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THE IDAHO DEBATES, A
COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE

CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT.

THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A
COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE

IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS OF IDAHO, AND IDAHO

PUBLIC TELEVISION.

BROADCAST OF THE IDAHO DEBATES
IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC

POLICY CENTER AT BOISE STATE
UNIVERSITY FOR USING THE

STATEWIDE MISSION IN PUBLIC
POLICY EDUCATION AND SERVING THE

GREATER GOOD OF IDAHO THROUGH
RESEARCH AND TRAINING

ACTIVITIES.

BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO
THE FINAL IDAHO DEBATE OF THE

2006 ELECTION SEASON.

I'M MARCIA FRANKLIN, AND I WILL
BE YOUR MODERATOR THIS EVENING.

TONIGHT'S DEBATE IS FOR THE
POSITION OF GOVERNOR.

THE GOVERNOR IS THE CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE STATE,

AS SUCH, THAT PERSON APPOINTS
DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MEMBERS OF

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

HE OR SHE RECOMMENDS THE STATE
BUDGET TO THE LEGISLATURE, SIGNS

AND VETOES LAW, AND ISSUES
EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

THE GOVERNOR IS THE COMMANDER IN
CHIEF OF THE STATE MILITARY, THE

PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF
EXAMINERS, AND THE CHAIRMAN OF

THE LAND BOARD.

TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR, YOU MUST BE
A U.S. CITIZEN, AT LEAST 30

YEARS OLD, AND HAVE BEEN A
RESIDENT OF IDAHO FOR AT LEAST

TWO YEARS.

THE SALARY FOR THE POSITION IS
ABOUT $105,000 IN 2007 AND GOES

UP TO $115,000 IN 2010.

WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES WITH US
THIS EVENING.

FIRST IS JERRY BRADY.

MR. BRADY, A DEMOCRAT, IS A
NATIVE OF IDAHO PARTLY SUNNY, A

LAWYER BY TRAINING.

MR. BRADY WAS MOST RECENTLY THE
OWNER AND PUBLISHER OF THE IDAHO

FALLS POST REGISTER NEWSPAPER
AND CHANNEL 8 TELEVISION IN

IDAHO FALLS.

HE HAS HIS UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NINE-GAME

AND HIS LAW DEGREE FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA,

BERKELEY.

WELCOME TO YOU, AND ALSO JOINING
SUS MR. TED DUNLAP.

A LIB LIBERTARIAN WAS BORN IN
SANTA ROSA, CALIFORNIA.

HE HAD A FARMING BUSINESS AND
NOW LIVES IN GRANGEVILLE.

MR. DUNLAP STUDIED BUSINESS
MANAGEMENT AT SAW MBOMA STATE,

UNIVERSITY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> MR. BUSH OTTER WAS INVITED TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS DEBATE, BUT

HE DECLINED OUR INVITATION.

THE CONSTITUTIONALIST CANDIDATE,
MR. MARVIN RICHARDSON DID NOT

RESPOND TO OUR REQUEST FOR
INFORMATION IN TIME TO BE

CONSIDERED.

FLOW, OUR FORMAT TONIGHT IS AS
FOLLOWS -- EACH CANDIDATE WILL

ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM OUR
REPORTER PANEL.

THEN THEY WILL ANSWER SOME
QUESTIONS FROM VOTERS ON

VIDEOTAPE.

THEN THE CANDIDATES WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION EACH

OTHER.

WE'LL HAVE MORE REPORTER
QUESTIONS AND THEN CLOSING

COMMENTS.

NOW, BY RANDOM DRAW, MR. DUNLAP
WILL TAKE THE FIRST QUESTION

FROM BETSEY RUSSELL.

>> MR. DUNLAP, YOU HAVE HAD A
CUSTOM FARMING BUSINESS IN THE

CUNA AREA FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS
UNTIL YOUR RECENT MOVE TO

GRANGEVILLE, BUT YOU HAVE NEVER
HELD ELECTED OFFICE OR OPERATED

A LARGE ORGANIZATION IN EITHER
THE PUBLIC OR THE PRIVATE

SECTOR.

WHAT QUALIFIES YOU TO RUN OUR
STATE GOVERNMENT, WHICH HAS A

BUDGET OF MORE THAN $2 BILLION
AND THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES?

>> THE JOB OF GOVERNOR IS THAT
OF SUPERVISION AND MANAGEMENT.

I HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH
HEWLETT PACKARD AND TRAINING

WITH SONOMA STATE UNIVERSITY AND
BUSINESS MANAGEMENT.

PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED FOR ME
TOLD ME I'M THE BEST SUPERVISOR

THEY EVER HAD.

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY
IMPORTANT REQUIREMENT.

YOU NEED TO PICK GOOD PEOPLE.

YOU NEED TO ENABLE AND EMPOWER
THOSE GOOD PEOPLE, AND USING THE

OLD H.P. WAY I LEARNED BACK FROM
BILL HEWITT AND DAVE PACKARD, TO

INSPIRE THEM TO DO THEIR BEST
JOB.

SOMETIMES U. TO BE FIRM, AND
WHEN THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO

INSPIRE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DAN, YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION
FOR MR. BRADY.

>> MR. BRADY, GOOD EVENING.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T CONTROLLED
THE STATE HOUSE HERE SINCE 1960,

AND NOW HOLDS FEWER THAN ONE
FIFTH OF THE SEATS IN THE

LEGISLATURE.

UNLAKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO SERVED
BEFORE YOU, THEY WERE LONG-TERM

LAWMAKERS WHO BUILT
RELATIONSHIPS IN THE STATE

HOUSE.

YOU HAVE NEVER HAD ELECTIVE
EXPERIENCE.

HOW WILL YOU GOVERN IN A
REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED

LEGISLATURE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT
OF SUCH EXPERIENCE?

>> WELL, I THINK THE FIRST THING
TO SAY IS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T

DISQUALIFY SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY
DO NOT HAVE LONG-TERM EXPERIENCE

IN GOVERNMENT.

THE FACT OF THE, THE AMERICAN
TRADITION IS THAT PEOPLE AND THE

FOUNDING FATHERS CAME OUT OF
THEIR PRIVATE LIVES AND CAME

FORWARD TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR
TRADITION, THAT ITS CONSISTENT

WITH WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO.

I'VE BEEN RUNNING A BUSINESS IN
EASTERN IDAHO, LIKE TED.

I HAVE HAD SUBSTANTIAL
EXPERIENCE IN MANAGEMENT, AND

THE PART OF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE
OFFICER IS, IS, REMEMBER THIS,

THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT JOB.

THIS IS THE LARGEST BUDGET, AS
BETSEY WAS SAYING, YOU HAVE TO

HAVE SOMEONE GOOD AT MANAGING.

THAT'S THE PRIME JOB.

WITH REGARD TO THE LEGISLATURE,
I WANT TO SAY REPEATEDLY I'M NOT

GOING TO BE AS A GOVERNOR
SOMEONE WHO IS PRO DEMOCRAT OR

PRO REPUBLICAN, BUT SOMEONE WHO
IS PRO IDAHO.

WHO CAN DO THAT BEST?

I PROMISE YOU I WILL NOT FAVOR
ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, EXPECT

WHAT'S BEST FOR IDAHO.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE
OF GOODWILL IN BOTH HOUSES, IN

BOTH PARTIES THAT WILL WANT TO
WORK WITH ME.

I DO NOT ANTICIPATE IT AS A
PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, THEY SAY IN FOOTBALL,
TAKE WHAT THE DEFENSE GIVES YOU.

I WILL FIND THOSE PEOPLE THAT
WANT TO WORK WITH ME TO CREATE A

COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM, FOR
EXAMPLE, OR ADVANCED EARLY

CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, AND I THINK
WE WILL BE JUST FINE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BETSEY
RUSSELL TO MR. DUNLAP.

>> MR. DUNLAP, LIBERTARIANS
BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT IS TOO

BIG, THAT IT PLAYS FAR TOO GREAT
A ROLE IN OUR LIVES.

IF YOU ARE ELECTED GOVERNOR,
WHAT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES OF

OUR STATE GOVERNMENT WOULD YOU
DISMANTLE OR DO AWAY WITH?

PLEASE BE SPECIFIC.

>> I WOULDN'T DISMANTLE OR DO
AWAY WITH ANY PROGRAMS.

CERTAINLY, WE DO BELIEVE THAT
GOVERNMENT IS TOO LARGE.

WE LOOK AT, AT DEMOCRATS,
TYPICALLY, TRY TO APPEAL TO THE,

TO THE LIBERTARIAN VIEW THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE SHARE THAT, THAT

YOUR PERSONAL LIBERTIES ARE
IMPORTANT, AND, AND THAT'S --

THE REPUBLICANS TEND TO APPEAL
TO THE SIDE OF, OF THE

LIBERTARIAN SIDE THAT SAYS YOUR
INCOME IS IMPORTANT.

THE LIBERTARIANS APPEAL TO THAT
SELF-OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS THE

OWNERSHIP OF YEARNINGS.

THAT'S THE LIBERTARIAN VIEW.

>> DO YOU WANT A FOLLOW-UP?

>> YES, SOME LIBERTARIANS
PROPOSE DECRIMINALIZATION OF

DRUGS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH
ENFORCING THOSE DRUG LAWS IS A

MAJOR ROLE OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

WHAT IS YOUR POSITION?

>> LET'S SEE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE
350, 400 PEOPLE HOUSED IN TEXAS

BECAUSE OUR PRISONS ARE
OVERFLOWING.

WE HAVE 11,000 ON PROBATION IN
PAROLE.

WE ARE, RIGHT NOW, ON A LIST OF
108 COUNTRIES TREATING THE

STATES AS IF THEY WERE
COUNTRIES.

THAT WOULD MAKE 20TH ON THAT
LIST OF 108.

BEING IN THE TOP 20 OF THIS LIST
IS NOT A GOOD SPOT TO BE.

IF WE HAD HALF AS MANY PEOPLE IN
PRISON, WE WOULD BE AT 315 OR

SOMETHING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WOULD PUT US DOWN THERE,
LET ME SEE, PRISONS, I HAD THAT

-- EXCUSE ME.

THERE IT IS.

THAT WOULD PUT US DOWN TO THE
SAME TERRITORY OCCUPIED BY

LATVIA, MULDOVIA, NEW HAMPSHIRE
AND RHODE ISLAND.

>> WOULD YOU DECRIMINALIZE DRUGS
THEN?

>> I COULDN'T DECRIMINALIZE
DRUGS.

THAT'S NOT UP TO THE GOVERNOR.

WE ARE NOT ELECTING A KING OR A
RULER, AN EMPEROR.

WE'RE ELECTING A GOVERNOR.

A GOVERNOR IS LIMITED BY LAW.

I CERTAINLY WOULD FORM A
THREE-PERSON PANEL TO REVIEW ALL

OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IN
PRISON AND LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT

HAVEN'T HARMED ANYBODY AND SEE
IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE COULD

DEAL WITH THEM OUTSIDE IN THE
COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF KEEPING

THEM FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND
THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEIR

JOBS.

>> BUT DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE
OUGHT TO DECRIMINALIZE DRUGS?

>> WELL, DRUGS IS A FUNNY THING.

THE DRUG CULTURE IS VERY POPULAR
IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE -- EVERYBODY FINDS THAT
DRUGS MAKE THEIR LIVES EASIER

AND BETTER.

YOU GO INTO WALMART, AND YOU
WILL FIND, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT

SIX, SEVEN AISLE FULL OF DRUGS.

YOU WILL FIND STORES IN EVERY
TOWN SELLING DRUGS.

SO, WHAT WE, AS PARENTS, ARE
TELLING OUR CHILDREN IS THAT WE

THINK DRUGS ARE OK.

WHAT OUR CHILDREN ARE TELLING
US, INSTEAD, THEY ARE SAYING,

GEE, IF YOU THINK DRUGS ARE OK,
THEN THEY PROBABLY ARE OK.

NOW, YOU THINK WHEN YOU ARE
DOING THAT, WHEN YOU ARE USING

DRUGS, WHEN YOU ARE HAVING YOUR
CHILDREN TAKE DRUGS, YOU THINK

THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD ADVICE, BUT
YOU JUST MEAN THOSE APPROVED BY

THE F.D.A
THEY GO AND THEY TALK TO THEIR

FRIENDS AT HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY
FIND THAT, THAT GOSH, DO I TRUST

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR DO I
TRUST JOE OVER HERE, YOU KNOW?

THIS GUY IS A GOOD GUY, YOU
KNOW.

>> THANK YOU.THY, TOO.

THE NEXT QUESTION WILL BE FROM
DAN TO MR. BRADY.

>> MR. BRADY, YOU MADE THE
CENTERPIECE OF YOUR CAMPAIGN THE

CLAIM THAT YOU ARE NOT FOR SALE.

WHY, THEN, HAVE YOU SEND ABOUT
$1.5 MILLION IN CAMPAIGN

CONTRIBUTIONS AND NOT FOLLOWED
THE MODEL OF JIM HANSEN AND THE

SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT,
WHOSE LIMITED CAMPAIGN -- WHO

HAS LIMITED CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTIONS TO $100.

>> THE MEAN RAIN IS IT TOOK THAT
TO BE COMPETITIVE.

MY OPPONENT RAISED OVER $2
MILLION, PROBABLY A LOT MORE,

AN 57% OF THAT, NEARLY
TWO-THIRDS HAS COME FROM LARGE

CORPORATIONS, POLITICAL ACTION
COMMITTEES, AND WHEREAS MINE HAS

COME FROM INDIVIDUALS.

95% OF WHAT I RECEIVED HAS COME
FROM INDIVIDUALS.

AND ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE FROM
WITHIN THE STATE OF IDAHO.

I WANTED TO WIN.

I WANTED TO BE COMPETITIVE, AND
YOU HAD TO SPEND 19 MONTHS GOING

ALL AROUND THIS STATE, AS I HAVE
DONE, AND YOU HAD TO RAISE

ENOUGH MONEY.

I WORKED VERY, VERY HARD AT IT.

I WORKED AND CONTACTED
INDIVIDUALS, AND I AM PROUD OF

THAT.

I THINK, DAN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE
IN A DEAD HEAT AND WE'RE LIKELY

TO WIN THIS RACE.

>> IS THERE A DIFFERENCE, THEN,
TAKING MONEY FROM OUT OF STATE

AND INSTATE?

IS THERE -- IS ONE MORE -- ARE
YOU SUGGESTING THAT CONGRESSMAN

OTTER IS MORE LIKELY TO BE
BOUGHT THAN YOU ARE BECAUSE YOUR

MONEY COMES FROM HOME AND MORE
OF HIS COMES FROM ELSEWHERE?

>> YES.

I THINK INDIVIDUALS DO NOT HAVE
PARTICULAR CONTROL AND DO NOT

SEEK TO HAVE A PARTICULAR
CONTROL OVER THE GOVERNMENT,

WHEREAS MY, MY OPPONENT,
CONGRESSMAN OTTER, IS SUPPORTED

BY 13 OIL COMPANIES.

SIX DRUG COMPANIES.

NOW, I ASK YOU, WHO IS LIKELY TO
DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF GASOLINE?

ME OR CONGRESSMAN OTTER?

WHO IS LIKELY TO TAKE ON THE
DRUG COST AS TED WAS TALKING

ABOUT, EXPECT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT
FINANCED BY THEM.

SO YES, I THINK THAT THERE IS A
LIKELIHOOD THAT PEOPLE WILL BE

INFLUENCED BY THE PEOPLE THAT
CONTRIBUTED TO THEM, AND I AM

PROUD THAT I DON'T HAVE THOSE
LARGE OUT OF STATE CONTRIBUTIONS

WHO COORATIONS AND, OF
CORPORATIONS AND POLITICAL

ACTION COMMITTEES.

>> BETSEY, YOU HAVE THE NEXT
QUESTION FOR MR. BUN LAP.

>> MR. DUNLAP, THE STATE
LEGISLATURE MET IN SPECIAL

SESSION IN AUGUST TO REFORM
IDAHO'S TAX SYSTEM BY LOWERING

PROPERTY TAXES, RAISING SALES
TAXES, AND MOVING SURPLUS FUNDS

INTO A SCHOOL SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

BOTH YOU AND MR. BRADY HAVE
OPPOSED THIS TAX REFORM

LEGISLATION, KNOWN AS HOUSE BILL
1.

WHERE DID YOU OPPOSE IT AND WHAT
DO YOU THINK SHOULD HAPPEN

INSTEAD?

>> TAXES ARE TRANSFERS OF MONEY
FROM PEOPLE WHO EARNED IT TO THE

GOVERNMENT.

UNTIL YOU SHRINK GOVERNMENT, YOU
ARE GOING TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM

THE PEOPLE WHO EARNED IT TO
GOVERNMENT.

THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY HAVE A
REASONABLE EFFECT ON TAXES IS TO

SHRINK GOVERNMENT BACK DOWN.

SO, REARRANGING THE DECK CHAIRS
IN THE TITANIC IS NOT AN

IMPRESSIVE ACTION FOR ME.

I'M NOT -- I THINK THAT ITS
SLIFT HAND.

I THINK THE END RESULT WILL BE
MORE TAXES SOMEWHERE.

AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE 46% OF
OUR PROPERTY TAXES ON THE

AVERAGE BILL AND 65% OF THE
STATE REVENUES ARE GOING TO

EDUCATION.

THIS SAYS THAT EVERYTHING ELSE
IS UNIMPORTANT?

OR IT SAYS THAT WE'RE JUST GOING
TO KEEP RAMPING UP OUR TAXES.

SO, I'M, I'M AGAINST REARRANGING
IT TO, TO TRY TO DECEIVE THE,

THE PUBLIC INTO THINKING THAT
WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING TAXES.

>> MR. BRADY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
COMMENT ON HOUSE BILL 1?

>> HOUSE BILL 1?

>> YES.

THAT'S WHAT BETSEY'S QUESTION
IS --

>> SPECIAL SESSION LEGISLATION.

>> THE RISCH BILL.

>> THE RISCH OTTER BILL, AS I
LIKE TO CALL IT.

THIS IS A CASE OF SHIFTING TAXES
AWAY FROM CORPORATIONS LIKE WE

WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, AND
SECOND HOMEOWNERS FROM OUT OF

STATE, CELEBRITIES ONTO ORDINARY
PEOPLE.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS INCREASED
THE TAX ON 95% OF THE PEOPLE OF

IDAHO.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE
INCREASE THE SALES TAX BY 20%

WITH THE SUPPORT OF GOVERNOR
RISCH AND CONGRESSMAN OTTER.

NOW, WE ARE PAYING MORE.

WE ARE PAYING ANOTHER $219
MILLION MORE, AND WHO IS NOT

PAYING THAT TAX?

WHO GOT RELIEVED OF THAT?

WELL, CELEBRITIES, SECOND
HOMEOWNERS GOT A TAX BREAK OF

$60 MILLION.

LARGE CORPORATIONS GOT US TAXES
DECREASED $70 MILLION.

UTILITIES GOT DECREASED SO WHAT
HAPPENED WAS WE SHIFTED FROM

PEOPLE WHO COULD AFFORD TO PAY
TO PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD TO

PAY.

MY BUSINESS, I RUN A BUSINESS IN
IDAHO FALLS.

I'M GOING TO BE RELIEVED OF THE
OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT THE

SCHOOLS.

THAT'S WRONG.

THAT'S SIMPLY WRONG.

>> DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP OR
SHOULD WE MOVE ON?

DAN, YOUR QUESTION FOR
MR. BRADY.

>> CONGRESSMAN OTTER HAS
DISCLOSED HIS PERSONAL FINANCES

BECAUSE HE'S A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS.

YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO.

IDAHOANS HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK
AT THE CONGRESSMAN'S PERSONAL

FINANCES AND SEE WHETHER THEY
MIGHT CONFLICT WITH HIS

GOVERNING THE STATE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE, BUT
THE LAST TIME THIS SEAT WAS OPEN

IN 1994, BOTH THE, A DEMOCRAT
AND REPUBLICAN DISCLOSED THEIR

FINANCES.

IN A CLIMATE WHERE VOTERS ARE SO
CONCERNED WITH ETHICS, WHY

HAVEN'T YOU COME CLEAN ABOUT
YOUR PERSONAL FINANCES.

>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN
TELL YOU BROADLY THAT I OWN

STOCK IN THE POST COMPANY.

MY BROTHER AND I OWN ABOUT HALF
OF IT, BUT THE EMPLOYEES OWN 49%

OF MY COMPANY.

I SAW TO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE, WHERE MOST OF
MY VALUE AND WEALTH IS TIED UP

IN SHARES OF THAT COMPANY.

I'M NOT SELLING THE COMPANY.

I WANT TO PROTECT THE COMPANY.

I WANT TO KEEP IT AS AN
INDEPENDENT VOICE IN IDAHO.

SO, I'M NOT GOING TO ACCESS THAT
MONEY.

OTHERWISE, I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW,
I'VE GOT SOME 401-K, I'VE GOT

SOME SAVINGS, BUT REALLY, A
SMALL FARM.

I'D BE GLAD TO TELL YOU ABOUT
THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT

INFLUENCES WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

>> WHY NOT, WHY NOT DISCLOSE?

YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE WILLING
IN BROADWAY TO TALK ABOUT IT,

WHY NOT --
>> HERE WE ARE ON TELEVISION --

>> HE'S GIVEN US NUMBERS.

>> THE PRINCIPAL SOURCE OF MY
WEALTH, IF YOU LOOKED ON THE

BUT THE NEXT THING YOU HAVE TO
DO IS FIND WAYS TO INCREASE THE

INCOME OF PEOPLE IN NORTH IDAHO.

WE HAVE GOT TO RAISE THE MINIMUM
WAGE.

WE HAVE GOT TO RECRUIT LIVING
WAGE JOBS, AND SIST TWO PARTS TO

THAT ANSWER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. DUNLAP, YOU HAVE A MINUTE TO
ANSWER.

>> THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAUSED
ANYBODY TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR

HOUSE.

IF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE BECOMES
WORDS $10 MILLION, IT DOESN'T

CHANGE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ONE
PERSON'S HOUSE, UNLESS THE

COUNTY INCREASES THEIR PROPERTY
TAXES.

IF THE COUNTY DOESN'T SPEND MORE
MONEY, THE COUNTY DOESN'T NEED A

PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.

I THINK THEY NEED TO DO THAT AT
THE COUNTY LEVEL, AT THE LOCAL

LEVEL WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY
REACH THE POLITICIANS, TALK TO

THEM LIVE AND IN PERSON.

I THINK IF YOU PUSH ALL THAT
DOWN TO THE STATE LEVEL, NORTH

IDAHO IS GOING TO BE UNABLE TO
TALK TO THE POLITICIANS THAT ARE

MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

SAME THING WITH EASTERN IDAHO.

IT HAS TO BE DONE DOWN AT THE
COUNTY LEVEL UNTIL THE, AND TELL

THE COUNTY PEOPLE YOU DON'T WANT
THEM SPENDING YOUR MONEY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT QUESTION WILL GO TO YOU
FIRST, MR. DUNLAP, AND LET'S

HEAR FROM TERRY KLINGLER.

>> WHAT ARE THE STEPS THAT ARE
GOING TO BE TAKEN TO PROTECT

IDAHO'S ELK HERD?

>> YOU KNOW, I WAS FUNNY, THE
PEOPLE WHO PASSED THE LAW SAYING

THAT WE HAD TO HAVE THIS, THIS
EXPLOSION IN POPULATION IN NORTH

IDAHO, THEY ALL LIVE IN A CITY
WHERE THEY CAN'T EVEN OWN

FIREARMS.

THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITH THOSE
WOLVES CAN'T WALK OUTSIDE THE

CITY LIMITS WITHOUT CARRYING
GUNS.

THIS IS LUDICROUS.

JUST BECAUSE WYOMING CAN'T GET
THE WOLF PLAN CORRECT DOESN'T

MEAN IDAHO SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

THE GOVERNOR HAS TO STAND FIRM
AND SAY THE FEDS DO NOT HAVE A

RIGHT TO OVERPOPULATE NORTH
IDAHO WITH WOLVES.

>> MR. BRADY.

>> I AGREE COMPLETELY, TED.

YOU ARE RIGHT ON.

THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY WOLVES
NOW.

WHEN THEY WERE INTRODUCED, WE
THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE 15 PACKS,

NOW WE HAVE 45 PACKS.

600 SOME ODD WOLVES AND 120 BORN
LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE GOT TO BRING IT UNDER
CONTROL.

THE STATE HAS A RIGHT TO DO
THAT.

AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
SHOULD NOT BE OVER RUNNING OR

OVER, OVERJEOPARDIZING IDAHO'S
DECISION TO DO THAT.

AS I SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE GOT
TO BRING TURNED CONTROL, AND I

WOULD OPPORTUNITY THEM AS
PREDATORS.

THE OTHER THING IN YOUR QUESTION
IS THIS.

WE HAVE ALLOWED SO-CALLED
SHOOTER BULL OPERATIONS TO BE,

TO BE BUILT IN A WAY THAT ELK
CAN BREAK OUT OF THESE CONFINES

AND GO INTO THE WILD, AND THEN,
AND THEN THEY, THEY INTERMINGLE

WITH THE WILD ELK AND, AND THE
GENETIC, I'M NOT SAYING THIS

VERY WELL, BUT THE GENETIC
PURITY OF OUR ELK STRAIN, OF OUR

ELK HERDS, IS BEING COMPROMISED.

WE HAVE GOT TO BRING THOSE
OPERATIONS, THOSE CANNED

HUNDREDS UNDER CONTROL, AND I AM
AGAINST THEM.

I WILL TRY TO ELIMINATE THEM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT QUESTION, WE'LL START
WITH YOU, MR. BRADY.

IT'S FROM STEVEN HARDY
>> CURRENTLY, HOME SCHOOLING IS,

IS AN OPTION AVAILABLE TO
FAMILIES HERE IN AMERICA, BUT I

WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE IT STAY
THAT WAY.

HOW DO YOU THINK THAT, THAT, OR
HOW WOULD YOU PROTECT HOME

SCHOOLING AS A VIABLE OPTION,
EDUCATIONAL OPTION HERE?

>> MR. BRADY, YOU HAVE A MINUTE.

>> WELL, I CERTAINLY RESPECT THE
PEOPLE WHO HOME SCHOOL.

THERE ARE TWO OF OUR NEIGHBORS
THAT HOME SCHOOL.

ONE HAD A NAME BY THE NAME OF
SAM.

SAM WAS HOME SCHOOLED.

HE LIVES A FEW DOORS DOWN.

THE NEXT BLOCK THERE'S ANOTHER
YOUNG MAN, AND THEIR PARENTS

HAVE THAT RIGHT AND THAT
OBLIGATION, IF THEY WISH, TO,

TO, BECAUSE THE FIRST OBLIGATION
OF WHO EDUCATES THE CHILD IS

WITH THE PARENTS, SO LET'S
PROTECT THAT.

AND, AND I WILL DO THAT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT, AND
WHAT I SEE IS THE HOME SCHOOLERS

IN THE STATE OF IDAHO ARE DOING
A PRETTY DARN GOOD JOB.

YOU WILL FIND THAT WHEN THEY
COME TO COLLEGE OR, OR ENTER,

ENTER THE REGULAR HIGH SCHOOL,
THEY ARE DOING, DOING, DOING

VERY WELL, SO I WOULD PROTECT
THAT RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

MR. DUNLAP, HOME SCHOOLING.

>> HOME SCHOOLERS MAKE UP ABOUT,
ABOUT ONE AND A QUARTER PERCENT

OF OUR POPULATION, AND YET, THEY
MAKE UP 25% OF THE POPULATION OF

THE WINNERS OF THE SPELLING BEE,
THE MATH AND HISTORY AND

GEOGRAPHIC COMPETITIONS.

THIS DISPARITY SAYS WE OUGHT TO
ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO HOME

SCHOOL, GO BACK TO MY $5,000 TAX
DEDUCTION.

HOME SCHOOLERS DON'T SPEND
ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE $5,000 OR

THE $7,000 PER KID WE SPEND IN
THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND YET, THIS IS A HUGE,
IMPRESSIVE RESULT.

SO, WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THEM,
MY TAX BREAK FOR $5,000 WOULD

APPLY TO PRIVATE SCHOOL.

THE HOME SCHOOLERS MIGHT SPEND
$1,000 OF THAT, EVEN $2,000 TO

GET COMPUTERS AND, AND SOME,
SOME SPECIAL SOFTWARE THAT, THAT

TEACHES THEM AND SOME OF THE
SUBJECTS THAT PARENT CAN'T QUITE

FILL IN FOR THEM.

BUT, THAT, I CERTAINLY WOULD
ENCOURAGE THE HOME SCHOOLERS TO

DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION, AND
WE'LL START WITH, WITH YOU,

MR. DUNLAP TO, ANSWER IT.

>> WHAT PLANS DO YOU HAVE TO
ENCOURAGE THE LATINO STUDENTS TO

ATTEND THE HIGHER EDUCATION.

>> I DON'T DISCRIMINATE.

I REALLY CAN'T SEE
DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ANYBODY

FOR RACE OR SEX OR, OR, OR
ETHNIC BACKGROUND.

NONE OF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO
WITH ANYTHING.

I REALLY, REALLY, THE GOVERNMENT
HAS EXPANDED THE SCHOOL SYSTEM,

AND IT'S GOTTEN EXTREMELY
EXPENSIVE TO, TO, TO TAKE A

POTTERY CLASS FROM THE POTTER
CENTER IN THE DOWNTOWN GARDEN

CITY COST $60.

TO TAKE IT FROM B.S.U. COST
$650.

YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN THE
GOVERNMENT SCHOOL JUMPS, INTO

INTO, LIKE THE COLLEGE SYSTEM OR
SOMETHING, THEY CAN MAKE THAT

EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

YOU HAVE THE TEXT SCHOOL THAT
LASTS 14 MONTHS FROM, FROM ONE

OF THE TEXT SCHOOLS, TEXT
SCHOOLS AROUND IN BOISE, AND,

AND IF YOU DO IT IN A JUNIOR
COLLEGE, BY DEFINITION, IT TAKES

TWO YEARS BECAUSE EVERY PROGRAM
TAKES TWO YEARS, EXACTLY.

THERE'S SOME MAYBE YOU LEARN
WELDING IN SIX MONTHS FROM A

PRIVATE WELDING SCHOOL.

IF YOU TAKE IT OVER WITH THE,
WITH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, IT'S

GOING TO BE A TWO-YEAR PROGRAM.

AGAIN, EVERYTHING GETS MORE
EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYBODY,

INCLUDING THE LATINOS.

>> THANK YOU.

MR. BRADY.

>> WELL, TED MAKES A GOOD POINT.

AGAIN, THAT, THAT IN OUR FREE
ENTERPRISE SYSTEM, STUDENTS CAN

GO TO THESE PRIVATE COLLEGES AND
CHOOSE TO BE A WELDER IN THAT

SYSTEM, AND THAT'S GREAT.

LET, LET THIS GO ON.

BUT I SAY TO YOU THAT WE HAVE
GOT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY COLLEGE

SYSTEM THAT IS HALF AS EXPENSIVE
AS OUR COLLEAGUES.

THAT WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO
PEOPLE OF, OF MORE MODEST MEANS.

IT WOULD BE MORE AFFORDABLE, SO
WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT, I'M JUST

NOT TALKING ABOUT IT FOR, FOR
ONE CLASS OF PEOPLE BUT FOR

LATINOS, EVERY PERSON OF EVERY
RACE WILL FIND AN ETHNICITY,

WILL BENEFIT FROM, FROM A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM.

AND WE ALSO NEED TO, TO TRY TO
FIND WAYS TO REDUCE NOT ONLY THE

COST, BUT INCREASE THE
SCHOLARSHIPS AND INCREASE THE,

THE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE
TO GO TO COLLEGE WITH NO FURTHER

ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE AND
PRIVATE SOURCES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONTO OUR
NEXT SECTION OF THE DEBATE.

QUESTIONS FROM ARE FROM, FROM
THE CANDIDATES TO EACH OTHER.

MR. DUNLAP, YOU MAY BEGIN WITH A
QUESTION FOR MR. BRADY UNDER 30

SECONDS.

>> THE GOVERNMENT HAS GROWN FOR
THE LAST 100 YEARS UNDER BOTH

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, NO
MATTER WHO IS GOVERNOR.

THE COST OF GOVERNMENT, THE SIZE
OF GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO BE

GROWING IN THE STATE
SO, HOW, HOW WOULD YOU, WOULD

YOU -- PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO
COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRESSURES OF

THE TAXES, THE PROPERTY TAXES,
HOW WOULD YOU KEEP THE COST OF

GOVERNMENT DOWN, THE SIZE OF
GOVERNMENT DOWN?

>> ONE MINUTE, MR. BRADY.

YEAH.

>> WE NEED A COMPLETE TOP TO
BOTTOM REVIEW OF THE COST OF

GOVERNMENT.

WE HAVE HAD ONE PARTY IN CHARGE
NOW FOR, FOR 12 YEARS, AND I

THINK WHENEVER A NEW GOVERNOR
COMES, IN HE'S GOT TO REVIEW

EVERYTHING.

LAST TIME I RAN I TALKED ABOUT A
COMMISSION IN TEXAS WHICH SAVED

$4 BILLION WHEN, AND WHEN THE
GOVERNOR HEARD BACKS HE TALKED

ABOUT HIS BLUE RIBBON
COMMISSION.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REDUCE
COSTS.

HE PUT PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS IS
WHO WERE FRIENDS OF HIS OR

SELECTED PEOPLE, AND THEY CAME
UP, BASICALLY, WITH VERY FEW

IDEAS TO REDUCE THE COST OF
GOVERNMENT, SO YOU NEED AN

OUTSIDE PROFESSIONAL EVALUATION
OF HOW TO REDUCE OUR COSTS.

WE'RE GOING TO, TO ENTER A TIME,
I BELIEVE, OF GREAT STRESS AND,

AND OBLIGATION FOR, FOR
GOVERNMENT.

WE HAVE GOT TO START -- THE
FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS

REVIEW ALL YOUR EXPENSES.

YOU SEE IF YOU CAN DRIVE THEM
DOWN.

YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR ME TALKING
ABOUT THAT EARLY IN MY

ADMINISTRATION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO YOU HAVE REBUTTAL,
MR. DUNLAP?

OK.

[LAUGHTER]
>> MR. BRADY, YOU MAY ASK

MR. DUNLAP A QUESTION.

>> YOU KNOW, TED, WHEN I'M
ELECTED, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT

INCLUDING EVERYBODY WITHOUT
REGARD TO PARTY.

LIBERTARIANS, A SMALL PORTION OF
OUR POPULATION, AND YET YOU YET

WHAT WOULD I, SERGIO GARCIA
GOVERNOR, WANTING TO REACH OUT

TO EVERYONE AND REPRESENT
EVERYONE, WHAT WOULD YOU ADVISE

ME?

WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST TO ME
WITH REGARD TO, TO, TO

LIBERTARIANS?

>> WELL, SHOOT, I THINK I'D BE A
GREAT EMPLOYEE.

[LAUGHTER]
>> YOU COULD PUT ME IN CHARGE

OF, OF PUTTING IN A $5,000 TAX
DEDUCTION FOR SCHOLARSHIPS OR

TUITION.

OR YOU COULD PUT ME IN CHARGE OF
THE THREE-PERSON BOARD TO CUT

THE PRISON POPULATION BY, BY
60%, FREE UP LAW ENFORCEMENT TO,

TO DEAL WITH, WITH VIOLENT CRIME
INSTEAD OF, OF CHASING AFTER

PEOPLE, WHO WHO AREN'T HURTING
ANYBODY BUT THEMSELVES.

>> YOU JUST VOLUNTEERED, TED.

>> DID YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL?

>> YOU BET.

>> I LIKE HIS ANSWER, AND, AND
NOT ON THE TAX CREDIT, BUT ON

THE REVIEW OF THE PRISON, AND,
AND I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD

IDEA, AND I AM GLAD YOU
VOLUNTEERED.

[LAUGHTER]
>> MR. DUNN LAP, YOU HAVE THE

OPPORTUNITY TO ASK MR. BRADY ONE
MORE QUESTION.

>> WELL, I HAD A CLEVER ONE ONCE
UPON A TIME.

SURE.

OK.

IF MINIMUM WAGE IS REALLY AN
EFFECTIVE TOOL, THEN, THEN WHY

NOT, WHY NOT, WHY NOT A MINIMUM
WAGE OF $20 AN HOUR, AND, YOU

KNOW, SO I CAN MAKE AN HONEST
LIVING WAGE.

I THINK $20 AN HOUR IS A GOOD
LIVING WAGE.

>> WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT
WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT.

DAN TALKED TO ME ABOUT WORKING'S
LEGISLATURE.

I'LL BE GLAD TO GET $7.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT, GETTING A
NICE COMPROMISE.

I WILL TELL YOU, HOWEVER, THAT
IN AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, THEY

HAVE MINIMUM WAGES OF $16, $17
AN HOUR, AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

THEY ARE COMPETITIVE ON THE
WORLD MARKET.

, SO LET'S NOT BE FRIGHTENED OF
INCREASING IT TO $7.

THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO.

IT'S NOT -- IT'S A MORAL ISSUE
TO ME.

IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF RIGHT AND
WRONG.

IT'S A MATTER OF, OF HELPING OUR
FAMILIES.

I MEAN, PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE SO
STRESSED, FINANCIALLY.

IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM SOME
RELIEF, WE ARE DOING, DOING

DAMAGE TO OUR FAMILIES AND, AND
TO OUR CHILDREN.

>> DID YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL,
MR. DUNLAP?

>> SURE.

LET'S SAY MY NEIGHBOR COMES OVER
TO MY HOUSE, NEIGHBOR KID SEES

ME OUT THERE AND SAYS, OH, MY
GOSH, THAT OLD GUY RAKING THE

LEAVES, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO,
YOU KNOW.

HEY, MR. DUNLAP, EXCUSE ME, I'LL
RAKE THOSE LEAVES FOR $5.

I SAY, OH, JIMMIE, THANKS, MAN.

HERE, HERE'S THE RAKE AND HERE'S
$5, AND JIMMIE GOES OUT AND

RAKES THE LEAVES FOR $5.

ALONG COMES A THIRD PARTY
STROLLING IN AND SAYS WAIT A

MINUTE, JIMMIE, HOW LONG IS THAT
GOING TO TAKE YOU?

OH, PROBABLY ABOUT AN HOUR.

>> OH, THERE DUNLAP, COPS, OFF
HE GOES.

THAT'S WRONG.

THAT'S WRONG.

IF TWO PEOPLE AGREE ON A
CONTRACT, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A

THIRD PARTY COMING IN AND SAYING
YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. BRADY, YOU HAVE ONE FINAL
QUESTION FOR MR. DUNLAP.

>> YOU KNOW, TED, I'VE BEEN
TALKING A LOT ABOUT PROTECTING

OUR PUBLIC LANDS.

MY OPPONENT HAS FIVE ACRES OF
OUR PUBLIC LANDS.

I STOPPED HIM WITH THE HELP OF
SPORTSMAN AROUND THE STATE.

IT SEEMS TO ME THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT, TO PROTECT THE WAY OF

LIFE OF THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO.

I WONDER IF YOU AGREE WITH ME
ABOUT THAT, AND WHAT YOU MIGHT

DO TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC LANDS,
THAT WE ALL GO ONTO USE TO HUNT

AND, AND FISH, AND JUST GO AND
PICK HUCKLEBERRIES, I SUPPOSE,

IN GRAZEVILLE.

>> IDAHO IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL
PLACE TO LIVE, AND, AND YES, I

MOVED UP TO GRANGEVILLE ONCE I
SOLD MY BUSINESS AND HAD THE

FREEDOM TO LIVE ANYWHERE IN
IDAHO, ANYWHERE I WANTED TO

LIVE.

IT'S, IT'S -- IT'S REALLY
GORGEOUS.

THE PUBLIC LAND ISSUE IS, IS --
WE HAVE, WE HAVE PEOPLE, THE

PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO,

AND THEN YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENT,
THAT THAT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE

OF IDAHO, AND, AND A GOVERNMENT
THAT BELONGS TO THE SEVERAL

STATES.

50 STATES OWN OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT
LEGALLY IN OUR CONSTITUTION AND,

AND FOLKS, THIS IS A REALLY, A
REALLY, REALLY SMALL BOOK.

THIS IS YOUR CONSTITUTION.

THIS IS YOUR BILL OF RIGHTS.

THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES
-- THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED

STATES DOES NOT OWN IDAHO.

NONE OF THE FEDS DO.

IDAHO OWNS IDAHO.

BY LAW, THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO
STAND FIRM ON THAT LAW.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PLEASE TRY NOT TO USE THE PROPS
FOR THE RULES DID.

>> OH, THE CONSTITUTION.

>> THAT'S OK.

THAT'S OK.

[LAUGHTER]
>> THE CONSTITUTION IS A DECENT

PROP, SO, MR. BRADY, YOU --
>> OK.

>> YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REBUT
FOR 30 SECONDS.

>> WELL, UM, I DON'T WISH TO
REBUT.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU
WOULD SELL THE PUBLIC LANDS.

I THINK THAT, THAT IF YOU WERE
GOVERNOR, I WERE GOVERNOR, WE

WOULD DEFEND THE STATE'S RIGHTS
AND THE RIGHTS OF OUR, OF OUR

CITIZENS TO GO ON THOSE PUBLIC
LANDS AND TO ENJOY THEM.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE REASON
I'M SUPPORTING A COMPROMISE IN

THE VOTE THAT CONGRESS SIMPSON
HAS PUT TOGETHER, WHICH WAS A

REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO
GO IN THEIR WITH SNOWY

SNOWMOBILES OR A.T.V.'S OR ON
DONKEYS OR ON FOOT, AND IN

FACT --
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THAT'S THE END OF MY TIME.

[LAUGHTER]
>> AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE

REPORTER QUESTIONS IN JUST A
MOMENT, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THIS

SECOND QUIZ QUESTION.

HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED IN THE
LAST ELECTION FOR IDAHO

GOVERNOR?

IN THE LAST ELECTION FOR
GOVERNOR, 411,000, 411,477

PEOPLE VOTED OUT OF A TOTAL OF
679,000,535 REGISTERED VOTERS,

679,335 REGISTERED VOTERS.

WE'LL MOVE ONTO MORE REPORTER
QUESTIONS AND START WITH DAN TO

MR. DUNLAP.

>> MR. DUNLAP, THERE ARE
MILITARY COMMANDERS SAYING THAT

WE, WE NEED TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF, OF FRESH TROOPS IN IRAQ.

THE PROSPECT OF THE PRESIDENT
FEDERALIZING THE NATIONAL GUARD

WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD
DEAL WITH IF YOU WERE GOVERNOR.

WOULD YOU DO WHATSOEVER YOU HAD
IN YOUR POWER AS GOVERNOR TO, TO

STOP OR WOULD YOU SUPPORT
REDEPLOYMENT OF IDAHO TROOPS IN

IRAQ?

>> I WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO
EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO,

TO STOP DEPLOYING TROOPS IN IRAQ
BECAUSE, BECAUSE CONGRESS HAS

NOT DECLARED WAR.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT
CONSTITUTION, YOU WILL FIND

THAT, THAT CONGRESS MUST DECLARE
WAR BEFORE THE PRESIDENT BECOMES

-- BECOMES, BECOMES THE
COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

SEAS NOT COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

NO MONEY CAN BE SPENT.

NOT $60 BILLION, NO MONEY CAN BE
SPENT, NO TROOPS CAN BE SENT

LEGALLY UNTIL IT IS DECLARED A
WAR.

UNTIL THERE IS A DECLARED WAR,
IT IS, IT IS, IT IS -- THE IT IS

THE GOVERNOR'S DUTY TO KEEP
THOSE TROOPS HOME WHERE THEY

BELONG.

>> HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE
LOGISTICS OF THAT?

HOW WOULD YOU STOP THE, THE, THE
UNITED STATES MILITARY FROM

COMING AND SAYING LIVE LOOK
LOOK, YOU GUYS ARE GOING.

>> THE LAW JUST -- I WOULD HAVE
TO FIGHT THEM WITH THE

CONSTITUTION.

I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO OUTSHOOT
THEM.

>> MR. BRADY, WOULD YOU LIKE A
CRACK AT THAT QUESTION?

>> WELL, I APPRECIATE THE
PRINCIPAL YOU ARE TRYING TO, TO

ADVANCE HERE, BUT, BUT, UM, BUT,
BUT THE OVERALL RESPONSIBILITY

FOR, FOR THE PROSECUTION IS THE
PRESIDENT.

I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THE
GOVERNOR, THE PRESIDENT

FEDERALIZE AND TAKE OUR TROOPS
TO, TO WAR AGAIN.

SITTING IN THE OFFICE IN THE
AUDIENCE HERE TODAY IS, IS MY

FIRST ASSISTANT WHO HAS BEEN
DRIVING ME AROUND THE BETTER

PART OF THE YEAR, JUST CAME BACK
FROM 116.

WE HAVE PAID OUR PRICE.

WE HAVE DONE OUR JOB.

WE HAVE BEEN GOOD CITIZENS.

I SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM
STAY HOME AND WHILE, WHILE I

RECOGNIZE THE GOVERNOR, THE
PRESIDENT'S OBLIGATION, I WOULD

TRY TO PERSUADE HIM FROM DOING
THIS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE OUR
PART.

>> THANK YOU.

BETSEY TO, TO MR. BRADY.

>> MR. BRADY, MR. DUNLAP
MENTIONED OUR FAST-GROWING

PRISON POPULATION, AND, INDEED,¬
IT IS GROWING AT A MUCH FASTER

RATE THAN OUR ABILITY TO HOUSE
THOSE, EVEN THOUGH THE CRIME

RATES HAVE REMAINED LOW
THROUGHOUT THIS PERIOD.

IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE
INMATES THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE

SENT THEM OUT OF STATE.

WE HAVE DOUBLE BUNKED CELLS, WE
HAVE TRIED PUTTING THEM IN

TENTS.

AS GOVERNOR, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

SOME.

>> I WENT -- ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT, THAT, WHEN YOU HAVE GOT

TIME.

I'VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING FOR 19
MONTHS, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU

HAVE THE TIME -- THE LUXURY TO
DO IS TALK TO PEOPLE THAT KNOW

MORE THAN YOU DO.

I WENT TO TALK TO TOM EAU
CLAIRE, THE LAST HEAD OF THE

CORRECTION SYSTEMS, AND HERE'S
WHAT HE TOLD ME.

HE SAID THE STATE OF UTAH HAS
HALF AS MANY PRISONERS PER

CAPITA AS IDAHO.

WOULDN'T THAT BE WONDERFUL?

WE CAN DO THAT.

HOW DID THEY DO IT?

THEY STARTED WITH COMMUNITY.

THEY STARTED ON A COMMUNITY
LEVEL.

A COMMUNITY SYSTEM OF, OF TAKING
CARE OF DRUG TREATMENT, OF

INTERDICTION.

OF DIVERSION.

OF HELPING THOSE YOUNG KIDS WHO
GET IN TROUBLE GET, GET PUT BACK

ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE WAYS
THAT UTAH DID IT.

BUT WE SURELY CAN DO BETTER AND,
AND IS LET'S DRIVE IN THAT

DIRECTION.

I WILL ALSO SAY TO YOU THAT I
FAVOR SPECIAL DRUG PRISONS FOR

YOUNG PEOPLE OR WHEREVER THE
CRIMINAL IS, CAN GO FOR DRUG

TREATMENT.

85% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OUR
PRISON ARE ADDICTS TO DRUG OR

ALCOHOL.

IF WE DON'T TREAT THEM, WHAT
HAPPENS?

THEY COME BACK UPON THE ROLES.

WE HAVE GOT TO -- WE HAVE GOT TO
STOP THIS CYCLE, AND THAT'S THE

WAY TO DO IT.

>> THANK YOU, AND I BELIEVE YOU
HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUE, SO

I WILL MOVE ON AND HAVE STAN ASK
YOU A DIFFERENT QUESTION.

>> AS A LIBERTARIAN WHO WANTS TO
KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR

LIVES, I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU
CAN TELL US WHAT YOUR VIEW OF

HOW JOINT RESOLUTION TWO, WHICH
IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE

ONE-MAN, ONE-WOMAN
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, BUT,

OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, GOES
MUCH FARTHER THAN THAT, AND BANS

ANY CIVIL UNION OR, OR ANYTHING
THAT PROXIMATES MARRIAGE,

REGARDLESS OF THE SEX OF THE
COUPLE.

THE SEXES OF THE COUPLE.

SO, SO, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT THIS.

>> MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MISSY IS
OUR BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT POLITICAL BUSINESS.

IT IS NOT UP FOR A MAJORITY
VOTE.

WE CAN SEEK SANCTION FROM OUR
FRIENDS, FROM OUR FAMILY, FROM

OUR CHURCH AND OUR COMMUNITIES,
BUT IT IS NOT UP TO, TO THE MOB

TO TELL US WHETHER WE CAN BE
MARRIED OR WHAT OUR RELATIONSHIP

CAN BE.

WE HAVE A DEMOCRACY -- A
DEMOCRACY IS PEOPLE VOTING ON

WHAT'S FOR LUNCH.

WE DO NOT HAVE A DEMOCRACY IN
THIS COUNTRY.

WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL REP I
PIC.

IT IS FORMED TO PROTECT THE
LIFE, RIBT, AND PURSUIT OF

HAPPINESS FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL
IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THIS IS NOT UP TO THE MAJORITY
VOTE.

HIS I AM ASHAMED THAT OUR STATE
HOUSE PUT THIS IN FRONT OF THE

VOTERS.

THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

I WILL BE PROUD.

I WILL BE PROUD OF THE VOTERS IF
THEY REJECT THIS SOUNDLY

NOVEMBER 7.

>> I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING
YOU.

MR. BRADY, GO AHEAD.

>> WELL, MY FAITH TEACHES ME
THAT MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN

AND A WOMAN.

WE HAVE SUCH A LAW ON THE BOOKS
RIGHT NOW.

THEREFORE, GAY MARRIAGE IS NOT
COMMITTED IN IDAHO, AND I

SUPPORT THAT AS THE GOVERNOR.

H.J.R.2 GOES TOO FAR, AND, AND,
AND IT DEPRIVATES US OF LIBERTY,

SO I AM -- WHAT I AM SAYING TO
PEOPLE IS LET'S GET OUR EYE ON

THE BALL, AND THAT IS EMPHASIZE
TRADITIONAL MARRIAGES, WHICH ARE

FAILING, SO I'VE STARTED THE
MARRIAGE PROTECTION PLAN, WHICH

WOULD REDUCE THE RATE OF DIVORCE
SUBSTANTIALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT'S

REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR
FAMILIES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP?

>> I WOULD LOVE TO ASK
MR. DUNLAP WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT

THE IDEA OF A STATED-RUN
MARRIAGE PROTECTION PLAN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BETSEY RUSSELL.

>> I ESSENTIALLY DIDN'T WANT TO
SAY TOO MUCH, BUT ALL IT IS IS,

IS MARRIAGE COUNSELING THAT'S
BEEN PROVED TO WORK IN A PROGRAM

IN IDAHO FALLS.

BARBARA PETTY AND HER HUSBAND,
TERRY PETTY, ARE GOOD FRIENDS OF

MINE, AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A
PROGRAM CALLED MARRIED AND

LOVING IT.

AND IT'S A SHORT COURSE, FIVE
CLASSES OF TWO HOURS ARE THAT,

THAT HAS BEEN PROVED,
STATISTICALLY, TO REDUCE THE

RATE OF DIVORCE.

IT'S WORKED IN OKLAHOMA.

THERE'S A PROGRAM IN NAPA, WHICH
WORKS, AS WELL, AND THERE'S A

FEDERAL PROGRAM WHICH WANTS TO
HELP FUND THESE CLASSES.

AND WITH THAT FEDERAL PROGRAM,
ALL WE'RE DOING IS OFFERING

PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET
THESE COURSES.

WE WILL GIVE 60,000 TO 70,000
PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH

THE COURSES, AND IT IS ESTIMATED
WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF

DIVORCES BY, PERHAPS, 10,000.

NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY
WORTH DOING.

>> THANK YOU.

BETSEY.

>> SORRY.

>> COULD I FOLLOW-UP?

>> YOU MAY.

>> THANK YOU.

[LAUGHTER]
>> WE HAVE A PERFECT 100-YEAR

RECORD OF REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS GROWING THE STATE

GOVERNMENT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER
YEAR FOR 100 YEARS.

YOU WANT TO SEE A CHANGE?

VOTE FOR A LIBERTARIAN.

>> THANK YOU.

BETSEY TO MR. BRADY.

>> MR. BRADY, FORMER GOVERNOR,
THE FORMER GOVERNOR HAS REFORMS

IN THE MEDICAID PROGRAM, AND
THOSE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF

BEING INVESTIGATE AND HAD
IMPLEMENTED, AND THE FORMER

GOVERNOR SAID HIS IDEA WAS THAT
WE WOULD PROVIDE BETTER HEALTH

CARE BUT SPEND LESS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE
REFORMS AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO ON

MEDICAID?

>> GENERALLY, I FAVORED WHERE HE
WAS GOING.

I FELT THAT WE DO HAVE TO, TO
GET A GRIP ON THE MEDICAID

EXPENSES.

IF WE DON'T, THE MEDICAID IN
PRISON WILL EAT UP ALL OUR

EDUCATION BUDGET.

SO I APPROVE OF THEM IN GENERAL.

BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS -- I WANT
TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.

MY OFFICE IS, IS HERE IN BOISE.

MY CAMPAIGN OFFICE.

THE OTHER DAY, A YOUNG MAN BY
THE NAME OF KEVIN CAME IN WITH

HIS SON, CAMERON, AND HE SAID TO
ME, HE WANTED TO SEEK ME OUT,

AND HE SAID MY SON AND I ARE ONE
SPIDER BITE AWAY FROM FINANCIAL

RUIN.

HE HAD NO HEALTH INSURANCE.

HE WASN'T LIKELY TO GET HEALTH
INSURANCE.

HE MADE $10 AN HOUR.

HE COULDN'T AFFORD HEALTH
INSURANCE.

SO, I THINK THE STATE NEEDS TO,
TO FIND EVERY WAY TO EXTEND

HEALTH CARE TO YOUNG CHILDREN.

MORE OF THEM WHO ARE JUST OVER
THE LINE, THE PARENTS DON'T

QUALIFY BECAUSE OH, MY GOSH, I
MAKE A BUCK TOO MUCH.

WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO LET
THEM COST SHARE AND PARTICIPATE

IN HEALTH CARE BY EXPANDING THE
SYSTEM.

THERE ARE SUCH THINGS GOING ON
IN ILLINOIS, AND WE COULD DO IT

HERE.

>> WE HAVE HIGHER RATES OF
UNINSURED RESIDENTS THAN MANY

STATES.

DO YOU WANT ONLY TO EXPAND
HEALTH CARE TO CHILDREN OR TO

ALL RESIDENTS?

>> OF COURSE NOT.

I WANT TO EXTEND IT TO EVERYONE,
BUT IF YOU START WITH THE

CHILDREN -- REMEMBER, I SAID DO
IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

IF YOU GET KIDS HEALTHY, THEN
THE COST OF THEIR EMERGENCY ROOM

VISITS GOES DOWN.

THEIR -- THEY CAN GO TO SCHOOL
AND BE ATTENTIVE AND STAY THERE,

IMPROVES THEIR EDUCATION.

EVERYTHING BEGINS WITH, WITH
GOOD HEALTH.

BUT YES, I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER
STORY IF YOU HAVE TIME FOR IT.

>> VERY LITTLE STORY.

[LAUGHTER]
>> THERE ARE, IN THIS STATE,

CLINICS AND HEALTH SYSTEMS THAT
OFFER PEOPLE ACCESS FOR, FOR

$10, $15.

IT'S BASED ON THE ABILITY TO
PAY.

TERRY RILEY HERE IN NAPA, BOISE,
IS AN EXAMPLE.

THERE ARE 10 OF THEM.

THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO 90,000
PEOPLE.

WE SHOULD EXPAND THEM.

>> MR. DUNLAP, MEDICAID REFORM.

>> IS 15% OF THE PAYMENTS INTO
OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ARE FROM

PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.

35% OF THE PAYMENTS INTO OUR
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS FROM

PRIVATE INSURANCE.

THE REMAINING 50% ARE GOVERNMENT
PAYMENTS.

LET'S PRETEND THAT WE ALL GET
OUR GROCERIES THAT WAY, THAT WE

PAY 15% AND 85% AS IT IS GIVEN
TO US.

LET'S PRETEND OUR AUTOMOBILES
ARE BOUGHT THAT WAY.

WE PAY 15%.

85% IS GIVEN TO US.

WE'RE GOING TOHAVE PEOPLE DRIVIG
HOME WITH A FERRARI FULL OF

CAVIAR.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HELP US.

THE HEALTH CARE USED TO BE 120
OF OUR ECONOMY AND NOW IT'S 20%

OF THE ECONOMY.

IF WE KEEP MEDDLING WITH IT, IF
THE GOVERNMENT KEEPS INSULATING

PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO PAY AND
INSULATING HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS

FROM HAVING TO ECONOMIZE, WE'LL
SEE THIS EXPLODE UNTIL THE THE

AMOUNT IN THE SCHOOLS IS MATCHED
BY THE 60% WE'RE PUTTING INTO

HEALTH CARE.

>> DAN, WE HAVE A FINAL QUESTION
FOR MR. DUNLAP FIRST.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE IT TWO
BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH ABOUT

WATER.

QUICKLY.

>> REAL QUICK.

>> YEAH.

>> TWO BHOINS LEFT.

>> CAN YOU SAY WHETHER YOU AGREE
WITH, WITH MR. BRADY ABOUT,

ABOUT NOT REACHING THE, THE DAMS
AND THEN, PERHAPS, A MORE

ECONOMICS QUESTION, HOW WOULD
YOU RESOLVE THE DISPUTE BETWEEN

THE, THE SENIOR WATER RIGHTS
HOLDERS FROM, FROM THE UPPER

SNAKE RIVER PLANE WHERE
MR. BRADY IS FROM AND THE JUNIOR

WATER RIGHTS HOLDERS THAT WAS
CONFOUNDING POLICYMAKERS?

>> YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS ON THE
FIRST QUESTION.

>> THE DAM'S ISSUE IS THE DAM
SALMON ISSUE IS SOMETHING I HAVE

SEEN BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH FOR
MANY YEARS, AND IT NEVER REACHES

THE END ZONE.

IT IS TIME FOR THE GOVERNOR TO
BE DECISIVE, TO FORM A PANEL,

HAVE IT TELEVISED, WIDELY
PUBLICIZED.

I WANT TO SEE ALL THOSE GUYS IN
THE SAME ROOM DUKING IT OUT, AND

WHOEVER WINS, I WON'T BE THE
ONLY ONE SUPPORTING THEM, WE

WILL ALL BE BEHIND THEM.

>> AND THE AQUIFERS.

>> THE AQUIFER, SENIOR WATER
RIGHTS IS A MATTER OF LAW.

WE CAN'T JUST TAKE THAT AWAY AND
REMAKE THE LAW.

>> MR. BRADY, ON THE AQUIFER.

>> THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION.

, AND WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A WAY
THROUGH THIS.

THERE MUST BE, FIRST OF ALL,
FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS

RECHARGE THE AQUIFER.

WE HAVE GOT TO PUT MORE WATER IN
THE SYSTEM.

AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

THIS, THIS -- THE SNOW IS GOING
TO, TO -- THE WATER IS GOING TO

COME OFF THE MOUNTAINS EARLIER.

WE'VE GOT TO CAPTURE IT.

WE HAVE GOT TO PUT IT IN THE
GROUND SO THERE'S MORE, MORE TO

WORK WITH.

SO RECHARGE IS, IS CERTAINLY A
FUNDAMENTAL SOLUTION WHETHER YOU

ARE UPPER VALLEY OR LOWER
VALLEY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
CANDIDATES.

IT'S NOW TIME FOR YOUR CLOSING
STATEMENTS.

EACH OF YOU HAS A INUTE AND A
HALF FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.

AND MR. BRADY, YOU MAY GO FIRST.

>> WELL, WE HAVE HAD A GOOD TIME
HERE TONIGHT.

I CERTAINLY HAVE ENJOYED, IT
TED, BEING HERE, AND I THANK

EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE AND I
YOU THIS FOR LISTENING.

WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO HERE,
AND YOU SAW THIS, THIS, IN THIS

EXCHANGE, WE TRY TO ANSWER
COMPLEX QUESTIONS IN 60 SECONDS.

WELL, IT'S NOT THAT EASY.

WHAT YOU REALLY ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT, I HOPE, IN CHOOSING THE

NEXT GOVERNOR IS NOT HOW THEY
SPARRED IT OUT ON THESE ISSUES,

BUT WHAT THEIR VALUES ARE.

I HAVE TALKED IN THIS CAMPAIGN
-- I FOUND MYSELF TALKING ABOUT

MY DAD.

MY DAD TAUGHT ME SOME, SOME
VALUES IS S HONESTY.

FAIRNESS.

AND HONOR.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS WHICH I
CANNOT BE MY FATHER'S SON AND

NOT FOLLOW THOSE.

ANOTHER THING I WANT YOU TO KNOW
IS, IS THAT I, AS I SAID

EARLIER, I WON'T BE THE PRO
DEMOCRAT OR THE PRO REPUBLICAN

CANDIDATE.

I WILL BE THE PRO IDAHO
GOVERNOR.

DO WHAT'S BEST.

I WILL TRY TO UNITE THE STATES
WITHOUT REGARD TO PARTISAN.

PEOPLE ARE TIRED T THEY WANT
SOMEONE WHO, AS THE PRESIDENT

SAID, BE A UNITER, NOT A
DIVIDER.

YOU KNOW, IN MY HOMETOWN, WE
HAVE SOMETHING CALLED A

PROGRESSIVE DINNER.

ALL THE CHURCHES IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD COME TOGETHER, AND

THEY HAVE A MEAL WHERE WE GO ONE
PLACE TO ONE PLACE TO ONE PLACE.

WE DO THAT OUT OF RESPECT FOR
ONE ANOTHER, TO SHOW A MUTUAL

SUPPORT.

I THINK WE NEED THAT SPIRIT IN
THE GOVERNMENT.

WE NEED TO DO THINGS TO BRING
OURSELVES TOGETHER AS MUCH AS

POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

MR. BRADY.

NOW IT IS YOUR TURN, MR. DUNN
LAN, FOR A CLOSING COMMENT.

>> I HAVE COMPARED CENSUS DATA
TO, TO VOTING REGISTRATION AND

VOTING DATA, AND WE HAVE 60% OF
THE PEOPLE DON'T VOTE IN OUR

ELECTIONS.

SO, IF HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO
DON'T VOTE HAVE SEEN SOMEONE

HERE TONIGHT WORTH VOTING FOR
THEY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT BEFORE,

I WANT THEM TO GET OUT AND VOTE.

IF HALF THE PEOPLE THAT NORMALLY
VOTE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT

VOTE FOR ME, WE WIN BY A
LANDSLIDE.

WE COULD HAVE SMALLER
GOVERNMENT, INNOVATIVE&PROGRAMS

THAT HAVEN'T BEEN OFFERED
BEFORE.

I WANT TO YOU CHECK OUT THE
WEBSITE, WWW.TEDDUNLAP AND CHECK

IT OUT.

>> YOU PUT ME IN THE RARE
OPPORTUNITY AS MODERATOR OF

ENDING A BIT BEFORE TIME, SO I
WILL THROW OUT ONE MORE QUESTION

TO BOTH OF YOU.

WHAT'S THE LAST BOOK YOU READ,
MR. DUNLAP?

>> THAT'S THE LAST -- WHAT'S THE
LAST BOOK?

I THINK THERE WAS -- "UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES" COMES TO MIND.

GREAT BOOK.

OUGHT TO READ IT.

>> UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

MR. BRADY?

>> I JUST FINISHED A BOOK BY
JOHN REMBERS, WHO IS A TEACHER

AT A COLLEGE.

MAY NOT BE FULL-TIME NOW, AND HE
GREW UP IN A FAMILY THAT, THAT

TRAPPED IN STANLEY BASIN, AS A
KID, AND IT'S A GREAT STORY.

NOW THE REST OF THE STORY IS HE
GOES BACK TO THERE NOW, AND HE'S

SORT OF ANGUISHED ABOUT THE WAY
THINGS HAPPEN.

HE REMEMBS WHAT IT'S LIKE AND
IT'S A WONDERFUL BOOK.

IT'S CALLED "TRAP LINES."

>> AND FOR MR. BRADY, FIRST, WHO
IS YOUR POLITICAL ROLE MODEL?

>> YOU KNOW, I HAVE SAID THOMAS
JEFFERSON AT TIMES.

I HAVE SAID JIMMY CARTER AT
TIMES.

BUT REALLY, I THINK THE GREATEST
MAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY IS

ABRAHAM LINCOLN BECAUSE IT JUST
STARTS WITH WHO THE MAN WAS AND

WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE
AMOUNT OF TIME OF GREATEST

STRESS.

>> MR. DUNLAP, YOUR POLITICAL
ROLE MODEL?

>> GOODNESS, LET ME CHEAT AND GO
BACK TO THE REAL LINCOLN BY

THOMAS DEALONZO, TRY IT OUT SOME
TIME, AND JEFFERSON, THOSE GUYS,

GOOD GUYS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH THIS.

CONCLUDES OUR FINAL DEBATE NOT
ONLY OF THE GENERAL ELECTION

SEASON BUT ALSO THE PRIMARY
ELECTION SEASON.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

THEY STARTED EIGHT MONTHS AGO
WITH THE PRIMARY ELECTION

DEBATES, AND NOW ARE CONCLUDING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT ANY OF THESE DEBATES,

INCLUDING STREAMING THEM ON OUR
WEBSITE, PLEASE GO THERE.

IT'S KATU.COM

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND
THE SCENES THAT HELP PUT ON THE

DEBATES YOU THAT CAN'T SEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM ALL.

THANK THE CANDIDATES FOR SHOWING
UP AND THE REPORTER PANEL AND

THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN ONCE
AGAIN TO THE IDAHO DEBATES.

PLEASE, PLEASE EXERCISE YOUR
RIGHT TO VOTE ON TUESDAY,

NOVEMBER 7.

I'M MARSHALL FAULK.

GOOD NIGHT.