WEBVTT 00:00.050 --> 00:03.050 align:start >> THE GOVERNOR WON'T NEGOTIATE 00:03.050 --> 00:04.130 align:start IN PUBLIC. 00:04.130 --> 00:05.060 align:start WILL THAT HURT HIS TAX REFORM 00:06.150 --> 00:09.150 align:start PLAN? 00:09.150 --> 00:10.150 align:start >> A VOTE FOR THE MASS TRANSIT 00:10.150 --> 00:11.070 align:start BILL, NEW DRONE REGULATIONS 00:11.070 --> 00:12.130 align:start ADVANCE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, 00:12.130 --> 00:13.120 align:start AND SCOTT PELATH SUGGESTS 00:13.120 --> 00:14.080 align:start CALLING OFF THE REST OF THE 00:14.080 --> 00:16.190 align:start SESSION. 00:16.190 --> 00:17.260 align:start >> THAT, PLUS A WAY TO IMPROVE 00:17.260 --> 00:19.180 align:start GIRL SCOUT COOKIES AND MORE ON 00:19.180 --> 00:21.230 align:start "INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW" FOR THE 01:26.170 --> 01:28.170 align:start >> THIS WEEK. 01:28.170 --> 01:29.090 align:start >> IT'S HALFTIME N THE GENERAL 01:29.090 --> 01:30.230 align:start ASSEMBLY AND GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE 01:30.230 --> 01:31.150 align:start SAYS HE WON'T NEGOTIATE HIS PLAN 01:31.150 --> 01:32.140 align:start FOR CORPORATE TAX REFORM IN 01:32.140 --> 01:35.110 align:start PUBLIC. 01:35.110 --> 01:36.290 align:start THE GOVERNOR MET WITH REPORTERS 01:36.290 --> 01:38.110 align:start IN HIS STATEHOUSE OFFICE TO 01:38.110 --> 01:39.220 align:start EXPRESS CONFIDENCE THAT 01:39.220 --> 01:41.080 align:start LAWMAKERS WILL APPROVE AT LEAST 01:41.080 --> 01:43.020 align:start PART OF HIS PLAN TO ELIMINATE A 01:43.020 --> 01:44.280 align:start TAX ON BUSINESS EQUIPMENT. 01:44.280 --> 01:46.070 align:start THE MONEY FROM THAT 01:46.070 --> 01:47.250 align:start BILLION-DOLLAR TAX GOES TO LOCAL 01:47.250 --> 01:48.280 align:start GOVERNMENTS AND NO REPLACEMENT 01:48.280 --> 01:50.270 align:start REVENUE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. 01:51.090 --> 01:54.090 align:start MAYORS, INCLUDING GREG BALLARD, 01:54.090 --> 01:55.000 align:start ARE CONCERNED, BUT PENCEESAYS 01:55.000 --> 01:57.260 align:start THEY WON'T BE "UNDULY HARMED." 01:57.260 --> 01:59.100 align:start >> I KNOW YOU ALL WANT ME TO 01:59.100 --> 02:00.160 align:start TALK ABOUT DETAIL. 02:00.160 --> 02:01.130 align:start I KNOW THAT. 02:04.150 --> 02:07.150 align:start OK. 02:07.150 --> 02:08.190 align:start BUT WE'RE INVOLVED IN 02:08.230 --> 02:11.230 align:start DISCUSSION, IN NEGOTIATIONS. 02:11.230 --> 02:13.010 align:start THERE WILL BE COMPROMISE AND WE 02:13.010 --> 02:14.230 align:start ARE LISTENING NOT JUST TO 02:14.230 --> 02:15.200 align:start MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 02:15.200 --> 02:16.250 align:start BUT WE ARE LISTENING TO OUR 02:17.110 --> 02:20.110 align:start LOCAL MAYORS." 02:20.110 --> 02:21.070 align:start >> WHERE WILL THE REPLACEMENT 02:21.070 --> 02:22.080 align:start MONEY COME FROM? 02:22.080 --> 02:23.270 align:start IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR 02:23.270 --> 02:25.060 align:start "INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW" PANEL. 02:25.060 --> 02:27.080 align:start DEMOCRAT DAN PARKER. 02:27.080 --> 02:29.140 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE MCDANIEL. 02:29.140 --> 02:30.150 align:start JON SCHWANTES, THE HOST OF 02:30.150 --> 02:31.090 align:start "INDIANA LAWMAKERS" AND 02:31.090 --> 02:32.150 align:start JOHN KETZENBERGER, PRESIDENT OF 02:33.250 --> 02:36.250 align:start THE INDIANA FISCAL POLICY 02:36.250 --> 02:37.150 align:start INSTITUTE. 02:37.150 --> 02:38.100 align:start >> DAN PARKER, THE GOVERNOR SAYS 02:38.260 --> 02:41.260 align:start LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WON'T BE 02:41.260 --> 02:43.030 align:start "UNDULY HARMED." 02:43.030 --> 02:45.110 align:start HOW MUCH HARM DO YOU THINK THAT 02:46.010 --> 02:49.010 align:start POSITION ALLOWS? 02:49.010 --> 02:50.150 align:start >> HOPELEY NOT TOO MUCH. 02:50.150 --> 02:51.160 align:start I MEAN, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE 02:51.160 --> 02:53.010 align:start IS HE'S GOVERNING BY TALKING 02:53.010 --> 02:54.070 align:start POINTS INSTEAD OF DETAILS. 02:54.070 --> 02:56.090 align:start YOU JUST HAD THE CLIP THERE. 02:56.090 --> 02:57.070 align:start YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT 02:57.100 --> 03:00.120 align:start A GOOD WAY TO DO THIS. 03:00.120 --> 03:01.240 align:start SOME PEOPLE ON THIS PANEL HAVE 03:01.240 --> 03:03.270 align:start BEEN AROUND WHEN WE'VE DONE TAX 03:03.270 --> 03:04.270 align:start RESTRUCTURING BEFORE. 03:04.270 --> 03:07.000 align:start IT'S USUALLY BIPARTISAN. 03:07.000 --> 03:08.210 align:start THERE'S USUALLY A LOT OF DETAILS 03:08.210 --> 03:10.210 align:start ON THE TABLE FROM THE BEGINNING. 03:10.210 --> 03:11.120 align:start THERE'S BUYIN. 03:11.120 --> 03:13.090 align:start AND THE GOVERNOR GOESSOUT ON THE 03:13.090 --> 03:14.030 align:start ROAD SELLING IT. 03:14.030 --> 03:16.020 align:start AND HE'S NOT DOING ANY OF THIS. 03:16.020 --> 03:17.180 align:start I MEAN, HE CAN'T EVEN GET 03:17.180 --> 03:20.150 align:start AGREEMENT FROM HIS OWN PARTY LET 03:20.150 --> 03:21.130 align:start ALONE BIPARTISAN CONSENSUS. 03:21.130 --> 03:24.050 align:start AND THE PROBBEM IS, IS THAT IT 03:24.050 --> 03:25.180 align:start JUST DOESN'T ADD UP AND I THINK 03:25.180 --> 03:27.020 align:start THE REPORT FROM JON'S 03:27.020 --> 03:28.200 align:start ORGANIZATION HAS MADE IT EVEN 03:28.200 --> 03:30.140 align:start WORSE BECAUSE NOW THERE'S NO 03:30.140 --> 03:32.040 align:start ECONOMIC SENSE IN DOING THIS SO, 03:32.040 --> 03:32.290 align:start YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE 03:32.290 --> 03:33.290 align:start SITTING HERE GOONG, YOU KNOW, 03:33.290 --> 03:35.170 align:start WHY DO WE HAVE TO HOLD THE BAG 03:35.170 --> 03:38.120 align:start FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE 03:38.120 --> 03:38.210 align:start SENSE? 03:38.210 --> 03:40.080 align:start >> HE SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT TO 03:41.050 --> 03:44.050 align:start PROVIDE DETAILS, BUT HOW DO YOU 03:44.050 --> 03:45.170 align:start DO ONE-HALF OF THIS? 03:45.170 --> 03:47.200 align:start YOU REDUCE TAXES ON BUSINESS 03:47.200 --> 03:49.050 align:start AND -- AND THEN DON'T DO THE 03:49.050 --> 03:50.290 align:start OTHER HALF AND EXPLAIN WHERE THE 03:50.290 --> 03:52.030 align:start REPLACEMENT MONEY'S GOING TO 03:52.030 --> 03:53.110 align:start COME FROM BECAUSE HE KEEPS 03:53.110 --> 03:55.130 align:start SAYING THIS IS NOT A TAX CUT, 03:55.130 --> 03:56.150 align:start IT'S TAX REFORM. 03:56.150 --> 03:58.100 align:start >> FIRST OF ALL, THE IDEA OF 03:58.100 --> 03:59.250 align:start ELIMINATION COMPLETELY WOULD BE 03:59.250 --> 04:00.270 align:start A BILLION DOLLARS-PLUS. 04:00.270 --> 04:01.100 align:start >> RIGHT. 04:01.100 --> 04:02.090 align:start >> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 04:02.090 --> 04:03.050 align:start >> NOT IMMEDIATTLY. 04:03.050 --> 04:04.130 align:start >> IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, 04:04.130 --> 04:05.280 align:start IT'SSNOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS 04:05.280 --> 04:06.080 align:start SESSION. 04:06.080 --> 04:08.060 align:start >> WHAT WOULD HE PROPOSE? 04:08.060 --> 04:09.210 align:start >> WHAT HE SAID WAS THERE ARE 04:09.210 --> 04:10.270 align:start BILLS MOVING IN BOTH THE HOUSE 04:11.270 --> 04:14.270 align:start WOULD REDUCE -- TAKE 70% OF 04:14.270 --> 04:17.180 align:start THOSEEWHO PAY THE TAX OFF THE 04:17.180 --> 04:20.120 align:start TABLE AND DO THAT FOR A LOT LESS 04:20.120 --> 04:21.190 align:start THAN THE BILLION DOLLARS. 04:21.190 --> 04:22.010 align:start ACTUALLY -- 04:22.010 --> 04:23.000 align:start >> HE PROPOSED GETTING RID OF 04:23.000 --> 04:25.110 align:start THE WHOLE THING. 04:25.110 --> 04:26.150 align:start >> HE'S SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS. 04:26.150 --> 04:28.050 align:start WANTED TO START THE PROCESS. 04:28.050 --> 04:29.020 align:start >> THAT'S WHAT HE SAID WHEN HE 04:29.020 --> 04:31.110 align:start BROUGHT IT UP AT THE LEGISLATIVE 04:31.110 --> 04:32.140 align:start CONFERENCE WHEN HE ANNOUNCED 04:32.140 --> 04:33.170 align:start THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. 04:33.170 --> 04:35.050 align:start THE BILL IN THE SENATE THAT'S 04:35.050 --> 04:36.140 align:start MOVING, THERE'S A BILL IN THE 04:36.140 --> 04:38.000 align:start HOUSE THAT'S MOVING THAT 04:38.000 --> 04:38.200 align:start WOULD -- 04:38.200 --> 04:41.020 align:start >> HEARING ON MONDAY. 04:41.020 --> 04:41.290 align:start >> AND THERE'S A HEARING ON 04:41.290 --> 04:42.230 align:start MONDAY ON THAT. 04:42.230 --> 04:44.290 align:start SO HE'S GOT TWO PIECES OF THIS 04:44.290 --> 04:45.200 align:start BOTH MOVING AT THE SAME TIME. 04:45.200 --> 04:48.200 align:start I DO THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE 04:48.200 --> 04:50.070 align:start SOME FORM OF BUSINESS PEESONAL 04:50.070 --> 04:51.230 align:start PROPERTY TAX RELIEF COME OUT OF 04:51.230 --> 04:52.200 align:start THIS SESSION. 04:52.200 --> 04:54.200 align:start >> WITH REPLACEMENT REVENUE? 04:54.200 --> 04:55.160 align:start >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOW 04:55.160 --> 04:56.200 align:start THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, OR IF 04:56.200 --> 04:58.140 align:start THEE DO THE PART THAT'S IN THE 04:58.140 --> 05:00.180 align:start SENATE BILL 1 WHICH WOULD 05:00.180 --> 05:03.060 align:start ELIMINATE IS FOR 71% OF THE 05:03.060 --> 05:05.000 align:start BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES 05:05.000 --> 05:06.220 align:start WITH $25,000 OR LESS EQUIPMENT, 05:06.220 --> 05:08.160 align:start YOU COULD DO IT AND THAT'S NOT 05:08.160 --> 05:09.220 align:start VERY EXPENSIVE. 05:09.220 --> 05:12.000 align:start TO SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, FOR 05:12.000 --> 05:13.240 align:start INSTANCE, THAT'S AS MUCH AS 05:13.240 --> 05:14.220 align:start MAYBE $16,000. 05:14.220 --> 05:15.040 align:start >> YEAH. 05:15.040 --> 05:16.000 align:start >> NOW, IF YOU START TALKING 05:16.000 --> 05:17.270 align:start ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS, IT IS A 05:17.270 --> 05:19.120 align:start MAJOR HIT TO GOVERNMENT, THAT'S 05:19.120 --> 05:20.230 align:start WHY THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 05:20.230 --> 05:22.240 align:start BUT HE'S GOING TO GET SOME OF 05:22.240 --> 05:24.000 align:start THIS, HE'S GOING TO GET A PIECE 05:24.000 --> 05:25.150 align:start OF THIS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE 05:25.150 --> 05:27.030 align:start TRYING TO NEGOTIATE RIGHT NOW. 05:27.030 --> 05:28.180 align:start THEY'RE TRYING TO GET WITH BOTH 05:28.180 --> 05:29.290 align:start THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND 05:29.290 --> 05:31.080 align:start COME UP WITH SOME HYBRID THAT 05:31.080 --> 05:32.200 align:start MAKES SENSE JUST AS THEY DID 05:32.200 --> 05:33.050 align:start LAST YEAR. 05:33.050 --> 05:35.090 align:start THEY GOT A PIECE OF WHAT THEY 05:35.090 --> 05:36.240 align:start WANTED WITH THE INCOME TAX LAST 05:36.240 --> 05:37.230 align:start YEAR. 05:37.230 --> 05:39.140 align:start >> JON, DO YOU THINK, IS WHAT -- 05:39.140 --> 05:41.200 align:start WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT -- 05:41.200 --> 05:43.140 align:start THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE CUTS 05:43.140 --> 05:45.140 align:start AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE 05:45.140 --> 05:46.110 align:start REDUCTIONS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT 05:46.110 --> 05:48.020 align:start WITH NO REPLACEMENT BUT IT WON'T 05:48.270 --> 05:51.270 align:start BE A BIG REDUCTION? 05:52.080 --> 05:55.080 align:start >> I THINK A LOT OF MAYORS ARE 05:55.080 --> 05:57.020 align:start CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS FITS 05:57.110 --> 06:00.130 align:start INTO A BROADER PATTERN, ONE THAT 06:00.150 --> 06:03.150 align:start INTO THE PAST THAN THE START OF 06:03.150 --> 06:04.270 align:start THE PENCE ADMINISTRATION. 06:04.270 --> 06:07.210 align:start YOU'RE LOOKING AT BACK TO 2008, 06:07.210 --> 06:09.070 align:start WITH THE PROPERTY TAX CAPS THAT 06:09.070 --> 06:11.020 align:start WERE ENSHRINED TWO YEARS LATER 06:11.020 --> 06:12.190 align:start IN THE INDIANA CONSTITUTION 06:12.190 --> 06:14.100 align:start WHICH LIMITS, TO A LARGE EXTENT, 06:14.100 --> 06:16.130 align:start THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE, PROPERTY 06:16.130 --> 06:17.210 align:start TAX REVENUE, THAT LOCAL 06:17.210 --> 06:19.210 align:start GOVERNMENTS CAN HAVE. 06:19.210 --> 06:20.250 align:start THEY'RE ALREADY REELING FROM 06:20.250 --> 06:21.090 align:start THAT. 06:21.090 --> 06:23.030 align:start NOW THIS. 06:23.030 --> 06:24.240 align:start YOU LOOK AT -- I THINK 06:24.240 --> 06:26.060 align:start THEY'RE -- THE FRUSTRATION THAT 06:26.060 --> 06:27.230 align:start MAYORS FEEL GENERALLY IS CUT AT 06:27.230 --> 06:29.030 align:start THE STATE LEVEL, OR AT LEAST 06:29.030 --> 06:31.030 align:start WASH THEIR HANDS OF THE NOTION 06:31.030 --> 06:33.210 align:start OF BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR A TAX, 06:33.210 --> 06:36.120 align:start PUSH IT DOWN THE PIPELINE TO 06:36.120 --> 06:38.000 align:start LOCALS, AND I GUESS IF YOU'RE IN 06:38.000 --> 06:39.100 align:start STATE GOVERNMENT, THAT THERE'S 06:39.100 --> 06:41.150 align:start SOME ATTRACTIVENESS TO THAT -- 06:42.000 --> 06:45.000 align:start >> THAT'S WHY THE -- SAY THEY'VE 06:45.210 --> 06:48.210 align:start NEVER SEEN MAYORS UNITED IN -- 06:48.210 --> 06:49.210 align:start >> REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS 06:49.210 --> 06:50.010 align:start ALIKE. 06:50.010 --> 06:51.140 align:start ALSO A FEW OF THE SUGGESTIONS 06:51.140 --> 06:53.140 align:start FOR REPLACEMENT FUNDS HAVE THEIR 06:53.140 --> 06:54.170 align:start OWN AGGAGE. 06:54.170 --> 06:56.190 align:start 50% CUT, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE 06:56.190 --> 06:57.290 align:start RESEARCH AND DEVELOPPENT TAX 06:57.290 --> 06:59.080 align:start CREDIT WHICH WE SPEND A LOT OF 06:59.080 --> 07:00.250 align:start TIME TALKING ABOUT HOW INDIANA 07:00.250 --> 07:02.160 align:start WANTS TO POSITION ITSELF TO 07:02.160 --> 07:04.160 align:start OTHER COMPANIES, JOB PROVIDERS 07:04.160 --> 07:05.130 align:start OUTSIDE THE STATE. 07:05.130 --> 07:06.160 align:start CUTTING YOUR RESEARCH AND 07:06.160 --> 07:07.190 align:start DEVELOPMENT TAX MAY NOT BE THE 07:07.190 --> 07:08.130 align:start RIGHT MESSAGE. 07:08.130 --> 07:09.150 align:start >> LET'S GET TO JOHN BECAUSE 07:09.150 --> 07:11.130 align:start YOUR ORGANIZATION, THE INDIANA 07:11.130 --> 07:12.290 align:start FISCAL POLICY INSTITUTE, ISSUED 07:12.290 --> 07:14.190 align:start A REPORT THIS WEEK, AMONG OTHER 07:14.190 --> 07:16.240 align:start THINGS, IT SAID THAT THE 07:16.240 --> 07:18.150 align:start ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS OF 07:18.150 --> 07:20.000 align:start ELIMINATING THE BUSINESS 07:20.000 --> 07:21.100 align:start PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX ARE NOT 07:21.100 --> 07:23.020 align:start NECESSARILY GREAT. 07:23.020 --> 07:24.120 align:start >> YEAH, I THINK WHAT YOU LOOK 07:24.210 --> 07:27.210 align:start AT, AND I -- I'M -- NOT TO TAKE 07:27.210 --> 07:29.050 align:start EXCEPTION TO DAN BUT I THINK HE 07:29.050 --> 07:31.130 align:start MIGHT HAVE OVERPLAYED IT JUST A 07:31.130 --> 07:31.270 align:start BIT. 07:31.270 --> 07:32.150 align:start >> I'M SUPPOSED TO. 07:32.150 --> 07:33.180 align:start >> AND YOU DID IT WELL. 07:33.180 --> 07:35.270 align:start WE LOOKED AT THE RESEARCH THAT 07:35.270 --> 07:37.090 align:start INDICATES THAT ON A REGIONAL 07:37.090 --> 07:39.030 align:start BASIS, IF YOU'RE GOING FROM ONE 07:39.030 --> 07:41.200 align:start REGION TO ANOTHER, THERE IS NOT 07:41.200 --> 07:43.050 align:start MUCH EFFECT FROM THE BUSINESS 07:43.050 --> 07:44.090 align:start PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. 07:44.090 --> 07:46.180 align:start IT'S MUCH CLOSER TO HOME THAT 07:46.180 --> 07:48.090 align:start THAT EFFECT IS GREATER. 07:48.090 --> 07:48.200 align:start NOW~-- 07:48.200 --> 07:49.110 align:start >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 07:49.110 --> 07:51.150 align:start COMPANIES MOVING FROM ONE -- 07:51.150 --> 07:51.280 align:start >> RIGHT. 07:51.280 --> 07:53.230 align:start >> IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FROM 07:53.230 --> 07:56.140 align:start MINNESOTA OR OHIO TO INDIANA IT 07:56.140 --> 07:57.090 align:start DOESN'T MAKE A HIJACK 07:57.090 --> 07:57.210 align:start DIFFERENCE. 07:58.140 --> 08:01.160 align:start >> I WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR, MIKE. 08:01.160 --> 08:03.010 align:start >> THE RESEARCH DOESN'T SUGGESTS 08:03.010 --> 08:04.220 align:start THAT THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE 08:04.220 --> 08:06.190 align:start AT ALL. 08:06.190 --> 08:07.190 align:start RESEARCH SUGGESTS WHEN YOU COME 08:07.190 --> 08:10.010 align:start FROM ONE STATE OR RUN REGION TO 08:10.010 --> 08:11.200 align:start ANOTHERRING IT PLAY A BIGGER 08:11.200 --> 08:11.290 align:start ROLE. 08:11.290 --> 08:13.040 align:start IT'S A BIGGER ROLE WHEN YOU'RE 08:13.040 --> 08:14.100 align:start CLOSE WITHIN THAT REGION. 08:14.100 --> 08:15.220 align:start OHIO TO INDIANA OR FROM COUNTY 08:15.220 --> 08:16.100 align:start TO COUNTY. 08:16.100 --> 08:17.190 align:start AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO BE 08:17.190 --> 08:19.190 align:start CAREFUL WITH THIS CONOMIC 08:19.190 --> 08:22.070 align:start IMPACT BBCAUSE IT'S NOT 08:22.070 --> 08:22.190 align:start CONCLUSIVE. 08:22.190 --> 08:24.120 align:start AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS GREAT 08:25.190 --> 08:28.190 align:start AS IT'S BEEN EXPRESSED SO FAR. 08:28.190 --> 08:30.160 align:start >> AND IT SAID IT'S A TALL 08:30.160 --> 08:30.260 align:start ORDER. 08:30.260 --> 08:31.160 align:start >> WELL, THIS IS VERY 08:31.160 --> 08:32.160 align:start COMPLICATED AS WE CAN SEE FROM 08:32.160 --> 08:33.240 align:start THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD SO FAR 08:33.240 --> 08:36.030 align:start AND THE CAPS HAVE REALLY MADE IT 08:36.030 --> 08:37.090 align:start DIFFICULT BECAUSE -- 08:37.090 --> 08:38.070 align:start >> THE PROPERTY TAX CAPS. 08:38.070 --> 08:38.200 align:start >> RIGHT. 08:38.200 --> 08:40.000 align:start THIS IS THE LAST OF FIVE 08:40.000 --> 08:41.030 align:start PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES THAT 08:41.030 --> 08:43.150 align:start INDIANA USED TO HAVE. 08:43.150 --> 08:45.090 align:start 40 YEARS AGO WE STARTED 08:45.090 --> 08:46.210 align:start ELIMINATING THESE, THE LAST ONE 08:46.210 --> 08:48.250 align:start WE ELIMINATED WAS THE INVENTORY 08:48.250 --> 08:49.030 align:start TAX. 08:49.030 --> 08:51.150 align:start WE DIDN'T HAVE CAMS AT THAT TIME 08:51.150 --> 08:52.240 align:start ON PROPERTY TAX SO IT WAS EASIER 08:52.240 --> 08:54.000 align:start TO FIND REPLACEMENT REVENUE. 08:54.000 --> 08:55.140 align:start NOW YOU HAVE THE TAX, NOW IT'S 08:55.140 --> 08:57.180 align:start HARDER TO FIND AND IT'S A MUCH 08:57.180 --> 08:58.260 align:start MORE COMPLICATED DISCUSSION THIS 08:58.260 --> 08:59.260 align:start TIME AROUND. 09:01.020 --> 09:04.020 align:start >> LET'S MOVE ON. 09:04.020 --> 09:04.290 align:start THE MASS TRANSIT BILL HAS PASSED 09:04.290 --> 09:05.220 align:start THE STATE SENATE FOR THE FIRST 09:05.220 --> 09:08.010 align:start TIME. 09:08.010 --> 09:08.210 align:start THE VOTE WAS 28-20 FOR THE BILL 09:08.210 --> 09:09.120 align:start THAT CALLS FOR REFERENDUMS IN 09:09.120 --> 09:10.040 align:start SIX COUNTIES ON HIGHER TAXES TO 09:10.040 --> 09:10.230 align:start FUND A BETTER BUS SYSTEM. 09:10.230 --> 09:11.150 align:start THE BILL PROHIBITS THE CREATION 09:11.150 --> 09:13.230 align:start OF LIGHT RAIL LINES. 09:13.230 --> 09:15.110 align:start IT COULD LEAD TO HIGHER 09:15.110 --> 09:17.100 align:start CORPORATE TAXES AND HIGHER LOCAL 09:17.100 --> 09:19.050 align:start INCOME TAXES WITH BUS RIDERS 09:19.050 --> 09:19.280 align:start PICKING UP 5% OF THE COST OF 09:19.280 --> 09:20.280 align:start IMPROVEMENTS. 09:22.220 --> 09:25.220 align:start SENATOR PAT MILLER. 09:25.220 --> 09:27.020 align:start >> THIS IS THE CAPITAL CITY AND 09:27.020 --> 09:27.230 align:start OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IS 09:27.230 --> 09:29.190 align:start INADEQUATE. 09:29.190 --> 09:32.000 align:start IT'S INADEQUATE FOR RESIDENTS OF 09:32.150 --> 09:35.150 align:start MARION COUNTY, IT'S INADEQUATE 09:35.150 --> 09:36.160 align:start FOR SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND 09:36.160 --> 09:37.130 align:start IT'S CERTAINLY INADEQUATE FOR 09:37.130 --> 09:38.050 align:start THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO COME TO 09:38.050 --> 09:39.280 align:start VISIT THIS CITY. 09:39.280 --> 09:40.190 align:start >> THIS IS AN ECONOMIC JUSTICE 09:40.190 --> 09:41.130 align:start ISSUE. 09:41.130 --> 09:42.050 align:start IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY ISSUE FOR 09:42.050 --> 09:44.110 align:start FAMILIES. 09:44.110 --> 09:45.140 align:start IF THEY CAN'T GET TO WORK ON 09:45.140 --> 09:46.090 align:start TIME, AND I CAN TELL YOU AS 09:46.090 --> 09:47.170 align:start RIDER, IT CAN BE REALLY 09:47.170 --> 09:48.230 align:start DIFFIIULT, IF YOU MISS YOUR OOE 09:49.270 --> 09:52.270 align:start BUS, YOU CAN BE LATE TO WORK. 09:52.270 --> 09:55.260 align:start >> BUS RIDER KEN MITCHELL THERE, 09:57.170 --> 10:00.170 align:start MIC McDANIEL, BRIAN BOSMA SAID 10:00.170 --> 10:02.030 align:start HE DOESN'T LIKE THE 10:02.030 --> 10:04.030 align:start FUNDING METHODS. 10:04.030 --> 10:05.200 align:start >> HE'S NOT "THE LONE RANGER" ON 10:05.200 --> 10:07.260 align:start THAT ONE, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE 10:07.260 --> 10:10.000 align:start PROBLEMS WITH THE FUNDING. 10:10.000 --> 10:11.060 align:start SENATOR MILLER IS ABSOLUTELY 10:11.060 --> 10:12.210 align:start RIGHT, CENTRAL INDIANA IS GOING 10:12.210 --> 10:14.230 align:start TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF 10:14.230 --> 10:15.280 align:start MASS TRANSIT PLAN EVENTUALLY AND 10:15.280 --> 10:17.160 align:start THIS IS A GOOD FIRST START, IF 10:17.160 --> 10:19.020 align:start WE CAN GET ANYTHING OUT OF THE 10:19.020 --> 10:20.050 align:start SENATE MOVING TOWARDS THE HOUSE, 10:20.050 --> 10:22.240 align:start THAT'S A GOOD FIRST START ON 10:22.240 --> 10:23.040 align:start THIS -- 10:23.040 --> 10:24.290 align:start >> THE BILL DID PASSSTHE HOUSE 10:24.290 --> 10:26.060 align:start LAST YEAR AND DIED IN THE 10:26.060 --> 10:26.170 align:start SENATE. 10:26.170 --> 10:27.230 align:start >> DIED IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. 10:27.230 --> 10:29.020 align:start SO THERE'S HOPE WE'RE GOING TO 10:29.020 --> 10:30.260 align:start GET SOMETHING DONE WITH WITH 10:30.260 --> 10:32.110 align:start THIS THIS TIME AROUND BUT THE 10:32.110 --> 10:33.140 align:start FUNDING MECHANISM IS 10:33.140 --> 10:35.080 align:start PROBLEMATIC, I LOOK FOR IT TO 10:35.080 --> 10:36.140 align:start TWEAK IN THE HOUSE AND I LOOK 10:36.140 --> 10:37.290 align:start FOR SOMETHING TO PASS THAT WOULD 10:37.290 --> 10:38.230 align:start GIVE THESE COUNTRIES THE 10:38.230 --> 10:39.290 align:start REFERENDUM TO MOVE FORWARD ON 10:39.290 --> 10:41.280 align:start MASS TRANSIT. 10:41.280 --> 10:43.110 align:start >> YEAH, PAT KELLY AT THE 10:43.110 --> 10:44.270 align:start INDIANA MANUFACTURERS 10:44.270 --> 10:46.250 align:start ASSOCIATION AMONG THOSE SAYIIG 10:46.250 --> 10:48.160 align:start THE CORPORATE TAX PORTION OF 10:48.160 --> 10:50.190 align:start THIS THING ISSUNFAIR. 10:50.190 --> 10:51.130 align:start >> WELL, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM 10:51.130 --> 10:52.280 align:start WITH THIS AND MIKE JUST TOUCHED 10:54.190 --> 10:57.190 align:start ON IT IS THIS GOT STALLED LAST 10:57.190 --> 11:00.060 align:start YEAR, I'M GLAD SENATOR MILLER IS 11:00.060 --> 11:02.210 align:start A CONVERT, I'M GLAD WE DID THE 11:02.210 --> 11:04.230 align:start STUDY TO FIND OUT HOW IMPORTANT 11:04.230 --> 11:07.040 align:start THIS WAS TO FIND OUT WE NEEDED 11:07.040 --> 11:09.180 align:start TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. 11:09.180 --> 11:11.180 align:start I THINK IT'S ALL MICROMANAGEMENT 11:11.180 --> 11:14.150 align:start OF LOCAL ISSUES AT THE STATE 11:14.150 --> 11:14.240 align:start LEVEL. 11:14.240 --> 11:16.200 align:start IF ANYTHING, THESE LAST TWO 11:16.200 --> 11:18.090 align:start ISSUES SHOULD TELL US THAT THE 11:18.090 --> 11:19.260 align:start STATE LEGISLATURE SHOULD GET OUT 11:19.260 --> 11:21.230 align:start OF THE WAY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT 11:21.230 --> 11:23.290 align:start AND LET LOCAL GOVERNMENT RULE AT 11:23.290 --> 11:25.070 align:start THE LOCAL LEVEL AND GET OUT OF 11:25.070 --> 11:25.270 align:start THE WAY. 11:25.270 --> 11:27.260 align:start I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE 11:27.260 --> 11:29.140 align:start DICTATING NO LIGHT RAIL HERE, 11:29.140 --> 11:32.140 align:start GOT TO DO THIS, YOU GOT TO DO 11:32.140 --> 11:33.110 align:start THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, PUT IT TO 11:33.110 --> 11:34.200 align:start THE PEOPLE FIRST, LET'S SEE IF 11:34.200 --> 11:36.110 align:start THEY WANT IT AND THEN WE CAN 11:36.110 --> 11:38.080 align:start FIGURE IT OUT. 11:38.080 --> 11:39.080 align:start BUT I THINK INDIANAPOLIS AND THE 11:39.080 --> 11:40.120 align:start SURROUNDING REGION CAN FIGURE 11:40.120 --> 11:41.290 align:start THAT OUT ON ITS OWN AND IT 11:41.290 --> 11:43.170 align:start DOESN'T NEED THE LEGISLATURE 11:43.170 --> 11:46.160 align:start TELLING IT WHAT TO DO. 11:46.160 --> 11:48.140 align:start >> YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE STATE 11:48.140 --> 11:50.050 align:start LEGISLATION TO -- DAN, YOU'VE 11:50.050 --> 11:51.010 align:start GOT TO HAVE STATE LEGISLATION TO 11:51.010 --> 11:52.120 align:start ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN IN THE FIRST 11:52.120 --> 11:52.220 align:start PLACE. 11:52.220 --> 11:53.160 align:start >> YOU NEED TO HHVE STATE 11:53.160 --> 11:54.230 align:start LEGISLATIOO BECAUSE IT'S CALLING 11:54.230 --> 11:56.170 align:start FOR A TAX INCREASE. 11:56.170 --> 11:57.000 align:start >> RIGHT. 11:57.000 --> 11:58.190 align:start >> HOW IRONIC IS IT HERE ON THE 11:58.190 --> 12:00.060 align:start ONE HAND YOU'VE GOT THE GOVERNOR 12:00.060 --> 12:01.180 align:start TALKING ABOUT TAX CUTS AND HERE 12:01.180 --> 12:03.190 align:start WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAX 12:03.190 --> 12:04.010 align:start INCREASES. 12:04.010 --> 12:05.030 align:start >> WELL, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE 12:05.030 --> 12:06.120 align:start IS, IS THAT IN THIS CASE YOU'RE 12:06.120 --> 12:08.120 align:start TALKING ABOUT A TAX INCREASE FOR 12:08.120 --> 12:10.180 align:start A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND THE 12:10.180 --> 12:13.150 align:start IDEA IS THAT THE PUBLIC WILL 12:13.150 --> 12:15.000 align:start WANT THIS AND ENDORSE IT, WE'LL 12:15.180 --> 12:18.180 align:start HAVE TO SEE BECAUSE A REFERENDUM 12:18.180 --> 12:20.070 align:start WILL BE INVOLVED. 12:20.070 --> 12:21.210 align:start I NEED IT GOES TO THE POINT THAT 12:21.210 --> 12:23.120 align:start DAN WAS MAKING AND THAT IS WHERE 12:23.120 --> 12:26.110 align:start DOES IT END WHERE YOU GET THE 12:26.110 --> 12:27.230 align:start ENABLING LEGISLATION FROM THE 12:27.230 --> 12:29.020 align:start LEGISLATURE AND THE LOCALS ARE 12:29.020 --> 12:30.170 align:start ALLOWED TO MANAGE THAT, WHEN 12:30.170 --> 12:31.200 align:start THHRE ARE STIPULATIONS PLACED IN 12:31.200 --> 12:32.200 align:start THE LEGISLATION BY THE GENERAL 12:32.200 --> 12:33.260 align:start ASSEMBLY, IT NOT ONLY MAKES IT 12:33.260 --> 12:34.290 align:start DIFFICULT FOR THE LOCALS TO 12:35.230 --> 12:38.230 align:start MANAGE IT, IT MAKES IT ALMOST 12:38.230 --> 12:41.050 align:start IMPOSSIBLE T TO GET THE 12:41.050 --> 12:42.110 align:start LEGISLATION PASSED. 12:42.140 --> 12:45.140 align:start LAST TWO SESSIONS WITH MASS 12:45.140 --> 12:47.080 align:start TRANSIT MANY OTHER ISSUES, THE 12:47.260 --> 12:50.260 align:start QUESTION WITH HOME RULE. 12:50.260 --> 12:51.260 align:start >> TEA PARTY SPEAKING OUT 12:51.260 --> 12:53.050 align:start AGAINST THIS, THEY SAY THEY 12:53.050 --> 12:55.140 align:start DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY TAX 12:55.140 --> 12:57.160 align:start INCREASES FOR TRANSIT PURPOSES. 12:57.160 --> 12:58.200 align:start DOES THAT HAVE A BEARING ON WHAT 12:58.200 --> 13:00.100 align:start GOES ON INSIDE THE STATEHOUSE? 13:00.100 --> 13:02.210 align:start >> IT HAS A BEARING, YES. 13:03.000 --> 13:06.000 align:start BUT IS IT A DETERMINANT? 13:06.000 --> 13:06.190 align:start PROBABLY NOT. 13:07.030 --> 13:10.030 align:start THIS IS AN ISSUE, WE TALK ABOUT 13:10.030 --> 13:12.060 align:start IT BEING TWO SESSION -- NOW TWO 13:12.060 --> 13:13.230 align:start SESSIONS THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. 13:13.230 --> 13:15.060 align:start ACTUALLY, YOU THINK ABOUT HOW 13:15.060 --> 13:16.210 align:start THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED AND 13:16.210 --> 13:18.090 align:start DEVISED AND PLANNED YOU COULD 13:18.090 --> 13:20.180 align:start MAYBE GO BACK A DECADE AT LEAST. 13:20.180 --> 13:21.160 align:start >> FOR TRANSIT, YEAH. 13:21.160 --> 13:24.000 align:start >> AND THE PLAN HAS MORPHED, 13:24.000 --> 13:26.000 align:start IT'S BEEN REDUCED IN ITS SCOPE, 13:26.210 --> 13:29.210 align:start IT'S BEEN ALTERED, THE WHOLE 13:29.210 --> 13:31.080 align:start NOTION OF HOME GOVERNANCE AND 13:31.080 --> 13:32.240 align:start LETTING PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR OWN 13:32.240 --> 13:34.110 align:start TRANSPORTATION THANKS SORT OF A 13:34.110 --> 13:36.010 align:start COMPROMISE AT SOME POINT IN THIS 13:36.010 --> 13:36.210 align:start CONTINUUM. 13:36.210 --> 13:39.020 align:start SOMETTING'S GOT TO GIVE. 13:39.020 --> 13:40.030 align:start I MEAN, AS LONG AS GOVERNMENN IS 13:41.110 --> 13:44.110 align:start EXPECTED TO PROVIDE CERTAIN 13:44.110 --> 13:45.250 align:start SERVICES, THE MONEY'S GOT TO 13:45.250 --> 13:47.260 align:start COME FROM WHERE AND BILL GATES 13:47.260 --> 13:50.260 align:start PROBABLY ISN'T INCLINED TO -- 13:50.260 --> 13:52.200 align:start >> THE MOMENT IT'S AN ANTILABOR 13:52.200 --> 13:53.230 align:start PROVISIONS IN THIS THAT 13:53.230 --> 13:56.110 align:start DEMOCRATS ARE OPPOSED TO SO 13:56.110 --> 13:57.200 align:start DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR IT TO KEEP 13:57.200 --> 13:58.050 align:start IT ALIVE. 13:59.020 --> 14:02.040 align:start >> THAT'S A PROBLEM, TOO, MIKE 14:02.040 --> 14:03.150 align:start MENTIONED SOME PROBLEMS, YOU 14:03.150 --> 14:05.060 align:start MENTIONED THE TEA PARTY. 14:05.060 --> 14:07.180 align:start I WOULD SAY THE FRIDAY NOON 14:07.180 --> 14:09.000 align:start DEADLINE FOR FILING AND NOT A 14:09.000 --> 14:11.250 align:start LOT OF PRIMARIES FREEZE A LOT OF 14:11.250 --> 14:13.130 align:start PEOPLE TO FREE UP THAT THEY 14:13.130 --> 14:15.250 align:start DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE TEA 14:15.250 --> 14:16.040 align:start PARTY. 14:16.040 --> 14:16.260 align:start >> YOU THINK LEGISLATION IS 14:16.260 --> 14:18.060 align:start GOING TO MOVE FOR QUICKLY 14:18.060 --> 14:20.000 align:start BECAUSE -- AT NOON TODAY WAS THE 14:20.000 --> 14:21.090 align:start FILING DEADLINE AND THERE DON'T 14:21.090 --> 14:23.210 align:start APPEAR TO BE ANY MEANINGFUL 14:23.210 --> 14:24.210 align:start PRIMARIES ON EITHER SIDE. 14:24.210 --> 14:26.030 align:start >> DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. 14:26.030 --> 14:27.280 align:start MIKE CAN SPEAK TO HIS SIDE A 14:27.280 --> 14:29.240 align:start LITTLE BIT MORE. 14:29.240 --> 14:32.190 align:start >> I CONCUR. 14:32.190 --> 14:33.010 align:start [LAUGHTER] 14:33.010 --> 14:33.280 align:start >> MORE SMOOTHLY? 14:33.280 --> 14:36.060 align:start >> NO, I CONCUR THAT THERE 14:36.060 --> 14:37.230 align:start REALLY AREN'T TOO MANY 14:37.230 --> 14:39.120 align:start MEANINGFUL PRIMARIES 14:39.120 --> 14:40.060 align:start >> TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK. 14:40.060 --> 14:40.230 align:start EACH WEEK WE POSE AN 14:40.230 --> 14:41.120 align:start UNSCIENTIFIC, ONLLNEEPOLL 14:41.120 --> 14:42.060 align:start QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR 14:42.060 --> 14:42.250 align:start ICEMILLER E-MAIL AND TEXT 14:42.250 --> 14:44.020 align:start ALERTS. 14:44.020 --> 14:45.170 align:start THIS WEEK'S QUESTION IS: 14:45.170 --> 14:47.140 align:start ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY HIGHER 14:47.290 --> 14:50.290 align:start -TAXES FOR A BETTER BUS SYSTEM? 14:50.290 --> 14:52.180 align:start YOUR CHOICES ARE -- 14:52.180 --> 14:53.030 align:start A. YES. 14:53.030 --> 14:53.210 align:start B. NO. 14:53.210 --> 14:54.100 align:start LAST WEEK'S QUESTION WAS: 14:56.230 --> 14:59.230 align:start SHOULD CIVIL UNIONS BE LEGAL? 15:02.010 --> 15:05.010 align:start 92% SAID YES, 8% SAID NO. 15:05.010 --> 15:05.230 align:start IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PART 15:05.230 --> 15:06.150 align:start IN THE POLL, GO TO WFYI.ORG/IWIR 15:06.150 --> 15:08.020 align:start AND LOOK FOR THE POLL. 15:08.020 --> 15:08.240 align:start >> STATE LAWMAKERS TOOK ACTION 15:08.240 --> 15:09.150 align:start THIS WEEK TO LIMIT THE ABILITY 15:09.150 --> 15:10.060 align:start OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO 15:10.060 --> 15:10.270 align:start DO VIDEO SURVEILLANCE USING A 15:10.270 --> 15:12.280 align:start DRONE. 15:12.280 --> 15:13.220 align:start THE ONE-SIDED VOTE IN THE HOUSE 15:13.220 --> 15:16.090 align:start OF REPRESENTATIVES WAS 85-11 FOR 15:16.090 --> 15:17.220 align:start A BILL THAT WOULD REQUIRE A 15:17.220 --> 15:19.050 align:start SEARCH WARRANT FOR THE USE OF A 15:19.050 --> 15:20.080 align:start DRONE-MOUNTED CAMERA OVER 15:20.080 --> 15:21.260 align:start PRIVATE PROPERTY. 15:21.260 --> 15:22.160 align:start THERE WAS SOME CONTROVERSY, 15:22.160 --> 15:23.240 align:start HOWEVER. 15:23.270 --> 15:26.270 align:start HERE'S REPRESENTATIVE MATT 15:26.270 --> 15:29.180 align:start >> THE STATE SHOULD NOT BE 15:29.180 --> 15:31.200 align:start ATTEMPTING TO GET INTO YOUR 15:35.050 --> 15:38.050 align:start PRIVATE BUSINESS AND SEE THINGS 15:38.050 --> 15:38.260 align:start YOU'RE DOING, KIND OF RESPECT 15:38.260 --> 15:39.170 align:start YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY, UNLESS 15:39.170 --> 15:40.100 align:start THEY HAVE SOME CAUSE TO BELIEVE 15:40.100 --> 15:41.020 align:start THAT YOU'RE ENGAGING CRIMINAL 15:41.020 --> 15:42.150 align:start ACTIVITY. 15:42.150 --> 15:43.060 align:start >> I AM NOT INTERESTED IN, IN 15:43.060 --> 15:45.120 align:start ADVANCE, LIMITING THE 15:45.120 --> 15:46.040 align:start EFFECTIVENESS OF LAW 15:46.040 --> 15:48.090 align:start ENFORCEMENT. 15:48.090 --> 15:48.280 align:start I'M SORRY, I THINK THAT'S 15:48.280 --> 15:49.190 align:start SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT ENGAGE 15:50.210 --> 15:53.210 align:start IN. 15:53.210 --> 15:55.270 align:start >> STATE REPRESENTATIVE ED 15:55.270 --> 15:57.110 align:start DELANEY THERE. 15:57.110 --> 15:58.010 align:start JOHN KETZENBERGER, ARE YOU 15:58.010 --> 15:58.180 align:start WORRIED ABOUT THE COPS 15:58.180 --> 16:00.080 align:start VIDEOTAPING IN YOUR BACKYARD? 16:00.090 --> 16:03.090 align:start [LAUGHTER] 16:03.090 --> 16:05.010 align:start >> LET ME CALL MY WIFE AND HAVE 16:05.010 --> 16:07.230 align:start HER COVER UP ALL THE BUSHES. 16:07.230 --> 16:08.040 align:start [LAUGHTER] 16:08.040 --> 16:10.250 align:start >> NO, ACTUALLY, I'M NOT. 16:10.250 --> 16:12.070 align:start BECAUSE I -- THERE ARE A LOT OF 16:12.070 --> 16:14.040 align:start THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN 16:14.040 --> 16:15.240 align:start BEFORE WE GET TO THIS POINT. 16:15.240 --> 16:17.090 align:start I SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE'S 16:17.090 --> 16:18.130 align:start TRYING TO DO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT 16:18.130 --> 16:20.010 align:start THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY BUT I 16:20.010 --> 16:21.060 align:start THINK REPRESENTATIVE PIERCE 16:21.130 --> 16:24.130 align:start RAISES A GOOD CIVIL LIBERTIES 16:24.130 --> 16:26.000 align:start QUESTION, BUT I THINK A LOT OF 16:26.000 --> 16:27.000 align:start THAT'S GOING TO BE ANSWERED BY 16:27.000 --> 16:28.180 align:start THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INSTEAD 16:28.180 --> 16:30.080 align:start OF THE STATE GOVERNMENT. 16:30.080 --> 16:31.270 align:start AND I THINK REPRESENTATIVE 16:31.270 --> 16:33.210 align:start DELANEY TALKING ABOUT THE 16:33.210 --> 16:34.240 align:start EFFECTIVE --ING TRYING NOT TO 16:34.240 --> 16:36.030 align:start SHUT DOWN LAW ENFORCEMENT BEFORE 16:36.030 --> 16:38.060 align:start YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WORKING 16:38.060 --> 16:38.250 align:start AGAIN, AGAIN, THE FEDERAL 16:38.250 --> 16:39.160 align:start GOVERNMENT'S GOING TO DICK 16:39.160 --> 16:41.220 align:start TAUGHT A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I 16:41.220 --> 16:42.150 align:start THINK. 16:42.150 --> 16:43.150 align:start >> THIS BILL DEALS WITH OTHER 16:43.150 --> 16:46.090 align:start FORRS OF WHAT THEY CALL DIGITAL 16:46.090 --> 16:47.260 align:start SURVEILLANCE, GPS TRACKERS, CELL 16:47.260 --> 16:49.130 align:start PHONE TRACKERS. 16:49.130 --> 16:51.150 align:start IT'S TOUGH TO KEEP UP WITH 16:51.150 --> 16:53.250 align:start TECHNOLOGY AND -- AND MATCH IT 16:53.250 --> 16:56.080 align:start TO THE LAW. 16:56.080 --> 16:58.110 align:start >> NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, JIM. 16:58.170 --> 17:01.190 align:start THESE ARE ISSUES THAT NEVER MIND 17:01.190 --> 17:04.100 align:start THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF INDIANA, 17:04.100 --> 17:05.250 align:start THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE 17:05.250 --> 17:07.160 align:start BEEN UNTHINKABLE WHEN WE FIRST 17:07.160 --> 17:09.220 align:start SHOWED UP AT THE STATEHOUSE A 17:09.220 --> 17:10.230 align:start COUPLE DECADES AGO. 17:10.230 --> 17:12.160 align:start AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS YET 17:12.160 --> 17:13.130 align:start ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE THE LAW 17:13.130 --> 17:15.290 align:start IS STRUGGLING MIGHTILY TO KEEP 17:15.290 --> 17:16.250 align:start UP. 17:18.100 --> 17:21.100 align:start BUT EVEN IF YOU PROHIBIT DRONES, 17:21.100 --> 17:22.100 align:start UNMANNED AIRCRAFT FROM GETTING 17:22.100 --> 17:24.280 align:start THESE IMAGES, I PRESUME THERE'S 17:24.280 --> 17:26.040 align:start NOTHHNG THAT WOULD PREVENT, SAY, 17:26.040 --> 17:27.120 align:start A POLICE HELICOPTER FROM GETTING 17:27.120 --> 17:29.160 align:start THE EXACT SAME IMAGES, THE ONLY 17:29.160 --> 17:30.270 align:start DIFFERENCE BEING IT'S A LITTLE 17:30.270 --> 17:33.020 align:start BIGGER AND THERE'S SOMEBODY 17:33.020 --> 17:34.180 align:start FLYING IT AND IF YOU REALLY WANT 17:34.180 --> 17:37.100 align:start TO CARRY THIS FURTHER, I'M NO 17:37.100 --> 17:38.240 align:start EXPERT ON SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY 17:38.240 --> 17:40.060 align:start BUT, YOU KNOW, IF -- I THINK YOU 17:40.060 --> 17:43.060 align:start CAN GET A PHOTOGRAPH NOW FROM 17:43.060 --> 17:44.120 align:start SPACE WHICH WOULD SHOW SOMEBODY 17:44.120 --> 17:45.180 align:start HAS A HANGNAIL. 17:45.180 --> 17:46.280 align:start SO THERE'S REALLY -- I MEAN, 17:46.280 --> 17:48.250 align:start WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? 17:49.060 --> 17:52.060 align:start DO YOU PUT A BUBBLE OVER -- I 17:52.060 --> 17:54.270 align:start DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING INTO 17:54.270 --> 17:56.130 align:start JOHN'S BACKYARD, FOR EXAMPLE -- 17:56.130 --> 17:57.080 align:start >> I THINK YOU'RE SUGGESTING 17:57.080 --> 17:58.090 align:start THAT MAYBE LAWMAKERS SHOULD 17:58.120 --> 18:01.140 align:start WORRY ABOUT OTHER THINGS. 18:01.140 --> 18:02.230 align:start >> IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN 18:02.230 --> 18:03.260 align:start JUST THE DRONE ISSUE. 18:04.010 --> 18:07.010 align:start >> THE VOTE WAS 85-11, OK? 18:07.010 --> 18:09.190 align:start YOU PICK TWO PEOPLE ON THE VIDEO 18:09.190 --> 18:11.260 align:start THAT WERE AGAINST IT. 18:11.260 --> 18:12.250 align:start >> NO, NO. 18:12.250 --> 18:13.220 align:start HE'S FOR IT. 18:13.220 --> 18:16.160 align:start HE'S FOR IT. 18:16.160 --> 18:18.250 align:start >> IT BROUGHT ERIC COOK AND MATT 18:18.250 --> 18:20.170 align:start PIERCE TOGETHER. 18:20.170 --> 18:21.080 align:start >> TOGETHER. 18:21.080 --> 18:21.200 align:start >> OK? 18:21.200 --> 18:22.160 align:start OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM. 18:22.160 --> 18:24.130 align:start DO WE AGREE? 18:24.130 --> 18:25.130 align:start >> 85-11 ON THIS VOTE. 18:25.130 --> 18:27.010 align:start AND WHAT THEY'RE WORRIEE ABOUT 18:27.010 --> 18:28.140 align:start HERE IS THE FUTURE OF WHETHER OR 18:28.140 --> 18:30.100 align:start NOT YOU OUGHT TO HAVE A SEARCH 18:30.100 --> 18:31.170 align:start WARRANT TO COME TO YOUR 18:31.170 --> 18:31.280 align:start PROPERTY. 18:31.280 --> 18:33.160 align:start AND THIS IS ANOTHER FORM, LIKE 18:33.160 --> 18:35.010 align:start YOU SAID, THAT MODERN TECHNOLOGY 18:35.010 --> 18:36.040 align:start THAT'S INVOLVED HERE IS 18:36.040 --> 18:37.170 align:start SOMETHING THAT'S NEW TO 18:37.170 --> 18:37.290 align:start EVERYBODY. 18:38.000 --> 18:41.000 align:start WE'VE SEEN WHAT THESE DRONES CAN 18:41.000 --> 18:42.280 align:start DO IN BATTLE SITUATIONS OVERSEAS 18:42.280 --> 18:44.040 align:start AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT 18:44.040 --> 18:45.240 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SITUATION 18:45.240 --> 18:47.150 align:start WHERE IT CAN BE USED ILLEGALLY 18:47.150 --> 18:49.040 align:start TO SEARCH YOUR PROPERTY. 18:49.040 --> 18:51.000 align:start AND THAT'S A SERIOUS 18:51.000 --> 18:53.000 align:start CONVERSATION TO HAVE. 18:53.000 --> 18:55.270 align:start IT'S NOTHING TRIVIAL ABOUT THAT. 18:55.270 --> 18:56.210 align:start >> THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS 18:56.210 --> 18:58.150 align:start ALREADY HAVE THEM. 18:58.150 --> 19:00.210 align:start GREENFIELD USES ONE FOR ACCIDENT 19:00.210 --> 19:01.040 align:start INVESTIGATION. 19:01.040 --> 19:03.020 align:start >> I TALKED TO MATT PIERCE ABOUT 19:03.020 --> 19:04.080 align:start THIS, I MEEN, THE AUTHORS OF THE 19:04.080 --> 19:06.030 align:start BILL DID THIS IN CONSULTATION 19:06.030 --> 19:07.050 align:start WITH THE STATE POLICE AND OTHER 19:07.050 --> 19:09.270 align:start POLICE AGENCIES, AND IT DEALS -- 19:09.270 --> 19:12.040 align:start >> A LOT MORE -- AND A LOT MORE 19:12.040 --> 19:13.100 align:start THAN JUST DRONES. 19:13.100 --> 19:14.220 align:start AND IT'S A POLICY THAT NEEDS TO 19:14.220 --> 19:16.010 align:start BE PUT IN PLACE. 19:16.010 --> 19:18.070 align:start AAD THERR'S JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT. 19:18.070 --> 19:20.070 align:start SO I'M, YOU KNOW, PUT ONE DOWN 19:20.070 --> 19:22.100 align:start FOR WHERE MIKE AND I AGREE AND 19:22.100 --> 19:23.280 align:start YOU GUYS ARE OFF -- I DON'T KNOW 19:23.280 --> 19:24.290 align:start WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. 19:25.070 --> 19:28.070 align:start [LAUGHTER] 19:28.070 --> 19:30.280 align:start >> I'M NOT UNSYMPATHETIC. 19:30.280 --> 19:31.280 align:start >> TRY TO MAKE THE STATEMENT 19:31.280 --> 19:34.160 align:start THAT THIS IS A TRIVIAL 19:34.160 --> 19:35.120 align:start DISCUSSION IS JUST WRONG. 19:35.120 --> 19:36.130 align:start >> I WOULD SAY THAT THE SENATE 19:36.130 --> 19:38.290 align:start BILL IS A LITTLE BIT MORE 19:38.290 --> 19:39.100 align:start TRIVIAL. 19:39.100 --> 19:40.130 align:start THIS IS A SERIOUS DISCUSSION 19:40.130 --> 19:41.270 align:start ABOUT WHERE THE POLICY NEEDS TO 19:41.270 --> 19:44.110 align:start GO FORWARD WITH ELECTRONIC 19:44.110 --> 19:44.240 align:start SURVEILLANCE. 19:44.240 --> 19:45.150 align:start >> I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE 19:45.150 --> 19:47.050 align:start AUTHORS OF THE BILL, I BELIEVE 19:47.050 --> 19:48.160 align:start THERE SHOULD BE PRIVACY. 19:48.160 --> 19:50.030 align:start I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT THERE 19:50.030 --> 19:52.150 align:start ARE PRACTICALITIES HERE THAT 19:52.150 --> 19:53.210 align:start MAKE SOME OF THIS MOOT. 19:53.210 --> 19:55.270 align:start IF IT'S MANNED AIRCRAFT, IF IT'S 19:55.270 --> 19:57.270 align:start OTHER TECHNOLOGY, I'M JUST -- 19:57.270 --> 20:00.030 align:start THERE'S A PRINCIPLE, AND THEN 20:00.030 --> 20:01.130 align:start THE APPROACH I THINK IS A GOOD 20:01.130 --> 20:01.210 align:start ONE. 20:02.270 --> 20:05.270 align:start >> A DRONE WITH A HIGH DEF 20:05.270 --> 20:07.090 align:start CAMERA AT 200 FEET OVER YOUR 20:07.090 --> 20:08.210 align:start PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE 20:08.210 --> 20:09.270 align:start INCREDIBLY USEFUL FOR FIGURING 20:09.270 --> 20:10.240 align:start OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. 20:10.240 --> 20:12.120 align:start I DO THINK THERE'S A SERIOUS 20:12.120 --> 20:13.210 align:start POLICY QUESTION HERE BUT I DO 20:13.210 --> 20:14.240 align:start THINK ALSO THE FEDERAL 20:14.240 --> 20:16.150 align:start GOVERNMENT HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW 20:16.150 --> 20:18.060 align:start TO REGULATE THESE DRONES FIRST 20:18.060 --> 20:19.030 align:start AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT'S GOING 20:19.030 --> 20:20.240 align:start TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE 20:20.240 --> 20:21.060 align:start REGULATIONS. 20:21.060 --> 20:22.140 align:start IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN START 20:22.140 --> 20:23.110 align:start POPPING THESE THINGS IN THE AIR 20:23.110 --> 20:24.180 align:start AND NOT WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING 20:24.180 --> 20:25.080 align:start TO HAPPEN. 20:25.080 --> 20:27.080 align:start IT HAS TO BE SETTLED AT THE 20:27.080 --> 20:28.230 align:start FEDERAL LEVEL FIRST BEFORE YOU 20:32.210 --> 20:35.210 align:start CAN WORRY IT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. 20:35.210 --> 20:36.060 align:start >> MOVING ON 20:36.060 --> 20:36.260 align:start HOUSE MINORITY LEADER SCOTT 20:36.260 --> 20:37.160 align:start PELATH COMPLAINED THIS WEEK 20:37.160 --> 20:38.060 align:start ABOUT THE FOCUS OF THE 2014 20:38.060 --> 20:38.210 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 20:38.210 --> 20:39.100 align:start HE SAID THERE IS TIME FOR 20:39.100 --> 20:40.010 align:start LEGISLATION ON FERAL CATS AND 20:40.010 --> 20:40.240 align:start -CURSIVE WRITING BUT NOT FOR ME 20:40.240 --> 20:42.220 align:start IMPORTANT ISSUES. 20:42.220 --> 20:43.290 align:start >> IF WE'RE MERELY HERE TO WORK 20:44.090 --> 20:47.090 align:start ON BANALITIES AND IF WE'RE 20:47.090 --> 20:50.020 align:start MERELY HERE TO INDULGE THE 20:50.020 --> 20:51.270 align:start BACKWARD-LOOKING FANTASIES OF A 20:51.270 --> 20:53.090 align:start CEASELESS RIGHT-WING AGENDA, I 20:53.090 --> 20:54.150 align:start THINK IT'S MAYBE TIME TO 20:54.150 --> 20:55.090 align:start CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S BEST FOR 20:55.090 --> 20:56.020 align:start THE PEOPLE OF INDIANA IF WE JUST 20:56.090 --> 20:59.090 align:start ADDOURNED. 20:59.090 --> 21:00.280 align:start >> JON SCHWANTES, IS THAT SORT 21:03.200 --> 21:06.200 align:start OF RHETORIC CONSTRUCTIVE? 21:06.200 --> 21:07.260 align:start >> OH, I DON'T KNOW. 21:07.260 --> 21:10.130 align:start I THINK THAT'S, IN THE SCHEME OF 21:10.130 --> 21:11.000 align:start THINGS. 21:11.000 --> 21:13.120 align:start >> FERAL CATS. 21:13.120 --> 21:14.180 align:start >> FERAL CATS. 21:14.180 --> 21:15.220 align:start I -- WELL, REMEMBER IT WASN'T 21:15.220 --> 21:16.240 align:start TOO MANY YEARS AGO THAT PEOPLE 21:16.240 --> 21:18.240 align:start WERE UP IN ARMS ABOUT REFERENCES 21:18.240 --> 21:20.120 align:start TO BOMB -- CAR BOMBERS AND 21:20.120 --> 21:22.120 align:start OTHERS WHEN HIS PREDECESSOR WAS 21:22.120 --> 21:24.150 align:start LABELED SUCH BY MITCH DANIELS? 21:24.150 --> 21:26.080 align:start A LITTLE BIT OF THIS IS GOING TO 21:26.080 --> 21:27.220 align:start GO WITH LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. 21:27.220 --> 21:29.020 align:start YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS KIND 21:29.020 --> 21:30.140 align:start OF RHETORIC. 21:30.140 --> 21:31.270 align:start PEOPLE ARE JOCKEYING FOR 21:31.270 --> 21:32.140 align:start POSITION. 21:32.140 --> 21:33.240 align:start I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK THIS 21:33.240 --> 21:34.260 align:start IS -- I MEAN, THERE'S NO 21:37.080 --> 21:40.080 align:start PERSONAL ATTACK. 21:40.080 --> 21:41.180 align:start YOU'RE GOING -- WHERE YOU WANT 21:41.180 --> 21:41.260 align:start IT. 21:41.260 --> 21:43.170 align:start >> HE'S THE ONE THAT'S TALKING, 21:43.170 --> 21:44.110 align:start NOT ME. 21:44.110 --> 21:46.260 align:start I FIND IT INTERESTING TTAT -- 21:46.260 --> 21:49.200 align:start SCOTT PELATH IS IN A SMALL 21:49.200 --> 21:51.060 align:start MINORITY AND HE'S GOT FREEDOM 21:51.060 --> 21:51.290 align:start HERE TO SAY THINGS. 21:51.290 --> 21:52.260 align:start >> HE HAS TO. 21:53.030 --> 21:56.030 align:start HE'S TRYING TO SEIZE THE 21:56.030 --> 21:56.160 align:start OPPORTUNITY. 21:56.160 --> 21:57.200 align:start WHEN E'S IN THE MINORITY, 21:57.200 --> 21:59.050 align:start ESPECIALLY THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE 21:59.050 --> 22:00.100 align:start DEMOCRATS, YOU HAVE TO TAKE 22:00.100 --> 22:03.100 align:start EVERY OPPORTUNITY, MAKE EVERY 22:03.100 --> 22:04.100 align:start HOLE THAT YOU CAN. 22:04.100 --> 22:05.210 align:start SO HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING. 22:05.210 --> 22:08.180 align:start I THINK HE'S HAD A PRETTY GOOD 22:08.180 --> 22:10.040 align:start SESSION IN THAT REGARD. 22:10.040 --> 22:12.060 align:start HE'S BEEN A GOOD QUOTE SO HE 22:12.060 --> 22:13.210 align:start GETS A LOT OF PLAY FROM THE 22:13.210 --> 22:15.040 align:start MEDIA, HE'S BEEN ACCESSIBLE. 22:15.040 --> 22:16.150 align:start HE'S PICKED ON THE RIGHT ISSUES 22:16.150 --> 22:19.030 align:start AND WORKED WITH HIS CAUCUS TO 22:19.030 --> 22:20.110 align:start PRESENT A UNITED FRONT. 22:20.110 --> 22:21.190 align:start I THINK HE'S HAD A PRETTY GOOD 22:21.190 --> 22:22.000 align:start SESSION. 22:22.000 --> 22:23.180 align:start >> MOST OF THE SESSION'S BEEN 22:23.180 --> 22:26.030 align:start DOMINATED WITH THE TOPIC OF THE 22:26.030 --> 22:29.000 align:start MARRIAGE AMENDMENT. 22:29.000 --> 22:31.270 align:start AND PELATH PUTTING OUT ABOUT 22:31.270 --> 22:33.210 align:start INCREASING THE MAJOR WAGE,,% 22:33.230 --> 22:36.230 align:start INCREASING JOBS IN THE STATE.AN- 22:36.230 --> 22:37.070 align:start HE'S RIGHT. 22:37.070 --> 22:38.140 align:start WE'VE FOCUSED ON THE WRONG 22:38.140 --> 22:40.050 align:start THINGS AND FINALLY WE'RE INTO A 22:40.050 --> 22:42.180 align:start TAX CUT WHERE IT DOESN'T -- 22:42.180 --> 22:44.060 align:start >> WHAT THE GOVERNOR AND 22:44.060 --> 22:45.110 align:start REPUBLICAN LEADERS WILL TELL YOU 22:45.110 --> 22:47.080 align:start IS THE MEDIA HAS FOCUSED ON THE 22:47.080 --> 22:48.050 align:start MARRIAGE DEBATE AND THERE'S BEEN 22:48.050 --> 22:49.050 align:start A LOT GOING ON. 22:49.050 --> 22:51.050 align:start THE GOVERNOR SAID IT'S BEEN A 22:51.050 --> 22:52.170 align:start PRODUCTIVE SESSION SO FAR. 22:52.170 --> 22:53.220 align:start >> EVERYTHING HE PROPOSED IN HIS 22:53.220 --> 22:55.020 align:start STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH IS 22:55.020 --> 22:57.190 align:start STILL ALIVE IN BOTH HOUSES. 22:59.070 --> 23:02.090 align:start IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING ELSE. 23:02.090 --> 23:04.040 align:start PRETTY GOOD BATTING AVERAGE. 23:04.040 --> 23:04.280 align:start I WOULD THINK. 23:04.280 --> 23:06.190 align:start ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT 23:06.190 --> 23:08.000 align:start REPRESENTATIVE BOSMA BEFORE THE 23:08.000 --> 23:10.000 align:start SESSION STARTED ARE STILL ALIVE 23:11.040 --> 23:14.040 align:start AND ACTIVE AND -- 23:14.040 --> 23:14.190 align:start >> SUPERMAN. 23:14.190 --> 23:16.030 align:start >> THEY WERE IMPORTANT THINGS. 23:16.030 --> 23:17.090 align:start THAT'S THE POINT HERE. 23:17.090 --> 23:18.270 align:start THEE WERE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 23:18.270 --> 23:20.060 align:start ORIENTED, THEY'RE BUSINESS 23:20.070 --> 23:23.070 align:start TAXES, THEY'RE HIGHWAY FUNDING, 23:23.070 --> 23:23.200 align:start $400 MILLION. 23:23.200 --> 23:24.220 align:start THEY'RE PRE-K EDUCATION. 23:24.220 --> 23:26.150 align:start ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE VERY 23:26.150 --> 23:27.270 align:start IMPORTANT THINGS ARE ALL STILL 23:27.270 --> 23:29.180 align:start ALIVE AND HERE'S WHAT'S GOING 23:29.180 --> 23:31.150 align:start ON, WHAT SCOTT PELATH RUNS THE 23:31.150 --> 23:34.000 align:start RISK OF DOING IS HE'S DOING 23:34.000 --> 23:35.040 align:start EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID HE WASN'T 23:35.040 --> 23:36.270 align:start GOING TO DO, TO GET CAUGHT UP IN 23:37.060 --> 23:40.060 align:start THE TRIVIAL RHETORIC OF THE HARD 23:40.060 --> 23:40.160 align:start CORE -- 23:40.160 --> 23:42.260 align:start >> IT'S TRIVIA? 23:42.260 --> 23:45.230 align:start >> MINIMUM WAGE IS TRIVIAL? 23:45.230 --> 23:46.170 align:start >> CONSTRUCTIVE IN HIS COMMENT 23:46.170 --> 23:47.140 align:start AND HE'S NOT. 23:48.010 --> 23:51.010 align:start AND BECAUSE WHAT HE SAID -- 23:51.010 --> 23:53.110 align:start >> MINIMUM WAGE IS TRIVIAL? 23:53.110 --> 23:54.230 align:start >> BECAUSE NOTHING IS BEING 23:54.230 --> 23:57.110 align:start DONE, AS HE SAYS, WHEN ALL THE 23:57.110 --> 23:58.260 align:start IMPORTANT THINGS ARE DONE, HE 23:59.080 --> 24:02.100 align:start RUNS THE RISK OF BEING LESS 24:02.100 --> 24:04.160 align:start CREDIBLE THAN CHICK LITTLE. 24:04.160 --> 24:06.010 align:start >> WHEN THEY MOVED TO ADJOURN ON 24:16.240 --> 24:19.240 align:start THE FLOOR HE SAID HE WOULDN'T. 24:19.240 --> 24:20.040 align:start FINALLY 24:20.040 --> 24:20.260 align:start IT'S GIRLLSCOUT COOKIE TIME, AND 24:20.260 --> 24:21.180 align:start IT'S ALSO TIME TO PROVEETHAT THE 24:21.180 --> 24:22.070 align:start TRADITIONAL RECIPES CAN BE 24:22.070 --> 24:23.090 align:start IMPROVED. 24:23.090 --> 24:23.290 align:start THATT' WHY FIVE LOCAL CHEFS 24:23.290 --> 24:24.200 align:start COMPETED IN COOKIE COOKOFF AT 24:24.200 --> 24:25.080 align:start BANKERS LIFE FIELDHOUSE. 24:25.080 --> 24:25.290 align:start IT WAS TO BENEFIT THE GIRL 24:25.290 --> 24:26.090 align:start SCOUTS. 24:26.090 --> 24:26.270 align:start THE IDEA WAS TO MAKE NEW 24:26.270 --> 24:27.160 align:start DESSERTS OUT OF GIRL SCOUT 24:27.160 --> 24:28.140 align:start DEANA POTTERF OF THE GIRL 24:28.140 --> 24:30.040 align:start SCOUTS. 24:30.040 --> 24:30.280 align:start >> THEY'RE ALL REALLY EXCITED 24:30.280 --> 24:31.180 align:start ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO 24:31.180 --> 24:33.020 align:start HIGHLIGHT WHAT THEY CAN DO, AND 24:33.020 --> 24:33.240 align:start SO THEY ARE ALL USING DIFFERENT 24:33.240 --> 24:34.230 align:start GIRL SCOUT COOKIES. 24:34.230 --> 24:36.110 align:start THEY'RE EXCITED THAT IT'S NOT 24:36.110 --> 24:37.050 align:start JUST A COMMON DESSERT, THEY CAN 24:37.050 --> 24:37.270 align:start GET THEIR CHOPS OUT THERE AND 24:37.270 --> 24:40.250 align:start SEE WHAA THEY CAN DO. 24:40.250 --> 24:41.160 align:start >> THE LEAST I CAN DO IS HELP 24:41.160 --> 24:42.060 align:start THEM CONTINUE TO HELP YOUNG 24:42.060 --> 24:42.240 align:start GIRLS IN OUR COMMUNITY, 24:42.240 --> 24:43.110 align:start ABSOLUTELY . 24:43.110 --> 24:44.260 align:start AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL BUY 24:44.260 --> 24:45.260 align:start MORE GIRL SCOUT COOKIES FOR THIS 24:47.120 --> 24:50.120 align:start MONTH. 24:50.120 --> 24:52.090 align:start >> THAT'S WINNING CHEF SAM BROWN 24:54.070 --> 24:57.070 align:start WHO MADE SAVANNAH SMILES SHRIMP 24:57.070 --> 24:58.000 align:start >> DAN PARKER, ARE GIRL SCOUT 24:58.000 --> 24:58.220 align:start COOKIES THE BEST FUNDRAISING 24:58.220 --> 25:01.020 align:start IDEA EVER? 25:01.020 --> 25:01.170 align:start >> ABSOLUTELY. 25:01.170 --> 25:03.130 align:start THE TAG ALONGSSLASTED ABOUT AN 25:03.130 --> 25:04.230 align:start HOUR THE OTHER NIGHT AT MY 25:04.230 --> 25:05.020 align:start HOUSE. 25:05.020 --> 25:06.200 align:start >> I ORDERED THREE CASES. 25:06.200 --> 25:07.020 align:start [LAUGHTER] 25:07.020 --> 25:09.280 align:start >> DO YOU GET TIRED OF RUNNING 25:09.280 --> 25:12.180 align:start INTO GIRL SCOUTS AT THE STORE. 25:12.180 --> 25:13.100 align:start >> NO, I LOVE IT. 25:13.100 --> 25:15.100 align:start I'M TRYING TO CONVINCE MY WIFE 25:15.100 --> 25:16.280 align:start EATING A BOX OF THIN MINTS WOULD 25:19.020 --> 25:22.020 align:start MAKE ME THINNER. 25:22.020 --> 25:22.140 align:start [LAUGHTER] 25:22.140 --> 25:24.070 align:start >> I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY 25:24.070 --> 25:25.240 align:start WOULD THINK THAT A SHOW LIKE 25:25.240 --> 25:28.120 align:start THIS WOULD ENGAGE IN ANYTHINGG% 25:28.120 --> 25:28.220 align:start TRIVIAL. 25:28.220 --> 25:31.210 align:start [LAUGHTER] 25:31.210 --> 25:32.110 align:start OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT DAN 25:32.110 --> 25:32.210 align:start PARKER. 25:32.210 --> 25:33.100 align:start REPUBLICAN MIKE MCDANIEL. 25:33.100 --> 25:33.290 align:start JON SCHWANTES OF "INDIANA 25:33.290 --> 25:34.120 align:start LAWMAKERS" AND 25:34.120 --> 25:35.040 align:start JOHN KETZENBERGER OF THE INDIANA 25:35.040 --> 25:35.230 align:start FISCAL POLICY INSTITUTE. 25:35.230 --> 25:36.180 align:start IF YOU'D LIKE 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