WEBVTT 00:03.219 --> 00:04.652 align:start >>BRANDON: ANOTHER PENCE IN 00:04.655 --> 00:05.420 align:start CONGRESS? 00:05.423 --> 00:06.788 align:start A SPRAWLING PROFILE OF THE VICE 00:06.791 --> 00:08.690 align:start PRESIDENT. 00:08.693 --> 00:10.658 align:start THAT, PLUS ANOTHER GO AT MEXICO 00:10.661 --> 00:12.427 align:start JOE, DISASTER RELIEF, AND MORE 00:12.430 --> 00:13.294 align:start ON INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR 00:13.297 --> 00:25.473 align:start THE WEEK ENDING OCTOBER 20TH, 00:25.476 --> 00:44.692 align:start 2017. 00:44.695 --> 00:46.327 align:start [MUSIC] 00:46.330 --> 00:47.729 align:start >>BRANDON: THIS WEEK, GREG 00:47.732 --> 00:48.996 align:start PENCE, OLDER BROTHER OF VICE 00:48.999 --> 00:50.164 align:start PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE, LAUNCHED A 00:50.167 --> 00:53.267 align:start BID FOR INDIANA'S 6TH 00:53.270 --> 00:54.836 align:start CONGRESSIONAL SEAT. 00:54.839 --> 00:56.337 align:start GREG PENCE ROLLED OUT A WEBSITE, 00:56.340 --> 00:57.705 align:start TWITTER ACCOUNT, AND VIDEO 00:57.708 --> 00:58.740 align:start ANNOUNCING HIS BID TO REPLACE 00:58.743 --> 01:00.374 align:start LUKE MESSER, WHO'S LEAVING HIS 01:00.377 --> 01:01.709 align:start HOUSE SEAT TO RUN FOR SENATE. 01:01.712 --> 01:02.944 align:start A COLUMBUS NATIVE, PENCE HAS 01:02.947 --> 01:04.412 align:start NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE, 01:04.415 --> 01:05.213 align:start THOUGH MOST RECENTLY HE'S BEEN 01:05.216 --> 01:06.647 align:start PART OF MESSER'S SENATE CAMPAIGN 01:06.650 --> 01:07.715 align:start TEAM. 01:07.718 --> 01:09.317 align:start THE CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCEMENT VIDEO 01:09.320 --> 01:10.618 align:start LABELS PENCE A FISCAL 01:10.621 --> 01:11.519 align:start CONSERVATIVE WHO SUPPORTS AN 01:11.522 --> 01:12.920 align:start ANTI-ABORTION, PRO-2ND AMENDMENT 01:12.923 --> 01:14.288 align:start PLATFORM. 01:14.291 --> 01:14.989 align:start AND GREG PENCE SAYS HE'LL BE A 01:14.992 --> 01:16.657 align:start STRONG PROPONENT OF PRESIDENT 01:16.660 --> 01:18.192 align:start TRUMP'S AGENDA. 01:18.195 --> 01:19.393 align:start PENCE, WHO OWNS ANTIQUE MALLS IN 01:19.396 --> 01:21.095 align:start THE STATE, JOINS AN INCREASINGLY 01:21.098 --> 01:22.563 align:start CROWDED GOP PRIMARY THAT 01:22.566 --> 01:24.098 align:start INCLUDES STATE SENATOR MICHAEL 01:24.101 --> 01:25.266 align:start CRIDER, MUNCIE SMALL BUSINESS 01:25.269 --> 01:26.000 align:start OWNER JONATHAN LAMB, AND 01:26.003 --> 01:28.903 align:start FORTVILLE BUSINESSMAN STEPHEN 01:28.906 --> 01:30.171 align:start MACKENZIE. 01:30.174 --> 01:30.938 align:start IS GREG PENCE THE FAVORITE TO 01:30.941 --> 01:32.406 align:start WIN INDIANA'S 6TH DISTRICT HOUSE 01:32.409 --> 01:33.775 align:start SEAT? 01:33.778 --> 01:35.777 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 01:35.780 --> 01:38.112 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL: 01:38.115 --> 01:39.247 align:start DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY, REPUBLICAN 01:39.250 --> 01:40.782 align:start MIKE O'BRIEN, JON SCHWANTES, 01:40.785 --> 01:41.916 align:start HOST OF INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND 01:41.919 --> 01:42.717 align:start JOHN KETZENBERGER, PRESIDENT OF 01:42.720 --> 01:44.285 align:start THE INDIANA FISCAL POLICY 01:44.288 --> 01:45.820 align:start INSTITUTE. 01:45.823 --> 01:46.554 align:start I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 01:46.557 --> 01:47.388 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER BRANDON 01:47.391 --> 01:48.689 align:start SMITH. 01:48.692 --> 01:49.557 align:start ANN DELANEY, PENCE HAS A FAMOUS 01:49.560 --> 01:51.092 align:start NAME AND THE SUPPORT OF THOSE 01:51.095 --> 01:56.898 align:start DEEP POCKETS. 01:56.901 --> 01:58.099 align:start IS THAT ALL HE NEEDS? 01:58.102 --> 01:59.934 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALL 01:59.937 --> 02:02.670 align:start HE NEEDS, BUT IT GIVES HIM A LEG 02:02.673 --> 02:05.106 align:start UP AND I ASSUME HE SUPPORTS THE 02:05.109 --> 02:06.674 align:start SAME POLICIES HIS BROTHER DOES 02:06.677 --> 02:08.075 align:start SO HE WANTS TO DENY 02:08.078 --> 02:10.878 align:start CONTRACEPTION TO UNMARRIED WOMEN 02:10.881 --> 02:12.680 align:start WANTS TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT 02:12.683 --> 02:15.716 align:start DOWN DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ABORTION 02:15.719 --> 02:16.818 align:start EVEN IN RAPE AND INCEST AND LGBT 02:16.821 --> 02:19.487 align:start COMMUNITY AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS 02:19.490 --> 02:22.890 align:start SHOULD BE HUNG. 02:22.893 --> 02:24.058 align:start SO ALL YOU SEE FROM HIM IN THIS 02:24.061 --> 02:25.760 align:start ANNOUNCEMENT IS PRO-GUN. 02:25.763 --> 02:27.895 align:start AND HE WANTS TO MAKE HEALTH 02:27.898 --> 02:29.263 align:start DECISIONS FOR WOMEN. 02:29.266 --> 02:31.365 align:start YOU DON'T HEAR ECONOMIC 02:31.368 --> 02:33.067 align:start DEVELOPMENT OR MINIMUM WAGE OR 02:33.070 --> 02:34.769 align:start ANYTHING THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON 02:34.772 --> 02:36.470 align:start THE COMMUNITY HE WANTS TO 02:36.473 --> 02:37.305 align:start RESEMBLE PRESENT ALL HE TALKS 02:37.308 --> 02:40.208 align:start ABOUT OUR DIVISIVE SOCIAL ISSUES 02:40.211 --> 02:43.077 align:start THAT THE WHOLE WING OF THE PARTY 02:43.080 --> 02:44.679 align:start HAS USED BASICALLY TO STIR UP 02:44.682 --> 02:46.113 align:start HATE IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT'S 02:46.116 --> 02:48.115 align:start UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE ACTUALLY HE 02:48.118 --> 02:49.050 align:start IS PROBABLY NO DIFFERENT FROM 02:49.053 --> 02:51.485 align:start LUKE MESSER IN THAT REGARD. 02:51.488 --> 02:53.588 align:start A HORSE OF PEACE. 02:53.591 --> 02:54.288 align:start >> HE'S NEVER HELD ELECTED 02:54.291 --> 02:55.089 align:start OFFICE BEFORE. 02:55.092 --> 02:56.691 align:start SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND 02:56.694 --> 02:58.793 align:start WORKED IN STATE GOVERNMENT, BUT 02:58.796 --> 03:00.962 align:start NEVER BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE. 03:00.965 --> 03:01.963 align:start DOES HIS LAST NAME MAKE HIM A 03:01.966 --> 03:03.130 align:start FRONT RUNNER? 03:03.133 --> 03:05.032 align:start >> IT HAS TO. 03:05.035 --> 03:07.034 align:start HE'S CHECKED A COUPLE OF BOXES, 03:07.037 --> 03:09.503 align:start PUT TOGETHER A CAMPAIGN TEAM -- 03:09.506 --> 03:12.073 align:start REALLY GOOD CAMPAIGN TEAM AND 03:12.076 --> 03:13.474 align:start THAT NEWS WILL BE OUT SHORTLY. 03:13.477 --> 03:14.775 align:start FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT HE'S 03:14.778 --> 03:20.047 align:start BEEN ABLE TO RAISE MONEY. 03:20.050 --> 03:20.915 align:start AND IN A PRIMARY ELECTION 03:20.918 --> 03:21.883 align:start INTERACTING WITH PARTY 03:21.886 --> 03:24.051 align:start ORGANIZATIONS AND BEING ON THE 03:24.054 --> 03:24.919 align:start GROUND AT PARTY EVENTS AND 03:24.922 --> 03:26.721 align:start HAVING DOOR KNOCKERS AND PHONE 03:26.724 --> 03:28.923 align:start BANKS AND ALL THE GRASSROOTS 03:28.926 --> 03:34.495 align:start THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO WIN HE 03:34.498 --> 03:36.097 align:start WILL NEED TO BRING AND MIKE 03:36.100 --> 03:38.132 align:start KREIDER FROM HANCOCK COUNTY FROM 03:38.135 --> 03:39.000 align:start GREENFIELD ALREADY IN THE RACE. 03:39.003 --> 03:41.903 align:start PRETTY WELL-KNOWN. 03:41.906 --> 03:42.536 align:start DON'T DISCOUNT HIM. 03:42.539 --> 03:42.937 align:start HE'S A VERY WELL-REGARDED 03:42.940 --> 03:45.506 align:start LEGISLATOR. 03:45.509 --> 03:47.875 align:start HE'S VERY ACCOMPLISHED. 03:47.878 --> 03:48.709 align:start I DON'T THINK THIS IS OVER AND 03:48.712 --> 03:49.877 align:start DONE YET. 03:49.880 --> 03:51.512 align:start I THINK HE WILL HAVE TO WORK 03:51.515 --> 03:52.980 align:start FORWARD AND HE KNOWS THAT BUT IT 03:52.983 --> 03:53.547 align:start WILL BE A CAMPAIGN BUILDING IN 03:53.550 --> 03:55.549 align:start THE SPRING. 03:55.552 --> 03:57.652 align:start >> DOES HE HAVE A SHOT? 03:57.655 --> 04:00.054 align:start >> YES, HE DOES FOR THE 04:00.057 --> 04:01.522 align:start REASONS MIKE SUGGESTED, BUT I 04:01.525 --> 04:03.791 align:start AGREE AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE OF 04:03.794 --> 04:05.226 align:start THE NAME ID AND WHAT I PRESUME 04:05.229 --> 04:09.664 align:start WOULD BE THE ENTHUSIASTIC 04:09.667 --> 04:10.464 align:start SUPPORT OF LUKE MESSER THE 04:10.467 --> 04:14.669 align:start INCUMBENT KEEP IN MIND THEY'VE 04:14.672 --> 04:15.303 align:start BEEN ALIGNED CLOSELY WITH GREG 04:15.306 --> 04:17.939 align:start PENCE WHO STARRED IN HIS 04:17.942 --> 04:19.273 align:start ANNOUNCEMENT VIDEO. 04:19.276 --> 04:20.908 align:start SO I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF HE DID 04:20.911 --> 04:21.909 align:start NOT RETURN THE FAVOR NOW. 04:21.912 --> 04:24.045 align:start SO THAT'S A FACT. 04:24.048 --> 04:29.884 align:start IT IS IN TERMS OF GEOGRAPHY IT'S 04:29.887 --> 04:31.452 align:start HIS DISTRICT SO MOSTLY -- SO YOU 04:31.455 --> 04:33.921 align:start DO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE 04:33.924 --> 04:36.257 align:start NOT ONLY MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH 04:36.260 --> 04:37.558 align:start LUKE MESSER IN TERMS OF AN 04:37.561 --> 04:39.927 align:start ENDORSEMENT BUT WHICH PENCE ARE 04:39.930 --> 04:44.632 align:start WE VOTING FOR AND I THINK YOU 04:44.635 --> 04:47.702 align:start HAVE TO GIVE HIM THE ADVANTAGE. 04:47.705 --> 04:48.069 align:start >> NOT AT A FIRST NAME BASIS 04:48.072 --> 04:48.469 align:start ANYMORE. 04:48.472 --> 04:50.071 align:start [CHUCKLING] 04:50.074 --> 04:52.440 align:start >> I WANT TO ASK ABOUT 04:52.443 --> 04:54.976 align:start KREIDER, THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE 04:54.979 --> 04:56.077 align:start ROADS COMMITTEE SO HE'S GOT THE 04:56.080 --> 04:57.278 align:start GUEST TECH HEIGHT HANGING OVER 04:57.281 --> 04:59.180 align:start HIS HEAD. 04:59.183 --> 05:03.250 align:start WILL THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? 05:03.253 --> 05:03.751 align:start >> YOU ALSO CALL A CHALLENGE 05:03.754 --> 05:09.256 align:start WITH GREGG PENCE. 05:09.259 --> 05:10.858 align:start >> THE ANALYSIS TAKEN I THINK 05:10.861 --> 05:13.127 align:start THAT REFERENDUM -- THE PRIMARY 05:13.130 --> 05:17.431 align:start SYSTEM HAS BECOME A REFERENDUM 05:17.434 --> 05:19.500 align:start ON THE EXTREMES AND ON THE 05:19.503 --> 05:20.634 align:start REPUBLICAN SIDE IT MEANS 05:20.637 --> 05:22.670 align:start CONSERVATIVE VOTERS TEND TO COME 05:22.673 --> 05:25.206 align:start OUT IN GREATER NUMBERS THEN 05:25.209 --> 05:25.940 align:start THOSE WHO ARE MODERATES. 05:25.943 --> 05:27.842 align:start IF THAT'S THE CASE I'M SURE THE 05:27.845 --> 05:31.846 align:start GASOLINE TAX WILL BE A BIG ISSUE 05:31.849 --> 05:33.114 align:start THAT GREGG PENCE USES TO HAMMER 05:33.117 --> 05:35.916 align:start ON SENATOR KREIDER. 05:35.919 --> 05:37.651 align:start IT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE IT'S A 05:37.654 --> 05:39.320 align:start VERY REASONABLE SITUATION AND 05:39.323 --> 05:41.455 align:start POSITION FOR HIM BUT IT'S LIKELY 05:41.458 --> 05:43.457 align:start TO BE USED AGAINST HIM IN A 05:43.460 --> 05:44.358 align:start PRIMARY SETTING WHERE YOU HAVE 05:44.361 --> 05:45.893 align:start CONSERVATIVE FOCUS. 05:45.896 --> 05:49.663 align:start >> IT CROSSED MY MIND THAT AS 05:49.666 --> 05:52.266 align:start CLOSE AS MESSER AND HENCE SENIOR 05:52.269 --> 05:54.468 align:start ARE IS HE A PLACEHOLDER? 05:54.471 --> 05:54.869 align:start DOES HE GET THE NOMINATION FOR 05:54.872 --> 05:57.304 align:start SENATE? 05:57.307 --> 05:58.205 align:start >> THAT'S UNLIKELY I THINK 05:58.208 --> 06:00.074 align:start GREG PENCE HAS DISCOVERED 06:00.077 --> 06:01.108 align:start POLITICAL AMBITIONS AS OF LATE. 06:01.111 --> 06:02.376 align:start >>>TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 06:02.379 --> 06:03.244 align:start EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 06:03.247 --> 06:04.011 align:start UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 06:04.014 --> 06:04.645 align:start QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR 06:04.648 --> 06:05.246 align:start ICEMILLER E-MAIL AND TEXT 06:05.249 --> 06:06.047 align:start ALERTS. 06:06.050 --> 06:07.114 align:start THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: IS GREG 06:07.117 --> 06:07.948 align:start PENCE THE FAVORITE TO WIN AS HE 06:07.951 --> 06:09.316 align:start ENTERS THE 6TH DISTRICT U.S. 06:09.319 --> 06:10.017 align:start HOUSE RACE? 06:10.020 --> 06:11.585 align:start A. YES 06:11.588 --> 06:12.486 align:start B. NO 06:12.489 --> 06:13.721 align:start LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: HOW MUCH 06:13.724 --> 06:14.722 align:start STOCK SHOULD PEOPLE PUT INTO A 06:14.725 --> 06:16.123 align:start POLL SHOWING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 06:16.126 --> 06:21.662 align:start APPROVAL RATING IS BELOW 50 06:21.665 --> 06:24.231 align:start PERCENT IN INDIANA? 06:24.234 --> 06:24.999 align:start 62 PRESENTS A LOT, 21 PERCENT 06:25.002 --> 06:25.599 align:start SAY LITTLE, 17 PERCENT SAY NONE 06:25.602 --> 06:26.333 align:start AT ALL. 06:26.336 --> 06:27.601 align:start IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 06:27.604 --> 06:30.071 align:start IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 06:30.074 --> 06:31.472 align:start AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 06:31.475 --> 06:32.606 align:start >>>THE NEW YORKER THIS WEEK 06:32.609 --> 06:33.874 align:start PUBLISHED AN IN-DEPTH PROFILE OF 06:33.877 --> 06:35.743 align:start VICE PRESIDENT PENCE THAT AIMS 06:35.746 --> 06:39.280 align:start TO EXPLORE, IN PART, WHAT HE 06:39.283 --> 06:40.748 align:start WOULD BE LIKE AS PRESIDENT. 06:40.751 --> 06:42.249 align:start THE EXTENSIVE PIECE NOTES 06:42.252 --> 06:43.684 align:start PENCE'S LONG CONNECTION TO TOP 06:43.687 --> 06:45.553 align:start REPUBLICAN MEGA-DONORS LIKE THE 06:45.556 --> 06:46.754 align:start KOCH BROTHERS, DELVES INTO HIS 06:46.757 --> 06:47.922 align:start BACKGROUND AND HIS FAITH, AND 06:47.925 --> 06:48.689 align:start DETAILS HIS RISE TO POWER BOTH 06:48.692 --> 06:50.191 align:start IN INDIANA AND WITHIN THE TRUMP 06:50.194 --> 06:51.158 align:start CAMPAIGN. 06:51.161 --> 06:52.593 align:start IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME 06:52.596 --> 06:54.295 align:start LESS-THAN-FLATTERING 06:54.298 --> 06:55.596 align:start CHARACTERIZATIONS, INCLUDING 06:55.599 --> 06:56.664 align:start "SYCOPHANT-IN-CHIEF," A "PUPPET" 06:56.667 --> 06:57.631 align:start FOR THE KOCHS, AND AN 06:57.634 --> 06:59.066 align:start INEFFECTIVE LEADER AND 06:59.069 --> 07:00.668 align:start ADMINISTRATOR. 07:00.671 --> 07:02.703 align:start AND, NOTABLY, IT DETAILS 07:02.706 --> 07:04.238 align:start BEHIND-THE-SCENES RUMORS THAT 07:04.241 --> 07:05.773 align:start PRESIDENT TRUMP MOCKS PENCE'S 07:05.776 --> 07:07.908 align:start PIOUSNESS AND ALLEGEDLY JOKED 07:07.911 --> 07:10.945 align:start THAT PENCE WANTS TO "HANG" ALL 07:10.948 --> 07:11.912 align:start GAY PEOPLE. 07:11.915 --> 07:13.681 align:start MIKE O'BRIEN, WE'VE SEEN 07:13.684 --> 07:15.082 align:start PROFILES OF TRUMP ADMINISTRATION 07:15.085 --> 07:17.218 align:start OFFICIALS THAT HAVE SOURED THE 07:17.221 --> 07:18.752 align:start PRESIDENT ON THOSE PEOPLE. 07:18.755 --> 07:20.354 align:start CONSIDERING THE SLANT TO THIS 07:20.357 --> 07:23.624 align:start ISN'T VERY POSITIVE, WILL MIKE 07:23.627 --> 07:28.829 align:start PENCE AVOID THE DOGHOUSE WITH 07:28.832 --> 07:29.597 align:start DONALD TRUMP? 07:29.600 --> 07:33.434 align:start >> THEIR SILVER LININGS AND 07:33.437 --> 07:34.034 align:start THERE AND SOME GOOD JOKES THAT 07:34.037 --> 07:38.305 align:start WERE SCATTERED AROUND. 07:38.308 --> 07:39.306 align:start THE GOOD NEWS IS MIKE PENCE 07:39.309 --> 07:40.074 align:start CAN'T BE FIRED. 07:40.077 --> 07:44.912 align:start YOU CAN'T FIRE HIM. 07:44.915 --> 07:47.448 align:start SO HE'S NOT IT RISK OF THAT BUT 07:47.451 --> 07:49.049 align:start THIS THING WAS UP 13,000 WORD 07:49.052 --> 07:51.452 align:start DUMPSTER FAILURE AND THERE WERE 07:51.455 --> 07:52.453 align:start SOME POSITIVES AND SOME 07:52.456 --> 07:53.287 align:start NEGATIVES AND A LOT OF 07:53.290 --> 07:56.857 align:start INACCURATE -- A LOT OF THINGS 07:56.860 --> 07:58.993 align:start THAT WERE JUST -- IT WAS REALLY 07:58.996 --> 08:00.060 align:start AN OPINION PIECE OR KIND OF A 08:00.063 --> 08:02.062 align:start FEATURE PIECE IN THE NEW YORKER 08:02.065 --> 08:04.098 align:start WHICH IS NOT GOING TO BE 08:04.101 --> 08:09.236 align:start FAVORABLE ANYWAY AND IT FEATURED 08:09.239 --> 08:11.438 align:start -- THE INTERVIEW WAS PEOPLE FROM 08:11.441 --> 08:12.139 align:start INDIANA WHO HAD AN AGENDA 08:12.142 --> 08:15.042 align:start FOREVER, SO I TAKE IT WITH A 08:15.045 --> 08:19.713 align:start GRAIN OF SALT. 08:19.716 --> 08:20.447 align:start I MEAN IT WAS A SLIGHT NEGATIVE, 08:20.450 --> 08:24.218 align:start BUT PARTS WERE SO ABSURD IT'S 08:24.221 --> 08:26.020 align:start HARD TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. 08:26.023 --> 08:26.453 align:start >> THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTUAL 08:26.456 --> 08:28.022 align:start INACCURACIES. 08:28.025 --> 08:29.056 align:start DOES THAT NEGATE ANY POINTS THAT 08:29.059 --> 08:31.659 align:start MIGHT HAVE SCORED? 08:31.662 --> 08:33.260 align:start >> I DON'T THINK SO. 08:33.263 --> 08:34.528 align:start YOU THINK TRUMP IS BAD, LOOK AT 08:34.531 --> 08:34.895 align:start THIS AND YOU THINK OH, MY 08:34.898 --> 08:38.799 align:start GOODNESS. 08:38.802 --> 08:39.633 align:start I DIDN'T THINK IT COULD GET 08:39.636 --> 08:41.402 align:start WORSE. 08:41.405 --> 08:42.002 align:start BUBBLES, WAS THAT INACCURATE? 08:42.005 --> 08:44.305 align:start 'S NICKNAME. 08:44.308 --> 08:44.672 align:start >> THE SOURCE WAS HIS BROTHER. 08:44.675 --> 08:47.875 align:start [LAUGHING] 08:47.878 --> 08:48.375 align:start >> I MIGHT SAY THAT ABOUT MY 08:48.378 --> 08:50.811 align:start YOUNGER BROTHER. 08:50.814 --> 08:52.413 align:start >> YOU WOULDN'T CALL HIM 08:52.416 --> 08:52.680 align:start BUBBLES BECAUSE HE WOULD DECK 08:52.683 --> 08:55.015 align:start YOU. 08:55.018 --> 08:56.016 align:start I'M LOOKING AT THAT AND IT'S A 08:56.019 --> 08:57.418 align:start RIDICULOUS THING ABOUT NOT 08:57.421 --> 08:58.852 align:start HAVING DINNER WITH A WOMAN 08:58.855 --> 09:01.655 align:start UNLESS HIS WIFE IS THERE BECAUSE 09:01.658 --> 09:03.591 align:start SOMEHOW SHE WILL TEMPT HIM OR 09:03.594 --> 09:04.058 align:start SEDUCE HIM IS ABSURD, BUT THAT 09:04.061 --> 09:06.527 align:start IS MIKE PENCE. 09:06.530 --> 09:08.829 align:start I THOUGHT IT WAS ON BALANCE 09:08.832 --> 09:09.863 align:start OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE THINGS TO BE 09:09.866 --> 09:11.999 align:start CORRECTED, BUT ON BALANCE IT'S 09:12.002 --> 09:14.301 align:start NEGATIVE BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT 09:14.304 --> 09:17.104 align:start HIS RECORD AND THAT IS NEGATIVE. 09:17.107 --> 09:19.206 align:start >> WHAT YOU THINK ON BALANCE? 09:19.209 --> 09:19.607 align:start >> I THOUGHT IT WAS A FAIR 09:19.610 --> 09:21.442 align:start REFLECTION. 09:21.445 --> 09:23.210 align:start YOU CAN WORRY ABOUT THE THINGS 09:23.213 --> 09:26.013 align:start THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED OR 09:26.016 --> 09:29.216 align:start ADJUSTED BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DID 09:29.219 --> 09:30.050 align:start TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, OUR OLD 09:30.053 --> 09:32.453 align:start BOSS UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY 09:32.456 --> 09:33.821 align:start THIS FALL BUT WAS PART OF THAT 09:33.824 --> 09:35.189 align:start AND I THOUGHT HIS OBSERVATION 09:35.192 --> 09:37.625 align:start WAS ONE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE 09:37.628 --> 09:39.059 align:start HAVE AND THAT IS THEY HAVE KNOWN 09:39.062 --> 09:39.827 align:start HIM TO BE AN AMBITIOUS PERSON 09:39.830 --> 09:41.829 align:start FOR A LONG TIME. 09:41.832 --> 09:43.063 align:start IT'S THE KIND OF THING THE LEFT 09:43.066 --> 09:44.398 align:start WILL LOVE AND THE KIND OF THING 09:44.401 --> 09:47.034 align:start THE RIGHT WILL HATE HIM WHEN WE 09:47.037 --> 09:48.936 align:start GET TO THE END OF THE CYCLE IT 09:48.939 --> 09:50.337 align:start WILL NOT MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE 09:50.340 --> 09:51.105 align:start EXCEPT FOR THE HEADLINE THAT AND 09:51.108 --> 09:57.378 align:start TALKED ABOUT. 09:57.381 --> 10:01.248 align:start >> TO THAT POINT TALKING ABOUT 10:01.251 --> 10:02.950 align:start MIKE PENCE SOONER THAN DONALD 10:02.953 --> 10:04.818 align:start TRUMP WOULD LIKE IN THE OFFICE 10:04.821 --> 10:06.787 align:start DOES THAT GET UNDER HIS SKIN OR 10:06.790 --> 10:08.022 align:start DOES THAT SKATE BY? 10:08.025 --> 10:10.291 align:start >> MAYBE IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR 10:10.294 --> 10:12.993 align:start MIKE PENCE IN THE STORY TO HIT. 10:12.996 --> 10:15.596 align:start THE PRESIDENT HAS HIS PLACE 10:15.599 --> 10:15.929 align:start PRETTY FULL RIGHT NOW WITH OTHER 10:15.932 --> 10:18.065 align:start MATTERS. 10:18.068 --> 10:19.833 align:start HE READS THESE THINGS CLOSELY 10:19.836 --> 10:22.236 align:start WATCHES TV CLOSELY AND IS THE 10:22.239 --> 10:23.237 align:start GREATEST CONSUMER OF NEWS -- 10:23.240 --> 10:24.305 align:start MOST PEOPLE LIKE THAT NEWSPAPERS 10:24.308 --> 10:25.406 align:start WOULD BE IN TROUBLE. 10:25.409 --> 10:28.409 align:start >> I DON'T THINK HE READS. 10:28.412 --> 10:29.977 align:start THAT'S OBVIOUS. 10:29.980 --> 10:32.813 align:start >> SO I DON'T THINK IT 10:32.816 --> 10:33.113 align:start NECESSARILY WOULD GET UNDER HIS 10:33.116 --> 10:34.782 align:start SKIN. 10:34.785 --> 10:35.849 align:start THE ISSUE HERE IS I GUESS I'M 10:35.852 --> 10:37.918 align:start GOING TO BE THE CONTRARY IN. 10:37.921 --> 10:40.220 align:start I THINK WHEN YOU DO HAVE SOME 10:40.223 --> 10:41.488 align:start PROFOUND FACTUAL ERRORS SUCH AS 10:41.491 --> 10:45.626 align:start WE SAW IN THIS, LET'S TAKE AN 10:45.629 --> 10:46.794 align:start EXAMPLE WITH THE COZINESS 10:46.797 --> 10:48.762 align:start BETWEEN MIKE PENCE WHEN HE WAS 10:48.765 --> 10:50.331 align:start GOVERNOR IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY 10:50.334 --> 10:54.401 align:start AND THE SUGGESTION HE USED 10:54.404 --> 10:55.803 align:start EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO HELP 10:55.806 --> 10:57.438 align:start [OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS] 10:57.441 --> 10:58.305 align:start I GRANTED MY MEMORY AIN'T WHAT 10:58.308 --> 10:59.773 align:start IT USED TO BE. 10:59.776 --> 11:00.808 align:start >> WE WILL GRANT THAT. 11:00.811 --> 11:01.075 align:start >> I DON'T REMEMBER IT THAT 11:01.078 --> 11:02.476 align:start WAY. 11:02.479 --> 11:05.479 align:start I DO THINK IT CALLS INTO 11:05.482 --> 11:06.580 align:start QUESTION WHAT DID WE ALL LEARN 11:06.583 --> 11:07.314 align:start WHEN WE WENT TO JOURNALISM 11:07.317 --> 11:10.384 align:start SCHOOL IF YOU GET ONE THING 11:10.387 --> 11:11.385 align:start WRONG THAT SORT OF UNRAVELS THE 11:11.388 --> 11:13.654 align:start PERCEPTION OF THE ACCURACY OF 11:13.657 --> 11:15.155 align:start THE WHOLE THING SO PROBABLY TOLD 11:15.158 --> 11:16.757 align:start US SOME THINGS WE KNEW BUT THOSE 11:16.760 --> 11:17.458 align:start SERVERS ARE PROBLEMATIC. 11:17.461 --> 11:18.492 align:start >>>NATIONAL REPUBLICANS ARE 11:18.495 --> 11:19.893 align:start FINDING NEW WAYS THIS WEEK TO 11:19.896 --> 11:20.627 align:start PUSH THE ATTACK ON DEMOCRATIC 11:20.630 --> 11:21.729 align:start INCUMBENT SENATOR JOE DONNELLY'S 11:21.732 --> 11:25.132 align:start TIES TO HIS FAMILY'S COMPANY 11:25.135 --> 11:26.433 align:start THAT OUTSOURCED JOBS TO MEXICO. 11:26.436 --> 11:27.634 align:start THE LATEST STRATEGY FROM THE 11:27.637 --> 11:28.902 align:start SENATE LEADERSHIP FUND - 11:28.905 --> 11:29.970 align:start MAJORITY LEADER MITCH 11:29.973 --> 11:31.772 align:start MCCONNELL'S DE FACTO POLITICAL 11:31.775 --> 11:33.674 align:start ARM - IS A WEBSITE, 11:33.677 --> 11:35.142 align:start MEXICOJOE.COM. 11:35.145 --> 11:36.744 align:start IT'S ANOTHER GO AT TYING 11:36.747 --> 11:37.911 align:start DONNELLY TO THE DERISIVE LABEL 11:37.914 --> 11:39.346 align:start THAT EMERGED AFTER REVELATIONS 11:39.349 --> 11:40.614 align:start THAT DONNELLY'S FAMILY COMPANY - 11:40.617 --> 11:42.750 align:start IN WHICH HE HELD STOCK UNTIL 11:42.753 --> 11:44.218 align:start EARLIER THIS YEAR - SENT JOBS TO 11:44.221 --> 11:46.086 align:start MEXICO...ALL WHILE DONNELLY MADE 11:46.089 --> 11:47.821 align:start ATTACKING OUTSOURCING A TENT 11:47.824 --> 11:49.456 align:start POLE OF HIS PUBLIC PROFILE. 11:49.459 --> 11:50.791 align:start THE SITE AGGREGATES NEGATIVE 11:50.794 --> 11:51.825 align:start NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT DONNELLY, 11:51.828 --> 11:52.593 align:start WHO'S CONSIDERED ONE OF NEXT 11:52.596 --> 11:55.095 align:start YEAR'S MOST VULNERABLE 11:55.098 --> 11:56.196 align:start INCUMBENTS. 11:56.199 --> 11:57.364 align:start JOHN KETZENBERGER, WHILE THIS IS 11:57.367 --> 11:59.566 align:start LIKELY THE MOST EFFECTIVE ISSUE 11:59.569 --> 12:02.403 align:start REPUBLICANS WILL USE TO ATTACK 12:02.406 --> 12:09.810 align:start DONNELLY, IS THIS THE BEST 12:09.813 --> 12:11.211 align:start MESSAGING? 12:11.214 --> 12:12.379 align:start >> WE WILL SEE WHAT ISSUES 12:12.382 --> 12:13.781 align:start ARISE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN 12:13.784 --> 12:15.616 align:start BEFORE I MAKE A JUDGMENT ON THE 12:15.619 --> 12:17.851 align:start MOST EFFECTIVE, BUT I WILL AGREE 12:17.854 --> 12:20.120 align:start WITH YOU ON THE TACTIC HERE. 12:20.123 --> 12:20.921 align:start YOU KNOW, THE FACTS ARE THAT HIS 12:20.924 --> 12:24.391 align:start FAMILY COMPANY, WHICH HE HAD 12:24.394 --> 12:28.495 align:start SHARES IN HAD DONE WHAT IS 12:28.498 --> 12:30.998 align:start CHARGED IN THE ACT. 12:31.001 --> 12:32.833 align:start BUT ONE THING WE ARE SO EARLY IN 12:32.836 --> 12:34.234 align:start THE PROCESS TO BE MOUNTING THIS 12:34.237 --> 12:36.570 align:start KIND OF HARSH ATTACK. 12:36.573 --> 12:37.571 align:start HOW LONG CAN YOU SUSTAIN THAT 12:37.574 --> 12:39.940 align:start AND CAN YOU SUSTAIN THE 12:39.943 --> 12:40.240 align:start POTENTIAL OUTRAGE FROM ALL OF 12:40.243 --> 12:43.610 align:start THAT. 12:43.613 --> 12:44.778 align:start AND SECOND, REMEMBER THE 12:44.781 --> 12:45.479 align:start MARIACHI BAND OUTSIDE THE 12:45.482 --> 12:45.813 align:start ANNOUNCEMENT AND ALL THOSE 12:45.816 --> 12:49.383 align:start THINGS. 12:49.386 --> 12:49.750 align:start IT BORDERS ON BEYOND SILLY 12:49.753 --> 12:52.219 align:start SOMETIMES. 12:52.222 --> 12:53.554 align:start SO THE WAY THEY ARE PRESSING THE 12:53.557 --> 12:55.189 align:start ISSUE I THINK TRIVIALIZES IT 12:55.192 --> 12:56.857 align:start SOME AND YOU LOSE THE IMPACT AND 12:56.860 --> 12:59.193 align:start THE FACTS OF THE ISSUE. 12:59.196 --> 13:00.994 align:start THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE 13:00.997 --> 13:02.429 align:start HOW THAT PLAYS GOING FORWARD. 13:02.432 --> 13:04.364 align:start >> MEXICO JOE LABEL IS 13:04.367 --> 13:06.233 align:start SOMETHING THEY ARE REALLY 13:06.236 --> 13:07.968 align:start PUSHING AND IT'S RIGHT OUT OF 13:07.971 --> 13:09.570 align:start THE TRUMP PLAYBOOK OBVIOUSLY. 13:09.573 --> 13:13.173 align:start CAN THAT BE EFFECTIVE IN 2018 13:13.176 --> 13:13.540 align:start THE WAY IT WAS FOR DONALD TRUMP 13:13.543 --> 13:14.741 align:start IN 2016? 13:14.744 --> 13:18.011 align:start >> TRUMP HAS SHOWN IN OTHER 13:18.014 --> 13:21.582 align:start CANDIDATES HAVE SHOWN THAT 13:21.585 --> 13:23.283 align:start PEOPLE HEAR IT AND BY THAT I 13:23.286 --> 13:25.919 align:start DON'T MEAN WITH A PAID MESSAGE 13:25.922 --> 13:27.988 align:start AND THE ABILITY TO GET THAT 13:27.991 --> 13:31.758 align:start MESSAGE DISSEMINATED PEOPLE DO 13:31.761 --> 13:32.359 align:start TEND TO THINK IT BECOMES 13:32.362 --> 13:34.161 align:start REALITY. 13:34.164 --> 13:35.229 align:start JOHN TALKED ABOUT HOW EARLY WE 13:35.232 --> 13:36.997 align:start ARE IN THIS PROCESS. 13:37.000 --> 13:40.200 align:start THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE 13:40.203 --> 13:42.603 align:start DAMAGING FOR JOE DONNELLY IF 13:42.606 --> 13:44.771 align:start THIS HAD COME MUCH LATER IN THE 13:44.774 --> 13:47.574 align:start CAMPAIGN BECAUSE TWO REASONS. 13:47.577 --> 13:51.578 align:start ONE IF THIS IS THE DRUMBEAT THAT 13:51.581 --> 13:52.579 align:start WILL SOUNDED NOW UNTIL NOVEMBER 13:52.582 --> 13:56.583 align:start OF 2018, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET 13:56.586 --> 13:57.384 align:start TIRED OF IT. 13:57.387 --> 13:58.785 align:start ATTENTION SPANS OUR ATTENTION 13:58.788 --> 14:01.154 align:start SPANS AND THEY WILL LOOK FOR 14:01.157 --> 14:04.825 align:start OTHER TOPICS. 14:04.828 --> 14:08.395 align:start AND THEN THIS DOES, GIVES JOE 14:08.398 --> 14:09.763 align:start DONNELLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I 14:09.766 --> 14:12.933 align:start WAS NOT AWARE -- SO THERE IS 14:12.936 --> 14:14.601 align:start SOME REMEDIATION. 14:14.604 --> 14:16.537 align:start THEN AGAIN SINCE WE ARE IN THE 14:16.540 --> 14:18.372 align:start FINAL WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN THEN 14:18.375 --> 14:18.972 align:start I THINK IT REALLY WOULD HAVE 14:18.975 --> 14:20.607 align:start SOME TRACTION. 14:20.610 --> 14:22.676 align:start >> IS THIS A LITTLE EARLY FOR 14:22.679 --> 14:24.444 align:start TO STILL BE EFFECTIVE IN CRUNCH 14:24.447 --> 14:26.179 align:start TIME A YEAR FROM NOW? 14:26.182 --> 14:27.748 align:start >> IT'S NEVER TOO EARLY TO 14:27.751 --> 14:29.383 align:start REMIND HIM THAT HE'S A 14:29.386 --> 14:32.352 align:start HYPOCRITE. 14:32.355 --> 14:33.353 align:start THAT PRESUMES -- THAT ARGUMENT 14:33.356 --> 14:33.954 align:start FROM A CAMPAIGN STRATEGY 14:33.957 --> 14:36.390 align:start STANDPOINT MESSAGING AND 14:36.393 --> 14:38.792 align:start CAMPAIGN COMES IN LAYERS THEY 14:38.795 --> 14:39.359 align:start GAVE HIM A HARD TIME SAYING HE'S 14:39.362 --> 14:40.794 align:start A MARINE. 14:40.797 --> 14:41.828 align:start SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER LAST YEAR 14:41.831 --> 14:43.764 align:start PEOPLE WERE LEARNING FOR THE 14:43.767 --> 14:45.065 align:start FIRST TIME THAT TODD YOUNG WAS A 14:45.068 --> 14:45.899 align:start MARINE BECAUSE THEY STARTED 14:45.902 --> 14:49.169 align:start PAYING ATTENTION. 14:49.172 --> 14:50.203 align:start THEY ARE NOT PAYING TO EVERY -- 14:50.206 --> 14:52.406 align:start THAT'S PART OF THE MESSAGE AND 14:52.409 --> 14:55.375 align:start YOU DO THIS OVERTIME TO CREATE A 14:55.378 --> 14:56.376 align:start PROFILE AND ASSUMPTION ABOUT WHO 14:56.379 --> 14:57.344 align:start ARE THESE CANDIDATES AND THEY 14:57.347 --> 14:59.980 align:start ARE PEOPLE WE ARE RUNNING 14:59.983 --> 15:01.348 align:start AGAINST AND SO THE ONE POINT 15:01.351 --> 15:02.783 align:start MADE ABOUT THIS AND SENATORS 15:02.786 --> 15:04.217 align:start DONNELLY'S DEFENSES TO GET THE 15:04.220 --> 15:04.952 align:start MONEY TO CHARITY. 15:04.955 --> 15:06.420 align:start HE OUTSOURCE THE JOBS AND 15:06.423 --> 15:07.988 align:start PROFITED FROM IT AND WHEN HE GOT 15:07.991 --> 15:12.192 align:start CAUGHT I DON'T THINK YOU GET A 15:12.195 --> 15:13.961 align:start LOT OF POINTS FOR THAT. 15:13.964 --> 15:16.964 align:start >> IN MY BUSINESS DISCRETION 15:16.967 --> 15:17.731 align:start -- HE GAVE ALL THE MONEY TO 15:17.734 --> 15:19.433 align:start CHARITY. 15:19.436 --> 15:22.169 align:start WITH TRUMP'S DAUGHTER HAD ALL 15:22.172 --> 15:22.569 align:start HER MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS 15:22.572 --> 15:24.504 align:start ABROAD. 15:24.507 --> 15:26.573 align:start AND THAT'S OKAY FOR REPUBLICANS 15:26.576 --> 15:28.008 align:start TO DO, BUT NOT OKAY FOR 15:28.011 --> 15:30.143 align:start DONNELLY'S FAMILY TO DO? 15:30.146 --> 15:31.979 align:start HE'S ANSWERED THE QUESTION, 15:31.982 --> 15:34.948 align:start GIVEN THE MONEY AWAY TO A GOOD 15:34.951 --> 15:36.950 align:start CAUSE AND DOES MAKE CHARITABLE 15:36.953 --> 15:38.151 align:start CONTRIBUTIONS. 15:38.154 --> 15:39.586 align:start >> I THINK IT MEANS 15:39.589 --> 15:40.754 align:start REPUBLICANS BEHIND THIS AND 15:40.757 --> 15:43.557 align:start MITCH MCCONNELL AND OTHERS 15:43.560 --> 15:43.857 align:start BETTER BE 100 PERCENT SURE THEY 15:43.860 --> 15:44.091 align:start ARE. 15:44.094 --> 15:45.258 align:start -- 15:45.261 --> 15:47.761 align:start >>Speaker: THEY ARE NOT! 15:47.764 --> 15:48.562 align:start THEY ARE NOT! 15:48.565 --> 15:50.097 align:start >> PERCEIVED HYPOCRISY THAT 15:50.100 --> 15:53.734 align:start PEOPLE THAT POINT OUT -- AND 15:53.737 --> 15:54.968 align:start THEN ARE FOUND TO BE 15:54.971 --> 15:58.005 align:start HYPOCRITICAL. 15:58.008 --> 15:58.305 align:start >> I'M SURE I FOLLOWED ALL OF 15:58.308 --> 15:59.039 align:start THAT. 15:59.042 --> 15:59.773 align:start >>>CONGRESSMEN LUKE MESSER THIS 15:59.776 --> 16:00.407 align:start WEEK DEFENDED HIS VOTE AGAINST 16:00.410 --> 16:01.108 align:start DISASTER RELIEF FOR PUERTO 16:01.111 --> 16:03.110 align:start RICO...AND SEEMED TO GET SOME 16:03.113 --> 16:04.444 align:start DETAILS OF HIS DISTRICT WRONG. 16:04.447 --> 16:05.979 align:start MESSER WAS ONE OF FOUR INDIANA 16:05.982 --> 16:08.181 align:start REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED AGAINST 16:08.184 --> 16:09.516 align:start DISASTER RELIEF FOR PUERTO RICO. 16:09.519 --> 16:11.218 align:start JACKIE WALORSKI, JIM BANKS, AND 16:11.221 --> 16:12.653 align:start TODD ROKITA ALSO VOTED AGAINST 16:12.656 --> 16:13.553 align:start THE MEASURE, AS THEY EACH DID 16:13.556 --> 16:15.222 align:start FOR HURRICANE RELIEF FUNDING FOR 16:15.225 --> 16:16.590 align:start TEXAS AND FLORIDA. 16:16.593 --> 16:17.791 align:start THE LAWMAKERS ARGUE THAT RELIEF 16:17.794 --> 16:19.026 align:start BILLS SHOULDN'T BE A "BLANK 16:19.029 --> 16:20.327 align:start CHECK," THAT THE MEASURES SHOULD 16:20.330 --> 16:20.994 align:start INCLUDE COST REDUCTION 16:20.997 --> 16:22.396 align:start PROVISIONS TO OFFSET THE AID 16:22.399 --> 16:23.597 align:start COSTS. 16:23.600 --> 16:25.365 align:start IN AN INTERVIEW WITH LAFAYETTE 16:25.368 --> 16:26.266 align:start JOURNAL and COURIER COLUMNIST DAVE 16:26.269 --> 16:27.501 align:start BANGERT THIS WEEK, MESSER 16:27.504 --> 16:29.102 align:start DEFENDED HIS VOTE. 16:29.105 --> 16:30.303 align:start BANGERT BROUGHT UP A PREVIOUS 16:30.306 --> 16:31.471 align:start MEASURE, DISASTER RELIEF THAT 16:31.474 --> 16:32.272 align:start WENT TO HENRYVILLE, INDIANA 16:32.275 --> 16:34.174 align:start AFTER ITS DEVASTATING 2012 16:34.177 --> 16:35.509 align:start TORNADO. 16:35.512 --> 16:36.743 align:start WHILE MESSER REJECTED THE 16:36.746 --> 16:38.011 align:start COMPARISON, HE ALSO SAID 16:38.014 --> 16:38.712 align:start HENRYVILLE IS IN HIS 16:38.715 --> 16:41.848 align:start CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT...WHEN 16:41.851 --> 16:42.716 align:start IT'S NOT. 16:42.719 --> 16:44.017 align:start JON SCHWANTES, I'LL START WITH 16:44.020 --> 16:47.120 align:start THE DISASTER RELIEF VOTES. 16:47.123 --> 16:48.155 align:start WILL HOOSIER VOTERS CARE WHETHER 16:48.158 --> 16:54.127 align:start MESSER AND ROKITA VOTED FOR 16:54.130 --> 16:56.296 align:start THOSE AID PACKAGES? 16:56.299 --> 17:02.169 align:start >> I DOUBT IT. 17:02.172 --> 17:04.104 align:start AGAIN THIS IS NOT -- WE ARE NOT 17:04.107 --> 17:05.672 align:start FREEZING TIME AND LOOK AT THE 17:05.675 --> 17:07.708 align:start SAME CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE NEXT 17:07.711 --> 17:10.944 align:start YEAR. 17:10.947 --> 17:12.145 align:start OTHER ISSUES WILL INTERCEDE, I 17:12.148 --> 17:15.549 align:start THINK. 17:15.552 --> 17:15.949 align:start AND SO NO ISSUE -- COULD THIS BE 17:15.952 --> 17:17.050 align:start SUSTAINED? 17:17.053 --> 17:18.952 align:start YES, IF THE OPPONENTS ALLUDING 17:18.955 --> 17:21.188 align:start TO WHAT I MENTIONED IN AN 17:21.191 --> 17:22.255 align:start EARLIER RESPONSE, IF YOU HAVE 17:22.258 --> 17:25.959 align:start THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL AND 17:25.962 --> 17:28.128 align:start THE DESIRE TO MAKE SOMETHING THE 17:28.131 --> 17:29.196 align:start MARQUEE ISSUE IN YOUR CAMPAIGN 17:29.199 --> 17:30.330 align:start AND ATTACK YOUR OPPONENT AGAIN 17:30.333 --> 17:32.132 align:start AND, AGAIN, AND THROW A LOT OF 17:32.135 --> 17:34.935 align:start MONEY INTO IT, YOU CAN RESONATE, 17:34.938 --> 17:35.268 align:start BUT IS THAT THE ISSUE WITH 17:35.271 --> 17:36.770 align:start VOTERS? 17:36.773 --> 17:39.106 align:start I'M GUESSING NOT. 17:39.109 --> 17:39.740 align:start SO I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE 17:39.743 --> 17:42.843 align:start FOR GOTTEN BEFORE ANOTHER 17:42.846 --> 17:48.014 align:start HURRICANE COMES IN. 17:48.017 --> 17:50.117 align:start >> THERE IS NO PATTERN THESE T 17:50.120 --> 17:51.785 align:start AID PACKAGES SO FAR AND WILL 17:51.788 --> 17:54.354 align:start CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE IF 17:54.357 --> 17:55.322 align:start THEY REMAIN THE SAME A YEAR FROM 17:55.325 --> 17:55.989 align:start NOW OR WHETHER BECAUSE THEIR 17:55.992 --> 17:58.925 align:start PHILOSOPHICAL BELIEVE IS YOU 17:58.928 --> 18:00.327 align:start CAN'T HAVE AN AID PACKAGE 18:00.330 --> 18:01.228 align:start WITHOUT COST REDUCTION SOMEWHERE 18:01.231 --> 18:06.733 align:start ELSE SO, AGAIN, I WILL ASK WILL 18:06.736 --> 18:07.534 align:start VOTERS QUITE FRANKLY, CARE 18:07.537 --> 18:08.769 align:start WHETHER THEIR ELECTED 18:08.772 --> 18:10.137 align:start REPRESENTATIVES VOTED FOR THIS 18:10.140 --> 18:11.938 align:start SOMEWHERE ELSE? 18:11.941 --> 18:13.140 align:start >> WHERE THEY ARE CONSISTENTLY 18:13.143 --> 18:15.342 align:start AGAINST THE AID PACKAGES THEY 18:15.345 --> 18:16.943 align:start ARE BETTER OFF THAN IF THEY VOTE 18:16.946 --> 18:18.378 align:start FOR THEM IN SOME CASES AND NOT 18:18.381 --> 18:19.746 align:start OTHERS AND THAT'S WHERE THEY RUN 18:19.749 --> 18:21.348 align:start INTO TROUBLE. 18:21.351 --> 18:23.316 align:start WE'VE SEEN THAT SITUATION IN 18:23.319 --> 18:25.318 align:start TEXAS WHERE THERE WERE PEOPLE 18:25.321 --> 18:27.354 align:start WHO VOTED AGAINST THE RELIEF OR 18:27.357 --> 18:29.156 align:start HURRICANE SANDY, BUT WERE FOR A 18:29.159 --> 18:31.191 align:start REALLY FOR HURRICANE HARVEY. 18:31.194 --> 18:31.958 align:start THAT IS THE KIND OF 18:31.961 --> 18:34.127 align:start INCONSISTENCY OR HYPOCRISY THAT 18:34.130 --> 18:35.362 align:start WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE. 18:35.365 --> 18:36.596 align:start YOU HAVE TO ANSWER IF YOU ARE 18:36.599 --> 18:39.566 align:start THESE REPRESENTATIVES WHY YOU 18:39.569 --> 18:40.734 align:start DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR THIS 18:40.737 --> 18:42.536 align:start RELIEF, BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE 18:42.539 --> 18:43.870 align:start AN ANSWER AND CAN GIVE IN AND 18:43.873 --> 18:47.040 align:start THE VOTERS CAN MAKE A CHOICE. 18:47.043 --> 18:47.374 align:start >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT LUKE 18:47.377 --> 18:50.710 align:start MESSER. 18:50.713 --> 18:52.345 align:start TODD RICKY DOES CAMPAIGN ALREADY 18:52.348 --> 18:54.114 align:start POUNCING ON THIS AS ANOTHER 18:54.117 --> 18:55.148 align:start VERSION OF EVAN BAYH'S PROBLEM 18:55.151 --> 18:57.317 align:start WITH NOT KNOWING HIS ADDRESS 18:57.320 --> 18:59.519 align:start LAST YEAR. 18:59.522 --> 18:59.853 align:start DOES THE HAVE THAT KIND OF 18:59.856 --> 19:01.154 align:start AFFECT? 19:01.157 --> 19:02.722 align:start >> POTENTIALLY. 19:02.725 --> 19:03.957 align:start IT BASICALLY SAYS THERE ARE MY 19:03.960 --> 19:04.724 align:start PEOPLE AND THEN THERE'S 19:04.727 --> 19:06.560 align:start EVERYBODY ELSE. 19:06.563 --> 19:08.128 align:start WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS 19:08.131 --> 19:10.330 align:start OUT OF PUERTO RICO FOR EXAMPLE, 19:10.333 --> 19:11.498 align:start AND LOOK AT PEOPLE WITHOUT 19:11.501 --> 19:15.535 align:start DRINKING WATER OR ELECTRICITY 19:15.538 --> 19:16.369 align:start AND GOING ON 45 DAYS NOW AND THE 19:16.372 --> 19:18.939 align:start RESPONSE OF THE ADMINISTRATION 19:18.942 --> 19:20.941 align:start HAS BEEN TERRIBLE TO THE PLIGHT 19:20.944 --> 19:21.241 align:start OF AMERICAN CITIZENS IN PUERTO 19:21.244 --> 19:22.542 align:start RICO. 19:22.545 --> 19:23.677 align:start I THINK WHERE IT REALLY COMES IN 19:23.680 --> 19:25.812 align:start AND WHERE THIS COULD HAVE 19:25.815 --> 19:28.715 align:start STAYING POWER IS GOD FOR BID WE 19:28.718 --> 19:29.749 align:start HAVE ANOTHER TORNADO IN INDIANA 19:29.752 --> 19:31.918 align:start AND SOMETHING HAPPENS IN CENTRAL 19:31.921 --> 19:33.153 align:start INDIANA, WHAT DO THEY DO THEN? 19:33.156 --> 19:34.721 align:start ARE THEY HOLIER THAN THOU AND 19:34.724 --> 19:36.056 align:start SAY I'M NOT VOTING. 19:36.059 --> 19:40.126 align:start OR DOES HE SUCCUMB TO THE 19:40.129 --> 19:41.661 align:start OBVIOUS PRESSURE OF HAVE THE 19:41.664 --> 19:44.331 align:start ROOF BLOWN OFF AND DO SOMETHING? 19:44.334 --> 19:46.032 align:start >> HE WILL HAVE MORE TROUBLE 19:46.035 --> 19:47.567 align:start IF HE'S INCONSISTENT ABOUT THAT. 19:47.570 --> 19:48.134 align:start >> I BET HE WILL BE 19:48.137 --> 19:49.536 align:start INCONSISTENT. 19:49.539 --> 19:51.538 align:start >> YOU ARE RIGHT. 19:51.541 --> 19:52.005 align:start >> HE'S PUTTING HIMSELF 19:52.008 --> 19:53.306 align:start FORWARD FIRST. 19:53.309 --> 19:56.543 align:start >> ON THE ISSUE OF LUKE MESSER 19:56.546 --> 19:57.277 align:start GETTING HIS DISTRICT WRONG, 19:57.280 --> 19:59.312 align:start WHERE HENRY BILL IS NOT IN HIS 19:59.315 --> 20:02.749 align:start DISTRICT AND IT'S NOT ALL THAT 20:02.752 --> 20:04.551 align:start CLOSE TO HIS DISTRICT, THE TODD 20:04.554 --> 20:06.553 align:start ROKITA CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN PUSHING 20:06.556 --> 20:09.322 align:start THE NARRATIVE THAT HE LIVES IN 20:09.325 --> 20:10.323 align:start VIRGINIA, HE'S NOT REALLY IN 20:10.326 --> 20:12.926 align:start INDIANA, NOT CONNECTED TO 20:12.929 --> 20:13.293 align:start INDIANA OR NOT A HOOSIER 20:13.296 --> 20:14.961 align:start ANYMORE. 20:14.964 --> 20:15.228 align:start >> IS THAT WHAT WE ARE TIMED 20:15.231 --> 20:18.365 align:start OUT? 20:18.368 --> 20:21.801 align:start >> LUKE MESSER. 20:21.804 --> 20:23.336 align:start [OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS] 20:23.339 --> 20:27.908 align:start >> IT HAD AN EFFECT ON EVAN 20:27.911 --> 20:29.309 align:start BAYH LAST YEAR AND THIS PLACE 20:29.312 --> 20:31.378 align:start INTO TODD ROKITA'S HANDS AND HOW 20:31.381 --> 20:32.712 align:start WHERE HE DOES LUKE MESSER HAVE 20:32.715 --> 20:34.214 align:start TO BE ABOUT THIS? 20:34.217 --> 20:36.750 align:start >> VERY WORRIED. 20:36.753 --> 20:37.918 align:start EVAN BAYH WAS SO DETACHED FROM 20:37.921 --> 20:39.653 align:start INDIANA POLITICS AND PHONING IT 20:39.656 --> 20:42.322 align:start IN FOR SO LONG THAT THERE WERE A 20:42.325 --> 20:43.523 align:start LOT OF LAYERS TO THAT MESSAGE 20:43.526 --> 20:45.525 align:start THAT KIND OF CAUGHT FIRE WITH 20:45.528 --> 20:47.027 align:start THE FACT HE HAD A CONDO HE DID 20:47.030 --> 20:50.330 align:start NOT LIVE IN AND HAD NOT BEEN IN 20:50.333 --> 20:52.098 align:start IN A DECADE. 20:52.101 --> 20:53.400 align:start INSTEAD HE WAS LIVING IN A 20:53.403 --> 20:54.367 align:start MANSION IN DELAWARE OR VIRGINIA 20:54.370 --> 20:56.703 align:start OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. 20:56.706 --> 20:58.705 align:start THERE WAS A LOT MORE TO THAT. 20:58.708 --> 21:03.043 align:start THAT WAS A DEEPER MESSAGE THEN 21:03.046 --> 21:03.610 align:start LUKE MESSER SAYING IT'S BIG 21:03.613 --> 21:04.611 align:start STATE. 21:04.614 --> 21:05.011 align:start >> A LOT MORE [OVERLAPPING 21:05.014 --> 21:05.812 align:start SPEAKERS] 21:05.815 --> 21:10.150 align:start >> PHILOSOPHICALLY AS LONG AS 21:10.153 --> 21:11.651 align:start THESE THINGS ARE PAID FOR, I'M 21:11.654 --> 21:15.655 align:start ALSO JUST HOPING FOR MILD 21:15.658 --> 21:17.290 align:start TORNADO SEASON. 21:17.293 --> 21:18.491 align:start >> TRUMPS VICTORY WAS THE 21:18.494 --> 21:19.726 align:start BIGGEST FACTOR IN THAT, WHICH 21:19.729 --> 21:20.427 align:start WILL NOT BE PRESENT IN THE 21:20.430 --> 21:21.127 align:start PRIMARY NEXT SEASON. 21:21.130 --> 21:21.861 align:start >>>AN INDIANA STUDY COMMITTEE 21:21.864 --> 21:22.629 align:start PANEL THIS WEEK RECOMMENDED THE 21:22.632 --> 21:23.430 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY EXPLORE WAYS TO 21:23.433 --> 21:26.266 align:start MAKE VOTING AND VOTER 21:26.269 --> 21:27.867 align:start REGISTRATION MORE ACCESSIBLE. 21:27.870 --> 21:29.336 align:start ELECTIONS STUDY COMMITTEE CHAIR 21:29.339 --> 21:30.704 align:start GREG WALKER SAYS HE WILL DRAFT A 21:30.707 --> 21:31.805 align:start BILL NEXT SESSION TO ALLOW A 21:31.808 --> 21:33.340 align:start PERSON TO REGISTER AND VOTE ON 21:33.343 --> 21:34.607 align:start ELECTION DAY. 21:34.610 --> 21:35.308 align:start INDIANA'S CURRENT SYSTEM CUTS 21:35.311 --> 21:36.743 align:start OFF REGISTRATION ABOUT A MONTH 21:36.746 --> 21:38.244 align:start BEFORE. 21:38.247 --> 21:39.646 align:start WALKER SAYS HE'LL ALSO PUSH FOR 21:39.649 --> 21:41.047 align:start GREATER USE OF VOTE BY 21:41.050 --> 21:41.715 align:start MAIL...AND HE'LL START WITH A 21:41.718 --> 21:43.083 align:start SMALL CHANGE TO THE STATE'S 21:43.086 --> 21:45.151 align:start CURRENT SYSTEM. 21:45.154 --> 21:46.219 align:start INDIANA USES VOTE BY MAIL FOR 21:46.222 --> 21:47.587 align:start ABSENTEE BALLOTS, AND WALKER 21:47.590 --> 21:49.022 align:start SAYS HE WANTS TO MAKE THAT 21:49.025 --> 21:50.390 align:start EASIER BY ELIMINATING THE 21:50.393 --> 21:52.759 align:start REQUIREMENT THAT PEOPLE PROVIDE 21:52.762 --> 21:54.227 align:start AN EXCUSE TO VOTE ABSENTEE. 21:54.230 --> 21:55.428 align:start WHILE OTHER KEY REPUBLICANS 21:55.431 --> 21:57.464 align:start EXPRESSED THEIR OPENNESS TO BOTH 21:57.467 --> 21:58.898 align:start IDEAS, THERE ARE ALSO STILL SOME 21:58.901 --> 22:00.400 align:start OBJECTIONS - INCLUDING TECHNICAL 22:00.403 --> 22:01.835 align:start ISSUES WITH SAME-DAY 22:01.838 --> 22:02.802 align:start REGISTRATION AND WORRIES ABOUT 22:02.805 --> 22:04.971 align:start THE SECURITY OF A VOTE BY MAIL 22:04.974 --> 22:05.972 align:start SYSTEM. 22:05.975 --> 22:07.040 align:start MIKE O'BRIEN, THE GENERAL 22:07.043 --> 22:08.274 align:start ASSEMBLY HASN'T BEEN VERY 22:08.277 --> 22:14.614 align:start WILLING TO MAKE BIG CHANGES TO 22:14.617 --> 22:15.882 align:start ELECTIONS IN A WHILE - IS 22:15.885 --> 22:18.385 align:start COMMITTEE CHAIR GREG WALKER'S 22:18.388 --> 22:24.157 align:start WILLINGNESS TO ACT A SIGN OF 22:24.160 --> 22:26.493 align:start OPTIMISM...OR FALSE HOPE? 22:26.496 --> 22:28.361 align:start >> I THINK IT'S OPTIMISM. 22:28.364 --> 22:30.530 align:start THERE ARE SOME NEW WAY IS THAT 22:30.533 --> 22:32.832 align:start SAME DAY VOTER REGISTRATION, FOR 22:32.835 --> 22:34.300 align:start EXAMPLE, THAT WILL GET TRACTION 22:34.303 --> 22:35.969 align:start BECAUSE THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO 22:35.972 --> 22:37.871 align:start MAKE SURE THE VOTING SYSTEM IS 22:37.874 --> 22:39.506 align:start SECURE AND ELECTION DAY IS 22:39.509 --> 22:43.076 align:start SECURE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN 22:43.079 --> 22:44.911 align:start VERIFY AND REGISTER ON THE SAME 22:44.914 --> 22:45.178 align:start DAY FOLKS ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY 22:45.181 --> 22:47.914 align:start ARE. 22:47.917 --> 22:49.015 align:start I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE CHANGES. 22:49.018 --> 22:50.550 align:start WE'VE BEEN TRANSITIONING TO VOTE 22:50.553 --> 22:51.751 align:start CENTERS FOR A LONG TIME AND MORE 22:51.754 --> 22:53.520 align:start MORE COUNTIES ARE TAKING THOSE 22:53.523 --> 22:54.487 align:start UP AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO 22:54.490 --> 22:55.455 align:start SO. 22:55.458 --> 23:00.093 align:start IT'S A BETTER WAY TO VOTE AND 23:00.096 --> 23:01.294 align:start MORE CONVENIENT AND GETTING AWAY 23:01.297 --> 23:04.364 align:start FROM THE PRECINCT -BASED VOTING 23:04.367 --> 23:05.532 align:start SYSTEM WE HAD 450 YEARS. 23:05.535 --> 23:07.233 align:start BUT, YES, I THINK THERE WILL BE 23:07.236 --> 23:09.736 align:start SOME CHANGES IF NOT THIS YEAR IT 23:09.739 --> 23:11.504 align:start WILL BE A WEIRD SESSION AND THIS 23:11.507 --> 23:13.873 align:start STUFF IS NOT OFF THE GROUND IN 23:13.876 --> 23:14.574 align:start 10 DAYS OR TWO WEEKS AND THE 23:14.577 --> 23:17.510 align:start BEGINNING OF JANUARY IT WILL 23:17.513 --> 23:19.746 align:start PROBABLY NOT MAKE IT TO THE END. 23:19.749 --> 23:21.881 align:start >> IS THERE A LEGITIMATE SHOT 23:21.884 --> 23:22.315 align:start FOR AT LEAST INITIALLY SAME-DAY 23:22.318 --> 23:23.149 align:start REGISTRATION? 23:23.152 --> 23:26.686 align:start >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 23:26.689 --> 23:28.555 align:start I THINK BOTH OF THESE -- VOTING 23:28.558 --> 23:28.922 align:start CENTERS EVEN IN MARION COUNTY 23:28.925 --> 23:30.356 align:start OUR NEW. 23:30.359 --> 23:30.957 align:start ANYWAY THESE ARE ALL 23:30.960 --> 23:34.094 align:start [OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS] 23:34.097 --> 23:34.461 align:start AND PART OF THAT [OVERLAPPING 23:34.464 --> 23:35.295 align:start SPEAKERS] 23:35.298 --> 23:38.498 align:start IT'S THE RECOGNITION OF THE FACT 23:38.501 --> 23:40.133 align:start WE ARE THE 49TH OR 50TH IN 23:40.136 --> 23:41.668 align:start TURNOUT IN EVERY ELECTION AND 23:41.671 --> 23:42.669 align:start THAT'S DISGRACEFUL. 23:42.672 --> 23:43.870 align:start THE REASON IT'S DISGRACEFUL IS 23:43.873 --> 23:45.505 align:start BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE 23:45.508 --> 23:47.207 align:start IMPEDIMENTS ARE PUT IN THE WAY 23:47.210 --> 23:49.809 align:start OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO VOTE SO 23:49.812 --> 23:51.478 align:start WE CAN REMOVE SOME OF THEM AND 23:51.481 --> 23:52.579 align:start ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IT'S A GOOD 23:52.582 --> 23:54.414 align:start PUBLIC POLICY. 23:54.417 --> 23:56.483 align:start >> THERE'S ALSO SUCH A BAD 23:56.486 --> 23:58.885 align:start DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES THE 23:58.888 --> 23:59.219 align:start ELECTIONS ARE HARDLY COMPETITIVE 23:59.222 --> 23:59.486 align:start ANYMORE. 23:59.489 --> 24:01.321 align:start IT. 24:01.324 --> 24:01.621 align:start >> GERRYMANDERING HAS DONE 24:01.624 --> 24:02.455 align:start THAT. 24:02.458 --> 24:04.491 align:start >> SAME-DAY REGISTRATION THERE 24:04.494 --> 24:05.525 align:start SEEMS TO BE MORE FOCUSED PEOPLE 24:05.528 --> 24:06.759 align:start ON THAT. 24:06.762 --> 24:09.095 align:start BUT THE VOTE BY MAIL SYSTEM 24:09.098 --> 24:10.663 align:start WOULD BE A MUCH BIGGER CHANGE TO 24:10.666 --> 24:10.964 align:start WHAT INDIANA HAS HISTORICALLY 24:10.967 --> 24:11.831 align:start DONE. 24:11.834 --> 24:14.868 align:start DO YOU THINK THERE'S A REALISTIC 24:14.871 --> 24:15.869 align:start CHANCE FOR THAT AT SOME POINT? 24:15.872 --> 24:17.270 align:start >> I DO. 24:17.273 --> 24:19.739 align:start ONE OF THE DRIVERS FOR THAT 24:19.742 --> 24:21.141 align:start MIGHT BE SOME OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN 24:21.144 --> 24:22.308 align:start IN THE NATIONAL ELECTION, WHICH 24:22.311 --> 24:24.711 align:start ARE THE SECURITY PROBLEMS ON 24:24.714 --> 24:25.078 align:start QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE 24:25.081 --> 24:26.479 align:start INTERNET. 24:26.482 --> 24:28.014 align:start I HOPE THAT DOES NOT STOP 24:28.017 --> 24:30.216 align:start PROGRESS WITH WHAT WE HAVE SEEN 24:30.219 --> 24:32.318 align:start COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE BUT 24:32.321 --> 24:36.523 align:start PEOPLE TRUST THE MAIL AND THEY 24:36.526 --> 24:38.658 align:start FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE HARDER. 24:38.661 --> 24:40.093 align:start SECURITY IS THE KEY HERE. 24:40.096 --> 24:42.228 align:start PEOPLE HAVE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE 24:42.231 --> 24:43.062 align:start WITH IT AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL. 24:43.065 --> 24:45.899 align:start >> QUICKLY JOHN SHOULD WANT 24:45.902 --> 24:49.068 align:start THIS DO THERE'S A CHANCE THIS 24:49.071 --> 24:50.904 align:start WILL BE ENACTED AT SOME POINT? 24:50.907 --> 24:53.907 align:start >> IF THIS IS ON RAILS AND 24:53.910 --> 24:55.175 align:start EVERYBODY IS BEHIND IT MAY BE, 24:55.178 --> 24:58.311 align:start BUT THE TRACKERS POINT OUT TO 24:58.314 --> 25:01.247 align:start THE RESEARCHERS WE TALK ABOUT 25:01.250 --> 25:03.082 align:start THERE WAS A STUDY THAT SHOWED 25:03.085 --> 25:03.750 align:start NOR NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THESE 25:03.753 --> 25:04.684 align:start MEMBERS AND PARTICIPATION. 25:04.687 --> 25:06.553 align:start I'M STIR SOME PEOPLE WILL POINT 25:06.556 --> 25:07.253 align:start TO THAT. 25:07.256 --> 25:07.954 align:start >>>FINALLY, A CARMEL HOMEOWNER 25:07.957 --> 25:08.688 align:start PUT UP A SCARECROW OF DONALD 25:08.691 --> 25:09.222 align:start TRUMP IN THEIR FRONT YARD THIS 25:09.225 --> 25:10.023 align:start WEEK. 25:10.026 --> 25:10.723 align:start AND THEY SAY THE ATTENTION IT'S 25:10.726 --> 25:11.391 align:start DRAWN MIGHT PROMPT THEM TO 25:11.394 --> 25:11.724 align:start CREATE A SCARECROW OF MIKE 25:11.727 --> 25:12.492 align:start PENCE. 25:12.495 --> 25:13.259 align:start ANN DELANEY, THE TRUMP SCARECROW 25:13.262 --> 25:14.327 align:start IS CHARACTERIZED BY A SCREAMING 25:14.330 --> 25:15.061 align:start PUMPKIN HEAD AND TINY HANDS. 25:15.064 --> 25:18.898 align:start WHAT WOULD THE PENCE SCARECROW 25:18.901 --> 25:21.267 align:start INCLUDE? 25:21.270 --> 25:23.303 align:start >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WOULD 25:23.306 --> 25:25.438 align:start INCLUDE BUT THERE'S A FEMALE 25:25.441 --> 25:29.075 align:start SCARECROW AROUND HERE THERE 25:29.078 --> 25:30.877 align:start BETTER BE ONE OF MOTHER HENS. 25:30.880 --> 25:32.278 align:start >> I PUT AN END TO LAINEY 25:32.281 --> 25:34.914 align:start SCARECROW UP IN MY YARD. 25:34.917 --> 25:35.315 align:start >> I'D PAY MONEY TO SEE THAT. 25:35.318 --> 25:37.684 align:start [LAUGHING] 25:37.687 --> 25:38.051 align:start >> THAT'S A CHALLENGE. 25:38.054 --> 25:38.785 align:start [LAUGHING] 25:38.788 --> 25:39.285 align:start >>>THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 25:39.288 --> 25:39.953 align:start FOR THIS WEEK. 25:39.956 --> 25:41.154 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 25:41.157 --> 25:41.788 align:start DELANEY, REPUBLICAN MIKE 25:41.791 --> 25:42.655 align:start O'BRIEN, JON SCHWANTES OF 25:42.658 --> 25:44.023 align:start INDIANA LAWMAKERS AND JOHN 25:44.026 --> 25:45.325 align:start KETZENBERGER OF THE INDIANA 25:45.328 --> 25:46.125 align:start FISCAL POLICY INSTITUTE. 25:46.128 --> 25:47.193 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 25:47.196 --> 25:49.963 align:start PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 25:49.966 --> 25:51.764 align:start WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 25:51.767 --> 25:53.533 align:start YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 25:53.536 --> 25:54.667 align:start DEMAND FROM XFINITY. 25:54.670 --> 25:55.902 align:start I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 25:55.905 --> 25:56.836 align:start PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 25:56.839 --> 26:00.006 align:start JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT