WEBVTT 00:01.001 --> 00:05.438 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 00:15.782 --> 00:18.518 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> NARRATOR: Tonight, a special investigation 00:18.551 --> 00:21.121 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% from "Frontline" and "The Wall Street Journal." 00:21.154 --> 00:24.290 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> There were allegations of drug misuse, stealing, 00:24.324 --> 00:26.126 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% sexual abuse, and inappropriate behavior. 00:26.159 --> 00:28.061 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: Decades of dysfunction 00:28.094 --> 00:29.963 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% inside the federal agency 00:29.996 --> 00:32.665 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% that provides health care to Native Americans. 00:32.699 --> 00:34.334 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% >> The Indian Health Service, 00:34.367 --> 00:36.069 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% they just seem impervious to improvement, 00:36.102 --> 00:37.437 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% and they could not get it right. 00:37.470 --> 00:41.775 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> Because of the absolute need to fill positions, 00:41.808 --> 00:45.178 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% we don't really get the best of the best. 00:45.211 --> 00:47.113 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: And the case of a government pediatrician 00:47.147 --> 00:50.417 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% moved from reservation to reservation... 00:50.450 --> 00:52.986 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> My concerns was that this man was sexually using children. 00:53.019 --> 00:54.220 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: ...despite the warnings. 00:54.254 --> 00:56.823 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> There was obviously a lot of people 00:56.856 --> 00:59.626 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% that knew something was going on, 00:59.659 --> 01:01.628 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% and they didn't do anything. 01:01.661 --> 01:02.996 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: The Indian Health Service 01:03.029 --> 01:05.632 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% and the failure to stop decades of abuse. 01:05.665 --> 01:07.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> What kind of cover-up is this? 01:07.434 --> 01:10.737 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% This involves a lot of people in a lot of high places. 01:12.439 --> 01:14.474 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: "Predator on the Reservation." 01:16.309 --> 01:19.879 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 02:04.958 --> 02:07.293 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: Dr. Stanley Patrick Weber 02:07.327 --> 02:10.597 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% was a pediatrician working for the Indian Health Service. 02:20.039 --> 02:23.176 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: His patients were Native American children. 02:43.062 --> 02:45.732 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: Allegations followed Dr. Weber 02:45.765 --> 02:48.401 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% from reservation to reservation. 03:05.218 --> 03:07.554 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 03:16.296 --> 03:18.765 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% (sirens blaring in distance) 03:23.136 --> 03:26.639 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% (car horns honking) 03:30.043 --> 03:32.011 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: "Wall Street Journal" reporters 03:32.045 --> 03:33.680 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% Christopher Weaver and Dan Frosch 03:33.713 --> 03:36.883 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% have been on the trail of Dr. Stanley Patrick Weber 03:36.916 --> 03:39.919 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% and the government agency he worked for, 03:39.953 --> 03:42.589 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% the Indian Health Service. 03:42.622 --> 03:43.856 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> WEAVER: Starting about two years ago, 03:43.890 --> 03:45.858 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% we got interested in a federal agency 03:45.892 --> 03:47.627 align:left position:42.5%,start line:5% size:47.5% called the Indian Health Service. 03:47.660 --> 03:49.896 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65% Their hospitals have had an ugly track record 03:49.929 --> 03:50.897 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% in the last few years. 03:50.930 --> 03:53.199 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% They were missing diagnoses, 03:53.233 --> 03:54.701 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% patients were dying for no reason. 03:54.734 --> 03:59.239 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% And we found that the agency had failed for many years 03:59.272 --> 04:01.374 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to take in hand a series of structural problems 04:01.407 --> 04:05.078 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% that had basically rendered these hospitals incapable 04:05.111 --> 04:07.380 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5% of meeting their regulatory requirements. 04:07.413 --> 04:10.783 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% We found a bunch of doctors with troubled track records 04:10.817 --> 04:13.152 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% before they joined the IHS or once they got there. 04:13.186 --> 04:16.522 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% In some cases, people who had, who had been convicted of crimes 04:16.556 --> 04:18.825 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% prior to their service with the IHS. 04:18.858 --> 04:20.360 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> And the IHS hired them anyway? 04:20.393 --> 04:21.995 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> WEAVER: The IHS hired them anyway. 04:22.028 --> 04:25.632 align:left position:15%,start line:11% size:75% >> FROSCH: We began looking into troubled doctors 04:25.665 --> 04:26.833 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% that had got in trouble 04:26.866 --> 04:29.569 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% during the course of their careers at IHS. 04:29.602 --> 04:32.472 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% And one of those doctors was a guy 04:32.505 --> 04:33.640 align:left position:35%,start line:5% size:55% by the name of Stanley Patrick Weber. 04:33.673 --> 04:36.409 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> WEAVER: Upon finishing the residency, 04:36.442 --> 04:39.512 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% he immediately joined the Indian Health Service. 04:39.545 --> 04:43.916 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% He was stationed from '86 to '89 at a hospital in Oklahoma, 04:43.950 --> 04:47.587 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% Ada, Oklahoma, that the IHS ran at that time. 04:47.620 --> 04:48.755 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% He was a pediatrician there. 04:48.788 --> 04:50.490 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> And have we tried to reach him? 04:50.523 --> 04:51.557 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% >> WEAVER: Yes. >> And? 04:51.591 --> 04:53.092 align:left position:37.5%,start line:5% size:52.5% >> WEAVER: And he hasn't responded. 04:53.126 --> 04:57.730 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> FROSCH: This doctor being accused of sexual assault 04:57.764 --> 05:00.933 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55% by patients. 05:00.967 --> 05:03.703 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% And we thought that warranted a broader look, 05:03.736 --> 05:05.672 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% both at Dr. Weber, 05:05.705 --> 05:08.074 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% but also at sort of widespread practice 05:08.107 --> 05:10.743 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% of hiring doctors who, who would get into trouble. 05:10.777 --> 05:14.480 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> WEAVER: We thought, "We got to find out, did the IHS know? 05:14.514 --> 05:16.382 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% "Did anybody have any inkling 05:16.416 --> 05:18.117 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% that there might be an issue with this doctor?" 05:18.151 --> 05:21.587 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 05:23.289 --> 05:26.092 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% >> NARRATOR: In 1992, Dr. Weber arrived 05:26.125 --> 05:28.695 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% in the little town of Browning, Montana, 05:28.728 --> 05:30.763 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% part of the Blackfeet Indian Reservation. 05:30.797 --> 05:33.433 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 05:36.035 --> 05:40.807 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> FROSCH: Blackfeet Reservation is about 2,300 square miles. 05:40.840 --> 05:42.175 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% It butts up against Canada. 05:42.208 --> 05:43.876 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% This stunningly beautiful place. 05:43.910 --> 05:47.046 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5% Like a lot of Indian reservations, 05:47.080 --> 05:50.016 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% there's high poverty rates, high rates of alcoholism, 05:50.049 --> 05:53.486 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5% diabetes, domestic abuse, et cetera. 05:53.519 --> 05:56.356 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% And so this is really one of the most far-flung places 05:56.389 --> 05:59.392 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% that you could go if you were a doctor. 05:59.425 --> 06:01.294 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 06:01.327 --> 06:03.396 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: The reservation's only hospital 06:03.429 --> 06:07.734 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% was run by the IHS, which struggled to find doctors. 06:09.635 --> 06:14.140 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% Mary Ellen LaFromboise was the hospital's C.E.O. at the time. 06:14.173 --> 06:17.610 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> We had been without a, a pediatrician for a while. 06:17.643 --> 06:21.614 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% So here comes Dr. Weber. 06:21.647 --> 06:25.184 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% And all I could think of is, "He looks comfortable, huh?" 06:25.218 --> 06:26.619 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% He looked young. 06:26.652 --> 06:29.822 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% And just seemed like he was, would be a good fit for us. 06:29.856 --> 06:33.226 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: One of the first things Dr. Weber did 06:33.259 --> 06:36.829 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% was help expand the hospital's youth outreach programs. 06:36.863 --> 06:38.965 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% >> They were talking about, 06:38.998 --> 06:42.301 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% "We want to do some things in the school. 06:42.335 --> 06:43.703 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% "You know, we have some programs 06:43.736 --> 06:46.606 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% that would blend really well with middle school." 06:46.639 --> 06:48.541 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% I just thought, "Wow, here's something 06:48.574 --> 06:50.676 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% "that the hospital can offer the community. 06:50.710 --> 06:54.781 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% We'll put Dr. Weber out there in the community." 06:54.814 --> 06:58.584 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 06:58.618 --> 07:01.988 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> NARRATOR: Almost from the start, concerns began to emerge. 07:02.021 --> 07:05.024 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% Tim Davis is the chairman of the Blackfeet tribe. 07:05.057 --> 07:08.361 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% >> Running Weasel is my Indian name. 07:08.394 --> 07:09.996 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: But in 1992, he worked 07:10.029 --> 07:11.731 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% in the hospital's facilities department. 07:11.764 --> 07:13.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> That green house, 105 is it? 07:13.800 --> 07:15.835 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% That's the one Weber was in. 07:17.937 --> 07:19.605 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% >> NARRATOR: Part of his job 07:19.639 --> 07:22.275 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% was to inspect government-owned houses, 07:22.308 --> 07:24.677 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% including the one where Dr. Weber lived alone. 07:24.710 --> 07:26.345 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% >> So what we did, each annual walk-through, 07:26.379 --> 07:28.381 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% we'd come through each house, 07:28.414 --> 07:30.116 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% and I'd do the inspection of the roof, 07:30.149 --> 07:32.785 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% the floors, the walls, the windows, the doors, 07:32.819 --> 07:33.853 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% and then go through the basement, 07:33.886 --> 07:36.456 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% check out for any leaks. 07:36.489 --> 07:38.925 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% When I went downstairs was when I was kind of, like, floored, 07:38.958 --> 07:41.127 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% because of what I saw there as a... 07:41.160 --> 07:44.864 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% to me, a signal of something that wasn't right. 07:44.897 --> 07:48.801 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The gentleman had a lot of food items, 07:48.835 --> 07:52.872 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% candy, pop, cookies, and then toys, games, 07:52.905 --> 07:56.142 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% videos, games that boys would play with. 07:56.175 --> 07:59.879 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I mean, it wasn't just a small, it was stacks of stuff. 07:59.912 --> 08:02.515 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% I mean, they were stacked. 08:02.548 --> 08:04.650 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% I mean, I'm a dad, I got boys, I got eight boys, 08:04.684 --> 08:06.486 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% and, I mean, I buy my kids stuff, 08:06.519 --> 08:07.487 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but it's not stacked up in the basement 08:07.520 --> 08:08.888 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% like, like that was, you know. 08:08.921 --> 08:10.456 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% And that, to me, signaled 08:10.490 --> 08:12.625 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% there's something wrong with this guy. 08:12.658 --> 08:15.027 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% >> NARRATOR: Davis says 08:15.061 --> 08:18.397 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% he shared his concerns with Mary Ellen LaFromboise, 08:18.431 --> 08:21.133 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% who at the time didn't see it as cause for alarm. 08:21.167 --> 08:24.637 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 08:44.790 --> 08:48.461 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 08:48.494 --> 08:50.830 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> The comments that were coming from maintenance 08:50.863 --> 08:55.167 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% about how there's a lot of traffic of young people 08:55.201 --> 08:58.538 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% in and out of Dr. Weber's, um, quarters. 09:00.373 --> 09:03.242 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% And I think somebody had asked him about it, 09:03.276 --> 09:04.944 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% why there were so many young people. 09:04.977 --> 09:07.413 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% "Oh, they, we just like to get together, you know, 09:07.446 --> 09:09.415 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% to have pizza or pop." 09:09.448 --> 09:11.784 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% You know, things that kids like to do. 09:13.386 --> 09:18.624 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% He seemed to be genuinely interested in our young people. 09:21.060 --> 09:25.998 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% He came with the idea of having a, a teen clinic area, 09:26.032 --> 09:27.567 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% you know, by having evening clinics, 09:27.600 --> 09:30.536 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% being more user-friendly to the community. 09:30.570 --> 09:33.272 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 09:33.306 --> 09:35.875 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: Others at the hospital were suspicious 09:35.908 --> 09:38.844 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% of Dr. Weber's intentions. 09:38.878 --> 09:40.446 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Psychologist Dan Foster 09:40.479 --> 09:43.349 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and his wife, Becky, a mental health specialist, 09:43.382 --> 09:46.018 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5% knew some of Dr. Weber's patients. 09:46.052 --> 09:48.154 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% They became increasingly uncomfortable 09:48.187 --> 09:50.456 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% with his after-hours clinic. 09:50.489 --> 09:52.625 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% >> Normally, if you bring your child to a pediatrician, 09:52.658 --> 09:54.060 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% a parent is with them. 09:54.093 --> 09:58.965 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% Or if a social worker brings a child to a pediatrician, 09:58.998 --> 10:02.868 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the social worker is with them, an adult is with them. 10:02.902 --> 10:06.238 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% But these boys were going in there alone. 10:06.272 --> 10:09.175 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 10:09.208 --> 10:11.777 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> It was pre-pubescent, adolescent males. 10:11.811 --> 10:14.847 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Most of them teenagers, 12 to 15 years old. 10:14.880 --> 10:16.616 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% All of them vulnerable, high-risk. 10:16.649 --> 10:19.085 align:left position:35%,start line:5% size:55% Many of whom we already had suspicions 10:19.118 --> 10:21.921 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% that they'd been sexually molested or, or abused. 10:21.954 --> 10:25.291 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% And so that, that was a red flag. 10:25.324 --> 10:28.828 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% And then later, one of our colleagues came 10:28.861 --> 10:31.263 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and told me he had real concerns 10:31.297 --> 10:35.968 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% regarding this doctor's bringing a couch into his, his office, 10:36.002 --> 10:40.072 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and that he was keeping young males in there after hours, 10:40.106 --> 10:42.074 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% when most of the staff had gone home. 10:42.108 --> 10:45.845 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 10:45.878 --> 10:49.649 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: While Dr. Weber was on the Blackfeet Reservation, 10:49.682 --> 10:51.851 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% no child is known to have come forward 10:51.884 --> 10:54.954 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% with a specific allegation of abuse. 10:54.987 --> 10:57.556 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% But Becky Foster remembered one boy 10:57.590 --> 11:00.159 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% who she'd later had concerns about-- 11:00.192 --> 11:01.861 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% Joe Four Horns. 11:03.429 --> 11:05.364 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% He's now in prison for bank robbery, 11:05.398 --> 11:07.767 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% but spoke to reporter Dan Frosch by phone. 11:57.349 --> 12:00.319 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 12:00.352 --> 12:02.621 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: Joe says he never told anyone at the time 12:02.655 --> 12:05.958 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% what was happening during his visits with Dr. Weber. 12:09.995 --> 12:11.363 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% But on the reservation, 12:11.397 --> 12:15.568 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% the rumors and suspicions were growing. 12:15.601 --> 12:17.737 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> He took the kids to Great Falls shopping, 12:17.770 --> 12:18.971 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% he took them to basketball tournaments 12:19.004 --> 12:20.673 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% when our kids would qualify. 12:20.706 --> 12:22.475 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% To us, that was getting the community used 12:22.508 --> 12:24.610 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% to seeing him with these kids 12:24.643 --> 12:26.579 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% and the implication of parental permission. 12:26.612 --> 12:30.149 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% >> This is grooming behavior. 12:30.182 --> 12:33.152 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% So you take kids who are high-risk, 12:33.185 --> 12:36.088 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% who are from difficult family circumstances, 12:36.122 --> 12:37.456 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% and who are poor. 12:37.490 --> 12:42.461 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And you offer them new clothes, and you offer them food, 12:42.495 --> 12:44.864 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and you offer them, you know, a home 12:44.897 --> 12:48.334 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% where the lights are on all the time-- 12:48.367 --> 12:50.669 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% a child will gravitate toward that. 12:50.703 --> 12:52.738 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 12:52.772 --> 12:56.542 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: Dan Foster says he decided to confront Dr. Weber. 12:56.575 --> 12:59.445 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> I had these concerns, and I wanted him to know 12:59.478 --> 13:01.680 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% that I was bringing these concerns forward. 13:01.714 --> 13:07.353 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% My hope was that if he were doing something, he would stop. 13:07.386 --> 13:09.755 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% And if he weren't, he would be warned 13:09.789 --> 13:12.858 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and would modify his behavior accordingly. 13:12.892 --> 13:14.727 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% But, but he did not. 13:14.760 --> 13:16.295 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> FROSCH: How did he respond to you? 13:16.328 --> 13:20.299 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> He was polite, he assured me that he would not harm a child, 13:20.332 --> 13:22.101 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% he was respectful. 13:22.134 --> 13:24.770 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% And then I just didn't see him after that. 13:24.804 --> 13:28.541 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 14:43.716 --> 14:47.186 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% >> NARRATOR: Finally, after years of suspicion and rumor, 14:47.219 --> 14:50.055 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% there was an incident that couldn't be ignored, 14:50.089 --> 14:51.924 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% involving a boy who'd been sleeping 14:51.957 --> 14:54.293 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% at the doctor's house. 14:54.326 --> 14:57.062 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> There was an incident reported to me 14:57.096 --> 14:59.698 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% where a family member to a kid, you know, 14:59.732 --> 15:03.836 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% went over there and wanted to fight him, 15:03.869 --> 15:06.572 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% and ended up smashing him in, smashing him in the face, 15:06.605 --> 15:08.540 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% breaking his glasses. 15:08.574 --> 15:09.775 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% Kind of black eye. 15:11.610 --> 15:13.712 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% I just thought, "You know, he's just going to be, 15:13.746 --> 15:15.547 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% he's going to be a problem." 15:15.581 --> 15:18.817 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% And then, you know, get with the other staff, 15:18.851 --> 15:20.452 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% and they were, like, "Yeah, you know, 15:20.486 --> 15:21.453 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% something's going on." 15:21.487 --> 15:24.423 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 15:24.456 --> 15:25.691 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: LaFromboise reached out 15:25.724 --> 15:28.294 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% to the region's top IHS official, 15:28.327 --> 15:30.796 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% who summoned the hospital's acting clinical director, 15:30.829 --> 15:32.331 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% Randy Rottenbiller, 15:32.364 --> 15:34.066 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% to his office in Billings. 15:34.099 --> 15:36.468 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> He said, "You know, I'm concerned 15:36.502 --> 15:39.705 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% "that you have a pedophile on your staff, 15:39.738 --> 15:43.409 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% and, and you need to get rid of him." 15:43.442 --> 15:47.446 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 15:47.479 --> 15:51.917 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And so I just said, "Okay, I've got to deal with this task." 15:51.951 --> 15:54.920 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 15:54.954 --> 15:59.024 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% The first thing I did when I got back to Browning was, 15:59.058 --> 16:02.761 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% called him and asked him to meet me in my office. 16:02.795 --> 16:07.066 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% And I said, "Well, I've been told that you need to leave." 16:08.834 --> 16:13.772 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% And he said that he had had some threats made against him, 16:13.806 --> 16:17.076 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% and he was worried about his life, 16:17.109 --> 16:21.447 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and he was getting ready to leave Browning anyway. 16:21.480 --> 16:26.251 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And I think he packed up and left the next day. 16:28.687 --> 16:31.590 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% I guess the better response would be, 16:31.623 --> 16:34.793 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% launch an investigation. 16:34.827 --> 16:38.197 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% And, and yet the IHS response is typically 16:38.230 --> 16:41.500 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% to sweep it under the rug, or, you know, 16:41.533 --> 16:43.369 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% or pass it on to some other place. 16:47.573 --> 16:50.075 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: The IHS would transfer Dr. Weber 16:50.109 --> 16:52.811 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% to its hospital on the Pine Ridge Reservation 16:52.845 --> 16:53.779 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% in South Dakota. 16:56.682 --> 16:59.351 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> WEAVER: The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation 16:59.385 --> 17:01.253 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5% is notoriously one of the poorest places 17:01.286 --> 17:02.321 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% in the United States. 17:04.556 --> 17:06.525 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% The public health situation is dire; 17:06.558 --> 17:09.962 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% life expectancy is among the very lowest in the country. 17:33.619 --> 17:34.887 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> NARRATOR: But within months, 17:34.920 --> 17:37.589 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% a parent was already complaining that Dr. Weber 17:37.623 --> 17:39.892 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% had inappropriately examined a child. 17:39.925 --> 17:44.096 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% The IHS took him off clinical duties 17:44.129 --> 17:46.799 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% as federal authorities looked into it. 17:46.832 --> 17:49.301 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% They didn't substantiate the complaint, 17:49.334 --> 17:51.437 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and Dr. Weber went back to work. 17:53.205 --> 17:57.042 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% But as in Montana, Weber's interactions with boys 17:57.076 --> 18:01.013 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% continued to raise suspicions. 18:01.046 --> 18:03.415 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Kelly Brewer was a nurse 18:03.449 --> 18:05.517 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% who lived across the street from him. 18:05.551 --> 18:08.520 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> The tan house straight ahead, 18:08.554 --> 18:12.791 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% that was Dr. Weber's house. 18:12.825 --> 18:17.029 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% And then back here was where Dr. Weber's garden used to be. 18:17.062 --> 18:20.165 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% Like, all this area here, where it's kind of mulched, 18:20.199 --> 18:22.601 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% that was all garden. 18:22.634 --> 18:25.104 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% He hired kids to work in it all the time, 18:25.137 --> 18:30.909 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65% and they were always young Native American boys, 18:30.943 --> 18:32.678 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% ten-ish to 12-ish in age. 18:34.680 --> 18:35.948 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> NARRATOR: The kids coming and going 18:35.981 --> 18:38.217 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% would earn a nickname around the reservation. 19:15.921 --> 19:17.222 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: One of the so-called Weber boys 19:17.256 --> 19:19.825 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% was named Paul. 19:19.858 --> 19:22.060 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Like Joe Four Horns in Montana, 19:22.094 --> 19:24.930 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% he is now in prison, serving time for assault. 19:59.298 --> 20:01.500 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% (thunder rumbling) 20:01.533 --> 20:05.437 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% (noise buzzing on phone line) 20:05.470 --> 20:08.006 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> NARRATOR: Paul says that in exchange for sexual favors, 20:08.040 --> 20:11.410 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% Weber would give him money or prescription drugs. 20:11.443 --> 20:12.711 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% Like the other boys, 20:12.744 --> 20:16.682 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% he kept his encounters a secret year after year. 20:31.396 --> 20:35.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: One night, he says, he pushed back. 21:28.654 --> 21:29.921 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% (woman talking on police radio) 21:29.955 --> 21:32.591 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> NARRATOR: Tribal police officer Dan Hudspeth 21:32.624 --> 21:33.925 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% was called to the scene. 21:33.959 --> 21:37.663 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% >> Call came in, there was an assault. 21:37.696 --> 21:40.499 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% We chased the suspect down, located him 21:40.532 --> 21:44.403 align:left position:35%,start line:5% size:55% not too far from the IHS housing. 21:44.436 --> 21:48.040 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% We took him into custody, sent him on to juvenile detention. 21:50.475 --> 21:53.378 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: As Hudspeth took Paul to juvenile detention, 21:53.412 --> 21:55.514 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% he asked him what was going on. 22:15.400 --> 22:18.737 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> NARRATOR: The authorities now had a firsthand allegation 22:18.770 --> 22:21.473 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% of ongoing sexual abuse by Weber. 22:23.909 --> 22:25.377 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% But on the reservation, 22:25.410 --> 22:27.979 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% the tribal authorities don't have jurisdiction 22:28.013 --> 22:29.848 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% over non-Indians. 22:29.881 --> 22:32.551 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% So all Officer Hudspeth could do 22:32.584 --> 22:34.753 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% was pass along Paul's allegations 22:34.786 --> 22:37.556 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% to federal investigators. 22:37.589 --> 22:39.191 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> We forward it on to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, 22:39.224 --> 22:40.859 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% criminal investigations, 22:40.892 --> 22:44.196 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% but I'm not quite sure how they ran with it. 22:44.229 --> 22:48.200 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% All I do know is, personally, I took... 22:48.233 --> 22:51.069 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I made sure my, my kids weren't seen anymore 22:51.103 --> 22:53.071 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% by that pediatrician. 22:54.673 --> 22:56.274 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: The Bureau of Indian Affairs 22:56.308 --> 22:57.709 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% declined to comment, 22:57.743 --> 23:00.078 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% and Paul says no one from the federal government 23:00.112 --> 23:01.613 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% followed up with him. 23:01.646 --> 23:04.750 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% He kept quiet about what had happened after that. 23:04.783 --> 23:09.921 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% At the IHS hospital, one of Weber's fellow pediatricians 23:09.955 --> 23:12.991 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% was developing his own concerns. 23:13.024 --> 23:15.427 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% >> I'd hear him riffing through my charts 23:15.460 --> 23:18.296 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5% cherry-picking the, the cute teenage boys. 23:18.330 --> 23:19.998 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% So at that point, 23:20.031 --> 23:22.901 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I started having some suspicions about him. 23:22.934 --> 23:26.605 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% He didn't like seeing babies, didn't like seeing toddlers, 23:26.638 --> 23:29.941 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% didn't like seeing girls, didn't like seeing teenage girls. 23:29.975 --> 23:31.743 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% So, so just professionally, 23:31.777 --> 23:33.578 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% I just kept butting heads with this guy. 23:33.612 --> 23:36.214 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% But I couldn't get anybody on the medical staff 23:36.248 --> 23:38.717 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% to listen to me. 24:28.066 --> 24:30.936 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: In November 2006, 24:30.969 --> 24:33.839 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Paul did something that made it harder to look the other way. 24:36.541 --> 24:39.945 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% He wouldn't discuss the details over the prison phone line, 24:39.978 --> 24:42.080 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% but he had one of his friends on the reservation 24:42.113 --> 24:43.982 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% recount what happened. 24:44.015 --> 24:48.220 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% Henry Red Cloud says he, Paul, and another friend 24:48.253 --> 24:50.555 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% were out drinking and looking for trouble 24:50.589 --> 24:53.925 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% and then ran out of money. 24:53.959 --> 24:55.393 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> All of a sudden, you know, Paul is, like, 24:55.427 --> 24:56.995 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% "You know, man, dog," 24:57.028 --> 24:59.297 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% he was, like, "Let's just go over to (bleep) doctor's house, 24:59.331 --> 25:01.333 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% man, that (bleep) (inaudible), man." 25:01.366 --> 25:02.868 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% I can't remember 25:02.901 --> 25:04.369 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% if he was (bleep) calling him a child molester 25:04.402 --> 25:05.904 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% or something like that. 25:05.937 --> 25:08.840 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% I can't remember, but I think I heard something like that. 25:08.874 --> 25:12.043 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% Paul had it out for Weber. 25:12.077 --> 25:14.980 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% Maybe it was just because of their little dealings. 25:15.013 --> 25:16.982 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And I thought it was (bleep) up, too, 25:17.015 --> 25:19.718 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% 'cause he was my doctor and (bleep). 25:19.751 --> 25:21.319 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I knew of several people that used to go 25:21.353 --> 25:22.287 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% and get money from him. 25:25.991 --> 25:28.059 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% So we went up there, we parked. 25:28.093 --> 25:33.265 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% As soon as he opened the door, I just kicked the door. 25:34.900 --> 25:36.835 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% He staggered back, and he dropped, 25:36.868 --> 25:39.504 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% and then I kicked him a few times, 25:39.538 --> 25:41.540 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% hit him a few times, 25:41.573 --> 25:43.041 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% and threw him into the kitchen area. 25:43.074 --> 25:44.910 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% And then he was fumbling around, 25:44.943 --> 25:47.946 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and he started walking towards the back into that bathroom, 25:47.979 --> 25:49.314 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and Dr. Weber was sitting there 25:49.347 --> 25:51.283 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% looking at himself in the mirror. 25:51.316 --> 25:57.055 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% His eyes were (bleeped) up, bloody mouth, bloody nose. 25:57.088 --> 25:59.157 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% He was pretty well done for, man. 26:01.326 --> 26:03.495 align:left position:40%,start line:83% size:50% I said, "You better get that money," 26:03.528 --> 26:05.530 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% so he pulled out a couple hund. 26:05.564 --> 26:08.800 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% And then he was, like, "Here, here, here, here you go, 26:08.833 --> 26:10.735 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% take it, take it." 26:10.769 --> 26:12.270 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% He said, "Just don't kill me." 26:17.175 --> 26:20.278 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> NARRATOR: Dr. Weber made his way to the IHS hospital. 26:20.312 --> 26:23.882 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% Bill Pourier, the hospital's C.E.O., 26:23.915 --> 26:25.183 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% says security guards called him 26:25.216 --> 26:28.353 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% and said one of his doctors had been assaulted. 26:28.386 --> 26:30.055 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% >> So I went up there. 26:30.088 --> 26:32.424 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And Dr. Weber was laying on a, on a gurney 26:32.457 --> 26:34.025 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% in the, in the emergency room. 26:34.059 --> 26:38.229 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% He looked rather beaten up and traumatized and so forth. 26:38.263 --> 26:40.732 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% So I asked him, "What's going on here?" 26:40.765 --> 26:42.968 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% I said, "Who did this to you?" 26:43.001 --> 26:44.569 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% He wouldn't tell me. 26:44.603 --> 26:45.971 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% He wouldn't say nothing. 26:46.004 --> 26:47.138 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> WEAVER: He wouldn't say anything at all? 26:47.172 --> 26:48.773 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% >> He wouldn't say nothing. 26:48.807 --> 26:50.241 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% And it was frustrating. 26:52.544 --> 26:54.946 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: Pourier says that he reported what happened 26:54.980 --> 26:56.982 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% to IHS's regional headquarters, 26:57.015 --> 27:00.085 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% but that his bosses never pursued the matter, 27:00.118 --> 27:03.722 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% and he was afraid to take it any further. 27:03.755 --> 27:05.724 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> I probably would have been suspended, maybe even fired. 27:05.757 --> 27:10.562 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% You know, pretty much, they can do what they want with you. 27:12.397 --> 27:16.167 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> When he was beaten to the point of needing skull X-rays, 27:16.201 --> 27:18.169 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% and no charges were filed 27:18.203 --> 27:19.571 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5% for beating up a commissioned officer 27:19.604 --> 27:21.873 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% on federal grounds 27:21.906 --> 27:24.442 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% to the point where he needed skull films, 27:24.476 --> 27:26.878 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5% I thought, "What on Earth is going on? 27:26.911 --> 27:29.547 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% What kind of cover-up is this?" 27:29.581 --> 27:33.018 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% I mean, this involves a lot of people in a lot of high places. 27:39.624 --> 27:42.027 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: Outraged, Dr. Butterbrodt 27:42.060 --> 27:44.262 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% would become increasingly fixated 27:44.295 --> 27:45.930 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% on exposing Dr. Weber. 28:14.259 --> 28:18.963 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> I think a lot of people thought I was overreacting. 28:18.997 --> 28:23.735 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And people would say to me, "You don't have any real evidence." 28:23.768 --> 28:26.037 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% And that was always the Indian Health Service line, too. 28:26.071 --> 28:28.273 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% You know, "We've looked at the data bank, 28:28.306 --> 28:30.642 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% "there's no complaints on him. 28:30.675 --> 28:32.377 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55% He's clean." 28:35.847 --> 28:39.050 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% And I learned that there was a psychologist 28:39.084 --> 28:41.553 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% who had worked with him at Browning, 28:41.586 --> 28:46.791 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% and was aware of his activities in Browning, Montana, 28:46.825 --> 28:49.861 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5% prior to 1995, when he came here. 28:51.496 --> 28:53.798 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: It was Dan and Becky Foster, 28:53.832 --> 28:55.667 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% who'd had concerns about Weber's behavior 28:55.700 --> 28:58.236 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% on the Blackfeet Reservation. 28:58.269 --> 29:01.039 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> FROSCH: When Mark is telling you guys, 29:01.072 --> 29:04.075 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% basically saying, that crimes have been committed, 29:04.109 --> 29:07.479 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% how did that make you guys feel? 29:07.512 --> 29:12.917 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> Well, I think it... I think we just... 29:12.951 --> 29:16.821 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% So you get to be just so angry and frustrated 29:16.855 --> 29:18.990 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% and then just kind of numb. 29:19.023 --> 29:23.895 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Because part of what happens is that you can see 29:23.928 --> 29:27.999 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% all of these young people being hurt, 29:28.032 --> 29:30.769 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and knowing that you've tried to do everything 29:30.802 --> 29:33.338 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% that you could do within the bounds 29:33.371 --> 29:36.107 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% of what's available to you, 29:36.141 --> 29:39.744 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% and then nothing happens. 29:39.778 --> 29:44.916 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% It says to me as a... Indian woman, as a mother, 29:44.949 --> 29:47.118 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% is that your kids don't matter. 29:49.053 --> 29:52.590 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> I felt deeply hurt and very angry. 29:52.624 --> 29:57.796 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% The anger was because I felt it was preventable. 29:57.829 --> 30:00.298 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> NARRATOR: In fact, years earlier, 30:00.331 --> 30:03.902 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% Dan Foster had heard Weber was working at Pine Ridge 30:03.935 --> 30:07.739 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and contacted IHS leaders there to warn them. 30:07.772 --> 30:09.774 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> FROSCH: Would you have said, in as explicit terms, 30:09.808 --> 30:11.276 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% "I'm worried this guy is a pedophile"? 30:11.309 --> 30:12.277 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% >> Yes. 30:12.310 --> 30:14.579 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% Oh, I was clear. 30:14.612 --> 30:17.081 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% My concerns was that this man was sexually using children. 30:21.853 --> 30:23.454 align:left position:35%,start line:5% size:55% >> NARRATOR: After the encounter, 30:23.488 --> 30:25.924 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% Dr. Butterbrodt was more determined than ever 30:25.957 --> 30:28.660 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% that Weber had to go. 30:28.693 --> 30:32.030 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% He complained to state medical boards and officials at the IHS. 30:34.666 --> 30:36.668 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% And he believed he'd finally found proof 30:36.701 --> 30:39.771 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% in a list of patients Weber had ordered tests on. 30:42.574 --> 30:46.344 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> So I looked at these charts, and there weren't any girls. 30:47.545 --> 30:49.180 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% They were all boys. 30:49.214 --> 30:54.686 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% On this page, there are 14 patients, 30:54.719 --> 30:55.954 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% and there's one female. 30:55.987 --> 30:57.355 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5% One out of 14. 30:59.057 --> 31:03.428 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% I kept asking myself, "Why would a pediatrician 31:03.461 --> 31:04.863 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% "zero in on a population 31:04.896 --> 31:10.401 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% consisting of normal-weight boys and teenage boys?" 31:10.435 --> 31:15.440 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% It just seemed incomprehensible to me. 31:18.343 --> 31:19.544 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: Dr. Weber was suspended 31:19.577 --> 31:22.747 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% while the allegations were investigated. 31:22.780 --> 31:24.015 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> WEAVER: When Dr. Weber was suspended 31:24.048 --> 31:25.416 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% by the Indian Health Service 31:25.450 --> 31:28.786 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% over allegations of misconduct in 2009, 31:28.820 --> 31:31.289 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65% one of the officials who was sent to look into this 31:31.322 --> 31:33.124 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% was this guy Ron Keats. 31:33.157 --> 31:35.059 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: Keats-- who was one of Weber's superiors 31:35.093 --> 31:36.594 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5% at the time-- 31:36.628 --> 31:39.464 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% would soon leave the IHS under a cloud himself, 31:39.497 --> 31:41.666 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% and later be convicted 31:41.699 --> 31:43.568 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% of possession of child pornography. 31:43.601 --> 31:46.804 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> WEAVER: So effectively, they sent a guy 31:46.838 --> 31:48.806 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% who would go on to be arrested a year later 31:48.840 --> 31:50.708 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% of trafficking in child porn 31:50.742 --> 31:52.076 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% to investigate suspicions 31:52.110 --> 31:54.612 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that their pediatrician could be a pedophile. 31:54.646 --> 31:59.083 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> NARRATOR: Keats did not respond to requests for comment. 31:59.117 --> 32:02.120 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% Weber was ultimately cleared and went back to work, 32:02.153 --> 32:03.721 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% according to Bill Pourier. 32:05.390 --> 32:09.360 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> The higher-ups, I guess, basically told me there was... 32:09.394 --> 32:11.629 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% They couldn't find one reason to keep him on suspension. 32:11.663 --> 32:12.697 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% There was no facts or evidence 32:12.730 --> 32:15.300 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% to support what happened and so forth, 32:15.333 --> 32:16.801 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% and that's pretty much what they gave me, 32:16.834 --> 32:18.069 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% the answer they gave me. 32:18.102 --> 32:20.939 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% So we just... directed me to put him back to work. 32:20.972 --> 32:22.273 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> WEAVER: At that time, did you believe 32:22.307 --> 32:25.310 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% that Dr. Weber was, you know, potentially engaged 32:25.343 --> 32:27.245 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% in some kind of misconduct towards children? 32:27.278 --> 32:28.513 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% >> I kind of felt 32:28.546 --> 32:32.016 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% that there could possibly be something going on here, 32:32.050 --> 32:32.984 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% 'cause I started looking at everything. 32:33.017 --> 32:35.687 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% But I just never got nothing. 32:35.720 --> 32:37.422 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% I was frustrated, as well. 32:41.059 --> 32:42.327 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: In the summer of 2010, 32:42.360 --> 32:44.262 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% at the Pine Ridge Hospital, 32:44.295 --> 32:46.965 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Weber and Dr. Butterbrodt would clash 32:46.998 --> 32:48.032 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% over the care of a patient. 32:50.301 --> 32:52.303 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% Dr. Weber claimed he was threatened. 32:52.337 --> 32:55.974 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> Within an hour, I'm sitting in the office 32:56.007 --> 32:59.377 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% of the acting clinical director in Pine Ridge. 32:59.410 --> 33:02.947 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% And finally, I said something really out of line. 33:02.981 --> 33:05.083 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% I said, "If I'd wanted to intimidate him, 33:05.116 --> 33:08.119 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% I would have cut his nuts off with a rusty knife." 33:08.152 --> 33:12.256 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% And that remark went right to Washington. 33:12.290 --> 33:16.961 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% I was branded as a violent, out-of-control person, 33:16.995 --> 33:20.498 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% and within a few weeks was traveling 33:20.531 --> 33:22.133 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% up to Belcourt, North Dakota, 33:22.166 --> 33:27.472 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% leaving my life and my career and my family, everything. 33:27.505 --> 33:30.708 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: The IHS sent Dr. Butterbrodt 33:30.742 --> 33:35.279 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% to one of its most remote outposts, 575 miles away, 33:35.313 --> 33:36.381 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% on the Canadian border. 33:38.049 --> 33:39.817 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> The nurses came up to me and said, 33:39.851 --> 33:42.220 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% "Now you know why we don't say anything, Dr. B. 33:42.253 --> 33:44.055 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Look what they've done to you." 33:44.088 --> 33:47.725 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% I was ordered to leave. 33:47.759 --> 33:50.128 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I was chased off by a pedophile 33:50.161 --> 33:55.833 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% and the people who chose him over me. 34:02.507 --> 34:04.542 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: Months later, 34:04.575 --> 34:08.012 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% a new IHS chief medical officer arrived in the region. 34:08.046 --> 34:10.448 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> You, know, it just seemed like the perfect storm of issues 34:10.481 --> 34:11.916 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% that kind of arose. 34:11.949 --> 34:15.586 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: Rod Cuny determined that Dr. Butterbrodt 34:15.620 --> 34:17.855 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% had been unfairly punished. 34:17.889 --> 34:19.891 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> You know, I credit Mark Butterbrodt, 34:19.924 --> 34:22.693 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% because he, I mean, he laid his career on the line 34:22.727 --> 34:25.430 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% in doing what he needed to do. 34:25.463 --> 34:29.100 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% Really, he did the right things, and, you know, 34:29.133 --> 34:31.169 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% and he's a direct result 34:31.202 --> 34:36.274 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% of people fearing would happen, what might happen to you. 34:36.307 --> 34:38.609 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% I mean, it happened to him, 34:38.643 --> 34:42.280 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% and that's why people didn't come forward like he did. 34:42.313 --> 34:45.583 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% And that's sad that that attitude has to prevail, 34:45.616 --> 34:49.520 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% but, you know, people are scared to come forward. 34:50.755 --> 34:53.458 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: Many of the officials who ran IHS 34:53.491 --> 34:55.426 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% during the years Dr. Weber was there 34:55.460 --> 34:57.095 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% declined to be interviewed. 34:57.128 --> 35:01.532 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% But reporter Chris Weaver tracked down Bob McSwain. 35:01.566 --> 35:03.668 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> WEAVER: Mr. McSwain? >> Yes. 35:03.701 --> 35:05.803 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> WEAVER: Hi, I'm Chris Weaver. 35:05.837 --> 35:08.106 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: He worked at the IHS for more than 40 years, 35:08.139 --> 35:09.874 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% including two stints as director. 35:09.907 --> 35:14.112 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% McSwain conceded the agency has long tolerated 35:14.145 --> 35:17.181 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% problem doctors like Weber. 35:17.215 --> 35:20.585 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> It goes back to the, the very heart of, 35:20.618 --> 35:23.955 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% they needed his skills, 35:23.988 --> 35:26.057 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% and so they, they moved him around 35:26.090 --> 35:29.494 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% to, to maintain his, his contribution. 35:29.527 --> 35:31.095 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% It's fair to say 35:31.129 --> 35:38.436 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% that because of the, the absolute need to fill positions, 35:38.469 --> 35:42.740 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% we don't really get the best of the best. 35:42.773 --> 35:46.377 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% We get someone who, um... 35:48.079 --> 35:49.413 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% They have a degree. 35:49.447 --> 35:50.715 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% (chuckles) 35:50.748 --> 35:53.951 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% They're licensed, and our requirement on licensing 35:53.985 --> 35:57.355 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% is at least licensed in one state in the system. 35:57.388 --> 36:00.892 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% There's a strange tolerance level, 36:00.925 --> 36:05.396 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% that, "Oh, okay, the guy's a, a womanizer, 36:05.429 --> 36:08.666 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% "or a guy's this, and a guy's that. 36:08.699 --> 36:13.671 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% But he comes in to see patients," okay? 36:13.704 --> 36:16.574 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% And the, the antithesis is, 36:16.607 --> 36:18.543 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% "What would it be if he didn't come in? 36:18.576 --> 36:22.146 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% Who's going to see the patients?" 36:25.116 --> 36:26.450 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> I'm going to call the hearing to order. 36:26.484 --> 36:28.219 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% This is a hearing of the Indian Affairs Committee. 36:28.252 --> 36:31.556 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> NARRATOR: In 2010, the dysfunction at the IHS 36:31.589 --> 36:34.158 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% got attention in Washington, 36:34.192 --> 36:36.994 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% at the Senate's Indian Affairs Committee. 36:37.028 --> 36:40.464 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65% Senator Byron Dorgan was chairman at the time. 36:40.498 --> 36:42.033 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% >> We got a couple of employees here that are trouble. 36:42.066 --> 36:46.070 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% And not only does the employee not get disciplined, 36:46.103 --> 36:48.339 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% but the employee gets a bonus. 36:48.372 --> 36:49.707 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% We found people who were transferred 36:49.740 --> 36:52.476 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% from one to the other, despite the fact 36:52.510 --> 36:54.612 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% that there were allegations of drug misuse, 36:54.645 --> 36:57.148 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% stealing, sexual abuse, 36:57.181 --> 36:59.417 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% inappropriate behavior, 36:59.450 --> 37:01.786 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% a whole series of things that would, 37:01.819 --> 37:04.989 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% in almost every other circumstance in life, 37:05.022 --> 37:08.359 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% require you to discharge someone, fire someone. 37:08.392 --> 37:11.028 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% Instead, the Indian Health Service moves them, 37:11.062 --> 37:12.563 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% they transfer them, 37:12.597 --> 37:13.798 align:left position:32.5%,start line:83% size:57.5% they move them to the next service unit. 37:13.831 --> 37:15.333 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% And, "Let's have somebody else 37:15.366 --> 37:16.968 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% live with the, the incompetence and the mistakes." 37:17.001 --> 37:19.737 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% This system is not working-- this isn't working. 37:19.770 --> 37:23.574 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% We tried to browbeat the IHS in every way we knew how 37:23.608 --> 37:24.709 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% to get them to straighten out. 37:24.742 --> 37:27.411 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% And they just seemed impervious to improvement, 37:27.445 --> 37:29.247 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and they could not get it right. 37:34.986 --> 37:37.455 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: In the case of Dr. Weber, 37:37.488 --> 37:42.226 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% warnings continued to go unheeded for years. 37:42.260 --> 37:46.030 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% In 2011, one of them reached Wehnona Stabler, 37:46.063 --> 37:48.566 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% then the C.E.O. of the Pine Ridge Hospital. 37:48.599 --> 37:51.736 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% She says a caller complained about Dr. Weber, 37:51.769 --> 37:54.538 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% but didn't provide her any specifics. 37:54.572 --> 37:57.475 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% The matter never went anywhere. 37:57.508 --> 38:02.046 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% Stabler later received a gift of $5,000 from Dr. Weber 38:02.079 --> 38:03.581 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% and would plead guilty to not reporting it 38:03.614 --> 38:06.284 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% on a government ethics form. 38:06.317 --> 38:08.953 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% She didn't respond to requests for comment. 38:10.855 --> 38:15.393 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% Then, one day in 2015, it all started to unravel. 38:17.561 --> 38:19.330 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% A tribal prosecutor recalled something 38:19.363 --> 38:23.034 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% Dr. Mark Butterbrodt had told her years before. 38:23.067 --> 38:26.604 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5% >> Mark and I are really good friends. 38:26.637 --> 38:29.073 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65% I've known him since I was in high school, so... 38:29.106 --> 38:31.509 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% He was frustrated, I remember, one day, 38:31.542 --> 38:35.846 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and he told me about Dr. Weber and how he was molesting kids. 38:39.784 --> 38:42.019 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I was driving to work, and there was snow on the ground 38:42.053 --> 38:43.888 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% when I was thinking about the case. 38:45.823 --> 38:48.259 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% And I was, like, "I wonder if the attorney general 38:48.292 --> 38:49.226 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% even heard about this." 38:51.062 --> 38:53.898 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> She just asked, "There's some leads that I have on this. 38:53.931 --> 38:56.300 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% Can I start looking into this and seeing what I can find?" 38:56.334 --> 38:57.635 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% So I said, "Absolutely. 38:57.668 --> 38:59.937 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% "If you can find something, let's track it down, 38:59.970 --> 39:01.572 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and we'll take that information forward." 39:03.641 --> 39:07.044 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: As in the past, it was hard to get anyone to talk. 39:09.180 --> 39:12.717 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> Weber's alleged victims are all boys. 39:12.750 --> 39:14.552 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So, you know, it's even that much harder 39:14.585 --> 39:18.189 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to get a, a boy or a man to speak about sexual abuse. 39:18.222 --> 39:20.858 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% So I think trust is a big thing. 39:20.891 --> 39:23.127 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% >> We felt it was a priority 39:23.160 --> 39:25.730 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% to at least identify a potential victim, 39:25.763 --> 39:27.665 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% so that it wouldn't be dismissed anymore, 39:27.698 --> 39:30.034 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% so that it would be taken seriously, 39:30.067 --> 39:32.103 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and a full investigation would happen. 39:35.272 --> 39:38.709 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> NARRATOR: They began to look into the assault on Dr. Weber 39:38.743 --> 39:41.479 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% a decade earlier. 39:41.512 --> 39:44.081 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> I learned that he was beat up really bad. 39:44.115 --> 39:48.586 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% That he was so beaten that he had to get MRIs done. 39:48.619 --> 39:50.321 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% What I think people should've noticed 39:50.354 --> 39:52.590 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% was that he didn't press any charges on anybody. 39:52.623 --> 39:56.527 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> And those whole circumstances just looked, um, odd. 39:56.560 --> 39:57.928 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% There was something not right about that. 39:57.962 --> 40:01.332 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> And I did go looking for that police report, 40:01.365 --> 40:03.134 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% 'cause if he was beat up so bad, you know, 40:03.167 --> 40:07.338 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the ambulances should have came, police officers should've came, 40:07.371 --> 40:10.941 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% but... I couldn't find anything. 40:12.209 --> 40:14.011 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: After months of searching, 40:14.044 --> 40:16.013 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% she found a woman who said she knew the boys 40:16.046 --> 40:17.214 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5% who'd done it. 40:17.248 --> 40:20.017 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> But she didn't give me much detail. 40:20.050 --> 40:21.585 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% She just said, "Yeah, they came to me that night 40:21.619 --> 40:22.953 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% after they beat up Dr. Weber." 40:24.622 --> 40:25.923 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% She gave me the name of one of them. 40:25.956 --> 40:28.526 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% And I was, like, "All right, fine, 40:28.559 --> 40:30.694 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I have this one name to go on." 40:30.728 --> 40:33.798 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% We found out he was in prison, state prison. 40:33.831 --> 40:38.202 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% >> NARRATOR: It was Paul. 40:38.235 --> 40:41.238 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% By then in his late 20s. 40:58.489 --> 41:02.626 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> And after we received that information, 41:02.660 --> 41:06.197 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% we provided that, that potential victim's name 41:06.230 --> 41:08.232 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% to the Bureau of Indian Affairs. 41:15.406 --> 41:17.741 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> NARRATOR: Federal investigators followed the trail 41:17.775 --> 41:20.344 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% the tribal authorities had uncovered. 41:20.377 --> 41:25.149 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% It started with Paul's name and led to Dr. Weber's door. 42:57.608 --> 42:58.976 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> NARRATOR: The years of accusations 42:59.009 --> 43:00.477 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% had finally caught up with Dr. Weber. 43:02.980 --> 43:04.615 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% Federal prosecutors would charge him 43:04.648 --> 43:07.585 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% with the abuse of four boys on Pine Ridge 43:07.618 --> 43:10.487 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and two on the Blackfeet Reservation in Montana. 43:13.824 --> 43:16.894 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% In September 2018, more than two decades 43:16.927 --> 43:20.497 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% after he was forced off the Blackfeet Reservation, 43:20.531 --> 43:22.833 align:left position:27.5%,start line:5% size:62.5% Dr. Weber arrived at the courthouse 43:22.866 --> 43:25.469 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% in Great Falls, Montana, to stand trial. 43:25.502 --> 43:29.573 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% The first witness was Joe Four Horns. 43:31.542 --> 43:34.745 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% Now 35 years old. 43:34.778 --> 43:39.717 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> FROSCH: In walks Joe, and he is this muscle-bound guy, 43:39.750 --> 43:42.119 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% tattoos on his face, 43:42.152 --> 43:44.555 align:left position:37.5%,start line:5% size:52.5% shackled. 43:44.588 --> 43:45.522 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% Very tough-looking guy. 43:48.125 --> 43:50.761 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% The prosecutor, in her opening statement, 43:50.794 --> 43:53.163 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% she puts up a picture of Joe Four Horns 43:53.197 --> 43:54.999 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% when he was about ten or 11 years old, 43:55.032 --> 43:56.467 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% right around the time 43:56.500 --> 44:00.004 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% that he would have been abused by Dr. Weber. 44:00.037 --> 44:03.273 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% She wants the jury to remember this little boy. 44:03.307 --> 44:06.977 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: Recording was not allowed in the court; 44:07.011 --> 44:10.814 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% this is the trial testimony voiced by actors. 44:10.848 --> 44:12.282 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% >> Can I call you Joe? 44:12.316 --> 44:13.384 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% >> Yeah. 44:13.417 --> 44:14.918 align:left position:37.5%,start line:83% size:52.5% >> FROSCH: Joe answers their questions. 44:14.952 --> 44:16.920 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% It's clear he does not want to be on the stand. 44:16.954 --> 44:19.590 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% >> Did he ever kiss you? 44:19.623 --> 44:20.591 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% >> Yeah. 44:20.624 --> 44:22.593 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% >> Where did he kiss you? 44:22.626 --> 44:26.864 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> The lips, my face, my neck, and my chest. 44:26.897 --> 44:30.934 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> Did he touch any other part of your body with his hand? 44:30.968 --> 44:32.603 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% >> Yeah, my penis. 44:32.636 --> 44:37.508 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> FROSCH: Dr. Weber is sitting there, emotionless... 44:37.541 --> 44:39.276 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Did you ever touch his penis? 44:39.309 --> 44:40.310 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% >> FROSCH: Placid... 44:40.344 --> 44:42.312 align:left position:32.5%,start line:89% size:57.5% >> Yeah, yes. 44:42.346 --> 44:45.082 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% >> Why did you do that? 44:45.115 --> 44:48.485 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% >> Because he told me to. 44:48.519 --> 44:50.988 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> FROSCH: He looks more like the little boy on the screen 44:51.021 --> 44:55.726 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% than he does the hardened felon that is sitting there. 44:55.759 --> 44:58.495 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% He's talking about the most humiliating thing 44:58.529 --> 45:00.030 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% that he could ever imagine talking about. 45:00.064 --> 45:03.801 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% He breaks down crying. 45:06.537 --> 45:08.472 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: Dr. Weber's attorney questioned 45:08.505 --> 45:11.775 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% why Joe had never spoken up before. 45:11.809 --> 45:16.814 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> FROSCH: Joe reacts in a way that undercuts 45:16.847 --> 45:19.216 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% the defense's entire sort of line of questioning. 45:19.249 --> 45:23.120 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> Right now, I don't want to talk about this. 45:23.153 --> 45:25.456 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% I don't ever want to talk about that. 45:25.489 --> 45:28.759 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> FROSCH: And explained in really sort of honest, 45:28.792 --> 45:30.527 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% gut-wrenching, visceral terms, 45:30.561 --> 45:32.596 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% why he had never told anybody about this. 45:32.629 --> 45:35.466 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% >> I got molested as a little kid, man, 45:35.499 --> 45:38.936 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I don't want to talk about that. 45:38.969 --> 45:42.206 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% All right, I'll tell you the truth: Those pieces of (bleep), 45:42.239 --> 45:45.776 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% those child molesters, they deserve to be in prison. 45:45.809 --> 45:47.978 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% They don't deserve to be on the street. 45:48.011 --> 45:49.780 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% They deserve to get (bleep) (bleep) up 45:49.813 --> 45:51.915 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% and (bleep) killed in prison. 45:51.949 --> 45:55.819 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And that's what's going to happen. 45:55.853 --> 45:57.688 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> FROSCH: So during his testimony, 45:57.721 --> 45:59.623 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and as he began sort of discussing in detail 45:59.656 --> 46:00.858 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% what had happened to him, 46:00.891 --> 46:05.195 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% his mom had to leave the courtroom in tears. 46:05.229 --> 46:08.031 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: Marion Four Horns had lost custody of her son 46:08.065 --> 46:10.167 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% during those years. 46:10.200 --> 46:12.136 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% >> I never knew about any of this. 46:12.169 --> 46:15.272 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% And I feel bad for my boy, 46:15.305 --> 46:19.376 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% because I wasn't able to protect him. 46:19.409 --> 46:22.179 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% I feel, I really feel... 46:22.212 --> 46:24.681 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% (sobbing) 46:30.721 --> 46:35.692 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% I really hurt for him, I don't know what to do. 46:37.961 --> 46:39.062 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55% (sniffling) 46:44.234 --> 46:46.336 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: The extent of the allegations against Dr. Weber 46:46.370 --> 46:49.907 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% would begin to emerge as the trial unfolded, 46:49.940 --> 46:51.909 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% with more men describing 46:51.942 --> 46:54.244 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% what they said he'd done to them as boys. 46:54.278 --> 46:56.046 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% >> FROSCH: The prosecution 46:56.079 --> 46:58.348 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% brings several corroborating witnesses 46:58.382 --> 46:59.349 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% from Pine Ridge. 46:59.383 --> 47:04.721 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% And as was the case with Joe, 47:04.755 --> 47:06.890 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% you see these tough guys sort of reduced to little boys. 47:10.027 --> 47:12.596 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> NARRATOR: Despite the testimony against him, 47:12.629 --> 47:15.432 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Dr. Weber continued to shrug off the allegations. 47:15.465 --> 47:17.367 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% >> It's a nice day today. 47:17.401 --> 47:18.969 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% Nice sunny day. 47:19.002 --> 47:20.938 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: On the third day of the trial, 47:20.971 --> 47:23.140 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% the jury came back with its verdict: 47:23.173 --> 47:26.877 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% guilty on multiple counts of sexual abuse. 47:28.979 --> 47:31.348 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% Weber is appealing, and later this year, 47:31.381 --> 47:33.684 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% he's scheduled to go on trial in South Dakota 47:33.717 --> 47:35.118 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% for alleged abuses there. 47:38.956 --> 47:40.958 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% >> I'm very glad that he was caught. 47:40.991 --> 47:44.595 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% I still am frustrated that he was allowed to work for so long 47:44.628 --> 47:46.163 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% in that environment. 47:46.196 --> 47:48.065 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% I think I'm still frustrated 47:48.098 --> 47:51.468 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% that more people haven't been charged criminally. 47:51.501 --> 47:55.606 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> There was obviously a lot of people 47:55.639 --> 47:59.543 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% that knew something was going on. 47:59.576 --> 48:01.979 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% And they didn't do anything. 48:02.012 --> 48:03.313 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% (sniffles) 48:03.347 --> 48:06.049 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55% They just... 48:06.083 --> 48:09.553 align:left position:35%,start line:89% size:55% let him go. 48:09.586 --> 48:12.122 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% (sniffles) 48:12.155 --> 48:14.124 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I feel like somebody should pay 48:14.157 --> 48:19.796 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% for, for what all these boys went through, 48:19.830 --> 48:23.567 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% because people knew. 48:26.570 --> 48:28.605 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% >> NARRATOR: To date, no one else in the IHS 48:28.639 --> 48:30.774 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% has been held accountable. 48:30.807 --> 48:34.144 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% And many of the officials who oversaw Dr. Weber 48:34.177 --> 48:37.314 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% did not respond to requests for comment. 48:37.347 --> 48:38.682 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% But following questions 48:38.715 --> 48:41.318 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% from "Frontline" and "The Wall Street Journal," 48:41.351 --> 48:44.354 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% the agency ordered an independent investigation 48:44.388 --> 48:45.589 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% of Weber's tenure. 48:47.791 --> 48:51.461 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The current head of IHS agreed to talk about it 48:51.495 --> 48:54.831 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and asked to do the interview at the hospital on Pine Ridge 48:54.865 --> 48:57.501 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% where Weber had worked. 48:57.534 --> 48:59.937 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% >> Hello. 48:59.970 --> 49:01.738 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: Rear Admiral Michael Weahkee 49:01.772 --> 49:05.676 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% has been leading the agency since 2017. 49:05.709 --> 49:07.878 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> Since this case has came to light, 49:07.911 --> 49:11.114 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% we've been doing a lot of checking internally, 49:11.148 --> 49:13.517 align:left position:22.5%,start line:5% size:67.5% to, to see what people may or may not have known. 49:13.550 --> 49:16.954 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% If there are individuals who were aware 49:16.987 --> 49:18.989 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% that something was going on, 49:19.022 --> 49:23.226 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% then you're basically culpable and complicit in those actions. 49:23.260 --> 49:26.863 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% I'm in the process now of developing a new policy 49:26.897 --> 49:28.098 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% that will require 49:28.131 --> 49:29.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that every Indian Health Service employee 49:29.466 --> 49:30.434 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% be a mandatory reporter. 49:30.467 --> 49:33.003 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% >> WEAVER: Of what? 49:33.036 --> 49:37.607 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> Of any potential child abuse, any sexual assaults, 49:37.641 --> 49:41.278 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% any, anything potentially criminal in nature. 49:41.311 --> 49:44.681 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> WEAVER: And what would be a satisfying resolution 49:44.715 --> 49:46.717 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% to the crisis around the case of Dr. Weber? 49:48.118 --> 49:49.753 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% >> That he do his time. 49:49.786 --> 49:52.356 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% And that he pay for what he did. 49:55.325 --> 49:57.361 align:left position:42.5%,start line:89% size:47.5% Uh... 49:57.394 --> 50:01.431 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% He did a lot of damage to our agency. 50:01.465 --> 50:03.667 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% We've talked a lot about the difficulties we have 50:03.700 --> 50:05.869 align:left position:22.5%,start line:89% size:67.5% recruiting providers. 50:05.902 --> 50:07.637 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% This isn't going to help. 50:07.671 --> 50:09.906 align:left position:15%,start line:83% size:75% >> WEAVER: Where do you set the bar for yourself, 50:09.940 --> 50:13.310 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% in terms of leading the agency out of this crisis? 50:13.343 --> 50:14.678 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% >> I think the bar is extremely high. 50:14.711 --> 50:16.646 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% There are so many people depending upon us. 50:16.680 --> 50:18.281 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% My own family receives their health care 50:18.315 --> 50:19.616 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% through the Indian Health Service, 50:19.649 --> 50:23.086 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% so I go home every day and... 50:29.359 --> 50:31.928 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% (sniffles) 50:35.065 --> 50:38.301 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% (voice trembling): The expectation is to fix this. 50:40.871 --> 50:43.206 align:left position:27.5%,start line:89% size:62.5% (quietly): Sorry. 50:46.309 --> 50:50.981 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: In January 2019, Dr. Weber-- now 70 years old-- 50:51.014 --> 50:54.418 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% was sentenced to more than 18 years in prison. 50:57.788 --> 51:00.257 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% But haunting questions remain. 51:02.225 --> 51:03.693 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> You know, it doesn't sit well 51:03.727 --> 51:07.964 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that somebody like this monster came in 51:07.998 --> 51:10.467 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% and did what he did. 51:10.500 --> 51:14.971 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% You know, and I didn't do much to prevent it. 51:17.074 --> 51:18.041 align:left position:37.5%,start line:89% size:52.5% (exhales) 51:18.075 --> 51:20.844 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% I certainly could have done more. 51:24.281 --> 51:26.750 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> Well, at that time, you think of your career and your job 51:26.783 --> 51:28.652 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% and your livelihood, so I probably would have got fired. 51:28.685 --> 51:30.153 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% I guess that was the risk I would've took. 51:30.187 --> 51:32.589 align:left position:27.5%,start line:83% size:62.5% I couldn't afford to take the risk at that time, 51:32.622 --> 51:33.824 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% to lose my job. 51:34.891 --> 51:36.193 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% Do I feel responsible for it? 51:36.226 --> 51:38.695 align:left position:45%,start line:5% size:45% No. No. 51:40.864 --> 51:44.935 align:left position:17.5%,start line:83% size:72.5% >> I guess I have to blame the bureaucracy 51:44.968 --> 51:48.238 align:left position:17.5%,start line:89% size:72.5% of Indian Health Service. 51:48.271 --> 51:54.144 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% But I have to say, it was on my watch that happened. 51:54.177 --> 51:57.881 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% I should have known better, but I didn't. 52:01.118 --> 52:06.490 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% That, that's still hard for me to... kind of deal with. 52:07.491 --> 52:10.060 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 52:10.093 --> 52:12.162 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: After nearly 30 years, 52:12.195 --> 52:14.831 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% no one knows how many victims of Weber's abuse 52:14.865 --> 52:17.601 align:left position:25%,start line:89% size:65% are still out there, 52:17.634 --> 52:20.170 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% or how many other people in the Indian Health Service 52:20.203 --> 52:22.906 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% could have done more to stop him. 52:22.939 --> 52:27.277 align:left position:45%,start line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 52:33.650 --> 52:37.154 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% >> Go to pbs.org/frontline and wsj.com 52:37.187 --> 52:38.588 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% for the latest reporting on the story. 52:38.622 --> 52:40.524 align:left position:32.5%,start line:5% size:57.5% And learn more from the reporters 52:40.557 --> 52:43.026 align:left position:25%,start line:5% size:65% about investigating the Indian Health Service. 52:43.059 --> 52:45.562 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% >> We found a bunch of doctors with troubled track records 52:45.595 --> 52:48.398 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% before they joined the IHS or once they got there. 52:48.431 --> 52:49.933 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% >> Then, visit our watch page, 52:49.966 --> 52:53.603 align:left position:15%,start line:5% size:75% where you can view more than 200 "Frontline" documentaries. 52:53.637 --> 52:55.472 align:left position:17.5%,start line:5% size:72.5% Connect to the "Frontline" community 52:55.505 --> 52:57.140 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% on Facebook and Twitter, 52:57.174 --> 53:01.444 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% and sign up for our newsletter at pbs.org/frontline. 53:02.546 --> 53:04.381 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% >> NARRATOR: It was a landmark ruling-- 53:04.414 --> 53:07.050 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% thousands of New Yorkers with severe mental illness 53:07.083 --> 53:08.585 align:left position:35%,start line:5% size:55% had a right to live on their own... 53:08.618 --> 53:09.886 align:left position:15%,start line:89% size:75% >> There was a huge question 53:09.920 --> 53:11.855 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% about whether people that had been institutionalized 53:11.888 --> 53:14.357 align:left position:22.5%,start line:83% size:67.5% can live successfully in the community. 53:14.391 --> 53:15.659 align:left position:35%,start line:83% size:55% >> NARRATOR: ...and a right to fail. 53:15.692 --> 53:17.794 align:left position:12.5%,start line:83% size:77.5% >> They just brought me there and said, "Ta-da!" 53:17.827 --> 53:20.230 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% >> NARRATOR: "Frontline" and ProPublica investigate. 53:20.263 --> 53:21.932 align:left position:25%,start line:83% size:65% >> Did it feel like you were left alone? 53:21.965 --> 53:23.833 align:left position:12.5%,start line:89% size:77.5% >> I had no company, actually. 53:23.867 --> 53:27.704 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% >> The question is, when do you take away somebody's liberty? 53:59.703 --> 54:01.905 align:left position:12.5%,start line:5% size:77.5% >> For more on this and other "Frontline" programs, 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