WEBVTT 00:01.120 --> 00:04.120 align:start INDIANA'S TRANSPORTATION 00:04.120 --> 00:06.210 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE GETS A C MINUS 00:06.210 --> 00:07.160 align:start FROM THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF 00:07.160 --> 00:08.130 align:start CIVIL ENGINEERS, BUT YOU DON'T 00:08.130 --> 00:09.090 align:start HAVE TO BE AN ENGINEER TO 00:09.090 --> 00:11.100 align:start RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF THE 00:11.100 --> 00:12.090 align:start STATE'S ROADS AND BRIDGES HAVE 00:12.090 --> 00:13.060 align:start BECOME A REAL PAIN IN THE 00:13.060 --> 00:15.060 align:start ASPHALT. 00:15.060 --> 00:16.280 align:start MOST EVERYONE AGREES THAT 00:16.280 --> 00:17.250 align:start REPAIRS ARE BADLY NEEDED. 00:17.250 --> 00:18.220 align:start WHAT'S UP FOR DEBATE IS HOW TO 00:18.220 --> 00:19.120 align:start PAY FOR THE NECESSARY 00:19.120 --> 00:21.120 align:start IMPROVEMENTS. 00:21.120 --> 00:22.240 align:start HI, I'M JON SCHWANTES, AND ON 00:22.240 --> 00:24.200 align:start THIS EDITION OF "INDIANA 00:24.200 --> 00:26.060 align:start LAWMAKERS," WE'LL WE'LL FOCUS 00:26.060 --> 00:27.080 align:start ON INDIANA'S AGING 00:27.080 --> 00:28.080 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WHAT TO DO 00:28.080 --> 00:29.040 align:start ABOUT IT, WITH A PANEL OF 00:29.040 --> 00:29.270 align:start TRANSPORTATION POLICYMAKERS 00:29.270 --> 00:31.120 align:start AND STAKEHOLDERS. 00:31.120 --> 00:33.100 align:start FIRST UP, THOUGH, PAVING THE 00:33.100 --> 00:36.050 align:start WAY FOR THE DISCUSSION IS THIS 00:36.050 --> 00:36.290 align:start REPORT FROM CHRISTOPHER AYERS 00:37.160 --> 00:40.160 align:start OF WFYI PUBLIC MEDIA. 00:40.160 --> 00:42.070 align:start THE CONDITION OF INDIANA'S 00:42.070 --> 00:43.220 align:start ROADS AND BRIDGES TOOK CENTER 00:43.220 --> 00:45.090 align:start STAGE LAST SUMMER AFTER THE 00:45.090 --> 00:46.290 align:start SUPPORT PIER OF AN INTERSTATE 00:46.290 --> 00:48.280 align:start 65 BRIDGE NORTH OF LAFAYETTE 00:48.280 --> 00:50.040 align:start WAS FOUND TO HAVE SUNK NINE 00:50.040 --> 00:51.210 align:start INCHES. 00:51.210 --> 00:53.070 align:start THAT DISCOVERY LED TO A MORE 00:53.070 --> 00:55.040 align:start THAN MONTH-LONG CLOSURE OF A 00:55.040 --> 00:56.190 align:start 37-MILE STRETCH OF HEAVILY 00:56.230 --> 00:59.230 align:start TRAFFICKED HIGHWAY AND 00:59.230 --> 01:01.060 align:start PROMPTED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT 01:01.060 --> 01:02.080 align:start THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MIGHT DO 01:02.080 --> 01:03.180 align:start LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE 01:03.180 --> 01:05.270 align:start FUNDING SOLUTION. 01:05.270 --> 01:07.060 align:start GOVERNOR PENCE BROACHED THE 01:07.060 --> 01:08.160 align:start ISSUE FIRST WHEN HE ANNOUNCED 01:08.160 --> 01:09.100 align:start HIS OWN ROAD FUNDING PROPOSAL 01:09.100 --> 01:11.030 align:start IN OCTOBER. 01:11.030 --> 01:12.130 align:start IT WOULD SPEND A BILLION 01:12.130 --> 01:13.070 align:start DOLLARS ON ROAD AND BRIDGE 01:13.070 --> 01:13.290 align:start IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE NEXT 01:13.290 --> 01:16.020 align:start FOOR YYARS. 01:16.020 --> 01:17.220 align:start THE PLAN WOULD BE PAID FOR, IN 01:17.220 --> 01:19.110 align:start PART, BY PULLING FROM THE 01:19.110 --> 01:20.220 align:start STATE'S EXCESS RESERVES. 01:20.220 --> 01:22.090 align:start IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE 01:23.070 --> 01:26.070 align:start BORROWING ABOUT A QUARTER OF 01:26.070 --> 01:27.010 align:start THE PROPOSED FUNDING THROUGH A 01:27.010 --> 01:27.250 align:start 240 MILLION-DOLLAR BOND ISSUE. 01:27.250 --> 01:28.180 align:start THE PLAN HAS BEEN TAKEN UP IN 01:28.180 --> 01:30.090 align:start THE SENATE. 01:30.090 --> 01:32.060 align:start HOUSE REPUBLICANS, HOWEVER, 01:32.060 --> 01:32.280 align:start HAVE PROPOSED A COMPETING 01:32.280 --> 01:34.200 align:start ROADS PLAN. 01:34.200 --> 01:36.070 align:start IT WOULD INCREASE THE STATE 01:36.290 --> 01:39.290 align:start GASOLINE TAX, WHICH HASN'T 01:39.290 --> 01:40.230 align:start BEEN RAISED IN OVER A DECADE, 01:40.230 --> 01:41.160 align:start AS WELL AS THE CIGARETTE TAX. 01:41.160 --> 01:43.170 align:start HOUSE SPEAKER BRIAN BOSMA HAS 01:43.170 --> 01:45.000 align:start CALLED THE PLAN "RESPONSIBLE, 01:45.000 --> 01:47.180 align:start COMPREHENSIVE AND 01:47.180 --> 01:49.030 align:start SUSTAINABLE," AND HE SAYS IT 01:49.030 --> 01:50.020 align:start WOULD FUND THE STATE'S 01:50.020 --> 01:50.260 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE BEYOND THE FOUR 01:50.260 --> 01:51.140 align:start YEARS PROPOSED BY THE 01:51.140 --> 01:52.130 align:start GOVERNOR. 01:52.130 --> 01:53.180 align:start IT'S UNCLEAR, THOUGH, WHETHER 01:53.180 --> 01:55.000 align:start THE GOVERNOR COULD STOMACH A 01:55.000 --> 01:56.120 align:start TAX INCREASE TO PAY FOR ROAD 01:56.120 --> 01:57.260 align:start FUNDING -- SOMETHING HE 01:57.260 --> 01:59.050 align:start MENTIONED EARLIER THIS YEAR 01:59.050 --> 01:59.280 align:start DURING THE STATE OF THE STATE 01:59.280 --> 02:01.060 align:start ADDRESS. 02:06.050 --> 02:09.050 align:start IN THE BANK AND YOU GOT THENEY%- 02:09.050 --> 02:09.280 align:start BEST CREDIT RATING IN AMERICA, 02:09.280 --> 02:10.210 align:start THE LAST PLACE YOU SHOULD LOOK 02:10.210 --> 02:11.140 align:start TO PAY FOR ROADS AND BRIDGES 02:11.140 --> 02:12.080 align:start IS THE WALLETS AND POCKETBOOKS 02:12.080 --> 02:12.290 align:start OF HARD-WORKING HOOSIERS. 02:12.290 --> 02:14.100 align:start LET'S INVEST IN OUR ROADS, 02:14.100 --> 02:15.160 align:start LET'S MAINTAIN THE CROSSROADS 02:15.160 --> 02:16.230 align:start AF AMERICA, AND LET'S DO IT 02:17.290 --> 02:20.290 align:start WITHOUT RAISING TAXES. 02:20.290 --> 02:22.050 align:start IT'S UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT 02:22.050 --> 02:23.040 align:start WHICH PLAN, IF EITHER, WILL 02:23.070 --> 02:26.070 align:start MAKE IT TO THE GOVERNOR'S 02:26.070 --> 02:27.000 align:start DESK, AND WHETHER OR NOT HE'D 02:27.000 --> 02:28.150 align:start SIGN IT ONCE IT GOT THERE, BUT 02:28.150 --> 02:29.180 align:start WITH BOTH PLANS POISED TO MAKE 02:29.180 --> 02:30.150 align:start IT UT OF COMMITTEE, IT IS 02:30.150 --> 02:32.140 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING HAS 02:32.140 --> 02:34.110 align:start ONLY JUST BEGIN. 02:34.110 --> 02:36.050 align:start FOR "INDIANA LAWMAKERS," I'M 02:36.050 --> 02:38.150 align:start CHRISTOPHER AYERS. 02:38.150 --> 02:39.250 align:start THANKS, CHRISTOPHER. 02:39.250 --> 02:41.120 align:start BACK IN A MOMENT WITH OUR 02:41.120 --> 02:42.030 align:start WEEKLY ROUND TABLE. 02:42.030 --> 02:43.250 align:start "INDIANA LAWMAKERS" -- FROM 03:15.000 --> 03:16.040 align:start IN A WAY, LAWMAKERS BEGAN 03:16.040 --> 03:16.220 align:start THE 2016 SESSION AT THE 03:16.220 --> 03:17.130 align:start POLITICAL EQUIVALENT OF A 03:17.130 --> 03:18.020 align:start CCOWDED ALL-WAY STOP. 03:18.020 --> 03:18.230 align:start EVERYONE WAS IN THE SAME 03:18.230 --> 03:19.160 align:start PLACE, MORE OR LESS, BECAUSE 03:19.160 --> 03:20.050 align:start OF THE NEAR-UNIVERSAL 03:20.050 --> 03:20.290 align:start RECOGNITION THAT SOMETHING HAD 03:20.290 --> 03:21.210 align:start TO BE DONE ABOUT THE STATE'S 03:21.210 --> 03:22.190 align:start AGING ROADS AND BRIDGES. 03:22.190 --> 03:24.160 align:start FROM THERE, HOWEVER, LAWMAKERS 03:24.160 --> 03:26.170 align:start HAVE ACCELERATED IN MULTIPLE 03:26.170 --> 03:27.070 align:start DIRECTIONS IN REGARD TO 03:27.070 --> 03:27.260 align:start FUNDING THE NECESSARY 03:27.260 --> 03:29.220 align:start IMPROVEMENTS. 03:29.220 --> 03:30.270 align:start SOME ARE STEERING TOWARD 03:30.270 --> 03:31.160 align:start BORROWING THE MONEY. 03:31.160 --> 03:32.060 align:start SOME ARE ON THE ROADDTO 03:32.060 --> 03:33.110 align:start RAISING TAXES. 03:33.110 --> 03:34.100 align:start AND OTHERS ARE HEADING 03:34.100 --> 03:35.150 align:start STRAIGHT TOWARD TAPPING THE 03:35.150 --> 03:37.120 align:start STATE'S BUDGET RESERVES. 03:37.120 --> 03:38.150 align:start THINK YOU NEED A GPS TO KEEP 03:45.160 --> 03:48.160 align:start TRACK OF IT ALL? 03:48.160 --> 03:49.090 align:start NAH, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING FAR 03:49.090 --> 03:50.000 align:start BETTER -- THE EXPERT PANEL 03:50.000 --> 03:50.180 align:start THAT JOINS ME TODAY. 03:50.180 --> 03:51.120 align:start REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE ED 03:51.120 --> 03:52.020 align:start SOLIDAY OF VALPARAISO, 03:52.020 --> 03:52.230 align:start CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE ROADS 03:52.230 --> 03:53.150 align:start AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. 03:53.150 --> 03:54.080 align:start DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE DAN 03:54.080 --> 03:55.000 align:start FORESTAL OF INDIANAPOLIS, 03:55.000 --> 03:55.220 align:start RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF 03:55.220 --> 03:56.090 align:start THAT AME PANEL. 03:56.090 --> 03:57.180 align:start FISHERS MAYOR SCOTT FADNESS, 03:57.180 --> 03:59.060 align:start CHAIRMAN OF THE INDIANA 03:59.060 --> 04:00.160 align:start ASSOCIATION OF CIIIES AND 04:02.290 --> 04:05.290 align:start TOWNS' LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. 04:05.290 --> 04:06.210 align:start AND JUSTIN STEVENS, STATE 04:06.210 --> 04:07.120 align:start DIRECTOR OF AMERICANS FOR 04:07.120 --> 04:08.040 align:start PROSPERITY, A CONSERVATIVE, 04:08.040 --> 04:08.280 align:start ANTITAX ADVOCACY GROUP FOUNDED 04:08.280 --> 04:09.270 align:start BY BILLIONAIRE BROTHERS DAVID 04:11.120 --> 04:14.120 align:start AND CHARLES KOCH. 04:14.120 --> 04:15.240 align:start AND I THANK YOU ALL FOO 04:15.240 --> 04:16.270 align:start TRAVELING THE ROADWAYS TO GET 04:16.270 --> 04:18.170 align:start HERE FOR THIS TAPING. 04:18.170 --> 04:19.180 align:start ED SOLIDAY, WHAT IS THE 04:23.150 --> 04:26.150 align:start FLIPPANT, BUT WHAT'S MOREADS I%- 04:26.150 --> 04:27.240 align:start DANGEROUS POLITICAL POTHOLES 04:27.240 --> 04:29.220 align:start OR THE ACTUAL POTHOLES. 04:29.220 --> 04:31.160 align:start I WOULD RATHER DEAL WITH 04:31.160 --> 04:33.170 align:start POLIIICAL POTHOLES THAN ROAD 04:33.170 --> 04:33.290 align:start POTHOLES. 04:33.290 --> 04:36.180 align:start WE BEGAN FIVE YEARS TO THE 04:36.180 --> 04:37.130 align:start ASPECT QUESTION AND QUITE 04:37.130 --> 04:39.260 align:start FRANKLY, IN 2013 WE PASSED A 04:39.260 --> 04:42.170 align:start BILL THAT TOLD INDOT TO HIRE A 04:42.170 --> 04:44.090 align:start CONSULTANT AN AND TELL US, ONE, 04:44.090 --> 04:46.060 align:start AAL OF THE WAYS TO FUND ROADS 04:46.090 --> 04:49.090 align:start USING A METRIC THAT EVERYONE 04:49.090 --> 04:52.050 align:start COULD BE USED TO COMPARE TO 04:52.050 --> 04:52.220 align:start OTHER STAAES. 04:52.220 --> 04:54.290 align:start OOT OF THAT STUDY INDIANA WAS 04:54.290 --> 04:56.140 align:start IN THE LOWER THIRD OF THE 04:56.140 --> 04:56.260 align:start NATION. 04:56.290 --> 04:59.290 align:start AND LOOKING AT A REASONED 05:00.160 --> 05:03.160 align:start STUDY IN MANY AREAS, WE ARE 05:03.160 --> 05:06.130 align:start 24th IN ROAD MILES AND WELL 05:06.130 --> 05:07.240 align:start BELOW 30th AND SOMETIMES 05:10.070 --> 05:13.070 align:start 45th IN EACH OF THE METRICS, 05:13.070 --> 05:15.070 align:start SO WE ARE THE CROSSROADS OF 05:15.070 --> 05:16.280 align:start AMERICA, WE GET HUGE WEAA ON 05:16.280 --> 05:18.220 align:start OUR STATE HIGHWAYS FROM 05:18.220 --> 05:20.220 align:start 18-WHEEL TRUCKS AND SO FORTH. 05:20.220 --> 05:23.130 align:start SO WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO. 05:23.130 --> 05:25.120 align:start NOW, LAST YEAR, THOUGH, WAS 05:25.120 --> 05:27.070 align:start A BUDGET YEAR AND EARRY ON, 05:27.070 --> 05:28.280 align:start SAY LAST SPRING, I DON'T THINK 05:28.280 --> 05:31.210 align:start FOLKS NECESSARILY SAW THIS ON 05:31.210 --> 05:32.210 align:start THE RADAR. 05:32.210 --> 05:33.150 align:start IT HAS BEEN GROWING. 05:33.150 --> 05:36.000 align:start WE BEGAN FIVE YEARS AGO IN THE 05:36.000 --> 05:38.030 align:start COMMITTEE WITH A SUMMER STUDY 05:38.030 --> 05:38.160 align:start COMMITTEE. 05:38.160 --> 05:41.090 align:start CARL BROWNING, WHO WAS 05:41.090 --> 05:43.060 align:start COMMISSIONER, THEN, LAST YEAR, 05:43.060 --> 05:44.060 align:start TESTIFYING BEFORE OUR 05:44.060 --> 05:46.060 align:start COMMITTEE, OUR JOINT STUDY 05:46.060 --> 05:47.240 align:start COMMITTEE, BEFORE WAYS AND 05:47.240 --> 05:50.070 align:start MEANS, SAID THAT HE NEEDED 05:50.180 --> 05:53.180 align:start BETWEEN 250 AND $300 MILLION, 05:53.180 --> 05:54.180 align:start ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, EVERY YEAR 05:54.180 --> 05:56.180 align:start JUST TO STOP THE DECLINE IN 05:56.180 --> 05:57.090 align:start OUR ROADS. 05:57.090 --> 05:59.190 align:start JUST TT STOP THE DECLINE. 05:59.190 --> 06:01.270 align:start SO WE KNEW IT WAS THEREE 06:01.270 --> 06:04.150 align:start THE ISSUE WAS LAST YEAR THERE 06:04.150 --> 06:06.020 align:start WERE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON 06:06.020 --> 06:06.200 align:start THE AGENDA. 06:06.200 --> 06:08.170 align:start WE WANTED TO GET EDUCATION 06:08.170 --> 06:09.080 align:start TAKEN CARE OF. 06:09.080 --> 06:10.290 align:start AND THE SPEAKER WAS SAYING 06:10.290 --> 06:12.050 align:start EVEN LAST YEAR THIS WOULD BE 06:14.100 --> 06:17.100 align:start THE YEAR OF INFRASTRUCTURE. 06:17.100 --> 06:18.110 align:start WWLL, AND FORESTAL YOU AND 06:18.110 --> 06:19.080 align:start OTHER DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN 06:19.260 --> 06:22.260 align:start -ABANGING THE DRUMS ABOUT THE 06:22.260 --> 06:24.200 align:start CONDITION OF ROADWAYS 06:24.200 --> 06:26.100 align:start ESPECIALLY LAST SUMMER WITH 06:26.100 --> 06:27.150 align:start THE SNARLING IN WEST LAFAYETTE 06:27.150 --> 06:29.140 align:start WITH THE SINKING BRIDGE AND 06:29.140 --> 06:30.080 align:start RESULTANT DETOURS. 06:30.080 --> 06:32.190 align:start DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR CAUCUS 06:33.160 --> 06:36.160 align:start HAS BROUGHT TO BRING ABOUT 06:36.160 --> 06:37.190 align:start MORE MEDIA FOCUSSON THIS 06:37.190 --> 06:37.290 align:start ISSUE? 06:37.290 --> 06:39.010 align:start I WOULD SAY THAT. 06:39.010 --> 06:41.040 align:start AND DEMOCRATS REALLY ARE THE 06:41.040 --> 06:43.040 align:start REASON THIS ISSUE IS PROBABLY 06:43.040 --> 06:45.220 align:start NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF WHAT 06:45.220 --> 06:47.120 align:start THE LEGISLATURE'S LOOKING AT 06:47.120 --> 06:48.100 align:start RIGHT NOW. 06:48.100 --> 06:50.040 align:start YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM MY 06:50.040 --> 06:50.270 align:start PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD HAVE 06:50.270 --> 06:52.280 align:start LIKED TO SEE SOMETHING BE 06:52.280 --> 06:54.160 align:start ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET OR IN 06:54.160 --> 06:56.190 align:start THE BUDGET SESSION. 06:56.190 --> 06:58.100 align:start INDIANA'S -- INDIANA'S KNOWN 06:58.100 --> 06:59.190 align:start FOR ITS ROADS AND RIGHT NOW 06:59.190 --> 07:02.060 align:start WE'RE NOT LIVINGGUP TO THE 07:02.060 --> 07:02.220 align:start RESPONSIBILITY. 07:02.220 --> 07:04.030 align:start THE ROADS ARE NOT IN GREAT 07:04.030 --> 07:05.060 align:start CONDITION, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE 07:05.060 --> 07:07.280 align:start GENERALLY IS NOT IN GREAT 07:07.280 --> 07:09.000 align:start CONDITION AND IT'S SOMETHING 07:09.000 --> 07:10.190 align:start THAT WE ARE GOING TO AVE TO 07:10.190 --> 07:11.000 align:start ADDRESS. 07:11.000 --> 07:12.220 align:start IT'S GOOD THAT WE ALL AGREE ON 07:12.220 --> 07:13.220 align:start THAT PORTION OF IT. 07:13.220 --> 07:16.130 align:start THE QUESTIIN IS HOW DO WE GO 07:16.130 --> 07:17.180 align:start FORWARD WITH IT. 07:17.180 --> 07:19.070 align:start MAYOR, HOW IMPORTANT IS 07:19.070 --> 07:20.240 align:start ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND ROAD 07:20.240 --> 07:22.050 align:start REPAIRS IN MAYORS ANN CITIES 07:22.050 --> 07:23.100 align:start THAT ARE SMALL. 07:23.100 --> 07:25.020 align:start SSRE, MONDAY 07:25.020 --> 07:25.270 align:start ACROSS-THE-BOARD NUMBER ONE 07:25.270 --> 07:27.150 align:start PRRORITY IS IMPROVEMENT IN 07:27.150 --> 07:28.120 align:start TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 07:28.120 --> 07:30.060 align:start AND SO WE'RE WATCHING 07:30.060 --> 07:31.060 align:start MR. SOLIDAY'S BBLL VERY 07:31.060 --> 07:32.090 align:start CLOSELY IN THE HOUSE, WE'RE 07:32.090 --> 07:33.140 align:start LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN 07:33.140 --> 07:35.290 align:start TO ALL OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES- 07:35.290 --> 07:37.100 align:start ABOUT WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO 07:37.100 --> 07:38.150 align:start FIND A SUSTAINABLE PLAN FOR 07:38.150 --> 07:39.270 align:start THE FUTURE OF OUR 07:39.270 --> 07:40.290 align:start TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 07:40.290 --> 07:42.150 align:start DO YOU THINK MOST MAYORS 07:42.150 --> 07:44.030 align:start ARE SAYING THAT THEY SEE THE 07:44.030 --> 07:45.180 align:start PROBLEMS NOW OR IS THIS MORE 07:45.180 --> 07:47.180 align:start OF A PRECAUTION THAT, THE 07:47.180 --> 07:49.060 align:start RECOGNITION THAT MANY OF THE 07:49.060 --> 07:50.150 align:start BRIDGES, MANY OF THE ROADS 07:50.150 --> 07:51.150 align:start ARE, IN FACT, AGING AND THAT 07:51.150 --> 07:52.180 align:start THIS WILL BE A CHALLENGE IN 07:52.180 --> 07:54.010 align:start THE YEARS TO COME? 07:54.010 --> 07:55.270 align:start YEAH, WE TEND NOT TO BE 07:55.270 --> 07:58.060 align:start ALARMIST ABOUT THE ISSUE BUT 07:58.060 --> 07:59.200 align:start WE DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AA% 07:59.200 --> 08:01.230 align:start THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT 08:01.230 --> 08:03.020 align:start THE LONG--ERM VIABILITY ABOUT 08:03.020 --> 08:04.110 align:start OUR FUNDINGGISSUES. 08:04.110 --> 08:06.190 align:start MAYOR AT THE CURRENT FUNDING%- 08:06.190 --> 08:08.080 align:start LEVEL WE WOULD REPAVE OUR 08:08.080 --> 08:09.240 align:start ROADS ONCE EVERY 72 YEARS 08:09.240 --> 08:11.170 align:start WHICH IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE 08:11.170 --> 08:11.270 align:start MODEL. 08:11.270 --> 08:14.110 align:start OUR ROADS MAY BE IN DECENT 08:14.110 --> 08:15.170 align:start CONDITION TTDAY BUT THE 08:15.230 --> 08:18.230 align:start LIKELIHOOD THEY WILL BE IN THE 08:18.230 --> 08:20.110 align:start 15, 25 YEARS UNDER CURRENT 08:20.110 --> 08:22.180 align:start FUNDING LEVELS IS UNLIKELY. 08:22.180 --> 08:23.120 align:start WE NEED TO HAVE THIS 08:23.120 --> 08:24.110 align:start DISCUSSION TOAD. 08:24.110 --> 08:25.230 align:start JUSTIN, YOUR ORGANIZATION, 08:25.230 --> 08:27.250 align:start YOU WOULD JUST AS SOON NOT TO 08:27.250 --> 08:30.200 align:start HAVE A GOT OF GOVERNMENTAL 08:30.200 --> 08:32.010 align:start INTRUSION, BIG SPENDING, BUT 08:32.010 --> 08:33.280 align:start WOULD E ACKNOWLEDGE A 08:33.280 --> 08:34.230 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE ESPECIALLY 08:34.230 --> 08:36.220 align:start WHAT'' TOUTED AS THE 08:36.220 --> 08:38.130 align:start CROSSROADS OF AMERICA IS 08:38.130 --> 08:39.040 align:start IMPORTANT? 08:39.040 --> 08:40.000 align:start CERTAINLY, I THINK ANYONE 08:40.000 --> 08:40.280 align:start WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. 08:40.280 --> 08:43.190 align:start WE THINK THAT PROVIDING THE 08:43.190 --> 08:45.040 align:start APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE IS 08:45.040 --> 08:46.220 align:start A BASIC CORE FUNCTION OF 08:46.220 --> 08:47.060 align:start GOVERNMENT. 08:47.060 --> 08:48.100 align:start WE DO THINK THAT SHOUUD BE 08:48.100 --> 08:49.190 align:start TAKEN CARE OF. 08:49.190 --> 08:51.000 align:start WHAT WE MAY DIFFER IS HOW 08:51.000 --> 08:52.180 align:start SHOULD WE DO THAT AND WHAT ARE 08:52.180 --> 08:53.180 align:start OUR PRIORITIES. 08:53.180 --> 08:56.100 align:start THAT IS A CORE FUNCTION OF 08:56.100 --> 08:56.240 align:start GOVERNMENT. 08:56.240 --> 08:57.190 align:start WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAA 08:57.190 --> 08:58.250 align:start MAYBE AREN'T AND HOW DO WE 08:58.250 --> 09:01.270 align:start NNED TO PRIORITIZE OUR STATE 09:01.270 --> 09:03.240 align:start BUDGET FOR THAT. 09:03.240 --> 09:04.270 align:start THE GOVERNOR JUMPED INTO 09:04.270 --> 09:06.210 align:start THE FRAY, TAPPING THE RESERVES 09:06.210 --> 09:08.180 align:start TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AND ALSO 09:08.180 --> 09:10.200 align:start BORROWING OR BONDING, I GUESS 09:10.200 --> 09:12.000 align:start AS IT'S MORE PLEASANT TO SAY, 09:12.000 --> 09:14.080 align:start WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THAT BILL? 09:14.080 --> 09:15.290 align:start WELL, FIRST OF ALL -- 09:15.290 --> 09:17.120 align:start I SHOULD OT SPEAK ABOUT IT 09:18.110 --> 09:21.110 align:start IN PAST TENSE, INCIDENTALLEY, 09:21.110 --> 09:23.200 align:start IT'S STILL ALIVE AND WELL. 09:23.200 --> 09:25.020 align:start FIRST, WE'RE GLAD HE 09:25.020 --> 09:26.060 align:start RECOGNIZES IT'S A PROBLEM. 09:26.210 --> 09:29.210 align:start YEAR CREATES $400 MILLION.RST 09:29.210 --> 09:31.140 align:start BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN OVERFUNDING 09:31.140 --> 09:32.070 align:start MEDICAID FOR A WHILE. 09:33.050 --> 09:36.050 align:start IN THE SECOND YEAR, IT ONLY 09:36.110 --> 09:39.110 align:start CREATES MONEY IF THHRE IS MORE 09:39.110 --> 09:41.170 align:start REVENUE THAN THE BUDGET AND 09:41.170 --> 09:44.170 align:start THE RESERVES ARE OVER 11 1/2%. 09:45.170 --> 09:48.170 align:start SO F YOU LOOK AT THE FISSAL 09:48.170 --> 09:50.050 align:start DELIVERED BY LEGISLATIVE 09:50.050 --> 09:51.050 align:start SERVICES, THEY'RE ALL ZEROS, 09:51.050 --> 09:53.150 align:start NO MONEY, IT'S UNPREDICTABLE. 09:53.150 --> 09:55.140 align:start BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A RECESSION 09:55.140 --> 09:58.020 align:start OF ANY KIND OR A DIP IN THE 09:58.020 --> 10:00.080 align:start ECONOMY AND WE FUND THOSE 10:00.080 --> 10:01.290 align:start BASICS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR 10:03.080 --> 10:06.080 align:start BUDGET, HOW LEAN IT'S BEEN 10:06.080 --> 10:07.200 align:start AINCE GOVERNOR DANIELS WAS 10:07.260 --> 10:10.260 align:start HERE AND HOW WELL MANAGED IT'S 10:11.220 --> 10:14.220 align:start BEEN 54% OF IT OR SO IS K-12 10:14.220 --> 10:16.070 align:start EDUCATION, ANOTHER 11% IS 10:16.070 --> 10:16.220 align:start HIGHER ED. 10:16.220 --> 10:19.040 align:start SO YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY 10:19.040 --> 10:21.050 align:start MONEY FOR A GROWING PROBLEM 10:21.050 --> 10:22.220 align:start AFTER THEEFIRST YEAR. 10:22.220 --> 10:24.150 align:start SECOND OF ALL, A NUMBER OF US 10:24.150 --> 10:26.120 align:start DO NOT WANT TO PASS THE DEBT 10:26.120 --> 10:28.040 align:start FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ON TO 10:28.040 --> 10:29.190 align:start OUR CHILDREN SO WE DON'T WANT 10:29.190 --> 10:31.100 align:start A BOND. 10:31.100 --> 10:33.100 align:start TODAY, ON A BONDING THAT WAS 10:34.240 --> 10:37.240 align:start DONE IN 1998, WE'RE PAYIIG 10:37.240 --> 10:38.130 align:start $100 MILLION A YEAR. 10:38.130 --> 10:40.180 align:start AND THOSE DEDICATED SOURCES 10:40.180 --> 10:42.100 align:start NOW DON'T PAY THAT 10:42.100 --> 10:43.070 align:start 100 MILLION, SO WE'RE HAVING 10:43.070 --> 10:45.000 align:start TO DIP INTO OUR GENNRAL 10:46.120 --> 10:49.120 align:start REVENUES TO PAY THROUGH 2029 10:49.120 --> 10:51.060 align:start FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S 10:51.060 --> 10:52.190 align:start COMING APART. 10:52.190 --> 10:55.180 align:start WE DON'T AGGEE. 10:55.180 --> 10:57.120 align:start IT'S LIKE BUYING A HOME AND 10:57.120 --> 10:58.140 align:start MORTGAGING THE CARPEE FOR 30 10:58.140 --> 11:00.200 align:start YEARS WHEN IT LASTS 15. 11:00.200 --> 11:02.040 align:start DAN FORESTAL, YOUR CAUCUS 11:02.040 --> 11:03.140 align:start MAY NOT LIKE NECCSSARILY THE 11:03.140 --> 11:04.080 align:start BORROWINN BUT I THINK IT'S 11:04.080 --> 11:05.130 align:start CLEAR YOU DO LIKE THE NOTION 11:05.130 --> 11:06.180 align:start OF TAPPING THE RESERVES. 11:06.180 --> 11:07.270 align:start THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN TO PUT, 11:07.270 --> 11:09.080 align:start YOU KNOW, A PORTION OF OUR 11:09.080 --> 11:11.080 align:start ROADS ON A CREDIT CARD IS JUST 11:11.080 --> 11:13.080 align:start FISCALLY NOT RESPONSIBLE, IT'S 11:13.080 --> 11:14.190 align:start NOT SMART PUBLIC POLICY, I 11:14.190 --> 11:16.090 align:start THINK WE'LL BE PAYING IT OFF 11:16.090 --> 11:17.200 align:start LONG AFTER THE ROADS HAVE 11:17.200 --> 11:18.140 align:start DETERIORATED AND GONE. 11:18.140 --> 11:19.120 align:start WE'LL STILL BE PAYING THE 11:19.120 --> 11:20.110 align:start BONDS OFF. 11:20.110 --> 11:21.290 align:start IN FACT, UR CHILDRRN WILL BE 11:21.290 --> 11:23.020 align:start PAYING THOSE BONDS OFF. 11:23.020 --> 11:24.260 align:start BUT WHERE WE DO AGREE WITH THE 11:24.260 --> 11:26.020 align:start GOVERNOR IS THAT NNW IS NOT 11:26.020 --> 11:28.260 align:start THE TIME TO RAISE TAXES ON 11:28.260 --> 11:30.250 align:start HOOSIERS, I MEAN, WE -- THEE% 11:30.250 --> 11:33.200 align:start INDIANA HAS LAGGED BEHIND IN 11:33.200 --> 11:34.290 align:start MEDIAN HOUSEHOLDDINCOME PER 11:34.290 --> 11:35.260 align:start CAPITA INCOME IN TERMS OF THE 11:35.260 --> 11:38.130 align:start REST OF THE NATION, WE ARE 11:38.130 --> 11:38.240 align:start BEHIND. 11:38.240 --> 11:40.250 align:start AND UNTIL THOSE KINDS OF 11:40.250 --> 11:43.250 align:start TRENDS TURN, HOW DEMOCRATS 11:43.250 --> 11:45.220 align:start FEEL TTAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS 11:45.220 --> 11:47.070 align:start ROLL UP OUR SLEEVEE AND LOOK 11:47.070 --> 11:49.070 align:start IN THE EXISTIIG BUDGET AND THE 11:49.070 --> 11:50.130 align:start SURPLUU, THE MONEY WE'VE 11:50.130 --> 11:51.070 align:start ALREADY COLLECTED FROM 11:51.070 --> 11:52.160 align:start TAXPAYERS TO FUND OUR 11:52.160 --> 11:53.020 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE. 11:53.020 --> 11:54.040 align:start THEN MAYBE WE MMVE ON AND TALK 11:54.040 --> 11:55.230 align:start ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU 11:55.230 --> 11:58.190 align:start SOME OF THE REALLY LONG-TERM, 11:58.190 --> 11:59.190 align:start LONG-LOOKING THINGS. 11:59.190 --> 12:01.200 align:start BUT BEFORE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, 12:01.200 --> 12:03.150 align:start -ACHECK THE COUCH CUSHIONS AND 12:03.150 --> 12:05.030 align:start REALLY SHAKEN THE TREESSAND 12:05.030 --> 12:07.000 align:start MADE SURE WE'VE EXHAUSTED 12:07.000 --> 12:08.210 align:start EVERY OTHER OPTION WE FEEL NNW 12:08.210 --> 12:10.090 align:start IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO RAISE 12:10.090 --> 12:10.190 align:start TAXES. 12:10.190 --> 12:12.060 align:start WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 12:12.060 --> 12:13.150 align:start AAXES, BELIEVE E, THIS IS AN 12:13.150 --> 12:14.090 align:start IMPORTANT PART OF THE 12:14.090 --> 12:15.180 align:start DISCUSSION BUT I GUESS, MAYOR, 12:15.180 --> 12:17.110 align:start YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS 12:17.110 --> 12:18.270 align:start THE STATE PROBABLY WERE ALSO 12:18.270 --> 12:20.080 align:start TROUBLED INITIALLY BY THE 12:20.080 --> 12:21.080 align:start NOTION THAT INITIAL 12:21.080 --> 12:22.050 align:start LEGISLATION THAT WAS PUT FORTH 12:22.050 --> 12:24.110 align:start BY THE GOVERNOR DEALT ONLY 12:24.110 --> 12:26.240 align:start WITH STATE-CONTROLLED ROADWAYS 12:27.000 --> 12:30.000 align:start NOT THOSE CONTROLLED BY 12:30.000 --> 12:31.060 align:start COUNTIES OR MUNICIPALITIES AND 12:31.060 --> 12:32.210 align:start THAT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF 12:32.210 --> 12:33.230 align:start ROADWAYS N THE STATE, IS IT 12:33.230 --> 12:35.210 align:start NOT? 12:35.210 --> 12:37.120 align:start THE GOVERNOR SUPPORTED 12:37.120 --> 12:39.180 align:start HERSHMAN'S BILL,,$30 BACK TO 12:39.180 --> 12:40.270 align:start LOCAL SO I THINK THERE IS SOME 12:40.270 --> 12:41.210 align:start RECOGNITION BY THH GOVERNOR 12:41.210 --> 12:42.270 align:start AND THE SENATE THAT THERE IS A 12:42.270 --> 12:44.170 align:start NEED TO GET MONNY BACK TO THE 12:44.170 --> 12:46.110 align:start LOCALS TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE. 12:46.110 --> 12:47.190 align:start FOCUSING ON THE STATE WOULD 12:47.190 --> 12:49.050 align:start HAVE BEEN A NONSTARTER. 12:49.050 --> 12:49.260 align:start IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 12:49.260 --> 12:50.240 align:start DIFFICULT FOR US. 12:50.240 --> 12:51.200 align:start THERE ARE CHALLENGES AT THE 12:51.200 --> 12:53.260 align:start LOCAL LEVEL THAT ENEED TO DEAL 12:53.260 --> 12:56.170 align:start WITH AND THAT $430 MILLION IS 12:56.170 --> 12:58.110 align:start A SIGNIFICANT ONE-TIME TO GIVE 12:58.110 --> 13:00.100 align:start BACK TO THE LOCALS IN TERMS OF 13:00.100 --> 13:01.240 align:start THE LOCAL INCOME TAXES. 13:01.240 --> 13:03.090 align:start I THINK THERE'S A RECOONITION 13:03.090 --> 13:04.130 align:start BY THE GOVERNOR THERE'S A NEED 13:04.130 --> 13:06.100 align:start AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AS WELL, IT 13:06.100 --> 13:07.160 align:start JUST WASN'T II THE INITIAL 13:07.160 --> 13:09.070 align:start CONCEPT OF THE BILL. 13:09.070 --> 13:11.110 align:start THAT'S GIVEN BBCK THE LOCAL 13:11.110 --> 13:13.010 align:start INCOME TAXES TAXES THAT THE 13:13.010 --> 13:15.070 align:start STATE IS HOLDING FROM THE 13:15.070 --> 13:15.180 align:start LOCALS. 13:15.180 --> 13:16.190 align:start IT ISN'T A HARD SELL. 13:16.190 --> 13:18.070 align:start WHEN WE TALK TO HOOSIERS AND 13:18.070 --> 13:19.250 align:start WE'VE ADE TENSE OF THOUSANDS 13:20.040 --> 13:23.040 align:start OF PHONE CALLS, I THINK IT'S A 13:23.040 --> 13:24.280 align:start HARD SELLLTO TELL HOOSIERS 13:24.280 --> 13:27.100 align:start AHAT WE HAVE $2 BILLION IN 13:27.100 --> 13:28.160 align:start RESERVE, THAT OUR REVENUE 13:28.160 --> 13:30.070 align:start INCREASED BY $750 MILLION LAST 13:30.070 --> 13:32.140 align:start FISCAL YEAR ALONE, 600 MILLION 13:32.140 --> 13:34.200 align:start OF THAT WAS IN INDIVIDUAL 13:34.200 --> 13:37.000 align:start INCOME TAXES AND SALES TAX 13:37.000 --> 13:38.090 align:start REVENUE, O THEN ASK THEM TO 13:38.090 --> 13:39.070 align:start PAY MORE. 13:39.070 --> 13:41.240 align:start I THINK IT'S A HARD SELL. 13:41.240 --> 13:42.280 align:start SO THEY HAVE THEIR WORK CUT 13:42.280 --> 13:45.200 align:start OUT FOR THEM AS FAR AS SELLING 13:45.200 --> 13:46.190 align:start THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE 13:47.060 --> 13:50.060 align:start GOING TO KEEP IN EFFECT PEOPLE 13:50.060 --> 13:52.160 align:start OF OUR VIEW ON IT. 13:52.160 --> 13:53.280 align:start SELL JUSTIN STEVENS ON IT 13:53.280 --> 13:56.220 align:start AND SOLIDAY ON IT. 13:56.220 --> 13:58.090 align:start I TRY NOT TO WORRY ABOUT 13:58.090 --> 14:00.020 align:start HIM TOO MUCH. 14:00.020 --> 14:00.210 align:start C'MON. 14:00.210 --> 14:02.150 align:start WE ---THIS IS NOT NEW TO 14:02.150 --> 14:02.240 align:start US. 14:02.240 --> 14:04.190 align:start FIVE YEARS.WORKING ON IT FOR 14:04.190 --> 14:05.290 align:start WE HAVE A NUMBER OF POLLS. 14:05.290 --> 14:08.080 align:start I'VE NEVER SEEN IT LIKE THIS. 14:08.080 --> 14:09.030 align:start ACROSS AMERICA THERE'S 14:09.090 --> 14:12.090 align:start 65% OF AMERICANS AND ABOUT THE 14:12.090 --> 14:13.230 align:start SAME AMOUNT OF HOOSIERS SAY 14:13.230 --> 14:15.270 align:start SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. 14:15.270 --> 14:18.020 align:start UP UNTIL THE LAST YEAR AND A 14:18.020 --> 14:19.290 align:start HALF, ONNY 30% WERE WILLING TO 14:21.280 --> 14:24.280 align:start PAY FOR IT IN ANY WAY. 14:24.280 --> 14:27.050 align:start TODAY WELL OVER 50% OF 14:27.050 --> 14:29.290 align:start HOOSIERS AND AT LEAST THREE 14:29.290 --> 14:32.090 align:start POLLS HAVE SAID WE ARE WILLING 14:32.090 --> 14:33.000 align:start TO PAY MORE. 14:33.000 --> 14:34.080 align:start WHAA'S THE DIIFERENCE, CANN% 14:34.080 --> 14:36.060 align:start YOU PINPOINT ONEETHING? 14:36.060 --> 14:36.230 align:start SURE. 14:36.230 --> 14:38.280 align:start PARTICULARLY IN YOUR AREA -- 14:38.280 --> 14:39.200 align:start WELL, EXACTLY..% 14:39.200 --> 14:42.050 align:start BUT ON THE DAY I SPOKE AT A 14:42.050 --> 14:43.230 align:start CONFERENCE,,WE HAD ANOTHHR 14:43.230 --> 14:45.010 align:start BRIDGE IN SOUTHERN INDIANA 14:45.010 --> 14:47.270 align:start HAVE PROBLEMS. 14:47.270 --> 14:49.260 align:start PEOPLE ARE -- CHIP AND SEALING 14:49.260 --> 14:52.170 align:start A LOT OF ROADS INSTEAD OF 14:52.170 --> 14:54.170 align:start PAVING THEM SO WE'RE SEEING 14:54.170 --> 14:55.100 align:start WINDSHIELDS BROKEN. 14:55.100 --> 14:58.050 align:start RIGHT NOW TODAY HOOSIERS SPEND 14:58.050 --> 15:00.250 align:start ABOUT $366 PER YEAR N 15:00.250 --> 15:02.010 align:start MAANTAIIIIG THEIR VEHHCLES 15:02.230 --> 15:05.230 align:start FROM DAAAGG FROM ROADS. 15:05.230 --> 15:07.190 align:start SO THEY'RE FEELING IT. 15:07.190 --> 15:10.180 align:start SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY 15:10.180 --> 15:12.220 align:start PLACE I HAVE SPOKEN -- AND 15:12.220 --> 15:14.070 align:start I'VE SPOKEN A LOT OF PLACES -- 15:14.070 --> 15:15.280 align:start WHEN I SAY HOW MANY OF YOU ARE 15:15.280 --> 15:17.120 align:start WILLING TO PAY A NICKEL MORE 15:19.000 --> 15:22.000 align:start GALLON, THAT'S $25 PER YEAR, PE- 15:22.210 --> 15:25.210 align:start IT'S ABOUT 5% THAT SAY NO. 15:25.210 --> 15:27.000 align:start WELL, YOU SPECULATED 15:27.000 --> 15:28.210 align:start UPFRONT YOU CAN'' CONVINCE 15:28.210 --> 15:31.150 align:start JUSTIN SSEVENS TO CHANGE HIS 15:32.120 --> 15:35.120 align:start HOW ABOUT YOURS, JUSTIN 15:38.170 --> 15:41.170 align:start FORESTALLDOES THAT RING TRUE? 15:41.170 --> 15:43.100 align:start SOLIDAY HAS WORKED ON A 15:43.100 --> 15:45.150 align:start BILL THAT HAVE A LOT OF GOOD 15:45.150 --> 15:46.180 align:start PROVISIONS BUT -- 15:46.180 --> 15:49.160 align:start YEAH.NEW THAT WAS COMING.%- 15:49.160 --> 15:51.020 align:start HE DID A NNCE JOB OF REALLY 15:51.020 --> 15:52.140 align:start TRYING TO SELL IT BUT, YOU 15:52.140 --> 15:53.280 align:start KNOW, LOOK, THE CORPORATE 15:53.280 --> 15:55.120 align:start INCOME TAX IS SET TO DECLLNE 15:55.120 --> 15:56.250 align:start ALMOST TO HALF OF WHAT IT IS 15:56.250 --> 15:58.000 align:start RIGHT NOW OVER THE NEXT COUPLE 15:58.000 --> 15:59.120 align:start OF YEARS. 15:59.120 --> 16:00.230 align:start SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK -- I 16:01.050 --> 16:04.050 align:start AGREE WITH JUSTIN IT IS RARE, 16:04.050 --> 16:05.260 align:start I WOULD HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT 16:05.260 --> 16:07.100 align:start AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY AND 16:07.100 --> 16:09.080 align:start DEMOCRATS AGREE THAT IT'S 16:09.080 --> 16:09.170 align:start NICE. 16:09.170 --> 16:12.100 align:start TRYING TO GET US TO AGREE. 16:12.100 --> 16:13.220 align:start THERE ARE SOMEEKOCH 16:13.220 --> 16:15.040 align:start BROTHERS FUNDING IN YOUR 16:15.040 --> 16:15.160 align:start CAMPAIGN. 16:15.160 --> 16:16.160 align:start YEAH, AND IT'S NICE TO 16:16.160 --> 16:19.070 align:start AGREE N SOME OO THESE PIECES. 16:19.070 --> 16:21.190 align:start BUT FOR AS LONG AS THE 16:21.190 --> 16:23.000 align:start CORPORATE INCOME TAX IS SET TO 16:23.000 --> 16:24.120 align:start GG TO ALMOST HALF OF WHAT IT 16:24.120 --> 16:25.220 align:start IS RIGHT NOW IT'S GOING TO BE 16:25.220 --> 16:27.080 align:start VERY HARD TO GO BACK AND TELL 16:27.080 --> 16:28.110 align:start AY CONSTITUENTS, BUT WE WANT 16:28.110 --> 16:30.030 align:start TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. 16:30.030 --> 16:30.280 align:start YOU KNOW, CORPORATIONS HAVE 16:30.280 --> 16:32.270 align:start HAD IT VERY, VERY WELL FOR A 16:32.270 --> 16:34.220 align:start VERY LONG TIME AND I LIKE 16:36.100 --> 16:39.100 align:start HAVING LOW TAXES FOR EVERYONE, 16:39.100 --> 16:40.130 align:start BUT, YYU KNOW, HAVING 16:40.130 --> 16:41.280 align:start CORPORATIONS' TAXES GO DOWN 16:41.280 --> 16:43.100 align:start WHILE HOOSIERS GO UP IT'S JUST 16:43.100 --> 16:44.250 align:start A NONSTARTTR FOR US. 16:44.250 --> 16:46.130 align:start THERE ARE ARIOUS 16:48.100 --> 16:51.100 align:start MECHANISMS THATTWOULD 16:51.100 --> 16:54.010 align:start INCREASE, SOLIDAY, INCREASE ON 16:54.010 --> 16:56.090 align:start GAS TAX, OFFSET DECLINE ON 16:56.090 --> 16:58.070 align:start MEDDCAID SPENDING, DOLLAR TAX 16:58.070 --> 16:59.150 align:start ON CIGARETTES. 17:02.260 --> 17:05.260 align:start BUT THERE'S MORE LATITUDE FOR 17:05.260 --> 17:06.120 align:start MUNICIPALITIES. 17:06.120 --> 17:06.230 align:start GOOD IDEA??% 17:06.230 --> 17:08.080 align:start IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GGVE US 17:08.080 --> 17:10.240 align:start TOOLS TO MAKE A DECISION T 17:10.240 --> 17:12.000 align:start THE LOCAL LEVEL WHETHER OR NOO 17:12.000 --> 17:13.220 align:start WE WANT TO INCREASE RESOURCES 17:13.220 --> 17:15.150 align:start AND WHHEHER OR NOT WE WANT TO 17:15.150 --> 17:17.240 align:start SAD THAT FEE OR TAX AT A LOCAL 17:17.240 --> 17:18.050 align:start LEVELS. 17:18.050 --> 17:19.180 align:start IT'S IMPEEATIVE FOR THE 17:19.180 --> 17:20.270 align:start LONG-TERMMVIABILITY OF OUR 17:23.090 --> 17:26.090 align:start APPLAUD IT FOR SOLIDAY TO GET 17:26.090 --> 17:27.040 align:start THAT DONE. 17:27.040 --> 17:28.070 align:start DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE 17:28.070 --> 17:29.210 align:start STOMACH TO HAVE IT. 17:29.210 --> 17:31.180 align:start -ATHEE'RE CLOSEST TO THE 17:31.180 --> 17:32.220 align:start CCTIZENRY AND TAXPAYERS AND 17:32.220 --> 17:33.040 align:start VOTERS. 17:33.040 --> 17:34.160 align:start DEPENNS WHICH CITY YOU'RE 17:34.160 --> 17:35.070 align:start TALKING ABOUT AAD THE 17:35.070 --> 17:36.010 align:start SITUATION THEY'RE IN. 17:36.010 --> 17:37.220 align:start THERE'S A VALUE PROPOSITION 17:37.220 --> 17:38.120 align:start CONVERSATION WITH THE 17:38.120 --> 17:39.230 align:start RESIDENTS HERE. 17:39.230 --> 17:41.190 align:start YOU CAN DDMONSTRATE HE VALUE 17:41.190 --> 17:43.030 align:start WHAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARR 17:43.030 --> 17:45.090 align:start GOING TO TO IMPROVE THEIR 17:45.090 --> 17:46.070 align:start INFRASTRUCTURE I THINK A LOT 17:46.070 --> 17:47.280 align:start OF RATIONAL HOOSIERS WOULL 17:47.280 --> 17:50.280 align:start LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW 17:50.280 --> 17:52.130 align:start WHAT, I'M WILLING TO PAY MORE. 17:52.130 --> 17:55.070 align:start JUSTEN DOES IT MATTER TO 17:56.280 --> 17:59.280 align:start -AYOU WHETHHR IT'S LEVIED AT THE 17:59.280 --> 18:01.030 align:start STATE LEVEL? 18:01.030 --> 18:03.090 align:start THE KEY HERE IT'S A LITTLE 18:03.090 --> 18:04.210 align:start BIT MISLEADING WHEN WE SAY 18:04.210 --> 18:06.260 align:start JUST A NICKEL MORE PER GALLON 18:07.000 --> 18:10.000 align:start BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO A CITY 18:10.000 --> 18:11.120 align:start LIKE JJFFERSONVILLE, WHERE 18:11.120 --> 18:12.270 align:start THEY DON'T HAVE A WHEEL TAX. 18:12.270 --> 18:14.090 align:start IF YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE AND A 18:14.090 --> 18:16.060 align:start FAMILY WHERE THEY BOTH DRIVE A 18:16.060 --> 18:18.260 align:start CAR, DRRVE TO WORK, IT COULD 18:20.230 --> 18:23.230 align:start BE A 250, $300 INCREASE, NOT 18:23.230 --> 18:26.140 align:start COUNTING IF THEY SMOKE 18:26.140 --> 18:28.020 align:start INCLUDES THE INCOME TAX, 18:28.020 --> 18:29.290 align:start DOUBLE WHEEL TAX, CITY 18:29.290 --> 18:30.240 align:start IMPLEMENTS ANOTTER WHEEL TAX 18:30.240 --> 18:32.020 align:start ON TOP OF THAT AND THEN 18:32.080 --> 18:35.080 align:start THEY'RE PAYING AN EXTRA $25 18:35.080 --> 18:36.290 align:start APIECE A YEAR FOR THEIR GAS, 18:36.290 --> 18:39.260 align:start II'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT 18:39.260 --> 18:41.110 align:start AMOUNT, ESPECIALLYYFOR -- 18:41.110 --> 18:42.220 align:start HOW DOES ONE FUND -- IF 18:42.220 --> 18:44.170 align:start IT'S A BILLION A YEAR THAT'SS% 18:44.260 --> 18:47.260 align:start NEEDED OR 300 ADDITIONAL, 1.5, 18:47.260 --> 18:50.240 align:start I'VE SEEN LOTS OF NUMBERS, HOW 18:50.240 --> 18:51.260 align:start DOES THAT GGT DONE? 18:51.260 --> 18:52.250 align:start T'S ABOUT PRIORITIES. 18:52.250 --> 18:53.290 align:start THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING 18:53.290 --> 18:55.030 align:start ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME. 18:55.030 --> 18:56.140 align:start WE'VE BEEN SPENDING 18:56.140 --> 18:58.110 align:start TRANSPORTATION MONEY FOR 18:58.110 --> 18:59.090 align:start GENERAL FUNDS PROJECTS. 18:59.090 --> 19:02.020 align:start THIS PAST YEAR IT WOULD HAVE 19:02.020 --> 19:02.270 align:start BEEN $350 MILLION A YEAR THAT 19:02.270 --> 19:05.080 align:start WAS DERIVED FROM SALES TAX ON 19:05.080 --> 19:06.160 align:start GASOLINE THAT COULD HAVE BBEN 19:06.160 --> 19:07.130 align:start SPENT ON TRANSPORTATION. 19:07.130 --> 19:08.130 align:start BUT IT HASN'' BEEN. 19:08.130 --> 19:10.210 align:start AND I WILL GIVE, YOU KNOW, 19:10.210 --> 19:12.040 align:start YESTERDAY REPRESENTATIVE BROWN 19:12.220 --> 19:15.220 align:start POINTED OUT THAA REPUBLICANS 19:16.250 --> 19:19.250 align:start ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE BACK 19:19.250 --> 19:21.010 align:start IN THE BILL HE WAS TALKING 19:21.010 --> 19:23.140 align:start ABOUT EARLIER AND CEETAIILY IT 19:23.140 --> 19:24.280 align:start IS A CREDIT TO THAT. 19:24.280 --> 19:25.220 align:start SO THAT'S ENOUGH. 19:25.220 --> 19:27.040 align:start ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO 19:27.040 --> 19:29.270 align:start MEANNTHIS WITHHALL DUEY DO, I 19:29.270 --> 19:31.010 align:start RESPECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN 19:31.010 --> 19:33.220 align:start FISHERS PEOPLE MMY BE A LITTLE 19:33.220 --> 19:35.070 align:start MORE ABLE TO FIND THE EXTRA 19:35.070 --> 19:36.150 align:start INCOME TO -- OR THE EXTRA 19:36.150 --> 19:39.000 align:start MONEY TO FUND THIS TAX, ANN IN 19:39.000 --> 19:40.120 align:start MY DISTRICT WE HAVE SOMEE% 19:40.120 --> 19:41.280 align:start REALLY, REALLY HARD-HIT AREE, 19:41.280 --> 19:43.180 align:start THERE ARE SOME VERY, VERY POOR 19:43.180 --> 19:44.260 align:start AREAS IN MY DISTRICT WHERE, 19:44.260 --> 19:47.030 align:start YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAVE A MUCH 19:47.030 --> 19:50.030 align:start LARGER IMPACT THAN FISHERS 19:50.030 --> 19:50.120 align:start OR -- 19:50.120 --> 19:52.010 align:start IS THAT AN ISSUE, EVEN WITH 19:52.010 --> 19:54.030 align:start THE HERSHMAN BILLER SOME WOULD 19:54.280 --> 19:57.280 align:start SAY A DISPROPORTION MAT IMPACT 19:57.280 --> 19:59.130 align:start TO BETTER HEELED COMMUNITIES. 19:59.130 --> 20:01.010 align:start AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 20:01.010 --> 20:02.070 align:start IT'S DEPENDENT UPON EACH CITY 20:02.070 --> 20:04.060 align:start I THINK THERE'S A LOCAL 20:04.060 --> 20:05.000 align:start DEMOCRATIC PROCESS THAT'S 20:05.000 --> 20:07.020 align:start THESE TOOLS WHERE RESIDENTS 20:07.020 --> 20:07.270 align:start WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTTNITY TO 20:07.270 --> 20:09.040 align:start WEIGH IN AS TO WHETHER THEY 20:09.040 --> 20:10.070 align:start THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR 20:10.070 --> 20:11.220 align:start THEIR COMMUNITY OR NOT SO I 20:11.220 --> 20:12.190 align:start THINK EACH COMMUNITT'S GOING 20:12.190 --> 20:13.220 align:start TO HAVE TO WEIGH THAT DECISSOO 20:13.220 --> 20:15.160 align:start AND WHETHER II'S IN THE BEST 20:15.160 --> 20:17.070 align:start INTEREST FOR TTE RESIDENTS. 20:17.070 --> 20:18.100 align:start WHETHER IT'S FISHERS OR SOME 20:18.100 --> 20:19.130 align:start OTHER COMMUNITY I THINK IT'S 20:19.130 --> 20:20.220 align:start GOING TO BE UP TO THE 20:20.220 --> 20:21.210 align:start RESIDENTT ULTIMAAELY WHEN WEE% 20:21.210 --> 20:23.010 align:start TALK ABOUT THE LOCAL TOOLSS% 20:23.010 --> 20:24.090 align:start THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS 20:24.090 --> 20:24.180 align:start BILL. 20:24.180 --> 20:25.200 align:start Ap I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, WE 20:25.200 --> 20:27.100 align:start NEED TO GET SOME FUNKY MATH 20:27.100 --> 20:29.180 align:start AUT OF HERE BECAUSE WE'VE 20:29.180 --> 20:31.040 align:start TRIED TO BE DATA-DRIVEE. 20:31.040 --> 20:32.240 align:start AOR SOMEBODY TO PAY THE KIND 20:32.240 --> 20:34.250 align:start OF MONEY JUSTIN'S TALKING 20:34.250 --> 20:37.000 align:start ABOUT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE 20:37.000 --> 20:39.000 align:start DRIVING THEIR VEHICLE 20:39.000 --> 20:39.200 align:start 60,000 MILES A YEAR. 20:39.240 --> 20:42.240 align:start THE AVERAGE HOOSIER DRRVES 20:42.240 --> 20:43.230 align:start ABOUT 11,988 MILES, SSMMTHING 20:43.230 --> 20:45.090 align:start LIKE THAT, PER CAR. 20:45.090 --> 20:47.270 align:start SO WHEN YOU WORK THAT OUT, HE 20:48.090 --> 20:51.090 align:start PAYS -- IF YOU LOOK AT AVERAGE 20:51.090 --> 20:52.190 align:start MILEAGE -- MILES PERRGALLON, 20:52.190 --> 20:55.040 align:start YOU'RE LOOKING AT AAOUT $108 20:55.040 --> 20:57.100 align:start PER VEHICLE PER YEAR THAT 20:57.100 --> 20:59.280 align:start PEOPLE ARE PAYING. 20:59.280 --> 21:00.240 align:start THAT'S $108. 21:00.240 --> 21:02.070 align:start -AWHAT'S YOUR CELL PHONE BILL? 21:02.070 --> 21:04.090 align:start AOW, FOR THAT, FOR THE AVERAGE 21:04.090 --> 21:06.060 align:start HOOSIER, TO GO TO $250, I NEED 21:06.060 --> 21:08.160 align:start TO SEE THE MATH. 21:08.160 --> 21:09.130 align:start p> NO, NO, NO, NO THAT'S NOT 21:09.130 --> 21:11.060 align:start BASED ON THE GAS TAX ALONE. 21:11.060 --> 21:13.060 align:start I'M SAYING IF A WHEEL TAX WERE 21:13.260 --> 21:16.260 align:start IMPLEMENTED IN THESE 21:16.260 --> 21:17.120 align:start COMMUNITIES -- 21:17.120 --> 21:18.090 align:start YEAH, SO YOU GGT A WHEEL 21:18.090 --> 21:20.250 align:start TAX OF $50 FROM THE CITY, $50 21:20.250 --> 21:22.120 align:start FROM HE COUNTY, THAT'S $100, 21:22.120 --> 21:23.290 align:start IF YOU HAVE TWO CARS, THAT'S 21:23.290 --> 21:25.060 align:start $200 AND THEN YOU'RE PAYING 21:25.060 --> 21:27.210 align:start THE ADDITIONAL $50 A YEAR IN 21:27.210 --> 21:28.210 align:start GAS TAXES IF YOU'RE BOTH 21:28.210 --> 21:29.210 align:start DRIVING SO THAT'S WHERE THE 21:29.210 --> 21:30.080 align:start MATH COMES IN. 21:30.080 --> 21:31.210 align:start AND THE PEOPLE GET TO 21:31.210 --> 21:32.140 align:start DECIDE THAT. 21:32.180 --> 21:35.180 align:start AND THE TRUE -- THE ISSUE HERE 21:35.180 --> 21:36.260 align:start IS -- FISHERS IS UNIQUE. 21:36.260 --> 21:39.230 align:start II'S A FAIRLY NEW CITY. 21:40.020 --> 21:43.020 align:start ASPHALT LASTS ABOUT 15 TO 20 21:43.020 --> 21:43.120 align:start YEARS. 21:43.120 --> 21:44.220 align:start CONCRETE LASTS ABOUT 30 YEARS. 21:44.220 --> 21:46.080 align:start AND THAT MEANS REEUILD IT AAL 21:46.080 --> 21:47.270 align:start THE WAY TO THE LAY. 21:47.270 --> 21:49.260 align:start WE HAVE CITIES -- BRIDGES LAST 21:49.260 --> 21:50.250 align:start ABOUT 50 YEARS. 21:52.080 --> 21:55.080 align:start WE HAVE BRIDGES THAT ARE ON 21:55.080 --> 21:56.160 align:start 188-YEAR REBUILD CYCLE. 21:56.230 --> 21:59.230 align:start WE HAVE CITIES THAT ARE ON 70 21:59.230 --> 22:02.000 align:start AND 80-YEAR REPAVE CYCLES. 22:02.000 --> 22:03.100 align:start NOW, THE PROBLEM WITH THE 22:03.240 --> 22:06.240 align:start ONE-YEAR, ONE POO.T'S%- 22:07.140 --> 22:10.140 align:start OUR CITIES NEED ABOUT 22:10.140 --> 22:12.010 align:start $470 MILLION A YEAR 22:12.010 --> 22:14.010 align:start INCREMENTAL JUST TO STOP THE 22:14.010 --> 22:14.120 align:start DECLINE. 22:14.120 --> 22:15.070 align:start OF COURSE, THE ONE-YEAR POP 22:15.070 --> 22:17.130 align:start IS GOOD WHEN IT'S AN ELECTION 22:17.130 --> 22:18.280 align:start YEAR AND WHAT ROLE DOES THAT 22:18.280 --> 22:20.040 align:start PLAY, THE FACT THAT IN 22:20.040 --> 22:20.290 align:start NOVEMBER MANY OO YOUR 22:20.290 --> 22:23.010 align:start COLLEAGUES WWLL BE GOING -- 22:23.010 --> 22:24.160 align:start STANDING FORRREELECTION? 22:24.160 --> 22:25.220 align:start I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, AT SOME 22:25.220 --> 22:27.040 align:start LEVEE IT MAKES IT MMRE 22:27.040 --> 22:29.100 align:start DIFFICULT BUT I THINK MOST -- 22:29.100 --> 22:31.250 align:start MOSTLY PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, 22:32.060 --> 22:35.060 align:start HAVE SOME KIND OF TECHNICAL,EY%- 22:35.060 --> 22:36.010 align:start YOU KNOW, ISSUE WITH THE BIIL, 22:36.010 --> 22:37.210 align:start SOME KIND OF FUNDING MECHANISM 22:37.210 --> 22:38.250 align:start PORTION OF IT. 22:38.250 --> 22:40.120 align:start I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL 22:40.120 --> 22:41.120 align:start ELECTION-RELATED, IT REALLY 22:41.120 --> 22:42.120 align:start COMES DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE 22:42.120 --> 22:45.030 align:start NECESSARY TO LOOK FOR THEORK 22:45.030 --> 22:46.050 align:start MONEY IN THE EXISTING REVENUE 22:46.050 --> 22:47.090 align:start WE HAVE AND HOUSE DEMOCRATS 22:47.090 --> 22:49.060 align:start JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE. 22:49.060 --> 22:51.000 align:start WE TALK ABOUT THE T WORD, 22:51.000 --> 22:53.030 align:start TAXXS, THE BILL TALKS ABOUT 22:53.030 --> 22:53.230 align:start STUDYING TOLLS. 22:53.230 --> 22:55.120 align:start IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOUR 22:55.120 --> 22:55.270 align:start ORGANIZATION? 22:55.270 --> 22:56.220 align:start I THINK WE CAN STUDY THAT 22:56.220 --> 22:57.100 align:start FOR THE LONG-TERM. 22:57.100 --> 22:59.030 align:start WE'REEOPEN TOOTHE STUDY FOR 22:59.030 --> 22:59.120 align:start SURE. 22:59.120 --> 23:00.290 align:start SO THAT'S BETTER THAN 23:00.290 --> 23:02.030 align:start TAXES, IN YOUR MIND? 23:02.030 --> 23:03.120 align:start WELL, I THINK THAT'S A 23:03.120 --> 23:04.200 align:start LONG-TERM DISCUSSION. 23:04.200 --> 23:06.100 align:start IF WE'RE DECIDING BETWEEN 23:06.100 --> 23:08.200 align:start RAISING TAXXE RIGHT NOW OR A 23:08.200 --> 23:09.190 align:start LOOG-TERM SOLUTION FOR 23:09.190 --> 23:11.120 align:start TRANSPORTATION FUNDING 20, 30 23:11.120 --> 23:13.020 align:start YEARS DOWW THE ROAD, THAT 23:13.020 --> 23:15.070 align:start MIGHT BE SOMETHIIG WE HAVE TO 23:15.100 --> 23:18.100 align:start DISCCSS. 23:18.100 --> 23:19.270 align:start TO TOLLS, MAYOR. 23:19.270 --> 23:21.050 align:start THIS IS COMING FROM A GUU 23:21.050 --> 23:22.260 align:start THAT ROVE UP 65 TTIS MORNING 23:22.260 --> 23:24.100 align:start THAT WOULL HAVE HAD TO PAY $16 23:24.100 --> 23:25.160 align:start TO GET HERE SO -- 23:25.160 --> 23:28.130 align:start I APPPECIATE YOUR COMING 23:28.130 --> 23:29.180 align:start AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY ELSE 23:31.020 --> 23:34.020 align:start COMING HERE FOR THIS 23:34.020 --> 23:34.150 align:start DISCUSSIONN 23:34.150 --> 23:35.080 align:start AGAIN, MY GUESTS HAVE BEEN 23:35.080 --> 23:35.270 align:start REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE ED 23:35.270 --> 23:36.140 align:start SOOIDAY OF VALPARAISO. 23:36.140 --> 23:37.060 align:start DEMOCRATIC REPRESENNATIVE DAN 23:37.060 --> 23:37.260 align:start FORESTAL OF INDIANAPOLIS. 23:37.260 --> 23:38.180 align:start FISHERR MAYOR SCOTT FADNESS OF 23:38.180 --> 23:39.080 align:start THE INDIANA ASSOCIATION OF 23:39.080 --> 23:39.230 align:start CITIES AND TOWNS. 23:39.230 --> 23:40.100 align:start AND JUSTIN STEVENS OF 23:40.180 --> 23:43.180 align:start -AAMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY. 23:43.180 --> 23:45.250 align:start WE'RE TALKING FANTASY 23:45.250 --> 23:46.130 align:start SPORTS IN INDIANA. 23:46.130 --> 23:47.070 align:start SO IF YOU'RE A DRAFT KING OR A 23:47.070 --> 23:48.050 align:start FAN DUELER, I BET YOO'LL 23:48.050 --> 23:49.090 align:start DOUBLE DOWN ON THE NEXT 23:49.090 --> 23:51.100 align:start "IIDIANA LAWMAKERS." 23:51.100 --> 23:52.020 align:start TIME NOW FOR OUR WEEKLY 23:52.020 --> 23:53.090 align:start CONVERSATION WITH ED 23:53.090 --> 23:54.020 align:start FEIGENBAUM, PUBLISHER OF THE 23:54.020 --> 23:54.190 align:start NEWSLETTER INDIANA 23:54.190 --> 23:57.000 align:start "LEGISLATIVE INSIGGT." 23:57.150 --> 24:00.170 align:start SPOTS ON ONE SIDE, WE'VE GOT 24:00.170 --> 24:01.170 align:start DIRECT MAIL PIECES ON THE 24:01.170 --> 24:03.200 align:start OTHER SIDEE THIS II GETTING 24:03.200 --> 24:04.170 align:start ABSOLUTELY. 24:04.170 --> 24:06.260 align:start IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY REAL 24:06.260 --> 24:07.050 align:start QUICKLY. 24:07.050 --> 24:09.050 align:start AS MUCH AS WE MIGHT THINK THAT 24:09.050 --> 24:10.280 align:start EVERYTHING WILL BE DECIDED 24:10.280 --> 24:12.050 align:start QUICKLY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 24:12.050 --> 24:14.110 align:start DECIDED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, 24:14.110 --> 24:16.100 align:start IT'S NOT EVEN ALL GOING TO BE 24:16.100 --> 24:17.040 align:start DECIDED THIS SESSION. 24:17.040 --> 24:18.110 align:start I THINK NEXT YEAR YOU'RE GOING 24:18.110 --> 24:20.100 align:start TO SEE A LOT MORE ATTENNION TO 24:20.100 --> 24:21.180 align:start THIS REGARDLESS WHAT WE DO 24:21.180 --> 24:23.040 align:start THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE GOING 24:23.040 --> 24:25.100 align:start TO LOOK FOR A SHORT-TERMMFIX 24:25.100 --> 24:26.110 align:start WHICH COULD INCLUDE TAXES THIS 24:26.110 --> 24:29.080 align:start YEAR BUT NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE 24:29.080 --> 24:31.130 align:start REAL KEY AS WE DO WHAT ED 24:31.130 --> 24:33.100 align:start AOOIDAY WANTS TO DO, TAKE THAT 24:33.100 --> 24:34.100 align:start LONG-TERM VIEW DOWN THE ROAD. 24:34.100 --> 24:35.150 align:start WHAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING 24:35.150 --> 24:36.210 align:start OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, 24:36.210 --> 24:39.070 align:start THOUGH, IS THE FACT THAT THE 24:39.070 --> 24:41.010 align:start AILING ATLANTA CLLSES SOON FOR 24:41.010 --> 24:42.040 align:start CANDIDACY SO THESE 24:42.040 --> 24:43.050 align:start LEGISLATOOSS PARTICULARLY 24:43.050 --> 24:45.150 align:start REPPBLICANS WHO FEAR BEING 24:45.150 --> 24:47.010 align:start PRIMARIED, ARE GOING TO SEE 24:47.010 --> 24:48.210 align:start WHO THEIR OPPONENTS ARE BEFORE 24:48.210 --> 24:50.120 align:start THEY HAVEETO VOTE EFFFCTIVELY 24:50.120 --> 24:51.240 align:start ON A TAA INCREESE TOWARD THE 24:51.240 --> 24:53.000 align:start END OF THE SESSION SO THAT'S 24:53.000 --> 24:54.190 align:start GOIIG TO HELP DRIVE THIS 24:54.190 --> 24:55.000 align:start DEBATE. 24:55.000 --> 24:56.180 align:start BUT YOU THINK THE TAX 24:56.180 --> 24:58.150 align:start QUESTION COULD SURVIVE EVEN 24:58.160 --> 25:01.180 align:start ABSOLUTELY AND WHAT YOUAR? 25:01.180 --> 25:03.170 align:start WILL SEE IS SOME TYPE OF 25:03.170 --> 25:05.050 align:start INDEXING, THE INDEXING THAT 25:05.050 --> 25:06.050 align:start REPRESENTATIVE SOLIDAY WAS 25:06.050 --> 25:07.080 align:start REFERRING TO, I THINK THAT'S 25:07.080 --> 25:08.170 align:start ALMOST A CERTAINTY. 25:08.170 --> 25:09.230 align:start THERE'S AN ONGOING INCREASE 25:09.230 --> 25:12.140 align:start IN THE TAX RATE, KEEP PACE 25:12.140 --> 25:13.140 align:start WITH INFLATION. 25:13.260 --> 25:16.260 align:start RIGHT, WE BUMP THINGS BACK 25:16.260 --> 25:18.010 align:start TO WHERE THINGS WERE BEFORE 25:18.010 --> 25:19.240 align:start THE RATES WERE CHAAGED. 25:19.240 --> 25:22.110 align:start WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE 25:22.110 --> 25:24.220 align:start TODAY VERSUS GAS TAXES VERSUS 25:25.100 --> 25:28.100 align:start WHERE WE WERE BACK THEN IN 21 25:28.100 --> 25:30.020 align:start GOVERNOR O'BANNON IMPOSED THE 25:30.020 --> 25:31.130 align:start TEMPORARY BAN ON THE GASOLINE 25:31.130 --> 25:34.010 align:start SALES TAX, GAS AT THE SHELL 25:34.010 --> 25:35.160 align:start STATION AT 16th AND CAPITOL 25:38.100 --> 25:41.100 align:start IN IIDIANAPOLIS WAS $1.84.9 25:41.100 --> 25:43.100 align:start GALLON AND TODAY ON MY WAY 25:44.040 --> 25:47.040 align:start INTO THE STUDIO IT WAS DOWN TO 25:47.040 --> 25:47.160 align:start $1.74.9. 25:47.160 --> 25:48.240 align:start EVEN THOUGH YOU INDEXED 25:48.240 --> 25:49.240 align:start TODAY'S PRICES AGAINST THEE% 25:49.240 --> 25:51.150 align:start PRICES BACK THEN YOU'D STILLL% 25:51.150 --> 25:52.260 align:start BE AT ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AS 25:52.260 --> 25:54.250 align:start -AYOU WERE BACK 15, 16 YEARS 25:54.250 --> 25:55.130 align:start AGO. 25:55.130 --> 25:56.160 align:start IF A TAAXBILL SHOWS UP ON 25:56.160 --> 25:59.010 align:start THE GOVERNOR'' DESK, DOES THAT 25:59.010 --> 26:00.200 align:start PUT MIKE PENCE IN A TOUGH 26:00.200 --> 26:02.110 align:start SPOT?%-HE SAID IN THE STATE OF E 26:02.110 --> 26:04.260 align:start STATE THE LAST PLACE HE WOULD 26:04.260 --> 26:06.230 align:start LOOK WOULD BE IN THE WALLETS 26:06.230 --> 26:08.260 align:start OF POCKETBOOKS OF HOOSIEES. 26:08.260 --> 26:09.200 align:start HE'S BEEN PRETTY 26:09.200 --> 26:11.080 align:start COOPERATIVE IN LETTINGGTHE 26:11.080 --> 26:12.080 align:start LEGISLATURE COMING UP WITH THE 26:12.080 --> 26:14.110 align:start BEST SET OF CONCLUSSONS AND 26:14.110 --> 26:15.170 align:start THE BEST PACKAGES AND I THINK 26:15.170 --> 26:17.080 align:start THAT IF HE GETS WHAT HE WAATS 26:17.080 --> 26:19.100 align:start IN THERE, HE'' BE WILLING TO 26:20.220 --> 26:23.220 align:start AT EAST ALLOW A TAX INCREASE 26:23.220 --> 26:25.140 align:start IN EITHER CIGARETTES OR THE 26:26.230 --> 26:29.230 align:start GASOLINE SALES TAX TO BECOME 26:29.230 --> 26:31.070 align:start LAW EITHER WITH OR WITHOUT HIS 26:31.070 --> 26:31.200 align:start SIGNATURE. 26:31.200 --> 26:33.210 align:start THESE ARE NOT A, B, C, THIS 26:34.200 --> 26:37.200 align:start COULD BE AN AMALGAM BY THE 26:37.200 --> 26:38.160 align:start TIME WE'RE DONE WITH 26:38.160 --> 26:39.000 align:start COOFERENCE. 26:39.000 --> 26:39.220 align:start IT ILL BE A PACCAGE 26:39.220 --> 26:40.210 align:start PRESENTED TO GOVERNOR. 26:40.210 --> 26:42.080 align:start VERY INTERESTING. 26:42.080 --> 26:43.040 align:start ED, THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS FOR 26:44.140 --> 26:47.140 align:start YOUR INSIGHT. 26:58.020 --> 27:01.040 align:start FOR INFORMATION, EETRA 27:01.040 --> 27:01.160 align:start STREAMING 27:01.160 --> 27:02.050 align:start YOU CAN ACCESS LIVE 27:02.050 --> 27:02.250 align:start STREAMMNG COVERAGE OF THE 27:02.250 --> 27:03.120 align:start GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON THE 27:03.120 --> 27:03.280 align:start INTERNET AS WELL. 27:03.280 --> 27:04.180 align:start AND REMEMBER, YOU CAN GET OUR 27:04.180 --> 27:05.100 align:start SHOW, ON DEEAND, FROM XFINITY 27:05.100 --> 27:06.020 align:start AND BRIGHT HOUSE NETWORKS. 27:06.020 --> 27:06.240 align:start >WELL, THAT CONCLUDES 27:06.240 --> 27:07.170 align:start ANOTHER EDITION OF "INDIANA 27:07.170 --> 27:08.000 align:start LAWMAKERS." 27:08.000 --> 27:08.220 align:start I'M JON SCHWANTES, AND ON 27:08.220 --> 27:09.180 align:start BEHALF OFFWFYI PUBLIC MEDIA, 27:09.180 --> 27:11.100 align:start INNIANA'S OTHER 27:11.100 --> 27:13.120 align:start PUBLIC-BROADCASTING STATIOOS, 27:13.120 --> 27:14.160 align:start AND MYYCOLLEAGUES ED 27:14.160 --> 27:15.110 align:start FEIGENBAUM AND CHRISTOPHER 27:15.110 --> 27:16.040 align:start AYERS, I THANK YOU FOR JOINING 27:16.040 --> 27:18.030 align:start US, AND IIINVITE YOU TO VISIT 27:18.030 --> 27:19.240 align:start WFYI.ORG FOR MORE ON THE 2016 27:19.240 --> 27:20.280 align:start UNTIL EXT EEK....%