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>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

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POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 

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NINE NETWORK. 

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>>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING 

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US FOR THIS EDITION OF 

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DONNYBROOK AND WE LOOK FORWARD 

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TO SEEING YOU AT DONNYBASH NEXT 

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MONTH.

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WE'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS LATER IN 

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THE PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF

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HOT TOPICS TO DISCUSS, SO WE'LL 

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GET TO THEM.

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FIRST, LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS 

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FOR THIS EDITION, STARTING WITH 

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SARAH FENSKE FROM KWMU, THE HOST

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OF ST. LOUIS ON THE AIR ON 90.7.

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ALSO WITH US A FOUNDER OF 

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DONNYBROOK, BACK IN MICHIGAN, 

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BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE 

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ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH AND 

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STLTODAY.COM.

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HE'S RAY HARTMANN FROM THE BIG 

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550 KTRS AND THE RIVERFRONT 

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TIMES WHERE HE WRITES A GREAT 

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COLUMN.

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AND ANOTHER GREAT COLUMNIST FROM

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THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN AS WELL 

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AS 97.1, 590 AND I'M MISSING 

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SOMEBODY HERE, ALVIN REID.

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IT WILL BE STLMAG.COM.

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HEY, THE KING OF ALL MEDIA. 

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>> TRYING ANYWAY. 

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>> SARAH, THANKS SO MUCH FOR 

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JOINING US.

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LAST FRIDAY, SHEILA SWEENEY, WHO

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USED TO HEAD UP BOTH THE PORT 

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AUTHORITY AND THE ST. LOUIS 

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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 

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PARTNERSHIP, GOT SENTENCED TO 

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ZERO MONTHS IN PRISON FOR HER 

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ROLE IN, I GUESS A SCANDAL THAT 

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INVOLVED AT LEAST FOUR 

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INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING THE 

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COUNTY EXECUTIVE WHO'S BEEN 

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SENTENCED TO ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

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BUT SHE GOT NO TIME AFTER SHE 

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PLEADED GUILTY TO THEFT OF 

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HONEST SERVICES, CORRUPTION.

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SHE HAD AWARDED CONTRACTS AND 

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GRANTS TO DONORS OF STEVE 

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STENGER WILLINGLY, AND SHE GOT 

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PROBATION, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS 

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KIND OF INTERESTING WHEN STEVE 

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STENGER GOT FOUR YEARS.

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SHE WASN'T EVEN REQUIRED TO, AS 

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FAR AS ANY PUBLISH REPORT, TO 

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PERFORM COMMUNITY SERVICE, TO 

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LADLE SOUP IN A SOUP KITCHEN OR 

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ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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DO YOU THINK SHE GOT OFF EASY?

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>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO 

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FEEL WHAT HAPPENED WAS NOT FAIR.

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THIS WOMAN WAS MAKING $500,000 A

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YEAR FROM PUBLIC FUNDING AND 

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COBrdING TO THE ST. LOUIS 

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POST-DISPATCH'S EXCELLENT 

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REPORTING, SHE WAS SERVING AS 

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STEVE STENGER'S PUPPET AND WAS 

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GOING AROUND AND HAVING 

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EMPLOYEES DO THINGS THAT THEY 

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FELT WAS UNETHICAL AND ILLEGAL 

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AND SHE WAS USING THAT WHOLE 

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ORGANIZATION TO PROP UP HIS 

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PROSPECTS, AND NOW WE FIND OUT 

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THAT YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH DOING

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THAT.

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YOU DON'T GO TO PRISON FOR DOING

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IT.

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I THINK IT SENDS A REALLY BAD 

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MESSAGE, SET AND BAD PRECEDENT 

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AND WILL TELL LOTS OF OTHER 

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PUBLIC OFFICIALS THAT, HEY, AS 

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LONG AS YOU'RE NOT THE ONE 

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LEADING IT, YOU CAN GO ALONG 

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WITH IT AND THAT'S FINE. 

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>> I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH 

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YOU.

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I DO THINK SHE SHOULD HAVE GOT 

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SOME MINIMAL SENTENCE WHERE SHE 

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ACTUALLY WAS INCARCERATED.

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HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I'VE COVERED 

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SOME FEDERAL TRIALS WHERE REALLY

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ICKY, ICKY PEOPLE TESTIFIED 

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AGAINST PEOPLE WORSE THAN -- 

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MORE DESPICABLE THAN THEY WERE 

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AND SHE GOT A FREE PASS MORE OR 

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LESS. 

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>> IS THAT THE WHOLE THING?

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YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE WORSE 

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THAN YOU?

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>> I THINK THEY WANTED STEVE 

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STENGER SO BAD, AND I THINK 

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SHE'S THE ONE THAT LAID HIM OUT 

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ON A PLATTER. 

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>> SO YOU THINK SHE'S THE PERSON

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WEARING THE WIRE?

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>> YES, I DO.

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YES, I DO. 

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>> I'M WITH SARAH ON THIS.

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YOU MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS SHE 

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MADE AND YOU WILLINGLY STEAL 

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FROM THE COUNTY, I THINK YOU 

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SHOULD DO TIME.

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I MEAN, IF SHE WENT AND ROBBED 

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THE 7-ELEVEN STORE, SHE'D BE 

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LOOKING AT TEN YEARS.

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CERTAINLY SHE SHOULD DO A COUPLE

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YEARS FOR THIS. 

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>> MAYBE THE PROSECUTOR SAID, 

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HEY, HELP US AND WE'LL HELP YOU.

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>> WHAT'S INTERESTING, IF YOU 

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FOLLOW THE TRANSCRIPTS, SHE WAS 

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WILLING TO GO ALONG WHEN THEY 

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JAFE JOHN RALLO THE SPECIAL 

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CONTRACT EVEN THOUGH HE HAD NO 

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EXPERIENCE IN MARKETING AND SHE 

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HELPED WITH THE WELL STUN DEAL, 

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BUT IN THE SUMMER OF 2018, IT 

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WAS REPORTED THAT THE FBI WAS 

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FOLLOWING HER.

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SHEN THE TRANSCRIPT, SHE'S 

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REALLY RELUCTANT TO GIVE JOHN 

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BARGER AND ASSOCIATES ANY 

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SPECIAL TREATMENT AND YOU CAN 

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TELL WHERE SHE BEGAN TO 

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COOPERATE WITH THE GOVERNMENT. 

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>> THAT'S A LITTLE LATE. 

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>> I THINK THE KEY QUESTION IS 

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COOPERATION, MEANING IT'S A LOT 

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LIKE THE CALCULUS THAT WHEN YOU 

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SEE PEOPLE IN THE MUELLER REPORT

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ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AND I 

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DON'T REALLY HAVE -- I DON'T 

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DISAGREE WITH ANYBODY 

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PARTICULARLY ABOUT IT AS MUCH AS

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IT REALLY PROBABLY COMES DOWN TO

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HOW MUCH, HOW VALUABLE WHAT SHE 

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KNEW AND WHAT SHE DID WAS TO THE

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FEDS.

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IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK THAT'S 

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PROBABLY WHAT DETERMINED IT 

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ALTHOUGH I HAVE -- WE DON'T KNOW

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FOR SURE WHETHER SHE'S GOT NO 

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COMMUNITY SERVICE.

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THAT SOUNDS LIKE -- 

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>> I DIDN'T SEE IT. 

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>> WE DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT I 

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DON'T -- YOU KNOW, NOT ARGUING 

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FOR LENIENCY.

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I SUCT IT HAED TO DO WITH 

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COOPERATION -- SUSPECT IT HAD TO

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DO WITH COOPERATION. 

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>> THEY DID SAY IN THE 

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TRANSCRIPTS, STENGER IS CAUGHT 

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ON THERE SAYING THINGS ABOUT HER

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THAT WERE SO TERRIBLE THAT THE 

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PROSECUTOR SAID THEY COULD NOT 

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EVEN READ THEM IN OPEN COURT 

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BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO NASTY, 

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SO THEY FELT THAT SHE WAS ONE OF

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STENGER'S VICTIMS. 

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>> BUT SHE ALSO MAY HAVE BEEN --

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SHE WAS THE KEY TO THEIR CASE.

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I MEAN, THAT WOULD WEIGH 

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HEAVILY, I THINK. 

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>> SHE WAS ALSO A BIG KEY TO 

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STENGER BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT HE

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DID.

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THERE'S NOT A SHRED OF HONESTY 

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THERE. 

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>> SHE WAS THE LINCHPIN BECAUSE 

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SHE CONTROLLED THE FUNDS AT THE 

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ST. LOUIS PORT AUTHORITY. 

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>> RIGHT. 

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>> RIGHT, RIGHT. 

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>> SHE KEPT TRYING TO HIRE 

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PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND 

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HIS EMPLOYEES WERE BLOCKING HIM 

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AT EVERY TURN AND IT WAS ONLY 

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THROUGH THIS PORT AUTHORITY AND 

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THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

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THAT SHE CONTROLLED THAT HE WAS 

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ABLE TO PLACE ALL THESE PEOPLE 

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INTO FAKE JOBS.

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>> AND THERE WAS ONE COUNTY 

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EMPLOYEE, PAM WRIGHT, I THINK 

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THAT'S HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HER 

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NAME, TRYING TO STOP HIM THE 

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WHOLE WAY.

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>> DID SHE GET FIRED?

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>> WELL, I THINK SHE'S WORKING 

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IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT NOW, BUT

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SHE DESERVES SOME PRAISE FOR 

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TRYING TO THWART IT. 

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>> I HOPE I'M NEVER IN THAT 

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SITUATION, BUT COME ON, WE GOT 

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TO SING.

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I WANT SOMETHING FOR IT.

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>> ALVIN REID -- 

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>> TAKE YOUR MONEY AND GO. 

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>> ALVIN, I WANT TO ASK YOU 

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ABOUT THE MLS.

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IT IS OFFICIAL, THE MLS IS 

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COMING TO TOWN AND AS SOON AS WE

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BUILD A STADIUM, I GUESS WE'LL 

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BE PLAYING IN MAJOR LEAGUE 

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SOCCER.

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YOU WERE AT THE ANNOUNCEMENT 

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THIS PAST WEEK AND OVERALL, YOU 

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THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING JOBS 

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AND BUSINESSES TO ST. LOUIS AS 

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SOME OF THE BACKERS SUGGEST?

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>> WELL, 400 ON CONSTRUCTION OF 

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THE STADIUM OR MAYBE 500, AND 

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THEN 450 PERMANENT JOBS, THAT 

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WAS IN THE RELESS.

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THEY PROMISED TO -- IN THE 

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RELEASE.

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THEY PROMISED TO DO BASICALLY 

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THE BEST THEY COULD TO FULL FILT

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MINORITY BUSINESS AND WOMEN 

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BUSINESS ENTERPRISE STATUTES FOR

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THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

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THAT COULD MEAN EVERYTHING, THAT

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COULD MEAN NOTHING.

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YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE -- IT'S 

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GOOD.

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IT'S GOOD THAT THE DEAL GOT 

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DONE.

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IT'S GOOD THAT I THINK ANDY 

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TAYLOR AND I KNOW IT'S HIS 

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RELATIVES THAT ARE THE THE 

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FEMALE OWNERSHIP AND I THINK 

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THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT 

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ANDY TAYLOR'S BLESSING AND I 

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THINK MLS KNEW THAT AND I THINK 

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THEY ALSO BLACKMAIL US TO GET 

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MORE OUT OF IT TO THE POINT THAT

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THE OWNERSHIP GROUP HAD TO STAND

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UP AND SAY, LISTEN, IF IT 

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DOESN'T GET DONE THIS TIME, 

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WE'RE NOT COMING BACK, BUT WE 

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GOT TO 2018, THAT'S GOOD.

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MAYOR KREWSON CALLED IT 

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TRANSFORMATIONAL, NOT.

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17 GAMES OVER FIVE MONTHS, 

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THAT'S NOT TRANSFORMATIONAL.

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LEWIS REED SAID GIVING KIDS 

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SOMETHING TO DO FROM POOR SIDES 

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OF TOWN TO HELP LIFT THEM FROM 

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POVERTY, I THINK OUR POVERTY IS 

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MORE OUT OF CONTROL THAN THE 

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GOOD FOLKS ON THE MLS TEAM 

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HELPING TO DEVELOP SOCCER 

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PROGRAMS.

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IT IS A GOOD THING, BUT IT IS 

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NOT GOING TO FIX THE THINGS THAT

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WE HAVE BROKEN.

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THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

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GOD BLESS THEM FOR BRINGING THE 

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TEAM HERE AND I GOT A NICE SCARF

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OUT OF IT.

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>> THERE YOU GO.

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>> I WAS GOING TO -- 

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>> I THINK IT'S GRK  GOOD, BUT I

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THINK THE PROGRAMS THAT IT'S 

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GOING TO BRING BUSINESSES ARE 

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PROBABLY EXAGGERATED.

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THERE MIGHT BE SOME BUSINESS 

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OWNERS WHO REALLY LIKE SOCCER 

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AND THAT WILL MAKE ST. LOUIS 

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MORE APPEALING.

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WE HAD THE NFL FOR 20 YEARS AND 

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HOW MANY BUSINESSES MOVED TO 

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DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS?

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WE PROBABLY LOST MORE THAN WE 

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GAIN 

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GAINED.

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>> I DON'T THINK IT'S 

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ECONOMICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

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IT MIGHT BRING SOME JOBS.

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DEFINITELY THE BEST THING ABOUT 

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IT IS IT'S A MORALE WIN FOR A 

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CITY THAT NEEDS A MORALE WIN AND

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IT'S GREAT FOR SOCCER FANS AND I

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DO THINK ST. LOUIS WILL DO A 

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GREAT JOB OF SUPPORTING IT.

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I THINK THE BIG -- THE 

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UNANSWERED QUESTION WITH THESE 

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THINGS IS WE'RE NOW AT POINT OF 

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THE DEVIL GET INTO THE DETAILS 

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AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO 

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SEE WHAT IF ANY PUBLIC GOODIES 

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THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEY'LL

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GET.

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FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT

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GOING TO OWN THE STADIUM, WHICH 

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MEANS THEY'RE NOT PAYING 

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PROPERTY TAX TO THE SCHOOLS, AND

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THERE'S THINGS -- WHEN YOU LOOK 

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AT WHAT A GOOD INVESTMENT THIS 

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IS FOR THE TAYLORS, BEING PART 

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OF THE MLS AND I WROTE ABOUT 

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THIS AT THE RFT.

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THEY'RE PART OF AN INTERNATIONAL

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MARKETING GROUP, BASICALLY, WHEN

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THEY JOIN THE MLS.

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YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY 

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REALLY NEED THAT MUCH HELP.

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>> I THINK YOU'RE BEING TOO 

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PICKY ON THIS.

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OVERALL, THIS IS A VERY GOOD 

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THING.

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NO ONE REALLY THINKS IT'S GOING 

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TO BE TRANSFORMATIONAL AND AS 

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FAR AS THIS BEING A GREAT 

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INVESTMENT FOR THE TAYLORS, 

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MAYBE SO AND MAYBE NOT.

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IT'S BUILT LIKE A PONZI SCHEME, 

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RIGHT?

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AND IF I HAD A LOT OF MONEY, I 

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WOULDN'T BE THINKING OF PUTTING 

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IT INTO SOMETHING THAT LOOKS 

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LIKE A PONZI SCHEME. 

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>> IT'S NOT A POND SKI SCHEME, 

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AND TO YOUR POINT, THE AMOUNT OF

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MONEY THEY HAVE, IT PROBABLY IS 

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NOT GOING TO AFFECT THEIR BOTTOM

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LINE.

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I DON'T MEAN THAT.

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I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A GOOD 

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INVESTMENT PROBABLY BECAUSE OF 

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THE MARKETING COMPONENT. 

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>> MAYBE SOCCER BUT I'VE SAID 

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THIS -- MAYBE SO, BUT I'VE SAID 

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THIS.

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FROM EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN TOLD 

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AND READ AND EVERYTHING ELSE, 

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MLS'S BUSINESS MODEL IS TO ADD 

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TWO TEAMS EVERY THREE OR FOUR 

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YEARS AND THAT BRINGS IN ANOTHER

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300, $400 MILLION AND THAT'S 

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BASICALLY WHAT KEEPS THIS THING 

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AFLOAT.

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THERE'S ONLY TWO OR THREE 

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FRANCHISES THAT DECLARE A 

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PROFIT.

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I'M NOT IN THEIR BOOKS AND ALL 

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THAT, BUT THERE'S VERY FEW TEAMS

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IN THIS LEAGUE THAT OPENLY SAY 

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WE ACTUALLY MAKE SOME MONEY.

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SO WHO KNOWS WHAT THE OTHER 

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TEAMS ARE DOING?

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>> IT'S THE MARKETING, I'M 

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TELLING YOU, AND A PONZI KEEM AS

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CRIME.

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IT'S A NOT A CRIME IT.

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>> DEPENDS ON NEW INVESTMENTS 

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COMING IN TO PAY THE OLD 

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INVESTMENTS IS WHAT WE'RE 

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SAYING.

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I HOPE FOR THE TAYLORS IT WORKS 

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WELL. 

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>> I DON'T THINK SO, LEAGUES 

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HAVE DONE GREAT. 

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>> SOCCER IS EXCITING, BUT THE 

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IMPORTANT THING IS CRIME IN THE 

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STREETS OF ST. LOUIS AND A LOT 

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OF ATTENTION RECENTLY HAS BEEN 

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PAID TO A HORRIFIC SITUATION, 

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SARAH, AND THAT'S ABOUT TEN 

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KIDS, MAYBE 11 NOW, UNDER THE 

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AGE OF 16 HAVE BEEN KILLED ON 

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THE ST. LOUIS STREETS SINCE JUNE

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AND IT'S CLOSE TO 20 FOR THE 

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YEAR.

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AND MAYBE THE SADDEST COMMENT 

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I'VE EVER SEEN IN PRINT WERE IN 

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THE POST-DISPATCH THIS WEEK WHEN

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THE MOTHER OF A SLAIN 7-YEAR-OLD

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SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT 

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THAT -- I'M PARAPHRASING HERE --

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MAYBE IT'S JUST AS WELL HE WAS 

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SHOT AT THE AGE OF 7 SO HE 

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DIDN'T GROW UP THESE STREETS.

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WHAT DID YOU THINK?

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WAS THIS IS GRIEF TALKING OR WAS

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THERE MORE TO THAT?

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>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT BEGAN WITH

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THE GRIEF TALKING, BUT I THINK 

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SHE ALSO SAW WHAT HAPPENS IN HER

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NEIGHBOR, WHICH THE HYDE PARK IN

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NORTH CITY, AND THERE ARE SO 

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MANY PROBLEMS THERE.

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I THINK WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING 

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TO IN THAT LONGER QUOTATION IS 

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THAT WHEN SHE SAW THE SHOOTER, 

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WHO WAS CHARGED WITH KILLING HER

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SON, SHE REALIZED IF HE GREW UP 

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AND TOOK A LONG TIME IN THIS 

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REALLY TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD 

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THEY'RE IN, THAT COULD HAVE JUST

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AS EASILY BEEN HIM IN TEN YEARS 

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AND THAT'S THE MOST 

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HEARTBREAKING THING OF ALL TO 

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ME, IS THAT'S THE FUTURE SHE 

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COULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR 

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THIS LITTLE 7-YEAR-OLD BOY.

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XAVIER USANGA WAS HIS NAME.

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I CAN SEE WHERE SHE WAS COMING 

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FROM.

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I DON'T THINK SHE WAS INCORRECT 

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IN SAYING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN 

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HIS FUTURE. 

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>> I THINK THAT'S GRIEF TALKING.

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I DON'T WANT TO SAY SHE DIDN'T 

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REALLY BELIEVE THAT, BUT I THINK

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THAT IS GRIEF.

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NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS NOT 

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BY VIOLENCE.

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MY WIFE AND I LOST AN INFANT SON

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TO NATURAL CAUSES WHEN HE WAS 10

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MONTHS OLD.

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YOU KNOW, WE HAD 10 MONTHS, BUT 

12:37.652 --> 12:39.053
AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE NO IDEA

12:39.186 --> 12:40.187
WHAT CHANDLER WOULD HAVE GROWN 

12:40.321 --> 12:40.855
UP TO BE.

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HE COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE THE MOST

12:42.189 --> 12:43.457
SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN IN THE 

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WORLD, BUT MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE 

12:45.092 --> 12:46.127
TOOK A WRONG TURN.

12:46.260 --> 12:47.828
THE THING IS, I WOULD NEVER SAY 

12:47.962 --> 12:50.064
I WISH I NEVER HAD HIM AT ALL 

12:50.197 --> 12:51.966
BECAUSE THAT IS -- NO, HUH-UH.

12:52.099 --> 12:54.769
I THINK THAT WAS JUST HER TRYING

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TO DEAL WITH THE TRAGEDY THAT 

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HIT HER LIFE. 

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>> SHE DIDN'T SAY SHE DIDN'T 

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WANT TO HAVE HIM AT ALL.

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SHE SAID MAYBE IT GOOD THAT GOD 

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HAS TAKEN HIM NOW RATHER THAN 

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OLDER. 

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>> I'M SAYING IT HAPPENS, BUT I 

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COULDN'T -- I DIDN'T FEAR THE 

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WORST -- WELL, YOU SAY YOU CAME 

13:12.553 --> 13:13.788
FROM A MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY, BUT 

13:13.921 --> 13:15.356
SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GOING

13:15.489 --> 13:16.857
TO PLAY OUT.

13:16.991 --> 13:18.626
I WOULD NEVER EVER SAY MAYBE IT 

13:18.759 --> 13:20.928
WAS BEST BECAUSE MAYBE HE 

13:21.062 --> 13:22.263
WOULDN'T BE EVERYTHING WE 

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THOUGHT HE WOULD BE.

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I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT. 

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>> WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN WAYS OF 

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RESPONDING TO GRIEF.

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11 KIDS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE 

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CITY THIS SUMMER AND AT THE SAME

13:29.770 --> 13:30.938
TIME, YOU HAVE SO MANY YOUNG MEN

13:31.072 --> 13:32.373
ARRESTED FOR SHOOTING PEOPLE AND

13:32.506 --> 13:34.208
FOR MURDER AND DOING VIOLENT 

13:34.342 --> 13:36.043
ACTS AND THEY HAVE COMING OUT OF

13:36.177 --> 13:37.345
THE SAME MILIEU WHERE YOU CAN 

13:37.478 --> 13:39.146
KILL OR BE KILLED AND THAT'S THE

13:39.280 --> 13:40.247
BIGGEST TRAGEDY OF EVERYTHING.

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>> AND AS A PARENT, TO ME, IT'S 

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SO -- THE GRIEF ANY PARENT HAS 

13:49.023 --> 13:50.191
WHEN THEY LOSE A CHILD IS SUCH 

13:50.324 --> 13:52.193
THAT I JUST -- I THINK EVERYBODY

13:52.326 --> 13:53.260
HANDLES THAT GRIEF DIFFERENTLY 

13:53.394 --> 13:57.965
AND EXPRESSES IT, AND I SORT OF 

13:58.099 --> 14:01.769
JUST THINK -- MAYBE IT'S A 

14:01.902 --> 14:03.504
COPOUT, BUT SORT OF A FREE PASS.

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HOWEVER YOU WANT TO EXPRESS 

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YOURSELF IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. 

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>> IT'S ALMOST SO SAD.

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I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, IF I 

14:08.943 --> 14:10.244
WAS A REPORTER, MAYBE I WOULD 

14:10.378 --> 14:11.946
HAVE ELIMINATED ONLY BECAUSE I 

14:12.079 --> 14:13.080
WOULD HAVE FELT, MAYBE LIKE 

14:13.214 --> 14:14.615
ALVIN, THAT IT WAS THE GRIEF 

14:14.749 --> 14:15.649
TALKING, BUT I TOTALLY 

14:15.783 --> 14:17.318
APPRECIATE YOUR POINT THERE, 

14:17.451 --> 14:17.618
SARAH.

14:17.752 --> 14:18.953
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST -- THE 

14:19.086 --> 14:22.123
SITUATION IS SO DIRE.

14:22.256 --> 14:23.791
ACTUALLY, THERE'S A PROFESSOR 

14:23.924 --> 14:25.059
FROM HARVARD AT THE KENNEDY 

14:25.192 --> 14:28.262
SCHOOL AND HE'S ARRIVING TONIGHT

14:28.396 --> 14:31.098
AND HE'S GOING TO SPEAK 

14:31.232 --> 14:31.465
TOMORROW.

14:31.599 --> 14:34.335
HE'S GOING TO BE AT KMOX AT 8:30

14:34.468 --> 14:35.736
IN THE MORNING.

14:35.870 --> 14:36.971
HE'S WRITTEN A BOOK CALLED "HOW 

14:37.104 --> 14:38.739
TO STOP THE BLEEDING ON THE 

14:38.873 --> 14:41.108
STREETS," AND HE BELIEVES IF YOU

14:41.242 --> 14:42.910
FOLLOW HIS PRINCIPLES AS BOSTON 

14:43.043 --> 14:47.314
AND OAKLAND HAVE DONE, YOU CAN 

14:47.448 --> 14:49.216
DECREASE HOMICIDES IN AGE YEARS.

14:49.350 --> 14:52.853
PEOPLE PLAY WANT TO FOLLOW THAT 

14:52.987 --> 14:53.354
A LITTLE BIT.

14:53.487 --> 14:55.156
WE'LL TAPE AND PLAY IT ON 

14:55.289 --> 14:55.489
MONDAY.

14:55.623 --> 14:56.490
WE'LL HAVE A TOWN HALL 

14:56.624 --> 14:56.891
DISCUSSION. 

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>> WHAT IS THIS -- CAN YOU SAY 

14:59.593 --> 15:00.861
HOW HE DOES THIS?

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>> YEAH, HE BELIEVES, ABT DOES, 

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THAT YOU NEED TO FIND THE 

15:05.232 --> 15:06.100
RELATIVELY FEW INDIVIDUALS IN 

15:06.233 --> 15:07.268
THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S USUALLY 

15:07.401 --> 15:09.403
250 OR 400 OF THEM, AND YOU 

15:09.537 --> 15:09.937
CONFRONT THEM.

15:10.070 --> 15:11.572
YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH

15:11.705 --> 15:13.040
YOU AND WE'LL GET YOU JOBS AND 

15:13.174 --> 15:14.575
TRAINING AND WE'LL GIVE YOU 

15:14.708 --> 15:15.776
BENEFITS, BUT IF YOU DON'T 

15:15.910 --> 15:17.144
ACCEPT OUR OFFER, WE'RE GOING TO

15:17.278 --> 15:17.845
HURT YOU.

15:17.978 --> 15:19.647
WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU AWAY FOR 

15:19.780 --> 15:20.748
A LONG TIME.

15:20.881 --> 15:22.817
IT'S REALLY MICRO.

15:22.950 --> 15:24.752
HE FOCUSES ON THE INDIVIDUALS 

15:24.885 --> 15:25.753
PERPETRATING THESE CRIMES.

15:25.886 --> 15:26.854
HE SAYS THERE'S NOT THAT 

15:26.987 --> 15:27.955
DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT AND HE 

15:28.088 --> 15:29.223
SAYS IT HAS WORKED IN OTHER 

15:29.356 --> 15:29.924
CITIES AND TOWNS. 

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>> KIND OF LIKE THE HOT SPOT 

15:31.325 --> 15:33.794
POLICING THAT OUR CHIEF HAS BEEN

15:33.928 --> 15:35.863
TALKING ABOUT THAT'S SO MICRO. 

15:35.996 --> 15:38.132
>> A LITTLE BIT, BUT HE DOES 

15:38.265 --> 15:39.066
DISTINGUISH HIS PROGRAM FROM THE

15:39.200 --> 15:39.934
HOT SPOT POLICES.

15:40.067 --> 15:41.635
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO ASK 

15:41.769 --> 15:46.006
YOU TO JOIN US ON SEPTEMBER THE 

15:46.140 --> 15:47.541
26th FOR DONNYBASH.

15:47.675 --> 15:49.076
OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER AND A LOT 

15:49.210 --> 15:50.144
OF FUN.

15:50.277 --> 15:53.080
HERE ARE THE DETAILS.

15:53.214 --> 15:54.882
>> FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, THE 

15:55.082 --> 15:55.850
DONNYBROOK CAST HAS BEEN SHOWING

15:55.983 --> 15:57.184
UP HERE EVERY WEEK AND ARGUING 

15:57.318 --> 15:58.385
ABOUT THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND 

15:58.519 --> 15:59.420
THE VARIOUS VIEWPOINTS OF THE 

15:59.553 --> 16:01.455
DAY, BUT ALSO IN A WAY THAT YOU 

16:01.589 --> 16:02.890
CAN TELL THAT THEY ARE GOOD 

16:03.023 --> 16:04.959
FRIENDS AND YOU CAN TELL THAT 

16:05.092 --> 16:06.293
THEY RESPECT EACH OTHER'S 

16:06.427 --> 16:07.962
OPINIONS EVEN WHEN THEY DIFFER.

16:08.095 --> 16:09.997
AND THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THEM 

16:10.130 --> 16:12.132
AND A LOT ABOUT CHANNEL 9.

16:12.266 --> 16:14.201
WE TRY TO BRING PROGRAMS THAT 

16:14.335 --> 16:16.237
BRING US INTO COMMUNITY, THAT 

16:16.370 --> 16:18.639
BRING US TOGETHER, NOT DIVIDE.

16:18.772 --> 16:20.741
AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO 

16:20.875 --> 16:21.809
SUPPORT DONNYBROOK AND ALL THE 

16:21.942 --> 16:23.010
OTHER PROGRAMS YOU END JI HERE 

16:23.143 --> 16:25.145
ON CHANNEL 9 AND THE NINE 

16:25.279 --> 16:25.479
NETWORK.

16:25.613 --> 16:27.414
RIGHT NOW, JOIN US AT THE $5 

16:27.548 --> 16:28.082
LEVEL AND WE HAVE SOMETHING 

16:28.215 --> 16:28.949
SPECIAL FOR YOU.

16:29.083 --> 16:30.351
IT'S THE DONNYBRICK.

16:30.484 --> 16:32.052
WE HAVE BROUGHT IT BACK AFTER 

16:32.186 --> 16:33.087
MANY YEARS.

16:33.220 --> 16:35.523
IT'S A RED FOAM RUBBER BRICK 

16:35.656 --> 16:37.558
AND, BY GOLLY, WHEN YOU DON'T 

16:37.691 --> 16:40.528
LIKE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM 

16:40.661 --> 16:41.662
SOME DONNYBROOKER, YOU CAN JUST 

16:41.795 --> 16:43.430
PITCH IT AT THE TV AND YOU'LL 

16:43.564 --> 16:45.232
STILL HAVE A TV WHEN YOU GET 

16:45.366 --> 16:45.566
DONE.

16:45.699 --> 16:48.402
THAT'S YOURS WITH JUST A $5 

16:48.536 --> 16:49.904
MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE NINE

16:50.037 --> 16:50.237
NETWORK.

16:50.371 --> 16:53.374
IF YOU PREFER, YOU CAN HAVE ONE 

16:53.507 --> 16:55.242
TICKET TO SEE DONNYBROOK LIVE 

16:55.376 --> 16:58.512
AND IN PERSON, DONNYBASH COMING 

16:58.646 --> 17:03.317
UP AT THE MEMORIAL ON SEPTEMBER 

17:03.450 --> 17:04.785
26th AND ALL THE GUYS WILL BE 

17:04.919 --> 17:05.152
THERE.

17:05.286 --> 17:07.488
YOU'LL GET TO MEET THEM BEFORE 

17:07.621 --> 17:09.256
AND AFTER THE SHOW.

17:09.390 --> 17:11.592
IT'S A LIVE BROADCAST AND THAT'S

17:11.725 --> 17:13.260
YOURS AT THE $12 LEVEL.

17:13.394 --> 17:16.230
YOU'LL GET TWO TICKETS TO 

17:16.363 --> 17:16.597
DONNYBASH.

17:16.730 --> 17:17.865
YOU'LL ALSO GET THE DONNYBRICK.

17:17.998 --> 17:19.867
IT'S ALL THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU 

17:20.000 --> 17:22.169
JOIN US AT JUST $12 A MONTH.

17:22.303 --> 17:23.203
AND NOW, BACK TO MORE OF 

17:23.337 --> 17:26.040
DONNYBROOK.

17:26.173 --> 17:26.974
>> ABSOLUTELY.

17:27.107 --> 17:28.208
AND THAT DONNYBROOK HAS NOT BEEN

17:28.342 --> 17:29.944
ON THE SET, I THINK, IN 20 YEARS

17:30.077 --> 17:30.644
OR SO.

17:30.778 --> 17:32.880
I BELIEVE THAT WAS A MARTIN 

17:33.013 --> 17:35.282
DUGGAN CREATION BACK IN THE MID 

17:35.416 --> 17:35.983
1990s.

17:36.116 --> 17:39.553
NOW BEING MODELED BY SARAH 

17:39.687 --> 17:42.489
FENSKE FROM KWMU AND WE'LL SEE 

17:42.623 --> 17:43.657
HOW HER THROWING ARM IS.

17:43.791 --> 17:45.459
THE IDEA IS WHEN YOU SEE 

17:45.593 --> 17:47.728
SOMETHING ON THE SCREEN -- 

17:47.861 --> 17:48.128
[ LAUGHTER ]

17:48.262 --> 17:49.496
-- YOU THROW THE DONNYBRICK, 

17:49.630 --> 17:51.098
IT'S NICE AND SOFT, AT THE 

17:51.231 --> 17:53.834
SCREEN AND IT RELEASES 

17:53.968 --> 17:54.234
ENDORPHINS.

17:54.368 --> 17:56.236
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

17:56.370 --> 17:57.905
SOME STUDY WILL CORROBORATE MY 

17:58.038 --> 18:03.611
THINKING THERE.

18:03.744 --> 18:04.812
THE SHOW-ME INSTITUTE, SCHOOL.

18:04.945 --> 18:06.981
YOU GET THE DONNYBRICK, WHICH IS

18:07.114 --> 18:08.849
A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE FOR 

18:08.983 --> 18:11.085
SOME, AND IT'S ALL PART OF YOUR 

18:11.218 --> 18:12.486
CONTRIBUTION WHICH HELPS THE 

18:12.620 --> 18:13.988
NINE NETWORK PROVIDE GREAT 

18:14.121 --> 18:14.722
COMMERCIAL-FREE PROGRAMMING ALL 

18:14.855 --> 18:15.623
YEAR LONG.

18:15.756 --> 18:18.592
IN FACT, THE BEST PROGRAMMING 

18:18.726 --> 18:19.793
AROUND AND I BELIEVE THIS FALL, 

18:19.927 --> 18:23.330
WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, RAY,

18:23.464 --> 18:25.065
THE COUNTRY MUSIC DOCUMENTARY 

18:25.199 --> 18:26.600
THAT KEN BURNS IS PUTTING 

18:26.734 --> 18:27.034
TOGETHER.

18:27.167 --> 18:29.336
THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE US THE 

18:29.470 --> 18:31.205
CIVIL WAR, BASEBALL, JAZZ, 

18:31.338 --> 18:33.374
VIETNAM, WORLD WAR II, IS BACK 

18:33.507 --> 18:34.575
WITH COUNTRY MUSIC AND THAT'S 

18:34.708 --> 18:35.275
GOING TO BE GREAT. 

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>> AS I SAID, ST. LOUIS HAS ONE 

18:37.544 --> 18:38.646
OF THE STRONGEST PBS STATIONS IN

18:38.779 --> 18:40.414
THE COUNTRY AND I THINK THAT'S A

18:40.547 --> 18:42.316
BIG PART, BEING PART OF THE 

18:42.449 --> 18:43.817
NETWORK AND I DO REMEMBER, 

18:43.951 --> 18:45.219
THOUGH, WHEN THESE FIRST CAME 

18:45.352 --> 18:47.021
OUT, THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE, I 

18:47.154 --> 18:48.689
REMEMBER, SUGGESTING THAT YOU 

18:48.822 --> 18:49.423
USE REAL BRICKS.

18:49.556 --> 18:49.923
I DON'T KNOW.

18:50.057 --> 18:52.226
I REMEMBER THAT BEING A BRIEF 

18:52.359 --> 18:55.195
CONTROVERSY.

18:55.329 --> 18:58.565
BUT NO, BEING PART OF THE PBS 

18:58.699 --> 19:00.868
LINE-UP IS JUST GREAT FOR 

19:01.001 --> 19:02.136
ST. LOUIS AND IT'S -- WE'RE JUST

19:02.269 --> 19:03.303
ONE LITTLE PIECE OF IT. 

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>> IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF 

19:04.705 --> 19:06.106
IT, FOR SURE, ALL THE GREAT 

19:06.240 --> 19:06.607
PROGRAMMING HERE. 

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>> ABSOLUTELY AND IT'S A FUN 

19:08.075 --> 19:08.242
NIGHT.

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IT REALLY AS FUN NIGHT.

19:11.612 --> 19:13.213
THOSE THAT COME SAY I DIDN'T 

19:13.347 --> 19:14.248
EXPECT IT TO BE THIS FUN.

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YOU THINK, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT 

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IT TO BE?

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>> WHY ARE YOU HERE?

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>> RIGHT.

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BUT, NO, IT'S A GREAT EVENING.

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I THINK PEOPLE ARE AMAZED THAT 

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IT REALLY IS LIVE TELEVISION.

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FOR SOME REASON, THEY THINK LIVE

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TELEVISION MEANS LIKE JOHNNY 

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CARSON USED TO BE.

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IT WAS TAPED AT 5:30 AND CAME ON

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AT 10:30 OUR TIME, BUT NO, 

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YOU'RE THERE, YOU SEE, IT'S LIVE

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AND THAT'S A COOL THING. 

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>> IT IS INDEED.

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CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN, 

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GET A DONNYBRICK AND JOIN US AT 

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DONNYBASH SEPTEMBER THE 26th AT 

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THE SHELDON.

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BILL McCLELLAN, I WANT TO ASK 

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YOU ABOUT BODY CAMS.

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MAYOR LYDA KREWSON AND THE CITY 

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OF ST. LOUIS SAYS SHE'S MOVING 

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CLOSER TO BODY CAMS.

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SHE ALSO SAID THIS WEEK SHE'S 

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CLOSER TO ENDORSING A PLAN 

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CALLED CURE VIOLENCE BY 

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ALDERMANIC PRESIDENT LEWIS REED 

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WHICH WOULD TRY AND CUT THE 

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BLEEDING IN THE STREETS, BUT THE

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BODY CAMS ARE KIND OF 

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INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK A 

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LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING 

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FOR THEM FOR A LONG TIME.

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THE CITY JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE 

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MONEY.

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DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REALLY

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PAY POLICE OFFICERS SO THEY CAN 

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GET A FULL COMPLEMENT AND IF THE

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CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR 

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DECENT PAY FOR POLICE OFFICERS 

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AND TWO OFFICERS PER PATROL CAR,

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SHOULD IT HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND

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BODY CAMS?

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>> I THINK YOU GOT TO FIND THE 

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MONEY TO FUND BODY CAMS.

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AND I THINK MOST POLICE OFFICERS

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ARE FINE WITH IT, TOO, BECAUSE 

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ANYTIME THEY'RE OUT ON THE 

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STREETS, SOMEBODY'S ALREADY -- 

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CRIME SCENES ARE SO DIFFERENT 

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THAN THEY USED TO BE, 

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EVERYBODY'S THERE WITH A CAMERA 

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NOW, SO THE POLICE ARE ALREADY 

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ACCUSTOMED TO BEING FILMED.

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I THINK THIS IS PROTECTION FOR 

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THE COPS AS MUCH AS IT WILL 

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PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM BEING 

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RIDICULOUS OUT THERE, I THINK.

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I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD. 

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>> I DO, TOO, AND HOW MUCH IS 

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THE ST. LOUIS METROPOLITAN 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING TO END 

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UP PAYING PROBABLY TO THE POLICE

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OFFICER WHO IS UNDER COVER THAT 

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THE OTHER POLICE OFFICERS BEAT 

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UP?

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OKAY?

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THAT'S A LAWSUIT.

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IT WILL GET SETTLED OR WHATEVER,

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MONEY.

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THE YOUNG POLICE OFFICER, YOU 

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KNOW, WHO WAS KILLED AND THE TWO

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COPS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON DUTY 

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AND SHE GOT SHOT.

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IF THEY HAD BODY CAMS ON, IT 

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WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE BECAUSE

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THE SECOND IT GOES OFF, YOU KNOW

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THAT YOU'VE TOLD ON YOURSELF 

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THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON.

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IT'S A GOOD THING IN THAT IF I'M

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A PROPER POLICE OFFICER, I WANT 

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ONE ON BECAUSE IT DEFUSES 

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PROBABLY 99.5% OF ANY KIND OF 

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ALTERCATION WITH THE PUBLIC EVEN

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IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE, YOU KNOW,

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DEADLY.

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THEY HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONE'S 

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LIFE.

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I THINK THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH 

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UPHOLD WHAT THEY SAID, SO I 

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WOULD WANT ONE.

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YOU GOT TO FIND THE MONEY FOR 

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IT.

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I KNOW A CERTAIN SECTOR OF THE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT 

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ANY PART OF IT.

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I THINK THAT'S OLD-SCHOOL 

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THINKING AND I WOULD WANT TO 

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WEAR ONE. 

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>> I THINK THERE'S ONE HUGE 

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PROBLEM WITH IT AND THAT'S THERE

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THERE WAS APPARENTLY A STATE LAW

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PASSED A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHERE

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THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS FOOTAGE

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WILL NOT BE RELEASED AS LONG AS 

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SOMETHING IS UNDER 

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INVESTIGATION.

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NOW, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN 

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WORKING JOURNALISTS, WE KNOW 

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THAT WHEN THEY DECIDE THAT THEY 

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DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE RECORDS 

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ON SOMETHING, THEY WILL SAY IT 

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IS UNDER INVESTIGATION, YEARS 

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WILL PASS, YOUR CHILDREN WILL 

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GROW UP AND GO TO COLLEGE, THIS 

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THING IS STILL UNDER 

22:35.349 --> 22:35.649
INVESTIGATION.

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THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RELEASE 

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THAT FOOTAGE, WHAT GOOD IS 

22:38.418 --> 22:38.585
THERE?

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>> ACCESS IS GOING TO BE A FUN 

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PART OF THE WHOLE THING.

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IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE THING ON

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THE PART OF THE MEDIA, BUT ALSO 

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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S A 

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DOMESTIC ASSAULT AND THE POLICE 

22:49.429 --> 22:51.164
GO UP THERE AND THE HUSBAND AND 

22:51.298 --> 22:53.367
THE WIFE ARE GOING AT EACH 

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OTHER?

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WHO GETS ACCESS TO THAT?

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I MEAN, WHAT IF SOMEBODY -- 

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WELL, THE POLICE MISBEHAVED, SO 

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THEN WE GET TO LOOK AT IT?

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OR DIVORCE LAWYERS?

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THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF 

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FILM OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE 

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GOING TO WISH WASN'T THERE.

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>> IN SOME COMMUNITIES, YOU'RE 

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NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THE POLICE 

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CAM, THE BODY CAM INTO A HOME.

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IT CAN ONLY BE ON THE STREETS 

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AND THE SIDEWALK. 

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>> WELL, THAT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH 

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SENSE. 

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>> WELL, YOU GOT PRIVACY IN 

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PEOPLE'S HOMES.

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THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE 

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FILMED AND LET'S SAY YOU'RE IN 

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YOUR BEDROOM AND YOU'RE FILMED 

23:24.765 --> 23:26.033
BY THE POLICE AND THEN 

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SOMEONE -- SOME MEDIA OUTLET 

23:28.201 --> 23:29.770
SUBPOENAS IT OR WANTS TO SEE IT 

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AND SHOW IT TO THE WORLD.

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THAT'S NOT FAIR FOR YOU. 

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>> I THINK HAVING BODY CAMERAS 

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SHOULD BE SORT OF POLICE 101 

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NOW, SO I'M IN AGREEMENT, 

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ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S KIND OF 

23:39.513 --> 23:42.282
THING -- I DON'T KNOW, IT'S THE 

23:42.416 --> 23:44.818
MLS, GOOD NOT GREAT BECAUSE OF 

23:44.952 --> 23:47.421
THE POINT SARAH RAISED, FIRST OF

23:47.554 --> 23:49.156
ALL, AND THE POLICE CAN SAY -- 

23:49.289 --> 23:50.290
THE OFFICERS UNION THAT'S 

23:50.424 --> 23:51.525
LUKEWARM TO IT CAN MAKE THE 

23:51.658 --> 23:52.459
POINT THAT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT 

23:52.592 --> 23:54.728
THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BE 

23:54.861 --> 23:55.028
DONE.

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THEY HAVE 153 POSITIONS TO FILL 

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THAT THEY AREN'T FILLING AND I 

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STILL THINK THEY NEED TO DO 

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THIS, BUT THEY ALSO AT SOME 

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POINT -- IT'S GREAT FOR US TO 

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SIT HERE AND TALK WEEK IN AND 

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WEEK OUT ABOUT THE CRIME.

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THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY 

24:08.642 --> 24:10.944
IN THE CITY TO HIRE -- AND I'M 

24:11.078 --> 24:12.612
SOMEBODY THAT THINKS THAT THE 

24:12.746 --> 24:13.780
EXPERT YOU GOT COMING IN DEALING

24:13.914 --> 24:16.083
WITH THE CAUSES OF CRIME IS A 

24:16.216 --> 24:18.118
BETTER SOLUTION THAN MORE COPS, 

24:18.251 --> 24:19.419
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU GOT TO

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FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FILL 

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UNFILLED POSITIONS. 

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>> THAT'S THE WHOLE THING.

24:24.658 --> 24:29.062
WE'VE BEEN 110 OR 150 OFFICERS 

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SHORT OF A FULL COMPLEMENT FOR 

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AT LEAST THREE YEARS. 

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>> THAT DOES NOT ARGUE AGAINST 

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BODY CAMERAS. 

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>> YOU ASK SOMEONE LIVING IN 

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NORTH ST. LOUIS OR SOUTH 

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ST. LOUIS, WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT

24:38.372 --> 24:38.739
TO YOU?

24:38.872 --> 24:40.240
A POLICE OFFICER WITH A BODY 

24:40.374 --> 24:41.608
CAMERA OR MORE POLICE ON THE 

24:41.742 --> 24:43.310
STREET, TWO COPS IN A PATROL 

24:43.443 --> 24:45.245
CAR, A QUICKER RESPONSE TIME?

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I DON'T THINK BODY CAMS ARE 

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GOING TO WIN. 

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>> BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE -- 

24:48.515 --> 24:50.283
IT'S A FALSE CHOICE, I THINK. 

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>> NO, IT'S NOT.

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IT'S A LIMITED PIE.

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A LIMITED BUDGET. 

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>> THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR BODY 

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CAMERAS, I THINK IT'S A FALSE 

24:57.991 --> 24:58.191
CHOICE. 

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>> MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. 

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>> IS THAT A YEAR OR A 

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ONE-TIME -- 

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>> BEYOND THE COST OF BODY 

25:04.698 --> 25:06.533
CAMERAS, THE COST OF STORAGE IS 

25:06.666 --> 25:06.933
TREMENDOUS.

25:07.067 --> 25:08.468
AT ONE POINT LEWIS REED 

25:08.602 --> 25:09.569
ANNOUNCED, I HAVE THERE DEAL TO 

25:09.703 --> 25:11.204
GET BODY CAMERAS FOR FREE, BUT 

25:11.338 --> 25:12.672
THEY NEEDED A MILLION DOLLARS A 

25:12.806 --> 25:14.341
YEAR JUST TO STORE THE FOOTAGE.

25:14.474 --> 25:15.776
THEY'RE MASSIVE ONGOING COSTS ON

25:15.909 --> 25:16.076
THIS.

25:16.209 --> 25:18.311
CHARLIE IS RIGHT, THE BUDGET IS 

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NOT INFINITE. 

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>> SPEAKING OF POLICE OFFICERS, 

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YOU WERE TALKING TO A FORMER ONE

25:24.451 --> 25:26.853
LAST NIGHT ON YOUR 550 RADIO 

25:26.987 --> 25:27.154
SHOW.

25:27.287 --> 25:28.021
TIM FITCH WAS THE CHIEF OF 

25:28.155 --> 25:29.089
POLICE FOR THE COUNTY AND NOW 

25:29.222 --> 25:31.358
HE'S A COUNTY COUNCILMAN AND YOU

25:31.491 --> 25:33.560
DON'T HEAR ANY POLITICIAN ASKING

25:33.693 --> 25:35.695
FOR LIBRARY TRUSTEES TO BE FIRED

25:35.829 --> 25:36.997
TOO OFTEN, BUT THAT'S THE CASE 

25:37.130 --> 25:40.167
RIGHT NOW WHERE HE WANTS EVERY 

25:40.300 --> 25:43.637
SINGLE ONE TO STEP DOWN AFTER A 

25:43.770 --> 25:44.938
CONTROVERSIAL REAL ESTATE DEAL 

25:45.072 --> 25:46.373
IN FRONTENAC WHERE THEY BOUGHT 

25:46.506 --> 25:47.908
PROPERTY FOR $6 MILLION THAT HAD

25:48.041 --> 25:50.677
BEEN APPRAISED FOR $2 MILLION, 

25:50.811 --> 25:52.279
AND WOW, IT'S GROUND HOG DAY ALL

25:52.412 --> 25:52.813
OVER AGAIN.

25:52.946 --> 25:54.514
DIDN'T WE DO THIS WITH THE 

25:54.648 --> 25:55.549
HISTORY MUSEUM RECENTLY?

25:55.682 --> 25:56.683
>> FIRST OF ALL, HE WAS TALKING 

25:56.817 --> 25:59.186
NOT IN HIS POLICE CONTEXT, SO HE

25:59.319 --> 26:00.420
WASN'T SUGGESTING ANY CRIMES HAD

26:00.554 --> 26:01.121
BEEN COMMITTED. 

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>> TRUE. 

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>> BUT HE ACTUALLY WAS MORE 

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MODERATE THAN I WOULD BE.

26:04.658 --> 26:06.126
HE BASICALLY HAS CALLED -- AND 

26:06.259 --> 26:07.427
GOOD FOR HIM.

26:07.561 --> 26:11.231
HE'S CALLED, IF YOU FOLLOW MOST 

26:11.364 --> 26:13.166
PEOPLE, BUT THE COUNTY LIBRARY, 

26:13.300 --> 26:15.702
ENABLED BY A RIDICULOUS STATE 

26:15.836 --> 26:18.772
STATUTE THAT EMPOWERS THEM TO 

26:18.905 --> 26:20.173
OVERRIDE A LOCAL COMMUNITY'S 

26:20.307 --> 26:22.042
ZONING, HAS JUST DECIDED, YOU 

26:22.175 --> 26:23.810
KNOW, TO JUST TELL FRONTENAC, 

26:23.944 --> 26:25.045
WHICH IS NOT NORMALLY A PLACE 

26:25.178 --> 26:29.783
YOU THINK OF AS, YOU KNOW, 

26:29.916 --> 26:30.951
IMPOVERISHED COMMUNITY, 

26:31.084 --> 26:32.385
BASICALLY TOO BAD, WE'RE GOING 

26:32.519 --> 26:33.587
TO TAKE THIS SPOT AND WE'RE 

26:33.720 --> 26:35.555
GOING TO DO THIS FACILITY, WHICH

26:35.689 --> 26:39.226
IS LARGELY A STORAGE THING, AND 

26:39.359 --> 26:40.494
TIM IS RIGHT THAT REALLY THE 

26:40.627 --> 26:42.395
INDIVIDUALS ON THE BOARD, HE 

26:42.529 --> 26:43.563
ACTUALLY THINKS THEY OUGHT TO BE

26:43.697 --> 26:45.832
REMOVED ONE AT A TIME TO 

26:45.966 --> 26:46.500
PRESERVE THE INSTITUTIONAL 

26:46.633 --> 26:48.101
MEMORY OF THE LIBRARY BOARD.

26:48.235 --> 26:51.204
MY OWN VIEW IS THAT GIVEN THAT 

26:51.338 --> 26:53.640
THEY ARE ALL FILLING ON EXPIRED 

26:53.773 --> 26:55.075
TERMS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE 

26:55.208 --> 26:55.375
FIRED.

26:55.509 --> 26:56.343
THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE 

26:56.476 --> 26:57.677
COUNTY COUNCIL SIMPLY NEED TO 

26:57.811 --> 26:59.813
REPLACE THEM AND THAT'S EXACTLY 

26:59.946 --> 27:01.448
WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WITH ALL 

27:01.581 --> 27:02.415
FIVE OF THEM. 

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>> I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE 

27:03.717 --> 27:06.186
GONE YESTERDAY, BUT I LIKE TO 

27:06.319 --> 27:09.422
POINT OUT LEAH THORSON OF THE 

27:09.556 --> 27:10.223
POST-DISPATCH IS THE WOMAN WHO 

27:10.357 --> 27:12.259
WROTE THIS STORY, AND NO ONE HAD

27:12.392 --> 27:13.827
HEARD OF THEM.

27:13.960 --> 27:15.495
THIS IS WHAT NEWSPAPERS CAN DO.

27:15.629 --> 27:17.130
TAKE SOMETHING LIKE THE LIBRARY 

27:17.264 --> 27:18.131
DISTRICT, WHO WOULD HAVE 

27:18.265 --> 27:18.465
THOUGHT?

27:18.598 --> 27:21.234
AND THESE PEOPLE, THEY VIOLATED 

27:21.368 --> 27:22.302
THEIR OWN BYLAWS.

27:22.435 --> 27:23.370
YOU KNOW, THEIR BYLAWS CALL FOR 

27:23.503 --> 27:25.438
THEM TO GET ESTIMATES, AND THEY 

27:25.572 --> 27:27.874
JUST WENT AHEAD AND DID THIS, 

27:28.008 --> 27:30.644
SPENT PUBLIC MONEY LIKE NOTHING.

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I THINK THEY SHOULD BE -- 

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>> MAYBE I AGREE, MAYBE I DON'T,

27:36.383 --> 27:38.485
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS TIM'S 

27:38.618 --> 27:40.420
PLACE TO CALL FOR THEM TO BE 

27:40.554 --> 27:41.821
IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED.

27:41.955 --> 27:43.290
I THINK THIS IS THE OPENING 

27:43.423 --> 27:45.158
SALVO OF TIM FITCH RUNNING FOR 

27:45.292 --> 27:50.063
COUNTY EXECUTIVE IN A FEW YEARS.

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OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS IN HIS 

27:51.398 --> 27:52.632
DISTRICT, AND NOTHING -- MORE 

27:52.766 --> 27:54.568
POWER TO HIM, BUT THIS IS KIND 

27:54.701 --> 27:55.302
OF LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF AN 

27:55.435 --> 27:57.204
OVERREACH ON HIS PART AND IF 

27:57.337 --> 27:58.972
THIS IS THE SAME LYNN BECKWITH 

27:59.105 --> 28:01.508
THAT I KNOW, THIS IS A MAN THAT 

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NEVER RAISES HIS VOICE, BUT THAT

28:04.177 --> 28:06.413
LETTER MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT

28:06.546 --> 28:08.114
HE THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST SOME 

28:08.248 --> 28:08.515
NONSENSE.

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NOW, THIS DEAL IS BAD, OKAY?

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I GUESS.

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BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST -- 

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I DON'T KNOW.

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>> WELL, IT'S A TERRIBLE DEAL. 

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>> WAIT, LET ME FINISH. 

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>> OKAY. 

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>> WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS I 

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DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO 

28:23.863 --> 28:25.432
USURP THE AUTHORITY OF THIS 

28:25.565 --> 28:26.833
LIBRARY BOARD BECAUSE THE NEXT 

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THING IS, SOMEBODY WANTS TO 

28:29.069 --> 28:30.303
USURP THE AUTHORITY OF A LIBRARY

28:30.437 --> 28:31.705
BOARD BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE 

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THE BOOKS THEY HAVE. 

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>> BUT THEY'RE ALL ON EXPIRED 

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TERMS.

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I MEAN -- 

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>> NO, NO, NO.

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LET ME SAY, THEY CAN GO, ALL 

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RIGHT?

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BUT I'M SAYING TIM FITCH SAYING 

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THEY SHOULD FIRED IMMEDIATELY, 

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THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER -- 

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>> HE DIDN'T SAY -- FIRST OF 

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ALL -- 

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]. 

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>> I WAS SURPRISED.

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I THOUGHT HE SAID IMMEDIATELY, 

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BUT THEN ON AIR, HE SAID WE 

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OUGHT TO DO IT OVER TIME, BUT MY

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POINT IS, IF I UNDERSTAND 

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CORRECTLY, AND I THOUGHT I SAW 

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IT ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, ON 

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THEIR WEBSITE, IT IS THE BOARD 

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MEMBERS OF THE LIBRARY ARE 

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APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY 

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COUNCIL -- 

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>> COUNTY EXECUTIVE. 

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>> NO, ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF 

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THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. 

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>> OH, OKAY, OKAY. 

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>> SO I DON'T -- OF COURSE, IF 

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HE'S ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL, HE 

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WAS TALKING TO THE -- GOO HERE'S

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THE POINT YOU'RE ALL MISSING.

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I'M ASHAMED OF YOU FOR NOT 

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SEEING THIS.

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I AGREE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY 

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PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD GET AN 

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APPRAISAL.

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DIDN'T WE LEARN THAT WITH THE 

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HISTORY MUSEUM AND THE BOSLEY 

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PROPERTY AND ALL THAT?

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OKAY, BUT WHY WAS FRONTENAC SO 

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OBSTINATE WHEN IT COMES TO 

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BUILDING A GENEALOGY CENTER?

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IT WASN'T A STORAGE SHED, IT WAS

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A GENEALOGY CENTER.

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FRONTENAC RESIDENTS GO 

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EVERYWHERE ELSEWHERE THERE'S 

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LOTS OF TRAFFIC, BUT ONE TIME 

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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUNTY 

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FACILITY IN FRONTENAC, THEY BALK

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AND IF IT WAS PLAZA FRONTENAC 

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THAT WAS GENERATING SALES TAX, 

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THEY WOULDN'T MIND THE TRAFFIC. 

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>> WHERE IS THE COUNTY LIBRARY, 

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CHARLIE?

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>> IT MIGHT BE IN LADUE OR 

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FRONTENAC, BUT -- I THINK IT IS 

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IN FRONTENAC.

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THIS ISN'T THE CITIZENS OF 

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FRONTENAC.

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>> NO, THE CITIZENS OF FRONTENAC

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HAVE BEEN OBJECTING BECAUSE IT'S

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IN THEIR BACKYARD.

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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>> THE ISSUES I HAVE WITH IT, 

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UNLESS THE POST REPORTING ISN'T 

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TRUE, THAT THEY, WITHOUT AN 

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APPRAISAL, SENT 6 MILLION COUNTY

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DOLLARS FOR $2 MILLION WORTH OF 

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REAL ESTATE.

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I MADE THE POINT, I'M NOT 

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FALLING ON THE SWORD FOR THE 

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POOR -- I THINK FRONTENAC IS NOT

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EXACTLY A DEFENSELESS COMMUNITY 

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IN TERMS OF ITS ABILITY TO HAVE 

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RESOURCES, BUT THIS IS A BROADER

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ISSUE AND THE COUNTY LIBRARY 

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SYSTEM, BY THE WAY, IS 

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CONSIDERED A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM.

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>> IT IS, IT IS.

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WE AGREE ON THAT. 

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>> I THINK IT'S JUST -- 

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>> BILL?

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>> IT'S JUST IS A GOOD IF WE GET

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RID OF THESE PEOPLE THE WAY I 

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SEE IT. 

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>> IT COULD BE.

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I WILL TO ASK YOU ABOUT SCOTT 

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FAUGHN WHO'S BEEN ON THIS 

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PROGRAM BEFORE BUT NOT MUCH 

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LATELY WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED IN

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THE GREITENS CONTROVERSY THAT HE

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WAS THE BAG MAN, TAKING IN 

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20,000, $25,000 IN CASH IN PAPER

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BAG TO ALBERT WATKINS, THE 

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ATTORNEY FOR THE HUSBAND OF THE 

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WOMAN WHO WAS THE CENTER OF 

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GREITENS AFFAIR.

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HE WAS ON MY PROGRAM.

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IS HE A JOURNALIST?

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I DON'T THINK SO.

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THE GOVERNOR, MIKE PARSON, GAVE 

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HIM AN INTERVIEW RECENTLY AND 

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JASON HANCOCK FROM THE KANSAS 

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CITY STAR WROTE A PIECE 

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QUESTIONING THAT.

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THIS GUY IS NOT EXACTLY A 

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JOURNALIST AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS

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BANNED AT THE STATE HOUSE.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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>> I THINK HE'S PRETTY MUCH A 

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JOURNALIST.

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HE'S ALWAYS HAD HIS EAR TO THE 

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GROUND ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

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I MEAN, SCOTT IS PLUGGED IN TO 

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THE REPUBLICAN THINKING AND SO I

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THINK, OKAY, SURE, AND THAT'S 

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WHY GOVERNOR PARSON GAVE HIM THE

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INTERVIEW, I'M SURE.

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IN HIS LITTLE WORLD, HE'S 

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INFLUENTIAL. 

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>> I MEAN, THE GREAT IRONY IS HE

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MAYBE GAVE HIM THE INTERVIEW 

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BECAUSE SCOTT FAUGHN GOT HIM THE

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JOB BY TOPPLING HIS PREDECESSOR.

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>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

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GOOD FOR BOTH OF THEM, RIGHT?

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>> AS A JOURNALIST, THIS DOES 

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BOTHER ME.

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YOU CAN'T GO AROUND BEING A 

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POLITICAL OPERATIVE DELIVERING 

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BAGS OF MONEY TO SOMEONE TO GET 

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RID OF A GOVERNOR SO YOUR 

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GOVERNOR OF CHOICE CAN COME IN, 

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AND THEN PUT YOUR JOURNALIST HAT

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BACK ON.

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THAT'S CRAZY. 

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>> FIRST OF ALL, HE HAS A STATE 

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SHOW THAT AIRS ON 30 -- WHEN THE

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WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE 

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CONTROVERSY HAPPENED WITH THE 

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MONEY GOING TO WATKINS AND STUFF

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AND SCOTT MADE THE POINT VERY 

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CLEARLY THAT HE DID NOT CONSIDER

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HIMSELF A JOURNALIST.

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HE THOUGHT OF HIMSELF AS A 

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BUSINESSMAN.

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SO HE IS THE HOST OF A TV SHOW 

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THAT'S AIRED AROUND TOWN AND IF 

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PARSON WAS GONE -- THE THING I 

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THOUGHT WAS MOST INTERESTING, 

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BECAUSE I HAPPENED TO SEE THE 

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INTERVIEW, PARSON DID SOMETHING 

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YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE, WHICH HE

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ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY -- HE 

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BASICALLY KEPT TALKING ABOUT -- 

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ON THE SHOW, HE KEPT SAYING 

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THERE WILL BE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT

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AND BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT ON 

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SEPTEMBER 8th, HE'LL BE 

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ANNOUNCING FOR GOVERNOR, WHICH 

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THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION AND 

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NOBODY REALLY PICKED UP ON IT, 

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BUT HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS 

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GOING TO ANNOUNCE.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN

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ANYBODY DO THAT. 

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>> YOU MENTIONED POLITICAL 

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OPERATIVE.

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THERE ARE NO TWO BIGGER 

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POLITICAL OPERATIVES IN THE 

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ST. LOUIS AREA THAN LAND COB AND

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KELLY -- HANCOCK AND KELLY AND 

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THEY'RE ON RADIO ALL THE TIME 

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AND THEY HAVE FINANCIAL AND 

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POLITICAL INTERESTS IN THE 

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CLIENTS THEY SERVE. 

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>> AND I DON'T LIKE THAT. 

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>> BUT HOW CAN I TELL SCOTT 

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FAUGHN HE CAN'T DO IT, WHEN TO 

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ME THEY'RE NOT SAME BALLPARK. 

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>> TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, I'LL 

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BACK UP HANCOCK AND KELLY ON 

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THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE MY GOOD 

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FRIENDS ON KMOX AND THEY'RE ALSO

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ON FOX, BUT THEY DO DISCLOSE 

33:49.022 --> 33:51.257
THEIR CONFLICTS AND WHEN IT CAME

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TO SOME ISSUES LIKE BETTER 

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TOGETHER, THEY DID NOT TALK 

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ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN 

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WORKING FOR THAT AND THEY ARE 

33:57.163 --> 33:58.197
INSTRUCTED NOT TO INTERVIEW 

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PEOPLE FROM WHOM THEY RECEIVE 

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MONEY.

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BUT THEY ARE POLITICAL 

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OPERATIVES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY 

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RIGHT AND THEY'RE ON THE RADIO. 

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>> BUT SCOTT FAUGHN HAS NEVER 

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DISCLOSED WHERE THAT MONEY CAME 

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FROM THAT WAS DESIGNED TO BRING 

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DOWN GREITENS.

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AT LEAST UNTIL HE DISCLOSES 

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THAT -- 

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>> WHAT KIND OF A JOURNALIST 

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DOESN'T DISCLOSE HE'S THE GUY 

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PRYING THE MONEY TO BRING DOWN 

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THE GOVERNOR?

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>> ONE, DISHONEST, ONE MAYBE 

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BAD, BUT WITH ALL THE TRASH 

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GOING ON OUT THERE, HOW AM I 

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GOING TO PICK HIM OUT?

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>> WE CAN ALL QUESTION ANYTHING 

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YOU WANT TO ABOUT HIM AND 

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CERTAINLY IT'S FAIR CRITICISM, 

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BUT HE HAS A TV SHOW.

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THE GOVERNOR WANTS -- 

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>> IT'S A COMMERCIAL IS WHAT IT 

34:37.804 --> 34:39.973
IS.

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>> I'M NOT -- LOOK, IT WAS AN 

34:42.108 --> 34:43.443
EASY INTERVIEW BECAUSE I 

34:43.576 --> 34:44.310
OBVIOUSLY LIKES PARSON, WHICH IS

34:44.444 --> 34:45.211
WHY HE WENT ON THE SHOW. 

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>> AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT 

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SHOW, IT SAID THE FOLLOWING IS A

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PAID COMMERCIAL.

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HE'S NOT A JOURNALIST. 

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>> NO ONE IS SAYING HE IS.

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I'M NOT SAYING HE IS. 

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>> I'M SAYING HE IS.

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>> IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY. 

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>> I'M SAYING HE HAS A TV SHOW.

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SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME ON, THEY 

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HAVE THE RIGHT TO AND IF 

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SOMEBODY WANTS TO CRITICIZE HIM,

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THAT'S THE FLACK THEY'RE GOING 

35:08.234 --> 35:08.568
TO TANK. 

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>> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ASK

35:10.403 --> 35:12.639
YOU TO BASICALLY PAY US AND THAT

35:12.772 --> 35:14.240
IS TO JOIN US -- WELL, NOT 

35:14.374 --> 35:15.842
DIRECTLY PAYING IT, BUT YOU'RE 

35:15.975 --> 35:17.043
SUPPORTING THE NINE TEAMWORK 

35:17.176 --> 35:18.177
THROUGH OUR BIG ANNUAL 

35:18.311 --> 35:20.346
FUNDRAISER, WE CALL IT DONNYBASH

35:20.480 --> 35:22.482
AND HERE ARE THE DETAILS, HOW 

35:22.615 --> 35:23.483
YOU CAN JOIN US ON SEPTEMBER 

35:23.616 --> 35:25.051
26th AT THE SHELDON.

35:27.987 --> 35:29.389
>> ALL RIGHT, DONNYBROOK IS 

35:29.589 --> 35:30.423
WHERE YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU 

35:30.556 --> 35:33.259
WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE ISSUES OF

35:33.393 --> 35:35.895
THE DAY DISCUSSED RATIONALLY.

35:36.029 --> 35:38.598
WELL, MOST OF THEM ARE 

35:38.731 --> 35:39.932
DISCUSSING IT RATIONALLY AND YOU

35:40.066 --> 35:41.334
CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES YOU THINK 

35:41.467 --> 35:42.568
ARE RATIONAL AND WHICH ONES YOU 

35:42.702 --> 35:43.970
THINK AREN'T, BUT ALL OF THEM 

35:44.103 --> 35:45.471
ARE SITTING THERE LISTENING TO 

35:45.605 --> 35:46.873
EACH OTHER, ALLOWING EACH OTHER 

35:47.006 --> 35:48.374
TO SPEAK AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES 

35:48.508 --> 35:49.275
DONNYBROOK SO IMPORTANT.

35:49.409 --> 35:50.476
THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH 

35:50.610 --> 35:52.712
EACH OTHER AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO

35:52.845 --> 35:54.914
AGREE WITH THEM, BUT EVERYONE 

35:55.048 --> 35:56.582
HAS A CHANCE TO STATE THEIR 

35:56.716 --> 35:56.916
OPINION.

35:57.050 --> 35:58.217
AND ISN'T IT REFRESHING TO HAVE 

35:58.351 --> 35:59.419
A PLACE LIKE THAT?

35:59.552 --> 36:01.521
AND THAT PLACE IS RIGHT HERE ON 

36:01.654 --> 36:02.321
THE NINE NETWORK.

36:02.455 --> 36:03.623
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING 

36:03.756 --> 36:05.224
THAT HAPPEN THROUGH YOUR 

36:05.358 --> 36:05.625
MEMBERSHIP.

36:05.758 --> 36:07.660
AT JUST $5 A MONTH, YOU'RE GOING

36:07.794 --> 36:11.831
TO RECEIVE THIS CLASSIC 

36:11.964 --> 36:15.134
DONNYBRICK AT YOUR $5 SUSTAINING

36:15.268 --> 36:15.868
MEMBERSHIP LEVEL.

36:16.002 --> 36:17.904
YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN 

36:18.037 --> 36:22.275
DONNYBRICK AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE

36:22.408 --> 36:25.445
WHAT YOU HEAR OR JUST CAN'T HOLE

36:25.578 --> 36:28.147
IT IN ANYMORE, YOU THROW IT 

36:28.281 --> 36:30.616
DIRECTLY AT YOUR TELEVISION 

36:30.750 --> 36:30.950
SCREEN.

36:31.084 --> 36:32.385
OR THE SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP, 

36:32.518 --> 36:33.186
YOU CAN JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH 

36:33.319 --> 36:34.487
HAPPENING OVER AT THE SHELDON.

36:34.620 --> 36:36.389
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN US AT JUST 

36:36.522 --> 36:40.727
$12 A MONTH AS A SUSTAINING 

36:40.860 --> 36:42.128
MEMBER, YOU CAN GET THE BIG PIJ.

36:42.261 --> 36:43.896
IT'S THE DONNYBRICK AND A TICKET

36:44.030 --> 36:47.400
FOR YOU AND A FRIEND TO GO TO 

36:47.533 --> 36:48.868
DONNYBASH AND BE THERE FOR THE 

36:49.001 --> 36:52.872
PRESHOW RE SHOSHOW RECEPTION, THE LIVE SHO
W

36:53.005 --> 36:54.874
AND AFTERWARDS, THE POST SHOW 

36:55.007 --> 36:55.241
RECEPTION.

36:55.374 --> 36:56.142
YOU TRY TO SAY THAT FAST.

36:56.275 --> 36:57.643
YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE 

36:57.777 --> 37:00.046
JOINING AN EXCLUSIVE GROUP OF 

37:00.179 --> 37:01.914
PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY WATCH 

37:02.048 --> 37:03.049
DONNYBROOK, BUT SUPPORT IT.

37:03.182 --> 37:04.784
ONES YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW -- 

37:04.917 --> 37:06.185
WON'T YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW?

37:06.319 --> 37:08.020
GIVE US A CALL.

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>> YEAH.

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ALL RIGHT, THANKS A LOT.

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WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU JOINING 

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US.

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WE'RE JUST WONDERING WHEN SARAH 

37:13.626 --> 37:15.094
IS GOING TO THROW THIS 

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DONNYBRICK AT THE CAMERA.

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COULD BE BEFORE THE END OF THE 

37:18.598 --> 37:18.765
SHOW.

37:18.898 --> 37:20.466
THE DONNYBRICK WILL BE YOURSELF 

37:20.600 --> 37:23.069
SO YOU CAN RELIEVE THOSE 

37:23.202 --> 37:24.771
TENSIONS AND RELEASE THOSE 

37:24.904 --> 37:26.339
ENDORPHINS AND ALL THAT AS YOU 

37:26.472 --> 37:27.774
WATCH OUR PROGRAM AND YOU'LL 

37:27.907 --> 37:29.842
HELP CHANNEL 9 SUPPORT THESE 

37:29.976 --> 37:31.577
GREAT PROGRAMS FROM PBS AND 

37:31.711 --> 37:31.911
BEYOND.

37:32.044 --> 37:34.714
THINK OF ALL THE GREAT PROGRAMS 

37:34.847 --> 37:36.449
THAT YOU ENJOY HERE, INCLUDING 

37:36.582 --> 37:38.384
OF COURSE THE NEWS HOUR WHICH 

37:38.518 --> 37:39.752
PRECEDES US EVERY WEEK NIGHT AND

37:39.886 --> 37:41.587
JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW 

37:41.721 --> 37:42.688
JOURNALISM IS EXCELLENT.

37:42.822 --> 37:45.024
WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF 

37:45.158 --> 37:45.424
JOURNALISM.

37:45.558 --> 37:48.528
NOBODY IT DOES BETTER THAN JUDY 

37:48.661 --> 37:50.263
WOODRUFF AND HER TEAM AT THE 

37:50.396 --> 37:50.963
NEWS HOUR.

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PLEASE JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH, 

37:52.765 --> 37:53.166
OUR FUNDRAISER.

37:53.299 --> 37:54.534
WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR 

37:54.667 --> 37:55.968
BEING SO GENEROUS. 

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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GOOD FOOD, GOOD FUN.

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I THINK SOME KNOWLEDGEABLE TALK.

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I'M NOT SURE. 

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>> THAT'S QUESTIONABLE.

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>> YOU'VE BEEN IN THE AUDIENCE 

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BEFORE. 

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>> WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS AT 

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THE END. 

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>> THE ONE THING WE KNOW FOR 

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SURE IS THAT THE VENUE IS GREAT.

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THE ACOUSTICS, THE SHELDON IS 

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ONE OF THE GREAT -- IT'S ALWAYS 

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A THRILL.

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WE'VE BEEN DOING IT A LONG TIME,

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BUT JUST TO BE PART OF THAT 

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HISTORY.

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IT'S A LOT BETTER FOLKS, MORE 

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IMPORTANT PEOPLE PERFORM ON THAT

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STAGE, BUT SERIOUSLY, IT'S 

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VERY -- YOU KNOW, IT SEATS 7-, 

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800 PEOPLE, BUT IT'S VERY 

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INTIMATE AT THE SAME TIME.

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THERE'S OTHER GREAT THEATERS IN 

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ST. LOUIS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE 

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REAL TREASURES.

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>> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE ORIGINAL

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SITE OF THE ETHICAL SOCIETY OF 

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ST. LOUIS BEFORE IT MOVED OUT TO

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CLAYTON ROAD. 

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>> HOW IRONIC THAT IS. 

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>> THIS WILL BE THE ONE TIME OR 

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ONCE A YEAR THAT WE SHARE A 

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STAGE THAT ALBERT EINSTEIN WAS 

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ON. 

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>> KATHLEEN BATTLE, AND MORE.

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AND THE DONNY GANG.

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PLEASE JOIN US.

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CALL THAT NUMBER ON THE SCREEN 

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AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 

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JOINING US, SEPTEMBER 26th, NEXT

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MONTH, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

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I WANT TO ASK YOU, SARAH, ABOUT 

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THE COMIC SECOND AT THE 

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POST-DISPATCH.

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USUALLY I COULD CLICK THROUGH 

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FACEBOOK AND MY NAME WOULD BE TO

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THERE.

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YOU DEVOTED AN ENTIRE HOUR -- 

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>> NOT AN ENTIRE HOUR, BUT HALF 

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AN HOUR BR WE HAD BETH O'MALLEY 

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CAME ON TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES 

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MAKING TO THE COMMENT SECTION.

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I FIND THIS TOPIC REALLY 

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INTERESTING BECAUSE I'M A 

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JOURNALIST, BUT EVERYONE IS 

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TRYING TO PROMOTE CIVIL 

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DISCOURSE AND IT'S LIKE HOW DO 

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YOU GET THERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE 

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TERRIBLE AND ESPECIALLY ONLINE.

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WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS MOVED AWAY

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WITH A FACEBOOK-BASED SYSTEM, 

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WHERE YOU HAVE TO LOG IN WITH 

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YOUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNT, WHICH IS 

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AN ATTEMPT TO GET PEOPLE TO DO 

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THINGS UNDER YOUR REAL NAME.

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NOW YOU'RE DOING IT WITH THE 

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LOG-IN WITH THE PAPER, IT HEY 

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NOT BE YOUR REAL NAME, BUT YOU 

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CAN UP-VOTE COMMENTS THAT ARE 

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HELPFUL OR PROMOTING THE 

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DISCUSSION OR DOWN-VOTE SOMEONE 

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WHO'S BEING A JERK OR NOT 

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CONTRIBUTING TO THE DISCUSSION.

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THE IDEA IS EVERYONE 

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PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSION 

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WITH HELP TO MODERATE IT AND THE

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GOOD COMMENTS RISE TO THE TOP 

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AND THE BAD COMMENTS ARE BURIED.

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>> FIRST OF ALL, I WAS A 

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PUBLISHER OF A PUBLICATION, WE 

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WOULD NOT HAVE A COMMENT 

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SECTION.

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I MIGHT HAVE A PLACE ONLINE 

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WHERE YOU CAN HIT AN ICON AND GO

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AWAY, BUT NOT AT THE END OF ANY 

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STORY.

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I'M LOST FOR HOW SOMEONE NOT 

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HAVING TO USE THEIR NAME IS 

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GOING TO CLEAR UP THAT TRASH 

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THAT'S IN THE COMMENTS SECTION.

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I THINK IT WILL LEAD TO EVEN 

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WORSE.

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AND ALL THEY DO, ALL THE MINIONS

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WHO AGREE WITH SOME JUST CRAZY 

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STATEMENT ON THERE, THEY'LL JUST

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BE GIVING IT THE THUMBS UP AND 

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IT WILL STILL STAY AT THE TOP.

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THE HATRED AND ALL THAT WILL BE 

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RIGHT AT THE TOP. 

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>> WHAT BETH WAS SAYING, THE 

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FACEBOOK SYSTEM IS DESIGNED THAT

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PEOPLE HAVE TO USE THEIR REAL 

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NAMES OR FACEBOOK WILL BOOT YOU 

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IF THEY CATCH YOU USING A FAKE 

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NAME.

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PEOPLE WERE FIGURING OUT WAYS TO

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GAME THIS SYSTEM JUST LIKE EVERY

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SYSTEM IN THE WORLD, PEOPLE GAME

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IT AND THEY WERE ALREADY ON 

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THERE WITH FAKE NAMES.

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WHY FORCE PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH 

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FACEBOOK WHEN WE KNOW FACEBOOK 

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BUSINESS DESTROYING DEMOCRACY. 

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>> THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THIS.

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ONE IS THE EFFORT TO HAVE THE 

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CIVIL DISCOURSE AND LEAD THE 

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COMMUNITY AND THE OTHER IS THAT 

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PEOPLE READ THIS BECAUSE IT IS A

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TRAIN WRECK.

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I MEAN, PEOPLE READ THE COMMENTS

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SECTION BECAUSE IT IS SO NASTY.

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AND SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT -- DO

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YOU REALLY WANT CIVIL DISCOURSE?

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>> CERTAINLY AT MY FORMER 

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EMPLOYER, THE RIVERFRONT TIMES, 

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THE COMMENTS ARE JUST 

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NOTORIOUSLY TON TOXIC AND PEOPLE

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WANT TO TUNE IN TO THAT.

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>> YOU'RE MY FORMER BOSS, BUT 

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YOU ALSO FOUNDED THE PAPER SO I 

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MEAN, I'M SORT OF BECOMING MORE 

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IN ALVIN'S CAMP ON THIS.

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I HAVE TO TELL YOU, SO MUCH -- 

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IF THE COMMENTS -- YOU REALLY 

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HAVE TO HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO 

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MODERATE MORE THAN MOST OF US AS

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JOURNALISTS WANT TO BECAUSE WHAT

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HAPPENS WITH THESE COMMENTS, AND

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I WRITE A COLUMN IN THE RFT, I 

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STOPPED LOOKING AT THEM.

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I'M JUST NOT GOING TO LOOK AT 

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THE COMMENTS BECAUSE A LOT OF 

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THEM, BESIDES JUST BEING SLANDER

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PER SE AT THE TIME, THE 

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COMMENTERS HAVING FEUDS AND 

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GOING AFTER ONE ANOTHER AND 

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IT'S -- WHICH IS THE TRAIN WRECK

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BILL IS TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S 

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REALLY -- I CAN -- I SURELY 

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WOULDN'T CRITICIZE ANYBODY THAT 

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SHUTS OFF COMMENTS. 

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>> IT IS DIFFICULT TO MODERATE. 

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>> I WOULD NOT SHUT OFF -- IF 

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YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM, HAVE 

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THEM, BUT I WOULDN'T CRITICIZE 

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ANYBODY THAT SHUT THEM OFF. 

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>> I THINK HONESTLY, YOU HAVE TO

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BE AN IDIOT TO BE AGAINST CIVIL 

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DISCOURSE.

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>> THIS ISN'T CIVIL. 

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>> I WOULD SAY -- YOU KNOW -- 

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>> YOU ASK THE QUESTION -- 

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>> BOB COSTAS TALKED ABOUT THIS 

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A LOT.

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HE'LL SAY, OKAY, DAVID BROOKS 

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SPENDS THREE DAYS WRITING A 

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COLUMN AND THEN IT'S IN THE "NEW

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YORK TIMES" AND THEN YOU CAN 

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FIND SOME GUY WHO ON THE SEAT OF

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HIS PANTS WRITES SOMETHING CRAZY

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RIGHT AFTER, NOT WELL REASONED 

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OR THOUGHT OUT AT ALL.

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THAT'S THE POINT OF A NEWSPAPER?

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ARE YOU HERE TO GET SOME OF THE 

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FLY-BY-THE-SEAT OF THE PANTS 

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COMMENTS THAT IS NOT RESEARCHED 

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OR FORETHOUGHT OR SOMETHING 

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THAT'S REASONED AND INTELLIGENT 

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AND PUT TOGETHER BY A 

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PROFESSIONAL.

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IN THE MEDIA, DO WE CONSIDER 

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OURSELVES PROFESSIONAL OR ARE WE

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JUST ONE MORE VOICE OUT THERE?

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>> YOU HAVE TO ADD IN THE 

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ELEMENT OF ALL THE BOTS OUT 

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THERE OR THE FAKE WHATEVER.

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I'M TO THE POINT WHERE I 

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REALLY -- PEOPLE ARE SO BRAVE 

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WHEN THEY HAVE THE ANONYMITY OF 

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THEIR TWITTER ACCOUNT IN THE 

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COMMENTS.

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I YAD TO THINK, YEARS AGO, THINK

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ANYTHING GOES, WE WANT TO 

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ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSATION, AND 

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AS I SAY, I'M SORT OF IN THE 

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MIDDLE IN THAT I WOULDN'T 

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CRITICIZE ANYONE FOR HAVING IT, 

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BUT I DEFINITELY LEAN MORE 

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TOWARDS SAYING THE HECK WITH ALL

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OF IT.

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>> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 

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WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 

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THE COMMENTS SECTION AND THE 

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CALLERS TO YOUR TURN?

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>> WELL, THERE IS -- BECAUSE WE 

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GOT SOME RULES.

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THERE'S SOME MODERATION AND 

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CHANNEL 9 ISN'T GOING TO ALLOW 

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PEOPLE -- LET ME TELL YOU 

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SOMETHING.

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I REMEMBER BEING ON CABLE ACCESS

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ONCE WHEN IT WAS FIRST A THING 

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AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN TWO 

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HOURS, THERE WAS LIKE ONE CALL 

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THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE HUMAN 

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ANATOMY.

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I MEAN -- 

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>> IT'S KIND OF AN ISLAND OF 

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DECENCY OUT THERE.

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WHEN YOU HAVE A CALL-IN SHOW ON 

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CHANNEL 9, IT'S DIFFERENT. 

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>> WE GET GREAT CALLS. 

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>> LET'S MOVE ON.

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BILL, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK

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THAT PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT T-SHIRTS 

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WITH THE RAMS LOGO ON IT BETWEEN

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DECEMBER OF 2010 AND MAYBE 

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SOMETIME IN 2016, CAN GET A 25% 

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REFUND THIS THEY KEPT THEIR 

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RECEIPTS OR IF THEY'RE IN THE 

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RAMS SYSTEM.

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IF YOU BOUGHT IT AT THE STADIUM 

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AND THE RAMS HAVE YOU ON FILE, 

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THEY'RE GOING TO SEND YOU SOME 

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MONEY AND IF YOU BOUGHT TICKSES 

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AND YOU'RE IN -- TICKS AND 

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YOU'RE IN THEIR SYSTEM OR GOT 

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THE RECEIPT, I THINK YOU GET 25%

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BACK.

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I CAN UNDERSTAND SEASON TICKSES 

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AND PSLs, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, IF 

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YOU BOUGHT A RAMS T-SHIRT OR A 

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HAT, DOES STAN KROENKE AT POINT 

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OWE YOU ANYTHING?

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>> NO, HE DOESN'T.

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HE'S A GREAT ENTREPRENEUR, I'LL 

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START -- NO, I HATE TO BE A STAN

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KROENKE'S SIDE, BUT I THINK IF 

45:35.394 --> 45:40.966
PEOPLE WANT TO BUY SOUVENIRS OF 

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SOME TEAM, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF 

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THE TEAM LOSES OR ANYTHING, I 

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DON'T THINK PEOPLE DESERVE THE 

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MONEY BACK.

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AS FAR AS THE PSL OWNERS, YOU 

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CAN READ THE LEASE AS WELL AS 

45:52.411 --> 45:52.945
ANYONE ELSE.

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THIS TEAM CAN LEAVE AFTER TEN 

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YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS.

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I'M NOT EVEN SURE ABOUT THE PSL 

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OWNERS.

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LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I'D LIKE TO

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TAKE A STICK AND POKE IT AT 

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MR. KROENKE, BUT I DON'T THINK 

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THIS DESERVES ANYTHING. 

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>> EXCUSE ME, ELECTIONS MATTER 

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AND VERDICTS AND SETTLEMENT 

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MATTER.

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THIS ONE WAS MADE IN THE SYSTEM.

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I DON'T -- I KIND OF DON'T THINK

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STAN KROENKE IS GOING TO LOSE A 

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LOT OF SLEEP OVER IT, BUT I 

46:18.704 --> 46:21.974
THINK THAT IF WE -- ST. LOUIS 

46:22.107 --> 46:23.876
DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO SHOW FOR 

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IT.

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THEY GOT A SETTLEMENT, GOT A 

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VERDICT -- 

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>> COME ON, RAY, T-SHIRTS 

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AGAINST STAN KROENKE?

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>> THE BIG WINNERS IN ANY CLASS 

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ACTION FOR THE LAWYERS, WE KNOW 

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THAT. 

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>> $7 MILLION. 

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>> BUT HAVING SAID THAT -- 

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>> YOU MEAN ANYBODY WHO BOUGHT A

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T-SHIRT HAS A CLAIM?

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>> THEY DO.

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THEY POINT IS ARE YOU FEELING 

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BAD -- MY POINT IS ARE YOU 

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FEELING BAD FOR KROENKE?

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I DON'T CARE ABOUT A GUY GETTING

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25 CENTS BACK FOR HIS T-SHIRT --

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>> THAT'S A TYRANNY OF THE 

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JUSTICE SYSTEM. 

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>> NO, IT'S NOT. 

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>> YOU'RE THE GUY WHO TOOK THE 

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SETTLEMENT. 

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>> BANK OF AMERICA, I READ IT --

47:02.715 --> 47:04.450
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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AND THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS 

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THEY GOT THIS -- STAN KROENKE 

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WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE LAST 

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LAUGH.

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THEY GOT THIS LUMP OF SETTLEMENT

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MONEY AND IF ENOUGH PEOPLE, 

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WHICH IS THE CASE OF ONE OF THE 

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ONES I DID, DON'T CLAIM THE 

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MONEY, WHATEVER IS LEFT, I GOT 

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TWO CHECKS.

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>> DID YOU REALLY?

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>> YES, I DID.

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SO YOU MIGHT THINK OF ALL THE 

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PEOPLE THAT COULD CLAIM SOME OF 

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THIS MONEY, ONLY ABOUT A HALF OF

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THEM ARE GOING TO EVEN PROBABLY 

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BOTHER. 

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>> WHO KEEPS A RECEIPT FROM A 

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T-SHIRT?

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>> THIS IS AMAZING.

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I HAD A PSL -- 

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>> THE PSL OWNERS ARE IN THE 

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SYSTEM, IN THE COMPUTER. 

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>> THEY ACTUALLY CALL THEM. 

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>> IF THEY BOUGHT A T-SHIRT OR 

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SWEATSHIRT OR HOODIE FROM 

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MACY'S, YOU BETTER HAVE THE 

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RECEIPT.

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OTHERWISE YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK. 

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>> MAYBE A PHOTO OF YOU IN THE 

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T-SHIRT. 

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>> THAT MIGHT HELP. 

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>> I HAVE TO ADMIT.

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I THOUGHT THAT WAS BIZARRE, BUT 

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I'M SAYING THE SETTLEMENT WAS 

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WHAT THE SETTLEMENT WAS.

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WHO DO YOU FEEL BAD FOR?

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KROENKE?

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>> THAT'S THE POINT.

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>> QUITE FRANKLY, IT NEVER WENT 

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TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY SETTLED 

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AND HERE'S THIS MONEY THAT THIS 

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COMPANY OR MR. KROENKE HAS TO 

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COME UP WITH AND IF YOU WANT A 

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PIECE OF THAT PIE, WHO'S MAD?

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HE AIN'T MAD.

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>> ALVIN, I BET YOU THOUGHT OF 

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THIS ONE AND THAT IS, WE HAVE A 

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MLS TEAM COMING OUR WAY.

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WE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER IN THE

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SHOW.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MASCOT 

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SHOULD BE?

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>> OH, WOW.

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OKAY, WHEN I FIRST HEARD 

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BATTLEHAWKS, MY FIRST THOUGHT 

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WAS, WHAT, WHAT?

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>> THAT'S THE XFL TEAM. 

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>> ALL RIGHT -- OH, I'M SORRY.

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YOU'RE TALKING -- 

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>> MLS. 

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>> MLS.

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SEE, I HAD XFL ON MY MIND.

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THAT'S A CRAZY NAME. 

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>> YOU'RE JUST EXCITED ABOUT THE

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SETTLEMENT. 

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>> RIGHT. 

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>> HE'S GOING TO FILL OUT HIS 

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FORM.

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>> LIKE LEWIS AND CLARK KIND OF 

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THING?

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THE EXPEDITION. 

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>> THE ST. LOUIS AND CLARK. 

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>> THE JOURNEY.

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YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 

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MASCOT WOULD BE THAT WOULDN'T 

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OFFEND SOMEBODY, FIRST OF ALL, 

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SO -- 

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>> IT CAN'T BE THE KINGS. 

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>> IT CAN'T BE THE KINGS AND -- 

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YOU KNOW.

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WE AS A -- I THINK YOU HAVE TO 

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WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE NAME OF 

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THE TEAM IS FIRST AND THEN YOU 

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FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MASCOT IS. 

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>> COULD BE THE TOASTED RAVS. 

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>> ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS DUMB. 

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>> HOW ABOUT THE TAX CREDITS?

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>> THE ST. LOUIS TAX CREDITS. 

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>> THE CREDIT.

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>> LET'S SEE HOW -- 

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>> SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY GOOD 

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AT HERE. 

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>> THE ST. LOUIS ABATEMENT.

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>> WELL, TRUTH BE TOLD, IF WE 

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HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE CARDINALS

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BEFORE, NO TEAM HAD EVER BEEN 

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NAMED AFTER THEM AND SOMEONE 

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SUGGEST THAT THE NEW MLS TEAM OR

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XFL TEAM BE NAME THE CARDINALS, 

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DO YOU THINK IT WOULD FLY?

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>> THE XFL -- 

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>> THAT ISN'T REALLY A THING.

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>> IT IS.

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>> WHAT THE GUYS NAME -- REALLY?

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IT'S NOT EVEN -- 

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>> HE HIRED A LEGITIMATE 

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INDIVIDUAL IN OLIVER LUSK -- 

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>> THE MLS, I THINK ST. LOUIS IS

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A SOCCER CAPITAL AND I'M HAPPY 

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FOR SOCCER FANS FOR REAL.

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I THINK IT'S A THING.

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THE XFL IT'S EVEN A THING. 

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>> IT IS A THING.

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YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BECAUSE OF 

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HIM, BUT HE'S NOT RUNNING IT.

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IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO EMPLOY, 

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YOU KNOW, 3-, 400 INDIVIDUALS, 

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GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO MAKE MONEY

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AND PLAY FOOTBALL.

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IT DOES HAVE A TV CONTRACT AND 

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IT'S GOING TO BE A TELEVISION.

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SO I CAN'T HATE ON THOSE 

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PARTICIPATING IN THE LEAGUE.

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BY THE WAY, OUR TEAM IS LIKE THE

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FRONT OFFICE WAY MORE DIVERSE 

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AND THIS LEAGUE IS WAY MORE 

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DIVERSE THAN THE NATIONAL 

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FOOTBALL LEAGUE IS.

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I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MAYORS, 

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I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE -- 

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ABOUT PLAYERS, I'M TALKING ABOUT

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PEOPLE RUNNING THE ORGANIZATION.

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I CAN'T DO IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S 

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McMAHAN.

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>> I CAN.

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PEOPLE HAD -- 

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>> SARAH FENSKE, LET'S MOVE ON 

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TO THE NEW YORK TIMES.

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A WOMAN THIS WEEK WROTE ABOUT 

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THE MIGRATION OF BOSNIAN 

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REFUGEES FROM THE CITY OF 

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ST. LOUIS TO THE COUNTY, GOING 

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TO HIGH SCHOOLS LIKE MEHLVILLE 

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AND OAKVILLE.

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THEY'RE APPARENTLY RIGHT NOW, 

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THE BOSNIANS ARE FIRMLY 

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ENSCONCED IN THE MIDDLE CLASS 

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AND THEY HAVE LEFT THE BEVO MILL

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AREA.

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YOU POINTED OUT THAT A LOT OF 

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PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET IN THE 

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NEW YORK TIMES. 

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>> JOEL MURPHY WROTE THIS STORY 

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A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THERE'S JUST

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A COUPLE DOZEN BOSNIANS LEFT IN 

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THE BEVO MILL NEIGHBORHOOD.

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THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE UPSET 

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WITH THIS, BECAUSE, A, THEY WERE

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MOSTLY LEAVING BECAUSE OF CRIME,

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BUT B, I THINK IT KIND OF MISSED

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ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS.

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I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT STORY, 

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BUT IT DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE 

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FACT THAT THE NEXT WAVE OF 

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PEOPLE MOVING INTO THAT 

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NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ALREADY HERE.

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THEY'RE MEXICANS-ON DUR RANCE, 

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CENTRAL AMERICANS THAT OPENED UP

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RESTAURANTS THAT ARE FILLING 

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THESE PLACES THAT USED TO BE 

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OWNED BY BOSNIANS.

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IT'S SORT OF THE CYCLE OF THE 

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CITY.

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THEY MOVED TO THE SUBURBS.

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BOAST OF THEM STAYED IN THE 

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ST. LOUIS AREA AND THE NEIGHBOR 

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HAS A NEW POPULATION THAT'S 

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DOING GREAT THERE. 

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>> AND YOU CAN WRITE THE STORY 

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NOW ABOUT THE SIRIANS WHO ARE --

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SIRIANS WHO ARE LARGELY MOVING 

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FROM THE CITY TO OTHER PLACES 

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AND A LOT OF THE REFUGEES HAVE 

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MOVED TO, I THINK IT'S DEARBORN,

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MICHIGAN, BECAUSE OF THE BIG 

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ARABIC SPEAKING COMMUNITY THERE.

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PEOPLE GET JOBS AND THEY MOVE 

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ON.

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THAT'S ALL G I GUESS.

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IT WOULD BE NICE, THOUGH, FOR US

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TO HAVE A LITTLE DAMASCUS IN THE

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SKE OR A LITTLE BOSNIA, A LITTLE

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NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS FUFRL 

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RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS THAT 

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REFLECT THE ETHNICITY OF THE 

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COUNTRY LIKE THE HILL REFLECTS 

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ITALY. 

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>> SPEAKING OF THE COUNTRY, I 

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THINK WHAT'S FASCINATING ABOUT 

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THIS, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE BLUE 

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PART OF A RED STATE, BUT I DON'T

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KNOW ANYONE THAT DOESN'T THINK 

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THAT THE IMMIGRANTS ISN'T A GOOD

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THING.

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CROSS PARTY LINES, CROSS -- 

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EVERYBODY FEELS THAT'S PART OF 

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OUR HERITAGE.

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WHETHER YOU GO BACK TO THE HILL,

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YOU KNOW, BEING AN ITALIAN AREA 

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OR OTHER ETHNICITIES, AND 

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CERTAINLY -- EVERYBODY WELCOMES 

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THEM AND -- 

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>> I DON'T WANT TO AGREE WITH 

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YOU, RAY, BUT I THINK IT'S 

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UNWELCOMING IN MISSOURI.

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I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY AGREES 

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ACROSS PARTY LINES.

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I THINK THERE'S A NOT OF 

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NATIVISM HERE AND ANTI -- 

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>> I DON'T SEE IT IN ST. LOUIS 

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AT ALL.

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MAYBE IT IS IN MISSOURI 

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THROUGHOUT THE STATE. 

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>> I WISH IT WEREN'T. 

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>> DO YOU SEE IT IN ST. LOUIS?

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>> I DO.

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>> I THINK PEOPLE LIKE DONALD 

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TRUMP PLAYS TO THAT. 

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>> HE DOES.

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THAT'S MY POINT.

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I DON'T FEEL IT IN ST. LOUIS 

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WHEN I -- 

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>> WHEN IT CAME TO THE VISA 

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CONTROVERSY THIS PAST SPRING 

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WHERE LANDSCAPERS WOULDN'T GET 

53:48.820 --> 53:49.688
TEMPORARY WORKERS FROM MEXICO 

53:49.821 --> 53:50.722
BECAUSE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

53:50.856 --> 53:51.590
WAS DRAGGING ITS HEELS AND THERE

53:51.723 --> 53:54.326
ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE 

53:54.459 --> 53:55.627
AGAINST THE TEMPORARY WORKERS 

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COMING HERE FROM MEXICO TO 

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ST. LOUIS. 

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>> WHEN I FIRST BACK HERE IN 

53:59.264 --> 54:00.932
1995, I HAD A FRIEND WHO LIVE 

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JUST TO THE, I GUESS WEST OF 

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BEVO MILL RIGHT OFF OF 

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KINGSHIGHWAY AND THERE WAS -- AT

54:06.938 --> 54:08.740
THAT TIME, I GUESS IT WAS THE 

54:08.874 --> 54:10.642
HEIGHT OF THE BOSNIAN POPULATION

54:10.776 --> 54:13.011
THAT MOVED HERE, THERE WERE A 

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LOT OF VERY NEGATIVE THINGS 

54:14.813 --> 54:16.281
BEING SAID ABOUT THEM, AND I 

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THOUGHT IT WAS THIS COOL THING 

54:17.516 --> 54:19.084
THAT ONLY I HAD READ ABOUT IN 

54:19.217 --> 54:20.285
THE NEWSPAPERS AROUND THE 

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COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE 

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POST-DISPATCH, AND I MOVED BACK,

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HAD A FRIEND WHO HAPPENED TO 

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LIVE THERE AND HE TOLD ME HE HAD

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NO PROBLEM WITH THEM, BUT HE 

54:30.829 --> 54:32.631
SAID UP AND DOWN THIS STREET, 

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CAN'T STAND THEM. 

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>> I PLEAD GUILTY.

54:36.001 --> 54:36.902
I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT -- MAYBE 

54:37.035 --> 54:39.571
I'M JUST BEING AN IDIOT, BUT I 

54:39.704 --> 54:42.741
DIDN'T -- I CAN SEE MISSOURI, 

54:42.874 --> 54:44.176
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A HOT BUTTON 

54:44.309 --> 54:45.944
ISSUE THAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO 

54:46.077 --> 54:47.679
DIVIDE THE COUNTRY WITH, AND 

54:47.813 --> 54:48.547
THAT'S WHY I WAS SURPRISED 

54:48.680 --> 54:51.082
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD 

54:51.216 --> 54:51.416
THING. 

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>> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING,

54:54.052 --> 54:56.087
THE WRITER FOR THE NEW YORK 

54:56.221 --> 54:59.691
TIMES CAME HERE AS A REFUGEE, 

54:59.825 --> 55:04.696
AND SHE WENT TO UNIVERSITY AND 

55:04.830 --> 55:07.098
IS NOW WORKING FOR THE NEW YORK 

55:07.232 --> 55:07.399
TIMES.

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LET'S GO TO THE PAIL BAG.

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I USUAL THE LA DOOR SCHOOL 

55:10.368 --> 55:11.469
DISTRICT TO RECONSIDER IT'S 

55:11.603 --> 55:14.339
POSITION AND TO OFFER THE 

55:14.472 --> 55:15.974
NORMANDY STUDENT AND OPPORTUNITY

55:16.107 --> 55:17.209
TO COMPLETE THEIR GRADUATION 

55:17.342 --> 55:18.543
FROM HIGH SCHOOL.

55:18.677 --> 55:19.477
HE IS WHAT GOOD SCHOOL DISTRICTS

55:19.611 --> 55:21.513
AND CARING COMMUNITIES DO.

55:21.646 --> 55:24.916
THAT FROM JANE BAKER OF 

55:25.050 --> 55:25.550
ST. LOUIS.

55:25.684 --> 55:27.552
PHIL WROTE REGARDING THE STORY 

55:27.686 --> 55:28.520
ABOUT THE GIRLS SOCCER FIELD 

55:28.653 --> 55:30.522
BEING INVADED BY THE BOYS 

55:30.655 --> 55:31.489
FOOTBALL TEAM.

55:31.623 --> 55:33.091
ALL OF YOU MISSED A GREAT 

55:33.225 --> 55:34.226
OPPORTUNITY TO SEND A POWERFUL 

55:34.359 --> 55:34.526
MERGE.

55:34.659 --> 55:36.361
THE STORY WAS ABOUT ADULTS 

55:36.494 --> 55:38.163
BEHAVING POORLY AND SENDING A 

55:38.296 --> 55:39.064
MESSAGE THAT THE BOYS SPACE WAS 

55:39.197 --> 55:40.398
MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE GIRLS 

55:40.532 --> 55:41.666
SPACE.

55:41.800 --> 55:42.334
THANKS, BILL.

55:42.467 --> 55:44.636
YOU CAN ALWAYS WRITE US CARE OF 

55:44.769 --> 55:45.503
KETC, 3655 OLIVE STREET, ST. 

55:45.637 --> 55:46.071
LOUIS, MISSOURI 63108.

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WE LOVE THOSE EMAILS, 

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LETTERS@KETC.ORG AND THOSE 

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55:57.482 --> 55:59.184
THOSE ARE OUR PODCASTS AND WE 

55:59.317 --> 56:00.518
HOPE YOU JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH.

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THAT'S AT THE SHELDON ON SENSE 

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THE 26th.

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THANKS TO SARAH FENSKE FOR 

56:05.390 --> 56:06.424
SITTING IN FOR WENDY WIESE WHO 

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WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.

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SARAH, YOU CAN THROW THAT 

56:09.494 --> 56:10.562
DONNYBRICK IF YOU'D LIKE TO 

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RIGHT NOW.

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OH, GOOD ARM. 

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>> I MISSED.

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YOU MAKE FUN OF ME.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

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US.

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WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

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