DELEGATES THREATENED.
HOW TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE
CHALLENGING THE INDIANA
SELECTION PROCESS.
THE CIRCUS IS IN TOWN.
INDIANA NOW HAS CAMPAIGN
HEADQUARTERS FOR FIVE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES.
A BIG INCREASE IN EARLY VOTING,
AND A NEW TONE IN THE SENATE
RACE.
THAT, PLUS "CALL US HOOSIERS"
AND MORE ON "INDIANA WEEK IN
REVIEW" FOR THE WEEK ENDING
APRIL 15TH 2016
THIS WEEKS
INDIANA REPUBLICANS CHOSE 57
DELEGATES TO THE CLEVELAND
CONVENTION AND SOME OF THEM ARE
BEING THREATENED.
THE CONTROVERSY IS OVER WHAT
COULD HAPPEN IF THE GOP
NOMINATION FIGHT GOES TO A
SECOND BALLOT.
THE DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN
BELIEVES THERE IS A CONCERTED
EFFORT IN INDIANA TO SELECT
DELEGATES WHO SUPPORT OTHER
CANDIDATES.
A VOTE FOR TRUMP ON THE FIRST
BALLOT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM
MOST DELEGATES IF HE WINS THE
PRIMARY ELECTION.
BUT DELEGATES ARE FREE TO MAKE
UP THEIR OWN MINDS IF THE
NOMINATION RACE GOES TO A SECOND
BALLOT.
A POLITICO.COM HEADLINE
DECLARING TRUMP TROUNCED IN
INDIANA POINTS OUT HOW
RELATIVELY FEW OF THE 27
DISTRICT DELEGATES ARE TRUMP
SUPPORTERS.
ONCE IT WAS POSTED ONLINE, GOP
LEADERS INCLUDING 7TH DISTRICT
CHAIRMAN TOM JOHN BEGAN
RECEIVING THREATENING EMAILS.
THIS ONE SAYS "THINK BEFORE YOU
TAKE A STEP DOWN THE WRONG
PATH."
IT GOES ON TO SAY, "THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE FAITH IN
YOU, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A FUTURE
IN HIDING IS MORE APPEALING."
AND OVER THE WEEKEND I BEGAN
GETTING SEVERAL EMAILS THAT
REFERENCED MY FAMILY, REFERENCED
ATTRIBUTES THAT THEY'D CLEARLY
BEEN RESEARCHING ME AND THAT I
WAS GOING TO BE PUT OUT ON A
PUBLIC LIST AND THEY WERE
WATCHING ME.
I THINK IT'S A HORRIBLE THING
FOR SOMEBODY TO DO.
IF THEY'RE DOING IT IN FAVOR OF
ONE OF THE TWO SIDES, KNOCK IT
OFF.
THAT'S TRUMP INDIANA CHAIRMAN
REX EARLY.
IS THE ESTABLISHMENT SEEKING
TO DEFEAT TRUMP?
IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR
"INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW" PANEL.
DEMOCRAT ANN DELANEY.
REPUBLICAN MIKE MCDANIEL.
JON SCHWANTES, THE HOST OF
"INDIANA LAWMAKERS" AND
JOHN KETZENBERGER, PRESIDENT OF
THE INDIANA FISCAL POLICY
INSTITUTE.
I'M WISH-TV STATEHOUSE REPORTER
JIM SHELLA.
MIKE MCDANIEL, ARE THE TRUMP
SUPPORTERS OVERREACTING?
WELL, LET'S START WITH THE
FACT THAT BY RULE THE AT-LARGE
DELEGATES AND THE DISTRICT
DELEGATES HAVE TO VOTE FOR WHO
WINS THE DISTRICT AND THE
AT-LARGE LOOKS FOR WHO WINS THE
STATE.
THEY'RE BOUND.
THEY'RE BOUND.
THAT'S A GIVEN.
OF COURSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT
BALLOT YET SINCE WE'RE A HALF
MONTH OUT FROM THE PRIMARY SO
IT'S CRAZY TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
AS FAR AS THE AT-LARGE DELEGATES
THAT WERE ELECTED THIS WEEK,
LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A
PRETTY GOOD BALANCE, ALL THREE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE
REPRESENTATIVES ON THERE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE CRY IF THERE
HADN'T BEEN THE BALANCE FROM ONE
OF THE GROUPS THAT THEY'D BEEN
LOCKED OUT OF THAT PROCESS SO --
I'M ONE OF THE AT-LARGE
DELEGATES.
WHO ARE YOU SUPPORTING?
I WILL VOTE FOR THE ROUND OF
WHOEVER WINS INDIANA AND AFTER
THAT I'VE GOT A LIST OF
RESTAURANTS IN CLEVELAND I'D
LIKE TO GO TO -- SO -- I'M BEING
FACETIOUS.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S GOING AN
INTERESTING PROCESS BUT, YOU
KNOW, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO JUST
STEP BACK AND CHILL OUT A LITTLE
BIT BECAUSE THESE RULES HAVE
BEEN IN PLACE FOR A GOOD
WHILE --
SINCE LAST FALL.
IT'S A NEW SETUP.
RIGHT.
I THINK OCTOBER?
RIGHT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THESE ARE NEWS
TO PEOPLE THIS IS THE WAY IT'S
GOING TO WORK.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T AND IF
EVERYBODY WAS LOCKED IN ON EVERY
BALLOT AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE A
MAJORITY YOU'D NEVER GET
SOMEBODY NOMINATED SO YOU HAVE
TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY AND
THAT WILL PLAY OUT IN THE COURSE
OF THE CONVENTION.
THEY'RE NOT OVERREACTING.
TELL ME WHY.
THE PUNDITS SAY IF HE DOESN'T
WIN INDIANA THAT THE PATH TO
HAVING ENOUGH DELEGATES FOR A
FIRST-BALLOT VICTORY IS PROBABLY
NOT FEASIBLE AND THEN WHAT
HAPPENS?
AND, YEAH, THE RULES MAY HAVE
BEEN IN PLACE SINCE LAST
OCTOBER.
THE QUESTION IS DID THEY CHANGE
THEM.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS SUPPORT
FOR KASICH.
AT THE MOMENT KASICH DOESN'T
HAVE THE RIGHTER I BELIEVE IT'S
EIGHT STATES VICTORIES TO EVEN
BE CONSIDERED ON THE FIRST
BALLOT SO THEY CHANGED THAT
RULE.
RIGHT.
I THINK THERE'S REASON FOR
THEM TO BE CONCERNED, THERE'S NO
QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND HE COULD
WIN HANDILY IN INDIANA.
AND IF HE DOES THAT WILL
CERTAINLY AT LEAST KEEP HIM
ALIVE FOR THE FIRST-BALLOT
VICTORY.
SO TOM JOHN AND SOME OF THE
OTHER FOLKS WHO RECEIVED THESE
E-MAILS TURNED THEM OVER TO THE
OVERTIMES.
THE ISP * LOOKED AT THEM AND
SAID THEY'RE NOT CRIMINAL.
NO INVESTIGATION WILL TAKE
PLACE.
WHAT'S POLITICS COME TO?
IT'S BECOME A BARE-KNUCKLE
AFFAIR, THAT'S FOR SURE.
FIRST OF ALL, MICHAEL SIMON'S
RESTAURANT IN CLEVELAND IS WHERE
YOU WANT TO GO.
A FRIENDLY -- HELP YOU OUT,
THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SPEAK
WELL WHEN PERCEIVED THREATS AND
THEY MAY NOT BE CRIMINAL BUT
THEY SURE IMPLICATED --
MENTIONED YOU'RE GOING TO BE
ON A LIST.
WATCH YOUR BACK, RIGHT.
THE FACT THAT THAT KIND OF THING
WHERE THERE'S AS MIKE SAID, NO
BASIS FOR IT AT THIS POINT
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE AND
REALLY IT SHOWS SOMETHING ELSE I
THINK ABOUT THE CAMPAIGNS AND
THAT'S THAT THEY'RE NOT VERY
GOOD AT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF
THE POLITICAL PROCESS.
IF YOU'RE TUNED IN AND AWARE
THEN YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF
BUSINESS RATHER THAN TRYING TO
SCARE SOMEBODY INTO DOING WHAT
YOU WANT THEM TO DO.
INDIANA WILL BE INTERESTING.
I'LL BE CURIOUS HOW IT BREAKS
DOWN BY DISTRICT AND THEN WE'LL
SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
PART OF THE LESSON, JOHN, IS
THIS IS A PARTY AFFAIR, PEOPLE
ARE TALKING ABOUT I WANT MY VOTE
TO COUNT BUT IT'S THE PARTY WHO
DECIDES WHAT THE RULES ARE AND
WHAT THE VOTES MEAN.
THAT'S TRUE AND TRW IS
ANOTHER RESTAURANT IN CLEVELAND
YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO TO.
WE'LL GET TO THE MAP COORDINATES
LATER.
I'M NOT SURPRISED, THOUGH, THAT
THESE ALLEGATIONED ARE BEING
LEVELED.
I MEAN, WE CAN DEBATE, WE HAVE
TWO CLEAR CORNERS WHETHER THE
DECK IS STACKED OR NOT IN
TERMSFUL THE DELEGATE
STANDPOINT.
IF YOU'RE DONALD TRUMP YOU WANT
TO LEVEL THAT CHARGE BECAUSE,
AGAIN, THAT'S THE NOTION THAT
HAS MOTIVATED MANY OF HIS
VOTERS.
I'M NOT THE ESTABLISHMENT.
LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE
WAKE OF THE COLORADO VOTE, YOU
KNOW, RYANS APPRECIATE US ABOUT
TRUMP'S CRITICISM OF THE PARTY
STATUS OF SO I'M NOT SURPRISED
HE'S GOING THERE.
FROM A PURELY TACTICAL
STANDPOINT MOTIVATE YOUR BASE
AND GET THEM OUT.
THE IRONY OF THIS IS HE'S
COUCHED HIS SUPPORT OF WHOEVER
THE EVENTUAL NOMINEE IS IF IT'S
FAIR.
MAYBE HE CAN SAY IF ISN'T.
I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S
PRECONCEIVED, REX IS RIGHT TO
REPUDIATE THEM.
ON THE OTHER HAND YOU CAN SEE
WHY IT WOULD HAM.
HE'S MADE HIS WHOLE LIFE THROUGH
BEING A BULLY AND INTIMIDATION.
IT ISN'T SURPRISING HIS VOTERS
WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO HIM FOR
THAT REASON.
TWO THINGS, ONE, REX DID PUT
THESE THINGS DOWN WHO DID THIS
IMMEDIATELY WHICH I THINK WAS
IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO DO AND IT
WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR HIM TO
DO.
BUT SECOND, DOING THIS AND I SAW
SOME OF THESE E-MAILS AND THEY
CAME VERY CLOSE TO THE LINE OF
IF IT'S NOT REALLY CLOSE TO THE
LINE, BUT BY DOING THAT, THAT'S
NO WAY TO WIN PEOPLE OVER.
RIGHT.
I MEAN, I'VE KNOWN THESE
PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE TALKING
ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY
ARE USED TO, YOU KNOW, PLAYING
HARDBALL POLITICS.
ONLY 27 DELEGATES, BEEN
INVOLVED IN REPUBLICAN POLITICS
FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS ISN'T THE WAY TO WIN
THEM OVER.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
THE CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT
ARE CONCENTRATING ON NEW YORK
THIS WEEK.
BUT THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ALREADY
FOCUSING ON INDIANA AND WITH MAY
3RD PRIMARY FAST APPROACHING.
DONALD TRUMP HAS A CAMPAIGN
HEADQUARTERS IN CARMEL, OFFICES
IN EVANSVILLE AND FORT WAYNE.
THE TED CRUZ CAMPAIGN SET UP
SHOP ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THIS
TWO-STORY OFFICE BUILDING IN
LAWRENCE.
NO MEDIA WAS ALLOWED INSIDE BUT
WE CAN TELL YOU THAT PHONE BANKS
ARE SET UP AND STAFFERS ARE AT
WORK.
JOHN KASICH's HEADQUARTERS WAS
ESTABLISHED IN A SMALL SHOP IN A
FISHERS STRIP MALL.
EVEN BEFORE IT OPENED, KASICH
SUPPORTER BECKY MCNICHOLS WAS
ABLE TO PICK UP A YARD SIGN
THERE.
I THINK HE HAS THE MOST
EXPERIENCE.
HE'S NOT PLAYING THE BLAME GAME
AND HE ALSO IS ONE WHO I THINK
WILL PULL THE WHOLE PARTY
TOGETHER.
WE'RE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW.
ANN DELANEY, WHY ARE THE
REPUBLICANS ARRIVING A WEEK OR
MORE BEHIND HILLARY CLINTON AND
BERNIE SANDERS?
WELL, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN
DUKING IT OUT IN SO MANY
DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, IT'S NOT
SURPRISING THEY'RE ALL HERE AT
THE SAME TIME.
BUT THIS IS DO OR DIE FOR THEM.
I MEAN, THEY EITHER STOP TRUMP
IN INDIANA OR THEY PROBABLY
DON'T STOP TRUMP SO IT'S GOING
TO BE TOOTH AND NAIL ALL THE WAY
THROUGH MAY 3rd AND WE'LL SEE
WHAT HAPPENS.
HIS CANDIDACY AND THE INTEREST
HE'S GENERATING IN THIS IS GOING
TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE MARLIN
STUTZMAN.
IT'S ALSO GOING TO AFFECT OTHER
RACES DOWN BALLOT.
INTERESTING TO SEE.
TED CRUZ IS GOING TO COME TO
THE STATE GOP DINNER NEXT WEEK.
IT'S THE FIRST SCHEDULED
CANDIDATE APPEARANCE.
DO YOU SEE CRUZ PUTTING MORE
EMPHASIS HERE THAN TRUMP?
ABSOLUTELY, HE WOULD BE CRAZY
NOT TO.
ANN IS RIGHT, THE TIMING HAS NOW
BECOME A CRITICAL PART OF THE
STRETCH DRIVE OF THIS CAMPAIGN
PREVENTION SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE
ALL ARRIVING ALL OF A SUDDEN.
AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO
SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT BECAUSE
I'D BE STUNNED IF THEY DON'T ALL
SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE.
BECAUSE THIS IS PIVOTAL NOW.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET THERE
WITHOUT COMING TO INDIANA NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTESTED
PRIMARIES ON BOTH SIDES.
MY RESEARCH, MAYBE NOT THE BEST
RESEARCHER, BUT TELLS ME GOING
BACK TO 1964 TO FIND THAT
HAPPENING IN INDIANA.
GREAT, HUH?
YEAH, THIS IS --
GUFF YOU SOMETHING TO TALK
ABOUT FOR A WHOLE MONTH.
ALL OF US.
WE SAID THAT THIS CYCLE HAS
BEEN HISTORY-MAKING IN MANY
WAYS.
I GUESS THIS IS YET ANOTHER
EXAMPLE OF IT.
WHO WOULD HAVE -- YOU'D NEVER --
IF YOU WERE PLACING BETS A YEAR
AGO YOU'D NEVER SAY, HEY, PUT
SOME MONEY ON INDIANA TO BE A
REAL HOT TICKET.
AND IT'S THE ONLY STATE THAT HAS
A PRIMARY ON THAT DAY SO IT
DOESN'T HAVE TO SHARE THE
SPOTLIGHT, THE NATIONAL
SPOTLIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT A WEEK OR SO WHEN
PEOPLE -- THE CANDIDATES DON'T
HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I
NEED TO BE IN THIS STATE BUT
THEN I NEED TO DIVIDE MY TIME
HERE AND THEN I NEED TO GO HERE
IT'S GOING TO BE ALL INDIANA ALL
THE TIME FOR THAT PERIOD OF
TIME.
SO FOR ALL OF US WHO HAVE
COMPLAINED FOR YEARS ABOUT
INDIANA'S SPOT IN THE PECKING
ORDER OR ON THE CALENDAR AND HOW
BASICALLY IRRELEVANT IT MAY BE
FOR THE STATE, I GUESS, NOW IT'S
THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT
TIME, THINGS HAVE COME FULL
CIRCLE.
IT'S DIFFERENT, THOUGH, THAN
2008.
WELL, YEAH, IT IS.
THE WHOLE TENOR IS COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
COINCIDENCE, IT JUST HAPPENS TO
BE THE CASE THIS YEAR THAT THE
WAY THE RACES HAVE GONE AND THE
NATURE OF THOSE RACES HAVE MEANT
THAT INDIANA STILL HAS A ROLE TO
PLAY HERE.
BUT 2008 IT WAS VERY CLEARLY THE
HILLARY CLINTON VERSUS BARACK
OBAMA.
THEY WERE BOTH MORE RETAIL, YOU
KNOW, POLITICS.
WE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THE STUFF
THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH
THE DELEGATES AND THE PROCESS.
IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM
GOING AT IT AND WHEN THEY WERE
DONE IT WAS 51-49, CLOSE RACE.
IT WAS CLOSE.
AND THEY GOT HERE IN
MID-MARCH.
SO THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME
HERE.
RIGHT.
EARLY VOTING IN HAMILTON
COUNTY IS ALMOST TRIPLE WHAT IT
WAS AT THIS TIME FOUR YEARS AGO.
HERE IN MARION COUNTY IT'S
ALMOST DOUBLE.
IN HAMILTON COUNTY 75% OF THE
EARLY VOTERS ARE REPUBLICANS AND
THAT'S A SIGN THAT INTEREST IN
THE GOP PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION
BUT THERE ARE TWO SCHOOL
REFERENDUMS AND SOME LOCAL RACES
THAT ALSO CREATE INTEREST THERE.
PLUS, VOTERS JUST LIKE THE
CONVENIENCE OF EARLY VOTING.
GOING ON A TRIP AND WANTED TO
BE SURE TO VOTE.
I THINK IT'S AN ABSOLUTE
NECESSITY.
NOW MORE THAN EVER IT'S MY
JOB AS AN AMERICAN.
IT'S MY DUTY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I
GET IT DONE.
WHEN YOU HAVE VOTER TURNOUT
THAT'S A GOOD THING.
AND THAT'S HAMILTON COUNTY
ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR KATHY
RICHARDSON WHO ENCOURAGES EARLY
VOTING.
JOHN KETZENBERGER, SHOULD WE
EXPECT LONG LINES ON MAY 3RD?
WELL, I MEAN, THERE PROBABLY
IS GOING TO BE PRETTY HEAVY
TURNOUT.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A
SITUATION LIKE WE DID WITH --
WAS IT ARIZONA WHERE THEY HAD
THE VERY LONG LINES AND THEY HAD
THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF THE
REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF
PRECINCTS, I DON'T FORESEE THAT
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE EARLY VOTING
I DO THINK IS A BIT OF A
BAROMETER IN THE INTEREST IN THE
RACE AND THE LOCAL RACES, I
THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO
SEE HOW FAR DOWN-BALLOT PEOPLE
GO.
IF THEY'RE GOING FOR THE
PRESENTATION, GUBERNATORIAL OR
SENATE RACE OR GO ALL THE WAY
DOWN THE BALLOT AND VOTE FOR THE
LOCAL RACES AND THE REFERENDUM
DA.
IT WILL BE A BUSY DAY BUT NOT
OUTRAGEOUS.
BUT VOTER REGISTRATION'S UP,
EARLY VOTING'S UP, YOU'VE GOT TO
BELIEVE THERE'S A LOT OF
INTEREST IN THIS.
APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF
INTEREST IN THIS.
I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION IS
IT MOTIVATED BY A PASSION FOR A
CANDIDATE OR FEAR OF A
CANDIDATE.
TWO POTENTIALLY DRAMATIC KIND OF
THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW, THIS DEFIES
PREDICTION.
I -- IT -- EVEN THE -- THE --
THESE VARIOUS SORT OF -- THIS
AMALGAM THAT'S UNITED BEHIND,
SAY, DONALD TRUMP, MANY OF THEM
AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY FIRST-TIME
VOTERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE AN
UNKNOWN COMMODITY YOU CAN'T
REALLY SEE HOW THEY MAY VOTE
FURTHER DOWN THE TICKET, IT'S
JUST AN UNKNOWN AND I GUESS IF
THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN
CELEBRATE, I'VE SAID THIS
BEFORE, THAT IF REGISTRATION'S
UP AND PEOPLE GET OUT TO THE
POLLS, THAT'S -- NO MATTER HOW
YOU SLICE IT -- A GOOD THING.
FOR PUNDITS, CANDIDATES,
EVERYBODY, IT CREATES
UNCERTAINTY.
OH, ABSOLUTELY.
WHENEVER YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE WHO -- MANY OF WHICH
HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED BEFORE,
THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT
YOU'RE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT
HOW THEY'RE GOING TO
PARTICIPATE.
SO THAT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW FROM
THE STANDPOINT THAT YOU WORRY
ABOUT THOSE KIND OF FOLKS
SHOWING UP ON ELECTION DAY.
BUT IT'S ONE OF THESE WHERE
YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS
GOING.
ONE, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN
USED TO EARLY VOTING, MORE SO
THAN EVERYONE, THEY'RE DOING IT
MORE EACH ELECTION CYCLE.
THIS IS THE THIRD
PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
YES, IT SEEMS TO BE MORE
PEOPLE DOING IT.
YOU'VE GOT PRESENTATION PARTIES
IN BOLT PARTIES WHICH IS A
DRIVER, THEN A U.S. SENATE RACE,
IN HAMILTON COUNTY, THE
LEGISLATIVE RACES THRUST SCHOOL
REFERENDUMS, THERE'S A LOT OF
REASONS, I THINK IT'S GREAT, IT
SHOULD BE QUITE A NIGHT.
A LOT OF REPUBLICANS SHOWING
UP IN HAMILTON COUNTY, IT'S
DOUBLE HERE AND THEY'RE MOSTLY
DEMOCRATS.
IT'S GREAT, IT'S ENCOURAGING
PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING BUT
JUST THINK HOW MUCH MORE
PARTICIPATION WE HAD IF WE HAD
LAWS THAT ENCOURAGED VOTING
INSTEAD OF DISCOURAGING VOTING.
WE ARE VOTING.
NO, WE WERE 49th OUT OF 50
IN VOTER PARTICIPATION LAST
CYCLE.
49th.
TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK.
EACH WEEK WE POSE AN
UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLINE POLL
QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR
ICEMILLER E-MAIL AND TEXT
ALERTS.
THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
ARE YOU PLANNING TO VOTE IN THE
INDIANA PRIMARY?
YOUR CHOICES ARES
A. YES.
B. I'M VOTING EARLY.
C. NO.
LAST WEEK'S QUESTION:
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE
PERIODS FOR PENS ON SOCIAL
MEDIA.
3% SAID UNCOMFORTABLE.
MORE THAN 2000 TOOK PART.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART
IN THE POLL, GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR
AND LOOK FOR THE POLL.
THE GOP SENATE PRIMARY TOOK
ON A NEW TONE THIS WEEK.
TODD YOUNG SOUGHT TO CONTRAST
HIS RECORD WITH THAT OF MARLIN
STUTZMAN WITH THIS AD.
IS TRUST FOR U.S. SENATE, NOT
MARLIN STUTZMAN, HE'S BEEN A
CAREER POLITICIAN SINCE HE WAS
26, HE POCKETED NEARLY A MILLION
DOLLARS WITH THE SAME TAXPAYER
SUBSIDIES HE CLAIMS TO OPPOSE.
THAT'S A TOUGH AD.
STUTZMAN CAME BACK TODAY WITH AN
EVEN TOUGHER AD.
JON SCHWANTES, FIRST OF ALL, CAN
TODD YOUNG GET TO THE RIGHT OF
MARLIN STUTZMAN.
HE CAN TRY.
I MEAN, AND HE'S BEEN DESCRIBED
IN SOME OF THE SPOTS AS A ROCK
CONSERVATIVE.
THE C WORD, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE
DRIVER HERE, FORGET WHO'S
REPUBLICAN, IT'S WHO'S MORE
CONSERVATIVE.
WE TALKED A MOMENT AGO WITH A
LAST TIME OF FAMILIARITY WITH
SOME OF THE FIRST-TIME VOTERS
AND I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO WHERE
AT LEAST THESE TWO CAMPAIGNS
THINK THAT THE VOTERS ARE IN THE
PRIMARY AND THAT IS VERY
CONSERVATIVE -- WELL, IF YOU
PUT --
I THINK THAT'S RIGHT BUT
THEY'RE BOTH ENDORSED BY NRA AND
RIGHT TO LIFE SO THEY HAVE TO
FIND WAYS TO DIFFERENTIATE
THEMSELVES.
THAT'S RIGHT.
ON A POLICY BASIS, THEY ARE VERY
SIMILAR PEOPLE.
I THINK WHEN YOU PUT THE TWO
TOGETHER, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO
MOST PEOPLE THAT MARLIN STUTZMAN
RECORD OVER A PERIOD OF TIME HAS
BEEN FURTHER TO THE RIGHT THAN
YOUNG'S, AT LEAST
PERCEPTIONWISE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK JON'S
RIGHT AND I THINK IT REFLECTS
THEIR OWN POLLING.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY POLLING IN
THE PUBLIC BUT I'M GUESSING THAT
THEIR POLLING IS SHOWING THAT
THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR THAT AND
I'LL REALLY BE CURIOUS AFTER THE
ELECTION TO SEE WHERE THEY DID
WELL AND WHO ELSE DID WELL
AROUND THEM, FOR INSTANCE,
WHETHER TRUMP DID WELL AND THEN
DID STUTZMAN DO WELL AT THE SAME
TIME OR WHAT KIND OF TRENDS CAME
OUT OF THAT.
THE STUTZMAN AD GOES AFTER
YOUNG FOR BEING SUPPORTED BY
MITCH McCONNELL, THE SENATE
REPUBLICAN LEADER.
HE'S CLEARLY TRYING TO PORTRAY
HIM AS THE ESTABLISHMENT
CANDIDATE HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUSLY --
IT'S NOT JUST A RUN TO THE
RIGHT, IT'S LIKE A STAMPEDE TO
THE RIGHT FOR THE TEA PARTY.
AND THE IRONY OF THIS IS WHEN
YOUNG UNLEASHED THE FIRST SALVO,
IT MEANS HE'S RUNNING SCARED.
BECAUSE IF HE WERE SO FAR AHEAD
HE'S CERTAINLY SPENDING AN
INORDINATE AMOUNT OF MONEY ON
TELEVISION AND IF HE WERE
CLEARLY AHEAD HE COULD IGNORE
MARLIN STUTZMAN AND HE'S NOT
WHICH TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT
WHAT THEIR POLLING SHOWS AND HOW
MUCH WEIGHT THE TEA PARTY
ACTUALLY WIELDS IN THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
BACK TO WHAT I SAID BEFORE
THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY OUT
THERE.
NO QUESTION.
HER STATEMENT IS REPUBLICANS
YOUNG IS MORE DANGEROUS TO RUN
GETS.
THEY MUCH RATHER RUN GETS
STUTZMAN.
WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE I
DON'T THINK HE'S TRYING TO GET
TO THE RIGHT OF STUTZMAN BUT I
DO THINK HE HAS TO MAKE SURE
THAT HE'S A CONSERVATIVE ALSO.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE KIND
OF SPOTS THAT THEY HAVE.
WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IN THIS
RACE, I THINK IT IS A QUESTION,
WHEN THE PRIMARY ROLLS AROUND,
ABOUT HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE
FACT THAT ONE OF THESE GENTLEMEN
WILL WORK WITH THE LEADERSHIP
AND ONE WON'T.
AND IS THAT THE REAL UNDERLYING
QUESTION HERE ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT PEOPLE WANT THAT LEADERSHIP
TO CHANGE AT THE TOP OR SHOULD
WE KEEP WHAT WE HAVE AND WORK
WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE.
AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WITH
THE AINGE OTHER THAT SEEMS TO BE
OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT
PLAYS OUT.
I THINK YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE
LEADERSHIP.
FIRST QUARTER FUND-RAISING
NUMBERS ARE IN FOR THE RACE FOR
GOVERNOR.
JOHN GREGG OUTRAISED MIKE PENCE.
ANN DeLANEY, WHAT DOES THAT
TELL YOU?
I THINK THAT'S PHENOMENAL.
YOU HAVE A NONINCUMBENT
OUTRAISING AN INCUMBENT GOVERNOR
AND BY THE BAT OF THE 1.5 MIKE
PENCE RAISED 500,000 CAME FROM
THE GOVERNOR HE IS ASSOCIATION
SO THE SUPPORT FOR HIM IN
INDIANA IS NONEXISTENT AND I
THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY
ENCOURAGING FOR JOHN GREGG AND
THE DEMOCRATS.
I DON'T THINK A MILLION
DOLLARS IS NONEXISTENT BUT IT
DOES SUGGEST --
IT IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT IS
FOR NONINCUMBENTS.
REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT BEING
OUTRAISED IS A LITTLE LIKE THE
GENERALS BEING AHEAD OF THE
GLOBETROTTERS.
ONE QUARTER.
MENACE HAS 7.6 MILLION AND
JOHN GREGG HAS 5 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOTH GOING
TO HAVE THE MONEY THEY NEED,
BELIEVE ME, BY THE TIME ELECTION
DAY ROLLS AROUND PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO GET SICK OF BOTH OF
THESE PEOPLE ALONG WITH
EVERYBODY ELSE WHO IS GOING TO
CLUTTER YOUR AIRWAYS WITH
INFORMATION SO MONEY IS NOT
GOING TO BE A PROBLEM ON EITHER
SIDE AND NORTH COAST THOUGHT IT
WAS ESPECIALLY FOR JOHN THIS
TIME VERSUS LAST TIME.
LAST TIME IT WAS THE SENATE
RATE.
THIS TIME THEY'RE GIVING HIM ON
THE D SIDE, SO THAT'S A BIG
DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WE HAD THE
LAST TIME AROUND.
YEAH, BUT JOHN GREGG'S A
BETTER CANDIDATE THIS TIME.
THAN HE WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.
I -- I GUESS --
BECAUSE HE HASN'T SAID
ANYTHING?
THAT COULD BE.
THAT'S MY POINT.
I'M JUST COMPARING HIM
AGAINST HIM FOUR YEARS AGO.
EVEN THEN YOU HAVE A
DIFFERENT MEASURING STICK.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO IS
MORE ATTUNED TO AND MORE ADEPT
AT LINING THE COFFERS TO WAGE
THE WAR HE'S A BETTER CANDIDATE
IF YOU PAIR HIM WITH FOUR YEARS
AGO.
CLOSE RACE.
IT'S STACKING UP SO.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MONEY
CAN'T BUY IS ENERGY.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF
THE ENERGY OF THOSE WHO CAN
SUPPORT JOHN GREGG CAN MAINTAIN
ITSELF AND THE ENERGY OF THOSE
WHO WOULD SUPPORT MIKE PENCE
WHICH HAS BEEN RELIABLE IN THE
PAST REMAINS SO.
OR THE ENERGY TO OPPOSE MIKE
PENCE WHICH IS PALPABLE OUT
THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IT HAS
TO SUSTAIN AND GO TO THE POLLS,
ANN.
I THINK THE TOP OF THE TICKET
WILL BE A MAJOR FACTOR ON BOTH
SIDES
FINALLY, DAN COATS AND JOE
DONNELLY WANT THE PEOPLE IN THE
STATE TO OFFICIALLY BE KNOWN AS
"HOOSIERS."
RIGHT NOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
PUBLISHING OFFICE USES THE
PHRASE "INDIANAN" TO DESCRIBE
SOMEONE FROM INDIANA.
THE TWO U.S.
SENATORS SENT A LETTER THIS WEEK
ASKING THE BOARD TO CHANGE THE
TERM TO "HOOSIERS."
THE PUBLISHING OFFICE SETS THE
RULES AND STANDARDS FOR PRODUCTS
PRINTED OR PUBLISHED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
MIKE MCDANIEL, WHAT DOES THAT
TELL YOU ABOUT GOVERNMENT
BUREAUCRACY?
WELL, SAME THING I'VE BEEN
SAYING MY ENTIRE POLITICAL LIFE,
YOU KNOW, IT'S CRAZY.
I'M DELIGHTED TO SEE THE
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR THIS
PARTICULAR CHANGE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE GOING TO SEE THE
MOVIE "INDIANANS" OR THE IU
SURIN' INDIANANS.
WE'RE HOOSIERS, WAKE UP FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
I WONDER IF THEY CHECKED
MITCH DANIELS AND THE PEOPLE AT
PURDUE ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL BEING
CALLED HOOSIERS.
I WOULD IMAGINE HE LIKES
BEING CALLED THE HOOSIERS.
WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE
ALUMS.
PURDUE HAD A FIELD DAY AT THE
EXPENSE OF IU WHEN IT WAS SHOWN
ON SOCIAL MEDIA A SIGN FROM IU
TALKING ABOUT HOOSIERS AND IT
WAS MISSPELLED.
MUST HAVE BEEN DONE BY
SOMEBODY AT PURDUE.
WE'RE HOOSIERS, OK, HOOSIERS.
THAT'S "INDIANA WEEK IN
REVIEW" FOR THIS WEEK.
OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT ANN
DELANEY.
REPUBLICAN MIKE MCDANIEL.
JON SCHWANTES OF "INDIANA
LAWMAKERS" AND JOHN
KETZENBERGER OF THE INDIANA
FISCAL POLICY INSTITUTE.
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