WEBVTT 00:06.639 --> 00:08.008 >> WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES, A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES ON THE 00:08.008 --> 00:10.010 PRIMARY BALLOT FOR THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT. 00:10.010 --> 00:13.446 THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE 00:13.446 --> 00:16.516 IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF IDAHO, BOISE 00:16.516 --> 00:19.519 STATE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SERVICE, AND IDAHO PUBLIC 00:19.519 --> 00:20.453 TELEVISION. 00:20.453 --> 00:25.558 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE BROUGHT TO YOU BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE 00:25.558 --> 00:30.030 IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 00:30.030 --> 00:33.366 >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DECADES, LIVE FROM THE 00:33.366 --> 00:35.468 IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION STUDIOS IN BOISE. 00:35.468 --> 00:38.538 THIS IS OUR FIRST AND ONLY DEBATE OF THE PRIMARY SEASON BUT 00:38.538 --> 00:39.839 IT'S A GOOD ONE. 00:39.839 --> 00:44.644 AND IT'S THE ONLY TELEVISED DEBATE WITH ALL FOUR CANDIDATES 00:44.644 --> 00:48.848 VYING TO BE THE STATE'S NEXT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. 00:48.848 --> 00:52.652 A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN IDAHO IS ONE OF FIVE PEOPLE WHO WORK 00:52.652 --> 00:56.956 AS THE FINAL LEGAL AUTHORITY IN THE STATE. 00:56.956 --> 00:59.893 THEY WORK AS ADMINISTRATORS OF THE ENTIRE COURT SYSTEM. 00:59.893 --> 01:05.098 THEIR DUTIES ARE PRIMARILY THE EXECUTION OF FAIR AND IMPARTIAL 01:05.098 --> 01:10.337 DELIBERATIONS ON SOME OF THE MOST DIFFICULT QUESTIONS IN THE 01:10.337 --> 01:10.904 STATE. 01:10.904 --> 01:13.973 PROTECT EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND PROTECTING THE 01:13.973 --> 01:16.710 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO. 01:16.710 --> 01:20.547 ROBYN BRODY HAS PRACTICED LANE THE MANUALIC VALLEY FOR 20 01:20.547 --> 01:21.014 YEARS. 01:21.014 --> 01:25.085 SHE HAS SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE 5th DISTRICT BAR 01:25.085 --> 01:28.088 ASSOCIATION AND THE IDAHO TRIAL LAWYERS ASSOCIATION. 01:28.088 --> 01:31.458 SHE GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER COLLEGE OF 01:31.458 --> 01:38.932 LAW AND IS A SOLE PRACTITIONER AT DENVER LAW OFFICE. 01:38.932 --> 01:42.535 CLIVE STRONG IS CURRENTLY THE CHIEF OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES 01:42.535 --> 01:42.936 DIVISION. 01:42.936 --> 01:46.306 HE HAS ARGUED TWO CASES BEFORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT 01:46.306 --> 01:49.943 AND NUMEROUS CASES BEFORE THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT E. GRADUATED 01:49.943 --> 01:53.680 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO LAW SCHOOL. 01:53.680 --> 01:56.750 CURT McKENZIE GRADUATE GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY LAW 01:56.750 --> 01:57.050 CENTER. 01:57.050 --> 02:00.487 HE WORKED ONE YEAR IN THE ADA COUNTY ARE PROSECUTING 02:00.487 --> 02:05.325 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SIX YEARS IN CIVIL LITIGATION AT STOEL 02:05.325 --> 02:09.329 RIVES BEFORE OPENING THE McKENZIE LAW OFFICE. 02:09.329 --> 02:14.100 HE WAS ON THE PUBLIC REFORM INTERIM COMMITTEE AND WAS 02:14.100 --> 02:17.337 PRESIDENT OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ECONOMIC REGION. 02:17.337 --> 02:21.541 HE SERVED AS DISTRICT JUDGE AND ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT JUDGE 02:21.541 --> 02:24.244 AND NOW SERVES ON THE IDAHO COURT OF APPEALS. 02:24.244 --> 02:29.082 HE WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY COMMITMENT AND 02:29.082 --> 02:33.086 COCHAIR OF THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE E. GRADUATED FROM THE 02:33.086 --> 02:35.655 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HASTINGS LAW SCHOOL AND HAS 02:35.655 --> 02:39.759 SERVED IN THE JUDICIAL BRAD CHILDRESS BRANCH SINCE 1983. 02:39.759 --> 02:43.196 ALSO WITH US IS A PANEL OF REPORTERS FROM THE IDAHO PRESS 02:43.196 --> 02:44.030 CLUB. 02:44.030 --> 02:46.833 THESE THREE DON'T NEED NEARLY AS LONG AN INTRODUCTION. 02:46.833 --> 02:50.670 BETSY RUSSELL OF THE "SPOKESMAN-REVIEW." 02:50.670 --> 02:54.140 BECKY BOON. 02:54.140 --> 02:56.276 "POST REGISTER." 02:56.276 --> 02:59.312 >> I'M MOTH MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE AND WILL DO MY BEST TO 02:59.312 --> 03:05.418 MAKE SURE ALL CANDIDATE GET EQUAL TIME AND STAY ON POINT. 03:05.418 --> 03:13.059 TO REMIND DOWNSIDE HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING IS THE 03:13.059 --> 03:14.994 REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. 03:14.994 --> 03:18.698 WE WILL BE MORE FOCUSED ON AN INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION THAT 03:18.698 --> 03:22.335 HELPS YOU, THE VOTER, CAST A MORE INFORMED BALLOT. 03:22.335 --> 03:26.906 EACH CANDIDATE WILL BE GIVING TWO ANOINTS OPENING COMMENT AND 03:26.906 --> 03:28.541 ONE MINUTE FOR CLOSE. 03:28.541 --> 03:34.247 WE DREW STRAWS AND ROBYN BRODY, THE OPENING HONOR GOES TO YOU. 03:34.247 --> 03:36.750 >> THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES OUR RIGHTS ON PAPER. 03:36.750 --> 03:39.719 WITHOUT A LEGAL SYSTEM TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THOSE RIGHTS, 03:39.719 --> 03:41.254 THE RIGHTS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING. 03:41.254 --> 03:43.356 I'M RUNNING FOR THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT BECAUSE I BELIEVE 03:43.356 --> 03:48.828 THAT OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE SUPPOSED TO SERVE AND PROTECT 03:48.828 --> 03:49.629 PEOPLE. 03:49.629 --> 03:50.563 ALL PEOPLE. 03:50.563 --> 03:54.367 WE NEED A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE WHO NOT ONLY HAS GREAT KNOWLEDGE 03:54.367 --> 03:58.304 AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, BUT WHO'S 03:58.304 --> 04:00.874 ALSO CONNECTED TO THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THE DECISIONS THAT 04:00.874 --> 04:01.675 ARE MADE. 04:01.675 --> 04:05.679 I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER DEDICATED TO PROVIDING PEOPLE 04:05.679 --> 04:08.314 WITH ACCESS TO THE LAW. 04:08.314 --> 04:12.218 I REPRESENT THE WIDOW WHO COMES IN NEEDING HELP GETTING HER 04:12.218 --> 04:18.258 MARRIAGE LICENSE FROM SALT LAKE CITY, FARMERS, RANCHERS, LOCAL 04:18.258 --> 04:20.894 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL. 04:20.894 --> 04:23.096 THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT. 04:23.096 --> 04:26.332 I HAVE NEVER BEEN AFRAID TO CLIMB IN THE FOXHOLE WITH THE 04:26.332 --> 04:29.803 PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, AND I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT 04:29.803 --> 04:31.004 ON MAY 17th. 04:31.004 --> 04:32.072 >> ALL RIGHT. 04:32.072 --> 04:32.972 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 04:32.972 --> 04:37.277 NEXT OPENING COMMENT COMES FROM CLIVE STRONG. 04:37.277 --> 04:39.646 >> I WANTED TO THANK PUBLIC TELEVISION FOR GIVING ME THIS 04:39.646 --> 04:42.649 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO IDAHO VOTERS. 04:42.649 --> 04:46.920 SINCE ATTORNEY GENERAL JIM JONES HIRED ME IN 1983 I'VE HAD THE 04:46.920 --> 04:50.824 OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO FOR THE LAST 33 YEARS. 04:50.824 --> 04:53.393 MY DUTY IS TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND ADVANCE THE 04:53.393 --> 04:55.662 RULE OF LAW WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF ANY POLITICAL 04:55.662 --> 04:56.830 OR SPECIAL INTERESTS. 04:56.830 --> 05:02.836 I HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL FOR 05:02.836 --> 05:10.510 RESOLVING COMPLEX, DECADES OLD CONFLICTS ON BEHALF OF IDAHOANS. 05:10.510 --> 05:14.514 I BROUGHT A RESOLUTION TO A CONFLICT THAT EXTENDED BACK TO 05:14.514 --> 05:18.318 THE 1970s OVER A WATER ISSUE IN THE SNAKE RIVER BASIN. 05:18.318 --> 05:23.256 I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAKE RIVER BASIN AJUDICATION, 05:23.256 --> 05:27.160 ADJUDICATING 158,000 WATER RIGHTS, THE LARGEST CIVIL RIGHTS 05:27.160 --> 05:30.163 CASE EVER EXECUTED IN THE STATE OF IDAHO. 05:30.163 --> 05:35.068 I HAVE REPRESENTED THE STATE OF IDAHO ON EVERY MAJOR NATURAL 05:35.068 --> 05:37.270 RESOURCE ISSUE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. 05:37.270 --> 05:40.740 I INCREASED REVENUE TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS BY ENFORCING THE 05:40.740 --> 05:44.978 CONSTITUTION AND DRAFTING LEGISLATION TO MODERNIZE 05:44.978 --> 05:45.512 INVESTING. 05:45.512 --> 05:49.449 I HAVE THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE OF A BROAD RANGE OF PEOPLE AND I 05:49.449 --> 05:53.720 HAVE A -- I AM A PROVEN LEADER AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY 05:53.720 --> 05:55.655 TO CONTINUE TO SERVE. 05:55.655 --> 05:57.657 >> YOUR TIME IS UP. 05:57.657 --> 06:00.126 SENATOR MCKENZIE, YOU'RE UP NEXT. 06:00.126 --> 06:03.229 >> I'M CURT McKENZIE, MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW ME FROM MY SERVICE 06:03.229 --> 06:05.465 IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE. 06:05.465 --> 06:11.338 FEWER KNOW THAT I'M THE THIRD GENERATION IN MY FAMILY TO GO TO 06:11.338 --> 06:12.505 NNU IN NAMPA. 06:12.505 --> 06:19.713 AFTER I GRADUATED FROM NNU I WAS OFFERED A FULL SCHOLARSHIP TO 06:19.713 --> 06:21.047 GEORGETOWN'S UNIVERSITY LAW CENTER. 06:21.047 --> 06:23.783 I GRADUATED IN THE TOP 10% OF MY CLASS. 06:23.783 --> 06:26.419 I WAS ADMITTED TO THE BARS OF MARYLAND, WASHINGTON, D.C., AND 06:26.419 --> 06:27.354 THEN IDAHO. 06:27.354 --> 06:30.423 I'VE HAD A VERY DIVERSE LEGAL PRACTICE. 06:30.423 --> 06:34.060 I'VE WORKED WITH LARGE LAW FIRMS, I'VE WORKED WITH THE 06:34.060 --> 06:35.628 STATE AS A PROSECUTOR. 06:35.628 --> 06:42.235 I'VE TAKEN OVER 20 JURY TRIALS TO VERDICT AND I'VE HAD MY OWN 06:42.235 --> 06:42.902 PRACTICE. 06:42.902 --> 06:45.171 IN ADDITION, I'VE HAD A LONG RECORD OF PUBLIC SERVICE. 06:45.171 --> 06:51.344 I BRING A UNIQUE BACKGROUND FOR THE CANDIDATES FOR THE COURT. 06:51.344 --> 06:54.547 I'VE GOT A DIVERSE LEGAL PRACTICE AND A LONG RECORD OF 06:54.547 --> 06:55.915 PUBLIC SERVICE. 06:55.915 --> 06:56.916 THANK YOU. 06:56.916 --> 07:00.754 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ, THE NEXT OPENING COMMENT FRIDAYS YOU. 07:00.754 --> 07:03.556 >> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU THOSE IN THE TV AUDIENCE THAT 07:03.556 --> 07:06.860 HAVE WELCOMED US INTO YOUR ROOM, INTO YOUR HOME. 07:06.860 --> 07:11.398 I AM THE SENIOR JUDGE OF THE COURT OF APPEALS WITH 14 YEARS 07:11.398 --> 07:14.934 OF APPELLATE JUDGE EXPERIENCE. 07:14.934 --> 07:18.972 I SOMETIMES OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT I WAS A LAWYER ONCE BEFORE, 07:18.972 --> 07:19.406 TOO. 07:19.406 --> 07:24.611 AS A PUBLIC INTEREST LAWYER WORKING ALSO FOR A PRIVATE FIRM, 07:24.611 --> 07:27.047 AND EVENTUALLY OPERATING A SOLO PRACTICE. 07:27.047 --> 07:31.217 I APPEARED IN OUR STATE TRIAL COURTS AND FEDERAL DISTRICT 07:31.217 --> 07:34.354 COURTS BEFORE THE 9TH CIRCUIT AND ALSO BEFORE THE BOARD OF 07:34.354 --> 07:36.256 IMMIGRATION APPEALS. 07:36.256 --> 07:38.591 AISLE I BELIEVE I HAVE ACCUMULATED THE EXPERIENCE TO BE 07:38.591 --> 07:46.232 ABLE TO MAKE THE TRANSITION FROM THE FLOOR -- THE NURSE FLOOR AT 07:46.232 --> 07:49.736 THE COURT OF APPEALS AND READY TO TAKE THE POSITION OF JUSTICE 07:49.736 --> 07:50.370 WITH THE SUPREME COURT. 07:50.370 --> 07:52.072 THANK YOU. 07:52.072 --> 07:53.540 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 07:53.540 --> 07:57.010 THE FIRST QUESTION COMES FROM BETSY RUSSELL FOR SENATOR 07:57.010 --> 07:57.644 MCKENZIE. 07:57.644 --> 08:01.014 >> THE IDAHO CODE OF JUDICIAL CONDUCT PLACES RESTRICTIONS ON 08:01.014 --> 08:03.850 HOW CANDIDATES FOR JUDGE CAN CAMPAIGN. 08:03.850 --> 08:07.120 MY QUESTION IS ABOUT HOW YOU INTERPRET THESE RESTRICTIONS, 08:07.120 --> 08:10.223 AND HOW YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS CAMPAIGN. 08:10.223 --> 08:14.227 SENATOR MCKENZIE, YOU HAVE CAMPAIGNED ALMOST ENTIRELY TO 08:14.227 --> 08:18.498 REPUBLICAN VOTERS, APPEARING AT IDAHO REPUBLICAN PARTY LINCOLN 08:18.498 --> 08:22.836 DAY EVENTS AND SEEKING OUT ENDORSEMENTS FROM YOUR FELLOW 08:22.836 --> 08:24.137 REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS. 08:24.137 --> 08:26.973 YOU'VE CHARACTERIZED YOUR LINCOLN DAY APPEARANCES AS 08:26.973 --> 08:28.308 MEETING WITH VOTERS. 08:28.308 --> 08:31.878 WHY ARE YOU APPEALING ONLY TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS WHEN YOU'RE 08:31.878 --> 08:37.517 RUNNING FOR A NONPARTISAN POSITION ON THE IDAHO SUPREME 08:37.517 --> 08:38.351 COURT? 08:38.351 --> 08:42.522 >> I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT TOMORROW NIGHT WHEN I'M MEETING WITH THE 08:42.522 --> 08:48.094 BONNEVILLE DEMONSTRATE CRATS. 08:48.094 --> 08:51.097 I INCLUDE NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION, THE PROFESSIONAL 08:51.097 --> 08:54.634 FIREFIGHTERS OF IDAHO HAVE SUPPORTED ME, NOT ONLY FOR MY 08:54.634 --> 08:59.639 WORK IN GETTING CERTAIN ON-THE-JOB CANCERS COVERED BUT 08:59.639 --> 09:03.476 ALSO PROTECTING THEIR RIGHTS FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. 09:03.476 --> 09:06.046 THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST 09:06.046 --> 09:10.116 ORGANIZATION OF POLICE MEMBERS IN THE STATE ENDORSED ME FOR MY 09:10.116 --> 09:13.753 WORK PROTECTING OUR FRONT LINE OFFICERS. 09:13.753 --> 09:14.954 FARM BUREAU, AS WELL. 09:14.954 --> 09:19.059 AND SO THESE ARE NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE 09:19.059 --> 09:22.962 SUPPORTED OUR CANDIDACY AND I APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT. 09:22.962 --> 09:26.599 >> THE NEXT QUESTION 1ST ROBYN BRODY. 09:26.599 --> 09:30.337 >> MRS. BRODY, YOU'VE ALSO ACCEPTED HIGH PROFILE 09:30.337 --> 09:35.508 ENDORSEMENTS INCLUDING FROM TWIN FALLS COUNTY PROSECUTOR GRANT 09:35.508 --> 09:39.512 LOE, AN ACTIVE IDAHO REPUBLICAN PARTY OFFICIAL. 09:39.512 --> 09:44.684 HOW ARE YOU BALANCING THE NEED FOR PARTISANSHIP? 09:44.684 --> 09:46.052 >> YOU BET. 09:46.052 --> 09:49.622 BETSY, I'VE LOOKED ALL OVER THE STATE FOR ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT 09:49.622 --> 09:52.625 ORGANIZATIONS AND PEOPLE. 09:52.625 --> 09:57.864 GRANT IS A LONG TERM FRIEND AND A COLLEAGUE WITH WHOM I'VE HAD A 09:57.864 --> 09:59.599 TERRIFIC RELATIONSHIP OVER THE YEARS. 09:59.599 --> 10:02.369 BEYOND THAT, I'VE BEEN TO VARIOUS PARTS OF THE STATE, 10:02.369 --> 10:05.372 ADDRESSED DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENTS. 10:05.372 --> 10:07.974 BASICALLY IN THIS KIND OF RACE I'LL TALK TO ANYONE WHO WILL 10:07.974 --> 10:10.443 GIVE ME A MINUTE AND AN EAR TO LISTEN. 10:10.443 --> 10:13.613 >> THE NEXT QUESTION 1ST CLIVE STRONG. 10:13.613 --> 10:17.450 >> MR. STRONG, WHILE SENATOR MCKENZIE HAS DRAWN SOME 10:17.450 --> 10:19.652 TERRORISM SOLICITING ENDORSEMENTS FROM REPUBLICANS 10:19.652 --> 10:23.256 AND INTEREST GROUPS YOU'VE ALSO AMASSED HIGH PROFILE 10:23.256 --> 10:28.194 ENDORSEMENTS INCLUDING ONE FROM THE CURRENT SPEAKER OF THE 10:28.194 --> 10:28.928 HOUSE. 10:28.928 --> 10:30.296 WHY YOU HAVE DO THIS? 10:30.296 --> 10:33.833 COULD IT LEAD TO ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IF YOU'RE ELECTED TO 10:33.833 --> 10:34.834 THE COURT? 10:34.834 --> 10:37.203 >> IT WAS A REFLECTION ON MY WORK. 10:37.203 --> 10:41.274 WHEN I JOINED THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL I INTENTIONALLY 10:41.274 --> 10:45.478 ACCEPTED A POLICY OF NOT BEING A PARTISAN POLITICIAN. 10:45.478 --> 10:48.214 I'VE BEEN NONPARTISAN THROUGHOUT THE 33 YEARS. 10:48.214 --> 10:51.317 I'VE DONE SO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN ADVISING THE 10:51.317 --> 10:54.688 LEGISLATURE, BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS CAN FEEL CONFIDENT 10:54.688 --> 10:57.490 THAT I'M GIVING THEM IMPARTIAL ADVICE. 10:57.490 --> 11:01.594 THE PURPOSE OF MY ENDORSEMENTS WAS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT 11:01.594 --> 11:05.699 THROUGHOUT MY EXPERIENCE I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN IN A 11:05.699 --> 11:10.603 NONPARTISAN POSITION AND GAIN THE TRUST OF MOST PEOPLE ON BOTH 11:10.603 --> 11:12.172 SIDES OF THE AISLE. 11:12.172 --> 11:15.275 >> THE NEXT QUESTION GOES TO YOU, SO YOU CAN COMMENT IN YOUR 11:15.275 --> 11:17.877 ANSWER IF YOU'D LIKE. 11:17.877 --> 11:22.282 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN PUBLIC ABOUT PROMOTING 11:22.282 --> 11:22.882 ENDORSEMENTS. 11:22.882 --> 11:23.283 WHY NOT? 11:23.283 --> 11:26.920 AND HOW SHOULD VOTERS JUDGE WHETHER YOU ARE THE CANDIDATE 11:26.920 --> 11:27.821 THEY SHOULD CHOOSE? 11:27.821 --> 11:33.293 >> I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL SO WE DON'T RUN AFOUL OF THE 11:33.293 --> 11:39.132 JUDICIAL CANO NS OF ETHICS THAT PROVIDE FOR OUR RACES TO BE 11:39.132 --> 11:39.666 NONPARTISAN. 11:39.666 --> 11:43.203 I THINK WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS WHEN BOTH CANDIDATES AND THE 11:43.203 --> 11:47.140 MEDIA BEGIN TO PORTRAY US AS POLITICIANS. 11:47.140 --> 11:49.376 WE ARE NOT RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE. 11:49.376 --> 11:53.580 WE ARE RUNNING FOR AN ELECTED JUDICIAL OFFICE. 11:53.580 --> 11:57.417 IN WILLIAMS VERSUS FLORIDA BAR, THE U.S. SUPREME COURT MADE THE 11:57.417 --> 12:01.521 STATEMENT, JUDGES ARE NOT POLITICIANS, EVEN WHEN THEY COME 12:01.521 --> 12:05.058 TO THE BENCH BY THE WEIGH OF THE BALLOT. 12:05.058 --> 12:09.262 BUT I'M AFRAID IT IS INGRAINED IN OUR CULTURE, EVEN THOUGH 12:09.262 --> 12:13.266 WE'RE JUDGES AND RUNNING FOR A JUDGE POSITION, WE'RE TREATED AS 12:13.266 --> 12:17.537 POLITICIANS AND WE CONTRIBUTED TO THAT PROBLEM. 12:17.537 --> 12:21.274 MY APPROACH HAS BEEN NOT SEEK OUT ENDORSEMENTS WITH THE 12:21.274 --> 12:24.878 KNOWLEDGE THAT AFTER THIS IS DONE, I'M GOING TO BE A JUDGE 12:24.878 --> 12:29.282 EITHER WAY. 12:29.282 --> 12:32.519 >> YOU HAD A COMMENT, ROBYN BRODY? 12:32.519 --> 12:36.356 >> I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WE POTENTIALLY RUN INTO IN THE 12:36.356 --> 12:39.559 JUDICIARY IS THAT CAREFUL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE 12:39.559 --> 12:40.727 JUDICIARY AND THE LEGISLATURE. 12:40.727 --> 12:44.464 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STAND ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS WITH THE 12:44.464 --> 12:47.100 LEGISLATURE, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE SENDING THE RIGHT MESSAGES 12:47.100 --> 12:51.571 TO THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, THAT THERE'S A CLEAR 12:51.571 --> 12:55.642 DIVISION BETWEEN THE JUDICIARY AND THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. 12:55.642 --> 13:00.246 WE'VE GOT TO AS A JUDICIARY BE WILLING TO STAND UP AT TIMES, TO 13:00.246 --> 13:03.616 FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS IN THE STATE OF IDAHO, WHEN THE 13:03.616 --> 13:08.154 LEGISLATIVE POWERS HAVE OVERSTEPPED THOSE BOUNDARIES. 13:08.154 --> 13:11.358 >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOND THAT, CLIVE STRONG? 13:11.358 --> 13:12.325 >> YES, I WOULD. 13:12.325 --> 13:15.795 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WE HAVE THREE BRANCHES 13:15.795 --> 13:20.000 OF GOVERNMENT AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH THEM ALL. 13:20.000 --> 13:24.004 MY CAREER HAS BEEN TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THOSE 13:24.004 --> 13:26.506 THREE BRANCHES OF GROUNDWATER TO THE WORK TOGETHER. 13:26.506 --> 13:29.642 YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE PARTISAN TO THAT PARTICULAR 13:29.642 --> 13:30.810 BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT WHEN. 13:30.810 --> 13:34.881 NECESSARY, I'VE TAKEN THE ACTION TO BRING TO THE LEGISLATURE'S 13:34.881 --> 13:39.185 ATTENTION VIOLATIONS OF SOMEPLACE OF POWERS, THE WAS 13:39.185 --> 13:42.822 DONE VOUS [INDISCERNIBLE] CASE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. 13:42.822 --> 13:45.258 >> SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT? 13:45.258 --> 13:48.528 >> I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT IN THE ROLE OF A JUDGE 13:48.528 --> 13:53.767 TO APPLY THE CONSTITUTION AS IT'S WRITTEN, AND APPLY THAT TO 13:53.767 --> 13:55.135 LAWS THAT COME BEFORE IT. 13:55.135 --> 14:02.409 I'VE TRIED TO DO THAT AS A LEGISLATOR WHEN WE WERE BROUGHT 14:02.409 --> 14:06.046 LAWS THAT APPEARED TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO ME. 14:06.046 --> 14:15.221 PROBABLY THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE RECENTLY WAS CALLED THE EGG 14:15.221 --> 14:15.689 BILL. 14:15.689 --> 14:18.091 IT WAS FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN THE FEDERAL COURTS. 14:18.091 --> 14:23.329 SO I THINK THAT MINDSET WOULD SERVE US WELL ON THE BENCH, AS 14:23.329 --> 14:24.531 WELL. 14:24.531 --> 14:30.804 >> A FINAL COMMENT, THAT IS THAT JUDICIAL ETHICS SPEAKS TO NOT 14:30.804 --> 14:34.341 ONLY CREATING CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT ALSO THE 14:34.341 --> 14:36.076 PERCEPTION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 14:36.076 --> 14:38.078 THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. 14:38.078 --> 14:42.015 >> NETWORKS I REBECCA BOONE FOR JUDGE GUTIERREZ. 14:42.015 --> 14:46.820 >> I'D LIKE TO KNOW YOUR STANCE ON HOW TO APPROACH THE BALANCE 14:46.820 --> 14:48.888 OF POWERS WITH THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES. 14:48.888 --> 14:52.659 FOR INSTANCE, SHOULD COURTS BE ABLE TO STRIKE ON STATUTES THEY 14:52.659 --> 14:54.361 STILL JEOPARDIZE THE BALANCE OF POWER? 14:54.361 --> 15:00.033 OR IS IT BEST LEFT AS A SELF-EQUALIZING BRANCH OF 15:00.033 --> 15:01.968 GOVERNMENT, THAT EVERYBODY JUST -- 15:01.968 --> 15:05.238 >> WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE SEPARATION OF POWERS DICTATES 15:05.238 --> 15:09.409 WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ACT IN WHAT FASHION. 15:09.409 --> 15:13.046 IN TERMS OF THE COURT'S ROLL AS IT RELATES TO THE EXECUTIVE AND 15:13.046 --> 15:16.850 LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, IF THERE ARE STATUTES OR ACTS WHICH ARE 15:16.850 --> 15:21.054 UNCONSTITUTIONAL AT THAT TIME THE COURT THEN CAN STEP IN. 15:21.054 --> 15:25.725 >> AS A FOLLOW-UP, HOW MUCH AUTONOMY SHOULD JUDGES HAVE WHEN 15:25.725 --> 15:29.062 IT COMES TO THAT SORT OF DECISION-MAKING? 15:29.062 --> 15:33.366 SHOULD JUDGES EVER TAKE POLICY GOALS, IDEALS OR PUBLIC OPINION 15:33.366 --> 15:35.802 INTO ACCOUNT WHEN MAKING A RULING? 15:35.802 --> 15:36.536 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. 15:36.536 --> 15:41.441 THE JUDGE'S AUTO ROLE IS TO ONLY CONSIDERATE LAW AND APPLY THAT 15:41.441 --> 15:43.643 LAW TO THE SPECIFIC FACTS OF THE CASE. 15:43.643 --> 15:47.547 >> I'D LIKE TO YOU HAVE ANSWER THE SAME QUESTION, MRS. BRODY. 15:47.547 --> 15:51.284 HOW MUCH AUTONOMY DO YOU FEEL THAT JUDGES SHOULD HAVE AND HOW 15:51.284 --> 15:53.720 DO YOU PROTECT THE BALANCE OF POWER? 15:53.720 --> 15:57.857 >> I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO 15:57.857 --> 16:01.027 KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY. 16:01.027 --> 16:04.664 I AGREE THAT IN A SMALL STATE LIKE IDAHO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT 16:04.664 --> 16:09.669 OUR JUDICIARY AND LEGISLATURE AT TIMES WORK TOGETHER ON ISSUES 16:09.669 --> 16:12.138 RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. 16:12.138 --> 16:14.874 AND HOW WE ADMINISTER IT IN IDAHO. 16:14.874 --> 16:17.610 BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS WHEN REVIEWING 16:17.610 --> 16:20.347 LEGISLATION, WHEN REVIEWING ISSUES ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, 16:20.347 --> 16:23.783 I THINK THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO DESERVE TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE 16:23.783 --> 16:28.722 AN INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY WHO ISN'T SUBJECT TO THE WHIMS OR 16:28.722 --> 16:33.493 THE TIDE OF PUBLIC OPINION, OR POLITICAL INFLUENCE. 16:33.493 --> 16:37.797 WE HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE AND FIERCELY INDEPENDENT BRANCH IN 16:37.797 --> 16:40.967 ORDER TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO. 16:40.967 --> 16:44.871 >> MR. STRONG, ON THE SAME TOPIC, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU 16:44.871 --> 16:49.976 THINK ABOUT THE BALANCE OF POWERS AND JUDICIAL AUTONOMY, 16:49.976 --> 16:54.080 AND WHETHER POLICY GOALS AND IDEALS SHOULD EVER BE TAKEN INTO 16:54.080 --> 16:54.981 ACCOUNT. 16:54.981 --> 16:58.485 SPECIFICALLY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN 16:58.485 --> 17:03.289 INVOLVED IN SO VERY MANY NATURAL RESOURCE CASES AS A LITIGATOR. 17:03.289 --> 17:07.327 WILL THAT IMPACT OR AFFECT THE WAY YOU MAKE RULINGS SHOULD YOU 17:07.327 --> 17:10.663 BE ELECTED TO THE SUPREME COURT ON THOSE ISSUES? 17:10.663 --> 17:13.833 >> I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE ABOUT SEPARATION OF POWERS. 17:13.833 --> 17:18.505 THAT'S AN AREA IN WHICH I HAVE PRACTICED EXTENSIVELY. 17:18.505 --> 17:25.045 THERE IS NO ROLE FOR THE JUDICIARY TO INJECT ITS OWN 17:25.045 --> 17:26.613 POWELL INTO THE OUTCOME. 17:26.613 --> 17:29.983 THE ROLE IS TO LOOK TO THE AUTHORITIES GIVEN TO THE 17:29.983 --> 17:31.151 BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. 17:31.151 --> 17:35.689 TO THE EXTENT THAT A BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT STEPS OVER THOSE 17:35.689 --> 17:38.525 BOUNDARIES IT'S FOR THE JUDICIARY TO CALL BALLS AND 17:38.525 --> 17:39.426 STRIKES. 17:39.426 --> 17:46.533 WASILLA THE BECAUSE DENY VERSUS LAND BOARD CASE, WE HAD TO SUE 17:46.533 --> 17:49.602 THE LEGISLATURE AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN DEFENDING AGAINST 17:49.602 --> 17:50.704 THAT ENCROACHMENT. 17:50.704 --> 17:55.642 AND THEN IN THE SNAKE RIVER BASIN AJUDICATION, WE HAD AN 17:55.642 --> 17:59.212 ISSUE WITH THE RESPECTIVE ROLES THAT I HAD TO LITIGATION GATE. 17:59.212 --> 18:01.848 AS FAR AS MY BACKGROUND IN NATURAL RESOURCES, THAT SHOULD 18:01.848 --> 18:05.585 NOT HAVE ANY INFLUENCE IN ANY OF THE OUTCOMES. 18:05.585 --> 18:10.390 I WILL AS A JUDGE LOOK TO THE RULE OF LAW AS WRITTEN. 18:10.390 --> 18:16.663 >> SENATOR, I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU SPEAK ON THE SAME TOPIC, 18:16.663 --> 18:21.234 PARTICULARLY AS A LAWMAKER YOU HAVE OCCASIONALLY VOTED IN FAVOR 18:21.234 --> 18:26.606 OF PROPOSED LEGISLATION AFTER THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN ADVISED 18:26.606 --> 18:30.243 IT WOULD OVERSTEP SOME CONSTITUTIONAL BOUNDARIES. 18:30.243 --> 18:33.513 HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT AS A JUDGE? 18:33.513 --> 18:37.217 >> I THINK THAT GETS TO A VERY FUNDAMENTAL PHILOSOPHY OF HOW A 18:37.217 --> 18:40.587 JUSTICE INTERPRETS THE CONSTITUTION. 18:40.587 --> 18:48.995 IN ONE CAMP IS THAT A MAJORITY WILL ESTABLISHES WHAT THE RIGHTS 18:48.995 --> 18:50.163 ARE FROM THE GOVERNMENT. 18:50.163 --> 18:53.900 SO THAT WE FORM THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MAJORITY DETERMINES WHAT 18:53.900 --> 18:55.068 THE RIGHTS ARE. 18:55.068 --> 18:59.205 I THINK THIS APPROACH LEADS TO WHAT WE'LL CALL A LIVING 18:59.205 --> 19:04.444 DOCUMENT OF CONSTITUTION, WHERE THE PREVAILING MAJORITY WILL 19:04.444 --> 19:06.946 DETERMINE WHAT THOSE RIGHTS ARE. 19:06.946 --> 19:13.286 AND THE CONTRARY CAMP IS THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN 19:13.286 --> 19:16.690 INALIENABLE RIGHTS THAT EXIST SEPARATE AND OUTSIDE THE 19:16.690 --> 19:17.323 GOVERNMENT. 19:17.323 --> 19:20.593 AND THAT THOSE CAN'T BE TAKEN AWAY AND THOSE ARE REFLECTED IN 19:20.593 --> 19:21.928 THE CONSTITUTION. 19:21.928 --> 19:26.933 AND SO IF THERE ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL STATUTES, THEN 19:26.933 --> 19:31.338 IT'S THE ROLE OF THE COURTS TO STRIKE THAT DOWN. 19:31.338 --> 19:37.243 I'VE TRIED TO PRACTICE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY AS A LEGISLATOR. 19:37.243 --> 19:40.947 WE GET ADVICE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BILLS ALL THE TIME. 19:40.947 --> 19:44.417 WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION YES OR NO. 19:44.417 --> 19:52.058 I'VE TRIED TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF SUPPORTING ONLY THINGS THAT ARE 19:52.058 --> 19:54.361 WITHIN THE CONSTITUTIONAL BOUNDS. 19:54.361 --> 19:57.097 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ, I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR YOU. 19:57.097 --> 20:00.533 THE THREE OTHER PEOPLE RUNNING FOR THIS SEAT HAVE BEEN 20:00.533 --> 20:02.869 PRACTICING ATTORNEYS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 20:02.869 --> 20:06.706 YOU'VE BEEN IN THE JUDICIARY SINCE 1993. 20:06.706 --> 20:10.910 IS IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR YOU TO TAKE THE HIGH ROAD AS YOU DON'T 20:10.910 --> 20:13.546 HAVE AS MANY APPARENT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? 20:13.546 --> 20:15.015 >> YOU MIGHT SAY THAT IN PART. 20:15.015 --> 20:19.753 BUT ALSO T WAY THAT I'VE CONDUCTED MYSELF IN AVOIDING 20:19.753 --> 20:25.191 CONFLICTS OF INTEREST HAS BEEN A MAJOR EMPHASIS IN THE WAY THAT 20:25.191 --> 20:29.929 I'VE -- THE WAY I HAVE LED MY CAREER ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. 20:29.929 --> 20:35.135 >> THE NEXT QUESTION 1ST JUDGE GUTIERREZ FROM BILL. 20:35.135 --> 20:36.136 >> GOOD EVENING, JUDGE. 20:36.136 --> 20:39.939 MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE RULING IN THE CASE OF JAMES VERSUS 20:39.939 --> 20:41.841 STIFF BOISE. 20:41.841 --> 20:46.780 IN JANUARY A UNANIMOUS SUPREME COURT SUMMARILY REVERSED THE 20:46.780 --> 20:48.948 IDAHO SUPREME COURT IN THAT CASE. 20:48.948 --> 20:54.688 THE IDAHO COURT MAINTAINED IT WAS NOT BOUND BY THE HIGHER 20:54.688 --> 20:59.993 COURT'S RULING WITH A FEDERAL PARTY IN THE PREVAILING CLAIMS. 20:59.993 --> 21:03.697 THE PRINCIPAL QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT STATES ARE OR ARE 21:03.697 --> 21:04.631 NOT BOUND. 21:04.631 --> 21:07.801 I WANT TO HERE YOUR ANSWER AND OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHER 21:07.801 --> 21:08.368 CANDIDATES. 21:08.368 --> 21:11.905 >> I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE FEDERAL, WE'RE 21:11.905 --> 21:12.872 BOUND BY IT. 21:12.872 --> 21:16.343 IF IT'S A STATE RIGHT AND AN ACTION THAT PERTAINS TO STATE 21:16.343 --> 21:20.013 LAW, NOT INVOLVING FEDERAL AUTHORITY, THEN I THINK IT'S 21:20.013 --> 21:23.283 APPROPRIATE TO DISREGARD THAT. 21:23.283 --> 21:24.117 >> OKAY. 21:24.117 --> 21:28.021 GO DOWN THE LINE, IF WE COULD, SENATOR MCKENZIE. 21:28.021 --> 21:30.657 >> ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS WE HAVE IS THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO 21:30.657 --> 21:35.362 SPEAK ON ISSUES THAT COULD REASONABLY COME BEFORE THE 21:35.362 --> 21:35.895 COUNT. 21:35.895 --> 21:38.465 I CAN SPEAK GENERALLY ABOUT FEDERALISM. 21:38.465 --> 21:40.100 >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. 21:40.100 --> 21:43.770 >> AND SO AGAIN IF IT'S WITHIN THE FEDERAL PURVIEW OF A CASE 21:43.770 --> 21:50.777 WITHIN THAT SYSTEM, THEN AWARDS CAN BE MADE. 21:50.777 --> 21:54.314 OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE BEYOND THE AUTHORITY OF THAT COURT. 21:54.314 --> 21:55.682 >> OKAY. 21:55.682 --> 22:02.889 >> I WOULD AGREE THAT WHEN THERE IS -- THE AUTHORITY IS IN THE 22:02.889 --> 22:05.525 FEDERAL CONSTITUTION AND THAT'S BEEN INTERPRETED, THE STATE 22:05.525 --> 22:08.995 COURTS ARE BOUND BY THOSE INTERPRETATIONS. 22:08.995 --> 22:12.999 WHEN IT'S A MATTER WITHIN THE PREROGATIVE OF THE STATE, IT'S 22:12.999 --> 22:15.702 APPROPRIATE FOR THE STATE COURT TO RULE ON THAT. 22:15.702 --> 22:18.505 >> ACTUALLY I HAD A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE COURT TO 22:18.505 --> 22:22.509 ALLOW ME ON BEHALF OF AN ORGANIZATION TO ACTUALLY APPEAR 22:22.509 --> 22:26.980 IN AN AMICUS CAPACITY IN THAT CASE TO TALK TO THE COURT ABOUT 22:26.980 --> 22:28.348 THE RULING. 22:28.348 --> 22:32.285 I BELIEVE ABSOLUTELY IN THE DIVISION OF POWERS BETWEEN THE 22:32.285 --> 22:33.920 STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 22:33.920 --> 22:38.124 AND ANY TIME THAT THE STATE'S RIGHTS ARE INVADE THAT'S A 22:38.124 --> 22:38.625 PROBLEM. 22:38.625 --> 22:41.461 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN -- THAT 22:41.461 --> 22:42.829 THERE ARE BOUNDARIES TO THAT. 22:42.829 --> 22:46.833 IN THE JAMES CASE WE HAD A SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED 22:46.833 --> 22:49.002 STATES OPINION INTERPRETING A FEDERAL LAW. 22:49.002 --> 22:53.106 IT WAS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. 22:53.106 --> 23:01.247 IT WAS AN INSTANT WHERE 9 COURT YORE STEPPED ITS BOUNDARY. 23:01.247 --> 23:04.617 >> I WANT TO DRILL A LITTLE MORE INTO THE SUBJECT BEFORE I GO 23:04.617 --> 23:06.152 INTO A FOLLOW-UP. 23:06.152 --> 23:10.056 I WANTED TO KIND OF CONTRAST THAT TO A SIMILAR DYNAMIC, THIS 23:10.056 --> 23:12.992 GOES BACK TO ANOTHER STATE. 23:12.992 --> 23:19.165 AND IF YOU RECALL, AFTER THE BURGOT HALES DECISION, CHIEF 23:19.165 --> 23:26.639 JUSTICE IN ALABAMA ROY MOORE INITIALLY REFUSED OR DEFIED THE 23:26.639 --> 23:29.275 COURT IN THAT RULING. 23:29.275 --> 23:34.347 AND IS THAT APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FOR A COURT OFFICER? 23:34.347 --> 23:38.818 WE'LL START WITH -- >> JUDGE ROY MOORE, HE REFUSED 23:38.818 --> 23:44.124 TO BE BOUND BY THE DECISION IN THE CASE, WHICH WAS A SAME-SEX 23:44.124 --> 23:45.258 MARRIAGE CASE. 23:45.258 --> 23:46.726 >> YES. 23:46.726 --> 23:52.032 >> I THINK IF YOU CANNOT AS A JUDGE FOLLOW THE LAW, THEN I 23:52.032 --> 23:56.102 THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE OFF THE ROBES. 23:56.102 --> 24:00.507 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS GOING COME FROM REBECCA BOONE ON 24:00.507 --> 24:01.141 DIVERSITY. 24:01.141 --> 24:03.309 IT'S GOING TO GO TO ROBYN BRODY. 24:03.309 --> 24:07.881 >> MRS. BRODY, MULTIPLE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN HAVING A WOMAN OR 24:07.881 --> 24:12.252 PERSON OF COLOR ON A JUDICIAL PANEL DOESN'T JUST CHANGE THAT 24:12.252 --> 24:15.889 PARTICULAR SEAT BUT CHANGES THE TYPE WAS RULINGS THAT COME FROM 24:15.889 --> 24:17.057 THE ENTIRE PANEL. 24:17.057 --> 24:22.162 THE STUDY SHOWS DIVERSITY CHANGES THE DELIBERATIVE PROCESS 24:22.162 --> 24:24.998 AND THE SUBSEQUENT RULES BY THE COURT. 24:24.998 --> 24:31.871 ABOUT 11% OF IDAHO'S JUDGES ARE WOMEN, THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE 24:31.871 --> 24:32.439 NATIONWIDE. 24:32.439 --> 24:37.544 DO YOU THINK JUDGES, PARTICULARLY WOMEN OR MINORITIES 24:37.544 --> 24:41.715 V BEEN GIVEN SHORTLY SH RIFT BY IDAHO'S COURTS? 24:41.715 --> 24:44.918 >> I'LL TELL WHAT, WE WOULD HAVE A LOT BETTER DECISION MAKING IN 24:44.918 --> 24:49.356 OUR COURT'S WITH A JUDICIARY THAT LOOKS AND REFLECTS LIKE OUR 24:49.356 --> 24:49.923 COMMUNITIES. 24:49.923 --> 24:51.925 I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND. 24:51.925 --> 24:56.096 I KNOW IN MY OWN PRACTICE WHEN I WORK WITH MEN AND OTHER FOLKS 24:56.096 --> 24:59.833 I'M A BETTER LAWYER, WE MAKE BETTER DECISIONS AND WE GET 24:59.833 --> 25:02.035 BETTER CULTS FOR OUR CLIENTS. 25:02.035 --> 25:06.506 THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A REAL 25:06.506 --> 25:07.707 CONCERTED EFFORT. 25:07.707 --> 25:13.513 WHEN WE HAVE QUALIFIED CAPABLE PEOPLE IN THE JUDICIARY WHO CAN 25:13.513 --> 25:17.617 TAKE ON THESE ROLES IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US AS A STATE TO 25:17.617 --> 25:23.256 TAKE ACTION AND HELP PUT US IN POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP. 25:23.256 --> 25:25.992 >> GO AHEAD. 25:25.992 --> 25:29.529 >> WE'RE GOING GO TO CLIVE STRONG FIRST BUT YOU'LL HAVE 25:29.529 --> 25:32.599 YOUR CHANCE TO ANSWER. 25:32.599 --> 25:38.905 >> WITH THAT DIVERSITY IN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO JUDICIAL 25:38.905 --> 25:42.542 PANELS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE DIVERSITY ON IDAHO'S COURTS? 25:42.542 --> 25:45.812 AND DO YOU THINK YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES SHOULD OR WOULD HAVE 25:45.812 --> 25:50.016 ANY IMPACT ON DECISIONS YOU MIGHT MAKES A A JUSTICE? 25:50.016 --> 25:54.254 >> I THINK ETHNIC DIVERSITY AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY ON THE COURT 25:54.254 --> 25:55.922 IS IMPERATIVE. 25:55.922 --> 25:59.759 IT'S SOMETHING WE SUPPORT BUT NOT JUST ON THE COURT BUT 25:59.759 --> 26:01.661 THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE PRACTICE. 26:01.661 --> 26:06.499 IT'S SOMETHING I TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS SUPERVISOR OF THE 26:06.499 --> 26:07.867 OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. 26:07.867 --> 26:12.505 I HAVE MANY VERY EXPERIENCED FEMALE ATTORNEYS IN MY OFFICE, 26:12.505 --> 26:18.411 MANY OF WHOM HAVE GONE ON TO THE BENCH BOTH AS MAGISTRATES AND 26:18.411 --> 26:19.212 DISTRICT COURTS. 26:19.212 --> 26:23.049 I HAVE DONE A PROGRAM TRYING TO FOSTER THE ADVANCEMENT OF WOMEN 26:23.049 --> 26:23.883 WITHIN THE OFFICE. 26:23.883 --> 26:27.687 I HAD A LEGAL SECRETARY I PERCEIVED HAD THE SKILLS TO BE 26:27.687 --> 26:28.254 AN ATTORNEY. 26:28.254 --> 26:33.259 I ENCOURAGED HER TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND SHE'S NOW WORKING FOR 26:33.259 --> 26:33.727 ME. 26:33.727 --> 26:36.329 >> SENATOR MCKENZIE, YOUR THOUGHTS ON DIVERSITY IN THE 26:36.329 --> 26:36.963 COURTS. 26:36.963 --> 26:40.500 >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, NOT JUST DIVERSITY GENDER AND 26:40.500 --> 26:43.336 CULTURAL BUT BACKGROUNDS OF PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THE COURT. 26:43.336 --> 26:47.807 ONE OF THE ROLES OF OUR SUPERIORITY IS TO ADMINISTER OUR 26:47.807 --> 26:53.446 COURT SYSTEM AND TO DEVELOP THOSE DISTRICT JUDGE AND 26:53.446 --> 26:57.851 MAGISTRATE JUDGE AND OTHER JUDGES THAT REFLECT THEIR 26:57.851 --> 26:58.385 COMMUNITIES. 26:58.385 --> 27:01.588 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON. 27:01.588 --> 27:08.028 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ, I THINK YOU RECENTLY RELATED AN INCIDENT TO 27:08.028 --> 27:13.767 BETS SEE ABOUT COURT INTERPRETERS, AND HOW YOUR 27:13.767 --> 27:17.037 EXPERIENCE WITH THE MINORITY ON THE COURT HELPED YOU IDENTIFY A 27:17.037 --> 27:21.574 PROBLEM THAT SOME OF THE INTERPRETATIONS WEREN'T CORRECT. 27:21.574 --> 27:25.845 WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S A CRUCIAL ROLE 27:25.845 --> 27:28.515 THAT SHOULD BE FOSTERED. 27:28.515 --> 27:33.887 >> I THINK THAT'S VITAL, NOT ONLY IN THE JUDICIAL AND 27:33.887 --> 27:37.323 DELIBERATIVE PROCESS, BUT POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT 27:37.323 --> 27:39.159 IMPACT THE ENTIRE CITIZENRY. 27:39.159 --> 27:42.896 AND THIRD IS THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE IT ADDS AUTHENTICITY TO 27:42.896 --> 27:47.634 THE COURT AND WHAT IT STANDS, FOR AND THAT IS JUSTICE FOR ALL. 27:47.634 --> 27:50.637 >> REBECK CAR, YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP? 27:50.637 --> 27:52.105 >> I DID, YES. 27:52.105 --> 27:57.644 SO WHAT ABOUT -- WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT 27:57.644 --> 28:01.948 ASPECT OF REPRESENTING THE STATE IN THE COURT'S THAT WE'RE 28:01.948 --> 28:03.483 CURRENTLY MISSING? 28:03.483 --> 28:06.653 WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO INCREASE DIVERSITY? 28:06.653 --> 28:12.592 >> WE FOUND OUT THE JUDICIAL RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION SURVEY 28:12.592 --> 28:16.296 OR REPORT THAT WE WERE OPERATING UNDER A PERCEPTION BY THE BAR 28:16.296 --> 28:20.133 THAT FOLKS WERE DISQUALIFYING THEMSELVES FROM APPLYING TO THE 28:20.133 --> 28:21.234 BENCH THAT. 28:21.234 --> 28:22.836 INCLUDED WOMEN AND MINORITIES. 28:22.836 --> 28:26.973 AND SO WE NEED TO WORK ON ELIMINATING THOSE BARRIERS, 28:26.973 --> 28:34.881 THOSE PERCEPTIONS AND ALSO DOING MORE ON THE REGROUP END TO HAVE 28:34.881 --> 28:39.686 A PILLOW ACTIVE SUPREME COURT ON THAT ISSUE. 28:39.686 --> 28:44.624 WE HAVE WITH THE DIVERSITY SECTION A PIPELINE PROGRAM 28:44.624 --> 28:47.861 GEARED TOWARDS DISARRANGED HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, STARTING EARLY 28:47.861 --> 28:53.500 HOPING TO CREATE A PIPELINE TO DIVERSITY FYE BOTH 9 BAR AND 28:53.500 --> 28:54.000 BENCH. 28:54.000 --> 28:56.636 >> MR. STRONG, YOU TALKED ABOUT DIVERSITY OF PRACTICE AND ALSO 28:56.636 --> 28:58.471 PEOPLE WITHIN YOUR PRACTICE. 28:58.471 --> 29:02.909 DOES THAT HAVE THE SAME -- DOES HIRING SAY CLERKS WHO ARE 29:02.909 --> 29:09.582 MINORITIES, OR WOMEN, HAVE THE SAME SORT OF IMPACT THAT HAVING 29:09.582 --> 29:14.387 A BROADER REPRESENTATION WITHIN THE JUDICIARY ITSELF? 29:14.387 --> 29:17.590 >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A BROADER REPRESENTATION 29:17.590 --> 29:19.125 WITHIN THE JUDICIARY. 29:19.125 --> 29:21.227 BUT YOU HAVE TO BUILD FROM THE BOTTOM UP. 29:21.227 --> 29:22.829 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 29:22.829 --> 29:28.234 EVERY ONE OF US HAS AN OBLIGATION TO FOSTER THAT 29:28.234 --> 29:28.835 ENVIRONMENT. 29:28.835 --> 29:41.681 WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD INVITE THAT KIND OF 29:41.681 --> 29:42.349 INCLUSIVE. 29:42.349 --> 29:45.251 >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OBVIOUS TO THE FOLKS IN THE TV AUDIENCE 29:45.251 --> 29:48.855 THAT IN FACT WE'RE -- THE SUPREME COURT IN IDAHO IS ONE OF 29:48.855 --> 29:52.425 TWO OR THREE COURTS IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY 29:52.425 --> 29:56.329 GENDER REPRESENTATION OR PEOPLE OF COLOR REPRESENTATION. 29:56.329 --> 29:58.331 >> NEXT QUESTION FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 29:58.331 --> 30:00.066 >> THIS QUESTION IS FOR MRS. 30:00.066 --> 30:00.600 BRODY. 30:00.600 --> 30:04.537 YOU'RE THE ONLY CANDIDATE AMONG THESE FOUR COMING TO THE RACE 30:04.537 --> 30:07.073 WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND IN GOVERNMENT. 30:07.073 --> 30:11.111 SHOULD VOTERS CONSIDER THAT A PRO OR A CON AND WHY? 30:11.111 --> 30:13.713 >> WELL, PROBABLY MY ONLY SIGNIFICANT BACKGROUND IN 30:13.713 --> 30:20.987 GOVERNMENT WOULD BE SUING THE GOVERNMENT. 30:20.987 --> 30:24.290 FROM MY WORLD I VIEW IT AS A PLUS. 30:24.290 --> 30:28.094 WHEN I TALKED ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING ABOUT CRAWLING INTO 30:28.094 --> 30:32.465 THE FOXHOLE WITH THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, THAT'S 30:32.465 --> 30:35.135 EXACTLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM. 30:35.135 --> 30:42.742 DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M NOT A CONTRARIAN, I'M ALL ABOUT SAYING 30:42.742 --> 30:45.745 YES AND PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH ACCESS AND BASIC RIGHTS. 30:45.745 --> 30:49.849 I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, EVEN TAKING ON THIS RACE, I 30:49.849 --> 30:53.019 VIEWED THIS AS A CHANCE TO VOTE WITH THE PEOPLE. 30:53.019 --> 30:59.359 I PUT MY TRUST IN THE PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK. 30:59.359 --> 31:05.331 >> AND MR. STRONG, YOUR BACKGROUND IN GOVERNMENT IS 31:05.331 --> 31:06.433 QUITE EXTENSIVE. 31:06.433 --> 31:09.235 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN US A APPROACH THE ROLE OF AN IDAHO 31:09.235 --> 31:10.503 SUPREME COURT JUSTICE? 31:10.503 --> 31:14.507 >> I THINK I WOULD BRING SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THE IDAHO 31:14.507 --> 31:16.176 SUPERIORITY WITH MY GOVERNMENTAL EXPERIENCE. 31:16.176 --> 31:22.716 I UNDERSTAND HOW THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND 31:22.716 --> 31:25.251 JUDICIARY INTERACT. 31:25.251 --> 31:30.890 I UNDERSTAND HOW PROBLEMS ARISE AND HOW TO AVOID THEM AS YOU GO 31:30.890 --> 31:31.758 FORWARD. 31:31.758 --> 31:35.562 THERE IS NOBODY ON THE COURT WITH THAT BACKGROUND IN 31:35.562 --> 31:38.631 ADMINISTRATIVE LAW THAT CAN COME FORWARD AND PROVIDE THAT 31:38.631 --> 31:40.400 BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE TO THE COURT. 31:40.400 --> 31:43.470 I THINK MY GOVERNMENTAL SERVICE IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S 31:43.470 --> 31:44.738 NEEDED ON THE COURT. 31:44.738 --> 31:48.908 >> BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO SENATOR MCKENZIE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR 31:48.908 --> 31:50.010 YOU, MR. STRONG. 31:50.010 --> 31:54.147 YOU HAVE WORKED IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE FOR 30 YEARS 31:54.147 --> 31:55.548 NOW, SINCE 1983. 31:55.548 --> 31:59.686 YOU HAVE WORKED WITH MILLIMETER OF THE PEOPLE WHO END UP 31:59.686 --> 32:03.323 REPRESENTING THE STATE IN FRONT OF THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT. 32:03.323 --> 32:09.062 SO WILL YOU BE WILL TO LOOK AT THOSE OR WILL YOU HAVE TO RECUSE 32:09.062 --> 32:13.600 YOURSELF FROM EVERYTHING THE IDAHO ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE 32:13.600 --> 32:14.534 HAS TOUCHED? 32:14.534 --> 32:17.437 >> I THINK IF YOU LOOK THE ANSWER IS THERE. 32:17.437 --> 32:20.707 WHEN THE GOVERNMENT EXCEEDS ITS BOUNDARIES I'VE BEEN WILLING TO 32:20.707 --> 32:22.642 TAKE ON THE CASE AND ARGUE IT. 32:22.642 --> 32:25.812 WHEN THE LEGISLATURE AND THE ABANDONLORD EXCEEDED THEIR 32:25.812 --> 32:28.882 AUTHORITIES, I PREPARED THOSE CASES. 32:28.882 --> 32:32.185 WHEN THERE WAS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE JUDICIARY AND THE 32:32.185 --> 32:34.521 LEGISLATURE, I PROSECUTED THAT CASE. 32:34.521 --> 32:39.826 I THINK MY REPORT DEMONSTRATES WHEN NECESSARY I'M RILLING TO 32:39.826 --> 32:50.470 TAKE THE STEPS TO MAKE SURE WORD GOVERNMENTS WILL CONTINUE THE 32:50.470 --> 32:51.037 LAW. 32:51.037 --> 32:52.739 >> I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. 32:52.739 --> 32:57.777 I THINK THERE ARE CASES THAT MY OPPONENT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN 32:57.777 --> 33:01.314 EXTENSIVELY, AND WHERE IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF BEING IN THE 33:01.314 --> 33:04.050 OFFICE WHERE THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN HANDLED. 33:04.050 --> 33:10.156 BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT REAL INTIMATE DAY-TO-DAY INVOLVEMENT. 33:10.156 --> 33:14.094 AND THOSE DISPUTES ARE LIKELY TO PERCOLATE UP THROUGH THE SYSTEM. 33:14.094 --> 33:20.066 >> BUT ONE OF THE INCLINED THAT YOU ERUPTED MRS. BRODIE, HAS 33:20.066 --> 33:28.341 BEEN RANKIN WATER WHICH HAS HAD TWO CASES IN THE IDAHO SUPREME 33:28.341 --> 33:28.908 COURT. 33:28.908 --> 33:31.745 IF THEY ARE THERE AGAIN WILL YOU BE ABLE TO LOOK AT POTHOLES 33:31.745 --> 33:34.080 WATER ISSUES IMPARTIALLY? 33:34.080 --> 33:38.551 >> NO, I WOULD HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ANY ISSUE INVOLVING 33:38.551 --> 33:41.354 MY CLIENT, ANY ISSUE AT ALL. 33:41.354 --> 33:44.357 >> SENATOR MCKENZIE, YOUR BACKGROUND IN GOVERNMENT HAS 33:44.357 --> 33:45.992 BEEN IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. 33:45.992 --> 33:50.030 FOR 14 YEARS YOU WERE A MEMBER OF A BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT 33:50.030 --> 33:53.667 DID NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE JUDICIAL BRANCH. 33:53.667 --> 33:57.671 HOW DO YOU BRING THAT EXPERIENCE TO A POSITION AS A SUPERIORITY 33:57.671 --> 33:58.505 JUDGE? 33:58.505 --> 34:03.843 >> I THINK 8 USEFUL BACKGROUND TO HAVE, TO BE BOTH ONE OF THE 34:03.843 --> 34:08.848 LONGER SERVING STATE SENATORS AS WELL AS HAVING AN ACTIVE 34:08.848 --> 34:11.151 PRACTICE IN THE LAW. 34:11.151 --> 34:15.088 WE'VE HAD OTHER JUSTICES WITH THAT BACKGROUND, JUSTICE 34:15.088 --> 34:18.625 MCDEVITT WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE, JUSTICE JONES WAS AN ELECTED 34:18.625 --> 34:19.426 ATTORNEY GENERAL. 34:19.426 --> 34:23.630 I THINK THOSE TYPES OF BACKGROUND HELP INFORM YOUR 34:23.630 --> 34:27.534 DECISIONS AND UNDERSTAND THE CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE 34:27.534 --> 34:28.435 DIFFERENT BRANCHES. 34:28.435 --> 34:32.505 AND SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD BACKGROUND TO HAVE, AND 34:32.505 --> 34:38.111 CERTAINLY HELPS ME UNDERSTAND HOW OUR LAWS GET TO THE COURT, 34:38.111 --> 34:49.122 JUST LIKE HAVE A TRIAL PRACTICE HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THE WAY 34:49.122 --> 34:52.125 EVIDENTIARY ISSUES ARISE AND COME BEFORE THE COLT. 34:52.125 --> 34:55.261 >> YOUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN THE JUDICIAL BRANCH FOR MANY 34:55.261 --> 34:55.729 YEARS. 34:55.729 --> 34:58.665 SO HOW AS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE WOULD YOU APPROACH THE 34:58.665 --> 35:02.869 EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCH? 35:02.869 --> 35:08.508 >> WELL, WITH MUCH RESPECT, AS WE ARE ALL EQUAL BRANCHES OF 35:08.508 --> 35:09.142 GOVERNMENT. 35:09.142 --> 35:16.516 BUT ALSO WITH THE IDEA THAT SOME PROBLEMS ARE NOT BEST RESOLVED 35:16.516 --> 35:20.320 BY LAWSUITS OR CASES BUT RATHER BY WORKING TOGETHER. 35:20.320 --> 35:25.325 AND TO THAT EXTENT I WOULD DO MY WORK AS A JUSTICE IN DECIDING 35:25.325 --> 35:25.892 CASES. 35:25.892 --> 35:30.797 BUT ALSO BE LOOKING TO PARTICIPATE IN COLLABORATIVE 35:30.797 --> 35:32.799 WORKING TOWARDS SOLUTIONS. 35:32.799 --> 35:37.170 I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT MY BACKGROUND AS A LAWYER ALSO 35:37.170 --> 35:39.706 INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATIVE PRACTICE OF LAW. 35:39.706 --> 35:43.543 AND ALSO SAY THAT ONE OF THE BENEFITS FROM BEING A JUDGE THIS 35:43.543 --> 35:46.446 MANY YEARS IS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE CHANGE IN OUR 35:46.446 --> 35:48.014 COURT SYSTEM. 35:48.014 --> 35:51.718 WE OPERATE MUCH DIFFERENTLY TODAY THAN WE DIN 1983. 35:51.718 --> 35:54.454 >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT 35:54.454 --> 35:55.555 WORKING TOGETHER. 35:55.555 --> 35:59.392 WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY CAN DO THAT, AND THAT IS 35:59.392 --> 35:59.926 APPROPRIATE? 35:59.926 --> 36:00.860 >> IT IS, IT IS. 36:00.860 --> 36:07.300 I WAS A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNOR'S JUSTICE APPEALS COMMISSION AND 36:07.300 --> 36:12.405 ONE OF THE ACTION WES TOOK WAS TO BRING IN AN OUTSIDE GROUP TO 36:12.405 --> 36:15.308 EVALUATE OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER SYSTEM. 36:15.308 --> 36:20.146 THAT IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AREA TO ADDRESS AS WE TALKED 36:20.146 --> 36:21.681 ABOUT ACTIVITY ISSUES. 36:21.681 --> 36:29.789 I THINK IT WAS JUSTICE BRYER WHO MENTIONED IN THE CASE, ONLY 27% 36:29.789 --> 36:34.094 OF OUR COUNTY FUND OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS IN THE COUNTRY ARE 36:34.094 --> 36:36.696 REALLY OPERATING AS THEY SHOULD. 36:36.696 --> 36:40.867 WITH OF THE WORK IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION, THAT'S AN 36:40.867 --> 36:43.870 EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED. 36:43.870 --> 36:48.441 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BILL DENSER. 36:48.441 --> 36:53.713 >> RIGHT, ROBYN BRODY. 36:53.713 --> 36:58.752 >> IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE STATE'S TOP JUDICIAL OFFICERS. 36:58.752 --> 37:01.755 I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM YOU AND THE REST OF THE CANDIDATES WHAT 37:01.755 --> 37:05.492 SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ARE THAT FACE THE IDAHO JUDICIARY OVER 37:05.492 --> 37:06.960 THE NEXT DECADE. 37:06.960 --> 37:09.462 ARE THERE ENOUGH JUDGES? 37:09.462 --> 37:10.663 ARE THEY PAID ENOUGH? 37:10.663 --> 37:12.932 IS THE SYSTEM WORKING WELL? 37:12.932 --> 37:18.872 IS IT OVERBURDENED, WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 37:18.872 --> 37:23.209 >> WELL, ABSOLUTELY THE TURNOVER OF JUMPS IN GOING TO BE AN 37:23.209 --> 37:25.145 INCREDIBLE ISSUE THAT WE FACE. 37:25.145 --> 37:30.316 I BELIEVE IT'S NEARLY 50% OF THE JUDGES ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE 37:30.316 --> 37:32.786 FOR RETIREMENT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 37:32.786 --> 37:39.059 FRANKLY I'M HOPING THAT ME JUDGING INTO THIS RACE WILL GIVE 37:39.059 --> 37:45.632 SOME OTHERS THE DESIRE TO MAKE WANT TO JUMP INTO THE JUDICIARY, 37:45.632 --> 37:50.503 AND MAYBE THE NOTION THAT IT'S POSSIBLE, IT'S DOABLE. 37:50.503 --> 37:54.441 THE OTHER BIG FACT IS IMPLEMENTING TECHNOLOGY 37:54.441 --> 37:56.376 THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 37:56.376 --> 38:00.747 WE'VE GOT 43 MORE COUNTIES YOU TO GO AND THAT'S AN ENORMOUS 38:00.747 --> 38:01.648 UNDERTAKING. 38:01.648 --> 38:03.850 >> THE NEXT QUESTION 1ST CLIVE STRONG. 38:03.850 --> 38:08.755 >> I BELIEVE THE BIGGEST ISSUE CONFRONTING THE COURT IS ACCESS 38:08.755 --> 38:12.292 TO THE COURT AND IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 38:12.292 --> 38:14.594 WE'RE IN THE PROCESS AS MRS. 38:14.594 --> 38:19.399 BRODY SAID, OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT AN IMAGING SYSTEM AND 38:19.399 --> 38:20.700 CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 38:20.700 --> 38:25.772 THOSE ARE THINGS I IMPLEMENTED 23 YEARS AGO IN THE SNAKE RIVER 38:25.772 --> 38:26.673 AJUDICATION. 38:26.673 --> 38:30.577 I HAVE THAT KIND OF MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE AND ALSO CASE 38:30.577 --> 38:32.512 MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE. 38:32.512 --> 38:41.054 THE OTHER COST 6 ACCESS WAS THE COST AND TIME AFTER SEEING THE 38:41.054 --> 38:41.588 WORK. 38:41.588 --> 38:51.631 WE HAVEN'T TAILORED THE SYSTEM TO THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS. 38:51.631 --> 39:01.307 >> AND LIKE WISE ON THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SIDE, WE HAVE A LOT OF 39:01.307 --> 39:02.008 DEDELAYS. 39:02.008 --> 39:04.678 SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL COURTS OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COURTS ARE 39:04.678 --> 39:09.182 PROVIDING WAYS TO SUGGEST DRAYS ON THE CRIMINAL AUTO SIDE. 39:09.182 --> 39:12.852 SOME OF THOSE ARE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. 39:12.852 --> 39:16.823 >> IT'S KIND OF AN EXCITING TIME FOR IDAHO WITH OUR JUSTICE 39:16.823 --> 39:17.590 SYSTEM. 39:17.590 --> 39:21.027 WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. 39:21.027 --> 39:28.601 TO THE PUBLIC DEFENSE SYSTEM THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN DECADES IN THE 39:28.601 --> 39:33.206 STATE, MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE PROPERLY PROTECTED AS THEY GO 39:33.206 --> 39:36.309 THROUGH THE COURT TESTIMONY THE. 39:36.309 --> 39:42.048 OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES WE'VE HAD OUR PROBLEM-SOLVING 39:42.048 --> 39:46.052 COURTS, I'VE SPENT HOURS WITH MENTAL HEALTH COURT, DRUG COURT, 39:46.052 --> 39:46.986 VETERANS COURT. 39:46.986 --> 39:52.425 THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT WAY OF HOW PEOPLE INTERACT WITH OUR 39:52.425 --> 39:53.426 COURT SYSTEM. 39:53.426 --> 39:56.996 THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ON. 39:56.996 --> 40:05.171 THE OTHER ISSUE IS A GOT A RECRUITMENT. 40:05.171 --> 40:11.644 AND ENSURE OUR JUDGESES THAT JUDGES ARE NOT DELAYED FOR OTHER 40:11.644 --> 40:12.712 PEOPLE. 40:12.712 --> 40:23.023 >> I THINK AS -- TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SINCE 1993, WHILE WE'VE 40:23.023 --> 40:26.760 ADDED JUDGES WE HAVE NOT YET ADDED ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF TO 40:26.760 --> 40:30.764 THE CLERK'S OFFICE AT THE SUPREME COURT. 40:30.764 --> 40:34.367 AND AN INCREASE IN CASELOADS ALL THE TIME. 40:34.367 --> 40:37.270 ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS WITH THE INCREASING DIVERSITY IN THE 40:37.270 --> 40:41.107 STATE DEMOGRAPHICALLY, ADA COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE LAST 40:41.107 --> 40:45.945 TWO YEARS HAS BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 50 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES 40:45.945 --> 40:52.118 NEEDED, DIFFERENT LANGUAGES FOR OUR CLERK TO OPERATE AND PROVIDE 40:52.118 --> 40:57.490 THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED INTERPRETERS. 40:57.490 --> 40:59.626 IT IS VERY HIGH QUALITY. 40:59.626 --> 41:05.899 THE OTHER AREA ON THE ACCESS ISSUE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE 41:05.899 --> 41:07.967 PUBLIC DEFENDER ISSUE. 41:07.967 --> 41:13.540 THE PROBLEM ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS THE DECLINING OF CIVIL 41:13.540 --> 41:14.007 JUSTICE. 41:14.007 --> 41:22.882 PART OF IT IS THE CLOSET OF AN INCREASE IN LEGISLATION A. YOU 41:22.882 --> 41:31.925 WOULD ASK A YOUNG PERSON, AND HE WOULD SAY NO, WE COULD NOT. 41:31.925 --> 41:35.829 FOLKS ARE HAVING TO TURN ELSEWHERE TO GET THEIR CONFLICTS 41:35.829 --> 41:37.564 AND CLAIMS RESOLVED. 41:37.564 --> 41:42.569 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ, I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR YOU. 41:42.569 --> 41:46.573 THE STATE OF IDAHO IS CURRENTLY BEING SUED OVER ITS PUBLIC 41:46.573 --> 41:47.374 DEFENSE SYSTEM. 41:47.374 --> 41:53.947 YOU'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE JUDICIARY IN IDAHO SINCE 1993. 41:53.947 --> 41:57.517 HOW MUCH RESPONSIBILITY DOES THE JUDICIARY HAVE FOR THE STATE'S 41:57.517 --> 41:58.718 PUBLIC DEFENSE SYSTEM? 41:58.718 --> 42:03.256 >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S THE JUDGE'S ROLE TO 42:03.256 --> 42:12.265 ENSURE THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RIGHTS GIVEN THE DEFENDANTS ARE 42:12.265 --> 42:12.732 AFFECTED. 42:12.732 --> 42:15.268 WHETHER SOMEBODY ELSE HAS RESPONSIBILITIES, THE COURTS 42:15.268 --> 42:16.436 HAVE TO ACT. 42:16.436 --> 42:18.438 FROM A TRIAL JUDGE PERSPECTIVE. 42:18.438 --> 42:21.875 MY VIEW OF A LAWYER WHO IS NOT PERFORMING, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE 42:21.875 --> 42:24.010 ACTION IN THAT REGARD. 42:24.010 --> 42:27.647 >> AND SENATOR MCKENZIE, I'M HOPING TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON 42:27.647 --> 42:28.615 THAT, TOO. 42:28.615 --> 42:37.457 >> THIS IS AN ISSUE BESSIE RAISED EARLIER, THE SCIENTIFIC 42:37.457 --> 42:42.295 GRANT AND THE TESTING BRANCH. 42:42.295 --> 42:47.367 THAT TAKES FUNDING AND STANDARDS IN THE GRANTS WHICH WE DIDN'T 42:47.367 --> 42:49.936 HAVE FOR DECADES IN THE STATE. 42:49.936 --> 42:53.573 I'VE SERVED FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND NOW WE HAVE STANDARDS 42:53.573 --> 43:04.984 FOR WHAT' FUNDED. 43:04.984 --> 43:08.154 >> THE TWO BRANCHES HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO SOLVE IT. 43:08.154 --> 43:10.256 >> WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG? 43:10.256 --> 43:11.725 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 43:11.725 --> 43:15.362 WE WERE A STATE THAT VERY EARLY ON RECOGNIZED THE RIGHT FOR 43:15.362 --> 43:18.631 PEOPLE TO HAVE A PUBLIC DEFENDER. 43:18.631 --> 43:20.600 IT WAS ALWAYS PROVIDED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. 43:20.600 --> 43:23.269 IT WAS THAT LAWSUIT THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT BROUGHT IT TO THE 43:23.269 --> 43:26.873 ATTENTION OF THE STATE AND GOT THE ACTION IN ORDER TO MOVE 43:26.873 --> 43:28.341 FORWARD. 43:28.341 --> 43:34.114 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM REBECCA BOONE TO CLIVE STRONG. 43:34.114 --> 43:38.251 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ TALKED ON THIS A BIT BUT I'D LIKE TO 43:38.251 --> 43:39.753 AGREED YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS. 43:39.753 --> 43:44.624 WHAT ROLE DO YOU THINK PRO BONO WORK SHOULD PLAY IN THE IDAHO 43:44.624 --> 43:46.893 JUDICIAL SYSTEM. 43:46.893 --> 43:51.364 IDAHO LEGAL AIDS THAT FREQUENTLY SAID THEY ARE STRUGGLING FOR 43:51.364 --> 43:52.198 FUNDING. 43:52.198 --> 43:58.204 ATTORNEY RESOURCE EXPECTED TO DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PRO BONO 43:58.204 --> 43:59.406 WORK GENERALLY. 43:59.406 --> 44:03.943 >> WELL, AS A PROFESSIONAL WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO HELP SERVE 44:03.943 --> 44:04.778 THE PUBLIC. 44:04.778 --> 44:09.315 I'M VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO THE IDEA OF PRO BONO WORK AND I 44:09.315 --> 44:16.489 THINK THE BAR HAS ATTEMPTED TO JUDGER IN A SPECIFIC WAY. 44:16.489 --> 44:19.526 WHETHER WE NEED MORE, IT IS SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO 44:19.526 --> 44:24.431 LOOK AT AND WE NEED TO FOSTER. 44:24.431 --> 44:33.073 >> YOU NEW YORK CITY I WAS RECENTLY AT A CANDIDATE FORUM. 44:33.073 --> 44:36.710 DENNIS VOORHEES ACTUALLY RAISES THE ISSUE OF WHETHER WE NEED A 44:36.710 --> 44:40.113 MECHANISM OR A WAY FOR NONLAWYERS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE 44:40.113 --> 44:41.348 LEGAL SERVICES TO FOLKS. 44:41.348 --> 44:44.284 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEFINITELY GOT TO EXPLORE. 44:44.284 --> 44:48.988 THE REALITY IS THIS, ESPECIALLY IN PLACES WHERE I LIVE, LIKE IN 44:48.988 --> 44:52.025 RUPERT, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO BASIC THINGS LIKE INTERNET 44:52.025 --> 44:59.866 SERVICES, BEING ABLE TO FAX A BASIC LETTER TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT 44:59.866 --> 45:02.402 COMMISSION TO, HEALTH AND WELFARE. 45:02.402 --> 45:07.140 I KNOW LAWYER RESOURCE DOING THE SAME THING WORKS OPEN UP OUR 45:07.140 --> 45:10.510 DOORS AND HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN. 45:10.510 --> 45:15.315 I THINK THE BAR HAS A WHOLE HAS GOT LOOK AT CREATIVE WAYS OF 45:15.315 --> 45:18.218 PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH ACCESS TO THE LAWYER. 45:18.218 --> 45:21.621 >> MR. STRONG, DO YOU THINK ATTORNEYS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO 45:21.621 --> 45:23.056 DO PRO BONO WORK? 45:23.056 --> 45:27.160 YOU MENTIONED HAVING INDIVIDUALS WHO AREN'T ATTORNEYS PERHAPS 45:27.160 --> 45:28.495 TAKE ON SOME OF THIS ROLE. 45:28.495 --> 45:35.168 DOES THAT CREATE KIND OF A LOWER TIER OF LESS EFFECTIVE 45:35.168 --> 45:36.903 REPRESENTATION THEN? 45:36.903 --> 45:42.008 >> WELL, I'VE SEEN INCREDIBLERY EFFECTIVE REPRESENTATION FROM 45:42.008 --> 45:45.278 NONLAWYERS, PARTICULARLY FOR EXAMPLE IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY 45:45.278 --> 45:45.912 SYSTEM. 45:45.912 --> 45:48.548 I AGREE THAT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT FOOL STRIKE. 45:48.548 --> 45:57.757 THAT IS, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT CONFIDENT, CABLE 45:57.757 --> 45:59.192 OF PEOPLE. 45:59.192 --> 46:03.863 GENERALLY SPEAKING, PUTTING A NUMBER SAYING A LAWYER HAS TO 46:03.863 --> 46:08.034 PROVIDE SO MANY HOURS OF PRO BONO SERVICE EVERY YEAR, I DON'T 46:08.034 --> 46:11.237 THINK THAT GETS US ANYWHERE TOWARDS WHAT WE'RE REALLY 46:11.237 --> 46:15.308 TALKING ABOUT, HELPING PEOPLE WITH FUNDAMENTAL ACCESS TO THE 46:15.308 --> 46:15.842 COURTS. 46:15.842 --> 46:23.983 I THINK IT'S BIGGER ATLANTA JUST A PRO BONE NATIONAL. 46:23.983 --> 46:31.791 >> YES, I THINK IT HAS TO BE CRATES BY TWO GROUPS. 46:31.791 --> 46:36.863 WE SEE HOW THE WORK IS BEING DONE IN CLINICS AND LAW SCHOOLS. 46:36.863 --> 46:42.268 OTHER STATES ARE BEGINNING TO DO THAT, FOCUSING ON CERTAIN AREAS 46:42.268 --> 46:49.909 OF THE LAW, SUCH AS FOR FAMILY LAW PURPOSES. 46:49.909 --> 46:51.277 >> SENATOR INCOME KENZIE. 46:51.277 --> 46:55.081 >> JUST TO GET BACK TO THE PRO BONO WORK. 46:55.081 --> 47:01.388 WE NOW HAVE TWO LAW SCHOOLS IN THE POPULATION CENTER OF THE 47:01.388 --> 47:01.855 STATE. 47:01.855 --> 47:06.593 ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID VERY WELL WITH WAS CLINIC PROGRAMS. 47:06.593 --> 47:09.662 STUDENTS GET EXPERIENCE THEMSELVES AND BENEFIT THE 47:09.662 --> 47:13.600 COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR LEGAL SERVICE AS WE EXPAND THOSE 47:13.600 --> 47:14.834 CLINIC PROGRAMS. 47:14.834 --> 47:16.836 >> YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN, MR. 47:16.836 --> 47:17.771 STRONG. 47:17.771 --> 47:18.772 >> JUST ONE QUICK THOUGHT. 47:18.772 --> 47:23.410 ONE APPROACH TO DOING THAT IS THROUGH AN INCENTIVE BASED 47:23.410 --> 47:25.478 APPROACH THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. 47:25.478 --> 47:31.885 WE MAKE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE IN THE STAFF TO DO THAT 47:31.885 --> 47:40.727 KIND OF FIRM, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE FROM 47:40.727 --> 47:44.631 WORKING IN THE PRO BONO PROGRAM. 47:44.631 --> 47:50.270 >> ONE LONG-STANDING TENSION IS ADVANCE PARAPHERNALIACY VERSUS 47:50.270 --> 47:51.871 PRIV ADVOCACY. 47:51.871 --> 47:56.242 WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AND THE PUBLIC'S 47:56.242 --> 48:04.117 ACCESS TO THEM, AS WELL AS CAMERAS IN THE COURTROOM? 48:04.117 --> 48:08.588 >> THE ACCESS TO FEDERAL DOCUMENTS, THE PUBLIC HAS A 48:08.588 --> 48:13.393 GREAT SOLUTION TO WHERE EVERYONE'S FILED ELECTRONIC LEE 48:13.393 --> 48:25.305 AND IT'S EASY TO CEO THOSE IN FORM OR DOCUMENTS. 48:25.305 --> 48:29.976 WHEN IT ISSUE IS THE COURTROOM THE OVERRIDING ISSUE OF 48:29.976 --> 48:31.311 TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT. 48:31.311 --> 48:35.982 THERE MAY BE CASES WHERE IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, JUVENILE CASES, 48:35.982 --> 48:40.954 CASES WHERE THEY HAVE SEALED INFORMATION, SOMETHING LIKE 48:40.954 --> 48:41.988 THAT. 48:41.988 --> 48:44.724 THE OVERALL SHOULD BE OPENNESS IN THE COURTROOM. 48:44.724 --> 48:47.360 >> CLIVE STRONG, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THE SAME THING. 48:47.360 --> 48:53.266 >> CAMERAS IN THE COURTROOM, ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS. 48:53.266 --> 48:59.105 >> THEY HAVE A MEDIA IN THE COURT'S COMMITTEE, A MANUAL THAT 48:59.105 --> 49:06.179 HELPS THEM UNDERSTAND THE MEDIA OPEN PLACE AND OPENLY EMBRACE 49:06.179 --> 49:10.650 THE IDEA OF HAVING CAMERAS IN THE COURTROOMS. 49:10.650 --> 49:13.820 THAT CREATES TRUST AMONGST THE PUBLIC. 49:13.820 --> 49:17.023 THERE ARE PROTECTIONS THAT WILL ALLOW THE JUDGE IF NECESSARY TO 49:17.023 --> 49:22.595 PUT LIMITS ON THE CAMERA IN THE COURTROOM IN ORDER TO PROTECT 49:22.595 --> 49:23.830 INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. 49:23.830 --> 49:30.603 >> SAME QUESTION. 49:30.603 --> 49:33.606 >> BETSY, I THINK THE ANSWERS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN WOULD COME 49:33.606 --> 49:34.774 FROM ME, AS WELL. 49:34.774 --> 49:39.346 JUST BALANCING ACCESS AND OPENNESS IN THE COURTS WITH -- 49:39.346 --> 49:41.247 WITH FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS IS IMPORTANT. 49:41.247 --> 49:47.153 I THINK THE MEDIA GUIDE GOES A LONG WAYS TOWARDS DOING THAT. 49:47.153 --> 49:50.490 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ, ANYTHING ELSE? 49:50.490 --> 49:57.163 >> I THINK IT'S GRADE THAT WITH MOVE FURTHER IN THAT DIRECTION. 49:57.163 --> 50:07.507 NOW WE JUST NEED THE GET THE COURT OF APPEALS IN THERE JUST 50:07.507 --> 50:08.074 NOW. 50:08.074 --> 50:11.878 >> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO JUDGES, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO 50:11.878 --> 50:14.014 BALANCE ACCESS. 50:14.014 --> 50:18.718 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT JUDGES REALIZE THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE 50:18.718 --> 50:20.920 IN THE WORK THAT WE DO. 50:20.920 --> 50:26.559 IN FACT, I THINK WE CREATE A MORE INFORMED CITIZENRY. 50:26.559 --> 50:31.898 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FRIDAYS REBECCA BOONE TO CLIVE STRONG. 50:31.898 --> 50:37.370 >> MR. STRONG, WHEN SOMEONE IS ON A PANEL OF JUDGES THEY HAVE 50:37.370 --> 50:42.042 TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEIR PIERCE ON THAT PANEL. 50:42.042 --> 50:45.278 I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS WOULD 50:45.278 --> 50:45.945 BE. 50:45.945 --> 50:50.583 YOU'D READ THE BRIEF, HEAR THE ARGUMENTS AND LOOK AT THE CASE 50:50.583 --> 50:51.151 LAW. 50:51.151 --> 50:57.991 >> I WOULD APPROACH IT THE WAY I ROE PROCEEDED MY PRACTICE. 50:57.991 --> 51:04.798 I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN TOM OF THE MOST ASSESSMENT CASES. 51:04.798 --> 51:09.069 THE WAY I APPROACH THAT IS TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN TO ALL THE 51:09.069 --> 51:13.973 PARTIES AND TRY TO FIND A WAY THAT WE COULD FIND COMMON 51:13.973 --> 51:14.541 GROUND. 51:14.541 --> 51:16.876 ON THE SUPREME COURT I WOULD APPROACH IT THE SAME WAY. 51:16.876 --> 51:23.016 THERE ARE FIVE JUSTICES, ALL OF WHOM HAVE THEIR INDEPENDENT 51:23.016 --> 51:24.551 VIEWS. 51:24.551 --> 51:34.828 WE OUGHT TO DISCUSS THEN: YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DISAGREE BUT 51:34.828 --> 51:38.465 DO IT IN AN AGREEABLE FASHION. 51:38.465 --> 51:39.466 >> SENATOR MCKENZIE. 51:39.466 --> 51:40.834 >> I'D SAY SIMILAR. 51:40.834 --> 51:48.008 OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO BE TRUE TO YOUR VIEW OF THE FACTS AND LAW 51:48.008 --> 51:51.678 BEFORE YOU, TRY TO REACH CONSENSUS ON THE ISSUES THAT YOU 51:51.678 --> 51:52.112 CAN. 51:52.112 --> 51:57.017 IF YOU NEED TO DO A SEPARATE CONCURRENCE OR A DESCENT, 51:57.017 --> 52:00.520 OBVIOUSLY YOU DO THAT. 52:00.520 --> 52:06.159 BUT WORKING TOGETHER, TRYING TO DO SO IN A COLLEGIAL MANNER, YOU 52:06.159 --> 52:10.363 KNOW, I TRY TO SEPARATE PERSONALITIES FROM ISSUES. 52:10.363 --> 52:15.335 I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO NAME-CALL THE OTHER JUSTICES 52:15.335 --> 52:18.438 OR CALL OUT PEOPLE WHO COME BEFORE THE COURT. 52:18.438 --> 52:22.976 ONE OF THE JUSTICES I'VELESS ADMIRED FROM HIS INTELLIGENCE 52:22.976 --> 52:32.652 AND PHILOSOPHY, EDYT JUSTICE SKA LEAH, WOULD FOLLOW UP HIS 52:32.652 --> 52:36.389 QUESTIONING OF PEOPLE WITH A SHARP WITH IT. 52:36.389 --> 52:39.025 >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE AN EXCELLENT STUDENT. 52:39.025 --> 52:42.929 WHEN YOU START OUT A NEW JOB OR A NEW ENDEAVOR WITH ANYTHING, 52:42.929 --> 52:47.033 THE FIRST THING YOU'VE GOT DO IS TAKE STOCK, TAKE STOCK OF HOW 52:47.033 --> 52:50.103 THINGS WORK AND THE PEOPLE AND LEARN FROM THERE. 52:50.103 --> 52:56.209 YOU CAN REALLY START TO FLUENT I THINK AND HAVE A LEADING VOTED 52:56.209 --> 52:58.411 IN THE DECISION MAKING. 52:58.411 --> 53:02.582 >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH GOT A HEALTHY 53:02.582 --> 53:03.316 RELATIONSHIPS. 53:03.316 --> 53:08.621 AND A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS SEEING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 53:08.621 --> 53:14.594 JUSTICE GINSBERG AND JUSTICE SKA LEE I CAN'T. 53:14.594 --> 53:18.365 THEY WERE MANY TIMES ON OPPOSITE SIDES BUT THEY RESPECT ONE 53:18.365 --> 53:24.437 ANOTHER WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUES INVOLVED. 53:24.437 --> 53:26.706 >> THAT HOUR FLEW BY QUICKLY! 53:26.706 --> 53:31.177 ROBYN BRODY, PLEASE GIVE YOUR CLOSING REMARKS, YOU'LL HAVE 60 53:31.177 --> 53:31.911 SECONDS. 53:31.911 --> 53:35.648 >> THE BEST PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN IS THAT I HAVE BEEN ALL 53:35.648 --> 53:40.520 OVER THE STATE I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO GO TO PLACES I NEVER 53:40.520 --> 53:42.655 WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE GONE TO. 53:42.655 --> 53:47.460 I MET PEOPLE I NEVER OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE METHOD. 53:47.460 --> 53:52.032 I'VE BEEN FROM PORT HILL AT THE CANADIAN BORDER OVER TO ST. 53:52.032 --> 53:52.732 ANTHONY. 53:52.732 --> 53:56.636 THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO WANT THE SAME THINGS IN A JUDICIARY. 53:56.636 --> 54:00.340 THEY WANT OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE COURTS AND JUSTICES AND JUDGES 54:00.340 --> 54:03.510 WHO APPLY THE LAW FAIRLY AND CONSISTENTLY. 54:03.510 --> 54:06.880 I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE IDAHO SUPREME 54:06.880 --> 54:07.514 COURT. 54:07.514 --> 54:11.685 I KNOW THAT WHEN MEN AND WOMEN WORK TOGETHER THAT WE MAKE 54:11.685 --> 54:12.986 BETTER DECISIONS. 54:12.986 --> 54:15.789 WE GET BETTER RESULTS FOR OUR CLIENTS. 54:15.789 --> 54:19.492 WE'RE BETTER ABLE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO. 54:19.492 --> 54:22.996 I WANT TO THANK THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF IDAHO, BOISE 54:22.996 --> 54:27.167 STATE UNIVERSITY, THE IDAHO PRESS CLUB, AND IDAHO PUBLIC 54:27.167 --> 54:31.638 TELEVISION FOR HELPING TO EDUCATE IDAHO VOTERS AND HELPING 54:31.638 --> 54:36.009 ALL OF US UNDERSTAND THE VITAL ROLE OF THE SUPREME COURT TODAY. 54:36.009 --> 54:38.645 I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE ON MAY 17th. 54:38.645 --> 54:39.813 >> THANKS SO MUCH. 54:39.813 --> 54:41.181 CLIVE STRONG. 54:41.181 --> 54:44.184 >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, THE 54:44.184 --> 54:47.821 IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION AND BSU FOR 54:47.821 --> 54:50.657 PROVIDING THIS FORUM SO WE CAN TALK TO THE VOTERS. 54:50.657 --> 54:53.293 THE ELECTION THAT'S COMING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE AN 54:53.293 --> 54:54.294 IMPORTANT ELECTION. 54:54.294 --> 54:57.397 DURING THE NEXT SIX YEARS THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO 54:57.397 --> 55:01.968 BE CALLED UPON TO DECIDE SERIOUS AND COMPLICATED CONSTITUTIONAL 55:01.968 --> 55:05.872 LAW ISSUES THAT WILL AFFECT THE LAW WAS ALL IDAHOANS. 55:05.872 --> 55:10.610 MY EXPERIENCE IN THESE AREAS WOULD BE INVALUABLE IN DECIDING 55:10.610 --> 55:11.711 THOSE DISPUTES. 55:11.711 --> 55:16.216 WITH MY STATEWIDE PRACTICE EXPERIENCE I WOULD BE ABLE TO 55:16.216 --> 55:19.986 UNDERSTAND THE CULTURAL, ECONOMIC AND GEOGRAPHIC 55:19.986 --> 55:21.621 DIFFERENCES THAT EXIST IN IDAHO. 55:21.621 --> 55:26.059 I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT BOTH UNIT AND DIVIDE IDAHO. 55:26.059 --> 55:35.168 I LOOK FORWARD TO FOSTERING AN INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT AT THE 55:35.168 --> 55:35.635 COURT. 55:35.635 --> 55:39.339 I WOULD NOT ALLOW MY PERSONAL PREFERENCES TO INFLUENCE ANY 55:39.339 --> 55:41.641 DECISIONS AND WOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE ONLY TO THE PEOPLE 55:41.641 --> 55:45.645 OF IDAHO. 55:45.645 --> 55:48.281 REGARDLESS OF THE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES THAT MAY FOLLOW, MY 55:48.281 --> 55:51.718 CAMPAIGN IS BASED UPON GRASS ROOTS SUPPORT AND I WOULD 55:51.718 --> 55:56.189 APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AS WE GO FORWARD. 55:56.189 --> 55:58.558 AND THE VOTE ON MAY 17th. 55:58.558 --> 56:04.230 >> I THINK I BRING A UNIQUE BACKGROUND OF A STRONG ACADEMIC 56:04.230 --> 56:07.967 FOUNDATION, A LONG HISTORY OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND A DIVERSE 56:07.967 --> 56:08.768 LEGAL PRACTICE. 56:08.768 --> 56:12.939 MORE THAN THAT, I BRING A LOVE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO. 56:12.939 --> 56:17.243 I CAME HERE FOR COLLEGE, TO PLAY SOCCER AND TO RUN TRACK. 56:17.243 --> 56:21.614 I STAYED HERE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I WANTED MY FAMILY TO BE. 56:21.614 --> 56:25.518 AND NOW I'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE COURT. 56:25.518 --> 56:29.055 I'M NOT RUNNING AGAIN FOR THE SENATE. 56:29.055 --> 56:31.424 I'VE GIVEN THAT UP. 56:31.424 --> 56:37.230 AND NOW NOT ONLY DO I WANT TO SERVE THE DECISION-MAKING BODY 56:37.230 --> 56:40.433 OF THE COURT BUT TO ADMINISTER THE COURT SYSTEM. 56:40.433 --> 56:45.071 I'VE BEEN AT THE TRIAL COURT LEVEL, BEFORE THE MAGISTRATES OF 56:45.071 --> 56:46.373 THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES. 56:46.373 --> 56:49.442 THAT'S WHERE MOST PEOPLE INTERACT WITH THE COURTS UP 56:49.442 --> 56:50.010 HERE. 56:50.010 --> 56:53.813 I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THEM TO FEEL LIKE IT IS FAIR AND 56:53.813 --> 56:56.016 IMPARTIAL AND I'LL WORK FOR THAT. 56:56.016 --> 56:58.184 THANK YOU. 56:58.184 --> 56:59.953 >> JUDGE GUTIERREZ. 56:59.953 --> 57:03.556 >> THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKING THIS 57:03.556 --> 57:04.224 POSSIBLE. 57:04.224 --> 57:09.129 IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOSE IN THE TV AUDIENCE, IN THE MAY 57:09.129 --> 57:13.667 PRIMARY, WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE SELECTED TO FILL THIS POSITION 57:13.667 --> 57:18.672 IF YOU GET 50% PLUS ONE OF THE VOTES. 57:18.672 --> 57:22.042 IN TERMS OF MY VIEW OF WHAT'S CRITICAL, I THINK IT'S 57:22.042 --> 57:22.676 EXPERIENCE. 57:22.676 --> 57:27.247 AND I BRING A UNIQUE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. 57:27.247 --> 57:33.153 I'VE BEEN AN IMMIGRANT A HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT, FACING MANY 57:33.153 --> 57:36.489 CHALLENGES AND BEING ABLE TO RISE TO THE SECOND HIGHEST COURT 57:36.489 --> 57:37.490 IN OUR STATE. 57:37.490 --> 57:41.995 ALSO BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A JUDGE FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, I THINK 57:41.995 --> 57:43.496 I'M PRETTY WELL TESTED. 57:43.496 --> 57:46.866 YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, THERE'S NO GUESSING. 57:46.866 --> 57:50.103 I WOULD ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR ME ON MAY 17th. 57:50.103 --> 57:52.906 >> ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT. 57:52.906 --> 57:54.541 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 57:54.541 --> 57:58.578 WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS. 58:00.280 --> 58:04.584 * * 58:07.220 --> 58:12.492 Captioning Performed By LNS Captioning www.LNScaptioning.com 58:13.760 --> 58:22.869 * * 58:24.037 --> 58:27.140 >> THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE 58:27.140 --> 58:30.677 IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF IDAHO, BOISE 58:30.677 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