26,333 --> 00:04:30,166 CREATES A CULTURE THAT IS 161 00:04:30,166 --> 00:04:30,600 NOT HELPFUL EITHER. 162 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,766 IF PEOPLE IN THE GUARD -- 163 00:04:31,766 --> 00:04:33,233 IF THESE GUYS KNOW WHAT'S 164 00:04:33,233 --> 00:04:34,900 GOING ON, THESE GUARDS 165 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,366 MEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON 166 00:04:36,366 --> 00:04:39,433 INSIDE THEIR OWN RANKS 167 00:04:39,433 --> 00:04:41,966 AND YOU COMPLAINT LET 168 00:04:41,966 --> 00:04:45,033 THIS LINGER AND CREATE 169 00:04:45,033 --> 00:04:46,433 THIS CULTURE NOTHING IS 170 00:04:46,433 --> 00:04:48,566 RESOLVED AND WE TAKE AWAY 171 00:04:48,566 --> 00:04:49,933 DUE PROCESS AND NO ONE 172 00:04:49,933 --> 00:04:50,333 HAS ACCESS TO. 173 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:51,933 >> THAT CREATES A PROBLEM 174 00:04:51,933 --> 00:04:53,766 WITH RECRUITING NEW GUARD 175 00:04:53,766 --> 00:04:57,733 MEMBERS WHICH I THINK THE 176 00:04:57,733 --> 00:04:59,966 STATE SHOULDN'T BE DOING 177 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:03,166 THING ECS TO DISCOURAGE 178 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:04,966 THAT, SOMETHING THAT AL 179 00:05:04,966 --> 00:05:06,433 STRUCK ME THOUGH, TO WHAT 180 00:05:06,433 --> 00:05:07,866 MIKE JUST TALKED ABOUT 181 00:05:07,866 --> 00:05:08,966 WHICH ON THE SENATE IN 182 00:05:08,966 --> 00:05:11,533 WEEK THAT BILL WAS 183 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:12,433 DEBATED A COUPLE TIMES, 184 00:05:12,433 --> 00:05:13,500 AND NOW IT'S ON THE 185 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:15,133 GOVERNOR'S DESK AND I'M 186 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:16,566 FASCINATED TO SEE WHAT HE 187 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:20,700 DOES WITH IT ALTHOUGH I'M 188 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:22,066 GUESSING HE'LL JUST SIGN 189 00:05:22,066 --> 00:05:22,733 IT. 190 00:05:22,733 --> 00:05:24,100 BUT FUNCHAL THE REASON WE 191 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:26,333 HAVE TO GET RID OF THIS 192 00:05:26,333 --> 00:05:28,266 DUE PROCESS RIGHT, WELL 193 00:05:28,266 --> 00:05:29,033 UNDER THE CAN YOU 194 00:05:29,033 --> 00:05:32,100 REMEMBER CURRENT SYSTEM 195 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:35,166 ANYBODY WILL ASK FOR A 196 00:05:35,166 --> 00:05:39,400 COURT COURT MARSHAL AND 197 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,533 WE CAN'T DO THEM BECAUSE 198 00:05:41,533 --> 00:05:42,933 ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS 199 00:05:42,933 --> 00:05:44,600 ASK FOR A COURT MARSHAL 200 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,800 AND IT WILL GO AWAY. 201 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,033 ISN'T THAT A PROBLEM THAT 202 00:05:48,033 --> 00:05:48,766 NEEDS TO BE SOLVED? 203 00:05:48,766 --> 00:05:50,800 >> ONE WOULD THINK. 204 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,933 THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES 205 00:05:51,933 --> 00:05:52,833 GOING ON HERE AND IF YOU 206 00:05:52,833 --> 00:05:54,300 WANT TO GET BROAD IT'S 207 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:56,033 THE CHALLENGE OF DEALING 208 00:05:56,033 --> 00:05:57,433 WITH ISSUES SUCH SUCH AS 209 00:05:57,433 --> 00:05:58,700 SEXUAL ASSAULT WHEN 210 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:00,566 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 211 00:06:00,566 --> 00:06:02,466 INSTITUTIONINGS THAT HAVE 212 00:06:02,466 --> 00:06:04,166 OPERATED OUT OF PUBLIC 213 00:06:04,166 --> 00:06:04,766 SCRUTINY FOR GENERATIONS 214 00:06:04,766 --> 00:06:06,166 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL 215 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:08,500 BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY, 216 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:11,866 I'M TALKING ABOUT 217 00:06:11,866 --> 00:06:15,366 CORPORATIONS BUT WE SEE 218 00:06:15,366 --> 00:06:19,666 IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. 219 00:06:19,666 --> 00:06:21,500 CNN THIS WEEK WAS LOOKING 220 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:23,600 AT COAST GUARD ENFORCE. 221 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:29,466 IN TERMS OF THE MERCHANT 222 00:06:29,466 --> 00:06:30,766 MARINE AND THEY HAVE DONE 223 00:06:30,766 --> 00:06:34,666 ZERO IN THE LAST DENGUE 224 00:06:34,666 --> 00:06:36,700 INDICATE EVEN THOUGH 225 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:37,500 THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS 226 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:39,366 ALLEGATIONS AND SEEMINGLY 227 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:41,033 VALID ALLEGATIONS, SO WE 228 00:06:41,033 --> 00:06:43,300 STRUGGLE AS A SOCIETY TO 229 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:44,400 DEAL WITH THESE THINGS IN 230 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,933 THE RIGHT WAY. 231 00:06:46,933 --> 00:06:49,466 AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 232 00:06:49,466 --> 00:06:53,733 IS NOT ACAN YOU SAY 233 00:06:53,733 --> 00:06:55,066 TOLL -- ACCUSTOMED TO 234 00:06:55,066 --> 00:06:58,100 DEALING WITH MILITARY 235 00:06:58,100 --> 00:06:58,733 ISSUES. 236 00:06:58,733 --> 00:07:00,900 THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL 237 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:02,500 SOLDIERS, THESE ARE THE 238 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,266 MEN AND WOMEN WE ENTRUST 239 00:07:05,266 --> 00:07:07,033 WITH OUR SAFETY AND 240 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:10,133 SECURITY AND I THINK IT'S 241 00:07:10,133 --> 00:07:13,133 FORCING THE GENERAL 242 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:13,900 ASSEMBLY TO EXERCISE 243 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:14,766 MUSCLES THAT HAVE 244 00:07:14,766 --> 00:07:15,033 ATROPHIED. 245 00:07:15,033 --> 00:07:17,033 >>> AND THAT GETS BACK TO 246 00:07:17,033 --> 00:07:18,566 ISN'T THIS THE PROBLEM OF 247 00:07:18,566 --> 00:07:20,666 THE GUARD'S OWN MAKING IS 248 00:07:20,666 --> 00:07:20,866 THIS. 249 00:07:20,866 --> 00:07:21,900 >> THIS MIGHT BE AN ISSUE 250 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:23,033 BUT WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE 251 00:07:23,033 --> 00:07:24,566 THERE'S NO DATA, THEY 252 00:07:24,566 --> 00:07:25,666 HAVEN'T TOLD US HOW MANY 253 00:07:25,666 --> 00:07:28,900 MAJOR AND MINOR OFFENSES 254 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:31,033 THERE HAVE BEEN, THEY 255 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:33,000 HAVEN'T TOLD US HOW MANY 256 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,200 NONJUDICIAL PUNISHMENTS 257 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,866 HAVE BEEN MEETED OUT AND 258 00:07:38,866 --> 00:07:39,933 IT TOOK US ALMOST THREE 259 00:07:39,933 --> 00:07:40,800 MONTHS TO FIND OUT THAT 260 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,233 THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR A 261 00:07:42,233 --> 00:07:43,833 COURT MARSHAL EVEN FROM 262 00:07:43,833 --> 00:07:44,833 THE GOVERNOR, SO I HAVE 263 00:07:44,833 --> 00:07:46,800 NO DOUBT IT'S GOING TO 264 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,233 GET SIGNED INTO LAW BUT I 265 00:07:49,233 --> 00:07:51,466 THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF 266 00:07:51,466 --> 00:07:53,266 BIG REMAINS QUESTION, HOW 267 00:07:53,266 --> 00:07:54,400 HAS THE GUARD BEEN 268 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,300 OPERATING FOR DECADES 269 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:58,066 WITHOUT EWING COURT 270 00:07:58,066 --> 00:07:58,333 MARSHALS. 271 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:00,300 >>> MORE THAN A DOZEN 272 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:00,933 INDIANA LAWMAKERS HAVE 273 00:08:00,933 --> 00:08:01,700 CONSULTANT JOBS ACCORDING 274 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:03,233 TO A STORY THIS WEEK AND 275 00:08:03,233 --> 00:08:05,200 THE IS IT RULES ABOUT 276 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,466 DISS CLOSING CONSULTING 277 00:08:08,466 --> 00:08:09,666 CLIENTS DON'T ALWAYS 278 00:08:09,666 --> 00:08:10,400 PROVIDE FOR MUCH 279 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:10,766 TRANSPARENCY. 280 00:08:10,766 --> 00:08:12,533 >> THE STORY IDENTIFIED 281 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:13,933 AT LEAST 15 LAWMAKERS WHO 282 00:08:13,933 --> 00:08:16,066 CONSULT FOR PRIVATE 283 00:08:16,066 --> 00:08:17,600 BUSINESSES INCLUDING 284 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,766 HOUSE SPEAKER TODD 285 00:08:21,766 --> 00:08:23,033 HOUSTON. 286 00:08:23,033 --> 00:08:24,166 RULES ONLY RATHER 287 00:08:24,166 --> 00:08:25,800 LAWMAKERS TOLY THE 288 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,466 CLIENTS THEY CONSULT FOR 289 00:08:27,466 --> 00:08:28,666 IF THEY'RE A SIGNIFICANT 290 00:08:28,666 --> 00:08:29,200 SOURCE OF INCOME MEANING 291 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,666 SOME LAWMAKERS DO AND 292 00:08:30,666 --> 00:08:31,600 OTHERS DON'T. 293 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,433 THE STORY MENTIONS 294 00:08:34,433 --> 00:08:35,033 DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE 295 00:08:35,033 --> 00:08:35,566 BLAKE JOHNSON WHO DIDN'T 296 00:08:35,566 --> 00:08:37,066 LIST HIS CLIENTS ON HIS 297 00:08:37,066 --> 00:08:38,000 ADDITION CLOSURE FORM 298 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,700 BECAUSE ACCORDING TO 299 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:39,500 JOHNSON HE DIDN'T THINK 300 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,533 TO DO SEW WHEN THE FORM 301 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:44,700 DIDN'T PROMPT IT. 302 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:46,133 MIKE O'BRIEN WE'VE TALKED 303 00:08:46,133 --> 00:08:48,533 ABOUT THE STRENGTHS AND 304 00:08:48,533 --> 00:08:49,766 WEAK NETSES OF A CITIZEN 305 00:08:49,766 --> 00:08:50,300 LEGISLATURE AND THERE'S 306 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:53,400 ALWAYS THE IDEA OF A 307 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,566 CONFLICTED OF INTEREST 308 00:08:56,566 --> 00:08:57,600 WHICH IS YES THE REASON I 309 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,433 HAVE THAT BILL IS BECAUSE 310 00:08:59,433 --> 00:09:01,266 I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING 311 00:09:01,266 --> 00:09:02,400 ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO 312 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,033 THAT INDUSTRY. 313 00:09:03,033 --> 00:09:04,466 DOES THIS GO BEYOND THAT 314 00:09:04,466 --> 00:09:04,833 PROBLEM THOUGH? 315 00:09:04,833 --> 00:09:08,500 >> I THINK THE ADVANTAGES 316 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:09,566 ARE YOU HAVE AN INSURANCE 317 00:09:09,566 --> 00:09:11,666 AGENT INFORMING THE 318 00:09:11,666 --> 00:09:12,200 LEGISLATURE ON INSURANCE 319 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,033 POLICIES, YOU HAVE A 320 00:09:13,033 --> 00:09:14,100 TEACHER INFORMING THE 321 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:15,233 LEGISLATURE ON EDUCATION 322 00:09:15,233 --> 00:09:16,333 POLICY, OTHERWISE YOU 323 00:09:16,333 --> 00:09:17,366 HAVE AN INSURANCE AGENCY 324 00:09:17,366 --> 00:09:18,466 IN FRONT OF THE 325 00:09:18,466 --> 00:09:19,200 LEGISLATURE ON EDUCATION 326 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,266 POLICY AND A TEACHER ON 327 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:22,766 LEGISLATION POLICY AND 328 00:09:22,766 --> 00:09:26,733 STYLE THAT ENRICHES -- 329 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:27,600 ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT 330 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,966 ARE THE POLICY DECISIONS 331 00:09:28,966 --> 00:09:30,333 AND HOW THEY IMPACT THE 332 00:09:30,333 --> 00:09:32,633 WORLD AND THE LEGISLATURE 333 00:09:32,633 --> 00:09:33,133 ALMOST BENEFITS FROM 334 00:09:33,133 --> 00:09:34,166 HAVING PEOPLE FROM ALL 335 00:09:34,166 --> 00:09:35,600 WALK OF LIFE WHERE THE 336 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,533 ONLY THING THEY'RE DOING 337 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:39,766 IS NOT BEING A LAWMAKER, 338 00:09:39,766 --> 00:09:41,200 THAT'S NOT THE MOST 339 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:41,966 IMPORTANT THING IN THEIR 340 00:09:41,966 --> 00:09:43,733 LIFE AND I THINK THAT 341 00:09:43,733 --> 00:09:44,166 BENEFITS. 342 00:09:44,166 --> 00:09:45,566 BUT IT ALSO REQUIRES 343 00:09:45,566 --> 00:09:46,600 ADDITION CLOSURE OF WHAT 344 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,133 YOU'RE DONSBACH IN OTHER 345 00:09:48,133 --> 00:09:50,500 PARTS OF THE LIFE AND I 346 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:52,933 THINK THE MOST CONSISTENT 347 00:09:52,933 --> 00:09:54,666 THEME IS LIKE BLAKE 348 00:09:54,666 --> 00:09:56,766 JOHNSON, DIDN'T OCCUR TO 349 00:09:56,766 --> 00:09:58,666 ME, THEY ASKED ME TO FILL 350 00:09:58,666 --> 00:09:59,500 OUT THIS FORM AND IT 351 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:02,233 NEVER OCCURRED TO ME TO 352 00:10:02,233 --> 00:10:03,866 GO TWO LAYERS DEEPER THAN 353 00:10:03,866 --> 00:10:04,266 THAT. 354 00:10:04,266 --> 00:10:06,933 SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK 355 00:10:06,933 --> 00:10:08,533 AT HOW DEEP DO WE REQUIRE 356 00:10:08,533 --> 00:10:10,533 PEOPLE TO DISCLOSE. 357 00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:12,400 I HAVE TO ADDITION CLOSE 358 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,666 A LOT IT'S A HUGE BURDEN. 359 00:10:15,666 --> 00:10:18,466 IF I BUY A HOT DOG I HAVE 360 00:10:18,466 --> 00:10:20,233 TO REPORTS IT, SO THERE'S 361 00:10:20,233 --> 00:10:20,900 A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN 362 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:24,700 THE SYSTEM BUT IT'S 363 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:25,400 ALWAYS WORTH TAKING A 364 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:25,600 LOOK. 365 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,466 >> BUT WE'RE SAYING IT'S 366 00:10:27,466 --> 00:10:30,200 ONE THING TO SAY I'M AN 367 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,066 INSURANCE AGENT, I'M A 368 00:10:32,066 --> 00:10:34,000 TEACHER, THAT'S PRETTY 369 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,066 OBVIOUS. 370 00:10:35,066 --> 00:10:36,433 WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 371 00:10:36,433 --> 00:10:38,166 CONSULTING JOBS, I'M A 372 00:10:38,166 --> 00:10:40,633 CONSULTANT, WHO DO YOU 373 00:10:40,633 --> 00:10:41,166 CONSULT FOR IN I DON'T 374 00:10:41,166 --> 00:10:44,166 HAVE TO TELL YOU. 375 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:44,766 >> THAT'S THE THE 376 00:10:44,766 --> 00:10:45,300 MAINTAINWAY OF THIS PIECE 377 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:47,633 AND I THINK IT WAS GREAT 378 00:10:47,633 --> 00:10:49,633 REPORTING AND IT'S A TEXT 379 00:10:49,633 --> 00:10:50,766 BOOK EXAMPLE OF WHY WE 380 00:10:50,766 --> 00:10:53,366 NEED TO BE SUPPORTING 381 00:10:53,366 --> 00:10:57,233 THIS WAS A DEEP DIVE. 382 00:10:57,233 --> 00:10:59,300 IT AFFORDED LEGISLATORS 383 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:00,833 TO TALK DEEPLY ABOUT WHY 384 00:11:00,833 --> 00:11:01,866 THEY FILL THINGS OUT THIS 385 00:11:01,866 --> 00:11:04,700 WAY: IT UNDERSCORED IF A 386 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:09,666 FORM DOESN'T HAVE CERTAIN 387 00:11:09,666 --> 00:11:10,266 DISCLOSURES IT WILL PUSH 388 00:11:10,266 --> 00:11:12,966 DISCIPLINING PUBLIC 389 00:11:12,966 --> 00:11:17,433 POLICY IN A CERTAIN 390 00:11:17,433 --> 00:11:17,933 DIRECTION AND IT INFORMS 391 00:11:17,933 --> 00:11:18,466 THE DISCUSSION WE NEED TO 392 00:11:18,466 --> 00:11:19,333 HAVE AND I DO THINK WE 393 00:11:19,333 --> 00:11:20,733 NEED TO HAVE IT THE 394 00:11:20,733 --> 00:11:24,266 BECAUSE WE HAVE A SUPER 395 00:11:24,266 --> 00:11:29,666 IMBALANCED LEGISLATURE. 396 00:11:29,666 --> 00:11:30,800 COULD THEY BE? 397 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,666 SO HAVING THIS 398 00:11:31,666 --> 00:11:32,833 CONVERSATION IS REALLY 399 00:11:32,833 --> 00:11:33,900 IMPORTANT AND I'M 400 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:34,966 THANKFUL FOR THE PIECE. 401 00:11:34,966 --> 00:11:38,066 >> SO WE TALKED TO TODD 402 00:11:38,066 --> 00:11:38,866 HUSTON YESTERDAY ABOUT 403 00:11:38,866 --> 00:11:40,433 THE PIECE AND HE SAID WE 404 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:42,100 NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OUR 405 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:43,166 TRANSPARENCY PROCESSES TO 406 00:11:43,166 --> 00:11:44,300 BE IF THEN BE IMPROVED 407 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,066 AND HE POINTED TO THE 408 00:11:46,066 --> 00:11:48,000 ETHICS COMMISSION, IT IS 409 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:48,766 A SUPER MAJORITYING 410 00:11:48,766 --> 00:11:49,233 REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE 411 00:11:49,233 --> 00:11:51,233 BUT NOT ON THE ETHICS 412 00:11:51,233 --> 00:11:52,500 COMMITTEES, THOSE ARE 413 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,733 SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE. 414 00:11:54,733 --> 00:11:56,333 SO THIS WORK THAT NEEDS 415 00:11:56,333 --> 00:11:57,700 TO BE DONE? 416 00:11:57,700 --> 00:12:00,133 >> I THINK IT'S A FEW 417 00:12:00,133 --> 00:12:04,333 EASY FIXES. 418 00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:05,533 SOMEBODY COULD BE PUSHING 419 00:12:05,533 --> 00:12:06,866 A BILL OR BLOCKING A BILL 420 00:12:06,866 --> 00:12:09,400 FOR A CLIENT, YOU WOULD 421 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,000 NEVER KNOW. 422 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,033 SO IT'S AN EASY FIX AND I 423 00:12:12,033 --> 00:12:15,866 DO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO 424 00:12:15,866 --> 00:12:17,100 SPEAKER HUSTON, ONE OF 425 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:20,033 THE REASONS WHEN WE WERE 426 00:12:20,033 --> 00:12:21,233 LOOKING THROUGH ALL THESE 427 00:12:21,233 --> 00:12:23,000 WE NOTICED HI STARTED HIS 428 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,566 ON. 429 00:12:26,566 --> 00:12:27,766 HE ACTUALLY PUT DOWN HIS 430 00:12:27,766 --> 00:12:29,500 OWN CLIENTS AND WE DIDN'T 431 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,000 KNOW THEY WERE HIS 432 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,700 CLIENTS BECAUSE THERE'S 433 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:33,866 NO PLACE TO PUT THEM ON 434 00:12:33,866 --> 00:12:34,666 THE FORM. 435 00:12:34,666 --> 00:12:36,233 SO IT LOOKED LIKE ANOTHER 436 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,200 BUSINESS HE HAD AN 437 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,366 INTEREST IN, SO HE WENT 438 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:39,600 OUT OF THE WAY TO DO THAT 439 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,566 AND SOME MEMBERS ARE 440 00:12:40,566 --> 00:12:42,966 DOING IT AND SOME MEMBERS 441 00:12:42,966 --> 00:12:43,200 AREN'T. 442 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,833 >> TALKING TO LEGISLATORS 443 00:12:43,833 --> 00:12:45,033 THEY MADE THE ARGUMENT 444 00:12:45,033 --> 00:12:47,933 THAT WE WERE ALSO MAKING 445 00:12:47,933 --> 00:12:48,366 WHICH WILL GO MORE 446 00:12:48,366 --> 00:12:48,966 TRANSPARENCY ESPECIALLY 447 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:50,600 ON THIS SORT OF THING, 448 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,433 JUST MAKES THE SYSTEM 449 00:12:53,433 --> 00:12:54,266 BETTER. 450 00:12:54,266 --> 00:12:55,433 >> TRANSPARENCY IS 451 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:56,500 AUTOPSY GOOD WHEN YOU'RE 452 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:57,500 TALKING ABOUT 453 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:58,133 GOVERNMENT'S INTERACTION 454 00:12:58,133 --> 00:12:59,333 WITH DEMOCRACY. 455 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:00,500 LOOKING BACK TO THE 456 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:01,633 CLASSIC CASE, CITIZENS 457 00:13:01,633 --> 00:13:03,666 UNITED WHERE ANTHONY 458 00:13:03,666 --> 00:13:05,500 KENNEDY SAID THIS WILL BE 459 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:06,000 GREAT BECAUSE THERE'S 460 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,200 GOING TO BE ALL THIS 461 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,633 TRANSPARENCY, WELL THE 462 00:13:08,633 --> 00:13:10,033 REASON PEOPLE ARE STILL 463 00:13:10,033 --> 00:13:10,700 GROSSING ABOUT THAT 464 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:11,966 DECISION AND SAYING IT'S 465 00:13:11,966 --> 00:13:13,033 THE WORST THING THE 466 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:13,900 SUPREME COURT DID IS 467 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:15,333 THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY 468 00:13:15,333 --> 00:13:16,066 AND SOME OF THE DARK 469 00:13:16,066 --> 00:13:18,033 MONEY THAT FLOWED, SO 470 00:13:18,033 --> 00:13:19,833 THERE IS A PROBLEM. 471 00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:20,666 I THINK LAWMAKER JUDGE 472 00:13:20,666 --> 00:13:23,966 WANT GENERALLY WANT TO DO 473 00:13:23,966 --> 00:13:25,500 THE RIGHT THING, BUT A 474 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:28,533 YEAR AGO CAPITAL 475 00:13:28,533 --> 00:13:30,566 CHRONICLE DID NOT EXIST, 476 00:13:30,566 --> 00:13:31,966 HEAVEN FORBID SO HAD YOU 477 00:13:31,966 --> 00:13:33,600 NOT CREATED THIS VALUABLE 478 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,233 INSTITUTION, THIS ENTITY 479 00:13:36,233 --> 00:13:38,766 WE WOULDN'T KNOW THAT, SO 480 00:13:38,766 --> 00:13:41,133 THAT SHOWS PERHAPS SOME 481 00:13:41,133 --> 00:13:43,266 HAVE A JILLTY IN THE 482 00:13:43,266 --> 00:13:43,500 SYSTEM. 483 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:44,433 >>> INDIANA IS CLOSER 484 00:13:44,433 --> 00:13:46,000 THAN EVER TO PUTTING 485 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,066 SPEED CAMERA THIS IS A 486 00:13:47,066 --> 00:13:47,900 FEW HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION 487 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:49,000 ZONES ACROSS THE STATE. 488 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,600 A BILL TO CREATE A PILOT 489 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,466 PROGRAM IS A COUPLE STEPS 490 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:54,133 AWAY INTEREST THE GUN 491 00:13:54,133 --> 00:13:54,500 VIOLENCE'S DESK. 492 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,733 >> THE PILOT WOULD SET UP 493 00:13:55,733 --> 00:13:58,133 CAMERAS IN FOUR HIGHWAY 494 00:13:58,133 --> 00:13:58,866 WORKSITES. 495 00:13:58,866 --> 00:14:01,900 DRIVERS WOULD BE TICKET 496 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:02,366 IF THEY GO 497 00:14:02,366 --> 00:14:03,500 11-MILE-AN-HOUR OTHER THE 498 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:04,733 LIMIT ONLY WHEN WORKERS 499 00:14:04,733 --> 00:14:06,600 ARE PRESENT AND CHAD 500 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,633 SCOTT SAYS WORKERS NEED 501 00:14:07,633 --> 00:14:09,833 THAT PROTECTION. 502 00:14:09,833 --> 00:14:12,733 ONE OF HIS WORKERS WAS 503 00:14:12,733 --> 00:14:13,433 KILLED A FEW YEARS AGO 504 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:17,100 AND HE TOLD THE IS SENATE 505 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:19,433 COMMITTEE AHEAD HE HAD TO 506 00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:22,700 DELIVER THAT NEWS TO HIS 507 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:22,900 WIFE. 508 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:23,433 >> I NEVER WANT TO DO 509 00:14:23,433 --> 00:14:25,400 THAT AGAIN BUT AND THAT 510 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,333 PALES IN COMPARISON TO 511 00:14:28,333 --> 00:14:30,466 ASHLEY AND HER THREE 512 00:14:30,466 --> 00:14:32,633 BOYED HAD TO GO THROUGH. 513 00:14:32,633 --> 00:14:34,800 >> ROAD WORKERS UNION 514 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,966 LEADER ASSESS WORK ZONE 515 00:14:35,966 --> 00:14:37,166 SAFETY IS A RECRUITMENT 516 00:14:37,166 --> 00:14:37,433 ISSUE TOO. 517 00:14:37,433 --> 00:14:39,633 >> ONCE WE GET THE YOUNG 518 00:14:39,633 --> 00:14:41,166 KITS OUT THERE AND THEY 519 00:14:41,166 --> 00:14:43,133 HAVE A NEAR MISS THEY'RE 520 00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:43,533 NOT COMING BACK. 521 00:14:43,533 --> 00:14:46,000 >> THE BILL IS HEADED FOR 522 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,833 THE SENATE FLOOR. 523 00:14:46,833 --> 00:14:48,766 >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, 524 00:14:48,766 --> 00:14:50,400 THE IDEA SOME ISSUES TAKE 525 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,466 A LISTENING TIME TO GET 526 00:14:51,466 --> 00:14:54,333 TO THE MEASURE LINE. 527 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:56,100 IS THIS A PERFECT EXAMPLE 528 00:14:56,100 --> 00:14:58,500 OF ONE THAT NEEDED THAT? 529 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:00,800 >> I THINK THAT IS 530 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,233 PROBABLY MORE TYPICAL, WE 531 00:15:02,233 --> 00:15:04,433 SEE CERTAIN ISSUES WHERE 532 00:15:04,433 --> 00:15:06,666 THERE'S SOME BIG 533 00:15:06,666 --> 00:15:08,966 EXPLOSION IN TERMS OF 534 00:15:08,966 --> 00:15:11,166 PUBLICITY AND OUTRAGE BUT 535 00:15:11,166 --> 00:15:11,966 I DON'T SEE THAT 536 00:15:11,966 --> 00:15:14,266 ANYBODY'S EVER CHARTED 537 00:15:14,266 --> 00:15:15,600 THIS BUT I'M GUESSING ON 538 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,100 THESE ISSUES THAT ARE THE 539 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:18,066 AS PRESSING YOU'RE GOING 540 00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:19,366 TO HAVE SEVERAL YEARS AGO 541 00:15:19,366 --> 00:15:20,400 AND PART OF IS BECAUSE 542 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,900 PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE THESE 543 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:23,533 WORTHWHILE DISCUSSIONS 544 00:15:23,533 --> 00:15:25,133 BUT WHAT IF? 545 00:15:25,133 --> 00:15:27,466 WHAT IF SOMEBODY IS 546 00:15:27,466 --> 00:15:29,300 BUYING MY CAR, WHAT IF 547 00:15:29,300 --> 00:15:30,500 SOMEBODY IS DOING THIS 548 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,933 AND THERE ARE ALWAYS 549 00:15:32,933 --> 00:15:34,566 THOSE WHAT IF SCENARIOS 550 00:15:34,566 --> 00:15:35,800 THAT NEED TO WORK THROUGH 551 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,700 AND THOSE TAKE TIME. 552 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:38,933 THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO 553 00:15:38,933 --> 00:15:42,266 BE THAT BIG BROTHER 554 00:15:42,266 --> 00:15:43,133 LURKING THING, ANYTIME 555 00:15:43,133 --> 00:15:49,300 YOU HAVE A CAMERA THERE'S 556 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:49,900 A PROBLEM. 557 00:15:49,900 --> 00:15:51,400 >>> WE TALKED LAST WEEK 558 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,966 ABOUT THE SLIPPERY SLOPE 559 00:15:52,966 --> 00:15:53,833 ARGUMENT AND I THINK 560 00:15:53,833 --> 00:15:55,266 THERE'S A LOT OF VALIDITY 561 00:15:55,266 --> 00:15:57,000 TO THAT ARGUMENT. 562 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,100 IT'S ALSO AN ARGUMENT YOU 563 00:15:58,100 --> 00:15:59,500 HEAR ON THIS ISSUE A LOT 564 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:01,300 WHICH IS LISTEN, A FEW 565 00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:03,533 CAMERAS, EVEN IN THE 566 00:16:03,533 --> 00:16:05,966 SENATE COMMITTEE THIS 567 00:16:05,966 --> 00:16:08,333 WEEK, YES, BUT MY GOD 568 00:16:08,333 --> 00:16:09,133 WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT 569 00:16:09,133 --> 00:16:10,366 CAMERAS AT RED LIGHTS IN 570 00:16:10,366 --> 00:16:11,033 INDIANA AND THAT'S A LOT 571 00:16:11,033 --> 00:16:13,333 OF PEOPLE'S HESITATION ON 572 00:16:13,333 --> 00:16:14,433 THIS BILL THAT. 573 00:16:14,433 --> 00:16:15,300 A VALID CONCERN? 574 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:17,733 >> IT IS A VALID CONCERN 575 00:16:17,733 --> 00:16:20,533 BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF 576 00:16:20,533 --> 00:16:23,866 WAYS TO USE TECHNOLOGY 577 00:16:23,866 --> 00:16:24,633 THAT LAWMAKERS AREN'T 578 00:16:24,633 --> 00:16:26,066 COMFORTABLE WITH. 579 00:16:26,066 --> 00:16:27,800 HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S 580 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,433 BE HONEST, THIS BILL 581 00:16:29,433 --> 00:16:30,833 HARDLY DOES ANYTHING. 582 00:16:30,833 --> 00:16:32,633 THE FOUR PLACES IN THE 583 00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:34,800 STATE YOU CAN PUT 584 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,400 CAMERAS, YOU HAVE TO BE 585 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,033 GOING HE'S 11 OVER, IT 586 00:16:38,033 --> 00:16:42,266 DOESN'T EVEN GIVE YOU A 587 00:16:42,266 --> 00:16:42,733 TICKET. 588 00:16:42,733 --> 00:16:43,533 IT'S SO FAR DOWN I DON'T 589 00:16:43,533 --> 00:16:45,633 KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO 590 00:16:45,633 --> 00:16:46,500 HAVE AN IMPACT. 591 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:49,433 >> BUT WHAT I DO THINK IT 592 00:16:49,433 --> 00:16:51,966 WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON IS 593 00:16:51,966 --> 00:16:53,500 OUR OVER ALL I GUESS WAY 594 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,166 THAT WE LOOK AT 595 00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:56,133 INFRASTRUCTURE IN KEEPING 596 00:16:56,133 --> 00:16:56,933 PEOPLE SAFE BECAUSE IT'S 597 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:59,666 KIND OF A NO BRAINER TO 598 00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:01,066 KEEP CONSTRUCTION WORKERS 599 00:17:01,066 --> 00:17:01,666 SAFE. 600 00:17:01,666 --> 00:17:02,166 AND THIS IS APARTMENT 601 00:17:02,166 --> 00:17:05,300 BUILDING PART OF THE 602 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:06,533 LARGER VISION ZERO ISSUE 603 00:17:06,533 --> 00:17:07,700 AND THIS IS NOT JUST 604 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:09,200 ABOUT CONSTRUCTION 605 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,433 WORKERS, WE ARE WOEFULLY 606 00:17:10,433 --> 00:17:13,133 BEHIND ON KEEPING 607 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:14,933 PEDESTRIANS SAFE AND 608 00:17:14,933 --> 00:17:16,666 CYCLERS SAFE SO IF WE CAN 609 00:17:16,666 --> 00:17:18,500 START HERE, IT IS A LONG 610 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,033 PROCESS, START HERE BUT 611 00:17:20,033 --> 00:17:21,733 HAVE START TO INFORM THE 612 00:17:21,733 --> 00:17:22,566 TEXTURE OF THIS 613 00:17:22,566 --> 00:17:23,366 PARTICULAR LANDSCAPE, I 614 00:17:23,366 --> 00:17:25,533 THINK IT'S A PILOTMENT 615 00:17:25,533 --> 00:17:26,000 THERE'S GOING TO BE 616 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,633 THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT 617 00:17:27,633 --> 00:17:29,366 BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD 618 00:17:29,366 --> 00:17:31,166 START AND I HOPE IT OPENS 619 00:17:31,166 --> 00:17:33,566 UP A MORE CONVERSATION ON 620 00:17:33,566 --> 00:17:33,766 THIS. 621 00:17:33,766 --> 00:17:34,966 >> ONE THING TOO THOUGH 622 00:17:34,966 --> 00:17:35,833 THINKING ABOUT THE 623 00:17:35,833 --> 00:17:37,566 LONG-TERM FUTURE OF DO WE 624 00:17:37,566 --> 00:17:39,066 GO -- ONCE WE DO THE 625 00:17:39,066 --> 00:17:40,133 PILOT PROGRAM DO WE 626 00:17:40,133 --> 00:17:41,633 SPREAD IT TO MORE SITES 627 00:17:41,633 --> 00:17:43,166 OR PUT CAMERAS IN 628 00:17:43,166 --> 00:17:44,900 DIFFERENT PLACES. 629 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:46,000 LAWMAKERS HAVE TALKED FOR 630 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,533 YEARS ON THIS BILL ABOUT 631 00:17:47,533 --> 00:17:48,766 HOW THEY AND THEIR 632 00:17:48,766 --> 00:17:52,900 CONSTITUENTS COMPLAIN TO 633 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:54,400 THEM ABOUT HOW THEY GOT A 634 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,333 TICKET IN THE MAIL FROM 635 00:17:57,333 --> 00:17:58,266 SOMEWHERE THEY'VE NEVER 636 00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:01,566 BEEN. 637 00:18:01,566 --> 00:18:04,500 RANDY TALKED ABOUT IT. 638 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,233 HE GOT A TICKET IN 639 00:18:07,233 --> 00:18:09,500 MARYLAND AND HE HADN'T 640 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,500 BEEN TO MARYLAND IN 641 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:13,066 YEARS, BUT ONCE LAWMAKERS 642 00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:14,166 GET ANGRY PHONE CALLS 643 00:18:14,166 --> 00:18:17,133 FROM CONSTITUENTS SAYING 644 00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:21,866 I GOT A TO THE BEST OF MY 645 00:18:21,866 --> 00:18:22,500 TICKET DOES THAT STOP 646 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:22,766 PROGRESS? 647 00:18:22,766 --> 00:18:25,433 >> I THINK THOSE ARE FAR 648 00:18:25,433 --> 00:18:26,733 AND FEW BETWEEN AND THEIR 649 00:18:26,733 --> 00:18:29,900 EASILY RESOLVED AND IF 650 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:31,300 YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL 651 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:32,400 TREND, RED LIGHT CAMERAS 652 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,600 HAD THEIR DAY AND IT'S 653 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,033 OVER. 654 00:18:34,033 --> 00:18:37,066 THE TREND IS THEY ARE -- 655 00:18:37,066 --> 00:18:39,033 CITIES CAN TOWN ARE 656 00:18:39,033 --> 00:18:40,533 PULLING THEM OUT IN IN 657 00:18:40,533 --> 00:18:42,366 FAVOR OF MORE TARGETED DO 658 00:18:42,366 --> 00:18:45,033 WE PUT THEM ON A SCHOOL 659 00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:46,933 BUS ARM, DO WE PUT THEM 660 00:18:46,933 --> 00:18:48,400 IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE, 661 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,833 AND THERE'S MORE 662 00:18:51,833 --> 00:18:52,666 FATALITIES AMONG 663 00:18:52,666 --> 00:18:54,700 MOTORISTS THAN WORKERS. 664 00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:55,200 >> EACH WEEK WE POST AN 665 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,466 ONLINE POLL QUESTION AND 666 00:18:58,466 --> 00:19:01,766 THIS WE CAN'S QUESTION IS 667 00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:04,033 HOW OLD JANUARY PUT 668 00:19:04,033 --> 00:19:05,466 CAMERAS IN CONSTRUCTION 669 00:19:05,466 --> 00:19:06,700 OTHERWISE. 670 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:07,700 LAST WEEK WE ASKED YOU IF 671 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:09,100 FORMER SENATE CANDIDATE 672 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:10,633 IS CORRECT ONLY MODERATE 673 00:19:10,633 --> 00:19:11,866 DEMOCRATS CAN WIN IN THE 674 00:19:11,866 --> 00:19:13,366 STATE OF INDIANA. 675 00:19:13,366 --> 00:19:15,366 79 PERCENT OF YOU SAY 676 00:19:15,366 --> 00:19:16,500 YES, 21 PERCENT OF YOU 677 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,466 SAY NO. 678 00:19:17,466 --> 00:19:18,833 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE 679 00:19:18,833 --> 00:19:22,266 PART IN THE POLL GO TO 680 00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:22,800 WFYI.ORG 681 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,666 >>> THE INDIANA ECONOMIC 682 00:19:25,666 --> 00:19:26,233 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION 683 00:19:26,233 --> 00:19:26,733 SPENT 125 MILLION-DOLLAR 684 00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,766 IN THE 2022 TO BUY LAND 685 00:19:28,766 --> 00:19:30,833 IN BOONE COUNTY FOR A 686 00:19:30,833 --> 00:19:32,866 PROPOSED ADVANCE 687 00:19:32,866 --> 00:19:36,000 MANUFACTURING DISTRICT. 688 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,333 >> THE IEDC SECURED 689 00:19:41,333 --> 00:19:42,833 9,000 ACRES FOR THE LEAP 690 00:19:42,833 --> 00:19:44,200 LEBANON INNOVATION AND 691 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:44,666 RESEARCH DISTRICT AND 692 00:19:44,666 --> 00:19:45,800 ACCORDING TO THE REPORT 693 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,766 THE AGENCY PAID MORE THAN 694 00:19:47,766 --> 00:19:48,766 SIX TIME THES THE MARKET 695 00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:49,866 VALUE FOR THE LAND IT 696 00:19:49,866 --> 00:19:51,166 BOUGHT LAST YEAR MOST OF 697 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:53,266 IT AGRICULTURE IT'S 698 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:55,133 AGRICULTURAL PARCELS. 699 00:19:55,133 --> 00:19:57,966 THE IEDC DOESN'T WANT TO 700 00:19:57,966 --> 00:19:59,600 STOP ITS EFFORTS AND IT'S 701 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,766 REQUESTING A LAND 702 00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:01,800 ACQUISITION FUND TO THE 703 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,000 TUNE OF 704 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,433 150 MILLION-DOLLARS. 705 00:20:04,433 --> 00:20:07,233 >>> NIKI IS THAT A 706 00:20:07,233 --> 00:20:08,533 FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE USE 707 00:20:08,533 --> 00:20:10,933 OF PUBLIC DOLLARS? 708 00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:12,733 >> IT'S PHILOSOPHICAL. 709 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,000 THIS IS A ENOUGH THING 710 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,800 WE'RE TRYING WHERE THE 711 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,166 STATE IS GOING TO BE ON 712 00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:18,833 THE HOOK TO BUILD THIS 713 00:20:18,833 --> 00:20:20,000 AND THEY WILL COME. 714 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,433 WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF 715 00:20:21,433 --> 00:20:22,333 THEY BUILD IT AND THEY 716 00:20:22,333 --> 00:20:22,833 WILL COME. 717 00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:24,200 I DO WANT THE SAY A 718 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,133 COUPLE THINGS, FIRST OF 719 00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:27,900 ALL THEY ONLY BOUGHT 720 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:29,666 ABOUT 1500 ACRES SO FAR, 721 00:20:29,666 --> 00:20:30,700 THE REST IS OPTIONS SO 722 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,600 THIS IS GOING TO BET REAL 723 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,800 EXPENSIVE AND WE DON'T 724 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,300 KNOW ANYTHING YET ABOUT 725 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,666 ARE THE COMPANIES GOING 726 00:20:36,666 --> 00:20:37,966 TO BUY IT BACK? 727 00:20:37,966 --> 00:20:40,166 ARE THEY GOING TO PAY THE 728 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:40,766 SAME RATE? 729 00:20:40,766 --> 00:20:42,566 WE HAVE EC IDEA, WE'RE 730 00:20:42,566 --> 00:20:45,666 JUST SHELLING OUT 731 00:20:45,666 --> 00:20:48,566 TAXPAYER MONEY. 732 00:20:48,566 --> 00:20:51,133 AND SECONDLY THERE'S HUGE 733 00:20:51,133 --> 00:20:52,233 FLUCTUATIONS, THE MARKET 734 00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:54,266 VALUE MIGHT HAVE BEEN 735 00:20:54,266 --> 00:20:55,000 150,000 THEY PAID A 736 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,600 MILLION BUT THE ISSUE IS 737 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,700 INDIANA USES SOMETHING 738 00:20:58,700 --> 00:20:59,766 CALLED MARKET VALUE AND 739 00:20:59,766 --> 00:21:02,833 USE AND SO THAT MEAN IT 740 00:21:02,833 --> 00:21:04,500 IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE IT'S 741 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,633 GETTING COMPARED TO OTHER 742 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:08,966 HOUSES BUT WE DON'T 743 00:21:08,966 --> 00:21:11,000 TRANSLATE INTO WHEN WE'RE 744 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,366 SHIFTING THE USE -- 745 00:21:13,366 --> 00:21:14,666 >> PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE 746 00:21:14,666 --> 00:21:15,900 THE SELL IT FOR MORE THAN 747 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,500 THEY BOUGHT IT OR MORE 748 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:20,533 THAN IT WAS WORTH WHEN 749 00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:21,400 THEY BOUGHT IT BUT -- 750 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,700 >> IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE 751 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:24,800 A DIRECT COMPARISON ON 752 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,533 USE BECAUSE IT'S NO 753 00:21:26,533 --> 00:21:28,666 LONGER GOING TO BE USED 754 00:21:28,666 --> 00:21:33,966 AS A RESIDENCE. 755 00:21:33,966 --> 00:21:35,766 >> NIKI POINTE OUT WE'RE 756 00:21:35,766 --> 00:21:37,400 TRYING SOMETHING NEW BUT 757 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,900 WE'RE NOT GOING HALFWAY, 758 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:42,833 THIS IS NOT A PILOT 759 00:21:42,833 --> 00:21:43,266 PROJECT. 760 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:44,366 THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY 761 00:21:44,366 --> 00:21:45,900 BEING SETTLEMENT ON 762 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:46,933 SOMETHING WE HOPE MIGHT 763 00:21:46,933 --> 00:21:47,266 HAPPEN, RIGHT? 764 00:21:47,266 --> 00:21:49,500 >> IT IS, ALTHOUGH 765 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:50,766 REMEMBER THE QUAINT OLD 766 00:21:50,766 --> 00:21:51,700 DAYS WHERE THIS ARGUMENT 767 00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:55,333 WOULD HAVE CENTERED ON 768 00:21:55,333 --> 00:21:59,233 EMINENT DOMAIN? 769 00:21:59,233 --> 00:22:00,066 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 770 00:22:00,066 --> 00:22:00,900 MODERN MANUFACTURING AND 771 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:02,666 THE TIMETABLES FOR 772 00:22:02,666 --> 00:22:03,166 DEVELOPMENT IF YOU WANT 773 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:04,633 TO GET INTO THIS GAME IT 774 00:22:04,633 --> 00:22:05,466 SEEMS TO ME YOU HAVE TO 775 00:22:05,466 --> 00:22:06,400 GO WHOLE HOG. 776 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,933 YOU CAN'T JUST SAY 777 00:22:07,933 --> 00:22:10,966 EMITTED DO THIS, WE MIGHT 778 00:22:10,966 --> 00:22:12,566 NOT AND YES THERE'S A 779 00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:15,033 FILL SOP CALF DEBATE TO 780 00:22:15,033 --> 00:22:17,233 HAVE HAD HERE BUT STATE 781 00:22:17,233 --> 00:22:18,366 LEVEL AND FEDERAL LEVEL 782 00:22:18,366 --> 00:22:19,466 WHERE GOVERNMENT 783 00:22:19,466 --> 00:22:20,833 SOMETIMES IT TAKES 784 00:22:20,833 --> 00:22:25,000 GOVERNMENT TO TAKE ON THE 785 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,833 RISK TO DO SOMETHING 786 00:22:25,833 --> 00:22:26,433 SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE 787 00:22:26,433 --> 00:22:27,700 THERE'S NOT THE EARLY 788 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:31,066 STIFF FOR COMPANIES. 789 00:22:31,066 --> 00:22:32,733 >> IS THIS A GAMBLE? 790 00:22:32,733 --> 00:22:35,166 >> IT'S THE NEXT 791 00:22:35,166 --> 00:22:36,566 EVOLUTION, YOU TALK ABOUT 792 00:22:36,566 --> 00:22:38,833 CREDIT REPLACEMENT, 793 00:22:38,833 --> 00:22:41,966 CREDIT FORGIVENESS IT'S A 794 00:22:41,966 --> 00:22:42,466 HIGHLY COMPETITIVE 795 00:22:42,466 --> 00:22:43,466 ENVIRONMENT AND THIS IS A 796 00:22:43,466 --> 00:22:44,733 NEW TOOL TO DO THAT. 797 00:22:44,733 --> 00:22:47,200 >> I MEMBERSHIPPED IN THE 798 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,733 PIECE THEY'VE BEEN DOING 799 00:22:47,733 --> 00:22:49,100 THIS FOR A WHILE, THERE'S 800 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,500 MORE TO COME BUT THIS IS 801 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:52,866 NOT IF ONLY PART OF THE 802 00:22:52,866 --> 00:22:55,866 STATE THEY WANT TO DO 803 00:22:55,866 --> 00:22:56,900 THIS IN, THIS IS PART OF 804 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:58,300 THE NEW STATE BUDGET AND 805 00:22:58,300 --> 00:22:59,633 WE'LL SEE WHAT THE SENATE 806 00:22:59,633 --> 00:23:01,300 HAS TO SAY AND WHAT THE 807 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:02,233 FINAL PRODUCT HAS TO SAY 808 00:23:02,233 --> 00:23:04,766 BUT IS THIS IS IT FUTURE 809 00:23:04,766 --> 00:23:05,066 OF INDIANA? 810 00:23:05,066 --> 00:23:07,433 >> IT MAY BE AND WE MAY 811 00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:09,133 NOT KNOW RIGHT NOW IF 812 00:23:09,133 --> 00:23:10,266 IT'S GOING TO PAY OFF AND 813 00:23:10,266 --> 00:23:13,366 IF IT DOESN'T THERE'S A 814 00:23:13,366 --> 00:23:19,933 HUGE PRICE TAG AT A TIME 815 00:23:19,933 --> 00:23:22,000 WHEN THERE ARE A LOT OF 816 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,866 OTHER BUDGET ASKS, AND 817 00:23:22,866 --> 00:23:25,333 IT'S TAXPAYER DOLLARS. 818 00:23:25,333 --> 00:23:27,566 IT'S THE IEDC. 819 00:23:27,566 --> 00:23:28,466 WHICH THE ASSUMPTION HAS 820 00:23:28,466 --> 00:23:30,200 BEEN ABLE TO PLAY BY 821 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,666 DIFFERENT RULES WHEN IT 822 00:23:31,666 --> 00:23:33,233 COMES TO TRANSPARENCY SO 823 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:34,266 THEY KNOW FOLK ARE 824 00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:36,500 WATCHING THEM AND IT'S 825 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:37,600 YET TO BE SEEN. 826 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,666 >> ARE YOU SURPRISE HOUSE 827 00:23:40,666 --> 00:23:42,400 REPUBLICANS GAVE THEM 828 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,200 EVERYTHING THEY WANTED? 829 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,633 >> HONESTLY WE DON'T KNOW 830 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:47,766 WHAT THEY WANT. 831 00:23:47,766 --> 00:23:51,800 FOR 1500 ACRES, WHEN YOU 832 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,233 ADD IN AL THE ACREAGE, 833 00:23:55,233 --> 00:23:55,766 PLUS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO 834 00:23:55,766 --> 00:23:57,400 DEAL WITH THE WATER, THIS 835 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,733 COULD BE A BILLION DOLLAR 836 00:23:58,733 --> 00:24:01,333 OUT LAY BUT WE DON'T KNOW 837 00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:03,766 IT BECAUSE THEY'RE SORT 838 00:24:03,766 --> 00:24:05,133 OF PEACE MEALING THE 839 00:24:05,133 --> 00:24:05,433 INFORMATION. 840 00:24:05,433 --> 00:24:06,933 >> AND IT COULD PAY OFF 841 00:24:06,933 --> 00:24:07,900 BAA IT MIGHT NOT. 842 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:11,466 >>> FINALLY THE THE NCAA 843 00:24:11,466 --> 00:24:12,266 TOURNAMENTS HAVE BEGUN. 844 00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:15,333 INDIANA AND PURDUE HAVE 845 00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:17,366 TEAMS IN THERE AND THE 846 00:24:17,366 --> 00:24:19,266 WOMEN AND MEN BOTH 847 00:24:19,266 --> 00:24:22,133 SECURING NUMBER OF ONE 848 00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:22,700 SEEDS. 849 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:25,466 THE MILES INJURY MAY HURT 850 00:24:25,466 --> 00:24:26,066 THEIR CHANCE. 851 00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:29,133 MIKE O'BRIEN, WHICH 852 00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:30,933 INDIANA TEAM MAKES THE 853 00:24:30,933 --> 00:24:31,233 TOURNAMENT? 854 00:24:31,233 --> 00:24:35,700 >> IT'S GOT TO BE THE 855 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,533 HOOSIER TEAM. 856 00:24:38,533 --> 00:24:40,966 I'M A BOILERMAKER AND I 857 00:24:40,966 --> 00:24:42,466 DO VALUE MY LIFE SO. 858 00:24:42,466 --> 00:24:45,600 >> IS PURDUE MEN, WHO 859 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:45,833 MAKES -- 860 00:24:45,833 --> 00:24:49,266 >> I WOULD GO WITH THE 861 00:24:49,266 --> 00:24:49,666 PURDUE MEN. 862 00:24:49,666 --> 00:24:50,333 >> I'M CONFUSED BY THE 863 00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:52,566 QUESTION BECAUSE IF THE 864 00:24:52,566 --> 00:24:55,000 MEN AND WOMEN BOTH WIN 865 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,066 HOW DO WE SAY -- 866 00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:04,800 >> WE ASKED TODD HOUSE 867 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,600 TON AND HE SAID UNLIKE 868 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,900 THE GOVERNOR HERE'S NOT 869 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,433 DOING IU ONE AND PURDUE 870 00:25:10,433 --> 00:25:12,966 THE OTHER WHICH MEANS HE 871 00:25:12,966 --> 00:25:13,466 DOES NOT HAVE POLITICAL 872 00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:15,133 AMBITIONS IN THE STATE OF 873 00:25:15,133 --> 00:25:16,000 INDIANA. 874 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,966 I THINK IU WOMEN GOING 875 00:25:18,966 --> 00:25:19,633 BUT I DON'T SEE SOUTH 876 00:25:19,633 --> 00:25:22,633 CAROLINA LOSING TO ANYONE 877 00:25:22,633 --> 00:25:23,033 THIS YEAR. 878 00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:23,733 THAT IS INDIANA WEEK IN 879 00:25:23,733 --> 00:25:26,166 REVIEW FOR THIS WEEK. 880 00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:27,766 OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT 881 00:25:27,766 --> 00:25:28,266 ELISE SHROCK, REPUBLICAN 882 00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:28,666 MIKE O'BRIEN, JON 883 00:25:28,666 --> 00:25:29,066 SCHWANTES, HOST OF 884 00:25:29,066 --> 00:25:29,533 INDIANA LAWMAKERS, AND 885 00:25:29,533 --> 00:25:29,833 NIKI KELLY, 886 00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:30,300 EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF THE 887 00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:30,666 INDIANA CAPITAL 888 00:25:30,666 --> 00:25:37,333 CHRONICLE. 889 00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:37,866 YOU CAN FIND INDIANA WEEK 890 00:25:37,866 --> 00:25:38,366 IN REVIEW'S PODCAST AND 891 00:25:38,366 --> 00:25:39,533 EPISODES AT WFYI.ORG/IWIR 892 00:25:39,533 --> 00:25:45,966 OR ON THE PBS VIDEO AP. 893 00:25:45,966 --> 00:25:47,366 I'M BRANDON SMITH OF 894 00:25:47,366 --> 00:25:48,200 INDIANA PUBLIC 895 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,900 BROADCASTING, JOIN US 896 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:50,733 NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 897 00:25:50,733 --> 00:25:54,500 CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA 898 00:25:54,500 --> 00:26:38,600 WEEK.