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>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

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>>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING

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US FOR THIS EDITION OF

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DONNYBROOK AND WE LOOK FORWARD

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TO SEEING YOU AT DONNYBASH NEXT

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WE'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS LATER IN

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THE PROGRAM, BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF

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HOT TOPICS TO DISCUSS, SO WE'LL

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GET TO THEM.

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FIRST, LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS

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FOR THIS EDITION, STARTING WITH

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SARAH FENSKE FROM KWMU, THE HOST

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OF ST. LOUIS ON THE AIR ON 90.7.

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ALSO WITH US A FOUNDER OF

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DONNYBROOK, BACK IN MICHIGAN,

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BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE

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ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH AND

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STLTODAY.COM.

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HE'S RAY HARTMANN FROM THE BIG

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550 KTRS AND THE RIVERFRONT

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TIMES WHERE HE WRITES A GREAT

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COLUMN.

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AND ANOTHER GREAT COLUMNIST FROM

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THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN AS WELL

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AS 97.1, 590 AND I'M MISSING

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SOMEBODY HERE, ALVIN REID.

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IT WILL BE STLMAG.COM.

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HEY, THE KING OF ALL MEDIA.

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>> TRYING ANYWAY.

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>> SARAH, THANKS SO MUCH FOR

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JOINING US.

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LAST FRIDAY, SHEILA SWEENEY, WHO

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USED TO HEAD UP BOTH THE PORT

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AUTHORITY AND THE ST. LOUIS

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PARTNERSHIP, GOT SENTENCED TO

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ZERO MONTHS IN PRISON FOR HER

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ROLE IN, I GUESS A SCANDAL THAT

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INVOLVED AT LEAST FOUR

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INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING THE

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COUNTY EXECUTIVE WHO'S BEEN

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SENTENCED TO ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

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BUT SHE GOT NO TIME AFTER SHE

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HONEST SERVICES, CORRUPTION.

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SHE HAD AWARDED CONTRACTS AND

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GRANTS TO DONORS OF STEVE

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STENGER WILLINGLY, AND SHE GOT

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PROBATION, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS

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KIND OF INTERESTING WHEN STEVE

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STENGER GOT FOUR YEARS.

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SHE WASN'T EVEN REQUIRED TO, AS

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FAR AS ANY PUBLISH REPORT, TO

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PERFORM COMMUNITY SERVICE, TO

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LADLE SOUP IN A SOUP KITCHEN OR

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ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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DO YOU THINK SHE GOT OFF EASY?

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>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

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FEEL WHAT HAPPENED WAS NOT FAIR.

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THIS WOMAN WAS MAKING $500,000 A

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STEVE STENGER'S PUPPET AND WAS

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PROSPECTS, AND NOW WE FIND OUT

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THAT YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH DOING

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THAT.

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LONG AS YOU'RE NOT THE ONE

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LEADING IT, YOU CAN GO ALONG

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WITH IT AND THAT'S FINE.

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HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I'VE COVERED

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SOME FEDERAL TRIALS WHERE REALLY

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ICKY, ICKY PEOPLE TESTIFIED

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AGAINST PEOPLE WORSE THAN --

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MORE DESPICABLE THAN THEY WERE

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AND SHE GOT A FREE PASS MORE OR

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THAN YOU?

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>> I THINK THEY WANTED STEVE

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STENGER SO BAD, AND I THINK

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SHE'S THE ONE THAT LAID HIM OUT

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ON A PLATTER.

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>> SO YOU THINK SHE'S THE PERSON

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WEARING THE WIRE?

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>> YES, I DO.

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YES, I DO.

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>> I'M WITH SARAH ON THIS.

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YOU MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS SHE

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MADE AND YOU WILLINGLY STEAL

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SHOULD DO TIME.

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THE 7-ELEVEN STORE, SHE'D BE

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LOOKING AT TEN YEARS.

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CERTAINLY SHE SHOULD DO A COUPLE

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YEARS FOR THIS.

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>> MAYBE THE PROSECUTOR SAID,

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HEY, HELP US AND WE'LL HELP YOU.

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>> WHAT'S INTERESTING, IF YOU

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WILLING TO GO ALONG WHEN THEY

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JAFE JOHN RALLO THE SPECIAL

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CONTRACT EVEN THOUGH HE HAD NO

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EXPERIENCE IN MARKETING AND SHE

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HELPED WITH THE WELL STUN DEAL,

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BUT IN THE SUMMER OF 2018, IT

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WAS REPORTED THAT THE FBI WAS

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FOLLOWING HER.

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SHEN THE TRANSCRIPT, SHE'S

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REALLY RELUCTANT TO GIVE JOHN

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BARGER AND ASSOCIATES ANY

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SPECIAL TREATMENT AND YOU CAN

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TELL WHERE SHE BEGAN TO

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COOPERATE WITH THE GOVERNMENT.

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COOPERATION, MEANING IT'S A LOT

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LIKE THE CALCULUS THAT WHEN YOU

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SEE PEOPLE IN THE MUELLER REPORT

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ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AND I

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DON'T REALLY HAVE -- I DON'T

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DISAGREE WITH ANYBODY

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PARTICULARLY ABOUT IT AS MUCH AS

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HOW MUCH, HOW VALUABLE WHAT SHE

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KNEW AND WHAT SHE DID WAS TO THE

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PROBABLY WHAT DETERMINED IT

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ALTHOUGH I HAVE -- WE DON'T KNOW

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FOR SURE WHETHER SHE'S GOT NO

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COMMUNITY SERVICE.

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DON'T -- YOU KNOW, NOT ARGUING

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FOR LENIENCY.

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COOPERATION -- SUSPECT IT HAD TO

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ON THERE SAYING THINGS ABOUT HER

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THAT WERE SO TERRIBLE THAT THE

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HEAVILY, I THINK.

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STENGER BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT HE

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>> SHE WAS THE LINCHPIN BECAUSE

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SHE CONTROLLED THE FUNDS AT THE

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ST. LOUIS PORT AUTHORITY.

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>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

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PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND

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HIS EMPLOYEES WERE BLOCKING HIM

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AT EVERY TURN AND IT WAS ONLY

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THROUGH THIS PORT AUTHORITY AND

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THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

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THAT SHE CONTROLLED THAT HE WAS

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ABLE TO PLACE ALL THESE PEOPLE

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INTO FAKE JOBS.

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EMPLOYEE, PAM WRIGHT, I THINK

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NAME, TRYING TO STOP HIM THE

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>> WELL, I THINK SHE'S WORKING

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IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT NOW, BUT

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SHE DESERVES SOME PRAISE FOR

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TRYING TO THWART IT.

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SITUATION, BUT COME ON, WE GOT

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TO SING.

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I WANT SOMETHING FOR IT.

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>> TAKE YOUR MONEY AND GO.

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>> ALVIN, I WANT TO ASK YOU

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ABOUT THE MLS.

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IT IS OFFICIAL, THE MLS IS

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COMING TO TOWN AND AS SOON AS WE

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BUILD A STADIUM, I GUESS WE'LL

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BE PLAYING IN MAJOR LEAGUE

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SOCCER.

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YOU WERE AT THE ANNOUNCEMENT

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THIS PAST WEEK AND OVERALL, YOU

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THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING JOBS

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AND BUSINESSES TO ST. LOUIS AS

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SOME OF THE BACKERS SUGGEST?

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>> WELL, 400 ON CONSTRUCTION OF

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THE STADIUM OR MAYBE 500, AND

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THEN 450 PERMANENT JOBS, THAT

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WAS IN THE RELESS.

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THEY PROMISED TO -- IN THE

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RELEASE.

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THEY PROMISED TO DO BASICALLY

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THE BEST THEY COULD TO FULL FILT

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MINORITY BUSINESS AND WOMEN

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BUSINESS ENTERPRISE STATUTES FOR

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THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

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THAT COULD MEAN EVERYTHING, THAT

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COULD MEAN NOTHING.

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YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE -- IT'S

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GOOD.

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IT'S GOOD THAT THE DEAL GOT

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DONE.

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IT'S GOOD THAT I THINK ANDY

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TAYLOR AND I KNOW IT'S HIS

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RELATIVES THAT ARE THE THE

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FEMALE OWNERSHIP AND I THINK

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THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT

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ANDY TAYLOR'S BLESSING AND I

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THINK MLS KNEW THAT AND I THINK

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THEY ALSO BLACKMAIL US TO GET

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MORE OUT OF IT TO THE POINT THAT

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THE OWNERSHIP GROUP HAD TO STAND

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UP AND SAY, LISTEN, IF IT

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DOESN'T GET DONE THIS TIME,

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WE'RE NOT COMING BACK, BUT WE

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GOT TO 2018, THAT'S GOOD.

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MAYOR KREWSON CALLED IT

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TRANSFORMATIONAL, NOT.

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17 GAMES OVER FIVE MONTHS,

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THAT'S NOT TRANSFORMATIONAL.

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LEWIS REED SAID GIVING KIDS

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SOMETHING TO DO FROM POOR SIDES

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OF TOWN TO HELP LIFT THEM FROM

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POVERTY, I THINK OUR POVERTY IS

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MORE OUT OF CONTROL THAN THE

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GOOD FOLKS ON THE MLS TEAM

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HELPING TO DEVELOP SOCCER

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PROGRAMS.

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IT IS A GOOD THING, BUT IT IS

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NOT GOING TO FIX THE THINGS THAT

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WE HAVE BROKEN.

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THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

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GOD BLESS THEM FOR BRINGING THE

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TEAM HERE AND I GOT A NICE SCARF

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OUT OF IT.

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>> THERE YOU GO.

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>> I WAS GOING TO --

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>> I THINK IT'S GRK  GOOD, BUT I

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THINK THE PROGRAMS THAT IT'S

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GOING TO BRING BUSINESSES ARE

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PROBABLY EXAGGERATED.

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THERE MIGHT BE SOME BUSINESS

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OWNERS WHO REALLY LIKE SOCCER

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AND THAT WILL MAKE ST. LOUIS

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MORE APPEALING.

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WE HAD THE NFL FOR 20 YEARS AND

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HOW MANY BUSINESSES MOVED TO

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DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS?

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WE PROBABLY LOST MORE THAN WE

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GAIN

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GAINED.

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>> I DON'T THINK IT'S

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ECONOMICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

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IT MIGHT BRING SOME JOBS.

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DEFINITELY THE BEST THING ABOUT

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IT IS IT'S A MORALE WIN FOR A

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CITY THAT NEEDS A MORALE WIN AND

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IT'S GREAT FOR SOCCER FANS AND I

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DO THINK ST. LOUIS WILL DO A

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GREAT JOB OF SUPPORTING IT.

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I THINK THE BIG -- THE

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UNANSWERED QUESTION WITH THESE

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THINGS IS WE'RE NOW AT POINT OF

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THE DEVIL GET INTO THE DETAILS

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AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO

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SEE WHAT IF ANY PUBLIC GOODIES

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THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEY'LL

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GET.

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FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT

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GOING TO OWN THE STADIUM, WHICH

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MEANS THEY'RE NOT PAYING

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PROPERTY TAX TO THE SCHOOLS, AND

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THERE'S THINGS -- WHEN YOU LOOK

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AT WHAT A GOOD INVESTMENT THIS

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IS FOR THE TAYLORS, BEING PART

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OF THE MLS AND I WROTE ABOUT

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THIS AT THE RFT.

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THEY'RE PART OF AN INTERNATIONAL

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MARKETING GROUP, BASICALLY, WHEN

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THEY JOIN THE MLS.

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YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY

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REALLY NEED THAT MUCH HELP.

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>> I THINK YOU'RE BEING TOO

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PICKY ON THIS.

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OVERALL, THIS IS A VERY GOOD

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THING.

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NO ONE REALLY THINKS IT'S GOING

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TO BE TRANSFORMATIONAL AND AS

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FAR AS THIS BEING A GREAT

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INVESTMENT FOR THE TAYLORS,

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MAYBE SO AND MAYBE NOT.

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IT'S BUILT LIKE A PONZI SCHEME,

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RIGHT?

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AND IF I HAD A LOT OF MONEY, I

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WOULDN'T BE THINKING OF PUTTING

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IT INTO SOMETHING THAT LOOKS

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LIKE A PONZI SCHEME.

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>> IT'S NOT A POND SKI SCHEME,

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AND TO YOUR POINT, THE AMOUNT OF

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MONEY THEY HAVE, IT PROBABLY IS

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NOT GOING TO AFFECT THEIR BOTTOM

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LINE.

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I DON'T MEAN THAT.

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I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A GOOD

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INVESTMENT PROBABLY BECAUSE OF

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THE MARKETING COMPONENT.

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>> MAYBE SOCCER BUT I'VE SAID

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THIS -- MAYBE SO, BUT I'VE SAID

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THIS.

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FROM EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN TOLD

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AND READ AND EVERYTHING ELSE,

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MLS'S BUSINESS MODEL IS TO ADD

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TWO TEAMS EVERY THREE OR FOUR

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YEARS AND THAT BRINGS IN ANOTHER

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300, $400 MILLION AND THAT'S

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BASICALLY WHAT KEEPS THIS THING

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AFLOAT.

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THERE'S ONLY TWO OR THREE

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FRANCHISES THAT DECLARE A

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PROFIT.

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I'M NOT IN THEIR BOOKS AND ALL

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THAT, BUT THERE'S VERY FEW TEAMS

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IN THIS LEAGUE THAT OPENLY SAY

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WE ACTUALLY MAKE SOME MONEY.

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SO WHO KNOWS WHAT THE OTHER

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TEAMS ARE DOING?

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>> IT'S THE MARKETING, I'M

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TELLING YOU, AND A PONZI KEEM AS

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CRIME.

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IT'S A NOT A CRIME IT.

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>> DEPENDS ON NEW INVESTMENTS

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COMING IN TO PAY THE OLD

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INVESTMENTS IS WHAT WE'RE

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SAYING.

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I HOPE FOR THE TAYLORS IT WORKS

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WELL.

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>> I DON'T THINK SO, LEAGUES

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HAVE DONE GREAT.

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>> SOCCER IS EXCITING, BUT THE

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IMPORTANT THING IS CRIME IN THE

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STREETS OF ST. LOUIS AND A LOT

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OF ATTENTION RECENTLY HAS BEEN

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PAID TO A HORRIFIC SITUATION,

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SARAH, AND THAT'S ABOUT TEN

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KIDS, MAYBE 11 NOW, UNDER THE

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AGE OF 16 HAVE BEEN KILLED ON

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THE ST. LOUIS STREETS SINCE JUNE

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AND IT'S CLOSE TO 20 FOR THE

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YEAR.

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AND MAYBE THE SADDEST COMMENT

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I'VE EVER SEEN IN PRINT WERE IN

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THE POST-DISPATCH THIS WEEK WHEN

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THE MOTHER OF A SLAIN 7-YEAR-OLD

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SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT

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THAT -- I'M PARAPHRASING HERE --

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MAYBE IT'S JUST AS WELL HE WAS

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SHOT AT THE AGE OF 7 SO HE

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DIDN'T GROW UP THESE STREETS.

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WHAT DID YOU THINK?

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WAS THIS IS GRIEF TALKING OR WAS

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THERE MORE TO THAT?

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>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT BEGAN WITH

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THE GRIEF TALKING, BUT I THINK

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SHE ALSO SAW WHAT HAPPENS IN HER

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NEIGHBOR, WHICH THE HYDE PARK IN

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NORTH CITY, AND THERE ARE SO

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MANY PROBLEMS THERE.

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I THINK WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING

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TO IN THAT LONGER QUOTATION IS

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THAT WHEN SHE SAW THE SHOOTER,

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WHO WAS CHARGED WITH KILLING HER

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SON, SHE REALIZED IF HE GREW UP

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AND TOOK A LONG TIME IN THIS

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REALLY TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD

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THEY'RE IN, THAT COULD HAVE JUST

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AS EASILY BEEN HIM IN TEN YEARS

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AND THAT'S THE MOST

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HEARTBREAKING THING OF ALL TO

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ME, IS THAT'S THE FUTURE SHE

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COULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR

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THIS LITTLE 7-YEAR-OLD BOY.

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XAVIER USANGA WAS HIS NAME.

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I CAN SEE WHERE SHE WAS COMING

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FROM.

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I DON'T THINK SHE WAS INCORRECT

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IN SAYING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN

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HIS FUTURE.

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>> I THINK THAT'S GRIEF TALKING.

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I DON'T WANT TO SAY SHE DIDN'T

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REALLY BELIEVE THAT, BUT I THINK

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THAT IS GRIEF.

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NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS NOT

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BY VIOLENCE.

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MY WIFE AND I LOST AN INFANT SON

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TO NATURAL CAUSES WHEN HE WAS 10

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MONTHS OLD.

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YOU KNOW, WE HAD 10 MONTHS, BUT

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AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE NO IDEA

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WHAT CHANDLER WOULD HAVE GROWN

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UP TO BE.

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HE COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE THE MOST

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SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN IN THE

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WORLD, BUT MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE

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TOOK A WRONG TURN.

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THE THING IS, I WOULD NEVER SAY

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I WISH I NEVER HAD HIM AT ALL

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BECAUSE THAT IS -- NO, HUH-UH.

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I THINK THAT WAS JUST HER TRYING

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TO DEAL WITH THE TRAGEDY THAT

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HIT HER LIFE.

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>> SHE DIDN'T SAY SHE DIDN'T

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WANT TO HAVE HIM AT ALL.

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SHE SAID MAYBE IT GOOD THAT GOD

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HAS TAKEN HIM NOW RATHER THAN

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OLDER.

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>> I'M SAYING IT HAPPENS, BUT I

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COULDN'T -- I DIDN'T FEAR THE

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WORST -- WELL, YOU SAY YOU CAME

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FROM A MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY, BUT

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SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GOING

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TO PLAY OUT.

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I WOULD NEVER EVER SAY MAYBE IT

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WAS BEST BECAUSE MAYBE HE

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WOULDN'T BE EVERYTHING WE

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THOUGHT HE WOULD BE.

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I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT.

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>> WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN WAYS OF

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RESPONDING TO GRIEF.

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11 KIDS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE

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CITY THIS SUMMER AND AT THE SAME

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TIME, YOU HAVE SO MANY YOUNG MEN

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ARRESTED FOR SHOOTING PEOPLE AND

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FOR MURDER AND DOING VIOLENT

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ACTS AND THEY HAVE COMING OUT OF

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THE SAME MILIEU WHERE YOU CAN

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KILL OR BE KILLED AND THAT'S THE

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BIGGEST TRAGEDY OF EVERYTHING.

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>> AND AS A PARENT, TO ME, IT'S

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SO -- THE GRIEF ANY PARENT HAS

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WHEN THEY LOSE A CHILD IS SUCH

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THAT I JUST -- I THINK EVERYBODY

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HANDLES THAT GRIEF DIFFERENTLY

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AND EXPRESSES IT, AND I SORT OF

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JUST THINK -- MAYBE IT'S A

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COPOUT, BUT SORT OF A FREE PASS.

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HOWEVER YOU WANT TO EXPRESS

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YOURSELF IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

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>> IT'S ALMOST SO SAD.

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I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, IF I

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WAS A REPORTER, MAYBE I WOULD

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HAVE ELIMINATED ONLY BECAUSE I

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WOULD HAVE FELT, MAYBE LIKE

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ALVIN, THAT IT WAS THE GRIEF

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TALKING, BUT I TOTALLY

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APPRECIATE YOUR POINT THERE,

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SARAH.

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YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST -- THE

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SITUATION IS SO DIRE.

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ACTUALLY, THERE'S A PROFESSOR

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FROM HARVARD AT THE KENNEDY

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SCHOOL AND HE'S ARRIVING TONIGHT

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AND HE'S GOING TO SPEAK

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TOMORROW.

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HE'S GOING TO BE AT KMOX AT 8:30

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IN THE MORNING.

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HE'S WRITTEN A BOOK CALLED "HOW

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TO STOP THE BLEEDING ON THE

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STREETS," AND HE BELIEVES IF YOU

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FOLLOW HIS PRINCIPLES AS BOSTON

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AND OAKLAND HAVE DONE, YOU CAN

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DECREASE HOMICIDES IN AGE YEARS.

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PEOPLE PLAY WANT TO FOLLOW THAT

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A LITTLE BIT.

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WE'LL TAPE AND PLAY IT ON

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MONDAY.

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WE'LL HAVE A TOWN HALL

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DISCUSSION.

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>> WHAT IS THIS -- CAN YOU SAY

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HOW HE DOES THIS?

517
00:15:00,995 --> 00:15:03,764
>> YEAH, HE BELIEVES, ABT DOES,

518
00:15:03,898 --> 00:15:05,099
THAT YOU NEED TO FIND THE

519
00:15:05,232 --> 00:15:06,100
RELATIVELY FEW INDIVIDUALS IN

520
00:15:06,233 --> 00:15:07,268
THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S USUALLY

521
00:15:07,401 --> 00:15:09,403
250 OR 400 OF THEM, AND YOU

522
00:15:09,537 --> 00:15:09,937
CONFRONT THEM.

523
00:15:10,070 --> 00:15:11,572
YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH

524
00:15:11,705 --> 00:15:13,040
YOU AND WE'LL GET YOU JOBS AND

525
00:15:13,174 --> 00:15:14,575
TRAINING AND WE'LL GIVE YOU

526
00:15:14,708 --> 00:15:15,776
BENEFITS, BUT IF YOU DON'T

527
00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:17,144
ACCEPT OUR OFFER, WE'RE GOING TO

528
00:15:17,278 --> 00:15:17,845
HURT YOU.

529
00:15:17,978 --> 00:15:19,647
WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU AWAY FOR

530
00:15:19,780 --> 00:15:20,748
A LONG TIME.

531
00:15:20,881 --> 00:15:22,817
IT'S REALLY MICRO.

532
00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:24,752
HE FOCUSES ON THE INDIVIDUALS

533
00:15:24,885 --> 00:15:25,753
PERPETRATING THESE CRIMES.

534
00:15:25,886 --> 00:15:26,854
HE SAYS THERE'S NOT THAT

535
00:15:26,987 --> 00:15:27,955
DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT AND HE

536
00:15:28,088 --> 00:15:29,223
SAYS IT HAS WORKED IN OTHER

537
00:15:29,356 --> 00:15:29,924
CITIES AND TOWNS.

538
00:15:30,057 --> 00:15:31,192
>> KIND OF LIKE THE HOT SPOT

539
00:15:31,325 --> 00:15:33,794
POLICING THAT OUR CHIEF HAS BEEN

540
00:15:33,928 --> 00:15:35,863
TALKING ABOUT THAT'S SO MICRO.

541
00:15:35,996 --> 00:15:38,132
>> A LITTLE BIT, BUT HE DOES

542
00:15:38,265 --> 00:15:39,066
DISTINGUISH HIS PROGRAM FROM THE

543
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:39,934
HOT SPOT POLICES.

544
00:15:40,067 --> 00:15:41,635
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO ASK

545
00:15:41,769 --> 00:15:46,006
YOU TO JOIN US ON SEPTEMBER THE

546
00:15:46,140 --> 00:15:47,541
26th FOR DONNYBASH.

547
00:15:47,675 --> 00:15:49,076
OUR ANNUAL FUNDRAISER AND A LOT

548
00:15:49,210 --> 00:15:50,144
OF FUN.

549
00:15:50,277 --> 00:15:53,080
HERE ARE THE DETAILS.

550
00:15:53,214 --> 00:15:54,882
>> FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, THE

551
00:15:55,082 --> 00:15:55,850
DONNYBROOK CAST HAS BEEN SHOWING

552
00:15:55,983 --> 00:15:57,184
UP HERE EVERY WEEK AND ARGUING

553
00:15:57,318 --> 00:15:58,385
ABOUT THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND

554
00:15:58,519 --> 00:15:59,420
THE VARIOUS VIEWPOINTS OF THE

555
00:15:59,553 --> 00:16:01,455
DAY, BUT ALSO IN A WAY THAT YOU

556
00:16:01,589 --> 00:16:02,890
CAN TELL THAT THEY ARE GOOD

557
00:16:03,023 --> 00:16:04,959
FRIENDS AND YOU CAN TELL THAT

558
00:16:05,092 --> 00:16:06,293
THEY RESPECT EACH OTHER'S

559
00:16:06,427 --> 00:16:07,962
OPINIONS EVEN WHEN THEY DIFFER.

560
00:16:08,095 --> 00:16:09,997
AND THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THEM

561
00:16:10,130 --> 00:16:12,132
AND A LOT ABOUT CHANNEL 9.

562
00:16:12,266 --> 00:16:14,201
WE TRY TO BRING PROGRAMS THAT

563
00:16:14,335 --> 00:16:16,237
BRING US INTO COMMUNITY, THAT

564
00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:18,639
BRING US TOGETHER, NOT DIVIDE.

565
00:16:18,772 --> 00:16:20,741
AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO

566
00:16:20,875 --> 00:16:21,809
SUPPORT DONNYBROOK AND ALL THE

567
00:16:21,942 --> 00:16:23,010
OTHER PROGRAMS YOU END JI HERE

568
00:16:23,143 --> 00:16:25,145
ON CHANNEL 9 AND THE NINE

569
00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:25,479
NETWORK.

570
00:16:25,613 --> 00:16:27,414
RIGHT NOW, JOIN US AT THE $5

571
00:16:27,548 --> 00:16:28,082
LEVEL AND WE HAVE SOMETHING

572
00:16:28,215 --> 00:16:28,949
SPECIAL FOR YOU.

573
00:16:29,083 --> 00:16:30,351
IT'S THE DONNYBRICK.

574
00:16:30,484 --> 00:16:32,052
WE HAVE BROUGHT IT BACK AFTER

575
00:16:32,186 --> 00:16:33,087
MANY YEARS.

576
00:16:33,220 --> 00:16:35,523
IT'S A RED FOAM RUBBER BRICK

577
00:16:35,656 --> 00:16:37,558
AND, BY GOLLY, WHEN YOU DON'T

578
00:16:37,691 --> 00:16:40,528
LIKE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM

579
00:16:40,661 --> 00:16:41,662
SOME DONNYBROOKER, YOU CAN JUST

580
00:16:41,795 --> 00:16:43,430
PITCH IT AT THE TV AND YOU'LL

581
00:16:43,564 --> 00:16:45,232
STILL HAVE A TV WHEN YOU GET

582
00:16:45,366 --> 00:16:45,566
DONE.

583
00:16:45,699 --> 00:16:48,402
THAT'S YOURS WITH JUST A $5

584
00:16:48,536 --> 00:16:49,904
MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE NINE

585
00:16:50,037 --> 00:16:50,237
NETWORK.

586
00:16:50,371 --> 00:16:53,374
IF YOU PREFER, YOU CAN HAVE ONE

587
00:16:53,507 --> 00:16:55,242
TICKET TO SEE DONNYBROOK LIVE

588
00:16:55,376 --> 00:16:58,512
AND IN PERSON, DONNYBASH COMING

589
00:16:58,646 --> 00:17:03,317
UP AT THE MEMORIAL ON SEPTEMBER

590
00:17:03,450 --> 00:17:04,785
26th AND ALL THE GUYS WILL BE

591
00:17:04,919 --> 00:17:05,152
THERE.

592
00:17:05,286 --> 00:17:07,488
YOU'LL GET TO MEET THEM BEFORE

593
00:17:07,621 --> 00:17:09,256
AND AFTER THE SHOW.

594
00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:11,592
IT'S A LIVE BROADCAST AND THAT'S

595
00:17:11,725 --> 00:17:13,260
YOURS AT THE $12 LEVEL.

596
00:17:13,394 --> 00:17:16,230
YOU'LL GET TWO TICKETS TO

597
00:17:16,363 --> 00:17:16,597
DONNYBASH.

598
00:17:16,730 --> 00:17:17,865
YOU'LL ALSO GET THE DONNYBRICK.

599
00:17:17,998 --> 00:17:19,867
IT'S ALL THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU

600
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,169
JOIN US AT JUST $12 A MONTH.

601
00:17:22,303 --> 00:17:23,203
AND NOW, BACK TO MORE OF

602
00:17:23,337 --> 00:17:26,040
DONNYBROOK.

603
00:17:26,173 --> 00:17:26,974
>> ABSOLUTELY.

604
00:17:27,107 --> 00:17:28,208
AND THAT DONNYBROOK HAS NOT BEEN

605
00:17:28,342 --> 00:17:29,944
ON THE SET, I THINK, IN 20 YEARS

606
00:17:30,077 --> 00:17:30,644
OR SO.

607
00:17:30,778 --> 00:17:32,880
I BELIEVE THAT WAS A MARTIN

608
00:17:33,013 --> 00:17:35,282
DUGGAN CREATION BACK IN THE MID

609
00:17:35,416 --> 00:17:35,983
1990s.

610
00:17:36,116 --> 00:17:39,553
NOW BEING MODELED BY SARAH

611
00:17:39,687 --> 00:17:42,489
FENSKE FROM KWMU AND WE'LL SEE

612
00:17:42,623 --> 00:17:43,657
HOW HER THROWING ARM IS.

613
00:17:43,791 --> 00:17:45,459
THE IDEA IS WHEN YOU SEE

614
00:17:45,593 --> 00:17:47,728
SOMETHING ON THE SCREEN --

615
00:17:47,861 --> 00:17:48,128
[ LAUGHTER ]

616
00:17:48,262 --> 00:17:49,496
-- YOU THROW THE DONNYBRICK,

617
00:17:49,630 --> 00:17:51,098
IT'S NICE AND SOFT, AT THE

618
00:17:51,231 --> 00:17:53,834
SCREEN AND IT RELEASES

619
00:17:53,968 --> 00:17:54,234
ENDORPHINS.

620
00:17:54,368 --> 00:17:56,236
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

621
00:17:56,370 --> 00:17:57,905
SOME STUDY WILL CORROBORATE MY

622
00:17:58,038 --> 00:18:03,611
THINKING THERE.

623
00:18:03,744 --> 00:18:04,812
THE SHOW-ME INSTITUTE, SCHOOL.

624
00:18:04,945 --> 00:18:06,981
YOU GET THE DONNYBRICK, WHICH IS

625
00:18:07,114 --> 00:18:08,849
A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE FOR

626
00:18:08,983 --> 00:18:11,085
SOME, AND IT'S ALL PART OF YOUR

627
00:18:11,218 --> 00:18:12,486
CONTRIBUTION WHICH HELPS THE

628
00:18:12,620 --> 00:18:13,988
NINE NETWORK PROVIDE GREAT

629
00:18:14,121 --> 00:18:14,722
COMMERCIAL-FREE PROGRAMMING ALL

630
00:18:14,855 --> 00:18:15,623
YEAR LONG.

631
00:18:15,756 --> 00:18:18,592
IN FACT, THE BEST PROGRAMMING

632
00:18:18,726 --> 00:18:19,793
AROUND AND I BELIEVE THIS FALL,

633
00:18:19,927 --> 00:18:23,330
WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, RAY,

634
00:18:23,464 --> 00:18:25,065
THE COUNTRY MUSIC DOCUMENTARY

635
00:18:25,199 --> 00:18:26,600
THAT KEN BURNS IS PUTTING

636
00:18:26,734 --> 00:18:27,034
TOGETHER.

637
00:18:27,167 --> 00:18:29,336
THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE US THE

638
00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:31,205
CIVIL WAR, BASEBALL, JAZZ,

639
00:18:31,338 --> 00:18:33,374
VIETNAM, WORLD WAR II, IS BACK

640
00:18:33,507 --> 00:18:34,575
WITH COUNTRY MUSIC AND THAT'S

641
00:18:34,708 --> 00:18:35,275
GOING TO BE GREAT.

642
00:18:35,409 --> 00:18:37,411
>> AS I SAID, ST. LOUIS HAS ONE

643
00:18:37,544 --> 00:18:38,646
OF THE STRONGEST PBS STATIONS IN

644
00:18:38,779 --> 00:18:40,414
THE COUNTRY AND I THINK THAT'S A

645
00:18:40,547 --> 00:18:42,316
BIG PART, BEING PART OF THE

646
00:18:42,449 --> 00:18:43,817
NETWORK AND I DO REMEMBER,

647
00:18:43,951 --> 00:18:45,219
THOUGH, WHEN THESE FIRST CAME

648
00:18:45,352 --> 00:18:47,021
OUT, THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE, I

649
00:18:47,154 --> 00:18:48,689
REMEMBER, SUGGESTING THAT YOU

650
00:18:48,822 --> 00:18:49,423
USE REAL BRICKS.

651
00:18:49,556 --> 00:18:49,923
I DON'T KNOW.

652
00:18:50,057 --> 00:18:52,226
I REMEMBER THAT BEING A BRIEF

653
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,195
CONTROVERSY.

654
00:18:55,329 --> 00:18:58,565
BUT NO, BEING PART OF THE PBS

655
00:18:58,699 --> 00:19:00,868
LINE-UP IS JUST GREAT FOR

656
00:19:01,001 --> 00:19:02,136
ST. LOUIS AND IT'S -- WE'RE JUST

657
00:19:02,269 --> 00:19:03,303
ONE LITTLE PIECE OF IT.

658
00:19:03,437 --> 00:19:04,571
>> IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF

659
00:19:04,705 --> 00:19:06,106
IT, FOR SURE, ALL THE GREAT

660
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:06,607
PROGRAMMING HERE.

661
00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:07,941
>> ABSOLUTELY AND IT'S A FUN

662
00:19:08,075 --> 00:19:08,242
NIGHT.

663
00:19:08,375 --> 00:19:11,478
IT REALLY AS FUN NIGHT.

664
00:19:11,612 --> 00:19:13,213
THOSE THAT COME SAY I DIDN'T

665
00:19:13,347 --> 00:19:14,248
EXPECT IT TO BE THIS FUN.

666
00:19:14,381 --> 00:19:15,616
YOU THINK, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT

667
00:19:15,749 --> 00:19:16,750
IT TO BE?

668
00:19:16,884 --> 00:19:17,785
>> WHY ARE YOU HERE?

669
00:19:17,918 --> 00:19:21,121
>> RIGHT.

670
00:19:21,255 --> 00:19:23,057
BUT, NO, IT'S A GREAT EVENING.

671
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:25,359
I THINK PEOPLE ARE AMAZED THAT

672
00:19:25,492 --> 00:19:27,261
IT REALLY IS LIVE TELEVISION.

673
00:19:27,394 --> 00:19:29,496
FOR SOME REASON, THEY THINK LIVE

674
00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:34,568
TELEVISION MEANS LIKE JOHNNY

675
00:19:34,702 --> 00:19:35,502
CARSON USED TO BE.

676
00:19:35,636 --> 00:19:37,871
IT WAS TAPED AT 5:30 AND CAME ON

677
00:19:38,005 --> 00:19:39,473
AT 10:30 OUR TIME, BUT NO,

678
00:19:39,606 --> 00:19:41,408
YOU'RE THERE, YOU SEE, IT'S LIVE

679
00:19:41,542 --> 00:19:42,376
AND THAT'S A COOL THING.

680
00:19:42,509 --> 00:19:43,677
>> IT IS INDEED.

681
00:19:43,811 --> 00:19:44,978
CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN,

682
00:19:45,112 --> 00:19:47,014
GET A DONNYBRICK AND JOIN US AT

683
00:19:47,147 --> 00:19:48,682
DONNYBASH SEPTEMBER THE 26th AT

684
00:19:48,816 --> 00:19:50,217
THE SHELDON.

685
00:19:53,353 --> 00:19:55,255
BILL McCLELLAN, I WANT TO ASK

686
00:19:55,456 --> 00:19:56,290
YOU ABOUT BODY CAMS.

687
00:19:56,423 --> 00:19:57,658
MAYOR LYDA KREWSON AND THE CITY

688
00:19:57,791 --> 00:19:58,792
OF ST. LOUIS SAYS SHE'S MOVING

689
00:19:58,926 --> 00:20:00,327
CLOSER TO BODY CAMS.

690
00:20:00,461 --> 00:20:03,363
SHE ALSO SAID THIS WEEK SHE'S

691
00:20:03,497 --> 00:20:06,433
CLOSER TO ENDORSING A PLAN

692
00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:08,102
CALLED CURE VIOLENCE BY

693
00:20:08,235 --> 00:20:09,470
ALDERMANIC PRESIDENT LEWIS REED

694
00:20:09,603 --> 00:20:10,938
WHICH WOULD TRY AND CUT THE

695
00:20:11,071 --> 00:20:12,506
BLEEDING IN THE STREETS, BUT THE

696
00:20:12,639 --> 00:20:13,874
BODY CAMS ARE KIND OF

697
00:20:14,007 --> 00:20:15,209
INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK A

698
00:20:15,342 --> 00:20:16,243
LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING

699
00:20:16,376 --> 00:20:17,845
FOR THEM FOR A LONG TIME.

700
00:20:17,978 --> 00:20:19,446
THE CITY JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE

701
00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:19,747
MONEY.

702
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,248
DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REALLY

703
00:20:21,381 --> 00:20:22,349
PAY POLICE OFFICERS SO THEY CAN

704
00:20:22,483 --> 00:20:23,984
GET A FULL COMPLEMENT AND IF THE

705
00:20:24,118 --> 00:20:25,452
CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR

706
00:20:25,586 --> 00:20:27,354
DECENT PAY FOR POLICE OFFICERS

707
00:20:27,488 --> 00:20:30,224
AND TWO OFFICERS PER PATROL CAR,

708
00:20:30,357 --> 00:20:31,759
SHOULD IT HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND

709
00:20:31,892 --> 00:20:32,426
BODY CAMS?

710
00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:34,294
>> I THINK YOU GOT TO FIND THE

711
00:20:34,428 --> 00:20:37,364
MONEY TO FUND BODY CAMS.

712
00:20:37,498 --> 00:20:39,399
AND I THINK MOST POLICE OFFICERS

713
00:20:39,533 --> 00:20:41,468
ARE FINE WITH IT, TOO, BECAUSE

714
00:20:41,602 --> 00:20:45,005
ANYTIME THEY'RE OUT ON THE

715
00:20:45,139 --> 00:20:48,408
STREETS, SOMEBODY'S ALREADY --

716
00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:49,943
CRIME SCENES ARE SO DIFFERENT

717
00:20:50,077 --> 00:20:52,146
THAN THEY USED TO BE,

718
00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:53,480
EVERYBODY'S THERE WITH A CAMERA

719
00:20:53,614 --> 00:20:55,983
NOW, SO THE POLICE ARE ALREADY

720
00:20:56,116 --> 00:20:57,050
ACCUSTOMED TO BEING FILMED.

721
00:20:57,184 --> 00:20:59,787
I THINK THIS IS PROTECTION FOR

722
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,723
THE COPS AS MUCH AS IT WILL

723
00:21:02,856 --> 00:21:03,590
PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM BEING

724
00:21:03,724 --> 00:21:05,125
RIDICULOUS OUT THERE, I THINK.

725
00:21:05,259 --> 00:21:07,094
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD.

726
00:21:07,227 --> 00:21:10,731
>> I DO, TOO, AND HOW MUCH IS

727
00:21:10,864 --> 00:21:12,266
THE ST. LOUIS METROPOLITAN

728
00:21:12,399 --> 00:21:13,267
POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING TO END

729
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,869
UP PAYING PROBABLY TO THE POLICE

730
00:21:16,003 --> 00:21:17,704
OFFICER WHO IS UNDER COVER THAT

731
00:21:17,838 --> 00:21:19,573
THE OTHER POLICE OFFICERS BEAT

732
00:21:19,706 --> 00:21:19,940
UP?

733
00:21:20,073 --> 00:21:20,240
OKAY?

734
00:21:20,374 --> 00:21:20,841
THAT'S A LAWSUIT.

735
00:21:20,974 --> 00:21:24,578
IT WILL GET SETTLED OR WHATEVER,

736
00:21:24,711 --> 00:21:24,878
MONEY.

737
00:21:25,012 --> 00:21:27,114
THE YOUNG POLICE OFFICER, YOU

738
00:21:27,247 --> 00:21:28,582
KNOW, WHO WAS KILLED AND THE TWO

739
00:21:28,715 --> 00:21:30,217
COPS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON DUTY

740
00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:31,852
AND SHE GOT SHOT.

741
00:21:31,985 --> 00:21:36,523
IF THEY HAD BODY CAMS ON, IT

742
00:21:36,657 --> 00:21:37,558
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE BECAUSE

743
00:21:37,691 --> 00:21:39,960
THE SECOND IT GOES OFF, YOU KNOW

744
00:21:40,093 --> 00:21:40,828
THAT YOU'VE TOLD ON YOURSELF

745
00:21:40,961 --> 00:21:42,262
THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON.

746
00:21:42,396 --> 00:21:44,064
IT'S A GOOD THING IN THAT IF I'M

747
00:21:44,198 --> 00:21:46,366
A PROPER POLICE OFFICER, I WANT

748
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,235
ONE ON BECAUSE IT DEFUSES

749
00:21:48,368 --> 00:21:50,537
PROBABLY 99.5% OF ANY KIND OF

750
00:21:50,671 --> 00:21:51,271
ALTERCATION WITH THE PUBLIC EVEN

751
00:21:51,405 --> 00:21:55,576
IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE, YOU KNOW,

752
00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:55,909
DEADLY.

753
00:21:56,043 --> 00:21:56,844
THEY HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONE'S

754
00:21:56,977 --> 00:21:57,144
LIFE.

755
00:21:57,277 --> 00:21:58,478
I THINK THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH

756
00:21:58,612 --> 00:22:01,915
UPHOLD WHAT THEY SAID, SO I

757
00:22:02,049 --> 00:22:02,583
WOULD WANT ONE.

758
00:22:02,716 --> 00:22:04,318
YOU GOT TO FIND THE MONEY FOR

759
00:22:04,451 --> 00:22:04,585
IT.

760
00:22:04,718 --> 00:22:05,953
I KNOW A CERTAIN SECTOR OF THE

761
00:22:06,086 --> 00:22:06,687
POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT

762
00:22:06,820 --> 00:22:07,888
ANY PART OF IT.

763
00:22:08,021 --> 00:22:09,323
I THINK THAT'S OLD-SCHOOL

764
00:22:09,456 --> 00:22:10,424
THINKING AND I WOULD WANT TO

765
00:22:10,557 --> 00:22:11,091
WEAR ONE.

766
00:22:11,225 --> 00:22:12,292
>> I THINK THERE'S ONE HUGE

767
00:22:12,426 --> 00:22:13,927
PROBLEM WITH IT AND THAT'S THERE

768
00:22:14,061 --> 00:22:15,462
THERE WAS APPARENTLY A STATE LAW

769
00:22:15,596 --> 00:22:16,830
PASSED A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHERE

770
00:22:16,964 --> 00:22:17,664
THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS FOOTAGE

771
00:22:17,798 --> 00:22:19,967
WILL NOT BE RELEASED AS LONG AS

772
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:20,567
SOMETHING IS UNDER

773
00:22:20,701 --> 00:22:21,001
INVESTIGATION.

774
00:22:21,134 --> 00:22:22,402
NOW, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN

775
00:22:22,536 --> 00:22:24,037
WORKING JOURNALISTS, WE KNOW

776
00:22:24,171 --> 00:22:25,239
THAT WHEN THEY DECIDE THAT THEY

777
00:22:25,372 --> 00:22:26,707
DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE RECORDS

778
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,376
ON SOMETHING, THEY WILL SAY IT

779
00:22:29,509 --> 00:22:31,078
IS UNDER INVESTIGATION, YEARS

780
00:22:31,211 --> 00:22:32,379
WILL PASS, YOUR CHILDREN WILL

781
00:22:32,512 --> 00:22:33,814
GROW UP AND GO TO COLLEGE, THIS

782
00:22:33,947 --> 00:22:35,215
THING IS STILL UNDER

783
00:22:35,349 --> 00:22:35,649
INVESTIGATION.

784
00:22:35,782 --> 00:22:36,750
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RELEASE

785
00:22:36,884 --> 00:22:38,285
THAT FOOTAGE, WHAT GOOD IS

786
00:22:38,418 --> 00:22:38,585
THERE?

787
00:22:38,719 --> 00:22:40,921
>> ACCESS IS GOING TO BE A FUN

788
00:22:41,054 --> 00:22:43,657
PART OF THE WHOLE THING.

789
00:22:43,790 --> 00:22:44,558
IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE THING ON

790
00:22:44,691 --> 00:22:46,927
THE PART OF THE MEDIA, BUT ALSO

791
00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:48,495
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S A

792
00:22:48,629 --> 00:22:49,296
DOMESTIC ASSAULT AND THE POLICE

793
00:22:49,429 --> 00:22:51,164
GO UP THERE AND THE HUSBAND AND

794
00:22:51,298 --> 00:22:53,367
THE WIFE ARE GOING AT EACH

795
00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:53,667
OTHER?

796
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,168
WHO GETS ACCESS TO THAT?

797
00:22:55,302 --> 00:22:57,437
I MEAN, WHAT IF SOMEBODY --

798
00:22:57,571 --> 00:22:59,673
WELL, THE POLICE MISBEHAVED, SO

799
00:22:59,806 --> 00:23:02,542
THEN WE GET TO LOOK AT IT?

800
00:23:02,676 --> 00:23:03,243
OR DIVORCE LAWYERS?

801
00:23:03,377 --> 00:23:05,279
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF

802
00:23:05,412 --> 00:23:06,947
FILM OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE

803
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,415
GOING TO WISH WASN'T THERE.

804
00:23:08,548 --> 00:23:09,917
>> IN SOME COMMUNITIES, YOU'RE

805
00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:11,952
NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THE POLICE

806
00:23:12,085 --> 00:23:13,687
CAM, THE BODY CAM INTO A HOME.

807
00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:15,255
IT CAN ONLY BE ON THE STREETS

808
00:23:15,389 --> 00:23:16,023
AND THE SIDEWALK.

809
00:23:16,156 --> 00:23:17,691
>> WELL, THAT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH

810
00:23:17,824 --> 00:23:18,025
SENSE.

811
00:23:18,158 --> 00:23:19,593
>> WELL, YOU GOT PRIVACY IN

812
00:23:19,726 --> 00:23:20,260
PEOPLE'S HOMES.

813
00:23:20,394 --> 00:23:22,095
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE

814
00:23:22,229 --> 00:23:23,497
FILMED AND LET'S SAY YOU'RE IN

815
00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:24,631
YOUR BEDROOM AND YOU'RE FILMED

816
00:23:24,765 --> 00:23:26,033
BY THE POLICE AND THEN

817
00:23:26,166 --> 00:23:28,068
SOMEONE -- SOME MEDIA OUTLET

818
00:23:28,201 --> 00:23:29,770
SUBPOENAS IT OR WANTS TO SEE IT

819
00:23:29,903 --> 00:23:31,338
AND SHOW IT TO THE WORLD.

820
00:23:31,471 --> 00:23:33,707
THAT'S NOT FAIR FOR YOU.

821
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,741
>> I THINK HAVING BODY CAMERAS

822
00:23:34,875 --> 00:23:36,743
SHOULD BE SORT OF POLICE 101

823
00:23:36,877 --> 00:23:38,378
NOW, SO I'M IN AGREEMENT,

824
00:23:38,512 --> 00:23:39,379
ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S KIND OF

825
00:23:39,513 --> 00:23:42,282
THING -- I DON'T KNOW, IT'S THE

826
00:23:42,416 --> 00:23:44,818
MLS, GOOD NOT GREAT BECAUSE OF

827
00:23:44,952 --> 00:23:47,421
THE POINT SARAH RAISED, FIRST OF

828
00:23:47,554 --> 00:23:49,156
ALL, AND THE POLICE CAN SAY --

829
00:23:49,289 --> 00:23:50,290
THE OFFICERS UNION THAT'S

830
00:23:50,424 --> 00:23:51,525
LUKEWARM TO IT CAN MAKE THE

831
00:23:51,658 --> 00:23:52,459
POINT THAT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT

832
00:23:52,592 --> 00:23:54,728
THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS TO BE

833
00:23:54,861 --> 00:23:55,028
DONE.

834
00:23:55,162 --> 00:23:56,630
THEY HAVE 153 POSITIONS TO FILL

835
00:23:56,763 --> 00:23:58,832
THAT THEY AREN'T FILLING AND I

836
00:23:58,966 --> 00:24:00,400
STILL THINK THEY NEED TO DO

837
00:24:00,534 --> 00:24:01,401
THIS, BUT THEY ALSO AT SOME

838
00:24:01,535 --> 00:24:03,804
POINT -- IT'S GREAT FOR US TO

839
00:24:03,937 --> 00:24:05,973
SIT HERE AND TALK WEEK IN AND

840
00:24:06,106 --> 00:24:07,074
WEEK OUT ABOUT THE CRIME.

841
00:24:07,207 --> 00:24:08,508
THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY

842
00:24:08,642 --> 00:24:10,944
IN THE CITY TO HIRE -- AND I'M

843
00:24:11,078 --> 00:24:12,612
SOMEBODY THAT THINKS THAT THE

844
00:24:12,746 --> 00:24:13,780
EXPERT YOU GOT COMING IN DEALING

845
00:24:13,914 --> 00:24:16,083
WITH THE CAUSES OF CRIME IS A

846
00:24:16,216 --> 00:24:18,118
BETTER SOLUTION THAN MORE COPS,

847
00:24:18,251 --> 00:24:19,419
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU GOT TO

848
00:24:19,553 --> 00:24:20,988
FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FILL

849
00:24:21,121 --> 00:24:21,922
UNFILLED POSITIONS.

850
00:24:22,055 --> 00:24:24,524
>> THAT'S THE WHOLE THING.

851
00:24:24,658 --> 00:24:29,062
WE'VE BEEN 110 OR 150 OFFICERS

852
00:24:29,196 --> 00:24:30,897
SHORT OF A FULL COMPLEMENT FOR

853
00:24:31,031 --> 00:24:31,865
AT LEAST THREE YEARS.

854
00:24:31,999 --> 00:24:33,333
>> THAT DOES NOT ARGUE AGAINST

855
00:24:33,467 --> 00:24:33,800
BODY CAMERAS.

856
00:24:33,934 --> 00:24:35,569
>> YOU ASK SOMEONE LIVING IN

857
00:24:35,702 --> 00:24:36,536
NORTH ST. LOUIS OR SOUTH

858
00:24:36,670 --> 00:24:38,238
ST. LOUIS, WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT

859
00:24:38,372 --> 00:24:38,739
TO YOU?

860
00:24:38,872 --> 00:24:40,240
A POLICE OFFICER WITH A BODY

861
00:24:40,374 --> 00:24:41,608
CAMERA OR MORE POLICE ON THE

862
00:24:41,742 --> 00:24:43,310
STREET, TWO COPS IN A PATROL

863
00:24:43,443 --> 00:24:45,245
CAR, A QUICKER RESPONSE TIME?

864
00:24:45,379 --> 00:24:46,279
I DON'T THINK BODY CAMS ARE

865
00:24:46,413 --> 00:24:46,947
GOING TO WIN.

866
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,382
>> BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE --

867
00:24:48,515 --> 00:24:50,283
IT'S A FALSE CHOICE, I THINK.

868
00:24:50,417 --> 00:24:51,151
>> NO, IT'S NOT.

869
00:24:51,284 --> 00:24:52,319
IT'S A LIMITED PIE.

870
00:24:52,452 --> 00:24:53,754
A LIMITED BUDGET.

871
00:24:53,887 --> 00:24:55,489
>> THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR BODY

872
00:24:55,622 --> 00:24:57,858
CAMERAS, I THINK IT'S A FALSE

873
00:24:57,991 --> 00:24:58,191
CHOICE.

874
00:24:58,325 --> 00:24:59,226
>> MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

875
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,261
>> IS THAT A YEAR OR A

876
00:25:01,395 --> 00:25:01,828
ONE-TIME --

877
00:25:01,962 --> 00:25:04,564
>> BEYOND THE COST OF BODY

878
00:25:04,698 --> 00:25:06,533
CAMERAS, THE COST OF STORAGE IS

879
00:25:06,666 --> 00:25:06,933
TREMENDOUS.

880
00:25:07,067 --> 00:25:08,468
AT ONE POINT LEWIS REED

881
00:25:08,602 --> 00:25:09,569
ANNOUNCED, I HAVE THERE DEAL TO

882
00:25:09,703 --> 00:25:11,204
GET BODY CAMERAS FOR FREE, BUT

883
00:25:11,338 --> 00:25:12,672
THEY NEEDED A MILLION DOLLARS A

884
00:25:12,806 --> 00:25:14,341
YEAR JUST TO STORE THE FOOTAGE.

885
00:25:14,474 --> 00:25:15,776
THEY'RE MASSIVE ONGOING COSTS ON

886
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:16,076
THIS.

887
00:25:16,209 --> 00:25:18,311
CHARLIE IS RIGHT, THE BUDGET IS

888
00:25:18,445 --> 00:25:19,913
NOT INFINITE.

889
00:25:20,047 --> 00:25:22,416
>> SPEAKING OF POLICE OFFICERS,

890
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:24,317
YOU WERE TALKING TO A FORMER ONE

891
00:25:24,451 --> 00:25:26,853
LAST NIGHT ON YOUR 550 RADIO

892
00:25:26,987 --> 00:25:27,154
SHOW.

893
00:25:27,287 --> 00:25:28,021
TIM FITCH WAS THE CHIEF OF

894
00:25:28,155 --> 00:25:29,089
POLICE FOR THE COUNTY AND NOW

895
00:25:29,222 --> 00:25:31,358
HE'S A COUNTY COUNCILMAN AND YOU

896
00:25:31,491 --> 00:25:33,560
DON'T HEAR ANY POLITICIAN ASKING

897
00:25:33,693 --> 00:25:35,695
FOR LIBRARY TRUSTEES TO BE FIRED

898
00:25:35,829 --> 00:25:36,997
TOO OFTEN, BUT THAT'S THE CASE

899
00:25:37,130 --> 00:25:40,167
RIGHT NOW WHERE HE WANTS EVERY

900
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:43,637
SINGLE ONE TO STEP DOWN AFTER A

901
00:25:43,770 --> 00:25:44,938
CONTROVERSIAL REAL ESTATE DEAL

902
00:25:45,072 --> 00:25:46,373
IN FRONTENAC WHERE THEY BOUGHT

903
00:25:46,506 --> 00:25:47,908
PROPERTY FOR $6 MILLION THAT HAD

904
00:25:48,041 --> 00:25:50,677
BEEN APPRAISED FOR $2 MILLION,

905
00:25:50,811 --> 00:25:52,279
AND WOW, IT'S GROUND HOG DAY ALL

906
00:25:52,412 --> 00:25:52,813
OVER AGAIN.

907
00:25:52,946 --> 00:25:54,514
DIDN'T WE DO THIS WITH THE

908
00:25:54,648 --> 00:25:55,549
HISTORY MUSEUM RECENTLY?

909
00:25:55,682 --> 00:25:56,683
>> FIRST OF ALL, HE WAS TALKING

910
00:25:56,817 --> 00:25:59,186
NOT IN HIS POLICE CONTEXT, SO HE

911
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:00,420
WASN'T SUGGESTING ANY CRIMES HAD

912
00:26:00,554 --> 00:26:01,121
BEEN COMMITTED.

913
00:26:01,254 --> 00:26:01,555
>> TRUE.

914
00:26:01,688 --> 00:26:03,056
>> BUT HE ACTUALLY WAS MORE

915
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:04,524
MODERATE THAN I WOULD BE.

916
00:26:04,658 --> 00:26:06,126
HE BASICALLY HAS CALLED -- AND

917
00:26:06,259 --> 00:26:07,427
GOOD FOR HIM.

918
00:26:07,561 --> 00:26:11,231
HE'S CALLED, IF YOU FOLLOW MOST

919
00:26:11,364 --> 00:26:13,166
PEOPLE, BUT THE COUNTY LIBRARY,

920
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,702
ENABLED BY A RIDICULOUS STATE

921
00:26:15,836 --> 00:26:18,772
STATUTE THAT EMPOWERS THEM TO

922
00:26:18,905 --> 00:26:20,173
OVERRIDE A LOCAL COMMUNITY'S

923
00:26:20,307 --> 00:26:22,042
ZONING, HAS JUST DECIDED, YOU

924
00:26:22,175 --> 00:26:23,810
KNOW, TO JUST TELL FRONTENAC,

925
00:26:23,944 --> 00:26:25,045
WHICH IS NOT NORMALLY A PLACE

926
00:26:25,178 --> 00:26:29,783
YOU THINK OF AS, YOU KNOW,

927
00:26:29,916 --> 00:26:30,951
IMPOVERISHED COMMUNITY,

928
00:26:31,084 --> 00:26:32,385
BASICALLY TOO BAD, WE'RE GOING

929
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:33,587
TO TAKE THIS SPOT AND WE'RE

930
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,555
GOING TO DO THIS FACILITY, WHICH

931
00:26:35,689 --> 00:26:39,226
IS LARGELY A STORAGE THING, AND

932
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,494
TIM IS RIGHT THAT REALLY THE

933
00:26:40,627 --> 00:26:42,395
INDIVIDUALS ON THE BOARD, HE

934
00:26:42,529 --> 00:26:43,563
ACTUALLY THINKS THEY OUGHT TO BE

935
00:26:43,697 --> 00:26:45,832
REMOVED ONE AT A TIME TO

936
00:26:45,966 --> 00:26:46,500
PRESERVE THE INSTITUTIONAL

937
00:26:46,633 --> 00:26:48,101
MEMORY OF THE LIBRARY BOARD.

938
00:26:48,235 --> 00:26:51,204
MY OWN VIEW IS THAT GIVEN THAT

939
00:26:51,338 --> 00:26:53,640
THEY ARE ALL FILLING ON EXPIRED

940
00:26:53,773 --> 00:26:55,075
TERMS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE

941
00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:55,375
FIRED.

942
00:26:55,509 --> 00:26:56,343
THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE

943
00:26:56,476 --> 00:26:57,677
COUNTY COUNCIL SIMPLY NEED TO

944
00:26:57,811 --> 00:26:59,813
REPLACE THEM AND THAT'S EXACTLY

945
00:26:59,946 --> 00:27:01,448
WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WITH ALL

946
00:27:01,581 --> 00:27:02,415
FIVE OF THEM.

947
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:03,583
>> I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE

948
00:27:03,717 --> 00:27:06,186
GONE YESTERDAY, BUT I LIKE TO

949
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:09,422
POINT OUT LEAH THORSON OF THE

950
00:27:09,556 --> 00:27:10,223
POST-DISPATCH IS THE WOMAN WHO

951
00:27:10,357 --> 00:27:12,259
WROTE THIS STORY, AND NO ONE HAD

952
00:27:12,392 --> 00:27:13,827
HEARD OF THEM.

953
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,495
THIS IS WHAT NEWSPAPERS CAN DO.

954
00:27:15,629 --> 00:27:17,130
TAKE SOMETHING LIKE THE LIBRARY

955
00:27:17,264 --> 00:27:18,131
DISTRICT, WHO WOULD HAVE

956
00:27:18,265 --> 00:27:18,465
THOUGHT?

957
00:27:18,598 --> 00:27:21,234
AND THESE PEOPLE, THEY VIOLATED

958
00:27:21,368 --> 00:27:22,302
THEIR OWN BYLAWS.

959
00:27:22,435 --> 00:27:23,370
YOU KNOW, THEIR BYLAWS CALL FOR

960
00:27:23,503 --> 00:27:25,438
THEM TO GET ESTIMATES, AND THEY

961
00:27:25,572 --> 00:27:27,874
JUST WENT AHEAD AND DID THIS,

962
00:27:28,008 --> 00:27:30,644
SPENT PUBLIC MONEY LIKE NOTHING.

963
00:27:30,777 --> 00:27:31,945
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE --

964
00:27:32,078 --> 00:27:36,249
>> MAYBE I AGREE, MAYBE I DON'T,

965
00:27:36,383 --> 00:27:38,485
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS TIM'S

966
00:27:38,618 --> 00:27:40,420
PLACE TO CALL FOR THEM TO BE

967
00:27:40,554 --> 00:27:41,821
IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED.

968
00:27:41,955 --> 00:27:43,290
I THINK THIS IS THE OPENING

969
00:27:43,423 --> 00:27:45,158
SALVO OF TIM FITCH RUNNING FOR

970
00:27:45,292 --> 00:27:50,063
COUNTY EXECUTIVE IN A FEW YEARS.

971
00:27:50,197 --> 00:27:51,264
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS IN HIS

972
00:27:51,398 --> 00:27:52,632
DISTRICT, AND NOTHING -- MORE

973
00:27:52,766 --> 00:27:54,568
POWER TO HIM, BUT THIS IS KIND

974
00:27:54,701 --> 00:27:55,302
OF LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF AN

975
00:27:55,435 --> 00:27:57,204
OVERREACH ON HIS PART AND IF

976
00:27:57,337 --> 00:27:58,972
THIS IS THE SAME LYNN BECKWITH

977
00:27:59,105 --> 00:28:01,508
THAT I KNOW, THIS IS A MAN THAT

978
00:28:01,641 --> 00:28:04,044
NEVER RAISES HIS VOICE, BUT THAT

979
00:28:04,177 --> 00:28:06,413
LETTER MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT

980
00:28:06,546 --> 00:28:08,114
HE THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST SOME

981
00:28:08,248 --> 00:28:08,515
NONSENSE.

982
00:28:08,648 --> 00:28:11,451
NOW, THIS DEAL IS BAD, OKAY?

983
00:28:11,585 --> 00:28:12,419
I GUESS.

984
00:28:12,552 --> 00:28:14,621
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST --

985
00:28:14,754 --> 00:28:15,155
I DON'T KNOW.

986
00:28:15,288 --> 00:28:16,456
>> WELL, IT'S A TERRIBLE DEAL.

987
00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:18,191
>> WAIT, LET ME FINISH.

988
00:28:18,325 --> 00:28:18,625
>> OKAY.

989
00:28:18,758 --> 00:28:21,528
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS I

990
00:28:21,661 --> 00:28:23,730
DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO

991
00:28:23,863 --> 00:28:25,432
USURP THE AUTHORITY OF THIS

992
00:28:25,565 --> 00:28:26,833
LIBRARY BOARD BECAUSE THE NEXT

993
00:28:26,967 --> 00:28:28,935
THING IS, SOMEBODY WANTS TO

994
00:28:29,069 --> 00:28:30,303
USURP THE AUTHORITY OF A LIBRARY

995
00:28:30,437 --> 00:28:31,705
BOARD BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE

996
00:28:31,838 --> 00:28:32,806
THE BOOKS THEY HAVE.

997
00:28:32,939 --> 00:28:35,275
>> BUT THEY'RE ALL ON EXPIRED

998
00:28:35,408 --> 00:28:35,575
TERMS.

999
00:28:35,709 --> 00:28:35,942
I MEAN --

1000
00:28:36,076 --> 00:28:39,379
>> NO, NO, NO.

1001
00:28:39,512 --> 00:28:41,548
LET ME SAY, THEY CAN GO, ALL

1002
00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:41,848
RIGHT?

1003
00:28:41,982 --> 00:28:44,284
BUT I'M SAYING TIM FITCH SAYING

1004
00:28:44,417 --> 00:28:45,652
THEY SHOULD FIRED IMMEDIATELY,

1005
00:28:45,785 --> 00:28:46,553
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER --

1006
00:28:46,686 --> 00:28:48,855
>> HE DIDN'T SAY -- FIRST OF

1007
00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:49,356
ALL --

1008
00:28:49,489 --> 00:28:49,990
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ].

1009
00:28:50,123 --> 00:28:50,523
>> I WAS SURPRISED.

1010
00:28:50,657 --> 00:28:51,558
I THOUGHT HE SAID IMMEDIATELY,

1011
00:28:51,691 --> 00:28:53,360
BUT THEN ON AIR, HE SAID WE

1012
00:28:53,493 --> 00:28:54,761
OUGHT TO DO IT OVER TIME, BUT MY

1013
00:28:54,894 --> 00:28:57,130
POINT IS, IF I UNDERSTAND

1014
00:28:57,264 --> 00:28:58,999
CORRECTLY, AND I THOUGHT I SAW

1015
00:28:59,132 --> 00:29:02,202
IT ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, ON

1016
00:29:02,335 --> 00:29:03,803
THEIR WEBSITE, IT IS THE BOARD

1017
00:29:03,937 --> 00:29:05,839
MEMBERS OF THE LIBRARY ARE

1018
00:29:05,972 --> 00:29:06,873
APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY

1019
00:29:07,007 --> 00:29:07,274
COUNCIL --

1020
00:29:07,407 --> 00:29:07,974
>> COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

1021
00:29:08,108 --> 00:29:09,509
>> NO, ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF

1022
00:29:09,643 --> 00:29:10,076
THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

1023
00:29:10,210 --> 00:29:11,144
>> OH, OKAY, OKAY.

1024
00:29:11,278 --> 00:29:13,013
>> SO I DON'T -- OF COURSE, IF

1025
00:29:13,146 --> 00:29:15,181
HE'S ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL, HE

1026
00:29:15,315 --> 00:29:17,584
WAS TALKING TO THE -- GOO HERE'S

1027
00:29:17,717 --> 00:29:19,219
THE POINT YOU'RE ALL MISSING.

1028
00:29:19,352 --> 00:29:21,087
I'M ASHAMED OF YOU FOR NOT

1029
00:29:21,221 --> 00:29:21,655
SEEING THIS.

1030
00:29:21,788 --> 00:29:23,423
I AGREE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY

1031
00:29:23,556 --> 00:29:25,625
PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD GET AN

1032
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:26,293
APPRAISAL.

1033
00:29:26,426 --> 00:29:27,327
DIDN'T WE LEARN THAT WITH THE

1034
00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:28,895
HISTORY MUSEUM AND THE BOSLEY

1035
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:30,130
PROPERTY AND ALL THAT?

1036
00:29:30,263 --> 00:29:32,465
OKAY, BUT WHY WAS FRONTENAC SO

1037
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:34,134
OBSTINATE WHEN IT COMES TO

1038
00:29:34,267 --> 00:29:36,136
BUILDING A GENEALOGY CENTER?

1039
00:29:36,269 --> 00:29:38,004
IT WASN'T A STORAGE SHED, IT WAS

1040
00:29:38,138 --> 00:29:39,572
A GENEALOGY CENTER.

1041
00:29:39,706 --> 00:29:40,907
FRONTENAC RESIDENTS GO

1042
00:29:41,041 --> 00:29:41,708
EVERYWHERE ELSEWHERE THERE'S

1043
00:29:41,841 --> 00:29:42,976
LOTS OF TRAFFIC, BUT ONE TIME

1044
00:29:43,109 --> 00:29:44,177
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUNTY

1045
00:29:44,311 --> 00:29:48,014
FACILITY IN FRONTENAC, THEY BALK

1046
00:29:48,148 --> 00:29:49,449
AND IF IT WAS PLAZA FRONTENAC

1047
00:29:49,582 --> 00:29:52,218
THAT WAS GENERATING SALES TAX,

1048
00:29:52,352 --> 00:29:53,420
THEY WOULDN'T MIND THE TRAFFIC.

1049
00:29:53,553 --> 00:29:54,788
>> WHERE IS THE COUNTY LIBRARY,

1050
00:29:54,921 --> 00:29:55,155
CHARLIE?

1051
00:29:55,288 --> 00:29:58,291
>> IT MIGHT BE IN LADUE OR

1052
00:29:58,425 --> 00:30:00,760
FRONTENAC, BUT -- I THINK IT IS

1053
00:30:00,894 --> 00:30:01,661
IN FRONTENAC.

1054
00:30:01,795 --> 00:30:03,396
THIS ISN'T THE CITIZENS OF

1055
00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:03,797
FRONTENAC.

1056
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:05,231
>> NO, THE CITIZENS OF FRONTENAC

1057
00:30:05,365 --> 00:30:06,566
HAVE BEEN OBJECTING BECAUSE IT'S

1058
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:07,934
IN THEIR BACKYARD.

1059
00:30:08,068 --> 00:30:08,535
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

1060
00:30:08,668 --> 00:30:10,837
>> THE ISSUES I HAVE WITH IT,

1061
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:12,205
UNLESS THE POST REPORTING ISN'T

1062
00:30:12,339 --> 00:30:18,578
TRUE, THAT THEY, WITHOUT AN

1063
00:30:18,712 --> 00:30:20,980
APPRAISAL, SENT 6 MILLION COUNTY

1064
00:30:21,114 --> 00:30:22,849
DOLLARS FOR $2 MILLION WORTH OF

1065
00:30:22,982 --> 00:30:23,249
REAL ESTATE.

1066
00:30:23,383 --> 00:30:24,951
I MADE THE POINT, I'M NOT

1067
00:30:25,085 --> 00:30:27,020
FALLING ON THE SWORD FOR THE

1068
00:30:27,153 --> 00:30:29,089
POOR -- I THINK FRONTENAC IS NOT

1069
00:30:29,222 --> 00:30:30,623
EXACTLY A DEFENSELESS COMMUNITY

1070
00:30:30,757 --> 00:30:32,392
IN TERMS OF ITS ABILITY TO HAVE

1071
00:30:32,525 --> 00:30:34,994
RESOURCES, BUT THIS IS A BROADER

1072
00:30:35,128 --> 00:30:36,262
ISSUE AND THE COUNTY LIBRARY

1073
00:30:36,396 --> 00:30:37,097
SYSTEM, BY THE WAY, IS

1074
00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:38,365
CONSIDERED A REALLY GOOD SYSTEM.

1075
00:30:38,498 --> 00:30:39,466
>> IT IS, IT IS.

1076
00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:40,800
WE AGREE ON THAT.

1077
00:30:40,934 --> 00:30:42,235
>> I THINK IT'S JUST --

1078
00:30:42,369 --> 00:30:43,203
>> BILL?

1079
00:30:43,336 --> 00:30:45,472
>> IT'S JUST IS A GOOD IF WE GET

1080
00:30:45,605 --> 00:30:47,173
RID OF THESE PEOPLE THE WAY I

1081
00:30:47,307 --> 00:30:47,874
SEE IT.

1082
00:30:48,007 --> 00:30:49,209
>> IT COULD BE.

1083
00:30:49,342 --> 00:30:51,811
I WILL TO ASK YOU ABOUT SCOTT

1084
00:30:51,945 --> 00:30:55,115
FAUGHN WHO'S BEEN ON THIS

1085
00:30:55,248 --> 00:30:57,650
PROGRAM BEFORE BUT NOT MUCH

1086
00:30:57,784 --> 00:30:59,619
LATELY WHEN IT WAS DISCOVERED IN

1087
00:30:59,753 --> 00:31:00,387
THE GREITENS CONTROVERSY THAT HE

1088
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,291
WAS THE BAG MAN, TAKING IN

1089
00:31:05,425 --> 00:31:07,560
20,000, $25,000 IN CASH IN PAPER

1090
00:31:07,694 --> 00:31:12,532
BAG TO ALBERT WATKINS, THE

1091
00:31:12,665 --> 00:31:15,635
ATTORNEY FOR THE HUSBAND OF THE

1092
00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:17,170
WOMAN WHO WAS THE CENTER OF

1093
00:31:17,303 --> 00:31:18,938
GREITENS AFFAIR.

1094
00:31:19,072 --> 00:31:19,773
HE WAS ON MY PROGRAM.

1095
00:31:19,906 --> 00:31:21,040
IS HE A JOURNALIST?

1096
00:31:21,174 --> 00:31:21,941
I DON'T THINK SO.

1097
00:31:22,075 --> 00:31:23,343
THE GOVERNOR, MIKE PARSON, GAVE

1098
00:31:23,476 --> 00:31:25,678
HIM AN INTERVIEW RECENTLY AND

1099
00:31:25,812 --> 00:31:27,046
JASON HANCOCK FROM THE KANSAS

1100
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:27,914
CITY STAR WROTE A PIECE

1101
00:31:28,047 --> 00:31:28,715
QUESTIONING THAT.

1102
00:31:28,848 --> 00:31:31,484
THIS GUY IS NOT EXACTLY A

1103
00:31:31,618 --> 00:31:33,720
JOURNALIST AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS

1104
00:31:33,853 --> 00:31:34,988
BANNED AT THE STATE HOUSE.

1105
00:31:35,121 --> 00:31:36,222
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

1106
00:31:36,356 --> 00:31:38,191
>> I THINK HE'S PRETTY MUCH A

1107
00:31:38,324 --> 00:31:38,591
JOURNALIST.

1108
00:31:38,725 --> 00:31:40,560
HE'S ALWAYS HAD HIS EAR TO THE

1109
00:31:40,693 --> 00:31:42,128
GROUND ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

1110
00:31:42,262 --> 00:31:45,231
I MEAN, SCOTT IS PLUGGED IN TO

1111
00:31:45,365 --> 00:31:47,333
THE REPUBLICAN THINKING AND SO I

1112
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:49,469
THINK, OKAY, SURE, AND THAT'S

1113
00:31:49,602 --> 00:31:51,671
WHY GOVERNOR PARSON GAVE HIM THE

1114
00:31:51,805 --> 00:31:52,572
INTERVIEW, I'M SURE.

1115
00:31:52,705 --> 00:31:54,374
IN HIS LITTLE WORLD, HE'S

1116
00:31:54,507 --> 00:31:54,808
INFLUENTIAL.

1117
00:31:54,941 --> 00:31:57,544
>> I MEAN, THE GREAT IRONY IS HE

1118
00:31:57,677 --> 00:32:00,647
MAYBE GAVE HIM THE INTERVIEW

1119
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:01,981
BECAUSE SCOTT FAUGHN GOT HIM THE

1120
00:32:02,115 --> 00:32:04,250
JOB BY TOPPLING HIS PREDECESSOR.

1121
00:32:04,384 --> 00:32:06,719
>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

1122
00:32:06,853 --> 00:32:09,155
GOOD FOR BOTH OF THEM, RIGHT?

1123
00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:11,057
>> AS A JOURNALIST, THIS DOES

1124
00:32:11,191 --> 00:32:11,925
BOTHER ME.

1125
00:32:12,058 --> 00:32:15,328
YOU CAN'T GO AROUND BEING A

1126
00:32:15,462 --> 00:32:16,296
POLITICAL OPERATIVE DELIVERING

1127
00:32:16,429 --> 00:32:19,032
BAGS OF MONEY TO SOMEONE TO GET

1128
00:32:19,165 --> 00:32:20,700
RID OF A GOVERNOR SO YOUR

1129
00:32:20,834 --> 00:32:22,268
GOVERNOR OF CHOICE CAN COME IN,

1130
00:32:22,402 --> 00:32:24,771
AND THEN PUT YOUR JOURNALIST HAT

1131
00:32:24,904 --> 00:32:25,371
BACK ON.

1132
00:32:25,505 --> 00:32:25,805
THAT'S CRAZY.

1133
00:32:25,939 --> 00:32:28,441
>> FIRST OF ALL, HE HAS A STATE

1134
00:32:28,575 --> 00:32:31,644
SHOW THAT AIRS ON 30 -- WHEN THE

1135
00:32:31,778 --> 00:32:34,447
WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE

1136
00:32:34,581 --> 00:32:36,349
CONTROVERSY HAPPENED WITH THE

1137
00:32:36,483 --> 00:32:39,118
MONEY GOING TO WATKINS AND STUFF

1138
00:32:39,252 --> 00:32:40,820
AND SCOTT MADE THE POINT VERY

1139
00:32:40,954 --> 00:32:42,555
CLEARLY THAT HE DID NOT CONSIDER

1140
00:32:42,689 --> 00:32:43,490
HIMSELF A JOURNALIST.

1141
00:32:43,623 --> 00:32:45,391
HE THOUGHT OF HIMSELF AS A

1142
00:32:45,525 --> 00:32:45,792
BUSINESSMAN.

1143
00:32:45,925 --> 00:32:48,761
SO HE IS THE HOST OF A TV SHOW

1144
00:32:48,895 --> 00:32:51,397
THAT'S AIRED AROUND TOWN AND IF

1145
00:32:51,531 --> 00:32:53,466
PARSON WAS GONE -- THE THING I

1146
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,367
THOUGHT WAS MOST INTERESTING,

1147
00:32:54,501 --> 00:32:56,169
BECAUSE I HAPPENED TO SEE THE

1148
00:32:56,302 --> 00:32:56,970
INTERVIEW, PARSON DID SOMETHING

1149
00:32:57,103 --> 00:33:00,139
YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE, WHICH HE

1150
00:33:00,273 --> 00:33:01,941
ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY -- HE

1151
00:33:02,075 --> 00:33:03,443
BASICALLY KEPT TALKING ABOUT --

1152
00:33:03,576 --> 00:33:04,744
ON THE SHOW, HE KEPT SAYING

1153
00:33:04,878 --> 00:33:06,246
THERE WILL BE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT

1154
00:33:06,379 --> 00:33:07,747
AND BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT ON

1155
00:33:07,881 --> 00:33:09,549
SEPTEMBER 8th, HE'LL BE

1156
00:33:09,682 --> 00:33:10,683
ANNOUNCING FOR GOVERNOR, WHICH

1157
00:33:10,817 --> 00:33:11,618
THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION AND

1158
00:33:11,751 --> 00:33:13,520
NOBODY REALLY PICKED UP ON IT,

1159
00:33:13,653 --> 00:33:14,921
BUT HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS

1160
00:33:15,054 --> 00:33:16,523
GOING TO ANNOUNCE.

1161
00:33:16,656 --> 00:33:18,324
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN

1162
00:33:18,458 --> 00:33:20,894
ANYBODY DO THAT.

1163
00:33:21,027 --> 00:33:23,162
>> YOU MENTIONED POLITICAL

1164
00:33:23,296 --> 00:33:23,530
OPERATIVE.

1165
00:33:23,663 --> 00:33:24,964
THERE ARE NO TWO BIGGER

1166
00:33:25,098 --> 00:33:25,632
POLITICAL OPERATIVES IN THE

1167
00:33:25,765 --> 00:33:27,700
ST. LOUIS AREA THAN LAND COB AND

1168
00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:29,602
KELLY -- HANCOCK AND KELLY AND

1169
00:33:29,736 --> 00:33:30,937
THEY'RE ON RADIO ALL THE TIME

1170
00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:32,071
AND THEY HAVE FINANCIAL AND

1171
00:33:32,205 --> 00:33:32,872
POLITICAL INTERESTS IN THE

1172
00:33:33,006 --> 00:33:33,473
CLIENTS THEY SERVE.

1173
00:33:33,606 --> 00:33:34,674
>> AND I DON'T LIKE THAT.

1174
00:33:34,807 --> 00:33:36,643
>> BUT HOW CAN I TELL SCOTT

1175
00:33:36,776 --> 00:33:38,545
FAUGHN HE CAN'T DO IT, WHEN TO

1176
00:33:38,678 --> 00:33:40,747
ME THEY'RE NOT SAME BALLPARK.

1177
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,148
>> TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, I'LL

1178
00:33:42,282 --> 00:33:44,083
BACK UP HANCOCK AND KELLY ON

1179
00:33:44,217 --> 00:33:45,451
THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE MY GOOD

1180
00:33:45,585 --> 00:33:47,220
FRIENDS ON KMOX AND THEY'RE ALSO

1181
00:33:47,353 --> 00:33:48,888
ON FOX, BUT THEY DO DISCLOSE

1182
00:33:49,022 --> 00:33:51,257
THEIR CONFLICTS AND WHEN IT CAME

1183
00:33:51,391 --> 00:33:53,826
TO SOME ISSUES LIKE BETTER

1184
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,028
TOGETHER, THEY DID NOT TALK

1185
00:33:55,161 --> 00:33:56,095
ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN

1186
00:33:56,229 --> 00:33:57,030
WORKING FOR THAT AND THEY ARE

1187
00:33:57,163 --> 00:33:58,197
INSTRUCTED NOT TO INTERVIEW

1188
00:33:58,331 --> 00:34:00,166
PEOPLE FROM WHOM THEY RECEIVE

1189
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:00,466
MONEY.

1190
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,235
BUT THEY ARE POLITICAL

1191
00:34:02,368 --> 00:34:03,403
OPERATIVES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY

1192
00:34:03,536 --> 00:34:05,038
RIGHT AND THEY'RE ON THE RADIO.

1193
00:34:05,171 --> 00:34:07,173
>> BUT SCOTT FAUGHN HAS NEVER

1194
00:34:07,307 --> 00:34:08,641
DISCLOSED WHERE THAT MONEY CAME

1195
00:34:08,775 --> 00:34:10,209
FROM THAT WAS DESIGNED TO BRING

1196
00:34:10,343 --> 00:34:10,777
DOWN GREITENS.

1197
00:34:10,910 --> 00:34:12,512
AT LEAST UNTIL HE DISCLOSES

1198
00:34:12,645 --> 00:34:13,580
THAT --

1199
00:34:13,713 --> 00:34:15,915
>> WHAT KIND OF A JOURNALIST

1200
00:34:16,049 --> 00:34:17,717
DOESN'T DISCLOSE HE'S THE GUY

1201
00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:19,085
PRYING THE MONEY TO BRING DOWN

1202
00:34:19,218 --> 00:34:19,719
THE GOVERNOR?

1203
00:34:19,852 --> 00:34:24,724
>> ONE, DISHONEST, ONE MAYBE

1204
00:34:24,857 --> 00:34:26,059
BAD, BUT WITH ALL THE TRASH

1205
00:34:26,192 --> 00:34:28,161
GOING ON OUT THERE, HOW AM I

1206
00:34:28,294 --> 00:34:30,129
GOING TO PICK HIM OUT?

1207
00:34:30,263 --> 00:34:32,432
>> WE CAN ALL QUESTION ANYTHING

1208
00:34:32,565 --> 00:34:33,466
YOU WANT TO ABOUT HIM AND

1209
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,334
CERTAINLY IT'S FAIR CRITICISM,

1210
00:34:34,467 --> 00:34:35,802
BUT HE HAS A TV SHOW.

1211
00:34:35,935 --> 00:34:36,803
THE GOVERNOR WANTS --

1212
00:34:36,936 --> 00:34:37,670
>> IT'S A COMMERCIAL IS WHAT IT

1213
00:34:37,804 --> 00:34:39,973
IS.

1214
00:34:40,106 --> 00:34:41,975
>> I'M NOT -- LOOK, IT WAS AN

1215
00:34:42,108 --> 00:34:43,443
EASY INTERVIEW BECAUSE I

1216
00:34:43,576 --> 00:34:44,310
OBVIOUSLY LIKES PARSON, WHICH IS

1217
00:34:44,444 --> 00:34:45,211
WHY HE WENT ON THE SHOW.

1218
00:34:45,345 --> 00:34:47,013
>> AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT

1219
00:34:47,146 --> 00:34:49,616
SHOW, IT SAID THE FOLLOWING IS A

1220
00:34:49,749 --> 00:34:50,350
PAID COMMERCIAL.

1221
00:34:50,483 --> 00:34:51,584
HE'S NOT A JOURNALIST.

1222
00:34:51,718 --> 00:34:52,885
>> NO ONE IS SAYING HE IS.

1223
00:34:53,019 --> 00:34:53,686
I'M NOT SAYING HE IS.

1224
00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:58,157
>> I'M SAYING HE IS.

1225
00:34:58,291 --> 00:34:59,192
>> IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY.

1226
00:34:59,325 --> 00:35:02,061
>> I'M SAYING HE HAS A TV SHOW.

1227
00:35:02,195 --> 00:35:03,229
SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME ON, THEY

1228
00:35:03,363 --> 00:35:04,530
HAVE THE RIGHT TO AND IF

1229
00:35:04,664 --> 00:35:07,100
SOMEBODY WANTS TO CRITICIZE HIM,

1230
00:35:07,233 --> 00:35:08,101
THAT'S THE FLACK THEY'RE GOING

1231
00:35:08,234 --> 00:35:08,568
TO TANK.

1232
00:35:08,701 --> 00:35:10,269
>> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ASK

1233
00:35:10,403 --> 00:35:12,639
YOU TO BASICALLY PAY US AND THAT

1234
00:35:12,772 --> 00:35:14,240
IS TO JOIN US -- WELL, NOT

1235
00:35:14,374 --> 00:35:15,842
DIRECTLY PAYING IT, BUT YOU'RE

1236
00:35:15,975 --> 00:35:17,043
SUPPORTING THE NINE TEAMWORK

1237
00:35:17,176 --> 00:35:18,177
THROUGH OUR BIG ANNUAL

1238
00:35:18,311 --> 00:35:20,346
FUNDRAISER, WE CALL IT DONNYBASH

1239
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,482
AND HERE ARE THE DETAILS, HOW

1240
00:35:22,615 --> 00:35:23,483
YOU CAN JOIN US ON SEPTEMBER

1241
00:35:23,616 --> 00:35:25,051
26th AT THE SHELDON.

1242
00:35:27,987 --> 00:35:29,389
>> ALL RIGHT, DONNYBROOK IS

1243
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:30,423
WHERE YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU

1244
00:35:30,556 --> 00:35:33,259
WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE ISSUES OF

1245
00:35:33,393 --> 00:35:35,895
THE DAY DISCUSSED RATIONALLY.

1246
00:35:36,029 --> 00:35:38,598
WELL, MOST OF THEM ARE

1247
00:35:38,731 --> 00:35:39,932
DISCUSSING IT RATIONALLY AND YOU

1248
00:35:40,066 --> 00:35:41,334
CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES YOU THINK

1249
00:35:41,467 --> 00:35:42,568
ARE RATIONAL AND WHICH ONES YOU

1250
00:35:42,702 --> 00:35:43,970
THINK AREN'T, BUT ALL OF THEM

1251
00:35:44,103 --> 00:35:45,471
ARE SITTING THERE LISTENING TO

1252
00:35:45,605 --> 00:35:46,873
EACH OTHER, ALLOWING EACH OTHER

1253
00:35:47,006 --> 00:35:48,374
TO SPEAK AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES

1254
00:35:48,508 --> 00:35:49,275
DONNYBROOK SO IMPORTANT.

1255
00:35:49,409 --> 00:35:50,476
THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH

1256
00:35:50,610 --> 00:35:52,712
EACH OTHER AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO

1257
00:35:52,845 --> 00:35:54,914
AGREE WITH THEM, BUT EVERYONE

1258
00:35:55,048 --> 00:35:56,582
HAS A CHANCE TO STATE THEIR

1259
00:35:56,716 --> 00:35:56,916
OPINION.

1260
00:35:57,050 --> 00:35:58,217
AND ISN'T IT REFRESHING TO HAVE

1261
00:35:58,351 --> 00:35:59,419
A PLACE LIKE THAT?

1262
00:35:59,552 --> 00:36:01,521
AND THAT PLACE IS RIGHT HERE ON

1263
00:36:01,654 --> 00:36:02,321
THE NINE NETWORK.

1264
00:36:02,455 --> 00:36:03,623
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING

1265
00:36:03,756 --> 00:36:05,224
THAT HAPPEN THROUGH YOUR

1266
00:36:05,358 --> 00:36:05,625
MEMBERSHIP.

1267
00:36:05,758 --> 00:36:07,660
AT JUST $5 A MONTH, YOU'RE GOING

1268
00:36:07,794 --> 00:36:11,831
TO RECEIVE THIS CLASSIC

1269
00:36:11,964 --> 00:36:15,134
DONNYBRICK AT YOUR $5 SUSTAINING

1270
00:36:15,268 --> 00:36:15,868
MEMBERSHIP LEVEL.

1271
00:36:16,002 --> 00:36:17,904
YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN

1272
00:36:18,037 --> 00:36:22,275
DONNYBRICK AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE

1273
00:36:22,408 --> 00:36:25,445
WHAT YOU HEAR OR JUST CAN'T HOLE

1274
00:36:25,578 --> 00:36:28,147
IT IN ANYMORE, YOU THROW IT

1275
00:36:28,281 --> 00:36:30,616
DIRECTLY AT YOUR TELEVISION

1276
00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:30,950
SCREEN.

1277
00:36:31,084 --> 00:36:32,385
OR THE SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP,

1278
00:36:32,518 --> 00:36:33,186
YOU CAN JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH

1279
00:36:33,319 --> 00:36:34,487
HAPPENING OVER AT THE SHELDON.

1280
00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:36,389
IF YOU WANT TO JOIN US AT JUST

1281
00:36:36,522 --> 00:36:40,727
$12 A MONTH AS A SUSTAINING

1282
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:42,128
MEMBER, YOU CAN GET THE BIG PIJ.

1283
00:36:42,261 --> 00:36:43,896
IT'S THE DONNYBRICK AND A TICKET

1284
00:36:44,030 --> 00:36:47,400
FOR YOU AND A FRIEND TO GO TO

1285
00:36:47,533 --> 00:36:48,868
DONNYBASH AND BE THERE FOR THE

1286
00:36:49,001 --> 00:36:52,872
PRESHOW RE SHOSHOW RECEPTION, THE LIVE SHO 
W

1287
00:36:53,005 --> 00:36:54,874
AND AFTERWARDS, THE POST SHOW

1288
00:36:55,007 --> 00:36:55,241
RECEPTION.

1289
00:36:55,374 --> 00:36:56,142
YOU TRY TO SAY THAT FAST.

1290
00:36:56,275 --> 00:36:57,643
YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE

1291
00:36:57,777 --> 00:37:00,046
JOINING AN EXCLUSIVE GROUP OF

1292
00:37:00,179 --> 00:37:01,914
PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY WATCH

1293
00:37:02,048 --> 00:37:03,049
DONNYBROOK, BUT SUPPORT IT.

1294
00:37:03,182 --> 00:37:04,784
ONES YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW --

1295
00:37:04,917 --> 00:37:06,185
WON'T YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW?

1296
00:37:06,319 --> 00:37:08,020
GIVE US A CALL.

1297
00:37:08,154 --> 00:37:08,621
>> YEAH.

1298
00:37:08,755 --> 00:37:09,789
ALL RIGHT, THANKS A LOT.

1299
00:37:09,922 --> 00:37:11,324
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU JOINING

1300
00:37:11,457 --> 00:37:11,724
US.

1301
00:37:11,858 --> 00:37:13,493
WE'RE JUST WONDERING WHEN SARAH

1302
00:37:13,626 --> 00:37:15,094
IS GOING TO THROW THIS

1303
00:37:15,228 --> 00:37:16,162
DONNYBRICK AT THE CAMERA.

1304
00:37:16,295 --> 00:37:18,464
COULD BE BEFORE THE END OF THE

1305
00:37:18,598 --> 00:37:18,765
SHOW.

1306
00:37:18,898 --> 00:37:20,466
THE DONNYBRICK WILL BE YOURSELF

1307
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,069
SO YOU CAN RELIEVE THOSE

1308
00:37:23,202 --> 00:37:24,771
TENSIONS AND RELEASE THOSE

1309
00:37:24,904 --> 00:37:26,339
ENDORPHINS AND ALL THAT AS YOU

1310
00:37:26,472 --> 00:37:27,774
WATCH OUR PROGRAM AND YOU'LL

1311
00:37:27,907 --> 00:37:29,842
HELP CHANNEL 9 SUPPORT THESE

1312
00:37:29,976 --> 00:37:31,577
GREAT PROGRAMS FROM PBS AND

1313
00:37:31,711 --> 00:37:31,911
BEYOND.

1314
00:37:32,044 --> 00:37:34,714
THINK OF ALL THE GREAT PROGRAMS

1315
00:37:34,847 --> 00:37:36,449
THAT YOU ENJOY HERE, INCLUDING

1316
00:37:36,582 --> 00:37:38,384
OF COURSE THE NEWS HOUR WHICH

1317
00:37:38,518 --> 00:37:39,752
PRECEDES US EVERY WEEK NIGHT AND

1318
00:37:39,886 --> 00:37:41,587
JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW

1319
00:37:41,721 --> 00:37:42,688
JOURNALISM IS EXCELLENT.

1320
00:37:42,822 --> 00:37:45,024
WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF

1321
00:37:45,158 --> 00:37:45,424
JOURNALISM.

1322
00:37:45,558 --> 00:37:48,528
NOBODY IT DOES BETTER THAN JUDY

1323
00:37:48,661 --> 00:37:50,263
WOODRUFF AND HER TEAM AT THE

1324
00:37:50,396 --> 00:37:50,963
NEWS HOUR.

1325
00:37:51,097 --> 00:37:52,632
PLEASE JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH,

1326
00:37:52,765 --> 00:37:53,166
OUR FUNDRAISER.

1327
00:37:53,299 --> 00:37:54,534
WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR

1328
00:37:54,667 --> 00:37:55,968
BEING SO GENEROUS.

1329
00:37:56,102 --> 00:37:56,536
>> ABSOLUTELY.

1330
00:37:56,669 --> 00:37:59,438
GOOD FOOD, GOOD FUN.

1331
00:37:59,572 --> 00:38:01,774
I THINK SOME KNOWLEDGEABLE TALK.

1332
00:38:01,908 --> 00:38:02,608
I'M NOT SURE.

1333
00:38:02,742 --> 00:38:04,377
>> THAT'S QUESTIONABLE.

1334
00:38:04,510 --> 00:38:06,345
>> YOU'VE BEEN IN THE AUDIENCE

1335
00:38:06,479 --> 00:38:06,679
BEFORE.

1336
00:38:06,813 --> 00:38:07,380
>> WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS AT

1337
00:38:07,513 --> 00:38:07,814
THE END.

1338
00:38:07,947 --> 00:38:09,549
>> THE ONE THING WE KNOW FOR

1339
00:38:09,682 --> 00:38:11,250
SURE IS THAT THE VENUE IS GREAT.

1340
00:38:11,384 --> 00:38:13,486
THE ACOUSTICS, THE SHELDON IS

1341
00:38:13,619 --> 00:38:14,854
ONE OF THE GREAT -- IT'S ALWAYS

1342
00:38:14,987 --> 00:38:15,454
A THRILL.

1343
00:38:15,588 --> 00:38:16,889
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT A LONG TIME,

1344
00:38:17,023 --> 00:38:21,994
BUT JUST TO BE PART OF THAT

1345
00:38:22,128 --> 00:38:22,862
HISTORY.

1346
00:38:22,995 --> 00:38:24,831
IT'S A LOT BETTER FOLKS, MORE

1347
00:38:24,964 --> 00:38:26,065
IMPORTANT PEOPLE PERFORM ON THAT

1348
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,435
STAGE, BUT SERIOUSLY, IT'S

1349
00:38:29,569 --> 00:38:33,105
VERY -- YOU KNOW, IT SEATS 7-,

1350
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,874
800 PEOPLE, BUT IT'S VERY

1351
00:38:35,007 --> 00:38:35,508
INTIMATE AT THE SAME TIME.

1352
00:38:35,641 --> 00:38:36,809
THERE'S OTHER GREAT THEATERS IN

1353
00:38:36,943 --> 00:38:40,746
ST. LOUIS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE

1354
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,881
REAL TREASURES.

1355
00:38:42,014 --> 00:38:44,317
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE ORIGINAL

1356
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:47,587
SITE OF THE ETHICAL SOCIETY OF

1357
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:49,622
ST. LOUIS BEFORE IT MOVED OUT TO

1358
00:38:49,755 --> 00:38:50,790
CLAYTON ROAD.

1359
00:38:50,923 --> 00:38:52,158
>> HOW IRONIC THAT IS.

1360
00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:54,260
>> THIS WILL BE THE ONE TIME OR

1361
00:38:54,393 --> 00:38:58,331
ONCE A YEAR THAT WE SHARE A

1362
00:38:58,464 --> 00:39:03,536
STAGE THAT ALBERT EINSTEIN WAS

1363
00:39:03,669 --> 00:39:03,803
ON.

1364
00:39:03,936 --> 00:39:07,807
>> KATHLEEN BATTLE, AND MORE.

1365
00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:10,743
AND THE DONNY GANG.

1366
00:39:10,877 --> 00:39:11,410
PLEASE JOIN US.

1367
00:39:11,544 --> 00:39:13,145
CALL THAT NUMBER ON THE SCREEN

1368
00:39:13,279 --> 00:39:13,913
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

1369
00:39:14,046 --> 00:39:18,317
JOINING US, SEPTEMBER 26th, NEXT

1370
00:39:18,451 --> 00:39:19,418
MONTH, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

1371
00:39:22,521 --> 00:39:24,023
I WANT TO ASK YOU, SARAH, ABOUT

1372
00:39:24,223 --> 00:39:25,791
THE COMIC SECOND AT THE

1373
00:39:25,925 --> 00:39:27,827
POST-DISPATCH.

1374
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,629
USUALLY I COULD CLICK THROUGH

1375
00:39:29,762 --> 00:39:31,097
FACEBOOK AND MY NAME WOULD BE TO

1376
00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:31,397
THERE.

1377
00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:33,532
YOU DEVOTED AN ENTIRE HOUR --

1378
00:39:33,666 --> 00:39:36,469
>> NOT AN ENTIRE HOUR, BUT HALF

1379
00:39:36,602 --> 00:39:38,771
AN HOUR BR WE HAD BETH O'MALLEY

1380
00:39:38,905 --> 00:39:41,007
CAME ON TO DISCUSS THE CHANGES

1381
00:39:41,140 --> 00:39:43,442
MAKING TO THE COMMENT SECTION.

1382
00:39:43,576 --> 00:39:46,045
I FIND THIS TOPIC REALLY

1383
00:39:46,178 --> 00:39:47,580
INTERESTING BECAUSE I'M A

1384
00:39:47,713 --> 00:39:48,714
JOURNALIST, BUT EVERYONE IS

1385
00:39:48,848 --> 00:39:50,016
TRYING TO PROMOTE CIVIL

1386
00:39:50,149 --> 00:39:51,284
DISCOURSE AND IT'S LIKE HOW DO

1387
00:39:51,417 --> 00:39:53,085
YOU GET THERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE

1388
00:39:53,219 --> 00:39:54,987
TERRIBLE AND ESPECIALLY ONLINE.

1389
00:39:55,121 --> 00:39:56,422
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS MOVED AWAY

1390
00:39:56,555 --> 00:39:58,491
WITH A FACEBOOK-BASED SYSTEM,

1391
00:39:58,624 --> 00:40:00,326
WHERE YOU HAVE TO LOG IN WITH

1392
00:40:00,459 --> 00:40:01,427
YOUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNT, WHICH IS

1393
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,163
AN ATTEMPT TO GET PEOPLE TO DO

1394
00:40:04,297 --> 00:40:05,865
THINGS UNDER YOUR REAL NAME.

1395
00:40:05,998 --> 00:40:07,800
NOW YOU'RE DOING IT WITH THE

1396
00:40:07,934 --> 00:40:09,669
LOG-IN WITH THE PAPER, IT HEY

1397
00:40:09,802 --> 00:40:12,638
NOT BE YOUR REAL NAME, BUT YOU

1398
00:40:12,772 --> 00:40:15,007
CAN UP-VOTE COMMENTS THAT ARE

1399
00:40:15,141 --> 00:40:16,309
HELPFUL OR PROMOTING THE

1400
00:40:16,442 --> 00:40:17,677
DISCUSSION OR DOWN-VOTE SOMEONE

1401
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:19,612
WHO'S BEING A JERK OR NOT

1402
00:40:19,745 --> 00:40:20,980
CONTRIBUTING TO THE DISCUSSION.

1403
00:40:21,113 --> 00:40:21,981
THE IDEA IS EVERYONE

1404
00:40:22,114 --> 00:40:22,715
PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSION

1405
00:40:22,848 --> 00:40:24,283
WITH HELP TO MODERATE IT AND THE

1406
00:40:24,417 --> 00:40:25,518
GOOD COMMENTS RISE TO THE TOP

1407
00:40:25,651 --> 00:40:27,520
AND THE BAD COMMENTS ARE BURIED.

1408
00:40:27,653 --> 00:40:29,355
>> FIRST OF ALL, I WAS A

1409
00:40:29,488 --> 00:40:31,057
PUBLISHER OF A PUBLICATION, WE

1410
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:32,558
WOULD NOT HAVE A COMMENT

1411
00:40:32,692 --> 00:40:32,892
SECTION.

1412
00:40:33,025 --> 00:40:34,660
I MIGHT HAVE A PLACE ONLINE

1413
00:40:34,794 --> 00:40:37,229
WHERE YOU CAN HIT AN ICON AND GO

1414
00:40:37,363 --> 00:40:39,498
AWAY, BUT NOT AT THE END OF ANY

1415
00:40:39,632 --> 00:40:39,799
STORY.

1416
00:40:39,932 --> 00:40:41,100
I'M LOST FOR HOW SOMEONE NOT

1417
00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:43,202
HAVING TO USE THEIR NAME IS

1418
00:40:43,336 --> 00:40:44,804
GOING TO CLEAR UP THAT TRASH

1419
00:40:44,937 --> 00:40:46,238
THAT'S IN THE COMMENTS SECTION.

1420
00:40:46,372 --> 00:40:48,174
I THINK IT WILL LEAD TO EVEN

1421
00:40:48,307 --> 00:40:48,474
WORSE.

1422
00:40:48,607 --> 00:40:51,377
AND ALL THEY DO, ALL THE MINIONS

1423
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:53,079
WHO AGREE WITH SOME JUST CRAZY

1424
00:40:53,212 --> 00:40:54,180
STATEMENT ON THERE, THEY'LL JUST

1425
00:40:54,313 --> 00:40:55,781
BE GIVING IT THE THUMBS UP AND

1426
00:40:55,915 --> 00:40:58,117
IT WILL STILL STAY AT THE TOP.

1427
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:59,685
THE HATRED AND ALL THAT WILL BE

1428
00:40:59,819 --> 00:41:00,419
RIGHT AT THE TOP.

1429
00:41:00,553 --> 00:41:02,221
>> WHAT BETH WAS SAYING, THE

1430
00:41:02,355 --> 00:41:03,422
FACEBOOK SYSTEM IS DESIGNED THAT

1431
00:41:03,556 --> 00:41:04,890
PEOPLE HAVE TO USE THEIR REAL

1432
00:41:05,024 --> 00:41:06,125
NAMES OR FACEBOOK WILL BOOT YOU

1433
00:41:06,258 --> 00:41:08,327
IF THEY CATCH YOU USING A FAKE

1434
00:41:08,461 --> 00:41:08,627
NAME.

1435
00:41:08,761 --> 00:41:10,329
PEOPLE WERE FIGURING OUT WAYS TO

1436
00:41:10,463 --> 00:41:12,598
GAME THIS SYSTEM JUST LIKE EVERY

1437
00:41:12,732 --> 00:41:13,632
SYSTEM IN THE WORLD, PEOPLE GAME

1438
00:41:13,766 --> 00:41:15,401
IT AND THEY WERE ALREADY ON

1439
00:41:15,534 --> 00:41:17,536
THERE WITH FAKE NAMES.

1440
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:19,405
WHY FORCE PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH

1441
00:41:19,538 --> 00:41:21,707
FACEBOOK WHEN WE KNOW FACEBOOK

1442
00:41:21,841 --> 00:41:23,876
BUSINESS DESTROYING DEMOCRACY.

1443
00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:25,611
>> THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THIS.

1444
00:41:25,745 --> 00:41:26,746
ONE IS THE EFFORT TO HAVE THE

1445
00:41:26,879 --> 00:41:28,647
CIVIL DISCOURSE AND LEAD THE

1446
00:41:28,781 --> 00:41:30,049
COMMUNITY AND THE OTHER IS THAT

1447
00:41:30,182 --> 00:41:31,751
PEOPLE READ THIS BECAUSE IT IS A

1448
00:41:31,884 --> 00:41:32,718
TRAIN WRECK.

1449
00:41:32,852 --> 00:41:35,287
I MEAN, PEOPLE READ THE COMMENTS

1450
00:41:35,421 --> 00:41:37,857
SECTION BECAUSE IT IS SO NASTY.

1451
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:45,297
AND SO I MEAN, IF YOU WANT -- DO

1452
00:41:45,431 --> 00:41:46,899
YOU REALLY WANT CIVIL DISCOURSE?

1453
00:41:47,033 --> 00:41:48,200
>> CERTAINLY AT MY FORMER

1454
00:41:48,334 --> 00:41:49,568
EMPLOYER, THE RIVERFRONT TIMES,

1455
00:41:49,702 --> 00:41:53,205
THE COMMENTS ARE JUST

1456
00:41:53,339 --> 00:41:56,909
NOTORIOUSLY TON TOXIC AND PEOPLE

1457
00:41:57,043 --> 00:41:59,545
WANT TO TUNE IN TO THAT.

1458
00:41:59,678 --> 00:42:00,946
>> YOU'RE MY FORMER BOSS, BUT

1459
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,782
YOU ALSO FOUNDED THE PAPER SO I

1460
00:42:02,915 --> 00:42:04,183
MEAN, I'M SORT OF BECOMING MORE

1461
00:42:04,316 --> 00:42:05,818
IN ALVIN'S CAMP ON THIS.

1462
00:42:05,951 --> 00:42:08,487
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, SO MUCH --

1463
00:42:08,621 --> 00:42:10,189
IF THE COMMENTS -- YOU REALLY

1464
00:42:10,322 --> 00:42:12,825
HAVE TO HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO

1465
00:42:12,958 --> 00:42:15,027
MODERATE MORE THAN MOST OF US AS

1466
00:42:15,161 --> 00:42:16,195
JOURNALISTS WANT TO BECAUSE WHAT

1467
00:42:16,328 --> 00:42:17,963
HAPPENS WITH THESE COMMENTS, AND

1468
00:42:18,097 --> 00:42:21,600
I WRITE A COLUMN IN THE RFT, I

1469
00:42:21,734 --> 00:42:22,935
STOPPED LOOKING AT THEM.

1470
00:42:23,069 --> 00:42:24,637
I'M JUST NOT GOING TO LOOK AT

1471
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:26,272
THE COMMENTS BECAUSE A LOT OF

1472
00:42:26,405 --> 00:42:29,408
THEM, BESIDES JUST BEING SLANDER

1473
00:42:29,542 --> 00:42:30,409
PER SE AT THE TIME, THE

1474
00:42:30,543 --> 00:42:31,710
COMMENTERS HAVING FEUDS AND

1475
00:42:31,844 --> 00:42:33,145
GOING AFTER ONE ANOTHER AND

1476
00:42:33,279 --> 00:42:34,880
IT'S -- WHICH IS THE TRAIN WRECK

1477
00:42:35,014 --> 00:42:38,684
BILL IS TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S

1478
00:42:38,818 --> 00:42:41,720
REALLY -- I CAN -- I SURELY

1479
00:42:41,854 --> 00:42:42,521
WOULDN'T CRITICIZE ANYBODY THAT

1480
00:42:42,655 --> 00:42:43,756
SHUTS OFF COMMENTS.

1481
00:42:43,889 --> 00:42:45,858
>> IT IS DIFFICULT TO MODERATE.

1482
00:42:45,991 --> 00:42:48,194
>> I WOULD NOT SHUT OFF -- IF

1483
00:42:48,327 --> 00:42:49,562
YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM, HAVE

1484
00:42:49,695 --> 00:42:50,596
THEM, BUT I WOULDN'T CRITICIZE

1485
00:42:50,729 --> 00:42:51,730
ANYBODY THAT SHUT THEM OFF.

1486
00:42:51,864 --> 00:42:53,466
>> I THINK HONESTLY, YOU HAVE TO

1487
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:54,834
BE AN IDIOT TO BE AGAINST CIVIL

1488
00:42:54,967 --> 00:42:57,470
DISCOURSE.

1489
00:42:57,603 --> 00:42:59,004
>> THIS ISN'T CIVIL.

1490
00:42:59,138 --> 00:43:00,806
>> I WOULD SAY -- YOU KNOW --

1491
00:43:00,940 --> 00:43:02,942
>> YOU ASK THE QUESTION --

1492
00:43:03,075 --> 00:43:04,310
>> BOB COSTAS TALKED ABOUT THIS

1493
00:43:04,443 --> 00:43:04,944
A LOT.

1494
00:43:05,077 --> 00:43:06,979
HE'LL SAY, OKAY, DAVID BROOKS

1495
00:43:07,113 --> 00:43:07,880
SPENDS THREE DAYS WRITING A

1496
00:43:08,013 --> 00:43:10,015
COLUMN AND THEN IT'S IN THE "NEW

1497
00:43:10,149 --> 00:43:11,584
YORK TIMES" AND THEN YOU CAN

1498
00:43:11,717 --> 00:43:13,419
FIND SOME GUY WHO ON THE SEAT OF

1499
00:43:13,552 --> 00:43:15,154
HIS PANTS WRITES SOMETHING CRAZY

1500
00:43:15,287 --> 00:43:18,557
RIGHT AFTER, NOT WELL REASONED

1501
00:43:18,691 --> 00:43:19,959
OR THOUGHT OUT AT ALL.

1502
00:43:20,092 --> 00:43:21,694
THAT'S THE POINT OF A NEWSPAPER?

1503
00:43:21,827 --> 00:43:26,999
ARE YOU HERE TO GET SOME OF THE

1504
00:43:27,133 --> 00:43:28,434
FLY-BY-THE-SEAT OF THE PANTS

1505
00:43:28,567 --> 00:43:29,869
COMMENTS THAT IS NOT RESEARCHED

1506
00:43:30,002 --> 00:43:31,537
OR FORETHOUGHT OR SOMETHING

1507
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:32,505
THAT'S REASONED AND INTELLIGENT

1508
00:43:32,638 --> 00:43:33,839
AND PUT TOGETHER BY A

1509
00:43:33,973 --> 00:43:34,273
PROFESSIONAL.

1510
00:43:34,406 --> 00:43:38,277
IN THE MEDIA, DO WE CONSIDER

1511
00:43:38,410 --> 00:43:40,346
OURSELVES PROFESSIONAL OR ARE WE

1512
00:43:40,479 --> 00:43:42,214
JUST ONE MORE VOICE OUT THERE?

1513
00:43:42,348 --> 00:43:43,182
>> YOU HAVE TO ADD IN THE

1514
00:43:43,315 --> 00:43:44,583
ELEMENT OF ALL THE BOTS OUT

1515
00:43:44,717 --> 00:43:46,519
THERE OR THE FAKE WHATEVER.

1516
00:43:46,652 --> 00:43:47,486
I'M TO THE POINT WHERE I

1517
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:49,522
REALLY -- PEOPLE ARE SO BRAVE

1518
00:43:49,655 --> 00:43:55,127
WHEN THEY HAVE THE ANONYMITY OF

1519
00:43:55,261 --> 00:43:56,228
THEIR TWITTER ACCOUNT IN THE

1520
00:43:56,362 --> 00:43:56,595
COMMENTS.

1521
00:43:56,729 --> 00:43:59,231
I YAD TO THINK, YEARS AGO, THINK

1522
00:43:59,365 --> 00:44:00,599
ANYTHING GOES, WE WANT TO

1523
00:44:00,733 --> 00:44:01,467
ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSATION, AND

1524
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,936
AS I SAY, I'M SORT OF IN THE

1525
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:05,171
MIDDLE IN THAT I WOULDN'T

1526
00:44:05,304 --> 00:44:06,739
CRITICIZE ANYONE FOR HAVING IT,

1527
00:44:06,872 --> 00:44:08,040
BUT I DEFINITELY LEAN MORE

1528
00:44:08,174 --> 00:44:09,408
TOWARDS SAYING THE HECK WITH ALL

1529
00:44:09,542 --> 00:44:09,708
OF IT.

1530
00:44:09,842 --> 00:44:10,910
>> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT,

1531
00:44:11,043 --> 00:44:12,912
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

1532
00:44:13,045 --> 00:44:14,713
THE COMMENTS SECTION AND THE

1533
00:44:14,847 --> 00:44:16,081
CALLERS TO YOUR TURN?

1534
00:44:16,215 --> 00:44:17,783
>> WELL, THERE IS -- BECAUSE WE

1535
00:44:17,917 --> 00:44:18,717
GOT SOME RULES.

1536
00:44:18,851 --> 00:44:20,586
THERE'S SOME MODERATION AND

1537
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,854
CHANNEL 9 ISN'T GOING TO ALLOW

1538
00:44:21,987 --> 00:44:23,589
PEOPLE -- LET ME TELL YOU

1539
00:44:23,722 --> 00:44:23,956
SOMETHING.

1540
00:44:24,089 --> 00:44:25,024
I REMEMBER BEING ON CABLE ACCESS

1541
00:44:25,157 --> 00:44:27,293
ONCE WHEN IT WAS FIRST A THING

1542
00:44:27,426 --> 00:44:29,628
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN TWO

1543
00:44:29,762 --> 00:44:32,631
HOURS, THERE WAS LIKE ONE CALL

1544
00:44:32,765 --> 00:44:35,568
THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE HUMAN

1545
00:44:35,701 --> 00:44:35,901
ANATOMY.

1546
00:44:36,035 --> 00:44:36,669
I MEAN --

1547
00:44:36,802 --> 00:44:41,507
>> IT'S KIND OF AN ISLAND OF

1548
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,608
DECENCY OUT THERE.

1549
00:44:42,741 --> 00:44:45,311
WHEN YOU HAVE A CALL-IN SHOW ON

1550
00:44:45,444 --> 00:44:46,879
CHANNEL 9, IT'S DIFFERENT.

1551
00:44:47,012 --> 00:44:48,147
>> WE GET GREAT CALLS.

1552
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,548
>> LET'S MOVE ON.

1553
00:44:49,682 --> 00:44:51,850
BILL, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK

1554
00:44:51,984 --> 00:44:53,219
THAT PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT T-SHIRTS

1555
00:44:53,352 --> 00:44:55,354
WITH THE RAMS LOGO ON IT BETWEEN

1556
00:44:55,487 --> 00:44:56,589
DECEMBER OF 2010 AND MAYBE

1557
00:44:56,722 --> 00:44:59,058
SOMETIME IN 2016, CAN GET A 25%

1558
00:44:59,191 --> 00:45:00,259
REFUND THIS THEY KEPT THEIR

1559
00:45:00,392 --> 00:45:02,895
RECEIPTS OR IF THEY'RE IN THE

1560
00:45:03,028 --> 00:45:03,295
RAMS SYSTEM.

1561
00:45:03,429 --> 00:45:04,697
IF YOU BOUGHT IT AT THE STADIUM

1562
00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:06,599
AND THE RAMS HAVE YOU ON FILE,

1563
00:45:06,732 --> 00:45:08,267
THEY'RE GOING TO SEND YOU SOME

1564
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,935
MONEY AND IF YOU BOUGHT TICKSES

1565
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:11,971
AND YOU'RE IN -- TICKS AND

1566
00:45:12,104 --> 00:45:13,305
YOU'RE IN THEIR SYSTEM OR GOT

1567
00:45:13,439 --> 00:45:16,375
THE RECEIPT, I THINK YOU GET 25%

1568
00:45:16,508 --> 00:45:16,675
BACK.

1569
00:45:16,809 --> 00:45:17,476
I CAN UNDERSTAND SEASON TICKSES

1570
00:45:17,610 --> 00:45:21,080
AND PSLs, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, IF

1571
00:45:21,213 --> 00:45:23,916
YOU BOUGHT A RAMS T-SHIRT OR A

1572
00:45:24,049 --> 00:45:26,819
HAT, DOES STAN KROENKE AT POINT

1573
00:45:26,952 --> 00:45:28,053
OWE YOU ANYTHING?

1574
00:45:28,187 --> 00:45:29,154
>> NO, HE DOESN'T.

1575
00:45:29,288 --> 00:45:30,422
HE'S A GREAT ENTREPRENEUR, I'LL

1576
00:45:30,556 --> 00:45:33,092
START -- NO, I HATE TO BE A STAN

1577
00:45:33,225 --> 00:45:35,261
KROENKE'S SIDE, BUT I THINK IF

1578
00:45:35,394 --> 00:45:40,966
PEOPLE WANT TO BUY SOUVENIRS OF

1579
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,801
SOME TEAM, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF

1580
00:45:42,935 --> 00:45:46,372
THE TEAM LOSES OR ANYTHING, I

1581
00:45:46,505 --> 00:45:47,172
DON'T THINK PEOPLE DESERVE THE

1582
00:45:47,306 --> 00:45:47,706
MONEY BACK.

1583
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,542
AS FAR AS THE PSL OWNERS, YOU

1584
00:45:50,676 --> 00:45:52,278
CAN READ THE LEASE AS WELL AS

1585
00:45:52,411 --> 00:45:52,945
ANYONE ELSE.

1586
00:45:53,078 --> 00:45:54,179
THIS TEAM CAN LEAVE AFTER TEN

1587
00:45:54,313 --> 00:45:56,448
YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS.

1588
00:45:56,582 --> 00:46:00,619
I'M NOT EVEN SURE ABOUT THE PSL

1589
00:46:00,753 --> 00:46:00,953
OWNERS.

1590
00:46:01,086 --> 00:46:02,254
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I'D LIKE TO

1591
00:46:02,388 --> 00:46:03,756
TAKE A STICK AND POKE IT AT

1592
00:46:03,889 --> 00:46:05,324
MR. KROENKE, BUT I DON'T THINK

1593
00:46:05,457 --> 00:46:05,991
THIS DESERVES ANYTHING.

1594
00:46:06,125 --> 00:46:07,793
>> EXCUSE ME, ELECTIONS MATTER

1595
00:46:07,926 --> 00:46:10,796
AND VERDICTS AND SETTLEMENT

1596
00:46:10,929 --> 00:46:11,130
MATTER.

1597
00:46:11,263 --> 00:46:13,132
THIS ONE WAS MADE IN THE SYSTEM.

1598
00:46:13,265 --> 00:46:15,167
I DON'T -- I KIND OF DON'T THINK

1599
00:46:15,301 --> 00:46:16,168
STAN KROENKE IS GOING TO LOSE A

1600
00:46:16,302 --> 00:46:18,570
LOT OF SLEEP OVER IT, BUT I

1601
00:46:18,704 --> 00:46:21,974
THINK THAT IF WE -- ST. LOUIS

1602
00:46:22,107 --> 00:46:23,876
DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO SHOW FOR

1603
00:46:24,009 --> 00:46:24,143
IT.

1604
00:46:24,276 --> 00:46:26,078
THEY GOT A SETTLEMENT, GOT A

1605
00:46:26,211 --> 00:46:26,512
VERDICT --

1606
00:46:26,645 --> 00:46:32,217
>> COME ON, RAY, T-SHIRTS

1607
00:46:32,351 --> 00:46:33,352
AGAINST STAN KROENKE?

1608
00:46:33,485 --> 00:46:35,554
>> THE BIG WINNERS IN ANY CLASS

1609
00:46:35,688 --> 00:46:37,089
ACTION FOR THE LAWYERS, WE KNOW

1610
00:46:37,222 --> 00:46:37,389
THAT.

1611
00:46:37,523 --> 00:46:38,357
>> $7 MILLION.

1612
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:40,459
>> BUT HAVING SAID THAT --

1613
00:46:40,592 --> 00:46:42,061
>> YOU MEAN ANYBODY WHO BOUGHT A

1614
00:46:42,194 --> 00:46:43,529
T-SHIRT HAS A CLAIM?

1615
00:46:43,662 --> 00:46:44,330
>> THEY DO.

1616
00:46:44,463 --> 00:46:46,298
THEY POINT IS ARE YOU FEELING

1617
00:46:46,432 --> 00:46:48,033
BAD -- MY POINT IS ARE YOU

1618
00:46:48,167 --> 00:46:50,035
FEELING BAD FOR KROENKE?

1619
00:46:50,169 --> 00:46:50,903
I DON'T CARE ABOUT A GUY GETTING

1620
00:46:51,036 --> 00:46:52,905
25 CENTS BACK FOR HIS T-SHIRT --

1621
00:46:53,038 --> 00:46:55,007
>> THAT'S A TYRANNY OF THE

1622
00:46:55,140 --> 00:46:55,474
JUSTICE SYSTEM.

1623
00:46:55,607 --> 00:46:58,544
>> NO, IT'S NOT.

1624
00:46:58,677 --> 00:47:01,080
>> YOU'RE THE GUY WHO TOOK THE

1625
00:47:01,213 --> 00:47:01,480
SETTLEMENT.

1626
00:47:01,613 --> 00:47:02,581
>> BANK OF AMERICA, I READ IT --

1627
00:47:02,715 --> 00:47:04,450
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

1628
00:47:04,583 --> 00:47:08,520
AND THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS

1629
00:47:08,654 --> 00:47:12,658
THEY GOT THIS -- STAN KROENKE

1630
00:47:12,791 --> 00:47:13,892
WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE LAST

1631
00:47:14,026 --> 00:47:14,226
LAUGH.

1632
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,828
THEY GOT THIS LUMP OF SETTLEMENT

1633
00:47:15,961 --> 00:47:17,396
MONEY AND IF ENOUGH PEOPLE,

1634
00:47:17,529 --> 00:47:18,697
WHICH IS THE CASE OF ONE OF THE

1635
00:47:18,831 --> 00:47:20,232
ONES I DID, DON'T CLAIM THE

1636
00:47:20,366 --> 00:47:22,267
MONEY, WHATEVER IS LEFT, I GOT

1637
00:47:22,401 --> 00:47:22,835
TWO CHECKS.

1638
00:47:22,968 --> 00:47:23,836
>> DID YOU REALLY?

1639
00:47:23,969 --> 00:47:25,537
>> YES, I DID.

1640
00:47:25,671 --> 00:47:27,239
SO YOU MIGHT THINK OF ALL THE

1641
00:47:27,373 --> 00:47:29,007
PEOPLE THAT COULD CLAIM SOME OF

1642
00:47:29,141 --> 00:47:30,843
THIS MONEY, ONLY ABOUT A HALF OF

1643
00:47:30,976 --> 00:47:33,612
THEM ARE GOING TO EVEN PROBABLY

1644
00:47:33,746 --> 00:47:33,946
BOTHER.

1645
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:37,583
>> WHO KEEPS A RECEIPT FROM A

1646
00:47:37,716 --> 00:47:38,250
T-SHIRT?

1647
00:47:38,384 --> 00:47:39,118
>> THIS IS AMAZING.

1648
00:47:39,251 --> 00:47:42,187
I HAD A PSL --

1649
00:47:42,321 --> 00:47:45,057
>> THE PSL OWNERS ARE IN THE

1650
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:47,025
SYSTEM, IN THE COMPUTER.

1651
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:48,193
>> THEY ACTUALLY CALL THEM.

1652
00:47:48,327 --> 00:47:50,262
>> IF THEY BOUGHT A T-SHIRT OR

1653
00:47:50,396 --> 00:47:52,097
SWEATSHIRT OR HOODIE FROM

1654
00:47:52,231 --> 00:47:53,799
MACY'S, YOU BETTER HAVE THE

1655
00:47:53,932 --> 00:47:54,133
RECEIPT.

1656
00:47:54,266 --> 00:47:55,100
OTHERWISE YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK.

1657
00:47:55,234 --> 00:47:57,069
>> MAYBE A PHOTO OF YOU IN THE

1658
00:47:57,202 --> 00:47:57,436
T-SHIRT.

1659
00:47:57,569 --> 00:47:58,270
>> THAT MIGHT HELP.

1660
00:47:58,404 --> 00:48:01,006
>> I HAVE TO ADMIT.

1661
00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:02,875
I THOUGHT THAT WAS BIZARRE, BUT

1662
00:48:03,008 --> 00:48:04,309
I'M SAYING THE SETTLEMENT WAS

1663
00:48:04,443 --> 00:48:05,611
WHAT THE SETTLEMENT WAS.

1664
00:48:05,744 --> 00:48:07,913
WHO DO YOU FEEL BAD FOR?

1665
00:48:08,046 --> 00:48:08,313
KROENKE?

1666
00:48:08,447 --> 00:48:09,548
>> THAT'S THE POINT.

1667
00:48:09,681 --> 00:48:11,450
>> QUITE FRANKLY, IT NEVER WENT

1668
00:48:11,583 --> 00:48:12,684
TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY SETTLED

1669
00:48:12,818 --> 00:48:13,952
AND HERE'S THIS MONEY THAT THIS

1670
00:48:14,086 --> 00:48:15,854
COMPANY OR MR. KROENKE HAS TO

1671
00:48:15,988 --> 00:48:17,656
COME UP WITH AND IF YOU WANT A

1672
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:21,193
PIECE OF THAT PIE, WHO'S MAD?

1673
00:48:21,326 --> 00:48:21,960
HE AIN'T MAD.

1674
00:48:22,094 --> 00:48:23,796
>> ALVIN, I BET YOU THOUGHT OF

1675
00:48:23,929 --> 00:48:25,631
THIS ONE AND THAT IS, WE HAVE A

1676
00:48:25,764 --> 00:48:26,999
MLS TEAM COMING OUR WAY.

1677
00:48:27,132 --> 00:48:28,133
WE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER IN THE

1678
00:48:28,267 --> 00:48:28,467
SHOW.

1679
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,868
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MASCOT

1680
00:48:30,002 --> 00:48:30,269
SHOULD BE?

1681
00:48:30,402 --> 00:48:32,204
>> OH, WOW.

1682
00:48:32,337 --> 00:48:33,705
OKAY, WHEN I FIRST HEARD

1683
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:35,007
BATTLEHAWKS, MY FIRST THOUGHT

1684
00:48:35,140 --> 00:48:36,508
WAS, WHAT, WHAT?

1685
00:48:36,642 --> 00:48:37,609
>> THAT'S THE XFL TEAM.

1686
00:48:37,743 --> 00:48:40,846
>> ALL RIGHT -- OH, I'M SORRY.

1687
00:48:40,979 --> 00:48:41,747
YOU'RE TALKING --

1688
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,181
>> MLS.

1689
00:48:42,314 --> 00:48:43,282
>> MLS.

1690
00:48:43,415 --> 00:48:45,117
SEE, I HAD XFL ON MY MIND.

1691
00:48:45,250 --> 00:48:46,718
THAT'S A CRAZY NAME.

1692
00:48:46,852 --> 00:48:48,854
>> YOU'RE JUST EXCITED ABOUT THE

1693
00:48:48,987 --> 00:48:49,254
SETTLEMENT.

1694
00:48:49,388 --> 00:48:49,621
>> RIGHT.

1695
00:48:49,755 --> 00:48:50,322
>> HE'S GOING TO FILL OUT HIS

1696
00:48:50,456 --> 00:48:53,292
FORM.

1697
00:48:53,425 --> 00:48:56,495
>> LIKE LEWIS AND CLARK KIND OF

1698
00:48:56,628 --> 00:48:56,795
THING?

1699
00:48:56,929 --> 00:48:57,629
THE EXPEDITION.

1700
00:48:57,763 --> 00:48:59,698
>> THE ST. LOUIS AND CLARK.

1701
00:48:59,832 --> 00:49:01,366
>> THE JOURNEY.

1702
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:04,303
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

1703
00:49:04,436 --> 00:49:05,637
MASCOT WOULD BE THAT WOULDN'T

1704
00:49:05,771 --> 00:49:06,672
OFFEND SOMEBODY, FIRST OF ALL,

1705
00:49:06,805 --> 00:49:07,039
SO --

1706
00:49:07,172 --> 00:49:10,242
>> IT CAN'T BE THE KINGS.

1707
00:49:10,375 --> 00:49:14,413
>> IT CAN'T BE THE KINGS AND --

1708
00:49:14,546 --> 00:49:14,780
YOU KNOW.

1709
00:49:14,913 --> 00:49:16,281
WE AS A -- I THINK YOU HAVE TO

1710
00:49:16,415 --> 00:49:17,416
WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE NAME OF

1711
00:49:17,549 --> 00:49:19,284
THE TEAM IS FIRST AND THEN YOU

1712
00:49:19,418 --> 00:49:22,554
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MASCOT IS.

1713
00:49:22,688 --> 00:49:25,257
>> COULD BE THE TOASTED RAVS.

1714
00:49:25,390 --> 00:49:26,525
>> ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS DUMB.

1715
00:49:26,658 --> 00:49:28,961
>> HOW ABOUT THE TAX CREDITS?

1716
00:49:29,094 --> 00:49:30,529
>> THE ST. LOUIS TAX CREDITS.

1717
00:49:30,662 --> 00:49:31,363
>> THE CREDIT.

1718
00:49:31,497 --> 00:49:32,431
>> LET'S SEE HOW --

1719
00:49:32,564 --> 00:49:34,566
>> SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY GOOD

1720
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:35,133
AT HERE.

1721
00:49:35,267 --> 00:49:38,036
>> THE ST. LOUIS ABATEMENT.

1722
00:49:38,170 --> 00:49:39,905
>> WELL, TRUTH BE TOLD, IF WE

1723
00:49:40,038 --> 00:49:41,039
HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE CARDINALS

1724
00:49:41,173 --> 00:49:42,674
BEFORE, NO TEAM HAD EVER BEEN

1725
00:49:42,808 --> 00:49:45,377
NAMED AFTER THEM AND SOMEONE

1726
00:49:45,511 --> 00:49:47,613
SUGGEST THAT THE NEW MLS TEAM OR

1727
00:49:47,746 --> 00:49:50,115
XFL TEAM BE NAME THE CARDINALS,

1728
00:49:50,249 --> 00:49:52,050
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD FLY?

1729
00:49:52,184 --> 00:49:52,918
>> THE XFL --

1730
00:49:53,051 --> 00:49:56,588
>> THAT ISN'T REALLY A THING.

1731
00:49:56,722 --> 00:49:57,189
>> IT IS.

1732
00:49:57,322 --> 00:49:59,291
>> WHAT THE GUYS NAME -- REALLY?

1733
00:49:59,424 --> 00:50:00,526
IT'S NOT EVEN --

1734
00:50:00,659 --> 00:50:01,727
>> HE HIRED A LEGITIMATE

1735
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:03,161
INDIVIDUAL IN OLIVER LUSK --

1736
00:50:03,295 --> 00:50:05,797
>> THE MLS, I THINK ST. LOUIS IS

1737
00:50:05,931 --> 00:50:08,000
A SOCCER CAPITAL AND I'M HAPPY

1738
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:09,067
FOR SOCCER FANS FOR REAL.

1739
00:50:09,201 --> 00:50:10,435
I THINK IT'S A THING.

1740
00:50:10,569 --> 00:50:11,670
THE XFL IT'S EVEN A THING.

1741
00:50:11,803 --> 00:50:12,604
>> IT IS A THING.

1742
00:50:12,738 --> 00:50:14,139
YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BECAUSE OF

1743
00:50:14,273 --> 00:50:16,174
HIM, BUT HE'S NOT RUNNING IT.

1744
00:50:16,308 --> 00:50:18,377
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO EMPLOY,

1745
00:50:18,510 --> 00:50:20,546
YOU KNOW, 3-, 400 INDIVIDUALS,

1746
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,014
GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO MAKE MONEY

1747
00:50:22,147 --> 00:50:22,881
AND PLAY FOOTBALL.

1748
00:50:23,015 --> 00:50:24,216
IT DOES HAVE A TV CONTRACT AND

1749
00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:25,684
IT'S GOING TO BE A TELEVISION.

1750
00:50:25,817 --> 00:50:26,852
SO I CAN'T HATE ON THOSE

1751
00:50:26,985 --> 00:50:27,853
PARTICIPATING IN THE LEAGUE.

1752
00:50:27,986 --> 00:50:30,789
BY THE WAY, OUR TEAM IS LIKE THE

1753
00:50:30,923 --> 00:50:32,925
FRONT OFFICE WAY MORE DIVERSE

1754
00:50:33,058 --> 00:50:36,061
AND THIS LEAGUE IS WAY MORE

1755
00:50:36,194 --> 00:50:37,029
DIVERSE THAN THE NATIONAL

1756
00:50:37,162 --> 00:50:37,930
FOOTBALL LEAGUE IS.

1757
00:50:38,063 --> 00:50:39,431
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MAYORS,

1758
00:50:39,565 --> 00:50:40,666
I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE --

1759
00:50:40,799 --> 00:50:43,635
ABOUT PLAYERS, I'M TALKING ABOUT

1760
00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:46,138
PEOPLE RUNNING THE ORGANIZATION.

1761
00:50:46,271 --> 00:50:50,175
I CAN'T DO IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S

1762
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:50,842
McMAHAN.

1763
00:50:50,976 --> 00:50:52,744
>> I CAN.

1764
00:50:52,878 --> 00:50:53,312
PEOPLE HAD --

1765
00:50:53,445 --> 00:50:58,050
>> SARAH FENSKE, LET'S MOVE ON

1766
00:50:58,183 --> 00:50:59,384
TO THE NEW YORK TIMES.

1767
00:50:59,518 --> 00:51:01,420
A WOMAN THIS WEEK WROTE ABOUT

1768
00:51:01,553 --> 00:51:03,822
THE MIGRATION OF BOSNIAN

1769
00:51:03,956 --> 00:51:04,923
REFUGEES FROM THE CITY OF

1770
00:51:05,057 --> 00:51:05,857
ST. LOUIS TO THE COUNTY, GOING

1771
00:51:05,991 --> 00:51:07,259
TO HIGH SCHOOLS LIKE MEHLVILLE

1772
00:51:07,392 --> 00:51:08,193
AND OAKVILLE.

1773
00:51:08,327 --> 00:51:09,561
THEY'RE APPARENTLY RIGHT NOW,

1774
00:51:09,695 --> 00:51:12,931
THE BOSNIANS ARE FIRMLY

1775
00:51:13,065 --> 00:51:14,533
ENSCONCED IN THE MIDDLE CLASS

1776
00:51:14,666 --> 00:51:19,404
AND THEY HAVE LEFT THE BEVO MILL

1777
00:51:19,538 --> 00:51:19,705
AREA.

1778
00:51:19,838 --> 00:51:22,007
YOU POINTED OUT THAT A LOT OF

1779
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:24,977
PEOPLE WERE VERY UPSET IN THE

1780
00:51:25,110 --> 00:51:26,278
NEW YORK TIMES.

1781
00:51:26,411 --> 00:51:27,379
>> JOEL MURPHY WROTE THIS STORY

1782
00:51:27,512 --> 00:51:29,314
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THERE'S JUST

1783
00:51:29,448 --> 00:51:31,583
A COUPLE DOZEN BOSNIANS LEFT IN

1784
00:51:31,717 --> 00:51:34,620
THE BEVO MILL NEIGHBORHOOD.

1785
00:51:34,753 --> 00:51:35,921
THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE UPSET

1786
00:51:36,054 --> 00:51:38,390
WITH THIS, BECAUSE, A, THEY WERE

1787
00:51:38,523 --> 00:51:39,591
MOSTLY LEAVING BECAUSE OF CRIME,

1788
00:51:39,725 --> 00:51:41,259
BUT B, I THINK IT KIND OF MISSED

1789
00:51:41,393 --> 00:51:42,260
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS.

1790
00:51:42,394 --> 00:51:43,862
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT STORY,

1791
00:51:43,996 --> 00:51:45,530
BUT IT DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE

1792
00:51:45,664 --> 00:51:46,765
FACT THAT THE NEXT WAVE OF

1793
00:51:46,898 --> 00:51:47,599
PEOPLE MOVING INTO THAT

1794
00:51:47,733 --> 00:51:49,701
NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ALREADY HERE.

1795
00:51:49,835 --> 00:51:52,070
THEY'RE MEXICANS-ON DUR RANCE,

1796
00:51:52,204 --> 00:51:53,138
CENTRAL AMERICANS THAT OPENED UP

1797
00:51:53,271 --> 00:51:54,473
RESTAURANTS THAT ARE FILLING

1798
00:51:54,606 --> 00:51:55,974
THESE PLACES THAT USED TO BE

1799
00:51:56,108 --> 00:51:57,376
OWNED BY BOSNIANS.

1800
00:51:57,509 --> 00:51:58,710
IT'S SORT OF THE CYCLE OF THE

1801
00:51:58,844 --> 00:51:59,011
CITY.

1802
00:51:59,144 --> 00:52:00,545
THEY MOVED TO THE SUBURBS.

1803
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:01,713
BOAST OF THEM STAYED IN THE

1804
00:52:01,847 --> 00:52:02,748
ST. LOUIS AREA AND THE NEIGHBOR

1805
00:52:02,881 --> 00:52:04,316
HAS A NEW POPULATION THAT'S

1806
00:52:04,449 --> 00:52:04,983
DOING GREAT THERE.

1807
00:52:05,117 --> 00:52:06,318
>> AND YOU CAN WRITE THE STORY

1808
00:52:06,451 --> 00:52:13,392
NOW ABOUT THE SIRIANS WHO ARE --

1809
00:52:13,525 --> 00:52:15,160
SIRIANS WHO ARE LARGELY MOVING

1810
00:52:15,293 --> 00:52:16,695
FROM THE CITY TO OTHER PLACES

1811
00:52:16,828 --> 00:52:18,530
AND A LOT OF THE REFUGEES HAVE

1812
00:52:18,664 --> 00:52:20,899
MOVED TO, I THINK IT'S DEARBORN,

1813
00:52:21,033 --> 00:52:22,200
MICHIGAN, BECAUSE OF THE BIG

1814
00:52:22,334 --> 00:52:23,802
ARABIC SPEAKING COMMUNITY THERE.

1815
00:52:23,935 --> 00:52:25,370
PEOPLE GET JOBS AND THEY MOVE

1816
00:52:25,504 --> 00:52:25,637
ON.

1817
00:52:25,771 --> 00:52:26,772
THAT'S ALL G I GUESS.

1818
00:52:26,905 --> 00:52:29,608
IT WOULD BE NICE, THOUGH, FOR US

1819
00:52:29,741 --> 00:52:35,113
TO HAVE A LITTLE DAMASCUS IN THE

1820
00:52:35,247 --> 00:52:37,616
SKE OR A LITTLE BOSNIA, A LITTLE

1821
00:52:37,749 --> 00:52:38,316
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS FUFRL

1822
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:41,453
RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS THAT

1823
00:52:41,586 --> 00:52:43,822
REFLECT THE ETHNICITY OF THE

1824
00:52:43,955 --> 00:52:45,624
COUNTRY LIKE THE HILL REFLECTS

1825
00:52:45,757 --> 00:52:45,957
ITALY.

1826
00:52:46,091 --> 00:52:47,426
>> SPEAKING OF THE COUNTRY, I

1827
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:49,327
THINK WHAT'S FASCINATING ABOUT

1828
00:52:49,461 --> 00:52:50,796
THIS, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE BLUE

1829
00:52:50,929 --> 00:52:53,665
PART OF A RED STATE, BUT I DON'T

1830
00:52:53,799 --> 00:52:54,466
KNOW ANYONE THAT DOESN'T THINK

1831
00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:56,768
THAT THE IMMIGRANTS ISN'T A GOOD

1832
00:52:56,902 --> 00:52:57,102
THING.

1833
00:52:57,235 --> 00:52:58,403
CROSS PARTY LINES, CROSS --

1834
00:52:58,537 --> 00:53:00,272
EVERYBODY FEELS THAT'S PART OF

1835
00:53:00,405 --> 00:53:01,273
OUR HERITAGE.

1836
00:53:01,406 --> 00:53:02,941
WHETHER YOU GO BACK TO THE HILL,

1837
00:53:03,075 --> 00:53:05,610
YOU KNOW, BEING AN ITALIAN AREA

1838
00:53:05,744 --> 00:53:07,846
OR OTHER ETHNICITIES, AND

1839
00:53:07,979 --> 00:53:10,882
CERTAINLY -- EVERYBODY WELCOMES

1840
00:53:11,016 --> 00:53:11,817
THEM AND --

1841
00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:14,019
>> I DON'T WANT TO AGREE WITH

1842
00:53:14,152 --> 00:53:16,154
YOU, RAY, BUT I THINK IT'S

1843
00:53:16,288 --> 00:53:18,724
UNWELCOMING IN MISSOURI.

1844
00:53:18,857 --> 00:53:20,726
I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY AGREES

1845
00:53:20,859 --> 00:53:21,526
ACROSS PARTY LINES.

1846
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:24,296
I THINK THERE'S A NOT OF

1847
00:53:24,429 --> 00:53:26,031
NATIVISM HERE AND ANTI --

1848
00:53:26,164 --> 00:53:27,299
>> I DON'T SEE IT IN ST. LOUIS

1849
00:53:27,432 --> 00:53:27,999
AT ALL.

1850
00:53:28,133 --> 00:53:28,800
MAYBE IT IS IN MISSOURI

1851
00:53:28,934 --> 00:53:29,701
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

1852
00:53:29,835 --> 00:53:30,469
>> I WISH IT WEREN'T.

1853
00:53:30,602 --> 00:53:32,304
>> DO YOU SEE IT IN ST. LOUIS?

1854
00:53:32,437 --> 00:53:34,206
>> I DO.

1855
00:53:34,339 --> 00:53:35,407
>> I THINK PEOPLE LIKE DONALD

1856
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:36,308
TRUMP PLAYS TO THAT.

1857
00:53:36,441 --> 00:53:37,642
>> HE DOES.

1858
00:53:37,776 --> 00:53:38,510
THAT'S MY POINT.

1859
00:53:38,643 --> 00:53:39,644
I DON'T FEEL IT IN ST. LOUIS

1860
00:53:39,778 --> 00:53:40,645
WHEN I --

1861
00:53:40,779 --> 00:53:45,450
>> WHEN IT CAME TO THE VISA

1862
00:53:45,584 --> 00:53:46,485
CONTROVERSY THIS PAST SPRING

1863
00:53:46,618 --> 00:53:48,687
WHERE LANDSCAPERS WOULDN'T GET

1864
00:53:48,820 --> 00:53:49,688
TEMPORARY WORKERS FROM MEXICO

1865
00:53:49,821 --> 00:53:50,722
BECAUSE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

1866
00:53:50,856 --> 00:53:51,590
WAS DRAGGING ITS HEELS AND THERE

1867
00:53:51,723 --> 00:53:54,326
ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE

1868
00:53:54,459 --> 00:53:55,627
AGAINST THE TEMPORARY WORKERS

1869
00:53:55,761 --> 00:53:56,695
COMING HERE FROM MEXICO TO

1870
00:53:56,828 --> 00:53:57,095
ST. LOUIS.

1871
00:53:57,229 --> 00:53:59,131
>> WHEN I FIRST BACK HERE IN

1872
00:53:59,264 --> 00:54:00,932
1995, I HAD A FRIEND WHO LIVE

1873
00:54:01,066 --> 00:54:04,102
JUST TO THE, I GUESS WEST OF

1874
00:54:04,236 --> 00:54:05,670
BEVO MILL RIGHT OFF OF

1875
00:54:05,804 --> 00:54:06,805
KINGSHIGHWAY AND THERE WAS -- AT

1876
00:54:06,938 --> 00:54:08,740
THAT TIME, I GUESS IT WAS THE

1877
00:54:08,874 --> 00:54:10,642
HEIGHT OF THE BOSNIAN POPULATION

1878
00:54:10,776 --> 00:54:13,011
THAT MOVED HERE, THERE WERE A

1879
00:54:13,145 --> 00:54:14,679
LOT OF VERY NEGATIVE THINGS

1880
00:54:14,813 --> 00:54:16,281
BEING SAID ABOUT THEM, AND I

1881
00:54:16,414 --> 00:54:17,382
THOUGHT IT WAS THIS COOL THING

1882
00:54:17,516 --> 00:54:19,084
THAT ONLY I HAD READ ABOUT IN

1883
00:54:19,217 --> 00:54:20,285
THE NEWSPAPERS AROUND THE

1884
00:54:20,418 --> 00:54:21,019
COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE

1885
00:54:21,153 --> 00:54:22,120
POST-DISPATCH, AND I MOVED BACK,

1886
00:54:22,254 --> 00:54:25,557
HAD A FRIEND WHO HAPPENED TO

1887
00:54:25,690 --> 00:54:27,058
LIVE THERE AND HE TOLD ME HE HAD

1888
00:54:27,192 --> 00:54:30,695
NO PROBLEM WITH THEM, BUT HE

1889
00:54:30,829 --> 00:54:32,631
SAID UP AND DOWN THIS STREET,

1890
00:54:32,764 --> 00:54:33,398
CAN'T STAND THEM.

1891
00:54:33,532 --> 00:54:35,867
>> I PLEAD GUILTY.

1892
00:54:36,001 --> 00:54:36,902
I ABSOLUTELY THOUGHT -- MAYBE

1893
00:54:37,035 --> 00:54:39,571
I'M JUST BEING AN IDIOT, BUT I

1894
00:54:39,704 --> 00:54:42,741
DIDN'T -- I CAN SEE MISSOURI,

1895
00:54:42,874 --> 00:54:44,176
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A HOT BUTTON

1896
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:45,944
ISSUE THAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO

1897
00:54:46,077 --> 00:54:47,679
DIVIDE THE COUNTRY WITH, AND

1898
00:54:47,813 --> 00:54:48,547
THAT'S WHY I WAS SURPRISED

1899
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,082
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD

1900
00:54:51,216 --> 00:54:51,416
THING.

1901
00:54:51,550 --> 00:54:53,919
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING,

1902
00:54:54,052 --> 00:54:56,087
THE WRITER FOR THE NEW YORK

1903
00:54:56,221 --> 00:54:59,691
TIMES CAME HERE AS A REFUGEE,

1904
00:54:59,825 --> 00:55:04,696
AND SHE WENT TO UNIVERSITY AND

1905
00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:07,098
IS NOW WORKING FOR THE NEW YORK

1906
00:55:07,232 --> 00:55:07,399
TIMES.

1907
00:55:07,532 --> 00:55:08,867
LET'S GO TO THE PAIL BAG.

1908
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,235
I USUAL THE LA DOOR SCHOOL

1909
00:55:10,368 --> 00:55:11,469
DISTRICT TO RECONSIDER IT'S

1910
00:55:11,603 --> 00:55:14,339
POSITION AND TO OFFER THE

1911
00:55:14,472 --> 00:55:15,974
NORMANDY STUDENT AND OPPORTUNITY

1912
00:55:16,107 --> 00:55:17,209
TO COMPLETE THEIR GRADUATION

1913
00:55:17,342 --> 00:55:18,543
FROM HIGH SCHOOL.

1914
00:55:18,677 --> 00:55:19,477
HE IS WHAT GOOD SCHOOL DISTRICTS

1915
00:55:19,611 --> 00:55:21,513
AND CARING COMMUNITIES DO.

1916
00:55:21,646 --> 00:55:24,916
THAT FROM JANE BAKER OF

1917
00:55:25,050 --> 00:55:25,550
ST. LOUIS.

1918
00:55:25,684 --> 00:55:27,552
PHIL WROTE REGARDING THE STORY

1919
00:55:27,686 --> 00:55:28,520
ABOUT THE GIRLS SOCCER FIELD

1920
00:55:28,653 --> 00:55:30,522
BEING INVADED BY THE BOYS

1921
00:55:30,655 --> 00:55:31,489
FOOTBALL TEAM.

1922
00:55:31,623 --> 00:55:33,091
ALL OF YOU MISSED A GREAT

1923
00:55:33,225 --> 00:55:34,226
OPPORTUNITY TO SEND A POWERFUL

1924
00:55:34,359 --> 00:55:34,526
MERGE.

1925
00:55:34,659 --> 00:55:36,361
THE STORY WAS ABOUT ADULTS

1926
00:55:36,494 --> 00:55:38,163
BEHAVING POORLY AND SENDING A

1927
00:55:38,296 --> 00:55:39,064
MESSAGE THAT THE BOYS SPACE WAS

1928
00:55:39,197 --> 00:55:40,398
MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE GIRLS

1929
00:55:40,532 --> 00:55:41,666
SPACE.

1930
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,334
THANKS, BILL.

1931
00:55:42,467 --> 00:55:44,636
YOU CAN ALWAYS WRITE US CARE OF

1932
00:55:44,769 --> 00:55:45,503
KETC, 3655 OLIVE STREET, ST.

1933
00:55:45,637 --> 00:55:46,071
LOUIS, MISSOURI 63108.

1934
00:55:46,204 --> 00:55:48,907
WE LOVE THOSE EMAILS,

1935
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,109
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1936
00:55:51,243 --> 00:55:52,177
TWEETS, #DONNYBROOKSTL.

1937
00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:54,512
DON'T FORGET YOU CAN LISTEN ON

1938
00:55:54,646 --> 00:55:56,214
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1939
00:55:56,348 --> 00:55:57,349
AND TUNE-IN.

1940
00:55:57,482 --> 00:55:59,184
THOSE ARE OUR PODCASTS AND WE

1941
00:55:59,317 --> 00:56:00,518
HOPE YOU JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH.

1942
00:56:00,652 --> 00:56:02,454
THAT'S AT THE SHELDON ON SENSE

1943
00:56:02,587 --> 00:56:03,488
THE 26th.

1944
00:56:03,622 --> 00:56:05,257
THANKS TO SARAH FENSKE FOR

1945
00:56:05,390 --> 00:56:06,424
SITTING IN FOR WENDY WIESE WHO

1946
00:56:06,558 --> 00:56:07,959
WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.

1947
00:56:08,093 --> 00:56:09,361
SARAH, YOU CAN THROW THAT

1948
00:56:09,494 --> 00:56:10,562
DONNYBRICK IF YOU'D LIKE TO

1949
00:56:10,695 --> 00:56:11,296
RIGHT NOW.

1950
00:56:11,429 --> 00:56:11,796
OH, GOOD ARM.

1951
00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:13,832
>> I MISSED.

1952
00:56:13,965 --> 00:56:16,701
YOU MAKE FUN OF ME.

1953
00:56:16,835 --> 00:56:18,003
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

1954
00:56:18,136 --> 00:56:18,270
US.

1955
00:56:18,403 --> 00:56:20,005
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

1956
00:56:20,138 --> 00:56:20,739
>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

1957
00:56:20,872 --> 00:56:21,473
POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE

1958
00:56:21,606 --> 00:56:23,942
NINE NETWORK.