WEBVTT 00:04.871 --> 00:06.906 >>> WELCOME TO IDAHO DEBATES, A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES ON 00:06.906 --> 00:08.708 THE 2014 BALLOT. 00:08.708 --> 00:11.611 THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE 00:11.611 --> 00:16.116 IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE LEAGUE S OF IDAHO, AND IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION. 00:16.116 --> 00:18.451 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY BOISE STATE 00:18.451 --> 00:21.454 UNIVERSITY'S SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SERVICE, DEVOTED TO 00:21.454 --> 00:24.290 BUILDING FUTURE CIVIC AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGH 00:24.290 --> 00:28.194 INTERDISCIPLINARY PROBLEM SOLVING, REAL-WORLD RESEARCH 00:28.194 --> 00:32.198 AND POLICY STUDIES, AND THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE YOU CAN 00:32.198 --> 00:34.634 ONLY GET HERE AT THE STATE CAPITOL. 00:34.634 --> 00:37.203 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU BY 00:37.203 --> 00:39.205 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 00:39.205 --> 00:42.375 THANK YOU. 00:42.375 --> 00:46.146 >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES AT THE IDAHO 00:46.146 --> 00:47.213 PUBLIC TELEVISION STUDIOS. 00:47.213 --> 00:49.416 THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVEN DEBATES WE'RE HOSTING BEFORE 00:49.416 --> 00:51.151 THE NOVEMBER 4th ELECTION. 00:51.151 --> 00:53.486 TONIGHT, THE TWO CANDIDATES FOR SECRETARY OF STATE TAKE 00:53.486 --> 00:57.057 THE STAGE TO ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. 00:57.057 --> 00:59.959 THE SECRETARY OF STATE ADMINISTERS THE ELECTION LAWS, 00:59.959 --> 01:01.961 COMPILES AND PUBLISHES THE ELECTION CALENDAR, AND 01:01.961 --> 01:02.862 CERTIFIES VOTES. 01:02.862 --> 01:04.964 THE OFFICE ALSO ADMINISTERS THE SUNSHINE LAW FOR CAMPAIGN 01:04.964 --> 01:07.167 FINANCE AND LOBBYIST ACTIVITY DISCLOSURE. 01:07.167 --> 01:09.336 THE SECRETARY OF STATE HANDLES TRADEMARKS, FINANCING 01:09.336 --> 01:13.440 STATEMENTS, AND OTHER BUSINESS DOCUMENTS, AND HAS 01:13.440 --> 01:14.507 A SEAT ON THE LAND BOARD. 01:14.507 --> 01:16.810 I WANT TO WELCOME CANDIDATES LAWERENCE DENNEY AND HOLLI 01:16.810 --> 01:18.345 WOODINGS. 01:18.345 --> 01:20.714 REPRESENTATIVE LAWERENCE DENNEY HAS SERVED A TOTAL OF 01:20.714 --> 01:23.283 10 TERMS IN THE IDAHO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 01:23.283 --> 01:25.385 HE SERVED AS ASSISTANT MAJORITY LEADER, MAJORITY 01:25.385 --> 01:27.887 LEADER, AND THREE TERMS AS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. 01:27.887 --> 01:30.724 REPRESENTATIVE HOLLI WOODINGS HAS SERVED ONE TERM IN THE 01:30.724 --> 01:32.092 IDAHO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 01:32.092 --> 01:35.362 SHE SERVED ON THE STATE AFFAIRS, ENERGY, AND 01:35.362 --> 01:37.664 ENVIRONMENT AND TECHNOLOGY, AND COMMERCIAL AND HUMAN 01:37.664 --> 01:38.832 RESOURCE COMMITTEES. 01:38.832 --> 01:40.734 I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS WHO WILL 01:40.734 --> 01:41.735 ASK THE CANDIDATES QUESTIONS. 01:41.735 --> 01:44.004 BETSY RUSSELL WITH "THE SPOKESMAN REVIEW." 01:44.004 --> 01:45.939 SCOTT GRAF WITH THE BOISE STATE PUBLIC RADIO, AND 01:45.939 --> 01:48.675 KIMBERLEE KRUESI WITH "THE ASSOCIATED PRESS." 01:48.675 --> 01:51.911 I'M MELISSA DAVLIN, COHOST OF "IDAHO REPORTS" HERE ON 01:51.911 --> 01:53.680 IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION. 01:53.680 --> 01:54.781 I'M MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE. 01:54.781 --> 01:57.684 TO REMIND THE CANDIDATES HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN TALKING IS 01:57.684 --> 01:59.853 RICHARD McBRIDE, VOLUNTEER TIMEKEEPER FROM THE LEAGUE OF 01:59.853 --> 02:01.154 WOMEN VOTERS. 02:01.154 --> 02:04.157 EACH CANDIDATE WILL BE GIVEN ONE MINUTE FOR OPENING 02:04.157 --> 02:06.159 COMMENTS, AND 90 SECONDS FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS. 02:06.159 --> 02:08.228 WE FLIPPED A COIN A FEW MINUTES AGO TO SEE WHO WOULD 02:08.228 --> 02:10.330 GO FIRST. 02:10.330 --> 02:12.732 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 02:12.732 --> 02:16.636 THANK YOU TO IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION, LEAGUE OF WOMEN 02:16.636 --> 02:22.108 VOTERS, IDAHO PRESS CLUB AND BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY. 02:22.108 --> 02:26.446 I'M HOLLI WOODINGS -- THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, 02:26.446 --> 02:27.180 IMPORTANT MISSION. 02:27.180 --> 02:29.649 NO OTHER STATE OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE 02:29.649 --> 02:32.185 PUBLIC TRUST IN SUCH A FUNDAMENTAL WAY. 02:32.185 --> 02:36.122 OUR ELECTIONS ARE CRITICAL TO ENSURE OUR VOICES OUR HEARD. 02:36.122 --> 02:39.459 THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THE ELECTION PROCESS SHOULD NOT BE 02:39.459 --> 02:44.197 TAINTED BY EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF SELF-SERVING POLITICS. 02:44.197 --> 02:48.001 FROM THE TIME YOU REGISTER TO VOTE UNTIL THE TIME YOUR VOTE 02:48.001 --> 02:51.771 IS COUNTED, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO TRUST OUR ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN 02:51.771 --> 02:56.042 CONDUCTED IN AN EVEN-HANDED, FAIR, AND HONEST WAY. 02:56.042 --> 02:59.145 AS YOUR SECRETARY OF STATE, MY FIRST PRIORITY WILL BE TO 02:59.145 --> 03:02.248 MAINTAIN YOUR TRUST IN ELECTIONS, IT IS WHAT YOU HAVE 03:02.248 --> 03:02.982 COME TO EXPECT. 03:02.982 --> 03:04.517 IT'S WHAT YOU DESERVE. 03:04.517 --> 03:09.689 AND IT'S MY PROMISE TO YOU AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 03:09.689 --> 03:10.423 THANK YOU. 03:10.423 --> 03:11.624 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 03:11.624 --> 03:15.495 >> I, TOO, WANT TO THANK THE PRESS CLUB, LEAGUE OF WOMEN 03:15.495 --> 03:21.001 VOTERS, IDAHO PUBLIC TV AND BSU. 03:21.001 --> 03:25.705 AS A LIFE-LONG IDAHOAN, WITH EXPERIENCE AS A FARMER, A 03:25.705 --> 03:29.175 MINER, A LOGGER, AND BUSINESSMAN, I UNDERSTAND 03:29.175 --> 03:29.642 IDAHO. 03:29.642 --> 03:32.645 I WILL LEAVE MY PARTISANSHIP AT THE DOOR. 03:32.645 --> 03:35.915 I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS CAN BE 03:35.915 --> 03:42.288 DONE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR PREDECESSORS, PETE CENARRUSA. 03:42.288 --> 03:45.125 HE WAS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PETE 03:45.125 --> 03:46.359 WAS A PARTISAN. 03:46.359 --> 03:50.296 AND I BELIEVE THAT I CAN FOLLOW IN THOSE FOOTSTEPS AND I CAN 03:50.296 --> 03:53.133 LEAVE MY PARTISANSHIP AT THE DOOR. 03:53.133 --> 03:56.903 I WILL WORK JUST AS MY PREDECESSORS HAVE TO SAFEGUARD 03:56.903 --> 04:01.074 THE INTEGRITY OF THE OFFICE, FURTHERING THE LEGACY OF 04:01.074 --> 04:04.678 TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS SO INTEGRAL TO THE MISSION OF 04:04.678 --> 04:05.512 SECRETARY OF STATE. 04:05.512 --> 04:10.850 I RESPECT IDAHO'S LAND, AND THE VALUE IT BRINGS TO OUR GREAT 04:10.850 --> 04:11.217 STATE. 04:11.217 --> 04:14.988 IN MY ROLE ON THE LAND BOARD, I WILL WORK TO GET THE LAND BOARD 04:14.988 --> 04:19.693 OUT OF COMPETITION WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS, WHILE MAXIMIZING THE 04:19.693 --> 04:22.162 RETURNS FOR THE STATE ENDOWMENTS. 04:22.162 --> 04:22.595 THANK YOU. 04:22.595 --> 04:23.096 >> ALL RIGHT. 04:23.096 --> 04:23.997 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 04:23.997 --> 04:27.801 AND THE FIRST QUESTION GOES TO REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY FROM 04:27.801 --> 04:29.336 BETSY RUSSELL. 04:29.336 --> 04:31.805 >> NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR OPPONENT HAVE EVER WORKED IN 04:31.805 --> 04:35.642 THE COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE OR IN THE STATE SECRETARY OF 04:35.642 --> 04:38.078 STATE'S OFFICE. 04:38.078 --> 04:44.451 YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE LIKE YSURSA DID WHEN HE WAS 04:44.451 --> 04:46.720 ELECTED TO THIS POSITION. 04:46.720 --> 04:50.657 SO, WHY SHOULD THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO TRUST YOU IN THAT 04:50.657 --> 04:51.091 POSITION? 04:51.091 --> 04:54.361 >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 04:54.361 --> 04:57.030 AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF 04:57.030 --> 04:59.499 EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING AN ELECTION. 04:59.499 --> 05:02.035 I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF 05:02.035 --> 05:04.237 EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING ELECTIONS. 05:04.237 --> 05:10.310 WE HAVE 44 COUNTY CLERKS THAT DO HAVE EXPERIENCE, WE ALSO 05:10.310 --> 05:13.847 HAVE THE STAFF AT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE THAT KNOW 05:13.847 --> 05:17.784 WHAT'S GOING ON, AND WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO REMAIN ON. 05:17.784 --> 05:22.055 I THINK -- THINK THAT IS THE CRITICAL PART. 05:22.055 --> 05:25.859 HIRING GOOD STAFF AND TRUSTING THE COUNTY CLERKS TO DO THE JOB 05:25.859 --> 05:29.996 THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. 05:29.996 --> 05:33.967 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, SAME QUESTION. 05:33.967 --> 05:36.369 >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. 05:36.369 --> 05:39.272 THE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, 05:39.272 --> 05:41.875 CHALK FULL OF EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. 05:41.875 --> 05:45.011 EMPLOYEES OF THAT OFFICE HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB FOR MANY 05:45.011 --> 05:45.645 YEARS. 05:45.645 --> 05:50.283 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THEIR ENTHUSIASM 05:50.283 --> 05:52.719 SHOULD I WIN THIS RACE AND STAY IN THE OFFICE. 05:52.719 --> 05:55.655 SO, I THINK THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 05:55.655 --> 05:57.657 THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT I SERVE ON THE 05:57.657 --> 06:01.961 STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND THAT IS WITH ARE WE OVERSEE THE 06:01.961 --> 06:03.296 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. 06:03.296 --> 06:05.765 EVERY BIT OF LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTS THE OFFICE AND ALL OF 06:05.765 --> 06:07.867 THE RULES COME THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE. 06:07.867 --> 06:11.771 I HAVE BECOME VERY CLOSELY AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT THE 06:11.771 --> 06:14.941 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE DOES AND THE MANY CHALLENGES 06:14.941 --> 06:17.777 AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE OFFICE HAS IN THE YEARS TO 06:17.777 --> 06:18.311 COME. 06:18.311 --> 06:19.045 >> FOLLOW-UP. 06:19.045 --> 06:22.148 >> I DO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP FOR BOTH CANDIDATES BASED ON YOUR 06:22.148 --> 06:22.682 ANSWER. 06:22.682 --> 06:25.418 YOU BOTH TALKED ABOUT KEEPING THE STAFF THAT IS NOW IN PLACE 06:25.418 --> 06:29.089 IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. 06:29.089 --> 06:31.424 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, REALISTICY, YOU WOULD BE THE 06:31.424 --> 06:33.727 FIRST DEMOCRAT IN THIS OFFICE SINCE 1967. 06:33.727 --> 06:39.599 ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT ANXIETY OR MAYBE EVEN DECENT AMONG 06:39.599 --> 06:42.335 STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED ONLY WITH REPUBLICANS -- 06:42.335 --> 06:44.537 >> I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE OFFICE OVER THE PAST 06:44.537 --> 06:47.374 SEVERAL MONTHS AND GETTING TO KNOW THE FOLKS WHO WORK THERE 06:47.374 --> 06:47.607 NOW. 06:47.607 --> 06:49.542 I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AT ALL. 06:49.542 --> 06:59.586 ACTUALLY I THINK THEY'RE A HIGHLY NONPARTISAN BUNCH. 06:59.586 --> 07:02.022 -- I DON'T SEE A CONCERN WITH THAT AT ALL. 07:02.022 --> 07:04.391 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, YOU SAID REPEATEDLY THAT MOST OF 07:04.391 --> 07:07.193 THE STAFF IN THIS OFFICE CAN'T BE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY'RE 07:07.193 --> 07:09.662 CLASSIFIED STATE EMPLOYEES WHOSE JOBS ARE PROTECTED. 07:09.662 --> 07:13.333 ALL EMPLOYEES OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SERVE AT THE 07:13.333 --> 07:14.401 OFFICIAL'S PLEASURE. 07:14.401 --> 07:17.337 KNOWING THAT, DO YOU STILL PROMISE, IF ELECTED, TO FOLLOW 07:17.337 --> 07:20.140 THE LONG TRADITION OF KEEPING THE STAFF IN PLACE IN THE 07:20.140 --> 07:21.241 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE? 07:21.241 --> 07:22.609 >> ABSOLUTELY. 07:22.609 --> 07:25.879 I THINK FOR CONTINUITY OF THE OFFICE, I THINK KEEPING THAT 07:25.879 --> 07:29.716 STAFF IN PLACE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE CRITICAL THINGS THAT 07:29.716 --> 07:32.786 YOU HAVE TO DO. 07:32.786 --> 07:37.157 CERTAINLY I AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE STAFF WHEN I FIRST GET 07:37.157 --> 07:37.490 THERE. 07:37.490 --> 07:40.794 YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME RETIREMENTS. 07:40.794 --> 07:44.497 IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE WILL GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE 07:44.497 --> 07:48.268 CHIEF DEPUTY AND WE WILL TRY TO REPLACE THEM WITH WELL 07:48.268 --> 07:50.537 QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. 07:50.537 --> 07:51.438 >> ALL RIGHT. 07:51.438 --> 07:54.341 NEXT QUESTION IS REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY FROM SCOTT GRAF. 07:54.341 --> 07:56.376 >> THANK YOU. 07:56.376 --> 07:59.946 REPRESENTATIVE, AT WHAT POINT DOES FRAUD PREVENTION OBSTRUCT 07:59.946 --> 08:03.283 THE CITIZENS RIGHT TO VOTE, LEGITIMATE VOTE? 08:03.283 --> 08:07.654 >> SCOTT, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY TIME THAT FRAUD 08:07.654 --> 08:12.392 PREVENTION OBSTRUCTS A RIGHT TO VOTE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE 08:12.392 --> 08:17.297 HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELECTIONS ARE HONEST AND FAIR 08:17.297 --> 08:19.566 AND THAT THERE IS NO FRAUD. 08:19.566 --> 08:23.603 I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT 08:23.603 --> 08:30.143 DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO AS 08:30.143 --> 08:31.044 SECRETARY OF STATE. 08:31.044 --> 08:33.680 >> NEXT QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS FROM 08:33.680 --> 08:34.614 SCOTT GRAF. 08:34.614 --> 08:40.153 >> AT WHAT POINT DOES CONVENIENCE AND EASE OF VOTING 08:40.153 --> 08:42.589 COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF AN ELECTION? 08:42.589 --> 08:44.591 >> WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 08:44.591 --> 08:49.963 I TALK A LOT ABOUT CONVENIENCE AND INCREASING ACCESS TO THE 08:49.963 --> 08:50.430 POLLS. 08:50.430 --> 08:54.434 AND WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT SYSTEM IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT 08:54.434 --> 08:57.737 SECURES THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS, AND THAT IS THROUGH 08:57.737 --> 08:58.838 OUR COUNTY CLERKS. 08:58.838 --> 09:02.909 THEY DO A TREMENDOUS JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR ELECTIONS 09:02.909 --> 09:05.378 ARE COMPOSED IN A SECURE WAY. 09:05.378 --> 09:08.948 MY OPPONENT, ON THE OTHER HAND, DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S 09:08.948 --> 09:13.119 TRUE AND HAS ACTUALLY PROPOSED THAT WE START TAKING 09:13.119 --> 09:16.222 FINGERSPRINTS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE'S IDENTITY 09:16.222 --> 09:17.590 AT THE POLLS. 09:17.590 --> 09:20.493 I THINK THAT IS AN INFRINGEMENT OF PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND 09:20.493 --> 09:22.662 SOMETHING THAT IDAHOANS AREN'T WILLING TO DO. 09:22.662 --> 09:26.666 I WOULD OPPOSE ANY EFFORT TO PUT ADDITIONAL BARRIERS IN 09:26.666 --> 09:29.235 BETWEEN VOTERS AND THEIR BALLOTS. 09:29.235 --> 09:31.204 >> IF I MIGHT RESPOND TO THAT, I THINK -- 09:31.204 --> 09:32.405 >> PLEASE, DO. 09:32.405 --> 09:37.677 >> I THINK THAT WHILE I DID SAY FINGERPRINTS IN A GUEST 09:37.677 --> 09:41.414 EDITORIAL, CERTAINLY I WAS NOT IN -- THAT WE SHOULD 09:41.414 --> 09:43.316 FINGERPRINT ALL VOTERS BEFORE THEY VOTE. 09:43.316 --> 09:46.786 I WAS TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY THAT IS AVAILABLE, AND THE SAME 09:46.786 --> 09:51.324 TECHNOLOGY FOR SCANNING SIGNATURES AND FOR SCANNING 09:51.324 --> 09:52.525 FINGERPRINTS IS THE SAME. 09:52.525 --> 09:57.497 AND I THINK ONCE YOU SCAN A SIGNATURE, YOU KNOW THAT THE 09:57.497 --> 10:01.801 PERSON WHO IS VOTING IS THE PERSON WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE. 10:01.801 --> 10:05.538 I WILL NOT GIVE UP THE SECURITY OF THE BALLOT FOR CONVENIENCE. 10:05.538 --> 10:07.907 >> CAN I RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE? 10:07.907 --> 10:08.708 >> PLEASE DO. 10:08.708 --> 10:12.812 >> WE CURRENTLY USE SIGNATURE SCANNING IN OUR ELECTIONS, THAT 10:12.812 --> 10:16.883 IS AN INTERESTING TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ALREADY USE TO SECURE 10:16.883 --> 10:18.818 THE INTEGRITY OF OUR BALLOTS. 10:18.818 --> 10:20.653 >> AND MAY I RESPOND AGAIN? 10:20.653 --> 10:21.454 >> PLEASE DO. 10:21.454 --> 10:25.925 >> WE DO USE THAT TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE SCAN THE SIGNATURES AND 10:25.925 --> 10:29.829 IT IS MANUALLY COMPARED WITH THE WRITTEN SIGNATURE ON THE 10:29.829 --> 10:30.196 CARDS. 10:30.196 --> 10:35.735 WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY NOW TO SCAN THOSE AND ELECTRONICALLY 10:35.735 --> 10:38.405 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE CORRECT. 10:38.405 --> 10:39.372 >> A FOLLOW-UP. 10:39.372 --> 10:43.043 >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SAME-DAY REGISTRATION. 10:43.043 --> 10:48.648 IDAHO IS ONE OF A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT HAS SAME-DAY 10:48.648 --> 10:49.582 REGISTRATIONS. 10:49.582 --> 10:51.384 CURIOUS TO HEAR BOTH YOUR OPINIONS ON THAT PROCESS, IF 10:51.384 --> 10:54.054 YOU LIKE IT, WHY YOU DO OR DON'T AND IF YOU ARE ELECTED DO 10:54.054 --> 10:56.589 YOU PLAN TO KEEP IT IN PLACE? 10:56.589 --> 10:58.158 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, PLEASE. 10:58.158 --> 11:00.060 >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 11:00.060 --> 11:03.229 YOU KNOW, I THINK SAME-DAY REGISTRATION IS ONE OF THOSE 11:03.229 --> 11:07.434 THINGS THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE STATE OF IDAHO HAD THE 11:07.434 --> 11:12.906 CHOICE TO EITHER GO TO SAME-DAY REGISTRATION OR GO TO 11:12.906 --> 11:15.809 MOTOR-VOTER, WHICH YOU ARE REGISTERED WHEN YOU GO TO THE 11:15.809 --> 11:20.880 DMV OR WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR FOOD STAMPS OR THE LIKE. 11:20.880 --> 11:25.018 SAME-DAY REGISTRATION I THINK AT TIMES OVERWHELMS THE SYSTEM. 11:25.018 --> 11:27.554 I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND 11:27.554 --> 11:30.023 REGISTER TO VOTE ON THE SAME DAY. 11:30.023 --> 11:43.269 IN 2008, THERE WERE OVER 40,000 SAME-DAY REJ STRANTS, AND I 11:43.269 --> 11:46.206 THOUGHT SOMEONE SHOULD CHECK OUT THOSE REGISTRATIONS AND I 11:46.206 --> 11:50.310 ASKED FOR A COPY TO SEND AN INTERN OUT TO CHECK OUT THE 11:50.310 --> 11:50.844 ADDRESSES. 11:50.844 --> 11:53.013 THAT WAS IN JANUARY OF 2009. 11:53.013 --> 11:56.383 I DIDN'T GET THAT LIST UNTIL MARCH. 11:56.383 --> 11:58.251 THAT'S FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE ELECTION. 11:58.251 --> 12:03.990 AND I THINK THERE IS SOME WAYS THAT FRAUD CAN BE PERPETUATED 12:03.990 --> 12:09.329 IN NOT HAVING THAT DONE INSTANTANEOUS 12:09.329 --> 12:09.696 INSTANTANEOUSLY. 12:09.696 --> 12:10.330 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 12:10.330 --> 12:11.097 >> THANK YOU. 12:11.097 --> 12:15.535 I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT -- VOTES THE REGISTRATION BILL THAT I 12:15.535 --> 12:18.638 PROPOSED IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 12:18.638 --> 12:23.643 -- ON THIS MATTER, IN 2007, IN A "NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED, HE 12:23.643 --> 12:26.713 SAID THE SAME DAY VOTER REGISTRATION IS A GREAT 12:26.713 --> 12:28.915 CONVENIENCE FOR IDAHO VOTERS. 12:28.915 --> 12:32.252 IT DOES STILL ENSURE THE SANCTITY OF THE BALLOT AND IT 12:32.252 --> 12:35.555 GIVES THAT EXTRA LEVEL OF CONVENIENCE TO THE VOTERS OF 12:35.555 --> 12:36.289 IDAHO. 12:36.289 --> 12:39.192 SO, I VERY MUCH SUPPORT SAME-DAY VOTER REGISTRATION. 12:39.192 --> 12:43.196 IT ACTUALLY SHOWS IN STATES THAT HAVE IT AN INCREASE OF 10 12:43.196 --> 12:46.733 TO 12% IN PARTICIPATION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I VERY 12:46.733 --> 12:47.567 MUCH SUPPORT. 12:47.567 --> 12:51.037 >> AND -- >> A QUICK FOLLOW-UP. 12:51.037 --> 12:54.541 >> ARE YOU SAYING IF ELECTED, YOU WOULD DO AWAY WITH SAME-DAY 12:54.541 --> 12:55.642 REGISTRATION IN IDAHO? 12:55.642 --> 12:56.743 >> ACTUALLY, NO. 12:56.743 --> 12:58.945 THAT IS A POLICY DECISION, BETSY. 12:58.945 --> 13:03.350 IF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR DECIDED TO DO THAT, WE 13:03.350 --> 13:04.784 WOULD ENFORCE THE LAW. 13:04.784 --> 13:07.687 BUT I AM NOT ADVOCATING THAT AT ALL. 13:07.687 --> 13:08.788 >> THE NEXT QUESTION. 13:08.788 --> 13:10.223 THE NEXT FOLLOW-UP. 13:10.223 --> 13:12.692 >> A QUICK FOLLOW-UP HERE. 13:12.692 --> 13:16.796 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE HAS ONE OF THE SMALLEST BUDGETS OUT 13:16.796 --> 13:19.733 OF IDAHO'S SEVEN STATEWIDE ELECTED POSITIONS. 13:19.733 --> 13:24.337 HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE SPENT FOR ENHANCING SECURITY 13:24.337 --> 13:27.707 FOR -- >> I THINK THAT IS A CASE THAT 13:27.707 --> 13:30.877 HAS TO BE MADE BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. 13:30.877 --> 13:34.080 AND CERTAINLY IF WE CAN FIND THE TECHNOLOGY AND IT IS AT A 13:34.080 --> 13:36.649 REASONABLE PRICE, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE 13:36.649 --> 13:37.450 SHOULD DO. 13:37.450 --> 13:38.718 I'M ALL ABOUT SECURITY. 13:38.718 --> 13:44.124 I THINK THAT THE MORE SECURITY THAT WE HAVE, THE MORE 13:44.124 --> 13:47.660 CONFIDENCE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF IDAHO WOULD PLACE 13:47.660 --> 13:48.828 IN THEIR ELECTIONS. 13:48.828 --> 13:50.730 >> I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT. 13:50.730 --> 13:52.899 OUR ELECTIONS ARE ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTIES. 13:52.899 --> 13:55.201 MUCH OF THAT EXPENSE GOES DOWN TO THE COUNTY LEVEL. 13:55.201 --> 13:59.305 WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR COUNTIES ARE EXTREMELY CASH STRAPPED. 13:59.305 --> 14:02.876 ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS WOULD HAVE TO BE CAREFULLY MEASURED 14:02.876 --> 14:05.245 AGAINST THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT OUR COUNTIES CAN BRING IN 14:05.245 --> 14:06.479 TO PAY FOR THEM. 14:06.479 --> 14:09.516 THEY ALREADY HAVE CHALLENGES WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL 14:09.516 --> 14:12.252 TECHNOLOGY AT THE POLLS, SUCH AS COST AND TRAINING POLL 14:12.252 --> 14:17.323 WORKERS TO USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. 14:17.323 --> 14:20.960 I WOULD TRED VERY LIGHTLY IN PASSING DOWN ANY KIND OF NEW 14:20.960 --> 14:22.996 REQUIREMENT AT THE POLLING PLACES. 14:22.996 --> 14:27.267 >> I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE WANT THE ENHANCED SECURITY, THAT WE 14:27.267 --> 14:32.439 CAN GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, BUDGET PROCESS, AND 14:32.439 --> 14:35.909 ACTUALLY ASK -- TO APPROPRIATE MONEY TO DO THIS TECHNOLOGY, 14:35.909 --> 14:39.079 AND IF WE CAN MAKE THE CASE, I THINK THAT WILL BE DONE. 14:39.079 --> 14:43.717 I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE AN ADDED BURDEN ON THE COUNTIES. 14:43.717 --> 14:46.386 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, WHICH DO YOU THINK WOULD BE 14:46.386 --> 14:50.357 WORSE, FOR SOMEONE TO FRAUDULENTLY CAST A VOTE OR FOR 14:50.357 --> 14:54.027 SOMEONE WHO IS LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO VOTE TO BE TURNED 14:54.027 --> 14:54.561 AWAY? 14:54.561 --> 14:57.764 >> YOU KNOW, BETSY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN THIS STATE AND THAT'S 14:57.764 --> 15:01.468 THAT WE HAVE VERY LOW VOTER REGISTRATION AMONG THOSE WHO 15:01.468 --> 15:02.469 ARE REGISTERED. 15:02.469 --> 15:05.038 WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH VOTER FRAUD. 15:05.038 --> 15:07.974 WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLVING A PROBLEM, WE SHOULD BE SOLVING 15:07.974 --> 15:10.043 THE ISSUE OF PARTICIPATION. 15:10.043 --> 15:12.879 NOT LOOKING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST. 15:12.879 --> 15:19.085 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 15:19.085 --> 15:24.257 >> REPRESENTATIVE, YESTERDAY AT THE CITY CLUB OF BOISE DEBATE, 15:24.257 --> 15:27.260 YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO INCREASE VOTER PARTICIPATION BUT YOU 15:27.260 --> 15:31.598 CALLED FOR DOING AWAY WITH PRIMARY ELECTIONS IN IDAHO AND 15:31.598 --> 15:37.704 LETTING POLITICAL PARTIES HANDLE THEIR OWN PROCESS -- NOT 15:37.704 --> 15:40.874 AFFILIATED WITH ANY PARTY, HOW IS THIS GOING TO INCREASE VOTER 15:40.874 --> 15:43.643 PARTICIPATION TO LET VOTERS HAVE A SAY ONLY IN THE GENERAL 15:43.643 --> 15:46.513 ELECTION AND NOT ALSO IN THE PRIMARY? 15:46.513 --> 15:49.649 >> I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I SAID IN DOING AWAY WITH 15:49.649 --> 15:51.117 PRIMARY ELECTIONS. 15:51.117 --> 15:55.388 CERTAINLY I DO BELIEVE THAT A PRIMARY ELECTION IS NOT 15:55.388 --> 15:57.657 NECESSARILY AN ELECTION AT ALL. 15:57.657 --> 15:59.225 IT IS A NOMINATION PROCESS. 15:59.225 --> 16:04.297 AND IT IS A PARTY NOMINATION PROCESS, AND I THINK THAT THE 16:04.297 --> 16:09.035 PARTIES DESERVE TO CHOOSE THEIR OWN CANDIDATES, AND AS FAR AS 16:09.035 --> 16:12.839 THOSE WHO ARE UNAFFILIATED, I THINK IF THEY -- IF THEY WANT 16:12.839 --> 16:18.678 TO HELP CHOOSE A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, THEN THEY CAN 16:18.678 --> 16:22.248 REGISTER AS A REPUBLICAN AND VOTE IN OUR PRIMARY. 16:22.248 --> 16:25.051 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 16:25.051 --> 16:26.052 >> YES, THANK YOU. 16:26.052 --> 16:31.524 WE HAVE EXTREMELY LOW VOTER TURNOUT IN THE LAST PRIMARY, 16:31.524 --> 16:32.792 SOME AS LOW AS 16%. 16:32.792 --> 16:36.429 THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER PUT UP BETWEEN VOTERS OF IDAHO 16:36.429 --> 16:39.165 AND THEIR BALLOT AND I WOULD OPPOSE ANY SUCH EFFORT. 16:39.165 --> 16:42.102 >> IF I MIGHT RESPOND. 16:42.102 --> 16:45.538 THE VOTER TURNOUT IN THE LAST ELECTION WAS A LITTLE BIT 16:45.538 --> 16:48.441 HIGHER THAN THE LAST 10-YEAR AVERAGE. 16:48.441 --> 16:52.712 AND THE ELECTION BEFORE THAT, THERE WAS ALSO A CLOSE PRIMARY, 16:52.712 --> 16:54.881 A LITTLE BIT BELOW. 16:54.881 --> 16:58.918 SO, IF THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANY 16:58.918 --> 17:01.221 CORRELATION BETWEEN VOTER TURNOUT AND WHETHER YOU HAVE AN 17:01.221 --> 17:03.223 OPEN OR A CLOSED PRIMARY. 17:03.223 --> 17:05.225 >> BETSY WITH A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. 17:05.225 --> 17:08.028 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, YOU SAID A PRIMARY ISN'T REALLY AN 17:08.028 --> 17:08.695 ELECTION. 17:08.695 --> 17:09.863 IT IS A NOMINATION PROCESS. 17:09.863 --> 17:12.399 I BELIEVE YOU ALSO SAID THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO DO IT THAN 17:12.399 --> 17:13.233 HOW WE DO IT NOW. 17:13.233 --> 17:16.403 HOW WOULD YOU SEE THE PARTIES DOING IT IF NOT THROUGH A 17:16.403 --> 17:17.337 PRIMARY ELECTION? 17:17.337 --> 17:20.974 >> YOU KNOW, I -- WE HAVE A LONG TRADITION OF HAVING THE 17:20.974 --> 17:22.876 PRIMARY AND HAVING THE BALLOT. 17:22.876 --> 17:26.880 WHAT I -- WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING THE TAXPAYERS 17:26.880 --> 17:33.520 OF THE STATE OF IDAHO ACTUALLY PAYING FOR A PARTY NOMINATION 17:33.520 --> 17:33.987 PROCESS. 17:33.987 --> 17:39.859 >> AND THE NEXT QUESTION FROM KIMBERLEE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 17:39.859 --> 17:40.326 WOODINGS. 17:40.326 --> 17:43.430 >> WHY SHOULDN'T POLITICAL PARTIES BE THE ONES THAT CHOOSE 17:43.430 --> 17:45.899 THEIR OWN CANDIDATES DURING THE PRIMARY? 17:45.899 --> 17:50.236 >> WELL, POLITICAL PARTIES ARE THE ONES WHO CHOOSE THEIR OWN 17:50.236 --> 17:52.806 CANDIDATE AND WE DID THAT THROUGH THE PRIMARY ELECTION 17:52.806 --> 17:53.440 PROCESS. 17:53.440 --> 17:55.108 I SUPPORT PRIMARY ELECTIONS. 17:55.108 --> 17:57.744 I BELIEVE IF THEY'RE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO ALL OF THE VOTERS 17:57.744 --> 18:00.480 OF IDAHO TO CHOOSE WHICH PRIMARY THEY WOULD LIKE TO VOTE 18:00.480 --> 18:05.018 IN, THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE 18:05.018 --> 18:06.486 ADMINISTERING AT THE STATE. 18:06.486 --> 18:09.956 >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND TOUCH ON SOMETHING THAT 18:09.956 --> 18:10.757 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY SAID. 18:10.757 --> 18:12.025 IT IS A NOMINATING PROCESS. 18:12.025 --> 18:16.463 IN A ONE-PARTY STATE, ISN'T A PRIMARY SYSTEM, ESSENTIALLY THE 18:16.463 --> 18:19.399 ELECTION, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ELECTED IN 18:19.399 --> 18:24.237 MAY OF THIS YEAR WILL GO ON AND QUITE FRANKLY WIN HANDILY IN 18:24.237 --> 18:25.405 THE NEXT MONTH? 18:25.405 --> 18:27.207 >> ACTUALLY, NO, IT IS NOT. 18:27.207 --> 18:28.942 AND THAT IS NOT THE ELECTION. 18:28.942 --> 18:31.611 THE ACTUAL ELECTION IS IN NOVEMBER. 18:31.611 --> 18:34.881 AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO HELP CHOOSE THE CANDIDATE FOR THE 18:34.881 --> 18:38.418 PARTIES THEY NEED TO BE A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN OR A 18:38.418 --> 18:40.687 REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, IN MY OPINION. 18:40.687 --> 18:42.856 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 18:42.856 --> 18:43.890 >> THANK YOU. 18:43.890 --> 18:47.360 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 18:47.360 --> 18:50.997 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, JUST 26% OF IDAHO'S REGISTERED 18:50.997 --> 18:54.734 VOTERS PARTICIPATED IN THIS YEAR'S PRIMARY ELECTION, AS 18:54.734 --> 18:57.370 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY MENTIONED, SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN 18:57.370 --> 19:01.207 THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT JUST SLIGHTLY, 74% VOTED IN THE LAST 19:01.207 --> 19:05.679 GENERAL ELECTION, FEWER THAN 60% VOTED IN THE 2010 GENERAL 19:05.679 --> 19:06.546 ELECTION. 19:06.546 --> 19:07.647 ARE THESE NUMBERS HIGH ENOUGH? 19:07.647 --> 19:10.650 DO YOU BELIEVE MORE IDAHOANS SHOULD BE VOTING AND IF SO, HOW 19:10.650 --> 19:13.119 WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE MORE VOTER TURNOUT? 19:13.119 --> 19:15.588 >> WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING NUMBER THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, 19:15.588 --> 19:16.056 BETSY. 19:16.056 --> 19:19.025 PEOPLE ARE MORE EXCITED DURING PRESIDENTIAL YEARS TO GET OUT 19:19.025 --> 19:19.693 AND VOTE. 19:19.693 --> 19:22.962 AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE I VOTE IN ALL OF 19:22.962 --> 19:25.699 THE ELECTIONS WHETHER THEY'RE PRESIDENTIAL OR NOT. 19:25.699 --> 19:27.767 I THINK WE HAVE A JOB TO DO AS A STATE. 19:27.767 --> 19:31.604 AND THAT'S TO GET PEOPLE MORE ENGAGED IN ELECTIONS. 19:31.604 --> 19:36.242 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YESTERDAY I RELEASED iPHONE AND ANDROID APP 19:36.242 --> 19:38.411 THAT WILL GIVE YOU A VOTER GUIDE. 19:38.411 --> 19:39.079 IT'S MOBILE. 19:39.079 --> 19:40.780 YOU CAN PICK YOUR FAVORITES. 19:40.780 --> 19:43.249 YOU CAN BRING THAT TO THE POLLING BOOTH. 19:43.249 --> 19:46.152 ALREADY I HAVE HAD FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS IS 19:46.152 --> 19:47.620 EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE NEEDED. 19:47.620 --> 19:50.690 THOSE TYPES OF EFFORTS THAT ARE PRETTY LOW COST, VERY EASY FOR 19:50.690 --> 19:54.594 PEOPLE TO ACCESS IN THE WAYS THAT THEY CURRENTLY ACCESS 19:54.594 --> 19:58.064 INFORMATION, THAT I THINK CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE AND GET THEM 19:58.064 --> 19:58.598 TURNED OUT. 19:58.598 --> 20:00.967 BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'RE 20:00.967 --> 20:04.604 MISSING IN THIS STATE IS, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION, PEOPLE WANT TO 20:04.604 --> 20:07.640 KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE ON THEIR BALLOT AND WHAT THOSE 20:07.640 --> 20:08.241 PEOPLE STAND FOR. 20:08.241 --> 20:11.344 SO, THE MORE OF THAT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, I THINK THE MORE 20:11.344 --> 20:13.880 WE CAN GET PEOPLE TURNED OUT TO THE POLLS. 20:13.880 --> 20:17.283 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, DOES YOUR SMARTPHONE APP WORK 20:17.283 --> 20:19.452 ONLY FOR VOTERS ALREADY REGISTERED? 20:19.452 --> 20:20.887 >> YES, IT DOES, BETSY. 20:20.887 --> 20:25.392 WE WERE -- BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE VOTER SYSTEM IS IN THE 20:25.392 --> 20:30.563 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, WE WERE UNABLE TO USE GIS DATA 20:30.563 --> 20:34.668 WHEN WE -- WE HAD TO USE THE EXISTING VOTER FILE, COMMON 20:34.668 --> 20:37.404 SEPARATED VALUES, IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT IS. 20:37.404 --> 20:38.672 THAT WAS OUR CHALLENGE. 20:38.672 --> 20:43.410 WE HAD TO USE THE CURRENT VOTER FILE TO LOOK UP VOTERS AND SHOW 20:43.410 --> 20:46.212 THEM WHAT THEIR POLLING PLACE IS BUT WE PROVIDE A LINK ON 20:46.212 --> 20:48.748 INFORMATION ON HOW TO REGISTER. 20:48.748 --> 20:52.318 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, YOUR APP REQUIRES PEOPLE TO 20:52.318 --> 20:55.221 ENTER THEIR NAME AND ZIP CODE AND DISTRICT INFORMATION POPS 20:55.221 --> 20:55.588 UP. 20:55.588 --> 20:57.357 IS THERE INFORMATION GOING ANYWHERE, BEING STORED? 20:57.357 --> 20:59.359 >> NO, IT'S NOT. 20:59.359 --> 21:02.228 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A HUGE PROPONENT TO PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO 21:02.228 --> 21:02.996 PRIVACY. 21:02.996 --> 21:06.166 IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I COSPONSORED A BILL 21:06.166 --> 21:08.902 TO THAT END IN THE LEGISLATURE. 21:08.902 --> 21:10.503 YOUR DATA DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE. 21:10.503 --> 21:11.504 IT IS NOT SAVED. 21:11.504 --> 21:14.908 IT IS SAVED LOCALLY ON YOUR DEVICE SO THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO 21:14.908 --> 21:17.911 RETRIEVE THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE POLLING BOOTH. 21:17.911 --> 21:21.881 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, SAME QUESTION THAT I BEGAN WITH WITH 21:21.881 --> 21:26.019 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE VOTING IN IDAHO? 21:26.019 --> 21:29.723 IS OUR VOTER TURNOUT HIGH ENOUGH? 21:29.723 --> 21:30.890 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, BETSY. 21:30.890 --> 21:33.393 I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN 21:33.393 --> 21:36.896 TO EDUCATE VOTERS AND GET THEM TO THE POLLS. 21:36.896 --> 21:39.366 PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THEIR VOTE IS. 21:39.366 --> 21:45.105 YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO ELECT OUR LEADERS AND 21:45.105 --> 21:49.309 CERTAINLY WE GET CAUGHT UP IN LIFE AND WE FORGET ALL OF OUR 21:49.309 --> 21:53.580 CIVIC DUTIES AND CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CIVIC 21:53.580 --> 21:57.517 DUTIES IS THAT RIGHT, THAT PRIVILEGE, THAT RESPONSIBILITY 21:57.517 --> 21:57.984 TO VOTE. 21:57.984 --> 22:00.887 >> SO, IF YOU'RE ELECTED SECRETARY OF STATE, WHAT WOULD 22:00.887 --> 22:03.323 YOU DO TO ENCOURAGE MORE VOTER TURNOUT? 22:03.323 --> 22:06.226 >> I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO 22:06.226 --> 22:07.627 ENCOURAGE VOTER TURNOUT. 22:07.627 --> 22:12.632 ONE OF THOSE, SECRETARY OF STATE IS IN CHARGE OF THE CIVIC 22:12.632 --> 22:16.069 EDUCATION OF THE STUDENTS, AND CERTAINLY I THINK THAT THAT IS 22:16.069 --> 22:18.171 AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE 22:18.171 --> 22:23.176 LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE THAT IS HAPPENING IN ALL OF OUR 22:23.176 --> 22:26.913 SCHOOLS THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE BEING TAUGHT, YOU KNOW, THE 22:26.913 --> 22:31.117 IMPORTANCE OF VOTING, NOT ONLY THE IMPORTANCE OF VOTING AND 22:31.117 --> 22:35.288 THE RIGHT AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO VOTE, BUT 22:35.288 --> 22:39.292 ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR. 22:39.292 --> 22:44.664 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A VERSION OF THE QUESTION I ASKED 22:44.664 --> 22:46.299 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS EARLIER. 22:46.299 --> 22:50.670 WHICH WOULD BE WORST, FOR SOMEONE TO CAST A FRAUDULENT 22:50.670 --> 22:54.774 VOTE IN IDAHO OR FOR A LEGITIMATE VOTER TRYING TO VOTE 22:54.774 --> 22:55.742 TO BE TURNED AWAY? 22:55.742 --> 23:00.046 >> BETSY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN TURN A LEGITIMATE VOTER 23:00.046 --> 23:03.149 AWAY UNLESS THEY ARE NOT PROPERLY REGISTERED, AND WHERE 23:03.149 --> 23:06.586 YOU CAN REGISTER AT THE POLLS, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CAN 23:06.586 --> 23:07.520 HAPPEN. 23:07.520 --> 23:13.593 AND, CERTAINLY, WE WOULD HOPE THAT WE HAVE ZERO FRAUD, AND 23:13.593 --> 23:16.896 THAT WE STILL GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. 23:16.896 --> 23:20.633 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS FROM 23:20.633 --> 23:21.267 SCOTT GRAF. 23:21.267 --> 23:27.173 >> IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE IDAHO'S SUNSHINE LAWS OR 23:27.173 --> 23:30.810 COULD LOBBY TO CHANGE THEM, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD YOU DO 23:30.810 --> 23:35.615 IT INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND INSTILL VOTER CONFIDENCE? 23:35.615 --> 23:38.651 >> WELL, WE WENT VERY FAR IN INCREASING TRANSPARENCY IN THE 23:38.651 --> 23:44.824 LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION BY REQUIRING ALL 501-C-4 POLITICAL 23:44.824 --> 23:48.461 ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTICIPATE IN ELECTION TO DISCLOSE THEIR 23:48.461 --> 23:49.262 DONORS. 23:49.262 --> 23:52.899 BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO A STEP FARTHER IN MAKING 23:52.899 --> 23:57.203 THAT INFORMATION MORE ACCESSIBLE OVER THE INTERNET. 23:57.203 --> 24:00.774 AND OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW HAS SO MUCH INFORMATION AND SO MUCH 24:00.774 --> 24:03.143 DONOR INFORMATION AND INFORMATION ON WHERE THAT MONEY 24:03.143 --> 24:08.081 IS GOING, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM AND REALLY 24:08.081 --> 24:10.884 PAINT A COMPLETE PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 24:10.884 --> 24:15.622 AND, SO, WE HAVE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO OVERHAUL THE 24:15.622 --> 24:19.159 TECHNOLOGY OF THE OFFICE TO MAKE THAT INFORMATION MORE 24:19.159 --> 24:23.163 TRANSPARENT, AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE OF 24:23.163 --> 24:23.596 IDAHO. 24:23.596 --> 24:26.900 >> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. 24:26.900 --> 24:31.004 >> YOU HAVE BEEN IN ELECTED OFFICE A TENTH OF THE TIME AS 24:31.004 --> 24:31.805 YOUR OPPONENT. 24:31.805 --> 24:35.709 ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH IDAHO PUBLIC RECORD LAWS AND HOW 24:35.709 --> 24:38.111 WOULD YOU RESPOND TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? 24:38.111 --> 24:41.081 >> WELL, THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 24:41.081 --> 24:44.351 GOVERNOR RECENTLY APPOINTED A PUBLIC RECORDS OMBUDSMAN TO 24:44.351 --> 24:47.821 KIND OF BE THE PEOPLES VOICE IN THAT PROCESS. 24:47.821 --> 24:51.758 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT OF TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT. 24:51.758 --> 24:54.394 AND IF WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT WE CAN'T BE PROUD OF, THAT WE 24:54.394 --> 24:58.331 NEED TO BE ASHAMED OF, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THOSE. 24:58.331 --> 25:02.602 SO, AS FAR AS PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, I FILED PLENTY OF MY 25:02.602 --> 25:06.139 OWN IN THE PAST AND HAVE ALWAYS APPRECIATED A TIMELY RESPONSE 25:06.139 --> 25:08.975 AND WOULD DO THE SAME AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 25:08.975 --> 25:11.945 >> NEXT QUESTION IS FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY FROM 25:11.945 --> 25:12.512 SCOTT GRAF. 25:12.512 --> 25:16.416 >> YOU HIRED A PRIVATE ATTORNEY FOR FEDERAL LANDS, THE FEDERAL 25:16.416 --> 25:21.154 LANDS INTERIM COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF USING ATTORNEY GENERAL 25:21.154 --> 25:21.888 LAWRENCE WASDEN. 25:21.888 --> 25:23.890 THIS COST TAXPAYERS ABOUT $61,000. 25:23.890 --> 25:27.694 IF ELECTED, DO YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE TO USE TAXPAYER 25:27.694 --> 25:32.532 DOLLARS FOR PRIVATE COUNSEL OR WILL YOU USE MORE OFTEN THE 25:32.532 --> 25:34.067 STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE? 25:34.067 --> 25:37.003 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION AS WELL. 25:37.003 --> 25:40.173 CERTAINLY, AS I SAID YESTERDAY, YOU DON'T HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO 25:40.173 --> 25:42.375 GIVE YOU A OPINION THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. 25:42.375 --> 25:45.378 YOU HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO GIVE YOU SOUND LEGAL ADVICE. 25:45.378 --> 25:51.818 OUR INTERIM COMMITTEE HAD AN ATTORNEY OR DR. KOESHEN FROM 25:51.818 --> 25:56.256 THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY, AND THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY HAS ABOUT 25:56.256 --> 25:59.025 40,000 ATTORNEYS AS MEMBERS AND HE GAVE US A REPORT SAYING THAT 25:59.025 --> 26:02.328 THERE WAS LEGAL BASIS FOR WHAT WE WERE DOING. 26:02.328 --> 26:06.766 OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL TOLD US THAT 26:06.766 --> 26:07.767 THERE WASN'T. 26:07.767 --> 26:13.506 MY CO-CHAIR AND I DECIDED THAT IT MIGHT BE BEST IF THIS 26:13.506 --> 26:17.977 INTERIM COMMITTEE HIRED INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO GUIDE US 26:17.977 --> 26:19.312 THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 26:19.312 --> 26:23.249 AS SECRETARY OF STATE I THINK YOU HAVE TO PLAY EACH CASE BY 26:23.249 --> 26:26.686 EAR, AND IF YOU CAN, I WOULD SAY USE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S 26:26.686 --> 26:27.253 OFFICE. 26:27.253 --> 26:31.157 IF THERE IS AN INHERENT CONFLICT, THEN WE HIRE 26:31.157 --> 26:32.058 INDEPENDENT COUNSEL. 26:32.058 --> 26:35.061 >> I WONDER IF I WOULD JUMP BACK FOR A MOMENT, 26:35.061 --> 26:37.997 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY TO THE EARLIER REQUEST ABOUT WHEN 26:37.997 --> 26:42.902 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS WAS ASKED WHAT WOULD SHE CHANGE IN 26:42.902 --> 26:44.504 IDAHO'S SUNSHINE LAWS? 26:44.504 --> 26:47.273 WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE IF YOU COULD PROPOSE CHANGES? 26:47.273 --> 26:50.010 >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MIND OFF THE TOP. 26:50.010 --> 26:53.113 ONE OF THOSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO TO A QUARTERLY 26:53.113 --> 26:54.647 REPORTING FOR CANDIDATES. 26:54.647 --> 27:00.653 RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT, WE HAVE THE 27:00.653 --> 27:04.958 PRE-PRIMARY, POST PRIMARY, PREGENERAL -- AND I THINK THIS 27:04.958 --> 27:08.595 OCTOBER, A PRE-GENERAL AND A POST-GENERAL. 27:08.595 --> 27:11.865 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US JUST GO TO A QUARTERLY REPORTING. 27:11.865 --> 27:14.834 I THINK THAT GIVES US MORE INFORMATION AND I THINK IT'S 27:14.834 --> 27:19.506 MORE TRANSPARENT AND I THINK THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO 27:19.506 --> 27:24.144 SEE WHO IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE CAMPAIGNS AND HOW THAT MONEY IS 27:24.144 --> 27:25.045 BEING SPENT. 27:25.045 --> 27:29.149 SECOND AREA THAT I THINK IS RIGHT NOW THAT NEEDS TO BE 27:29.149 --> 27:31.951 CHANGED, IF YOU ARE A CANDIDATE, BUT NOT AN 27:31.951 --> 27:35.255 INCUMBENT, A LOBBYIST DOES NOT HAVE TO REPORT WHAT THEY SPEND 27:35.255 --> 27:36.056 ON YOU. 27:36.056 --> 27:39.893 WHERE AS IF YOU ARE IN ANY ELECTED OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO DO 27:39.893 --> 27:41.795 THAT REPORTING. 27:41.795 --> 27:46.232 I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT EQU 27:46.232 --> 27:46.433 EQUAL. 27:46.433 --> 27:49.502 ONCE YOU BECOME A CANDIDATE FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION, I THINK 27:49.502 --> 27:53.340 YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT REPORTING MANDATORY FOR BOTH. 27:53.340 --> 27:56.876 >> I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE EARLIER QUESTION ABOUT THE 27:56.876 --> 27:58.311 ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE IF POSSIBLE. 27:58.311 --> 28:02.382 I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DEPUTY WHO 28:02.382 --> 28:05.685 GAVE THE OPINION WAS STRONG, THE CHIEF OF THE ATTORNEY 28:05.685 --> 28:11.691 GENERAL NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION, 37 YEARS' EXPERIENCE. 28:11.691 --> 28:15.295 STEVE -- WHO WORKS UNDER CLYDE STRONG, 26 YEARS' EXPERIENCE 28:15.295 --> 28:19.299 AND DELIVERED THAT REPORT TO THE INTERIM COMMITTEE. 28:19.299 --> 28:23.470 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT -- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH A 28:23.470 --> 28:27.240 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED BY THE 28:27.240 --> 28:30.076 PERSON WHO WAS HIRED BY THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO THROUGH THE 28:30.076 --> 28:34.981 ELECTION PROCESS TO REPRESENT US IN LEGAL MATTERS, AND THAT'S 28:34.981 --> 28:40.520 ATTORNEY GENERAL LAWRENCE WASDEN. 28:40.520 --> 28:43.790 SPENDING $61,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPINION 28:43.790 --> 28:46.893 WITH THE TYPE OF EXPERIENCE CONTAINED IN OUR ATTORNEY 28:46.893 --> 28:49.229 GENERAL'S OFFICE, TO ME IS A COMPLETE WASTE. 28:49.229 --> 28:52.632 >> A FOLLOW-UP -- >> I MIGHT JUST ADD TO THAT, 28:52.632 --> 28:57.003 THOUGH, WHEN WE HEARD THE REPORT FROM MR. KOESHEN, WHO 28:57.003 --> 29:01.007 REPRESENTS THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY, AND THEY HAD 40,000 29:01.007 --> 29:04.644 ATTORNEYS AS MEMBERS OF THAT SOCIETY, IT APPEARS TO US THAT 29:04.644 --> 29:08.114 WE NEED THE BEST LEGAL ADVICE, WE NEED INDEPENDENT LEGAL 29:08.114 --> 29:11.117 ADVICE SO THAT WE CAN COME TO THE RIGHT DECISION ON THIS 29:11.117 --> 29:11.551 ISSUE. 29:11.551 --> 29:14.854 AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO THE STATE OF IDAHO. 29:14.854 --> 29:16.556 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND? 29:16.556 --> 29:17.590 >> NO, THAT'S OKAY. 29:17.590 --> 29:18.324 THANK YOU. 29:18.324 --> 29:20.226 >> QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 29:20.226 --> 29:22.762 IF THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE FACED A LEGAL CHALLENGE 29:22.762 --> 29:27.500 AND YOU FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL THAT YOU 29:27.500 --> 29:30.970 WERE GET FROM INSIDE STATE GOVERNMENT, ATTORNEY GENERAL'S 29:30.970 --> 29:34.140 OFFICE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SEEK OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR WHAT 29:34.140 --> 29:36.943 YOU BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY BEST FOR VOTERS IN THE STATE OF 29:36.943 --> 29:37.410 IDAHO? 29:37.410 --> 29:39.579 >> I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT SITUATION ARISING. 29:39.579 --> 29:44.984 I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR LAWRENCE WASDEN, 29:44.984 --> 29:46.519 OUR CURRENT ATTORNEY GENERAL. 29:46.519 --> 29:48.788 WE HAVE HAD MANY LONG CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE 29:48.788 --> 29:52.058 CHALLENGES FACING OUR STATE AND THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE MANY 29:52.058 --> 29:54.094 ISSUES THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE DEALS WITH. 29:54.094 --> 29:59.165 AND I BELIEVE THAT HE IS VERY MUCH WORKING IN THE INTEREST OF 29:59.165 --> 30:05.905 IDAHOANS, AND I WOULD RESPECT HIS COUNSEL. 30:05.905 --> 30:09.642 >> NEXT QUESTION -- >> ACCORDING TO THE 30:09.642 --> 30:12.078 CONSTITUTION, IDAHO CONSTITUTION, LAND BOARD'S JOB 30:12.078 --> 30:19.919 TO BUY AND SELL LAND IN SUCH A MANNER AS WILL SECURE THE 30:19.919 --> 30:23.356 MAXIMUM LONG TERM -- THIS MONEY GOES TO SUPPORT IDAHO SCHOOLS, 30:23.356 --> 30:24.357 AMONG OTHER THINGS. 30:24.357 --> 30:28.728 SO, HOW DO YOU INTERPRET MAXIMUM LONG-TERM FINANCIAL 30:28.728 --> 30:32.665 RETURN AND HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE PRIVATE SECTOR? 30:32.665 --> 30:37.037 >> WELL, I'M IN AGREEMENT, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE I'M STUMPING 30:37.037 --> 30:39.039 FOR OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL HERE. 30:39.039 --> 30:41.841 I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL ON THE 30:41.841 --> 30:44.377 DEFINITION OF LAND, AND THAT'S THE GROUND AND ANYTHING BUILT 30:44.377 --> 30:45.111 ON TOP OF THIS. 30:45.111 --> 30:53.053 THIS MISNOMER THAT SOMEHOW SOME OF THE STATE ENDOWMENT LAND ARE 30:53.053 --> 31:02.629 COMMERCIAL ARE -- THE WAY THAT WE -- THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT 31:02.629 --> 31:05.331 HARVESTING ALL OF THE TIMBER BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE BEST 31:05.331 --> 31:06.499 RETURN FOR NEXT YEAR. 31:06.499 --> 31:10.804 THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE MANAGING LAND SO THEY GIVE US A 31:10.804 --> 31:14.607 LONG-TERM BENEFIT FOR 20 YEARS, 100 YEARS, 200 YEARS. 31:14.607 --> 31:18.712 AND SO WE ALWAYS NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE WITH THAT LONG-TERM IN 31:18.712 --> 31:19.346 MIND. 31:19.346 --> 31:21.815 WHAT MAKES THE BEST SENSE IN THE LONG TERM? 31:21.815 --> 31:25.185 WHAT IS THE PORTFOLIO MIX ON THOSE LANDS THAT MAKES THE BEST 31:25.185 --> 31:26.119 SENSE IN THE LONG TERM? 31:26.119 --> 31:29.089 AND SO THAT'S WHY WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT AND THAT'S WHAT 31:29.089 --> 31:37.464 WE'RE MANDATED TO DO BY THE CON CONSTITUTI 31:37.464 --> 31:37.831 CONSTITUTION. 31:37.831 --> 31:38.264 >> SAME QUESTION. 31:38.264 --> 31:40.266 >> I THINK YOU MISSPOKE WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT IS A CHARGE OF 31:40.266 --> 31:45.372 THE LAND BOARD TO BUY AND SELL LAND TO MAKE THE GREATEST 31:45.372 --> 31:47.674 LONG-TERM RETURN FOR THE ENDOWMENTS. 31:47.674 --> 31:51.277 THAT IS NOT THE CHARGE OF THE LAND BOARD TO BUY AND SELL LAND 31:51.277 --> 31:51.778 AT ALL. 31:51.778 --> 31:58.518 WE ARE CHARGED WITH MAKING THE MAXIMUM LONG-TERM RETURN FOR 31:58.518 --> 32:04.691 THE ENDOWMENTS, BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY, VERY SPECIFIC 32:04.691 --> 32:06.993 CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO SELL ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY IN 32:06.993 --> 32:08.094 THE STATE OF IDAHO. 32:08.094 --> 32:11.531 AND ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT IT HAS TO GO TO 32:11.531 --> 32:15.535 AUCTION, OR IT HAS TO BE TRADED, SO, I THINK THAT -- I 32:15.535 --> 32:19.506 THINK YOU MISSPOKE WHEN YOU SAID THAT. 32:19.506 --> 32:23.543 NOW, AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I DISAGREE THAT ALL 32:23.543 --> 32:26.179 OF OUR LAND IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 32:26.179 --> 32:30.083 I THINK THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IN TIMBER AND GRAZING, WE ARE 32:30.083 --> 32:32.285 SELLING A COMMODITY. 32:32.285 --> 32:36.456 WE ARE NOT SELLING A PRODUCT OTHER THAN THE TIMBER. 32:36.456 --> 32:40.026 WE ARE NOT HARVESTING -- OR HARVESTING THE TIMBER. 32:40.026 --> 32:42.095 WE'RE NOT MILLING THE TIMBER. 32:42.095 --> 32:45.198 I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THAT TYPE OF 32:45.198 --> 32:45.999 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 32:45.999 --> 32:51.004 I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE COMPETING WITH PRIVATE 32:51.004 --> 32:55.041 BUSINESSES IN THE MARKETPLACE BECAUSE OF THE TAX ADVANTAGES 32:55.041 --> 32:57.310 THAT THE STATE OF IDAHO HAS. 32:57.310 --> 32:58.411 >> JUST TO CLARIFY. 32:58.411 --> 33:01.881 WHEN I SAID IT WAS A -- I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED AND SAID 33:01.881 --> 33:05.885 IF THE LAND BOARD WAS TO BUY AND SELL LAND. 33:05.885 --> 33:10.523 IT WAS -- TO THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT. 33:10.523 --> 33:14.427 YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE -- CHARGE OF THE LAND BOARD. 33:14.427 --> 33:15.795 >> A FOLLOW-UP. 33:15.795 --> 33:20.066 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, IF IT'S WRONG FOR THE STATE TO 33:20.066 --> 33:23.069 COMPETE WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS, HOW IS IT NOT COMPETING WITH 33:23.069 --> 33:28.875 PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR US TO SELL TIMBER OFF OF STATE LANDS WHEN 33:28.875 --> 33:32.245 THERE ARE PRIVATE TIMBERLAND OWNERS WHO ALSO SELL TIMBER 33:32.245 --> 33:35.515 INTO THE SAME MARKET OR PERHAPS MIGHT EVEN BE OTHER OWNERS OF 33:35.515 --> 33:38.451 NATURAL RESOURCE LAND IN THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS? 33:38.451 --> 33:44.357 >> WELL, IN THE -- IN THE ECONOMIC MARKET, YOU KNOW, WE 33:44.357 --> 33:49.462 HAVE PERFECT COMPETITION, CONCOURSE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF 33:49.462 --> 33:52.565 BUYERS AND SELLERS, AND I THINK THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE 33:52.565 --> 33:52.932 HAVE. 33:52.932 --> 33:58.038 WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING ON A SPECIFIC STORAGE UNIT OR OFFICE 33:58.038 --> 34:02.776 BUILDING, I THINK THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN HAVING -- THAN 34:02.776 --> 34:07.947 HAVING TIMBER FROM A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 34:07.947 --> 34:10.350 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS? 34:10.350 --> 34:13.253 >> WELL, I JUST COMPLETELY DISAGREE. 34:13.253 --> 34:16.623 AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL'S DEFINITION 34:16.623 --> 34:17.257 OF LAND. 34:17.257 --> 34:21.261 AND THAT IS THE GROUND AND ANYTHING BUILT ON TOP OF IT. 34:21.261 --> 34:25.165 SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TIMBER, STILL COMPETING IN THE 34:25.165 --> 34:26.332 PRIVATE SECTOR. 34:26.332 --> 34:30.003 GRAZING, COMPETING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 34:30.003 --> 34:33.640 I DON'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THESE THINGS. 34:33.640 --> 34:37.177 >> BETSY, ANOTHER QUESTION. 34:37.177 --> 34:40.714 >> YES, TALKING ABOUT SELLING -- WE RECENTLY WENT 34:40.714 --> 34:43.550 THROUGH A RATHER LARGE EXERCISE IN SELLING STATE ENDOWMENT 34:43.550 --> 34:46.653 LANDS WITH REGARD TO THE CABIN SITE AT PRIEST LAKE. 34:46.653 --> 34:49.723 I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT BOTH OF YOU THINK OF THE ROUTE THAT THE 34:49.723 --> 34:52.659 STATE TOOK ON THAT AND IT'S BEEN VERY CONTROVERSIAL. 34:52.659 --> 34:55.462 THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RENTED THOSE CABIN SITES FOR MANY 34:55.462 --> 34:58.131 YEARS HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY HAPPY. 34:58.131 --> 35:01.968 BOTH OF YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT PROCESS? 35:01.968 --> 35:04.337 STARTING WITH REPRESENTATIVE -- >> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. 35:04.337 --> 35:07.674 I HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD THE 35:07.674 --> 35:11.144 CABIN SITES FOR SOMETIMES GENERATIONS, AND WE ALL HAVE 35:11.144 --> 35:13.313 THOSE SPECIAL PLACES WHERE WE GO AS A FAMILY. 35:13.313 --> 35:15.615 IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY CONTROVERSIAL. 35:15.615 --> 35:18.618 THE PROBLEM IS, THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF LAND, THE 35:18.618 --> 35:20.620 PROCESS HAD BECOME POLITICAL. 35:20.620 --> 35:23.990 AND THEY WEREN'T BEING MANAGED TO THE MAXIMUM LONG-TERM 35:23.990 --> 35:28.795 BENEFIT OF THE ENDOWMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UNDER THE 35:28.795 --> 35:29.629 CONSTITUTION. 35:29.629 --> 35:33.800 WHAT WAS HAPPENING EVERY TIME WE WERE LEASING THOSE FOR A 35:33.800 --> 35:37.070 SUB-MARKET RATE, WE WERE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE POCKETS OF 35:37.070 --> 35:39.072 SCHOOL CHILDREN AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT RIGHT. 35:39.072 --> 35:42.075 I SUPPORT THE LAND BOARD'S DECISION TO DIVEST OURSELVES OF 35:42.075 --> 35:46.112 THOSE LANDS AND NOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT REVENUE FROM 35:46.112 --> 35:49.616 THOSE AUCTIONS TO FIGURE OUT IF WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT MONEY INTO 35:49.616 --> 35:53.086 THE PERMANENT FUND OR IF WE HAVE OTHER TYPES OF LAND 35:53.086 --> 35:57.590 HOLDINGS THAT WILL IN, TURN, PROVIDE THAT LONG-TERM BENEFIT 35:57.590 --> 36:00.593 TO THE ENDOWMENT. 36:00.593 --> 36:04.764 >> A PERSON WHO STARTS A BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF IDAHO 36:04.764 --> 36:09.402 HAS TO WORK WITH THE -- GETS TO WORK WITH THE SECRETARY OF 36:09.402 --> 36:13.039 STATE OFFICE TO SET UP TAX PAYMENTS, BECOME AN LLC, 36:13.039 --> 36:15.608 WHATEVER IT IS THAT NECESSARY. 36:15.608 --> 36:18.478 YOU BOTH SAY THAT STREAMLINING THIS PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT 36:18.478 --> 36:21.314 YOU WOULD MAKE A PRIORITY ONCE SECRETARY OF STATE. 36:21.314 --> 36:25.251 I'M CURIOUS, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A SITUATION WHERE THIS IS 36:25.251 --> 36:26.219 NOT GOING WELL. 36:26.219 --> 36:28.521 PERHAPS SOMETHING YOU HEARD FROM A VOTER, AND HOW YOU WOULD 36:28.521 --> 36:31.958 WORK TO CHANGE THAT ONCE IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE POSITION? 36:31.958 --> 36:34.427 >> WELL, I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THAT FROM PERSONAL 36:34.427 --> 36:37.630 EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO REGISTER A BUSINESS, YOU 36:37.630 --> 36:39.599 CANNOT CURRENTLY DO THAT ONLINE. 36:39.599 --> 36:44.604 AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD DO IS GET THAT 36:44.604 --> 36:45.605 PROCESS ONLINE. 36:45.605 --> 36:48.174 NEXT WE CAN OFFER RESOURCES TO THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE STARTING 36:48.174 --> 36:50.643 NEW BUSINESSES, BECAUSE WE'RE SORT OF THEIR FIRST STOP. 36:50.643 --> 37:00.854 AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR LOCAL CHAPTER 37:00.854 --> 37:03.323 OF THE SMALL BUSINESS -- WE KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE 37:03.323 --> 37:07.060 THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY AND THE MORE SUCCESS WE CAN GET IN 37:07.060 --> 37:10.330 THAT, THE BETTER OUR COMMUNITIES WILL BE. 37:10.330 --> 37:12.499 >> SAME QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 37:12.499 --> 37:13.233 >> THANK YOU. 37:13.233 --> 37:15.869 AND CERTAINLY I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THAT. 37:15.869 --> 37:18.405 I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. 37:18.405 --> 37:22.342 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE 37:22.342 --> 37:25.612 PARTNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN 37:25.612 --> 37:29.049 A BUSINESS DOES COME IN AND FILE THEIR PAPERWORK THAT WE 37:29.049 --> 37:32.519 CAN GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON ALL OF THE REGULATIONS AND ALL OF 37:32.519 --> 37:35.588 THE PERMITS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO GET STARTED 37:35.588 --> 37:36.322 IN BUSINESS. 37:36.322 --> 37:38.358 AND I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. 37:38.358 --> 37:41.795 I THINK THE SOONER THAT WE CAN GET THEM ACTUALLY PRODUCING AND 37:41.795 --> 37:45.365 PAYING TAXES, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THE STATE OF IDAHO. 37:45.365 --> 37:49.736 >> NEXT QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 37:49.736 --> 37:53.907 >> IN THE RECENT IDAHO STATESMAN VOTER GUIDE, YOU 37:53.907 --> 38:03.016 CLAIM I HAVE HAD TO MAKE TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS AND -- SO, 38:03.016 --> 38:08.488 WHAT WOULD YOU FORESEE AS A QUOTE TOUGH POLITICAL DECISION 38:08.488 --> 38:10.490 YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE IN OFFICE? 38:10.490 --> 38:14.761 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE MADE MANY, 38:14.761 --> 38:18.665 MANY TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS, AND NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN 38:18.665 --> 38:19.966 PARTISAN DECISIONS. 38:19.966 --> 38:24.504 AS SECRETARY OF STATE, I THINK THERE ARE TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT 38:24.504 --> 38:27.240 YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. 38:27.240 --> 38:32.679 I DON'T KNOW THAT A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE 38:32.679 --> 38:34.414 CONTROVERSIAL DECISIONS. 38:34.414 --> 38:38.051 ONE EXAMPLE I MIGHT GIVE YOU OFF THE TOP IS THE CLOSED 38:38.051 --> 38:43.790 PRIMARY LAW, WHICH SAYS THAT THE PARTY CHAIRMAN HAS TO 38:43.790 --> 38:47.327 DESIGNATE WHETHER OR NOT THE UNAFFILIATEDS CAN VOTE IN THEIR 38:47.327 --> 38:50.864 PRIMARY AND THEY HAVE TO DO THAT 180 DAYS PRIOR TO THE 38:50.864 --> 38:51.364 ELECTION. 38:51.364 --> 38:54.968 ANOTHER SECTION OF CODE SAYS THAT YOU CAN DECLARE YOUR PARTY 38:54.968 --> 38:56.169 AFFILIATION ON ELECTION DAY. 38:56.169 --> 38:59.305 THERE IS DEFINITELY A CONFLICT IN THE CODE. 38:59.305 --> 39:00.440 AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. 39:00.440 --> 39:04.844 AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE DECISIONS THAT COMES UPON THE 39:04.844 --> 39:06.012 SECRETARY OF STATE. 39:06.012 --> 39:09.482 OUR CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE MR. YSURSA MADE THE CHOICE 39:09.482 --> 39:12.852 THAT, YES, YOU CAN DECLARE YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION ON ELECTION 39:12.852 --> 39:13.186 DAY. 39:13.186 --> 39:17.023 BUT I THINK HE WOULD HAVE BEEN LEGALLY IN THE SAME TERRITORY 39:17.023 --> 39:22.962 IF HE HAD SAID, NO, UNAFFILIATED VOTERS CANNOT VOTE 39:22.962 --> 39:24.497 IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION. 39:24.497 --> 39:26.566 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 39:26.566 --> 39:27.133 >> NO. 39:27.133 --> 39:29.302 >> BETSY RUSSELL, A FOLLOW-UP FOR YOU. 39:29.302 --> 39:33.139 >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, ABOUT 39:33.139 --> 39:39.212 THE CABINS AND HEAR FROM REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 39:39.212 --> 39:41.681 >> I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY OPPONENT THAT THIS IS 39:41.681 --> 39:44.684 SOMETHING THAT THE STATE OF IDAHO, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE 39:44.684 --> 39:47.487 PROBLEMS SURROUNDING IT, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE 39:47.487 --> 39:50.623 NEED TO DIVEST OURSELVES OF. 39:50.623 --> 39:53.526 THE PRIEST LAKE PROPERTIES WERE DIVESTED. 39:53.526 --> 39:56.096 THERE WERE 60 PROPERTIES PUT ON THE AUCTION BLOCK. 39:56.096 --> 39:59.099 THERE WAS AN APPRAISAL VALUE PUT ON THEM. 39:59.099 --> 40:01.234 AND THAT WAS THE OPENING BID. 40:01.234 --> 40:05.005 THERE WERE ONLY TWO CONTESTED BIDS OUT OF THOSE 60 LOTS. 40:05.005 --> 40:08.375 YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE GOT THE HIGHEST RETURN, 40:08.375 --> 40:12.245 HOWEVER, WE DID GET THE APPRAISED VALUE, SO I THINK 40:12.245 --> 40:13.346 THAT'S PROBABLY OKAY. 40:13.346 --> 40:16.616 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 40:16.616 --> 40:20.286 >> THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE QUESTION I ASKED REPRESENTATIVE 40:20.286 --> 40:24.290 DENNEY, WHAT TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS DO YOU FORESEE HAVING 40:24.290 --> 40:25.091 TO MAKE? 40:25.091 --> 40:28.094 >> THAT'S ONE OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF 40:28.094 --> 40:28.828 STATE'S OFFICE. 40:28.828 --> 40:31.464 IF YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB RIGHT, YOU'RE HOLDING EVERYONE 40:31.464 --> 40:33.833 TO THE SAME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY. 40:33.833 --> 40:37.771 AND SURE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME PRESSURE PROBABLY FROM 40:37.771 --> 40:42.208 YOUR OWN PARTY, AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABOVE THAT. 40:42.208 --> 40:46.379 AND THAT'S WHAT BEN YSURSA HAS DONE AND THAT IS WHAT PETE 40:46.379 --> 40:51.151 CENARRUSA HAS DONE AND THAT IS THE LEGACY I AM COMMITTED TO 40:51.151 --> 40:51.951 PROTECT. 40:51.951 --> 40:54.854 >>> REPRESENTATIVE, IN DECEMBER OF 2012, YOU BECAME THE FIRST 40:54.854 --> 40:58.958 IDAHO HOUSE SPEAKER TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT POSITION BY 40:58.958 --> 41:00.326 HIS CAUCUS. 41:00.326 --> 41:04.431 I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU LEARNED AS A SEASONED VETERAN OF POLITICS 41:04.431 --> 41:07.600 AT THAT POINT IN YOUR CAREER AND HOW YOU WILL USE WHAT YOU 41:07.600 --> 41:10.337 LEARNED TO BE A BETTER SECRETARY OF STATE? 41:10.337 --> 41:18.912 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN REPORTS THAT I WAS OUSTED AS SPEAKER OF 41:18.912 --> 41:19.813 THE HOUSE. 41:19.813 --> 41:22.449 I DON'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARILY OUSTED IS WHAT I 41:22.449 --> 41:23.550 WOULD CALL IT. 41:23.550 --> 41:27.253 I THINK THERE WAS ONE ISSUE IN THAT ELECTION THAT MADE A BIG 41:27.253 --> 41:29.723 DIFFERENCE, AND THAT WAS THE INSURANCE EXCHANGE. 41:29.723 --> 41:35.895 AND I THINK THAT I HAD TO BE REMOVED TO HAVE THAT MOVE 41:35.895 --> 41:41.201 FORWARD, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT PUT INTO THAT AND I 41:41.201 --> 41:45.105 THINK THAT THAT IS THE REASON THAT I LOST THAT ELECTION. 41:45.105 --> 41:47.574 >> I HAVE A -- DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? 41:47.574 --> 41:49.376 >> I WOULD LOVE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. 41:49.376 --> 41:55.148 BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THOSE LEGISLATORS WHO WAS THERE WHEN 41:55.148 --> 41:57.517 LAWERENCE WAS OUSTED FROM HIS SPEAKERSHIP. 41:57.517 --> 41:59.152 THERE IS A REASON WHY THAT HAPPENED. 41:59.152 --> 42:02.722 IT WAS BECAUSE HE USED CAUCUS FUNDS AGAINST INCUMBENTS IN HIS 42:02.722 --> 42:04.357 OWN CAUCUS. 42:04.357 --> 42:10.730 IT WAS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T BRING HART UP ON ETHICS CHARGES AND 42:10.730 --> 42:13.500 INSTEAD TOOK THE VICE CHAIRMANSHIP OF A LEGISLATOR IN 42:13.500 --> 42:14.534 VERY GOOD STANDING. 42:14.534 --> 42:18.338 IT WAS THAT EXTREME PARTISANSHIP THAT LED TO THAT 42:18.338 --> 42:20.173 OUSTING AND NOT ANY OTHER ISSUE. 42:20.173 --> 42:22.008 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 42:22.008 --> 42:25.278 >> YES, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN CALL THAT PARTISANSHIP 42:25.278 --> 42:28.081 BECAUSE THESE WERE ALL WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 42:28.081 --> 42:30.750 HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE CAUCUS 42:30.750 --> 42:32.118 FUNDS AS WELL. 42:32.118 --> 42:33.019 THAT'S WRONG. 42:33.019 --> 42:35.021 THAT IS -- THAT IS NOT TRUE. 42:35.021 --> 42:38.525 YOU KNOW, THERE ARE -- THERE IS A CAUCUS FUND AND WHAT WE HAD 42:38.525 --> 42:43.897 WAS A VICTORY FUND WHICH WAS THE FUNDS THAT WAS CREATED BY 42:43.897 --> 42:48.368 MY PREDECESSOR, AND I REINSTITUTED IT WHEN I TOOK 42:48.368 --> 42:55.275 OVER AND IT WAS TO BE USED TO HELP OUR COLLEAGUES IN PRIMARY 42:55.275 --> 42:55.842 ELECTIONS. 42:55.842 --> 43:00.246 AND CERTAINLY WE DID NOT USE ONE DIME OF CAUCUS MONEY TO DO 43:00.246 --> 43:00.613 THAT. 43:00.613 --> 43:04.150 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, THE ISSUE THAT YOU SEE AS 43:04.150 --> 43:08.054 RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR LOSING THE POSTED SPEAKER WAS THE HEALTH 43:08.054 --> 43:10.957 INSURANCE EXCHANGE, HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT? 43:10.957 --> 43:14.227 WAS IT BECAUSE YOUR POSITION WAS DIFFERENT FROM CURRENT 43:14.227 --> 43:16.496 SPEAKER ON THE EXCHANGE? 43:16.496 --> 43:19.799 >> MY POSITION ON THE EXCHANGE WAS THAT IT WOULD NOT BE 43:19.799 --> 43:23.803 BROUGHT TO THE FLOOR OR NOT BE BROUGHT UP IN COMMITTEE UNTIL A 43:23.803 --> 43:26.706 MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WAS ON BOARD. 43:26.706 --> 43:30.710 AND THAT NEVER DID HAPPEN. 43:30.710 --> 43:35.181 >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 43:35.181 --> 43:38.351 COMPARED TO YOUR OPPONENT, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH LEADERSHIP 43:38.351 --> 43:40.720 EXPERIENCE TO FALL BACK ON IN THIS OFFICE. 43:40.720 --> 43:43.390 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DRAW ON TO MAKE SOME OF THESE TOUGH 43:43.390 --> 43:44.557 POLITICAL DECISIONS? 43:44.557 --> 43:49.029 >> WELL, THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASK ME WHEN I WAS RUNNING MY 43:49.029 --> 43:52.732 FIRST LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN, WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO ONCE YOU 43:52.732 --> 43:53.733 GET INTO OFFICE? 43:53.733 --> 43:57.037 I THINK THEY EXPECTED ME TO HAVE A THREE-POINT PLAN. 43:57.037 --> 44:00.040 WHAT I TOLD THEM WAS I WANT TO FORM THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT 44:00.040 --> 44:02.776 WILL BE THE BASIS FOR GOOD POLICY AND THE BASIS FOR THE 44:02.776 --> 44:07.347 REST OF MY SERVICE AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT I DID WHEN I GOT 44:07.347 --> 44:08.348 INTO THE LEGISLATURE. 44:08.348 --> 44:12.585 I HAVE WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIPS IN THE LEGISLATURE ACROSS THE 44:12.585 --> 44:18.158 AISLE AND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE THAT WILL GIVE ME THE 44:18.158 --> 44:21.428 ABILITY TO MAKE GOOD POLICY, TO WORK WITH LEGISLATORS, TO MAKE 44:21.428 --> 44:25.265 SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE POLLS, THAT WE'RE 44:25.265 --> 44:28.435 NOT LIMITING THAT ABILITY, AND I HAVE EXTREME CONFIDENCE IN MY 44:28.435 --> 44:31.171 ABILITY TO DO THAT. 44:31.171 --> 44:35.342 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM BETSY RUSSELL FOR REPRESENTATIVE 44:35.342 --> 44:35.909 WOODINGS. 44:35.909 --> 44:39.446 >> YESTERDAY AT THE BOISE CITY CLUB DEBATE, YOU SAID YOU 44:39.446 --> 44:43.717 INTRODUCED LEGISLATION THIS LAST YEAR TO END A RETIREMENT 44:43.717 --> 44:47.354 PERK FOR LONG-TIME LEGISLATORS WHO LATE IN THEIR CAREER HOLD A 44:47.354 --> 44:50.457 HIGH-PAYING STATE JOB, A PERK THAT OF COURSE WOULD BENEFIT 44:50.457 --> 44:53.360 YOUR OPPONENT SHOULD HE BE ELECTED. 44:53.360 --> 44:54.561 WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOUR BILL? 44:54.561 --> 44:56.763 YOU SAID IT DIDN'T PROCEED BECAUSE IT WAS SEEN AS 44:56.763 --> 44:57.297 POLITICAL. 44:57.297 --> 44:59.499 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT DID YOU DO? 44:59.499 --> 45:04.070 >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO AS A MEMBER OF THE 45:04.070 --> 45:07.841 MINORITY PARTY, OFTEN YOU HAVE TO FIND A MEMBER OF THE 45:07.841 --> 45:11.311 MAJORITY PARTY TO COSPONSOR A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WITH YOU. 45:11.311 --> 45:16.416 I SHOPPED THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION AROUND THE 45:16.416 --> 45:18.885 LEGISLATURE, MANY MEMBERS OF THE MAJORITY PARTY THOUGHT IT 45:18.885 --> 45:22.088 WAS A GREAT IDEA AND WERE VERY MUCH ON BOARD BUT FELT IT 45:22.088 --> 45:25.158 WASN'T THE YEAR TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS VERY POLITICAL. 45:25.158 --> 45:28.428 AND SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL COME BACK IN SUBSEQUENT 45:28.428 --> 45:33.366 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT THAT IS 45:33.366 --> 45:34.501 LIKELY THE CASE. 45:34.501 --> 45:38.538 >> YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, BETSY. 45:38.538 --> 45:40.807 >> YES, LET'S SEE. 45:40.807 --> 45:41.541 SORRY. 45:41.541 --> 45:43.610 GETTING THINGS MIXED UP HERE. 45:43.610 --> 45:46.646 IF YOU ARE ELECTED TO THIS POSITION, WOULD YOU STILL 45:46.646 --> 45:47.914 SUPPORT THAT CHANGE IN LAW? 45:47.914 --> 45:51.718 WOULD YOU WANT TO REMOVE THAT FROM IDAHO LAW? 45:51.718 --> 45:55.388 >> WHAT THAT LAW REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS AN ISSUE OF 45:55.388 --> 45:56.189 FAIRNESS. 45:56.189 --> 46:00.060 MANY PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE THAT A SITTING LEGISLATOR CAN TAKE ALL 46:00.060 --> 46:03.596 OF THE YEARS THAT THEY SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE, AND THEN IF 46:03.596 --> 46:06.966 THEY GET A HIGHER POSITION AT A HIGHER PAY, ALL OF THOSE YEARS 46:06.966 --> 46:10.303 THAT THEY SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE ARE NOW COUNTED AT 46:10.303 --> 46:13.139 THE HIGHER PAY LEVEL FOR PURPOSES OF THEIR RETIREMENT. 46:13.139 --> 46:17.243 SO, IN THE CASE OF MY OPPONENT, LAWERENCE, HIS RETIREMENT WOULD 46:17.243 --> 46:23.049 BE BOOSTED FROM $400 A MONTH SHOULD HE RETIRE TODAY, TO 46:23.049 --> 46:27.787 $3,600 A MONTH SHOULD HE RETIRE AT THE END OF A FOUR-YEAR TERM 46:27.787 --> 46:29.089 AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 46:29.089 --> 46:32.792 LEGISLATORS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR 46:32.792 --> 46:33.426 LOOPHOLE. 46:33.426 --> 46:35.628 SO, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THAT FAIR? 46:35.628 --> 46:38.865 WHY IS THAT FAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS OF IDAHO -- 46:38.865 --> 46:41.267 >> DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 46:41.267 --> 46:42.068 >> ABSOLUTELY. 46:42.068 --> 46:45.271 YOU KNOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, THAT -- THAT BILL WAS HEARD IN 46:45.271 --> 46:47.107 THE IDAHO LEGISLATURE. 46:47.107 --> 46:49.542 IT CAME BEFORE THE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. 46:49.542 --> 46:52.912 IT HAD A FULL HEARING AND IT WAS HELD BECAUSE THERE WERE 46:52.912 --> 46:55.815 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT THAT NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED AND THOSE 46:55.815 --> 46:59.452 ANSWERS WERE NOT FORTHCOMING. 46:59.452 --> 47:01.755 CONSEQUENTLY THE BILL WAS THEN HELD. 47:01.755 --> 47:05.291 I TOLD THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, IT'S TOO LATE IN THE SESSION. 47:05.291 --> 47:06.226 DON'T DO IT. 47:06.226 --> 47:11.297 I THINK THE REAL QUESTION THAT WE OUGHT TO BE ASKING IS NOT 47:11.297 --> 47:16.603 WHETHER REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS SHOULD BE ON THE -- 47:16.603 --> 47:23.243 SHOULD BE CREDITED A YEAR OF SERVICE FOR A YEAR OF TIME, I 47:23.243 --> 47:25.879 THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS SHOULD ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL BE 47:25.879 --> 47:27.781 ON THE PERCY SYSTEM AS ALL? 47:27.781 --> 47:32.419 AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BETTER ADDRESSED, 47:32.419 --> 47:37.590 I THINK IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE 47:37.590 --> 47:40.593 ON COMPENSATION SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AND NOT THE 47:40.593 --> 47:41.261 LEGISLATURE. 47:41.261 --> 47:43.596 >> YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP. 47:43.596 --> 47:48.068 >> AS YOUR OPPONENT POINTED OUT THAT YOUR RETIREMENT PENSION 47:48.068 --> 47:57.010 WOULD JUMP I THINK FROM -- I'M CURIOUS, HOW MUCH DID THAT 47:57.010 --> 48:00.547 WEIGH IN WHEN YOU WERE CONSIDERING MAKING A RUN FOR 48:00.547 --> 48:02.816 SECRETARY OF STATE -- >> ABSOLUTELY NONE. 48:02.816 --> 48:05.919 I WAS CERTAINLY NOT LOOKING AT THE RETIREMENT AS SOMETHING 48:05.919 --> 48:10.757 THAT WAS A -- THAT WAS PERKING MY INTEREST TO RUN FOR 48:10.757 --> 48:11.591 SECRETARY OF STATE. 48:11.591 --> 48:16.129 AND CERTAINLY, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WHILE, YES, MY RETIREMENT 48:16.129 --> 48:19.833 WOULD BE BUMPED UP, BUT THE SAME COULD BE SAID FOR ANY 48:19.833 --> 48:27.340 STATE EMPLOYEE THAT WENT FROM A $16,000 A YEAR JOB TO $100,000, 48:27.340 --> 48:30.310 THEIR RETIREMENT WOULD BE BUMPED IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF 48:30.310 --> 48:30.977 TIME. 48:30.977 --> 48:33.980 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE ARE CREDITED OUR TIME IN 48:33.980 --> 48:38.418 SERVICE IN THE LEGISLATURE, THE SAME AS IF WE WERE FULL-TIME 48:38.418 --> 48:41.321 EMPLOYEES, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT WE ARE 48:41.321 --> 48:44.257 FULL-TIME OR NOT FULL-TIME, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU 48:44.257 --> 48:47.527 KNOW, THAT I THINK THAT THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE ON 48:47.527 --> 48:48.695 COMPENSATION SHOULD LOOK AT. 48:48.695 --> 48:50.163 >> YOU WANTED TO RESPOND. 48:50.163 --> 48:52.699 >> YES, THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. 48:52.699 --> 48:55.902 STATE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME WAY. 48:55.902 --> 48:58.805 THEIR PENSIONS ARE BROKEN OUT BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT 48:58.805 --> 49:02.542 THEY MADE FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE AND IF THEY 49:02.542 --> 49:06.846 MAKE A HIGHER AMOUNT IN LATTER YEARS, THOSE ARE BROKEN OUT IN 49:06.846 --> 49:09.749 THE PERCY SYSTEM AND COMPENSATED IN THEIR RETIREMENT 49:09.749 --> 49:11.484 ACCORDINGLY. 49:11.484 --> 49:14.387 LEGISLATORS ARE THE ONLY STATE EMPLOYEES WHO RECEIVE THIS 49:14.387 --> 49:17.390 TREATMENT, AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR. 49:17.390 --> 49:19.325 >> BETSY, YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP. 49:19.325 --> 49:22.295 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, YOU SAID A MOMENT AGO, TO YOU THE 49:22.295 --> 49:26.399 REAL QUESTION IS SHOULD ELECTED OFFICIALS EVEN BE PART OF OUR 49:26.399 --> 49:27.867 STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM? 49:27.867 --> 49:28.968 DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD? 49:28.968 --> 49:33.073 >> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS ELECTED 49:33.073 --> 49:36.509 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 49:36.509 --> 49:40.980 AND I THINK THAT IF YOU REMOVE THE RETIREMENT PORTION TOTALLY 49:40.980 --> 49:44.884 FROM ALL LEGISLATORS, IF YOU REMOVE THAT RETIREMENT PORTION 49:44.884 --> 49:48.521 FROM ALL ELECTED OFFICERS, AND GIVE THEM THE COMPENSATION SO 49:48.521 --> 49:54.060 THAT THEY COULD PUT IT IN THEIR OWN 401-K OR WHATEVER, I THINK 49:54.060 --> 49:57.230 WE COULD DO THAT AND DO IT VERY PAINLESSLY. 49:57.230 --> 49:59.432 >> I'M CURIOUS -- REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS 49:59.432 --> 50:00.266 RESPONSE TO THAT. 50:00.266 --> 50:05.538 >> WELL, THE PERCY SYSTEM WORKS INCREDIBLY WELL AND MY STEPMOM 50:05.538 --> 50:10.443 WORKED FOR THE CITY OF BOISE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IS 50:10.443 --> 50:14.514 NOW ENJOYING HER PERCY RETIREMENT WHICH SHE EARNED 50:14.514 --> 50:17.751 VERY MUCH. 50:17.751 --> 50:24.124 TO ME AS A LEGISLATOR, IF I RETIRED TOMORROW, I WOULD 50:24.124 --> 50:25.358 PROBABLY GET $80 A MONTH. 50:25.358 --> 50:26.393 WHO REALLY CARES. 50:26.393 --> 50:29.362 BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGISLATORS OUT THERE WHO, YOU 50:29.362 --> 50:34.134 KNOW, IT IS A PERK OF PUBLIC SERVICE, AND IT IS A VERY SMALL 50:34.134 --> 50:37.470 PERK FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON'T GO INTO A HIGHER POSITION AFTER 50:37.470 --> 50:41.207 MANY YEARS IN THE LEGISLATURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO 50:41.207 --> 50:44.210 TALK TO THE MANY LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE SERVED MANY, MANY 50:44.210 --> 50:47.580 YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE TO THIS STATE BEFORE I TOOK A STANCE ON 50:47.580 --> 50:47.947 THAT. 50:47.947 --> 50:49.949 >> DID YOU WANT IT RESPOND TO THAT? 50:49.949 --> 50:54.754 >> AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ANY LEGISLATORS THAT 50:54.754 --> 50:58.892 TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RUNNING FOR OFFICE WITH THE 50:58.892 --> 50:59.793 RETIREMENT IN MIND. 50:59.793 --> 51:03.229 YOU KNOW, AND, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IF TOMORROW WE SAID THERE 51:03.229 --> 51:07.100 IS NO RETIREMENT FOR LEGISLATORS, NEW LEGISLATORS, 51:07.100 --> 51:11.237 SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, I 51:11.237 --> 51:14.641 THINK THAT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE EXACT SAME CANDIDATES THAT 51:14.641 --> 51:15.542 YOU HAVE NOW. 51:15.542 --> 51:17.811 I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE. 51:17.811 --> 51:23.183 AND I THINK THE PERCY SYSTEM IS WELL-RUN, AND I -- BUT I DON'T 51:23.183 --> 51:26.753 THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER ELECTED OFFICIALS 51:26.753 --> 51:28.555 SHOULD BE ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 51:28.555 --> 51:30.824 >> WE HAVE GOT A LITTLE LESS THAN A MINUTE LEFT. 51:30.824 --> 51:35.528 >> WOULD YOU ADVOCATE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE OUTLINED, DOING AWAY 51:35.528 --> 51:38.398 WITH PERCY COVERAGE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS? 51:38.398 --> 51:41.768 >> YOU KNOW, AS SECRETARY OF STATE, I PROBABLY WON'T BE 51:41.768 --> 51:42.769 ADVOCATING FOR THAT. 51:42.769 --> 51:46.473 BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE ALL ELECTED 51:46.473 --> 51:50.210 OFFICIALS OFF OF THE PERCY SYSTEM. 51:50.210 --> 51:54.047 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS WOULD YOU LIKE IT RESPOND? 51:54.047 --> 51:54.948 >> THAT'S OKAY. 51:54.948 --> 51:57.050 THANK YOU. 51:57.050 --> 52:00.153 >> WELL, WE ARE -- WE'RE ABOUT OUT OF TIME. 52:00.153 --> 52:02.422 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? 52:02.422 --> 52:04.257 >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 52:04.257 --> 52:08.161 AND THANK YOU TO IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION, BOISE STATE 52:08.161 --> 52:11.865 UNIVERSITY, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, IDAHO PRESS CLUB AND 52:11.865 --> 52:18.738 MANY PEOPLE WHO TUNED IN TONIGHT EITHER OVER THE AIR, OR 52:18.738 --> 52:19.439 ONLINE. 52:19.439 --> 52:25.712 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE SHOULD BE A NONPARTISAN 52:25.712 --> 52:27.714 POSITION. 52:27.714 --> 52:31.885 AS YOUR SECRETARY OF STATE, I WILL RUN A FAIR AND HONEST 52:31.885 --> 52:34.654 OFFICE AND I WILL DO SO IMPARTIALLY. 52:34.654 --> 52:37.724 I WILL UPDATE THE OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY, CONTINUE SAME-DAY 52:37.724 --> 52:41.094 VOTER REGISTRATION, PUSH FOR VOTER REGISTRATION AT THE DMV, 52:41.094 --> 52:44.564 AND WORK PROACTIVELY TO GIVE ALL IDAHO CITIZENS AN 52:44.564 --> 52:48.468 OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR DEMOCRACY. 52:48.468 --> 52:52.639 ASSURING YOU AND YOUR NEIGHBORS HAVE ACCESS TO THE VOTE DOES 52:52.639 --> 52:54.207 NOT HAPPEN ON ITS OWN. 52:54.207 --> 53:00.714 IT TAKES HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO A FAIR AND HONEST 53:00.714 --> 53:01.881 ELECTORAL SYSTEM. 53:01.881 --> 53:02.882 LET ME MAKE CLEAR. 53:02.882 --> 53:06.686 WE CAN HAVE ELECTORAL ACCESS AND ELECTORAL INTEGRITY. 53:06.686 --> 53:09.255 THE TWO ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 53:09.255 --> 53:16.796 FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS, IDAHOANS HAVE RELIED ON TWO SECRETARY OF 53:16.796 --> 53:20.266 STATE TO RUN OUR ELECTIONS IN A FAIRWAY. 53:20.266 --> 53:22.268 I PLAN TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION. 53:22.268 --> 53:25.438 IT IS WHAT YOU HAVE COME TO EXPECT, WHAT YOU DESERVE AND MY 53:25.438 --> 53:27.707 COMMITMENT TO YOU AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 53:27.707 --> 53:31.378 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING AN INTEREST IN THIS RACE. 53:31.378 --> 53:35.548 MY NAME IS HOLLI WOODINGS, I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE AND THANK YOU 53:35.548 --> 53:36.816 FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. 53:36.816 --> 53:40.353 >> WELL, THANK YOU, MELISSA, AND THANK YOU TO THE PANEL FOR 53:40.353 --> 53:42.288 THE GREAT QUESTIONS. 53:42.288 --> 53:48.094 I WAS ASKED THE OTHER DAY WHY DO YOU LIKE DOING THIS 53:48.094 --> 53:48.928 POLITICAL THING? 53:48.928 --> 53:53.199 AND IT KIND OF SET ME BACK AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 53:53.199 --> 53:54.901 IT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 53:54.901 --> 53:58.071 AND THE ANSWER IS I REALLY DON'T LIKE DOING THIS POLITICAL 53:58.071 --> 53:58.672 THING. 53:58.672 --> 54:03.576 AND WHO WOULD LIKE HAVING THEIR NAME PUT OUT THERE AND DRUG 54:03.576 --> 54:08.982 THROUGH THE MUD AND HAVE YOUR MOTIVES NOT ONLY QUESTIONED, 54:08.982 --> 54:13.053 BUT ALSO TOLD WHAT YOUR MOTIVES ARE IN THE WORST POSSIBLE 54:13.053 --> 54:13.687 LIGHT. 54:13.687 --> 54:18.058 AND WHO WOULD LIKE HAVING THEIR CHARACTER AND THEIR INTEGRITY 54:18.058 --> 54:18.792 QUESTIONED? 54:18.792 --> 54:21.261 CERTAINLY THE ANSWER IS NO ONE. 54:21.261 --> 54:24.164 SO, WHY DO I DO THIS? 54:24.164 --> 54:27.801 WELL, I STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH THE IDEA THAT I COULD 54:27.801 --> 54:28.868 MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 54:28.868 --> 54:33.006 AND I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE. 54:33.006 --> 54:37.811 I FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT MY KIDS, MY 54:37.811 --> 54:41.181 GRANDKIDS, AND THE FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN TASTE THE 54:41.181 --> 54:44.818 FREEDOM THAT I HAVE ENJOYED IN MY LIFE. 54:44.818 --> 54:50.824 AS RONALD REAGAN ONCE SAID, FREEDOM IS ONLY ONE GENERATION 54:50.824 --> 54:52.192 AWAY FROM EXTINCTION. 54:52.192 --> 54:58.198 WE DON'T PASS IT ON IN THE BLOODSTREAM, WE HAVE TO -- WE 54:58.198 --> 55:02.335 MUST FIGHT FOR IT AND PASS IT ON SO THAT THE NEXT GENERATION 55:02.335 --> 55:04.571 CAN DO THE SAME. 55:04.571 --> 55:05.872 FOLKS, THAT'S MY MOTIVATION. 55:05.872 --> 55:07.240 THANK YOU AGAIN. 55:07.240 --> 55:08.141 >> ALL RIGHT. 55:08.141 --> 55:11.845 THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE TIME. 55:11.845 --> 55:14.514 THANKS AGAIN TO THE CANDIDATES FOR THEIR TIME TONIGHT. 55:14.514 --> 55:16.883 THANKS TO THE REPORTERS FOR THEIR GREAT QUESTIONS AND TO 55:16.883 --> 55:19.586 OUR VIEWERS AT HOME FOR WATCHING. 55:19.586 --> 55:24.257 YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE AND OTHER CANDIDATES ON OUR WEB 55:24.257 --> 55:29.629 SITE, idahoptv.org idahoptv.org/ELECTIONS/2014. 55:29.629 --> 55:32.165 WHILE THERE, CHECK OUT ANY DEBATES THAT YOU MISSED. 55:32.165 --> 55:37.070 THURSDAY NIGHT AT 7:00 P.M., TWO CANDIDATES FOR IDAHO'S 5th 55:37.070 --> 55:38.338 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT IN THE U.S. 55:38.338 --> 55:41.374 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WILL TAKE THE STAGE. 55:41.374 --> 55:44.277 FOLLOWED BY THE TREASURERS DEBATE. 55:44.277 --> 55:49.015 MORE DEBATES COMING UP THIS MONTH. 55:49.015 --> 55:49.649 THANKS SO MUCH. 55:49.649 --> 55:50.383 GOOD NIGHT. 55:50.383 --> 56:00.326 WE WILL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS. 56:04.230 --> 56:05.598 Captioning Performed by LNS Captioning www.lnscaptioning.com 56:24.317 --> 56:41.534 >> THE IDAHO DEBATES MADE POSSIBLE BY: IDAHO DEBATES ALSO 56:41.534 --> 56:44.537 BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE IDAHO 56:44.537 --> 56:45.638 PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 56:45.638 --> 56:48.541 THANK YOU.