WEBVTT 00:08.658 --> 00:10.458 align:start AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AGAINST 00:10.461 --> 00:11.859 align:start PRESIDENT TRUMP. 00:11.862 --> 00:12.393 align:start A LAWSUIT AGAINST INDIANA'S 00:12.396 --> 00:13.027 align:start MEDICAID WORK REQUIREMENT. 00:13.030 --> 00:14.228 align:start PLUS, CONNIE LAWSON ON ELECTION 00:14.231 --> 00:14.896 align:start SECURITY MONEY AND MORE ON 00:14.899 --> 00:16.597 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THE 00:16.600 --> 00:19.133 align:start WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 27TH, 00:19.136 --> 00:19.400 align:start 2019. 00:19.403 --> 00:23.604 align:start ♪♪ 00:23.607 --> 00:25.807 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 00:25.810 --> 00:27.508 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 00:27.511 --> 00:29.911 align:start MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 00:29.914 --> 00:31.846 align:start OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 00:31.849 --> 00:33.848 align:start STATIONS, AND BY ICEMILLER, 00:33.851 --> 00:35.550 align:start BUILT ON A 100-PLUS YEAR 00:35.553 --> 00:37.652 align:start FOUNDATION OF LEGAL SERVICE, 00:37.655 --> 00:38.886 align:start ICEMILLER IS A FULL SERVICE LAW 00:38.889 --> 00:40.421 align:start FIRM COMMITTED TO HELPING 00:40.424 --> 00:42.123 align:start CLIENTS STAY AHEAD OF A CHANGING 00:42.126 --> 00:43.624 align:start WORLD, WORKING TO DEVELOP AN 00:43.627 --> 00:45.560 align:start UNDERSTANDING OF EACH CLIENT'S 00:45.563 --> 00:50.331 align:start NEEDS TO HELP BUILD, GROW AND 00:50.334 --> 00:53.568 align:start PROTECT THEIR INTERESTS. MORE AT 00:53.571 --> 00:54.202 align:start ICEMILLER.COM. # 00:54.205 --> 00:54.869 align:start THIS WEEK, HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY 00:54.872 --> 00:56.904 align:start PELOSI ANNOUNCED THE LAUNCH OF 00:56.907 --> 00:57.705 align:start WHAT MANY IN HER PARTY HAVE LONG 00:57.708 --> 00:58.306 align:start ADVOCATED FOR: AN IMPEACHMENT 00:58.309 --> 01:01.342 align:start INQUIRY INTO PRESIDENT DONALD 01:01.345 --> 01:05.847 align:start TRUMP. 01:05.850 --> 01:07.248 align:start PELOSI'S HISTORIC MOVE COMES 01:07.251 --> 01:09.851 align:start AFTER CONTROVERSY OVER A PHONE 01:09.854 --> 01:12.253 align:start CALL TRUMP HAD WITH THE NEWLY 01:12.256 --> 01:13.221 align:start ELECTED UKRANIAN LEADER IN JULY 01:13.224 --> 01:14.722 align:start AND REPORTING THAT THE PRESIDENT 01:14.725 --> 01:16.324 align:start PRESSURED HIM TO INVESTIGATE 01:16.327 --> 01:17.158 align:start POLITICAL RIVAL JOE BIDEN. 01:17.161 --> 01:18.626 align:start SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): THE 01:18.629 --> 01:21.162 align:start PRESIDENT MUST BE HELD 01:21.165 --> 01:21.329 align:start ACCOUNTABLE. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE 01:21.332 --> 01:24.565 align:start LAW. 01:24.568 --> 01:25.199 align:start TRUMP HAS CALLED THE ALLEGATIONS 01:25.202 --> 01:25.933 align:start AGAINST HIM "RIDICULOUS" AND A 01:25.936 --> 01:27.201 align:start "WITCH HUNT." IN A RECAP OF THAT 01:27.204 --> 01:28.536 align:start PHONE CALL RELEASED BY THE WHITE 01:28.539 --> 01:31.272 align:start HOUSE, TRUMP NOTES AT THE OUTSET 01:31.275 --> 01:33.374 align:start THAT "WE DO A LOT FOR UKRAINE." 01:33.377 --> 01:36.511 align:start HE ASKS UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT 01:36.514 --> 01:37.111 align:start ZELENSKIY ABOUT A "FAVOR," LATER 01:37.114 --> 01:37.779 align:start GOING ON TO TELL HIM "I WOULD 01:37.782 --> 01:40.414 align:start LIKE YOU TO FIND OUT WHAT 01:40.417 --> 01:41.015 align:start HAPPENED WITH THIS WHOLE 01:41.018 --> 01:41.516 align:start SITUATION IN UKRAINE" AND THE 01:41.519 --> 01:44.886 align:start BIDENS. 01:44.889 --> 01:45.520 align:start INDIANA'S CONGRESSIONAL 01:45.523 --> 01:46.053 align:start DELEGATION IS SPLIT ALONG PARTY 01:46.056 --> 01:48.723 align:start LINES ON THE IMPEACHMENT 01:48.726 --> 01:49.624 align:start INQUIRY. 01:49.627 --> 01:52.426 align:start WHAT NOW? 01:52.429 --> 01:53.861 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 01:53.864 --> 01:56.030 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL. 01:56.033 --> 01:56.531 align:start DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY. 01:56.534 --> 01:57.999 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 01:58.002 --> 02:00.535 align:start JON SCHWANTES, HOST OF INDIANA 02:00.538 --> 02:01.102 align:start LAWMAKERS. 02:01.105 --> 02:01.702 align:start AND NIKI KELLY, STATEHOUSE 02:01.705 --> 02:02.103 align:start REPORTER FOR THE FORT WAYNE 02:02.106 --> 02:03.271 align:start JOURNAL GAZETTE. 02:03.274 --> 02:04.038 align:start I'M INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 02:04.041 --> 02:05.807 align:start STATEHOUSE REPORTER, BRANDON 02:05.810 --> 02:07.008 align:start SMITH. 02:07.011 --> 02:08.309 align:start ANN DELANEY, DOES THE FORMAL 02:08.312 --> 02:12.446 align:start LAUNCH OF AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY 02:12.449 --> 02:14.415 align:start CHANGE MUCH? 02:14.418 --> 02:16.150 align:start >> OH, I THINK WE HAVE A 02:16.153 --> 02:17.652 align:start QUALITATIVE CHANGE HERE. I MEAN, 02:17.655 --> 02:19.554 align:start WE'RE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT THIS 02:19.557 --> 02:20.988 align:start ADMINISTRATION IS CORRUPT, AND 02:20.991 --> 02:22.490 align:start WE'VE KNOWN IT IS INCOMPETENT 02:22.493 --> 02:24.258 align:start AND WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT LIES 02:24.261 --> 02:26.394 align:start HABITUALLY. BUT THIS IS THE 02:26.397 --> 02:29.030 align:start FIRST TIME THAT YOU HAVE IT FROM 02:29.033 --> 02:30.531 align:start HIS LIPS TO A LEADER OF A 02:30.534 --> 02:34.202 align:start FOREIGN COUNTRY ASKING FOR A, 02:34.205 --> 02:35.903 align:start QUOTE, FAVOR, UNQUOTE, TO DIG 02:35.906 --> 02:38.606 align:start UP, OR MANUFACTURE DIRT AGAINST 02:38.609 --> 02:41.642 align:start THE SON OF A POTENTIAL OPPONENT. 02:41.645 --> 02:42.877 align:start THAT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND, THAT 02:42.880 --> 02:44.779 align:start VIOLATES SO MANY DIFFERENT LAWS, 02:44.782 --> 02:45.847 align:start IT'S DIFFICULT TO ENUMERATE THEM 02:45.850 --> 02:48.449 align:start ALL. AND IT'S VERY EASY FOR 02:48.452 --> 02:50.418 align:start VOTERS TO UNDERSTAND. SO, WE'VE 02:50.421 --> 02:51.419 align:start HAD A QUALITATIVELY DIFFERENT 02:51.422 --> 02:52.920 align:start APPROACH, AND THE WHITE HOUSE 02:52.923 --> 02:53.855 align:start RECOGNIZED THAT. BECAUSE THE 02:53.858 --> 02:56.757 align:start WHITE HOUSE WENT TO COVER IT UP 02:56.760 --> 02:58.125 align:start RIGHT AWAY. THE STAFF PEOPLE 02:58.128 --> 02:59.894 align:start UNDERSTOOD THAT WHAT THEY HAD IN 02:59.897 --> 03:01.796 align:start THEIR HANDS THERE WAS 03:01.799 --> 03:02.964 align:start RADIOACTIVE. AND WE DON'T KNOW 03:02.967 --> 03:04.198 align:start HOW MANY MORE OF THOSE RADIO 03:04.201 --> 03:06.901 align:start ACTIVE BOMBS HAVE BEEN COVERED 03:06.904 --> 03:11.038 align:start UP BY THE WHITE HOUSE BASED ON 03:11.041 --> 03:12.139 align:start THE CONTACTS THAT THE PRESIDENT 03:12.142 --> 03:13.608 align:start OR VICE PRESIDENT HAD WITH 03:13.611 --> 03:14.909 align:start FOREIGN LEADERS. I THINK THIS 03:14.912 --> 03:16.711 align:start MAKES IT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. 03:16.714 --> 03:19.213 align:start THIS IS THE KIND OF ACTIVITY 03:19.216 --> 03:20.348 align:start THAT YOU EXPECT FROM THUGS, OR 03:20.351 --> 03:21.382 align:start FROM ORGANIZED CRIME. YOU DON'T 03:21.385 --> 03:26.020 align:start EXPECT IT FROM THE PRESIDENT OF 03:26.023 --> 03:27.488 align:start THE UNITED STATES, AND IT CANNOT 03:27.491 --> 03:28.856 align:start GO WITHOUT BEING TRIED. 03:28.859 --> 03:31.592 align:start >> WHAT HASN'T CHANGED IS THE 03:31.595 --> 03:32.860 align:start POLITICAL MAKE-UP OF CONGRESS, 03:32.863 --> 03:34.929 align:start WHILE DEMOCRATS HAVE A MAJORITY 03:34.932 --> 03:39.133 align:start IN THE HOUSE, AND HAVE ENOUGH TO 03:39.136 --> 03:40.368 align:start SUPPORT AN INQUIRY AND PROBABLY 03:40.371 --> 03:41.402 align:start IMPEACHMENT. YOU DON'T HAVE 03:41.405 --> 03:42.336 align:start THOSE NUMBERS IN THE SENATE. 03:42.339 --> 03:44.772 align:start DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING? 03:44.775 --> 03:45.806 align:start >> I DON'T THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE 03:45.809 --> 03:46.474 align:start ANY CREDIBILITY ON THE 03:46.477 --> 03:49.377 align:start IMPEACHMENT ARGUMENT. CALLING 03:49.380 --> 03:50.411 align:start FOR ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES SINCE 03:50.414 --> 03:52.713 align:start PRACTICALLY INAUGURATION DAY. 03:52.716 --> 03:54.315 align:start THE FACT THEY MAY THINK THIS IS 03:54.318 --> 03:57.852 align:start THE MOST CREDITABLE DOESN'T 03:57.855 --> 03:59.587 align:start CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT IS 03:59.590 --> 04:00.988 align:start POLITICALLY IRRELEVANT. THE 04:00.991 --> 04:01.856 align:start IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS 04:01.859 --> 04:03.691 align:start THROUGHOUT HISTORY BEGAN WITH 04:03.694 --> 04:05.226 align:start HOUSE VOTING TO INSTRUCT THE 04:05.229 --> 04:06.894 align:start JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO BEGIN 04:06.897 --> 04:10.431 align:start THAT PROCEEDING, TO OUTLINE THE 04:10.434 --> 04:12.199 align:start TERMS, THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE 04:12.202 --> 04:13.834 align:start COMMITTEE MUST INVESTIGATE. 04:13.837 --> 04:15.803 align:start NANCY PELOSI DOESN'T WANT THAT 04:15.806 --> 04:17.204 align:start VOTE. UNLIKE PREVIOUS VOTES 04:17.207 --> 04:18.306 align:start WHICH FURTHER UNDERMINES THE 04:18.309 --> 04:20.942 align:start FACT THIS IS A POLITICAL EFFORT. 04:20.945 --> 04:22.476 align:start I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THIS IS 04:22.479 --> 04:23.945 align:start THE MOST DEMOCRATIC PARTY THING 04:23.948 --> 04:25.846 align:start EVER THAT THE ONE IMPEACHMENT 04:25.849 --> 04:28.449 align:start ISSUE THEY PICKED INDICTS THEIR 04:28.452 --> 04:29.483 align:start OWN FRONTRUNNER, WHO IS RUNNING 04:29.486 --> 04:30.818 align:start ON ELECTABILITY AND THE ABILITY 04:30.821 --> 04:33.354 align:start TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. BECAUSE 04:33.357 --> 04:35.056 align:start YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE CALL TO 04:35.059 --> 04:36.457 align:start THE UKRAINIAN LEADER WITHOUT 04:36.460 --> 04:37.892 align:start TALKING ABOUT JOE BIDEN AND THE 04:37.895 --> 04:39.393 align:start FACT THAT HIS SON IS UNDER 04:39.396 --> 04:40.628 align:start INVESTIGATION FOR WORKING FOR A 04:40.631 --> 04:41.095 align:start COMPANY THAT JOE BIDEN WAS 04:41.098 --> 04:42.763 align:start INVOLVED WITH. 04:42.766 --> 04:44.665 align:start >> NOBODY SAID HUNTER BIDEN DID 04:44.668 --> 04:47.835 align:start ANYTHING WRONG. ARE YOU 04:47.838 --> 04:48.002 align:start DEFENDING WHAT THE PRESIDENT 04:48.005 --> 04:49.270 align:start DID? 04:49.273 --> 04:51.639 align:start YOU DOESN'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT 04:51.642 --> 04:53.040 align:start QUESTION, DO YOU. 04:53.043 --> 04:54.709 align:start >> ON TO YOU, JON. 04:54.712 --> 05:00.448 align:start >> I DO WANT TO ASK THIS 05:00.451 --> 05:03.250 align:start QUESTION. REPUBLICAN 05:03.253 --> 05:03.484 align:start EE -- OFFICIALS ARE GOING TO BE 05:03.487 --> 05:03.918 align:start ASKED. 05:03.921 --> 05:05.486 align:start >> ABSOLUTELY. 05:05.489 --> 05:07.154 align:start >> IF DRASTIC HAD NOT TALKED 05:07.157 --> 05:08.689 align:start ABOUT IMPEACHMENT AND THEY 05:08.692 --> 05:11.125 align:start OPPOSED WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS 05:11.128 --> 05:12.360 align:start DONE FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT OR 05:12.363 --> 05:14.295 align:start CHARACTER, OR PERFORMANCE IN 05:14.298 --> 05:17.431 align:start OFFICE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE A 05:17.434 --> 05:19.567 align:start LOT MORE CREDIBILITY THAN 05:19.570 --> 05:21.802 align:start JUMPING FROM STORMY DANIELS TO 05:21.805 --> 05:22.036 align:start NAME YOUR ISSUE TO THE UKRAINIAN 05:22.039 --> 05:22.603 align:start LEADER. 05:22.606 --> 05:24.605 align:start >> THERE ARE SO MANY. 05:24.608 --> 05:25.973 align:start >> TO THIS END, I WANT TO ASK 05:25.976 --> 05:27.508 align:start ABOUT THE SORT OF POLITICAL 05:27.511 --> 05:29.610 align:start QUESTION, WHICH IS PRESUMING 05:29.613 --> 05:31.579 align:start THAT DONALD TRUMP IS STILL 05:31.582 --> 05:33.014 align:start RUNNING FOR REELECTION IN 2020. 05:33.017 --> 05:34.448 align:start RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO REASON TO 05:34.451 --> 05:39.053 align:start THINK THAT IS NOT TRUE. 05:39.056 --> 05:41.422 align:start >> START THAT RUMOR. 05:41.425 --> 05:42.623 align:start >> HOW DOES THIS IMPACT HIS 05:42.626 --> 05:44.325 align:start CHANCES OF RE-ELECTION? 05:44.328 --> 05:46.761 align:start DOES IT REALLY CHANGE IT? 05:46.764 --> 05:48.262 align:start >> I THINK IT IMPROVES IT. 05:48.265 --> 05:48.929 align:start ELIZABETH WARREN IS IN THE 05:48.932 --> 05:50.931 align:start DRIVER SEAT. 05:50.934 --> 05:52.566 align:start >> IT MIGHT BENEFIT HIM IN ONE 05:52.569 --> 05:54.101 align:start WAY. AND YOUR POINT WAS RIGHT ON 05:54.104 --> 05:56.037 align:start TARGET, BRANDON, THAT IS THAT 05:56.040 --> 05:58.572 align:start THE MAKEUP OF CONGRESS IS NOT 05:58.575 --> 06:00.241 align:start GOING TO CHANGE. SO, IN ALL 06:00.244 --> 06:02.376 align:start LIKELIHOOD, AFTER SOME SORT OF 06:02.379 --> 06:05.613 align:start INVESTIGATION, CHANCES ARE WE 06:05.616 --> 06:08.916 align:start WILL SEE AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE, 06:08.919 --> 06:09.850 align:start AND IT WILL PREVAIL IN THE 06:09.853 --> 06:11.085 align:start HOUSE. BARRING HUGE SURPRISE, HE 06:11.088 --> 06:13.854 align:start DID NOT BE CONVICTED IN THE 06:13.857 --> 06:17.058 align:start SENATE. SO BASICALLY, IT WILL BE 06:17.061 --> 06:19.493 align:start THE BILL CLINTON. I'M NOT TRYING 06:19.496 --> 06:19.760 align:start TO EQUATE THE TWO. 06:19.763 --> 06:21.395 align:start >> GOOD. 06:21.398 --> 06:23.831 align:start >> BILL CLINTON HAD A BIT OF A 06:23.834 --> 06:25.533 align:start BUMP WITH HIS CORE CONSTITUENCY, 06:25.536 --> 06:28.035 align:start WITH THE FACTION THAT SAID 06:28.038 --> 06:29.236 align:start THEY'RE TRYING TO MESS OVER OUR 06:29.239 --> 06:30.905 align:start GUY. I'M JUST SAYING THE 06:30.908 --> 06:33.140 align:start POLITICAL REALITY IS HERE, I'M 06:33.143 --> 06:35.076 align:start NOT SAYING WHAT IS RIGHT OR 06:35.079 --> 06:36.510 align:start WRONG. AND THEN, IF IN FACT THE 06:36.513 --> 06:39.213 align:start SENATE VOTE GOES THAT WAY, HE 06:39.216 --> 06:41.816 align:start CAN SAY, AS HE DID WITH THE 06:41.819 --> 06:44.752 align:start ROBERT MUELLER REPORT, I'VE BEEN 06:44.755 --> 06:45.853 align:start VINDICATED. AND, AGAIN, THERE'S 06:45.856 --> 06:47.822 align:start NO APPRECIATION FOR NUANCE IN 06:47.825 --> 06:50.024 align:start ANY OF THIS. WHEN YOU PAINT IN 06:50.027 --> 06:50.291 align:start BROAD STROKES, THAT'S THE 06:50.294 --> 06:51.459 align:start APPROACH. 06:51.462 --> 06:53.027 align:start >> LET ME ASK THE POLITICAL 06:53.030 --> 06:53.894 align:start QUESTION, DOES THIS ROLL 06:53.897 --> 06:55.162 align:start DOWNHILL BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT 06:55.165 --> 06:57.832 align:start NOVEMBER IN EITHER DIRECTION? 06:57.835 --> 07:00.234 align:start >> I THINK IT DEPENDS. WE NOW 07:00.237 --> 07:01.268 align:start FROM THE WHISTLEBLOWER 07:01.271 --> 07:02.803 align:start COMPLAINT, WHICH IDENTIFIES 07:02.806 --> 07:05.005 align:start OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN BE 07:05.008 --> 07:06.207 align:start WITNESSES, IT KIND OF DEPENDS IF 07:06.210 --> 07:09.877 align:start THERE'S MORE OF AN INVESTIGATION 07:09.880 --> 07:11.378 align:start TO WHAT WE SEE, ALSO BE 07:11.381 --> 07:13.180 align:start INTERESTING WHERE MIKE PENCE 07:13.183 --> 07:14.815 align:start FALLS INTO ALL THIS. HE IS 07:14.818 --> 07:16.450 align:start OBVIOUSLY STANDING BY HIS MAN, 07:16.453 --> 07:18.185 align:start SO TO SPEAK. HE DID ENCOURAGE 07:18.188 --> 07:20.321 align:start THE PRESIDENT NOT TO RELEASE 07:20.324 --> 07:22.223 align:start THAT CALL. SO, I MEAN, WE'LL 07:22.226 --> 07:22.490 align:start STILL SEE HOW HE FALLS OUT IN 07:22.493 --> 07:24.925 align:start ALL THIS. 07:24.928 --> 07:29.130 align:start >> WE'LL SEE, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT 07:29.133 --> 07:29.396 align:start THE SENATORS WHO DON'T VOTE TO 07:29.399 --> 07:30.498 align:start IMPEACH. 07:30.501 --> 07:31.298 align:start >> NO GUARANTEE THERE WILL BE A 07:31.301 --> 07:33.834 align:start VOTE IN THE SENATE. 07:33.837 --> 07:35.169 align:start >> THAT MAY BE. EVEN SO -- 07:35.172 --> 07:36.837 align:start >> OR THE HOUSE. 07:36.840 --> 07:37.071 align:start >> NO GUARANTEE IS VOTE IN THE 07:37.074 --> 07:38.339 align:start HOUSE. 07:38.342 --> 07:40.441 align:start >> BUT IF THE EVIDENCE... 07:40.444 --> 07:42.943 align:start >> BECAUSE SHE KNOWS AND 07:42.946 --> 07:44.478 align:start REMEMBERS IN SWING DISTRICTS 07:44.481 --> 07:45.846 align:start THAT TOOK THEM FROM GOP...THIS 07:45.849 --> 07:48.048 align:start IS NOT POPULAR. 07:48.051 --> 07:49.416 align:start >> IT WAS THE MEMBERS IN SWING 07:49.419 --> 07:50.684 align:start DISTRICTS WHO DID THE LETTER TO 07:50.687 --> 07:51.919 align:start THE EDITOR ASKING FOR THE 07:51.922 --> 07:53.454 align:start INQUIRY, THEY THINK THIS CONDUCT 07:53.457 --> 07:54.054 align:start IS SO EGREGIOUS. 07:54.057 --> 07:54.522 align:start TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 07:54.525 --> 07:55.923 align:start EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 07:55.926 --> 07:57.258 align:start UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL 07:57.261 --> 07:57.858 align:start QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR 07:57.861 --> 07:58.459 align:start ICEMILLER E-MAIL AND TEXT 07:58.462 --> 08:00.461 align:start ALERTS. 08:00.464 --> 08:02.296 align:start THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: 08:02.299 --> 08:03.731 align:start HOW WILL THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY 08:03.734 --> 08:05.833 align:start IMPACT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 08:05.836 --> 08:06.200 align:start RE-ELECTION CHANCES? 08:06.203 --> 08:07.968 align:start A. IT HELPS HIM. 08:07.971 --> 08:08.569 align:start B. IT HURTS HIM. 08:08.572 --> 08:08.802 align:start C. IT WILL HAVE LITTLE TO NO 08:08.805 --> 08:09.270 align:start EFFECT. 08:09.273 --> 08:10.337 align:start LAST WEEK'S QUESTION: 08:10.340 --> 08:13.841 align:start WHO WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC 08:13.844 --> 08:18.579 align:start NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR IN 2020? 08:18.582 --> 08:21.615 align:start A. WOODY MYERS. 08:21.618 --> 08:22.316 align:start 28%. 47%, JOSH OWNS. 25% SOMEONE 08:22.319 --> 08:22.950 align:start ELSE. 08:22.953 --> 08:25.452 align:start IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 08:25.455 --> 08:25.920 align:start IN THE POLL GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 08:25.923 --> 08:27.254 align:start AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 08:27.257 --> 08:28.722 align:start A NEW LAWSUIT IS CHALLENGING 08:28.725 --> 08:30.524 align:start INDIANA'S WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR 08:30.527 --> 08:32.226 align:start THE STATE'S MEDICAID EXPANSION 08:32.229 --> 08:32.993 align:start PROGRAM, HIP. INDIANA PUBLIC 08:32.996 --> 08:36.197 align:start BROADCASTING'S JILL SHERIDAN HAS 08:36.200 --> 08:36.830 align:start MORE. 08:36.833 --> 08:37.831 align:start MEDICAID WORK REQUIREMENTS HAVE 08:37.834 --> 08:39.200 align:start BEEN STRUCK DOWN IN THREE OTHER 08:39.203 --> 08:40.434 align:start STATES. INDIANA'S GATEWAY TO 08:40.437 --> 08:41.435 align:start WORK PROGRAM LAUNCHED AT THE 08:41.438 --> 08:44.205 align:start BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR AND 08:44.208 --> 08:45.806 align:start PEOPLE HAD TO START REPORTING 08:45.809 --> 08:46.073 align:start WORK, SCHOOL OR VOLUNTEER HOURS 08:46.076 --> 08:48.108 align:start IN JULY. 08:48.111 --> 08:48.676 align:start HIP MEMBERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO 08:48.679 --> 08:50.077 align:start REPORT 80 HOURS A MONTH BY 08:50.080 --> 08:51.845 align:start JANUARY 2020. THERE ARE A 08:51.848 --> 08:52.546 align:start NUMBER OF EXEMPTIONS INCLUDING 08:52.549 --> 08:54.048 align:start CAREGIVERS OR MEDICALLY FRAIL 08:54.051 --> 08:56.283 align:start INDIVIDUALS. 08:56.286 --> 08:57.384 align:start IN A WRITTEN STATEMENT, INDIANA 08:57.387 --> 08:58.018 align:start GOVERNOR ERIC HOLCOMB SAYS 08:58.021 --> 08:58.586 align:start INDIANA'S PROGRAM IS DIFFERENT. 08:58.589 --> 08:59.853 align:start HE SAYS IT INCLUDES, QUOTE, 08:59.856 --> 09:01.355 align:start “SUPPORTS AND PATHWAYS TO ENSURE 09:01.358 --> 09:02.389 align:start HOOSIERS CAN EASILY SKILL UP, 09:02.392 --> 09:03.791 align:start VOLUNTEER IN THEIR COMMUNITY, OR 09:03.794 --> 09:07.995 align:start GET A BETTER PAYING JOB.” MIKE 09:07.998 --> 09:10.731 align:start O'BRIEN, ARE THESE WORK 09:10.734 --> 09:15.502 align:start REQUIREMENTS IN JEOPARDY? 09:15.505 --> 09:16.870 align:start >> COULD BE. THE OTHER STATES 09:16.873 --> 09:18.272 align:start DID THROW IT OUT, INDIANA 09:18.275 --> 09:19.273 align:start STRUCTURED ITS PROGRAM 09:19.276 --> 09:21.108 align:start DIFFERENTLY. GAVE A LOT MORE 09:21.111 --> 09:23.944 align:start FLEXIBILITY IN HOW YOU MEET THE 09:23.947 --> 09:24.878 align:start REQUIREMENTS, A MUCH LONGER 09:24.881 --> 09:27.514 align:start RUN-UP, EDUCATION EFFORT FOR 09:27.517 --> 09:28.549 align:start COMPLIANCE, SO THE PEOPLE IN 09:28.552 --> 09:31.352 align:start THIS PROGRAM COULD WORK. 09:31.355 --> 09:34.421 align:start PHILOSOPHICALLY, I THINK THIS IS 09:34.424 --> 09:35.589 align:start SOMETHING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 09:35.592 --> 09:36.824 align:start MEDICAID PROGRAM IN GENERAL, TGS 09:36.827 --> 09:40.060 align:start NOT PREGNANT WOMEN AND CHILDREN 09:40.063 --> 09:41.662 align:start MADE TO GO TO WORK, OR THE 09:41.665 --> 09:43.030 align:start DISABLED, OR ELDERLY FOR 09:43.033 --> 09:44.665 align:start MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, IT IS 09:44.668 --> 09:46.433 align:start WORKING PEOPLE. AND IF WE'VE GOT 09:46.436 --> 09:48.802 align:start MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES FOR 09:48.805 --> 09:52.406 align:start PRESIDENT CALLING FOR MEDICARE 09:52.409 --> 09:54.575 align:start FOR ALL, OR A FULL EXPANSION, IF 09:54.578 --> 09:55.242 align:start THAT IS THE CASE, IT IS NOT 09:55.245 --> 09:57.411 align:start UNREASONABLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO 09:57.414 --> 09:59.580 align:start GET THIS FREE BENEFIT, OR THIS 09:59.583 --> 10:01.315 align:start TAXPAYER PAID BENEFIT, THEN YOU 10:01.318 --> 10:02.483 align:start OUGHT TO PUT SOMETHING BACK IN, 10:02.486 --> 10:03.984 align:start WHETHER IT'S COMMUNITY SERVICE, 10:03.987 --> 10:05.552 align:start GO VOLUNTEER, OR GO GET A JOB 10:05.555 --> 10:07.488 align:start FOR 20 HOURS A WEEK, AND GIVE 10:07.491 --> 10:08.589 align:start BACK THAT WAY. WE'RE GOING TO 10:08.592 --> 10:09.623 align:start CONTINUE TO GO IN DIRECTION 10:09.626 --> 10:11.325 align:start WHERE GOVERNMENT PROVIDED 10:11.328 --> 10:14.862 align:start HEALTHCARE CONTINUES TO EXPAND. 10:14.865 --> 10:16.096 align:start AND IT'S NOT THE OLD VULNERABLE 10:16.099 --> 10:17.631 align:start POPULATIONS ANYMORE, PEOPLE 10:17.634 --> 10:19.833 align:start THINK OF WE'RE MAKING PEOPLE ON 10:19.836 --> 10:20.034 align:start MEDICAID GO TO WORK, WHAT ARE WE 10:20.037 --> 10:21.935 align:start DOING? 10:21.938 --> 10:22.836 align:start >> THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT 10:22.839 --> 10:23.771 align:start WAYS YOU CAN MEET THIS 10:23.774 --> 10:25.272 align:start REQUIREMENT, YOU DON'T 10:25.275 --> 10:26.807 align:start NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET A JOB. 10:26.810 --> 10:27.274 align:start IT'S JOB TRAINING, VOLUNTEERING, 10:27.277 --> 10:29.843 align:start THINGS LIKE THAT. 10:29.846 --> 10:33.847 align:start DO ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS MAKE 10:33.850 --> 10:36.050 align:start THIS MORE PALATABLE? 10:36.053 --> 10:37.051 align:start >> BARELY. EVERY TIME I GET 10:37.054 --> 10:38.485 align:start REPUBLICANS WANTING TO DO 10:38.488 --> 10:39.753 align:start SOMETHING FOR THE POOR PEOPLE, I 10:39.756 --> 10:41.388 align:start WANT TO LIFT UP THE COVER TO SEE 10:41.391 --> 10:43.123 align:start WHAT IS THERE. YOU'RE TALKING 10:43.126 --> 10:44.491 align:start ABOUT 100,000 PEOPLE AND YOU'RE 10:44.494 --> 10:46.293 align:start GOING TO ESTABLISH AN ENTIRE 10:46.296 --> 10:47.895 align:start BUREAUCRACY TO MONITOR IT. THAT 10:47.898 --> 10:49.830 align:start MONEY WOULD MUCH BETTER BE PUT 10:49.833 --> 10:51.365 align:start TO OTHER PURPOSES, LIKE, FOR 10:51.368 --> 10:53.000 align:start EXAMPLE, RAISING THE MINIMUM 10:53.003 --> 10:55.569 align:start WAGE SO PEOPLE HAVE INCENTIVE, 10:55.572 --> 10:55.769 align:start WHERE'S THE MARKET FORCE AT WORK 10:55.772 --> 10:57.338 align:start HERE? 10:57.341 --> 10:58.672 align:start WE HAVE THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT 10:58.675 --> 11:01.108 align:start WE'VE HAD, AND YET WE CAN'T 11:01.111 --> 11:02.209 align:start RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO MAKE 11:02.212 --> 11:04.645 align:start IT ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO TRY 11:04.648 --> 11:06.613 align:start TO FIND WORK. INSTEAD WE WANT TO 11:06.616 --> 11:08.615 align:start HARASS THEM BECAUSE GOD FORBID 11:08.618 --> 11:12.086 align:start THEY GET SICK AND WE HAVE TO PAY 11:12.089 --> 11:14.722 align:start NOR IT. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS 11:14.725 --> 11:15.389 align:start WHEN THEY'RE OFF MEDICAID, HIGH 11:15.392 --> 11:17.391 align:start PRESSURE TENSION AND DIABETES 11:17.394 --> 11:18.759 align:start GET OUT OF CONTROL, AND THEY GO 11:18.762 --> 11:21.095 align:start TO EMERGENCY ROOMS, AND IT COST 11:21.098 --> 11:22.830 align:start US MORE. SO EVERY TIME THE 11:22.833 --> 11:25.866 align:start REPUBLICANS TRY TO DO SOMETHING, 11:25.869 --> 11:27.968 align:start ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO 11:27.971 --> 11:29.603 align:start BASICALLY SLAP PEOPLE WHO ARE 11:29.606 --> 11:33.273 align:start NOW POOR AND SICK DOWN. AND I'M 11:33.276 --> 11:33.807 align:start GETTING A LITTLE TIRED OF IT, 11:33.810 --> 11:36.143 align:start FRANKLY. 11:36.146 --> 11:37.144 align:start >> ANY OF THESE OTHER STATES WHO 11:37.147 --> 11:39.913 align:start HAVE LAWSUITS AGAINST THEIR 11:39.916 --> 11:41.281 align:start PROGRAMS, THE GOVERNORS, AND 11:41.284 --> 11:43.317 align:start THOSE STATES, THE LEGISLATURES 11:43.320 --> 11:44.952 align:start WHO HAVE FACED A LOT OF 11:44.955 --> 11:45.853 align:start SCRUTINY. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT 11:45.856 --> 11:48.722 align:start AT ALL, HAVE WE? 11:48.725 --> 11:49.857 align:start >> NO. THE ROLLOUT HAS BEEN 11:49.860 --> 11:51.859 align:start EXTREMELY QUIET. A FEW STORIES 11:51.862 --> 11:55.329 align:start HERE AND THERE. I THINK THAT IS 11:55.332 --> 11:56.597 align:start PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE LARGE 11:56.600 --> 11:58.165 align:start NUMBER OF EXEMPTIONS OR WAYS YOU 11:58.168 --> 11:59.600 align:start CAN FILL IT. I THINK WE'RE 11:59.603 --> 12:01.068 align:start GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE A LOT 12:01.071 --> 12:03.404 align:start OF SORT AVERAGE FOLKS OUT THERE 12:03.407 --> 12:04.705 align:start THINK, YOU KNOW, GOODNESS, YOU 12:04.708 --> 12:06.807 align:start KNOW, YES, MAYBE YOUR CURRENT 12:06.810 --> 12:08.075 align:start JOB DOESN'T WORK, BUT THERE'S SO 12:08.078 --> 12:09.676 align:start MANY JOBS OUT THERE THAT NEED TO 12:09.679 --> 12:12.479 align:start BE FILLED, AND IT'S ONLY 20 12:12.482 --> 12:15.182 align:start HOURS A WEEK. WE'RE NOT ASKING 12:15.185 --> 12:17.484 align:start THEM TO -- ON, WORK 60-HOUR 12:17.487 --> 12:17.885 align:start WEEKS AND NOT BE ABLE TO RAISE 12:17.888 --> 12:19.987 align:start THEIR FAMILY. 12:19.990 --> 12:21.588 align:start >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 12:21.591 --> 12:23.056 align:start ARE INJURED OR WHATEVER WHO 12:23.059 --> 12:24.825 align:start HAVEN'T QUALIFIED FOR SOCIAL 12:24.828 --> 12:26.527 align:start SECURITY DISABILITY, WHICH IS 12:26.530 --> 12:28.295 align:start REALLY TOUGH TO DO. AND ARE IN A 12:28.298 --> 12:30.097 align:start POSITION TO WORK, AND EVEN IF 12:30.100 --> 12:33.033 align:start THEY WORK, THEY'RE GOING TO BE 12:33.036 --> 12:35.702 align:start WORKING FOR $7.25, OR MAYBE 8, 12:35.705 --> 12:37.438 align:start OR 9 AN HOUR, WITHOUT BENEFITS. 12:37.441 --> 12:39.406 align:start >> BUT DOES THE ARGUMENT NIKI 12:39.409 --> 12:40.474 align:start JUST MADE, THE IDEA OF ALL THE 12:40.477 --> 12:41.675 align:start DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN QUALIFY, 12:41.678 --> 12:42.876 align:start YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK A FULL 12:42.879 --> 12:45.712 align:start TIME JOB IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO 12:45.715 --> 12:46.480 align:start GET THESE BENEFITS, DOES NA HELP 12:46.483 --> 12:48.348 align:start ERIC HOLCOMB IN THE COURT OF 12:48.351 --> 12:48.682 align:start PUBLIC OPINION WHEN HE RUNS FOR 12:48.685 --> 12:50.918 align:start RE-ELECTION? 12:50.921 --> 12:52.252 align:start >> IT PROBABLY DOES, FOR THE 12:52.255 --> 12:55.856 align:start REASONS THAT NIKI SPELLED OUT, 12:55.859 --> 12:56.757 align:start THE NOTION THAT SPORT OF THE 12:56.760 --> 12:58.158 align:start HOOSIER COMMON SENSE PHILOSOPHY 12:58.161 --> 13:00.260 align:start THAT YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING FOR 13:00.263 --> 13:00.627 align:start FREE, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME SKIN 13:00.630 --> 13:03.230 align:start IN THE GAME. 13:03.233 --> 13:05.232 align:start >> WE DO LOVE THAT PHRASE. 13:05.235 --> 13:07.000 align:start >> SO HEALTHCARE IS NOT A RIGHT. 13:07.003 --> 13:08.969 align:start >> LOOK, I'M TELLING YOU THE 13:08.972 --> 13:11.138 align:start REALITIES OF IT. I'M NOT TELLING 13:11.141 --> 13:13.407 align:start YOU MY OPINION. AS A PRACTICAL 13:13.410 --> 13:17.644 align:start MATTER, OUR OPINIONS DON'T 13:17.647 --> 13:19.480 align:start MATTER, AND FRANKLY HOOSIER 13:19.483 --> 13:21.281 align:start VOTERS DOESN'T MATTER, THE 13:21.284 --> 13:23.884 align:start DISTRICT JUDGE, THE SAME JUDGE 13:23.887 --> 13:25.185 align:start WHO DECIDED THE KENTUCKY, BAM, 13:25.188 --> 13:27.054 align:start OR ARK, KENTUCKY AND NEW 13:27.057 --> 13:29.289 align:start HAMPSHIRE CASES. IF YOU READ 13:29.292 --> 13:31.024 align:start WHAT HE RULED, IN THOSE CASINGS, 13:31.027 --> 13:32.793 align:start IT WASN'T ABOUT HOW NICE THE 13:32.796 --> 13:36.196 align:start STATE WAS, OR HOW MEAN THE STATE 13:36.199 --> 13:39.333 align:start WAS, IT COMES DOWN TO WHETHER IT 13:39.336 --> 13:41.802 align:start WAS BASICALLY A THUMBING OF THE 13:41.805 --> 13:43.570 align:start NOSE, BASICALLY AT THE 13:43.573 --> 13:45.606 align:start STATUTE -- THE STATUTE THAT 13:45.609 --> 13:48.175 align:start CREATED THE MEDICAID PROGRAM. 13:48.178 --> 13:50.677 align:start SO, IT REALLY DOESN'T -- IF 13:50.680 --> 13:51.879 align:start THAT'S WHAT, UPON WHICH THE 13:51.882 --> 13:54.748 align:start PENDULUM UPON WHICH THIS HINGES 13:54.751 --> 13:55.949 align:start FOR HIM, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF 13:55.952 --> 14:00.654 align:start SOMEONE SHOWS UP AT YOUR HOUSE 14:00.657 --> 14:01.588 align:start AND DRIVES YOU TO YOUR JOB, IT'S 14:01.591 --> 14:04.558 align:start STILL PROBLEMATIC. 14:04.561 --> 14:07.160 align:start >> A TECHNICAL LEGAL ARGUMENT. 14:07.163 --> 14:08.795 align:start >> ALL RENDERED MOOT BY THE U.S. 14:08.798 --> 14:10.330 align:start COURT OF APPEALS, WHICH ARE 14:10.333 --> 14:13.333 align:start HEARING OTHER STATE'S APPEALS. 14:13.336 --> 14:13.834 align:start >> IT PROBABLY WON'T BE THE 14:13.837 --> 14:15.769 align:start INDIANA CASE. 14:15.772 --> 14:16.470 align:start >> JUDGES MATTER MORE THAN WE 14:16.473 --> 14:17.771 align:start DO. 14:17.774 --> 14:17.905 align:start >> THEY GENERALLY DO. 14:17.908 --> 14:18.739 align:start >> 14:18.742 --> 14:20.007 align:start SECRETARY OF STATE CONNIE LAWSON 14:20.010 --> 14:20.841 align:start SAYS INDIANA LEGISLATORS 14:20.844 --> 14:21.542 align:start WOULDN'T PROVIDE FUNDING FOR 14:21.545 --> 14:22.643 align:start ELECTION SECURITY MEASURES AT 14:22.646 --> 14:23.577 align:start THE LEVEL SHE WANTED THOUGH SHE 14:23.580 --> 14:24.845 align:start SAYS HOOSIERS SHOULD STILL HAVE 14:24.848 --> 14:28.482 align:start CONFIDENCE THEIR VOTES ARE 14:28.485 --> 14:29.316 align:start SECURE. 14:29.319 --> 14:32.052 align:start ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF INDIANA 14:32.055 --> 14:34.488 align:start COUNTIES USE ELECTRONIC VOTING 14:34.491 --> 14:37.758 align:start MACHINES THAT EXPERTS SAY SHOULD 14:37.761 --> 14:38.325 align:start INCLUDE PAPER AUDIT TRAILS. THE 14:38.328 --> 14:38.959 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS YEAR 14:38.962 --> 14:40.460 align:start APPROPRIATED 10 MILLION DOLLARS 14:40.463 --> 14:41.862 align:start IN THE NEW STATE BUDGET FOR 14:41.865 --> 14:42.462 align:start ELECTION SECURITY WHICH WILL PAY 14:42.465 --> 14:43.363 align:start TO ADD THOSE PAPER TRAILS TO 14:43.366 --> 14:45.832 align:start JUST 10 PERCENT OF THE MACHINES 14:45.835 --> 14:48.435 align:start THAT NEED THEM BY NEXT YEAR. 14:48.438 --> 14:49.069 align:start LAWSON SAYS SHE INITIALLY ASKED 14:49.072 --> 14:49.636 align:start BUDGET WRITERS FOR MORE MONEY. 14:49.639 --> 14:50.270 align:start SECRETARY OF STATE CONNIE 14:50.273 --> 14:53.674 align:start LAWSON: BUT THEY TOLD US TO GET 14:53.677 --> 14:55.108 align:start REAL. SO, WE GOT REAL AND WE 14:55.111 --> 15:01.615 align:start TRIED TO HONE IT DOWN TO WHERE 15:01.618 --> 15:02.182 align:start IT WAS POSSIBLE TO GET THE 15:02.185 --> 15:02.716 align:start DOLLARS IT WILL BE A DECADE 15:02.719 --> 15:04.484 align:start BEFORE ALL INDIANA VOTING 15:04.487 --> 15:05.118 align:start MACHINES THAT NEED PAPER TRAILS 15:05.121 --> 15:07.854 align:start GET THEM, UNLESS COUNTIES MOVE 15:07.857 --> 15:11.625 align:start FORWARD ON THEIR OWN. 15:11.628 --> 15:14.661 align:start NIKI KELLY, THIS IS THE FIRST 15:14.664 --> 15:17.397 align:start TIME LAWSON HAS SAID SHE WANTED 15:17.400 --> 15:21.835 align:start MORE MONEY THAN LAWMAKERS WOULD 15:21.838 --> 15:23.136 align:start PROVIDE. DOES THAT CHANGE THE 15:23.139 --> 15:25.939 align:start DISCUSSION AROUND THIS ISSUE? 15:25.942 --> 15:28.775 align:start >> I DON'T THINK SO. ULTIMATELY, 15:28.778 --> 15:30.510 align:start BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S HOW THE 15:30.513 --> 15:32.212 align:start BUDGET SYSTEMS BASICALLY WORKS. 15:32.215 --> 15:33.847 align:start EVERY SINGLE AGENCY WENT TO THEM 15:33.850 --> 15:36.583 align:start WANTING MORE MONEY, I'LL BET. 15:36.586 --> 15:39.119 align:start AND THEY HAD TO BE MORE 15:39.122 --> 15:39.987 align:start REALISTIC. THEY DIDN'T EVEN GIVE 15:39.990 --> 15:40.454 align:start DCS WHAT THEY WANTED. 15:40.457 --> 15:42.255 align:start >> TRUE. 15:42.258 --> 15:44.291 align:start >> I DO THINK THE REAL QUESTION 15:44.294 --> 15:45.792 align:start IS ONCE WE REALIZE WE HAVE ALL 15:45.795 --> 15:48.862 align:start THIS EXTRA MONEY, LIKE WHY 15:48.865 --> 15:51.999 align:start DIDN'T WE THROW SOME EXTRA MONEY 15:52.002 --> 15:53.700 align:start AT MAKING THESE MACHINES 15:53.703 --> 15:56.169 align:start CORRECT, OR MORE SECURE FOR THIS 15:56.172 --> 15:59.806 align:start YEAR INSTEAD OF BUILDING THE 15:59.809 --> 16:01.408 align:start SWINE BARN FOR -- OUT OF CASH, 16:01.411 --> 16:04.011 align:start INSTEAD OF BONDING. 16:04.014 --> 16:05.045 align:start >> DOES IT FALL LESS ON 16:05.048 --> 16:06.813 align:start LAWMAKERS WHO WOULDN'T FIND ROOM 16:06.816 --> 16:08.749 align:start IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS AND OTHER 16:08.752 --> 16:11.852 align:start THINGS, OR MORE ON WHY AREN'T WE 16:11.855 --> 16:12.486 align:start USING SOME OF THE $400 MILLION 16:12.489 --> 16:14.888 align:start SURPLUS? 16:14.891 --> 16:16.089 align:start >> IT'S A MIX. THERE ARE SOME 16:16.092 --> 16:17.858 align:start THAT DOUBT THERE IS ANY THREAT 16:17.861 --> 16:20.327 align:start TO THE SANCTITY OF OUR 16:20.330 --> 16:20.527 align:start ELECTIONS, SO THEY THINK THIS 16:20.530 --> 16:21.061 align:start IS... 16:21.064 --> 16:22.496 align:start >> OVERBLOWN. 16:22.499 --> 16:25.232 align:start >> THEN YOU HAVE THOSE WHO JUST 16:25.235 --> 16:25.832 align:start LOOK AT THE DEMANDS, AND THE 16:25.835 --> 16:27.634 align:start PRESSING NATURE OF SO MUCH 16:27.637 --> 16:28.969 align:start THINGS IN THIS STATE. DO YOU 16:28.972 --> 16:29.870 align:start GUARD AGAINST SOMETHING THAT, 16:29.873 --> 16:31.638 align:start OKAY, EVEN IF WE ACKNOWLEDGE 16:31.641 --> 16:34.341 align:start THERE WERE PROBLEMS, DO WE SPEND 16:34.344 --> 16:35.842 align:start A LOT OF MONEY TO GUARD AGAINST 16:35.845 --> 16:38.378 align:start THAT TO THE ENDth DEGREE, OR 16:38.381 --> 16:39.780 align:start TAKE A STEP AND DEAL WITH THE 16:39.783 --> 16:41.214 align:start OTHER FINANCIAL FRESHES AND 16:41.217 --> 16:42.883 align:start CHALLENGES WE FACE AS A STATE. 16:42.886 --> 16:44.451 align:start AND THEN I THINK YOU HAVE A FAIR 16:44.454 --> 16:46.920 align:start NUMBER WHO ARE JUST STILL 16:46.923 --> 16:49.122 align:start HOLDING ONTO THE HOPE THAT THE 16:49.125 --> 16:52.859 align:start FEDS COME IN OVER THE MOUNTAIN 16:52.862 --> 16:56.930 align:start TOP, RIDING THE HORSES OF RESCUE 16:56.933 --> 16:57.931 align:start AND DELIVER FEDERAL FUNDS. 16:57.934 --> 16:59.800 align:start $7.5 MILLION IN FEDERAL GRANT 16:59.803 --> 17:03.170 align:start MONEYS SHE'S USING. BUT I THINK 17:03.173 --> 17:03.804 align:start THERE ARE PEOPLE HOLDING OUT ON 17:03.807 --> 17:05.572 align:start THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYING 17:05.575 --> 17:06.873 align:start DON'T WORRY, STATES, WE GOT YOU 17:06.876 --> 17:09.142 align:start COVERED ON THIS. 17:09.145 --> 17:10.477 align:start >> CONNIE LAWSON POINTED OUT 17:10.480 --> 17:11.745 align:start MORE THAN ONCE THE COMPANIES WHO 17:11.748 --> 17:13.280 align:start MAKE THESE FOR INDIANA LITERALLY 17:13.283 --> 17:15.415 align:start COULDN'T MAKE ENOUGH TO PUT ON 17:15.418 --> 17:16.983 align:start EVERY MACHINE THAT NEEDS ONE BY 17:16.986 --> 17:19.086 align:start 2020. BUT, I BET THEY COULD GET 17:19.089 --> 17:20.721 align:start TO LIKE HALF. AND THAT'S 17:20.724 --> 17:22.389 align:start $40 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT 17:22.392 --> 17:25.025 align:start WE SPENT ON -- WHAT WE'RE GOING 17:25.028 --> 17:26.359 align:start TO SPEND ON THE SWINE BARN. SO, 17:26.362 --> 17:29.362 align:start AGAIN, DOES THIS -- DOES THAT 17:29.365 --> 17:29.830 align:start NOT REFLECT WELL ON GOVERNOR 17:29.833 --> 17:31.264 align:start HOLCOMB'S PRIORITIES? 17:31.267 --> 17:33.300 align:start >> I THINK THERE'S A LOT GOING 17:33.303 --> 17:34.367 align:start ON HERE, I THINK IT'S A MIX OF 17:34.370 --> 17:36.403 align:start PEOPLE DISAGREE THERE WAS ANY 17:36.406 --> 17:38.405 align:start EVIDENCE THE ELECTION WAS 17:38.408 --> 17:40.173 align:start LITERALLY TAMPERED WITH, THAT 17:40.176 --> 17:42.209 align:start MACHINES IN MARION COUNTY, OR 17:42.212 --> 17:44.745 align:start HENDRICKS COUNTY, INDIANA, 17:44.748 --> 17:45.645 align:start WHEREVER WERE AT RISK OR 17:45.648 --> 17:48.215 align:start TAMPERED WITH. THERE'S 17:48.218 --> 17:49.349 align:start PRODUCTION ISSUES ON DELIVERING 17:49.352 --> 17:50.684 align:start THESE MACHINES. WE FORGET THE 17:50.687 --> 17:55.322 align:start FACT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THESE ON 17:55.325 --> 17:58.458 align:start THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AND WE'RE 17:58.461 --> 17:59.926 align:start ASKING 92 CLERKS AND COUNCILS 17:59.929 --> 18:03.764 align:start AND COMMISSIONERS TO ACTUALLY DO 18:03.767 --> 18:06.600 align:start THIS, AND ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE 18:06.603 --> 18:08.301 align:start IN TIME FOR MAY, WHICH IS A REAL 18:08.304 --> 18:10.303 align:start LIFT. WE FORGET IN THE NATIONAL, 18:10.306 --> 18:11.738 align:start ELECTIONS ARE RUN LOCALLY, 18:11.741 --> 18:14.775 align:start LARGELY ONE BY VOLUNTEERS, AND 18:14.778 --> 18:20.147 align:start THERE IS NOT BUY-IN THAT THE 18:20.150 --> 18:24.551 align:start PAPER TRAIL IS THE SECURE OPTION 18:24.554 --> 18:27.721 align:start ANYWAY. SOME AUDITABLE WAY. 18:27.724 --> 18:28.822 align:start >> IS THAT THE BIGGEST ISSUE? 18:28.825 --> 18:30.423 align:start WE CAN'T ALL AGREE ON EXACTLY 18:30.426 --> 18:32.592 align:start WHAT WE NEED? 18:32.595 --> 18:35.128 align:start >> NO. EVERYBODY AGREES HAVING A 18:35.131 --> 18:36.696 align:start PAPER TRAIL IS PREFERABLE. THERE 18:36.699 --> 18:37.864 align:start WAS EVIDENCE OF THE RUSSIANS 18:37.867 --> 18:39.499 align:start TRYING TO GET INTO EACH STATE 18:39.502 --> 18:40.967 align:start SYSTEM. THERE WAS EVIDENCE. I'M 18:40.970 --> 18:43.503 align:start NOT SAYING THAT THEY CHANGED THE 18:43.506 --> 18:45.005 align:start OUTCOME. NOW WE HAVE FOUR YEARS 18:45.008 --> 18:46.273 align:start ELAPSING, TOO. WHO KNOWS HOW 18:46.276 --> 18:47.808 align:start MUCH BETTER THEY'VE GOTTEN. BY 18:47.811 --> 18:48.909 align:start THE WAY, MARION COUNTY HAS A 18:48.912 --> 18:52.479 align:start PAPER BACKUP, WHICH IS WHY 18:52.482 --> 18:54.548 align:start THEY'RE NOT AT RISK. BUT, WHAT 18:54.551 --> 18:56.550 align:start YOU HAVE WITH THIS IS AN 18:56.553 --> 18:58.785 align:start UNWILLINGNESS, THEY THINK THAT 18:58.788 --> 18:59.986 align:start THE STATE'S A BANK. THAT'S WHAT 18:59.989 --> 19:01.855 align:start THEY THINK. THEY COLLECT THIS 19:01.858 --> 19:03.590 align:start MONEY AND HOARD IT AND SAY LOOK 19:03.593 --> 19:05.192 align:start HOW GREAT WE ARE, WE HAVE ALL 19:05.195 --> 19:07.093 align:start THIS MONEY IN THE BANK, AND 19:07.096 --> 19:08.562 align:start THERE ARE THESE PRESSING NEEDS, 19:08.565 --> 19:09.763 align:start AND I THINK THE SANCTITY OF THE 19:09.766 --> 19:11.198 align:start ELECTION IS A PRETTY DARN 19:11.201 --> 19:12.966 align:start PRESSING NEED, AND WE KNOW IT 19:12.969 --> 19:14.501 align:start CAN BE ADDRESSED. AND IF THERE'S 19:14.504 --> 19:16.203 align:start ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THOSE 19:16.206 --> 19:17.838 align:start MACHINES, I'LL BET YOU THEY CAN 19:17.841 --> 19:20.006 align:start GET DONE. THEY MAY NOT GET DONE 19:20.009 --> 19:20.473 align:start BY THE PRIMARY, BUT CERTAINLY BY 19:20.476 --> 19:21.208 align:start THE GENERAL ELECTION. 19:21.211 --> 19:21.842 align:start >> 19:21.845 --> 19:22.475 align:start INDIANA ATTORNEY GENERAL CURTIS 19:22.478 --> 19:25.846 align:start HILL SAYS HE SUPPORTS A PROPOSED 19:25.849 --> 19:28.315 align:start MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR SETTLEMENT 19:28.318 --> 19:28.849 align:start WITH DRUGMAKER PURDUE PHARMA. 19:28.852 --> 19:29.783 align:start MORE THAN TWO DOZEN STATE 19:29.786 --> 19:31.685 align:start ATTORNEYS GENERAL AND MORE THAN 19:31.688 --> 19:33.854 align:start TWO THOUSAND CITIES NATIONWIDE 19:33.857 --> 19:34.788 align:start REACHED A TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT 19:34.791 --> 19:38.091 align:start WITH THE OXYCONTIN MAKER ACCUSED 19:38.094 --> 19:38.692 align:start BY MANY OF PLAYING A MAJOR ROLE 19:38.695 --> 19:40.460 align:start IN THE COUNTRY'S OPIOID ABUSE 19:40.463 --> 19:41.828 align:start EPIDEMIC. 19:41.831 --> 19:42.729 align:start IN A STATEMENT, CURTIS HILL'S 19:42.732 --> 19:44.831 align:start OFFICE SAYS THE DEAL WOULD HOLD 19:44.834 --> 19:45.432 align:start PURDUE PHARMA AND ITS OWNERS, 19:45.435 --> 19:46.466 align:start THE SACKLER FAMILY, DIRECTLY 19:46.469 --> 19:47.367 align:start ACCOUNTABLE AND THAT THE MONEY 19:47.370 --> 19:49.836 align:start WILL FLOW TO THE PEOPLE WHO MOST 19:49.839 --> 19:51.071 align:start NEED IT. 19:51.074 --> 19:52.472 align:start HILL'S STATEMENT SAYS THE 19:52.475 --> 19:55.242 align:start ALTERNATIVE IS AN UNCERTAIN AND 19:55.245 --> 19:55.876 align:start LIKELY LENGTHY LEGAL BATTLE. 19:55.879 --> 19:56.977 align:start BUT A COUPLE DOZEN OTHER STATE 19:56.980 --> 19:57.811 align:start ATTORNEYS GENERAL OPPOSE THE 19:57.814 --> 20:00.580 align:start DEAL, DECRYING IT AS WOEFULLY 20:00.583 --> 20:01.848 align:start INADEQUATE. 20:01.851 --> 20:04.451 align:start JON SCHWANTES, IS IT BETTER TO 20:04.454 --> 20:07.587 align:start TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN OR HOLD 20:07.590 --> 20:10.090 align:start OUT FOR MORE? 20:10.093 --> 20:11.858 align:start >> IF I KNEW THE ANSWER, I WOULD 20:11.861 --> 20:14.794 align:start BE AT THE CASINO MAKING MORE 20:14.797 --> 20:19.499 align:start MONEY THAN I AM HERE. 20:19.502 --> 20:21.701 align:start YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. I 20:21.704 --> 20:23.169 align:start DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN REALLY 20:23.172 --> 20:24.938 align:start ASSIGN A LOT OF POLITICAL 20:24.941 --> 20:26.640 align:start MOTIVATION HERE. I WILL SAY THAT 20:26.643 --> 20:28.675 align:start THERE ARE A LOT OF THEORIES 20:28.678 --> 20:29.843 align:start GOING AROUND. IF YOU LOOK AT HOW 20:29.846 --> 20:31.745 align:start ATTORNEYS GENERAL ACROSS THE 20:31.748 --> 20:33.013 align:start COUNTRY HAVE BROKEN DOWN ON THIS 20:33.016 --> 20:35.248 align:start ISSUE, IT'S, GEE, LIKE 20:35.251 --> 20:36.750 align:start EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR COUNTRY, 20:36.753 --> 20:39.185 align:start ABOUT 50/50 SEEMS TO BE SPLIT. I 20:39.188 --> 20:41.788 align:start THINK 20 OR SO ARE SUPPORTIVE, 20:41.791 --> 20:46.326 align:start YOU HAVE 24, 25, COUPLE DOZEN. 20:46.329 --> 20:47.794 align:start >> ALMOST 50/50. 20:47.797 --> 20:48.361 align:start >> THEY DO TEND TO BE 20:48.364 --> 20:50.163 align:start REPUBLICANS FOR DEMOCRATS 20:50.166 --> 20:52.799 align:start AGAINST, WITH TWO EXCEPTIONS IN 20:52.802 --> 20:55.602 align:start EACH. TWO OTHER SWITCHES. NOW 20:55.605 --> 20:57.837 align:start THERE HAS BEEN REPORTING 20:57.840 --> 20:59.806 align:start SUGGESTING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN 20:59.809 --> 21:02.409 align:start LARGE CONTRIBUTIONS IN SUPPORT 21:02.412 --> 21:04.477 align:start THAT PURDUE PHARMA AND MEMBERS 21:04.480 --> 21:05.845 align:start OF THE SACKLER FAMILY HAD DONE 21:05.848 --> 21:07.814 align:start WHAT THE REPUBLICAN ATTORNEY 21:07.817 --> 21:09.883 align:start GENERAL'S ASSOCIATION, BUT THEN 21:09.886 --> 21:10.784 align:start THEY'VE ALSO GIVEN A LESSER 21:10.787 --> 21:11.918 align:start AMOUNT TO THE DEMOCRATIC 21:11.921 --> 21:13.720 align:start COUNTERPART TO THAT. I SUPPOSE 21:13.723 --> 21:15.922 align:start YOU CAN FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING 21:15.925 --> 21:17.857 align:start FOR. BUT, THE REALITY OF THIS IS 21:17.860 --> 21:21.227 align:start WE SAW THIS WEEK ALSO THAT IF IN 21:21.230 --> 21:22.195 align:start FACT AS PART OF THE BANKRUPTCY 21:22.198 --> 21:24.297 align:start PROCEEDINGS, PURDUE PHARMA IS 21:24.300 --> 21:26.433 align:start GOING FOR, THEY SAID IF, AS PART 21:26.436 --> 21:30.971 align:start OF THE BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS, 21:30.974 --> 21:32.906 align:start THERE'S NOT BASICALLY A BLOCKADE 21:32.909 --> 21:34.341 align:start PUT UP BY ATTORNEYS GENERAL WHO 21:34.344 --> 21:36.776 align:start DON'T SUPPORT THIS, THERE MIGHT 21:36.779 --> 21:37.277 align:start NOT BE ANY MONEY TO PAY THE 21:37.280 --> 21:39.245 align:start $3 BILLION... 21:39.248 --> 21:39.446 align:start >> DOES THAT PLAY HEAVILY INTO 21:39.449 --> 21:41.047 align:start THIS? 21:41.050 --> 21:43.817 align:start >> IT SURE DOES. I DON'T THINK 21:43.820 --> 21:49.089 align:start I'M QUALIFIED TO KNOW, I DON'T 21:49.092 --> 21:49.723 align:start KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS 21:49.726 --> 21:50.357 align:start SETT 21:50.360 --> 21:52.325 align:start SETTLEMENT. IF TURNED DOWN IT 21:52.328 --> 21:53.860 align:start WOULD BE A PROTRACTED BATTLE. 21:53.863 --> 21:56.696 align:start WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BIRD IN 21:56.699 --> 21:58.465 align:start THE HAND VERSUS THE FUTURE, I 21:58.468 --> 22:00.467 align:start DON'T SEE IT AS COMPLETELY OUT 22:00.470 --> 22:03.036 align:start OF THE REALM TO TAKE IT. 22:03.039 --> 22:03.636 align:start >> THIS IS NOT THE STATES AND 22:03.639 --> 22:04.504 align:start THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOING 22:04.507 --> 22:06.806 align:start AFTER THE CIGARETTE COMPANIES. 22:06.809 --> 22:08.008 align:start FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ONE COMPANY, 22:08.011 --> 22:09.843 align:start AND THEY ARE IN BANKRUPTCY 22:09.846 --> 22:11.011 align:start ALREADY. SO IS IT BEST TO JUST 22:11.014 --> 22:13.580 align:start GET WHAT YOU CAN NOW? 22:13.583 --> 22:16.016 align:start >> DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU 22:16.019 --> 22:19.419 align:start CAN PIERCE THE CORPORATE VEIL 22:19.422 --> 22:21.287 align:start AND GO AFTER THE FAMILY WHOSE 22:21.290 --> 22:22.422 align:start ASSETS ARE STILL OUT THERE. YOU 22:22.425 --> 22:24.224 align:start DON'T KNOW WHETHER TAKING THE 22:24.227 --> 22:25.825 align:start MONEY AND RUN OR SUING IS THE 22:25.828 --> 22:27.594 align:start RIGHT WAY, AND YOU WON'T KNOW 22:27.597 --> 22:30.030 align:start UNTIL THIS IS OVER. IT'S 22:30.033 --> 22:34.434 align:start INTERESTING TO ME THAT HE ALWAYS 22:34.437 --> 22:35.969 align:start FINDS LITIGATION ADVANCES HIS 22:35.972 --> 22:37.037 align:start RELIGIOUS AGENDA AND BACKS AWAY 22:37.040 --> 22:37.837 align:start FROM OTHER THINGS. I DON'T KNOW 22:37.840 --> 22:40.173 align:start WHETHER HE'S DOING THE RIGHT 22:40.176 --> 22:40.874 align:start MOVE OR NOT. AND WE WON'T KNOW 22:40.877 --> 22:42.842 align:start FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 22:42.845 --> 22:45.078 align:start >> IS THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, 22:45.081 --> 22:47.647 align:start WE CAN'T KNOW FOR A REALLY LONG 22:47.650 --> 22:49.549 align:start TIME UNTIL ALL THIS SHAKES OUT? 22:49.552 --> 22:51.217 align:start >> AND PEOPLE KEEP COMPARING 22:51.220 --> 22:52.318 align:start THIS TO THE TOBACCO SETTLEMENT 22:52.321 --> 22:54.320 align:start AGREEMENT, WHICH IS STILL BEING 22:54.323 --> 22:56.689 align:start PAID OUT OVER 20 YEARS LATER. 22:56.692 --> 22:59.259 align:start THAT'S BECAUSE THE COMPANIES 22:59.262 --> 23:00.460 align:start STILL EXIST, MANUFACTURE PRODUCT 23:00.463 --> 23:02.328 align:start AND CONTINUE TO FUND THAT 23:02.331 --> 23:03.530 align:start SETTLEMENT THAT WAY. THAT'S NOT 23:03.533 --> 23:03.663 align:start THE CASE HERE. 23:03.666 --> 23:04.230 align:start >> 23:04.233 --> 23:04.864 align:start A NEW REPORT FROM CHALKBEAT 23:04.867 --> 23:05.832 align:start SHOWS SOME INDIANA SCHOOLS MAY 23:05.835 --> 23:08.568 align:start BE ARTIFICIALLY INCREASING THEIR 23:08.571 --> 23:09.035 align:start GRADUATION RATES BY MASKING 23:09.038 --> 23:12.172 align:start DROPOUTS AS STUDENTS 23:12.175 --> 23:15.442 align:start TRANSITIONING TO HOME SCHOOLING. 23:15.445 --> 23:16.042 align:start CHALKBEAT'S REPORT LOOKED AT 23:16.045 --> 23:16.643 align:start 2018 STUDENT DATA FROM AROUND 23:16.646 --> 23:18.244 align:start THE STATE. IT FOUND THAT MORE 23:18.247 --> 23:19.546 align:start THAN HALF OF THE 37 HUNDRED 23:19.549 --> 23:21.448 align:start HOOSIER STUDENTS RECORDED AS 23:21.451 --> 23:25.852 align:start MOVING TO HOME-SCHOOL WERE IN 23:25.855 --> 23:26.486 align:start JUST 61 OF THE STATE'S 507 HIGH 23:26.489 --> 23:28.455 align:start SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS WHERE THE RATIO 23:28.458 --> 23:29.089 align:start OF THOSE LEAVING TO HOME-SCHOOL 23:29.092 --> 23:30.023 align:start TO STUDENTS EARNING DIPLOMAS WAS 23:30.026 --> 23:33.093 align:start MUCH HIGHER THAN THE STATE 23:33.096 --> 23:33.693 align:start AVERAGE. 23:33.696 --> 23:34.427 align:start CHALKBEAT SAYS THOSE NUMBERS 23:34.430 --> 23:36.129 align:start SUGGEST THE STATE'S METHOD FOR 23:36.132 --> 23:37.864 align:start CALCULATING GRADUATION RATES - 23:37.867 --> 23:40.200 align:start AND ITS “LAX REGULATION OF HOME 23:40.203 --> 23:41.000 align:start SCHOOLING” - IS OBSCURING 23:41.003 --> 23:43.470 align:start DROPOUT ISSUES AT SOME HOOSIER 23:43.473 --> 23:44.971 align:start HIGH SCHOOLS. 23:44.974 --> 23:45.839 align:start MIKE O'BRIEN, WILL THIS PROMPT 23:45.842 --> 23:49.476 align:start GREATER OVERSIGHT OF HOME 23:49.479 --> 23:50.443 align:start SCHOOLING? 23:50.446 --> 23:53.880 align:start >> MAYBE NOT HOME-SCHOOLING 23:53.883 --> 23:55.815 align:start INITIALLY, BUT I THINK IT WILL 23:55.818 --> 23:57.851 align:start PROMPT GREATER INSIGHT INTO 23:57.854 --> 24:01.121 align:start WHAT -- HOW WE DEFINE A STUDENT 24:01.124 --> 24:02.088 align:start DROPPING OUT, HOW WE DEFINE A 24:02.091 --> 24:03.389 align:start STUDENT TRANSITIONING TO HOME 24:03.392 --> 24:04.691 align:start SCHOOL. WE'RE CLEARLY NOT 24:04.694 --> 24:07.193 align:start SERVING THESE KIDS DROPPING OUT 24:07.196 --> 24:09.863 align:start WITH NO INTENT TO BE 24:09.866 --> 24:10.997 align:start HOME-SCHOOLED. THE MOM IN THE 24:11.000 --> 24:13.533 align:start START OF THIS ARTICLE SAID, HOW 24:13.536 --> 24:13.766 align:start AM I GOING TO HOME SCHOOL THIS 24:13.769 --> 24:15.702 align:start KID? 24:15.705 --> 24:16.936 align:start THIS IS A POOR FAMILY ON THE 24:16.939 --> 24:18.304 align:start SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANAPOLIS. I 24:18.307 --> 24:19.873 align:start HAD NO PLANS TO HOME SCHOOL, 24:19.876 --> 24:21.841 align:start WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 24:21.844 --> 24:22.142 align:start CLEARLY THAT NEEDS TO BE 24:22.145 --> 24:24.344 align:start UNCOVERED. 24:24.347 --> 24:25.745 align:start >> YEAH. HOW DEEP SHOULD THIS 24:25.748 --> 24:26.346 align:start KIND OF SHOULD ANY REFORM OUT OF 24:26.349 --> 24:27.947 align:start THIS GO? 24:27.950 --> 24:30.416 align:start >> WHEN YOU START WITH THIS, YOU 24:30.419 --> 24:31.484 align:start LOOK AT THE FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES 24:31.487 --> 24:33.153 align:start THAT ARE COOKING THE DATA TO 24:33.156 --> 24:34.921 align:start MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK BETTER SO 24:34.924 --> 24:37.557 align:start THEY KEEP GETTING STATE FUNDS, 24:37.560 --> 24:40.927 align:start IT'S NOT THE HOME-SCHOOLING AS 24:40.930 --> 24:41.161 align:start MUCH AS IT IS THESE FOUR-PROFIT 24:41.164 --> 24:41.728 align:start GROUPS. 24:41.731 --> 24:42.128 align:start >> THERE ARE MORE SCHOOLS 24:42.131 --> 24:45.265 align:start THAN -- 24:45.268 --> 24:46.699 align:start >> THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THE BULK OF 24:46.702 --> 24:48.034 align:start THEM WERE ALSO FOR-PROFIT 24:48.037 --> 24:50.236 align:start INSTITUTIONS, LIKE THE ONE THAT 24:50.239 --> 24:52.105 align:start WAS FEATURED IN THE STAR 24:52.108 --> 24:53.106 align:start ARTICLE, WAS THE ONE TAKEN OVER 24:53.109 --> 24:55.008 align:start FROM IPS BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS 24:55.011 --> 24:55.708 align:start WE'VE GOT TO GIVE THESE TO 24:55.711 --> 24:57.777 align:start FOR-PROFIT -- 24:57.780 --> 24:58.845 align:start >> AND THAT'S PART OF A LARGER 24:58.848 --> 25:01.514 align:start MOVEMENT IN TERMS OF MAYBE WE 25:01.517 --> 25:02.882 align:start NEED TO START TAKING A CLOSER 25:02.885 --> 25:03.216 align:start EYE ON CHARTER SCHOOLS. 25:03.219 --> 25:04.450 align:start >> MAYBE. 25:04.453 --> 25:06.753 align:start >> THAT POINT IS IMPORTANT. 25:06.756 --> 25:10.089 align:start YOU'VE GOT 61 SCHOOLS, TWO OF 25:10.092 --> 25:14.093 align:start THEM WERE RUN BY FOUR-PROFIT AND 25:14.096 --> 25:15.161 align:start TAKE-OVER SCHOOLS. DOE IS DOING 25:15.164 --> 25:17.697 align:start THE DATA ON THAT. 25:17.700 --> 25:19.599 align:start >> BUT THE OTHER 59 WERE PUBLIC 25:19.602 --> 25:20.700 align:start SCHOOLS THAT DO THEIR OWN 25:20.703 --> 25:21.601 align:start REPORTING, AND THE DEPARTMENT 25:21.604 --> 25:23.369 align:start DOESN'T LOOK AT THAT DATA. 25:23.372 --> 25:29.842 align:start >> NO, THEY JUST GET IT. 25:29.845 --> 25:34.247 align:start >> THEY JUST PLUG IT INTO THE 25:34.250 --> 25:35.014 align:start ACCOUNTABILITY 25:35.017 --> 25:35.381 align:start THAT'S INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW 25:35.384 --> 25:35.915 align:start FOR THIS WEEK. 25:35.918 --> 25:36.149 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN 25:36.152 --> 25:36.849 align:start DELANEY. 25:36.852 --> 25:37.417 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN. 25:37.420 --> 25:38.051 align:start JON SCHWANTES OF INDIANA 25:38.054 --> 25:38.685 align:start LAWMAKERS, AND NIKI 25:38.688 --> 25:38.952 align:start KELLY OF THE FORT WAYNE JOURNAL 25:38.955 --> 25:39.986 align:start GAZETTE. 25:39.989 --> 25:40.553 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE A PODCAST OF THIS 25:40.556 --> 25:41.187 align:start PROGRAM YOU CAN FIND IT AT 25:41.190 --> 25:41.821 align:start WFYI.ORG/IWIR OR STARTING MONDAY 25:41.824 --> 25:42.822 align:start YOU CAN STREAM IT OR GET IT ON 25:42.825 --> 25:44.891 align:start DEMAND FROM XFINITY AND ON THE 25:44.894 --> 25:46.459 align:start WFYI APP. 25:46.462 --> 25:47.694 align:start I'M BRANDON SMITH OF INDIANA 25:47.697 --> 25:49.229 align:start PUBLIC BROADCASTING. 25:49.232 --> 25:51.831 align:start JOIN US NEXT TIME BECAUSE A LOT 25:51.834 --> 25:52.098 align:start CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK. 25:52.101 --> 26:09.649 align:start ♪♪ 26:09.652 --> 26:11.517 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 26:11.520 --> 26:13.853 align:start >> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS 26:13.856 --> 26:15.855 align:start MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS 26:15.858 --> 26:17.724 align:start OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING 26:17.727 --> 26:21.160 align:start STATIONS, AND BY ICEMILLER, 26:21.163 --> 26:21.728 align:start BUILT ON A 100-PLUS YEAR 26:21.731 --> 26:23.997 align:start FOUNDATION OF LEGAL SERVICE. 26:24.000 --> 26:25.531 align:start ICEMILLER IS A FULL SERVICE LAW 26:25.534 --> 26:26.065 align:start FIRM COMMITTED TO HELPING 26:26.068 --> 26:28.468 align:start CLIENTS STAY AHEAD OF THE 26:28.471 --> 26:29.535 align:start CHANGING WORLD, WORKING TO 26:29.538 --> 26:30.303 align:start DEVELOP AN UNDERSTANDING OF EACH 26:30.306 --> 26:33.439 align:start CLIENT'S NEEDS TO HELP BUILD, 26:33.442 --> 26:33.840 align:start GROW AND PROTECT THEIR 26:33.843 --> 26:36.909 align:start INTERESTS. 26:36.912 --> 26:37.477 align:start MORE AT ICEMILLER.COM. 26:37.480 --> 26:39.879 align:start THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE 26:39.882 --> 26:40.513 align:start SOLELY THOSE OF THE PANELISTS. 26:40.516 --> 26:42.915 align:start INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS A WFYI 26:42.918 --> 26:43.650 align:start PRODUCTION IN ASSOCIATION WITH 26:43.653 --> 26:46.568 align:start INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING