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>> Hi, and welcome to 
this edition of "Connections." 
I'm P.A. Bennett.

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They were here before many of 
our ancestors, and they remain.

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Still, who they are as a people 
is shrouded in misconception

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and misunderstanding.

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The only image most of us have 
of the Native American

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is that of the warrior savage

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we've seen depicted 
in old TV and movie Westerns.

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There are thousands of Native 
Americans in South Carolina.

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Many of them proudly 
claim membership

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in a particular tribal group.

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>> We're not exactly White.

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We're not exactly Black.

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We're somewhere in between.

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Okay, now, the term other

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kind of bothers me tremendously,

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okay, because we're not other.

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Other would be like an alien.

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We're just a unique, 
individual people,

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and most everyone 
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they'll tell you the same thing 
in honesty.

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We beat to a different drummer.

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>> I'm Keith "Little Bear" 
Brown, Catawba Indian Nation.

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>> I'm Chief Anthony Davidson.

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I'm from Ridgeville, 
South Carolina.

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My tribe is Edisto 
Natchez-Kusso.

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>> I'm Chief Jan Lewindowsky.

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We're from the Sumter area.

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Our tribe is the Sumter 
Cheraw Indians.

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>> I am Louis Chavis.

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I am the chief of the 
state-recognized Beaver Creek 
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>> I am with the 
Edisto Indian Tribe

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from Ridgeville, South Carolina.

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>> P.A.: Native Americans 
from throughout the region 
came together for this powwow.

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It's an event 
that serves many purposes.

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>> It's a celebration.

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It's a time to get together 
and just enjoy being together

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with one another.

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You make a lot of friends. 
You see old friends.

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You get to talk about

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what's going on

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in our individual communities.

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A powwow is a celebration.

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It has some spiritual qualities 
too.

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You noticed the smudging,

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the purification of the circle.

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When you enter 
the sacred circle,

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that is a reverence

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that you must adhere to.

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It is like a form of worship.

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>> Davidson: A powwow 
is like a homecoming.

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We come together to see 
one another we ain't seen

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in months or years, to celebrate 
our culture together,

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and share it with the public.

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We can come dance and laugh.

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You'll see after awhile

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they'll probably have

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a friendship dance maybe,

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and we'll dance close 
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and some of these young people

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will pass one another.

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A boy and a girl 
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for the first time and meet.

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And once they meet,

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they may start dating.

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That might be another 
relationship come together.

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But a powwow is just 
a big homecoming for us,

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but to share our culture 
with the public.

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>> P.A.: 
You've met many of the chiefs 
that attended this powwow.

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Chiefs have a really big job.

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>> It's like being the mayor 
of a small town,

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except we have to worry about

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who's got electricity 
and who don't,

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and who has food and who don't,

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who gets an education and 
who don't, that sort of stuff.

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And we don't get paid.

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None of the chiefs I know of, 
except the Catawbas,

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in this state get paid 
for what they do,

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and they usually buy 
their own gas,

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pay their own motel bills and 
all that when they go someplace.

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There's no authority,

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but a lot of responsibility.

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>> P.A.: And another big 
challenge that chiefs often lead

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is gaining official recognition

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as an Indian tribe.

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I've been asked many times why 
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why they want to stand apart.

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But it's not that 
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It's that we cannot enjoy

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the rights of common people

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and American citizens

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without having recognition.

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For example, a lot of my people

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like to have a hawk feather

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or an eagle feather 
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It's an ancient and traditional

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Indian religious rite.

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Can't do it in this state.

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Can't do it unless 
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which puts the federal 
government in charge

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of religious freedoms,

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which is against the 
Constitution in this country.

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So, you know, 
we've got to fight these issues,

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and the only way to do it 
is to get folks, ETV,

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and other chiefs together

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and make an issue and fight,

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and that's what we do.

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>> Davidson: You got kids 
could go to college.

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We would have better homes.

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Somehow people live 
in low-poverty homes.

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I went in a girl's house 
just the other day,

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and she's standing at the sink,

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and she could fall 
through her floor.

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I got to go in there and 
try to repair that for her,

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because she's up there in age.

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I got one lady, 
her house was condemned.

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She was raising 
her grandkids there.

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But if we get federally 
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there's funds that you can help 
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get them in decent homes.

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It was in the '90s,

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like '96, '98, when my uncle

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had his bathroom put in.

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You see what I'm sayin'?

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Indian people always 
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and always treated bad,

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like we had some kind 
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from us or something.

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I remember when the schools,

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when the Black and the Indian 
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I was one of the children that 
helped march to get in school

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in Ridgeville, South Carolina.

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We got in school,

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and the teachers 
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They didn't teach us like

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we were supposed to get taught,

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and I know why now,

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in the position I'm in.

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If we were to get 
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right now we'd have had 
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in the position.

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We could have easy did research 
and proved the point

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that we were Indian people.

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>> P.A.: Native Americans 
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and here in South Carolina deal 
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including health and education 
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>> The Indian dropout rate

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is almost five times as high

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as the Black or the White,

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which is kind of surprising 
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Indians with a college degree

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is almost five times as high

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as Blacks or Whites.

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I don't know how that works out, 
but it's true.

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Our poverty level is 
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as the White people, but it's

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about the same as the Black.

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So for most cases,

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the Black and Indian run along 
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I don't know about 
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So, yes, there's a lot 
of economic issues,

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and we need to do more 
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but the problem with the Indian 
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for example, they have kids,

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and the kids will end up

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dropping out of school.

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It's kind of like a circle 
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And then a lot of the illnesses 
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High blood pressure 
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Most all people my age 
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I don't.

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Well, I've got 
high blood pressure,

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but I don't have diabetes.

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But that's pretty, pretty 
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something that's--

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I think Black people have a lot 
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There's got to be something 
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into and maybe find a solution

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to that at some point.

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>> Davidson: We have drugs 
in the area, like anybody else.

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We have a lot of alcohol 
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People hard to find jobs now.

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We've got a lot of people 
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but they're not gonna work 
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You've got to pay 'em decent,

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or they'd rather go fishing.

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But education, our kids

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will get in the school and get

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up to the 10th, 11th grade,

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and drop out because

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of what people say in school.

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They still talk bad about the 
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And I'm gonna try 
to get something set up

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like where the family 
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one quarter of a month,

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you know, every quarter.

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If they come in and talk

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about what that child 
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maybe we could find something

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to keep 'em interested 
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>> P.A.: Many Native Americans 
believe the laws actually

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prohibit them from being 
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and as a people.

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>> My sister...

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my sister does pottery like it 
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But she was barred up until 2005

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from claiming her pottery is

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Native American Indian pottery

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because of Public Law 101644,

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which is a federal law that says

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you cannot claim your art

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is Indian art unless you're 
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Indians are the only people

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that's restricted like that,

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the only people in this country 
that have those restrictions.

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Well, we just last year got 
two laws changed in the state.

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One of 'em, the law in South 
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for example, says that 
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select Jewish rabbis,

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and notaries public may perform 
a marriage ceremony.

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Now, I'm not Christian,

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and I'm not Jewish.

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Why would I have to get

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a Christian or a Jewish rabbi

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to do my marriage ceremony?

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I'm of the ancient faith,

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and I believe an Indian should 
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or relative-by-choice marriage,

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whatever you want to call it,

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through a religion 
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And so we fought that,

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and we won it, and it changed.

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That's one of them.

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There's a lot of issues, though.

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>> Brown: Well, you know,

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our Creator made this earth,

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and he took the native people,

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the American Indians

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as we've become known,

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as his favorite people and put 
us on this beautiful continent

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and this beautiful land,

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and we've got to recognize the 
things that the Creator made.

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We're still here.

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We're still a blessed people.

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We're still here, and we have 
many things to offer

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as far as our teachings

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that are connected very much

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to Mother Earth

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and to the spirit of everything.

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>> P.A.: A powwow 
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Recently I visited a powwow

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that was a wedding too.

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[chanting]

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>> My name is Susan 
"White Lilley" Little.

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I am of the Stockbridge-Munsee 
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>> P.A.: And your new husband?

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>> I am David 
"Cloud Walker" Little,

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and I'm also of the 
Stockbridge-Munsee 
Band of Mohicans.

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>> P.A.: Susan and David 
were joined in marriage

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by a man with 
a very famous father.

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>> This is indeed 
a great pleasure for me,

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and I thank you all for coming 
out here today to celebrate

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this wedding with us.

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It is a celebration today,

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and today we will go home

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knowing that we have been 
blessed by the Great Spirit,

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by the Great Mystery.

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I'm Chief Steve Silverheels,

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Seneca Mohawk Indian 
from the Iroquois Nation.

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My dad was Jay Silverheels,

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who played the part of Tonto 
on "The Lone Ranger."

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>> P.A.: 
Steve Silverheels is a minister,

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and Susan and David's wedding

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was composed of Native American

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and Christian elements.

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>> Susan: As Native Americans,

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we have to live 
both in the White man's world

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and in the Native American 
culture.

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So as Christians and worshipping 
God, and our Creator is God--

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God created the heavens, 
the earth--

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so we incorporate 
the Christian ways into--

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so people understand

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that our God is the same God 
as everybody else's.

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>> Silverheels: Well, 
the headdress is a war bonnet.

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Because I'm a preacher, 
I'm at war with the devil.

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That's a Native American--

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this is a war bonnet.

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We're against evil,

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and we're for good.

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Now, this outfit was made 
by a dear, dear friend of mine.

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He made all the stars' outfits 
in Hollywood, California.

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Nudie made this outfit,

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Nudie Rodeo Tailors.

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But I designed it,

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and he put it all together.

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It has the crosses on it

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because I'm a preacher

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and the eagle because of 
strength that the Lord gives us.

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Everything has a purpose for it.

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>> P.A.: Of course not all 
Native Americans are Christian,

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but Chief Silverheels says

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his great uncle's conversion

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was a miraculous event.

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>> Silverheels: 
He was an alcoholic.

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He was a chief, 
but he was an alcoholic,

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on the reservation in New York.

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He died, was put in the grave,

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and as they were getting ready 
to bury him,

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he arose from the grave.

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It's in your history books.

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If you look inside, his name was 
Chief Handsome Lake,

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a Seneca war chief.

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If you look him up in the 
library, in your libraries,

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you'll find Chief Handsome Lake.

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He died, and he stood up 
in the grave, came out of it,

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and then started the first 
Christian Indian church

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in the United States of America.

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I was an alcoholic 
and on skid row,

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but God delivered me 
from all of that and drugs,

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and He gave me 
a new purpose in life,

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and that's to reach out to touch 
people's lives with the Gospel.

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>> P.A.: So what is the status 
of Native Americans 
in South Carolina?

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For example, how many are there?

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For answers to that question 
and more,

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I talked with Marcy Hayden.

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She is the Native American 
coordinator

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with the South Carolina 
Commission for Minority Affairs.

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>>> Miss Hayden, I had the fun 
of going to a couple of powwows

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in recent months and 
talking with Native Americans 
from around the state.

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Let's get some stats here,

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because I talked with several 
chiefs and everything.

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How many actual numbers,

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how many people are we talking 
about in South Carolina 
who are Native American?

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>> Well, according to the 
American Community Survey

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in the 2000 Census, we have 
approximately 13,800 individuals

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that identify themselves 
solely as Native American.

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In addition to that,

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we have 30,000-plus individuals 
that identify themselves

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as Native American 
and one other race.

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So we're looking at a large 
number of folks here,

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approximately 45,000 people,

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that have been documented 
on the Census.

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Now, as far as South Carolina 
is concerned,

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we have a great undercount 
in our state,

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especially in the minority 
populations,

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and so our office is estimating 
that Native American population

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as closer to about 60,000.

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>> P.A.: About 60,000. 
Let's talk about how 
is it determined whether or not

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you're Native American?

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>> Hayden: In South Carolina, 
we're a little different

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from some of the states out West

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that have a lot of the federally 
recognized tribes

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that are in reservations 
and more well organized.

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In South Carolina, 
we use the federal definition

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that the Census uses,

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which is any individual 
that identifies themselves

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as Native American.

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It goes on self-identification.

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And as far as we're concerned,

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with the state-recognized tribes 
that we have in South Carolina,

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we ask them to go back 
and prove a lineage chart

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to show that 
they have a common ancestor

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that is identified 
as Native American

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or is assumed 
to be Native American.

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So we go on genealogy 
and on self-identification 
in this state.

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>> P.A.: So self-identification 
and actually finding that person

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in your lineage that is actually 
Native American,

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and that's something that an 
individual can do themselves

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or would do themselves?

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>> Hayden: Oh, yes, definitely.

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And there's also ways through 
our office that we can assist

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an individual in looking for 
their Native American heritage,

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and there's also genealogists, 
paid genealogists.

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Historical societies love 
to do this type of work,

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and the State Archives 
has been very helpful

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for a lot of individuals.

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>> P.A.: 
Let's talk about tribes.

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I talked with several people 
from several different tribes.

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How many tribes 
in South Carolina?

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>> Hayden: Currently we have 
one federally recognized tribe,

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which is the 
Catawba Indian Nation.

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After that, we have 
five state-recognized tribes,

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six state-recognized groups,

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one special interest 
organization

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that is state-recognized,

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and all total we have 30-plus 
entities in South Carolina.

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Not all of those folks 
are state-recognized,

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but some of them are 
in the process of that.

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>> P.A.: So 30-plus entities 
that say they are tribes?

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>> Hayden: Yes, yes... 
organized,

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doing work in their community,

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having culture events,

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very active organizations.

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>> P.A.: For several decades 
now, we've been hearing

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about Native Americans 
coming together,

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reclaiming their heritage, 
if you will.

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We hear all about the casinos

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in some parts of the country.

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What are the pluses of being 
recognized as a Native American

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or as a Native American tribe

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in South Carolina?

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>> Hayden: In South Carolina, 
we have the one

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federally recognized tribe,

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the Catawba Indian Nation.

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And being that South Carolina

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is a state that 
doesn't allow gambling,

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they are not allowed 
to have a casino

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here in South Carolina.

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So they find other means

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to create economic development

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and community development 
in their tribe,

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and I'm not gonna speak 
to the Catawba

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because they have 
their own relationship 
with the government.

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They don't have to go though 
the state for that relationship.

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But as far as the 
state-recognized tribes,

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the five that we work with do

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have a few special entitlements

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that they get through the state,

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one of those being the Indian 
Arts and Crafts Act of 1990.

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They are allowed to actually

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create and sell their artwork

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as Native American-made artwork,

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and that's one of the few 
entitlements they do have.

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You know, people have seen 
on gas stations and all that

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where they have dream catchers 
and Indian blankets

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and different types of things 
like those.

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They're not allowed to say 
that they are Indian-made

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because that would be 
a fraudulent claim.

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So what this act entitles them 
to do is actually say,

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"This is Native American-made.

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It is made by the Santee 
Indian Tribe of South Carolina,

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or Santee Indian Organization 
of South Carolina."

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Or "It's made by the 
Beaver Creek Indian Tribe 
of South Carolina."

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>> P.A.: I was talking 
with one of the chiefs,

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and he was saying that 
that was important

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because there are certain birds, 
for example,

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that they use their feathers 
and they can't use them,

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even though that's 
a part of their heritage,

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if they don't have 
some kind of sanction.

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Is that a problem 
for Native Americans 
in the arts?

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>> Hayden: Yes, it is.

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In some cases, it is.

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A lot of the federally 
recognized tribes are allowed

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to use eagle feathers 
and hawk feathers, 
birds of prey,

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and certain other animals 
like deer and bear and buffalo

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and other animals like that.

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As far as South Carolina 
is concerned,

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we did pass a law 
this past year,

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the legislators passed this law,

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that allows for Native American 
tribes in South Carolina

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to sell wild turkey feathers 
in their art,

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so that's an improvement 
for them.

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And the good thing 
about the Artist Act

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is it allows for 
these cottage industries

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to be created 
in different communities

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and allow for small business 
to be engaged.

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I think that's very helpful for 
the Native American communities

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'cause most of them are in rural 
areas, and so this act

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allows for them to have

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a legitimate business

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so they can sell 
on a national level

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and be legitimately recognized

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as Native American artists.

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The other good thing that 
we have in South Carolina

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is that we have a marriage bill 
that passed,

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and this marriage bill allows

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for any state-recognized chief

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or spiritual leader-- 
and state-recognized

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being that they are 
a member of an organization 
that has been recognized

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through the Commission 
for Minority Affairs,

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and that would be 
the five tribes, six groups,

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and one special interest 
organization--

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to perform marriage ceremonies,

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much akin to how a minister

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would perform a marriage 
ceremony

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or any other public official 
or notary.

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>> P.A.: I don't want 
to put you on the spot here,

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but can you name the--you named 
the federally sanctioned.

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What about the tribes 
that are sanctioned by the state 
here in South Carolina?

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>> Hayden: Oh, yes, ma'am.

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We have the Santee Indian 
Organization,

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the Beaver Creek Indian Tribe,

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the Pee Dee Tribe 
of South Carolina,

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the Pee Dee Nation of South 
Carolina, and, um... 
I went blank.

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>> P.A.: It'll come to you.

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>> Hayden: Oh, 
the Waccamaw Tribe.

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I'm so sorry. 
The Waccamaw Tribe.

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I was thinking of going along 
this corridor,

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and I always kind of try 
to remember them going down 95

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'cause a lot of them 
are located on that,

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and the Waccamaw are 
off towards Myrtle Beach.

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>> P.A.: Okay, so the Waccamaw. 
>> Hayden: Yes.

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>> P.A.: Now, you've mentioned 
two of the pluses

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or the benefits of being 
sanctioned Native American

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in South Carolina.

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Are there other benefits?

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Education, health, any other?

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>> Hayden: Well, right now 
we're working on a lot of that

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through our agency.

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One of the focuses of our agency 
is to work on poverty

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and deprivation and 
to improve the life

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of Native American people 
in South Carolina,

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as well as other minorities 
in South Carolina.

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Part of our work with the agency 
is to touch on those issues

508
00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:47,066
of health and job creation, 
education,

509
00:20:47,066 --> 00:20:48,300
and those different areas.

510
00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:49,933
At this point in time,

511
00:20:49,933 --> 00:20:51,833
the Native American Advisory 
Committee,

512
00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:54,600
which is all the leaders 
of the state-recognized tribes

513
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,133
and a few other individuals 
that have a vested interest

514
00:20:57,133 --> 00:21:00,066
in the Indian affairs 
of South Carolina,

515
00:21:00,066 --> 00:21:01,900
have decided that education

516
00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:03,166
is the most important issue

517
00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:05,366
and have been focusing a lot 
on education,

518
00:21:05,366 --> 00:21:10,866
as far as improving 
early programs

519
00:21:10,866 --> 00:21:13,766
for reading and those sorts 
of things in schools,

520
00:21:13,766 --> 00:21:16,200
to continue 
with dropout prevention

521
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,766
for Native American students, 
continuing education,

522
00:21:18,766 --> 00:21:20,366
and higher education.

523
00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:23,533
One of the big issues 
that we have right now

524
00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:26,033
is to actually amend 
the South Carolina curriculum

525
00:21:26,033 --> 00:21:28,833
to improve our history 
that we're teaching

526
00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:31,933
all South Carolinian youths 
in school.

527
00:21:31,933 --> 00:21:34,033
Right now when 
you open a history book,

528
00:21:34,033 --> 00:21:35,800
it's usually two or three 
sentences:

529
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,100
Native Americans were here;

530
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,833
they fought with the Europeans; 
they're dead.

531
00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:42,000
And that's kind of our history 
that we have in South Carolina,

532
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,633
so the leaders 
have been working very hard

533
00:21:44,633 --> 00:21:48,433
to improve those issues 
and to bring awareness,

534
00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:50,966
and that's something that 
our agency does as well.

535
00:21:50,966 --> 00:21:54,366
So that's kind of what 
we're working on

536
00:21:54,366 --> 00:21:55,700
with the state-recognized 
tribes.

537
00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:58,833
As far as privileges, 
right now there is none,

538
00:21:58,833 --> 00:22:01,266
besides actually getting 
your birthright and saying,

539
00:22:01,266 --> 00:22:03,566
"I'm Native American."

540
00:22:03,566 --> 00:22:05,366
There's no free scholarship.

541
00:22:05,366 --> 00:22:06,366
There's no check.

542
00:22:06,366 --> 00:22:08,600
There's no casino money 
or anything like that

543
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,333
for South Carolina 
Native Americans.

544
00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:13,700
We're just able to be part 
of that artist bill

545
00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,833
and to perform marriage 
ceremonies

546
00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:18,833
and to claim that birthright 
and be able to say,

547
00:22:18,833 --> 00:22:21,033
"I'm the state-recognized tribe. 
I'm Native American.

548
00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:24,100
The state finally recognizes us 
as being here."

549
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,333
>> P.A.: You're Native American. 
>> Hayden: Yes, I am.

550
00:22:26,333 --> 00:22:29,033
>> P.A.: And so, personally,

551
00:22:29,033 --> 00:22:30,900
why is it so important that

552
00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,400
the story about Native Americans

553
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,033
in South Carolina be told?

554
00:22:36,033 --> 00:22:38,166
>> Hayden: 
That's a good question.

555
00:22:38,166 --> 00:22:41,166
I was raised Native American.

556
00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:43,066
My dad had always taught us

557
00:22:43,066 --> 00:22:44,600
about our heritage and that

558
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,966
his family was Cherokee.

559
00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:47,566
And as I got older,

560
00:22:47,566 --> 00:22:50,933
we found out that my mom's side 
was actually Native American,

561
00:22:50,933 --> 00:22:54,200
and that's the tribe 
that I belong to now,

562
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,233
is my mom's family's tribe.

563
00:22:56,233 --> 00:22:58,000
And so growing up,

564
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,300
I always felt like I didn't fit.

565
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:02,133
There was always 
something a little off

566
00:23:02,133 --> 00:23:04,966
about where I fit 
into the world.

567
00:23:04,966 --> 00:23:07,166
And I know a lot of kids go 
through that type of thing,

568
00:23:07,166 --> 00:23:09,233
but this is very common 
for Native American children.

569
00:23:09,233 --> 00:23:12,500
And once you belong 
to that heritage

570
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:13,966
and once you find where you fit

571
00:23:13,966 --> 00:23:17,266
and you're able to be part of 
your culture and to understand

572
00:23:17,266 --> 00:23:18,933
why your family 
does the things they do

573
00:23:18,933 --> 00:23:21,266
and why you think the way you do

574
00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,766
and you kind of have 
this instilled mindset,

575
00:23:23,766 --> 00:23:25,466
it just opens this whole

576
00:23:25,466 --> 00:23:27,133
window of opportunity for you.

577
00:23:27,133 --> 00:23:29,366
You really feel like a whole 
person at that point in time.

578
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:31,433
But then you also have to go 
through a lot of the struggles

579
00:23:31,433 --> 00:23:33,266
of figuring out 
what to do with yourself

580
00:23:33,266 --> 00:23:35,066
when you become that point.

581
00:23:35,066 --> 00:23:37,166
But it's so important 
for other Native Americans

582
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:40,100
in South Carolina to really 
start claiming their heritage

583
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,233
and bring that forward because

584
00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:43,666
we're losing our culture.

585
00:23:43,666 --> 00:23:46,966
Our children are not interested 
in being part of it.

586
00:23:46,966 --> 00:23:48,666
They're not interested 
in going to dances.

587
00:23:48,666 --> 00:23:50,500
They're not interested 
in learning about medicines

588
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,100
or how to grow their crops 
or how to take care of the land.

589
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:58,666
They're interested in their 
iPods and MTV and the computer

590
00:23:58,666 --> 00:24:00,266
and the Internet 
and all these other things

591
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:02,833
and being part 
of the overall society.

592
00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:06,000
Sometimes we say we have 
to walk in two worlds.

593
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,333
We have to kind of fit into this 
dominant society and also fit

594
00:24:09,333 --> 00:24:11,366
into our culture as well.

595
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:15,800
But it's important for us to 
understand because our people

596
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,500
have lost just about everything

597
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,600
and we've had everything

598
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,133
taken away from us.

599
00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:24,400
And in South Carolina, 
our rivers--you know,

600
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,333
most of our history is tied 
to Native American involvement.

601
00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,533
We've had some great wars here 
in South Carolina.

602
00:24:29,533 --> 00:24:32,066
A Native American war 
is part of the Revolutionary.

603
00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:34,000
If it wasn't 
for Native Americans,

604
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,166
the Swamp Fox would 
have never succeeded.

605
00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:38,466
And so this history 
needs to be told,

606
00:24:38,466 --> 00:24:39,833
and it needs to be conclusive.

607
00:24:39,833 --> 00:24:41,166
It needs to be together.

608
00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:43,033
As you tell the story 
of Francis Marion,

609
00:24:43,033 --> 00:24:45,066
tell the story 
of the Native American folks

610
00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:46,133
that were in the community

611
00:24:46,133 --> 00:24:47,533
and bring them together

612
00:24:47,533 --> 00:24:49,066
and merge them as one history.

613
00:24:49,066 --> 00:24:50,566
>> P.A.: Miss Hayden, 
thank you so much.

614
00:24:50,566 --> 00:24:51,866
Great information. 
I appreciate it.

615
00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:54,300
>> Hayden: You're welcome. 
Thank you.

616
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:56,466
>> P.A.: Please continue 
to nominate a successful,

617
00:24:56,466 --> 00:24:59,133
committed, involved young Black 
man from your area

618
00:24:59,133 --> 00:25:01,666
to be profiled here 
on "Connections."

619
00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:03,833
Send us their names 
and contact information,

620
00:25:03,833 --> 00:25:06,233
as well as two or three people 
who will vouch for them

621
00:25:06,233 --> 00:25:08,466
and be willing to appear 
on "Connections."

622
00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:10,366
Also send us your digital video

623
00:25:10,366 --> 00:25:12,566
spotlighting interesting events 
and people

624
00:25:12,566 --> 00:25:15,666
so that they can receive 
the recognition they deserve.

625
00:25:15,666 --> 00:25:17,200
We really want to hear from you.

626
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,233
Our address is...

627
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,800
And for more information 
about how you can participate,

628
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:39,200
go to the "Connections" website 
at www.scetv.org/connections.

629
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,233
Well, that's our show.

630
00:25:41,233 --> 00:25:43,200
Thank you so much 
for joining us.

631
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,733
Remember, stay connected.

632
00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:46,933
I'm P.A. Bennett, 
and I'll see you next time,

633
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right here on "Connections."

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