1 00:00:01,101 --> 00:00:03,803 >> WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES. 2 00:00:03,803 --> 00:00:08,341 A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES ON A GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT FOR THE 3 00:00:08,341 --> 00:00:09,009 IDAHO SUPREME COURT. 4 00:00:09,009 --> 00:00:12,178 THE IDAHO DEBASE IS A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT OF THE 5 00:00:12,178 --> 00:00:16,549 IDAHO PRESS CLUB, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF IDAHO, BOISE 6 00:00:16,549 --> 00:00:19,886 STATE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND IDAHO PUBLIC 7 00:00:19,886 --> 00:00:20,353 TELEVISION. 8 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:23,523 THE IDAHO DEBATES ARE ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE 9 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:28,128 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION ENDOWMENT. 10 00:00:28,128 --> 00:00:28,461 >> HELLO. 11 00:00:28,461 --> 00:00:31,831 WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES ARRIVE FROM THE TOYED PUBLIC 12 00:00:31,831 --> 00:00:33,133 TELEVISION STUDIOS IN BOISE. 13 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:36,302 THIS IS OUR FIRST AND ONLY DEBATE OF THE SEASON BUT IT'S A 14 00:00:36,302 --> 00:00:39,939 GOOD ONE, THE ONLY TELEVISED DEBATE WITH THE CANDIDATES VYING 15 00:00:39,939 --> 00:00:42,842 TO BE THE STATE'S NEXT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. 16 00:00:42,842 --> 00:00:46,579 A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN IDAHO IS ONE OF FIVE WHO WILL WORK AS 17 00:00:46,579 --> 00:00:48,481 ULTIMATE AND FINAL LEGALITY AUTHORITY IN THE STATE. 18 00:00:48,481 --> 00:00:55,955 THEY HAVE THE LAST SAY IN IDAHO LEGAL MATTERS THEIR DUTIES ARE 19 00:00:55,955 --> 00:00:59,959 EXECUTION OF FAIR, IMPARTIAL DELIBERATION AND RULINGS ON SOME 20 00:00:59,959 --> 00:01:02,629 OF THE MOST DIFFICULT LEGAL QUESTIONS IN THE STATE, 21 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:04,798 PROTECTING EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND PROTECTING THE 22 00:01:04,798 --> 00:01:06,900 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO. 23 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,536 TONIGHT WE WELCOME TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ASKING FOR 24 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:11,237 YOUR VOTE. 25 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:15,442 ROBYN BRODY HAS PRACTICED LAW IN THE MAGIC VALLEY FOR 20 YEARS. 26 00:01:15,442 --> 00:01:20,513 SHE SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE 5th DISTRICT IDAHO BAR 27 00:01:20,513 --> 00:01:24,250 ASSOCIATION SHE GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER COLLEGE 28 00:01:24,250 --> 00:01:26,286 OF LAW. 29 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:29,289 CURT McKENZIE GRADUATED FROM THE GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY LAW 30 00:01:29,289 --> 00:01:29,556 CENTER. 31 00:01:29,556 --> 00:01:33,827 HE WORKED ONE YEAR IN THE ADA COUNTY PROS KITING ATTORNEY'S 32 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:38,531 OFFICE AND SIX YEARS IN CIVIL LITIGATION. 33 00:01:38,531 --> 00:01:42,936 HE SERVED SEVEN TERMS IN THE NORTH IDAHO SENATE AND WAS 34 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:46,573 PRESIDENT OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ECONOMIC REGION. 35 00:01:46,573 --> 00:01:50,577 ALSO ON STAGE WITH ME IS OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS SELECTED BY 36 00:01:50,577 --> 00:01:51,778 THE IDAHO PRESS CLUB. 37 00:01:51,778 --> 00:01:56,683 THEY WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND BETSY RUSSELL OF THE SPOKESMAN 38 00:01:56,683 --> 00:02:01,054 REVIEW AND REBECCA BOONE OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. 39 00:02:01,054 --> 00:02:02,522 I'M MELISSA DAVLIN. 40 00:02:02,522 --> 00:02:06,526 I'M MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE AND WILL DO MY BEST TO MAKE SURE 41 00:02:06,526 --> 00:02:09,796 ALL CANDIDATES GET EQUAL TIME AND STAY ON POINT. 42 00:02:09,796 --> 00:02:14,968 TO REMIND THEM HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING IS OUR 43 00:02:14,968 --> 00:02:21,241 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. 44 00:02:21,241 --> 00:02:24,911 MORE FOCUS ON INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION THAT HELPS THE VOTER 45 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:27,547 CAST A MORE INFORMED BALLOT. 46 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:30,917 EACH WILL BE GIVEN ONE MINUTE FOR OPENING COMMENTS AND ONE FOR 47 00:02:30,917 --> 00:02:31,117 CLOSE. 48 00:02:31,117 --> 00:02:38,458 WE FLIPPED A COIN AND SENATOR McKENZIE, THE HONOR GOES TO 49 00:02:38,458 --> 00:02:39,092 YOU YOU. 50 00:02:39,092 --> 00:02:40,560 >> THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,729 I'M CURT MUCK KENZIE. 52 00:02:42,729 --> 00:02:46,633 EYE BELIEVE I'M THE RIGHT COURTHOUSE FOR ID TO SUPREME 53 00:02:46,633 --> 00:02:51,137 COURT BASED ON MOI PHILOSOPHY, BROAD WORK EXPERIENCE AND RECORD 54 00:02:51,137 --> 00:02:52,105 OF PUBLIC SERVICE. 55 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:54,040 MY PHILOSOPHY IS A SIMPLE ONE. 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,743 APPLY THE CONSTITUTION AND STATUTES AS WRITTEN. 57 00:02:56,743 --> 00:03:01,314 MY EDUCATION IS ROOTED IN IDAHO ON THE THIRD GENERATION TO GO TO 58 00:03:01,314 --> 00:03:01,581 NAU. 59 00:03:01,581 --> 00:03:04,351 THEN I WENT TO GEORGETOWN AND STUDIED LAW. 60 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:08,688 FROM THERE I HAVE WORKED FOR LARGE NATIONAL LAW FIRMS DOING 61 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:10,623 COMPLEX CIVIL LITIGATION. 62 00:03:10,623 --> 00:03:14,160 I PROSECUTED CRIMES ON BEHALF OF IDAHO AND HAVE HAD MY OWN 63 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,696 PRACTICE REPRESENTING INDIVIDUALS AND SMALL 64 00:03:16,696 --> 00:03:17,063 BUSINESSES. 65 00:03:17,063 --> 00:03:21,534 I'M PROUD OF MY RECORD OF PUBLIC SERVICE IN THE IDAHO SAID 66 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:21,901 SENATE. 67 00:03:21,901 --> 00:03:25,271 IDAHO HAS A LONG TRADITION OF JUSTICES HAVING PUBLIC SERVICE 68 00:03:25,271 --> 00:03:26,806 IN THE ELECTED ARENA. 69 00:03:26,806 --> 00:03:29,275 I BELIEVE IT'S AN ASSET FOR THE COURT. 70 00:03:29,275 --> 00:03:32,012 AGAIN, I'M CURT MCSEND PSI. 71 00:03:32,012 --> 00:03:34,814 I'M ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE ON NOVEMBER 8. 72 00:03:34,814 --> 00:03:37,550 >> NEXT FROM ROBYN BRODY. 73 00:03:37,550 --> 00:03:41,187 >> SINCE THIS RACE STARTED I HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS IN 74 00:03:41,187 --> 00:03:42,088 THE CAR. 75 00:03:42,088 --> 00:03:45,892 I HAVE TRAVELED MORE THAN 28,000 MILES ACROSS THIS STATE. 76 00:03:45,892 --> 00:03:49,562 PEOPLE HAVE INVITED ME INTO THEIR POLITICAL MEETINGS, INTO 77 00:03:49,562 --> 00:03:52,932 THEIR BUSINESS ROOMS, THEIR BUSINESS BOARDROOMS, INTO THEIR 78 00:03:52,932 --> 00:03:57,103 HOSPITALS, INTO THEIR CHURCHES, LIBRARIES, THEIR HOMES. 79 00:03:57,103 --> 00:03:59,939 I HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO. 80 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:03,943 I HAVE ALSO HAD 15 CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM AND EDUCATE THEM 81 00:04:03,943 --> 00:04:05,412 ABOUT THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT. 82 00:04:05,412 --> 00:04:10,050 WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE DON'T DO. 83 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:12,519 THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER ON THE 84 00:04:12,519 --> 00:04:13,887 IDAHO CONSTITUTION. 85 00:04:13,887 --> 00:04:15,355 ON IDAHO LAW. 86 00:04:15,355 --> 00:04:19,526 THEY MANAGE THE SYSTEM, WE MANAGE FOR THE ENTIRE STATE, THE 87 00:04:19,526 --> 00:04:20,427 ENTIRE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. 88 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:25,265 BUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS CHANGE THOSE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY 89 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:28,268 THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES AND WASHINGTON D.C. 90 00:04:28,268 --> 00:04:30,904 WE'RE IN CHARGE OF THE IDAHO CONSTITUTION. 91 00:04:30,904 --> 00:04:35,975 OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, TO HUNT, FISH AND TAKE CARE OF VICTIMS' 92 00:04:35,975 --> 00:04:36,242 RIGHTS. 93 00:04:36,242 --> 00:04:40,513 THOSE ARE THE THINGS THATTED IT HO -- IDAHO CONSTITUTION AND 94 00:04:40,513 --> 00:04:42,082 SUPREME COURT CAN PROTECT. 95 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:43,116 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 96 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:46,720 THE FIRST QUESTION WILL COME FROM REBECCA. 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:52,726 >> YOU SAID THAT YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THE LAW REGARDLESS OF 98 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:54,294 PUBLIC OPINION. 99 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:58,498 SENATOR McKENZIE YOU JUST MENTIONED YOU FAVOR A MORE TEXT 100 00:04:58,498 --> 00:05:01,568 WALLIST APPROACH, APPLYING PLAIN LANGUAGE OF LAW TO A LEGAL 101 00:05:01,568 --> 00:05:03,770 QUESTION WITHOUT UNDUE REGARD FOR THE RESULTS. 102 00:05:03,770 --> 00:05:09,476 DO YOU THINK THERE'S EVER ROOM FOR A MORE ARISTOTLE INFLUENCE 103 00:05:09,476 --> 00:05:12,679 WHERE YOU MAY CONSIDER WHAT A REASONABLE LEGISLATURE MAY HAVE 104 00:05:12,679 --> 00:05:13,146 INTENDED? 105 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:15,482 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 106 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:19,486 I BELIEVE THAT QUESTION REALLY ADDRESSES THAT FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE 107 00:05:19,486 --> 00:05:21,721 OF SEPARATION OF POWER. 108 00:05:21,721 --> 00:05:26,593 AND IT'S THOSE CASES WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE A JUSTICE MAY 109 00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:31,598 WANT TO DO WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS RIGHT IN A PARTICULAR SITUATION, 110 00:05:31,598 --> 00:05:36,002 THAT THEY ARE MOST LIKELY TO WANT TO TRY AND INTERPRET THE 111 00:05:36,002 --> 00:05:39,506 LANGUAGE IN A WAY THAT THEY THINK PRODUCES THE RIGHT RESULT 112 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:43,076 EVEN IF IT DOESN'T QUITE DO JUSTICE TO THE TEXT. 113 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:46,379 THOSE ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES I BELIEVE IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY 114 00:05:46,379 --> 00:05:50,350 IMPORTANT FOR A JUSTICE TO APPLY THE TEXT OF WHAT'S WRITTEN AND 115 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:55,188 TO DO SO APPLYING THE LANGUAGE AS IT WAS UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME 116 00:05:55,188 --> 00:06:00,560 THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED OR THE STATUTE PASSED. 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:10,603 >> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CASE LAW SUGGESTS A RESULT THAT WOULD BE 118 00:06:10,603 --> 00:06:12,772 INELKIBLE TO THE PARTIES? 119 00:06:12,772 --> 00:06:16,076 IDAHO'S CONSTITUTION MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR MORMONS TO VOTE 120 00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:19,412 UNTIL ABOUT 1882 -- 1982. 121 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:22,982 MANY OF OUR TRANSPORTATION LAWS WERE WRITTEN BEFORE DRIVERLESS 122 00:06:22,982 --> 00:06:25,051 CARS WERE CONSIDEREDAR POSSIBILITY. 123 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:30,090 >> OUR CONSTITUTION CAN BE AMENDED OVER TIME. 124 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:36,629 IN FACT IN IDAHO OVER 130 TIMES THE PEOPLE HAVE GONE BACK AND 125 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:37,630 AMENDED THE CONSTITUTION. 126 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:39,532 IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO. 127 00:06:39,532 --> 00:06:42,635 BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE UP TO JUDGES. 128 00:06:42,635 --> 00:06:46,439 THREE JUDGES WHICH WOULD BE A MAJORITY ON OUR COURT, TO SET 129 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:47,607 THAT POLICY. 130 00:06:47,607 --> 00:06:52,178 IT'S UP TO PEOPLE TO FIX THOSE INEQUITIES. 131 00:06:52,178 --> 00:06:57,350 OUR LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS ELECTED TO TWO-ER TERMS IS 132 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:59,486 CLOSELY RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ELECT THEM. 133 00:06:59,486 --> 00:07:01,755 THEY SET THE POLICY. 134 00:07:01,755 --> 00:07:04,758 THERE ARE TIMES THEY NEED TO CHANGE THAT LAW OR THE PEOPLE 135 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:08,128 WILL WANT TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION AND THERE'S A 136 00:07:08,128 --> 00:07:09,963 PROCESS TO BE FOLLOWED. 137 00:07:09,963 --> 00:07:12,332 >> OKAY. 138 00:07:12,332 --> 00:07:15,035 MRS. BRODY I WOULD ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION. 139 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:21,875 DO YOU FAVOR A TEXT TU AL APPROACH OR DO YOU TAKE THE 140 00:07:21,875 --> 00:07:24,511 APPROACH TRYING TO INTERPRET WHAT A REASONABLE LEGISLATURE 141 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:27,480 MAY HAVE DONE OR INTENDED WHEN THEY CREATED A LAW? 142 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,884 >> I THINK THE GOOD AND FAITHFUL JUDGE LOOKS AT WHAT'S WRITTEN, 143 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:33,987 WHAT'S THERE IN PLAQUE AND WHITE, AND EVEN WHEN IT MEANS 144 00:07:33,987 --> 00:07:38,491 THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE RESULT, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT 145 00:07:38,491 --> 00:07:38,958 LINE. 146 00:07:38,958 --> 00:07:45,231 NOW, LET ME BE CLEAR, JUDGES STILL JUDGE, AND JUDGES JUDGE 147 00:07:45,231 --> 00:07:49,269 EVERY DAY EVEN SOMETIMES IN THE STATUTES THAT ARE PASSED BY THE 148 00:07:49,269 --> 00:07:49,636 LEGISLATURE. 149 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:54,341 I'M THINKING ABOUT AN ATTORNEY FEE STATUTE IN IDAHO THAT ALLOWS 150 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:58,211 FOR JUDGES OR TELLS JUDGES THAT THEY MAY AWARD FEES. 151 00:07:58,211 --> 00:08:01,848 SO OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE COURT TO DECIDE WHEN ARE 152 00:08:01,848 --> 00:08:03,817 THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. 153 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:07,954 JUDGES ARE NOT -- WE'RE NOT AUTO MA TONS. 154 00:08:07,954 --> 00:08:11,124 WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS WITH SIMPLE DATA IN AND DATA OUT. 155 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:15,128 AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUDGES JUDGE. 156 00:08:15,128 --> 00:08:19,232 >> SO AS A FOLLOW-UP I THINK ACTUALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR THE 157 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:25,305 IDAHO SUPREME COURT WAS REMANDED BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TOLD 158 00:08:25,305 --> 00:08:30,043 TO APPROACH THE WAY IT AWARDS ATTORNEYS FEES DIFFERENTLY 159 00:08:30,043 --> 00:08:33,880 BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT DIDN'T JIVE WITH FEDERAL CASE LAW. 160 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:42,422 IS THERE EVER A POINT WHERE YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE TEXTUALISM TO 161 00:08:42,422 --> 00:08:45,892 INTERPRET CASE LAW AS IT'S BEING INTERPRETED BY OTHER JUDGES WHO 162 00:08:45,892 --> 00:08:49,629 MAY TAKE A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY APPROACH? 163 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:53,066 >> YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT TO USE COMMON SENSE AND BE ABLE TO 164 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:57,170 ADDRESS NEW SITUATIONS THAT THE CONSTITUTION DIDN'T ENVISION. 165 00:08:57,170 --> 00:09:03,476 CERTAINLY NO ONE, NONE OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ENVISIONED TEXT 166 00:09:03,476 --> 00:09:05,812 MESSAGING AS A FORM OF COMMUNICATION. 167 00:09:05,812 --> 00:09:08,114 YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 168 00:09:08,114 --> 00:09:13,486 EVEN JUSTICE SCALIA WOULD TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR HEAD. 169 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:17,057 NOBODY IS SUGGESTING THAT YOU DON'T. 170 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:20,193 BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND UNDERSTAND THAT AT 171 00:09:20,193 --> 00:09:23,563 THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING POLICY, THAT 172 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:26,833 ROLE IS THE ROLE OF THE LEGISLATURE IS CRITICAL AND THE 173 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:30,503 COURTS SHOULD NOT BE THE ONES THAT SET THE POLICY FOR THE 174 00:09:30,503 --> 00:09:32,238 STATE. 175 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:36,343 >> SO MRS. BRODY, THIS QUESTION IS FOR BOTH OF YOU, IF YOU WERE 176 00:09:36,343 --> 00:09:40,613 ON THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT IN 1980, TWO YEARS PRIOR TO VOTERS 177 00:09:40,613 --> 00:09:44,684 REMOVING THAT CLAWS FROM THE IDAHO CONSTITUTION THAT FORBADE 178 00:09:44,684 --> 00:09:48,355 MORMONS FROM VOTING WOULD YOU THINK IT YOUR DUTY TO ENFORCE 179 00:09:48,355 --> 00:09:53,693 THAT BAN ON ITSENS WHO WERE OF THE MORMON FAITH FROM VOTING? 180 00:09:53,693 --> 00:09:57,063 >> WE LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE PRECEDENT, COURT DECISIONS MADE 181 00:09:57,063 --> 00:10:02,335 BEFORE THEN, AT THE TEXT, ALL OF THE TOOLS THAT JUDGES HAVE IN 182 00:10:02,335 --> 00:10:03,870 ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS. 183 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:06,906 I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD DO THEN OR EVEN NOW IF THE ISSUE 184 00:10:06,906 --> 00:10:12,746 WERE TO COME UP BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY TELL PEOPLE THE POSITIONS 185 00:10:12,746 --> 00:10:14,881 THAT WE WOULD TAKE ON GIVEN ISSUES. 186 00:10:14,881 --> 00:10:20,286 BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO -- JUDGES HAVE LOTS OF 187 00:10:20,286 --> 00:10:22,355 TOOLS AVAILABLE, PRECEDENT AND TEXT. 188 00:10:22,355 --> 00:10:24,557 WHAT'S THERE IN PLAQUE AND WHITE. 189 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:27,293 AND THEY HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AS WELL. 190 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:30,830 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, SAME QUESTION. 191 00:10:30,830 --> 00:10:36,736 >> IT'S LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE, THE DUE PROCESS CLAWS OF THE 192 00:10:36,736 --> 00:10:41,307 14th AMENDMENT PROTECTS THOSE TYPES OF RIGHTS THAT WERE 193 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:45,311 TRADITIONALLY RECOGNIZED AT THE TIME IT WAS RATIFIED. 194 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:52,686 APPLYING IT TO THIS ISSUE ALONG WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT FOR 195 00:10:52,686 --> 00:10:56,856 PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO VOTE AS WELL AS TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION OF 196 00:10:56,856 --> 00:11:00,326 CHOICE, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS LIKELY THE COURT WOULD HAVE 197 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:05,432 LOOKED AT THAT ISSUE UNDER THE 14th AND 1st AMENDMENTS OF 198 00:11:05,432 --> 00:11:08,068 THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS A 199 00:11:08,068 --> 00:11:12,005 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE HAD AT THE TIME. 200 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:17,744 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, YOU MENTIONED ROE VERSUS WADE THAT 201 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:20,647 DEVIATED FROM YOUR JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY. 202 00:11:20,647 --> 00:11:24,818 YOU HAVE AN ENDORSEMENT FROM IDAHO RIGHTS. 203 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:27,654 WHERE WOULD YOU DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN UPHOLDING YOUR PERSONAL 204 00:11:27,654 --> 00:11:31,024 BELIEFS AND FOLLOWING THE LEGAL OBLIGATION TO UPHOLD CASE LAW AS 205 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,192 IT'S BEEN SET BY THE U.S. 206 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:34,027 SUPREME COURT? 207 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:36,730 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 208 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:40,667 IT'S A JOB OF A JUSTICE TO APPLY THE LAW. 209 00:11:40,667 --> 00:11:44,738 UNDER OUR SYSTEM OF FEDERALISM THAT INCLUDES THE DECISIONS OF 210 00:11:44,738 --> 00:11:47,540 THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. 211 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:51,044 I'M PROUD OF THE ENDORSEMENT, PROUD OF THE BILLS I HAVE WORKED 212 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:52,746 ON AS A STATE LEGISLATOR. 213 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:58,051 BUT I'M ALSO BOUND BY WHAT COMES OUT OF THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. 214 00:11:58,051 --> 00:12:04,057 SINCE THE 1960s, UNDER THE DUE PROCESS CLAWS THAT I MENTIONED, 215 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:08,895 UNDER SUBSTANTIVE DUE PROCESS THE COURT HAS EXPANDED RIGHTS 216 00:12:08,895 --> 00:12:11,264 BEYOND ENUMERATED IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS. 217 00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:16,002 THEY HAVE DONE SO IN A NUMBER OF CASES AND WE ARE BOUNDS BY THOSE 218 00:12:16,002 --> 00:12:17,804 DECISIONS REGARDLESS OF OUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE. 219 00:12:17,804 --> 00:12:23,176 I THINK IT'S THE ROLE OF A JUSTICE TO APPLY THE LAW 220 00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:25,712 IMPARTIALLY WITHOUT PERSONAL BIAS. 221 00:12:25,712 --> 00:12:30,016 >> MRS. BRODY, I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU INTERPRET THIS SPECIFICALLY 222 00:12:30,016 --> 00:12:33,086 IN INSTANCES WHERE FEDERAL PRECEDENT CONFLICTS WITH THE 223 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:33,820 STATE CONSTITUTION. 224 00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:38,558 >> WELL, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT'S COMING 225 00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:39,459 BEFORE THE COURT. 226 00:12:39,459 --> 00:12:42,629 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS VERY INTERESTING ABOUT IDAHO LAW IS 227 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:46,566 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IDAHO CONSTITUTION WE HAVE 228 00:12:46,566 --> 00:12:50,470 CONSTITUTIONAL LANGUAGE THAT IN MANY ARENAS MAY ACTUALLY PROVIDE 229 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:54,641 GREATER RIGHTS TO LITIGANTS THAN MAYBE THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION. 230 00:12:54,641 --> 00:12:58,712 THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF IDAHO CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE MORE 231 00:12:58,712 --> 00:13:02,582 PROTECTIONS TO THE CITIZENS OF IDAHO THAN THE FEDERAL 232 00:13:02,582 --> 00:13:02,949 CONSTITUTION. 233 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:05,685 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL LAW 234 00:13:05,685 --> 00:13:09,422 AND THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION, THAT'S WHAT MY OPENING STATEMENT 235 00:13:09,422 --> 00:13:10,423 WAS ALL ABOUT. 236 00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:13,626 PEOPLE THINK THAT THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT CAN CHANGE OR HAVE 237 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:16,696 THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY CAN CHANGE THE DECISIONS THAT THE 238 00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:19,232 SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES MAKES. 239 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:20,734 THAT'S WHAT WE CAN'T DO. 240 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:23,803 BUT WE CAN INTERPRET OUR OWN CONSTITUTION. 241 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:27,073 >> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 242 00:13:27,073 --> 00:13:29,876 >> MRS. BRODY, SPEAKING OF INTERPRETING OUR OWN 243 00:13:29,876 --> 00:13:32,278 CONSTITUTION THAT IS OF COURSE EXACTLY WHAT THE IDAHO SUPREME 244 00:13:32,278 --> 00:13:34,014 COURT DOES. 245 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:37,450 GOVERNOR OTTER HAS SAID RECENTLY THAT THE CURRENT EDUCATION 246 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:42,188 SYSTEM IN IDAHO IS PROBABLY NOT UP TO CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER. 247 00:13:42,188 --> 00:13:47,460 THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT RULED IN 2005 THAT THE FUNDING SYSTEM WAS 248 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:51,297 NOT SUFFICIENT TO CARRY OUT THE DUTY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. 249 00:13:51,297 --> 00:13:54,634 THE LEGISLATURE IS REEVALUATING THE FUNDING SYSTEM AS WE SPEAK 250 00:13:54,634 --> 00:13:59,606 BUT IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN TEN YEARS AND THE COURT HAS 251 00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:04,678 PERMITTED DESPITE ITS RULING AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM TO 252 00:14:04,678 --> 00:14:04,944 PERSIST. 253 00:14:04,944 --> 00:14:08,348 SHOULD THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT HAVE BEEN MORE ACTIVE IN 254 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:13,887 PROTECTING THE CONSTITUTION LIKE THE WASHINGTON SUPREME COURT DID 255 00:14:13,887 --> 00:14:18,158 IN A SIMILAR CASE OR ARE THERE PARTS THAT THE COURT CAN'T OR 256 00:14:18,158 --> 00:14:19,092 SHOULDN'T ENFORCE? 257 00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:23,897 >> AS A MOM, EDUCATION IS SOMETHING THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO 258 00:14:23,897 --> 00:14:25,865 MY HEART. 259 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:29,269 THAT'S SOMETHING ALL OF US ARE STRUGGLING WITH IN IDAHO. 260 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:32,972 THE REALTY IS THAT THE LITIGATION OVER THE IDAHO SCHOOL 261 00:14:32,972 --> 00:14:36,076 SYSTEM HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE 1970s. 262 00:14:36,076 --> 00:14:38,645 IT'S BEEN GOING ON THAT LONG. 263 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:44,250 AND I CAN'T TELL YOU, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY 264 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:48,888 THE SUPREME COURT IN 2005 WHEN IT RETAINED JURISDICTION OVER 265 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:52,892 THE EDUCATIONAL FUNDING CASE WHY IT SUDDENLY REVERSED ITSELF AND 266 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,562 MADE THE DECISION TO STOP THE LITIGATION. 267 00:14:55,562 --> 00:14:58,965 OF COURSE WE KNOW SINCE THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER EFFORT WHERE 268 00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:01,968 THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES THEMSELVES WERE ACTUALLY SUED IN 269 00:15:01,968 --> 00:15:05,872 FEDERAL COURT OVER THE ENTIRE THING. 270 00:15:05,872 --> 00:15:08,208 IT'S AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT ISSUE. 271 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:12,979 THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN 272 00:15:12,979 --> 00:15:16,783 OTHER LEGISLATURES OR IN OTHER STATES AND COURTS OVER THIS BUT 273 00:15:16,783 --> 00:15:19,052 AT THE END OF THE DAY IT COMES DOWN TO THIS. 274 00:15:19,052 --> 00:15:25,992 COURTS HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME PROVIDING REMEDIES WHEN 275 00:15:25,992 --> 00:15:30,430 EITHER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OR THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH DOESN'T 276 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:30,697 LISTEN. 277 00:15:30,697 --> 00:15:36,436 I GO BACK TO THE DAYS OF ANDREW JACKSON WHEN THERE WAS A SUPREME 278 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:40,907 COURT DECISION THAT IN WHICH THEY FOUND HE WAS VIOLATING THE 279 00:15:40,907 --> 00:15:44,711 CONSTITUTION BY A PARTICULAR LAW THAT REQUIRED SETTLERS TO LEAVE 280 00:15:44,711 --> 00:15:48,348 INDIAN TERRITORY AND HIS COMMENT WAS, WELL, JUSTICE MARSHALL, 281 00:15:48,348 --> 00:15:49,516 YOU'VE MADE YOUR DECISION. 282 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:51,017 NOW ENFORCE IT. 283 00:15:51,017 --> 00:15:52,085 AND THE POINT IS THIS. 284 00:15:52,085 --> 00:15:56,623 AT THE END OF THE DAY THE COURTS DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET. 285 00:15:56,623 --> 00:16:01,661 THEY DON'T CONTROL THE DECISION MAKING AT THE TOP. 286 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:03,763 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, SAME QUESTION. 287 00:16:03,763 --> 00:16:07,133 WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF HOW THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT HANDLED THAT 288 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:11,304 SCHOOL FUNDING CASE AND WHETHER WE ARE ALLOWING A SCHOOL FUNDING 289 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:14,040 SYSTEM TO OPERATE IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS 290 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,412 OF OUR STATE CONSTITUTION? 291 00:16:19,412 --> 00:16:23,416 >> UNDER ARTICLE 9 IT'S A GENERAL, THOROUGH UNIFORM? 292 00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:25,151 OF SCHOOLING. 293 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:30,490 THERE'S A LONG LINE OF CASE LAW ADDRESSING WHETHER WE ARE DOING 294 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:35,895 THAT, AND I ASSUME THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE OVER TIME. 295 00:16:35,895 --> 00:16:41,534 I SERVED THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ECONOMIC REGION WITH A SENATOR 296 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:44,704 PROSECUTE WASHINGTON WHO WORKS ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE THERE. 297 00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:49,109 THE STATE SUPREME COURT THERE I BELIEVE HAD FINED THE 298 00:16:49,109 --> 00:16:52,445 LEGISLATURE UNTIL THEY COMPLIED WITH WHAT THEY THOUGHT WERE 299 00:16:52,445 --> 00:16:54,981 THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTIES. 300 00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:58,118 AND SO THE BODY THAT ACTUAL LIL' SETS THE BUDGET THEN PROPOSE 301 00:16:58,118 --> 00:17:04,057 RATES THE MONEY BOTH FOR THE OTHER BRANCH AND FOR ANY FINE 302 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:05,759 WAS ORDERED TO PAY A FINE. 303 00:17:05,759 --> 00:17:08,962 I DON'T THINK IT REALLY CHANGED ANYTHING THERE. 304 00:17:08,962 --> 00:17:16,469 BUT IT IS THE DUTY OF THE COURT TO APPLY THAT CONSTITUTIONAL 305 00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:19,773 STANDARD TO OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM. 306 00:17:19,773 --> 00:17:22,709 AND WHILE I HAVE BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE, WE HAVE WORKED ON 307 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:24,611 THAT ISSUE. 308 00:17:24,611 --> 00:17:28,682 MY FIRST TERM THERE, WHICH WAS THE LONGEST IN STATE HISTORY, WE 309 00:17:28,682 --> 00:17:34,254 PUT IN PLACE PUBLIC EDUCATION STABILIZATION FUND TO HELP 310 00:17:34,254 --> 00:17:39,626 ADDRESS THOSE SITUATIONS WHEN THE ECONOMY REALLY TANKS AGAIN 311 00:17:39,626 --> 00:17:42,162 AND TO HAVE THAT FUNDING THERE. 312 00:17:42,162 --> 00:17:44,264 THAT WAS A PART OF A SOLUTION. 313 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:50,270 WE WORKED ON SETTING ASIDE MAINTENANCE FUNDS FOR OUR SCHOOL 314 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:50,704 BUILDINGS. 315 00:17:50,704 --> 00:17:56,076 I BELIEVE SINCE WE DID THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS 316 00:17:56,076 --> 00:18:00,113 DISCRETION TO TO USE THOSE FUNDS IN OTHER WAYS BECAUSE THEY 317 00:18:00,113 --> 00:18:04,317 NEEDED TO BE ABLE TOLL DO IT, BUT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE 318 00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:07,921 COURT AND THEIR ROLE WITH RESPECT TO THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT 319 00:18:07,921 --> 00:18:11,658 WHETHER A MEETING THAT CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD, IT'S 320 00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:15,595 THE ROLE OF COURTS TO EVALUATE THAT IN SPECIFIC SITUATIONS THAT 321 00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:21,134 ARE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT AND I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL SEE 322 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:24,504 THOSE AGAIN AND TO MAKE A DECLARATION OF THE CONSTITUTION 323 00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:30,076 WHETHER WE'RE COMPLYING WITH IT OR NOT. 324 00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:32,779 BEYOND THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN COMMENT ON WHAT A FUTURE 325 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:36,516 COURT WOULD DO WITH RESPECT TO A SITUATION WHERE IT DIDN'T THINK 326 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:37,684 IT WAS COMPLYING. 327 00:18:37,684 --> 00:18:40,353 I DO THINK THAT'S GOING TO COME UP. 328 00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:47,794 >> I HAVE A QUESTION MOVING ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC FOR MRS. BRODY. 329 00:18:47,794 --> 00:18:51,798 YOU IN RECENT YEARS HAVE LITIGATED SOME PRETTY 330 00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:54,701 CONTENTIOUS ISSUES INVOLVING WATER LAW AND WATER RIGHTS 331 00:18:54,701 --> 00:18:55,802 BEFORE THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT. 332 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:58,738 IN SOME CASES THE SUPREME COURT RULED AGAINST YOUR CLIENT. 333 00:18:58,738 --> 00:19:01,307 AS A JUSTICE OF THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT DO YOU THINK YOU 334 00:19:01,307 --> 00:19:05,311 WOULD BE BOUND BY THE PRIOR DECISIONS EVEN IF YOU THOUGHT 335 00:19:05,311 --> 00:19:09,315 ONE OR MORE WAS INCORRECTLY DECIDED? 336 00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:14,054 WOULD YOU SEEK TO REVERSE OR OVERRULE THE DECISIONS OR RECUSE 337 00:19:14,054 --> 00:19:16,322 YOURSELF FROM WATER ISSUES ALL TOGETHER? 338 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:20,026 >> I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE ISSUE THAT IS COMING BEFORE 339 00:19:20,026 --> 00:19:26,399 THE COURT. 340 00:19:26,399 --> 00:19:30,236 THERE'S NOTION QUITE LIKE WATER IN IDAHO TO GET PEOPLE'S 341 00:19:30,236 --> 00:19:31,137 PASSIONS GOING. 342 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:32,772 THOSE ARE COMPLICATED DECISIONS. 343 00:19:32,772 --> 00:19:36,242 SOME OF THOSE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY APPLICATION TO ANY LITIGANT IN 344 00:19:36,242 --> 00:19:41,081 THE UNIVERSE OTHER THAN MY CLIENT T. SOME OF THE DECISIONS 345 00:19:41,081 --> 00:19:47,420 RELATED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AQUIFER MODEL BEING USED FOR 346 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,155 DELIVERY CALLS IN SOUTHERN IDAHO. 347 00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:53,893 I SUPPOSE IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME UP THAT DEALT WITH THE 348 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:57,797 VALIDITY OF THAT MODEL AND MAYBE IF I HAD INFORMATION THAT MIGHT 349 00:19:57,797 --> 00:20:00,967 BEAR DIRECTLY ON THE ISSUE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE 350 00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:04,804 TO LOOK AT CAREFULLY BUT IF ONE OF THOSE THINGS IN TERMS OF 351 00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:07,974 CONFLICTS EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT A CASE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE 352 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:13,546 PARTIES, THE ATTORNEYS, THE ISSUES AND MAKE A CASE-BY-CASE 353 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:16,750 DECISION AS TO WHETHER WE CAN ACTUALLY SIT. 354 00:20:16,750 --> 00:20:20,887 >> IN TAKING A STEP BACK IN THE QUESTION FOR BOTH OF YOU, I'M 355 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:24,524 CURIOUS, YOU BOTH HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH WATER ISSUES. 356 00:20:24,524 --> 00:20:31,131 MRS. BRODY, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE SUPREME COURT AND SHOULD THE 357 00:20:31,131 --> 00:20:34,834 IDAHO SUPREME COURT GIVE DEFERENCE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF 358 00:20:34,834 --> 00:20:37,837 WATER RESOURCES BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE CONTAINED 359 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:38,638 WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT? 360 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:41,641 >> WELL, THE NUMBER ONE JOB OF THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT WHEN IT 361 00:20:41,641 --> 00:20:45,412 COMES TO WATER IS TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION. 362 00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:45,745 PERIOD. 363 00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:50,750 THEN YOU LOOK AT THE IDAHO LEGISLATIVE LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN 364 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:51,017 PASSED. 365 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:58,692 IN TERMS OF AGENCY DEFERENCE, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY TURNS -- THE 366 00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:01,628 IDAHO SUPREME COURT'S ABILITY TO REVIEW WHAT AN AGENCY DOES 367 00:21:01,628 --> 00:21:05,331 WHETHER IT BE THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES OR ANY AGENCY, 368 00:21:05,331 --> 00:21:07,901 IT DOESN'T MATTER TTURNS ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 369 00:21:07,901 --> 00:21:12,105 IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FACTUAL ISSUES, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 370 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:17,243 PLACES WHERE THE DEPARTMENT HAS PARTICULAR EXPERTISE AND YOU'RE 371 00:21:17,243 --> 00:21:21,181 TALKING ABOUT FACT SPECIFIC TYPES OF ISSUES, VERY HARD FOR 372 00:21:21,181 --> 00:21:28,021 THE SUPREME COURT TO STEP IN AND TO JUDGE OR REEVALUATE THOSE 373 00:21:28,021 --> 00:21:32,625 FACTS, TO SECOND GUESS IF YOU WILL THE LEGISLATIVE AGENCY 374 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,361 EXCUSE ME THE EXECUTIVE AGENCY. 375 00:21:34,361 --> 00:21:36,930 IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAW, ON THE OTHER HAND, THAT'S A 376 00:21:36,930 --> 00:21:37,997 WHOLE DIFFERENT MATTER. 377 00:21:37,997 --> 00:21:41,835 THAT'S AN AREA WHERE THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT CAN USE ITS POWERS 378 00:21:41,835 --> 00:21:43,103 TO REVIEW WHAT'S HAPPENING. 379 00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:45,205 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, SAME QUESTION. 380 00:21:45,205 --> 00:21:52,379 SHOULD THE SUPREME COURT GIVE DEFERENCE TO DECISIONS FROM 381 00:21:52,379 --> 00:21:52,579 IBWR? 382 00:21:52,579 --> 00:21:56,583 >> I BELIEVE THE COURT'S ROLE IS FUNDAMENTALLY TO PROTECT THOSE 383 00:21:56,583 --> 00:22:00,987 RIGHTS AS THEY ARE EXPRESSED IN OUR STATE CONSTITUTION. 384 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:06,860 WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT DEFERRING TO THE AGENCY IN THIS 385 00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:13,099 REGARD OR OTHERS BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THE FEDERAL MODEL WHERE THE 386 00:22:13,099 --> 00:22:15,635 LEGISLATURE, CONGRESS HAS DEFERRED BROAD RULEMAKING 387 00:22:15,635 --> 00:22:22,642 AUTHORITY TO AGENCIES AND THEN COURTS HAVE DEFERRED TO THEIR 388 00:22:22,642 --> 00:22:26,012 EXPERTISE ALLOWING MUCH OF THAT POLICY MAKING AUTHORITY THAT HAD 389 00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:30,250 BEEN EXERCISED BY CONGRESS TO NOW BE EXERCISED BY AGENCIES. 390 00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:35,655 IN THIS REGARD, IN WATER ISSUES, I WOULD SAY IDAHO IS AHEAD OF 391 00:22:35,655 --> 00:22:38,558 MOST OF THE WEST IN HOW WE DEAL WITH WATER. 392 00:22:38,558 --> 00:22:42,262 BUT WE DO HAVE A FUNDAMENTALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE WHICH IS HAS 393 00:22:42,262 --> 00:22:48,835 SNAKE RIVER AQUIFER, THE DECLINE OF THAT AQUIFER AND HISTORIC 394 00:22:48,835 --> 00:22:52,672 AGREEMENT THAT WAS ENTERED THIS SPRING BETWEEN THE GROUND WATER 395 00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:57,944 USERS AND THE SURFACE WATER COALITION, AND I BELIEVE THAT 396 00:22:57,944 --> 00:23:01,981 PARTS OF THAT AGREEMENT THAT ARE SET TO BE IMPLEMENTED OVER A 397 00:23:01,981 --> 00:23:06,252 NUMBER OF YEARS COULD VERY WELL WORK THEIR WAY UP TO THE COURT. 398 00:23:06,252 --> 00:23:12,058 I WOULD SEE MY ROLE WITH RESPECT TO THAT OR OTHER WATER ISSUES TO 399 00:23:12,058 --> 00:23:18,698 APPLY THE LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN AND ALLOW THAT WITHIN THE 400 00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:21,167 CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK TO DEFINE WHAT THOSE RIGHTS ARE. 401 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:25,538 >> NEXT QUESTION. 402 00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:28,508 >> SENATOR, IF YOU HAVE NEVER ARGUED A INDICATE BEFORE THE 403 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:31,611 IDAHO SUPREME COURT OR COURT OF APPEALS, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU'RE 404 00:23:31,611 --> 00:23:35,248 READY TO SIT ON THE HIGHEST BENCH IF YOU HAVE NEVER STOOD IN 405 00:23:35,248 --> 00:23:36,182 FRONT OF IT? 406 00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:38,451 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 407 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:43,556 MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF OUR DISTRICT JUDGES OR OUR 408 00:23:43,556 --> 00:23:45,358 MAGISTRATES. 409 00:23:45,358 --> 00:23:47,460 THOSE ARE THE COURTS THAT MOST PEOPLE SEE. 410 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:51,564 THEY ARE MOST FAMILIAR WITH THOSE COURTS OR SPECIALTY COURTS 411 00:23:51,564 --> 00:23:54,734 LIKE VETERANS COURT, MENTAL HEALTH COURT, DRUG COURT WHERE I 412 00:23:54,734 --> 00:23:57,037 HAVE SPENT HOURS IN FRONT OF THEM. 413 00:23:57,037 --> 00:24:06,146 AS AN ATTORNEY, I HAVE FILED APPELLATE BRIEFS WHEN I WAS IN 414 00:24:06,146 --> 00:24:06,513 WASHINGTON D.C. 415 00:24:06,513 --> 00:24:13,420 WE HAD SOME APPELLATE WORK AT STOLL REEFS. 416 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:18,358 THE ANALYSIS I DID ON THOSE CASES, THE COMPLEX LITIGATION, 417 00:24:18,358 --> 00:24:21,161 EXTENSIVE BRIEF WRITING THAT WE DID IS ALL IMPORTANT BACKGROUND 418 00:24:21,161 --> 00:24:23,730 FOR SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO BE ON THE COURT. 419 00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:28,601 BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A JUSTICE WITH 420 00:24:28,601 --> 00:24:31,871 EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY PRACTICING IN FRONT OF THOSE 421 00:24:31,871 --> 00:24:35,875 DISTRICT JUDGES AND MAGISTRATE JUDGES WHO ARE THE ONES MOST 422 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,645 PEOPLE WILL BE IN FRONT OF. 423 00:24:38,645 --> 00:24:42,716 >> MRS. BRODY, YOU HAVE ARGUED BEFORE THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT 424 00:24:42,716 --> 00:24:47,020 BUT NEARLY ALL YOUR EXPERIENCE APPEARS TO BE IN CIVIL CASES. 425 00:24:47,020 --> 00:24:54,194 DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE PART OF THE TEAM LEADING IDAHO'S 426 00:24:54,194 --> 00:24:55,128 COURT? 427 00:24:55,128 --> 00:24:58,832 >> THE PERSPECTIVE I BRING TO THE COURT, I LOOK AT THIS JOB AS 428 00:24:58,832 --> 00:25:00,600 BEING PART OF THE TEAM. 429 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,304 YOU'RE NOT ALONE MAKING DECISIONS. 430 00:25:04,304 --> 00:25:07,674 YOU'RE WORKING WITH FOUR OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE THE BEST POLICY 431 00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:08,608 DECISIONS POSSIBLE. 432 00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:11,511 IT'S TRUE I'M NOT A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY BY ANY STRETCH 433 00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:17,217 BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY 434 00:25:17,217 --> 00:25:20,086 WORKING WITHIN THAT SYSTEM AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE 435 00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:22,789 BEEN THE VICTIMS OF CRIME. 436 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:27,327 I THINK THAT THAT'S A PERSPECTIVE THAT IS VALUABLE AND 437 00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:30,330 IMPORTANT AND DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW. 438 00:25:30,330 --> 00:25:40,273 SPEAKING OF THE THREE JUDGES THERE NOW, ALL INCREDIBLY 439 00:25:40,273 --> 00:25:42,375 EXPERIENCED DISTRICT COURT JUDGES WHO COME WITH TONS OF 440 00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:46,079 BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE IN THE CRIMINAL MATTERS BUT TO HAVE A 441 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:49,349 DIFFERENT VOICE, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THAT'S 442 00:25:49,349 --> 00:25:52,886 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. 443 00:25:52,886 --> 00:25:59,325 >> MRS. BRODY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF SENATOR McKENZIE'S ARGUMENT 444 00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:03,029 THAT HE HAS PRACTICALLED BEFORE STATE AND DISTRICT JUDGES AND 445 00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:05,198 THAT'S SUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE TO GO BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT OR 446 00:26:05,198 --> 00:26:08,868 COURT OF APPEALS? 447 00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:14,341 >> YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TRAVELED A LOT TOGETHER OVER THE PAST SEVEN 448 00:26:14,341 --> 00:26:16,710 MONTHS AND WE HAVE LISTENED TO EACH OTHER TALK. 449 00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:19,879 WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO HOW WE INTERPRET A STATUTE OR HOW WE 450 00:26:19,879 --> 00:26:23,516 MIGHT APPROACH A CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW THAT 451 00:26:23,516 --> 00:26:25,785 MR. McKENZIE AND I REALLY DIFFER IN THAT REGARD. 452 00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:30,890 THE THINGS THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE 453 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:33,326 BRED INTO US IN LAW SCHOOL. 454 00:26:33,326 --> 00:26:35,729 THAT'S THE WAY WE APPROACH LEGAL QUESTIONS TODAY. 455 00:26:35,729 --> 00:26:40,967 WE ASK WHAT DOES A STATUTE SAY, NOT WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO SAY. 456 00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:44,437 BUT I'LL TELL YOU RT THING THAT MAKES ME DIFFERENT FROM 457 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:44,804 MR. McKENZIE. 458 00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:49,542 THAT'S 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LITIGATING IN FRONT OF COUNTY 459 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:52,512 COMMISSIONS, PLANNING AND ZONING, MAGISTRATE COURT, 460 00:26:52,512 --> 00:26:55,448 DISTRICT COURT, THE SUPREME COURT, NINE TIMES. 461 00:26:55,448 --> 00:26:59,853 TALKING ABOUT GETTING AN INCREDIBLY BROAD AND DEEP 462 00:26:59,853 --> 00:27:02,589 PERSPECTIVE ON THE LEGAL ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE PEOPLE OF THE 463 00:27:02,589 --> 00:27:03,490 STATE OF IDAHO. 464 00:27:03,490 --> 00:27:07,327 I'M TALKING ABOUT TAKING 20 YEARS OF BEING IN THE TRENCHES. 465 00:27:07,327 --> 00:27:10,230 I HAVE HAD ONE JOB MY WHOLE CAREER. 466 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:14,834 THAT'S TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS IN THE COURTS AND 467 00:27:14,834 --> 00:27:19,506 TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE LAW IS, WHAT THE POLICIES ARE, MAKING 468 00:27:19,506 --> 00:27:20,240 EXCELLENT DECISIONS. 469 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,678 I THINK THAT VOICE, THAT EXPERIENCE IS INCREDIBLY 470 00:27:24,678 --> 00:27:27,681 IMPORTANT AND THE FACT THAT MR. McKENZIE HAS NEVER STOOD 471 00:27:27,681 --> 00:27:30,250 IN FRONT OF THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT IS SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS 472 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:32,719 ME GREATLY. 473 00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:36,589 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, WHY HAVEN'T YOU ARGUED A INDICATE 474 00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:38,792 BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT OR COURT OF APPEALS PRIOR TO 475 00:27:38,792 --> 00:27:40,727 SEEKING A SEAT ON THAT BENCH? 476 00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:48,268 >> MY PRACTICE HAS JUST BEEN IN EITHER FEDERAL COURT, AT STOLL 477 00:27:48,268 --> 00:27:53,239 REEFS OR OUT OF STATE COURTS REPRESENTING A COMPANY BASED IN 478 00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:55,275 IDAHO THAT HAD BUSINESS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 479 00:27:55,275 --> 00:28:01,848 THEN MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE IN PRACTICE AT MY OWN FIRM HAS BEEN 480 00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:03,483 AT THE TRIAL LEVEL. 481 00:28:03,483 --> 00:28:06,119 SO I HAVE THAT EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE. 482 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,755 I THINK IT'S A USEFUL EXPERIENCE. 483 00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:13,960 BUT I WOULD SAY WHAT I LOOK FOR IN A JUSTICE, IT'S NOT SIMPLY 484 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,764 THAT YOU HAVE ARGUED A FEW CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT, BUT 485 00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:23,236 THAT FUNDAMENTAL JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY THAT INFORMS ALL YOUR 486 00:28:23,236 --> 00:28:25,238 CASES WHETHER IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE OR STATUTE 487 00:28:25,238 --> 00:28:29,609 OR AGREEMENT THAT YOU WILL APPLY THE TEXT AS WRITTEN AND I WOULD 488 00:28:29,609 --> 00:28:31,244 DO THAT. 489 00:28:31,244 --> 00:28:38,251 I WOULD ALSO SAY MY ACADEMIC BACKGROUND AT GEORGETOWN 490 00:28:38,251 --> 00:28:41,855 UNIVERSITY, ATTENDED ON A FULL TUITION SCHOLARSHIP ON A YEAR 491 00:28:41,855 --> 00:28:44,891 THEY HAD MORE APPLICANTS THAN ANY LAW SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY 492 00:28:44,891 --> 00:28:45,959 HAS EVER HAD. 493 00:28:45,959 --> 00:28:50,263 GRADUATED IN THE TOP 10% OF MY CLASS THERE AS A STRONG 494 00:28:50,263 --> 00:28:50,597 BACKGROUND. 495 00:28:50,597 --> 00:28:52,098 I UNDERSTAND THE LAW. 496 00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:56,903 I CAN APPLY IT AND SERVE IDAHO WELL ON ITS COURT. 497 00:28:56,903 --> 00:29:00,373 >> THE NEXT QUESTION ON PRO BONO. 498 00:29:00,373 --> 00:29:04,944 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, THIS IS PRO BONO WEEK. 499 00:29:04,944 --> 00:29:08,281 IDAHO REESE RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT SAY LAWYERS 500 00:29:08,281 --> 00:29:13,019 SHOULD ASPIRE TO PERFORM AT LEAST 50 HOURS OF PRO BONO WORK 501 00:29:13,019 --> 00:29:18,291 A YEAR AND BOTH OF YOU MAINTAIN YOU HAVE DONE MORE THAN THAT YET 502 00:29:18,291 --> 00:29:22,195 NEITHER OF YOU HAVE RECORDED THAT TO THE IDAHO LAWYERS 503 00:29:22,195 --> 00:29:22,662 PROGRAM. 504 00:29:22,662 --> 00:29:25,498 IF ELECTED TO THE HIGH COURT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THE 505 00:29:25,498 --> 00:29:28,501 STATE IS WORKING TO MEET THE LEGAL NEEDS OF LOW INCOME 506 00:29:28,501 --> 00:29:28,768 CLIENTS. 507 00:29:28,768 --> 00:29:32,772 DO YOU THINK THAT IDAHO'S PRO BONO TRACKING AND REPORTING 508 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:36,242 SYSTEMS NEED TO BE MORE ROBUST SO WE CAN ALL GET A BETTER 509 00:29:36,242 --> 00:29:42,515 UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEED FOR REDUCED FEE LEGAL WORK OR WOULD 510 00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:46,619 A REPORTING REQUIREMENT JUST BE TOO OPPRESSIVE? 511 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:47,787 >> THANK YOU. 512 00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:51,725 I WOULDN'T ADD TO THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF THE ATTORNEYS 513 00:29:51,725 --> 00:29:53,960 BECAUSE PRACTICES DIFFER SO MUCH. 514 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,332 FROM WHEN I WAS AT STOLL REEF, A LAW FIRM OF HUNDREDS OF 515 00:29:59,332 --> 00:30:03,103 ATTORNEYS TO HAVING A SOLO PRACTICE, REPRESENTING 516 00:30:03,103 --> 00:30:05,438 INDIVIDUALS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, THEY ARE VERY 517 00:30:05,438 --> 00:30:07,374 DIFFERENT PRACTICES. 518 00:30:07,374 --> 00:30:12,979 SOME ATTORNEYS LIKE ME SERVE OTHER CAPACITIES. 519 00:30:12,979 --> 00:30:16,750 I'M IN THE LEGISLATURE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR 520 00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:20,186 DEPENDING IF WE CAN SET A BUDGET OR NOT. 521 00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,388 INTERIM COMMITTEES. 522 00:30:21,388 --> 00:30:24,891 ATTORNEYS HAVE OBLIGATIONS AND MANY OF THOSE ARE IN PUBLIC 523 00:30:24,891 --> 00:30:28,762 SERVICE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY PRO BONO. 524 00:30:28,762 --> 00:30:35,035 I WOULDN'T REQUIRE ATTORNEYS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL REPORTING 525 00:30:35,035 --> 00:30:38,571 REQUIREMENTS BUT I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT IT THAT WE CONTINUE 526 00:30:38,571 --> 00:30:41,841 TO EMPHASIZE ACCESS TO THE COURTS AND WITH PRO BONO WORK AS 527 00:30:41,841 --> 00:30:43,209 PART OF THAT. 528 00:30:43,209 --> 00:30:44,678 >> MRS. BRODY, SAME QUESTION. 529 00:30:44,678 --> 00:30:47,213 >> YOU KNOW, I LEARNED SOMETHING. 530 00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:49,949 I LEARNED SOMETHING IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AND THAT IS I DIDN'T 531 00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:53,019 REALIZE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REPORTING HOURS TO THE NORTH 532 00:30:53,019 --> 00:30:55,555 IDAHO BAR OR THE VOLUNTEER LAWYERS PROGRAM. 533 00:30:55,555 --> 00:30:59,059 WHEN I PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROGRAM I REPORTED THE HOURS. 534 00:30:59,059 --> 00:31:02,095 BUT IN TERMS OF THE HOURS THAT I SPEND TAKING CARE OF MY 535 00:31:02,095 --> 00:31:05,165 NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, NO, I HAVE NEVER REPORTED THEM 536 00:31:05,165 --> 00:31:05,865 TO ANYONE. 537 00:31:05,865 --> 00:31:10,537 BUT I'LL TELL YOU, FOR ME WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS I TRAVELED AROUND 538 00:31:10,537 --> 00:31:13,707 THE STATE, I HAVE SEEN WHAT LAWYERS ARE DOING. 539 00:31:13,707 --> 00:31:17,877 WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING IN EVERY COMMUNITY PROVIDING SERVICES. 540 00:31:17,877 --> 00:31:22,816 WHEN I WAS UP IN BONNER'S FERRY THE IDAHO LEGAL AID WAS 541 00:31:22,816 --> 00:31:25,618 ADVERTISING A FREE DAY WHERE YOU COULD COME IN AND HAVE A TIME 542 00:31:25,618 --> 00:31:30,090 SET ASIDE TO MEET WITH AN ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS YOUR LEGAL 543 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:30,457 MATTERS. 544 00:31:30,457 --> 00:31:34,561 THE IDAHO TRIAL LAWYERS, IN BOISE, THEY PROVIDE THE STREET 545 00:31:34,561 --> 00:31:35,195 LAW CLINIC. 546 00:31:35,195 --> 00:31:37,831 THERE'S A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THAT IN TWIN FALLS. 547 00:31:37,831 --> 00:31:41,134 WHAT I SEE FROM TRAVELING AROUND IS THAT THE FIRST THING WE NEED 548 00:31:41,134 --> 00:31:45,038 TO DO IN THIS STATE IS GATHER UP ALL OF THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE, 549 00:31:45,038 --> 00:31:48,742 ALL OF THE PEOPLE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, GET THEM PUT IN 550 00:31:48,742 --> 00:31:52,746 ONE PLACE AND COORDINATED SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THEIR 551 00:31:52,746 --> 00:31:53,680 SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE. 552 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,685 WHAT I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO DO IS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WEBSITE, 553 00:31:58,685 --> 00:32:02,222 SOMETHING LIKE FREE LEGAL SERVICES FOR IDAHO, I DON'T KNOW 554 00:32:02,222 --> 00:32:05,792 THE NAME BUT THE POINT IS THIS, WHERE YOU CAN CATALOG THOSE 555 00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:06,860 SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 556 00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:10,597 WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THE FORMS, INTERACTIVE FORM SERVICES THAT 557 00:32:10,597 --> 00:32:14,434 THE IDAHO LEGAL AID SERVICES THAT AVAILABLE ON THEIR WEBSITE, 558 00:32:14,434 --> 00:32:15,702 PUT THEM ON THERE. 559 00:32:15,702 --> 00:32:18,104 THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT HAS FORMS AVAILABLE. 560 00:32:18,104 --> 00:32:20,740 LET'S MAKE THEM INTERACTIVE. 561 00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:22,809 PUT THEM ON A SINGLE WEBSITE. 562 00:32:22,809 --> 00:32:24,444 I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST COMMON SENSE. 563 00:32:24,444 --> 00:32:27,814 TALKING ABOUT GATHERING UP ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, 564 00:32:27,814 --> 00:32:31,117 PUTTING THEM IN ONE SPOT SO THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO 565 00:32:31,117 --> 00:32:33,086 CAN ACCESS THEM. 566 00:32:33,086 --> 00:32:36,189 >> NEXT QUESTION FROM REBECCA. 567 00:32:36,189 --> 00:32:40,360 >> MR. THE STATE BAR SURVEYED MEMBERS. 568 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,530 [AUDIO NOT UNDERSTANDABLE] THEY RATED THEM IN FOUR 569 00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:46,666 CATEGORIES INCLUDING INTEGRITY, KNOWLEDGE OF THE LAW, 570 00:32:46,666 --> 00:32:50,837 TEMPERAMENT AND LEGAL AABILITY ON A SCALE OF ONE TO FOUR, FOUR 571 00:32:50,837 --> 00:32:52,138 BEING THE HIGHEST. 572 00:32:52,138 --> 00:32:58,978 MRS. BRODY YOU AVERAGED 3.64, SENATOR McKENZIE AVERAGED A 573 00:32:58,978 --> 00:32:59,779 1.86. 574 00:32:59,779 --> 00:33:03,883 HOW MUCH WEIGHT SHOULD VOTERS GIVE THESE SCORES? 575 00:33:03,883 --> 00:33:06,486 >> IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT SCORES. 576 00:33:06,486 --> 00:33:10,490 PEOPLE ASK ME, WHEN I'M OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THE FIRST 577 00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:14,160 THING THEY ASK IS DO WE REALLY VOTE FOR OUR SUPREME COURT 578 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,494 JUSTICES? 579 00:33:14,494 --> 00:33:17,630 THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT MAKES A GOOD ONE? 580 00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:22,268 THAT'S SUCH A HARD THING FOR PEOPLE TO EVALUATE. 581 00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:24,004 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. 582 00:33:24,004 --> 00:33:28,708 AS MUCH AS WE ALL LOVE TO TELL A GOOD JOKE FROM TIME TO TIME, THE 583 00:33:28,708 --> 00:33:33,079 LAWYERS OF THIS STATE KNOW WHAT JUDGES DO, THEY KNOW WHAT IS 584 00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:36,182 IMPORTANT, THEY KNOW HOW TO EVALUATE IT AND THEY HAVE DONE 585 00:33:36,182 --> 00:33:37,283 THAT. 586 00:33:37,283 --> 00:33:38,718 THOSE SCORES MEAN SOMETHING. 587 00:33:38,718 --> 00:33:42,722 I HOPE IDAHO VOTERS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THEM. 588 00:33:42,722 --> 00:33:45,825 >> SENATOR McKENZIE? 589 00:33:45,825 --> 00:33:51,131 >> IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THAT LAWYERS TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS 590 00:33:51,131 --> 00:33:55,468 SOMEONE WHO SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE TRIAL LAWYERS ASSOCIATION 591 00:33:55,468 --> 00:33:59,406 OVER SOMEONE MO MOST OF THEM KNOW ONLY AS A CONSERVATIVE 592 00:33:59,406 --> 00:34:01,775 REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR. 593 00:34:01,775 --> 00:34:08,982 LAST YEAR A HARVARD LAW SCHOOL DID A SURVEY OF THE IDEOLOGY OF 594 00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:10,316 AMERICAN ATTORNEYS. 595 00:34:10,316 --> 00:34:13,319 THEY PUBLISHED IT LAST YEAR. 596 00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:17,090 WHAT THEY CALLED THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE OF THE 597 00:34:17,090 --> 00:34:20,093 IDEOLOGY OF AMERICAN LAWYERS EVER ASSEMBLED. 598 00:34:20,093 --> 00:34:22,362 HERE'S WHAT THEY FOUND. 599 00:34:22,362 --> 00:34:26,533 JUST QUOTING FROM THEIR CONCLUSION, FIRST AMERICAN 600 00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:30,070 LAWYERS LEAN TO THE LEFT OF THE IDEOLOGICAL SPECTRUM. 601 00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:33,106 THE MODEL SCORE PLACES THE AVERAGE AMERICAN LAWYER'S 602 00:34:33,106 --> 00:34:35,875 IDEOLOGY CLOSE TO THE IDEOLOGY OF PRESIDENT CLINTON. 603 00:34:35,875 --> 00:34:40,447 THIS CONFIRMS PRIOR SCHOLARSHIP AND JOURNALISM ARGUED THAT THE 604 00:34:40,447 --> 00:34:43,016 LEGAL PROFESSION IS LIBERAL ON BALANCE. 605 00:34:43,016 --> 00:34:48,455 NOW, I DON'T KNOW MRS. BRODY'S PERSONAL PREFERENCES. 606 00:34:48,455 --> 00:34:53,026 SHE DOESN'T DISCUSS IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BUT I WOULD 607 00:34:53,026 --> 00:34:58,031 EXPECT THE ATTORNEYS AND THAT BIAS TO BE REFLECTED ON AN 608 00:34:58,031 --> 00:35:00,600 ANONYMOUS SURVEY OF SOMEONE WHO WAS PRESIDENT OF THE TRIAL 609 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,505 LAWYERS ASSOCIATION VERSUS SOMEONE WHO IS A CONSERVATIVE. 610 00:35:05,505 --> 00:35:08,475 HAS A RECORD AS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR. 611 00:35:08,475 --> 00:35:16,416 IN FACT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY RESULTS FROM 2010, THE 612 00:35:16,416 --> 00:35:20,253 RATINGS RATED HIGHER THAN ANY PERSON WHO HAS APPLIED TO THAT 613 00:35:20,253 --> 00:35:24,357 COURT INCLUDING TWO OF THE SITTING JUSTICES AS WELL AS 614 00:35:24,357 --> 00:35:29,162 SEVERAL DISTRICT JUDGES THAT I HAVE SAT IN FRONT OF. 615 00:35:29,162 --> 00:35:33,900 I AM PROUD THAT THOSE THAT I WORK THE CLOSEST WITH THEIR HAVE 616 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,436 SUPPORTED ME. 617 00:35:36,436 --> 00:35:40,640 EVERY MEMBER OF THE MAJORITY LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT HAS SERVED 618 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,710 ON STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE WHICH I CHAIRED HAS. 619 00:35:43,710 --> 00:35:48,281 EVERY MEMBER OF THE HOUSE LEADERSHIP TEAM AS WELL. 620 00:35:48,281 --> 00:35:51,384 SO I'M PROUD FOR THOSE ENDORSEMENTS. 621 00:35:51,384 --> 00:35:56,923 BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT PEOPLE'S INHERENT BIASES WHEN 622 00:35:56,923 --> 00:35:59,592 THEY FILL OUT AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY. 623 00:35:59,592 --> 00:36:03,830 >> MRS. BRODY, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND. 624 00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:09,669 FIRST I WANT TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING YOU SAID. 625 00:36:09,669 --> 00:36:11,705 YOU POSTED ENDORSEMENTS, ALL REPUBLICANS. 626 00:36:11,705 --> 00:36:15,842 YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BEING A 627 00:36:15,842 --> 00:36:18,311 CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN. 628 00:36:18,311 --> 00:36:22,682 ARE YOU PROPERLY RUNNING FOR A NONPARTISAN OFFICE WITH ALL OF 629 00:36:22,682 --> 00:36:24,484 THESE ENDORSEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOUTING? 630 00:36:24,484 --> 00:36:26,886 >> WELL, THANK YOU. 631 00:36:26,886 --> 00:36:28,788 I'M PROUD OF THOSE ENDORSEMENTS. 632 00:36:28,788 --> 00:36:33,860 BUT I ALSO HAVE ENDORSEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF OTHER PARTIES THAT I 633 00:36:33,860 --> 00:36:35,795 HAVE WORKED WITH. 634 00:36:35,795 --> 00:36:42,602 AS PRESIDENT OF PENWER, OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM WAS MADE UP OF I 635 00:36:42,602 --> 00:36:45,805 WAS PRESIDENT FROM IDAHO BUT ALSO LEADERS FROM OREGON, 636 00:36:45,805 --> 00:36:48,008 BRITISH COLUMBIA AND MONTANA. 637 00:36:48,008 --> 00:36:54,014 AND THE THREE MEMBERS WHO SERVED AS VICE PRESIDENTS WHEN I WAS 638 00:36:54,014 --> 00:36:58,218 PRESIDENT OF THAT ORGANIZATION HAVE ALL ENDORSED ME. 639 00:36:58,218 --> 00:37:03,390 THEY ARE FROM THREE DIFFERENT POLITICAL PARTIES. 640 00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:06,226 SENATOR ROBELAND IS A DEMOCRAT FROM OREGON. 641 00:37:06,226 --> 00:37:10,697 MIKE CUFF IS A REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE FROM MONTANA. 642 00:37:10,697 --> 00:37:17,771 DAN ASHTON WAS AN ML A FROM THE BRITISH COLUMBIA LIBERAL PARTY. 643 00:37:17,771 --> 00:37:21,241 THEY HAVE SENT A LETTER TO THE NEWSPAPERS ACROSS THE STATE AND 644 00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:24,044 I'LL READ A BRIEF PORTION OF THAT. 645 00:37:24,044 --> 00:37:27,414 THEY WROTE, WE'RE MEMBERS OF THREE DIFFERENT POLITICAL 646 00:37:27,414 --> 00:37:30,984 PARTIES BUT PARTY AFFILIATION WAS NEVER AN ISSUE AS WE WORKED 647 00:37:30,984 --> 00:37:34,154 CLOSELY WITH SENATOR McKENZIE TO ADVANCE NONPARTISAN SOLUTIONS 648 00:37:34,154 --> 00:37:35,889 TO REGIONAL ISSUES. 649 00:37:35,889 --> 00:37:40,960 SENATOR McKENZIE'S LEADERSHIP WAS FAIR, OPEN AND COLLABORATIVE 650 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,164 AND FOCUSED ON ADVANCING THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR REGION. 651 00:37:44,164 --> 00:37:49,703 WE BELIEVE THE QUALITIES THAT MADE HIM AN EFFECTED AN 652 00:37:49,703 --> 00:37:54,274 RESPECTED MEMBER OF PENWER WILL SERVE HIM WELL ON THE IDAHO 653 00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:59,045 SUPREME COURT. 654 00:37:59,045 --> 00:38:03,216 >> THE BAR SCORES ARE WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE I EARNED THEM. 655 00:38:03,216 --> 00:38:05,852 I EARNED THEM OVER 20 YEARS. 656 00:38:05,852 --> 00:38:11,391 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT MY SERVICE IN THE BAR, EVERY ORGANIZATION 657 00:38:11,391 --> 00:38:15,762 THAT I HAVE BEEN A PART OF, I HAVE RISEN TO THE LEADERSHIP 658 00:38:15,762 --> 00:38:15,962 SPOT. 659 00:38:15,962 --> 00:38:19,966 I HAVE BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE 5th DISTRICT BAR ASSOCIATION. 660 00:38:19,966 --> 00:38:24,137 I AM PART OF THE IDAHO TRIAL LAWSHES ASSOCIATION AND I BECAME 661 00:38:24,137 --> 00:38:24,871 THE PRESIDENT. 662 00:38:24,871 --> 00:38:30,977 I WAS A MEMBER OF A PROFESSIONALISM ORGANIZATION AND 663 00:38:30,977 --> 00:38:31,945 I BECAME THE PRESIDENT. 664 00:38:31,945 --> 00:38:36,316 IN 2014 THE BAR HONORED ME WITH A PROFESSIONALISM AWARD. 665 00:38:36,316 --> 00:38:40,153 WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME, AND IT HAPPENS VIRTUALLY EVERY DAY, 666 00:38:40,153 --> 00:38:44,858 THEY CALL OR THEY EMAIL, THEY ASK FOR MY ADVICE, MY INPUT. 667 00:38:44,858 --> 00:38:46,426 TALKING ABOUT MY PEERS NOW. 668 00:38:46,426 --> 00:38:49,729 PEOPLE COMING TO ME LOOKING FOR KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION. 669 00:38:49,729 --> 00:38:53,533 WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME TO TEACH, I TEACH. 670 00:38:53,533 --> 00:38:56,069 CONTINUING LEGAL EDUCATION IN ANY FORM THAT THEY ASK. 671 00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:59,272 I'M A MENTOR IN THE IDAHO TRIAL SKILLS ACADEMY. 672 00:38:59,272 --> 00:39:03,309 I MENTOR YOUNG LAWYERS IN PRACTICE LESS THAN TEN YEARS, 673 00:39:03,309 --> 00:39:05,745 HELP THEM BECOME BETTER LAWYERS. 674 00:39:05,745 --> 00:39:10,383 PEOPLE COME TO ME BECAUSE I GIVE BECAUSE I SERVE. 675 00:39:10,383 --> 00:39:14,220 I TRY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE BENEFIT OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND 676 00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:17,824 INFORMATION THAT I HAVE GOT. 677 00:39:17,824 --> 00:39:19,659 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPUTATION. 678 00:39:19,659 --> 00:39:23,663 SOMETHING THAT HAS TAKEN ME 20 YEARS TO EARN. 679 00:39:23,663 --> 00:39:26,766 THAT'S WHY THE BAR SCORES ARE WHAT THEY ARE. 680 00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:29,502 IT'S NOT SIMPLY A REFLECTION OF BIAS. 681 00:39:29,502 --> 00:39:33,973 IT'S A REFLECTION OF PEOPLE KNOWING ME AND MOST IMPORTANTLY 682 00:39:33,973 --> 00:39:36,042 TRUSTING ME. 683 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:38,678 >> THE NEXT QUESTION FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 684 00:39:38,678 --> 00:39:44,250 >> MRS. BRODY, WHILE YOU HAVE RECEIVED ENDORSEMENTS IN THIS 685 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:47,053 RACE FROM AN ARRAY OF INDIVIDUALS IN IDAHO FROM BOTH 686 00:39:47,053 --> 00:39:52,325 POLITICAL PARTIES, STATE RECORDS DO SHOW THAT PRIOR TO YOUR 687 00:39:52,325 --> 00:39:57,697 MAKING THIS RUN IN PAST YEARS YOU DID GIVE POLITICAL 688 00:39:57,697 --> 00:39:59,599 DONATIONS, PARTISAN, ALL TO REPUBLICANS. 689 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:05,171 HOW DO YOU RISE ABOVE YOUR PAST PARTISAN REPUBLICAN TIES TO SEEK 690 00:40:05,171 --> 00:40:06,439 THIS NONPARTISAN SEAT? 691 00:40:06,439 --> 00:40:07,540 >> SURE. 692 00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:11,444 I'M NOT APOLITICAL. 693 00:40:11,444 --> 00:40:17,884 BEFORE I SO THE THIS POSITION I PARTICIPATED ACTIVELY IN LOCAL 694 00:40:17,884 --> 00:40:18,251 POLITICS. 695 00:40:18,251 --> 00:40:23,289 I HAVE BROUGHT PIES TO PICNICS, I HAVE HELPED WIN RACES TO BE 696 00:40:23,289 --> 00:40:26,826 SURE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS RACE, WHEN I SIGNED UP FOR THIS 697 00:40:26,826 --> 00:40:32,465 RACE I KNEW IT WAS NONPARTISAN AND I WAS HAPPY TO SIGN ON. 698 00:40:32,465 --> 00:40:36,536 FRANKLY IN TODAY'S WORLD I LOVE THE FACT THAT IN THIS RACE I CAN 699 00:40:36,536 --> 00:40:40,106 REACH ACROSS THE AISLE TO DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, 700 00:40:40,106 --> 00:40:42,208 CONSTITUTIONALISTS, INDEPENDENTS, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 701 00:40:42,208 --> 00:40:46,579 THE THING ABOUT IT IS WHEN IT COMES TO A SUPREME COURT 702 00:40:46,579 --> 00:40:51,217 JUSTICE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THAT SPECTRUM WANTS THE SAME 703 00:40:51,217 --> 00:40:51,584 THING. 704 00:40:51,584 --> 00:40:55,155 THEY WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO APPLY THE LAW, WHO WILL BE 705 00:40:55,155 --> 00:40:57,223 FAIR, TREAT PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. 706 00:40:57,223 --> 00:40:59,426 THEY WANT THE SAME THINGS, BETSY. 707 00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:01,628 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE POLITICAL LABEL IS. 708 00:41:01,628 --> 00:41:05,799 >> THE NEXT QUESTION IS FROM REBECCA BOONE. 709 00:41:05,799 --> 00:41:11,171 >> NUMBERS FROM EACH DISTRICT SHOW DISPARITIES IN THE AVERAGE 710 00:41:11,171 --> 00:41:15,008 LENGTH OF PROBATION AND SENTENCES ACROSS THE STATE FOR 711 00:41:15,008 --> 00:41:17,177 THE SAME TYPES OF CRIMES. 712 00:41:17,177 --> 00:41:20,547 THE AVERAGE LENGTH GIVEN IN DISTRICT 4 INCLUDING ADA COUNTY 713 00:41:20,547 --> 00:41:23,283 ARE ABOUT TWO YEARS LONGER THAN ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE. 714 00:41:23,283 --> 00:41:26,653 OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR ROLE IN THE LEGISLATURE YOU'RE DEEPLY 715 00:41:26,653 --> 00:41:29,089 FAMILIAR WITH WHAT LAWMAKERS HAVE BEEN DOING. 716 00:41:29,089 --> 00:41:33,259 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU THINK THE COURT SHOULD ADDRESS 717 00:41:33,259 --> 00:41:36,730 THESE SENTENCING DISPARITIES AND IF SO, HOW. 718 00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:37,097 >> THANK YOU. 719 00:41:37,097 --> 00:41:43,269 THE COURT HAS TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION TO ISSUES OF 720 00:41:43,269 --> 00:41:45,271 JUSTICE AND INCARCERATION IN OUR STATE. 721 00:41:45,271 --> 00:41:49,676 I WAS ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS OF THE JUSTICE REINVESTMENT ACT. 722 00:41:49,676 --> 00:41:52,946 I SERVED ON THE PUBLIC DEFENSE REFORM COMMITTEE. 723 00:41:52,946 --> 00:41:58,051 BOTH OF THOSE ARE REFLECTIONS OF ISSUES THAT WE ARE SEEING AS A 724 00:41:58,051 --> 00:42:01,888 STATE RELATED TO INCARCERATION LEVELS AND THE REPRESENTATION 725 00:42:01,888 --> 00:42:04,791 THAT PEOPLE HAVE WHEN THEY GO THROUGH OUR COURT SYSTEM. 726 00:42:04,791 --> 00:42:09,696 I BELIEVE THE COURT HAS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE WORKING WITH THE 727 00:42:09,696 --> 00:42:13,633 LEGISLATURE AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AS WE IMPLEMENT THE 728 00:42:13,633 --> 00:42:17,871 JUSTICE REINVESTMENT ACT AND ALARGE -- A LARGE PART OF THAT 729 00:42:17,871 --> 00:42:25,345 ACT WAS TO MOVE PEOPLE TO SPROFS -- SUPERVISION IN THE COMMUNITY 730 00:42:25,345 --> 00:42:28,181 AWAY FROM INCARCERATION. 731 00:42:28,181 --> 00:42:33,820 RIGHT NOW THERE'S BEING RULES IMPLEMENTED TO PUT THAT INTO 732 00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:34,087 PLACE. 733 00:42:34,087 --> 00:42:38,024 I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME BEFORE WE DO THAT. 734 00:42:38,024 --> 00:42:41,528 GET THE FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS FOR US TO HAVE 735 00:42:41,528 --> 00:42:41,928 THAT. 736 00:42:41,928 --> 00:42:46,032 BUT THE COURT HAS TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE, MONITOR THE 737 00:42:46,032 --> 00:42:50,837 CASES, WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH TO MONITOR THE SENTENCES 738 00:42:50,837 --> 00:42:55,308 AND OUR COUNTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT SUPERVISION TOOLS ARE IN 739 00:42:55,308 --> 00:42:56,743 PLACE FOR THEM TO DO THAT. 740 00:42:56,743 --> 00:42:58,578 IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS. 741 00:42:58,578 --> 00:43:03,316 BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IT IN THAT WAY BECAUSE I 742 00:43:03,316 --> 00:43:06,786 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE 743 00:43:06,786 --> 00:43:12,325 IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO NOT OVER-INCARCERATE IF WE CAN DO SO 744 00:43:12,325 --> 00:43:12,592 SAFELY. 745 00:43:12,592 --> 00:43:17,897 I THINK WE CAN IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES. 746 00:43:17,897 --> 00:43:24,437 >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT JUDGES IF YOU SEE A STATISTIC 747 00:43:24,437 --> 00:43:27,807 THAT SHOWS A GREAT VARIATION AMONG THE DISTRICTS IN THIS 748 00:43:27,807 --> 00:43:31,077 STATE I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO BRING IT TO THE 749 00:43:31,077 --> 00:43:33,013 ATTENTION OF THE JUDGES AND TO TALK ABOUT IT. 750 00:43:33,013 --> 00:43:34,547 FIGURE OUT WHY IS IT? 751 00:43:34,547 --> 00:43:36,983 WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE SYSTEM? 752 00:43:36,983 --> 00:43:39,085 I THINK YOU HAVE TO START THERE. 753 00:43:39,085 --> 00:43:39,452 WHY? 754 00:43:39,452 --> 00:43:41,287 WHY IS IT THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. 755 00:43:41,287 --> 00:43:46,092 FROM THERE YOU CAN ADDRESS WHAT IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE 756 00:43:46,092 --> 00:43:47,293 ABOUT IT. 757 00:43:47,293 --> 00:43:51,197 >> ALL RIGHT, THE IN EX QUESTION COMES FROM BETSY RUSSELL. 758 00:43:51,197 --> 00:43:55,201 >> MRS. BRODY, YOU HAVE BEEN ENDORSED BY MANY HIGH PROFILE 759 00:43:55,201 --> 00:43:58,838 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS INCLUDING EIGHT IDAHO SHERIFFS 760 00:43:58,838 --> 00:43:59,973 AND 18 PROSECUTORS. 761 00:43:59,973 --> 00:44:03,243 AS A JUSTICE ON THE SUPREME COURT HOW CAN YOU BE FAIR TO 762 00:44:03,243 --> 00:44:10,316 CITIZENS WHO HAVE DISPUTES AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT? 763 00:44:10,316 --> 00:44:11,051 >> [AUDIO NOT UNDERSTANDABLE] 764 00:44:11,051 --> 00:44:12,852 THERE'S A PLACE FOR IT. 765 00:44:12,852 --> 00:44:19,092 IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE -- THAT EVERYONE AT 766 00:44:19,092 --> 00:44:22,896 THE END OF THE DAY IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DO. 767 00:44:22,896 --> 00:44:25,999 I BELIEVE AS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE I UNDERSTAND HOLDING 768 00:44:25,999 --> 00:44:27,067 PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. 769 00:44:27,067 --> 00:44:29,436 NO MATTER WHAT THEIR AFFILIATION IS. 770 00:44:29,436 --> 00:44:33,440 AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. 771 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,545 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE 772 00:44:38,545 --> 00:44:42,716 WITHDREW ITS ENDORSEMENT OF YOU BECAUSE YOU FILED A COUPLE OF 773 00:44:42,716 --> 00:44:47,020 UNSUCCESSFUL CIVIL LAWSUITS AGAINST LAW OFFICERS CHARGING 774 00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:51,024 EXCESSIVE FORCE INCLUDING A HIGH FILE CASE IN WHICH A SUSPECT WAS 775 00:44:51,024 --> 00:44:51,291 SHOT. 776 00:44:51,291 --> 00:44:54,561 AS A JUSTICE ON THE SUPREME COURT HOW CAN YOU BE FAIR TO LAW 777 00:44:54,561 --> 00:44:54,894 ENFORCEMENT? 778 00:44:54,894 --> 00:44:59,232 >> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I'M PROUD OF THE ENDORSEMENTS THAT I HAVE 779 00:44:59,232 --> 00:45:02,869 AND MY FRIENDSHIP WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. 780 00:45:02,869 --> 00:45:06,773 BUT THERE'S NO ENDORSEMENT THAT IS WORTH MORE TO ME THAN THE 781 00:45:06,773 --> 00:45:09,609 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF ONE IDAHOAN. 782 00:45:09,609 --> 00:45:15,148 AS A STATE SENATOR, I CARRIED THE MOST SIGNIFICANT BILLS ON 783 00:45:15,148 --> 00:45:17,617 BEHALF OF THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE. 784 00:45:17,617 --> 00:45:21,621 I CARRIED THE PEACE OFFICERS TEMPORARY DISABILITY BILL TO 785 00:45:21,621 --> 00:45:24,858 ENSURE THAT THEIR SALARY AND BENEFITS CONTINUED DURING 786 00:45:24,858 --> 00:45:26,693 PERIODS OF TEMPORARY DISABILITY. 787 00:45:26,693 --> 00:45:31,631 I CARRIED A BILL TO PROTECT THEIR IDENTITIES WHEN THEY ARE 788 00:45:31,631 --> 00:45:32,899 SUED IN COURT. 789 00:45:32,899 --> 00:45:38,438 I WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE FOP TO SET UP THE INTERNET CRIMES 790 00:45:38,438 --> 00:45:41,908 AGAINST CHILDREN UNIT IN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND EVEN THIS 791 00:45:41,908 --> 00:45:47,981 SESSION WORKING WITH SENATOR KEOGHAND SPEAKER -- 792 00:45:47,981 --> 00:45:50,817 [AUDIO NOT UNDERSTANDABLE] TO ENSURE THAT THAT REMAINS AN 793 00:45:50,817 --> 00:45:51,618 INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. 794 00:45:51,618 --> 00:45:57,123 I HAVE ON MY SENATE CALL MY PLAQUE AS THE FOP SENATOR OF THE 795 00:45:57,123 --> 00:46:02,562 YEAR NEXT TO THE PLAQUE OF THE FIREFIGHTERS SENATOR OF THE 796 00:46:02,562 --> 00:46:02,762 YEAR. 797 00:46:02,762 --> 00:46:05,699 I'M PROUD OF THE FRIENDSHIPS THAT I HAVE THERE. 798 00:46:05,699 --> 00:46:10,203 BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THE RIGHTS 799 00:46:10,203 --> 00:46:11,604 OF EVERY IDAHOAN. 800 00:46:11,604 --> 00:46:16,509 SO THE CASE THAT YOU MENTIONED, SOMEONE SHOT DURING ARREST, I 801 00:46:16,509 --> 00:46:21,247 HAD A CASE WHERE SOMEONE HAD THEIR CLAVICLE BROKEN DURING 802 00:46:21,247 --> 00:46:23,983 SERVICE OF A MISDEMEANOR WARRANT. 803 00:46:23,983 --> 00:46:28,888 THEN I HAD A CASE WHERE A TEENAGE BOY WAS GROOMED AND 804 00:46:28,888 --> 00:46:32,692 DRUGGED AND SEXUALLY MOLESTED BY A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. 805 00:46:32,692 --> 00:46:36,696 THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS PROTECTED. 806 00:46:36,696 --> 00:46:43,169 I UNDERSTAND AND I RESPECT THE FOP PROTECTION OF ITS OWN AND TO 807 00:46:43,169 --> 00:46:45,005 STAND UP FOR ITS MEMBERS. 808 00:46:45,005 --> 00:46:47,974 THEY SHOULD DO THAT, BUT I HAVE A DIFFERENT JOB. 809 00:46:47,974 --> 00:46:52,078 MY JOB IS TO STAND UP FOR THE CONSTITUTION REGARDLESS OF MY 810 00:46:52,078 --> 00:46:54,814 FRIENDSHIP OR MY PREFERENCES. 811 00:46:54,814 --> 00:46:56,716 >> DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND? 812 00:46:56,716 --> 00:46:57,450 >> I DO. 813 00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:00,320 YOU KNOW, I AGREE THAT PROTECTING SOMEONE'S 814 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,690 CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IS INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY 815 00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:04,024 IMPORTANT. 816 00:47:04,024 --> 00:47:06,292 I'LL BE THE FIRST TO STAND UP TO DO THAT. 817 00:47:06,292 --> 00:47:11,231 BUT I'LL TELL YOU, AS LAWYERS WHEN WE HAVE KEYS TO THE 818 00:47:11,231 --> 00:47:15,869 COURTHOUSE, YOU HAVE TO USE IMPECCABLE JUDGMENT. 819 00:47:15,869 --> 00:47:18,938 YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT CASES TO FILE. 820 00:47:18,938 --> 00:47:21,875 YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT CASES NOT TO FILE. 821 00:47:21,875 --> 00:47:29,616 YOU HAVE TO USE INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE JUDGMENT BECAUSE 822 00:47:29,616 --> 00:47:31,251 THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES. 823 00:47:31,251 --> 00:47:35,422 WHEN CASES GET BROUGHT THAT DON'T OR SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN 824 00:47:35,422 --> 00:47:39,993 BROUGHT, IT MAKES IT SO DIFFICULT FOR THE NEXT PERSON 825 00:47:39,993 --> 00:47:46,166 WHO NEEDS TO BRING THAT CASE TO GET JUSTICE. 826 00:47:46,166 --> 00:47:51,438 THAT'S I BELIEVE WHY THE FOP REVOKED THEIR ENDORSEMENT. 827 00:47:51,438 --> 00:47:53,440 >> SENATOR McKENZIE? 828 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,045 >> YES, THE CASE THAT MRS. BRODY IS TALKING ABOUT I ONLY GOT 829 00:47:59,045 --> 00:48:01,848 INVOLVED AFTER IT HAD GONE THROUGH SUMMARY JUDGMENT BEFORE 830 00:48:01,848 --> 00:48:07,387 A FEDERAL JUDGE, WHICH IS WHERE A JUDGE LOOKS AT THE FACTS OF A 831 00:48:07,387 --> 00:48:11,491 CASE AND DETERMINES THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO GO BEFORE A JURY. 832 00:48:11,491 --> 00:48:14,761 THAT'S WHEN I GOT INVOLVED IN THAT CASE. 833 00:48:14,761 --> 00:48:19,032 THOSE KIND OF ISSUES NEED TO BE RESOLVED IN OUR COURT SYSTEMS 834 00:48:19,032 --> 00:48:21,034 RATHER THAN OTHER PLACES. 835 00:48:21,034 --> 00:48:21,968 >> THANK YOU, SENATOR. 836 00:48:21,968 --> 00:48:23,703 WE HAVE TO MOVE ON. 837 00:48:23,703 --> 00:48:26,773 REBECCA BOONE HAS A QUESTION. 838 00:48:26,773 --> 00:48:30,310 >> MRS. BRODY, THE COURTS ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED IN LARGE PART 839 00:48:30,310 --> 00:48:33,413 BY FEES FOR CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CASES. 840 00:48:33,413 --> 00:48:37,317 BUT THE FUNDING STREAM ISN'T STABLE AND CIVIL FILINGS HAVE 841 00:48:37,317 --> 00:48:38,785 DROPPED PARTICULARLY. 842 00:48:38,785 --> 00:48:41,688 SO THE FUNDING HAS DROPPED. 843 00:48:41,688 --> 00:48:44,991 AS A MEMBER OF THE IDAHO SUPREME COURT IF ELECTED WHAT STEPS 844 00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:49,896 WOULD YOU PURSUE TO ADDRESS THE DECLINING FEE FUNDING AND ENSURE 845 00:48:49,896 --> 00:48:51,498 ADEQUATE BUDGETS FOR IDAHO COURTS? 846 00:48:51,498 --> 00:48:53,066 >> GOT TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE. 847 00:48:53,066 --> 00:48:56,803 AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 848 00:48:56,803 --> 00:49:01,374 WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE US DO, I DON'T WANT TO SEE US RAISE 849 00:49:01,374 --> 00:49:01,641 FEES. 850 00:49:01,641 --> 00:49:05,845 BECAUSE I THINK IT CREATES PROBLEMS WITH ACCESS TO THE 851 00:49:05,845 --> 00:49:06,112 COURT. 852 00:49:06,112 --> 00:49:10,116 AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO GO -- GOT TO ENSURE AND THE 853 00:49:10,116 --> 00:49:14,387 LEGISLATURE IS A PART OF THAT, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A COURT 854 00:49:14,387 --> 00:49:18,224 SYSTEM THAT IS FULLY AND ADEQUATELY FUNDED SO WE CAN TAKE 855 00:49:18,224 --> 00:49:22,662 CARE OF IDAHO'S JUDICIAL NEEDS. 856 00:49:22,662 --> 00:49:26,566 >> THE COURTS DO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT DISCRETION, THOUGH, 857 00:49:26,566 --> 00:49:33,039 OVER SUGGESTING WHAT FEES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, WHEN THEY SHOULD 858 00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:33,973 BE IMPLEMENTED. 859 00:49:33,973 --> 00:49:38,778 SOME CRITICS SAY PARTICULARLY THE CRIMINAL FEES AND FAMILY LAW 860 00:49:38,778 --> 00:49:43,583 RELATED FILING FEES ACTUALLY PUT THE BURDEN ON SOME OF IDAHO'S 861 00:49:43,583 --> 00:49:44,884 MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS. 862 00:49:44,884 --> 00:49:49,356 IN THOSE SITTINGSES SHOULD THERE BE ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM? 863 00:49:49,356 --> 00:49:54,794 >> WELL, I CERTAINLY CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE IDEA THAT THOSE FEES 864 00:49:54,794 --> 00:49:56,629 PUT A BURDEN ON PEOPLE. 865 00:49:56,629 --> 00:49:58,431 HAVE SEEN IT IN MY OWN PRACTICE. 866 00:49:58,431 --> 00:50:02,502 I HAVE HAD TO FILE PAPERWORK TO TRY TO GET FEES WAIVED BUT IT'S 867 00:50:02,502 --> 00:50:03,236 DIFFICULT TO DO. 868 00:50:03,236 --> 00:50:06,506 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE 869 00:50:06,506 --> 00:50:10,543 REALTY IS IN A STATE LIKE IDAHO YOU HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH 870 00:50:10,543 --> 00:50:11,378 THE LEGISLATURE. 871 00:50:11,378 --> 00:50:16,449 YOU HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH COUNTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT 872 00:50:16,449 --> 00:50:22,288 YOU'RE MAXIMIZING THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'VE GOT AND MAKING THE 873 00:50:22,288 --> 00:50:23,456 BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE. 874 00:50:23,456 --> 00:50:26,359 THERE'S NOT AN EASY ANSWER TO THE FUNDING PROBLEM. 875 00:50:26,359 --> 00:50:30,997 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, THE STRUGGLE TO FUND THE COURTS, 876 00:50:30,997 --> 00:50:32,899 WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE? 877 00:50:32,899 --> 00:50:42,008 >> WELL, I HAVE WORKED WITH THE COURT LOBBYIST ON A NUMBER OF -- 878 00:50:42,008 --> 00:50:46,012 PUTTING OUR SENIOR JUDGE PROGRAM IN PLACE TO UTILIZE JUDGES WHO 879 00:50:46,012 --> 00:50:48,148 HAD RETIRED BACK IN OUR COURT SYSTEM. 880 00:50:48,148 --> 00:50:52,952 I HAVE WORKED ON OTHER THINGS I TALK ABOUT THE FOP BILL, THESE 881 00:50:52,952 --> 00:50:56,122 THINGS OFTEN GET PUT ON TO FEES AND COSTS. 882 00:50:56,122 --> 00:50:59,325 AS YOU SAY IN CRIMINAL CONTEXT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T GET PAID. 883 00:50:59,325 --> 00:51:02,495 IF A PERSON IS SENT TO PRISON, DOESN'T GET PAID. 884 00:51:02,495 --> 00:51:08,234 IN A CIVIL CONTEST IT CAN BE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE'RE 885 00:51:08,234 --> 00:51:08,868 HAVING FEWER FILINGS. 886 00:51:08,868 --> 00:51:13,239 THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT THE COURT, THE LEGISLATURE, AND 887 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,610 THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE PUBLIC DEFENSE 888 00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:19,546 SYSTEM SO HEAVILY HAVE TO RESOLVE. 889 00:51:19,546 --> 00:51:23,350 I THINK THE FEES AND COSTS ARE GOING TO BE A COMPONENT BUT YOU 890 00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:26,920 CANNOT KEEP ADDING TO THOSE TO PAY FOR THE SYSTEM. 891 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,390 SO IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND ALL THREE BRANCH 892 00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:33,893 VERSUS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE OUR COURTS ARE ACCESSIBLE 893 00:51:33,893 --> 00:51:38,832 BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR THINGS WE NEED TO PAY FOR. 894 00:51:38,832 --> 00:51:42,569 >> MRS. BROAD YOU, BOTH YOUR PRACTICES RESIDE IN AREAS WHERE 895 00:51:42,569 --> 00:51:47,307 THE NEW ODYSSEY SYSTEM, PAPERLESS SYSTEM, HAS BEEN 896 00:51:47,307 --> 00:51:49,042 ROLLING OUT FOR OUR COURTS. 897 00:51:49,042 --> 00:51:52,846 WHAT HAS YOUR EXPERIENCE BEEN AENED WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE 898 00:51:52,846 --> 00:51:53,680 MOVING FORWARD? 899 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,315 >> I LOVE ELECTRONIC FILING. 900 00:51:55,315 --> 00:51:59,619 I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING PRIMARILY IN THE WATER COURTS OVER THE 901 00:51:59,619 --> 00:52:02,222 LAST FIVE YEARS AND I'M SPOLD ROTTEN. 902 00:52:02,222 --> 00:52:02,889 I LOVE IT. 903 00:52:02,889 --> 00:52:04,424 IT MAKES LIFE A LOT EASIER. 904 00:52:04,424 --> 00:52:05,892 >> SAME QUESTION, SENATOR. 905 00:52:05,892 --> 00:52:10,997 >> I HAVE UTILIZED IT MOSTLY IN THE FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM WHERE 906 00:52:10,997 --> 00:52:14,434 IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC FILING. 907 00:52:14,434 --> 00:52:16,870 ADA COUNTY IS JUST STARTING IT THERE. 908 00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:20,640 I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE COURT 909 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,376 RECORDS ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE. 910 00:52:23,376 --> 00:52:26,646 IT'S EASIER TO FILE ONCE YOU FIGURE OUT THE SYSTEM. 911 00:52:26,646 --> 00:52:31,818 AND THE NOTICES THAT GO OUT ARE EASIER FOR THE ATTORNEYS TO 912 00:52:31,818 --> 00:52:34,354 FOLLOW AND FIND OUT WHEN THEIR DEADLINES ARE. 913 00:52:34,354 --> 00:52:37,023 IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT WE'RE JUST STARTING TO IMPLEMENT 914 00:52:37,023 --> 00:52:38,091 IN IDAHO. 915 00:52:38,091 --> 00:52:41,461 I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT FROM HAVING PRACTICED IN FEDERAL 916 00:52:41,461 --> 00:52:44,297 COURT AND I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE DOING IT AT THE STATE LEVEL. 917 00:52:44,297 --> 00:52:48,301 WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT THROUGHOUT THE 918 00:52:48,301 --> 00:52:48,535 STATE. 919 00:52:48,535 --> 00:52:52,939 >> MRS. BRODY, PART OF ONE OF THE AIMS OF THE NEW SYSTEM IS TO 920 00:52:52,939 --> 00:52:56,743 MAKE COURT DOCUMENTS MORE WIDELY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE ALL 921 00:52:56,743 --> 00:53:00,146 THROUGHOUT THE STATE AS THEY HAVE BEEN IN FEDERAL COURT 922 00:53:00,146 --> 00:53:01,348 ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 923 00:53:01,348 --> 00:53:04,951 HOW DO YOU VIEW THAT KIND OF TRANSPARENCY AND WHAT SHOULD WE 924 00:53:04,951 --> 00:53:07,954 BE DOING AS FAR AS TRANSPARENCY IN OUR COURTS? 925 00:53:07,954 --> 00:53:11,424 >> I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE HAVE 926 00:53:11,424 --> 00:53:12,892 ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES. 927 00:53:12,892 --> 00:53:16,696 I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STEVE KENYAN, THE COURT CLERK, 928 00:53:16,696 --> 00:53:19,499 ABOUT THE ODYSSEY SYSTEM AND ABOUT WHEN THE COURT WILL BE 929 00:53:19,499 --> 00:53:22,602 MOVING TO ACTUALLY MAKING THOSE DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE. 930 00:53:22,602 --> 00:53:27,974 RIGHT NOW OF COURSE THE COURT IS GETTING ALL OF THE FILINGS 931 00:53:27,974 --> 00:53:31,244 ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE ONLINE AND ONCE THAT IS UP AND ROLLING I 932 00:53:31,244 --> 00:53:34,814 KNOW THE COURT WILL BE WRESTLING WITH THE ISSUE HOW DO WE BEST 933 00:53:34,814 --> 00:53:38,084 DELIVER ACTUAL ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES AND I'M 934 00:53:38,084 --> 00:53:41,087 EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. 935 00:53:41,087 --> 00:53:43,556 I'M A PACER USER MYSELF. 936 00:53:43,556 --> 00:53:45,091 THAT'S THE FEDERAL FILING SYSTEM. 937 00:53:45,091 --> 00:53:48,762 I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY A ROLE IN MAKING SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS. 938 00:53:48,762 --> 00:53:52,132 >> SENATOR McKENZIE, HOW TRANSPARENT SHOULD OUR COURT 939 00:53:52,132 --> 00:53:53,400 SYSTEM BE? 940 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,469 HOW EASY SHOULD IT BE TO GET THOSE RECORDS FOR PEOPLE ACROSS 941 00:53:56,469 --> 00:53:58,405 THE STATE? 942 00:53:58,405 --> 00:54:02,942 >> IN PUBLICLY FILED CASES WHERE THEY ARE NOT UNDER SEAL, THEY 943 00:54:02,942 --> 00:54:05,412 SHOULD BE VERY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE. 944 00:54:05,412 --> 00:54:07,981 HERE IN IDAHO WE'RE USED TO A SYSTEM THAT'S LIKE THAT BECAUSE 945 00:54:07,981 --> 00:54:11,685 OF THE FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM WHERE IT'S VERY EASY TO GET 946 00:54:11,685 --> 00:54:17,590 COPIES OF DOCUMENTS OFF THE PACER SYSTEM IN PDF FORMS. 947 00:54:17,590 --> 00:54:21,161 THAT'S A VERY USEFUL THING AND I'M GLAD TO SEE IN IDAHO WE'RE 948 00:54:21,161 --> 00:54:26,099 TART TOKING DO IN THAT -- STARTING TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION 949 00:54:26,099 --> 00:54:29,235 AND MAKE THOSE RECORDS ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. 950 00:54:29,235 --> 00:54:31,871 >> ONE LAST QUESTION. 951 00:54:31,871 --> 00:54:35,542 JUSTICES ARE APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT AND APPROVED BY THE 952 00:54:35,542 --> 00:54:35,909 SENATE. 953 00:54:35,909 --> 00:54:40,513 SHOULD THE DECISION BE LEFT TO VOTERS? 954 00:54:40,513 --> 00:54:43,650 >> YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH THE IDAHO VOTERS 955 00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:46,720 EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 956 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:47,454 >> SENATOR? 957 00:54:47,454 --> 00:54:50,724 >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PROCESS FOR IDAHO. 958 00:54:50,724 --> 00:54:53,560 WE HAVE SEEN HOW POLITICAL THAT APPOINTMENT CAN BE AT THE 959 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,928 FEDERAL LEVEL. 960 00:54:54,928 --> 00:54:58,932 I TRUST THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR IDAHO. 961 00:54:58,932 --> 00:54:59,699 >> OKAY. 962 00:54:59,699 --> 00:55:02,502 THAT'S ABOUT ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR QUESTIONS. 963 00:55:02,502 --> 00:55:03,570 THAT WAS FUN. 964 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:05,672 WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANY LAWYER JOKES. 965 00:55:05,672 --> 00:55:07,240 THAT WAS GREAT. 966 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:09,676 IT IS TIME FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS. 967 00:55:09,676 --> 00:55:11,978 SENATOR McKENZIE, YOU WON THE COIN TOSS. 968 00:55:11,978 --> 00:55:13,046 YOU GO FIRST. 969 00:55:13,046 --> 00:55:13,413 >> THANK YOU. 970 00:55:13,413 --> 00:55:17,250 AGAIN I WANT TO THANK OUR HOST FOR HAVING US HERE FOR EACH OF 971 00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,419 YOU WHO HAVE WATCHED THIS. 972 00:55:19,419 --> 00:55:25,492 I BELIEVE THAT THE BACKGROUND THAT I HAVE IN THE LEGISLATURE 973 00:55:25,492 --> 00:55:30,497 HAS GIVEN ME A KNOWLEDGE OF SEPARATION OF POWERS, IMPORTANT 974 00:55:30,497 --> 00:55:32,332 FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE ON THE COURT. 975 00:55:32,332 --> 00:55:35,268 IN IDAHO WE HAVE A LONG TRADITION OF THOSE HAVING SERVED 976 00:55:35,268 --> 00:55:38,972 IN ELECTED OFFICE ALSO BEING ON OUR COURT. 977 00:55:38,972 --> 00:55:43,343 IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE FOR A JUSTICE TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND 978 00:55:43,343 --> 00:55:49,716 THAT THEIR ROLE IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT THAN SETTING POLICY IN 979 00:55:49,716 --> 00:55:50,917 THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. 980 00:55:50,917 --> 00:55:55,021 I HAVE A STRONG ACADEMIC BACKGROUND, STARTED IN IDAHO, 981 00:55:55,021 --> 00:55:58,458 WAS AT GEORGETOWN WHERE I MET JUSTICE SCALIA. 982 00:55:58,458 --> 00:56:01,394 I STARTED TO UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHY THAT HE APPLIES TO 983 00:56:01,394 --> 00:56:05,865 CONSTITUTIONAL CASES WHICH I BELIEVE NOT ONLY APPLIES TO THE 984 00:56:05,865 --> 00:56:08,468 CONSTITUTION BUT EVERY ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE THE COURT. 985 00:56:08,468 --> 00:56:12,772 THERE SHOULD BE PREDICTABILITY UNDER THE RULE OF LAW AND I WILL 986 00:56:12,772 --> 00:56:14,607 PROTECT THAT FOR ALL IDAHOANS. 987 00:56:14,607 --> 00:56:15,775 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 988 00:56:15,775 --> 00:56:17,510 >> THANK YOU SENATOR McKENZIE. 989 00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:18,678 MRS. BRODY. 990 00:56:18,678 --> 00:56:24,517 >> YOU KNOW, I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A COUNTY BY COUNTY ORGANIZATION 991 00:56:24,517 --> 00:56:27,253 TO HELP ME RUN THIS RACE. 992 00:56:27,253 --> 00:56:31,891 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST, THERE ARE DEMOCRATS, 993 00:56:31,891 --> 00:56:34,994 REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENTS, TEA PARTIERS. 994 00:56:34,994 --> 00:56:38,431 THERE ARE MEN, THERE ARE WOMEN, THERE ARE YOUNG, THERE ARE OLD, 995 00:56:38,431 --> 00:56:40,900 THERE ARE BLUE COLOR, THERE ARE PROFESSIONALS. 996 00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:41,868 THERE ARE TEACHERS. 997 00:56:41,868 --> 00:56:46,506 I AM SO PROUD OF THE BROAD SUPPORT THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE 998 00:56:46,506 --> 00:56:49,642 STATE OF IDAHO HAVE GIVEN TO ME. 999 00:56:49,642 --> 00:56:54,280 IT'S THE BEST PART OF THIS RACE BY FAR. 1000 00:56:54,280 --> 00:57:00,286 THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE IS ONE SIMPLY OF EXPERIENCE. 1001 00:57:00,286 --> 00:57:01,755 EXPERIENCE MATTERS. 1002 00:57:01,755 --> 00:57:05,492 BECAUSE AT THE HEART OF EXPERIENCE, THAT'S WHAT CREATES 1003 00:57:05,492 --> 00:57:07,660 GOOD JUDGMENT. 1004 00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:13,133 HAVING THE BROAD BACKGROUND AND THE DEPTH IS INCREDIBLY 1005 00:57:13,133 --> 00:57:13,466 IMPORTANT. 1006 00:57:13,466 --> 00:57:16,036 MEETING JUSTICE SCALIA IS AN INSPIRATION. 1007 00:57:16,036 --> 00:57:19,139 BUT IT'S NOT A QUALIFICATION FOR THIS JOB. 1008 00:57:19,139 --> 00:57:23,977 I'M THE PERSON WHO IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE IDAHO SUPREME 1009 00:57:23,977 --> 00:57:24,678 COURT. 1010 00:57:24,678 --> 00:57:28,481 >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU TO BOTH OF OUR CANDIDATES. 1011 00:57:28,481 --> 00:57:30,784 THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT. 1012 00:57:30,784 --> 00:57:38,158 SENATOR McKENZIE, ROBYN BRODY, THANKO TO OUR PANELISTS. 1013 00:57:38,158 --> 00:57:41,161 REMEMBER THE ELECTION IS NOVEMBER 8th AND YOU CAN VOTE 1014 00:57:41,161 --> 00:57:43,163 EARLY THROUGH NOVEMBER 4th. 1015 00:57:43,163 --> 00:57:46,166 FOR MORE INFORMATION ON VOTING INCLUDING HOW TO REGISTER AND 1016 00:57:46,166 --> 00:57:49,736 WHERE TO FIND YOUR POLLING PLACE CALL YOUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE 1017 00:57:49,736 --> 00:57:52,339 OR VISIT IDAHOVOTES.ORG. 1018 00:57:52,339 --> 00:57:53,340 THANKS FOR WATCHING. 1019 00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:53,640 GOODNIGHT. 1020 00:57:53,640 --> 00:58:03,116 WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS.