1 00:00:04,871 --> 00:00:06,906 >>> WELCOME TO IDAHO DEBATES, A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES ON 2 00:00:06,906 --> 00:00:08,708 THE 2014 BALLOT. 3 00:00:08,708 --> 00:00:11,611 THE IDAHO DEBATES IS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE 4 00:00:11,611 --> 00:00:16,116 IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE LEAGUE S OF IDAHO, AND IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION. 5 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:18,451 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY BOISE STATE 6 00:00:18,451 --> 00:00:21,454 UNIVERSITY'S SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SERVICE, DEVOTED TO 7 00:00:21,454 --> 00:00:24,290 BUILDING FUTURE CIVIC AND COMMUNITY LEADERS THROUGH 8 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:28,194 INTERDISCIPLINARY PROBLEM SOLVING, REAL-WORLD RESEARCH 9 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:32,198 AND POLICY STUDIES, AND THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE YOU CAN 10 00:00:32,198 --> 00:00:34,634 ONLY GET HERE AT THE STATE CAPITOL. 11 00:00:34,634 --> 00:00:37,203 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU BY 12 00:00:37,203 --> 00:00:39,205 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 13 00:00:39,205 --> 00:00:42,375 THANK YOU. 14 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:46,146 >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES AT THE IDAHO 15 00:00:46,146 --> 00:00:47,213 PUBLIC TELEVISION STUDIOS. 16 00:00:47,213 --> 00:00:49,416 THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVEN DEBATES WE'RE HOSTING BEFORE 17 00:00:49,416 --> 00:00:51,151 THE NOVEMBER 4th ELECTION. 18 00:00:51,151 --> 00:00:53,486 TONIGHT, THE TWO CANDIDATES FOR SECRETARY OF STATE TAKE 19 00:00:53,486 --> 00:00:57,057 THE STAGE TO ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. 20 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,959 THE SECRETARY OF STATE ADMINISTERS THE ELECTION LAWS, 21 00:00:59,959 --> 00:01:01,961 COMPILES AND PUBLISHES THE ELECTION CALENDAR, AND 22 00:01:01,961 --> 00:01:02,862 CERTIFIES VOTES. 23 00:01:02,862 --> 00:01:04,964 THE OFFICE ALSO ADMINISTERS THE SUNSHINE LAW FOR CAMPAIGN 24 00:01:04,964 --> 00:01:07,167 FINANCE AND LOBBYIST ACTIVITY DISCLOSURE. 25 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:09,336 THE SECRETARY OF STATE HANDLES TRADEMARKS, FINANCING 26 00:01:09,336 --> 00:01:13,440 STATEMENTS, AND OTHER BUSINESS DOCUMENTS, AND HAS 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,507 A SEAT ON THE LAND BOARD. 28 00:01:14,507 --> 00:01:16,810 I WANT TO WELCOME CANDIDATES LAWERENCE DENNEY AND HOLLI 29 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:18,345 WOODINGS. 30 00:01:18,345 --> 00:01:20,714 REPRESENTATIVE LAWERENCE DENNEY HAS SERVED A TOTAL OF 31 00:01:20,714 --> 00:01:23,283 10 TERMS IN THE IDAHO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 32 00:01:23,283 --> 00:01:25,385 HE SERVED AS ASSISTANT MAJORITY LEADER, MAJORITY 33 00:01:25,385 --> 00:01:27,887 LEADER, AND THREE TERMS AS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. 34 00:01:27,887 --> 00:01:30,724 REPRESENTATIVE HOLLI WOODINGS HAS SERVED ONE TERM IN THE 35 00:01:30,724 --> 00:01:32,092 IDAHO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 36 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:35,362 SHE SERVED ON THE STATE AFFAIRS, ENERGY, AND 37 00:01:35,362 --> 00:01:37,664 ENVIRONMENT AND TECHNOLOGY, AND COMMERCIAL AND HUMAN 38 00:01:37,664 --> 00:01:38,832 RESOURCE COMMITTEES. 39 00:01:38,832 --> 00:01:40,734 I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS WHO WILL 40 00:01:40,734 --> 00:01:41,735 ASK THE CANDIDATES QUESTIONS. 41 00:01:41,735 --> 00:01:44,004 BETSY RUSSELL WITH "THE SPOKESMAN REVIEW." 42 00:01:44,004 --> 00:01:45,939 SCOTT GRAF WITH THE BOISE STATE PUBLIC RADIO, AND 43 00:01:45,939 --> 00:01:48,675 KIMBERLEE KRUESI WITH "THE ASSOCIATED PRESS." 44 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:51,911 I'M MELISSA DAVLIN, COHOST OF "IDAHO REPORTS" HERE ON 45 00:01:51,911 --> 00:01:53,680 IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION. 46 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,781 I'M MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE. 47 00:01:54,781 --> 00:01:57,684 TO REMIND THE CANDIDATES HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN TALKING IS 48 00:01:57,684 --> 00:01:59,853 RICHARD McBRIDE, VOLUNTEER TIMEKEEPER FROM THE LEAGUE OF 49 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:01,154 WOMEN VOTERS. 50 00:02:01,154 --> 00:02:04,157 EACH CANDIDATE WILL BE GIVEN ONE MINUTE FOR OPENING 51 00:02:04,157 --> 00:02:06,159 COMMENTS, AND 90 SECONDS FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS. 52 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:08,228 WE FLIPPED A COIN A FEW MINUTES AGO TO SEE WHO WOULD 53 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:10,330 GO FIRST. 54 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:12,732 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 55 00:02:12,732 --> 00:02:16,636 THANK YOU TO IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION, LEAGUE OF WOMEN 56 00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:22,108 VOTERS, IDAHO PRESS CLUB AND BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY. 57 00:02:22,108 --> 00:02:26,446 I'M HOLLI WOODINGS -- THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, 58 00:02:26,446 --> 00:02:27,180 IMPORTANT MISSION. 59 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:29,649 NO OTHER STATE OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE 60 00:02:29,649 --> 00:02:32,185 PUBLIC TRUST IN SUCH A FUNDAMENTAL WAY. 61 00:02:32,185 --> 00:02:36,122 OUR ELECTIONS ARE CRITICAL TO ENSURE OUR VOICES OUR HEARD. 62 00:02:36,122 --> 00:02:39,459 THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THE ELECTION PROCESS SHOULD NOT BE 63 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:44,197 TAINTED BY EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF SELF-SERVING POLITICS. 64 00:02:44,197 --> 00:02:48,001 FROM THE TIME YOU REGISTER TO VOTE UNTIL THE TIME YOUR VOTE 65 00:02:48,001 --> 00:02:51,771 IS COUNTED, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO TRUST OUR ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN 66 00:02:51,771 --> 00:02:56,042 CONDUCTED IN AN EVEN-HANDED, FAIR, AND HONEST WAY. 67 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:59,145 AS YOUR SECRETARY OF STATE, MY FIRST PRIORITY WILL BE TO 68 00:02:59,145 --> 00:03:02,248 MAINTAIN YOUR TRUST IN ELECTIONS, IT IS WHAT YOU HAVE 69 00:03:02,248 --> 00:03:02,982 COME TO EXPECT. 70 00:03:02,982 --> 00:03:04,517 IT'S WHAT YOU DESERVE. 71 00:03:04,517 --> 00:03:09,689 AND IT'S MY PROMISE TO YOU AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 72 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:10,423 THANK YOU. 73 00:03:10,423 --> 00:03:11,624 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 74 00:03:11,624 --> 00:03:15,495 >> I, TOO, WANT TO THANK THE PRESS CLUB, LEAGUE OF WOMEN 75 00:03:15,495 --> 00:03:21,001 VOTERS, IDAHO PUBLIC TV AND BSU. 76 00:03:21,001 --> 00:03:25,705 AS A LIFE-LONG IDAHOAN, WITH EXPERIENCE AS A FARMER, A 77 00:03:25,705 --> 00:03:29,175 MINER, A LOGGER, AND BUSINESSMAN, I UNDERSTAND 78 00:03:29,175 --> 00:03:29,642 IDAHO. 79 00:03:29,642 --> 00:03:32,645 I WILL LEAVE MY PARTISANSHIP AT THE DOOR. 80 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:35,915 I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS CAN BE 81 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:42,288 DONE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR PREDECESSORS, PETE CENARRUSA. 82 00:03:42,288 --> 00:03:45,125 HE WAS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PETE 83 00:03:45,125 --> 00:03:46,359 WAS A PARTISAN. 84 00:03:46,359 --> 00:03:50,296 AND I BELIEVE THAT I CAN FOLLOW IN THOSE FOOTSTEPS AND I CAN 85 00:03:50,296 --> 00:03:53,133 LEAVE MY PARTISANSHIP AT THE DOOR. 86 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:56,903 I WILL WORK JUST AS MY PREDECESSORS HAVE TO SAFEGUARD 87 00:03:56,903 --> 00:04:01,074 THE INTEGRITY OF THE OFFICE, FURTHERING THE LEGACY OF 88 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:04,678 TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS SO INTEGRAL TO THE MISSION OF 89 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:05,512 SECRETARY OF STATE. 90 00:04:05,512 --> 00:04:10,850 I RESPECT IDAHO'S LAND, AND THE VALUE IT BRINGS TO OUR GREAT 91 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:11,217 STATE. 92 00:04:11,217 --> 00:04:14,988 IN MY ROLE ON THE LAND BOARD, I WILL WORK TO GET THE LAND BOARD 93 00:04:14,988 --> 00:04:19,693 OUT OF COMPETITION WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS, WHILE MAXIMIZING THE 94 00:04:19,693 --> 00:04:22,162 RETURNS FOR THE STATE ENDOWMENTS. 95 00:04:22,162 --> 00:04:22,595 THANK YOU. 96 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:23,096 >> ALL RIGHT. 97 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:23,997 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 98 00:04:23,997 --> 00:04:27,801 AND THE FIRST QUESTION GOES TO REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY FROM 99 00:04:27,801 --> 00:04:29,336 BETSY RUSSELL. 100 00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:31,805 >> NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR OPPONENT HAVE EVER WORKED IN 101 00:04:31,805 --> 00:04:35,642 THE COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE OR IN THE STATE SECRETARY OF 102 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:38,078 STATE'S OFFICE. 103 00:04:38,078 --> 00:04:44,451 YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE LIKE YSURSA DID WHEN HE WAS 104 00:04:44,451 --> 00:04:46,720 ELECTED TO THIS POSITION. 105 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,657 SO, WHY SHOULD THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO TRUST YOU IN THAT 106 00:04:50,657 --> 00:04:51,091 POSITION? 107 00:04:51,091 --> 00:04:54,361 >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 108 00:04:54,361 --> 00:04:57,030 AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF 109 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:59,499 EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING AN ELECTION. 110 00:04:59,499 --> 00:05:02,035 I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF 111 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:04,237 EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING ELECTIONS. 112 00:05:04,237 --> 00:05:10,310 WE HAVE 44 COUNTY CLERKS THAT DO HAVE EXPERIENCE, WE ALSO 113 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:13,847 HAVE THE STAFF AT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE THAT KNOW 114 00:05:13,847 --> 00:05:17,784 WHAT'S GOING ON, AND WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO REMAIN ON. 115 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:22,055 I THINK -- THINK THAT IS THE CRITICAL PART. 116 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:25,859 HIRING GOOD STAFF AND TRUSTING THE COUNTY CLERKS TO DO THE JOB 117 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:29,996 THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. 118 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:33,967 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, SAME QUESTION. 119 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:36,369 >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. 120 00:05:36,369 --> 00:05:39,272 THE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, 121 00:05:39,272 --> 00:05:41,875 CHALK FULL OF EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. 122 00:05:41,875 --> 00:05:45,011 EMPLOYEES OF THAT OFFICE HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB FOR MANY 123 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:45,645 YEARS. 124 00:05:45,645 --> 00:05:50,283 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THEIR ENTHUSIASM 125 00:05:50,283 --> 00:05:52,719 SHOULD I WIN THIS RACE AND STAY IN THE OFFICE. 126 00:05:52,719 --> 00:05:55,655 SO, I THINK THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 127 00:05:55,655 --> 00:05:57,657 THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT I SERVE ON THE 128 00:05:57,657 --> 00:06:01,961 STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND THAT IS WITH ARE WE OVERSEE THE 129 00:06:01,961 --> 00:06:03,296 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. 130 00:06:03,296 --> 00:06:05,765 EVERY BIT OF LEGISLATION THAT AFFECTS THE OFFICE AND ALL OF 131 00:06:05,765 --> 00:06:07,867 THE RULES COME THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE. 132 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:11,771 I HAVE BECOME VERY CLOSELY AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT THE 133 00:06:11,771 --> 00:06:14,941 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE DOES AND THE MANY CHALLENGES 134 00:06:14,941 --> 00:06:17,777 AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE OFFICE HAS IN THE YEARS TO 135 00:06:17,777 --> 00:06:18,311 COME. 136 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:19,045 >> FOLLOW-UP. 137 00:06:19,045 --> 00:06:22,148 >> I DO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP FOR BOTH CANDIDATES BASED ON YOUR 138 00:06:22,148 --> 00:06:22,682 ANSWER. 139 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:25,418 YOU BOTH TALKED ABOUT KEEPING THE STAFF THAT IS NOW IN PLACE 140 00:06:25,418 --> 00:06:29,089 IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. 141 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:31,424 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, REALISTICY, YOU WOULD BE THE 142 00:06:31,424 --> 00:06:33,727 FIRST DEMOCRAT IN THIS OFFICE SINCE 1967. 143 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:39,599 ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT ANXIETY OR MAYBE EVEN DECENT AMONG 144 00:06:39,599 --> 00:06:42,335 STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED ONLY WITH REPUBLICANS -- 145 00:06:42,335 --> 00:06:44,537 >> I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE OFFICE OVER THE PAST 146 00:06:44,537 --> 00:06:47,374 SEVERAL MONTHS AND GETTING TO KNOW THE FOLKS WHO WORK THERE 147 00:06:47,374 --> 00:06:47,607 NOW. 148 00:06:47,607 --> 00:06:49,542 I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AT ALL. 149 00:06:49,542 --> 00:06:59,586 ACTUALLY I THINK THEY'RE A HIGHLY NONPARTISAN BUNCH. 150 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:02,022 -- I DON'T SEE A CONCERN WITH THAT AT ALL. 151 00:07:02,022 --> 00:07:04,391 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, YOU SAID REPEATEDLY THAT MOST OF 152 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:07,193 THE STAFF IN THIS OFFICE CAN'T BE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY'RE 153 00:07:07,193 --> 00:07:09,662 CLASSIFIED STATE EMPLOYEES WHOSE JOBS ARE PROTECTED. 154 00:07:09,662 --> 00:07:13,333 ALL EMPLOYEES OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SERVE AT THE 155 00:07:13,333 --> 00:07:14,401 OFFICIAL'S PLEASURE. 156 00:07:14,401 --> 00:07:17,337 KNOWING THAT, DO YOU STILL PROMISE, IF ELECTED, TO FOLLOW 157 00:07:17,337 --> 00:07:20,140 THE LONG TRADITION OF KEEPING THE STAFF IN PLACE IN THE 158 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:21,241 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE? 159 00:07:21,241 --> 00:07:22,609 >> ABSOLUTELY. 160 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:25,879 I THINK FOR CONTINUITY OF THE OFFICE, I THINK KEEPING THAT 161 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:29,716 STAFF IN PLACE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE CRITICAL THINGS THAT 162 00:07:29,716 --> 00:07:32,786 YOU HAVE TO DO. 163 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:37,157 CERTAINLY I AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE STAFF WHEN I FIRST GET 164 00:07:37,157 --> 00:07:37,490 THERE. 165 00:07:37,490 --> 00:07:40,794 YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME RETIREMENTS. 166 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:44,497 IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE WILL GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE 167 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:48,268 CHIEF DEPUTY AND WE WILL TRY TO REPLACE THEM WITH WELL 168 00:07:48,268 --> 00:07:50,537 QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. 169 00:07:50,537 --> 00:07:51,438 >> ALL RIGHT. 170 00:07:51,438 --> 00:07:54,341 NEXT QUESTION IS REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY FROM SCOTT GRAF. 171 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:56,376 >> THANK YOU. 172 00:07:56,376 --> 00:07:59,946 REPRESENTATIVE, AT WHAT POINT DOES FRAUD PREVENTION OBSTRUCT 173 00:07:59,946 --> 00:08:03,283 THE CITIZENS RIGHT TO VOTE, LEGITIMATE VOTE? 174 00:08:03,283 --> 00:08:07,654 >> SCOTT, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY TIME THAT FRAUD 175 00:08:07,654 --> 00:08:12,392 PREVENTION OBSTRUCTS A RIGHT TO VOTE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE 176 00:08:12,392 --> 00:08:17,297 HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELECTIONS ARE HONEST AND FAIR 177 00:08:17,297 --> 00:08:19,566 AND THAT THERE IS NO FRAUD. 178 00:08:19,566 --> 00:08:23,603 I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT 179 00:08:23,603 --> 00:08:30,143 DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO AS 180 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:31,044 SECRETARY OF STATE. 181 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:33,680 >> NEXT QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS FROM 182 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:34,614 SCOTT GRAF. 183 00:08:34,614 --> 00:08:40,153 >> AT WHAT POINT DOES CONVENIENCE AND EASE OF VOTING 184 00:08:40,153 --> 00:08:42,589 COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF AN ELECTION? 185 00:08:42,589 --> 00:08:44,591 >> WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 186 00:08:44,591 --> 00:08:49,963 I TALK A LOT ABOUT CONVENIENCE AND INCREASING ACCESS TO THE 187 00:08:49,963 --> 00:08:50,430 POLLS. 188 00:08:50,430 --> 00:08:54,434 AND WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT SYSTEM IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT 189 00:08:54,434 --> 00:08:57,737 SECURES THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS, AND THAT IS THROUGH 190 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:58,838 OUR COUNTY CLERKS. 191 00:08:58,838 --> 00:09:02,909 THEY DO A TREMENDOUS JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR ELECTIONS 192 00:09:02,909 --> 00:09:05,378 ARE COMPOSED IN A SECURE WAY. 193 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:08,948 MY OPPONENT, ON THE OTHER HAND, DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S 194 00:09:08,948 --> 00:09:13,119 TRUE AND HAS ACTUALLY PROPOSED THAT WE START TAKING 195 00:09:13,119 --> 00:09:16,222 FINGERSPRINTS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE'S IDENTITY 196 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:17,590 AT THE POLLS. 197 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:20,493 I THINK THAT IS AN INFRINGEMENT OF PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND 198 00:09:20,493 --> 00:09:22,662 SOMETHING THAT IDAHOANS AREN'T WILLING TO DO. 199 00:09:22,662 --> 00:09:26,666 I WOULD OPPOSE ANY EFFORT TO PUT ADDITIONAL BARRIERS IN 200 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:29,235 BETWEEN VOTERS AND THEIR BALLOTS. 201 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:31,204 >> IF I MIGHT RESPOND TO THAT, I THINK -- 202 00:09:31,204 --> 00:09:32,405 >> PLEASE, DO. 203 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:37,677 >> I THINK THAT WHILE I DID SAY FINGERPRINTS IN A GUEST 204 00:09:37,677 --> 00:09:41,414 EDITORIAL, CERTAINLY I WAS NOT IN -- THAT WE SHOULD 205 00:09:41,414 --> 00:09:43,316 FINGERPRINT ALL VOTERS BEFORE THEY VOTE. 206 00:09:43,316 --> 00:09:46,786 I WAS TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY THAT IS AVAILABLE, AND THE SAME 207 00:09:46,786 --> 00:09:51,324 TECHNOLOGY FOR SCANNING SIGNATURES AND FOR SCANNING 208 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:52,525 FINGERPRINTS IS THE SAME. 209 00:09:52,525 --> 00:09:57,497 AND I THINK ONCE YOU SCAN A SIGNATURE, YOU KNOW THAT THE 210 00:09:57,497 --> 00:10:01,801 PERSON WHO IS VOTING IS THE PERSON WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE. 211 00:10:01,801 --> 00:10:05,538 I WILL NOT GIVE UP THE SECURITY OF THE BALLOT FOR CONVENIENCE. 212 00:10:05,538 --> 00:10:07,907 >> CAN I RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE? 213 00:10:07,907 --> 00:10:08,708 >> PLEASE DO. 214 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:12,812 >> WE CURRENTLY USE SIGNATURE SCANNING IN OUR ELECTIONS, THAT 215 00:10:12,812 --> 00:10:16,883 IS AN INTERESTING TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ALREADY USE TO SECURE 216 00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:18,818 THE INTEGRITY OF OUR BALLOTS. 217 00:10:18,818 --> 00:10:20,653 >> AND MAY I RESPOND AGAIN? 218 00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:21,454 >> PLEASE DO. 219 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:25,925 >> WE DO USE THAT TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE SCAN THE SIGNATURES AND 220 00:10:25,925 --> 00:10:29,829 IT IS MANUALLY COMPARED WITH THE WRITTEN SIGNATURE ON THE 221 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:30,196 CARDS. 222 00:10:30,196 --> 00:10:35,735 WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY NOW TO SCAN THOSE AND ELECTRONICALLY 223 00:10:35,735 --> 00:10:38,405 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE CORRECT. 224 00:10:38,405 --> 00:10:39,372 >> A FOLLOW-UP. 225 00:10:39,372 --> 00:10:43,043 >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SAME-DAY REGISTRATION. 226 00:10:43,043 --> 00:10:48,648 IDAHO IS ONE OF A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT HAS SAME-DAY 227 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:49,582 REGISTRATIONS. 228 00:10:49,582 --> 00:10:51,384 CURIOUS TO HEAR BOTH YOUR OPINIONS ON THAT PROCESS, IF 229 00:10:51,384 --> 00:10:54,054 YOU LIKE IT, WHY YOU DO OR DON'T AND IF YOU ARE ELECTED DO 230 00:10:54,054 --> 00:10:56,589 YOU PLAN TO KEEP IT IN PLACE? 231 00:10:56,589 --> 00:10:58,158 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, PLEASE. 232 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:00,060 >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 233 00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:03,229 YOU KNOW, I THINK SAME-DAY REGISTRATION IS ONE OF THOSE 234 00:11:03,229 --> 00:11:07,434 THINGS THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE STATE OF IDAHO HAD THE 235 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:12,906 CHOICE TO EITHER GO TO SAME-DAY REGISTRATION OR GO TO 236 00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:15,809 MOTOR-VOTER, WHICH YOU ARE REGISTERED WHEN YOU GO TO THE 237 00:11:15,809 --> 00:11:20,880 DMV OR WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR FOOD STAMPS OR THE LIKE. 238 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,018 SAME-DAY REGISTRATION I THINK AT TIMES OVERWHELMS THE SYSTEM. 239 00:11:25,018 --> 00:11:27,554 I THINK THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND 240 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:30,023 REGISTER TO VOTE ON THE SAME DAY. 241 00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:43,269 IN 2008, THERE WERE OVER 40,000 SAME-DAY REJ STRANTS, AND I 242 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:46,206 THOUGHT SOMEONE SHOULD CHECK OUT THOSE REGISTRATIONS AND I 243 00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:50,310 ASKED FOR A COPY TO SEND AN INTERN OUT TO CHECK OUT THE 244 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:50,844 ADDRESSES. 245 00:11:50,844 --> 00:11:53,013 THAT WAS IN JANUARY OF 2009. 246 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:56,383 I DIDN'T GET THAT LIST UNTIL MARCH. 247 00:11:56,383 --> 00:11:58,251 THAT'S FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE ELECTION. 248 00:11:58,251 --> 00:12:03,990 AND I THINK THERE IS SOME WAYS THAT FRAUD CAN BE PERPETUATED 249 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:09,329 IN NOT HAVING THAT DONE INSTANTANEOUS 250 00:12:09,329 --> 00:12:09,696 INSTANTANEOUSLY. 251 00:12:09,696 --> 00:12:10,330 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 252 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:11,097 >> THANK YOU. 253 00:12:11,097 --> 00:12:15,535 I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT -- VOTES THE REGISTRATION BILL THAT I 254 00:12:15,535 --> 00:12:18,638 PROPOSED IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 255 00:12:18,638 --> 00:12:23,643 -- ON THIS MATTER, IN 2007, IN A "NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED, HE 256 00:12:23,643 --> 00:12:26,713 SAID THE SAME DAY VOTER REGISTRATION IS A GREAT 257 00:12:26,713 --> 00:12:28,915 CONVENIENCE FOR IDAHO VOTERS. 258 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:32,252 IT DOES STILL ENSURE THE SANCTITY OF THE BALLOT AND IT 259 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:35,555 GIVES THAT EXTRA LEVEL OF CONVENIENCE TO THE VOTERS OF 260 00:12:35,555 --> 00:12:36,289 IDAHO. 261 00:12:36,289 --> 00:12:39,192 SO, I VERY MUCH SUPPORT SAME-DAY VOTER REGISTRATION. 262 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:43,196 IT ACTUALLY SHOWS IN STATES THAT HAVE IT AN INCREASE OF 10 263 00:12:43,196 --> 00:12:46,733 TO 12% IN PARTICIPATION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I VERY 264 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:47,567 MUCH SUPPORT. 265 00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:51,037 >> AND -- >> A QUICK FOLLOW-UP. 266 00:12:51,037 --> 00:12:54,541 >> ARE YOU SAYING IF ELECTED, YOU WOULD DO AWAY WITH SAME-DAY 267 00:12:54,541 --> 00:12:55,642 REGISTRATION IN IDAHO? 268 00:12:55,642 --> 00:12:56,743 >> ACTUALLY, NO. 269 00:12:56,743 --> 00:12:58,945 THAT IS A POLICY DECISION, BETSY. 270 00:12:58,945 --> 00:13:03,350 IF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR DECIDED TO DO THAT, WE 271 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:04,784 WOULD ENFORCE THE LAW. 272 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:07,687 BUT I AM NOT ADVOCATING THAT AT ALL. 273 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:08,788 >> THE NEXT QUESTION. 274 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,223 THE NEXT FOLLOW-UP. 275 00:13:10,223 --> 00:13:12,692 >> A QUICK FOLLOW-UP HERE. 276 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:16,796 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE HAS ONE OF THE SMALLEST BUDGETS OUT 277 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:19,733 OF IDAHO'S SEVEN STATEWIDE ELECTED POSITIONS. 278 00:13:19,733 --> 00:13:24,337 HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE SPENT FOR ENHANCING SECURITY 279 00:13:24,337 --> 00:13:27,707 FOR -- >> I THINK THAT IS A CASE THAT 280 00:13:27,707 --> 00:13:30,877 HAS TO BE MADE BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. 281 00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:34,080 AND CERTAINLY IF WE CAN FIND THE TECHNOLOGY AND IT IS AT A 282 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,649 REASONABLE PRICE, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE 283 00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:37,450 SHOULD DO. 284 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:38,718 I'M ALL ABOUT SECURITY. 285 00:13:38,718 --> 00:13:44,124 I THINK THAT THE MORE SECURITY THAT WE HAVE, THE MORE 286 00:13:44,124 --> 00:13:47,660 CONFIDENCE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF IDAHO WOULD PLACE 287 00:13:47,660 --> 00:13:48,828 IN THEIR ELECTIONS. 288 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,730 >> I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT. 289 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:52,899 OUR ELECTIONS ARE ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTIES. 290 00:13:52,899 --> 00:13:55,201 MUCH OF THAT EXPENSE GOES DOWN TO THE COUNTY LEVEL. 291 00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:59,305 WE ALL KNOW THAT OUR COUNTIES ARE EXTREMELY CASH STRAPPED. 292 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:02,876 ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS WOULD HAVE TO BE CAREFULLY MEASURED 293 00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:05,245 AGAINST THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT OUR COUNTIES CAN BRING IN 294 00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:06,479 TO PAY FOR THEM. 295 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:09,516 THEY ALREADY HAVE CHALLENGES WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL 296 00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:12,252 TECHNOLOGY AT THE POLLS, SUCH AS COST AND TRAINING POLL 297 00:14:12,252 --> 00:14:17,323 WORKERS TO USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. 298 00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:20,960 I WOULD TRED VERY LIGHTLY IN PASSING DOWN ANY KIND OF NEW 299 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,996 REQUIREMENT AT THE POLLING PLACES. 300 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:27,267 >> I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE WANT THE ENHANCED SECURITY, THAT WE 301 00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:32,439 CAN GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, BUDGET PROCESS, AND 302 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:35,909 ACTUALLY ASK -- TO APPROPRIATE MONEY TO DO THIS TECHNOLOGY, 303 00:14:35,909 --> 00:14:39,079 AND IF WE CAN MAKE THE CASE, I THINK THAT WILL BE DONE. 304 00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:43,717 I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE AN ADDED BURDEN ON THE COUNTIES. 305 00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:46,386 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, WHICH DO YOU THINK WOULD BE 306 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:50,357 WORSE, FOR SOMEONE TO FRAUDULENTLY CAST A VOTE OR FOR 307 00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:54,027 SOMEONE WHO IS LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO VOTE TO BE TURNED 308 00:14:54,027 --> 00:14:54,561 AWAY? 309 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:57,764 >> YOU KNOW, BETSY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN THIS STATE AND THAT'S 310 00:14:57,764 --> 00:15:01,468 THAT WE HAVE VERY LOW VOTER REGISTRATION AMONG THOSE WHO 311 00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:02,469 ARE REGISTERED. 312 00:15:02,469 --> 00:15:05,038 WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH VOTER FRAUD. 313 00:15:05,038 --> 00:15:07,974 WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLVING A PROBLEM, WE SHOULD BE SOLVING 314 00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:10,043 THE ISSUE OF PARTICIPATION. 315 00:15:10,043 --> 00:15:12,879 NOT LOOKING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST. 316 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:19,085 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 317 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:24,257 >> REPRESENTATIVE, YESTERDAY AT THE CITY CLUB OF BOISE DEBATE, 318 00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:27,260 YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO INCREASE VOTER PARTICIPATION BUT YOU 319 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:31,598 CALLED FOR DOING AWAY WITH PRIMARY ELECTIONS IN IDAHO AND 320 00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:37,704 LETTING POLITICAL PARTIES HANDLE THEIR OWN PROCESS -- NOT 321 00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:40,874 AFFILIATED WITH ANY PARTY, HOW IS THIS GOING TO INCREASE VOTER 322 00:15:40,874 --> 00:15:43,643 PARTICIPATION TO LET VOTERS HAVE A SAY ONLY IN THE GENERAL 323 00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:46,513 ELECTION AND NOT ALSO IN THE PRIMARY? 324 00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:49,649 >> I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I SAID IN DOING AWAY WITH 325 00:15:49,649 --> 00:15:51,117 PRIMARY ELECTIONS. 326 00:15:51,117 --> 00:15:55,388 CERTAINLY I DO BELIEVE THAT A PRIMARY ELECTION IS NOT 327 00:15:55,388 --> 00:15:57,657 NECESSARILY AN ELECTION AT ALL. 328 00:15:57,657 --> 00:15:59,225 IT IS A NOMINATION PROCESS. 329 00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:04,297 AND IT IS A PARTY NOMINATION PROCESS, AND I THINK THAT THE 330 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:09,035 PARTIES DESERVE TO CHOOSE THEIR OWN CANDIDATES, AND AS FAR AS 331 00:16:09,035 --> 00:16:12,839 THOSE WHO ARE UNAFFILIATED, I THINK IF THEY -- IF THEY WANT 332 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:18,678 TO HELP CHOOSE A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, THEN THEY CAN 333 00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:22,248 REGISTER AS A REPUBLICAN AND VOTE IN OUR PRIMARY. 334 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:25,051 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 335 00:16:25,051 --> 00:16:26,052 >> YES, THANK YOU. 336 00:16:26,052 --> 00:16:31,524 WE HAVE EXTREMELY LOW VOTER TURNOUT IN THE LAST PRIMARY, 337 00:16:31,524 --> 00:16:32,792 SOME AS LOW AS 16%. 338 00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:36,429 THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER PUT UP BETWEEN VOTERS OF IDAHO 339 00:16:36,429 --> 00:16:39,165 AND THEIR BALLOT AND I WOULD OPPOSE ANY SUCH EFFORT. 340 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:42,102 >> IF I MIGHT RESPOND. 341 00:16:42,102 --> 00:16:45,538 THE VOTER TURNOUT IN THE LAST ELECTION WAS A LITTLE BIT 342 00:16:45,538 --> 00:16:48,441 HIGHER THAN THE LAST 10-YEAR AVERAGE. 343 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:52,712 AND THE ELECTION BEFORE THAT, THERE WAS ALSO A CLOSE PRIMARY, 344 00:16:52,712 --> 00:16:54,881 A LITTLE BIT BELOW. 345 00:16:54,881 --> 00:16:58,918 SO, IF THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANY 346 00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:01,221 CORRELATION BETWEEN VOTER TURNOUT AND WHETHER YOU HAVE AN 347 00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:03,223 OPEN OR A CLOSED PRIMARY. 348 00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:05,225 >> BETSY WITH A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. 349 00:17:05,225 --> 00:17:08,028 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, YOU SAID A PRIMARY ISN'T REALLY AN 350 00:17:08,028 --> 00:17:08,695 ELECTION. 351 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:09,863 IT IS A NOMINATION PROCESS. 352 00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:12,399 I BELIEVE YOU ALSO SAID THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO DO IT THAN 353 00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:13,233 HOW WE DO IT NOW. 354 00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:16,403 HOW WOULD YOU SEE THE PARTIES DOING IT IF NOT THROUGH A 355 00:17:16,403 --> 00:17:17,337 PRIMARY ELECTION? 356 00:17:17,337 --> 00:17:20,974 >> YOU KNOW, I -- WE HAVE A LONG TRADITION OF HAVING THE 357 00:17:20,974 --> 00:17:22,876 PRIMARY AND HAVING THE BALLOT. 358 00:17:22,876 --> 00:17:26,880 WHAT I -- WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING THE TAXPAYERS 359 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:33,520 OF THE STATE OF IDAHO ACTUALLY PAYING FOR A PARTY NOMINATION 360 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:33,987 PROCESS. 361 00:17:33,987 --> 00:17:39,859 >> AND THE NEXT QUESTION FROM KIMBERLEE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 362 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:40,326 WOODINGS. 363 00:17:40,326 --> 00:17:43,430 >> WHY SHOULDN'T POLITICAL PARTIES BE THE ONES THAT CHOOSE 364 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:45,899 THEIR OWN CANDIDATES DURING THE PRIMARY? 365 00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:50,236 >> WELL, POLITICAL PARTIES ARE THE ONES WHO CHOOSE THEIR OWN 366 00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:52,806 CANDIDATE AND WE DID THAT THROUGH THE PRIMARY ELECTION 367 00:17:52,806 --> 00:17:53,440 PROCESS. 368 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,108 I SUPPORT PRIMARY ELECTIONS. 369 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:57,744 I BELIEVE IF THEY'RE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO ALL OF THE VOTERS 370 00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,480 OF IDAHO TO CHOOSE WHICH PRIMARY THEY WOULD LIKE TO VOTE 371 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,018 IN, THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE 372 00:18:05,018 --> 00:18:06,486 ADMINISTERING AT THE STATE. 373 00:18:06,486 --> 00:18:09,956 >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND TOUCH ON SOMETHING THAT 374 00:18:09,956 --> 00:18:10,757 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY SAID. 375 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:12,025 IT IS A NOMINATING PROCESS. 376 00:18:12,025 --> 00:18:16,463 IN A ONE-PARTY STATE, ISN'T A PRIMARY SYSTEM, ESSENTIALLY THE 377 00:18:16,463 --> 00:18:19,399 ELECTION, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ELECTED IN 378 00:18:19,399 --> 00:18:24,237 MAY OF THIS YEAR WILL GO ON AND QUITE FRANKLY WIN HANDILY IN 379 00:18:24,237 --> 00:18:25,405 THE NEXT MONTH? 380 00:18:25,405 --> 00:18:27,207 >> ACTUALLY, NO, IT IS NOT. 381 00:18:27,207 --> 00:18:28,942 AND THAT IS NOT THE ELECTION. 382 00:18:28,942 --> 00:18:31,611 THE ACTUAL ELECTION IS IN NOVEMBER. 383 00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:34,881 AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO HELP CHOOSE THE CANDIDATE FOR THE 384 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:38,418 PARTIES THEY NEED TO BE A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN OR A 385 00:18:38,418 --> 00:18:40,687 REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, IN MY OPINION. 386 00:18:40,687 --> 00:18:42,856 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 387 00:18:42,856 --> 00:18:43,890 >> THANK YOU. 388 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:47,360 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 389 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,997 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, JUST 26% OF IDAHO'S REGISTERED 390 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:54,734 VOTERS PARTICIPATED IN THIS YEAR'S PRIMARY ELECTION, AS 391 00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:57,370 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY MENTIONED, SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN 392 00:18:57,370 --> 00:19:01,207 THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT JUST SLIGHTLY, 74% VOTED IN THE LAST 393 00:19:01,207 --> 00:19:05,679 GENERAL ELECTION, FEWER THAN 60% VOTED IN THE 2010 GENERAL 394 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:06,546 ELECTION. 395 00:19:06,546 --> 00:19:07,647 ARE THESE NUMBERS HIGH ENOUGH? 396 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,650 DO YOU BELIEVE MORE IDAHOANS SHOULD BE VOTING AND IF SO, HOW 397 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,119 WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE MORE VOTER TURNOUT? 398 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,588 >> WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING NUMBER THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, 399 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:16,056 BETSY. 400 00:19:16,056 --> 00:19:19,025 PEOPLE ARE MORE EXCITED DURING PRESIDENTIAL YEARS TO GET OUT 401 00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:19,693 AND VOTE. 402 00:19:19,693 --> 00:19:22,962 AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE I VOTE IN ALL OF 403 00:19:22,962 --> 00:19:25,699 THE ELECTIONS WHETHER THEY'RE PRESIDENTIAL OR NOT. 404 00:19:25,699 --> 00:19:27,767 I THINK WE HAVE A JOB TO DO AS A STATE. 405 00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:31,604 AND THAT'S TO GET PEOPLE MORE ENGAGED IN ELECTIONS. 406 00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:36,242 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YESTERDAY I RELEASED iPHONE AND ANDROID APP 407 00:19:36,242 --> 00:19:38,411 THAT WILL GIVE YOU A VOTER GUIDE. 408 00:19:38,411 --> 00:19:39,079 IT'S MOBILE. 409 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:40,780 YOU CAN PICK YOUR FAVORITES. 410 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:43,249 YOU CAN BRING THAT TO THE POLLING BOOTH. 411 00:19:43,249 --> 00:19:46,152 ALREADY I HAVE HAD FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS IS 412 00:19:46,152 --> 00:19:47,620 EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE NEEDED. 413 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:50,690 THOSE TYPES OF EFFORTS THAT ARE PRETTY LOW COST, VERY EASY FOR 414 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:54,594 PEOPLE TO ACCESS IN THE WAYS THAT THEY CURRENTLY ACCESS 415 00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:58,064 INFORMATION, THAT I THINK CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE AND GET THEM 416 00:19:58,064 --> 00:19:58,598 TURNED OUT. 417 00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:00,967 BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'RE 418 00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:04,604 MISSING IN THIS STATE IS, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION, PEOPLE WANT TO 419 00:20:04,604 --> 00:20:07,640 KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE ON THEIR BALLOT AND WHAT THOSE 420 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,241 PEOPLE STAND FOR. 421 00:20:08,241 --> 00:20:11,344 SO, THE MORE OF THAT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, I THINK THE MORE 422 00:20:11,344 --> 00:20:13,880 WE CAN GET PEOPLE TURNED OUT TO THE POLLS. 423 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,283 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, DOES YOUR SMARTPHONE APP WORK 424 00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:19,452 ONLY FOR VOTERS ALREADY REGISTERED? 425 00:20:19,452 --> 00:20:20,887 >> YES, IT DOES, BETSY. 426 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:25,392 WE WERE -- BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE VOTER SYSTEM IS IN THE 427 00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:30,563 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, WE WERE UNABLE TO USE GIS DATA 428 00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:34,668 WHEN WE -- WE HAD TO USE THE EXISTING VOTER FILE, COMMON 429 00:20:34,668 --> 00:20:37,404 SEPARATED VALUES, IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT IS. 430 00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:38,672 THAT WAS OUR CHALLENGE. 431 00:20:38,672 --> 00:20:43,410 WE HAD TO USE THE CURRENT VOTER FILE TO LOOK UP VOTERS AND SHOW 432 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:46,212 THEM WHAT THEIR POLLING PLACE IS BUT WE PROVIDE A LINK ON 433 00:20:46,212 --> 00:20:48,748 INFORMATION ON HOW TO REGISTER. 434 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:52,318 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, YOUR APP REQUIRES PEOPLE TO 435 00:20:52,318 --> 00:20:55,221 ENTER THEIR NAME AND ZIP CODE AND DISTRICT INFORMATION POPS 436 00:20:55,221 --> 00:20:55,588 UP. 437 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:57,357 IS THERE INFORMATION GOING ANYWHERE, BEING STORED? 438 00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:59,359 >> NO, IT'S NOT. 439 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,228 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A HUGE PROPONENT TO PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO 440 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:02,996 PRIVACY. 441 00:21:02,996 --> 00:21:06,166 IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I COSPONSORED A BILL 442 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:08,902 TO THAT END IN THE LEGISLATURE. 443 00:21:08,902 --> 00:21:10,503 YOUR DATA DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE. 444 00:21:10,503 --> 00:21:11,504 IT IS NOT SAVED. 445 00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:14,908 IT IS SAVED LOCALLY ON YOUR DEVICE SO THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO 446 00:21:14,908 --> 00:21:17,911 RETRIEVE THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE POLLING BOOTH. 447 00:21:17,911 --> 00:21:21,881 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, SAME QUESTION THAT I BEGAN WITH WITH 448 00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:26,019 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE VOTING IN IDAHO? 449 00:21:26,019 --> 00:21:29,723 IS OUR VOTER TURNOUT HIGH ENOUGH? 450 00:21:29,723 --> 00:21:30,890 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT, BETSY. 451 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:33,393 I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN 452 00:21:33,393 --> 00:21:36,896 TO EDUCATE VOTERS AND GET THEM TO THE POLLS. 453 00:21:36,896 --> 00:21:39,366 PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THEIR VOTE IS. 454 00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:45,105 YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO ELECT OUR LEADERS AND 455 00:21:45,105 --> 00:21:49,309 CERTAINLY WE GET CAUGHT UP IN LIFE AND WE FORGET ALL OF OUR 456 00:21:49,309 --> 00:21:53,580 CIVIC DUTIES AND CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CIVIC 457 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:57,517 DUTIES IS THAT RIGHT, THAT PRIVILEGE, THAT RESPONSIBILITY 458 00:21:57,517 --> 00:21:57,984 TO VOTE. 459 00:21:57,984 --> 00:22:00,887 >> SO, IF YOU'RE ELECTED SECRETARY OF STATE, WHAT WOULD 460 00:22:00,887 --> 00:22:03,323 YOU DO TO ENCOURAGE MORE VOTER TURNOUT? 461 00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:06,226 >> I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO 462 00:22:06,226 --> 00:22:07,627 ENCOURAGE VOTER TURNOUT. 463 00:22:07,627 --> 00:22:12,632 ONE OF THOSE, SECRETARY OF STATE IS IN CHARGE OF THE CIVIC 464 00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:16,069 EDUCATION OF THE STUDENTS, AND CERTAINLY I THINK THAT THAT IS 465 00:22:16,069 --> 00:22:18,171 AN IMPORTANT FUNCTION, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE 466 00:22:18,171 --> 00:22:23,176 LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE THAT IS HAPPENING IN ALL OF OUR 467 00:22:23,176 --> 00:22:26,913 SCHOOLS THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE BEING TAUGHT, YOU KNOW, THE 468 00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:31,117 IMPORTANCE OF VOTING, NOT ONLY THE IMPORTANCE OF VOTING AND 469 00:22:31,117 --> 00:22:35,288 THE RIGHT AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO VOTE, BUT 470 00:22:35,288 --> 00:22:39,292 ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR. 471 00:22:39,292 --> 00:22:44,664 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A VERSION OF THE QUESTION I ASKED 472 00:22:44,664 --> 00:22:46,299 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS EARLIER. 473 00:22:46,299 --> 00:22:50,670 WHICH WOULD BE WORST, FOR SOMEONE TO CAST A FRAUDULENT 474 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:54,774 VOTE IN IDAHO OR FOR A LEGITIMATE VOTER TRYING TO VOTE 475 00:22:54,774 --> 00:22:55,742 TO BE TURNED AWAY? 476 00:22:55,742 --> 00:23:00,046 >> BETSY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN TURN A LEGITIMATE VOTER 477 00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:03,149 AWAY UNLESS THEY ARE NOT PROPERLY REGISTERED, AND WHERE 478 00:23:03,149 --> 00:23:06,586 YOU CAN REGISTER AT THE POLLS, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CAN 479 00:23:06,586 --> 00:23:07,520 HAPPEN. 480 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,593 AND, CERTAINLY, WE WOULD HOPE THAT WE HAVE ZERO FRAUD, AND 481 00:23:13,593 --> 00:23:16,896 THAT WE STILL GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. 482 00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:20,633 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS FROM 483 00:23:20,633 --> 00:23:21,267 SCOTT GRAF. 484 00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:27,173 >> IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE IDAHO'S SUNSHINE LAWS OR 485 00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:30,810 COULD LOBBY TO CHANGE THEM, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD YOU DO 486 00:23:30,810 --> 00:23:35,615 IT INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND INSTILL VOTER CONFIDENCE? 487 00:23:35,615 --> 00:23:38,651 >> WELL, WE WENT VERY FAR IN INCREASING TRANSPARENCY IN THE 488 00:23:38,651 --> 00:23:44,824 LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION BY REQUIRING ALL 501-C-4 POLITICAL 489 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:48,461 ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTICIPATE IN ELECTION TO DISCLOSE THEIR 490 00:23:48,461 --> 00:23:49,262 DONORS. 491 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:52,899 BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO A STEP FARTHER IN MAKING 492 00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:57,203 THAT INFORMATION MORE ACCESSIBLE OVER THE INTERNET. 493 00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:00,774 AND OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW HAS SO MUCH INFORMATION AND SO MUCH 494 00:24:00,774 --> 00:24:03,143 DONOR INFORMATION AND INFORMATION ON WHERE THAT MONEY 495 00:24:03,143 --> 00:24:08,081 IS GOING, BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM AND REALLY 496 00:24:08,081 --> 00:24:10,884 PAINT A COMPLETE PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 497 00:24:10,884 --> 00:24:15,622 AND, SO, WE HAVE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO OVERHAUL THE 498 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:19,159 TECHNOLOGY OF THE OFFICE TO MAKE THAT INFORMATION MORE 499 00:24:19,159 --> 00:24:23,163 TRANSPARENT, AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE OF 500 00:24:23,163 --> 00:24:23,596 IDAHO. 501 00:24:23,596 --> 00:24:26,900 >> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. 502 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:31,004 >> YOU HAVE BEEN IN ELECTED OFFICE A TENTH OF THE TIME AS 503 00:24:31,004 --> 00:24:31,805 YOUR OPPONENT. 504 00:24:31,805 --> 00:24:35,709 ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH IDAHO PUBLIC RECORD LAWS AND HOW 505 00:24:35,709 --> 00:24:38,111 WOULD YOU RESPOND TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? 506 00:24:38,111 --> 00:24:41,081 >> WELL, THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 507 00:24:41,081 --> 00:24:44,351 GOVERNOR RECENTLY APPOINTED A PUBLIC RECORDS OMBUDSMAN TO 508 00:24:44,351 --> 00:24:47,821 KIND OF BE THE PEOPLES VOICE IN THAT PROCESS. 509 00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:51,758 I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT OF TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT. 510 00:24:51,758 --> 00:24:54,394 AND IF WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT WE CAN'T BE PROUD OF, THAT WE 511 00:24:54,394 --> 00:24:58,331 NEED TO BE ASHAMED OF, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THOSE. 512 00:24:58,331 --> 00:25:02,602 SO, AS FAR AS PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, I FILED PLENTY OF MY 513 00:25:02,602 --> 00:25:06,139 OWN IN THE PAST AND HAVE ALWAYS APPRECIATED A TIMELY RESPONSE 514 00:25:06,139 --> 00:25:08,975 AND WOULD DO THE SAME AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 515 00:25:08,975 --> 00:25:11,945 >> NEXT QUESTION IS FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY FROM 516 00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:12,512 SCOTT GRAF. 517 00:25:12,512 --> 00:25:16,416 >> YOU HIRED A PRIVATE ATTORNEY FOR FEDERAL LANDS, THE FEDERAL 518 00:25:16,416 --> 00:25:21,154 LANDS INTERIM COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF USING ATTORNEY GENERAL 519 00:25:21,154 --> 00:25:21,888 LAWRENCE WASDEN. 520 00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:23,890 THIS COST TAXPAYERS ABOUT $61,000. 521 00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:27,694 IF ELECTED, DO YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE TO USE TAXPAYER 522 00:25:27,694 --> 00:25:32,532 DOLLARS FOR PRIVATE COUNSEL OR WILL YOU USE MORE OFTEN THE 523 00:25:32,532 --> 00:25:34,067 STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE? 524 00:25:34,067 --> 00:25:37,003 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION AS WELL. 525 00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:40,173 CERTAINLY, AS I SAID YESTERDAY, YOU DON'T HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO 526 00:25:40,173 --> 00:25:42,375 GIVE YOU A OPINION THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. 527 00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:45,378 YOU HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO GIVE YOU SOUND LEGAL ADVICE. 528 00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:51,818 OUR INTERIM COMMITTEE HAD AN ATTORNEY OR DR. KOESHEN FROM 529 00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:56,256 THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY, AND THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY HAS ABOUT 530 00:25:56,256 --> 00:25:59,025 40,000 ATTORNEYS AS MEMBERS AND HE GAVE US A REPORT SAYING THAT 531 00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:02,328 THERE WAS LEGAL BASIS FOR WHAT WE WERE DOING. 532 00:26:02,328 --> 00:26:06,766 OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL TOLD US THAT 533 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:07,767 THERE WASN'T. 534 00:26:07,767 --> 00:26:13,506 MY CO-CHAIR AND I DECIDED THAT IT MIGHT BE BEST IF THIS 535 00:26:13,506 --> 00:26:17,977 INTERIM COMMITTEE HIRED INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO GUIDE US 536 00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:19,312 THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 537 00:26:19,312 --> 00:26:23,249 AS SECRETARY OF STATE I THINK YOU HAVE TO PLAY EACH CASE BY 538 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:26,686 EAR, AND IF YOU CAN, I WOULD SAY USE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S 539 00:26:26,686 --> 00:26:27,253 OFFICE. 540 00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:31,157 IF THERE IS AN INHERENT CONFLICT, THEN WE HIRE 541 00:26:31,157 --> 00:26:32,058 INDEPENDENT COUNSEL. 542 00:26:32,058 --> 00:26:35,061 >> I WONDER IF I WOULD JUMP BACK FOR A MOMENT, 543 00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:37,997 REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY TO THE EARLIER REQUEST ABOUT WHEN 544 00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:42,902 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS WAS ASKED WHAT WOULD SHE CHANGE IN 545 00:26:42,902 --> 00:26:44,504 IDAHO'S SUNSHINE LAWS? 546 00:26:44,504 --> 00:26:47,273 WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE IF YOU COULD PROPOSE CHANGES? 547 00:26:47,273 --> 00:26:50,010 >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MIND OFF THE TOP. 548 00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:53,113 ONE OF THOSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO TO A QUARTERLY 549 00:26:53,113 --> 00:26:54,647 REPORTING FOR CANDIDATES. 550 00:26:54,647 --> 00:27:00,653 RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT, WE HAVE THE 551 00:27:00,653 --> 00:27:04,958 PRE-PRIMARY, POST PRIMARY, PREGENERAL -- AND I THINK THIS 552 00:27:04,958 --> 00:27:08,595 OCTOBER, A PRE-GENERAL AND A POST-GENERAL. 553 00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:11,865 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US JUST GO TO A QUARTERLY REPORTING. 554 00:27:11,865 --> 00:27:14,834 I THINK THAT GIVES US MORE INFORMATION AND I THINK IT'S 555 00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:19,506 MORE TRANSPARENT AND I THINK THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO 556 00:27:19,506 --> 00:27:24,144 SEE WHO IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE CAMPAIGNS AND HOW THAT MONEY IS 557 00:27:24,144 --> 00:27:25,045 BEING SPENT. 558 00:27:25,045 --> 00:27:29,149 SECOND AREA THAT I THINK IS RIGHT NOW THAT NEEDS TO BE 559 00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:31,951 CHANGED, IF YOU ARE A CANDIDATE, BUT NOT AN 560 00:27:31,951 --> 00:27:35,255 INCUMBENT, A LOBBYIST DOES NOT HAVE TO REPORT WHAT THEY SPEND 561 00:27:35,255 --> 00:27:36,056 ON YOU. 562 00:27:36,056 --> 00:27:39,893 WHERE AS IF YOU ARE IN ANY ELECTED OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO DO 563 00:27:39,893 --> 00:27:41,795 THAT REPORTING. 564 00:27:41,795 --> 00:27:46,232 I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT EQU 565 00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:46,433 EQUAL. 566 00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:49,502 ONCE YOU BECOME A CANDIDATE FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION, I THINK 567 00:27:49,502 --> 00:27:53,340 YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT REPORTING MANDATORY FOR BOTH. 568 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:56,876 >> I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE EARLIER QUESTION ABOUT THE 569 00:27:56,876 --> 00:27:58,311 ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE IF POSSIBLE. 570 00:27:58,311 --> 00:28:02,382 I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DEPUTY WHO 571 00:28:02,382 --> 00:28:05,685 GAVE THE OPINION WAS STRONG, THE CHIEF OF THE ATTORNEY 572 00:28:05,685 --> 00:28:11,691 GENERAL NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION, 37 YEARS' EXPERIENCE. 573 00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:15,295 STEVE -- WHO WORKS UNDER CLYDE STRONG, 26 YEARS' EXPERIENCE 574 00:28:15,295 --> 00:28:19,299 AND DELIVERED THAT REPORT TO THE INTERIM COMMITTEE. 575 00:28:19,299 --> 00:28:23,470 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT -- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH A 576 00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:27,240 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED BY THE 577 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,076 PERSON WHO WAS HIRED BY THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO THROUGH THE 578 00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:34,981 ELECTION PROCESS TO REPRESENT US IN LEGAL MATTERS, AND THAT'S 579 00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:40,520 ATTORNEY GENERAL LAWRENCE WASDEN. 580 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,790 SPENDING $61,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPINION 581 00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:46,893 WITH THE TYPE OF EXPERIENCE CONTAINED IN OUR ATTORNEY 582 00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:49,229 GENERAL'S OFFICE, TO ME IS A COMPLETE WASTE. 583 00:28:49,229 --> 00:28:52,632 >> A FOLLOW-UP -- >> I MIGHT JUST ADD TO THAT, 584 00:28:52,632 --> 00:28:57,003 THOUGH, WHEN WE HEARD THE REPORT FROM MR. KOESHEN, WHO 585 00:28:57,003 --> 00:29:01,007 REPRESENTS THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY, AND THEY HAD 40,000 586 00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:04,644 ATTORNEYS AS MEMBERS OF THAT SOCIETY, IT APPEARS TO US THAT 587 00:29:04,644 --> 00:29:08,114 WE NEED THE BEST LEGAL ADVICE, WE NEED INDEPENDENT LEGAL 588 00:29:08,114 --> 00:29:11,117 ADVICE SO THAT WE CAN COME TO THE RIGHT DECISION ON THIS 589 00:29:11,117 --> 00:29:11,551 ISSUE. 590 00:29:11,551 --> 00:29:14,854 AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO THE STATE OF IDAHO. 591 00:29:14,854 --> 00:29:16,556 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND? 592 00:29:16,556 --> 00:29:17,590 >> NO, THAT'S OKAY. 593 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:18,324 THANK YOU. 594 00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:20,226 >> QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 595 00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:22,762 IF THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE FACED A LEGAL CHALLENGE 596 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:27,500 AND YOU FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL THAT YOU 597 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:30,970 WERE GET FROM INSIDE STATE GOVERNMENT, ATTORNEY GENERAL'S 598 00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:34,140 OFFICE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SEEK OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR WHAT 599 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,943 YOU BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY BEST FOR VOTERS IN THE STATE OF 600 00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:37,410 IDAHO? 601 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:39,579 >> I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT SITUATION ARISING. 602 00:29:39,579 --> 00:29:44,984 I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR LAWRENCE WASDEN, 603 00:29:44,984 --> 00:29:46,519 OUR CURRENT ATTORNEY GENERAL. 604 00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:48,788 WE HAVE HAD MANY LONG CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE 605 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:52,058 CHALLENGES FACING OUR STATE AND THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE MANY 606 00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:54,094 ISSUES THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE DEALS WITH. 607 00:29:54,094 --> 00:29:59,165 AND I BELIEVE THAT HE IS VERY MUCH WORKING IN THE INTEREST OF 608 00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:05,905 IDAHOANS, AND I WOULD RESPECT HIS COUNSEL. 609 00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:09,642 >> NEXT QUESTION -- >> ACCORDING TO THE 610 00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:12,078 CONSTITUTION, IDAHO CONSTITUTION, LAND BOARD'S JOB 611 00:30:12,078 --> 00:30:19,919 TO BUY AND SELL LAND IN SUCH A MANNER AS WILL SECURE THE 612 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:23,356 MAXIMUM LONG TERM -- THIS MONEY GOES TO SUPPORT IDAHO SCHOOLS, 613 00:30:23,356 --> 00:30:24,357 AMONG OTHER THINGS. 614 00:30:24,357 --> 00:30:28,728 SO, HOW DO YOU INTERPRET MAXIMUM LONG-TERM FINANCIAL 615 00:30:28,728 --> 00:30:32,665 RETURN AND HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE PRIVATE SECTOR? 616 00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:37,037 >> WELL, I'M IN AGREEMENT, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE I'M STUMPING 617 00:30:37,037 --> 00:30:39,039 FOR OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL HERE. 618 00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,841 I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL ON THE 619 00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:44,377 DEFINITION OF LAND, AND THAT'S THE GROUND AND ANYTHING BUILT 620 00:30:44,377 --> 00:30:45,111 ON TOP OF THIS. 621 00:30:45,111 --> 00:30:53,053 THIS MISNOMER THAT SOMEHOW SOME OF THE STATE ENDOWMENT LAND ARE 622 00:30:53,053 --> 00:31:02,629 COMMERCIAL ARE -- THE WAY THAT WE -- THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT 623 00:31:02,629 --> 00:31:05,331 HARVESTING ALL OF THE TIMBER BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE BEST 624 00:31:05,331 --> 00:31:06,499 RETURN FOR NEXT YEAR. 625 00:31:06,499 --> 00:31:10,804 THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE MANAGING LAND SO THEY GIVE US A 626 00:31:10,804 --> 00:31:14,607 LONG-TERM BENEFIT FOR 20 YEARS, 100 YEARS, 200 YEARS. 627 00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:18,712 AND SO WE ALWAYS NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE WITH THAT LONG-TERM IN 628 00:31:18,712 --> 00:31:19,346 MIND. 629 00:31:19,346 --> 00:31:21,815 WHAT MAKES THE BEST SENSE IN THE LONG TERM? 630 00:31:21,815 --> 00:31:25,185 WHAT IS THE PORTFOLIO MIX ON THOSE LANDS THAT MAKES THE BEST 631 00:31:25,185 --> 00:31:26,119 SENSE IN THE LONG TERM? 632 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:29,089 AND SO THAT'S WHY WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT AND THAT'S WHAT 633 00:31:29,089 --> 00:31:37,464 WE'RE MANDATED TO DO BY THE CON CONSTITUTI 634 00:31:37,464 --> 00:31:37,831 CONSTITUTION. 635 00:31:37,831 --> 00:31:38,264 >> SAME QUESTION. 636 00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:40,266 >> I THINK YOU MISSPOKE WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT IS A CHARGE OF 637 00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:45,372 THE LAND BOARD TO BUY AND SELL LAND TO MAKE THE GREATEST 638 00:31:45,372 --> 00:31:47,674 LONG-TERM RETURN FOR THE ENDOWMENTS. 639 00:31:47,674 --> 00:31:51,277 THAT IS NOT THE CHARGE OF THE LAND BOARD TO BUY AND SELL LAND 640 00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:51,778 AT ALL. 641 00:31:51,778 --> 00:31:58,518 WE ARE CHARGED WITH MAKING THE MAXIMUM LONG-TERM RETURN FOR 642 00:31:58,518 --> 00:32:04,691 THE ENDOWMENTS, BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY, VERY SPECIFIC 643 00:32:04,691 --> 00:32:06,993 CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO SELL ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY IN 644 00:32:06,993 --> 00:32:08,094 THE STATE OF IDAHO. 645 00:32:08,094 --> 00:32:11,531 AND ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT IT HAS TO GO TO 646 00:32:11,531 --> 00:32:15,535 AUCTION, OR IT HAS TO BE TRADED, SO, I THINK THAT -- I 647 00:32:15,535 --> 00:32:19,506 THINK YOU MISSPOKE WHEN YOU SAID THAT. 648 00:32:19,506 --> 00:32:23,543 NOW, AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I DISAGREE THAT ALL 649 00:32:23,543 --> 00:32:26,179 OF OUR LAND IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 650 00:32:26,179 --> 00:32:30,083 I THINK THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IN TIMBER AND GRAZING, WE ARE 651 00:32:30,083 --> 00:32:32,285 SELLING A COMMODITY. 652 00:32:32,285 --> 00:32:36,456 WE ARE NOT SELLING A PRODUCT OTHER THAN THE TIMBER. 653 00:32:36,456 --> 00:32:40,026 WE ARE NOT HARVESTING -- OR HARVESTING THE TIMBER. 654 00:32:40,026 --> 00:32:42,095 WE'RE NOT MILLING THE TIMBER. 655 00:32:42,095 --> 00:32:45,198 I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THAT TYPE OF 656 00:32:45,198 --> 00:32:45,999 COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 657 00:32:45,999 --> 00:32:51,004 I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE COMPETING WITH PRIVATE 658 00:32:51,004 --> 00:32:55,041 BUSINESSES IN THE MARKETPLACE BECAUSE OF THE TAX ADVANTAGES 659 00:32:55,041 --> 00:32:57,310 THAT THE STATE OF IDAHO HAS. 660 00:32:57,310 --> 00:32:58,411 >> JUST TO CLARIFY. 661 00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:01,881 WHEN I SAID IT WAS A -- I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED AND SAID 662 00:33:01,881 --> 00:33:05,885 IF THE LAND BOARD WAS TO BUY AND SELL LAND. 663 00:33:05,885 --> 00:33:10,523 IT WAS -- TO THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT. 664 00:33:10,523 --> 00:33:14,427 YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE -- CHARGE OF THE LAND BOARD. 665 00:33:14,427 --> 00:33:15,795 >> A FOLLOW-UP. 666 00:33:15,795 --> 00:33:20,066 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, IF IT'S WRONG FOR THE STATE TO 667 00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:23,069 COMPETE WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS, HOW IS IT NOT COMPETING WITH 668 00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:28,875 PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR US TO SELL TIMBER OFF OF STATE LANDS WHEN 669 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,245 THERE ARE PRIVATE TIMBERLAND OWNERS WHO ALSO SELL TIMBER 670 00:33:32,245 --> 00:33:35,515 INTO THE SAME MARKET OR PERHAPS MIGHT EVEN BE OTHER OWNERS OF 671 00:33:35,515 --> 00:33:38,451 NATURAL RESOURCE LAND IN THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS? 672 00:33:38,451 --> 00:33:44,357 >> WELL, IN THE -- IN THE ECONOMIC MARKET, YOU KNOW, WE 673 00:33:44,357 --> 00:33:49,462 HAVE PERFECT COMPETITION, CONCOURSE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF 674 00:33:49,462 --> 00:33:52,565 BUYERS AND SELLERS, AND I THINK THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE 675 00:33:52,565 --> 00:33:52,932 HAVE. 676 00:33:52,932 --> 00:33:58,038 WHEN YOU'RE COMPETING ON A SPECIFIC STORAGE UNIT OR OFFICE 677 00:33:58,038 --> 00:34:02,776 BUILDING, I THINK THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN HAVING -- THAN 678 00:34:02,776 --> 00:34:07,947 HAVING TIMBER FROM A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 679 00:34:07,947 --> 00:34:10,350 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS? 680 00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:13,253 >> WELL, I JUST COMPLETELY DISAGREE. 681 00:34:13,253 --> 00:34:16,623 AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL'S DEFINITION 682 00:34:16,623 --> 00:34:17,257 OF LAND. 683 00:34:17,257 --> 00:34:21,261 AND THAT IS THE GROUND AND ANYTHING BUILT ON TOP OF IT. 684 00:34:21,261 --> 00:34:25,165 SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TIMBER, STILL COMPETING IN THE 685 00:34:25,165 --> 00:34:26,332 PRIVATE SECTOR. 686 00:34:26,332 --> 00:34:30,003 GRAZING, COMPETING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 687 00:34:30,003 --> 00:34:33,640 I DON'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THESE THINGS. 688 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,177 >> BETSY, ANOTHER QUESTION. 689 00:34:37,177 --> 00:34:40,714 >> YES, TALKING ABOUT SELLING -- WE RECENTLY WENT 690 00:34:40,714 --> 00:34:43,550 THROUGH A RATHER LARGE EXERCISE IN SELLING STATE ENDOWMENT 691 00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:46,653 LANDS WITH REGARD TO THE CABIN SITE AT PRIEST LAKE. 692 00:34:46,653 --> 00:34:49,723 I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT BOTH OF YOU THINK OF THE ROUTE THAT THE 693 00:34:49,723 --> 00:34:52,659 STATE TOOK ON THAT AND IT'S BEEN VERY CONTROVERSIAL. 694 00:34:52,659 --> 00:34:55,462 THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RENTED THOSE CABIN SITES FOR MANY 695 00:34:55,462 --> 00:34:58,131 YEARS HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY HAPPY. 696 00:34:58,131 --> 00:35:01,968 BOTH OF YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT PROCESS? 697 00:35:01,968 --> 00:35:04,337 STARTING WITH REPRESENTATIVE -- >> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. 698 00:35:04,337 --> 00:35:07,674 I HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD THE 699 00:35:07,674 --> 00:35:11,144 CABIN SITES FOR SOMETIMES GENERATIONS, AND WE ALL HAVE 700 00:35:11,144 --> 00:35:13,313 THOSE SPECIAL PLACES WHERE WE GO AS A FAMILY. 701 00:35:13,313 --> 00:35:15,615 IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY CONTROVERSIAL. 702 00:35:15,615 --> 00:35:18,618 THE PROBLEM IS, THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF LAND, THE 703 00:35:18,618 --> 00:35:20,620 PROCESS HAD BECOME POLITICAL. 704 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:23,990 AND THEY WEREN'T BEING MANAGED TO THE MAXIMUM LONG-TERM 705 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:28,795 BENEFIT OF THE ENDOWMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UNDER THE 706 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:29,629 CONSTITUTION. 707 00:35:29,629 --> 00:35:33,800 WHAT WAS HAPPENING EVERY TIME WE WERE LEASING THOSE FOR A 708 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,070 SUB-MARKET RATE, WE WERE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE POCKETS OF 709 00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:39,072 SCHOOL CHILDREN AND THAT'S SIMPLY NOT RIGHT. 710 00:35:39,072 --> 00:35:42,075 I SUPPORT THE LAND BOARD'S DECISION TO DIVEST OURSELVES OF 711 00:35:42,075 --> 00:35:46,112 THOSE LANDS AND NOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT REVENUE FROM 712 00:35:46,112 --> 00:35:49,616 THOSE AUCTIONS TO FIGURE OUT IF WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT MONEY INTO 713 00:35:49,616 --> 00:35:53,086 THE PERMANENT FUND OR IF WE HAVE OTHER TYPES OF LAND 714 00:35:53,086 --> 00:35:57,590 HOLDINGS THAT WILL IN, TURN, PROVIDE THAT LONG-TERM BENEFIT 715 00:35:57,590 --> 00:36:00,593 TO THE ENDOWMENT. 716 00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:04,764 >> A PERSON WHO STARTS A BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF IDAHO 717 00:36:04,764 --> 00:36:09,402 HAS TO WORK WITH THE -- GETS TO WORK WITH THE SECRETARY OF 718 00:36:09,402 --> 00:36:13,039 STATE OFFICE TO SET UP TAX PAYMENTS, BECOME AN LLC, 719 00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,608 WHATEVER IT IS THAT NECESSARY. 720 00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:18,478 YOU BOTH SAY THAT STREAMLINING THIS PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT 721 00:36:18,478 --> 00:36:21,314 YOU WOULD MAKE A PRIORITY ONCE SECRETARY OF STATE. 722 00:36:21,314 --> 00:36:25,251 I'M CURIOUS, GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A SITUATION WHERE THIS IS 723 00:36:25,251 --> 00:36:26,219 NOT GOING WELL. 724 00:36:26,219 --> 00:36:28,521 PERHAPS SOMETHING YOU HEARD FROM A VOTER, AND HOW YOU WOULD 725 00:36:28,521 --> 00:36:31,958 WORK TO CHANGE THAT ONCE IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE POSITION? 726 00:36:31,958 --> 00:36:34,427 >> WELL, I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THAT FROM PERSONAL 727 00:36:34,427 --> 00:36:37,630 EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO REGISTER A BUSINESS, YOU 728 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:39,599 CANNOT CURRENTLY DO THAT ONLINE. 729 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:44,604 AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD DO IS GET THAT 730 00:36:44,604 --> 00:36:45,605 PROCESS ONLINE. 731 00:36:45,605 --> 00:36:48,174 NEXT WE CAN OFFER RESOURCES TO THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE STARTING 732 00:36:48,174 --> 00:36:50,643 NEW BUSINESSES, BECAUSE WE'RE SORT OF THEIR FIRST STOP. 733 00:36:50,643 --> 00:37:00,854 AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR LOCAL CHAPTER 734 00:37:00,854 --> 00:37:03,323 OF THE SMALL BUSINESS -- WE KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE 735 00:37:03,323 --> 00:37:07,060 THE BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY AND THE MORE SUCCESS WE CAN GET IN 736 00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:10,330 THAT, THE BETTER OUR COMMUNITIES WILL BE. 737 00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:12,499 >> SAME QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 738 00:37:12,499 --> 00:37:13,233 >> THANK YOU. 739 00:37:13,233 --> 00:37:15,869 AND CERTAINLY I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THAT. 740 00:37:15,869 --> 00:37:18,405 I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. 741 00:37:18,405 --> 00:37:22,342 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE 742 00:37:22,342 --> 00:37:25,612 PARTNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN 743 00:37:25,612 --> 00:37:29,049 A BUSINESS DOES COME IN AND FILE THEIR PAPERWORK THAT WE 744 00:37:29,049 --> 00:37:32,519 CAN GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON ALL OF THE REGULATIONS AND ALL OF 745 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,588 THE PERMITS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO GET STARTED 746 00:37:35,588 --> 00:37:36,322 IN BUSINESS. 747 00:37:36,322 --> 00:37:38,358 AND I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. 748 00:37:38,358 --> 00:37:41,795 I THINK THE SOONER THAT WE CAN GET THEM ACTUALLY PRODUCING AND 749 00:37:41,795 --> 00:37:45,365 PAYING TAXES, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THE STATE OF IDAHO. 750 00:37:45,365 --> 00:37:49,736 >> NEXT QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 751 00:37:49,736 --> 00:37:53,907 >> IN THE RECENT IDAHO STATESMAN VOTER GUIDE, YOU 752 00:37:53,907 --> 00:38:03,016 CLAIM I HAVE HAD TO MAKE TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS AND -- SO, 753 00:38:03,016 --> 00:38:08,488 WHAT WOULD YOU FORESEE AS A QUOTE TOUGH POLITICAL DECISION 754 00:38:08,488 --> 00:38:10,490 YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE IN OFFICE? 755 00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:14,761 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE MADE MANY, 756 00:38:14,761 --> 00:38:18,665 MANY TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS, AND NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN 757 00:38:18,665 --> 00:38:19,966 PARTISAN DECISIONS. 758 00:38:19,966 --> 00:38:24,504 AS SECRETARY OF STATE, I THINK THERE ARE TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT 759 00:38:24,504 --> 00:38:27,240 YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. 760 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:32,679 I DON'T KNOW THAT A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE 761 00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:34,414 CONTROVERSIAL DECISIONS. 762 00:38:34,414 --> 00:38:38,051 ONE EXAMPLE I MIGHT GIVE YOU OFF THE TOP IS THE CLOSED 763 00:38:38,051 --> 00:38:43,790 PRIMARY LAW, WHICH SAYS THAT THE PARTY CHAIRMAN HAS TO 764 00:38:43,790 --> 00:38:47,327 DESIGNATE WHETHER OR NOT THE UNAFFILIATEDS CAN VOTE IN THEIR 765 00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:50,864 PRIMARY AND THEY HAVE TO DO THAT 180 DAYS PRIOR TO THE 766 00:38:50,864 --> 00:38:51,364 ELECTION. 767 00:38:51,364 --> 00:38:54,968 ANOTHER SECTION OF CODE SAYS THAT YOU CAN DECLARE YOUR PARTY 768 00:38:54,968 --> 00:38:56,169 AFFILIATION ON ELECTION DAY. 769 00:38:56,169 --> 00:38:59,305 THERE IS DEFINITELY A CONFLICT IN THE CODE. 770 00:38:59,305 --> 00:39:00,440 AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. 771 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,844 AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE DECISIONS THAT COMES UPON THE 772 00:39:04,844 --> 00:39:06,012 SECRETARY OF STATE. 773 00:39:06,012 --> 00:39:09,482 OUR CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE MR. YSURSA MADE THE CHOICE 774 00:39:09,482 --> 00:39:12,852 THAT, YES, YOU CAN DECLARE YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION ON ELECTION 775 00:39:12,852 --> 00:39:13,186 DAY. 776 00:39:13,186 --> 00:39:17,023 BUT I THINK HE WOULD HAVE BEEN LEGALLY IN THE SAME TERRITORY 777 00:39:17,023 --> 00:39:22,962 IF HE HAD SAID, NO, UNAFFILIATED VOTERS CANNOT VOTE 778 00:39:22,962 --> 00:39:24,497 IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION. 779 00:39:24,497 --> 00:39:26,566 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 780 00:39:26,566 --> 00:39:27,133 >> NO. 781 00:39:27,133 --> 00:39:29,302 >> BETSY RUSSELL, A FOLLOW-UP FOR YOU. 782 00:39:29,302 --> 00:39:33,139 >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, ABOUT 783 00:39:33,139 --> 00:39:39,212 THE CABINS AND HEAR FROM REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY. 784 00:39:39,212 --> 00:39:41,681 >> I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY OPPONENT THAT THIS IS 785 00:39:41,681 --> 00:39:44,684 SOMETHING THAT THE STATE OF IDAHO, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE 786 00:39:44,684 --> 00:39:47,487 PROBLEMS SURROUNDING IT, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE 787 00:39:47,487 --> 00:39:50,623 NEED TO DIVEST OURSELVES OF. 788 00:39:50,623 --> 00:39:53,526 THE PRIEST LAKE PROPERTIES WERE DIVESTED. 789 00:39:53,526 --> 00:39:56,096 THERE WERE 60 PROPERTIES PUT ON THE AUCTION BLOCK. 790 00:39:56,096 --> 00:39:59,099 THERE WAS AN APPRAISAL VALUE PUT ON THEM. 791 00:39:59,099 --> 00:40:01,234 AND THAT WAS THE OPENING BID. 792 00:40:01,234 --> 00:40:05,005 THERE WERE ONLY TWO CONTESTED BIDS OUT OF THOSE 60 LOTS. 793 00:40:05,005 --> 00:40:08,375 YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE GOT THE HIGHEST RETURN, 794 00:40:08,375 --> 00:40:12,245 HOWEVER, WE DID GET THE APPRAISED VALUE, SO I THINK 795 00:40:12,245 --> 00:40:13,346 THAT'S PROBABLY OKAY. 796 00:40:13,346 --> 00:40:16,616 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 797 00:40:16,616 --> 00:40:20,286 >> THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE QUESTION I ASKED REPRESENTATIVE 798 00:40:20,286 --> 00:40:24,290 DENNEY, WHAT TOUGH POLITICAL DECISIONS DO YOU FORESEE HAVING 799 00:40:24,290 --> 00:40:25,091 TO MAKE? 800 00:40:25,091 --> 00:40:28,094 >> THAT'S ONE OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF 801 00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:28,828 STATE'S OFFICE. 802 00:40:28,828 --> 00:40:31,464 IF YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB RIGHT, YOU'RE HOLDING EVERYONE 803 00:40:31,464 --> 00:40:33,833 TO THE SAME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY. 804 00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:37,771 AND SURE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME PRESSURE PROBABLY FROM 805 00:40:37,771 --> 00:40:42,208 YOUR OWN PARTY, AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABOVE THAT. 806 00:40:42,208 --> 00:40:46,379 AND THAT'S WHAT BEN YSURSA HAS DONE AND THAT IS WHAT PETE 807 00:40:46,379 --> 00:40:51,151 CENARRUSA HAS DONE AND THAT IS THE LEGACY I AM COMMITTED TO 808 00:40:51,151 --> 00:40:51,951 PROTECT. 809 00:40:51,951 --> 00:40:54,854 >>> REPRESENTATIVE, IN DECEMBER OF 2012, YOU BECAME THE FIRST 810 00:40:54,854 --> 00:40:58,958 IDAHO HOUSE SPEAKER TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT POSITION BY 811 00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:00,326 HIS CAUCUS. 812 00:41:00,326 --> 00:41:04,431 I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU LEARNED AS A SEASONED VETERAN OF POLITICS 813 00:41:04,431 --> 00:41:07,600 AT THAT POINT IN YOUR CAREER AND HOW YOU WILL USE WHAT YOU 814 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,337 LEARNED TO BE A BETTER SECRETARY OF STATE? 815 00:41:10,337 --> 00:41:18,912 >> YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN REPORTS THAT I WAS OUSTED AS SPEAKER OF 816 00:41:18,912 --> 00:41:19,813 THE HOUSE. 817 00:41:19,813 --> 00:41:22,449 I DON'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARILY OUSTED IS WHAT I 818 00:41:22,449 --> 00:41:23,550 WOULD CALL IT. 819 00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:27,253 I THINK THERE WAS ONE ISSUE IN THAT ELECTION THAT MADE A BIG 820 00:41:27,253 --> 00:41:29,723 DIFFERENCE, AND THAT WAS THE INSURANCE EXCHANGE. 821 00:41:29,723 --> 00:41:35,895 AND I THINK THAT I HAD TO BE REMOVED TO HAVE THAT MOVE 822 00:41:35,895 --> 00:41:41,201 FORWARD, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT PUT INTO THAT AND I 823 00:41:41,201 --> 00:41:45,105 THINK THAT THAT IS THE REASON THAT I LOST THAT ELECTION. 824 00:41:45,105 --> 00:41:47,574 >> I HAVE A -- DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? 825 00:41:47,574 --> 00:41:49,376 >> I WOULD LOVE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. 826 00:41:49,376 --> 00:41:55,148 BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THOSE LEGISLATORS WHO WAS THERE WHEN 827 00:41:55,148 --> 00:41:57,517 LAWERENCE WAS OUSTED FROM HIS SPEAKERSHIP. 828 00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,152 THERE IS A REASON WHY THAT HAPPENED. 829 00:41:59,152 --> 00:42:02,722 IT WAS BECAUSE HE USED CAUCUS FUNDS AGAINST INCUMBENTS IN HIS 830 00:42:02,722 --> 00:42:04,357 OWN CAUCUS. 831 00:42:04,357 --> 00:42:10,730 IT WAS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T BRING HART UP ON ETHICS CHARGES AND 832 00:42:10,730 --> 00:42:13,500 INSTEAD TOOK THE VICE CHAIRMANSHIP OF A LEGISLATOR IN 833 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:14,534 VERY GOOD STANDING. 834 00:42:14,534 --> 00:42:18,338 IT WAS THAT EXTREME PARTISANSHIP THAT LED TO THAT 835 00:42:18,338 --> 00:42:20,173 OUSTING AND NOT ANY OTHER ISSUE. 836 00:42:20,173 --> 00:42:22,008 >> DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 837 00:42:22,008 --> 00:42:25,278 >> YES, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN CALL THAT PARTISANSHIP 838 00:42:25,278 --> 00:42:28,081 BECAUSE THESE WERE ALL WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 839 00:42:28,081 --> 00:42:30,750 HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE CAUCUS 840 00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:32,118 FUNDS AS WELL. 841 00:42:32,118 --> 00:42:33,019 THAT'S WRONG. 842 00:42:33,019 --> 00:42:35,021 THAT IS -- THAT IS NOT TRUE. 843 00:42:35,021 --> 00:42:38,525 YOU KNOW, THERE ARE -- THERE IS A CAUCUS FUND AND WHAT WE HAD 844 00:42:38,525 --> 00:42:43,897 WAS A VICTORY FUND WHICH WAS THE FUNDS THAT WAS CREATED BY 845 00:42:43,897 --> 00:42:48,368 MY PREDECESSOR, AND I REINSTITUTED IT WHEN I TOOK 846 00:42:48,368 --> 00:42:55,275 OVER AND IT WAS TO BE USED TO HELP OUR COLLEAGUES IN PRIMARY 847 00:42:55,275 --> 00:42:55,842 ELECTIONS. 848 00:42:55,842 --> 00:43:00,246 AND CERTAINLY WE DID NOT USE ONE DIME OF CAUCUS MONEY TO DO 849 00:43:00,246 --> 00:43:00,613 THAT. 850 00:43:00,613 --> 00:43:04,150 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, THE ISSUE THAT YOU SEE AS 851 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:08,054 RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR LOSING THE POSTED SPEAKER WAS THE HEALTH 852 00:43:08,054 --> 00:43:10,957 INSURANCE EXCHANGE, HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT? 853 00:43:10,957 --> 00:43:14,227 WAS IT BECAUSE YOUR POSITION WAS DIFFERENT FROM CURRENT 854 00:43:14,227 --> 00:43:16,496 SPEAKER ON THE EXCHANGE? 855 00:43:16,496 --> 00:43:19,799 >> MY POSITION ON THE EXCHANGE WAS THAT IT WOULD NOT BE 856 00:43:19,799 --> 00:43:23,803 BROUGHT TO THE FLOOR OR NOT BE BROUGHT UP IN COMMITTEE UNTIL A 857 00:43:23,803 --> 00:43:26,706 MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WAS ON BOARD. 858 00:43:26,706 --> 00:43:30,710 AND THAT NEVER DID HAPPEN. 859 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:35,181 >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS. 860 00:43:35,181 --> 00:43:38,351 COMPARED TO YOUR OPPONENT, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH LEADERSHIP 861 00:43:38,351 --> 00:43:40,720 EXPERIENCE TO FALL BACK ON IN THIS OFFICE. 862 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,390 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DRAW ON TO MAKE SOME OF THESE TOUGH 863 00:43:43,390 --> 00:43:44,557 POLITICAL DECISIONS? 864 00:43:44,557 --> 00:43:49,029 >> WELL, THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASK ME WHEN I WAS RUNNING MY 865 00:43:49,029 --> 00:43:52,732 FIRST LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN, WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO ONCE YOU 866 00:43:52,732 --> 00:43:53,733 GET INTO OFFICE? 867 00:43:53,733 --> 00:43:57,037 I THINK THEY EXPECTED ME TO HAVE A THREE-POINT PLAN. 868 00:43:57,037 --> 00:44:00,040 WHAT I TOLD THEM WAS I WANT TO FORM THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT 869 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,776 WILL BE THE BASIS FOR GOOD POLICY AND THE BASIS FOR THE 870 00:44:02,776 --> 00:44:07,347 REST OF MY SERVICE AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT I DID WHEN I GOT 871 00:44:07,347 --> 00:44:08,348 INTO THE LEGISLATURE. 872 00:44:08,348 --> 00:44:12,585 I HAVE WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIPS IN THE LEGISLATURE ACROSS THE 873 00:44:12,585 --> 00:44:18,158 AISLE AND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE THAT WILL GIVE ME THE 874 00:44:18,158 --> 00:44:21,428 ABILITY TO MAKE GOOD POLICY, TO WORK WITH LEGISLATORS, TO MAKE 875 00:44:21,428 --> 00:44:25,265 SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE POLLS, THAT WE'RE 876 00:44:25,265 --> 00:44:28,435 NOT LIMITING THAT ABILITY, AND I HAVE EXTREME CONFIDENCE IN MY 877 00:44:28,435 --> 00:44:31,171 ABILITY TO DO THAT. 878 00:44:31,171 --> 00:44:35,342 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM BETSY RUSSELL FOR REPRESENTATIVE 879 00:44:35,342 --> 00:44:35,909 WOODINGS. 880 00:44:35,909 --> 00:44:39,446 >> YESTERDAY AT THE BOISE CITY CLUB DEBATE, YOU SAID YOU 881 00:44:39,446 --> 00:44:43,717 INTRODUCED LEGISLATION THIS LAST YEAR TO END A RETIREMENT 882 00:44:43,717 --> 00:44:47,354 PERK FOR LONG-TIME LEGISLATORS WHO LATE IN THEIR CAREER HOLD A 883 00:44:47,354 --> 00:44:50,457 HIGH-PAYING STATE JOB, A PERK THAT OF COURSE WOULD BENEFIT 884 00:44:50,457 --> 00:44:53,360 YOUR OPPONENT SHOULD HE BE ELECTED. 885 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,561 WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOUR BILL? 886 00:44:54,561 --> 00:44:56,763 YOU SAID IT DIDN'T PROCEED BECAUSE IT WAS SEEN AS 887 00:44:56,763 --> 00:44:57,297 POLITICAL. 888 00:44:57,297 --> 00:44:59,499 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT DID YOU DO? 889 00:44:59,499 --> 00:45:04,070 >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO AS A MEMBER OF THE 890 00:45:04,070 --> 00:45:07,841 MINORITY PARTY, OFTEN YOU HAVE TO FIND A MEMBER OF THE 891 00:45:07,841 --> 00:45:11,311 MAJORITY PARTY TO COSPONSOR A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WITH YOU. 892 00:45:11,311 --> 00:45:16,416 I SHOPPED THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION AROUND THE 893 00:45:16,416 --> 00:45:18,885 LEGISLATURE, MANY MEMBERS OF THE MAJORITY PARTY THOUGHT IT 894 00:45:18,885 --> 00:45:22,088 WAS A GREAT IDEA AND WERE VERY MUCH ON BOARD BUT FELT IT 895 00:45:22,088 --> 00:45:25,158 WASN'T THE YEAR TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS VERY POLITICAL. 896 00:45:25,158 --> 00:45:28,428 AND SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL COME BACK IN SUBSEQUENT 897 00:45:28,428 --> 00:45:33,366 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT THAT IS 898 00:45:33,366 --> 00:45:34,501 LIKELY THE CASE. 899 00:45:34,501 --> 00:45:38,538 >> YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP FOR REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, BETSY. 900 00:45:38,538 --> 00:45:40,807 >> YES, LET'S SEE. 901 00:45:40,807 --> 00:45:41,541 SORRY. 902 00:45:41,541 --> 00:45:43,610 GETTING THINGS MIXED UP HERE. 903 00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:46,646 IF YOU ARE ELECTED TO THIS POSITION, WOULD YOU STILL 904 00:45:46,646 --> 00:45:47,914 SUPPORT THAT CHANGE IN LAW? 905 00:45:47,914 --> 00:45:51,718 WOULD YOU WANT TO REMOVE THAT FROM IDAHO LAW? 906 00:45:51,718 --> 00:45:55,388 >> WHAT THAT LAW REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS AN ISSUE OF 907 00:45:55,388 --> 00:45:56,189 FAIRNESS. 908 00:45:56,189 --> 00:46:00,060 MANY PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE THAT A SITTING LEGISLATOR CAN TAKE ALL 909 00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:03,596 OF THE YEARS THAT THEY SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE, AND THEN IF 910 00:46:03,596 --> 00:46:06,966 THEY GET A HIGHER POSITION AT A HIGHER PAY, ALL OF THOSE YEARS 911 00:46:06,966 --> 00:46:10,303 THAT THEY SERVED IN THE LEGISLATURE ARE NOW COUNTED AT 912 00:46:10,303 --> 00:46:13,139 THE HIGHER PAY LEVEL FOR PURPOSES OF THEIR RETIREMENT. 913 00:46:13,139 --> 00:46:17,243 SO, IN THE CASE OF MY OPPONENT, LAWERENCE, HIS RETIREMENT WOULD 914 00:46:17,243 --> 00:46:23,049 BE BOOSTED FROM $400 A MONTH SHOULD HE RETIRE TODAY, TO 915 00:46:23,049 --> 00:46:27,787 $3,600 A MONTH SHOULD HE RETIRE AT THE END OF A FOUR-YEAR TERM 916 00:46:27,787 --> 00:46:29,089 AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 917 00:46:29,089 --> 00:46:32,792 LEGISLATORS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR 918 00:46:32,792 --> 00:46:33,426 LOOPHOLE. 919 00:46:33,426 --> 00:46:35,628 SO, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THAT FAIR? 920 00:46:35,628 --> 00:46:38,865 WHY IS THAT FAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS OF IDAHO -- 921 00:46:38,865 --> 00:46:41,267 >> DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? 922 00:46:41,267 --> 00:46:42,068 >> ABSOLUTELY. 923 00:46:42,068 --> 00:46:45,271 YOU KNOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, THAT -- THAT BILL WAS HEARD IN 924 00:46:45,271 --> 00:46:47,107 THE IDAHO LEGISLATURE. 925 00:46:47,107 --> 00:46:49,542 IT CAME BEFORE THE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. 926 00:46:49,542 --> 00:46:52,912 IT HAD A FULL HEARING AND IT WAS HELD BECAUSE THERE WERE 927 00:46:52,912 --> 00:46:55,815 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT THAT NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED AND THOSE 928 00:46:55,815 --> 00:46:59,452 ANSWERS WERE NOT FORTHCOMING. 929 00:46:59,452 --> 00:47:01,755 CONSEQUENTLY THE BILL WAS THEN HELD. 930 00:47:01,755 --> 00:47:05,291 I TOLD THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, IT'S TOO LATE IN THE SESSION. 931 00:47:05,291 --> 00:47:06,226 DON'T DO IT. 932 00:47:06,226 --> 00:47:11,297 I THINK THE REAL QUESTION THAT WE OUGHT TO BE ASKING IS NOT 933 00:47:11,297 --> 00:47:16,603 WHETHER REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS SHOULD BE ON THE -- 934 00:47:16,603 --> 00:47:23,243 SHOULD BE CREDITED A YEAR OF SERVICE FOR A YEAR OF TIME, I 935 00:47:23,243 --> 00:47:25,879 THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS SHOULD ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL BE 936 00:47:25,879 --> 00:47:27,781 ON THE PERCY SYSTEM AS ALL? 937 00:47:27,781 --> 00:47:32,419 AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BETTER ADDRESSED, 938 00:47:32,419 --> 00:47:37,590 I THINK IT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE 939 00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:40,593 ON COMPENSATION SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AND NOT THE 940 00:47:40,593 --> 00:47:41,261 LEGISLATURE. 941 00:47:41,261 --> 00:47:43,596 >> YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP. 942 00:47:43,596 --> 00:47:48,068 >> AS YOUR OPPONENT POINTED OUT THAT YOUR RETIREMENT PENSION 943 00:47:48,068 --> 00:47:57,010 WOULD JUMP I THINK FROM -- I'M CURIOUS, HOW MUCH DID THAT 944 00:47:57,010 --> 00:48:00,547 WEIGH IN WHEN YOU WERE CONSIDERING MAKING A RUN FOR 945 00:48:00,547 --> 00:48:02,816 SECRETARY OF STATE -- >> ABSOLUTELY NONE. 946 00:48:02,816 --> 00:48:05,919 I WAS CERTAINLY NOT LOOKING AT THE RETIREMENT AS SOMETHING 947 00:48:05,919 --> 00:48:10,757 THAT WAS A -- THAT WAS PERKING MY INTEREST TO RUN FOR 948 00:48:10,757 --> 00:48:11,591 SECRETARY OF STATE. 949 00:48:11,591 --> 00:48:16,129 AND CERTAINLY, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WHILE, YES, MY RETIREMENT 950 00:48:16,129 --> 00:48:19,833 WOULD BE BUMPED UP, BUT THE SAME COULD BE SAID FOR ANY 951 00:48:19,833 --> 00:48:27,340 STATE EMPLOYEE THAT WENT FROM A $16,000 A YEAR JOB TO $100,000, 952 00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:30,310 THEIR RETIREMENT WOULD BE BUMPED IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF 953 00:48:30,310 --> 00:48:30,977 TIME. 954 00:48:30,977 --> 00:48:33,980 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE ARE CREDITED OUR TIME IN 955 00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:38,418 SERVICE IN THE LEGISLATURE, THE SAME AS IF WE WERE FULL-TIME 956 00:48:38,418 --> 00:48:41,321 EMPLOYEES, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT WE ARE 957 00:48:41,321 --> 00:48:44,257 FULL-TIME OR NOT FULL-TIME, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU 958 00:48:44,257 --> 00:48:47,527 KNOW, THAT I THINK THAT THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE ON 959 00:48:47,527 --> 00:48:48,695 COMPENSATION SHOULD LOOK AT. 960 00:48:48,695 --> 00:48:50,163 >> YOU WANTED TO RESPOND. 961 00:48:50,163 --> 00:48:52,699 >> YES, THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. 962 00:48:52,699 --> 00:48:55,902 STATE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME WAY. 963 00:48:55,902 --> 00:48:58,805 THEIR PENSIONS ARE BROKEN OUT BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT 964 00:48:58,805 --> 00:49:02,542 THEY MADE FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE AND IF THEY 965 00:49:02,542 --> 00:49:06,846 MAKE A HIGHER AMOUNT IN LATTER YEARS, THOSE ARE BROKEN OUT IN 966 00:49:06,846 --> 00:49:09,749 THE PERCY SYSTEM AND COMPENSATED IN THEIR RETIREMENT 967 00:49:09,749 --> 00:49:11,484 ACCORDINGLY. 968 00:49:11,484 --> 00:49:14,387 LEGISLATORS ARE THE ONLY STATE EMPLOYEES WHO RECEIVE THIS 969 00:49:14,387 --> 00:49:17,390 TREATMENT, AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR. 970 00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:19,325 >> BETSY, YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP. 971 00:49:19,325 --> 00:49:22,295 >> REPRESENTATIVE DENNEY, YOU SAID A MOMENT AGO, TO YOU THE 972 00:49:22,295 --> 00:49:26,399 REAL QUESTION IS SHOULD ELECTED OFFICIALS EVEN BE PART OF OUR 973 00:49:26,399 --> 00:49:27,867 STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM? 974 00:49:27,867 --> 00:49:28,968 DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD? 975 00:49:28,968 --> 00:49:33,073 >> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS ELECTED 976 00:49:33,073 --> 00:49:36,509 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 977 00:49:36,509 --> 00:49:40,980 AND I THINK THAT IF YOU REMOVE THE RETIREMENT PORTION TOTALLY 978 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:44,884 FROM ALL LEGISLATORS, IF YOU REMOVE THAT RETIREMENT PORTION 979 00:49:44,884 --> 00:49:48,521 FROM ALL ELECTED OFFICERS, AND GIVE THEM THE COMPENSATION SO 980 00:49:48,521 --> 00:49:54,060 THAT THEY COULD PUT IT IN THEIR OWN 401-K OR WHATEVER, I THINK 981 00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:57,230 WE COULD DO THAT AND DO IT VERY PAINLESSLY. 982 00:49:57,230 --> 00:49:59,432 >> I'M CURIOUS -- REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS 983 00:49:59,432 --> 00:50:00,266 RESPONSE TO THAT. 984 00:50:00,266 --> 00:50:05,538 >> WELL, THE PERCY SYSTEM WORKS INCREDIBLY WELL AND MY STEPMOM 985 00:50:05,538 --> 00:50:10,443 WORKED FOR THE CITY OF BOISE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND IS 986 00:50:10,443 --> 00:50:14,514 NOW ENJOYING HER PERCY RETIREMENT WHICH SHE EARNED 987 00:50:14,514 --> 00:50:17,751 VERY MUCH. 988 00:50:17,751 --> 00:50:24,124 TO ME AS A LEGISLATOR, IF I RETIRED TOMORROW, I WOULD 989 00:50:24,124 --> 00:50:25,358 PROBABLY GET $80 A MONTH. 990 00:50:25,358 --> 00:50:26,393 WHO REALLY CARES. 991 00:50:26,393 --> 00:50:29,362 BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGISLATORS OUT THERE WHO, YOU 992 00:50:29,362 --> 00:50:34,134 KNOW, IT IS A PERK OF PUBLIC SERVICE, AND IT IS A VERY SMALL 993 00:50:34,134 --> 00:50:37,470 PERK FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON'T GO INTO A HIGHER POSITION AFTER 994 00:50:37,470 --> 00:50:41,207 MANY YEARS IN THE LEGISLATURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO 995 00:50:41,207 --> 00:50:44,210 TALK TO THE MANY LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE SERVED MANY, MANY 996 00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:47,580 YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE TO THIS STATE BEFORE I TOOK A STANCE ON 997 00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:47,947 THAT. 998 00:50:47,947 --> 00:50:49,949 >> DID YOU WANT IT RESPOND TO THAT? 999 00:50:49,949 --> 00:50:54,754 >> AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ANY LEGISLATORS THAT 1000 00:50:54,754 --> 00:50:58,892 TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RUNNING FOR OFFICE WITH THE 1001 00:50:58,892 --> 00:50:59,793 RETIREMENT IN MIND. 1002 00:50:59,793 --> 00:51:03,229 YOU KNOW, AND, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IF TOMORROW WE SAID THERE 1003 00:51:03,229 --> 00:51:07,100 IS NO RETIREMENT FOR LEGISLATORS, NEW LEGISLATORS, 1004 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:11,237 SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, I 1005 00:51:11,237 --> 00:51:14,641 THINK THAT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE EXACT SAME CANDIDATES THAT 1006 00:51:14,641 --> 00:51:15,542 YOU HAVE NOW. 1007 00:51:15,542 --> 00:51:17,811 I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE. 1008 00:51:17,811 --> 00:51:23,183 AND I THINK THE PERCY SYSTEM IS WELL-RUN, AND I -- BUT I DON'T 1009 00:51:23,183 --> 00:51:26,753 THINK THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER ELECTED OFFICIALS 1010 00:51:26,753 --> 00:51:28,555 SHOULD BE ON THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 1011 00:51:28,555 --> 00:51:30,824 >> WE HAVE GOT A LITTLE LESS THAN A MINUTE LEFT. 1012 00:51:30,824 --> 00:51:35,528 >> WOULD YOU ADVOCATE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE OUTLINED, DOING AWAY 1013 00:51:35,528 --> 00:51:38,398 WITH PERCY COVERAGE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS? 1014 00:51:38,398 --> 00:51:41,768 >> YOU KNOW, AS SECRETARY OF STATE, I PROBABLY WON'T BE 1015 00:51:41,768 --> 00:51:42,769 ADVOCATING FOR THAT. 1016 00:51:42,769 --> 00:51:46,473 BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE ALL ELECTED 1017 00:51:46,473 --> 00:51:50,210 OFFICIALS OFF OF THE PERCY SYSTEM. 1018 00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:54,047 >> REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS WOULD YOU LIKE IT RESPOND? 1019 00:51:54,047 --> 00:51:54,948 >> THAT'S OKAY. 1020 00:51:54,948 --> 00:51:57,050 THANK YOU. 1021 00:51:57,050 --> 00:52:00,153 >> WELL, WE ARE -- WE'RE ABOUT OUT OF TIME. 1022 00:52:00,153 --> 00:52:02,422 REPRESENTATIVE WOODINGS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? 1023 00:52:02,422 --> 00:52:04,257 >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 1024 00:52:04,257 --> 00:52:08,161 AND THANK YOU TO IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION, BOISE STATE 1025 00:52:08,161 --> 00:52:11,865 UNIVERSITY, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, IDAHO PRESS CLUB AND 1026 00:52:11,865 --> 00:52:18,738 MANY PEOPLE WHO TUNED IN TONIGHT EITHER OVER THE AIR, OR 1027 00:52:18,738 --> 00:52:19,439 ONLINE. 1028 00:52:19,439 --> 00:52:25,712 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE SHOULD BE A NONPARTISAN 1029 00:52:25,712 --> 00:52:27,714 POSITION. 1030 00:52:27,714 --> 00:52:31,885 AS YOUR SECRETARY OF STATE, I WILL RUN A FAIR AND HONEST 1031 00:52:31,885 --> 00:52:34,654 OFFICE AND I WILL DO SO IMPARTIALLY. 1032 00:52:34,654 --> 00:52:37,724 I WILL UPDATE THE OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY, CONTINUE SAME-DAY 1033 00:52:37,724 --> 00:52:41,094 VOTER REGISTRATION, PUSH FOR VOTER REGISTRATION AT THE DMV, 1034 00:52:41,094 --> 00:52:44,564 AND WORK PROACTIVELY TO GIVE ALL IDAHO CITIZENS AN 1035 00:52:44,564 --> 00:52:48,468 OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR DEMOCRACY. 1036 00:52:48,468 --> 00:52:52,639 ASSURING YOU AND YOUR NEIGHBORS HAVE ACCESS TO THE VOTE DOES 1037 00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:54,207 NOT HAPPEN ON ITS OWN. 1038 00:52:54,207 --> 00:53:00,714 IT TAKES HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO A FAIR AND HONEST 1039 00:53:00,714 --> 00:53:01,881 ELECTORAL SYSTEM. 1040 00:53:01,881 --> 00:53:02,882 LET ME MAKE CLEAR. 1041 00:53:02,882 --> 00:53:06,686 WE CAN HAVE ELECTORAL ACCESS AND ELECTORAL INTEGRITY. 1042 00:53:06,686 --> 00:53:09,255 THE TWO ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 1043 00:53:09,255 --> 00:53:16,796 FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS, IDAHOANS HAVE RELIED ON TWO SECRETARY OF 1044 00:53:16,796 --> 00:53:20,266 STATE TO RUN OUR ELECTIONS IN A FAIRWAY. 1045 00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:22,268 I PLAN TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION. 1046 00:53:22,268 --> 00:53:25,438 IT IS WHAT YOU HAVE COME TO EXPECT, WHAT YOU DESERVE AND MY 1047 00:53:25,438 --> 00:53:27,707 COMMITMENT TO YOU AS SECRETARY OF STATE. 1048 00:53:27,707 --> 00:53:31,378 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING AN INTEREST IN THIS RACE. 1049 00:53:31,378 --> 00:53:35,548 MY NAME IS HOLLI WOODINGS, I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE AND THANK YOU 1050 00:53:35,548 --> 00:53:36,816 FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. 1051 00:53:36,816 --> 00:53:40,353 >> WELL, THANK YOU, MELISSA, AND THANK YOU TO THE PANEL FOR 1052 00:53:40,353 --> 00:53:42,288 THE GREAT QUESTIONS. 1053 00:53:42,288 --> 00:53:48,094 I WAS ASKED THE OTHER DAY WHY DO YOU LIKE DOING THIS 1054 00:53:48,094 --> 00:53:48,928 POLITICAL THING? 1055 00:53:48,928 --> 00:53:53,199 AND IT KIND OF SET ME BACK AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 1056 00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:54,901 IT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 1057 00:53:54,901 --> 00:53:58,071 AND THE ANSWER IS I REALLY DON'T LIKE DOING THIS POLITICAL 1058 00:53:58,071 --> 00:53:58,672 THING. 1059 00:53:58,672 --> 00:54:03,576 AND WHO WOULD LIKE HAVING THEIR NAME PUT OUT THERE AND DRUG 1060 00:54:03,576 --> 00:54:08,982 THROUGH THE MUD AND HAVE YOUR MOTIVES NOT ONLY QUESTIONED, 1061 00:54:08,982 --> 00:54:13,053 BUT ALSO TOLD WHAT YOUR MOTIVES ARE IN THE WORST POSSIBLE 1062 00:54:13,053 --> 00:54:13,687 LIGHT. 1063 00:54:13,687 --> 00:54:18,058 AND WHO WOULD LIKE HAVING THEIR CHARACTER AND THEIR INTEGRITY 1064 00:54:18,058 --> 00:54:18,792 QUESTIONED? 1065 00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:21,261 CERTAINLY THE ANSWER IS NO ONE. 1066 00:54:21,261 --> 00:54:24,164 SO, WHY DO I DO THIS? 1067 00:54:24,164 --> 00:54:27,801 WELL, I STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH THE IDEA THAT I COULD 1068 00:54:27,801 --> 00:54:28,868 MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 1069 00:54:28,868 --> 00:54:33,006 AND I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE. 1070 00:54:33,006 --> 00:54:37,811 I FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT MY KIDS, MY 1071 00:54:37,811 --> 00:54:41,181 GRANDKIDS, AND THE FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN TASTE THE 1072 00:54:41,181 --> 00:54:44,818 FREEDOM THAT I HAVE ENJOYED IN MY LIFE. 1073 00:54:44,818 --> 00:54:50,824 AS RONALD REAGAN ONCE SAID, FREEDOM IS ONLY ONE GENERATION 1074 00:54:50,824 --> 00:54:52,192 AWAY FROM EXTINCTION. 1075 00:54:52,192 --> 00:54:58,198 WE DON'T PASS IT ON IN THE BLOODSTREAM, WE HAVE TO -- WE 1076 00:54:58,198 --> 00:55:02,335 MUST FIGHT FOR IT AND PASS IT ON SO THAT THE NEXT GENERATION 1077 00:55:02,335 --> 00:55:04,571 CAN DO THE SAME. 1078 00:55:04,571 --> 00:55:05,872 FOLKS, THAT'S MY MOTIVATION. 1079 00:55:05,872 --> 00:55:07,240 THANK YOU AGAIN. 1080 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:08,141 >> ALL RIGHT. 1081 00:55:08,141 --> 00:55:11,845 THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE TIME. 1082 00:55:11,845 --> 00:55:14,514 THANKS AGAIN TO THE CANDIDATES FOR THEIR TIME TONIGHT. 1083 00:55:14,514 --> 00:55:16,883 THANKS TO THE REPORTERS FOR THEIR GREAT QUESTIONS AND TO 1084 00:55:16,883 --> 00:55:19,586 OUR VIEWERS AT HOME FOR WATCHING. 1085 00:55:19,586 --> 00:55:24,257 YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE AND OTHER CANDIDATES ON OUR WEB 1086 00:55:24,257 --> 00:55:29,629 SITE, idahoptv.org idahoptv.org/ELECTIONS/2014. 1087 00:55:29,629 --> 00:55:32,165 WHILE THERE, CHECK OUT ANY DEBATES THAT YOU MISSED. 1088 00:55:32,165 --> 00:55:37,070 THURSDAY NIGHT AT 7:00 P.M., TWO CANDIDATES FOR IDAHO'S 5th 1089 00:55:37,070 --> 00:55:38,338 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT IN THE U.S. 1090 00:55:38,338 --> 00:55:41,374 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WILL TAKE THE STAGE. 1091 00:55:41,374 --> 00:55:44,277 FOLLOWED BY THE TREASURERS DEBATE. 1092 00:55:44,277 --> 00:55:49,015 MORE DEBATES COMING UP THIS MONTH. 1093 00:55:49,015 --> 00:55:49,649 THANKS SO MUCH. 1094 00:55:49,649 --> 00:55:50,383 GOOD NIGHT. 1095 00:55:50,383 --> 00:56:00,326 WE WILL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS. 1096 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:05,598 Captioning Performed by LNS Captioning www.lnscaptioning.com 1097 00:56:24,317 --> 00:56:41,534 >> THE IDAHO DEBATES MADE POSSIBLE BY: IDAHO DEBATES ALSO 1098 00:56:41,534 --> 00:56:44,537 BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE IDAHO 1099 00:56:44,537 --> 00:56:45,638 PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 1100 00:56:45,638 --> 00:56:48,541 THANK YOU.