1 00:00:04,270 --> 00:00:05,438 * * 2 00:00:05,438 --> 00:00:07,007 >>> WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES, A LOOK AT THE 3 00:00:07,007 --> 00:00:08,808 CANDIDATES ON THE 2014 BALLOT. 4 00:00:08,808 --> 00:00:11,811 THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE 5 00:00:11,811 --> 00:00:13,546 IDAHO PRES WOMEN VOTERS OF IDAHO AND IDAHO 6 00:00:13,546 --> 00:00:15,815 PUBLIC TELEVISION. 7 00:00:15,815 --> 00:00:19,085 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY BOISE STATE 8 00:00:19,085 --> 00:00:21,821 UNIVERSITY'S SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SERVICE, DEVOTED TO BUILDING 9 00:00:21,821 --> 00:00:24,824 FUTURE CIVIC AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGH 10 00:00:24,824 --> 00:00:29,529 INTERDISCIPLINARY PROBLEM-SOLVING, REAL-WORLD 11 00:00:29,529 --> 00:00:31,031 RESEARCH AND POLICY STUDIES, AND THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE YOU CAN 12 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:34,000 ONLY GET HERE AT THE STATE CAPITOL. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,736 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU BY CONTRIBUTIONS 14 00:00:36,736 --> 00:00:38,204 TO THE IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 15 00:00:38,204 --> 00:00:43,009 THANK YOU. 16 00:00:43,009 --> 00:00:46,146 >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES AT THE IDAHO 17 00:00:46,146 --> 00:00:47,113 PUBLIC TELEVISION STUDIOS. 18 00:00:47,113 --> 00:00:49,749 THIS IS THE FIFTH OF SEVEN DEBATES WE'RE HOSTING BEFORE THE 19 00:00:49,749 --> 00:00:51,951 NOVEMBER 4th ELECTION. 20 00:00:51,951 --> 00:00:54,120 TONIGHT, THREE CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR TAKE THE STAGE TO ASK 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,288 FOR YOUR VOTE. 22 00:00:55,288 --> 00:00:58,491 THE GOVERNOR OF IDAHO HAS SUPREME EXECUTIVE POWER IN THE 23 00:00:58,491 --> 00:01:02,962 STATE AND IS TASKED WITH ENSURING ALL STATE LAWS ARE 24 00:01:02,962 --> 00:01:03,263 EXECUTED. 25 00:01:03,263 --> 00:01:05,632 THE OFFICE ISSUES EXECUTIVE ORDERS, PROPOSES A BUDGET AND 26 00:01:05,632 --> 00:01:08,335 HAS VETO POWER OVER THE LEGISLATURE. 27 00:01:08,335 --> 00:01:10,970 THE GOVERNOR IS THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF IDAHO'S 28 00:01:10,970 --> 00:01:13,173 MILITARY FORCES AND IS PRESIDENT OF THE STATE LAND BOARD. 29 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:16,443 I WANT TO WELCOME THE CANDIDATES, A.J. BALUKOFF, JOHN 30 00:01:16,443 --> 00:01:19,245 BUJAK, AND GOVERNOR C.L. BUTCH OTTER. 31 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:23,383 A.J. BALUKOFF IS A BUSINESSMAN AND A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF 32 00:01:23,383 --> 00:01:23,717 TRUSTEES. 33 00:01:23,717 --> 00:01:27,821 HE SERVED ON A NUMBER OF OTHER BOARDS, INCLUDING BOY SCOUTS OF 34 00:01:27,821 --> 00:01:28,088 AMERICA. 35 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:31,558 HE HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ACCOUNTING FROM BRIGHAM YOUNG 36 00:01:31,558 --> 00:01:31,891 UNIVERSITY. 37 00:01:31,891 --> 00:01:35,362 JOHN BUJAK IS A FORM OF PROSECUTING ATTORNEY FOR CANYON 38 00:01:35,362 --> 00:01:35,628 COUNTY. 39 00:01:35,628 --> 00:01:39,299 HE HAS PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS A DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, A 40 00:01:39,299 --> 00:01:41,568 DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL AND GENERAL COUNCIL TO THE HUMAN 41 00:01:41,568 --> 00:01:42,035 RIGHTS COMMISSION. 42 00:01:42,035 --> 00:01:46,940 HE ATTENDED COLLEGE OF IDAHO AND GONZAGA UNIVERSITY'S SCHOOL OF 43 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:47,107 LAW. 44 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:52,145 GOVERNOR BUTCH OTTER HAS SERVED TWO TERMS AS IDAHO'S ACHIEVE 45 00:01:52,145 --> 00:01:54,748 EXECUTIVE OFFICER. 46 00:01:54,748 --> 00:01:55,849 HE SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE. 47 00:01:55,849 --> 00:01:58,885 HE HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE FROM COLLEGE 48 00:01:58,885 --> 00:01:59,686 OF IDAHO. 49 00:01:59,686 --> 00:02:02,322 I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS SELECTED BY THE 50 00:02:02,322 --> 00:02:06,092 IDAHO PRESS CLUB WHO WILL ASK THE CANDIDATES QUESTIONS. 51 00:02:06,092 --> 00:02:11,064 BETSY RUSSELL, KEVIN RICHARD, AND ROCKY BARKER. 52 00:02:11,064 --> 00:02:17,337 I'M MELISSA DAVLIN, COHOST OF IDAHO REPORTS. 53 00:02:17,337 --> 00:02:25,879 I'M MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE EACH CANDIDATE WILL BE GIVEN ONE 54 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:27,447 MINUTE FOR OPENING COMMENTS. 55 00:02:27,447 --> 00:02:31,184 WE DREW NUMBERS A FEW MINUTES AGO TO SEE WHO WOULD GO FIRST 56 00:02:31,184 --> 00:02:33,520 AND MR. BALUKOFF YOU HAVE THAT HONOR. 57 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,724 >> THIS ELECTION IS A REFERENDUM ON GOVERNOR OTTER'S JOB 58 00:02:37,724 --> 00:02:38,925 PERFORMANCE. 59 00:02:38,925 --> 00:02:42,462 VOTERS MUST DECIDE: HAS GOVERNOR OTTER EARNED THAT RARE 60 00:02:42,462 --> 00:02:43,830 THIRD TERM? 61 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:46,366 TONIGHT, I WILL TALK ABOUT GOVERNOR OTTER'S CRONYISM AND 62 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:50,737 HOW FAR BEHIND WE'VE FALLEN IN EDUCATION AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES. 63 00:02:50,737 --> 00:02:54,307 BUT FIRST, I WANT TO TELL YOU WHO I REALLY AM. 64 00:02:54,307 --> 00:02:56,910 I'M A SMALL BUSINESSMAN. 65 00:02:56,910 --> 00:03:05,051 I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 44 YEARS, FOR 17 YEARS I HAVE 66 00:03:05,051 --> 00:03:08,621 SERVED AS A TRUSTEE ON ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL 67 00:03:08,621 --> 00:03:11,491 DISTRICTS IN THE STATE. 68 00:03:11,491 --> 00:03:15,995 I'VE ALSO FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS SERVED AS A TRUSTEE ON MANY 69 00:03:15,995 --> 00:03:16,796 NONPROFIT BOARDS. 70 00:03:16,796 --> 00:03:23,269 I'VE CREATED GOOD JOBS, STRONG SCHOOLS, AND MANY STABLE 71 00:03:23,269 --> 00:03:23,636 ORGANIZATIONS. 72 00:03:23,636 --> 00:03:28,742 WHEN ENDORSING ME, THE TIMES NEWS WROTE, GOVERNOR OTTER'S 73 00:03:28,742 --> 00:03:32,112 NARRATIVE IS A WORK OF FICTION. 74 00:03:32,112 --> 00:03:35,982 THE BEST CHANCE FOR TURNING THE STATE AROUND IS TO ELECT A 75 00:03:35,982 --> 00:03:38,351 PRAGMATIC LEADER, THAT'S A.J. 76 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:38,651 BALUKOFF. 77 00:03:38,651 --> 00:03:41,187 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 78 00:03:41,187 --> 00:03:42,722 MR. BUJAK, YOUR COMMENTS NEXT. 79 00:03:42,722 --> 00:03:45,625 >> I'M JOHN BUJAK, I'M RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR BECAUSE I THINK THE 80 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:48,528 PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO DESERVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN 81 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:49,896 POLITICS AS USUAL. 82 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:51,831 I'M SHARING THE STAGE TONIGHT WITH TWO CANDIDATES WHO ARE 83 00:03:51,831 --> 00:03:54,934 GOING TO GIVE YOU THEIR IDEAS THAT WILL RESULT IN LARGER 84 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:56,469 GOVERNMENT AND MORE SPENDING. 85 00:03:56,469 --> 00:04:00,674 THEY BOTH SUPPORT AND EMBRACE COMMON CORE, THEY EMBRACE 86 00:04:00,674 --> 00:04:03,309 OBAMACARE AND MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN 87 00:04:03,309 --> 00:04:07,080 REGAINING CONTROL OF IDAHO'S LANDS FROM THE FEDERAL 88 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:07,414 GOVERNMENT. 89 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:11,251 I HAVE PRACTICAL CONSERVATIVE IDEAS ON HOW TO SOLVE THE ISSUES 90 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:13,720 FACING IDAHO TODAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THEM WITH YOU 91 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,156 DURING THE COURSE OF THIS DEBATE, THANK YOU. 92 00:04:16,156 --> 00:04:17,090 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 93 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:19,259 GOVERNOR OTTER, YOUR REMARKS, PLEASE. 94 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:23,630 >> GOOD EVENING AND LET ME BEGIN BY THANKING NOT ONLY PUBLIC 95 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:26,966 TELEVISION, BUT ALSO, THE PRESS CLUB AND THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN 96 00:04:26,966 --> 00:04:30,904 VOTERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUES AS TO WHY I 97 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:34,007 BELIEVE THAT I DESERVE A THIRD TERM AS GOVERNOR. 98 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:37,243 IF WE LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND THE FACT THAT 99 00:04:37,243 --> 00:04:43,750 IDAHO HAS LED THIS NATION OUT OF A VERY, VERY TOUGH RECESSION, 100 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:47,253 LED TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOW NUMBER ONE IN THE PERSONAL 101 00:04:47,253 --> 00:04:51,925 INCOME GROWTH, NUMBER TWO IN THE BEST PLACE TO START A BUSINESS 102 00:04:51,925 --> 00:04:56,463 AND NUMBER THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX IN THE BEST FINANCIALLY 103 00:04:56,463 --> 00:04:58,965 MANAGED STATES IN THE UNITED STATES. 104 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:02,235 AND WE DID THAT BY CUTTING BACK ON GOVERNMENT. 105 00:05:02,235 --> 00:05:06,306 WHEN THE RECESSION BEGAN AND OUR REVENUES WENT DOWN, WE HAD TO 106 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:12,045 CUT BACK ON GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN INCREASE TAXES. 107 00:05:12,045 --> 00:05:15,582 AND SO I BELIEVE THAT IDAHO DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO 108 00:05:15,582 --> 00:05:20,153 CONTINUE TO LEAD THIS NATION OUT OF THIS RECESSION AND CONTINUE 109 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:24,057 TO LEAD IN THE METHOD THAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS INSTITUTED FOR 110 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:25,625 OUR GREAT REPUBLIC. 111 00:05:25,625 --> 00:05:25,992 THANK YOU. 112 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:28,528 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 113 00:05:28,528 --> 00:05:31,698 THE FIRST QUESTION IS FOR YOU, MR. GOVERNOR. 114 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:35,001 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, YOU'VE SAID THAT YOUR TOP THREE PRIORITIES 115 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:40,006 ARE EDUCATION, HIGHER PAID, HIGHER SKILLED WORKERS AND 116 00:05:40,006 --> 00:05:40,507 INFRASTRUCTURE. 117 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:43,376 ON INFRASTRUCTURE, YOUR ROADS PROPOSAL WENT NOWHERE. 118 00:05:43,376 --> 00:05:48,515 ON EDUCATION, YOUR EDUCATION REFORM PROPOSAL WAS REJECTED BY 119 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:49,916 THE VOTERS TWO YEARS AGO. 120 00:05:49,916 --> 00:05:54,621 AND ON WAGES, IDAHO'S PER CAPITA INCOME HAS DROPPED FROM 43rd 121 00:05:54,621 --> 00:05:57,924 WHEN YOU WERE ELECTED GOVERNOR TO 50th AMONG THE STATES AHEAD 122 00:05:57,924 --> 00:05:59,859 OF ONLY MISSISSIPPI. 123 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:02,128 WHAT IS YOUR LEGACY AS GOVERNOR? 124 00:06:02,128 --> 00:06:05,198 WHY SHOULD VOTERS EXPECT ANYTHING FROM THE THIRD OTTER 125 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:07,600 TERM OTHER THAN MORE OF THE SAME? 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,671 >> WELL, FIRST OFF, YOU HAVE CORRECTLY OUTLINED EXACTLY WHAT 127 00:06:11,671 --> 00:06:15,675 MY EFFORTS ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON FOR THE NEXT FOUR 128 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:16,209 YEARS. 129 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:20,780 AND I WOULD TELL YOU BETSY, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG YOU'VE 130 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:23,683 BEEN REPORTING IN IDAHO, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY COULD 131 00:06:23,683 --> 00:06:27,854 TELL ME THEY HAVE EVER SEEN A FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR EDUCATION IN 132 00:06:27,854 --> 00:06:32,359 IDAHO AND MOVING EDUCATION FORWARD THAT HAD BIPARTISAN 133 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:36,229 SUPPORT AND THAT CAME OUT OF THE OTTER ADMINISTRATION JUST TWO 134 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:36,996 YEARS AGO. 135 00:06:36,996 --> 00:06:41,968 YES, WE HAD SOME SETBACKS, WE HAD SOME SETBACKS ON 136 00:06:41,968 --> 00:06:43,436 INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL. 137 00:06:43,436 --> 00:06:50,176 BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE FOLKS IN IDAHO 138 00:06:50,176 --> 00:06:52,712 RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO NEED SOME INFRASTRUCTURE CORRECTION. 139 00:06:52,712 --> 00:06:55,982 WE DO NEED SOME INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT. 140 00:06:55,982 --> 00:07:00,220 THE 5,000 BRIDGES THAT WE GOT, THE 16,000 MILES OF ROADS IN THE 141 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:04,124 STATE OF IDAHO, IF THEY'RE NOT IN DISREPAIR NOW, THEY WILL BE 142 00:07:04,124 --> 00:07:08,395 IN DISREPAIR AS THE POLLS SAID WITHIN 10 YEARS. 143 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:11,031 WHETHER IT'S ACCELERATE IDAHO, WHETHER IT'S THE 20 144 00:07:11,031 --> 00:07:15,969 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE TASK FORCE WHICH HAS 145 00:07:15,969 --> 00:07:22,409 BILATERAL, BIPARTISAN, BICAMERAL SUPPORT, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I 146 00:07:22,409 --> 00:07:26,613 THINK THAT THE LEGACY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS A WELL EDUCATED 147 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:28,882 WORKFORCE THAT'S PREPARED TOMORROW THE JOBS THAT THE 148 00:07:28,882 --> 00:07:30,150 WORLD'S GOING TO DEMAND. 149 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:31,051 >> ALL RIGHT. 150 00:07:31,051 --> 00:07:38,158 THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR MR. BALUKOFF FROM KEVIN RICHARD. 151 00:07:38,158 --> 00:07:40,994 >> MR. BALUKOFF, YOUR PRIORITIES ARE NOT TERRIBLY DIFFERENT FROM 152 00:07:40,994 --> 00:07:42,429 THE INCUMBENT GOVERNOR'S. 153 00:07:42,429 --> 00:07:45,999 YOU TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE EDUCATION TASK FORCE 154 00:07:45,999 --> 00:07:50,437 RECOMMENDATIONS, CREATING HIGHER PAYING JOBS, GOVERNMENT 155 00:07:50,437 --> 00:07:50,804 ACCOUNTABILITY. 156 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:53,173 BUT YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED IN STATEWIDE OFFICE, YOU HAVE NEVER 157 00:07:53,173 --> 00:07:57,811 HELD A PARTISAN OFFICE AND YOU WOULD BE DEALING WITH AN 158 00:07:57,811 --> 00:07:59,546 OVERWHELMINGLY REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE THAT OVER THE PAST 159 00:07:59,546 --> 00:08:03,750 FEW YEARS HASN'T ALWAYS WORKED VERY WELL WITH THE REPUBLICAN 160 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:04,017 GOVERNOR. 161 00:08:04,017 --> 00:08:08,021 HOW CAN VOTERS EXPECT A DIFFERENT OUTCOME OR A MORE 162 00:08:08,021 --> 00:08:09,389 PRODUCTIVE OUTCOME IF YOU'RE ELECTED? 163 00:08:09,389 --> 00:08:13,326 >> IF YOU FIRST LOOK AT GOVERNOR OTTER'S RECORD WITH AN 164 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:15,695 OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF HIS OWN PARTY, HE HASN'T ACCOMPLISHED 165 00:08:15,695 --> 00:08:16,296 THAT MUCH. 166 00:08:16,296 --> 00:08:18,865 I'VE BEEN DOWN IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR 17 YEARS 167 00:08:18,865 --> 00:08:21,668 TESTIFYING ON EDUCATION BILLS AND TALKING TO LEGISLATORS ON 168 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:23,970 EDUCATION ISSUES. 169 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:26,139 AND I KNOW MANY OF THE LEGISLATORS. 170 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:28,675 AND WHILE I'VE BEEN TRAVELING AROUND THE STATE, VISITING 171 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:33,079 PEOPLE, I'VE MADE IT A POINT TO CALL ON CURRENTLY SERVING 172 00:08:33,079 --> 00:08:37,517 LEGISLATORS AND TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, TO MEET THEM AND TO TALK 173 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:41,154 ABOUT IF I WIN THIS RACE, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. 174 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:43,690 AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH ME AND 175 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:44,991 I WILL WORK WITH THEM. 176 00:08:44,991 --> 00:08:47,994 I'M NOT HERE TO FURTHER A PARTISAN AGENDA. 177 00:08:47,994 --> 00:08:51,598 I'M HERE TO MAKE THE STATE BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS OF IDAHO 178 00:08:51,598 --> 00:08:56,069 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY A MAJORITY OF OUR LEGISLATORS WANT 179 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:57,270 TO DO THAT, TOO. 180 00:08:57,270 --> 00:09:00,674 THEY WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE SCHOOLKIDS AND FOR THE 181 00:09:00,674 --> 00:09:03,376 HARD-WORKING PEOPLE OF IDAHO. 182 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:06,379 >> REALISTICALLY MR. BALUKOFF, DURING THAT DOWNTURN, WHAT WOULD 183 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:10,650 YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE 184 00:09:10,650 --> 00:09:10,950 DIFFERENTLY? 185 00:09:10,950 --> 00:09:15,488 >> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK MAKING TAX CUTS WHEN THE STATE REVENUE 186 00:09:15,488 --> 00:09:21,194 GOES DOWN AND WHEN YOU HAVE -- YOU'RE UNDERFUNDING SCHOOLS AND 187 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:24,397 YOU HAVE $350 MILLION OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON BRIDGES 188 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:25,965 WAS A MISTAKE. 189 00:09:25,965 --> 00:09:29,836 I WOULD HAVE USED THAT MONEY TO PUT PEOPLE TO WORK REPAIRING THE 190 00:09:29,836 --> 00:09:34,974 ROADS AND BRIDGES AND MAKING A DENT IN THAT DEFERRED 191 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:37,310 MAINTENANCE ON ROADS AND BRIDGES. 192 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:43,583 THAT WOULD HAVE PUT PEOPLE TO WORK AND IT'S PEOPLE SPENDING 193 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:46,219 MONEY AT BUSINESSES THAT DRIVES THE ECONOMY, IT'S NOT TAX CUTS. 194 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:50,623 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM ROCKY BARKER FOR MR. BUJAK. 195 00:09:50,623 --> 00:09:54,260 >> MR. BUJAK, YOU SAID YOU WANT TO AVOID DEPENDENCY ON THE 196 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:55,995 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND SHRINK ITS SIZE. 197 00:09:55,995 --> 00:09:58,698 POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT SINCE I STARTED COVERING 198 00:09:58,698 --> 00:10:01,434 IDAHO AND YET HERE WE ARE. 199 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:03,703 HOW WILL YOU SUCCEED WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS FAILED AND 200 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:07,273 WHAT SERVICES AND PROGRAMS SHOULD PEOPLE EXPECT YOU TO 201 00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:09,175 SHRINK IF YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL? 202 00:10:09,175 --> 00:10:11,544 >> ROCKY THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I THINK THE REASON 203 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:14,914 THAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING THE SAME THING HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN 204 00:10:14,914 --> 00:10:18,752 IS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT IN THIS BOX IN PART BY THE MEDIA 205 00:10:18,752 --> 00:10:20,387 QUITE FRANKLY, TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO PARTIES THAT 206 00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:21,654 THEY CAN CHOOSE FROM. 207 00:10:21,654 --> 00:10:24,357 AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE 208 00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:27,260 DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THEY HAVE THE SAME AGENDA WHEN IT COMES TO HOW 209 00:10:27,260 --> 00:10:30,096 THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE 210 00:10:30,096 --> 00:10:32,665 ANYTHING THAT THEY PROMISED TO DO AND YET PEOPLE IN IDAHO 211 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:34,834 CONTINUE TO ELECT THEM TO OFFICE. 212 00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:38,038 THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS I'M A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE. 213 00:10:38,038 --> 00:10:40,774 I'M NOT BEHOLDEN TO REPUBLICANS OR THE DEMOCRATS, THEORY AGENDA 214 00:10:40,774 --> 00:10:42,676 OR ANY SPECIAL INTEREST. 215 00:10:42,676 --> 00:10:46,579 THE KEY TO IDAHO'S FUTURE AND THE KEY TO SHRINKING THE SIZE OF 216 00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:49,649 GOVERNMENT AND MAKING GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT REALLY IS IN 217 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,018 SPURRING OUR ECONOMY, AND I THINK THAT THE WAY YOU DO THAT 218 00:10:52,018 --> 00:10:54,688 HERE IN IDAHO IS DOING TWO THINGS. 219 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:57,157 ONE, YOU'VE GOT TO GET ACCESS TO OUR LANDS FROM THE FEDERAL 220 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:57,490 GOVERNMENT. 221 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:00,493 IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATES THAT ARE LEADING THE WAY OUT OF THE 222 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:03,530 RECESSION, THEY ARE ENERGY EXPORTERS AND IDAHO COULD TAKE 223 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:09,736 ADVANTAGE OF THE SAME THING IF IT COULD GET ACCESS TO ITS 224 00:11:09,736 --> 00:11:10,003 LANDS. 225 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:12,906 WE COULD EVEN TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER SOURCES OF ENERGY LIKE 226 00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:15,875 FOURTH GENERATION NUCLEAR GENERATION WITH THE THORIUM 227 00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:17,544 DEPOSITS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN IDAHO IN ABUNDANCE. 228 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:20,647 THESE ARE THINGS THAT COULD HELP LEAD US OUT OF THE RECESSION. 229 00:11:20,647 --> 00:11:24,451 THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO IS STOP GIVING SPECIAL INTEREST TAX 230 00:11:24,451 --> 00:11:26,920 EXEMPTIONS TO BIG BUSINESS TO LURE THEM HERE. 231 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,554 THAT DOESN'T WORK. 232 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:30,623 WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON GROWING THE SMALL BUSINESSES 233 00:11:30,623 --> 00:11:33,293 THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND YOU DO THAT BY REDUCING TAXES AND 234 00:11:33,293 --> 00:11:37,097 CREATING A TAX STRUCTURE THAT'S FAIR, LOW AND PREDICTABLE. 235 00:11:37,097 --> 00:11:40,734 IF WE CAN GROW SMALL BUSINESS, WE CAN HAVE A GREATER EFFECT 236 00:11:40,734 --> 00:11:44,738 THAN LUGUBRIOUS BIG BUSINESS IN WITH THESE SPECIAL INTEREST TAX 237 00:11:44,738 --> 00:11:45,405 EXEMPTIONS. 238 00:11:45,405 --> 00:11:48,675 >> ROCKY, YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP? 239 00:11:48,675 --> 00:11:52,112 >> SO MR. BUJAK, YOU'VE BEEN CHARGED WITH MULTIPLE FELONIES, 240 00:11:52,112 --> 00:11:56,750 YOU'VE PLED GUILTY TO FAILURE TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT, WHY SHOULD 241 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:57,684 VOTERS TRUST YOU? 242 00:11:57,684 --> 00:12:03,256 >> WHEN IT COMES TO MY HISTORY AND I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I'M 243 00:12:03,256 --> 00:12:05,492 SURPRISED THAT I GET THE QUESTIONS ABOUT SCANDAL WITH 244 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:08,528 GOVERNOR OTTER NEXT TO ME HERE, I WAS CHARGED AND ACCUSED OF 245 00:12:08,528 --> 00:12:11,898 DOING A LOT AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE SYSTEM CAN ACCUSE ANYBODY IN 246 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:13,333 THIS STATE OF ANYTHING. 247 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:16,803 AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THESE CASES WENT BEFORE A JURY AND THE 248 00:12:16,803 --> 00:12:19,005 PEOPLE IN THE FORM OF A JURY. 249 00:12:19,005 --> 00:12:20,273 THEY SAID I WAS NOT GUILTY. 250 00:12:20,273 --> 00:12:22,242 I WAS CLEARED OF ANY WRONGDOING. 251 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,878 AND SO PEOPLE SHOULD RELY ON THOSE JURY VERDICTS, BUT I THINK 252 00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:27,647 THEY SHOULD ALSO TAKE SOMETHING ELSE AWAY. 253 00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:31,818 ONE, I'VE BEEN TREATED POORLY BY A SYSTEM THAT'S BUILT UP OF THE 254 00:12:31,818 --> 00:12:34,754 GOOD OLD BOYS THAT ARE THESE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SO I'M 255 00:12:34,754 --> 00:12:37,624 NOT ON THE INSIDE AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE BEHOLEN TO THEM. 256 00:12:37,624 --> 00:12:41,661 THE OTHER THING THAT YOU OUGHT TO KNOW IS I'VE TAKEN ON THE 257 00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:44,397 STATE GOVERNMENT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I'VE WON. 258 00:12:44,397 --> 00:12:46,933 AND I CAN DO THAT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO IF THEY'LL 259 00:12:46,933 --> 00:12:48,768 PUT ME IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. 260 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:52,138 >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BETSY RUSSELL FOR 261 00:12:52,138 --> 00:12:53,273 GOVERNOR OTTER. 262 00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:56,943 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, WHY DID THE STATE OF IDAHO SETTLE WITH 263 00:12:56,943 --> 00:13:01,081 CORRECTIONS CORPORATION OF AMERICA FOR $1 MILLION FOR 264 00:13:01,081 --> 00:13:04,317 UNDERSTAFFING AND OVERBILLING AT THE IDAHO CORRECTIONAL CENTER 265 00:13:04,317 --> 00:13:07,520 WITHOUT FIRST REVIEWING THE RECORDS TO SEE IF THERE WAS MORE 266 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:13,360 OF THAT GOING IN THE YEARS BEFORE OR AFTER 2012 AND IS $1 267 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,629 MILLION A FAIR SETTLEMENT FOR THAT? 268 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:19,599 >> IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD THAT THE SETTLEMENT THAT WAS MADE BY 269 00:13:19,599 --> 00:13:23,803 THE BOARD OF CORRECTIONS AND BY THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF 270 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:28,274 EXECUTING THAT CONTRACT, I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT SETTLEMENT. 271 00:13:28,274 --> 00:13:37,017 I PURPOSELY REMOVED MYSELF FROM BE PART OF NEGOTIATIONS IN THAT 272 00:13:37,017 --> 00:13:39,819 SETTLEMENT BECAUSE I HAD RECEIVED CAMPAIGN DONATIONS FROM 273 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:43,356 THE VERY COMPANY THAT THAT CONTRACT WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION 274 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:43,623 WITH. 275 00:13:43,623 --> 00:13:45,191 BUT I WOULD TELL YOU WHAT I DID DO. 276 00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:48,661 AS SOON AS WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS SOME IRREGULARITIES, 277 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:49,929 WE DID ORDER AN AUDIT. 278 00:13:49,929 --> 00:13:56,036 WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THOSE IRREGULARITIES WENT BEYOND THE 279 00:13:56,036 --> 00:14:02,042 PALE AND I WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMPANY IF I WOULD ADVANCE THAT 280 00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:05,078 CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER TERM, I SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT, WE'RE GOING 281 00:14:05,078 --> 00:14:08,214 OUT FOR AN RFP AND WHEN ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES SAID THEY 282 00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:12,218 WEREN'T GOING TO BID ON THE CONTRACT I SAID WELL THEN THE 283 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:15,321 STATE OF IDAHO IS GOING TO TAKE IT OVER AND WE DID TAKE IT OVER 284 00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:17,424 AND WE ALSO ORDERED THE FBI INVESTIGATION. 285 00:14:17,424 --> 00:14:19,693 >> YOU SAID THAT $1 MILLION WAS NOT THE AMOUNT OF SETTLEMENT? 286 00:14:19,693 --> 00:14:21,795 THAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS RELEASED. 287 00:14:21,795 --> 00:14:24,597 >> NO, THAT WAS NOT THE AMOUNT. 288 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:26,332 CHECK YOUR FOYA. 289 00:14:26,332 --> 00:14:29,169 YOU ABOVE ALL PEOPLE OUGHT TO KNOW FOR ALL THE VOLUMES OF 290 00:14:29,169 --> 00:14:34,341 REQUESTS THAT YOU'VE MADE TO THE STATE, THAT IT WAS WELL IN 291 00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:36,609 EXCESS OF A MILLION DOLLARS, NOT AS MUCH AS MY OPPONENTS ARE 292 00:14:36,609 --> 00:14:40,914 PUTTING INTO THIS RACE, BUT IT WAS WELL BEYOND THE MILLION 293 00:14:40,914 --> 00:14:41,181 DOLLARS. 294 00:14:41,181 --> 00:14:46,753 IN FACT, THERE WAS A BILL OUTSTANDING FOR OVER $300,000 295 00:14:46,753 --> 00:14:50,256 THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE FINAL NEGOTIATIONS. 296 00:14:50,256 --> 00:14:53,026 I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL THE NEGOTIATIONS WERE DONE. 297 00:14:53,026 --> 00:14:58,832 >> SO YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE $300,000 THAT WAS EXCUSED IN 298 00:14:58,832 --> 00:15:01,701 ADDITION TO THE $1 MILLION THAT THE STATE RECEIVED? 299 00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:04,471 >> WHAT WOULD THE SETTLEMENT ME? 300 00:15:04,471 --> 00:15:06,940 >> I GUESS IT DEPENDS -- [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] 301 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:08,608 >> BETSY, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? 302 00:15:08,608 --> 00:15:09,776 I DO. 303 00:15:09,776 --> 00:15:12,212 >> NO, NO, NO, I THINK LET'S BE FAIR HERE. 304 00:15:12,212 --> 00:15:15,515 IF YOU OWE SOMEBODY $300,000 AND THEY SAID NOT ONLY WILL WE 305 00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:19,686 SETTLE FOR $1 MILLION, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO FORGIVE THE 300 WE 306 00:15:19,686 --> 00:15:22,789 THINK YOU OWE US -- >> GOVERNOR. 307 00:15:22,789 --> 00:15:24,891 >> IS $1.3 MILLION A FAIR SETTLEMENT? 308 00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:27,961 >> I DID NOT KNOW, BUT I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE 309 00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:32,165 FBI FINISHES THE INVESTIGATION THAT I DEMANDED OF IT. 310 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:35,902 >> SO GOVERNOR, YOU SAID THAT YOU RECUSED YOURSELF FROM THE 311 00:15:35,902 --> 00:15:39,072 SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS, BUT THE TOP STAFFERS IN YOUR OFFICE, 312 00:15:39,072 --> 00:15:42,509 YOUR ATTORNEY, YOUR CHIEF OF STAFF, YOUR COMMUNICATIONS 313 00:15:42,509 --> 00:15:46,813 DIRECTOR, WERE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATING THAT SETTLEMENT. 314 00:15:46,813 --> 00:15:49,015 WHO WERE THEY REPRESENTING WHEN THEY DID THAT? 315 00:15:49,015 --> 00:15:51,651 >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THOSE 316 00:15:51,651 --> 00:15:52,018 NEGOTIATIONS. 317 00:15:52,018 --> 00:15:57,724 I DO KNOW THAT THE STATE BOARD OF CORRECTIONS AND THE HEAD OF 318 00:15:57,724 --> 00:16:02,062 PRISONS WERE INVOLVED IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. 319 00:16:02,062 --> 00:16:06,499 I WAS GIVEN A REPORT AFTER THE NEGOTIATIONS HAD BEEN ONGOING OF 320 00:16:06,499 --> 00:16:08,401 WHERE THE NEGOTIATIONS WERE GOING. 321 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:11,504 I DID NOT ISSUE AN OPINION ON THE NEGOTIATIONS. 322 00:16:11,504 --> 00:16:16,676 I DID NOT -- I WAS NOT ASKED NOR DID I SAY THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS 323 00:16:16,676 --> 00:16:18,845 A GOOD DEAL OR A BAD DEAL. 324 00:16:18,845 --> 00:16:24,851 >> AND THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR MR. BUJAK FROM MR. RICHARDS. 325 00:16:24,851 --> 00:16:27,253 >> CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? 326 00:16:27,253 --> 00:16:27,854 >> BRIEFLY, YES, PLEASE. 327 00:16:27,854 --> 00:16:31,691 >> YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE WAY GOVERNOR OTTER GOVERNS. 328 00:16:31,691 --> 00:16:34,994 HE'S A ABSENT. 329 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:37,630 HE ABDICATED HIS RESPONSIBILITY AS A GOVERNOR. 330 00:16:37,630 --> 00:16:40,333 IF YOUR FRIENDS OR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS ARE CHEATING THE 331 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:44,604 STATE, YOU'RE STILL THE GOVERNOR AND YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY 332 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:46,873 TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. 333 00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:51,911 AND YOU CAN'T JUST PASS THAT OFF TO SOMEONE THAT YOU HIRED. 334 00:16:51,911 --> 00:16:55,882 THE BUCK STOPS AT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. 335 00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:57,617 >> KEVIN YOUR QUESTION? 336 00:16:57,617 --> 00:17:00,020 >> THAT DOVE TAILS INTO THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK YOU. 337 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:02,822 YOU'VE RUN A LOT OF ADVERTISEMENTS ON THIS ISSUE. 338 00:17:02,822 --> 00:17:05,959 YOU'VE CALLED IT A SWEETHEART DEAL. 339 00:17:05,959 --> 00:17:07,761 SPECIFICALLY WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY HERE? 340 00:17:07,761 --> 00:17:11,197 >> I WOULD HAVE DONE THE INVESTIGATION BEFORE I DID A 341 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:11,498 SETTLEMENT. 342 00:17:11,498 --> 00:17:14,934 THE GOVERNMENT JUST ADMITTED HE DOESN'T KNOW IF $1.3 MILLION IS 343 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:16,302 A FAIR SETTLEMENT OR NOT. 344 00:17:16,302 --> 00:17:20,240 IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRUDENT TO DO THE INVESTIGATION AND UNDERSTAND 345 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:26,146 WHAT WENT ON BEFORE YOU LET A COMPANY OFF THE HOOK. 346 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:29,616 >> KEVIN, I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT I GET TO RESPOND TO THAT 347 00:17:29,616 --> 00:17:32,986 BECAUSE A.J. KNOWS DIFFERENT. 348 00:17:32,986 --> 00:17:36,623 A.J. KNOWS IF HE'S DONE HIS HOMEWORK, HE KNOWS THAT THAT 349 00:17:36,623 --> 00:17:38,725 CONTRACT IS NOT FINAL. 350 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,527 THAT NEGOTIATION IS NOT FINAL. 351 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:44,064 IF THERE IS ANYTHING FOUND OUT IN THE FORENSIC INVESTIGATION, 352 00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:49,102 IN THE FORENSIC AUDIT AND HERE'S AN AUDITOR, HE OUGHT TO KNOW 353 00:17:49,102 --> 00:17:54,641 BETTER THAN THAT, SHAME ON YOU, A.J., YOU OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER. 354 00:17:54,641 --> 00:17:57,644 AND IF THE FBI COMES UP WITH SOMETHING, ALL BETS ARE OFF. 355 00:17:57,644 --> 00:17:59,846 >> ALL NO, THEY'RE NOT. 356 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:03,016 >> BEFORE THE CRIMINAL COMPLAINT CAN GO FORWARD, BEFORE 357 00:18:03,016 --> 00:18:04,918 ANYTHING -- >> THAT AGREEMENT AND 358 00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:09,856 FORGIVENESS OF CIVIL PENALTIES DOES NOT GO AWAY. 359 00:18:09,856 --> 00:18:10,957 >> THAT'S NOT TRUE. 360 00:18:10,957 --> 00:18:13,693 >> THEY CAN GO AFTER PEOPLE THAT COMMITTED CRIMES, THEY CAN GO 361 00:18:13,693 --> 00:18:18,765 AFTER THEM FOR CRIMINAL, BUT THE SETTLEMENT FOR CIVIL DAMAGES 362 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:28,775 EXONERATED THEM FOR WHATEVER OTHER DAMAGES MAY BE DISCOVERED. 363 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,477 >> MR. BALUKOFF, ONE THING I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY IS WHERE YOU 364 00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:32,979 STAND ON THE CONCEPT OF PRIVATIZING PRISONS. 365 00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:39,152 IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD SUPPORT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES? 366 00:18:39,152 --> 00:18:40,720 THE GOVERNOR'S POSITION IS CLEAR. 367 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,890 WHAT IS YOURS? 368 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:46,626 >> A PROFIT MOTIVE TO RUN A PRISON IS NOT A GOOD MOTIVE. 369 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:51,598 I'M IN FAVOR OF OUR DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION RUNNING THE PRISON 370 00:18:51,598 --> 00:18:54,901 AND PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO REHABILITATE PRISONERS. 371 00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:59,372 THE VAST MAJORITY OF PRISONERS AND INMATES ARE OUT THERE, EVEN 372 00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:02,042 THOUGH THEY'VE COMMITTED A CRIME, THE UNDERLYING REASON IS 373 00:19:02,042 --> 00:19:04,944 MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES. 374 00:19:04,944 --> 00:19:10,283 AND THERE'S NOT MUCH INCENTIVE FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY TO DO 375 00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:13,753 THINGS THAT WILL LOWER THE PEOPLE THAT WILL -- THAT WILL 376 00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:16,322 LOWER THEIR FEES FOR RUNNING THE PRISON. 377 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:22,128 OUR GOAL IS TO REHABILITATE INMATES, TO GET THEM BACK INTO 378 00:19:22,128 --> 00:19:26,132 SOCIETY, TO BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS, TO WORK AND SUPPORT 379 00:19:26,132 --> 00:19:27,200 THEIR FAMILIES. 380 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,503 WE'RE BETTER DOING THAT AS A STATE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF 381 00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:33,406 CORRECTIONS THAN FARMING THAT OUT TO A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT'S 382 00:19:33,406 --> 00:19:37,610 TRYING TO EARN A PROFIT ON WATCHING PRISONERS. 383 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:39,612 >> CAN I WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE? 384 00:19:39,612 --> 00:19:42,615 I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER SO YOU KNOW. 385 00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:45,251 I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF PRIVATIZING THE PRISON SYSTEM. 386 00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:49,622 I THINK THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING VERY WELL AND THE 387 00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:51,691 PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE FREE MARKET CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE A 388 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:52,692 BETTER SOLUTION. 389 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:55,862 I THINK THE ISSUE ISN'T MAKING A PROFIT. 390 00:19:55,862 --> 00:19:59,165 THE ISSUE IS CHANGING THE CULTURE WITH JUDGES SO THAT WE 391 00:19:59,165 --> 00:20:02,802 DON'T INCARCERATE PEOPLE FOR NONVICE PRESIDENT OFFENSES. 392 00:20:02,802 --> 00:20:05,238 THAT'S GOING TO BE THE KEY AND JUDGES WHO STAND FOR ELECTION 393 00:20:05,238 --> 00:20:12,278 AND ARE WORRIED THEY WON'T GET RE-ELECTED IF THEY'RE NOT TOUGH 394 00:20:12,278 --> 00:20:13,613 ENOUGH ON CRIME. 395 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,448 I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE LEGISLATURE TO DO SOME 396 00:20:15,448 --> 00:20:17,751 AMENDMENTS TO THE CRIMINAL CODE TO LOWER THE PENALTIES FOR SOME 397 00:20:17,751 --> 00:20:22,455 OF THE CRIMES THAT ARE NONVIOLENT OFFENSES IN IDAHO. 398 00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:25,558 >> AND MR. BUJAK, ROCKY HAS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU ON 399 00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:25,992 THIS. 400 00:20:25,992 --> 00:20:30,630 >> SO THAT'S GOOD, WEIGHING IN ON THE PRIVATE PRISONS. 401 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:33,266 WHAT ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT WITH CCA? 402 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,035 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? 403 00:20:35,035 --> 00:20:38,104 DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A FAIR SETTLEMENT FOR THE STATE OF 404 00:20:38,104 --> 00:20:38,371 IDAHO? 405 00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,573 >> I HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION AS A LAWYER. 406 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:43,309 I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE LITIGATION THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE FEDERAL 407 00:20:43,309 --> 00:20:46,112 COURTS RELATED TO WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE DUE TO THE LACK OF 408 00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:49,049 SUPERVISION AND SO THE STATE HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO LIABILITY 409 00:20:49,049 --> 00:20:51,951 THROUGH THE LACK OF SUPERVISION TO A GREATER DEGREE. 410 00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:54,754 I THINK THAT THE SETTLEMENT WAS PREMATURE. 411 00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,857 I DON'T THINK THAT THAT NUMBER IS A GOOD NUMBER AND I WOULD 412 00:20:57,857 --> 00:21:00,627 HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN MORE INVESTIGATION BEFORE ANY KIND OF 413 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,730 SETTLEMENT WAS STRUCK REGARDING THE PRIVATE PRISON. 414 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:06,866 >> WELL ROCKY, LET ME ALSO RESPOND TO THAT. 415 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:10,637 A GOOD LAWYER WOULD HAVE READ THE ENTIRE CONTRACT ON THE 416 00:21:10,637 --> 00:21:15,108 NEGOTIATION AND WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT THAT AT THE END, NEW 417 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:21,548 INFORMATION ON A NEW SUGGEST, THE WHOLE CONTRACT IS OPENED UP. 418 00:21:21,548 --> 00:21:24,184 THAT'S IN THAT CONTRACT, JOHN. 419 00:21:24,184 --> 00:21:26,286 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND? 420 00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:30,623 >> AS A CIVIL LAWYER, YOU DON'T LEAVE OPEN ENDED LIABILITIES. 421 00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:33,893 THE WHOLE NOTION IS ITS RISK MANAGEMENT. 422 00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:36,463 MAYBE THEY CAN BE OPENED UP IN THE CRIMINAL CONTEXT, BUT 423 00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:39,199 THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL CIVIL LIABILITY THAT CAN BE IMPOSED 424 00:21:39,199 --> 00:21:40,467 UNDER THAT CONTRACT. 425 00:21:40,467 --> 00:21:43,103 THAT WAS SIMPLY PUT TO BED FOR A MILLION BUCKS. 426 00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:43,837 >> NOT TRUE. 427 00:21:43,837 --> 00:21:45,939 >> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION REALLY BRIEFLY. 428 00:21:45,939 --> 00:21:47,774 >> MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU, GOVERNOR. 429 00:21:47,774 --> 00:21:55,281 YOU POINTEDLY TOLD THETERNALLY THAT THE PRIVATE -- YOU SAID 430 00:21:55,281 --> 00:21:59,519 THERE WASN'T A NEED TO CALL FOR THE INVESTIGATION. 431 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:03,223 THEN YOU REVERSED YOUR DECISION. 432 00:22:03,223 --> 00:22:06,693 SO WHAT ROLE DID YOUR STAFF AND THE STATE POLICE PLAY IN THAT 433 00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:12,799 LETTER TO THE A.G. AND IS THIS A CASE OF INCOMPETENCE OR COVERUP? 434 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,502 >> WELL, IT'S NEITHER AND YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT, ROCKY. 435 00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:19,439 YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE THING. 436 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:23,076 THE INITIAL REPORT WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME IRREGULARITIES. 437 00:22:23,076 --> 00:22:25,612 THAT'S WHY WE ORDERED THE AUDIT. 438 00:22:25,612 --> 00:22:31,818 WHEN THE POLICE WERE ASKED BY THE CHIEF OF THE DIVISION TO 439 00:22:31,818 --> 00:22:36,556 PERFORM AN AUDIT, THE STATE POLICE CAME IN AND PERFORMED AN 440 00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:36,756 AUDIT. 441 00:22:36,756 --> 00:22:40,360 NOW, HERE'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, IS THAT CRIMINAL AUDIT 442 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,194 OR NOT? 443 00:22:41,194 --> 00:22:44,831 MY ASSUMPTION WAS HERE'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY DOING AN 444 00:22:44,831 --> 00:22:47,467 AUDIT, IT'S PROBABLY A CRIMINAL AUDIT. 445 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:51,404 I WAS INFORMED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT IT WAS NOT A FULL 446 00:22:51,404 --> 00:22:52,305 CRIMINAL AUDIT. 447 00:22:52,305 --> 00:22:56,943 THAT IT WAS A FORENSIC AUDIT AND THEY DID DISCOVER SOME 448 00:22:56,943 --> 00:23:02,482 IRREGULARITIES, BUT IT WAS NOT A FULL -- THAT'S WHEN I TOLD -- I 449 00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:05,518 TOLD THE CONTRACTOR THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE RENEWED, 450 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:08,221 THAT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE IT OVER AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THAT 451 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:11,057 WE WERE GOING TO PROCEED THAT DIRECTION. 452 00:23:11,057 --> 00:23:13,893 >> CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING? 453 00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:14,260 >> BRIEFLY. 454 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:18,365 >> THE OTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS IS THE WAY THE 455 00:23:18,365 --> 00:23:21,001 INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BY THE IDAHO STATE POLICE AND I'VE READ 456 00:23:21,001 --> 00:23:22,969 THE CORRESPONDENCE WHERE THE POLICE INDICATED THEY HAD A 457 00:23:22,969 --> 00:23:23,870 CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 458 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:25,338 THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 459 00:23:25,338 --> 00:23:28,274 WHEN IDAHO GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, YOU DON'T CALL 460 00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:30,276 THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT ANSWERS TO THE GOVERNOR TO GO IN 461 00:23:30,276 --> 00:23:31,277 AND DO THAT. 462 00:23:31,277 --> 00:23:34,280 YOU BRING IN SOMEONE INDEPENDENTLY TO DO AND THAT'S 463 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,818 WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED RIGHT OFF THE BAT. 464 00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:40,186 >> THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT HERE. 465 00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:42,288 IDAHO WASN'T BEING INVESTIGATED. 466 00:23:42,288 --> 00:23:43,256 CCA WAS BEING INVESTIGATED. 467 00:23:43,256 --> 00:23:45,658 THE STATE OF IDAHO WAS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED. 468 00:23:45,658 --> 00:23:47,260 >> IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. 469 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:49,662 THE NEXT QUESTION -- >> OBVIOUSLY -- 470 00:23:49,662 --> 00:23:52,999 [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> MR. BALUKOFF, WHAT SHOULD 471 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:58,138 IDAHO DO WITH REGARD TO THE IDAHO EDUCATION NETWORK, ANOTHER 472 00:23:58,138 --> 00:24:03,343 STATE SERVICE FOR WHICH THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONTRACT TROUBLE? 473 00:24:03,343 --> 00:24:11,785 >> THAT IS ANOTHER TROUBLE THAT -- CONTRACT THAT WAS LET OUT UNDER 474 00:24:11,785 --> 00:24:14,788 SOME SUSPICIOUS CONDITIONS. 475 00:24:14,788 --> 00:24:18,792 THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION IS NOT PAYING WHAT IT 476 00:24:18,792 --> 00:24:20,527 WOULD NORMALLY PAY TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 477 00:24:20,527 --> 00:24:23,630 THAT COST THE STATE OVER $11 MILLION THIS YEAR AND WILL 478 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:27,867 PROBABLY COST THE STATE $11 MILLION NEXT YEAR. 479 00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:33,106 I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF UNDOING THAT CONTRACT, REBIDDING IT AND 480 00:24:33,106 --> 00:24:39,913 MAKING IT A FAIR PROCESS TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THE LOWEST 481 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:43,450 QUALIFIED BIDDER AND GET RID OF SOME OF THE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF 482 00:24:43,450 --> 00:24:48,355 MARKUP THAT COME TO THE STATE BEFORE WE HAVE DELIVERED THE 483 00:24:48,355 --> 00:24:48,655 PRODUCT. 484 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:50,557 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 485 00:24:50,557 --> 00:24:54,260 >> AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE'VE HOOKED UP EVERY HIGH SCHOOL IN 486 00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:54,928 THE STATE. 487 00:24:54,928 --> 00:25:01,334 ALL THE STUDENTS THAT ATTEND THOSE OVER 85,000 NOW HAVE THE 488 00:25:01,334 --> 00:25:03,970 OPPORTUNITY FOR DUAL ENROLLMENT. 489 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:08,875 IN FACT, WE HAVE DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS TAKEN IN DUAL 490 00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:11,878 ENROLLMENT WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY TAKING COLLEGE COURSES WHILE 491 00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:13,947 JUNIORS AND SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL. 492 00:25:13,947 --> 00:25:17,951 A.J. KNOWS FULL WELL THERE WAS ONLY ONE BIDDER, THE VERY 493 00:25:17,951 --> 00:25:21,521 COMPANY THAT HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE CONTRACT TO DID NOT BID, THE 494 00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:27,160 VERY COMPANY THAT IS NOW SUING DID NOT BID, DID NOT COMPLETE 495 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,162 THEIR FULL BID ON THAT CONTRACT. 496 00:25:29,162 --> 00:25:31,631 YOU CANNOT GIVE A BID TO A COMPANY THAT ISN'T GOING TO 497 00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:34,067 COMPLETE THE BID. 498 00:25:34,067 --> 00:25:35,635 AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED. 499 00:25:35,635 --> 00:25:36,803 ARE THEY UPSET? 500 00:25:36,803 --> 00:25:41,708 YEAH, THEY'RE UPSET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR TIME FOR THEIR 501 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:42,008 EFFORT. 502 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:45,445 REMEMBER THIS, WE'VE GONE TO COURT. 503 00:25:45,445 --> 00:25:50,717 NEITHER ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN REVERSED BY ANY COURT. 504 00:25:50,717 --> 00:25:55,088 OF THE SIX CHARGES, FIVE OF THEM HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY DROPPED. 505 00:25:55,088 --> 00:25:58,491 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR MR. BUJAK. 506 00:25:58,491 --> 00:26:00,293 >> WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IDAHO SHOULD DO WITH REGARD TO THE 507 00:26:00,293 --> 00:26:01,394 IDAHO EDUCATION NETWORK? 508 00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:05,398 >> THE NETWORK ITSELF IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT JUST TO BUTTRESS IN ON 509 00:26:05,398 --> 00:26:08,201 THE GOVERNOR'S LAST COMMENTS, WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE WAY 510 00:26:08,201 --> 00:26:10,970 THE CONTRACT WAS DONE AND THE SUPREME COURT HAS ALREADY RULE 511 00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:11,771 ON THIS. 512 00:26:11,771 --> 00:26:15,041 THE DIRECT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF -- THE DIRECTOR OF THE 513 00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:17,777 DEPARTMENT DID THE PROCESS ILLEGALLY AND THIS HAS WHAT 514 00:26:17,777 --> 00:26:21,414 HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A GOVERNOR THAT APPOINTS HIS BUDDIES AND 515 00:26:21,414 --> 00:26:24,050 WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS HANDLED BY THE GOVERNOR'S 516 00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:27,620 OFFICE IS AFTER THE SUPREME COURT MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, 517 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:29,255 WHAT DID GOVERNOR OTTER DO? 518 00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:34,094 HE WAS SILENT ABOUT IT AND, IN FACT, HE THANKED HIM FOR HIS 519 00:26:34,094 --> 00:26:34,361 SERVICE. 520 00:26:34,361 --> 00:26:38,264 THERE WAS NO ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND NO CHANGE OF 521 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:38,898 COURSE. 522 00:26:38,898 --> 00:26:40,900 SO AGAIN, THIS IS LITIGATION THAT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING, BUT 523 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,336 I WOULD SUPPORT KEEPING THE NETWORK IN PLACE. 524 00:26:43,336 --> 00:26:46,806 >> NOW, DIDN'T WE JUST HEAR MR. BUJAK SAY YOU CAN BE CHARGED 525 00:26:46,806 --> 00:26:51,244 WITH STUFF, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT SO? 526 00:26:51,244 --> 00:26:53,446 ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE CHARGES THAT YOU HAD 527 00:26:53,446 --> 00:26:58,852 BROUGHT AGAINST YOU BY THE SUPREME COURT, BY THE ETHICS 528 00:26:58,852 --> 00:26:59,185 COMMITTEE? 529 00:26:59,185 --> 00:27:04,491 BY THE STATE OF IDAHO TO GET BACK PAY FOR CHILD SUPPORT? 530 00:27:04,491 --> 00:27:07,594 >> AND YET HERE I AM AND THE JURY HAVING HEARD THE EVIDENCE, 531 00:27:07,594 --> 00:27:10,230 FINDING ME NOT GUILTY, AND I'M STILL HERE -- 532 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:13,600 >> WHY DID YOU PLEAD GUILTY? 533 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,302 >> I DIDN'T PLEAD GUILTY TO ANY OF THE CRIMINAL CHARGES. 534 00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:17,871 >> JUST FOR CHILD SUPPORT. 535 00:27:17,871 --> 00:27:21,074 >> IT WAS JUST FOR CHILD SUPPORT FOR ONE MONTH IN AUGUST OF 2013 536 00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:23,309 AND I'M CURRENT NOW, GOVERNOR. 537 00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,612 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MONTH OF CHILD SUPPORT. 538 00:27:25,612 --> 00:27:28,048 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THE TAXPAYERS IN THE 539 00:27:28,048 --> 00:27:31,051 STATE OF IDAHO ARE HAVING TO PAY BECAUSE OF YOUR INCOMPETENCE. 540 00:27:31,051 --> 00:27:32,252 >> I'M CORRECTED. 541 00:27:32,252 --> 00:27:38,692 >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR OTTER. 542 00:27:38,692 --> 00:27:40,860 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO, YOU SAID THAT IDAHO 543 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:44,230 WAS PROBABLY NOT MEETING THE STATE'S CONSTITUTION'S 544 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:54,607 REQUIREMENT TO ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN GENERAL UNIFORMS AND 545 00:27:54,607 --> 00:27:55,975 LEVIES FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 546 00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:57,510 THE BILL CONTINUES TO RISE. 547 00:27:57,510 --> 00:28:03,483 ARE WE STILL NOT MEETING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE AS YOU'VE 548 00:28:03,483 --> 00:28:03,750 INDICATED? 549 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,853 >> YOU'VE BEEN REPORTING ON EDUCATION FOR A LONG TIME IN 550 00:28:06,853 --> 00:28:07,220 IDAHO. 551 00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:09,856 AND I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION BECAUSE I EXPECT I KNOW 552 00:28:09,856 --> 00:28:11,324 THE ANSWER. 553 00:28:11,324 --> 00:28:15,929 BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IDAHO HAS EVER, EVER MET THAT 554 00:28:15,929 --> 00:28:19,833 CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE BECAUSE OF THE RURAL NATURE OF IDAHO. 555 00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:25,472 SO WHEN I ADMITTED THAT IT HADN'T, I ALSO SAID THAT BECAUSE 556 00:28:25,472 --> 00:28:29,409 OF THE IDAHO EDUCATION NETWORK, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE WERE 557 00:28:29,409 --> 00:28:32,345 MOVING UP THE SCALE ON OUR EDUCATION REFORM, THAT WE WERE 558 00:28:32,345 --> 00:28:36,683 GOING TO COME A LOT CLOSER TO IT THAN WE HAVE EVER BEEN IN THE 559 00:28:36,683 --> 00:28:39,619 HISTORY OF THE STATE OF IDAHO AND I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT. 560 00:28:39,619 --> 00:28:43,623 WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO REACH OUT WITH TECHNOLOGY AND HAVE A 561 00:28:43,623 --> 00:28:47,427 CLASSROOM TEACHER IN EAGLE, IDAHO, TEACHING AN OTHERWISE 562 00:28:47,427 --> 00:28:53,533 HARD TO PLACE CLASS IN JEROME OR CASTLEFORD OR ANY OTHER PLACE IN 563 00:28:53,533 --> 00:28:55,869 A REMOTE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I THINK WE'RE COMING A LOT CLOSER 564 00:28:55,869 --> 00:28:59,372 TO THAT, AND I THINK WE'VE COME AN AWFUL LOT CLOSER TO IT UNDER 565 00:28:59,372 --> 00:29:05,812 AN OTTER ADMINISTRATION THAN WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY. 566 00:29:05,812 --> 00:29:08,181 >> MR. BALUKOFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT? 567 00:29:08,181 --> 00:29:09,849 >> WITH 95 SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN FORCED TO PASS 568 00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:13,953 SUPPLEMENTAL LEVIES SINCE GOVERNOR OTTER'S ADMINISTRATION 569 00:29:13,953 --> 00:29:18,291 HAS TAKEN OVER TOTALING $1 MILLION, THERE IS GREATER 570 00:29:18,291 --> 00:29:20,560 DISPARITY AMONG SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAN THERE HAS EVER BEEN IN THE 571 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,661 STATE OF IDAHO. 572 00:29:21,661 --> 00:29:24,030 WE HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS CUT BACK TO A FOUR DAY WEEK. 573 00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:26,332 WE HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE CUT PROGRAMS, ARTS, MUSIC. 574 00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:30,236 THEY CHARGE FEES TO PARTICIPATE IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. 575 00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:34,407 CHILDREN ARE NOT GETTING AN EQUAL AND UNIFORM EDUCATIONAL 576 00:29:34,407 --> 00:29:38,678 OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE STATE, LIKE THE CONSTITUTION DEMANDS. 577 00:29:38,678 --> 00:29:45,251 WE ARE NOT IN ANY FORM OBEYING THE CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE TO 578 00:29:45,251 --> 00:29:47,954 PROVIDE A GENERAL UNIFORM AND THOROUGH SYSTEM OF PUBLIC 579 00:29:47,954 --> 00:29:48,221 SCHOOLS. 580 00:29:48,221 --> 00:29:51,491 WE NEED TO MAKE THE PROPER COMMITMENT THAT OUR CONSTITUTION 581 00:29:51,491 --> 00:29:52,625 SAYS WE SHOULD MAKE. 582 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:58,331 NOW, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS, OUR GOVERNOR HAS RAISE HIS HAND AND 583 00:29:58,331 --> 00:30:00,333 SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. 584 00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:03,103 THAT INCLUDES THE ENTIRE CONSTITUTION, EVEN THE PARTS 585 00:30:03,103 --> 00:30:04,804 THAT ARE HARD TO OBEY. 586 00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:09,442 WE WE DO NEED TO OBEY THE CONSTITUTION FOR THAT EQUAL AND 587 00:30:09,442 --> 00:30:12,178 UNIFORM AND THOROUGH SYSTEM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION. 588 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:16,182 IT'S NOT NONE OF THAT RIGHT NOW. 589 00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:22,022 >> IT'S REFRESHING TO HEAR THIS RENEWED INTEREST IN OUR ENTIRE 590 00:30:22,022 --> 00:30:26,526 CONSTITUTION BY A.J. WHO HAS CRITICIZED ME FOR DEFENDING THE 591 00:30:26,526 --> 00:30:30,096 CONSTITUTION AND ESPECIALLY ARTICLE THREE SECTION 28 ON 592 00:30:30,096 --> 00:30:34,200 SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THIS, IDAHO RIGHT NOW 593 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,205 FOR EVERY DIME THAT A.J. SPENDS IN HIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, FOR 594 00:30:39,205 --> 00:30:44,544 EVERY DOLLAR, 73 CENTS OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE STATE GENERAL 595 00:30:44,544 --> 00:30:45,545 FUND. 596 00:30:45,545 --> 00:30:49,749 SO YEAH, WE MAY BE 48 TO 49th IN HOW MUCH TOTAL MONEY IS PUT 597 00:30:49,749 --> 00:30:52,686 BEHIND EACH STUDENT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF 598 00:30:52,686 --> 00:30:55,221 GENERAL FUND MONEY THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO THE LOCAL 599 00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:58,258 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, YOU'LL FIND WE'RE NUMBER FOURTH IN THE 600 00:30:58,258 --> 00:31:02,262 NATION IN THE AMOUNT OF GENERAL FUND DEDICATION TO THE EDUCATION 601 00:31:02,262 --> 00:31:04,230 SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF IDAHO. 602 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:06,633 NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, THERE HAVE BEEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE 603 00:31:06,633 --> 00:31:08,902 BEEN PUT UNDER FINANCIAL PRESSURE. 604 00:31:08,902 --> 00:31:09,169 WHY? 605 00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:14,174 BECAUSE THE APPRAISAL PRICE OF PROPERTY DURING THE RECESSION 606 00:31:14,174 --> 00:31:18,278 DROPPED AND SO THE LEVY HAD TO COME UP AND THOSE PEOPLE ON THE 607 00:31:18,278 --> 00:31:21,181 LOCAL LEVEL SAID WE CARE ENOUGH ABOUT IT THAT WE ARE GOING TO 608 00:31:21,181 --> 00:31:21,448 VOTE. 609 00:31:21,448 --> 00:31:27,287 BUT REMEMBER THIS, THE LOCAL PEOPLE VOTED THOSE LEVIES IN, 610 00:31:27,287 --> 00:31:30,290 VOTED FOR THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY. 611 00:31:30,290 --> 00:31:33,927 IN FACT, I'VE HEARD A.J. SAY THIS ABOUT THE FOUR DAY SCHOOL, 612 00:31:33,927 --> 00:31:38,264 THE FOUR DAY SCHOOL WEEK, AND I AGREE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT 613 00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:39,833 GO AWAY. 614 00:31:39,833 --> 00:31:44,104 BUT IT WAS THE GUY IN HIS VERY AD, THE SUPERINTENDENT OUT OF 615 00:31:44,104 --> 00:31:46,473 SHOSHONE THAT WROTE A NICE ARTICLE ABOUT HOW GREAT IT WAS 616 00:31:46,473 --> 00:31:50,276 TO HAVE A FOUR DAY WEEK. 617 00:31:50,276 --> 00:31:53,646 >> ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ON. 618 00:31:53,646 --> 00:31:57,384 >> GOVERNOR OTTER QUICKLY, THOUGH, $1 BILLION WORTH OF 619 00:31:57,384 --> 00:31:59,486 SUPPLEMENTAL LEVIES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED OVER THE PAST SEVEN 620 00:31:59,486 --> 00:32:00,687 YEARS ON YOUR WATCH. 621 00:32:00,687 --> 00:32:04,324 IS THAT NOT A LARGE TAX INCREASE THAT HAS OCCURRED -- 622 00:32:04,324 --> 00:32:06,092 >> KEEP YOUR ANSWER BRIEF. 623 00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:09,796 >> $5 BILLION IN DEPRESSED APPRAISALS ACROSS THE STATE IN 624 00:32:09,796 --> 00:32:11,431 THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 625 00:32:11,431 --> 00:32:14,000 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY VALUES THAT HAVE 626 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,506 DROPPED, IT'S FAR IN EXCESS OF WHAT HAS BEEN LOST JUST TO THE 627 00:32:19,506 --> 00:32:23,343 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, LOST TO MOSQUITO DISTRICTS, THE LOCAL 628 00:32:23,343 --> 00:32:26,713 HIGHWAY DISTRICTS, TO EVERY TAXING DISTRICT ON THE LOCAL 629 00:32:26,713 --> 00:32:28,648 LEVEL, KEVIN. 630 00:32:28,648 --> 00:32:29,983 >> MR. BALUKOFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT? 631 00:32:29,983 --> 00:32:33,553 >> IT'S NOT JUST THE LOCAL MONEY, THE REDUCTION IN PROPERTY 632 00:32:33,553 --> 00:32:33,820 VALUES. 633 00:32:33,820 --> 00:32:38,124 THERE'S BEEN A CUT IN THE STATE FUNDING TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 634 00:32:38,124 --> 00:32:43,129 IN 2006, THE LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR TOOK OVER 635 00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:45,365 RESPONSIBILITY FOR FUNDING PUBLIC SCHOOLS WHEN THEY TOOK 636 00:32:45,365 --> 00:32:47,300 PROPERTY TAXING AUTHORITY AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND 637 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:56,042 REPLACED IT WITH A 1 PENNY SALES TAX INCREASE. 638 00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:59,679 THEY HAVE CUT THE FUNDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND TODAY, EVEN 639 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:03,483 THOUGH GOVERNOR OTTER CLAIMS TO HAVE PUT $35 MILLION BACK INTO 640 00:33:03,483 --> 00:33:08,788 PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WE ARE STILL $100 MILLION SHORT OF THE 2009 641 00:33:08,788 --> 00:33:11,958 FUNDING LEVEL AND THAT'S BEFORE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 642 00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:15,695 INFLATION AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 22,000 MORE STUDENTS TODAY 643 00:33:15,695 --> 00:33:19,065 THAN WE HAD IN 2009. 644 00:33:19,065 --> 00:33:21,334 >> MR. BALUKOFF, ARIZONA SCHOOL TRUSTEE, IN ONE OF THOSE 645 00:33:21,334 --> 00:33:24,170 DISTRICTS THAT'S HAD TO GO TO VOTERS AND GET A SUPPLEMENTAL 646 00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:25,438 LEVY PASSED. 647 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:29,809 IS THERE NOTHING TO BE SAID FOR THE GOVERNMENT CLOSEST TO THE 648 00:33:29,809 --> 00:33:34,180 LOCAL PATRONS GOING TO THEM AND DECIDING WHAT LEVEL OF 649 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:35,348 COMPLIMENT TO EDUCATION THEY WANT? 650 00:33:35,348 --> 00:33:37,183 >> THE PROBLEM WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL LEVIES IS THEY'RE 651 00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:40,253 GOOD FOR TWO YEARS. 652 00:33:40,253 --> 00:33:44,190 AND DISTRICTS ARE PAYING ONGOING EXPENSES, TEACHER SALARIES AND 653 00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:48,028 SO FORTH WITH TEMPORARY MONEY AND JUST BECAUSE A DISTRICT 654 00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:52,665 PASSED A LEVY LAST YEAR DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN PASS IT AGAIN NEXT 655 00:33:52,665 --> 00:33:53,033 YEAR. 656 00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:59,139 SOME DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE GET ALMOST 25% OF THEIR TOTAL 657 00:33:59,139 --> 00:34:00,040 BUDGET FROM SUPPLEMENTAL LEVIES. 658 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,578 IF THAT DISTRICT IS UNABLE TO PASS A LEVY, OR RENEW THE LEVY, 659 00:34:05,578 --> 00:34:08,348 THAT WILL BE DEVASTATING FOR THOSE DISTRICTS. 660 00:34:08,348 --> 00:34:11,851 THAT'S NOT, THAT TEMPORARY FUNDING IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO 661 00:34:11,851 --> 00:34:12,786 FUND OUR SCHOOLS. 662 00:34:12,786 --> 00:34:16,322 IT DOES NOT PROVIDE STABLE FUNDING. 663 00:34:16,322 --> 00:34:18,258 SUPERINTENDENTS ALL OVER THE DISTRICT TELL ME THEIR TWO 664 00:34:18,258 --> 00:34:21,428 BIGGEST CHALLENGES ARE THE LACK OF STABLE AND RELIABLE FUNDING 665 00:34:21,428 --> 00:34:25,432 SO THEY CAN DO LONG-TERM PLANNING AND THEIR INABILITY TO 666 00:34:25,432 --> 00:34:29,903 FILL TEACHING POSITIONS, THE VACANCIES THAT ARE CREATED WHEN 667 00:34:29,903 --> 00:34:32,172 TEACHERS LEAVE FOR OTHER PROFESSIONS OR OTHER STATES. 668 00:34:32,172 --> 00:34:37,444 I HAD ONE SUPERINTENDENT TELL ME THAT HALF OF THE TEACHING 669 00:34:37,444 --> 00:34:42,449 VACANCIES IN THAT DISTRICT ARE FILLED WITH PEOPLE ON 670 00:34:42,449 --> 00:34:44,351 PROVISIONAL CERTIFICATION. 671 00:34:44,351 --> 00:34:46,920 >> MR. BALUKOFF, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE TERRIBLE, BUT HOW DO 672 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,090 YOU PAY FOR THEM TO MAKE THEM BETTER? 673 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:51,725 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ELIMINATE THE WASTE THAT'S BEEN 674 00:34:51,725 --> 00:34:54,894 GOING ON IN THE GOVERNMENT. 675 00:34:54,894 --> 00:34:58,665 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BROADBAND CONTRACT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH 676 00:34:58,665 --> 00:35:03,136 MONEY WAS LOST AT THE PRISON SCANDAL, BUT ALSO YOU CHANGE THE 677 00:35:03,136 --> 00:35:03,503 PRIORITIES. 678 00:35:03,503 --> 00:35:06,940 THIS YEAR THE GOVERNOR HAS RECOMMENDED PUTTING $70 MILLION 679 00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:08,975 INTO A RAINY DAY FUND. 680 00:35:08,975 --> 00:35:14,414 HE PROPOSED PUTTING ANOTHER $30 MILLION ASIDE FOR UNSPECIFIED 681 00:35:14,414 --> 00:35:17,050 TAX RELIEF. 682 00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:19,252 THAT'S $100 MILLION THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO SCHOOLS IF SCHOOLS 683 00:35:19,252 --> 00:35:22,489 HAD TRULY BEEN THE TOP PRIORITY. 684 00:35:22,489 --> 00:35:28,361 AND YOU KNOW THIS YEAR, WE WOULD BE BACK AT THE 2009 FUNDING 685 00:35:28,361 --> 00:35:29,796 LEVEL. 686 00:35:29,796 --> 00:35:32,966 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM KEVIN. 687 00:35:32,966 --> 00:35:35,969 >> MR. BUJAK, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU ABOUT SCHOOL FUNDING. 688 00:35:35,969 --> 00:35:38,805 YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT CUTTING THE BUDGET, FINDING WAYS IN THE 689 00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:41,508 STATE BUDGET AND PUTTING THAT INTO THE EDUCATION. 690 00:35:41,508 --> 00:35:44,544 WHERE DO WE GET THAT FROM, SPECIFICALLY? 691 00:35:44,544 --> 00:35:47,280 WHERE IS THE WASTE THAT YOU WOULD CUT? 692 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,982 >> THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT I WOULD LOOK. 693 00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:52,018 I WOULD RECOGNIZE AND I AGREE WITH GOVERNOR OTTER, WE AS A 694 00:35:52,018 --> 00:35:55,455 STATE DEDICATE A LOT OF FUNDING TO EDUCATION, 65% OF THE BUDGET, 695 00:35:55,455 --> 00:35:57,824 IN FACT, GOES TO EDUCATION AND ONE OF THE KEYS IS GOING TO BE 696 00:35:57,824 --> 00:36:01,027 IMPROVING THE ECONOMY AND RAISING THE SIZE OF THE PIE FROM 697 00:36:01,027 --> 00:36:03,930 A ROBUST ECONOMY AND GETTING MORE MONEY FOR EDUCATION, THAT'S 698 00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:06,966 GOING TO BE PART OF THE PLAN, BUT WHERE WE CAN CUT I THINK IS 699 00:36:06,966 --> 00:36:10,570 IN CORRECTIONS SPENDING AGAIN WE WAREHOUSE PEOPLE FOR NONVIOLENT 700 00:36:10,570 --> 00:36:13,606 OFFENSES TO THE TUNE OF $40,000 PER PERSON PER YEAR. 701 00:36:13,606 --> 00:36:15,608 WE CAN CUT BACK THERE. 702 00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:17,977 WE CAN CUT BACK ON SOME OF THE STRUCTURE WITHIN THE SCHOOLS. 703 00:36:17,977 --> 00:36:20,413 I THINK IT'S ADMINISTRATION HEAVY AND I WOULD RATHER SEE US 704 00:36:20,413 --> 00:36:23,316 HAVE LESS ADMINISTRATION AND MORE MONEY GETTING INTO THE 705 00:36:23,316 --> 00:36:26,152 CLASSROOM SO THE TEACHERS DON'T HAVE TO PULL MONEY OUT OF THEIR 706 00:36:26,152 --> 00:36:29,055 OWN POCKETS TO FUND SUPPLIES IN THE CLASSROOM. 707 00:36:29,055 --> 00:36:32,692 I ALSO THINK THAT GETTING RID OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH COMMON CORE 708 00:36:32,692 --> 00:36:36,329 AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THESE 20 GOOD IDEAS THAT THE GOVERNOR 709 00:36:36,329 --> 00:36:41,334 TALKS ABOUT BECAUSE GOVERNOR OTTER LIKES TO DO THIS. 710 00:36:41,334 --> 00:36:45,005 HE TAKES THINGS THAT ARE UNPOPULAR WITH THE PEOPLE OF 711 00:36:45,005 --> 00:36:47,507 IDAHO, HE SELLS IT TO THEM IN A DIFFERENT FORM. 712 00:36:47,507 --> 00:36:50,643 THE 20 GOOD IDEAS ARE PROPS TWO AND THREE THAT WERE REJECTED BY 713 00:36:50,643 --> 00:36:54,647 THE VOTERS, AND NOW, HE'S PERPETUATING SOMETHING THE 714 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:57,450 VOTERS REJECTED. 715 00:36:57,450 --> 00:37:01,488 >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAID EARLIER 716 00:37:01,488 --> 00:37:07,193 THAT HE BELIEVES IDAHO HAS NEVER MET THE CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE 717 00:37:07,193 --> 00:37:10,397 FOR FUNDING IDAHO SCHOOLS AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU 718 00:37:10,397 --> 00:37:11,131 THINK ABOUT THAT IDEA. 719 00:37:11,131 --> 00:37:15,835 >> WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE DETERIORATING 720 00:37:15,835 --> 00:37:21,708 STATE OF SCHOOL BUILDINGS AROUND THE STATE, THAT'S ONE CASE WHERE 721 00:37:21,708 --> 00:37:25,145 WE'VE NEVER FULFILLED THAT CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE. 722 00:37:25,145 --> 00:37:29,416 MAYBE ONE WAY TO FULFILL THAT WOULD BE TO LOWER THE 723 00:37:29,416 --> 00:37:32,719 SUPERMAJORITY, THE TWO THIRDS REQUIREMENT IN PASSING A BOND TO 724 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,422 BUILD NEW SCHOOLS. 725 00:37:35,422 --> 00:37:40,060 THERE HAVE BEEN DISTRICTS AND, IN FACT, JUST RECENTLY THE WEST 726 00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:44,964 AIDA DISTRICT PASSED -- TRIED TO PASS A LEVY THAT THEY NEED FOR 727 00:37:44,964 --> 00:37:49,536 SOME NEW SCHOOLS, TWO OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE LIKE 30% 728 00:37:49,536 --> 00:37:49,903 OVERCAPACITY. 729 00:37:49,903 --> 00:37:52,505 THEIR SCHOOLS WERE BUILT FOR 1,800 STUDENTS. 730 00:37:52,505 --> 00:37:56,643 ONE OF THEM HAS 2,300 STUDENTS, THE OTHER HAS 2,200 STUDENTS IN 731 00:37:56,643 --> 00:38:00,680 THERE AND THEY BADLY NEED TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS. 732 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,819 WELL, THE BOND PROPOSAL WENT OUT AND THEY GOT 63% OF THE VOTE. 733 00:38:05,819 --> 00:38:10,190 NOW, IF I WERE TO WIN THIS ELECTION WITH 63% OF THE VOTE, 734 00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:14,227 THAT WOULD BE BANNER HEADLINES ALL OVER THE STATE. 735 00:38:14,227 --> 00:38:19,032 BUT IN A BOND ELECTION, 63% IS A LOSER. 736 00:38:19,032 --> 00:38:27,040 SO ONE WAY TO HELP US MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WOULD BE TO 737 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,843 LOWER THAT SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT SO THAT MORE 738 00:38:29,843 --> 00:38:32,612 DISTRICTS COULD PASS THE BONDS NECESSARY TO BUILD NEW HIGH 739 00:38:32,612 --> 00:38:34,214 SCHOOLS WHEN YOU HAVE OVERCROWDING LIKE THEY HAVE IN 740 00:38:34,214 --> 00:38:36,616 THE WEST AIDA DISTRICT. 741 00:38:36,616 --> 00:38:39,152 >> MR. BALUKOFF THAT QUESTION ABOUT FUNDING BUILDINGS DID GO 742 00:38:39,152 --> 00:38:41,888 TO THE STATE SUPREME COURT AND THERE WAS A RULING ON THAT BUT 743 00:38:41,888 --> 00:38:44,724 WHAT ABOUT OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS? 744 00:38:44,724 --> 00:38:47,794 HAVE WE ALWAYS HAD THIS PROBLEM? 745 00:38:47,794 --> 00:38:49,729 HAVE WE NEVER MET THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT TO 746 00:38:49,729 --> 00:38:51,431 FUND OUR SCHOOLS IN IDAHO? 747 00:38:51,431 --> 00:38:54,234 ARE OUR FUNDING PROBLEMS SOMETHING NEW? 748 00:38:54,234 --> 00:39:00,106 >> I THINK PRIOR TO 2006, WHEN WE DID THE SPECIAL TAX SHIFT, 749 00:39:00,106 --> 00:39:05,111 AND GOT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY TAX FUNDING AND REPLACED IT WITH 750 00:39:05,111 --> 00:39:10,383 SALES TAX, THAT WE WERE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF FUNDING 751 00:39:10,383 --> 00:39:13,453 SCHOOLS, BECAUSE BESIDES DISTRICTS PASSING OR BEING ABLE 752 00:39:13,453 --> 00:39:19,125 TO TAX AND COLLECT PROPERTY TAX, THERE IS A FUNDING FORMULA THAT 753 00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:23,563 TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE VARIATIONS IN MARKET VALUE AND 754 00:39:23,563 --> 00:39:28,234 THE ABILITY OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO IMPOSE PROPERTY TAXES AND 755 00:39:28,234 --> 00:39:32,772 THAT FUNDING SOURCE OR THAT FUNDING FORMULA DID A FAIRLY 756 00:39:32,772 --> 00:39:36,676 DECENT JOB OF EQUALIZING THE FUNDING BETWEEN SCHOOL 757 00:39:36,676 --> 00:39:40,613 DISTRICTS, THE LARGE WEALTHY URBAN DISTRICTS VERSUS THE SMALL 758 00:39:40,613 --> 00:39:42,949 RURAL DISTRICTS WITHOUT MARKET VALUE. 759 00:39:42,949 --> 00:39:44,784 >> ALL RIGHT, IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. 760 00:39:44,784 --> 00:39:46,986 >> WE HAD A BETTER FUNDING SYSTEM IN THE PAST THAN WE HAVE 761 00:39:46,986 --> 00:39:47,420 RIGHT NOW. 762 00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:49,155 >> AND MR. BUJAK, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 763 00:39:49,155 --> 00:39:50,890 HAVE WE NEVER MET THAT CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT TO 764 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:52,092 FUND OUR SCHOOLS? 765 00:39:52,092 --> 00:39:54,728 >> I DISAGREE THAT WE'VE NEVER MET THE STANDARD. 766 00:39:54,728 --> 00:39:59,099 I THINK HISTORICALLY, WE'VE DONE OKAY AND REALLY I'M NOT SURE, 767 00:39:59,099 --> 00:40:01,701 CERTAINLY EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED IN IDAHO AND FUNDING 768 00:40:01,701 --> 00:40:04,738 FOR EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED IN IDAHO. 769 00:40:04,738 --> 00:40:08,808 THERE IS NO QUESTION, BUT ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO STEP BACK 770 00:40:08,808 --> 00:40:11,978 AND TAKE A LOOK AT IS THE MODEL THAT'S BEING USED, NOT JUST IN 771 00:40:11,978 --> 00:40:14,347 EDUCATION, BUT IN HEALTHCARE AND OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE THE ANSWER 772 00:40:14,347 --> 00:40:16,916 ISN'T ALWAYS JUST THROW MORE MONEY AT THE PROBLEM. 773 00:40:16,916 --> 00:40:21,187 I MEAN, IDAHO'S KIDS ARE NOT GETTING THE FUNDING THEY 774 00:40:21,187 --> 00:40:21,454 DESERVE. 775 00:40:21,454 --> 00:40:24,290 THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL, EITHER. 776 00:40:24,290 --> 00:40:26,760 SO I DON'T KNOW THAT JUST THROWING MORE MONEY AT IT SOLVES 777 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,460 THE PROBLEM. 778 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:31,398 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MODEL IMPROVED AND CHANGED, AS WELL. 779 00:40:31,398 --> 00:40:32,899 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR GOVERNOR OTTER. 780 00:40:32,899 --> 00:40:35,769 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, YOU SAID REPEATEDLY THAT IN THE LUNA LAWS 781 00:40:35,769 --> 00:40:41,775 WHICH THE VOTERS REJECTED WE HAD A GOOD PRODUCT, BUT A BAD 782 00:40:41,775 --> 00:40:42,308 PROCESS. 783 00:40:42,308 --> 00:40:45,912 THE VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY REJECTED THAT PRODUCT. 784 00:40:45,912 --> 00:40:48,848 NOW, YOU HAVE A TASK FORCE THAT YOU SAY HAS FOLLOWED A GOOD 785 00:40:48,848 --> 00:40:52,385 PROCESS AND COME UP WITH A GOOD PRODUCT. 786 00:40:52,385 --> 00:40:57,023 BUT THERE IS A $350 MILLION DIFFERENCE FROM THE LUNA LAW'S 787 00:40:57,023 --> 00:40:57,323 APPROACH. 788 00:40:57,323 --> 00:41:00,527 THIS PROPOSAL IS TO PUT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE MONEY INTO 789 00:41:00,527 --> 00:41:04,731 IMPROVING THE SCHOOLS RATHER THAN TO SHIFT PRIORITIES WITHIN 790 00:41:04,731 --> 00:41:04,998 THEM. 791 00:41:04,998 --> 00:41:07,901 ISN'T THERE A DIFFERENCE? 792 00:41:07,901 --> 00:41:09,602 >> WELL, NO. 793 00:41:09,602 --> 00:41:16,710 BETSY, IN A BIPARTISAN WAY, THE PROP ONE TOOK SEVEN PIECES OF 794 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:21,348 LEGISLATION IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH BASICALLY PROP ONE. 795 00:41:21,348 --> 00:41:23,183 IT GOT BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. 796 00:41:23,183 --> 00:41:25,352 IT GOT BICAMERAL SUPPORT. 797 00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:31,024 FOR NOT MAYBE NOT ALL SEVEN OF THOSE PIECES OF LEGISLATION, BUT 798 00:41:31,024 --> 00:41:36,196 THE LEGISLATURE VIEWED THOSE AS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO, THE RIGHT 799 00:41:36,196 --> 00:41:40,767 DIRECTION TO GO AND SO THEY ONE BY ONE INSTEAD OF JUST ONE PROP, 800 00:41:40,767 --> 00:41:45,105 THEY TOOK SEVEN OF THE BILLS AND SAID HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO 801 00:41:45,105 --> 00:41:45,305 DO. 802 00:41:45,305 --> 00:41:48,408 THEN I APPOINTED THE TASK FORCE. 803 00:41:48,408 --> 00:41:51,378 LUNA AND I DIDN'T HAVE A TASK FORCE ON PROPS TWO AND THREE. 804 00:41:51,378 --> 00:41:55,682 THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 805 00:41:55,682 --> 00:41:59,986 PROPS TWO AND THREE ARE BASICALLY THE 20 RECOMMENDATIONS 806 00:41:59,986 --> 00:42:03,056 THAT HAVE NOW BEEN BY THIS TASK FORCE THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER BY 807 00:42:03,056 --> 00:42:07,427 ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN EDUCATION THAT HAVE SPENT TWO 808 00:42:07,427 --> 00:42:14,000 YEARS IN THE PROCESS AND HAVE BROKEN DOWN INTO SUBCOMMITTEES 809 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,436 TO PERFECT THOSE PROCESSES TO COME BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE IF 810 00:42:16,436 --> 00:42:18,271 WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LAW. 811 00:42:18,271 --> 00:42:20,640 PLUS, THE FACT IT WAS A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM. 812 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,877 PROPS ONE, TWO, AND THREE WEREN'T FIVE YEARS. 813 00:42:23,877 --> 00:42:25,512 THEY WERE BOOM, RIGHT AWAY. 814 00:42:25,512 --> 00:42:29,349 AND ALSO, IT'S GOT A $350 MILLION PRICE TAG ON IT, WHICH 815 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:34,287 WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE ECONOMY, WE'RE NOT GOING 816 00:42:34,287 --> 00:42:39,726 TO HAVE TO RAISE TAXES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT $350 MILLION 817 00:42:39,726 --> 00:42:40,026 INVESTMENT. 818 00:42:40,026 --> 00:42:42,195 >> DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW-UP, BRIEFLY? 819 00:42:42,195 --> 00:42:46,933 >> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE OTHER CANDIDATES' VIEWS. 820 00:42:46,933 --> 00:42:50,003 >> THANK YOU. 821 00:42:50,003 --> 00:42:52,939 $35 MILLION INCREASE IN STATE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS LOOKS LIKE A 822 00:42:52,939 --> 00:42:57,644 10-YEAR PROGRAM, NOT A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM AND THE PROCESS AGAIN, 823 00:42:57,644 --> 00:42:58,978 YOU HAD A GOOD START. 824 00:42:58,978 --> 00:43:02,215 WE HAD A BROAD RANGE OF STAKEHOLDERS ON THE GOVERNOR'S 825 00:43:02,215 --> 00:43:05,685 TASK FORCE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE GOVERNOR NEVER ATTENDED ANY 826 00:43:05,685 --> 00:43:08,788 OF THE MEETINGS, NOT EVEN THE FIRST ONE TO KICK IT OFF AND 827 00:43:08,788 --> 00:43:15,328 GIVE THEM THEIR MISSION AND SINCE THEY'VE SMIT -- SPLIT INTO 828 00:43:15,328 --> 00:43:18,264 SUBCOMMITTEES, AND THERE IS ONE WORKING TEACHER ON THE 829 00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:22,235 SUBCOMMITTEE ON TIERED LICENSURE AND CAREER LADDER. 830 00:43:22,235 --> 00:43:25,438 SIX LEGISLATORS WHICH IN MY VIEW CARRIES WAY TOO MUCH WEIGHT AND 831 00:43:25,438 --> 00:43:30,643 THEY CAME UP WITH A PRODUCT THAT IS GETTING AN EARFUL IN THE 832 00:43:30,643 --> 00:43:33,880 HEARINGS AS THEY GO AROUND THE STATE PRESENTING THEIR PROPOSAL 833 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,818 TO GET FEEDBACK FROM EDUCATORS, FROM TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS AND 834 00:43:38,818 --> 00:43:39,252 SUPERINTENDENTS. 835 00:43:39,252 --> 00:43:41,821 I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT. 836 00:43:41,821 --> 00:43:44,824 IN FACT, FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I GET 837 00:43:44,824 --> 00:43:51,831 AS I TALK WITH EDUCATORS, TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS, AND 838 00:43:51,831 --> 00:43:55,101 SUPERINTENDENTS, IS HOW CONCERNED THEY ARE WITH THIS 839 00:43:55,101 --> 00:43:56,836 TIERED LICENSURE PROPOSAL. 840 00:43:56,836 --> 00:44:00,407 SUPERINTENDENTS SEE IT AS ANOTHER OBSTACLE THAT WILL KEEP 841 00:44:00,407 --> 00:44:06,246 THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO FILL TEACHING VACANCIES IN THEIR 842 00:44:06,246 --> 00:44:07,247 DISTRICT. 843 00:44:07,247 --> 00:44:09,416 I'VE HAD TEACHERS TELL ME THEY'RE GOING TO RETIRE AT THE 844 00:44:09,416 --> 00:44:14,320 END OF THE YEAR AND CREATE MORE VACANCIES. 845 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,888 >> MR. BUJAK. 846 00:44:14,888 --> 00:44:17,357 >> BRIEFLY, WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE PLAN, WE CAN'T 847 00:44:17,357 --> 00:44:19,259 GUARANTEE THAT EVERY LEGISLATURE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS GOING 848 00:44:19,259 --> 00:44:21,728 TO FUND THE PLAN. 849 00:44:21,728 --> 00:44:24,531 SO WE CAN ONLY FUND IT ONE YEAR AT A TIME. 850 00:44:24,531 --> 00:44:26,433 ONE LEGISLATURE CAN'T BIND THE NEXT. 851 00:44:26,433 --> 00:44:30,537 I WORRY THAT THE FUNDING ISN'T IN PLACE TO THE DEGREE THAT THE 852 00:44:30,537 --> 00:44:33,340 GOVERNOR THINKS IT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 853 00:44:33,340 --> 00:44:36,343 >> IN THE FIRST PLACE, LET ME RESPOND TO WHAT A.J. SAID, I 854 00:44:36,343 --> 00:44:37,610 THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR. 855 00:44:37,610 --> 00:44:41,247 HE SAID THEY'RE GOING AROUND THE STATE AND THEY'RE LISTENING TO 856 00:44:41,247 --> 00:44:41,614 PEOPLE. 857 00:44:41,614 --> 00:44:43,717 WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE DOING THAT? 858 00:44:43,717 --> 00:44:44,818 THEY WANT TO PERFECT IT. 859 00:44:44,818 --> 00:44:46,720 THEY WANT TO MAKE IT WORK. 860 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:51,358 FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST STANDING BY AND SAYING WE DON'T 861 00:44:51,358 --> 00:44:54,461 WANT ACCOUNTABILITY, WE DON'T WANT ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE 862 00:44:54,461 --> 00:44:57,263 CLASSROOM, WE JUST WANT INCREASED PAY, YOU DON'T WANT 863 00:44:57,263 --> 00:44:57,997 ANY ACCOUNTABILITY. 864 00:44:57,997 --> 00:45:01,968 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING OUT 865 00:45:01,968 --> 00:45:07,040 AND LISTENING AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN PROCESS AND 866 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:07,307 PRODUCT. 867 00:45:07,307 --> 00:45:09,609 [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> I'VE NEVER HEARD ONE TEACHER 868 00:45:09,609 --> 00:45:12,412 OR PRINCIPAL OR SUPERINTENDENT SAY THEY DIDN'T WANT 869 00:45:12,412 --> 00:45:12,779 ACCOUNTABILITY. 870 00:45:12,779 --> 00:45:13,713 THEY'RE FOR IT. 871 00:45:13,713 --> 00:45:15,515 THEY WANT FAIR ACCOUNTABILITY. 872 00:45:15,515 --> 00:45:16,616 >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION -- 873 00:45:16,616 --> 00:45:23,089 [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> ON THE TIERED LICENSURE 874 00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:24,858 PROGRAM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF TEACHERS VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS, 875 00:45:24,858 --> 00:45:28,094 ABOUT THE PROCESS, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING CUT OUT 876 00:45:28,094 --> 00:45:28,328 AGAIN. 877 00:45:28,328 --> 00:45:32,632 HOW DO YOU ASSURE THEM THAT THIS IS NOT DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN? 878 00:45:32,632 --> 00:45:35,635 >> I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASSURE BY THE TIERED LICENSURE 879 00:45:35,635 --> 00:45:37,904 IS SHOW THEM THAT THEY'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY, THEY'VE GOT A 880 00:45:37,904 --> 00:45:44,010 CAREER LADDER, THEY'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY BY INCREASING THEIR 881 00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:47,247 PROFESSIONAL CAPABILITIES, BY INCREASING THEIR LICENSURE FROM 882 00:45:47,247 --> 00:45:51,918 RESIDENCY ON UP TO TEACHER ON UP TO PROFESSIONAL, THAT THEY'RE 883 00:45:51,918 --> 00:45:55,822 GOING TO ALSO GET THAT INCREASE IN PAY. 884 00:45:55,822 --> 00:46:00,126 AND THE IDEA THAT'S BEING SPREAD AROUND BY A.J. AND THE REST OF 885 00:46:00,126 --> 00:46:05,932 HIS FOLKS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOSE THEIR LICENSE IS 886 00:46:05,932 --> 00:46:07,500 ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 887 00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:08,201 ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 888 00:46:08,201 --> 00:46:13,039 SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS ON THE TIERED 889 00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:15,842 LICENSURE AND THAT IS WHY THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IS GOING AROUND AND 890 00:46:15,842 --> 00:46:17,944 TALKING TO PEOPLE AND LISTENING TO PEOPLE. 891 00:46:17,944 --> 00:46:24,517 WHAT WILL WORK, WHAT WILL HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY, WHAT WILL KEEP 892 00:46:24,517 --> 00:46:26,419 THE BEST TEACHERS IN IDAHO? 893 00:46:26,419 --> 00:46:28,588 THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US. 894 00:46:28,588 --> 00:46:31,691 >> ROCKY HAS A YES OR NO QUESTION FOR ALL THREE OF YOU. 895 00:46:31,691 --> 00:46:32,425 >> A SIMPLE YES OR NO. 896 00:46:32,425 --> 00:46:36,996 DO YOU SUPPORT THE TIERED LICENSURE PROPOSAL? 897 00:46:36,996 --> 00:46:38,264 YES OR NO. 898 00:46:38,264 --> 00:46:38,698 >> NO. 899 00:46:38,698 --> 00:46:38,965 >> NO. 900 00:46:38,965 --> 00:46:40,166 >> YES. 901 00:46:40,166 --> 00:46:40,533 >> ALL RIGHT. 902 00:46:40,533 --> 00:46:41,434 MOVING ON. 903 00:46:41,434 --> 00:46:46,906 THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM ROCKY BARKER ON JOBS FOR GOVERNOR 904 00:46:46,906 --> 00:46:48,274 OTTER. 905 00:46:48,274 --> 00:46:52,078 >> GOVERNOR, FOUR YEARS AGO, WHEN WE TALKED, YOU TALKED ABOUT 906 00:46:52,078 --> 00:46:54,180 IDAHO'S ECONOMY BEING BASED ON ITS RESOURCES. 907 00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:57,183 WE TALKED ABOUT FARMING, WE TALKED ABOUT LOGGING AND YES, 908 00:46:57,183 --> 00:46:59,953 YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT ALL TIED IN 909 00:46:59,953 --> 00:47:00,954 TO THOSE. 910 00:47:00,954 --> 00:47:04,457 THIS YEAR, YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE. 911 00:47:04,457 --> 00:47:06,059 THE PEOPLE ARE OUR RESOURCES. 912 00:47:06,059 --> 00:47:08,061 TELL ME WHAT'S DIFFERENT. 913 00:47:08,061 --> 00:47:10,230 HOW HAS OUR ECONOMY CHANGED? 914 00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:11,331 >> OUR ECONOMY HASN'T CHANGED. 915 00:47:11,331 --> 00:47:14,601 IT'S PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. 916 00:47:14,601 --> 00:47:19,506 IT'S HOPEFULLY THAT CHILD THAT'S SETTING IN THE CLASSROOM TODAY 917 00:47:19,506 --> 00:47:27,514 BEING CHALLENGED, THEIR CREATIVE GENIUS BEING CHALLENGED BY A 918 00:47:27,514 --> 00:47:30,850 GOOD TEACHER THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT GENERATION OF FARM 919 00:47:30,850 --> 00:47:35,522 PRODUCTS AND THE NEXT DYNAMIC RAM ACCESS MEMORY CHIP AND THE 920 00:47:35,522 --> 00:47:37,991 NEXT SOFTWARE SYSTEM IN THE STATE. 921 00:47:37,991 --> 00:47:39,993 SO IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH PEOPLE. 922 00:47:39,993 --> 00:47:44,064 I DON'T THINK I EVER DENIED THAT. 923 00:47:44,064 --> 00:47:47,334 WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING IS WE'RE THE FIFTH FASTEST GROWING 924 00:47:47,334 --> 00:47:50,537 ECONOMY IN THE UNITED STATES AND WHO IS OUTGROWING US? 925 00:47:50,537 --> 00:47:52,739 WHO'S AHEAD OF US? 926 00:47:52,739 --> 00:47:57,077 WYOMING, NORTH DAKOTA, WEST VIRGINIA AND OKLAHOMA, ALL 927 00:47:57,077 --> 00:48:00,113 NATURAL RESOURCE STATES, GAS, OIL AND COAL. 928 00:48:00,113 --> 00:48:04,117 THE REASON WE'RE IN FIFTH PLACE WITHOUT GAS, OIL AND COAL IS 929 00:48:04,117 --> 00:48:06,019 BECAUSE OF OUR PEOPLE. 930 00:48:06,019 --> 00:48:10,390 AND BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THAT THEY'RE THE MOST IMPORTANT 931 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:15,695 INGREDIENT IN OUR ABILITY TO GROW OUR COMMITTEE, TO CREATE 932 00:48:15,695 --> 00:48:17,864 THE NEXT GENERATION OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES IN THE STATE OF 933 00:48:17,864 --> 00:48:19,499 IDAHO AND THEY'VE DONE IT. 934 00:48:19,499 --> 00:48:21,935 THAT'S WHY PROJECT 60 WORKED. 935 00:48:21,935 --> 00:48:25,138 >> ROCKY, YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP? 936 00:48:25,138 --> 00:48:27,874 >> GOVERNOR, THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T MAKING 937 00:48:27,874 --> 00:48:32,512 VERY MUCH MONEY AND THEY'RE STILL HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING 938 00:48:32,512 --> 00:48:32,679 BY. 939 00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,849 >> WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT YOU'VE HEARD IS THAT THE 940 00:48:35,849 --> 00:48:40,520 STATE OF IDAHO HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATES OF $7.25 AN HOUR. 941 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,992 ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS, ONE OF THE GREAT VALUES AND VIRTUES IN 942 00:48:45,992 --> 00:48:49,529 IDAHO IS THE WHOLE FAMILY LOOKS THEIR POSITION AND THEY ALL WORK 943 00:48:49,529 --> 00:48:50,897 TO IMPROVE THAT POSITION. 944 00:48:50,897 --> 00:48:53,433 I WAS RAISED IN A FAMILY OF NINE KIDS. 945 00:48:53,433 --> 00:48:58,104 AND THERE WERE A LOT OF JOBS THAT I WENT OUT AND WORKED AT AT 946 00:48:58,104 --> 00:49:01,474 THE MINIMUM WAGE AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HOUSEHOLD 947 00:49:01,474 --> 00:49:01,741 INCOME? 948 00:49:01,741 --> 00:49:03,910 WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT IS ONE THING. 949 00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:06,846 LOOK AT THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND YOU'LL FIND WE'RE WAY UP IN THE 950 00:49:06,846 --> 00:49:12,285 MIDDLE OF THE PACK, NOT NEAR DOWN WHERE WE WERE. 951 00:49:12,285 --> 00:49:17,757 SO YES, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE MAKING 6% OF OUR 952 00:49:17,757 --> 00:49:21,494 WORKFORCE THAT'S MAKING $7.25 AN HOUR. 953 00:49:21,494 --> 00:49:24,497 BUT THEY'RE ALSO STARTING JOBS AND THEY'RE STARTING TO 954 00:49:24,497 --> 00:49:28,935 UNDERSTAND PAYING TAXES AND BEING ON TIME AND THE DISCIPLINE 955 00:49:28,935 --> 00:49:31,037 OF A JOB AND WORK. 956 00:49:31,037 --> 00:49:32,505 >> MR. BALUKOFF YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT? 957 00:49:32,505 --> 00:49:34,974 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT PARENTS PUT 958 00:49:34,974 --> 00:49:37,143 THEIR KIDS TO WORK TO MAKE ENDS MEET? 959 00:49:37,143 --> 00:49:38,878 IS THAT THE ECONOMIC PLAN? 960 00:49:38,878 --> 00:49:41,481 >> NO, THAT IS NOT THE ECONOMIC PLAN AND YOU KNOW -- 961 00:49:41,481 --> 00:49:44,851 >> I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT THE FIFTH FASTEST 962 00:49:44,851 --> 00:49:45,585 GROWING ECONOMY. 963 00:49:45,585 --> 00:49:49,322 THERE ARE THREE STATES, ONLY THREE STATES, WHOSE ECONOMY IS 964 00:49:49,322 --> 00:49:55,261 GROWING SLOWER THAN IDAHO'S, FROM 2006 TO 2013, IDAHO'S 965 00:49:55,261 --> 00:50:02,702 ECONOMY GROW 1.4% WHEN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE WAS 2.5%. 966 00:50:02,702 --> 00:50:06,973 SO WE ARE NOT GROWING IN THE MOST ROBUST WAY. 967 00:50:06,973 --> 00:50:08,441 WE'RE BARELY GETTING BY. 968 00:50:08,441 --> 00:50:14,080 OUR GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT IS STILL UNDER $51 BILLION. 969 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,448 >> MR. BUJAK, YOU WANTED TO RESPOND? 970 00:50:15,448 --> 00:50:18,818 >> THIS IS AGAIN TO MY POINT FROM MY OPENING. 971 00:50:18,818 --> 00:50:21,121 WE NEED TO GET ACCESS TO THE LAND. 972 00:50:21,121 --> 00:50:23,823 YOU LOOK AT HIGHER PAYING JOBS IN IDAHO AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE 973 00:50:23,823 --> 00:50:27,460 RELATED TO GETTING ACCESS TO THOSE NATURAL RESOURCES, 974 00:50:27,460 --> 00:50:30,830 LOGGING, MINING, SO WE CAN TAKE A FASTER PACE LIKE THE OTHER 975 00:50:30,830 --> 00:50:33,133 STATES THE GOVERNOR'S TALKED ABOUT. 976 00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:36,536 THAT'S HOW YOU GET IDAHO OUT OF THE SERVICE BASED INDUSTRY THAT 977 00:50:36,536 --> 00:50:37,671 WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. 978 00:50:37,671 --> 00:50:40,940 >> YOU HAD A QUESTION ROCKY? 979 00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:46,746 >> SO MR. BUJAK, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD ABOUT THE FEDERAL 980 00:50:46,746 --> 00:50:47,113 LANDS. 981 00:50:47,113 --> 00:50:49,416 EVEN IF YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL, FIRST YOU'VE GOT TO WIN A COURT 982 00:50:49,416 --> 00:50:57,323 CASE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS AND THEN IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS 983 00:50:57,323 --> 00:51:00,260 CORRECT, THIS IS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LANDS, IT'S GOING 984 00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:05,632 TO TAKE 10 TO 15 YEARS JUST TO GET THE FOREST INTO THE SHAPE 985 00:51:05,632 --> 00:51:08,001 THAT WE'LL START MAKING ANY MONEY ON THAT. 986 00:51:08,001 --> 00:51:09,869 AND IT'S GOING TO COST THE STATE A LOT OF MONEY. 987 00:51:09,869 --> 00:51:14,007 THAT'S A LONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AS AN 988 00:51:14,007 --> 00:51:15,608 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, ISN'T IT? 989 00:51:15,608 --> 00:51:19,079 >> I THINK YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ANGLES. 990 00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:20,447 YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE COURT. 991 00:51:20,447 --> 00:51:22,115 I THINK THAT'S THE LEAST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT. 992 00:51:22,115 --> 00:51:26,820 I THINK A BETTER WAY IS TO WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH OUR 993 00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:30,657 DELEGATION IN D.C. AND HAVE CONGRESS GIVE US ACCESS TO THOSE 994 00:51:30,657 --> 00:51:33,727 LANDS AND PROVE THAT WE CAN MANAGE IT IN A SUPERIOR WAY AND 995 00:51:33,727 --> 00:51:36,930 A RESPONSIBLE WAY SO THAT WE CAN BALANCE ECONOMIC GROWTH WITH 996 00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:39,566 RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN IDAHO SO MAYBE IT'S A LONG 997 00:51:39,566 --> 00:51:41,568 PATH, BUT EVEN THE LONGEST JOURNEY STARTS WITH A SINGLE 998 00:51:41,568 --> 00:51:44,537 STEP AND IF YOU DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH LEVELING THE 999 00:51:44,537 --> 00:51:47,107 PLAYING FIELD FOR SMALL BUSINESS, WE CAN JUMP START THE 1000 00:51:47,107 --> 00:51:50,744 ECONOMY THERE AND WORK TOWARDS THIS GOAL DOWN THE ROAD AND 1001 00:51:50,744 --> 00:51:53,947 BRING IDAHO TO A BRIGHTER FUTURE. 1002 00:51:53,947 --> 00:51:56,850 >> MR. BALUKOFF, DO YOU THINK THIS WOULD WORK? 1003 00:51:56,850 --> 00:51:58,585 WHAT MR. BUJAK HAS OUTLINED? 1004 00:51:58,585 --> 00:52:01,721 >> WE CANNOT AFFORD TO OWN THE FEDERAL LAND. 1005 00:52:01,721 --> 00:52:06,326 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS ALMOST $400 MILLION A YEAR TO 1006 00:52:06,326 --> 00:52:08,628 MANAGE THE FEDERAL LANDS IN IDAHO. 1007 00:52:08,628 --> 00:52:10,897 I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD GET THAT MONEY. 1008 00:52:10,897 --> 00:52:14,901 YOU WOULD HAVE TO RAISE TAXES OR SELL OFF THE LAND. 1009 00:52:14,901 --> 00:52:19,005 AND NEITHER ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE GOOD. 1010 00:52:19,005 --> 00:52:21,341 ONE OF THE REASONS MANY OF US LIVE IN IDAHO IS TO HAVE ACCESS 1011 00:52:21,341 --> 00:52:22,609 TO THE PUBLIC LANDS. 1012 00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:27,647 WE LIKE TO HUNT AND FISH AND CAMP AND HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE 1013 00:52:27,647 --> 00:52:27,914 LANDS. 1014 00:52:27,914 --> 00:52:31,251 IF YOU SELL THEM OFF, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE NO TRESPASSING 1015 00:52:31,251 --> 00:52:33,720 SIGNS AND WE'LL HAVE OUR ACCESS CUT OFF. 1016 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:38,191 I THINK THAT WE CAN WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH THE FOREST 1017 00:52:38,191 --> 00:52:46,933 SERVICE AND BE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMICALLY AND ECOLOGICALLY 1018 00:52:46,933 --> 00:52:49,569 RESPONSIBLE TIMBER HARVEST, BUT IT'S A FOOL'S ERRAND TO TRY TO 1019 00:52:49,569 --> 00:52:51,204 TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE FEDERAL LANDS. 1020 00:52:51,204 --> 00:52:53,673 IF WE WANT TO GROW OUR ECONOMY, WE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON THE 1021 00:52:53,673 --> 00:52:56,209 SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE IN THE STATE OF 1022 00:52:56,209 --> 00:52:56,409 IDAHO. 1023 00:52:56,409 --> 00:53:00,714 WE HAVE 40,000 OF THEM AND WE KNOW THAT 80% OF NEW JOB GROWTH 1024 00:53:00,714 --> 00:53:02,048 COMES FROM SMALL BUSINESS. 1025 00:53:02,048 --> 00:53:06,252 IF WE CAN HELP THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES THRIVE AND GROW, AND 1026 00:53:06,252 --> 00:53:10,523 JUST THINK, JUST 10% OF THEM ADDED ONE EMPLOYEE, THAT WOULD 1027 00:53:10,523 --> 00:53:12,625 BE 4,000 NEW JOBS. 1028 00:53:12,625 --> 00:53:15,695 AND IT WOULDN'T TAKE MONEY AND TAX BREAKS TO GET THOSE SMALL 1029 00:53:15,695 --> 00:53:16,696 BUSINESSES TO GROW. 1030 00:53:16,696 --> 00:53:20,633 WE CAN HELP THEM THROUGH PROVIDING THE RIGHT KIND OF 1031 00:53:20,633 --> 00:53:24,270 COLLEGE AND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES THAT THEY NEED TO HIRE 1032 00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:28,274 AND WE CAN THEM WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, HELPING THEM TO 1033 00:53:28,274 --> 00:53:31,344 FIND INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW BUSINESSES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES 1034 00:53:31,344 --> 00:53:32,379 TO GROW. 1035 00:53:32,379 --> 00:53:41,087 I WAS TALKING WITH A NAMPA HIGH TECH FIRM WHO IS EXPERIENCING 1036 00:53:41,087 --> 00:53:43,723 TREMENDOUS DEMAND AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND, BUT THEY CAN'T 1037 00:53:43,723 --> 00:53:47,193 FIND THE GRADUATES THEY NEED IN IDAHO SO THAT COMPANY IS 1038 00:53:47,193 --> 00:53:51,398 EXPANDING IN INDIANA BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN FIND THE 1039 00:53:51,398 --> 00:53:51,731 GRADUATES. 1040 00:53:51,731 --> 00:53:54,567 WE SHOULD BE HELPING THAT COMPANY FIND THE GRADUATES HERE 1041 00:53:54,567 --> 00:53:57,737 IN IDAHO SO THEY CAN EXPAND IN NAMPA. 1042 00:53:57,737 --> 00:53:59,239 >> GOVERNOR OTTER YOU WANTED TO RESPOND? 1043 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,574 >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. 1044 00:54:01,574 --> 00:54:06,713 NUMBER ONE IT WAS INTERESTING THAT BALUKOFF HAD TO GO ALL THE 1045 00:54:06,713 --> 00:54:10,784 WAY BACK TO FIND A YEAR WHERE IDAHO HAD MAYBE NOT PERFORMED AS 1046 00:54:10,784 --> 00:54:12,052 WELL AS OTHERS. 1047 00:54:12,052 --> 00:54:17,223 I'M TELLING YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIGURES FROM THE FEBRUARY OF 1048 00:54:17,223 --> 00:54:22,262 2013 TO FEBRUARY OF 2014, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IDAHO IS THE 1049 00:54:22,262 --> 00:54:26,433 FASTEST GROWING PERSONAL INCOME STATE IN THE UNITED STATES AND 1050 00:54:26,433 --> 00:54:30,270 FIFTH FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY BEHIND THOSE OTHER STATES THAT 1051 00:54:30,270 --> 00:54:31,438 HE MENTIONED. 1052 00:54:31,438 --> 00:54:35,442 NOW, HE JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THIS FIRM MOVING TO INDIANA. 1053 00:54:35,442 --> 00:54:42,248 I GOT A LETTER FROM THAT VERY FELLA BECAUSE A.J. HAD TALKED TO 1054 00:54:42,248 --> 00:54:47,020 HIM ABOUT WE NEED TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE AND HE SAID THAT'S 1055 00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:50,390 HOW I TRAIN MY PEOPLE UP, IN SOME CASES THAT'S HOW I TRAINED 1056 00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:55,195 THEM UP, THEY GET TO GO TO CWI, BUT I CAN TRAIN THEM UP FOR THE 1057 00:54:55,195 --> 00:54:56,029 DISCIPLINES THAT I NEED. 1058 00:54:56,029 --> 00:54:59,666 I DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE AND BY THE WAY, 1059 00:54:59,666 --> 00:55:03,203 BUTCH, I'M NOT MOVING TO INDIANA. 1060 00:55:03,203 --> 00:55:04,237 I GOT THE LETTER. 1061 00:55:04,237 --> 00:55:05,605 I CAN SHOW YOU THE LETTER. 1062 00:55:05,605 --> 00:55:07,340 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 1063 00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:09,943 >> THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A FACILITY IN INDIANA AND THEY'RE 1064 00:55:09,943 --> 00:55:14,047 HIRING EMPLOYEES AND DOING THE MANUFACTURING IN INDIANA. 1065 00:55:14,047 --> 00:55:15,782 >> MR. BUJAK, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? 1066 00:55:15,782 --> 00:55:18,585 >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE FEDERAL LANDS ISSUE. 1067 00:55:18,585 --> 00:55:22,155 MR. BALUKOFF WAS SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S 1068 00:55:22,155 --> 00:55:24,891 ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE IN IDAHO BECAUSE OF THE HUGE PRICE TAG 1069 00:55:24,891 --> 00:55:26,793 THAT GOES TO MANAGING THE LANDS. 1070 00:55:26,793 --> 00:55:29,629 THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO BUILD THE ECONOMY WITH THAT ONE 1071 00:55:29,629 --> 00:55:30,864 PIECE AND THEN MOVE ON FROM THERE. 1072 00:55:30,864 --> 00:55:36,169 IF YOU TAKE IT BACK ALL AT ONCE IT'S GOING TO BANKRUPT THE 1073 00:55:36,169 --> 00:55:37,904 STATE, BUT A PIECE AT A TIME AND WE CAN DO IT RESPONSIBLY AND 1074 00:55:37,904 --> 00:55:39,339 MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR IDAHO. 1075 00:55:39,339 --> 00:55:41,174 >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 1076 00:55:41,174 --> 00:55:45,612 AND UNDER THE NEW FARM BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN FEBRUARY, STATES 1077 00:55:45,612 --> 00:55:48,081 WERE ASKED TAKE A LOOK AT THE FEDERAL LAND WITHIN YOUR STATE 1078 00:55:48,081 --> 00:55:52,752 AND THOSE THAT ARE UNDER THREAT FROM DISEASE, BUG KILL OR 1079 00:55:52,752 --> 00:55:56,456 OVERGROWTH, INVENTORY THOSE FOR US AND IF YOU'LL SHOW US CERTAIN 1080 00:55:56,456 --> 00:56:00,226 SECTIONS WHICH IDAHO HAS ALREADY DONE, IF YOU'LL SHOW US CERTAIN 1081 00:56:00,226 --> 00:56:02,929 SECTIONS WE WILL WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT FOR YOU TO MANAGE 1082 00:56:02,929 --> 00:56:06,199 THOSE AND WHATEVER YOU CUT OFF, WHATEVER YOU TAKE OFF THE LAND, 1083 00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:11,037 YOU CAN USE WITHIN YOUR OWN ECONOMY AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED 1084 00:56:11,037 --> 00:56:13,306 1,800,000 ACRES THAT HE CAN DO JUST THAT WITH. 1085 00:56:13,306 --> 00:56:18,244 AND WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH OUR LANDS DEPARTMENT. 1086 00:56:18,244 --> 00:56:20,413 SO BUJAK IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 1087 00:56:20,413 --> 00:56:22,682 YOU'VE GOT TO PROVE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE TO THE 1088 00:56:22,682 --> 00:56:25,618 REST OF THE WORLD THAT A.J.'S WRONG, THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST 1089 00:56:25,618 --> 00:56:28,321 GOING TO SELL OFF THE LANDS WILLY-NILLY. 1090 00:56:28,321 --> 00:56:30,156 THAT YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE UNDER YOUR CONTROL 1091 00:56:30,156 --> 00:56:31,691 AND YOUR ECONOMY. 1092 00:56:31,691 --> 00:56:33,993 WHY WOULD WE TAKE CONTROL OF THEM AND THEN GIVE CONTROL TO 1093 00:56:33,993 --> 00:56:34,894 SOMEBODY ELSE? 1094 00:56:34,894 --> 00:56:38,498 >> ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE QUESTION ON JOBS FROM KEVIN. 1095 00:56:38,498 --> 00:56:40,900 >> MR. BALUKOFF, LET'S LOOP BACK TO THE ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE NOW 1096 00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:43,636 AND THE METRICS THAT WE HAVE NOW. 1097 00:56:43,636 --> 00:56:46,706 THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN YOU'VE CITED A LITANY OF STATISTICS 1098 00:56:46,706 --> 00:56:50,276 THAT SUGGEST THAT THE ECONOMY IS STAGNATING OR WORSE. 1099 00:56:50,276 --> 00:56:55,115 SO LET'S FAST FORWARD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND LET'S SAY YOU'RE 1100 00:56:55,115 --> 00:56:59,185 ELECTED GOVERNOR AND YOU'RE MEETING WITH A CEO OF ANOTHER 1101 00:56:59,185 --> 00:56:59,552 STATE. 1102 00:56:59,552 --> 00:57:05,492 WHAT STATISTICS WILL YOU SAY SHOW IDAHO IS A GOOD PLACE TO 1103 00:57:05,492 --> 00:57:05,759 INVEST? 1104 00:57:05,759 --> 00:57:06,826 ARE THERE ANY? 1105 00:57:06,826 --> 00:57:09,229 >> YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS THAT INDICATE WE'VE GOT A GOOD 1106 00:57:09,229 --> 00:57:10,030 VIBRANT ECONOMY. 1107 00:57:10,030 --> 00:57:12,565 WHAT'S THE PER CAPITA ECONOMY? 1108 00:57:12,565 --> 00:57:14,300 IS THAT RISING? 1109 00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:17,604 ARE FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY ON 1110 00:57:17,604 --> 00:57:22,842 WHAT THEY'RE EARNING OR DO THEY HAVE TO WORK TWO OR THREE JOBS? 1111 00:57:22,842 --> 00:57:24,678 YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE JOBS THAT ARE BEING ADDED. 1112 00:57:24,678 --> 00:57:26,680 ARE THEY GOOD-PAYING JOBS? 1113 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,516 ARE WE HELPING THE SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE STATE, AROUND 1114 00:57:29,516 --> 00:57:30,784 THE STATE TO GROW? 1115 00:57:30,784 --> 00:57:35,789 ARE WE GROWING ACROSS THE STATE OR JUST ONE LITTLE ECONOMIC OR 1116 00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:37,857 GEOGRAPHIC SECTOR OF THE STATE? 1117 00:57:37,857 --> 00:57:42,696 SO WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE ECONOMIC INDICATORS THAT WOULD INDICATE 1118 00:57:42,696 --> 00:57:47,067 WHETHER WE ARE GROWING AND GROWING AT A FAST ENOUGH RATE. 1119 00:57:47,067 --> 00:57:49,803 YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT 1120 00:57:49,803 --> 00:57:53,807 PROGRESS UNTIL WE GET OUR SCHOOLS OFF THE BOTTOM. 1121 00:57:53,807 --> 00:57:57,610 WE HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION IN THE STATE OF 1122 00:57:57,610 --> 00:57:57,811 IDAHO. 1123 00:57:57,811 --> 00:58:03,450 WE HAVE TO HAVE THE KIND OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT ONLY 1124 00:58:03,450 --> 00:58:07,687 PRODUCING THE KINDS OF GRADUATES THAT COMPANIES WANT TO HIRE, BUT 1125 00:58:07,687 --> 00:58:10,490 THE KIND OF SCHOOLS PARENTS WANT TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO. 1126 00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:14,294 THEY HAVE TO BE PREPARING THE KIDS FOR WORK AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. 1127 00:58:14,294 --> 00:58:18,198 THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS TRULY MAKE EDUCATION THE TOP 1128 00:58:18,198 --> 00:58:21,968 PRIORITY AND FUND IT PROPERLY AND GET A GOOD REPUTATION FOR 1129 00:58:21,968 --> 00:58:24,037 THE SCHOOLS ALL ACROSS THE STATE. 1130 00:58:24,037 --> 00:58:28,241 AND WHEN WE DO THAT, THAT SHOULD HELP THE ECONOMY GROW AND IT 1131 00:58:28,241 --> 00:58:31,678 WILL HELP COMPANIES FIND THE WORKERS THAT THEY NEED TO THRIVE 1132 00:58:31,678 --> 00:58:32,212 AND GROW. 1133 00:58:32,212 --> 00:58:35,215 >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR ALL THREE OF YOU IF YOU COULD 1134 00:58:35,215 --> 00:58:37,317 ANSWER IN 10 SECONDS OR ELSE. 1135 00:58:37,317 --> 00:58:40,620 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET HIGHER PAYING JOBS IN IDAHO? 1136 00:58:40,620 --> 00:58:41,855 GOVERNOR OTTER? 1137 00:58:41,855 --> 00:58:43,857 >> WE ARE GETTING THEM. 1138 00:58:43,857 --> 00:58:50,330 HORCHATA JUST ADDED 35 JOBS IN SAND POINT, IDAHO. 1139 00:58:50,330 --> 00:58:57,270 WE JUST GOT AMY'S KITCHEN FOR POTENTIALLY 1,000 JOBS IN 1140 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:57,537 POCATELLO. 1141 00:58:57,537 --> 00:59:02,008 WHAT IS IT, SKY WEST JUST ANNOUNCED THEIR NEW SATELLITE 1142 00:59:02,008 --> 00:59:03,176 RIGHT HERE IN IDAHO. 1143 00:59:03,176 --> 00:59:09,382 SO ALL OF THOSE ARE PRETTY GOOD-PAYING JOBS. 1144 00:59:09,382 --> 00:59:13,486 AND WHEN BUSINESSES RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A GOOD, SAFE PLACE 1145 00:59:13,486 --> 00:59:18,658 TO PUT CAPITAL BECAUSE IDAHO'S PREDICTABLE AND WHAT WE HAVE IS 1146 00:59:18,658 --> 00:59:21,828 SUSTAINABLE, THEY'RE GOING TO COME. 1147 00:59:21,828 --> 00:59:22,228 >> MR. BUJAK? 1148 00:59:22,228 --> 00:59:25,465 >> I THINK THE KEY IS GROWING SMALL BUSINESS, NOT ATTRACTING 1149 00:59:25,465 --> 00:59:27,767 BIG BUSINESS WITH SPECIAL INTEREST TAX EXEMPTIONS. 1150 00:59:27,767 --> 00:59:29,869 THAT'S BEEN DISASTROUS IN THE PAST. 1151 00:59:29,869 --> 00:59:32,839 THE GOVERNOR REMEMBERS THE HOKU PLANT THAT WAS A BUST. 1152 00:59:32,839 --> 00:59:36,242 IT EATS UP A LOT OF MONEY AND ECONOMISTS WILL TELL YOU THAT 1153 00:59:36,242 --> 00:59:37,143 DOESN'T WORK. 1154 00:59:37,143 --> 00:59:40,847 SO IT'S BUILDING SMALL BUSINESS AND THEN AGAIN GETTING 1155 00:59:40,847 --> 00:59:48,254 MANUFACTURING AND ENERGY EXPORTING JOBS. 1156 00:59:48,254 --> 00:59:48,688 >> MR. BALUKOFF. 1157 00:59:48,688 --> 00:59:52,325 >> PROPERLY FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS SO THEY ARE PRODUCING THE 1158 00:59:52,325 --> 00:59:54,894 GRADUATES THAT COMPANIES NEED, FOCUSING ON THE SMALL BUSINESSES 1159 00:59:54,894 --> 00:59:59,366 THAT ARE ALREADY HERE IN IDAHO. 1160 00:59:59,366 --> 01:00:03,603 THE GOVERNOR'S ECONOMIC PLAN OF TAX BREAKS AND CHEAP LABOR IS 1161 01:00:03,603 --> 01:00:06,806 NOT A GOOD LONG-TERM PLAN FOR GROWING THE ECONOMY. 1162 01:00:06,806 --> 01:00:11,745 >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM ROCKY BARKER FOR 1163 01:00:11,745 --> 01:00:12,445 MR. BUJAK. 1164 01:00:12,445 --> 01:00:15,248 >> MR. BUJAK, YOU SAID YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. 1165 01:00:15,248 --> 01:00:17,717 BUT YOU WANT TO FIND EXISTING FUNDING TO FILL THE NEED. 1166 01:00:17,717 --> 01:00:21,888 THAT SEEMS TO BE YOUR SOLUTION TO ALL OF IDAHO'S FUNDING WOES 1167 01:00:21,888 --> 01:00:23,923 BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CUT? 1168 01:00:23,923 --> 01:00:25,992 TRANSPORTATION'S REALLY BEEN A TOUGH ISSUE FOR US. 1169 01:00:25,992 --> 01:00:30,997 WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ROADS AND BRIDGES THAT ARE IN TROUBLE. 1170 01:00:30,997 --> 01:00:35,402 CAN WE CUT MORE FROM THAT? 1171 01:00:35,402 --> 01:00:38,371 >> AND I DON'T KNOW -- YOU LOOK AT ME AND SAY YOU'RE A SLASH AND 1172 01:00:38,371 --> 01:00:39,739 CUT KIND OF A GUY. 1173 01:00:39,739 --> 01:00:44,044 I JUST AM NOT INCLINED TO INCREASE TAXES OR FEES WITHOUT 1174 01:00:44,044 --> 01:00:47,580 TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY BEING SPENT AND COMING UP WITH A 1175 01:00:47,580 --> 01:00:48,481 MORE EFFICIENT MODEL. 1176 01:00:48,481 --> 01:00:52,118 AS I TRAVEL AROUND THE STATE AND I REALIZE THAT GOVERNOR OTTER 1177 01:00:52,118 --> 01:00:53,953 SAID HISTORICALLY MAINTAINING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IS A 1178 01:00:53,953 --> 01:00:57,691 BIG DEAL AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT. 1179 01:00:57,691 --> 01:01:00,493 BUT THAT'S NOT THE PREDOMINANT ISSUE ON THE VOTERS' MINDS 1180 01:01:00,493 --> 01:01:03,697 AROUND THE STATE, AND I THINK THAT HAVING THE MONEY TO FIX 1181 01:01:03,697 --> 01:01:06,232 ROADS OR INVEST IN OTHER PROJECTS IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY 1182 01:01:06,232 --> 01:01:09,336 RELATED TO GROWING THAT PIE AND GROWING THE PIE ISN'T ABOUT 1183 01:01:09,336 --> 01:01:10,704 RAISING FEES AND TAXES. 1184 01:01:10,704 --> 01:01:16,810 IT'S ABOUT STIMULATING THE ECONOMY AND GROWING OUR ABILITY 1185 01:01:16,810 --> 01:01:18,912 TO SPEND BASED ON THAT ECONOMY. 1186 01:01:18,912 --> 01:01:24,017 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR MR. BALUKOFF FROM ROCKY. 1187 01:01:24,017 --> 01:01:28,655 >> A SURVEY OF IDAHOANS SAID THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ROADS 1188 01:01:28,655 --> 01:01:32,292 AND BRIDGES, BUT THEY'RE GUN SHY ABOUT PAYING MORE TAXES. 1189 01:01:32,292 --> 01:01:33,460 WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? 1190 01:01:33,460 --> 01:01:33,660 IN. 1191 01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:38,131 >> GOVERNOR OTTER'S FIRST TERM, HE TRIED TO RAISE THE GAS TAX 1192 01:01:38,131 --> 01:01:40,300 AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WOULDN'T LET HIM. 1193 01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:42,002 THAT POINTS OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. 1194 01:01:42,002 --> 01:01:44,404 FIRST OF ALL, THE GOVERNOR DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RAISE 1195 01:01:44,404 --> 01:01:44,671 TAXES. 1196 01:01:44,671 --> 01:01:48,008 THAT HAPPENS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 1197 01:01:48,008 --> 01:01:54,280 THE SECOND THING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS GOVERNOR OTTER 1198 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,648 CLAIMS TO BE BALANCING THE BUDGET. 1199 01:01:55,648 --> 01:01:59,619 WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE THAT REQUIRES A BALANCED BUDGET 1200 01:01:59,619 --> 01:02:03,690 AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT ON WHOEVER IS IN THE GOVERNOR'S 1201 01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:06,259 CHAIR AND WHOEVER IS IN THE LEGISLATURE, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE 1202 01:02:06,259 --> 01:02:08,495 THE BUDGET. 1203 01:02:08,495 --> 01:02:11,531 AND ALTHOUGH GOVERNOR OTTER MAY HAVE TECHNICALLY BALANCED THE 1204 01:02:11,531 --> 01:02:14,868 BUDGET ON PAPER, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE UNDERFUNDING OF 1205 01:02:14,868 --> 01:02:19,072 SCHOOLS AND THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON ROADS AND 1206 01:02:19,072 --> 01:02:23,076 BRIDGES, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IS LIKE TAKING ON DEBT, BECAUSE 1207 01:02:23,076 --> 01:02:25,278 SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE REPAIR OF THOSE ROADS 1208 01:02:25,278 --> 01:02:27,647 AND BRIDGES IN THE FUTURE. 1209 01:02:27,647 --> 01:02:30,350 AND WE NEED TO FACE UP TO THAT FACT AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION 1210 01:02:30,350 --> 01:02:35,121 OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY THE MAINTENANCE ON ROADS AND BRIDGES 1211 01:02:35,121 --> 01:02:38,191 AND OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME WILL IT TAKE AND HOW ARE PEOPLE 1212 01:02:38,191 --> 01:02:39,826 WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT? 1213 01:02:39,826 --> 01:02:44,030 AND ONCE WE'RE DOING THAT, THEN WE WILL TRULY BALANCE THE 1214 01:02:44,030 --> 01:02:47,734 BUDGET, BUT AS LONG AS WE IGNORE THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THE 1215 01:02:47,734 --> 01:02:52,305 DETERIORATING ROADS AND BRIDGES, WE ARE NOT REALLY BALANCING THE 1216 01:02:52,305 --> 01:02:52,572 BUDGET. 1217 01:02:52,572 --> 01:02:55,108 EVEN THOUGH YOUR PAPERS MAY SAY YOU ARE, YOU'RE NOT REALLY 1218 01:02:55,108 --> 01:02:56,943 BALANCING THE BUDGET. 1219 01:02:56,943 --> 01:02:58,778 >> YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR GOVERNOR OTTER? 1220 01:02:58,778 --> 01:03:01,681 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, LET'S GET BACK TO THAT. 1221 01:03:01,681 --> 01:03:03,983 THAT WAS THE CENTERPIECE OF THE 2009 SESSION. 1222 01:03:03,983 --> 01:03:06,319 THAT WAS YOUR SHOWDOWN WITH THE LEGISLATURE. 1223 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:10,857 NOTHING MUCH HAS HAPPENED IN TERMS OF FUNDING HIGHWAYS AND 1224 01:03:10,857 --> 01:03:13,059 TRANSPORTATION SINCE THEN. 1225 01:03:13,059 --> 01:03:19,366 ARE WE NOT FIVE YEARS FURTHER BEHIND THAN WE ARE IN 2009? 1226 01:03:19,366 --> 01:03:25,271 >> YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE -- THAT WAS ACTUALLY '08 1227 01:03:25,271 --> 01:03:26,806 AND '09. 1228 01:03:26,806 --> 01:03:30,877 WE WERE GOING INTO THE RECESSION, THERE WAS A LOT OF 1229 01:03:30,877 --> 01:03:32,645 CONCERN FROM THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT ADDING MORE TO THE 1230 01:03:32,645 --> 01:03:33,380 GASOLINE TAX. 1231 01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:38,651 I LOOKED BACK ON THAT TODAY AND THE LAST TIME THAT I ASKED FOR 2 1232 01:03:38,651 --> 01:03:47,660 CENTS FOR A GAS TAX INCREASE, THE GASOLINE WAS $1.39 A GALLON. 1233 01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:51,097 I HOPE WE'RE HEADED BACK THERE AGAIN BECAUSE I SEE NATIONWIDE 1234 01:03:51,097 --> 01:03:56,036 IT'S ABOUT $3 AND A PENNY TODAY AVERAGE. 1235 01:03:56,036 --> 01:03:59,506 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REAL INTERESTING BECAUSE THE FIRST 1236 01:03:59,506 --> 01:04:03,043 THING I HEARD BALUKOFF SAY WAS I'M GOING TO RID OF ALL THE 1237 01:04:03,043 --> 01:04:05,412 WASTE AND I'LL HAVE MORE MONEY. 1238 01:04:05,412 --> 01:04:10,083 AND THE FIRST THING THAT WE WENT THROUGH BEFORE WE ASKED FOR ANY 1239 01:04:10,083 --> 01:04:14,788 MORE MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION WAS WE MADE THEM GO THROUGH AND 1240 01:04:14,788 --> 01:04:18,958 ZERO BASE BUDGETING BASICALLY AND SAID HOW ARE YOU SPENDING 1241 01:04:18,958 --> 01:04:20,160 EVERY DOLLAR? 1242 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:26,266 WE TOOK OUT $51 MILLION OF COSTS THAT WE HAD BECAUSE WE DECIDED 1243 01:04:26,266 --> 01:04:32,072 WE WEREN'T BOTH TIP TOE OUTSIDE THE FOG LINE. 1244 01:04:32,072 --> 01:04:37,344 THERE WAS SOME OTHER ECONOMIES THAT WE FOUND AND WE FOUND $51 1245 01:04:37,344 --> 01:04:40,814 MILLION BEFORE I WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE AND ASKED FOR MONEY. 1246 01:04:40,814 --> 01:04:43,650 THAT'S EXACTLY WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE WE'VE GOT TO FIND MONEY 1247 01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:48,621 AND ROCKY, THE POLL WASN'T EXACTLY THAT WAY. 1248 01:04:48,621 --> 01:04:52,926 IT SAID THE LOCAL DISTRICTS, THE CITIES AND COUNTIES, ROADS WERE 1249 01:04:52,926 --> 01:04:53,259 TERRIBLE. 1250 01:04:53,259 --> 01:04:55,195 IT SAID THE STATES WEREN'T THAT BAD. 1251 01:04:55,195 --> 01:04:59,866 BUT IN 10 YEARS, THEY WERE GOING TO BE BAD. 1252 01:04:59,866 --> 01:05:03,470 SO THAT POLL GIVES US TWO SIGNALS, BUT THE BIGGEST SIGNAL 1253 01:05:03,470 --> 01:05:06,306 WAS YES, WE NEED TO RAISE MONEY BUT DON'T TAX MONEY. 1254 01:05:06,306 --> 01:05:09,409 >> MR. BUJAK, YOU WANTED YOU WANTED TO RESPOND? 1255 01:05:09,409 --> 01:05:12,612 >> YOU TALK ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF FUNDING AND ONE THING 1256 01:05:12,612 --> 01:05:17,417 WE NEED TO LOOK AT, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS YOU CAN ADJUST THE 1257 01:05:17,417 --> 01:05:20,153 MODELS THAT GOVERNMENT USES IN ORDER TO GET MONEY. 1258 01:05:20,153 --> 01:05:23,323 ONE WOULD BE THE PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT RETIREMENT SYSTEM OF 1259 01:05:23,323 --> 01:05:26,426 IDAHO IS REALLY WELL RUN, AND IT'S USED NOT JUST FOR THE STATE 1260 01:05:26,426 --> 01:05:29,095 LEVEL GOVERNMENTS, BUT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS WELL AND THEY 1261 01:05:29,095 --> 01:05:30,964 TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE. 1262 01:05:30,964 --> 01:05:33,867 WE COULD DO THE SAME THING WITH HEALTH INSURANCE HERE IN IDAHO 1263 01:05:33,867 --> 01:05:37,270 AND NOT HAVE SEPARATE CONTRACTS FOR THE DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT 1264 01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:37,604 AGENCIES. 1265 01:05:37,604 --> 01:05:42,442 LET'S PUT STATE AND EDUCATION INSURANCE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT 1266 01:05:42,442 --> 01:05:45,111 INSURANCE ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA, NEGOTIATE A MORE 1267 01:05:45,111 --> 01:05:50,283 FAVORABLE CONTRACT, MAYBE ADJUST THE PREMIUM ON THE POLICY AND 1268 01:05:50,283 --> 01:05:53,186 SUPPLEMENT IT WITH HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS AND WE COULD 1269 01:05:53,186 --> 01:05:55,288 SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THERE, AS WELL. 1270 01:05:55,288 --> 01:05:58,958 THERE'S WAYS WE CAN THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND GENERATE 1271 01:05:58,958 --> 01:05:59,759 MORE INCOME. 1272 01:05:59,759 --> 01:06:02,862 >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON. 1273 01:06:02,862 --> 01:06:08,768 SO IF THAT'S WORK, FAILING THAT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD BE 1274 01:06:08,768 --> 01:06:12,405 WILLING TO LOOK INTO INCREASING THE GAS TAX? 1275 01:06:12,405 --> 01:06:16,609 >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE, IF THERE'S NO WAY TO 1276 01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:19,779 SQUEEZE THE MONEY OUT OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK 1277 01:06:19,779 --> 01:06:22,415 AT THAT OPTION, BUT IT'S NOT ONE I WOULD FAVOR AND IT WOULD A 1278 01:06:22,415 --> 01:06:24,517 COURSE OF LAST RESORT. 1279 01:06:24,517 --> 01:06:26,252 >> SAME QUESTION FOR YOU GOVERNOR OTTER. 1280 01:06:26,252 --> 01:06:28,521 >> YOU USED THE RIGHT WORD, SQUEEZE. 1281 01:06:28,521 --> 01:06:29,522 I TRIED IT. 1282 01:06:29,522 --> 01:06:34,327 I'VE TRIED IT TWICE. 1283 01:06:34,327 --> 01:06:37,097 THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS AND THROUGH THE POLLING THAT ROCKY 1284 01:06:37,097 --> 01:06:40,367 JUST REFERRED TO, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID YES, WE NEED MORE 1285 01:06:40,367 --> 01:06:43,703 MONEY, BUT WHEN THE QUESTION CAME DOWN WELL WHO DO WE TAX AND 1286 01:06:43,703 --> 01:06:45,171 WHAT DO WE TAX? 1287 01:06:45,171 --> 01:06:48,174 IT WAS ALWAYS TAX EVERYBODY, BUT ME. 1288 01:06:48,174 --> 01:06:49,743 DON'T TAX ME. 1289 01:06:49,743 --> 01:06:53,713 TAX THE GUY BEHIND THE TREE. 1290 01:06:53,713 --> 01:06:55,715 AND THAT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC. 1291 01:06:55,715 --> 01:06:59,119 THAT'S WHY THE HOUSE AND SENATE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEES ARE 1292 01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:02,222 TAKING UP THAT POLL RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE GOING TO START 1293 01:07:02,222 --> 01:07:07,227 HAVING HEARINGS ON IT TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE GET THE 1294 01:07:07,227 --> 01:07:07,460 MONEY. 1295 01:07:07,460 --> 01:07:09,763 I DON'T THINK -- I CAN TELL YOU THIS FOR SURE. 1296 01:07:09,763 --> 01:07:17,137 I AM NOT GOING TO BE PART OF TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL 1297 01:07:17,137 --> 01:07:20,607 FUND BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE SPENT ON SOME TRANSPORTATION 1298 01:07:20,607 --> 01:07:20,840 THING. 1299 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,677 THERE'S A SCHOOL OF THOUGHT OUT THERE NOW THAT WHEN YOU BUY A 1300 01:07:23,677 --> 01:07:28,615 TIRE FOR YOUR CAR OR YOU HAVE YOUR CAR SERVICED FOR OIL AND 1301 01:07:28,615 --> 01:07:30,984 FILTER CHANGE, YOU PAY SALES TAX ON THAT. 1302 01:07:30,984 --> 01:07:34,054 AND THERE'S A SCHOOL OF THOUGHT THAT THEY WANT THAT MONEY TO 1303 01:07:34,054 --> 01:07:34,888 COME IN. 1304 01:07:34,888 --> 01:07:37,791 YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM EDUCATION, CORRECTIONS OR HEALTH 1305 01:07:37,791 --> 01:07:41,094 AND WELFARE. 1306 01:07:41,094 --> 01:07:45,532 AND I'M ONE A -- I'M A HUNTER. 1307 01:07:45,532 --> 01:07:51,171 WHEN I GO TO A STORE AND BUY A SHOTGUN OR A FISH HOOK, I PAY 1308 01:07:51,171 --> 01:07:52,339 SALES TAX ON THAT, TOO. 1309 01:07:52,339 --> 01:07:55,508 WHY SHOULDN'T THAT GO TO THE FISH AND GAME? 1310 01:07:55,508 --> 01:07:56,810 WHERE DO YOU STOP THAT? 1311 01:07:56,810 --> 01:07:59,646 SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME COURAGE, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE 1312 01:07:59,646 --> 01:08:03,116 SOMEBODY THAT CAN WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE IN ORDER TO SOLVE 1313 01:08:03,116 --> 01:08:05,185 OUR TRANSPORTATION FUNDING PROBLEMS. 1314 01:08:05,185 --> 01:08:09,823 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS -- >> WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER 1315 01:08:09,823 --> 01:08:11,958 A GAS TAX INCREASE? 1316 01:08:11,958 --> 01:08:15,962 >> CONSIDERING THAT THE GAS TAX HAS NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1317 01:08:15,962 --> 01:08:17,864 1996 -- >> IS THAT A YES. 1318 01:08:17,864 --> 01:08:24,871 >> 25 CENTS A GALLON, YES, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME PURCHASING 1319 01:08:24,871 --> 01:08:28,608 POWER IT DID IN 1996, WE OUGHT TO TALK ABOUT THAT OR PERHAPS 1320 01:08:28,608 --> 01:08:35,949 VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEES BECAUSE THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH. 1321 01:08:35,949 --> 01:08:41,621 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR YOU MR. BALUKOFF FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 1322 01:08:41,621 --> 01:08:46,693 >> MR. BALUKOFF, WHAT ROLE WOULD YOU TAKE ON THE ADD THE WORDS 1323 01:08:46,693 --> 01:08:52,165 LEGISLATION, TO AMEND THE IDAHO HUMAN RIGHTS ACT TO ADD THE 1324 01:08:52,165 --> 01:08:54,801 WORDS SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY AND TO BAN 1325 01:08:54,801 --> 01:08:56,803 DISCRIMINATION ON THOSE BASES? 1326 01:08:56,803 --> 01:08:59,839 >> WELL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A HEARING FOR EIGHT YEARS 1327 01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:04,444 AND THEY'VE BEEN STONE WALLED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR 1328 01:09:04,444 --> 01:09:06,846 HASN'T SHOWN LEADERSHIP ON ALLOWING THOSE PEOPLE TO HAVE A 1329 01:09:06,846 --> 01:09:08,648 HEARING TO ADD THE WORDS. 1330 01:09:08,648 --> 01:09:10,583 I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE HEARING. 1331 01:09:10,583 --> 01:09:12,285 I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD ADD THE WORDS. 1332 01:09:12,285 --> 01:09:15,321 IT'S JUST MAKING A STATEMENT THAT WE BELIEVE IN TREATING ALL 1333 01:09:15,321 --> 01:09:21,394 PEOPLE WITH FAIRNESS AND RESPECT AND OUR REFUSAL TO ADD THE WORDS 1334 01:09:21,394 --> 01:09:23,596 IS HURTING IDAHO'S REPUTATION. 1335 01:09:23,596 --> 01:09:28,301 WE HAVE NINE CITIES AROUND THE STATE NOW THAT HAVE ON THEIR OWN 1336 01:09:28,301 --> 01:09:31,037 PASSED ORDINANCES TO DO THAT VERY THING. 1337 01:09:31,037 --> 01:09:34,574 SO IT SEEMS ONLY REASONABLE THAT WE OUGHT TO GIVE THE HEARING AND 1338 01:09:34,574 --> 01:09:39,612 I'M IN FAVOR OF ADDING THE WORDS AND I WOULD SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP 1339 01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:40,714 ON THAT. 1340 01:09:40,714 --> 01:09:42,882 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM BETSY? 1341 01:09:42,882 --> 01:09:45,685 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, YOU'VE SAID THAT THE ADD THE WORDS ISSUE IS 1342 01:09:45,685 --> 01:09:48,521 UP TO THE LEGISLATURE, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SAID WHERE YOU STAND. 1343 01:09:48,521 --> 01:09:51,691 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE IN IDAHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE FIRED 1344 01:09:51,691 --> 01:09:55,428 FROM THEIR JOBS OR EVICTED FROM THEIR HOMES SOLELY BECAUSE THEY 1345 01:09:55,428 --> 01:09:57,263 ARE GAY? 1346 01:09:57,263 --> 01:10:00,967 >> BETSY FIRST OFF, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY IN IDAHO IS IN 1347 01:10:00,967 --> 01:10:04,804 FAVOR OF DISCRIMINATION AND FOR ANYBODY TO SUGGEST THAT THEY ARE 1348 01:10:04,804 --> 01:10:09,175 I BELIEVE THEY'RE DEAD WRONG AND THEY DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE THE 1349 01:10:09,175 --> 01:10:11,911 VALUE THAT WE HAVE IN IDAHO FOR HUMANKIND. 1350 01:10:11,911 --> 01:10:14,180 NUMBER ONE. 1351 01:10:14,180 --> 01:10:19,252 NUMBER TWO, WHEN THE WHOLE ISSUE CAME UP DURING THE LAST 1352 01:10:19,252 --> 01:10:21,388 LEGISLATIVE ISSUE TWICE I MET WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ASKING 1353 01:10:21,388 --> 01:10:22,522 FOR A HEARING. 1354 01:10:22,522 --> 01:10:27,827 TWICE WE SAT DOWN AND THEY SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 1355 01:10:27,827 --> 01:10:29,929 I THEN WENT TO THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP AND SAID, YOU KNOW, 1356 01:10:29,929 --> 01:10:32,665 YOU GUYS OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT HAVING A HEARING. 1357 01:10:32,665 --> 01:10:34,100 I CAN'T CALL A HEARING. 1358 01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:38,638 I'M IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT AND WHEN THE ANTICS 1359 01:10:38,638 --> 01:10:42,776 GOT SO FAR THEY FOUND PEOPLE HIDING IN CLOSETS, THEY WERE 1360 01:10:42,776 --> 01:10:47,380 STOPPING THEM FROM DOING THEIR DUTIES, THEIR ELECTED DUTIES, I 1361 01:10:47,380 --> 01:10:50,383 THINK THE LEGISLATURE JUST KIND OF BOWED THEIR NECK AND SAID IF 1362 01:10:50,383 --> 01:10:52,585 THAT'S THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO ACT, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU'RE 1363 01:10:52,585 --> 01:10:55,755 GOING TO ACT JUST ASKING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, WHAT ARE YOU 1364 01:10:55,755 --> 01:10:59,325 GOING TO DO IF WE DO LET IT HAPPEN? 1365 01:10:59,325 --> 01:11:03,163 >> GOVERNOR, IF THAT BILL WERE TO PASS, WOULD YOU SIGN IT? 1366 01:11:03,163 --> 01:11:04,898 >> IF THAT BILL WERE TO PASS. 1367 01:11:04,898 --> 01:11:06,499 >> YOU WOULD SIGN IT? 1368 01:11:06,499 --> 01:11:07,067 >> YES. 1369 01:11:07,067 --> 01:11:09,703 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR MR. BUJAK. 1370 01:11:09,703 --> 01:11:12,172 >> MR. BUJAK, WHAT ROLE WOULD YOU TAKE IF YOU ARE GOVERNOR ON 1371 01:11:12,172 --> 01:11:13,640 THE ADD THE WORDS ISSUE? 1372 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,908 >> IT NEEDS TO HAVE A HEARING. 1373 01:11:14,908 --> 01:11:17,377 IT REALLY OFFENDED ME WHEN PEOPLE CAME INTO THE PEOPLE'S 1374 01:11:17,377 --> 01:11:20,547 HOUSE, THEY ENDED UP BEING ARRESTED FOR WHAT I VIEWED AS 1375 01:11:20,547 --> 01:11:22,449 THEM EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. 1376 01:11:22,449 --> 01:11:26,119 IF THE LEGISLATURE HAD A HEARING AND SENT THAT ADD THE WORDS 1377 01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:29,356 LEGISLATION TO MY DESK, I WOULD SIGN IT, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER 1378 01:11:29,356 --> 01:11:31,558 ISSUE OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO RECOGNIZE. 1379 01:11:31,558 --> 01:11:35,729 THERE'S A GROUP OUT THERE THAT IS WORRIED THAT AS WE HAVE GAY 1380 01:11:35,729 --> 01:11:42,569 RIGHTS EXPAND IN IDAHO IT'S GOING TO INFRINGE ON ANOTHER 1381 01:11:42,569 --> 01:11:44,938 PORTION OF THE STATE THAT BELIEVES IN THEIR RELIGIOUS 1382 01:11:44,938 --> 01:11:47,107 FREEDOMS AND THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFFECTED. 1383 01:11:47,107 --> 01:11:49,743 WE NEED TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT THAT AS A STATE AND THAT NEEDS 1384 01:11:49,743 --> 01:11:51,845 TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S CARRIED ON OPENLY. 1385 01:11:51,845 --> 01:11:53,847 WE CAN'T CONTINUE TYING MORE IT. 1386 01:11:53,847 --> 01:11:56,683 I CAN TELL YOU HAVING BEEN PREVIOUSLY COUNCIL TO THE HUMAN 1387 01:11:56,683 --> 01:12:00,086 RIGHTS COMMISSION, IDAHO DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD HISTORY ON 1388 01:12:00,086 --> 01:12:00,520 DISCRIMINATION. 1389 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,856 THEY DON'T EMPOWER OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ENOUGH. 1390 01:12:02,856 --> 01:12:08,695 THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE SUBPOENA POWER IN THIS STATE. 1391 01:12:08,695 --> 01:12:11,531 PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE A FIRM LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SOME CHANGES IN 1392 01:12:11,531 --> 01:12:15,068 IDAHO IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AN ANTIDISCRIMINATION STANCE AS A 1393 01:12:15,068 --> 01:12:15,335 STATE. 1394 01:12:15,335 --> 01:12:18,338 >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM KEVIN RICHARD FOR 1395 01:12:18,338 --> 01:12:19,639 GOVERNOR OTTER. 1396 01:12:19,639 --> 01:12:24,544 >> GOVERNOR OTTER, WE HAVE SPENT ABOUT $90,000 IN TAXPAYER MONEY 1397 01:12:24,544 --> 01:12:29,282 AT THIS POINT FIGHTING THE GAY MARRIAGE ISSUE IN COURT. 1398 01:12:29,282 --> 01:12:32,719 HOW MUCH MORE ARE YOU WILLING TO SPEND ON THIS AND DOES A TIME 1399 01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:36,990 COME WHERE THE STATE HAS TO SAY THAT THE FIGHT IS OVER? 1400 01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:38,925 >> WELL, I'M NOT READY TO SURRENDER THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE 1401 01:12:38,925 --> 01:12:45,365 OF THE STATE OF IDAHO AS THEY EXPRESSED IT IN 2006 IN AN 1402 01:12:45,365 --> 01:12:46,099 OVERWHELMING MAJORITY. 1403 01:12:46,099 --> 01:12:51,471 I'M NOT READY TO SURRENDER THAT TO A FEW FOLKS IN BLACK ROBES. 1404 01:12:51,471 --> 01:12:55,208 I THINK THOSE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THAT WERE VOTING FOR A VALUE 1405 01:12:55,208 --> 01:12:59,679 THAT THEY HAD AND THEY WERE EXPRESSING THAT. 1406 01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:03,883 MY JOB WHEN I RAISED MY HAND AND TOOK THE OATH OF OFFICE WAS TO 1407 01:13:03,883 --> 01:13:05,885 DEFEND THE ENTIRE CONSTITUTION. 1408 01:13:05,885 --> 01:13:09,155 NOW, IF THESE GENTLEMEN FEEL DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT, THEN THEY 1409 01:13:09,155 --> 01:13:11,891 NEED TO BE PREPARED, THAT SHOULD THEY HAVE THE CHANCE TO TAKE THE 1410 01:13:11,891 --> 01:13:17,330 OATH OF OFFICE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY EXCEPT THE BALANCED 1411 01:13:17,330 --> 01:13:21,334 BUDGET, EXCEPT ARTICLE THREE SECTION 28 AND ANY OTHER PART OF 1412 01:13:21,334 --> 01:13:24,704 THE CONSTITUTION THEY DON'T WANT TO DEFEND BUT THAT IS NOT A 1413 01:13:24,704 --> 01:13:27,107 FEDERAL -- THAT IS NOT A DELEGATION OF A FEDERAL POWER. 1414 01:13:27,107 --> 01:13:31,177 THAT IS A STATE POWER, THE POLICE POWER BELONGS TO THE 1415 01:13:31,177 --> 01:13:33,613 STATE, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 1416 01:13:33,613 --> 01:13:37,083 >> KEVIN YOUR NEXT QUESTION WAS FOR MR. BUJAK? 1417 01:13:37,083 --> 01:13:39,652 >> I'M JUST WONDERING MR. BUJAK WHAT YOU FEEL THE GOVERNMENT'S 1418 01:13:39,652 --> 01:13:43,823 ROLE IS IN THE INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE AND THE CONTRACT OF 1419 01:13:43,823 --> 01:13:44,124 MARRIAGE. 1420 01:13:44,124 --> 01:13:46,926 >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOVERNMENT GET OUT OF THE 1421 01:13:46,926 --> 01:13:47,927 MARRIAGE BUSINESS. 1422 01:13:47,927 --> 01:13:51,364 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE LAWS IN THIS STATE CONCERNING 1423 01:13:51,364 --> 01:13:53,299 MARRIAGE, WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT 1424 01:13:53,299 --> 01:13:53,900 CONCERNING MARRIAGE. 1425 01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:57,370 WHERE I DIFFER FROM THE GOVERNOR IS BEING A LAWYER I CAN TELL YOU 1426 01:13:57,370 --> 01:14:00,040 THIS WAS A LOSING BATTLE OUT OF THE GATE IN THE FEDERAL COURT. 1427 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,143 A BETTER COURSE IF THE GOVERNOR HAD WANTED TO STAND FIRM WOULD 1428 01:14:03,143 --> 01:14:09,349 BE TO FIND A GOOD ARGUMENT BASED ON STATE SOVEREIGNTY WHICH WE 1429 01:14:09,349 --> 01:14:16,222 CAN'T BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ECONOMICALLY INDEPENDENT ENOUGH. 1430 01:14:16,222 --> 01:14:18,792 AT THIS POINT, THE SHIP HAS SAILED. 1431 01:14:18,792 --> 01:14:21,161 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN THAT BATTLE IN THE FEDERAL COURTS. 1432 01:14:21,161 --> 01:14:24,731 YOU MIGHT AS WELL START ARGUING ABOUT INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE IN 1433 01:14:24,731 --> 01:14:25,699 IDAHO AT THIS POINT. 1434 01:14:25,699 --> 01:14:29,969 IT'S JUST THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD IN THE COURT. 1435 01:14:29,969 --> 01:14:34,074 >> YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. BALUKOFF? 1436 01:14:34,074 --> 01:14:35,275 >> MR. BALUKOFF, YOU HAD INDICATED THAT YOU THINK IT'S 1437 01:14:35,275 --> 01:14:42,015 TIME TO DROP THIS ISSUE AND DROP THE LEGAL APPEALS ON THIS BUT 1438 01:14:42,015 --> 01:14:45,885 DOESN'T THAT PUT YOU IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION SAYING 1439 01:14:45,885 --> 01:14:50,757 WE'RE GOING TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH POPULARLY ELECTED AND 1440 01:14:50,757 --> 01:14:53,293 APPROVED RATIFIED AMENDMENTS WE'RE GOING TO DEFEND? 1441 01:14:53,293 --> 01:14:55,995 >> I DON'T THINK IT DOES BECAUSE BESIDES TAKING THE OATH TO 1442 01:14:55,995 --> 01:15:00,333 DEFEND THE IDAHO CONSTITUTION, YOU ALSO TAKE AN OATH TO DEFEND 1443 01:15:00,333 --> 01:15:03,503 THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND WE HAVE JUDGES, ALL OVER THE 1444 01:15:03,503 --> 01:15:07,073 UNITED STATES, THAT HAVE FOUND SIMILAR TO THE JUDGE IN IDAHO 1445 01:15:07,073 --> 01:15:11,411 AND TO THE JUDGE PANEL IN THE COURT OF APPEALS THAT HAVE SAID 1446 01:15:11,411 --> 01:15:15,048 THAT THE IDAHO BAN ON GAY MARRIAGE VIOLATES THE UNITED 1447 01:15:15,048 --> 01:15:17,250 STATES CONSTITUTION. 1448 01:15:17,250 --> 01:15:21,221 THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN SETTLED IN THE COURT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. 1449 01:15:21,221 --> 01:15:25,058 AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WON IF WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT IT. 1450 01:15:25,058 --> 01:15:29,062 GOVERNOR OTTER'S STANCE TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT THAT RULING 1451 01:15:29,062 --> 01:15:34,334 REMINDS ME VERY MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED IN 1957 IN ARKANSAS 1452 01:15:34,334 --> 01:15:37,237 WHEN GOVERNOR CHAVEZ STOOD ON THE STEPS OF CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL 1453 01:15:37,237 --> 01:15:42,008 TO TRY TO KEEP BLACK KIDS FROM ATTENDING CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL 1454 01:15:42,008 --> 01:15:44,911 WITH THE WHITE KIDS OF CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL. 1455 01:15:44,911 --> 01:15:48,281 HIS REPUTATION HAS BEEN TAINTED BY THE INCORRECT STANCE HE TOOK 1456 01:15:48,281 --> 01:15:51,084 IN THE NAME OF STATES' RIGHTS. 1457 01:15:51,084 --> 01:15:57,390 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY TODAY THAT WOULD JUSTIFY OR TRY 1458 01:15:57,390 --> 01:16:02,595 TO DEFEND RACIAL SEGREGATION IN THE NAME OF STATES' RIGHTS AND 1459 01:16:02,595 --> 01:16:06,866 LOOKING BACK ON HISTORY DOWN THE ROAD WHEN PEOPLE LOOK BACK ON 1460 01:16:06,866 --> 01:16:09,869 2014, AND SEE THE COURT REGULATION AND SEE GOVERNOR 1461 01:16:09,869 --> 01:16:14,874 OTTER CONTINUING TO FIGHT THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION IN 1462 01:16:14,874 --> 01:16:19,479 THE SAME OF STATES' RIGHTS, THAT WILL BE A BLEMISH ON HIS RECORD. 1463 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,717 >> WELL, THE DIFFERENCE IS AND QUITE FRANKLY A.J. DOESN'T 1464 01:16:23,717 --> 01:16:26,986 UNDERSTAND THIS, AND THE ONE THAT HE QUOTED IN THE LAST 1465 01:16:26,986 --> 01:16:30,990 DEBATE WAS THE 14th AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE EQUAL PROTECTION 1466 01:16:30,990 --> 01:16:32,992 CLAUSE OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. 1467 01:16:32,992 --> 01:16:35,995 I'M QUOTING THE 10th AMENDMENT, THOSE POWERS NOT 1468 01:16:35,995 --> 01:16:37,897 DELEGATED TO THE UNITED STATES BY THE CONSTITUTION NOR DENIED 1469 01:16:37,897 --> 01:16:41,368 TO THE STATES BY IT OR RESERVED TO THE STATES RESPECTFULLY OR TO 1470 01:16:41,368 --> 01:16:42,535 THE PEOPLE. 1471 01:16:42,535 --> 01:16:45,705 THERE'S NOTHING IN THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION ABOUT MARRIAGE. 1472 01:16:45,705 --> 01:16:50,110 THERE IS THE POLICE POWER BELONGS TO THE STATE OF IDAHO. 1473 01:16:50,110 --> 01:16:53,646 >> THE 14th AMENDMENT REQUIRES EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW 1474 01:16:53,646 --> 01:16:56,549 AND WHEN YOU DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND 1475 01:16:56,549 --> 01:16:59,552 DON'T HOLD THEM EQUAL UNDER THE LAW, YOU ARE VIOLATING THE 1476 01:16:59,552 --> 01:17:02,122 UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. 1477 01:17:02,122 --> 01:17:06,926 >> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM ROCKY BARKER FOR 1478 01:17:06,926 --> 01:17:07,660 MR. BUJAK. 1479 01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:11,131 >> MR. BUJAK, YOU'RE OPPOSED TO EXPANDING MEDICAID. 1480 01:17:11,131 --> 01:17:15,702 THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IDAHO HAS A SERIOUS 1481 01:17:15,702 --> 01:17:18,405 INDIGENT HEALTHCARE PROBLEM THAT'S COSTING COUNTIES A LOT OF 1482 01:17:18,405 --> 01:17:18,672 MONEY. 1483 01:17:18,672 --> 01:17:20,140 TELL US YOUR SOLUTION. 1484 01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:21,574 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 1485 01:17:21,574 --> 01:17:22,409 I DO HAVE A SOLUTION. 1486 01:17:22,409 --> 01:17:25,045 IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND I 1487 01:17:25,045 --> 01:17:28,081 RECOGNIZE THE STATE OF WASHINGTON HAS EXPANDED 1488 01:17:28,081 --> 01:17:31,051 MEDICAID, BUT THEY HAVE A MODEL THAT THEY'RE USING THAT CAN BE 1489 01:17:31,051 --> 01:17:34,154 USED IN THE STATE OF IDAHO WITH EXISTING FUNDS TO PROVIDE BETTER 1490 01:17:34,154 --> 01:17:37,691 HEALTHCARE TO MORE PEOPLE WITH LESS COST TO THE STATE AND 1491 01:17:37,691 --> 01:17:39,325 THAT'S THE DIRECT PRIMARY CARE MODEL. 1492 01:17:39,325 --> 01:17:42,696 IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOCTORS HERE IN IDAHO HAVE ALREADY STARTED 1493 01:17:42,696 --> 01:17:44,164 USING. 1494 01:17:44,164 --> 01:17:50,804 IT'S SOMETHING THAT SENATOR THANE HAS INTRODUCED AND THE 1495 01:17:50,804 --> 01:17:54,107 NOTION IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT HIRES 1496 01:17:54,107 --> 01:17:57,911 DOCTORS, 600 TO 800 PATIENTS SO THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD 1497 01:17:57,911 --> 01:18:00,480 PHYSICIAN-PATIENT RELATIONSHIP AND WORK ON PROACTIVE HEALTHCARE 1498 01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,316 INSTEAD OF RESPONDING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHEN PEOPLE COME 1499 01:18:03,316 --> 01:18:03,850 IN. 1500 01:18:03,850 --> 01:18:07,554 PEOPLE PAY BETWEEN 20 AND $80 A MONTH DEPENDING ON AGE AND THEY 1501 01:18:07,554 --> 01:18:09,956 HAVE ALL OF THEIR PRIMARY CARE COVERED. 1502 01:18:09,956 --> 01:18:12,392 THAT'S MUCH CHEAPER THAN WE CAN DO USING MEDICAID RIGHT NOW AND 1503 01:18:12,392 --> 01:18:14,694 IF THERE'S SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC THAT HAPPENS, YOU 1504 01:18:14,694 --> 01:18:17,664 DEAL WITH IT WITH THE WRAP-AROUND CATASTROPHIC POLICY 1505 01:18:17,664 --> 01:18:20,767 AND YOU SUPPLEMENT WITH HEALTHCARE SAVINGS PLANS. 1506 01:18:20,767 --> 01:18:22,502 AND IT'S WORKING IN WASHINGTON. 1507 01:18:22,502 --> 01:18:27,307 IT COULD WORK HERE AND IF WE FUND IT, WE MAY BE SURPRISED AT 1508 01:18:27,307 --> 01:18:30,610 JUST HOW FAR THOSE DOLLARS GO. 1509 01:18:30,610 --> 01:18:33,880 THAT'S SOMETHING IDAHO NEEDS TO TRY BECAUSE IT'S A BETTER 1510 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:34,147 SOLUTION. 1511 01:18:34,147 --> 01:18:39,486 IF YOU JUST EXPAND MEDICAID AND WE JUST PUT MORE FEDERAL MONEY 1512 01:18:39,486 --> 01:18:42,956 THAT THE FETING DON'T HAVE AND MAY OR MAY NOT DEFUND IN THE 1513 01:18:42,956 --> 01:18:46,159 FUTURE OR FORCE THE STATE TO BEAR MORE OF THE COSTS AND YOU 1514 01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:49,696 TAKE THAT MONEY AND THROW IT AT A MODEL THAT'S BROKEN, YOU DON'T 1515 01:18:49,696 --> 01:18:51,698 CREATE BETTER HEALTHCARE. 1516 01:18:51,698 --> 01:18:53,600 >> MR. BALUKOFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT? 1517 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,803 >> I WILL LIKE TO RESPOND QUICKLY. 1518 01:18:56,803 --> 01:19:00,573 YOU KNOW, MOVING FROM A FEE FOR SERVICE MODEL TO MANAGEMENT OF 1519 01:19:00,573 --> 01:19:03,376 POPULATION HEALTH IS WHERE HEALTHCARE IS MOVING BUT IN THE 1520 01:19:03,376 --> 01:19:09,215 MEANTIME, WE DO NEED TO EXPAND MEDICAID COVERAGE TO COVER 1521 01:19:09,215 --> 01:19:11,217 IDAHOANS WHO ARE NOT COVERED NOW. 1522 01:19:11,217 --> 01:19:15,221 THE WAY WE PAY FOR THEIR HEALTHCARE RIGHT NOW IS THEY GO 1523 01:19:15,221 --> 01:19:20,326 TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND THE COUNTY INDIGENT CARE FUNDS PICK 1524 01:19:20,326 --> 01:19:23,129 UP THE FIRST $11,000 OF THAT BILL. 1525 01:19:23,129 --> 01:19:26,700 IF IT'S MORE, THE CATASTROPHIC FUND PICKS UP THE BALANCE. 1526 01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:30,770 WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING BETWEEN 80 AND $90 MILLION A YEAR TO 1527 01:19:30,770 --> 01:19:32,605 CARE FOR UNINSURED PEOPLE. 1528 01:19:32,605 --> 01:19:36,509 IF WE EXPAND MEDICAID COVERAGE, WE WILL GET BACK SOME OF THE 1529 01:19:36,509 --> 01:19:40,513 FEDERAL INCOME TAX WE PAY INTO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CARE 1530 01:19:40,513 --> 01:19:43,316 FOR UNINSURED PEOPLE WHO WILL THEN BE COVERED BY MEDICAID AND 1531 01:19:43,316 --> 01:19:47,987 THAT WILL FREE UP MOST OF THAT 80 TO $90 MILLION A YEAR THAT WE 1532 01:19:47,987 --> 01:19:49,489 ARE CURRENTLY PAYING -- >> ALL RIGHT. 1533 01:19:49,489 --> 01:19:52,726 >> THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR EDUCATION OR WHATEVER THE HIGHER 1534 01:19:52,726 --> 01:19:53,426 PRIORITIES WOULD BE. 1535 01:19:53,426 --> 01:19:57,497 >> WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR GOVERNOR OTTER TO RESPOND 1536 01:19:57,497 --> 01:19:57,731 BRIEFLY. 1537 01:19:57,731 --> 01:19:59,899 >> WELL, I AGREE WITH JOHN. 1538 01:19:59,899 --> 01:20:05,505 I THINK EVERY PRIVATE SECTOR THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, EVERY 1539 01:20:05,505 --> 01:20:07,907 PRIVATE -- LET'S EXHAUST ALL OF THE POSSIBILITIES. 1540 01:20:07,907 --> 01:20:11,644 IN FACT, I WOULD TELL YOU, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A TOUGH STRUGGLE 1541 01:20:11,644 --> 01:20:16,182 WHEN WE ADOPTED THE INSURANCE EXCHANGE IN IDAHO, ONE OF THE 1542 01:20:16,182 --> 01:20:21,187 FEW STATES THAT DID THAT, I AM QUINCE WITH THE PRODUCTS THAT 1543 01:20:21,187 --> 01:20:24,457 I'VE SEEN BEING RESPONDED TO BY NOT ONLY THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM 1544 01:20:24,457 --> 01:20:27,660 IN THE STATE OF IDAHO, BUT ALSO, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT 1545 01:20:27,660 --> 01:20:31,731 WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A GOVERNOR-RUN INSURANCE EXCHANGE 1546 01:20:31,731 --> 01:20:36,302 AND PROBABLY NOT MEDICAID IN THE STATE OF IDAHO IN THE FUTURE. 1547 01:20:36,302 --> 01:20:37,203 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH GOVERNOR OTTER. 1548 01:20:37,203 --> 01:20:38,571 IT IS TIME FOR CLOSING REMARKS. 1549 01:20:38,571 --> 01:20:42,042 I'M SO SORRY WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 1550 01:20:42,042 --> 01:20:43,743 MR. BALUKOFF, YOUR COMMENTS. 1551 01:20:43,743 --> 01:20:45,311 >> I'M NOT A CAREER POLITICIAN. 1552 01:20:45,311 --> 01:20:49,282 I'VE BEEN A BUSINESSMAN FOR 44 YEARS, A SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEE 1553 01:20:49,282 --> 01:20:52,652 FOR 17 YEARS AND I'VE SERVED ON MANY NON-PROFIT BOARDS. 1554 01:20:52,652 --> 01:20:56,856 I GOT INTO THIS PRICE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN HOW GOVERNOR OTTER'S 1555 01:20:56,856 --> 01:21:00,260 POLICIES HAVE DECIMATED IDAHO'S SCHOOLS AND COMMITTEE. 1556 01:21:00,260 --> 01:21:03,730 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO PITCH OTTER IS NOT THAT OUR KIDS 1557 01:21:03,730 --> 01:21:06,433 GET A GOOD EDUCATION OR THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD JOB. 1558 01:21:06,433 --> 01:21:10,704 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO BUTCH OTTER IS TO GIVE TAX 1559 01:21:10,704 --> 01:21:14,374 BREAKS TO BIG BUSINESS AND FAVORS TO BIG DONORS. 1560 01:21:14,374 --> 01:21:21,081 HIS MANTRA HAS BEEN I RECUSE MYSELF, BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD 1561 01:21:21,081 --> 01:21:26,386 ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF AN ABSENTEE GOVERNOR. 1562 01:21:26,386 --> 01:21:29,022 IS OUR STATE BETTER OFF UNDER GOVERNOR OTTER? 1563 01:21:29,022 --> 01:21:30,724 THE ANSWER IS NO. 1564 01:21:30,724 --> 01:21:34,094 IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'VE LEARNED IN BUSINESS, IT'S THIS. 1565 01:21:34,094 --> 01:21:38,832 THE BEST PREDICTOR OF FUTURE BEHAVIOR IS PAST BEHAVIOR. 1566 01:21:38,832 --> 01:21:40,033 IDAHO DESERVES BETTER. 1567 01:21:40,033 --> 01:21:41,835 I'VE MADE MY VISION CLEAR. 1568 01:21:41,835 --> 01:21:47,040 WE MUST REINVEST IN OUR SCHOOLS, WE MUST CREATE GOOD-PAYING JOBS 1569 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,944 AND WE MUST RESTORE BALANCE, TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST IN STATE 1570 01:21:50,944 --> 01:21:51,277 GOVERNMENT. 1571 01:21:51,277 --> 01:21:54,848 LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IDAHO NOT JUST A GREAT PLACE TO 1572 01:21:54,848 --> 01:21:59,219 LOVE, BUT A GREAT PLACE WHERE IDAHOANS CAN MAKE A LIVING. 1573 01:21:59,219 --> 01:22:01,788 YOUR CHOICE HAS NEVER BEEN MORE CLEAR. 1574 01:22:01,788 --> 01:22:04,891 I'M A.J. BALUKOFF, I'M ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE. 1575 01:22:04,891 --> 01:22:05,792 THANK YOU. 1576 01:22:05,792 --> 01:22:07,427 >> ALL RIGHT. 1577 01:22:07,427 --> 01:22:09,095 THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BUJAK, YOUR CLOSING REMARKS. 1578 01:22:09,095 --> 01:22:12,532 >> I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TALK TO THE VOTERS. 1579 01:22:12,532 --> 01:22:14,601 MAYBE SOME OF YOU VOTERS WHO HAVE GIVEN UP HOPE. 1580 01:22:14,601 --> 01:22:17,704 YOU HAVE VOTED FOR REPUBLICANS, YOU HAVE VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS, 1581 01:22:17,704 --> 01:22:19,906 YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE. 1582 01:22:19,906 --> 01:22:22,375 YOU'VE HEARD THE SAME PROMISES EVERY ELECTION CYCLE. 1583 01:22:22,375 --> 01:22:24,711 I WATCHED SOME OF THE PRIOR DEBATES AND SOME OF THE ISSUES 1584 01:22:24,711 --> 01:22:27,013 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY WERE TALKED ABOUT FOUR 1585 01:22:27,013 --> 01:22:31,117 YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO, CRONYISM, CORRUPTION, WE'VE 1586 01:22:31,117 --> 01:22:32,919 TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING HEALTHCARE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO 1587 01:22:32,919 --> 01:22:36,456 GET MORE MONEY AND AS TIME PASSES AND WE JUMP FROM 1588 01:22:36,456 --> 01:22:39,826 REPUBLICAN TO DEMOCRAT, WE END UP IN THE SAME PLACE SO I 1589 01:22:39,826 --> 01:22:43,196 UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S A LARGE GROUP OF IDAHOANS THAT DON'T 1590 01:22:43,196 --> 01:22:44,464 THINK THEIR VOTE COUNTS. 1591 01:22:44,464 --> 01:22:48,201 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE POLLS, THEY'RE NOT THINKING THEY CAN 1592 01:22:48,201 --> 01:22:49,469 MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE STATE. 1593 01:22:49,469 --> 01:22:52,105 I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT ONE MAN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 1594 01:22:52,105 --> 01:22:55,108 YOUR VOTE DOES COUNT AND IT COUNTS MORE THAN EVER IN THIS 1595 01:22:55,108 --> 01:22:57,377 ELECTION CYCLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A REAL CHOICE. 1596 01:22:57,377 --> 01:23:01,681 A CHOICE THAT DOESN'T BEHOLDEN TO NATIONAL POLITICS, THAT ISN'T 1597 01:23:01,681 --> 01:23:03,416 INTERESTED IN LETTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL 1598 01:23:03,416 --> 01:23:04,984 WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN IDAHO. 1599 01:23:04,984 --> 01:23:10,523 SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PRACTICAL PLAN TO IMPROVE IDAHO USING A 1600 01:23:10,523 --> 01:23:12,258 CONSERVATIVE PLAN THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE SPENDING MORE MONEY. 1601 01:23:12,258 --> 01:23:15,095 THIS IS A TIME WHEN WE CAN MAKE HISTORY AS A STATE. 1602 01:23:15,095 --> 01:23:17,630 I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE IF YOU GO OUT AND FIND A FRIEND AND 1603 01:23:17,630 --> 01:23:19,966 BRING THEM TO THE POLLS, YOU'LL MAKE A STATEMENT. 1604 01:23:19,966 --> 01:23:22,502 IF YOU GO OUT AND FIND TWO FRIENDS AND BRING THEM TO THE 1605 01:23:22,502 --> 01:23:27,073 POLL AND VOTE FOR BUJAK, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE HISTORY. 1606 01:23:27,073 --> 01:23:29,642 AND WITH AN INDEPENDENT GOVERNOR WHO CARES MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE 1607 01:23:29,642 --> 01:23:33,613 THAN SPECIAL INTERESTS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE REAL POSITIVE 1608 01:23:33,613 --> 01:23:36,916 CHANGES AND IN FOUR YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO BE GLAD YOU WENT TO THE 1609 01:23:36,916 --> 01:23:41,087 POLLS AND CHOSE SOMETHING OTHER THAN POLITICS AS USUAL. 1610 01:23:41,087 --> 01:23:43,556 I'M JOHN BUJAK, A LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR AND I'M 1611 01:23:43,556 --> 01:23:46,359 ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE ON NOVEMBER 4th. 1612 01:23:46,359 --> 01:23:49,362 >> GOVERNOR OTTER. 1613 01:23:49,362 --> 01:23:53,933 >> THANK YOU TO THE PANEL AS WELL FOR THOSE PIERCING AND 1614 01:23:53,933 --> 01:23:54,534 REVEALING QUESTIONS. 1615 01:23:54,534 --> 01:23:59,706 I WANT TO THANK THE AUDIENCE, AS WELL. 1616 01:23:59,706 --> 01:24:02,676 AND CERTAINLY IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION AND THE LEAGUE OF 1617 01:24:02,676 --> 01:24:05,845 WOMEN VOTERS FOR CUTTING US YOU HAVE WHAT WE NEEDED TO BE CUT 1618 01:24:05,845 --> 01:24:06,579 OFF. 1619 01:24:06,579 --> 01:24:08,248 IDAHO'S GREATNESS IS BECAUSE OF ITS PEOPLE. 1620 01:24:08,248 --> 01:24:13,253 IT'S BECAUSE OF ITS PEOPLE THAT IT'S ALWAYS STAYED THE COURSE. 1621 01:24:13,253 --> 01:24:17,490 WHEN FOLKS ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T DO 1622 01:24:17,490 --> 01:24:21,594 EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO YET THEY KEEP COMING BACK 1623 01:24:21,594 --> 01:24:25,532 BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE HAS ALSO DONE THE CONSERVATIVE THING. 1624 01:24:25,532 --> 01:24:29,002 THEY'VE RECOGNIZED THE VALUES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO 1625 01:24:29,002 --> 01:24:32,272 AND THAT IS WHAT HAS BROUGHT US OUT OF THIS RECESSION FASTER 1626 01:24:32,272 --> 01:24:35,008 THAN ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE FOLKS HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT IDAHO'S A 1627 01:24:35,008 --> 01:24:36,543 GOOD PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. 1628 01:24:36,543 --> 01:24:38,878 IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY. 1629 01:24:38,878 --> 01:24:42,015 IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO MOVE TO AND IF YOU'RE HERE, IT'S A GOOD 1630 01:24:42,015 --> 01:24:45,385 PLACE TO GROW YOUR COMPANY AND GROW YOUR FAMILY AND GROW YOUR 1631 01:24:45,385 --> 01:24:45,719 INFLUENCE. 1632 01:24:45,719 --> 01:24:48,121 AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE OTHER STATES AND THE THINGS THAT 1633 01:24:48,121 --> 01:24:52,192 THEY HAVE HAD, AND WHAT WE HAD IN IDAHO AS I SAID EARLIER IN 1634 01:24:52,192 --> 01:24:53,727 THE DEBATE, WE HAD THE PEOPLE. 1635 01:24:53,727 --> 01:24:57,831 WE HAD THE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVED IN US BECAUSE WE BELIEVED IN 1636 01:24:57,831 --> 01:24:58,298 THEM. 1637 01:24:58,298 --> 01:25:00,233 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T STRAY FROM OUR VALUES. 1638 01:25:00,233 --> 01:25:01,968 WE DIDN'T STRAY FROM FAMILY. 1639 01:25:01,968 --> 01:25:04,771 WE DIDN'T STRAY FROM KNOWING THAT THE STRENGTH OF OUR 1640 01:25:04,771 --> 01:25:07,040 GOVERNMENT WAS THE STRENGTH IN THE HOME. 1641 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,575 IT WILL CONTINUE THAT WAY. 1642 01:25:08,575 --> 01:25:13,146 AND I'M ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE HUMBLY I'M ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE. 1643 01:25:13,146 --> 01:25:15,615 I'M BUTCH OTTER, I'M YOUR GOVERNOR AND I WOULD APPRECIATE 1644 01:25:15,615 --> 01:25:17,350 YOUR VOTE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. 1645 01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:17,951 THANK YOU. 1646 01:25:17,951 --> 01:25:18,718 >> ALL RIGHT. 1647 01:25:18,718 --> 01:25:21,254 THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE CANDIDATES FOR THE TIME TONIGHT. 1648 01:25:21,254 --> 01:25:23,423 THANKS TO THE REPORTERS FOR THE PIERCING AND REVEALING QUESTIONS 1649 01:25:23,423 --> 01:25:25,525 AND THE VIEWERS AT HOME FOR WATCHING. 1650 01:25:25,525 --> 01:25:30,997 YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THOSE CANDIDATES ON OUR WEBSITE, 1651 01:25:30,997 --> 01:25:31,631 IDAHOPTV.ORG/ELECTION/2014. 1652 01:25:31,631 --> 01:25:35,802 AND REMEMBER TO STAY TUNED FOR THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DEBATE 1653 01:25:35,802 --> 01:25:36,269 UP NEXT. 1654 01:25:36,269 --> 01:25:43,543 THANKS SO MUCH AND WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS. 1655 01:25:43,543 --> 01:26:10,303 * * 1656 01:26:10,303 --> 01:26:15,141 >>> THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY BOISE STATE 1657 01:26:15,141 --> 01:26:17,310 UNIVERSITY'S SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SERVICE, DEVOTED TO BUILDING 1658 01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:21,314 FUTURE CIVIC AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGH 1659 01:26:21,314 --> 01:26:28,788 INTERDISCIPLINARY PROBLEM SOLVING, REAL WORLD RESEARCH AND 1660 01:26:28,788 --> 01:26:30,256 POLICY STUDIES. 1661 01:26:30,256 --> 01:26:31,524 AND THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE YOU CAN ONLY GET HERE AT THE STATE 1662 01:26:31,524 --> 01:26:31,791 CAPITOL. 1663 01:26:31,791 --> 01:26:33,059 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU BY CONTRIBUTIONS 1664 01:26:33,059 --> 01:26:33,993 TO THE IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 1665 01:26:33,993 --> 01:26:35,061 THANK YOU.